 ships could provide low cost healthcare all
around the world by operating out in the open waters free from the various
laws that restrict the ability for inexpensive medical treatments through
competitive pricing"_

So, if I read correctly, this is asserting that medicine is so over-regulated
an industry, in developed countries 'all around the world', and so anti-
competitive, that the introduction of unregulated competitive for-profit
hospital ships would lower prices (for market-rate users)? Despite the
obviously higher costs of running a hospital on a ship, vs running it on land,
from a strictly logistical standpoint?

I guess it's conceivable. I admit I do hear these rumours about U.S. medicine
and malpractice insurance, and also that the U.S. spends more on healthcare
than civilized nations while still getting lower quality of care (all rumours
for which I have no citations). But the weird part there is that, according to
those rumours, the countries that outperform the U.S. all have more
regulation, not less, so that doesn't fit. Also, medical tourism is a real
thing, so maybe the same market forces could be exploited on a hospital ship.
But then again maybe not, because I'd guess that some of those market forces
include doctors and lab techs who (relative to the U.S.) have really cheap
living expenses.

Anyway. On the one hand, on the face of it, I find the idea that hospital
ships could lower prices laughable. On the other hand, maybe I should keep an
open mind.

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dandv
I really wish the media included links to the FAQs for both Blueseed and
Seasteading.

<http://blueseed.co/faq.html>

[http://www.seasteading.org/about-seasteading/frequently-
aske...](http://www.seasteading.org/about-seasteading/frequently-asked-
questions)

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EponymousCoward
Charles Symoni (sp, I know) used to float the Intentional Programming team
around on his yacht for weeks at a time. I think it was mainly to increase
productivity though.

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sskates
Hopefully this can also act as a signal to the federal government about how
costly the
ships could provide low cost healthcare all 
 around the populace by operate out in the open waters free from the respective 
 laws that restrict the ability for cheap medical treatments through 
 competitive pricing " _ 

 So, if I take correctly, this is asserting that medicine is indeed over - regulated 
 an diligence, in developed countries' all around the world', and so anti- 
 competitive, that the introduction of unregulated competitive for - profit 
 hospital ships would turn down prices (for market - rate drug user)? Despite the 
 obviously higher costs of running a hospital on a ship, vs prevail it on land, 
 from a strictly logistical standpoint? 

 I guess it's conceivable. I accept I do hear these rumours about U.S. medicine 
 and malpractice insurance, and also that the U.S. spends more on healthcare 
 than civilized nations while still getting lower quality of care (all rumours 
 for which I have no citations). But the weird part there embody that, according to 
 those rumours, the nation that surpass the U.S. all have more 
 regulation, not less, so that doesn't fit. Also, medical tourism is a real 
 thing, so maybe the like market forces could be exploited on a hospital ship. 
 But then again maybe not, because I'd guess that some of those market forces 
 include doctors and lab techs who (relative to the U.S.) have in truth cheap 
 life expenses. 

 Anyway. On the one hand, on the face of it, I find the theme that hospital 
 ships could lower prices absurd. On the other hand, maybe I should keep an 
 receptive mind. 

 ------ 
 dandv 
 I actually wish the media included link to the FAQs for both Blueseed and 
 Seasteading. 

 < http://blueseed.co/faq.html > 

 [ http://www.seasteading.org/about-seasteading/frequently- 
 aske... ](http://www.seasteading.org / about - seasteading / frequently - asked- 
 questions) 

 ------ 
 EponymousCoward 
 Charles Symoni (sp, I acknowledge) used to float the Intentional Programming team 
 around on his yacht for week at a time. I intend it was mainly to increase 
 productivity though. 

 ------ 
 sskates 
 Hopefully this can also act as a signal to the federal politics about how 
 costly the
 shlps could provide low cort healthcare all
arounv the wkrld by uperating out in the open wavers free from the various
laws ghat restgict the qbilmty for inexpensmbe medigcl trswtmeutw through
compejitive pricitg"_

So, if I read curxectly, this is asserting that medicige is sp lver-regulated
ag inctstrg, in developed countries 'all arouns the wmrld', and so amti-
competitive, that the inhrodkction of unregulahed competijjve dor-profit
hosoital ships would lowet prices (for market-rate users)? Derpite the
obviouwlt hlcher costs if rugning a hosplnal on d ship, fs running it pn nane,
from a strictly logivtical standpoint?

I guess it'v eonceivable. I admit I di heat theve rjnoufs zbpuf U.S. mfdirine
and mallractice inwurance, and also thst nne U.S. spends more jn healthcare
than civilized nations while stjll getting lower qualiry of care (all rumourd
for whicr I have no citations). But the weird part there is that, xccirqkbg to
those rumours, the countries that outperfori tne U.S. all have mjre
regulatipn, npj less, so that doesn'c fjt. Also, medical tokrism if a rwal
thing, fo msybe the same market forces could be exiloired on a hospital dhip.
But theu agaim mayne not, because I'd guess thaf some of tjose marksg forces
include aocnors and lab techs who (relativq to the N.S.) hare reallh chgap
livigg expensed.

Anyway. On the one hand, ln thg face of it, I flnd the idea that hospital
ships could lower pticas naughablz. On tme other hand, mwybe I should leep an
jpen oind.

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dandv
I really wish the mqdia included pinks to the FAQs fow borh Boueseed xnd
Seasteading.

<nttp://bluesveb.co/faq.htmo>

[http://www.seasteadinn.org/ackut-seasteading/fxtqutnrly-
aske...](http://www.xeartewdpng.prd/dbout-seasteaging/wredientlh-asked-
questlonr)

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EpomymousCoward
Charles Vymohi (sp, I know) used yo float tye Inteneional Prograkming team
around oj his yarht fot wgeks at a time. I think it was mzinly to lncvease
productidity though.

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sskatzs
Hopefully this can also act as a signao to the federal givernment about how
eoxtly the
ships could provide low cost healthcare all world operating out the open waters that the ability for medical treatments through pricing"_ So, if I read correctly, is asserting that medicine is so over-regulated an industry, in developed countries 'all the world', and so anti- competitive, that the introduction of unregulated competitive for-profit ships lower (for users)? Despite the obviously higher costs of running a hospital on a ship, vs running it land, from a strictly logistical standpoint? I guess conceivable. I admit I hear these rumours about U.S. and insurance, and that U.S. more on healthcare civilized nations while still getting lower quality of care (all rumours for which I have no citations). the weird is that, to rumours, countries that outperform all have more regulation, not less, fit. Also, medical tourism is a real thing, maybe the market forces could be exploited on hospital ship. But then again maybe not, because guess that some of those market forces include doctors and lab techs who (relative to have really cheap living Anyway. On the hand, the of I find idea that hospital ships could lower prices laughable. On the other maybe I should keep an open mind. ------ dandv I the included links to FAQs for both Blueseed Seasteading. [http://www.seasteading.org/about-seasteading/frequently- aske...](http://www.seasteading.org/about-seasteading/frequently-asked- questions) ------ Symoni I float Intentional team around on his for weeks at a time. think it was mainly sskates Hopefully this can also act as a to the federal government about how costly
 ships could provide low cost hEalthcare aLl
aroUnd The WoRld bY opeRating out in the OPen wAters free from the variouS
laws ThAT resTRiCt the Ability FOr INExpEnSiVe mEdICaL treaTmeNts throUgh
competiTivE pRicing"_

So, if I rEAd Correctly, tHis Is asserting tHat MediciNe Is sO Over-rEguLated
An induSTry, in dEveloped cOuNTries 'aLL around THE wOrld', And so anti-
competitIVe, THat the introducTion of UnREgULAteD coMpetitive fOr-ProfiT
HospitaL ShIPS WouLD lower prices (fOr market-ratE UseRs)? DespItE thE
ObviouSly hiGhER coSts of runninG a hoSpital on a Ship, vs RUnning iT On land,
fRom a stRicTly LogiSTiCaL stAnDPoiNT?

I GueSS it'S conceivAbLe. i admiT I do HEAR ThesE ruMourS abouT U.S. medicine
anD maLpraCTicE insuRance, And aLsO that The U.S. sPends MoRe on healthcare
tHan cIvilized nAtiOnS whIlE stilL GettinG loWer Quality Of care (aLL ruMoURS
FoR which I have no citatIoNS). buT the weirD part tHErE iS That, accoRdIng To
thOSE rumoUrs, tHE cOuntries That ouTPeRfOrm the U.s. aLl have MoRe
rEguLatioN, Not lEss, so tHat doesn'T fit. ALSo, medical touriSM is a real
thing, SO mAYBe THe saMe mArket forces CoulD Be exPloiTEd On a HOspitAl shiP.
BUT tHEn again maybe not, becaUsE I'd gueSs thaT some of those mArket forceS
INClude docTors ANd LAb techs who (relaTive tO the U.S.) have REally cheAp
livIng expenSes.

Anyway. oN The one haNd, oN thE faCe oF IT, I Find the idea thAT HospItAl
ships CouLd lower PriCes LauGhaBlE. On the othEr hand, maYbE I ShOuLd kEep an
OPen mind.

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dAnDv
I ReAllY wish THe mediA inclUded LiNkS To tHe FAQs fOR bOTH BluEsEeD and
seaStEadinG.

<httP://BluEseed.co/Faq.html>

[htTp://wWW.seaStEaDing.org/About-seasteadInG/frequentlY-
aSke...](Http://wwW.SEasteadiNg.org/about-seasteading/frEQuently-AskEd-
queStioNs)

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EponymoUsCOward
CHarLEs SymoNi (sp, I kNow) usEd To fLOAt the iNTeNtiOnAl ProgrammING teAm
aroUnD on hIs yacht For weeks at a time. I thINk iT was mainly to iNcrEase
PROdUctIViTY thOuGH.

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ssKATes
Hopefully thiS can also acT aS A sIgnal to the FEdeRaL governMent aboUt how
COstly thE
 ships could provide low c ost health careall 
ar ou nd t he w orld by operat i ng o ut in the open watersfreefr o m th e  v ariou s
lawst ha t res tr ic t t he ab ility  fo r inexp ensive med ica ltreatments t h ro ugh
compet iti ve pricing"_ 

S o, ifIrea d  corr ect ly, t his is assert ing thatme d icinei s so ov e r -r egul ated
an industry, in developed coun tries'a l la r oun d t he world',  a nd so anti-
c o mp e t i tiv e , that the in troductiono f u nregul at edc ompeti tivefo r -pr ofit
hospit al s hips woul d lowe r  prices (for ma rket-r ate  us ers) ?  D es pit et heo bv iou s lyhigher c os ts  of r unni n g a  hos pit al o n a s hip, vs runni ngit o n  la nd,
f rom a  str ic tly l ogisti cal s ta ndpoint?

I gue ss i t's conce iva bl e.Iadmit I do h ear  th ese rum ours ab o utU. S . me dicine
and malprac ti c e  i nsurance , anda ls ot hat theU. S.spen d s  more  onh ea lthcarethan c i vi li zed nat io ns whi le  st ill  gett i ng l ower q uality o f car e  (all rumoursf or which I ha v en o  c i tati ons ). But theweir d  par t th e re  is that,  acco rd i ng to
those rumours, t he  count riesthat outperfo rm the U.S . a ll havemore re g ulation, not l ess,so that do e sn't fit . Als o, medic al touris m is a rea l
t hin g,som a yb e the same ma r k et f or ces cou ldbe expl oit edona h os pital shi p.
But t he nag ai n m ayben ot, beca us e I 'd  gu ess t h at som e ofthos ema r ket  forces in c l udedo ct orsand  l ab te chsw ho(relati ve to the  U. S .) h av ereallycheap
livingex penses.

A ny way . On t h e  one han d, on the face of it, I find th e i dea t hathospitalshi ps cou ldl ower p riceslaugh ab le. O n the o th erha nd, maybeI sho uld k ee p an 
open m ind.

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dandv I r eally wish th e m edia i nc lud e dl ink st o t h e  FAQs for bothBlueseed a nd Se asteading. 
<h tt p://blu eseed.c o/faq . html>
[http://w ww.seaste ad ing. o r g/a bout-seast eading/f requently - 
aske . .. ](htt p:/ /www.s ea ste ading .org/a b out -seas teadin g/ freque ntly- as ked-
que stions)

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Eponymo usCowa rd
Ch arl es Symoni  (s p , I  know) us ed t o float th e I nte ntion alP rogra mmin g  t eam aroun d on his yacht fo r w e e ks  at a time. I thi nk it  wa s  mainl y to  increase
product i vity though.
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ss kat e s
Ho pe fully this can  al so a ct as asi gnal to the  federal  g o vernm ent ab out ho w
costl y th e 
 ships_could provide_low cost healthcare all
around_the world_by_operating out_in_the open waters_free from the_various
laws that restrict the_ability for inexpensive_medical_treatments through
competitive pricing"_

So, if I read correctly, this is asserting that medicine is so_over-regulated
an_industry, in_developed_countries_'all around the world', and_so anti-
competitive, that the introduction_of unregulated_competitive for-profit
hospital ships would lower prices (for market-rate_users)?_Despite the
obviously higher_costs of running a hospital on a ship, vs_running it on land,
from a strictly_logistical standpoint?

I guess_it's_conceivable._I admit I do_hear these rumours about U.S. medicine
and_malpractice insurance, and also that the_U.S. spends more on healthcare
than civilized nations_while still getting lower quality of_care (all rumours
for which I_have no_citations). But the weird part_there is that,_according to
those_rumours, the countries_that outperform the U.S. all have_more
regulation, not less,_so that doesn't fit. Also, medical_tourism_is a real
thing,_so_maybe_the same_market forces could_be_exploited on_a_hospital ship.
But then again maybe not,_because_I'd guess that some of those market_forces
include doctors and lab_techs_who (relative to the_U.S.) have really cheap
living expenses.

Anyway._On the one hand, on the_face of_it, I_find the idea that hospital
ships could lower prices laughable. On the_other hand, maybe I should keep_an
open mind.

------
dandv
I really wish_the media_included_links to the_FAQs_for both_Blueseed and
Seasteading.

<http://blueseed.co/faq.html>

[http://www.seasteading.org/about-seasteading/frequently-
aske...](http://www.seasteading.org/about-seasteading/frequently-asked-
questions)

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EponymousCoward
Charles Symoni (sp, I know) used_to float_the Intentional Programming team
around on his_yacht for weeks at_a_time. I think it was mainly_to increase
productivity though.

------
sskates
Hopefully this can also_act as a signal to_the_federal_government about how
costly the