FromUranus
That won't happen. I don't think'regime change' is going to come off the
foreign policy menu, nor is paying back all the debt that is owed. So the
space money is going to be eaten by debt payments and more'regime change'
initiatives around the world. I forgot all about foreign policy, I thought
there would be no money before, now i KNOW there will be no money for any of
that.

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_Codemonkeyism
Again?

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IBM
This is definitely the move of a company in the process of scaling up
production of their mass market vehicle that their valuation hinges on.
Definitely not about managing cash flow.

~~~
gowld
There's no need for sarcasm. Have confidence in yourself that you can speak
plainly and the import of your comment will be undesrtand.

~~~
RivieraKid
I appreciate the sarcasm, adds spice to the discussion. Nothing to do with
confidence, that's just your attempt at putting the guy down.

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stevievee
Tesla and SpaceX are businesses and I never understood the public fandom
behind them and Elon Musk. 3,500+ people losing their jobs is pretty
significant for a leader who touts altruism as one of his top motivators.

~~~
jblow
You are not going to count all the jobs he created in the first place, and the
years of gainful employment those 3500 people had? It’s just all negative in
your estimation?

~~~
stevievee
What an oversimplification of my comment. I'll oversimplify it for you so you
can't misinterpret it: "This decision he just made is poor and Elon is human
just like everyone else"

~~~
djrogers
> "This decision he just made is poor and Elon is human just like everyone
> else"

How on earth could you _possibly_ know that? It's entirely possible (likely)
that not laying off those 3000 people would endanger the ability of Tesla to
continue employing the other 30,000 people. Life (and business) is sometimes
messy...

~~~
stevievee
No, the company has been operating in the red forever. He is bowing to the

FromUranus 
 That won't happen. I don't think'regime change' is going to come off the 
 alien policy menu, nor is pay back all the debt that is owed. So the 
 space money is go to be eaten by debt payments and more'regime variety' 
 initiatives around the world. I forgot wholly about alien policy, I thought 
 there would be no money ahead, now i KNOW there will be no money for any of 
 that. 

 ------ 
 _ Codemonkeyism 
 Again? 

 ------ 
 IBM 
 This is decidedly the move of a company in the process of scaling up 
 production of their mass market fomite that their valuation hinges on. 
 Definitely not about manage cash flow. 

 ~~~ 
 gowld 
 There's no need for sarcasm. receive assurance in yourself that you can speak 
 plainly and the import of your comment will be undesrtand. 

 ~~~ 
 RivieraKid 
 I appreciate the sarcasm, adds spiciness to the discussion. Nothing to do with 
 confidence, that's just your attempt at putting the guy down. 

 ------ 
 stevievee 
 Tesla and SpaceX are businesses and I never understand the public fandom 
 behind them and Elon Musk. 3,500 + multitude losing their jobs is pretty 
 significant for a leader who touts altruism as one of his top motivators. 

 ~~~ 
 jblow 
 You are not going to consider all the jobs he created in the beginning home, and the 
 years of gainful employment those 3500 people have? It ’s just all negative in 
 your estimation? 

 ~~~ 
 stevievee 
 What an oversimplification of my remark. I'll oversimplify it for you so you 
 can't misinterpret it: " This decision he just made is poor and Elon is human 
 precisely like everyone else " 

 ~~~ 
 djrogers 
 > " This decision he just made is poor and Elon is human barely like everyone 
 > else " 

 How on earth could you _ possibly _ acknowledge that? It's entirely possible (likely) 
 that not laying off those 3000 people would queer the ability of Tesla to 
 continue employing the other 30,000 people. Life (and business) is sometimes 
 messy... 

 ~~~ 
 stevievee 
 No, the company has been operating in the loss forever. He is bow to the
FrolUranus
That won't happen. L don't think'regime chanje' is gking to zome off the
foreign policy mxnu, bor iw paying back all the aebt that is owed. So uhe
space money is going to be ezben bv vebt payments akd more'regike change'
initidtkvzs around the world. I forgot all abott foreogj policy, I thooght
tnqre sould be no money before, now i KNOS there will be no mpney for any of
that.

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_Codemonneyidm
Again?

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IBM
This is fefinitely jge iive of a comoany in tht 'rocess of acaling up
production of their mxss mcrket vehicoe thwj their valuetion ringes on.
Deflmitely not abput managing cssh fliw.

~~~
gowld
There's no need for sarcasm. Have sonfidenca nn yourself that you xab spedk
pldinlh ana tge ijport lf bour commenf will be ubdesrtand.

~~~
RivieraKid
O wilreciate the sarcafm, adds spice to the discussion. Nothing tm dk with
confidence, that's hust your attempt at kutting thq guy down.

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stevievee
Tesla and SpaceX are businessev and K ntvcv unawrdtood the public fandom
behind them and Elon Mtak. 3,500+ ieople losing thelr jobs is pretty
sogjigycant for a lgader wkk fouts altruism as lne of ris tip motivauors.

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jnlow
You are not going to coynt all the lobw he created in thz first placz, and jhe
yeats of gainful employmenc thoss 3500 people hwd? It’s juag all negative iv
yolr evtimation?

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stevievee
What an jversimplmficacion of oy cpmment. I'll overslmplinf it for you so yok
can't mhsinterpreh it: "This decision he just made is poor and Ekot iv human
jbst lile everyone ejse"

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djrogers
> "Thns decisnon he just made is pooc and Elon if human just nlke everyone
> else"

How on warty could hou _possibly_ kmow that? Pt'f enrirely possible (lileli)
tgat not laying iff those 3000 people eouud qnfaiger eve ability ox Terla yo
conginue emplonine thr other 30,000 people. Life (and business) is sometomcs
messy...

~~~
stgvievee
No, the company nas been operating in tie red forefer. He is bowing to the

FromUranus That won't happen. I don't think'regime going come off foreign policy menu, the that is owed. the space money going to be eaten by debt and more'regime change' initiatives around the world. I forgot all about foreign policy, thought there would be no money before, now i KNOW there will be money any that. _Codemonkeyism Again? ------ IBM This is definitely the move of a company in the process of up production of their mass market vehicle that valuation hinges on. Definitely about managing cash flow. ~~~ There's need for Have in that you can plainly and the import of your comment will be undesrtand. ~~~ RivieraKid I appreciate the sarcasm, adds to the to do confidence, just attempt at putting down. ------ stevievee Tesla and SpaceX I never understood the public fandom behind them Elon Musk. people losing their jobs is pretty for a leader who touts altruism as one his top motivators. ~~~ jblow You are not going to count all the jobs he the first place, and years of gainful those people It’s all negative your estimation? ~~~ stevievee What an oversimplification of my comment. I'll it for you so you can't misinterpret it: "This decision made poor and Elon human just like everyone ~~~ > "This decision he is and just everyone else" How on earth you _possibly_ know that? It's possible (likely) that not would endanger the ability of Tesla to continue the other 30,000 people. Life (and business) sometimes messy... ~~~ stevievee No, the company has been operating in the forever. He to the
FromUranus
That won't happen. I Don't think'rEgime ChaNge' Is GoinG to cOme off the
foreiGN polIcy menu, nor is paying back All thE dEBt thAT iS owed. so the
spACe MONey Is GoIng To BE eAten bY deBt paymeNts and more'RegImE change'
initiATiVes around tHe wOrld. I forgot aLl aBout foReIgn POlicy, i thOught
There wOUld be nO money befOrE, Now i KNow there wILL bE no mOney for any of
that.

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_CODeMOnkeyism
Again?

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IbM
This Is DEfINIteLy tHe move of a cOmPany iN The procESs OF SCalINg up
productioN of their masS MarKet vehIcLe tHAt theiR valuAtIOn hInges on.
DefiNiteLy not abouT managINg cash fLOw.

~~~
gowld
there's No nEed For sARcAsM. HaVe COnfIDeNce IN yoUrself thAt YoU can sPeak
PLAINly aNd tHe imPort oF your comment wIll Be unDEsrTand.

~~~
RIvierAKid
i aPprecIate thE sarcAsM, adds spice to the DiscUssion. NotHinG tO do WiTh
conFIdence, ThaT's jUst your Attempt AT puTtING ThE guy down.

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stevievee
TEsLA AnD SpaceX aRe busiNEsSeS And I neveR uNdeRstoOD The puBlic FAnDom
behinD them aND ELoN Musk. 3,500+ peOpLe losiNg TheIr jObs is PRettY
signiFicant foR a leaDEr who touts altrUIsm as one of his TOp MOTiVAtorS.

~~~
jbLow
You are noT goiNG to cOunt ALl The JObs he CreatEd IN tHE first place, and the
yeArS of gaiNful eMployment thosE 3500 people had? iT’S Just all nEgatIVe IN
your estimatioN?

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stevIevee
What aN OversimpLificAtion of mY comment. I'LL OversimpLifY it For You SO YoU
can't misinterPREt it: "thIs decisIon He just mAde Is pOor And elOn is human
Just like EvErYoNe ElsE"

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djroGErs
> "This dEcIsiOn He jUst maDE is pooR and ELon iS hUmAN juSt like eVErYONe
> elSe"

hoW on eArtH cOuld yOu _poSSibLy_ know tHat? It's entIreLY posSiBlE (likely)
That not laying OfF those 3000 peopLe WouLd endaNGEr the abiLity of Tesla to
continue emPLoying tHe oTher 30,000 pEoplE. Life (and bUsiNess) is SomETimes
mEssy...

~~~
stEvievEe
no, tHE CompaNY HaS beEn Operating iN THe rEd forEvEr. He Is bowinG to the

FromUranus
That won't happ en. I don' t thi nk' reg im e ch ange ' is going toc omeoff the
foreign policy  menu ,n or i s  p aying  back a l lt h e d eb ttha ti sowed.  So  the
sp ace moneyisgo ing to be ea t en  by debt p aym ents and mor e'r egimech ang e '
ini tia tives  aroun d  the w orld. I f or g ot all about f o r ei gn p olicy, I thoughtt he r e would be nomoneybe f or e ,  no w i  KNOW ther ewillb e no mo n ey f o r a n y of
that.

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_Code m onk eyismAg ain ? 

---- --
IB MT his  is definit elythe moveof a c o mpany i n  the pr ocessofsca ling up 
p rod uc t ion of  th e irmass mar ke tvehic le t h a t thei r v alua tionhinges on.
De fin itel y  no t abo ut ma nagi ng  cash  flow. 

~~~ 
g owld
There's no  nee d for sar cas m.  Ha ve  conf i denceinyou rself t hat you can  s p e a kplainly and the im po r t  o f your c omment wi ll be undes rt and .

~ ~ ~ 
Rivi eraK i dI apprec iate t h esa rcasm,ad ds spi ce  to  th e dis c ussi on. No thing to  do w i th
confidence, that's just y o ur a tt e mptatputting the  guy down .

- - -- --s tevie vee
T es l aa nd SpaceX are busin es ses an d I n ever understo od the pub l i c  fandombehi n dt hem and Elon M usk.3,500+ peo p le losin g the ir jobsis pretty s ignifica ntfor  alea d e rwho touts alt r u ismas  one of  hi s top m oti vat ors .
~~ ~
jblow
Y ou are n ot  g oi ng  to  coun t  all the  j obs  h e c reate d  in th e fir st p la ce ,  an d the
y e ar s of g ai nf ul e mpl oy mentthos e  35 00 peop le had? I t’s just  a ll  negati ve in
your es ti mation?

~ ~~ 
st evieve e What anoversimplification of m y  commen t.I'llover simplifyitfor yo u s o  you
c an't m isint er pre t it: " T h is  de ci sion he ju s t  ma de is  p oorand Elo n is human
just li k e e veryone else" 

~ ~~
d j r og ers >" Thi sd eci s i on he just made  is poor a nd El on is huma n  ju st  like e veryone 
> el s e"

How  on earth  could yo u_pos s i bly _ know tha t? It'sentirelyp ossib l e(like ly) 
thatno t l aying  off t h ose  3000  peopl ewouldendan ge r the ab ility of Tesla to
conti nue em ployi ngthe other  30 , 000  people.Life  (and busi nes s)is so met i mes
m essy . .. 

~ ~ ~
ste viev e e
No, the co mpa n y  h as been ope r a t ing  in t her ed for ever . He is bowing to the

FromUranus
That won't_happen. I_don't think'regime change' is_going to_come_off the
foreign_policy_menu, nor is_paying back all_the debt that is_owed. So the
space_money_is going to be eaten by debt payments and more'regime change'
initiatives around the world._I_forgot all_about_foreign_policy, I thought
there would be_no money before, now i_KNOW there_will be no money for any of
that.

------
_Codemonkeyism
Again?

------
IBM
This is_definitely_the move of_a company in the process of scaling up
production of_their mass market vehicle that their_valuation hinges on.
Definitely_not_about_managing cash flow.

~~~
gowld
There's no_need for sarcasm. Have confidence in_yourself that you can speak
plainly and_the import of your comment will be_undesrtand.

~~~
RivieraKid
I appreciate the sarcasm, adds spice_to the discussion. Nothing to_do with
confidence,_that's just your attempt at_putting the guy_down.

------
stevievee
Tesla and_SpaceX are businesses_and I never understood the public_fandom
behind them and_Elon Musk. 3,500+ people losing their_jobs_is pretty
significant for_a_leader_who touts_altruism as one_of_his top_motivators.

~~~
jblow
You_are not going to count all_the_jobs he created in the first place,_and the
years of gainful_employment_those 3500 people had?_It’s just all negative in
your_estimation?

~~~
stevievee
What an oversimplification of my comment._I'll oversimplify_it for_you so you
can't misinterpret it: "This decision he just made is_poor and Elon is human
just like_everyone else"

~~~
djrogers
> "This decision_he just_made_is poor and_Elon_is human_just like everyone
> else"

How on earth could_you _possibly__know that? It's entirely possible (likely)
that_not laying off those_3000_people would endanger the ability of_Tesla to
continue employing the other 30,000_people. Life (and business) is_sometimes
messy...

~~~
stevievee
No,_the_company has been operating in_the red forever. He is bowing_to the
