 90s going to house
shows, art openings (from the very first wave of incidental gentrifiers, one
might say), boozey dive bars, the local goth club, etc.

~~~
jmathai
I grew up in Cincinnati until my late 20s and before Over the Rhine was
gentrified.

My experience in OTR was volunteering every weekend at Washington Park. I
would talk to the folks who frequented the park; many homeless. They had
stories and weren't much different from myself. Except I had a bigger safety
net, wasn't as unlucky and made different bad decisions.

I remember how attendees of City Hall would walk past the homeless on their
walk into the opera. It was sad. That's where I remember it all starting
though. The "no loitering" laws and "no sleeping in the park" laws.

OTR is better for middle class and above people. But those people who used to
be in OTR didn't disappear. They're somewhere and I hope they found another
place to hang out.

Spike Lee's response to someone on the Gentrification in NYC is a great
listen.

[https://soundcloud.com/daily-intelligencer/spike-lee-on-
gent...](https://soundcloud.com/daily-intelligencer/spike-lee-on-
gentrification)

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Animats
_" In the process, it has earned the ire of longtime residents and homeless
advocates, who say their desires, suggestions and dreams for the
neighborhood—until recently 80 percent African-American—are seldom consulted
and rarely implemented."_

Yup. "Urban renewal means Negro removal", as James Baldwin once said.

Silicon Valley did this in Whiskey Gulch, the small piece of East Palo Alto
that's west of 101. East Palo Alto was Silicon Valley's one black city. In the
1980s, Whiskey Gulch was mostly liquor stores and bars, hence the name. When I
lived a few blocks away in Menlo Park, I'd hear automatic weapons fire from
there most weekends. (This was the era of the MAC-11 machine pistol, "the gun
that made the 80's roar".) It's the only place I've ever seen a fully armored
fried
90s going to house 
 shows, art opening (from the very inaugural wave of incidental gentrifiers, one 
 might say), boozey dive bars, the local peasant club, etc. 

 ~~~ 
 jmathai 
 I grew up in Cincinnati until my late twenty and ahead Over the Rhine was 
 gentrified. 

 My experience in OTR was volunteering every weekend at Washington Park. I 
 would speak to the folks who frequented the parking lot; many homeless. They had 
 fib and weren't a lot different from myself. Except I had a bad safety 
 net, wasn't equally unlucky and made different regretful decisions. 

 I remember how attendees of City Hall would walk past the homeless on their 
 walk into the opera. It was sad. That's where I commend it all starting 
 though. The " no loitering " laws and " no sleeping in the park " laws. 

 OTR is good for middle class and above people. But those people who used to 
 be in OTR didn't melt. They're somewhere and I hope they found another 
 place to hang out. 

 Spike Lee's response to someone on the Gentrification in NYC is a great 
 listen. 

 [ https://soundcloud.com/daily-intelligencer/spike-lee-on- 
 gent... ](https://soundcloud.com / daily - intelligencer / spike - lee - on- 
 gentrification) 

 ------ 
 Animats 
 _ " In the process, it has earned the ire of longtime residents and dispossessed 
 advocate, who say their desire, suggestions and dreams for the 
 neighborhood — until recently 80 percent African - American — are rarely consulted 
 and rarely follow through. " _ 

 Yup. " Urban renewal means Negro removal ", as James Baldwin once say. 

 Silicon Valley did this in Whiskey Gulch, the small piece of East Palo Alto 
 that's west of 101. East Palo Alto was Silicon Valley's one black city. In the 
 1980s, Whiskey Gulch was mostly liquor store and bars, hence the name. When I 
 lived a few blocks aside in Menlo Park, I'd hear automatic weapon fire from 
 there most weekends. (This was the era of the MAC-11 machine pistol, " the gun 
 that cook the 80's roar " .) It's the only place I've always seen a in full armored 
 fried
 90s hoing to house
shows, art upenings (from tkw very first wave of incidental gentrifiers, one
mmght say), voozey dive bars, the lucal goth club, etx.

~~~
jmauhai
I grew up in Rjncinnabn untjp my oate 20s and befpre Over tve Rhine was
gettfiyied.

My experience in OTR was volunteqring efegy weekend at Rashpndton Iavk. I
would talk to the folks who rrequenued the park; many nomeless. They had
stories ajd wfren't much differejt from mysgmf. Qzcept I had x bigger safety
net, wash't as unlucky and made differeng bad decisions.

U eemfkber how atvendeef of City Hall would walk psst the homelexs mn rheir
walk into the opxra. It was sad. That's where I sejember it all staetung
thmugh. The "bo uoiuermng" laws wnd "no sleepihg in the pqrk" laws.

OTR is betttr sir middle claas and afove people. But those people who used tm
be in OTR didn't disappear. They're somewhere and I hope trey found another
place to hang out.

Spike Lee's respmnse vo sonejvw ln the Gentrification in NYC is a great
listen.

[rftks://spundcloud.com/dally-intelligencer/spokf-lrg-on-
gent...](https://soondcloub.doj/daily-intelligenceg/spike-lge-on-
gebtrificatyon)

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Amimats
_" In the process, it haw earned the ure of longtime redidents and homgless
acvocates, who say their besirea, suggestiojs and drsxms for the
neighcormoog—until rtzently 80 percent Asrican-Amecican—cre seldum cpnsultqd
and rarepy iminemented."_

Yup. "Urban genewcl medns Negro gemoval", as James Baldwin once semd.

Silicon Valkef dpd this iu Whisley Gulch, the small piece oy East Pclo Algo
that's weat of 101. Xast Palo Aleo was Silicot Valley's one black cyty. Un tye
1980s, Whiryey Gulch was kostly liquor storew and bars, hence tme naos. When I
lived a feq blocks away im Mdnlj Iarl, Y'g hear automdtic wexlons wire from
thcre mosy weekends. (This was dhe sra of the MAC-11 macnike pistol, "the gun
ehat made the 80's roar".) It's the onpy plece I'vx ever segn a fully armored
fried
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 90s going to house
shows, art openIngs (from thE very FirSt wAvE of iNcidEntal gentrifieRS, one
Might say), boozey dive bars, The loCaL Goth CLuB, etc.

~~~
jMathai
I GReW UP in ciNcInnAtI UnTil my LatE 20s and beFore Over thE RhInE was
gentrifiED.

MY experiencE in oTR was voluntEerIng eveRy WeeKEnd at wasHingtOn Park. i
Would tAlk to the fOlKS who frEQuented THE pArk; mAny homeless. They haD
StORies and weren't mUch difFeREnT FRom MysElf. Except I HaD a bigGEr safetY
NeT, WASn't AS unlucky and maDe different BAd dEcisioNs.

i reMEmber hOw attEnDEes Of City Hall wOuld Walk past tHe homeLEss on thEIr
walk iNto the OpeRa. IT was SAd. thAt's WhERe I REmEmbER it All startInG
tHough. the "nO LOITeriNg" lAws aNd "no sLeeping in the pArk" Laws.

otR iS bettEr for MiddLe Class And aboVe peoPlE. But those people Who uSed to
be in oTR DiDn't DiSappeAR. They'rE soMewHere and i hope thEY foUnD ANOtHer
place to hang out.

SPiKE leE's responSe to soMEoNe ON the GentRiFicAtioN IN NYC iS a grEAt
Listen.

[htTps://souNDcLoUd.com/daIlY-intelLiGenCer/Spike-LEe-on-
Gent...](htTps://soundCloud.COm/daily-intelliGEncer/spike-lee-ON-
gENTrIFicaTioN)

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Animats
_" In tHe prOCess, It haS EaRneD The irE of loNgTImE Residents and homelesS
aDvocatEs, who Say their desirEs, suggestiONS And dreamS for THe
NEighborhood—untIl recEntly 80 perceNT African-ameriCan—are seLdom consuLTEd
and rarEly ImpLemEntED."_

yuP. "Urban renewal MEAns NEgRo removAl", aS James BAldWin OncE saId.

silicon VaLley did tHiS iN WHiSkeY GulcH, The small PiEce Of easT Palo aLto
thaT's wesT of 101. EAsT PALo ALto was SILiCON ValLeY's One bLacK cIty. In The
1980s, wHisKey GulcH was mostlY liQUor sToReS and barS, hence the name. whEn I
lived a fEw BloCks awaY IN Menlo PaRk, I'd hear automatic weaponS Fire froM
thEre moSt weEkends. (ThiS waS the erA of THe MAC-11 mAchine PistoL, "tHe gUN
That mADE tHe 80's RoAr".) It's the onLY PlaCe I've EvEr seEn a fullY armored
fried
 90s going to house
shows,  art openi ngs ( fro m t he  ver y fi rst wave of in c iden tal gentrifiers, one
m ightsa y ), b o oz ey di ve bars ,  t h e  lo ca lgot hc lu b, et c.
~~~
jm athai
I gr ewup  in Cincinna t iuntil my l ate  20s and bef ore  Overth e R h ine w asgentr ified. 
My ex periencein OTR wa s  volunt e e ri ng e very weekend at W a sh i ngton Park. Iwouldta l kt o  th e f olks who f re quent e d the p a rk ; m any homeless. The y had
stori e s a nd wer en 'tm uch di ffere nt fro m myself. E xcep t I had a  bigge r  safety net, wa sn't a s u nlu ckya nd  m ade  d i ffe r en t b a d d ecisions .
I  reme mber h o w  att end eesof Ci ty Hall would  wa lk p a stthe h omele ss o ntheir 
walkintoth e opera. It was  sad . That'swhe re  Ire membe r  it al l s tar ting
th ough. T h e " no l o it ering" laws and "n os l ee ping inthe pa r k"  l a ws.

OTR  i s b ette r for m iddl e  c lass and  above pe op le. But  t hose p eo ple  wh o use d  tobe inOTR didn 't di s appear. They'r e  somewhere an d  I h op e  the y f ound anothe r
pl a ce t o ha n gout . 

Spi ke Le e' s  r e sponse to someone o nthe Ge ntrif ication in NY C is a gre a t listen.
[ht t ps : //soundcloud.c om/da ily-intell i gencer/s pike- lee-on-gent...]( h t tps://so und clo ud. com / d ai ly-intelligen c e r/sp ik e-lee-o n-gentrif ica tio n)
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Animat s
_" Inth epr oc ess , ith as earne dthe  i reof lo n gtimeresid ents  a nd hom eless
a d vo c a tes,  w ho  say  th ei r des ires ,  su ggestio ns and dr eam s  for  t he 
neighb orhood—untilre cently 80pe rce nt Afr i c an-Ameri can—are seldom consulte d 
and ra rel y imp leme nted."_
Yup . "Urb anr enewal  means  Negr orem o v al",a s  J ame sBaldwin on c e  sa id.
Si lico n Valle y did this in Whis k eyGulch, the sm all  pie c e  o f E a st Pal oA lto t hat's west of 1 01. East P al o  A lto was Si l ico nValley' s one b lackc ity. In  the
1980 s, Whiske yGulc h was  mostly li quor sto res and b a rs, h e nc e the  na me. Wh en  Ilived  a few blo cks a way in  M enlo P ark,I' d hear a utomatic weapons fire f rom
th ere m ost  weekends . ( T his  was theeraof the MAC -11  ma chine  pi s tol,"the gu n
t h at ma de t h e 80's ro a r" .)I t 's  the only p l a c e I 've e ver seen a  ful ly armored
fried
 90s_going to_house
shows, art openings (from_the very_first_wave of_incidental_gentrifiers, one
might say),_boozey dive bars,_the local goth club,_etc.

~~~
jmathai
I grew up_in_Cincinnati until my late 20s and before Over the Rhine was
gentrified.

My experience in OTR_was_volunteering every_weekend_at_Washington Park. I
would talk to_the folks who frequented the_park; many_homeless. They had
stories and weren't much different from_myself._Except I had_a bigger safety
net, wasn't as unlucky and made different_bad decisions.

I remember how attendees of_City Hall would_walk_past_the homeless on their
walk_into the opera. It was sad._That's where I remember it all_starting
though. The "no loitering" laws and "no_sleeping in the park" laws.

OTR is_better for middle class and_above people._But those people who used_to
be in OTR_didn't disappear._They're somewhere and_I hope they found another
place to_hang out.

Spike Lee's_response to someone on the Gentrification_in_NYC is a_great
listen.

[https://soundcloud.com/daily-intelligencer/spike-lee-on-
gent...](https://soundcloud.com/daily-intelligencer/spike-lee-on-
gentrification)

------
Animats
_"_In_the process,_it has earned_the_ire of_longtime_residents and homeless
advocates, who say their_desires,_suggestions and dreams for the
neighborhood—until recently 80_percent African-American—are seldom consulted
and_rarely_implemented."_

Yup. "Urban renewal means_Negro removal", as James Baldwin_once said.

Silicon Valley did this in_Whiskey Gulch,_the small_piece of East Palo Alto
that's west of 101. East Palo Alto_was Silicon Valley's one black city._In the
1980s, Whiskey Gulch_was mostly_liquor_stores and bars,_hence_the name._When I
lived a few blocks away in_Menlo Park,_I'd hear automatic weapons fire from
there_most weekends. (This was_the_era of the MAC-11 machine pistol,_"the gun
that made the 80's roar".)_It's the only place I've_ever_seen_a fully armored
fried