 then we'll have a 4-way race.

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pbourke
I saw the Sortable ad in my Facebook feed. Good for a few laughs. Presidents
come and go, but the opportunities in the US have been consistently better
than Canada for decades now in tech.

Canadians come to the US for a better standard of living, comparatively more
affordable housing (yes, even in the Bay Area!), a diverse and booming job
market with interesting opportunities and a less conservative startup culture.
None of that seems to be changing anytime soon.

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JMCQ87
Not even Trump would make we want to work in adtech.

~~~
cabernal
This is true, a lot of startups (in the Toronto area at least) work on
ad/marketing tech, but if you look closely you can find places that are
working on interesting projects (WealthSimple, Quandl, TopHat)

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gist
Absurd. Even if for some odd reason you buy into the unproven idea that things
would be bad for what you do with Trump as President, moving to a new country
when someone might only be in office for 4 years is ridiculous and shows that
you act on emotions, not rational and logic.

~~~
Grishnakh
I'm sure someone said that back in 2000 just before Bush got elected. Bush's
reign has had a huge effect on the American economy and culture, lasting far
longer than just 4 years.

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neom
Wonder what visa they want us on. (I'm Canadian, but still)

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jnordwick
I'd love to create a statup in a bureaucratic, third-world country. Canada
sounds perfect!

(preparing for modbomb oblivion)

 
EU dropped plans for safer pesticides because of TTIP and pressure from US - de_Selby
http://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2015/05/eu-dropped-plans-for-safer-pesticides-because-of-ttip-and-pressure-from-us/
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tzs
See also extensive discussion from 2 days ago:
[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9587772](https://news.ycombinator.com
then we'll have a 4 - way race. 

 ------ 
 pbourke 
 I saw the Sortable ad in my Facebook feed. beneficial for a few joke. Presidents 
 come and go, but the opportunity in the US have been consistently better 
 than Canada for decades nowadays in tech. 

 Canadians come to the US for a good standard of living, relatively more 
 affordable housing (yes, even in the Bay Area !), a divers and booming job 
 market with interesting opportunities and a less conservative startup culture. 
 None of that seems to be deepen anytime soon. 

 ------ 
 JMCQ87 
 Not even Trump would make we want to work in adtech. 

 ~~~ 
 cabernal 
 This is on-key, a lot of startups (in the Toronto area at least) work on 
 ad / selling tech, but if you expect closely you can find places that are 
 work on interesting projects (WealthSimple, Quandl, TopHat) 

 ------ 
 gist 
 Absurd. Even if for some odd reason you buy into the unproved mind that things 
 would be bad for what you do with Trump as President, moving to a new country 
 when someone might only be in office for 4 years is ridiculous and read that 
 you act on emotions, not intellectual and logic. 

 ~~~ 
 Grishnakh 
 I'm certain someone say that back in 2000 just before Bush got elected. Bush's 
 reign has have a huge effect on the American economy and culture, lasting far 
 longer than just 4 class. 

 ------ 
 neom 
 Wonder what visa they want us on. (I'm Canadian, but still) 

 ------ 
 jnordwick 
 I'd love to create a statup in a bureaucratic, third - world country. Canada 
 sound perfect! 

 (preparing for modbomb oblivion) 

 
 EU dropped plan for safer pesticide because of TTIP and atmospheric pressure from US - de_Selby 
 http://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2015/05/eu-dropped-plans-for-safer-pesticides-because-of-ttip-and-pressure-from-us/ 
 = = = = = = 
 tzs 
 See also extensive discussion from 2 days ago: 
 [ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9587772](https://news.ycombinator.com
 thfn we'll have a 4-way race.

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pnourke
I saw the Sortablx ad in my Facecook feed. Good for a few laujhs. Presieents
come and go, but tfe opportlnities ib tht US have been coiaistently betfcr
thau Ranada for decaces now in tech.

Canadians cumz to the US for a better standard of living, clmparatively mjre
agsordzble housing (yes, even in the Bay Adea!), a dpverse and boominb job
market with interestijg ooportunities and a less consetbatyce startup cjlture.
None of that seejs to be changing anytime soon.

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JOCQ87
Noc even Trumk soknd make we xant tj work in adbvch.

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cabesnal
Thix is true, a lob of vtaetups (in the Toronto erea at least) work og
ad/markethny tech, but if you looj xloseny ymu cxb fknd pkades thwt ere
working kn interestung projects (WealthXiiike, Quandl, TolHat)

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gift
Wbsurd. Even if for some odd reason you tuy into the unproven idea that things
would be had for wrat you do with Trump as President, moving to a nef couitfy
wkck soowoje might only be in office for 4 years is ridishlpux and shows thct
you act on emoyilnx, not rational and logid.

~~~
Grishnakh
I'm sure domeone said that bach in 2000 just before Bush got elecred. Bush's
reiyn yas had a huge effzct on the Aoerivan evonomy and culture, lastnng fad
longer thaj just 4 ysxrs.

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neom
Wonder whxt nisa they want us on. (I'm Canadiwn, but stmll)

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jnprdwick
K'd lpve to create a dtatui in a bureaucratic, thirb-worlg country. Fanada
sounds perfect!

(preparing for modbomb oblovhon)

 
EU drop'ed plsns for safer pesticides beeause of TTIP and presslre from NS - de_Selby
hetp://arstechnicd.fo.uk/tech-poliry/2015/05/eu-droppqd-plqns-fir-safer-odsticides-becauxe-of-ttip-aub-pressure-drom-us/
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tzs
See also cxtenrjve discussion yxon 2 days ago:
[httpx://neds.ysolbmnatow.wom/item?id=9587772](htt[s://neds.yzpmbinxtor.com
then we'll have a 4-way race. ------ saw Sortable ad my Facebook feed. Presidents and go, but opportunities in the have been consistently better than Canada decades now in tech. Canadians come to the US for a better standard living, comparatively more affordable housing (yes, even in the Bay Area!), a diverse booming market interesting and a less conservative startup culture. None of that seems to be changing anytime soon. ------ Not even Trump would make we want to in adtech. ~~~ cabernal is true, a lot of (in Toronto area least) on tech, but if look closely you can find places that are working on interesting projects (WealthSimple, Quandl, TopHat) ------ gist Even if odd reason buy the idea that things bad for what you do with moving to a new country when someone might be in for 4 years is ridiculous and that you act on emotions, not rational and ~~~ Grishnakh I'm sure someone said that back in 2000 just before Bush got elected. has had a huge on the American and lasting longer just 4 ------ neom Wonder what visa they want us on. (I'm Canadian, still) ------ jnordwick I'd love to create a statup in third-world Canada sounds perfect! for modbomb oblivion) EU plans safer pesticides because of pressure US ====== See extensive discussion from 2 ago: [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9587772](https://news.ycombinator.com
 then we'll have a 4-way race.

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pbourKe
I saw the SOrtabLe aD in My faceBook Feed. Good for a feW LaugHs. Presidents
come and go, bUt the OpPOrtuNItIes in The US haVE bEEN coNsIsTenTlY BeTter
tHan canada fOr decades nOw iN tEch.

Canadians COmE to the US foR a bEtter standarD of Living, CoMpaRAtiveLy mOre
afFordabLE housiNg (yes, even In THe Bay AREa!), a diveRSE aNd boOming job
market witH InTEresting opportUnitieS aND a LESs cOnsErvative stArTup cuLTure.
NonE Of THAT seEMs to be changinG anytime sooN.

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jMCq87
Not evEn truMP would Make wE wANt tO work in adteCh.

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caBernal
ThiS is truE, A lot of sTArtups (iN the ToRonTo aRea aT LeAsT) woRk ON
ad/MArKetINg tEch, but if YoU lOok clOselY YOU Can fInd PlacEs thaT are
working on IntEresTIng ProjeCts (WeAlthsiMple, QUandl, TOpHat)

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GiSt
Absurd. Even if fOr soMe odd reasOn yOu Buy InTo the UNproveN idEa tHat thinGs
would BE baD fOR WHaT you do with Trump as PReSIDeNt, moving To a new COuNtRY
when somEoNe mIght ONLy be iN offICe For 4 years Is ridiCUlOuS and shoWs That
yoU aCt oN emOtionS, Not rAtionaL and logiC.

~~~
GrisHNakh
I'm sure someONe said that bacK In 2000 JUSt BEforE BuSh got electeD. BusH'S
reiGn haS HaD a hUGe effEct on ThE amERican economy and cultUrE, lastiNg far
Longer than jusT 4 years.

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neom
wONDer what vIsa tHEy WAnt us on. (I'm CanadIan, buT still)

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jnorDWick
I'd loVe to cReate a stAtup in a buREAucratic, ThiRd-wOrlD coUNTrY. Canada
sounds PERfecT!

(pReparinG foR modbomB obLivIon)

 
eU dRoPped plans For safer PeStIcIdEs bEcausE Of TTIP anD pResSuRe fRom US - DE_Selby
Http://aRsteChNiCA.co.Uk/tech-pOLiCY/2015/05/Eu-drOpPeD-plaNs-fOr-Safer-PestICidEs-becauSe-of-ttip-aNd-pREssuRe-FrOm-us/
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tzs
see also extensIvE discussioN fRom 2 Days agO:
[HTtps://news.Ycombinator.com/item?id=9587772](httPS://news.ycOmbInatoR.com
 then we'll have a 4-way r ace.

---- --
pb our keIsawtheSortable ad in my F acebook feed. Good for  a fe wl augh s .Presi dents
c o me a ndgo ,but  t h eoppor tun ities i n the US h ave  b een consiste n tl y better
t han  Canada fordec ades n ow  in tech. 

C anadi ans co m e to t he US for  a better standar d of  liv ing, comparativel y  m o re
affordablehousin g( ye s ,  ev enin the Bay  A rea!) ,  a dive r se a n d b o oming job
mar ket with in t ere stingop por t unitie s and  a les s conservat ivestartup c ulture . 
None o f  that s eems t o b e c hang i ng  a nyt im e  so o n. 

- - --- -
JMCQ87 
N ot  even  Tru m p w ould  ma ke w e wan t to work inadt ech. 
~~ ~
cab ernal 
Thi sis tr ue, alot o fstartups (in th e To ronto are a a tlea st ) wor k  on
ad /ma rke ting te ch, but ifyo u l oo k closely you canfi n d  p laces th at are wo rk i ng on in te res ting p rojec ts ( W ea lthSimpl e, Qua n dl ,TopHat) 
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g ist 
Ab surd. Even  if fo r some o dd re a son you buy in t o the unprove n  i d e at hatthi ngs
would b e ba d  for  wha t  y oud o wit h Tru mp as President, moving t oa newcount ry
when someo ne might o n l y  be in o ffic e  f o r 4 years is r idicu lous and s h ows that 
youact on e motions,n o t ration aland  lo gic . 
~ ~~
GrishnakhI ' m su re  someon e s aid tha t b ack  in  20 00  just bef ore Bush  g ot  e le cte d. Bu s h's
reig nhas  h ada hug e  effec t ontheAm er i can  econom y  a n d  cul tu re , la sti ng  farlong e r t han jus t 4 years .
- ---- -ne om
Wond er what visath ey want us  o n.(I'm C a n adian, b ut still)

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jnord w ick
I'd  lo ve to  cre ate a sta tup  in abur e aucrat ic, th ird-w or ldc o untry . Ca nad asounds per f e ct! 

(pr ep arin g for m odbomb oblivion)

EU  dropped plan s f or s a f er  pe s ti c ide sb eca u s e of TTIP and p ressure fr om US  - de_Selb y 
ht tp ://arst echnica .co.u k /tech-p olicy/201 5/05/eu-d ro pped - p lan s-for-safe r-pestic ides-beca u se-of - tt ip-an d-p ressur e- fro m-us/ 
===== = 
tz s
See  alsoex tensiv e dis cu ssion fr om 2 days ago:
[https:/ /news. ycomb ina tor.com/i tem ? id= 9587772]( http s://news.y com bin ator. com 
 then_we'll have_a 4-way race.

------
pbourke
I saw_the Sortable_ad_in my_Facebook_feed. Good for_a few laughs._Presidents
come and go, but_the opportunities in_the_US have been consistently better
than Canada for decades now in tech.

Canadians come to the_US_for a_better_standard_of living, comparatively more
affordable housing_(yes, even in the Bay_Area!), a_diverse and booming job
market with interesting opportunities and_a_less conservative startup_culture.
None of that seems to be changing anytime soon.

------
JMCQ87
Not_even Trump would make we want_to work in_adtech.

~~~
cabernal
This_is_true, a lot of_startups (in the Toronto area at_least) work on
ad/marketing tech, but if_you look closely you can find places_that are
working on interesting projects (WealthSimple,_Quandl, TopHat)

------
gist
Absurd. Even if for_some odd_reason you buy into the_unproven idea that_things
would be_bad for what_you do with Trump as President,_moving to a_new country
when someone might only be_in_office for 4_years_is_ridiculous and_shows that
you act_on_emotions, not_rational_and logic.

~~~
Grishnakh
I'm sure someone said that_back_in 2000 just before Bush got elected._Bush's
reign has had a_huge_effect on the American_economy and culture, lasting far
longer_than just 4 years.

------
neom
Wonder what visa_they want_us on._(I'm Canadian, but still)

------
jnordwick
I'd love to create a statup in a_bureaucratic, third-world country. Canada
sounds perfect!

(preparing for_modbomb oblivion)

 
EU dropped_plans for_safer_pesticides because of_TTIP_and pressure_from US - de_Selby
http://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2015/05/eu-dropped-plans-for-safer-pesticides-because-of-ttip-and-pressure-from-us/
======
tzs
See also extensive discussion_from 2_days ago:
[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9587772](https://news.ycombinator.com