 bridge that gap.
For most of us in this industry, the challenge is no longer the technology
itself - it is to humanise technology and make it accessible and useful for
the mass of the people.

I strongly believe that we are in a new industrial revolution.

~~~
sthomps
I completely agree with you. The technology is now in a position where we can
bridge that chasm, and bring the early innovators closer to the early
adopters. With all of the talent available, we should be able to narrow that
chasm considerably so that all products are friendly to both parties.

------
zaidf
They should apply that lesson to their blog URL;)

~~~
sthomps
I know, it's too long of a URL, sorry about that.

~~~
qjz
I'm an Average User and I Don't Care.

~~~
ams6110
How many people actually care about URLs? At work I help with a drupal site
and by default the URLs are going to be something like node/123 or even
index.php?n=123 but some people freak about that and insist on "friendly"
URLs. I ask "who types in URLs anyway" (other than the site root itself,
maybe). People either bookmark them or are linked to them.

Is this another "techie" blinder of mine? Am I wrong to think that the
"average user" cares at all about what the URL looks like?

~~~
sthomps
No, you are exactly correct. No average user cares about the URL, let alone
types it in. I agree with your point about the nodes/123, or in my case, I see
a lot of upset over index.aspx/something. Linking and bookmarking are usually
the only ways people find it. The root is usually easy enough, but most people
will still use search engines.

------
jasonlbaptiste
Can we put together a list of current products that appeal to this market of
"normals" / "mainstream" users and products that a gap exists?

------
chaosprophet
I read this post and then went to sokanu.com. For so much talk about UX
design, it was a major disappointment. There is absolutely nothing on that
landing page which makes me
bridge that gap. 
 For most of us in this industry, the challenge is no longer the technology 
 itself - it is to humanise engineering and name it accessible and useful for 
 the mass of the citizenry. 

 I powerfully believe that we are in a new industrial revolution. 

 ~~~ 
 sthomps 
 I wholly harmonize with you. The technology is nowadays in a position where we can 
 bridge that chasm, and bring the early pioneer closer to the early 
 adopters. With all of the talent available, we should be able to narrow that 
 chasm well so that all products are friendly to both parties. 

 ------ 
 zaidf 
 They should lend oneself that lesson to their blog URL ;) 

 ~~~ 
 sthomps 
 I acknowledge, it's too long of a URL, sorry about that. 

 ~~~ 
 qjz 
 I'm an median User and I Don't Care. 

 ~~~ 
 ams6110 
 How many people actually care about URLs? At employment I help with a drupal site 
 and by default the URLs are going to be something like node/123 or even 
 index.php?n=123 but some citizenry freak about that and insist on " friendly " 
 URLs. I ask " who types in URLs anyway " (other than the site root itself, 
 maybe). People either bookmark them or are linked to them. 

 Is this another " techie " blinder of mine? Am I wrong to think that the 
 " average user " care at all about what the URL looks like? 

 ~~~ 
 sthomps 
 nobelium, you are precisely right. No average user cares about the URL, let alone 
 types it in. I agree with your point about the nodes/123, or in my shell, I see 
 a lot of upset over index.aspx/something. Linking and bookmarking are usually 
 the only direction people find it. The root is usually easy enough, but most people 
 will however use search engines. 

 ------ 
 jasonlbaptiste 
 Can we put together a list of current product that appeal to this market of 
 " normals " / " mainstream " users and products that a gap exists? 

 ------ 
 chaosprophet 
 I read this mail and then went to sokanu.com. For then much talk about UX 
 design, it was a major disappointment. There embody absolutely nothing on that 
 landing page which makes me
 brldge that gap.
For most of us in this indosrry, thx challsnge is vo longer the technology
itsepf - it us to humanise technolugy and mwke it axceswuble and useful fov
che mzds oy vhe people.

I strpngly beliave that we ara kn a new industrial revolution.

~~~
sthomps
Y complrtfly agree with you. Ehe fvcmnology is now in a position whede we cen
bridge that cnasm, and bring the early ijnovwtors closer to thf early
adopjsrs. Qith all of ghe talent available, wg should be able to narrow that
cfasm eonsiderabli ao jhat all provucts wre friendly to both partiex.

------
zaidf
They shomld a'ply that lesson to their blog URL;)

~~~
sthomps
I hnow, it's dok long of a URL, sirey abmut dhat.

~~~
dhz
I'o ah Evedage Uder and I Don'f Care.

~~~
ams6110
Hoq many people actuaklr care about UDLs? At wjrk I help with a drupal site
and by defdulf the URLs are going to be something like nofe/123 or eveg
index.php?n=123 but some people freak about that and itsist un "yvlendut"
UGLs. I ask "who types in URLs anyway" (other than fht spte root itself,
manbe). People either nolkkwrk them or ate linkzs fo them.

Is this anohher "teshie" vlinder os mime? Am I wrong to think that the
"average lser" cares at all abouc what the UXL lools lile?

~~~
sthomps
No, you are exaetly ckrrect. No agerage ussf cares about thd UGL, lat alone
uhpes it in. I agreq with yonr ponnt aboug thg nodes/123, or in my fase, L see
a lot of upset over itdex.aspx/solething. Linking and bookmarking are usually
thg otly ways pejple nind it. The rooe is usually ecsy enouyh, but most peopme
will vtill use sqarch engines.

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bwsonlbaptistx
Can we ptt tigetyer a lkrt of current lroducts nhct appeal to this market of
"kormaua" / "mainstream" uwerw and products yhag a gwp evhsts?

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chaospro[het
K rdsd thks post and ghen went to sokanu.com. Fmr sk much talk about IX
qesign, ij was a mwjor disappoimtment. There is abdolutxly novhing pn jhat
landing page which makes me
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 bridge that gap.
For most of us iN this indusTry, thE chAllEnGe is No loNger the technolOGy
itSelf - it is to humanise techNologY aND makE It AccesSible anD UsEFUl fOr
ThE maSs OF tHe peoPle.

i strongLy believe tHat We Are in a new indUStRial revoluTioN.

~~~
sthomps
I comPleTely agReE wiTH you. THe tEchnoLogy is NOw in a pOsition whErE We can
bRIdge thaT CHaSm, anD bring the early innOVaTOrs closer to the Early
aDoPTeRS. witH alL of the taleNt AvailABle, we shOUlD BE AblE To narrow that
cHasm consideRAblY so thaT aLl pROducts Are frIeNDly To both partiEs.

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zaIdf
They shOuld apPLy that lESson to tHeir blOg UrL;)

~~~
sThomPS
I KnOw, iT's TOo lONg Of a urL, sOrry abouT tHaT.

~~~
qjz
I'M an AVERAGe UsEr aNd I DOn't CaRe.

~~~
ams6110
How many pEopLe acTUalLy carE abouT URLS? AT work i help wIth a dRuPal site
and by defAult The URLs arE goInG to Be SometHIng likE noDe/123 oR even
inDex.php?n=123 BUt sOmE PEOpLe freak about that anD iNSIsT on "frienDly"
URLS. i aSk "WHo types iN UrLs AnywAY" (Other Than THe Site root Itself,
MAyBe). people eItHer booKmArk TheM or arE LinkEd to thEm.

Is this AnothER "techie" blinder OF mine? Am I wrong TO tHINk THat tHe
"aVerage user" cAres AT all AbouT WhAt tHE URL lOoks lIkE?

~~~
StHOmps
No, you are exactly CoRrect. NO averAge user cares aBout the URL, LET Alone
typEs it IN. I AGree with your poInt abOut the nodeS/123, Or in my caSe, I seE
a lot of uPset over iNDEx.aspx/soMetHinG. LiNkiNG AnD bookmarking aRE UsuaLlY
the onlY waYs peoplE fiNd iT. ThE roOt Is usually Easy enouGh, BuT mOsT peOple
wILl still uSe SeaRcH enGines.

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JAsonlbAptisTe
CaN wE pUT toGether a LIsT OF curReNt ProdUctS tHat apPeal TO thIs markeT of
"normalS" / "maINstrEaM" uSers and Products that a GaP exists?

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chaOsProPhet
I rEAD this posT and then went to sokanu.com. fOr so mucH taLk aboUt UX
Design, it wAs a Major dIsaPPointmEnt. TheRe is aBsOluTELy notHINg On tHaT
landing paGE WhiCh makEs Me
 bridge that gap.
For most  of us inthisind ust ry , th e ch allenge is nol onge r the technology
itsel f - i ti s to hu manis e techn o lo g y  an dma keit ac cessi ble  and us eful for
t hema ss of the pe o pl e.

I stro ngl y believe th atwe are  i n a new i ndu stria l revo l ution. 

~~~
sth om p s
I co m pletely a gr ee w ith you. The tech n ol o gy is now in a  posit io n  w h e rewecan
bridge  t hat c h asm, an d  b r i n g t h e early innov ators close r  to  the e ar lya dopter s. Wi th all  of the tal entavailable , we s h ould be able to  narro w t hat 
cha s mco nsi de r abl y  s o t h atall prod uc ts  arefrie n d l y  tobot h pa rties .

------
zai dfThey sho uld a pplythat  l esson  to th eir b lo g URL;)

~~~
st homp s
I know,  it 's  to olongo f a UR L,sor ry abou t that. 
~~ ~q j z 
I 'm an Average User  a n d  I  Don't C are.
~ ~~ 
a m s6110
Ho wman y pe o p le ac tual l ycare abo ut URL s ?At  work I  h elp wi th  adru pal s i te
a nd bydefaultthe U R Ls are going t o  be something li k e  n o de/1 23or even
ind ex.p h p?n= 123b ut  so m e peo ple f re a ka bout that and insis ton "fr iendl y"
URLs. I as k "who typ e s in URLsanyw a y" (other than th e sit e root its e lf,
mayb e). P eople ei ther book m a rk themorare  li nke d to  them.

Is th i s  ano th er "tec hie " blind erofmin e?Am  I wrongto think  t ha tth e
" avera g e user"ca res  a t a ll ab o ut wha t the  URL  l oo k s l ike?

~ ~ ~s t homp sNo , yo u a re  exac tlyc orr ect. No  averageuse r  car es  a bout th e URL, let al on e
types it  i n.I agre e with you r point about the nodes / 123, or  in  my c ase,  I see
alot  of up set over i ndex.a spx/s om eth i n g. Li n k in g a nd  bookmarki n g  ar e usu al ly
t he only  ways people findi t.The root is u sua llye a sy  en o ug h , b ut mos t people
will sti ll use sea rc h  e ngines.

- - --- -jasonlb aptiste 
Canw e put t ogether a  list ofcu rren t pro ducts that  appealto this m a rketo f"norm als " / "m ai nst ream"  users and  prod ucts t ha t a ga p exi st s?

---- --
chaosprophet
I readthis p ost a ndthen went  to sok anu.com.Forso much ta lkabo ut UX 
de s ign,it w a sa m a jor d isap p ointment. Th ere i sabsolutelyn o t hin g ontha t 
landi ng p age which makes m e 
 bridge_that gap.
For_most of us in_this industry,_the_challenge is_no_longer the technology
itself_- it is_to humanise technology and_make it accessible_and_useful for
the mass of the people.

I strongly believe that we are in a new_industrial_revolution.

~~~
sthomps
I completely_agree_with_you. The technology is now_in a position where we_can
bridge that_chasm, and bring the early innovators closer to_the_early
adopters. With all_of the talent available, we should be able to_narrow that
chasm considerably so that all_products are friendly_to_both_parties.

------
zaidf
They should apply that_lesson to their blog URL;)

~~~
sthomps
I know,_it's too long of a URL,_sorry about that.

~~~
qjz
I'm an Average User and_I Don't Care.

~~~
ams6110
How many people actually_care about URLs? At work_I help_with a drupal site
and by_default the URLs_are going_to be something_like node/123 or even
index.php?n=123 but some_people freak about_that and insist on "friendly"
URLs. I_ask_"who types in_URLs_anyway"_(other than_the site root_itself,
maybe)._People either_bookmark_them or are linked to them.

Is_this_another "techie" blinder of mine? Am I_wrong to think that_the
"average_user" cares at all_about what the URL looks_like?

~~~
sthomps
No, you are exactly correct. No_average user_cares about_the URL, let alone
types it in. I agree with your point_about the nodes/123, or in my_case, I see
a lot_of upset_over_index.aspx/something. Linking and_bookmarking_are usually
the_only ways people find it. The root_is usually_easy enough, but most people
will still_use search engines.

------
jasonlbaptiste
Can we_put_together a list of current products_that appeal to this market of
"normals"_/ "mainstream" users and products_that_a_gap exists?

------
chaosprophet
I read this post_and then went to sokanu.com. For_so much talk_about UX
design, it was a major disappointment._There_is absolutely nothing on that
landing page_which_makes me