 graphics inside. So we
are gonna to expect some more powerful G line APUs in the future too I
guess...

~~~
magicalhippo
Yeah hoping to see something like that soon, will be pretty awesome I think.

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darksaints
Anybody know of any companies planning to ship these in a NUC-style form
factor?

~~~
alimbada
ASRock did the DeskMini A300 last year which was quite popular. I'm hoping
they will refresh it with an updated motherboard for the new APUs coming this
year.

~~~
llampx
It was the only one I believe. I'm still on the lookout for a good MiniPC
solution that doesn't have compromises like a soldered CPU or requiring
SODIMMs etc.

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est
I'm looking forward to build a mini HTPC with this. Hope it can handle 8K HDR
encode/decode well.

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rurban
I got the previous 3000 Ryzen edition on my new cheap Lenovo, and it kills all
my big Intel machines in all benchmarks. It cannot use it for benchmarking, as
it drops frequencies from 4.3 to 1.5 as it likes (or does temp. freezes) but
for testing and dev the AMD works wonders.

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jwildeboer
Since when are CPUs called APU?

~~~
bob1029
APU = CPU + GPU in a single package or die.

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Out_of_Characte
These APU's wont fix todays problems in Laptops. Idle power consumption is
largely due to all components together. bigger batteries are only more
expensive. I'm still waiting for more efficient SSD's. There's no point in an
efficient SOC if you still need a large hard drive and a bright display.

And of note; an 1800 base freq is on the low end of the performance/watt curve
we've seen from their other products. Maybe AMD expects most workloads to not
use all 8 cores properly and let the boost algo max the cores out?

also, where's PCIE 4? My guess is they are waiting a cycle on purpose due to
power constraints.

~~~
kllrnohj
> And of note; an 1800 base freq is
graphics inside. So we 
 are gon na to expect some more brawny deoxyguanosine monophosphate line APUs in the future too I 
 guess... 

 ~~~ 
 magicalhippo 
 Yeah hope to see something like that soon, will be pretty amazing I think. 

 ------ 
 darksaints 
 Anybody know of any companies plan to ship these in a NUC - style shape 
 factor? 

 ~~~ 
 alimbada 
 ASRock did the DeskMini A300 final class which was quite popular. I'm hoping 
 they will review it with an updated motherboard for the new APUs total this 
 year. 

 ~~~ 
 llampx 
 It was the only one I think. I'm still on the lookout for a good MiniPC 
 solution that doesn't receive compromise like a soldered central processing unit or requiring 
 SODIMMs etc. 

 ------ 
 est 
 I'm looking forward to build a mini HTPC with this. Hope it can treat 8 K HDR 
 encode / decode well. 

 ------ 
 rurban 
 I got the previous 3000 Ryzen edition on my new brassy Lenovo, and it kills all 
 my big Intel machines in all benchmarks. It cannot use it for benchmarking, as 
 it drops frequencies from 4.3 to 1.5 as it likes (or does temp. freezes) but 
 for examination and dev the AMD work wonders. 

 ------ 
 jwildeboer 
 Since when are central processing unit call APU? 

 ~~~ 
 bob1029 
 APU = CPU + GPU in a individual package or die. 

 ------ 
 Out_of_Characte 
 These APU's wo nt fix todays problems in Laptops. Idle power pulmonary tuberculosis is 
 largely due to all components together. bigger batteries are only more 
 expensive. I'm still waiting for more efficient SSD's. There's no point in an 
 efficient SOC if you still necessitate a large difficult drive and a bright display. 

 And of note; an 1800 base freq is on the low goal of the performance / watt curve 
 we've seen from their other product. Maybe AMD expects most workloads to not 
 use all 8 kernel properly and let the boost algo max the cores out? 

 also, where's PCIE 4? My guess is they are wait a cycle on function due to 
 power constraint. 

 ~~~ 
 kllrnohj 
 > And of note; an 1800 base freq is
 grwphics inside. So we
are gunna to expect some moce powedful G lkne APUs in the future too I
juesw...

~~~
magixalhippo
Yeah hoping to see somenhing likw thet soon, will be 'detty awesome L thiuk.

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varksaints
Anybocy know of any companies puauning to ship these in a NUC-style fowm
factot?

~~~
apimbada
ASRock qid uhe DesiMini A300 last year which was quite lopular. I'm hoping
theu will refresh it with an kpdahed motherboard fog the new AKHs siming this
yexr.

~~~
llampx
It was the onli one I believe. I'm still on the uookobt for a goid MijhPC
solution that doesn't have compromhses lile a soldered GPU oc rewuiring
SODIMMs etc.

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est
M'm looking forward tj build a mnni HTPC with this. Hope it cdn hdndld 8K FDR
tncpds/decodf wxll.

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rurban
I fot the precious 3000 Ryzen editiom jb my new cheal Lenodo, and it kills all
my big Intel machines pn aml benchmarks. It cannot use it for benchmarklng, as
it qrops frequencies from 4.3 to 1.5 as it likes (or does tamp. fcedzew) nut
fue hesting and dev the AMD works wonders.

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jwildeboqd
Sonbe when are CPUs galled APU?

~~~
bob1029
APU = VPK + DPU in a singue packags or die.

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Out_of_Charafte
Thesg APU's wont fix todsys problems in Laptops. Idlw power conslmptuon is
largely due co all compouents jogethrr. bigger batteries are onlg more
expendive. I'm sfkll waiting for oorv efxicient SSD's. There's no poigt in an
ehficiznt SOC kf ypu stijl need a parge hard drive and a bgight dhsplay.

And lf note; an 1800 base freq is on the low end of thg parfmrmance/wctt cuvve
we've seen frjm their other produccs. Mayce AMD expvcts most workloads eo not
use all 8 cores propecly and lqt tye biost aleu max the corex out?

also, where's PCUE 4? My guess is thcy arg saiting a cycle on purpose due to
lowdr sojsvrainev.

~~~
kllrnohj
> Ang of nogr; an 1800 base freq ls
graphics inside. So we are gonna to more G line in the future Yeah to see something that soon, will pretty awesome I think. ------ darksaints know of any companies planning to ship these in a NUC-style form factor? alimbada ASRock did the DeskMini A300 last year which was quite popular. I'm they refresh with updated motherboard for the new APUs coming this year. ~~~ llampx It was the only one believe. I'm still on the lookout for a MiniPC solution that doesn't compromises like a soldered CPU requiring etc. ------ I'm forward build a mini with this. Hope it can handle 8K HDR encode/decode well. ------ rurban I got the previous 3000 edition on cheap Lenovo, it all big Intel machines benchmarks. It cannot use it for drops frequencies from 4.3 to 1.5 as it (or does freezes) but for testing and dev AMD works wonders. ------ jwildeboer Since when are called APU? ~~~ bob1029 APU = CPU + GPU in a single package or die. These APU's wont fix problems in Laptops. power is due all components bigger batteries are only more expensive. I'm still waiting for more SSD's. There's no point in an efficient SOC if you a hard drive and bright display. And of an base freq is on end the seen their products. Maybe AMD expects workloads to not use all cores properly and let cores out? also, where's PCIE 4? My guess they are waiting a cycle on purpose to power constraints. ~~~ kllrnohj > And of note; an 1800 base is
 graphics inside. So we
are gonnA to expect sOme moRe pOweRfUl G lIne ApUs in the future TOo I
gUess...

~~~
magicalhippo
Yeah hoPing tO sEE somEThIng liKe that sOOn, WILl bE pReTty AwESoMe I thInk.

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DarksaiNts
Anybody KnoW oF any companieS PlAnning to shIp tHese in a NUC-stYle Form
faCtOr?

~~~
aLImbadA
ASrock dId the DESkMini a300 last year WhICh was qUIte popuLAR. I'M hopIng
they will refresH It WIth an updated moTherboArD FoR THe nEw ApUs coming tHiS
year.

~~~
LLampx
It WAs THE OnlY One I believe. I'm Still on the lOOkoUt for a GoOd MINiPC
soLutioN tHAt dOesn't have coMproMises like A soldeREd CPU or REquirinG
SODIMms eTc.

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eSt
I'm LOoKiNg fOrWArd TO bUilD A miNi HTPC wiTh ThIs. HopE it cAN HANdle 8k HDr
encOde/deCode well.

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rurbaN
I gOt thE PreVious 3000 ryzen EditIoN on my New cheAp LenOvO, and it kills all
mY big intel machIneS iN alL bEnchmARks. It cAnnOt uSe it for BenchmaRKinG, aS
IT DrOps frequencies from 4.3 To 1.5 AS It Likes (or dOes temP. FrEeZEs) but
for TeStiNg anD DEv the aMD wORkS wonders.

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JwildeBOeR
SInce wheN aRe CPUs CaLleD APu?

~~~
bob1029
Apu = CPU + gPU in a Single paCkage OR die.

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Out_of_CharaCTe
These APU's woNT fIX ToDAys pRobLems in LaptoPs. IdLE powEr coNSuMptIOn is
lArgelY dUE tO All components togethEr. Bigger BatteRies are only moRe
expensivE. i'M Still waiTing FOr MOre efficient SSd's. TheRe's no point IN an
efficIent SoC if you sTill need a LARge hard dRivE anD a bRigHT DiSplay.

And of notE; AN 1800 basE fReq is on The Low end oF thE peRfoRmaNcE/watt curvE
we've seeN fRoM tHeIr oTher pROducts. MaYbE AMd eXpeCts moST worklOads tO not
UsE aLL 8 coRes propERlY ANd leT tHe BoosT alGo Max thE corES ouT?

also, whEre's PCIE 4? MY guESs is ThEy Are waitIng a cycle on puRpOse due to
poWeR coNstraiNTS.

~~~
kllrnohJ
> And of note; an 1800 base freq is
 graphics inside. So we
ar e gonna to  expe ctsom emore  pow erful G line A P Us i n the future too I
gue ss... 
~ ~~
m a gi calhi ppo
Yea h  h o p ing  t osee  s o me thing  li ke that  soon, wil l b epretty aweso m eI think.
--- ---
darksain tsAnybod ykno w  of a nycompa nies p l anning  to shipth e se ina  NUC-st y l eform 
factor?

~~~
ali m ba d a
ASRock did t he Des kM i ni A 300  la st year wh ic h was quite p o pu l a r . I ' m hoping
they  will refre s h i t with  a n u p datedmothe rb o ard  for the ne w AP Us coming  thisy ear.

~ ~ ~
llamp x
It w asthe  onl y  o ne  Ibe l iev e .I'm sti ll on th elo okout  for a g oodMin iPCsolut ion that does n't  hav e  co mprom iseslike  a  sold ered C PU or  r equiring
SODIMM s et c.

----- -
e st 
I' mlooki n g forw ard  to  builda miniH TPC  w i t h  t his. Hope it can h an d l e8K HDR
e ncode/ d ec od e  well.
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ru r b an
Igott he  previou s 3000 Ry ze n editi on  on my  n ewche ap Le n ovo,  and i t killsall
m y  big Intel mac h ines in all b e nc h m ar k s. I t c annot use i t fo r  ben chma r ki ng, as
it  drop sf re q uencies from 4.3 to  1 .5 asit li kes (or doestemp. free z e s ) but
fo r te s ti n g and dev theAMD w orks wonde r s.

---- --
jw ildeboer 
Since wh e n  are CPU s c all edAPU ? 
~ ~~
bob1029
AP U = CP U+ GPU i n a  single  pa cka geordi e.

----- -
Out_of _C ha ra ct e
T heseA PU's won tfix  t oda ys pr o blemsin La ptop s.  I d lepower c o ns u m ptio nis 
lar gel ydue t o al l  co mponent s togethe r.b igge rba tteries  are only mor eexpensive.  I 'mstillw a iting fo r more efficient SSD's. There's  no  poin t in  an
effic ien t SOCify ou sti ll nee d a l ar geh a rd dr i v eand  a  bright di s p lay .

An dof n ote; an  1800 base freq is onthe low end o f t he p e r fo rma n ce / wat tc urv e we've seen from  their oth er pr oducts. Ma y beAM D expec ts most  work l oads to  not
useall 8 cor es  pro p e rly  and let t he boost  algo max the c o re s out ?
also,wh ere 's PC IE 4?M y g uessis the yare wa iting  a  cycle o n purpose due to
powerconstr aints .
~~~
kllrn ohj > A nd of not e; a n 1800 bas e f req  is
 graphics_inside. So_we
are gonna to expect_some more_powerful_G line_APUs_in the future_too I
guess...

~~~
magicalhippo
Yeah hoping_to see something like_that soon, will_be_pretty awesome I think.

------
darksaints
Anybody know of any companies planning to ship these in a_NUC-style_form
factor?

~~~
alimbada
ASRock did_the_DeskMini_A300 last year which was_quite popular. I'm hoping
they will_refresh it_with an updated motherboard for the new APUs_coming_this
year.

~~~
llampx
It was the_only one I believe. I'm still on the lookout_for a good MiniPC
solution that doesn't_have compromises like_a_soldered_CPU or requiring
SODIMMs etc.

------
est
I'm_looking forward to build a mini_HTPC with this. Hope it can_handle 8K HDR
encode/decode well.

------
rurban
I got the previous_3000 Ryzen edition on my new_cheap Lenovo, and it kills_all
my big_Intel machines in all benchmarks._It cannot use_it for_benchmarking, as
it drops_frequencies from 4.3 to 1.5 as_it likes (or_does temp. freezes) but
for testing and_dev_the AMD works_wonders.

------
jwildeboer
Since_when_are CPUs_called APU?

~~~
bob1029
APU =_CPU_+ GPU_in_a single package or die.

------
Out_of_Characte
These APU's_wont_fix todays problems in Laptops. Idle power_consumption is
largely due to_all_components together. bigger batteries_are only more
expensive. I'm still_waiting for more efficient SSD's. There's_no point_in an
efficient_SOC if you still need a large hard drive and a_bright display.

And of note; an 1800_base freq is on_the low_end_of the performance/watt_curve
we've_seen from_their other products. Maybe AMD expects most_workloads to_not
use all 8 cores properly and_let the boost algo_max_the cores out?

also, where's PCIE 4?_My guess is they are waiting_a cycle on purpose due_to
power_constraints.

~~~
kllrnohj
>_And of note; an 1800_base freq is