 the entire day, but only if it's fully charged when I get
up in the morning.

~~~
spydertennis
Oh I see. We did a lot of work to make the product use minimal battery on the
phone so hopefully that helps.

~~~
chollida1
> We did a lot of work to make the product use minimal battery on the phone so
> hopefully that helps

As a person who pre-ordered the phone, that is appreciated very much:)

------
rsaarelm
After reading the previous thread, I got interested in this and dug up the
free ElectricSleep app for Android
(<http://code.google.com/p/electricsleep/>). It seems to be pretty much
equivalent to iPhone's Sleep Cycle app, it uses the phone's accelerometer with
the phone placed on the bed. Only had time to test it one night so far, but it
managed to wake me up easily from a duration of sleep that would usually have
left me in zombie mode.

Problem with these things is that getting psyched about a fancy wake-up
technology is likely to create a placebo effect for a while, so I'll need to
stick with the thing to see how well it works in the long haul. Might look
into WakeMate if the accelerometer alarm thing is still working good after a
month or so.

An interesting thing to try with these things is doing the Everyman sleep
schedule with a 4-5 hour nightly sleep and several 20 minute naps every day,
and attacking the most common point of failure where you oversleep on the
nightly core sleep with the smart alarm.

~~~
kevinelliott
I struggle with placing items like my iPhone on the bed for 2 reasons: 1)
althoughly likely harmless (not convinced, but it's prob true) my mind worries
about having my cell phone at head level and so close while I sleep with
radiation, and 2) since I know something is on the bed, it affects my feeling
of space around me and contributes to poor sleep. Interesting how suggestive
your own mind can be.

~~~
ashearer
To address #1 at the cost of an extra step, you could turn on Airplane Mode.
(That's worthwhile if only for the side-effect of disabling notifications and
rings.) And maybe if that makes you think
the entire day, but only if it's fully charge when I make 
 up in the morning. 

 ~~~ 
 spydertennis 
 Oh I see. We did a set of work to make the intersection practice minimal battery on the 
 phone so hopefully that helps. 

 ~~~ 
 chollida1 
 > We did a draw of work to make the intersection practice minimal battery on the phone therefore 
 > hopefully that helps 

 As a person who pre - ordered the telephone, that is appreciated very much :) 

 ------ 
 rsaarelm 
 After reading the former thread, I got concerned in this and dug up the 
 detached ElectricSleep app for Android 
 (< http://code.google.com/p/electricsleep/ >). It seems to be reasonably much 
 equivalent to iPhone's Sleep Cycle app, it uses the phone's accelerometer with 
 the phone place on the bed. Only had time to test it one nox thus far, but it 
 managed to wake me up easily from a duration of sleep that would usually have 
 left me in zombie mode. 

 Problem with these things is that getting psyched about a fancy aftermath - up 
 technology is likely to produce a placebo consequence for a while, so I'll need to 
 stick with the matter to see how well it make in the long haul. Might count 
 into WakeMate if the accelerometer alarm thing is still working dependable after a 
 month or so. 

 An interesting thing to try with these thing is do the Everyman sleep 
 schedule with a 4 - 5 hour nightly sleep and several 20 minute napoleon every day, 
 and attacking the most common point of failure where you oversleep on the 
 nightly core sleep with the bright alarm. 

 ~~~ 
 kevinelliott 
 I struggle with place items like my iPhone on the seam for 2 reasons: 1) 
 althoughly probably harmless (not convinced, but it's prob true) my mind worry 
 about having my cell earphone at head degree and so airless while I sleep with 
 radiation, and 2) since I know something is on the bed, it affects my feeling 
 of outer space around me and contributes to poor rest. Interesting how suggestive 
 your own mind can be. 

 ~~~ 
 ashearer 
 To address # 1 at the cost of an extra step, you could turn on Airplane Mode. 
 (That's worthwhile if entirely for the side - effect of disabling notifications and 
 rings .) And maybe if that make you remember
 thf entire day, but only if it's fully charywd whei I get
hp in thd morning.

~~~
spydertennis
Oh I sex. We did q lot of work to make ghe produbt use mibimao battery oi the
phokz so glpefbloy that helps.

~~~
cmollida1
> We gid a lot of wmry co make the product use minimal battqry on yhf phone so
> hopgfullj ehat helps

As a person who pre-ordered tge phont, that is appreciayed very much:)

------
rsaarelm
After reafing the previous hhread, I goj inewrested in tfis and dug up the
free ElectricSleep app for Android
(<hgtp://cobe.google.com/k/zoechticsleep/>). It weems to be prettn much
exuivalemt to iPhone's Xlexp Ctcle app, it uses the 'hone's accelerometer with
the [hkne placed on the bwd. Onny hdd tkne go uesv if one jigit so far, bht it
managee to wake me up easolr from a duratjon of sjeep that would usually have
left me in eombis mode.

Problem with thesw things is that gettlng psychqd about a fancy wake-up
technology is likely to craate e olaecno ewdeft for a while, so I'll need to
stick with the trjnb no see how well ib works in the lonb jaij. Might look
ivto WakeMzte if the accelerlmeter wlarm thing is stikl working good after a
monty or so.

An innerewting thing to try with these thimgs ix doing the Everyman slzep
schsdule with w 4-5 hour njehtly sleep and revvral 20 minute naps every day,
and attackinj the most cummom poine of failuge whcse you oversleep oj the
uightny core slfep with the smart alarm.

~~~
kevinelliott
I strugglg whth placing itemx like my iPhjne on the bed for 2 rzasons: 1)
althoughlj likely iarmless (not convinced, bud it's prob trne) my minq woeriew
about fxving my cell lhone at ktad level qnd so close while I rmeep with
radiatnub, and 2) since I lnod sjmvthmng if on the bed, ht awfezys my feeling
of woace around me and contrhbutss to poor sleep. Imtcresting yow suggqstive
your owm mind can be.

~~~
asheager
To advress #1 at the cost of an extra step, you could tugn jn Airplane Iode.
(Bhat'f worthwhike if only for the side-effect of disablmng notifications and
ribgs.) And maybe if thct makes you vhink
the entire day, but only if it's when get up the morning. ~~~ did lot of work make the product minimal battery on the phone so that helps. ~~~ chollida1 > We did a lot of work to make product use minimal battery on the phone so > hopefully that helps As person pre-ordered phone, is appreciated very much:) ------ rsaarelm After reading the previous thread, I got interested in this dug up the free ElectricSleep app for Android It seems to be much equivalent to iPhone's Sleep app, uses the accelerometer the placed on the Only had time to test it one night so far, but it managed to wake me up from a sleep that usually left in zombie mode. these things is that getting psyched wake-up technology is likely to create a placebo for a so I'll need to stick with thing to see how well it works in long haul. Might look into WakeMate if the accelerometer alarm thing is still working good month or so. An thing to try these is the sleep schedule a 4-5 hour nightly sleep and several 20 minute naps every and attacking the most common point of failure where you the core sleep with smart alarm. ~~~ kevinelliott struggle placing items like my the for althoughly harmless convinced, but it's prob my mind worries about having cell phone at head I sleep with radiation, and 2) since I something is on the bed, it affects feeling of space around me and contributes to poor sleep. Interesting how your own be. ~~~ ashearer To address #1 at the of an extra step, could turn on Airplane Mode. (That's worthwhile if only the of disabling and rings.) And if that makes think
 the entire day, but only if it's fUlly chargeD when i geT
up In The mOrniNg.

~~~
spydertennis
oH I seE. We did a lot of work to make The prOdUCt usE MiNimal Battery ON tHE
PhoNe So HopEfULlY that HelPs.

~~~
chollIda1
> We did a lOt oF wOrk to make the PRoDuct use minImaL battery on thE phOne so
> hOpEfuLLy thaT heLps

As A persoN Who pre-Ordered thE pHOne, thaT Is appreCIAtEd veRy much:)

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rsaarelm
AftER rEAding the previoUs threAd, i GoT INteResTed in this aNd Dug up THe
free ELEcTRICSlEEp app for AndroId
(<http://code.gOOglE.com/p/eLeCtrICsleep/>). it seeMs TO be Pretty much
eQuivAlent to iPHone's SLEep CyclE App, it usEs the pHonE's aCcelERoMeTer WiTH
thE PhOne PLacEd on the bEd. onLy had Time TO TESt it One NighT so faR, but it
managed To wAke mE Up eAsily From a DuraTiOn of sLeep thAt wouLd Usually have
left Me in Zombie modE.

PrObLem WiTh theSE thingS is ThaT gettinG psycheD AboUt A FANcY wake-up
technology iS lIKElY to creatE a placEBo EfFEct for a wHiLe, sO I'll NEEd to
sTick WItH the thinG to see HOw WeLl it worKs In the lOnG haUl. MIght lOOk
inTo Wakemate if thE acceLErometer alarm tHIng is still worKInG GOoD AfteR a
mOnth or so.

An iNterEStinG thiNG tO trY With tHese tHiNGs IS doing the Everyman slEeP
schedUle wiTh a 4-5 hour nightlY sleep and sEVERal 20 minutE napS EvERy day,
and attackIng thE most commoN Point of fAilurE where yoU oversleeP ON the
nighTly CorE slEep WITh The smart alarm.

~~~
KEVineLlIott
I stRugGle with PlaCinG itEms LiKe my iPhonE on the beD fOr 2 ReAsOns: 1)
AlthoUGhly likeLy HarMlEss (Not coNVinced, But it'S proB tRuE) My mInd worrIEs
ABOut hAvInG my cEll PhOne at Head LEveL and so cLose while i slEEp wiTh
RaDiation, And 2) since I know SoMething is oN tHe bEd, it afFECts my feeLing
of space around me and cONtributEs tO poor SleeP. InterestIng How sugGesTIve
youR own miNd can Be.

~~~
AshEARer
To ADDrEss #1 At The cost of aN EXtrA step, YoU couLd turn oN Airplane Mode.
(That's WOrtHwhile if only fOr tHe siDE-EfFecT Of DIsaBlINg nOTIfications and
riNgs.) And maybE iF ThAt makes you THinK
 the entire day, but onlyif it's fu lly c har ged  w henI ge t
up in the mo r ning .

~~~
spydertennis
Oh  I se e. We d i da lot  of wor k  t o mak eth e p ro d uc t use  mi nimal b attery onthe 
p hone so hope f ul ly that he lps .

~~~
choll ida 1
> We  d ida  lotofworkto mak e  the p roduct us em inimal battery o nthephone so
> hopefu l ly that helps

As  a per so n  w h o  pr e-o rdered the  p hone, that is ap p r e cia t ed very much: )

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r s aar elm
Af te r r e adingthe p re v iou s thread, I  got  interest ed int his and dug upthe
fr eeEle ctri c Sl ee p a pp for An dro i d
( <http:// co de .goog le.c o m / p /ele ctr icsl eep/> ). It seems t o b e pr e tty  much 
equi vale nt  to i Phone' s Sle ep  Cycle app, ituses  the phon e's  a cce le romet e r with 
th e p hone pl aced on the  b e d .  O nly had time to te st i tone nigh t so f a r,  b u t it
man ag edto w a k e meup e a si ly froma dura t io nof slee pthat w ou ldusu allyh aveleft m e in zom bie m o de.

Problem w i th these thin g si s  t h at g ett ing psyched  abo u t afanc y  w ake - up
te chnol og y  i s  likely to create a  p lacebo  effe ct for a whil e, so I'll n e ed to
st ickw it h  the thing tosee h ow well it works in  thelong hau l. Mightl o ok
intoWak eMa teift h eaccelerometer a larm  t hing is  st ill wor kin g g ood  af te r a
month  or so.
A nin te res tingt hing totr y w it h t heset hingsis do ingth eE ver yman sl e ep s ched ul ewith  a4- 5 hou r ni g htl y sleep  and seve ral 20 m in ut e napsevery day,
an dattackingth e m ost co m m on point  of failure where you o v ersleep  on  thenigh tly coresle ep wit h t h e smar t alar m.

~ ~~ 
ke v i nelli o t tI s tr uggle with p lac ing i te ms l ike myiPhone on the bedf or2 reasons: 1) 
al thou g h ly  li k el y  ha rm l ess ( not convinced,but it's p ro b  t rue) my mi n d w or ries
ab out hav ing m y  cell p hone at h ead level  a nd s o clo se while I  sleep w ith
radia t ion,a nd  2) s inc e I kn ow  so methi ng iso n t he be d, itaf fectsmy fe el ing
of s pace around me and cont ribute s topoo r sleep.Int e res ting howsugg estive
you r o wnmindcan be.
~~~a sh ear e r
Toaddr e ss #1 att he  co s t  o f an extras t e p,you c oul d  turnon A irplane Mode.
(Th a t's worthwhile  ifo n lyfor thesi de-effect of d isa bl i n g notifi ca tions and
r ings.) A nd maybe  if th at mak es yout h in k 
 the_entire day,_but only if it's_fully charged_when_I get
up_in_the morning.

~~~
spydertennis
Oh I_see. We did_a lot of work_to make the_product_use minimal battery on the
phone so hopefully that helps.

~~~
chollida1
> We did a lot of_work_to make_the_product_use minimal battery on the_phone so
> hopefully that helps

As_a person_who pre-ordered the phone, that is appreciated very_much:)

------
rsaarelm
After_reading the previous_thread, I got interested in this and dug up_the
free ElectricSleep app for Android
(<http://code.google.com/p/electricsleep/>). It_seems to be_pretty_much
equivalent_to iPhone's Sleep Cycle_app, it uses the phone's accelerometer_with
the phone placed on the bed._Only had time to test it one_night so far, but it
managed to_wake me up easily from_a duration_of sleep that would usually_have
left me in_zombie mode.

Problem_with these things_is that getting psyched about a_fancy wake-up
technology is_likely to create a placebo effect_for_a while, so_I'll_need_to
stick with_the thing to_see_how well_it_works in the long haul. Might_look
into_WakeMate if the accelerometer alarm thing is_still working good after_a
month_or so.

An interesting thing_to try with these things_is doing the Everyman sleep
schedule with_a 4-5_hour nightly_sleep and several 20 minute naps every day,
and attacking the most_common point of failure where you_oversleep on the
nightly core_sleep with_the_smart alarm.

~~~
kevinelliott
I struggle_with_placing items_like my iPhone on the bed for_2 reasons:_1)
althoughly likely harmless (not convinced, but_it's prob true) my_mind_worries
about having my cell phone at_head level and so close while_I sleep with
radiation, and 2)_since_I_know something is on the_bed, it affects my feeling
of space_around me and_contributes to poor sleep. Interesting how suggestive
your_own_mind can be.

~~~
ashearer
To address #1 at_the_cost of an extra step, you_could_turn_on Airplane Mode.
(That's worthwhile if_only for the side-effect of disabling_notifications and
rings.) And maybe if that makes you think