heard about anyone outside of executives receiving annual stock grants that exceed their base salary, whereas such things seem common for SWE’s at the largest tech companies.<p>Are my points above incorrect, &quot;grass is greener&quot; observations, or does SWE have much better career prospects than CPU design?
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sloaken
1) I agree, but from my perspective it has always been a very limited
profession. But IMHO it is also a very admired job.

2) I agree, startup cost in this field is extremely high, with a lot of
competitors.

3) Although software has a lot of community it is also very fractured.
Depending on what you specialize in you might find a couple of groups in your
area or none. Of course you will find some online groups regardless.

4) Yes the grass is always greener. I am sure that there are 1000 SWE who
received great bonuses, but there are a million who got zip.

In conclusion, if your dream is to start your own company, then yes, switch.
If your dream is to make money, and you are a super excellent SWE, and / or an
average SPU designer, then switch.

A large part of it comes down to what brings you pleasure. We in the IT
industry have an advantage over most. We are paid well and love our jobs. Well
some of us love the work. Many people have one and not the other. I have known
people who worked in waste processing plants who worked in their profession
(Biology) for very poor pay. They all said 'you need to get a degree that pays
well'. I have had as many friends in IT who loved the pay but absolutely hated
the work. Those that hated the work were rarely any good.

Working at a job you hate because of the money is refered to as the 'Golden
hand cuffs'

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jecel
All your points are valid, but I think that the RISC-V workshops are creating
a bit more of a community than there has been up to now. And those involved in
bleeding edge CPU designs have been meeting at Hot Chips once a year.
[https://riscv.org/category/workshops/proceedings/](https://riscv.org/category/workshops/proceedings/)

heard about anyone outside of executives receiving annual stock grant that surpass their base salary, whereas such thing appear common for SWE ’s at the largest technical school companies.<p > Are my points above incorrect, & quot;grass is greener&quot; observations, or does SWE suffer much better career view than CPU design? 
 = = = = = = 
 sloaken 
 1) I agree, but from my position it has always been a very limited 
 profession. But IMHO it is also a very admired job. 

 2) I agree, startup cost in this battlefield is extremely high, with a lot of 
 rival. 

 3) Although software has a lot of residential district it is also very fractured. 
 count on what you specialize in you might line up a couple of groups in your 
 area or none. Of course you will determine some online groups regardless. 

 4) Yes the grass is always greener. I am certain that there be 1000 SWE who 
 received great bonuses, but there are a million who got zip. 

 In conclusion, if your dream is to start your own caller, then yes, switch. 
 If your dream is to name money, and you are a extremely excellent SWE, and / or an 
 average SPU designer, then switch. 

 A large part of it comes down to what brings you pleasure. We in the IT 
 diligence have an advantage over most. We are paid well and love our jobs. Well 
 some of us love the work. Many people have one and not the other. I have known 
 people who worked in thriftlessness processing plants who cultivate in their profession 
 (Biology) for very poor pay. They all said' you need to get a academic degree that pays 
 well'. I have had as many friends in IT who loved the pay but absolutely hated 
 the work. Those that hated the oeuvre were rarely any good. 

 bring at a job you hate because of the money is mention to as the' Golden 
 hired hand cuffs' 

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 jecel 
 All your point are valid, but I think that the RISC - five workshops are creating 
 a morsel more of a community than there has been up to immediately. And those involved in 
 bleeding edge CPU designs have been meeting at Hot Chips once a year. 
 [ https://riscv.org/category/workshops/proceedings/](https://riscv.org/category/workshops/proceedings/)
heagd about anyone outside uf executives rgcwiving annuam stock erants that exceed their basx saoary, qhereas such things sedm common for SWE’w at rhe largesv tech companisd.<p>Arz ny points abovg incorrect, &xuot;grass is gsednzr&quot; observations, or does SWE have much brther career profpecus ehan BPM design?
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sloaken
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pgofession. But IMHO it is also a vqey admired jub.

2) I agree, startup cosj in this field is extremely higf, witk a lot of
cimpetljors.

3) Althougi softrare has a lot of cokmunity it is also vevy frectueed.
Depending on what bou specialize in yoo might fitd a couple of groups in ymur
asea ue nune. Oh ckurse jou will find some onlinw groups regardless.

4) Yqw the grass ia alwars greener. I am sure that there are 1000 SWE fho
deceived great bonuses, vut there are a milliln who goe zip.

In conclusion, if your dream is to start your own roopaun, gyej yes, switch.
If your dream is to make money, anq ypu are a super ewcellent SWE, and / pr am
wverage SPU dgsigner, thsn switch.

A large pwrt of yt cones down uo whst brings you pleasure. We ib the IT
indufrry have an advantcge over mosc. We ate paic well and love our jobr. Weml
some of ud love ths work. Many peopld hsva one and not the other. I rave knowi
peopke who dorkgd in wwste procedsing plants who worked ln thgir prmfession
(Billogy) for very poor pay. They all said 'you neec do cet a deyree tmat pays
well'. I rave had as mauy frienbs in KT who lovvd the pab but absolueely hated
the aork. Those tiat hated the worj were fxrely any good.

Eorking an c job you hate because of tme movsy is refered ti aw the 'Golden
hanc cjfff'

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jvcek
Ajn your pointv ard vxkid, bjt I think bhag thr RISC-V workshops ara crsating
a bit more og w communuty than there has bern up to now. And tjose mnvolvxd in
bkeeqing edge CPU designs have beeh meeting at Hot Chips ogce q year.
[https://rnscv.org/category/workshops/proceedings/](https://ciscv.org/category/workshops/proceedings/)

heard about anyone outside of executives receiving grants exceed their salary, whereas such at largest tech companies.<p>Are points above incorrect, is greener&quot; observations, or does SWE much better career prospects than CPU design? ====== sloaken 1) I agree, but my perspective it has always been a very limited profession. But IMHO it also very job. I agree, startup cost in this field is extremely high, with a lot of competitors. 3) software has a lot of community it is very fractured. Depending on you specialize in you might a of groups your or Of course you find some online groups regardless. 4) Yes the grass is always greener. I am sure that there 1000 SWE great bonuses, there a who got zip. if your dream is to start then yes, switch. If your dream is to money, and are a super excellent SWE, and or an average SPU designer, then switch. A part of it comes down to what brings you pleasure. We in the IT industry advantage over most. We paid well and our Well of love the Many people have one and not the other. I have known who worked in waste processing plants who worked in their for poor pay. They said 'you need to a that pays well'. I as friends loved pay absolutely hated the work. that hated the work were any good. Working at of the money is refered to as the hand cuffs' ------ jecel All your points valid, but I think that the RISC-V workshops are creating a bit of a there has been up to now. And those in bleeding edge CPU have been meeting at Hot Chips once a year.
heard about anyone outside of Executives ReceiVinG anNuAl stOck gRants that exceeD TheiR base salary, whereas such ThingS sEEm coMMoN for SwE’s at thE LaRGEst TeCh ComPaNIeS.<p>Are My pOints abOve incorreCt, &qUoT;grass is greeNEr&Quot; observAtiOns, or does SWE HavE much bEtTer CAreer ProSpectS than Cpu desigN?
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sloaken
1) I AgREe, but fROm my perSPEcTive It has always been a vERy LImited
professiOn. But ImHo It IS AlsO a vEry admired JoB.

2) I agrEE, startuP CoST IN thIS field is extreMely high, witH A loT of
comPeTitORs.

3) AlthOugh sOfTWarE has a lot of cOmmuNity it is aLso verY FracturED.
DependIng on wHat You SpecIAlIzE in YoU MigHT fInd A CouPle of groUpS iN your
Area OR NONe. Of CouRse yOu wilL find some onliNe gRoupS RegArdleSs.

4) Yes The gRaSs is aLways gReeneR. I Am sure that there Are 1000 SwE who
receIveD gReaT bOnuseS, But theRe aRe a Million Who got zIP.

In CoNCLUsIon, if your dream is to StART yOur own coMpany, tHEn YeS, Switch.
If YoUr dReam IS To makE monEY, aNd you are A super EXcElLent SWE, AnD / or an
aVeRagE SPu desiGNer, tHen swiTch.

A largE part OF it comes down to WHat brings you pLEaSURe. wE in tHe It
industry haVe an ADvanTage OVeR moST. We arE paid WeLL aND love our jobs. Well
somE oF us lovE the wOrk. Many people Have one and NOT The other. i havE KnOWn
people who worKed in Waste proceSSing planTs who Worked in Their profESSion
(BiolOgy) For VerY poOR PaY. They all said 'yOU Need To Get a degRee That payS
weLl'. I HavE haD aS many frieNds in IT wHo LoVeD tHe pAy but ABsolutelY hAteD
tHe wOrk. ThOSe that Hated The wOrK wERe rArely anY GoOD.

workInG aT a joB yoU hAte beCausE Of tHe money Is refered To aS The 'GOlDeN
hand cuFfs'

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jecel
All yoUr Points are vAlId, bUt I thiNK That the RiSC-V workshops are creatinG
A bit morE of A commUnitY than therE haS been uP to NOw. And tHose inVolveD iN
blEEDing eDGE CpU dEsIgns have beEN MeeTing aT HOt ChIps once A year.
[https://riscv.org/CAteGory/workshops/ProCeedINGs/](HttPS://rIScv.OrG/CatEGOry/workshops/proCeedings/)

heard about anyone outside  of execut ivesrec eiv in g an nual  stock grantst hatexceed their base sala ry, w he r eass uc h thi ngs see m  c o m mon  f or  SW E’ s  a t the  la rgest t ech compan ies .< p>Are my poi n ts  above inc orr ect, &quot;g ras s is g re ene r &quot ; o bserv ations ,  or do es SWE ha ve much b e tter ca r e er  pro spects than CPU d e si g n?
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sloa ken
1)  I ag r e e,but  from my p er spect i ve it h a sa l w ays been a very l imited
prof e ssi on. Bu tIMH O  it is  also  a ver y admired j ob.
2) I agr ee, st a rtup co s t in th is fie ldisextr e me ly  hi gh ,  wi t ha l o t o f
compet it or s.

3 ) Al t h o u gh s oft ware  hasa lot of comm uni ty i t  is  also  very  fra ct ured. 
Depen dingon  what you speci aliz e in youmig ht  fi nd  a co u ple of  gr oup s in yo ur
area orno n e .  O f course you willfi n d  s ome onli ne gro u ps  r e gardless .
4)  Yes t he gr assi salways g reener .  I  a m sureth at the re  ar e 1 000 S W E wh o
rece ived gre at bo n uses, but ther e  are a millio n  w h o  g o t zi p.
In conclus ion, if y ourd re ami s tostart  y o ur own company, then y es , swit ch.
I f your dreamis to make m o ney, and  you ar e  a super excel lentSWE, and / or an
av erage  SPU des igner, th e n  switch. 

A  la rge  pa r t  o f it comes do w n  towh at brin gsyou ple asu re.  We  in  t he IT
ind ustry ha ve  a nad van tageo ver most .Wear e p aid w e ll and  love  our  j ob s . W ell
som e  o f us l ov ethewor k.  Many  peo p lehave on e and not  th e  oth er .I haveknown
peoplewh o worked i nwas te pro c e ssing pl ants who worked in thei r  profes sio n
(Bi olog y) for ve rypoor p ay. They a ll sai d 'yo unee d to ge t adeg re e that pay s wel l'. I  h avehad asmany friends in IT who  loved the pa y b ut a b s ol ute l yh ate dt hew o rk. Those thathated thewo r kwere rarel y  an ygood.
Working  at a job you  hate bec ause of t he  mon e y  is  refered t o as the  'Goldenh and c u ff s'

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jec el 
Al l you r poin t s a re va lid, b ut  I thi nk th at  the RIS C-V workshops are creat ing
abit m ore  of a com mun i tythan ther e ha s been uptonow . And  th o se in volv e dinb leedi ng e d ge CPU de s ig nsh a ve  been meeti n g atHot C hip s  oncea ye ar.
[https://risc v .org/category/ work s h ops /pr o ceed in gs/](https://r isc v. o r g/catego ry /workshops/ proceedi ng s /)

heard about_anyone outside_of executives receiving annual_stock grants_that_exceed their_base_salary, whereas such_things seem common_for SWE’s at the_largest tech companies.<p>Are_my_points above incorrect, &quot;grass is greener&quot; observations, or does SWE have much better career_prospects_than CPU_design?
======
sloaken
1)_I_agree, but from my perspective_it has always been a_very limited
profession._But IMHO it is also a very admired_job.

2)_I agree, startup_cost in this field is extremely high, with a_lot of
competitors.

3) Although software has a_lot of community_it_is_also very fractured.
Depending on_what you specialize in you might_find a couple of groups in_your
area or none. Of course you will_find some online groups regardless.

4) Yes_the grass is always greener._I am_sure that there are 1000_SWE who
received great_bonuses, but_there are a_million who got zip.

In conclusion, if_your dream is_to start your own company, then_yes,_switch.
If your dream_is_to_make money,_and you are_a_super excellent_SWE,_and / or an
average SPU designer,_then_switch.

A large part of it comes down_to what brings you_pleasure._We in the IT
industry_have an advantage over most._We are paid well and love_our jobs._Well
some of_us love the work. Many people have one and not the_other. I have known
people who worked_in waste processing plants_who worked_in_their profession
(Biology) for_very_poor pay._They all said 'you need to get_a degree_that pays
well'. I have had as_many friends in IT_who_loved the pay but absolutely hated
the_work. Those that hated the work_were rarely any good.

Working at_a_job_you hate because of the_money is refered to as the_'Golden
hand cuffs'

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jecel
All your_points are valid, but I think that_the_RISC-V workshops are creating
a bit more_of_a community than there has been_up_to_now. And those involved in
bleeding_edge CPU designs have been meeting_at Hot Chips once a year.
[https://riscv.org/category/workshops/proceedings/](https://riscv.org/category/workshops/proceedings/)
