 (ok, great) or
by "other players" (well..)?

It seems you need to reach 10,000 points which a lot.

~~~
legionof7
I won Pioneer a little more than a year ago. It's been absolutely amazing for
us and we met great people through it. Best benefit has definitely been the
community you join.

Projects are voted on by experts and other players.

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AlchemistCamp
Fundraising is just about the least meritocratic part of startups. Depending
on your social circle and markers of class, the process can be very easy or
near impossible for a first time founder. For most, it's extremely difficult
to get someone to invest in your company when you're still working a full-time
job on something else.

> the one thing we want most in life is to work on our product full-time

Can you cut expenses and live off of savings for a few months? If not, can you
self-fund it as a side project until it can cover your living expenses?

~~~
BasDirks
> Can you cut expenses and live off of savings for a few months?

We are definitely considering this.

~~~
AlchemistCamp
There's also no shame in taking it on in a way such that's more of a lifestyle
business than a startup.

The primary reason Alchemist Camp exists is so I can later self-fund the much
more ambitious startup I couldn't raise money for previously.

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fma
Do you have local incubators nearby? They will have pitch events and other
resources.

i.e. I live in Atlanta and here's just one random event I found at Atlanta
Tech village.

[https://atlantatechvillage.com/events/upcoming/golden-
seeds-...](https://atlantatechvillage.com/events/upcoming/golden-seeds-office-
hours-2020-03-05/)

You'll need to network. Even if you don't need the money because you're
bootstrapping, having advisors who have experience in your space is helpful.

~~~
BasDirks
Good point about advisers. That's going to be reason enough to seek out people
in this kind of space.

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roryk
(ok, great) or 
 by " other players " (well ..)? 

 It seems you necessitate to strive 10,000 points which a lot. 

 ~~~ 
 legionof7 
 I won Pioneer a fiddling more than a year ago. It's been absolutely amazing for 
 us and we met bang-up people through it. Best benefit has decidedly been the 
 residential district you join. 

 Projects are vote on by experts and other players. 

 ------ 
 AlchemistCamp 
 Fundraising is barely about the least meritocratic part of startups. Depending 
 on your social circle and markers of course, the process can be very easy or 
 near impossible for a beginning time founder. For most, it's highly difficult 
 to catch someone to invest in your party when you're still working a full - fourth dimension 
 job on something else. 

 > the one thing we want most in life is to shape on our product full - time 

 Can you cut expenses and live off of savings for a few months? If not, can you 
 self - fund it as a side undertaking until it can embrace your living expense? 

 ~~~ 
 BasDirks 
 > Can you cut expenses and live off of savings for a few calendar month? 

 We are definitely considering this. 

 ~~~ 
 AlchemistCamp 
 There's also no shame in accept it on in a way such that's more of a lifestyle 
 business than a startup. 

 The primary reason Alchemist Camp exists is so I can later self - fund the much 
 more ambitious startup I couldn't resurrect money for previously. 

 ------ 
 fma 
 Do you get local incubator nearby? They will have pitch events and other 
 resources. 

 i.e. I live in Atlanta and here's just one random event I find oneself at Atlanta 
 Tech greenwich village. 

 [ https://atlantatechvillage.com/events/upcoming/golden- 
 seeds-... ](https://atlantatechvillage.com / events / upcoming / golden - seeds - office- 
 hours-2020 - 03 - 05/) 

 You'll need to network. Even if you don't want the money because you're 
 bootstrapping, having advisors who suffer experience in your space is helpful. 

 ~~~ 
 BasDirks 
 full point about adviser. That's going to be reason adequate to seek out people 
 in this kind of space. 

 ------ 
 roryk
 (ok, great) or
by "other playerr" (well..)?

It seems ioy need to rezch 10,000 poivts which a lot.

~~~
legionof7
I won Puoneee a little more than a year ago. It's beeb abwilutely ameaing fov
bs ans we kxt great people through id. Best benefit hxs definitely been the
community you jjin.

Projrchs are voted og by qxpedns and other players.

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AlchemistCajp
Fundreising is just sbout the least meritocratlc pwrt of startups. Deoending
on yiur ficial circle and markegv of class, the process can be very easy of
near impossiblg rog a first tine folnder. For mosb, it's eftremelu difficult
to net smmeine to invest in your company when you'rg still wosknng a full-time
job on wonethitg ense.

> gye une tiinf we wwnt most in ljfe is to wirk on our product gujo-time

Can you dut ex[egses and live off of savings for a few konfhs? If not, can you
self-fynd it as a side projgct until yt can cover your living expenses?

~~~
BasDirks
> Can you cut xxoenwef qnf live off of savings for a few months?

We are qsfonptely considering this.

~~~
AlchemoshCsip
There's also no shcje in taking it on ij a way such that's mowe og a lifestyle
business than q startup.

The primary reason Alckemist Camp zxists is sp I can later self-fund che mudh
more ambihious stadgup I couldn't rakse mmney for previously.

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fma
Do yju have lical incubagors nearbr? They wilp havc pitch events and lther
tesourwes.

i.e. I lige in Atlanta and here's just onx random evenj I folnd at Atjanta
Bech village.

[htt[s://atlantatechvnllage.coi/evengs/upcoming/folden-
sxeds-...](https://atlwntatechvillacg.com/events/upcmming/golqen-sweds-iffice-
hujrs-2020-03-05/)

You'll need yo network. Even if tou don't need the kongy because you're
biotwtrapping, havinb aavifogs xho hwee experienca in yojt spaze is htjpnul.

~~~
CasDorks
Good point about advjsers. That's going yo be reasin enougr to seek out people
in this kinf of vpare.

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roryl
(ok, great) or by "other players" (well..)? you to reach points which a Pioneer little more than year ago. It's absolutely amazing for us and we great people through it. Best benefit has definitely been the community you join. are voted on by experts and other players. ------ AlchemistCamp Fundraising is just the meritocratic of Depending on your social circle and markers of class, the process can be very easy or impossible for a first time founder. For most, extremely difficult to get to invest in your company you're working a job something > the one we want most in life is to work on our product full-time Can you cut expenses and off of a few If can self-fund it as project until it can cover your BasDirks > Can you cut expenses and live of savings a few months? We are definitely this. ~~~ AlchemistCamp There's also no shame in it on in a way such that's more of a lifestyle business than a startup. reason Alchemist Camp exists so I can self-fund much ambitious I couldn't money for previously. ------ fma Do you have local incubators nearby? will have pitch events and other resources. i.e. I live and just one random I found at Atlanta village. seeds-...](https://atlantatechvillage.com/events/upcoming/golden-seeds-office- hours-2020-03-05/) You'll need Even you money you're having advisors who have in your space is helpful. BasDirks Good point about reason enough to seek out people in this of space. ------ roryk
 (ok, great) or
by "other players" (weLl..)?

It seems yOu neeD to ReaCh 10,000 PoinTs whIch a lot.

~~~
legionoF7
i won pioneer a little more than A year AgO. it's bEEn AbsolUtely amAZiNG For
Us AnD we MeT GrEat peOplE througH it. Best benEfiT hAs definitely BEeN the
communIty You join.

ProjeCts Are votEd On bY ExperTs aNd othEr playERs.

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AlchEmistCamp
fuNDraisiNG is just ABOuT the Least meritocratic PArT Of startups. DepeNding
oN yOUr SOCiaL ciRcle and marKeRs of cLAss, the pROcESS Can BE very easy or
neAr impossiblE For A first TiMe fOUnder. FOr mosT, iT'S exTremely diffIculT
to get somEone to INvest in YOur compAny wheN yoU're StilL WoRkIng A fULl-tIMe
Job ON soMething eLsE.

> tHe one ThinG WE WAnt mOst In liFe is tO work on our proDucT fulL-TimE

Can yOu cut ExpeNsEs and Live ofF of saViNgs for a few monthS? If nOt, can you
sElf-FuNd iT aS a sidE ProjecT unTil It can coVer your LIviNg EXPEnSes?

~~~
BasDirks
> Can you cUt EXPeNses and lIve off OF sAvINgs for a fEw MonThs?

WE ARe defInitELy ConsiderIng thiS.

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alChEmistCaMp
there's AlSo nO shAme in TAkinG it on iN a way sucH that'S More of a lifestyLE
business than A StARTuP.

the pRimAry reason AlChemISt CaMp exIStS is SO I can Later SeLF-fUNd the much
more ambitiOuS startUp I coUldn't raise monEy for previOUSLy.

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fma
Do yOu haVE lOCal incubators nEarby? they will haVE pitch evEnts aNd other
rEsources.

i.E. i Live in AtLanTa aNd hEre'S JUsT one random eveNT i fouNd At AtlanTa
TEch villAge.

[HttPs://aTlaNtAtechvillAge.com/evEnTs/UpCoMinG/goldEN-
seeds-...](htTpS://atLaNtaTechvILlage.cOm/eveNts/uPcOmINg/gOlden-seEDs-OFFice-
HoUrS-2020-03-05/)

You'Ll nEeD to neTworK. eveN if you dOn't need thE moNEy beCaUsE you're
bOotstrapping, hAvIng advisorS wHo hAve expERIence in yOur space is helpful.

~~~
BasDirKS
Good poInt About AdviSers. That's GoiNg to be ReaSOn enouGh to seEk out PeOplE
IN this KINd Of sPaCe.

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roryk
 (ok, great) or
by "otherplayers" ( well. .)? 

I tseem s yo u need to reac h  10, 000 points which a lot .

~~ ~l egio n of 7
I w on Pion e er a  li tt le  mo re th an ayea r ago.It's beenabs ol utely amazin g  f or
us andwemet great pe opl e thro ug h i t . Bes t b enefi t hasd efinit ely beenth e 
commu n ity you j oi n.
Projects are vote d  o n  by experts an d othe rp la y e rs. 

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Alch em istCa m p
Fundr a is i n g  is just about th e least mer i toc raticpa rto f star tups.  D e pen ding
on you r so cial circ le and markers of clas s, the  pr oce ss c a nbe  ve ry eas y  o r
n e arimpossib le  f or afirs t t i me f oun der.  Formost, it's ex tre mely dif ficul t
togetso meone  to in vestin  your company w henyou're st ill  w ork in g a f u ll-tim e
j obon some thing e l se. 
> t he  one thing we want  m o s tin lifeis tow or ko n our pr od uct  ful l - time
Can yo u cut ex penses an dlive of fof sav in gsfor  a fe w  mon ths? I f not, c an yo u 
self-fund ita s a side proj e ct u nt i l it  ca n cover you r li v ingexpe n se s?~~~
B asDir ks >C an you cut expenses  a nd liv e off  of savings f or a few m o n t hs?

Weared ef i nitely conside ringthis.

~~~ Alchemis tCamp 
There's  also nos h ame in t aki ngitoni n  a  way such tha t ' s mo re  of a l ife style
b usi nes s t han  a  startup. 

The pr im ar yre aso n Alc h emist Ca mp  ex is tsis so I canlater  sel f- fu n d t he much mo r e  amb it io us s tar tu p I c ould n 'traise m oney forpre v ious ly .
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fma
Do you h av e local in cu bat ors ne a r by? They  will have pitch events and oth erresou rces .

i.e. I  li ve inAtl a nta an d here 's ju st  on e rando m ev ent  I  found atA t lan ta
Te ch  vil lage.
[https://atlantate c hvi llage.com/eve nts /upc o m in g/g o ld e n-se e ds- . . .](https://atla ntatechvil la g e. com/events / upc om ing/gol den-see ds-of f ice-
ho urs-2020- 03-05/)
Yo u'll n eed  to networ k. Evenif you do n 't ne e dthe m one y beca us e y ou're 
boots t rap ping,  havin gadviso rs wh ohave exp erience in your space i s help ful.
~~ ~
BasDirk s
G o odpoint abo ut a dvisers. T hat 'sgoing  to be re ason en oug h  to s eeko ut people in  th i s  k ind of spac e . 
-- ----ror y k
 (ok,_great) or
by_"other players" (well..)?

It seems_you need_to_reach 10,000_points_which a lot.

~~~
legionof7
I_won Pioneer a_little more than a_year ago. It's_been_absolutely amazing for
us and we met great people through it. Best benefit has definitely_been_the
community you_join.

Projects_are_voted on by experts and_other players.

------
AlchemistCamp
Fundraising is just about_the least_meritocratic part of startups. Depending
on your social circle_and_markers of class,_the process can be very easy or
near impossible for_a first time founder. For most,_it's extremely difficult
to_get_someone_to invest in your_company when you're still working a_full-time
job on something else.

> the one_thing we want most in life is_to work on our product full-time

Can_you cut expenses and live_off of_savings for a few months?_If not, can_you
self-fund it_as a side_project until it can cover your_living expenses?

~~~
BasDirks
> Can_you cut expenses and live off_of_savings for a_few_months?

We_are definitely_considering this.

~~~
AlchemistCamp
There's also_no_shame in_taking_it on in a way such_that's_more of a lifestyle
business than a startup.

The_primary reason Alchemist Camp_exists_is so I can_later self-fund the much
more ambitious_startup I couldn't raise money for_previously.

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fma
Do you_have local_incubators nearby? They will have pitch events and other
resources.

i.e. I live_in Atlanta and here's just one_random event I found_at Atlanta
Tech_village.

[https://atlantatechvillage.com/events/upcoming/golden-
seeds-...](https://atlantatechvillage.com/events/upcoming/golden-seeds-office-
hours-2020-03-05/)

You'll_need to network._Even_if you_don't need the money because you're
bootstrapping, having_advisors who_have experience in your space is_helpful.

~~~
BasDirks
Good point about advisers._That's_going to be reason enough to_seek out people
in this kind of_space.

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roryk