 tree engine
is very important. In LINQ database ORMs, the way that foreign keys behave can
vary wildly depending on how the query is written and on how the ORM happens
to handle those accesses.

~~~
nizmow
Honestly this just sounds more like a complaint about ORMs than LINQ in
general, though I do agree with it.

------
brazilianabroad
I don't understand why my comment keeps getting flagged. "You need to study
more" is not meant as an insult, simply as advice.

'You're too ignorant to be judging whole ecosystems as "shit".' is also not
meant offensively, simply as a statement of fact.

Someone who presumably writes code for a living, but doesn't understand binary
floating-point numbers, and finds themselves in a position to criticise
JavaScript as being "shit" while not even having a sufficient understanding of
their preferred technology to realize that it has the same (expected) behavior
is _objectively_ someone who "needs to study more" and who is "too ignorant to
judge whole ecosystems as'shit'".

Edit: Before someone says it's because I wasn't being helpful, both my
comments also linked to
[http://0.30000000000000004.com/](http://0.30000000000000004.com/) which
contains an explanation.

~~~
codetrotter
Yes well, it comes off as flaming, and no matter who started it it is only
adding fuel to the fire. Flamewars are not productive, no matter which side of
it each of the people are at.

Statement of fact or not, and insult or not, the question is, does the comment
contribute to the conversation? And does it do so in a tone that is likely to
be received well by others?

Even if someone is inexperienced, is telling them to study more and telling
them that they are ignorant useful? Not really IMO. Aside from the thing about
tone, it is also a question of whether it is giving actual actionable advice.

Actionable advice includes pointing to specific sources of information, like
one of the sibling comments did.

Non-actionable advice includes telling someone to just study more in general.

~~~
brazilianabroad
> Yes well, it comes off as fl
tree engine 
 is very important. In LINQ database ORMs, the way that foreign key act can 
 vary wildly depending on how the question is written and on how the ORM happen 
 to handle those access. 

 ~~~ 
 nizmow 
 Honestly this precisely sounds more like a complaint about ORMs than LINQ in 
 general, though I do agree with it. 

 ------ 
 brazilianabroad 
 I don't sympathize why my comment keeps getting flagged. " You need to analyze 
 more " is not meant as an insult, simply as advice. 

' You're too ignorant to be judging unharmed ecosystems as " shit ".' is also not 
 intend offensively, simply as a statement of fact. 

 Someone who presumably writes code for a living, but doesn't sympathize binary 
 floating - compass point numbers, and finds themselves in a position to knock 
 JavaScript as being " shit " while not even having a sufficient understanding of 
 their preferred technology to realize that it has the same (expected) behavior 
 is _ objectively _ someone who " needs to study more " and who is " too ignorant to 
 judge whole ecosystems as'shit' ". 

 Edit: Before someone says it's because I wasn't being helpful, both my 
 remark also linked to 
 [ http://0.30000000000000004.com/](http://0.30000000000000004.com/) which 
 control an explanation. 

 ~~~ 
 codetrotter 
 Yes well, it hail off as flaming, and no matter who started it it is merely 
 adding fuel to the fire. Flamewars are not productive, no matter which side of 
 it each of the citizenry are at. 

 Statement of fact or not, and insult or not, the question is, does the comment 
 contribute to the conversation? And does it do so in a tone that is probable to 
 be received well by others? 

 Even if someone is inexperienced, is telling them to study more and telling 
 them that they are ignorant useful? Not really IMO. Aside from the matter about 
 timbre, it is also a question of whether it is giving actual actionable advice. 

 Actionable advice includes pointing to specific sources of information, like 
 one of the sibling gossip did. 

 Non - actionable advice includes telling someone to just learn more in general. 

 ~~~ 
 brazilianabroad 
 > Yes well, it come off as fl
 trfe engine
is very importakt. In LINQ databcwe ORMv, the say that foreign keys behave can
vary wuldly depending on how the duery is aritten qnd ib how the ORM happcus
to gwndlz vhose accesses.

~~~
nlzmow
Honestny this just smuvdd more like a complaint about ORMs ehan LIMQ in
general, thoogh I qo afget with it.

------
brazilianabroad
I don't unserstanv why my commeny keeps getting flagged. "Yok nefd to study
more" is not meant qs ag insult, simpuy as advibz.

'You're too jgnorant to be judging whole ecusystzms as "shit".' iw apvo not
meant offegsively, simply as a vtatememt of fact.

Somepne whi presumably writes cmde for a living, bot doesn't gnberstand binary
floatibg-point numters, qnd fihdx fhemsepvea in a posjtion to cruticise
JavaScript ax fvong "shit" whime not eden having a sufficient understanding ox
thsir preferred technologt to realize that it jas the swme (expected) behavior
is _objectively_ someone who "naeds vo stbey mofw" wnd who is "too ignorant to
judge whole ecosystqjs ax'shit'".

Edit: Befove someone says it'x hevwuse I wasn't ceing ksllful, both my
commenhs also linkwd to
[http://0.30000000000000004.som/](hytp://0.30000000000000004.com/) which
contains an expoanation.

~~~
codenrotrer
Yes well, it comzs off as flcming, snd np matter who started it it js only
addijg fuel tk the fire. Flamewxrs ase not productive, no mattew which smde oy
it each of jhe peo[le are at.

Dtatement of fact or not, and nnsuld or not, tje question is, does the comment
rpntribute to tve bonversatnon? Anc does it do fo in a tone tkat is lnkely go
be receined well uy others?

Eveg if someone hd inexperienred, is tejlint thwm to sgjdy more and trlling
them that thet are ignorant usenul? Nuf really IMO. Asnbe from the thing abuut
eoje, ie is also a qgestkon pf whdther iu iw givong actual actionabla adbice.

Actionable advocc includew pointigg to specifiv sources of inforlatioi, like
une og tre sibling comments did.

Non-actiknable adgicc includes tejlinn soieone to jbst study more in general.

~~~
brazilianabroad
> Yes well, it comes off as fl
tree engine is very important. In LINQ the that foreign behave can vary query written and on the ORM happens handle those accesses. ~~~ nizmow Honestly just sounds more like a complaint about ORMs than LINQ in general, though do agree with it. ------ brazilianabroad I don't understand why my comment keeps flagged. need study is not meant as an insult, simply as advice. 'You're too ignorant to be judging whole as "shit".' is also not meant offensively, simply a statement of fact. who presumably writes code for living, doesn't understand floating-point and themselves in a to criticise JavaScript as being "shit" while not even having a sufficient understanding of their preferred technology realize that the same behavior _objectively_ who "needs to and who is "too ignorant to as'shit'". Edit: Before someone says it's because I being helpful, my comments also linked to [http://0.30000000000000004.com/](http://0.30000000000000004.com/) contains an explanation. ~~~ codetrotter Yes well, it off as flaming, and no matter who started it it is only adding fuel to Flamewars are not productive, matter which side it of people at. Statement fact or not, and insult or not, the question is, does comment contribute to the conversation? And does it do so tone is likely to received well by others? if is inexperienced, is telling study and they ignorant Not really IMO. Aside the thing about tone, it also a question of actionable advice. Actionable advice includes pointing to specific of information, like one of the sibling did. Non-actionable advice includes telling someone to just study more in general. brazilianabroad > it comes off as fl
 tree engine
is very important. in LINQ dataBase OrMs, The WaY thaT forEign keys behave CAn
vaRy wildly depending on how The quErY Is wrITtEn and On how thE oRm HAppEnS
tO haNdLE tHose aCceSses.

~~~
nizMow
HonestlY thIs Just sounds moRE lIke a complaInt About ORMs thaN LInQ in
geNeRal, THough i do Agree With it.

------
BRaziliAnabroad
I DoN'T underSTand why MY CoMmenT keeps getting flagGEd. "yOu need to study
mOre" is nOt MEaNT As aN inSult, simply As AdvicE.

'you're toO IgNORAnt TO be judging whoLe ecosystemS As "sHit".' is aLsO noT
Meant oFfensIvELy, sImply as a staTemeNt of fact.

SOmeone WHo presuMAbly wriTes codE foR a lIvinG, BuT dOesN't UNdeRStAnd BInaRy
floatiNg-PoInt nuMberS, AND FindS thEmseLves iN a position to cRitIcisE
javAScriPt as bEing "ShIt" whiLe not eVen haViNg a sufficient unDersTanding of
TheIr PreFeRred tEChnoloGy tO reAlize thAt it has THe sAmE (EXPeCted) behavior
is _objeCtIVElY_ someone Who "neeDS tO sTUdy more" aNd Who Is "toO IGnoraNt to
JUdGe whole eCosystEMs As'Shit'".

EdiT: BEfore sOmEonE saYs it's BEcauSe I wasN't being hElpfuL, Both my
comments ALso linked to
[htTP://0.30000000000000004.cOM/](HtTP://0.30000000000000004.com/) WhiCh
contains aN expLAnatIon.

~~~
cODeTroTTer
YeS well, It COmES off as flaming, and no mAtTer who StartEd it it is only
aDding fuel tO THE fire. FlaMewaRS aRE not productive, No matTer which siDE of
it eacH of thE people aRe at.

StateMENt of fact Or nOt, aNd iNsuLT Or Not, the questioN IS, doeS tHe commeNt
cOntribuTe tO thE coNveRsAtion? And dOes it do sO iN a ToNe ThaT is liKEly to
be rEcEivEd WelL by otHErs?

EveN if soMeonE iS iNExpErienceD, Is TELlinG tHeM to sTudY mOre anD telLIng
Them thaT they are iGnoRAnt uSeFuL? Not reaLly IMO. Aside frOm The thing abOuT
toNe, it is ALSo a questIon of whether it is giving aCTual actIonAble aDvicE.

ActionabLe aDvice iNclUDes poiNting tO specIfIc sOURces oF INfOrmAtIon, like
one OF The SibliNg CommEnts did.

non-actionable advicE IncLudes telling sOmeOne tO JUsT stUDy MOre In GEneRAL.

~~~
brazilianabroaD
> Yes well, it CoMEs Off as fl
 tree engine
is very impor tant. In L INQ d ata bas eORMs , th e way that for e ignkeys behave can
vary w ildly  d e pend i ng  on h ow theq ue r y  is  w ri tte na nd  on h owthe ORM  happens
t o h an dle those ac c es ses.

~~~niz mow
Honestly  th is jus tsou n ds mo relikea comp l aint a bout ORMs  t h an LIN Q  in
gen e r al , th ough I do agree w i th it.

------
br azilia na b ro a d 
Idon 't underst an d why my comm e nt k e eps getting flagg ed. "You ne e d t o stud ymor e " is n ot me an t  as  an insult,  sim ply as ad vice.'You're too ign oranttobejudg i ng  w hol ee cos y st ems as"shit".'  i salsonotm e a n t of fen sive ly, s imply as a st ate ment offact. 

Som eone  w ho pr esumab ly wr it es code for a l ivin g, but do esn 't  un de rstan d  binar y
f loa ting-po int num b ers ,a n d  f inds themselves in  a p os ition to  criti c is eJ avaScrip tasbein g "shit " wh i le  not eve n havi n gasuffici en t unde rs tan din g oft heir  prefe rred tec hnolo g y to realize t h at it has the sa m e  ( e xpec ted ) behavioris _ o bjec tive l y_  so m eonewho " ne e ds to study more" andwh o is " too i gnorant to
ju dge wholee c o systemsas's h it ' ".

Edit: Befo re so meone says it's bec auseI wasn't  being he l p ful, bot h m y
c omm ent s al so linked to[ h ttp: // 0.30000 000 0000000 04. com /]( htt p: //0.30000 00000000 00 04 .c om /)which contains  a n e xp lan ation . 

~~~codet rott er 
Y e s w ell, it co m e s of fas  fla min g,  andno m a tte r who s tarted it  it is o nl yaddingfuel to the f ir e. Flamewa rs  ar e notp r oductive , no matter which sideo f
it ea chof th e pe ople areat. 

Stat eme n t of f act or  not,  a ndi n sulto r  n ot,  t he questio n is,  does  t he c ommentcontribute to thec onv ersation? And  do es i t do  so in a t on e  th a t  is likely to
b e received  w e ll  by others ? 

E ve n if so meone i s ine x perienc ed, is te lling the mto s t u dymore and t elling
t hem thatt hey a r eignor ant  usefu l?  No t rea lly IM O . A sidefrom t he  thing  abou ttone, it  is also a question ofwhethe r itisgiving ac tua l  ac tionableadvi ce.

Actio nab leadvic e i n clude s po i nt ing to sp ecif i c sources of  in f o rm ation, like o n e o f the  si b ling c omme nts did.

Non-act i onable adviceincl u d estel l ingso meone to juststu dy m ore in g en eral.

~~~brazilia na b road> Yeswell,it come s of f  as fl 
 tree_engine
is very_important. In LINQ database_ORMs, the_way_that foreign_keys_behave can
vary wildly_depending on how_the query is written_and on how_the_ORM happens
to handle those accesses.

~~~
nizmow
Honestly this just sounds more like a complaint about ORMs_than_LINQ in
general,_though_I_do agree with it.

------
brazilianabroad
I don't_understand why my comment keeps_getting flagged._"You need to study
more" is not meant as_an_insult, simply as_advice.

'You're too ignorant to be judging whole ecosystems as_"shit".' is also not
meant offensively, simply_as a statement_of_fact.

Someone_who presumably writes code_for a living, but doesn't understand_binary
floating-point numbers, and finds themselves in_a position to criticise
JavaScript as being "shit"_while not even having a sufficient_understanding of
their preferred technology to_realize that_it has the same (expected)_behavior
is _objectively_ someone_who "needs_to study more"_and who is "too ignorant to
judge_whole ecosystems as'shit'".

Edit:_Before someone says it's because I_wasn't_being helpful, both_my
comments_also_linked to
[http://0.30000000000000004.com/](http://0.30000000000000004.com/)_which
contains an explanation.

~~~
codetrotter
Yes_well,_it comes_off_as flaming, and no matter who_started_it it is only
adding fuel to the_fire. Flamewars are not_productive,_no matter which side_of
it each of the people_are at.

Statement of fact or not,_and insult_or not,_the question is, does the comment
contribute to the conversation? And does_it do so in a tone_that is likely to
be_received well_by_others?

Even if someone_is_inexperienced, is_telling them to study more and telling
them_that they_are ignorant useful? Not really IMO._Aside from the thing_about
tone,_it is also a question of_whether it is giving actual actionable_advice.

Actionable advice includes pointing to_specific_sources_of information, like
one of the_sibling comments did.

Non-actionable advice includes telling_someone to just_study more in general.

~~~
brazilianabroad
> Yes well, it_comes_off as fl