 few times.)

Was Richard the guy who went as a flasher at a Halloween party? Because every
time I read about him testifying in court, I'm imagining him doing so in that
costume, which was... graphic.

~~~
abawany
I never knew UTD had such goings-on, probably because I was just an evening
student who attended business classes there :) (FYI: I have been a developer
most of my life - just wanted to broaden my horizons re. business.)

I think I also know a Richard Bates from UTD, as a co-worker (but I am not
real sure that it is the same person so I won't be too specific as to company
and etc.). I found this Richard Bates to be a hard worker who was detail
oriented and focused on doing the right thing.

~~~
pavel_lishin
Yeah, there was a fair amount of stuff happening at UTD when I was there - it
was easy to miss if you didn't live on campus, or if you only attended in the
evenings. Sorry you missed out on the fun!

Although, to be fair, some of that 'fun" was actually pretty regrettable in
hindsight. But them's part of learnin'.

I didn't know Richard well, but nothing I learned about him made him seem like
he would be a bad employee, except I guess the possible personality clash,
which can be true of anyone.

------
robbyking
This is a bit of an aside, but this line really stung:

>> _Ross was a techie, but he didn 't act like one. He seemed eloquent,
optimistic, down-to-earth._

One of the main reasons I got into software development in the 90's was the
fact that software engineers were (largely) eloquent, optimistic, and down-to-
earth.

It's sad that a vocal minority has sullied the image of an entire industry.

~~~
runjake
Virtually every niche of society considers others of their kind as eloquent,
optimistic, and down-to-earth. This is a common perception in a group of
people with shared passions. From artists, techies, to politicians and even
Nazi Germany.

~~~
karl_gluck
Wow
few times .) 

 Was Richard the guy who went as a flasher at a Halloween party? Because every 
 time I understand about him testify in court, I'm imagining him doing then in that 
 costume, which was... graphic. 

 ~~~ 
 abawany 
 I never knew UTD had such departure - on, probably because I was just an evening 
 scholar who attend business course there :) (FYI: I have been a developer 
 most of my life - just want to broaden my horizons re. business .) 

 I think I also acknowledge a Richard Bates from UTD, as a co - worker (but I am not 
 real certain that it is the same person so I won't be too specific as to company 
 and etc .). I found this Richard Bates to be a difficult worker who was detail 
 oriented and focused on doing the correct thing. 

 ~~~ 
 pavel_lishin 
 Yeah, there was a fair amount of stuff happen at UTD when I was there - it 
 was comfortable to miss if you didn't live on campus, or if you only attended in the 
 evenings. Sorry you missed out on the fun! 

 Although, to be clean, some of that' playfulness " was actually reasonably regrettable in 
 hindsight. But them's part of learnin'. 

 I didn't know Richard well, but nothing I learned about him construct him seem like 
 he would be a bad employee, except I guess the possible personality clash, 
 which can be true of anyone. 

 ------ 
 robbyking 
 This is a bit of an aside, but this lineage really stung: 

 > > _ Ross was a techie, but he didn' t act like one. He seemed eloquent, 
 optimistic, down - to - earth. _ 

 One of the main reason I got into software development in the 90's was the 
 fact that software engineers were (largely) eloquent, optimistic, and down - to- 
 ground. 

 It's sad that a outspoken minority has defame the image of an entire industry. 

 ~~~ 
 runjake 
 Virtually every recess of society considers others of their kind as eloquent, 
 affirmative, and down - to - earth. This is a coarse perception in a group of 
 people with share passions. From artist, techies, to politicians and even 
 Nazi Germany. 

 ~~~ 
 karl_gluck 
 Wow
 fea times.)

Was Richard the gmy who went as a flashec at a Galloweev party? Because every
time I cead abouu him testifying in court, I'm imaginibg hmm doing so in tizt
costume, whidm was... jraphic.

~~~
abawany
I never knef UTD had such guiugs-on, probably because I was just an eveninb
shudent who attgnded fusihvsw classes there :) (FYI: I have bsen a dtveloper
most of my life - just wanted to broafen ly horizons re. buslness.)

I thinj I woso know a Rkchard Batts from UTD, zs a co-worker (but I am not
real rure chat it is jkw swke person si I wjn't be too sivcific ds to cpmpany
and etc.). L fouid tyis Richard Bates to ue a hard worker who was detahl
kriented and focuwee on goinc thd rieht tiinf.

~~~
pavel_pisiin
Yeah, thede was a faur amount of stuff na[irning at UTD when Y ras there - it
was easy to miss if you dign't live on campus, or if yiu only attended in tje
eveningf. Sorry you missed out on the fun!

Although, to be fdir, skoe if gyah 'fun" was actually pretty regrettable in
hindsyfhu. Blt them's part of jearnin'.

I dicn'h lgow Richard wgll, but nofhing I learned ablut him made him seem likr
he would be a bad employee, except I guvss rhe possible persouality clash,
chich van br true of anyone.

------
robbykiug
This is a bit ov an asids, but this line rdalky stung:

>> _Ross was a techie, btt he didi 't aet like une. Ne seeied eloquejt,
optlkistic, down-to-earth._

Lne oy the main reaslns I got into software development in the 90's eav tve
fact tkat sontware engineerf were (largely) eloqueut, optkmistic, ans down-tm-
earth.

It's swd that a vocdp minority hes sullieq thw imqge of xv entire indusyry.

~~~
runjakv
Vnrtually wvery niche of soclety zknsiders others of their kind as rloduegt,
lpvimisehc, and down-tm-eargh. Gnis ir a common ierzeptoon in a group of
peo[le sith shared passioms. From arjists, tecries, to politocians and even
Nazl Gerkanb.

~~~
karl_gkuch
Wow
few times.) Was Richard the guy who a at a party? Because every testifying court, I'm imagining doing so in costume, which was... graphic. ~~~ abawany never knew UTD had such goings-on, probably because I was just an evening who attended business classes there :) (FYI: I have been a developer most my - wanted broaden my horizons re. business.) I think I also know a Richard Bates from UTD, as co-worker (but I am not real sure that is the same person I won't be too specific to and etc.). found Richard to be a worker who was detail oriented and focused on doing the right thing. ~~~ pavel_lishin Yeah, there was fair amount happening at when was - it was miss if you didn't live on you only attended in the evenings. Sorry you out on fun! Although, to be fair, some that 'fun" was actually pretty regrettable in hindsight. them's part of learnin'. I didn't know Richard well, but nothing I learned about him seem like he would a bad employee, I the personality which can true of anyone. ------ robbyking This is a bit of an but this line really stung: >> _Ross was a techie, didn act like one. seemed eloquent, optimistic, down-to-earth._ of main reasons I got development the fact software were (largely) eloquent, optimistic, down-to- earth. It's sad that vocal minority has sullied industry. ~~~ runjake Virtually every niche of society others of their kind as eloquent, optimistic, down-to-earth. This is a common perception in a group of people with passions. From to politicians and even Nazi Germany. ~~~ karl_gluck
 few times.)

Was Richard the guy wHo went as a fLasheR at A HaLlOweeN parTy? Because every
TIme I Read about him testifying In couRt, i'M imaGInIng hiM doing sO In THAt
cOsTuMe, wHiCH wAs... graPhiC.

~~~
abawanY
I never kneW UTd hAd such goings-ON, pRobably becAusE I was just an eVenIng
stuDeNt wHO atteNdeD busiNess clASses thEre :) (FYI: I haVe BEen a deVEloper
mOST oF my lIfe - just wanted to brOAdEN my horizons re. bUsinesS.)

I THiNK i alSo kNow a RicharD BAtes fROm UTD, as A Co-WORKer (BUt I am not
real sUre that it is THe sAme perSoN so i Won't be Too spEcIFic As to company
And eTc.). I found tHis RicHArd BateS To be a haRd workEr wHo wAs deTAiL
oRieNtED anD FoCusED on Doing the RiGhT thinG.

~~~
pavEL_LIShin
yeaH, theRe was A fair amount of StuFf haPPenIng at uTD whEn I wAs There - It
was eAsy to MiSs if you didn't livE on cAmpus, or if You OnLy aTtEnded IN the
evEniNgs. sorry yoU missed OUt oN tHE FUn!

although, to be fair, soMe OF ThAt 'fun" was ActualLY pReTTy regretTaBle In
hiNDSight. but tHEm'S part of lEarnin'.

i DiDn'T know RiChArd welL, bUt nOthIng I lEArneD about Him made hIm seeM Like
he would be a BAd employee, excEPt i GUeSS the PosSible personAlitY ClasH,
whiCH cAn bE True oF anyoNe.

------
RObBYking
This is a bit of an AsIde, but This lIne really stunG:

>> _Ross was a tECHIe, but he dIdn 't ACt LIke one. He seemed EloquEnt,
optimisTIc, down-to-Earth._

one of the Main reasoNS i got into SofTwaRe dEveLOPmEnt in the 90's was tHE
Fact ThAt softwAre EngineeRs wEre (LarGelY) eLoquent, opTimistic, AnD dOwN-tO-
eaRth.

It'S Sad that a VoCal MiNorIty haS SullieD the iMage Of An ENtiRe indusTRy.

~~~
RUNjakE
VIrTualLy eVeRy nicHe of SOciEty consIders otheRs oF TheiR kInD as eloqUent,
optimistiC, aNd down-to-eaRtH. ThIs is a cOMMon percePtion in a group of
people wiTH shared PasSions. from Artists, teChiEs, to poLitICians aNd even
nazi GErManY.

~~~
KArl_glUCK
WOw
 few times.)

Was Richardthe guy wh o wen t a s a  f lash er a t a Halloweenp arty ? Because every
time I  read  a b outh im  test ifyingi nc o urt ,I' m i ma g in ing h imdoing s o in thatcos tu me, which wa s .. . graphic. 

~ ~~
abawany
I  ne ver kn ew  UT D  hadsuc h goi ngs-on ,  proba bly becau se I wasj ust ane v en ingstudent who atten d ed business class es the re :) ( FYI : I  have been  a  deve l oper
mo s to f myl ife - just wa nted to bro a den  my ho ri zon s  re. b usine ss . )
I think I a lsoknow a Ri chardB ates fr o m UTD,as a c o-w ork er ( b ut  I  am  n o t
r e al  su r e t hat it i sth e sam e pe r s o n  soI w on't  be t oo specific a s t o co m pan y
and  etc. ). I  f oundthis R ichar dBates to be a h ardworker wh o w as  de ta il
or i entedand  fo cused o n doing the  r i g h tthing.

~~~
pavel_ li s h in 
Yeah, t here w a saf air amou nt  of  stu f f  happ enin g  a t UTD wh en I w a sth ere - i twas ea sy  to  mi ss if youdidn't  live on  camp u s, or if you o n ly attended i n  t h e 
e v enin gs.  Sorry youmiss e d ou t on th e f u n!

A lthou gh ,  t o  be fair, some of t ha t 'fun " was  actually pre tty regret t a b le in
hi ndsi g ht .  But them's pa rt of  learnin'. 
I didn' t kno w Richar d well, b u t  nothing  Ilea rne d a b o ut  him made him s eemli ke
he w oul d be abad  em plo yee ,except Iguess th epo ss ib leperso n ality cl as h,wh ich  canb e true  of a nyon e. 
- --- --
robb y ki n g 
Thi sis  a b itof  an a side ,  bu t thisline real lys tung :
> > _Ross  was a techie ,but he did n'tact li k e  one. He  seemed eloquent,
optim i stic, d own -to-e arth ._

One o f t he mai n r e asonsI gotintoso ftw a r e dev e l op men tin the 90' s was  thefa ct t hat sof tware engineers we r e ( largely) eloq uen t, o p t im ist i c, and  d o wn- t o -
earth.

It'ssad that a  v o ca l minority has  s ulliedthe ima ge of an enti re indust ry.

~~~ru njak e Vir tually eve ry niche  of socie t y con s id ers o the rs ofth eir  kind  as el o que nt,
o ptimis ti c, and  down -t o-earth.  This is a common perce ptionin agro up of
peo ple wit h sharedpass ions. From  ar tis ts, t ech i es, t o po l it ici a ns an d ev e n
Nazi Ge r ma ny. ~~ ~
karl_gluc k W ow
 few_times.)

Was Richard_the guy who went_as a_flasher_at a_Halloween_party? Because every
time_I read about_him testifying in court,_I'm imagining him_doing_so in that
costume, which was... graphic.

~~~
abawany
I never knew UTD had such goings-on, probably because_I_was just_an_evening
student_who attended business classes there_:) (FYI: I have been_a developer
most_of my life - just wanted to broaden_my_horizons re. business.)

I_think I also know a Richard Bates from UTD,_as a co-worker (but I am_not
real sure that_it_is_the same person so_I won't be too specific as_to company
and etc.). I found this_Richard Bates to be a hard worker_who was detail
oriented and focused on_doing the right thing.

~~~
pavel_lishin
Yeah, there_was a_fair amount of stuff happening_at UTD when_I was_there - it
was_easy to miss if you didn't_live on campus,_or if you only attended in_the
evenings._Sorry you missed_out_on_the fun!

Although,_to be fair,_some_of that_'fun"_was actually pretty regrettable in
hindsight. But_them's_part of learnin'.

I didn't know Richard well,_but nothing I learned_about_him made him seem_like
he would be a bad_employee, except I guess the possible_personality clash,
which_can be_true of anyone.

------
robbyking
This is a bit of an aside, but this_line really stung:

>> _Ross was a_techie, but he didn_'t act_like_one. He seemed_eloquent,
optimistic,_down-to-earth._

One of_the main reasons I got into software_development in_the 90's was the
fact that software_engineers were (largely) eloquent,_optimistic,_and down-to-
earth.

It's sad that a vocal_minority has sullied the image of_an entire industry.

~~~
runjake
Virtually every niche_of_society_considers others of their kind_as eloquent,
optimistic, and down-to-earth. This is_a common perception_in a group of
people with shared passions._From_artists, techies, to politicians and even
Nazi_Germany.

~~~
karl_gluck
Wow