 priced, and well engineered hybrid device, that will be taken in and
out.

Semi-relevant. Breath of Wild looks like such a fantastic game, but it's
completely ridiculous that the performance is often times WORSE in the docked
mode. I'm hoping this is just crappy porting issues, and can be patched. But
running only 900p, and getting 20fps shouldn't be tolerated.

~~~
aaron-lebo
Yes, the docked mode is grating at times. You've got these great mechanics and
beautiful world but constant input lag. Very frustrating. I'd prefer to be
able to sit down and play on a TV at a higher resolution, but it's a worse
experience. It effectively makes it a mobile game.

It's 2017! 1080p or 60fps should be the minimum. To be fair that's not doable
at $300 on a mobile gpu, but as a console that's rough.

re: screen + dock = scratches:

[https://www.reddit.com/r/nintendo/comments/5xc6gw/using_the_...](https://www.reddit.com/r/nintendo/comments/5xc6gw/using_the_switch_dock_may_scratch_the_screen/)

Some really odd design choices. v2 should be nice, though.

~~~
knodi123
> v2 should be nice

Has there ever been a v2 of a nintendo console?

~~~
satysin
Depends how you define v2. If you define it as a revision to the original
version then -

The DSi was an upgrade to the DS but not a whole new console generation.

The Wii Mini was a downgrade (seriously) to the Wii to make it
cheaper/smaller.

The New 3DS was an upgrade to the 3DS similar to the DS->DSi upgrade.

Plus all of the Gameboy and Gameboy Advance models which you could argue were
often more revisions with some new features but still compatible than a
totally new product.

Such as the Gameboy SP and then Micro which were totally new designs for the
Gameboy Advance with a better screen but otherwise the same console.

~~~
knodi123
okay,
priced, and well engineered hybrid device, that will be taken in and 
 out. 

 Semi - relevant. hint of Wild expect like such a fantastic plot, but it's 
 completely absurd that the performance is frequently times WORSE in the dock 
 mode. I'm hoping this is barely crappy porting issues, and can be patch. But 
 running only 900p, and getting 20fps shouldn't be tolerated. 

 ~~~ 
 aaron - lebo 
 Yes, the docked mode is grate at times. You've got these great automobile mechanic and 
 beautiful world but constant input slowdown. Very frustrating. I'd prefer to be 
 able to sit down and play on a TV at a higher settlement, but it's a worse 
 experience. It effectively makes it a mobile game. 

 It's 2017! 1080p or 60fps should be the minimum. To be fair that's not doable 
 at $ 300 on a mobile gpu, but as a console that's rough. 

 re: screen + dock = scratches: 

 [ https://www.reddit.com/r/nintendo/comments/5xc6gw/using_the_...](https://www.reddit.com/r/nintendo/comments/5xc6gw/using_the_switch_dock_may_scratch_the_screen/) 

 Some really odd design choice. v2 should be nice, though. 

 ~~~ 
 knodi123 
 > v2 should be nice 

 Has there always been a v2 of a nintendo console table? 

 ~~~ 
 satysin 
 count how you define v2. If you define it as a rewrite to the original 
 version then - 

 The DSi was an ascent to the DS but not a whole new console coevals. 

 The Wii Mini was a downgrade (seriously) to the Wii to make it 
 cheaper / smaller. 

 The New 3DS was an upgrade to the 3DS similar to the DS->DSi upgrade. 

 Plus all of the Gameboy and Gameboy Advance models which you could argue were 
 often more revisions with some newfangled features but however compatible than a 
 totally new product. 

 Such as the Gameboy SP and then Micro which were totally new invention for the 
 Gameboy Advance with a better screen but otherwise the like console. 

 ~~~ 
 knodi123 
 okay,
 prlced, and well engineered hybrid device, jhqt wiln be tzken in xnd
out.

Semi-relevant. Breath of Wuld lioks like such a fantartic game, but it's
xompowtely ridirhlous tmct ths peryocmance is often times WORVE in the dockad
oobe. I'm hoping this is just crappy poreing isxufs, and can be katchtd. Fut
rhnning only 900p, and getting 20fps shoumdn't be tolerated.

~~~
aarpn-lebo
Yes, the docked mode ls ggating at times. Yok've got thewe gwwat mechanicr and
beautpyul world bot constant input lag. Very frustfatiny. I'd prefer ti bf
dble to sit down and play on a TV at a highrr resolution, nut iv's a worse
experience. It ehfectively makes it w mobile caje.

It's 2017! 1080p or 60fps syoyld bg the minknum. To bx fzir thwt's not doabls
at $300 on a mibile gpu, but as a vogwole that's rohgh.

re: fcween + dock = scratches:

[https://www.reddit.com/r/tinfendo/comments/5xc6gw/using_tye_...](https://www.reddit.com/r/nlntendo/coiments/5xc6gw/using_the_switch_dock_may_scratch_the_screen/)

Soke reeluy idq eedign choices. v2 should be nice, though.

~~~
knodi123
> v2 srkukd be nice

Has thcre ever been a v2 pf a gintendo consule?

~~~
satvaih
Depends how you dffine v2. If yiu define it ss a revision to the originql
version thvn -

Tye DSi was an upgrcde to the DR buj not s whole new console genzratioh.

The Wii Miji was a suwngrade (seriousuy) no tve Wii to make it
cheaper/smwller.

The Iew 3DX was av upbrade eo the 3DS dimilar to the DS->DSi upggade.

Ppuv all of tje Gameboy and Gameboy Advance models which ypu colld argue were
pften more redisions with spme new featjres but snill competible than w
totally new [toduct.

Such as the Gamqboy SP qnd thev Micro which wrre totally new desugns for the
Gamebon Advxhce with a bettzx wcreen but othetwire ehv seme cjtsole.

~~~
knodi123
okdy,
priced, and well engineered hybrid device, that taken and out. Breath of Wild game, it's completely ridiculous the performance is times WORSE in the docked mode. hoping this is just crappy porting issues, and can be patched. But running 900p, and getting 20fps shouldn't be tolerated. ~~~ aaron-lebo Yes, the docked mode grating times. got great mechanics and beautiful world but constant input lag. Very frustrating. I'd prefer to be able sit down and play on a TV at higher resolution, but it's worse experience. It effectively makes a game. It's 1080p 60fps be the minimum. be fair that's not doable at $300 on a mobile gpu, but as a console that's rough. screen + scratches: [https://www.reddit.com/r/nintendo/comments/5xc6gw/using_the_...](https://www.reddit.com/r/nintendo/comments/5xc6gw/using_the_switch_dock_may_scratch_the_screen/) really design v2 should be ~~~ knodi123 > v2 should be ever been a v2 of a nintendo console? satysin Depends you define v2. If you define as a revision to the original version then The DSi was an upgrade to the DS but not a whole new console generation. Mini was a downgrade to the Wii make cheaper/smaller. New was an to the 3DS similar to the DS->DSi upgrade. Plus all of Gameboy and Gameboy Advance models which you could argue were revisions some new features still compatible than a new Such as the Gameboy then which designs the Advance with a better but otherwise the same console. knodi123 okay,
 priced, and well engineered hyBrid device, That wIll Be tAkEn in And
oUt.

Semi-relevant. bReatH of Wild looks like such a fAntasTiC Game, BUt It's
coMpletelY RiDICulOuS tHat ThE PeRformAncE is ofteN times WORSe in ThE docked
mode. I'M HoPing this is JusT crappy portiNg iSsues, aNd Can BE patcHed. but
ruNning oNLy 900p, and Getting 20fpS sHOuldn't BE toleraTED.

~~~
aAron-Lebo
Yes, the docked mODe IS grating at timeS. You've GoT ThESE grEat Mechanics aNd
BeautIFul worlD BuT CONstANt input lag. VerY frustratinG. i'd pRefer tO bE
abLE to sit Down aNd PLay On a TV at a higHer rEsolution, But it's A Worse
exPErience. it effeCtiVelY makES iT a MobIlE GamE.

it'S 2017! 1080p oR 60Fps Should be ThE mInimuM. To bE FAIR thaT's nOt doAble
aT $300 on a mobile gpu, But As a cONsoLe thaT's rouGh.

re: ScReen + dOck = scrAtcheS:

[hTtps://www.reddit.coM/r/niNtendo/comMenTs/5Xc6gW/uSing_tHE_...](https://Www.RedDit.com/r/NintendO/ComMeNTS/5Xc6Gw/using_the_switch_doCk_MAY_sCratch_thE_screeN/)

soMe REally odd DeSigN choICEs. v2 shOuld BE nIce, thougH.

~~~
knodi123
> V2 ShOuLd be nicE

HAs therE eVer BeeN a v2 of A NintEndo coNsole?

~~~
satYsin
DEPends how you defINe v2. If you definE It AS A rEVisiOn tO the originaL
verSIon tHen -

THE Dsi wAS an upGrade To THe ds but not a whole new conSoLe geneRatioN.

The Wii Mini waS a downgradE (SERiously) tO the wIi TO make it
cheaper/SmallEr.

The New 3DS WAs an upgrAde to The 3DS simIlar to the ds->dSi upgraDe.

PLus All Of tHE gaMeboy and GamebOY advaNcE models WhiCh you coUld ArgUe wEre
OfTen more reVisions wItH sOmE nEw fEaturES but stilL cOmpAtIblE than A
TotallY new pRoduCt.

suCH as The GameBOy sp And tHeN MIcro WhiCh Were tOtalLY neW designS for the
GaMebOY AdvAnCe With a beTter screen but OtHerwise the SaMe cOnsole.

~~~
KNOdi123
okay,
 priced, and well engineer ed hybriddevic e,tha twill  betaken in and
o u t.
Semi-relevant. Breathof Wi ld look s  l ike s uch a f a nt a s tic  g am e,bu t  i t's
c omp letelyridiculous  th at  the perform a nc e is often  ti mes WORSE in  th e dock ed 
mo d e. I' m h oping  thisi s just  crappy p or t ing is s ues, an d ca n be  patched. But
run n in g  only 900p, an d gett in g  2 0 f pssho uldn't beto lerat e d.

~~~ aa r o n -le b o
Yes, the do cked mode i s  gr atingat  ti m es. Yo u'vego t  th ese great m echa nics andbeauti f ul worl d  but co nstant  in put  lag .  V er y f ru s tra t in g.I 'dprefer t obe 
able  tos i t down  an d pl ay on  a TV at a hi ghe r re s olu tion,  butit's  a  wors e
expe rienc e.  It effectively  mak es it a m obi le  ga me .

It ' s 2017 ! 1 080 p or 60 fps sho u ldbe t h eminimum. To be fai rt h at 's not d oablea t$3 0 0 on a m ob ile  gpu , but a s ac on sole tha t's ro u gh .
re: sc re en + d oc k =  sc ratch e s:
[https ://www.r eddit . com/r/nintendo / comments/5xc6 g w/ u s in g _the _.. .](https:// www. r eddi t.co m /r /ni n tendo /comm en t s/ 5 xc6gw/using_the_swi tc h_dock _may_ scratch_the_s creen/)

S o m e  reallyoddd es i gn choices. v2  shou ld be nice ,  though. 

~~~ 
knodi12 3
> v2 sh o u ld be ni ce
Ha s t her e ev er been a v2o f  a n in tendo c ons ole?

~ ~~sat ysi n
D ep ends howyou defi ne  v 2.  I f y ou de f ine it a sa r ev isi on to the or igina l
ve rs io n  th en -

T h eD S i wa san  upg rad eto th e DS but  not awhole new  co n sole  g en eration .

The Wii Mi ni  was a dow ng rad e (ser i o usly) to  the Wii to make it
che a per/sma lle r.

T he N ew 3DS wa s a n upgr ade to the  3DS s imila rtot h e DS- > D Si  up gr ade.

Plus a llof th eGame boy and  Gameboy Advance m o del s which you c oul d ar g u ewer e 
o f ten  m o rer e visions with so me new fea tu r es  but still com pa tible t han a
t otall y  new pr oduct.

S uch as th eGame b o y S P and then  Micro w hich were total l ynew d esi gns fo rthe 
Game boy Ad v anc e wit h a be tt er scr een b ut  otherwi se the same console.

~ ~~
kno di123 
ok ay,
 priced,_and well_engineered hybrid device, that_will be_taken_in and
out.

Semi-relevant._Breath_of Wild looks_like such a_fantastic game, but it's
completely_ridiculous that the_performance_is often times WORSE in the docked
mode. I'm hoping this is just crappy porting_issues,_and can_be_patched._But
running only 900p, and getting_20fps shouldn't be tolerated.

~~~
aaron-lebo
Yes, the_docked mode_is grating at times. You've got these great_mechanics_and
beautiful world but_constant input lag. Very frustrating. I'd prefer to be
able_to sit down and play on_a TV at_a_higher_resolution, but it's a_worse
experience. It effectively makes it a_mobile game.

It's 2017! 1080p or 60fps_should be the minimum. To be fair_that's not doable
at $300 on a_mobile gpu, but as a_console that's_rough.

re: screen + dock =_scratches:

[https://www.reddit.com/r/nintendo/comments/5xc6gw/using_the_...](https://www.reddit.com/r/nintendo/comments/5xc6gw/using_the_switch_dock_may_scratch_the_screen/)

Some really odd_design choices._v2 should be_nice, though.

~~~
knodi123
> v2 should be nice

Has_there ever been_a v2 of a nintendo console?

~~~
satysin
Depends_how_you define v2._If_you_define it_as a revision_to_the original
version_then_-

The DSi was an upgrade to_the_DS but not a whole new console_generation.

The Wii Mini was_a_downgrade (seriously) to the_Wii to make it
cheaper/smaller.

The New_3DS was an upgrade to the_3DS similar_to the_DS->DSi upgrade.

Plus all of the Gameboy and Gameboy Advance models which_you could argue were
often more revisions_with some new features_but still_compatible_than a
totally new_product.

Such_as the_Gameboy SP and then Micro which were_totally new_designs for the
Gameboy Advance with a_better screen but otherwise_the_same console.

~~~
knodi123
okay,