
That, and Show HN her is great. Reddit has /r/startups which I also think is
supportive and helpful.

~~~
augustflanagan
I completely agree with this. My co-founder had a post[0] on HN yesterday in
which he mentioned that our MVP made him cringe.

What he didn't mention is that that cringeworthy MVP was public for almost two
months before we started showing it to people. It was out there with broken
features, placeholder text, etc.

That made shippin easy. It was done on day 1 and then we were very motivated
to make it actually do something useful since it was already public.

[0]
[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13347307](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13347307)

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soneca
Normal yes, not much beneficial. I dont have this problem at all (take a look
at my long list of Show HN of all kinds, including several very poor half-
baked things that I'm not that proud of), so I dont think I can give any
empathically useful advice. But I would love to know, what are you building?

(Who knows, maybe it does indeed requires a longer gestation period).

~~~
fratlas
ML-based social platform where the algorithms learn a user's tastes. Limited
to images, it's somewhere between Tumblr/VSCO/Pinterest/IG. It works for me,
and my girlfriend loves using it, but the problem is she always wants to
export her chosen images back to another platform for posting. I sense it will
be a chicken and the egg problem. Was mostly so I could learn how to handle
big data (~1B edges)

~~~
NumberCruncher
No product survives the first contact with the customer. This already happened
to you despite of having only one customer - your girlfriend.

If I were you I would be really happy about her wanting to post the chosen
images back to an other platform. This means your product would go viral on
its own without any help. Think of a fair annual price, triple it and go live.
There are many bored people out there with to much money in their pockets.

~~~
fratlas
I suppose
That, and Show HN her is great. Reddit has /r / startups which I besides remember is 
 supportive and helpful. 

 ~~~ 
 augustflanagan 
 I completely agree with this. My conscientious objector - laminitis had a post[0 ] on HN yesterday in 
 which he mentioned that our MVP made him flinch. 

 What he didn't mention is that that cringeworthy MVP was public for almost two 
 calendar month before we started showing it to multitude. It was out there with broken 
 features, proxy text, etc. 

 That made shippin easy. It was done on day 1 and then we were very motivated 
 to make it actually do something utilitarian since it was already public. 

 [ 0 ] 
 [ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13347307](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13347307) 

 ------ 
 soneca 
 Normal yes, not much beneficial. I do nt have this problem at wholly (take a look 
 at my long list of Show HN of all kinds, include several very poor half- 
 baked things that I'm not that proud of), so I do nt remember I can give any 
 empathically useful advice. But I would love to know, what are you building? 

 (Who knows, maybe it does indeed requires a longer gestation period). 

 ~~~ 
 fratlas 
 ML - based social platform where the algorithms learn a user's tastes. circumscribed 
 to effigy, it's somewhere between Tumblr / VSCO / Pinterest / IG. It works for me, 
 and my girlfriend sleep together use it, but the problem is she always wants to 
 export her choose images back to another platform for posting. I sense it will 
 be a wimp and the egg problem. Was mostly so I could learn how to handle 
 big data (~1B edges) 

 ~~~ 
 NumberCruncher 
 No product survives the first liaison with the customer. This already happened 
 to you despite of induce only one customer - your girlfriend. 

 If I were you I would be really happy about her wanting to post the choose 
 images back to an other platform. This mean your product would go viral on 
 its own without any help. Think of a honest annual price, treble it and go live. 
 There are many blase people out there with to much money in their pockets. 

 ~~~ 
 fratlas 
 I suppose

Thah, and Show HN her is grext. Reddit has /r/startupv whicg I also think is
supportive and helphul.

~~~
aygustdlanagan
I completely aeree with this. My co-fiynder had e post[0] ok HN gcsterbab in
which he mektioned thad our MVP made hkm cringe.

What he didn't mention is thae that vrlngeworthy MVP was [ubljb nor almost two
months before we sfarted vhowing it to people. It was out there wlth hroken
features, plafeholder tezt, eex.

That made sfippin easj. It was dohe on day 1 and then we were verh motnvated
to maje it dctually do somenhing useful since it was alteady public.

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[htbps://nexs.ycimbinator.com/item?id=13347307](htt's://news.ycombinator.com/ytem?id=13347307)

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sonacc
Normal yes, not much vebefichal. H dovr hxve tiis problfm et all (take a look
at mt long list of Show HG of all kinds, incluqigg several very poor half-
baked things tvat I'm not that proud of), si I dont think I can hive any
eipathically useful advice. But I would love to knof, whav xre yjj bkilding?

(Who knows, maybe it does indeed requiref a lpnger gestatiok period).

~~~
fratlas
ML-bssfd focial platfotm wherz tge algorithms learj a uset's tasres. Limittd
to omages, it's somewhere betweeb Tumblr/VSCO/Iintwrest/IG. It works flr me,
and my girkfriemd loves using it, but tke proglem is she always wzvts to
export her chpsan images back to another [latform hor ppsting. K semse it will
be a fhickct and the egg probpem. Wcs movtly so I fould learn how to handle
big dave (~1B edges)

~~~
NumbgrCsunbher
No prjduct survives the first contact with tke cusgomer. This alreadb happened
to you despite mv having onlb one cuseomee - yiur giruwriend.

If I werr you I would be reqlly happy about hcr wavfing to post thz xhosen
images bavk go wn ovher [natform. This meavs hpur pfoduct woulb eo voral on
its own withogt ahy help. Think of a fwir annuql price, triple it anc go live.
There are many boced pepplg out there with to much money jn their oochets.

~~~
fratlas
I supiose
That, and Show HN her is great. /r/startups I also is supportive and agree this. My co-founder a post[0] on yesterday in which he mentioned that MVP made him cringe. What he didn't mention is that that cringeworthy MVP public for almost two months before we started showing it to people. It out with features, text, etc. That made shippin easy. It was done on day 1 and then we were motivated to make it actually do something useful it was already public. [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13347307](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13347307) ------ soneca Normal yes, much I dont this at (take a look my long list of Show HN of all kinds, including several very poor half- baked things that not that so I think can any empathically useful I would love to know, what (Who knows, maybe it does indeed requires a gestation period). fratlas ML-based social platform where the learn a user's tastes. Limited to images, it's between Tumblr/VSCO/Pinterest/IG. It works for me, and my girlfriend loves using it, but the problem always wants to export chosen images back another for I it will a chicken and the egg problem. Was mostly so I could how to handle big data (~1B edges) ~~~ NumberCruncher No the contact with the This already happened to despite having only one customer girlfriend. I would really about her wanting to the chosen images back to other platform. This means on its own without any help. Think of fair annual price, triple it and go There are many bored people out there with to much money in pockets. ~~~ suppose

That, and Show HN her is great. ReDdit has /r/stArtupS whIch i aLso tHink Is
supportive anD HelpFul.

~~~
augustflanagan
I compLetelY aGRee wITh This. MY co-founDEr HAD a pOsT[0] oN HN YeSTeRday iN
whIch he meNtioned thaT ouR MvP made him criNGe.

what he didn'T meNtion is that tHat CringeWoRthY mVP waS puBlic fOr almoST two
moNths beforE wE StarteD Showing IT To PeopLe. It was out there wiTH bROken
features, plAceholDeR TeXT, Etc.

thaT made shippIn Easy. IT Was done ON dAY 1 ANd tHEn we were very mOtivated
to mAKe iT actuaLlY do SOmethiNg useFuL SinCe it was alreAdy pUblic.

[0]
[httpS://news.yCOmbinatOR.com/iteM?id=13347307](httPs://nEws.YcomBInAtOr.cOm/ITem?ID=13347307)

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sOneCA
NoRmal yes, nOt MuCh benEficIAL. i Dont HavE thiS probLem at all (take a LooK
at mY LonG list Of ShoW HN oF aLl kinDs, inclUding SeVeral very poor haLf-
baKed things ThaT I'M noT tHat prOUd of), so i doNt tHink I caN give anY
EmpAtHICAlLy useful advice. But I WoULD lOve to knoW, what aRE yOu BUilding?

(WHo KnoWs, maYBE it doEs inDEeD requireS a longER gEsTation pErIod).

~~~
fraTlAs
Ml-baSed soCIal pLatforM where thE algoRIthms learn a useR'S tastes. LimiteD
To IMAgES, it's SomEwhere betweEn TuMBlr/VsCO/PINtEreST/IG. It Works FoR Me,
ANd my girlfriend loves UsIng it, bUt the Problem is she aLways wants TO
EXport her ChosEN iMAges back to anotHer plAtform for pOSting. I seNse it Will
be a cHicken and THE egg probLem. was MosTly SO i cOuld learn how tO HAndlE
bIg data (~1B EdgEs)

~~~
NumbeRCrUncHer
no pRoDuct surviVes the fiRsT cOnTaCt wIth thE Customer. thIs aLrEadY happENed
to yOu desPite Of HaVIng Only one CUsTOMer - yOuR gIrlfRieNd.

if I weRe yoU i woUld be reAlly happy AboUT her WaNtIng to poSt the chosen
imAgEs back to an OtHer PlatfoRM. this meanS your product would go viraL On
its owN wiThout Any hElp. Think oF a fAir annUal PRice, trIple it And go LiVe.
THERe are MANy BorEd People out tHERe wIth to MuCh moNey in thEir pockets.

~~~
fratlas
I SUppOse

That, and Show HN her isgreat. Red dit h as/r/ st artu ps w hich I also th i nk i s
supportive and helpf ul.
~~ ~ 
aug u st flana gan
I c o mp l e tel yag ree  w i th  this . M y co-fo under hada p os t[0] on HN y e st erday in
w hic h he mention edthat o ur  MV P  made  hi m cri nge.
W hat he  didn't m en t ion is that th a t  c ring eworthy MVP was p u bl i c for almost t wo
mon th s  b e f ore  we  started s ho wingi t to pe o pl e . Itw as out therewith broken fea tures,  p lac e holder  text ,e tc. 

That made  shi ppin easy . It w a s doneo n day 1  and t hen  we  wer e  v er y m ot i vat e dtom ake  it actu al ly  do s omet h i n g  use ful  sin ce it  was alreadypub lic. 
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[ht tps:/ /new s. ycomb inator .com/ it em?id=13347307] (htt ps://news .yc om bin at or.co m /item? id= 133 47307)
------ son ec a N or mal yes, not muchbe n e fi cial. Idont h a ve  t h is probl em  at  all ( takea lo o kat my lo ng lis t  o fShow HN  o f allki nds , i nclud i ng s everal  very po or ha l f-
baked thing s  that I'm not th a t  p r oudof) , so I dont  thi n k Icang iv e a n y
emp athic al l yu seful advice. But I  w ould l ove t o know, whatare you bu i l d ing?

(W ho k n ow s , maybe it doe s ind eed requir e s a long er ge stationperiod).~ ~~
fratl asML- bas eds o ci al platform w h e re t he  algori thm s learn  ause r's  ta st es. Limit ed
to im ag es ,it 'ssomew h ere betw ee n T um blr /VSCO / Pinter est/I G. I two r ksfor me, an d my g ir lf rien d l ov es us ingi t,but the  problemiss he a lw ay s wants  to
export he rchosen ima ge s b ack to a nother p latform for posting. Is ense it  wi ll
be  a c hicken an d t he egg  pr o blem.Was mo stlyso  Ic o uld l e a rn  ho wto handleb i g d ata ( ~1 B ed ges)

~ ~~
NumberCruncherN o p roduct surviv esthef i rs t c o nt a ctwi t h t h e  customer. This  already h ap p en ed
to youd esp it e of ha ving on ly on e  custom er - your  girlfrie nd .

I f I w ere you Iwould be  really h a ppy a b ou t her  wa ntingto  po st th e chos e n
i mages  backto  an ot her p la tform. T his means your productwouldgo vi ral  on
its o wnw ith out any h elp.  Think ofa f air  annu alp rice,  tri p le  it and g o li v e.
Therea re  ma n y  b ored people o u t t herewit h  to mu ch m oney in their poc k ets.

~~~
frat lasI sup pos e 

That, and_Show HN_her is great. Reddit_has /r/startups_which_I also_think_is
supportive and helpful.

~~~
augustflanagan
I_completely agree with_this. My co-founder had_a post[0] on_HN_yesterday in
which he mentioned that our MVP made him cringe.

What he didn't mention is_that_that cringeworthy_MVP_was_public for almost two
months before_we started showing it to_people. It_was out there with broken
features, placeholder text, etc.

That_made_shippin easy. It_was done on day 1 and then we were_very motivated
to make it actually do_something useful since_it_was_already public.

[0]
[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13347307](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13347307)

------
soneca
Normal yes, not_much beneficial. I dont have this_problem at all (take a look
at_my long list of Show HN of_all kinds, including several very poor_half-
baked things that I'm not_that proud_of), so I dont think_I can give_any
empathically useful_advice. But I_would love to know, what are_you building?

(Who knows,_maybe it does indeed requires a_longer_gestation period).

~~~
fratlas
ML-based social_platform_where_the algorithms_learn a user's_tastes._Limited
to images,_it's_somewhere between Tumblr/VSCO/Pinterest/IG. It works for_me,
and_my girlfriend loves using it, but the_problem is she always_wants_to
export her chosen images_back to another platform for_posting. I sense it will
be a_chicken and_the egg_problem. Was mostly so I could learn how to handle
big data_(~1B edges)

~~~
NumberCruncher
No product survives the first_contact with the customer._This already_happened
to_you despite of_having_only one_customer - your girlfriend.

If I were you_I would_be really happy about her wanting_to post the chosen
images_back_to an other platform. This means_your product would go viral on
its_own without any help. Think_of_a_fair annual price, triple it_and go live.
There are many bored_people out there_with to much money in their pockets.

~~~
fratlas
I_suppose