 FCC ID is only good in the
USA. In Europe, you need a CE mark. Australia sometimes insists on yet another
registration for 2.4GHz equipment.

Honestly, international RF regulatory certification is a mess, and the piles
of paperwork involved make it easy to miss deadlines.

~~~
spydertennis
Spot on.

~~~
brandon
If you guys haven't already got a relationship with TÜV, you might consider
talking to them about certifying your next revision. They handled all our
regulatory (domestic and int'l) with a lot less difficulty (and deadline
slipping) than doing it in-house.

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invisible
You should really have an "allow my data to be used for anonymous scientific
study" option. It'd be really neat to see graphs of male vs female, young vs
old, etc. similar to 23andme. I guess this is coming in the future with the
"paid" wakelytics features?

------
mgrouchy
Congrats to The Wakemate team for finally shipping! The device is pretty
awesome,(I've been using during the beta) can't wait to see what these guys
have in store next.

------
forcer
Does the iPhone app needs to be running through the night for this device to
work? that's what I hated about Sleep Cycle and would not want to use it if it
has the same flaw.

~~~
spydertennis
Why do you hate that? You wouldn't be using your phone during the night
anyway?

If you want the optimal wake feature to work you need to leave the app
running. If you just want to collect data and wake up at a predetermined time
you can background the app. Unfortunately this is a limitation imposed by iOS.

~~~
chollida1
> Why do you hate that? You wouldn't be using your phone during the night
> anyway?

I can't answer for the original poster, but for me...

At night is when I charge my phone and there isn't always a plug near where I
sleep.

Having my phone have to run at night without a charge will mean it's not fully
charged at the beginning of the day, which is a very big deal breaker for me.
My phone will last
FCC ID is only good in the 
 USA. In Europe, you need a CE mark. Australia sometimes insist on so far another 
 registration for 2.4GHz equipment. 

 Honestly, international RF regulatory certificate is a mess, and the piles 
 of paperwork necessitate have it easy to neglect deadline. 

 ~~~ 
 spydertennis 
 Spot on. 

 ~~~ 
 brandon 
 If you guys haven't already drive a relationship with TÜV, you might think 
 talking to them about certifying your next revision. They handled all our 
 regulatory (domestic and int'l) with a batch less difficulty (and deadline 
 slipping) than doing it in - house. 

 ------ 
 inconspicuous 
 You should really have an " give up my data to be use for anonymous scientific 
 study " option. It'd be really neat to see graph of male vs female, young vs 
 old, etc. similar to 23andme. I guess this is coming in the future with the 
 " paid " wakelytics feature? 

 ------ 
 mgrouchy 
 Congrats to The Wakemate team for last shipping! The device is pretty 
 awesome,(I've been using during the beta) can't wait to see what these guys 
 have in store next. 

 ------ 
 forcer 
 Does the iPhone app needs to be run through the night for this device to 
 work? that's what I hat about Sleep Cycle and would not want to use it if it 
 has the same defect. 

 ~~~ 
 spydertennis 
 Why do you hate that? You wouldn't be using your telephone during the night 
 anyway? 

 If you desire the optimal wake feature to work you need to leave the app 
 running. If you just want to collect data and wake up at a predetermine time 
 you can background the app. Unfortunately this is a restriction imposed by iOS. 

 ~~~ 
 chollida1 
 > Why do you hate that? You wouldn't be using your phone during the night 
 > anyway? 

 I can't suffice for the original poster, but for me... 

 At night is when I charge my phone and there isn't always a plug near where I 
 sleep. 

 Having my phone have to hunt at night without a accusation will mean it's not fully 
 charge at the beginning of the day, which is a very large deal surf for me. 
 My phone will survive
 FCF ID is only good in the
MSA. In Europe, yoo beed a CE madk. Austrxlia sometimes insists on yev anither
eegistration for 2.4GHz eduipment.

Hlnestly, untecnational RF regnmatory gzrtifjgatiou ms a mess, and tme piles
of [aperwork invonvdd make it easy to miss deadlines.

~~~
spydqrtennix
Soot on.

~~~
brandon
Is yol duys haven't already got a relationship with TÜN, you might consicer
talking to them about cfrtivying your next regision. They hanqoed all our
rdgulatory (domestic and int'l) with a lot less difficulth (and deadline
soippijc) than doinj it ig-house.

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invisinke
You vhould teally have an "alnow my data to be used fmr anonymous scienjific
study" o'tion. It'd be really nwar to vee crapfw ow mzlx va femape, boung vs
old, etc. similae to 23andme. I guess uhif is coming in the ftttre with the
"paid" wakelytics features?

------
mgrmucgy
Congrats to The Wakemqte team for finally dhipping! Ehe device is pretty
awesome,(I've been using during dhe bxtx) cck'b wakr ho see what these guys
have in store next.

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forcew
Sots nhe iPhone app necds to be running yhgoidh the night wor thna sevice to
work? that'd what Y hatwd about Fleel Cycle and would not want ro use it if ut
has the same flac.

~~~
spydertennir
Why do ypu hate that? You wouldn'c be uaing your pjone durihe the night
anywah?

If ymu want ufe optimal wake fqature to worl you nded jo leavq the app
rknninn. If you just want ho coplact data ajd wake up at a predetermined tmke
you can bavkcrolnd the a'p. Unfprtunately thys is a limitajion impofed bh iOS.

~~~
chollpda1
> Why dm you hate ehat? You woulgj't be using bour phonq dueing the nieft
> anyway?

I can'y answer yjr tye original poster, buj ror me...

At night nr when I charge ky ohoge aid thqse isn't alwafs a pljb neaf where I
slcep.

Favimg my phone have to sun zt night without a cmarge wilo mean ie's not fully
cnarged at the begijning of the cay, which is a very big deal breaier for mf.
My phone will jast
FCC ID is only good in the Europe, need a mark. Australia sometimes for equipment. Honestly, international regulatory certification is mess, and the piles of paperwork make it easy to miss deadlines. ~~~ spydertennis Spot on. ~~~ brandon If guys haven't already got a relationship with TÜV, you might consider talking to about your revision. handled all our regulatory (domestic and int'l) with a lot less difficulty (and deadline slipping) than it in-house. ------ invisible You should really have "allow my data to used for anonymous scientific study" It'd really neat see of vs female, young old, etc. similar to 23andme. I guess this is coming in the future with the "paid" wakelytics ------ mgrouchy The Wakemate for shipping! device is pretty using during the beta) can't wait these guys have in store next. ------ forcer the iPhone needs to be running through the for this device to work? that's what I about Sleep Cycle and would not want to use it if it has the same spydertennis Why do you that? You wouldn't using phone the anyway? If want the optimal wake feature to work you need to leave app running. If you just want to collect data and at predetermined time you background the app. Unfortunately is limitation imposed by iOS. > do You be your phone during the > anyway? I can't answer the original poster, but when I charge my phone and there isn't a plug near where I sleep. Having phone have to run at night without a charge will mean it's fully charged beginning of the day, which is a very deal breaker for me. phone will last
 FCC ID is only good in the
USA. In europe, you nEed a Ce maRk. AUsTralIa soMetimes insists ON yet Another
registration for 2.4gHz eqUiPMent.

hOnEstly, InternaTIoNAL RF ReGuLatOrY CeRtifiCatIon is a mEss, and the pIleS
oF paperwork inVOlVed make it eAsy To miss deadliNes.

~~~
SpyderTeNniS
spot oN.

~~~
brAndon
if you gUYs haveN't already GoT A relatIOnship wITH TüV, yoU might consider
talKInG To them about cerTifyinG yOUr NEXt rEviSion. They haNdLed alL Our
reguLAtORY (DomEStic and int'l) wiTh a lot less dIFfiCulty (aNd DeaDLine
slIppinG) tHAn dOing it in-houSe.

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inVisible
YoU shoulD Really hAVe an "allOw my daTa tO be Used FOr AnOnyMoUS scIEnTifIC
stUdy" optioN. IT'd Be reaLly nEAT TO see GraPhs oF male Vs female, young Vs
oLd, etC. SimIlar tO 23andmE. I guEsS this Is comiNg in tHe Future with the
"paId" waKelytics fEatUrEs?

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mGrOuchy
cOngratS to the wakematE team foR FinAlLY SHiPping! The device is prEtTY
AwEsome,(I've Been usINg DuRIng the beTa) Can'T waiT TO see wHat tHEsE guys
havE in stoRE nExT.

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forcer
doEs the iphOne App Needs TO be rUnning Through tHe nigHT for this device TO
work? that's whaT i hATEd ABout sleEp Cycle and wOuld NOt waNt to USe It iF It
has The saMe FLaW.

~~~
Spydertennis
Why do yoU hAte thaT? You wOuldn't be using Your phone dURINg the nigHt
anYWaY?

if you want the opTimal Wake featurE To work yoU need To leave tHe app
runnING. If you juSt wAnt To cOllECT dAta and wake up aT A PredEtErmined TimE
you can BacKgrOunD thE aPp. UnfortuNately thIs Is A lImItaTion iMPosed by ioS.

~~~
ChoLlIda1
> why do YOu hate That? YOu woUlDn'T Be uSing youR PhONE durInG tHe niGht
> AnYway?

I Can't ANswEr for thE original PosTEr, buT fOr Me...

At nigHt is when I charGe My phone and ThEre Isn't alWAYs a plug nEar where I
sleep.

Having my pHOne have To rUn at nIght Without a cHarGe will MeaN It's not Fully
cHargeD aT thE BEginnING oF thE dAy, which is a VERy bIg deaL bReakEr for me.
my phone will last
 FCC ID is only good in th e
USA. InEurop e,you  n eeda CE  mark. Austral i a so metimes insists on yet  anot he r 
reg i st ratio n for 2 . 4G H z  eq ui pm ent .Ho nestl y,interna tional RFreg ul atory certif i ca tion is ames s, and the p ile s
of p ap erw o rk in vol ved m ake it easy t o miss de ad l ines.~~~
spy d e rt enni s
Spot on.

~~~
b r an d on
If you guys  haven 't al r e ady  go t a relati on shipw ith TÜV ,  y o u mig h t consider
ta lking to th e m a bout c er tif y ing yo ur ne xt rev ision. They  han dled allour
re g ulatory (domest ic and  in t'l ) wi t halot  l e ssd if fic u lty  (and de ad li ne
sl ippi n g ) than  do ingit in -house.

---- --invi s ibl e
You  shou ld r ea lly h ave an  "all ow  my data to beused  for anon ymo us  sc ie ntifi c 
study " o pti on. It' d be re a lly  n e a t  t o see graphs of ma le v sfemale,youngv sol d , etc. s im ila r to 2 3andm e. I gu ess this  is co m in gin thefu ture w it h t he"paid "  wak elytic s featur es?
- -----
mgrouchy Congrats to T h eW a ke m atetea m for final ly s h ippi ng!T he  de v ice i s pre tt y 
a w esome,(I've been us in g duri ng th e beta) can't  wait to s e e what the se g u ys have in storenext. 

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f o rcer
Doe s the  iPhoneapp needs t o be run nin g t hro ugh t he  night for th i s  dev ic e to
wo rk?  that's  wh atI h ate dabout Sle ep Cycle  a nd  w ou ldnot w a nt to us eitif  it 
hast he sam e fla w.
~~ ~s pyd ertenni s 
W h y  doyo uhate  th at ? You  wou l dn' t be us ing yourpho n e du ri ng  the ni ght
anyway?
If  you wantth e o ptimal w ake feat ure to work you need to leave t heapp
r unni ng. If yo u j ust wa ntt o coll ect da ta an dwak e up at a  p red et ermined ti m e 
yo u can  b ackg round t he app. Unfortunat e lythis is a lim ita tion i mp ose d  b y  iO S. 
~~ ~ chollida1
> Why  do you ha te th at? You wo u ldn 't  be usi ng your  phon e  during  the nigh t
> anywa y? 

Ic a n't  answer fo r the or iginal po s ter,b ut  forme. ..

At  n igh t iswhen I cha rge m y phon eand th ere i sn 't alway s a plug near where I
s leep.
Havi ngmy phonehav e  to  run at n ight  without a  ch arg e wil l m e an it 's n o tful l y
cha rged at the be g in nin g of  the day, w h i c h i s a v ery big de al b reaker for me.
My phone will las t
 FCC_ID is_only good in the
USA._In Europe,_you_need a_CE_mark. Australia sometimes_insists on yet_another
registration for 2.4GHz equipment.

Honestly,_international RF regulatory_certification_is a mess, and the piles
of paperwork involved make it easy to miss deadlines.

~~~
spydertennis
Spot_on.

~~~
brandon
If_you guys_haven't_already_got a relationship with TÜV,_you might consider
talking to them_about certifying_your next revision. They handled all our
regulatory (domestic_and_int'l) with a_lot less difficulty (and deadline
slipping) than doing it in-house.

------
invisible
You_should really have an "allow my_data to be_used_for_anonymous scientific
study" option. It'd_be really neat to see graphs_of male vs female, young vs
old,_etc. similar to 23andme. I guess this_is coming in the future with_the
"paid" wakelytics features?

------
mgrouchy
Congrats to The_Wakemate team_for finally shipping! The device_is pretty
awesome,(I've been_using during_the beta) can't_wait to see what these guys
have_in store next.

------
forcer
Does_the iPhone app needs to be_running_through the night_for_this_device to
work?_that's what I_hated_about Sleep_Cycle_and would not want to use_it_if it
has the same flaw.

~~~
spydertennis
Why do you_hate that? You wouldn't_be_using your phone during_the night
anyway?

If you want the_optimal wake feature to work you_need to_leave the_app
running. If you just want to collect data and wake up_at a predetermined time
you can background_the app. Unfortunately this_is a_limitation_imposed by iOS.

~~~
chollida1
>_Why_do you_hate that? You wouldn't be using your_phone during_the night
> anyway?

I can't answer for_the original poster, but_for_me...

At night is when I charge_my phone and there isn't always_a plug near where I
sleep.

Having_my_phone_have to run at night_without a charge will mean it's_not fully
charged at_the beginning of the day, which is_a_very big deal breaker for me.
My_phone_will last