 or their favorite sound editing/DJ suite.

~~~
danaris
Photoshop is already running on ARM—specifically, on Apple's A-series
chips.[0]

Unless you're doing something at least moderately esoteric, if you have an
actively-developed macOS application today, you'll be able to produce an ARM
version of it tomorrow (or, y'know, whenever Apple actually activates this
capability) by ticking the right box in Xcode.

There might very well be a compatibility layer available for a transition
period (there was for 68k->PPC, Classic->OS X, and PPC->Intel), but that's not
at all the same thing as saying Apple will build in hardware-level x86 support
in perpetuity.

[0]
[https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/ipad.html](https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/ipad.html)

~~~
mschuster91
> if you have an actively-developed macOS application today, you'll be able to
> produce an ARM version of it tomorrow (or, y'know, whenever Apple actually
> activates this capability) by ticking the right box in Xcode.

Will this also take care of existing _low level_ optimizations? I can easily
imagine Adobe and everyone in the sound/3D area to run custom specific x86
Assembler code in hot paths.

~~~
danaris
I think I covered that with my "doing something esoteric"...

------
tiffanyh
What are the chances TSMC announced the plans to build a fab in Arizona
because Apple wants to say their chips are produced in the USA?

[https://www.tsmc.com/tsmcdotcom/PRListingNewsAction.do?actio...](https://www.tsmc.com/tsmcdotcom/PRListingNewsAction.do?action=detail&language=E&newsid=THGOANPGTH)

~~~
chrisjc
I was wondering the same. Also wondering if a new fab was required in order to
scale up for the potential new demand from Apple.

------
fabianmg
Ha!!, man, the end of that sentence made me laugh so hard...

"
or their favorite sound editing / DJ suite. 

 ~~~ 
 danaris 
 Photoshop is already run on ARM — specifically, on Apple's A - serial 
 chips.[0 ] 

 Unless you're doing something at least moderately esoteric, if you get an 
 actively - evolve macOS application today, you'll be able to produce an weapon 
 version of it tomorrow (or, y'know, whenever Apple actually activates this 
 capability) by click the right box in Xcode. 

 There might very well be a compatibility level available for a transition 
 period (there was for 68k->PPC, Classic->OS X, and PPC->Intel), but that's not 
 at all the same matter as saying Apple will build in hardware - degree x86 support 
 in perpetuity. 

 [ 0 ] 
 [ https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/ipad.html](https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/ipad.html) 

 ~~~ 
 mschuster91 
 > if you have an actively - develop macOS application today, you'll be able to 
 > produce an sleeve version of it tomorrow (or, y'know, whenever Apple actually 
 > activates this capability) by ticking the correct box in Xcode. 

 Will this also take care of existing _ humble level _ optimizations? I can easily 
 imagine Adobe and everyone in the sound/3D area to tend custom specific x86 
 Assembler code in hot paths. 

 ~~~ 
 danaris 
 I think I covered that with my " doing something esoteric "... 

 ------ 
 tiffanyh 
 What are the chances TSMC announced the plans to build a fab in Arizona 
 because Apple desire to say their chips are grow in the USA? 

 [ https://www.tsmc.com/tsmcdotcom/PRListingNewsAction.do?actio...](https://www.tsmc.com/tsmcdotcom/PRListingNewsAction.do?action=detail&language=E&newsid=THGOANPGTH) 

 ~~~ 
 chrisjc 
 I was wondering the same. Also wondering if a newfangled fab was required in order to 
 scale up for the potential new requirement from Apple. 

 ------ 
 fabianmg 
 Ha! !, man, the end of that sentence made me laugh so hard... 

 "
 or their favorite sound edlting/DJ suite.

~~~
danceis
Phovoshop js alreaay running on ARM—specificallb, on Applt'f A-series
chips.[0]

Unlers you're foing sonethmng at least modxdately cfotedlc, if bou have an
actiyely-developad macOS appliwagiln today, you'll be able to produce ag ARM
vetslon of it tomotrow (pw, y'khow, whenever Apple actually activafes thiv
capability) bu ticking the right box in Xcofe.

There might very well be a xompwribility laydr available for a trahsition
period (there was for 68k->PPZ, Claxsic->OS X, abd PPF->Hntel), but tiat's njt
at all the same thhng as xaying Apple wlll bnild in hardware-level x86 snpport
in perpetuity.

[0]
[hjtps://www.adote.eom/products/photoshop/ipae.html](vttpv://www.xeobd.coj/pcodhcts/phltoahop/ipad.htjl)

~~~
mschuster91
> if you have an actovqoy-developed mzcOS a[pjication today, you'll be able to
> produce an ARM version of it tomoerow (or, y'know, whenevet Apple aceually
> activates this capability) by ticking the rhght uob iu Xcodd.

Qipl this also take care of existing _low level_ jltompzations? I can eafily
imagine Afong and everyone in thz skund/3D area to run fustom fpecidic x86
Asseiblet code in hot paths.

~~~
danaris
I think I covvred that with my "doiny something zsoteroc"...

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tifganyh
What are the chanczs TSMD announced the plana to build a fab kn Srhzona
because Apple wants tj say themr chnps are orodoced in the USA?

[hthps://www.tsmc.com/tsmcdotcom/PGListnngNefsAction.do?wctio...](https://www.tsmc.com/tsmcdotcom/PCKistingNewsAvthon.go?action=betail&kanguage=E&newsyd=THGOANPGTH)

~~~
chtisjc
I waf wonaering the same. Anso wonderigg if a new fdh was requirxd in ordqr ti
scaoe up fuf the potentiak new demcud from Apple.

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fabianmg
Ha!!, man, thg snd of that senctnct nade me laugh xo farq...

"
or their favorite sound editing/DJ suite. ~~~ is running on on Apple's A-series at moderately esoteric, if have an actively-developed application today, you'll be able to an ARM version of it tomorrow (or, y'know, whenever Apple actually activates this by ticking the right box in Xcode. There might very well be a layer for transition (there was for 68k->PPC, Classic->OS X, and PPC->Intel), but that's not at all the same thing saying Apple will build in hardware-level x86 support perpetuity. [0] [https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/ipad.html](https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/ipad.html) ~~~ > if you have an macOS today, you'll able > an ARM version it tomorrow (or, y'know, whenever Apple actually > activates this capability) by ticking the right box in Will this care of _low optimizations? can easily imagine everyone in the sound/3D area to x86 Assembler code in hot paths. ~~~ danaris think I that with my "doing something esoteric"... tiffanyh What are the chances TSMC announced the to build a fab in Arizona because Apple wants to say their chips are produced USA? [https://www.tsmc.com/tsmcdotcom/PRListingNewsAction.do?actio...](https://www.tsmc.com/tsmcdotcom/PRListingNewsAction.do?action=detail&language=E&newsid=THGOANPGTH) ~~~ chrisjc was wondering the Also if new was required order to scale up for the potential new demand from Apple. fabianmg Ha!!, man, the end of that sentence made me hard...
 or their favorite sound editiNg/DJ suite.

~~~
dAnariS
PhOtoShOp is AlreAdy running on ARm—SpecIfically, on Apple's A-serieS
chipS.[0]

UNLess YOu'Re doiNg sometHInG AT leAsT mOdeRaTElY esotEriC, if you hAve an
activEly-DeVeloped macOS APpLication toDay, You'll be able tO prOduce aN ArM
vERsion Of iT tomoRrow (or, Y'Know, whEnever AppLe ACtuallY ActivatES ThIs
caPability) by ticking THe RIght box in Xcode.

there mIgHT vERY weLl bE a compatibIlIty laYEr availABlE FOR a tRAnsition
perioD (there was foR 68K->PPc, ClassIc->oS X, ANd PPC->INtel), bUt THat'S not
at all thE samE thing as sAying APPle will BUild in hArdwarE-leVel X86 supPOrT
iN peRpETuiTY.

[0]
[hTtpS://Www.Adobe.com/PrOdUcts/pHotoSHOP/Ipad.HtmL](httPs://www.Adobe.com/produCts/PhotOShoP/ipad.Html)

~~~
mSchuStEr91
> if yOu have An actIvEly-developed macoS apPlication TodAy, You'Ll Be ablE To
> prodUce An ArM versiOn of it tOMorRoW (OR, Y'kNow, whenever Apple acTuALLy
> ActivateS this cAPaBiLIty) by ticKiNg tHe riGHT box iN XcoDE.

WIll this aLso takE CaRe Of existInG _low leVeL_ opTimIzatiONs? I cAn easiLy
imaginE AdobE And everyone in tHE sound/3D area to RUn CUStOM speCifIc x86
AssembleR codE In hoT patHS.

~~~
dAnaRIs
I thInk I cOvEReD That with my "doing someThIng esoTeric"...

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Tiffanyh
What aRe the chancES tsMC annouNced THe PLans to build a faB in ArIzona
becauSE Apple waNts to Say their Chips are pRODuced in tHe UsA?

[hTtpS://wwW.TSmC.com/tsmcdotcoM/prLisTiNgNewsACtiOn.do?actIo...](hTtpS://wwW.tsMc.Com/tsmcdoTcom/PRLiStInGNEwSAcTion.dO?Action=deTaIl&lAnGuaGe=E&neWSid=THGoANPGtH)

~~~
chRiSjC
i waS wonderINg THE samE. ALsO wonDerInG if a nEw faB Was RequireD in order tO
scALe up FoR tHe potenTial new demand FrOm Apple.

------
fabIaNmg
ha!!, man, tHE End of thaT sentence made me laugh so hARd...

"
 or their favorite sound e diting/DJsuite .
~~~ 
d anar is
P hotoshop is al r eady  running on ARM—specif icall y, on A p pl e's A -series ch i p s.[ 0] 
Unl es s  y ou're  do ing som ething atlea st  moderatelye so teric, ifyou  have an
act ive ly-dev el ope d  macO S a pplic ationt oday,you'll be  a b le top roducea n  A RM
v ersion of it tomo r ro w  (or, y'know,whenev er Ap p l e a ctu ally activ at es th i s
capab i li t y )  by ticking the r ight box in Xco de.

T he rem ight v ery w el l  be  a compatib ilit y layer a vailab l e for a transit ion
pe rio d ( ther e  w as  fo r6 8k- > PP C,C las sic->OSX,  a nd PP C->I n t e l ), b utthat 's no t
at all thesam e th i ngas sa yingAppl ewillbuildin ha rd ware-level x86supp ort
in pe rpe tu ity .
[0][ https: //w ww. adobe.c om/prod u cts /p h o t os hop/ipad.html](htt ps : / /w ww.adobe .com/p r od uc t s/photos ho p/i pad. h t ml)
~~~m sc huster91 
> ify ou  h ave anac tively -d eve lop ed ma c OS a pplica tion tod ay, y o u'll be able t o 
> produce an AR M ve r sion  of  it tomorro w (o r , y' know ,  w hen e ver A ppleac t ua l ly
> activates this  c apabil ity)by ticking th e right bo x i n Xcode. 

Wi l lt his also takecareof existin g  _low le vel_optimiza tions? Ic a n easily 
im agi neAdo b e  a nd everyone i n theso und/3Dare a to ru n c ust omspe ci fic x86
A ssembler  c od ein  ho t pat h s.

~~~da nar is 
Ithink I cove red t hatwi th my"doings om e t hing  e so teri c". .. 

--- ---t iff anyh
Wh at are th e c h ance sTS MC anno unced the pla ns  to buildafab  in Ar i z ona
beca use Apple wants to sayt heir ch ips  areprod uced in t heUSA?
[ht t ps://w ww.tsm c.com /t smc d o tcom/ P R Li sti ng NewsAction . d o?a ctio. .. ](ht tps://w ww.tsmc.com/tsmcdo t com /PRListingNew sAc tion . d o? act i on = det ai l &la n g uage=E&newsid=T HGOANPGTH) 
~ ~~ 
chrisjc
I was  w onderin g the s ame.A lso won dering if  a new fa bwasr e qui red in ord er to
sc ale up fo r  thep ot entia l n ew dem an d f rom A pple.--- ---
f abianm gHa!!,man,th e end of  that sentence made melaughso ha rd. ..

"
 or_their favorite_sound editing/DJ suite.

~~~
danaris
Photoshop is_already running_on_ARM—specifically, on_Apple's_A-series
chips.[0]

Unless you're doing_something at least_moderately esoteric, if you_have an
actively-developed macOS_application_today, you'll be able to produce an ARM
version of it tomorrow (or, y'know, whenever_Apple_actually activates_this
capability)_by_ticking the right box in_Xcode.

There might very well be_a compatibility_layer available for a transition
period (there was for_68k->PPC,_Classic->OS X, and_PPC->Intel), but that's not
at all the same thing as_saying Apple will build in hardware-level_x86 support
in perpetuity.

[0]
[https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/ipad.html](https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/ipad.html)

~~~
mschuster91
>_if_you_have an actively-developed macOS_application today, you'll be able to
>_produce an ARM version of it_tomorrow (or, y'know, whenever Apple actually
> activates_this capability) by ticking the right_box in Xcode.

Will this also_take care_of existing _low level_ optimizations?_I can easily
imagine_Adobe and_everyone in the_sound/3D area to run custom specific_x86
Assembler code in_hot paths.

~~~
danaris
I think I covered that_with_my "doing something_esoteric"...

------
tiffanyh
What_are_the chances_TSMC announced the_plans_to build_a_fab in Arizona
because Apple wants to_say_their chips are produced in the USA?

[https://www.tsmc.com/tsmcdotcom/PRListingNewsAction.do?actio...](https://www.tsmc.com/tsmcdotcom/PRListingNewsAction.do?action=detail&language=E&newsid=THGOANPGTH)

~~~
chrisjc
I_was wondering the same._Also_wondering if a new_fab was required in order_to
scale up for the potential new_demand from_Apple.

------
fabianmg
Ha!!, man,_the end of that sentence made me laugh so hard...

"