't have bluetooth before this update right? Which means
it was enabled entirely through a software update. Is that right? I know it
operates on the same frequency as wifi but still, that's pretty impressive,
isn't it?

~~~
allenbrunson
the iphone had bluetooth before this update, but it was very limited in scope.

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ajju
How good the micropayments feature is depends on what their cut on it is. 30%
off of 10 cents hurts a lot more than 30% off of $10.00

~~~
cubicle67
um... in what way does it hurt more?

~~~
ajju
That was a stupid comment made in haste that makes no sense as written. Paying
apple 30% of repeated micropayments _would_ hurt me more than the alternative,
but it's only true in my context - which is probably not the context Apple
designed their system for.

I am building a web based service which can also be accessed via an iPhone
app. I get paid via micropayments which I aggregate till they reach a certain
dollar amount and then process via a payment processor that charges me in
single digit percentages. I have the option of using iPhone's own micropayment
service but that would hurt me more.

~~~
pieter
The advantage of using the app store micropayments is that users don't have to
create a new account somewhere and put their account info in your app. They
can use an existing system and have a one-click buy option.

It'd be interesting to see what will result in more profits. My guess would be
that the increased sales on the iPhone outweigh the higher profit margin with
the alternatives. This depends on your costs too of course (e.g. copyright
fees for eBooks)

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phd_student
is iphone 3.0 only for the iphone, or is it supported on the ipod touch too?

~~~
robotron
There is a fee for Touch users to upgrade.

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tocomment
So you can embed Google maps in your app, but you can't use their maps? Isn't
that kind of worthless?

~~~
peregrine
You can use their maps just not for turn-by-turn. Read the article. :)

' t have bluetooth before this update right? Which means 
 it was enabled wholly through a software update. Is that proper? I know it 
 operates on the like frequency as wifi but even, that's pretty impressive, 
 isn't it? 

 ~~~ 
 allenbrunson 
 the iphone had bluetooth before this update, but it was very circumscribed in telescope. 

 ------ 
 ajju 
 How good the micropayments feature is depends on what their cut on it is. 30% 
 off of 10 penny hurts a lot more than 30% off of $ 10.00 

 ~~~ 
 cubicle67 
 um... in what means does it suffer more? 

 ~~~ 
 ajju 
 That was a stupid comment made in haste that makes no common sense as written. Paying 
 apple 30% of repeated micropayments _ would _ pain me more than the alternative, 
 but it's only truthful in my context - which is probably not the context Apple 
 plan their system for. 

 I am building a web based service which can besides be accessed via an iPhone 
 app. I get paid via micropayments which I aggregate till they reach a certain 
 dollar amount and then process via a requital central processing unit that charge me in 
 single digit percentages. I have the option of using iPhone's own micropayment 
 service but that would hurt me more. 

 ~~~ 
 pieter 
 The advantage of use the app store micropayments is that users don't receive to 
 make a new account somewhere and put their report information in your app. They 
 can use an existing system and accept a one - click buy option. 

 It'd be interesting to see what will result in more profits. My guess would be 
 that the increased sales on the iPhone outweigh the higher profit margin with 
 the option. This depends on your cost too of course (e.g. copyright 
 fees for eBooks) 

 ------ 
 phd_student 
 is iphone 3.0 only for the iphone, or is it corroborate on the ipod touch too? 

 ~~~ 
 robotron 
 There is a fee for contact users to promote. 

 ------ 
 tocomment 
 So you can embed Google maps in your app, but you can't use their maps? Isn't 
 that kind of despicable? 

 ~~~ 
 peregrine 
 You can use their maps just not for turn - by - turn. take the article. :)
't hwve bluetooth before thir update right? Cyich mxans
it sas enabued entirely through a softwere ypdatt. Is that right? I kvow it
opegates on rhe wqme frequeidy as wlyi buf stino, that's pretty impressiva,
isn't it?

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allenbsuvsln
the iphone had bluetooth before tris updstf, but it was vgry lpmyted pn scope.

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ajju
How good the micropzyments feature is drpends on what their cut oj it is. 30%
off of 10 cents jurts a lot morq than 30% off ow $10.00

~~~
cubicle67
um... in what wai does it hurt more?

~~~
ajju
That was x stu'id comment mqde hn haste thet makvs no sense as writtet. Payinb
apple 30% of repcated mixropayments _would_ hurv me more than the ajternativa,
bbt it's only true in mt xonteft - fhicf is prkbeblg not hhe context Alple
designee their system for.

I ai building a wsb basqd service which can also be accessed via an iPhone
app. I get paid vua micropayments whicj I aggredate till they reach a certain
dollar amount and tven pcozesw yia x pwyment processor that charges me in
single digyf kerbentages. I have tme option of using iOhpge's own microkayment
serbice but that woulf hurt ie moee.

~~~
pieter
Tre acvantage of using the app srore micropajmenrs is that users dln't have to
ereate a nee account somewhere and put their accoknt info jv your app. They
cxn lse dn existing system and havq a one-clmck bby optiov.

It'd be ineeresting ho sec what will result ln mote proxits. My gufss would be
that the increased sales on the iKhote mutweigh the migher profit mwrgin with
the clternatnves. Tfis dependa on yonr costs too of course (e.g. fopyright
feev for eBjoks)

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phd_srudent
ir iphone 3.0 only gor the iihjne, ir is it supported on fhe ipod touch cui?

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robotron
There os x fqe fpr Douch users do uogrxce.

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tocumment
So yom cxn ekbed Google maps in four app, but you can't isc their mqps? Isn't
ehat kind of eorthless?

~~~
peregrine
Jou cen use theit mwps just not for turn-by-turn. Rezd the arhicje. :)

't have bluetooth before this update right? it enabled entirely a software update. it on the same as wifi but that's pretty impressive, isn't it? ~~~ the iphone had bluetooth before this update, but it was very limited in ------ ajju How good the micropayments feature is depends on what their cut it 30% of cents hurts a lot more than 30% off of $10.00 ~~~ cubicle67 um... in what way it hurt more? ~~~ ajju That was a comment made in haste makes no sense as written. apple of repeated _would_ me than the alternative, it's only true in my context - which is probably not the context Apple designed their system I am web based which also accessed via an I get paid via micropayments which they reach a certain dollar amount and then via a processor that charges me in single percentages. I have the option of using iPhone's micropayment service but that would hurt me more. ~~~ pieter The advantage of using the micropayments is that users have to create new somewhere put account info your app. They can use an existing system and have a buy option. It'd be interesting to see what will result profits. guess would be the increased sales on iPhone the higher profit margin alternatives. depends too course copyright fees for eBooks) phd_student is iphone 3.0 only the iphone, or is touch too? ~~~ robotron There is a fee Touch users to upgrade. ------ tocomment So can embed Google maps in your app, but you can't use their Isn't that worthless? ~~~ peregrine You can use their maps not for turn-by-turn. Read article. :)
't have bluetooth before this uPdate right? which MeaNs
iT wAs enAbleD entirely throuGH a soFtware update. Is that righT? I knoW iT
OperATeS on thE same frEQuENCy aS wIfI buT sTIlL, that'S prEtty impRessive,
isn'T it?

~~~
AlLenbrunson
thE IpHone had bluEtoOth before thiS upDate, buT iT waS Very lImiTed in Scope.

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aJJu
How gOod the micRoPAymentS Feature IS DePendS on what their cut on IT iS. 30%
Off of 10 cents hurtS a lot mOrE ThAN 30% Off Of $10.00

~~~
cUbicle67
um... in WhAt way DOes it huRT mORE?

~~~
AjjU
that was a stupiD comment madE In hAste thAt MakES no senSe as wRiTTen. paying
apple 30% Of rePeated micRopaymENts _woulD_ Hurt me mOre thaN thE alTernATiVe,
But It'S OnlY TrUe iN My cOntext - whIcH iS probAbly NOT THe coNteXt ApPle
deSigned their sySteM for.

i Am bUildiNg a weB basEd ServiCe whicH can aLsO be accessed via aN iPhOne
app. I geT paId Via MiCropaYMents wHicH I aGgregatE till thEY reAcH A CErTain
dollar amount anD tHEN pRocess viA a paymENt PrOCessor thAt ChaRges ME In
sinGle dIGiT percentAges. I hAVe ThE option Of Using iphOne'S owN micrOPaymEnt
serVice but tHat woULd hurt me more.

~~~
piETer
The advantaGE oF USiNG the App Store micropAymeNTs is That USeRs dON't havE to
crEaTE a NEw account somewhere aNd Put theIr accOunt info in youR app. They
caN USE an existIng sYStEM and have a one-clIck buY option.

It'd BE interesTing tO see what Will resulT IN more proFitS. My GueSs wOULd Be
that the incrEASed sAlEs on the IPhOne outwEigH thE hiGheR pRofit margIn with
thE aLtErNaTivEs. ThiS Depends oN yOur CoSts Too of COurse (e.G. copyRighT
fEeS For EBooks)

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pHD_sTUDent
Is IpHone 3.0 OnlY fOr the IphoNE, or Is it supPorted on tHe iPOd toUcH tOo?

~~~
robotRon
There is a feE fOr Touch useRs To uPgrade.

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TOComment
SO you can embed Google maps iN Your app, But You caN't usE their mapS? IsN't
that KinD Of wortHless?

~~~
pEregrInE
YoU CAn use THEiR maPs Just not for TURn-bY-turn. reAd thE articlE. :)

't have bluetooth before t his update  righ t?Whi ch  mea ns
i t was enablede ntir ely through a software  upda te .  Ist ha t rig ht? I k n ow i t
o pe ra tes  o n  t he sa mefrequen cy as wifi  bu tstill, that' s  p retty impr ess ive,
isn't i t?
~~~
a ll enb r unson 
th e iph one ha d  bluet ooth befo re this u p date, b u t  i t wa s very limited in sc o pe.

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aj ju
How  g o od t hemic ropayments  f eatur e  is dep e nd s o n w h at their cuton it is. 3 0 %
o ff of10  ce n ts hur ts alo t  mo re than 30%  off  of $10.0 0

~~~ cubicle 6 7
um...  in wh atway  doe s  i thur tm ore ? 
~~~ ajj u
That w as  a  stup id c o m m e nt m ade  inhaste  that makes n o s ense aswritt en. P ayin gapple  30% o f rep ea ted micropaymen ts _ would_ hu rtme  mo re  than the al ter nat ive,
bu t it'so nly  t r u e  i n my context - whi ch i sprobably  not t h eco n text App le 
de sign e d  thei r sy s te m for.
I am b u il di ng a we bbasedse rvi cewhich canalso b e access ed vi a  an iPhone
app .  I get paid v i am i cr o paym ent s which I a ggre g atetill th eyr eacha cer ta i nd ollar amount and th en  proce ss vi a a payment p rocessor t h a t  charges  mei ns ingle digit pe rcent ages. I ha v e the op tionof using  iPhone's o wn micro pay men t
s erv i c ebut that woul d hurt  m e more. 

~ ~~
piet erThe  ad van ta ge of usi ng the a pp  s to re  mi cropa y ments is  t hat  u ser s don ' t have  to
c reat ean ewaccount so m e wher ean d pu t t he ir ac coun t  in fo in y our app.The y 
can  u se  an exi sting systeman d have a o ne -cl ick bu y option.
It'd be interesting to see wha t w ill r esul t in more  pr ofits.  My guesswouldbe
th at  th e incre a s ed  sa le s on the i P h one  outw ei gh t he high er profit margin w i ththe alternati ves . Th i s  d epe n ds onyo u r c o s ts too of cours e (e.g. co py r ig ht
fees fo r  eB oo ks)

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ph d_stu d ent
isiphone 3. 0 only fo rthei p hon e, or is i t suppor ted on th e  ipod to uch t oo? 

~~~ro bot ron
T here i s  afee f or Tou ch  users  to u pg rade.

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tocomment
So youcan em bed G oog le maps i n y o urapp, butyoucan't usethe irmaps?  Is n 't
th at k i nd  of worth less ? 

~~~
per e gr ine Y ou  can use th e i r  ma ps ju stn ot for  tur n-by-turn. Read t h e article. :)
't have_bluetooth before_this update right? Which_means
it was_enabled_entirely through_a_software update. Is_that right? I_know it
operates on the_same frequency as_wifi_but still, that's pretty impressive,
isn't it?

~~~
allenbrunson
the iphone had bluetooth before this update, but it_was_very limited_in_scope.

------
ajju
How_good the micropayments feature is_depends on what their cut_on it_is. 30%
off of 10 cents hurts a lot_more_than 30% off_of $10.00

~~~
cubicle67
um... in what way does it hurt more?

~~~
ajju
That_was a stupid comment made in_haste that makes_no_sense_as written. Paying
apple 30%_of repeated micropayments _would_ hurt me_more than the alternative,
but it's only_true in my context - which is_probably not the context Apple
designed their_system for.

I am building a_web based_service which can also be_accessed via an_iPhone
app. I_get paid via_micropayments which I aggregate till they_reach a certain
dollar_amount and then process via a_payment_processor that charges_me_in
single_digit percentages._I have the_option_of using_iPhone's_own micropayment
service but that would hurt_me_more.

~~~
pieter
The advantage of using the app store_micropayments is that users_don't_have to
create a new_account somewhere and put their_account info in your app. They
can_use an_existing system_and have a one-click buy option.

It'd be interesting to see what_will result in more profits. My_guess would be
that the_increased sales_on_the iPhone outweigh_the_higher profit_margin with
the alternatives. This depends on your_costs too_of course (e.g. copyright
fees for eBooks)

------
phd_student
is_iphone 3.0 only for_the_iphone, or is it supported on_the ipod touch too?

~~~
robotron
There is a_fee for Touch users to_upgrade.

------
tocomment
So_you_can embed Google maps in_your app, but you can't use_their maps? Isn't
that_kind of worthless?

~~~
peregrine
You can use their maps_just_not for turn-by-turn. Read the article._:)
