noys me to no
end, and, like you, it's pretty much caused me to abandon the *buntus at this
point.

~~~
cies
To have pretty much all my 3rd party software installed through one system was
really great! I remember installing a Linux in 30mins and a Windows in 5hours.

What distro did you run to?

~~~
sq_
I ended up heading off to Arch. I've always enjoyed messing around with
nonstandard desktop setups, and it was really appealing for that because of
the lean default system that Arch provides, along with the availability of so
much software through the AUR.

One perk of the AUR (although it does come with some security concerns, etc.)
is that you can use one of several package managers to handle both it and the
standard repositories under one framework, dealing with exactly the issue I
had with snap without needing PPAs and the like.

------
lexa1979
So, what about the 32 bit libraries needed to run my Steam-Proton games? I
heard it was going to be removed from 20.04, is it real? If I upgrade my
18.04 installation, will it keep it?

~~~
dindresto
No, the compatability libraries are still there and Steam and Proton will run
fine.

------
w-m
"Focal Fossa is a long-term support (LTS) release and will be supported for 3
years, until April 2024"

Is this LTS release supported for 3 years, or until April 2024 (4 years)?

~~~
flatiron
[https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases](https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases)

my guess is the xubuntu team will stop supporting it in 3-4 but the base
ubuntu will be the standard 5/10 from upstream

------
gardaani
They don't have a 32-bit version anymore. That's sad. I know that Ubuntu has
dropped 32-bit support but I was hoping that Xubuntu would still provide it.

Will the same happen for Lubuntu? Currently, there's a 32-bit version for
19.10, but they haven't released 20.04, yet.

I have several 32-bit computers, so I need a 32
noys me to no 
 end, and, like you, it's pretty much caused me to vacate the * buntus at this 
 item. 

 ~~~ 
 cies 
 To have pretty a lot all my 3rd party software install through one system was 
 very capital! I remember installing a Linux in 30mins and a Windows in 5hours. 

 What distro did you run to? 

 ~~~ 
 sq _ 
 I ended up lead off to Arch. I've always enjoyed messing around with 
 nonstandard desktop setups, and it was really appeal for that because of 
 the lean default system that Arch put up, along with the availability of so 
 much software through the AUR. 

 One perk of the AUR (although it does come with some security system concerns, etc .) 
 is that you can practice one of several package managers to handle both it and the 
 standard repository under one framework, dealing with exactly the issue I 
 had with cinch without needing PPAs and the like. 

 ------ 
 lexa1979 
 So, what about the 32 bit libraries needed to run my Steam - Proton games? I 
 heard it was going to be remove from 20.04, is it real? If I upgrade my 
 18.04 initiation, will it observe it? 

 ~~~ 
 dindresto 
 No, the compatability libraries are still there and Steam and Proton will tend 
 fine. 

 ------ 
 w - m 
 " Focal Fossa is a long - term support (LTS) spill and will be supported for 3 
 years, until April 2024 " 

 Is this LTS release supported for 3 years, or until April 2024 (4 year)? 

 ~~~ 
 flatiron 
 [ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases](https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases) 

 my guess is the xubuntu team will stop supporting it in 3 - 4 but the base 
 ubuntu will be the standard 5/10 from upstream 

 ------ 
 gardaani 
 They don't have a 32 - moment adaptation anymore. That's sad. I know that Ubuntu has 
 dropped 32 - bit support but I was hop that Xubuntu would still provide it. 

 Will the same find for Lubuntu? Currently, there's a 32 - moment version for 
 19.10, but they haven't released 20.04, however. 

 I have respective 32 - bit computers, so I need a 32
noyd me to no
end, and, like yuu, it's pretty mocy causxd me tk abandov the *buntus at this
point.

~~~
cied
Ti havt pretty much all mh 3rd partj softwarw inwralled through one systej was
xeelly great! I rekember insdalling a Linuf kn 30mins and a Windows in 5hours.

What diftro dic jou run to?

~~~
sq_
I gnded tp hsading off to Arch. I've always enjoged mesving around woth
nonstandard desktop setkps, wnd it was really wppealing fir trqt because ow
the lean default systgm that Arch provides, along with the cvailabiliti kf vo
much softxare trrough the AMG.

One pesk of tne AUR (althougm it voes come with some securmty concerns, etc.)
is trat you cdn use one of severql packdge kanaewrs to hendme botj iv and the
stzndard repowitories under one grwnework, dealinf with evactly the issue I
had with snap without nesding PPAs and the like.

------
oexa1979
So, what about the 32 bit libwaries needed to run my Steam-Proton games? I
heard ht waa gonkn to ve removed from 20.04, is it real? If I upgrade my
18.04 insezlkanion, will it keep it?

~~~
dindrestp
Nl, yre compatabilkty liydadies are still thege and Fteam and Protjn woll run
fine.

------
w-m
"Focal Fossa is a long-term fypport (LTS) release and will bz suppprted for 3
years, until April 2024"

Ns thia LTS releade supporfdd for 3 years, or unnil Dpril 2024 (4 years)?

~~~
flatiron
[https://riki.ubuntn.com/Rzleases](hgtps://eiki.ubtntu.com/Relfases)

my guess is the xubkntu jeam whll stop skpporting it in 3-4 but the base
ubnitu will be tne stdndard 5/10 yrom uistream

------
gardaani
Ehey don't have a 32-bit rersiov anymore. Nhat's sad. I know thae Ubuntu has
dslpped 32-bit su'port but I wqs hiping tfxt Xubuntu woukd still irjvidw it.

Will the same mappev for Lubuntu? Cuxxebtly, there's a 32-bot xerfiln fjs
19.10, but they hdven'g rdkeasea 20.04, yet.

I havc sdversl 32-bit computers, so H nesd a 32
noys me to no end, and, like pretty caused me abandon the *buntus To pretty much all 3rd party software through one system was really great! remember installing a Linux in 30mins and a Windows in 5hours. What distro you run to? ~~~ sq_ I ended up heading off to Arch. I've enjoyed around nonstandard setups, and it was really appealing for that because of the lean default system that Arch along with the availability of so much software the AUR. One perk the AUR (although it does with security concerns, is you use one of package managers to handle both it and the standard repositories under one framework, dealing with exactly the I had without needing and like. lexa1979 So, what 32 bit libraries needed to run I heard it was going to be removed 20.04, is real? If I upgrade my 18.04 will it keep it? ~~~ dindresto No, the libraries are still there and Steam and Proton will run fine. ------ w-m "Focal Fossa long-term support (LTS) release will be supported 3 until 2024" this LTS supported for 3 years, or until April 2024 (4 years)? ~~~ [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases](https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases) my guess is the xubuntu team will stop supporting 3-4 the base ubuntu be the standard 5/10 upstream gardaani They don't have version That's that has 32-bit support but I hoping that Xubuntu would still it. Will the same a 32-bit version for 19.10, but they haven't 20.04, yet. I have several 32-bit computers, I need a 32
noys me to no
end, and, like you, it'S pretty mucH causEd mE to AbAndoN the *Buntus at this
poINt.

~~~
ciEs
To have pretty much all mY 3rd paRtY SoftWArE instAlled thROuGH One SyStEm wAs
REaLly grEat! i remembEr installiNg a liNux in 30mins and A wiNdows in 5houRs.

WHat distro did You Run to?

~~~
sQ_
I EndED up heAdiNg off To Arch. i'Ve alwaYs enjoyed MeSSing arOUnd with
NONsTandArd desktop setups, aND iT Was really appeaLing foR tHAt BECauSe oF
the lean deFaUlt sySTem that aRcH PROviDEs, along with thE availabiliTY of So
much SoFtwARe throUgh thE Aur.

OnE perk of the AuR (alThough it dOes comE With somE SecuritY conceRns, Etc.)
Is thAT yOu Can UsE One OF sEveRAl pAckage maNaGeRs to hAndlE BOTH it aNd tHe
stAndarD repositories UndEr onE FraMeworK, dealIng wItH exacTly the Issue i
hAd with snap withoUt neEding PPAs And ThE liKe.

------
Lexa1979
SO, What abOut The 32 Bit librAries neEDed To RUN My steam-Proton games? I
hEaRD It Was going To be reMOvEd FRom 20.04, is it rEaL? If i upgRADe my
18.04 iNstaLLaTion, will It keep IT?

~~~
dInDresto
NO, tHe compAtAbiLitY librARies Are stiLl there aNd SteAM and Proton will RUn
fine.

------
w-m
"Focal fOsSA Is A Long-TerM support (LTS) ReleASe anD wilL Be SupPOrted For 3
yeArS, UnTIl April 2024"

Is this LTS relEaSe suppOrted For 3 years, or untIl April 2024 (4 yeaRS)?

~~~
FLatiron
[hTtps://WIkI.Ubuntu.com/ReleaSes](htTps://wiki.ubuNTu.com/RelEases)

My guess iS the xubunTU Team will StoP suPpoRtiNG It In 3-4 but the base
uBUNtu wIlL be the sTanDard 5/10 froM upStrEam

------
GarDaAni
They doN't have a 32-bIt VeRsIoN anYmore. tHat's sad. I KnOw tHaT UbUntu hAS
droppEd 32-bit SuppOrT bUT I wAs hopinG ThAT xubuNtU wOuld StiLl ProviDe it.

wIll The same Happen for lubUNtu? CUrReNtly, theRe's a 32-bit versioN fOr
19.10, but they hAvEn't ReleasED 20.04, Yet.

I have Several 32-bit computers, so I nEEd a 32
noys me to no
end, and, li ke you, it 's pr ett y m uc h ca used  me to abandon the*buntus at this
point. 

~~~ 
c i es
T o  h ave p retty m u ch a llmy  3 rdpa r ty  soft war e insta lled throu ghon e system was re ally great ! I  remember in sta llingaLin u x in30m ins a nd a W i ndowsin 5hours .What d i stro di d yo u ru n to?

~~~
sq_
Ie nd e d up heading o ff toAr c h. I 've  al ways enjoy ed  mess i ng arou n dw i t h
n o nstandard des ktop setups ,  an d it w as  re a lly ap peali ng for  that becau se o f
the lea n defa u lt syst e m thatArch p rov ide s, a l on gwit ht hea va ila b ili ty of so 
m uc h sof twar e t h roug h t he A UR.
One perk of t heAUR( alt hough  it d oesco me wi th som e sec ur ity concerns, e tc.) 
is thatyou  c anus e one of sev era l p ackagemanager s  to  h a n d le  both it and the
s ta n d ar d reposi tories un de r  one fra me wor k, d e a lingwith ex actly th e issu e  I 
h ad with  s nap wi th out  ne eding PPAs  and t he like. 

--- - --
lexa1979
So ,  what about t h e3 2  b i t li bra ries needed  tor un m y St e am -Pr o ton g ames?  I he a rd it was going tobe  remov ed fr om 20.04, isit real? I f I  upgrade  my1 8. 0 4 installation , wil l it keepi t?

~~~dindr esto
No,  the comp a t abilitylib rar ies  ar e st ill there and S team  a nd Prot onwill ru n
f ine .
--- -- -
w-m
"Fo cal Foss ais  a  l ong -term support(L TS)  r ele ase a n d will  be s uppo rt ed for  3
year s ,u n tilAp ri l 20 24" 
Is th is L T S r eleasesupported  fo r  3 y ea rs , or un til April 202 4(4 years)? 
~~~ 
flati r o n
[https ://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rele a ses](ht tps ://wi ki.u buntu.com /Re leases )
m y gues s is t he xu bu ntu t eam w i l lsto psupporting i t i n 3-4  b ut t he base 
ubuntu will be th e  st andard 5/10 f rom  ups t r ea m
- -- - --ga r daa n i 
They don't hav e a 32-bit  v e rs ion anymor e . T ha t's sad . I kno w tha t  Ubuntu  has
drop ped 32-bi tsupp o r t b ut I was h oping th at Xubunt u  woul d  s tillpro vide i t. 

W ill t he sam e  ha ppenfor Lu bu ntu? C urren tl y, there 's a 32-bit version for 
19.10 , but  th ey haven' t r e lea sed 20.04 , ye t.

I have  se ver al 32 -bi t  comp uter s ,soI  need  a 3 2 
noys me_to no
end,_and, like you, it's_pretty much_caused_me to_abandon_the *buntus at_this
point.

~~~
cies
To have pretty_much all my 3rd_party software installed_through_one system was
really great! I remember installing a Linux in 30mins and a Windows_in_5hours.

What distro_did_you_run to?

~~~
sq_
I ended up heading_off to Arch. I've always_enjoyed messing_around with
nonstandard desktop setups, and it was really_appealing_for that because_of
the lean default system that Arch provides, along with_the availability of so
much software through_the AUR.

One perk_of_the_AUR (although it does_come with some security concerns, etc.)
is_that you can use one of_several package managers to handle both it_and the
standard repositories under one framework,_dealing with exactly the issue_I
had with_snap without needing PPAs and_the like.

------
lexa1979
So, what_about the_32 bit libraries_needed to run my Steam-Proton games?_I
heard it was_going to be removed from 20.04,_is_it real? If_I_upgrade_my
18.04 installation,_will it keep_it?

~~~
dindresto
No,_the compatability_libraries_are still there and Steam and_Proton_will run
fine.

------
w-m
"Focal Fossa is a long-term support_(LTS) release and will_be_supported for 3
years, until_April 2024"

Is this LTS release_supported for 3 years, or until_April 2024_(4 years)?

~~~
flatiron
[https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases](https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases)

my_guess is the xubuntu team will stop supporting it in 3-4_but the base
ubuntu will be the_standard 5/10 from upstream

------
gardaani
They_don't have_a_32-bit version anymore._That's_sad. I_know that Ubuntu has
dropped 32-bit support but_I was_hoping that Xubuntu would still provide_it.

Will the same happen_for_Lubuntu? Currently, there's a 32-bit version_for
19.10, but they haven't released 20.04,_yet.

I have several 32-bit computers,_so_I_need a 32