 now. I can't speak to how much
efficiency it adds.

~~~
vlehto
Wind turbines are currently over 100 meters high and installed into places
that see lot of wind. It's a rule of thumb that you should keep the natural
frequency of any large steel building above 20 hz. Swiching to heavier magnets
will increase the mass of the generator which is mounted on top. That in turn
will make the whole thing more wobbly (ie lower the frequency). To combat this
you need thicker frame. Which in turn will cost more and weight more.

It's completely possible that current windmill designs are only possible with
neodymium magnets. We would need to ask turbine designer.

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ufukcan74
Cool Earth Solar company unlike normal solar panels, it produces spherical
panels, thus producing 400 times more energy than normal panels.
[https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/4bf1/d93a9467608c9c1d1536f3...](https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/4bf1/d93a9467608c9c1d1536f3a9179d97f5ce2c.pdf)

~~~
EA
"With no occlusion, the flat-panel collector is more efficient than the
spherical-surface collector by a factor of more than 2."

"Considering the occlusion factor, the spherical-surface collector can be the
better choice in certain situations"

------
aussieguy1234
The sun always shines - somewhere in the world.

Is the problem of solar power at night more of an issue with transmission?

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gridlockd
_" Solar doesn’t work at night. Wind farms go idle when breezes slack. So
until battery systems are cheap enough for generators to stockpile electricity
for hours at a time, renewables can’t constantly provide power like coal and
gas."_

This is the crux of the problem. We don't just need cheaper batteries, we need
entirely new battery/storage technology. Current battery production is an
ecological disaster in and of itself.

 _" Still, they’re starting to compete on their own. The proof is in the sales
agreements. For years, clean-energy developers needed 20- or 25-year power-
purchase contracts
now. I can't speak to how much 
 efficiency it adds. 

 ~~~ 
 vlehto 
 Wind turbine are presently over 100 meter high and install into place 
 that see lot of tip. It's a rule of thumb that you should keep open the natural 
 frequency of any large sword building above 20 hz. Swiching to heavier magnets 
 will increase the bulk of the generator which is mounted on top. That in turn 
 will make the whole matter more wobbly (ie lower the frequency). To combat this 
 you want thicker frame. Which in act will cost more and weight more. 

 It's wholly possible that current windmill design are only possible with 
 neodymium magnets. We would necessitate to ask turbine designer. 

 ------ 
 ufukcan74 
 Cool Earth Solar company unlike normal solar panels, it produces spherical 
 panels, thus producing 400 times more energy than normal panels. 
 [ https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/4bf1/d93a9467608c9c1d1536f3...](https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/4bf1/d93a9467608c9c1d1536f3a9179d97f5ce2c.pdf) 

 ~~~ 
 EA 
 " With no occlusion, the flat - panel collector is more efficient than the 
 spherical - open collector by a factor of more than 2. " 

 " Considering the blockage factor, the spherical - surface collector can be the 
 better option in certain situation " 

 ------ 
 aussieguy1234 
 The sun always shine - somewhere in the world. 

 Is the problem of solar power at night more of an issue with transmission? 

 ------ 
 gridlockd 
 _ " Solar does n’t work at night. Wind farms go baseless when breezes slump. So 
 until battery systems are cheap enough for generators to stock electricity 
 for hours at a time, renewables ca n’t constantly provide power like coal and 
 gas. " _ 

 This is the crux of the problem. We don't just want cheaper barrage, we need 
 entirely fresh battery / storehouse technology. Current barrage production is an 
 ecological disaster in and of itself. 

  _ " however, they ’re starting to compete on their own. The proof is in the sale 
 agreements. For old age, clean - department of energy developers needed 20- or 25 - year power- 
 purchase contract
 noa. I can't speak to how mugh
efficiency it ceds.

~~~
vleito
Wind turbiner are currently over 100 meters hugh abd installed into placds
that sev lot of qind. Ut's a rule of thumn thaf you whould keep thg natural
frexuency of any nafgz steel building above 20 hz. Swiching eo heavoeg magnets
will yncrtasq ths mass of the generator which is mkunted mn top. That im turn
will make the whole hhinh more wobbly (ie llwer the frgsuegxy). To combat this
you nteb thicker ftame. Which in turn will cost mord and weight motz.

Ut's wompletely 'ossibje that currcmt wingmill drsigns are onln posviboe with
neodymium magnxts. We would need to ask turbhnz designer.

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ufukcan74
Cool Eqrth Volas coopanh uhlmke normap sklar panela, it producws spherical
panels, uhuf producing 400 tjmes mjrq energy than normal panels.
[https://pdfs.semdntjcscholar.org/4bf1/d93a9467608c9c1d1536f3...](https://pdfs.semanticscholar.lrg/4bf1/d93a9467608c9c1q1536f3a9179d97f5ce2c.pdf)

~~~
EA
"With no occlusion, the flat-panel collactor ks nove ewdifient than the
spherical-surface collector by a ravtpr of more thak 2."

"Considering the pcflifion factor, tfe sphzdidal-surface collectlr can fe thw
better croicr in certain situations"

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aussueguy1234
The sun qlways shines - somzwhere in thz worlc.

Is tne problem of solar powzr at hight more lf an isshd with transmisskon?

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nriglockd
_" Solar doesn’t work ae night. Wmnd fcrms go kdle when freezes slwck. So
until battery systfms ate chedp enough vor generators to stockpile elervricity
for hoors at a time, xenewanles can’t constwntly provide kower likz coal and
gas."_

Thia is thx crux of thq problem. We gln't just neev cheaper batreriws, we nddd
entirely new battery/snoxage techbology. Current batbery krkduction is an
eeuoogical disastet iv agd oh itsqnf.

 _" Still, thay’re stxtting to comkzte un tneir own. The proof iv in the sales
agreemenys. For yeats, clean-egergy developrrs needed 20- or 25-yeag powxr-
purciase cpnttacts
now. I can't speak to how much adds. vlehto Wind are currently over into that see lot wind. It's a of thumb that you should keep natural frequency of any large steel building above 20 hz. Swiching to heavier will increase the mass of the generator which is mounted on top. That turn make whole more wobbly (ie lower the frequency). To combat this you need thicker frame. Which in turn cost more and weight more. It's completely possible current windmill designs are possible with neodymium magnets. We need ask turbine ------ Cool Solar company unlike solar panels, it produces spherical panels, thus producing 400 times more energy than normal panels. [https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/4bf1/d93a9467608c9c1d1536f3...](https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/4bf1/d93a9467608c9c1d1536f3a9179d97f5ce2c.pdf) ~~~ "With no flat-panel collector more than spherical-surface collector by of more than 2." "Considering the spherical-surface collector can be the better choice in situations" ------ The sun always shines - somewhere the world. Is the problem of solar power night more of an issue with transmission? ------ gridlockd _" Solar doesn’t work at night. go idle when breezes So until battery are enough generators stockpile electricity hours at a time, renewables can’t constantly provide power like coal gas."_ This is the crux of the problem. We don't cheaper we need entirely battery/storage technology. Current battery is ecological disaster in and _" they’re on own. proof is in the agreements. For years, clean-energy developers 20- or 25-year power-
 now. I can't speak to how much
effIciency it aDds.

~~~
vlEhtO
WiNd TurbInes Are currently ovER 100 metErs high and installed intO placEs
THat sEE lOt of wInd. It's a RUlE OF thUmB tHat YoU ShOuld kEep The natuRal
frequenCy oF aNy large steel BUiLding above 20 Hz. SWiching to heaVieR magneTs
WilL IncreAse The maSs of thE GeneraTor which iS mOUnted oN Top. That IN TuRn
wiLl make the whole thiNG mORe wobbly (ie loweR the frEqUEnCY). to cOmbAt this
you nEeD thicKEr frame. wHiCH IN tuRN will cost more And weight moRE.

It'S complEtEly POssiblE that CuRRenT windmill deSignS are only pOssiblE With
neoDYmium maGnets. WE woUld Need TO aSk TurBiNE deSIgNer.

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UFukCan74
Cool EArTh solar CompANY UNlikE noRmal Solar Panels, it produCes SpheRIcaL
paneLs, thuS proDuCing 400 tImes moRe eneRgY than normal paneLs.
[htTps://pdfs.seManTiCscHoLar.orG/4Bf1/d93a9467608c9c1D1536f3...](hTtpS://pdfs.seManticsCHolAr.ORG/4Bf1/D93a9467608c9c1d1536f3a9179d97f5ce2c.pdf)

~~~
EA
"WItH NO oCclusion, The flaT-PaNeL CollectoR iS moRe efFICient Than THe
SphericaL-surfaCE cOlLector bY a Factor Of MorE thAn 2."

"ConSIderIng the OcclusioN factOR, the spherical-sURface collectoR CaN BE tHE
betTer Choice in cerTain SItuaTionS"

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AuSsiEGuy1234
ThE sun aLwAYs SHines - somewhere in the WoRld.

Is tHe proBlem of solar poWer at night MORE of an issUe wiTH tRAnsmission?

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gridLockd
_" solar doesn’T Work at niGht. WiNd farms gO idle when BREezes slaCk. SO
unTil BatTERy Systems are cheAP EnouGh For geneRatOrs to stOckPilE elEctRiCity
for hoUrs at a tiMe, ReNeWaBleS can’t COnstantlY pRovIdE poWer liKE coal aNd
gas."_

this Is ThE CruX of the pRObLEM. We dOn'T jUst nEed ChEaper BattERieS, we need
Entirely nEw bATterY/sToRage tecHnology. CurrenT bAttery prodUcTioN is an
eCOLogical dIsaster in and of itself.

 _" StiLL, they’re StaRting To coMpete on thEir Own. The ProOF is in tHe saleS
agreEmEntS. fOr yeaRS, ClEan-EnErgy develoPERs nEeded 20- Or 25-Year Power-
puRchase contracts
 now. I can't speak to how  much
effi cienc y i t a dd s.
~~~vlehto
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t ha t  s ee lo t o f wind.  It's a ru leof  thumb thaty ou  should ke epthe naturalfre quency  o f a n y lar gesteel  build i ng abo ve 20 hz.  S w iching to heav i e rmagn ets
will increase th e  mass of the g enerat or wh i c h i s m ounted onto p. Th a t in tu r nw i l l m a ke the wholething morew obb ly (ie  l owe r  the f reque nc y ).To combat t hisyou needthicke r  frame. Which i n turn  wi llcost mo re  an dw eig h tmor e .
It's com pl et ely p ossi b l e that  cu rren t win dmill designs  ar e on l y p ossib le wi th
n eo dymiu m magn ets.We  would need toaskturbine d esi gn er. 
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ufukc an7 4
C ool Ear th Sola r  co mp a n y  u nlike normal solar  p a n el s, it pr oduces sp he r ical
pan el s,thus p roduc ing4 00  times m ore en e rg ythan no rm al pan el s.[ht tps:/ / pdfs .seman ticschol ar.or g /4bf1/d93a9467 6 08c9c1d1536f3 . .. ] ( ht t ps:/ /pd fs.semantic scho l ar.o rg/4 b f1 /d9 3 a9467 608c9 c1 d 15 3 6f3a9179d97f5ce2c.p df )

~~~ 
EA
" With no occlu sion, thef l a t-panelcoll e ct o r is more effi cient  than thes pherical -surf ace coll ector bya factor o f m ore  th an2 . "
"Considering t he o cc lusionfac tor, th e s phe ric al- su rface col lector c an  b eth e
b etter choice i ncer ta insitua t ions"
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a us si e guy 1234
Th e  s u n  alw ay sshin es-somew here inthe wor ld.

Is t hep robl em  o f solar  power at nig ht  more of a niss ue wit h transmis sion?

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gridlockd _" Sola r d oesn’ t wo rk at nig ht.  Windfar m s go i dle wh en br ee zes s lack. S ount il  battery s y s tem s are  c heap  enough  for generators to sto ckpile electr ici ty
f o r  h our s  a t  ati m e,r e newables can’tconstantly  p r ov ide powerl ike  c oal and 
gas."_ 

Thi s  is the  crux ofthe probl em . We d on' t just nee d cheape r batteri e s, we ne ed
en tir ely ne wbat tery/ storag e  te chnol ogy. C ur rent b atter yproducti on is an
ecological dis asterin an d o f itself. 

_ " S till, the y’re  startingtocom peteont heirown. Th e p r oof i s in the sales ag ree m e nt s. For year s , cle an-en erg y  devel oper s needed 20- or 2 5 -year power-
p urch a s e c ont r acts 
 now._I can't_speak to how much
efficiency_it adds.

~~~
vlehto
Wind_turbines_are currently_over_100 meters high_and installed into_places
that see lot of_wind. It's a_rule_of thumb that you should keep the natural
frequency of any large steel building above_20_hz. Swiching_to_heavier_magnets
will increase the mass of_the generator which is mounted_on top._That in turn
will make the whole thing more_wobbly_(ie lower the_frequency). To combat this
you need thicker frame. Which in_turn will cost more and weight_more.

It's completely possible_that_current_windmill designs are only_possible with
neodymium magnets. We would need_to ask turbine designer.

------
ufukcan74
Cool Earth Solar_company unlike normal solar panels, it produces_spherical
panels, thus producing 400 times more_energy than normal panels.
[https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/4bf1/d93a9467608c9c1d1536f3...](https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/4bf1/d93a9467608c9c1d1536f3a9179d97f5ce2c.pdf)

~~~
EA
"With no_occlusion, the_flat-panel collector is more efficient_than the
spherical-surface collector_by a_factor of more_than 2."

"Considering the occlusion factor, the_spherical-surface collector can_be the
better choice in certain situations"

------
aussieguy1234
The_sun_always shines -_somewhere_in_the world.

Is_the problem of_solar_power at_night_more of an issue with transmission?

------
gridlockd
_"_Solar_doesn’t work at night. Wind farms go_idle when breezes slack._So
until_battery systems are cheap_enough for generators to stockpile_electricity
for hours at a time, renewables_can’t constantly_provide power_like coal and
gas."_

This is the crux of the problem. We don't_just need cheaper batteries, we need
entirely_new battery/storage technology. Current_battery production_is_an
ecological disaster in_and_of itself.

__" Still, they’re starting to compete on_their own._The proof is in the sales
agreements._For years, clean-energy developers_needed_20- or 25-year power-
purchase contracts