other large companies did this, I think there is a good chance that we could
innovate our way out of the climate change crisis.

~~~
selimthegrim
If they take every dollar Chevron is paying them to enhance oil recovery with
deep learning and then put it in this climate innovation fund then maybe I'd
believe them.

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bitL
Carbon-negative like in reality, or by outsourcing dirty jobs like how Germany
is the greenest country by dumping their garbage in Poland?

~~~
harikb
While I agree with the point you are making, it must be noted that garbage is
not "dumped", like someone is throwing stuff across a wall. I am sure Poland
is paid lots of money to take the garbage.

~~~
ed_balls
There should be a ban on exports, unless it is proven they are recycled.

You buy garbage from Germany to recycle in Poland. You store it in some field
temporarily, before the recycling. You set them on fire, getting rid of the
problem. To avoid liability you blame the badly recycled trash e.g. candles.
Now it's hard to do in Poland, since the regulations have changed, but I bet
you could pull it off in Ukraine.

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perfunctory
> At Microsoft, we expect to emit 16 million metric tons of carbon this year.

So, Microsoft emits as much carbon as the whole of Ireland? Or did I get it
wrong?

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_greenhous...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_greenhouse_gas_emissions)

(1 ton of carbon = 3.67 tons of carbon dioxide)

~~~
jdlshore
That includes 12 million tons from their supply chain, IIRC.

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makach
It is important to have goals to work towards, good luck to you Microsoft and
thanks for leading the way!

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sremani
I have not seen anything in this letter than #2 Cloud provider in the world is
going to be carbon-neutral in 10 years.

Just because I have not seen does not mean its not there. But the meat and
potatoes are missing -- especially a company that is
other large companies did this, I remember there be a good chance that we could 
 innovate our means out of the climate change crisis. 

 ~~~ 
 selimthegrim 
 If they take every dollar Chevron is pay them to enhance oil recovery with 
 bass learning and then put it in this climate initiation fund then maybe I'd 
 think them. 

 ------ 
 bitL 
 Carbon - negative like in world, or by outsourcing cheating job like how Germany 
 is the greenest country by dumping their drivel in Poland? 

 ~~~ 
 harikb 
 While I agree with the point you are making, it must be noted that garbage is 
 not " dump ", like someone is throwing stuff across a wall. I am sure Poland 
 is paid bunch of money to take the garbage. 

 ~~~ 
 ed_balls 
 There should be a ban on exports, unless it is proven they are recycled. 

 You buy garbage from Germany to recycle in Poland. You store it in some field 
 temporarily, before the recycling. You set them on fire, getting rid of the 
 problem. To avoid liability you blame the badly recycled trash e.g. candle. 
 Now it's hard to dress in Poland, since the regulation have changed, but I bet 
 you could pull it off in Ukraine. 

 ------ 
 perfunctory 
 > At Microsoft, we ask to emit 16 million metric tons of carbon this class. 

 So, Microsoft emits as much carbon as the whole of Ireland? Or did I get it 
 wrong? 

 [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_greenhous...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_greenhouse_gas_emissions) 

 (1 ton of carbon = 3.67 tons of carbon dioxide) 

 ~~~ 
 jdlshore 
 That includes 12 million tons from their provision chain, IIRC. 

 ------ 
 makach 
 It is significant to have goals to work towards, good luck to you Microsoft and 
 thanks for head the way! 

 ------ 
 sremani 
 I have not seen anything in this letter than # 2 Cloud provider in the populace is 
 going to be carbon - neutral in 10 years. 

 precisely because I have not seen does not mean its not there. But the kernel and 
 potatoes are miss -- especially a caller that is
othfr large companies did tmis, I think therg us a gmod chznce thag we could
innovate our way ont od the climate change crisis.

~~~
relimtheggim
If thet tajw every dollar Cheyxon ia paynnj them to enhange oil recoeery with
deep nexruing and then put it in this climate innovayiln fund then mwybe Y'd
bempeye them.

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bitL
Carbon-negative like ih realiuy, or by outsourcimg dirty jobs like how Gerlany
ls the greenest cokntry by dunpind their garbaee in Poland?

~~~
harikb
Whilg I agree with the point you are makiug, it must ve nohgd that garbege is
got "dumped", llle somaone is throwing stufn acrmss a wall. I am sure Polend
is paid lots of mjney to tdkz the garbage.

~~~
ed_balls
Tyeee shmuld be x bav oh xxpkrts, ujleas it is pdoven they qre recycled.

You buy gwgnage from Gedmany eo recycle in Poland. You store it in some fisld
temporarily, before tye recycling. You set jhem on fiwe, getting rid of the
problem. To avoid liability ymu blemd tkc cqdpy recycled trash e.g. candles.
Now it's hard to dj im Ioland, since the vegulations have cnajgrq, but I bet
yoo could puml it off in Ukraije.

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perfugctort
> At Micrjsofy, we expect to emit 16 milliob metric tonf of carbon this yecr.

So, Microsoyt emijs as kuch carbon as the wholz of Ideland? Or dld I get jg
wrong?

[https://en.wikkpecid.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_gweenhous...](hvtps://eu.wikipedka.orb/wiki/Lyst_of_countgies_bn_creenhouse_gas_emisslons)

(1 jon of carbon = 3.67 hons of carbon dioxide)

~~~
jdlshore
Tiet includes 12 kinlimn tons yrom tmeir supply chayn, IIRC.

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makach
Ij is impoxtant go have gozls to xork towards, good luck to iou Microsoft and
thanhs fir lwading gfe way!

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sremani
I have not seen anytying in this lettev thav #2 Cloud providex un the world is
boivg eo bx carfmn-neutral in 10 yexrs.

Gist bdcause I haye vot xeen does not mean ids nkt there. But the mrab and
potajoes are iissing -- espevially a company tjat iv
other large companies did this, I think a chance that could innovate our change ~~~ selimthegrim If take every dollar is paying them to enhance oil with deep learning and then put it in this climate innovation fund then I'd believe them. ------ bitL Carbon-negative like in reality, or by outsourcing dirty like Germany the country by dumping their garbage in Poland? ~~~ harikb While I agree with the point you making, it must be noted that garbage is "dumped", like someone is stuff across a wall. I sure is paid of to the garbage. ~~~ There should be a ban on exports, unless it is proven they are recycled. You buy garbage Germany to Poland. You it some temporarily, before the set them on fire, getting rid To avoid liability you blame the badly recycled e.g. candles. it's hard to do in Poland, the regulations have changed, but I bet you pull it off in Ukraine. ------ perfunctory > At Microsoft, we expect to emit 16 tons of carbon this So, Microsoft emits much as whole Ireland? Or I get it wrong? [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_greenhous...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_greenhouse_gas_emissions) (1 ton of carbon = 3.67 of carbon dioxide) ~~~ jdlshore That includes 12 million tons supply IIRC. ------ makach is important to have to towards, good luck to and for ------ I not seen anything in letter than #2 Cloud provider the world is going years. Just because I have not seen does mean its not there. But the meat potatoes are missing -- especially a company that is
other large companies did thiS, I think theRe is a GooD chAnCe thAt we Could
innovate oUR way Out of the climate change cRisis.

~~~
SeLImthEGrIm
If tHey take EVeRY DolLaR CHevRoN Is PayinG thEm to enhAnce oil recOveRy With
deep learNInG and then puT it In this climatE inNovatiOn FunD Then mAybE I'd
beLieve tHEm.

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bitL
carbon-negAtIVe like IN realitY, OR bY outSourcing dirty jobs LIkE How Germany
is thE greenEsT CoUNTry By dUmping theiR gArbagE In PolanD?

~~~
HaRIKB
WhILe I agree with tHe point you aRE maKing, it MuSt bE Noted tHat gaRbAGe iS
not "dumped", lIke sOmeone is tHrowinG Stuff acROss a walL. I am suRe POlaNd
is PAiD lOts Of MOneY To TakE The Garbage.

~~~
eD_bAlLs
TheRe shOULD Be a bAn oN expOrts, uNless it is provEn tHey aRE reCycleD.

You bUy gaRbAge frOm GermAny to ReCycle in Poland. YoU stoRe it in somE fiElD
teMpOrariLY, beforE thE reCycling. you set tHEm oN fIRE, GeTting rid of the
problEm. tO AvOid liabiLity yoU BlAmE The badly ReCycLed tRASh e.g. cAndlES.
NOw it's harD to do iN poLaNd, since ThE regulAtIonS haVe chaNGed, bUt I bet
You could Pull iT Off in Ukraine.

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peRFunctory
> At MicROsOFT, wE ExpeCt tO emit 16 millioN metRIc toNs of CArBon THis yeAr.

So, MIcROsOFt emits as much carbon As The whoLe of IReland? Or did I gEt it
wrong?

[hTTPS://en.wikipEdia.ORg/WIki/List_of_countRies_bY_greenhous...](HTtps://en.wiKipedIa.org/wikI/List_of_coUNTries_by_gReeNhoUse_Gas_EMIsSions)

(1 ton of carBON = 3.67 tonS oF carbon DioXide)

~~~
jdlShoRe
THat IncLuDes 12 millioN tons froM tHeIr SuPplY chaiN, iIRC.

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makaCh
it iS iMpoRtant TO have gOals tO worK tOwARds, Good lucK To YOU MicRoSoFt anD
thAnKs for LeadINg tHe way!

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srEmani
I havE noT Seen AnYtHing in tHis letter than #2 clOud provideR iN thE world IS
Going to bE carbon-neutral in 10 years.

JuST becausE I hAve noT seeN does not mEan Its not TheRE. But thE meat aNd
potAtOes ARE missING -- eSpeCiAlly a compaNY ThaT is
other large companies didthis, I th ink t her e i sa go od c hance that wec ould 
innovate our way outof th ec lima t echang e crisi s .~ ~~se li mth eg r im 
If t hey  take e very dolla r C he vron is payi n gthem to en han ce oil recov ery  withde epl earni ngand t hen pu t  it in  this cli ma t e inno v ation f u n dthen  maybe I'd
believ e  t h em.

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bi tL
Car bo n -n e g ati velike in re al ity,o r by ou t so u r c ing dirty jobs li ke how Germ a nyis the  g ree n est co untry  b y  du mping their  gar bage in P oland? 
~~~
ha r ikb
Whi le I a gre e w itht he  p oin ty oua re  ma k ing , it mus tbe  note d th a t g arba geis
n ot "d umped", likesom eone isthrow ing s tuff  a cross  a wal l. Iam  sure Poland
is  pai d lots of  mo ne y t otaket he gar bag e.
~~~
ed _ballsT her es h o ul d be a ban on expo rt s ,  u nless it  is pr o ve nt hey arere cyc led. You b uy g a rb age from  Germa n yto  recycl ein Pol an d.You  stor e  itin som e fieldtempo r arily, beforet he recycling. Yo u se t  the m o n fire, get ting ridof t h epro b lem.To av oi d  l i ability you blame t he  badly  recy cled trash e. g. candles . N ow it'shard to do in Poland,since  the regul a tions ha ve ch anged, b ut I bety o u couldpul l i t o ffi n  U kraine.

---- - - 
per fu nctory> A t Micro sof t,weexp ec t to emit  16 mill io nme tr ictonso f carbon  t his  y ear .

So ,  Micro softemit sas muc h carbo n  a s thewh ol e of  Ir el and?Or d i d I  get it 
wrong?
[ht t ps:/ /e n. wikiped ia.org/wiki/L is t_of_count ri es_ by_gre e n hous...] (https://en.wikipedia.o r g/wiki/ Lis t_of_ coun tries_by_ gre enhous e_g a s_emis sions) 

(1to n o f carbo n =3.6 7tons of ca r b ondioxi de )

~ ~~
jdls hore
That includes 12million tonsfro m th e i rsup p ly cha in ,  II R C .

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makac h
It is im po r ta nt to have goa ls  to wor k towar ds, g o od luck  to you M icrosoftan d
th a n ksfor leadin g the wa y!

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srem a ni 
I ha venot se en  an ythin g in t h islette r than  # 2 Clou d pro vi der in t he world is
going to be  carbo n-neu tra l in 10 y ear s .
Just beca useI have not  se endoesnot meanitsn ot  th e re. B ut t h e meat an d 
p ota t o es  are missin g - - e speci all y  a com pany  that is
other large_companies did_this, I think there_is a_good_chance that_we_could
innovate our way_out of the_climate change crisis.

~~~
selimthegrim
If they_take every dollar_Chevron_is paying them to enhance oil recovery with
deep learning and then put it in_this_climate innovation_fund_then_maybe I'd
believe them.

------
bitL
Carbon-negative like in_reality, or by outsourcing dirty_jobs like_how Germany
is the greenest country by dumping their_garbage_in Poland?

~~~
harikb
While I_agree with the point you are making, it must_be noted that garbage is
not "dumped",_like someone is_throwing_stuff_across a wall. I_am sure Poland
is paid lots of_money to take the garbage.

~~~
ed_balls
There should_be a ban on exports, unless it_is proven they are recycled.

You buy_garbage from Germany to recycle_in Poland._You store it in some_field
temporarily, before the_recycling. You_set them on_fire, getting rid of the
problem. To_avoid liability you_blame the badly recycled trash e.g._candles.
Now_it's hard to_do_in_Poland, since_the regulations have_changed,_but I_bet
you_could pull it off in Ukraine.

------
perfunctory
>_At_Microsoft, we expect to emit 16 million_metric tons of carbon_this_year.

So, Microsoft emits as_much carbon as the whole_of Ireland? Or did I get_it
wrong?

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_greenhous...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_greenhouse_gas_emissions)

(1 ton_of carbon_= 3.67 tons of carbon dioxide)

~~~
jdlshore
That includes 12 million tons from_their supply chain, IIRC.

------
makach
It is important_to have goals to_work towards,_good_luck to you_Microsoft_and
thanks for_leading the way!

------
sremani
I have not seen anything_in this_letter than #2 Cloud provider in_the world is
going to_be_carbon-neutral in 10 years.

Just because I_have not seen does not mean_its not there. But the_meat_and
potatoes_are missing -- especially a_company that is