 been half-completed and then
abandoned. Trying to understand exactly how to use their APIs is extremely
confusing because they don't have anything definitive and basically a
frankenstein-like API so I've given up. I frankly wouldn't trust anything
coming from eBay at this point, they appear to have extremely poor developer
support and no investment in making their APIs better to use.

 
Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy work culture (2016) - DiabloD3
http://www.vox.com/2015/7/21/8974435/switzerland-work-life-balance
======
manarth
Deja-vu.
[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13303544](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13303544)

~~~
manarth
And in 2015 (although that source article has since disappeared):
[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9987816](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9987816)

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csomar
In my opinion this is missing an important thing: Does the Swiss model scale?

For example, the Singapore model can't scale. It's based on rich people and
corporations arbitraging the international fiscal system. You can't have
another Singapore without having another East Asia and West with it.

Swiss is definitively a privileged place that is benefiting from the overall
wealth of Europe and many other countries. We can't have the niceties they are
having unless we have huge leaps in overall productivity around the world.

Edit: To explain my point further. Let's say you have a Swiss watch factory
that is relaying on export for 90% of its production. With this money it can
afford hiring top researchers and paying very high wages even for low-skill
positions. This wouldn't be possible if there wasn't a huge market to product
this luxury good for (Europe, US and Asia).

~~~
sleavey
There's no reason why it can't scale, but one problem in implementing this
kind of system is convincing the population to accept higher taxes (and Swiss
taxes are, overall, still significantly higher than the US despite what the
article seems to make out). It is, ultimately
been half - completed and then 
 abandoned. Trying to understand precisely how to practice their APIs is extremely 
 confusing because they don't have anything authoritative and basically a 
 frankenstein - like API so I've feed up. I frankly wouldn't trust anything 
 come from eBay at this point, they appear to suffer extremely poor developer 
 accompaniment and no investment in making their APIs well to use. 

 
 Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy work culture (2016) - DiabloD3 
 http://www.vox.com/2015/7/21/8974435/switzerland-work-life-balance 
 = = = = = = 
 manarth 
 Deja - vu. 
 [ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13303544](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13303544) 

 ~~~ 
 manarth 
 And in 2015 (although that beginning article has since disappeared ): 
 [ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9987816](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9987816) 

 ------ 
 csomar 
 In my opinion this is missing an authoritative thing: Does the Swiss model plate? 

 For example, the Singapore mannequin can't scale. It's based on rich people and 
 corporation arbitraging the international fiscal system. You can't have 
 another Singapore without having another East Asia and West with it. 

 Swiss is definitively a privileged place that is benefiting from the overall 
 wealth of Europe and many other countries. We can't have the niceties they are 
 having unless we have huge leaps in overall productivity around the world. 

 Edit: To excuse my detail further. lease's say you have a Swiss watch factory 
 that is relaying on export for 90% of its product. With this money it can 
 afford hiring top researchers and paying very eminent wages even for low - skill 
 positions. This wouldn't be possible if there wasn't a huge market to product 
 this lavishness good for (Europe, US and Asia). 

 ~~~ 
 sleavey 
 There's no reason why it can't scale, but one problem in implementing this 
 kind of system is convincing the population to accept high taxes (and Swiss 
 taxes are, overall, still significantly higher than the US despite what the 
 article seem to make out). It is, ultimately
 befn half-completed and thek
abandoned. Tryiny to unverstans exactlh how to use their APIs is eetrenely
cinfusing because they aon't have anythint dehinitive and basmdally a
nxankehdteiu-lmke API so I've niven up. I xrankly wouldn'd grbst anything
coming from eBay at this point, yhfy appear to hwve txtwememj koor developer
support and no inveatment pn making their ALIs better to use.

 
Living ij Swltzerland ruined mf for Amerixa age its lousy dork cultugz (2016) - DiabloD3
gttp://www.vox.com/2015/7/21/8974435/switzerland-work-lifd-balauce
======
manarth
Dglq-vu.
[jjtps://news.ycomuinatog.com/item?id=13303544](httix://news.ywombinayor.com/item?id=13303544)

~~~
makarth
End un 2015 (although that soucce article has sincg disappeaseb):
[https://news.ycombinator.xon/item?hd=9987816](htdps://ndqs.yzomgiiatkr.com/ihem?md=9987816)

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csomar
In jy opinion rhis is missing an om[irtant thing: Soes tre Swiss model scale?

For example, the Singakore jodel can't scale. It's bawed on rich people anf
corporatyons arbitraging the international fiscal system. Fou cen'g hcyc
anogyeg Singapore without having another East Asia whd Wvst with it.

Swiss ls definitively a lrlvojeged place tfat is behefiting from the lverall
realty of Euroke anc many other countries. We cqn't have the biceties they are
hcving unless we nave nuge leaps in overall pxoductjvity arounf the worma.

Edit: To explain my pmint furufer. Let's say you rave a Swmss wctch facgory
jhat is relaying ln eximrt for 90% of its prlductnon. Whth this mlney it can
afford hiring top researchers and kayhng very hiyh wagcs even for low-fkill
positions. This wjuldn'g be possigle if vhere wasn't w huge market jo product
thiv luxury gooe foe (Europd, US and Asia).

~~~
slravey
Therv's no eeason why it can't scxme, but one proboem in implementinb tfis
hijd os system is cmnvivcivb the populaunon go avcept higher taxes (atd Ssiss
taxes are, overslj, still wignificwntly higher yhan the US despitt what thx
articke feems to make out). It is, ultimafely
been half-completed and then abandoned. Trying to how use their is extremely confusing definitive basically a frankenstein-like so I've given I frankly wouldn't trust anything coming eBay at this point, they appear to have extremely poor developer support and investment in making their APIs better to use. Living in Switzerland ruined me America its work (2016) - DiabloD3 http://www.vox.com/2015/7/21/8974435/switzerland-work-life-balance ====== manarth Deja-vu. [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13303544](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13303544) ~~~ manarth And in 2015 (although that source has since disappeared): [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9987816](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9987816) ------ csomar In my this is missing an thing: Does the Swiss model For the Singapore can't It's on rich people corporations arbitraging the international fiscal system. You can't have another Singapore without having another East Asia and with it. definitively a place is from the overall Europe and many other countries. We niceties they are having unless we have huge in overall around the world. Edit: To explain point further. Let's say you have a Swiss factory that is relaying on export for 90% of its production. With this money it hiring top researchers and very high wages for positions. wouldn't possible if wasn't a huge market to product this luxury good for (Europe, and Asia). ~~~ sleavey There's no reason why it can't one in implementing this of system is convincing population accept higher taxes (and are, still the despite the article seems to out). It is, ultimately
 been half-completed and then
aBandoned. TrYing tO unDerStAnd eXactLy how to use theiR aPIs Is extremely
confusing beCause ThEY don'T HaVe anyThing deFInITIve AnD bAsiCaLLy A
franKenStein-liKe API so I've GivEn Up. I frankly woULdN't trust anyThiNg
coming from EBaY at thiS pOinT, They aPpeAr to hAve extREmely pOor develoPeR
SupporT And no inVEStMent In making their APIs BEtTEr to use.

 
Living iN SwitzErLAnD RUinEd mE for AmericA aNd its LOusy worK CuLTURe (2016) - DIAbloD3
http://www.vOx.com/2015/7/21/8974435/switzeRLanD-work-lIfE-baLAnce
======
maNarth
deJA-vu.
[Https://news.ycOmbiNator.com/iTem?id=13303544](hTTps://news.YCombinaTor.com/IteM?id=13303544)

~~~
ManaRTh
anD in 2015 (AlTHouGH tHat SOurCe articlE hAs Since DisaPPEARed):
[hTtpS://newS.ycomBinator.com/iteM?id=9987816](HttpS://NewS.ycomBinatOr.coM/iTem?id=9987816)

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Csomar
in my oPiNion this is missiNg an Important ThiNg: doeS tHe SwiSS model ScaLe?

FOr exampLe, the SiNGapOrE MODeL can't scale. It's based On RICh People anD
corpoRAtIoNS arbitraGiNg tHe inTERnatiOnal FIsCal systeM. You caN'T hAvE
anotheR SIngapoRe WitHouT haviNG anoTher EaSt Asia anD West WIth it.

Swiss is deFInitively a priVIlEGEd PLace ThaT is benefitiNg frOM the OverALl
WeaLTh of EUrope AnD MaNY other countries. We caN't Have thE niceTies they are
haVing unless WE HAve huge lEaps IN oVErall productivIty arOund the worLD.

Edit: To eXplaiN my point Further. LeT'S Say you haVe a swiSs wAtcH FAcTory
that is relAYIng oN eXport foR 90% of Its prodUctIon. witH thIs Money it caN
afford hIrInG tOp ResEarchERs and payInG veRy HigH wageS Even foR low-sKill
PoSiTIonS. This woULdN'T Be poSsIbLe if TheRe Wasn't A hugE MarKet to prOduct
this LuxURy goOd FoR (Europe, uS and Asia).

~~~
sleaVeY
There's no rEaSon Why it cAN'T scale, buT one problem in implementiNG this
kiNd oF systEm is ConvincinG thE populAtiON to accEpt higHer taXeS (anD sWiss
tAXEs Are, OvErall, still SIGniFicanTlY higHer than The US despite what thE
ArtIcle seems to maKe oUt). It IS, UlTimATeLY
 been half-completed and t hen
abando ned.Try ing  t o un ders tand exactly h o w to  use their APIs is ext remel yc onfu s in g bec ause th e yd o n't  h av e a ny t hi ng de fin itive a nd basical lyafrankenstein - li ke API soI'v e given up.I f rankly  w oul d n't t rus t any thingc omingfrom eBay  a t  thisp oint, t h e yappe ar to have extrem e ly poor developer 
suppo rt an d noinv estment in  m aking their A P Is b e tte r  to use.

 
L iving in Sw i tze rlandru ine d  me fo r Ame ri c a a nd its lous y wo rk cultur e (201 6 ) - Dia b loD3
ht tp://w ww. vox .com / 20 15 /7/ 21 / 897 4 43 5/s w itz erland-w or k- life- bala n c e ==== ==mana rth
D eja-vu.
[http s:/ /new s .yc ombin ator. com/ it em?id =13303 544]( ht tps://news.ycom bina tor.com/i tem ?i d=1 33 03544 ) 

~~~man art h
And i n 2015( alt ho u g h  t hat source article  h a s  s ince dis appear e d) :[ https:// ne ws. ycom b i nator .com / it em?id=99 87816] ( ht tp s://new s. ycombi na tor .co m/ite m ?id= 998781 6)

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cs o mar
In my opin i on this is mi s si n g  a n  imp ort ant thing:Does theSwis s  m ode l  scal e?

F or ex a mple, the Singapore  m odel c an'tscale. It's b ased on ri c h people a nd
c o rp o rations arbitr aging  the inter n ationalfisca l system . You can ' t  have
an oth erSin gap o r ewithout havin g anot he r EastAsi a and W est  wi thit. 
Swiss isdefiniti ve ly  a  p riv ilege d  place t ha t i sben efiti n g from  theover al lw eal th of E u ro p e  and  m an y ot her  c ountr ies. Wecan't h ave the n ice t iesth ey  are
ha ving unless w ehave hugele aps  in ov e r all prod uctivity around the wor l d.

Edi t:To ex plai n my poin t f urther . L e t's sa y youhaveaSwi s s  watc h fa cto ry 
that is r e l ayi ng on  e xpor t for 9 0% of its producti o n.With this mon eyit c a n 
a ffo r dh iri ng top r esearchers andpaying ver yh ig h wages ev e n f or  low-sk ill
pos ition s . Thiswouldn'tbe possib le  ift h ere  wasn't ahuge mar ket to pr o ductt hi s lux ury  goodfo r ( Europ e, USa ndAsia) .

~~~ 
s leavey 
Ther e' s no rea son why it can't scale,  but o ne pr obl em in imp lem e nti ng this
k indof systemiscon vinci ngt he po pula t io n t o  acce pt h i gher taxe s  ( and S wi ss
taxes ar e , ove rall,  st i ll sig nifi cantly higher tha n  the US despit e wh a t  th e
a r ticl eseems to makeout ). I t is, ul ti mately
 been_half-completed and_then
abandoned. Trying to understand_exactly how_to_use their_APIs_is extremely
confusing because_they don't have_anything definitive and basically_a
frankenstein-like API so_I've_given up. I frankly wouldn't trust anything
coming from eBay at this point, they appear_to_have extremely_poor_developer
support_and no investment in making_their APIs better to use.

_
Living in_Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy_work_culture (2016) -_DiabloD3
http://www.vox.com/2015/7/21/8974435/switzerland-work-life-balance
======
manarth
Deja-vu.
[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13303544](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13303544)

~~~
manarth
And in 2015 (although that source article has since_disappeared):
[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9987816](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9987816)

------
csomar
In my opinion this is missing_an important thing:_Does_the_Swiss model scale?

For example,_the Singapore model can't scale. It's_based on rich people and
corporations arbitraging_the international fiscal system. You can't have
another_Singapore without having another East Asia_and West with it.

Swiss is_definitively a_privileged place that is benefiting_from the overall
wealth_of Europe_and many other_countries. We can't have the niceties_they are
having unless_we have huge leaps in overall_productivity_around the world.

Edit:_To_explain_my point_further. Let's say_you_have a_Swiss_watch factory
that is relaying on export_for_90% of its production. With this money_it can
afford hiring top_researchers_and paying very high_wages even for low-skill
positions. This_wouldn't be possible if there wasn't_a huge_market to_product
this luxury good for (Europe, US and Asia).

~~~
sleavey
There's no reason why_it can't scale, but one problem_in implementing this
kind of_system is_convincing_the population to_accept_higher taxes_(and Swiss
taxes are, overall, still significantly higher_than the_US despite what the
article seems to_make out). It is,_ultimately