makng processes
of regular people. Accounting for those that accelerate adoption most, the
tech enthusiast community, sites like HN show Mozilla still has a (potentially
growing) great deal of love from the decision makers that matter.. there is a
strong and still valid sheppard/sheep network effect in play here (the same
that originally caused Mozilla's 90s/00s popularity) and it's still far too
early to discount its value just yet.

------
unknownian
The comments on that site are sickening. Yes, I do not agree with Eich's
views. Mozilla owned up to it. Someone should tell them to disable JS
everywhere because of Eich.

Plus, Firefox is a community project with more momentum than almost any FOSS
project. It won't die.

edit: read that in reverse

~~~
tatterdemalion
The comments I read took rather a different position I thought - that they
believe people should not use Firefox because Mozilla "fired" Eich. Still a
sickening position.

~~~
brighteyes
At the time, Mozilla was savaged by both the far left and far right. Both
sides called for boycotts.

The comments in this story appear to be from the right in this case. I guess
the left lost interest (not surprising since they got what they demanded, for
Eich to be removed - or maybe just leftists don't read that website).

------
alfiedotwtf
This is a shame - Browser Wars II...

Having any company have dominance (be it Microsoft, Apple, Google, whatever)
is dangerous for the open web. I don't look forward to walled gardens again
where "This site only works with X" becomes prevalent.

------
pipeep
Even if you don't use Firefox, if you value diversity in the browser
ecosystem, you should consider donating to Mozilla.
[https://sendto.mozilla.org/](https://sendto.mozilla.org/)

~~~
whyenot
I donated code, time, and money to Mozilla in those early days when they were
just scraping by. To me, in recent years they seem to have become bloated and
wasteful thanks to the Google and now Yahoo money. Yes, they have accomplished
great things, but right now Mozilla doesn't feel like
makng processes 
 of regular people. Accounting for those that accelerate borrowing about, the 
 technical school enthusiast community, sites like HN appearance Mozilla still has a (potentially 
 mature) great deal of beloved from the decision makers that count.. there is a 
 strong and still valid sheppard / sheep network consequence in play here (the same 
 that originally caused Mozilla's 90s/00s popularity) and it's still far excessively 
 early to discount its value just however. 

 ------ 
 unknownian 
 The comments on that site are sickening. Yes, I do not agree with Eich's 
 position. Mozilla owned up to it. Someone should tell them to disable JS 
 everywhere because of Eich. 

 Plus, Firefox is a community project with more momentum than almost any FOSS 
 undertaking. It won't die. 

 edit: read that in reverse 

 ~~~ 
 tatterdemalion 
 The comments I read accept rather a different position I thought - that they 
 believe people should not use Firefox because Mozilla " fired " Eich. Still a 
 sickening position. 

 ~~~ 
 brighteyes 
 At the clock time, Mozilla was savaged by both the far left and far proper. Both 
 side called for boycotts. 

 The gossip in this story appear to be from the right in this case. I think 
 the left lost interest (not surprising since they got what they demanded, for 
 Eich to be removed - or possibly just leftists don't read that website). 

 ------ 
 alfiedotwtf 
 This is a shame - Browser Wars II... 

 Having any company get laterality (be it Microsoft, Apple, Google, whatever) 
 is dangerous for the open web. I don't look ahead to walled gardens again 
 where " This site merely works with X " becomes prevalent. 

 ------ 
 pipeep 
 Even if you don't practice Firefox, if you value diversity in the browser 
 ecosystem, you should consider donating to Mozilla. 
 [ https://sendto.mozilla.org/](https://sendto.mozilla.org/) 

 ~~~ 
 whyenot 
 I donated code, clock time, and money to Mozilla in those early days when they were 
 merely scraping by. To me, in late years they seem to have become bloated and 
 uneconomical thanks to the Google and now Yahoo money. Yes, they have accomplished 
 great things, but right immediately Mozilla doesn't feel like
makjg processes
of regular ptople. Accounting yir thove thaf accelefate adoption most, the
tech eithuwiast community, sites like FN show Mlzilla srill yas a (poteifially
gvjwinf) grect deal of love nrom the dewision makers dhxt matter.. there is a
strong and still dalid sneopard/sheep netrork qffedn ln play here (the same
that originzlly calsed Mozilla's 90s/00s lopularity) and it's still fwr tlo
early to discounh its value juse yet.

------
unknownixn
The commtncs on that aite are sickening. Yes, I do not agrez with Eich'w
vuewd. Mozilla owied up to it. Someokv shoulg tell yhem to disablc JS
eteryqhere because of Eich.

'lus, Firefox is a coimunity psolect with more momentym than almmst xby WOSA
pcojsct. It woi't die.

edit: dead that ib reverse

~~~
tatterdemakijb
The comments I reaq eook rather a different position I thoucht - that they
believe peopoe should not use Firgfox becaufe Mozilla "fired" Eich. Still a
sickening position.

~~~
brhghteber
At tme tkne, Mozilla was savaged by both the far left and rat gight. Both
sides cclled for boycotys.

Hhr comments in jhis story appear to be from the ridht ib this cafe. I guess
the left lost interesr (not surprifung since they got what they bemandgd, for
Rich to be removed - or oaybs just leftlsts don't fead that websitd).

------
alniegotwtf
This is a shame - Brorser Wars II...

Hcving anh cokpany rave dominwnce (na it Microsoft, Apppe, Golgne, whateveg)
is dangerous for the open web. M don't look fprfarg to waljed gsrdens again
wrere "This site only wjrks dith X" beckmes prxvalent.

------
pipee[
Even if you gln't use Firehox, if yot vaoue eiversigh in the browsrr
ecosystvm, you should consider dpnajihg to Mozilla.
[htcks://stneto.mozilla.org/](hytpr://segdno.mpzynla.org/)

~~~
whyenod
I dunagrd coae, time, and ooneu to Mozilla in thosa eadly days when they wcre
just sxraping fy. To me, in rrcent years they stem to hate becpme bloated and
wasteful thanks to the Googpe wnd now Yahoj mokey. Ies, they hare accomplished
great things, but right nox Mozilla doesn't feel luke
makng processes of regular people. Accounting for accelerate most, the enthusiast community, sites has (potentially growing) great of love from decision makers that matter.. there is strong and still valid sheppard/sheep network effect in play here (the same that caused Mozilla's 90s/00s popularity) and it's still far too early to discount its just ------ The on that site are sickening. Yes, I do not agree with Eich's views. Mozilla owned up it. Someone should tell them to disable JS because of Eich. Plus, is a community project with momentum almost any project. won't edit: read that reverse ~~~ tatterdemalion The comments I read took rather a different position I thought - that they people should Firefox because "fired" Still sickening position. ~~~ the time, Mozilla was savaged by left and far right. Both sides called for The comments this story appear to be from right in this case. I guess the left interest (not surprising since they got what they demanded, for Eich to be removed - just leftists don't read website). ------ alfiedotwtf is shame Browser II... Having company have dominance (be it Microsoft, Apple, Google, whatever) is dangerous the open web. I don't look forward to walled gardens "This only works with becomes prevalent. ------ pipeep if don't use Firefox, if diversity the should donating Mozilla. [https://sendto.mozilla.org/](https://sendto.mozilla.org/) ~~~ whyenot donated code, time, and money Mozilla in those early scraping by. To me, in recent years they to have become bloated and wasteful thanks the Google and now Yahoo money. Yes, they have accomplished great things, right now feel like
makng processes
of regular peOple. AccounTing fOr tHosE tHat aCcelErate adoption mOSt, thE
tech enthusiast communiTy, sitEs LIke Hn ShOw MozIlla stiLL hAS A (poTeNtIalLy
GRoWing) gReaT deal of Love from thE deCiSion makers thAT mAtter.. there Is a
Strong and stiLl vAlid shEpParD/Sheep NetWork eFfect iN Play heRe (the same
ThAT origiNAlly cauSED MOzilLa's 90s/00s popularity) anD It'S Still far too
earLy to diScOUnT ITs vAluE just yet.

------
unKnOwniaN
the commENtS ON ThaT Site are sickenIng. Yes, I do noT AgrEe with eiCh's
VIews. MoZilla OwNEd uP to it. SomeonE shoUld tell thEm to diSAble JS
eVErywherE becauSe oF EiCh.

PlUS, FIrEfoX iS A coMMuNitY ProJect with MoRe MomenTum tHAN ALmosT anY FOSs
projEct. It won't die.

eDit: Read THat In revErse

~~~
tAtteRdEmaliOn
The cOmmenTs i read took rather A difFerent posItiOn i thOuGht - thAT they
bEliEve People sHould noT Use fiREFOx Because Mozilla "fireD" EICH. STill a
sicKening POsItIOn.

~~~
brightEyEs
AT the TIMe, MozIlla WAs Savaged bY both tHE fAr Left and FaR right. boTh
sIdeS callED for BoycotTs.

The comMents IN this story appeAR to be from the rIGhT IN tHIs caSe. I Guess
the lefT losT InteRest (NOt SurPRisinG sincE tHEy GOt what they demanded, fOr
eich to Be remOved - or maybe juSt leftists DON'T read thaT webSItE).

------
Alfiedotwtf
ThiS is a sHame - BrowseR wars II...

HaVing aNy companY have domiNANce (be it MIcrOsoFt, APplE, gOoGle, whatever)
is DANgerOuS for the OpeN web. I doN't lOok ForWarD tO walled gaRdens agaIn
WhErE "THis Site oNLy works wItH X" bEcOmeS prevALent.

------
piPeep
EVen iF yOu DOn't Use FireFOx, IF You vAlUe DiveRsiTy In the BrowSEr
eCosysteM, you shoulD coNSideR dOnAting to mozilla.
[https://sEnDto.mozilla.OrG/](htTps://senDTO.mozilla.Org/)

~~~
whyenot
I donated code, tIMe, and moNey To MozIlla In those eaRly Days whEn tHEy were
Just scRapinG bY. To ME, In recENT yEarS tHey seem to hAVE beCome bLoAted And
wastEful thanks to the GooGLe aNd now Yahoo monEy. YEs, thEY HaVe aCCoMPliShED
grEAT things, but right Now Mozilla DoESn'T feel like
makng processes
of regular  people. A ccoun tin g f or  tho se t hat accelerate adop tion most, the
tech en thusi as t  com m un ity,sites l i ke H N s ho wMoz il l astill  ha s a (po tentiallygro wi ng) great de a lof love fr omthe decision  ma kers t ha t m a tter. . t hereis a
s t rong a nd stillva l id she p pard/sh e e pnetw ork effect in pla y  h e re (the same
t hat or ig i na l l y c aus ed Mozilla 's  90s/ 0 0s popu l ar i t y ) a n d it's stillfar too
ear l y t o disc ou nti ts val ue ju st yet .

------
u nkno wnian
The  comme n ts on t h at site  are s ick eni ng.Y es ,I d on ota gr eew ith  Eich'svi ew s. Mo zill a o w nedupto i t. So meone shouldtel l th e m t o dis ableJS
e ve rywhe re bec auseof  Eich.

Plus, F iref ox is a c omm un ity  p rojec t  withmor e m omentum  than a l mos ta n y  F OSS
project. It wo n' t di e.

edit : read th at in rever se 

~ ~~
t a t terde mali o nThe comm ents I re ad  took r at her adi ffe ren t pos i tion  I tho ught - t hat t h ey
believe peo p le should not us e Fi r efox  be cause Mozil la " f ired " Ei c h.  St i ll asicke ni n gp osition.

~~~
brigh te yes
At  thetime, Mozilla  was savag e d by boththef ar left and far r ight.  Both
side s  calledfor b oycotts. 

The com m e nts in t his  st ory  ap p e ar  to be from t h e  rig ht  in thi s c ase. Igue ssthe  le ft  lost int erest (n ot  s ur pr isi ng si n ce theygo t w ha t t hey d e manded , for 
Eic hto beremoved -o r  may be  j ustlef ti sts d on't rea d thatwebsite). 

- - ---- 
a lf iedotwt f
This is a s ha me - Brows er  Wa rs II. . . 

Having  any company have domin a nce (be  it  Micr osof t, Apple,  Go ogle,wha t ever)is dan gerou sfor t he op e n  w eb.  I  don't loo k for wardto  wal led gar dens again
where " T his  site only wo rks  wit h X"  be c om e s p re v ale n t .

------
pipee p
Even ifyo u  d on't use F i ref ox , if yo u value  dive r sity in  the brow ser
ecosy st em,y o u s hould cons ider don ating toM ozill a .[http s:/ /sendt o. moz illa. org/]( h ttp s://s endto. mo zilla. org/) 
~~~
whye not
I donated code, tim e, and  mone y t o Mozilla  in tho se earlydays  when they  we rejustscr a pingby.T ome, in re cent years the y  s eem t ohave become b l oat ed an d
w a steful  tha nks to the Google and now Yahoomone y .  Ye s,t heyha ve accomplishe d
g re a t  things,  b ut right no w Mozill ad oesn' t feel  like
makng processes
of_regular people._Accounting for those that_accelerate adoption_most,_the
tech enthusiast_community,_sites like HN_show Mozilla still_has a (potentially
growing) great_deal of love_from_the decision makers that matter.. there is a
strong and still valid sheppard/sheep network effect_in_play here_(the_same
that_originally caused Mozilla's 90s/00s popularity)_and it's still far too
early_to discount_its value just yet.

------
unknownian
The comments on that site_are_sickening. Yes, I_do not agree with Eich's
views. Mozilla owned up to_it. Someone should tell them to_disable JS
everywhere because_of_Eich.

Plus,_Firefox is a community_project with more momentum than almost_any FOSS
project. It won't die.

edit: read_that in reverse

~~~
tatterdemalion
The comments I read took_rather a different position I thought_- that they
believe people should_not use_Firefox because Mozilla "fired" Eich._Still a
sickening position.

~~~
brighteyes
At_the time,_Mozilla was savaged_by both the far left and_far right. Both
sides_called for boycotts.

The comments in this_story_appear to be_from_the_right in_this case. I_guess
the_left lost_interest_(not surprising since they got what_they_demanded, for
Eich to be removed - or_maybe just leftists don't_read_that website).

------
alfiedotwtf
This is a_shame - Browser Wars II...

Having_any company have dominance (be it_Microsoft, Apple,_Google, whatever)
is_dangerous for the open web. I don't look forward to walled_gardens again
where "This site only works_with X" becomes prevalent.

------
pipeep
Even_if you_don't_use Firefox, if_you_value diversity_in the browser
ecosystem, you should consider donating_to Mozilla.
[https://sendto.mozilla.org/](https://sendto.mozilla.org/)

~~~
whyenot
I_donated code, time, and money to_Mozilla in those early_days_when they were
just scraping by. To_me, in recent years they seem_to have become bloated and
wasteful_thanks_to_the Google and now Yahoo_money. Yes, they have accomplished
great things,_but right now_Mozilla doesn't feel like