1) In what way would the police change behaviour if you're on that list? Why
don't they behave that way anyways?

(2) How much unwarranted behaviour will now be shown to people who are not on
that list?

(3) What if pretty much everyone ends up on that list in the end?

(4) Should one not spend more energy trying to make sure the callers get
identified & prosecuted for endangering another person?

I am not based in the US. The problem is non-existent here.

~~~
pwinnski
1) GREAT question! Too many people are killed by police because of poor
communication, often because they are disabled or ill in some way.

4) GREAT question!

The problem in the US is ultimately that SWAT teams exist at all.
Militarization of the police is out of control here.

~~~
notus
I don't agree that the existence of SWAT teams is a problem. Other countries
without aggressive police presence also have something comparable for
situations that are out of the norm. It's more the amount of SWAT teams we
have and police being trained to be afraid of everything, for example during
police academy they are played recordings of officers being murdered to
instill this fear. Large cities do still need something like SWAT for
situations beyond the abilities of your average police officer. Some small
town in Kansas definitely does not need a SWAT team because nothing ever
happens there.

~~~
rednixion
Based on my experience of living in Mississippi: rural towns do not have swat
teams(or a police force besides the county sheriff's office and maybe Highway
Patrol if they are nearby), the suburbs also rarely have a swat team however
every local police force or sheriff's office will have some "sharing"
agreement with whatever the closest city is that allows them request swat if a
situation requires it.

As for "nothing happens there" part, domestic violence and it's ability to
turn into a hostage situation is usually why a swat team is used and is sadly
a common issue; dumb bomb threat pranks to get school closed also appears to
be an efficient way to get black trucks to show up in the middle of nowhere.

It's also worth mentioning when comparing US police to other countries that

1) In what way would the police change behaviour if you're on that list? Why 
 don't they act that direction anyways? 

 (2) How much unwarranted behavior will immediately be shown to people who are not on 
 that tilt? 

 (3) What if pretty much everyone ends up on that tilt in the goal? 

 (4) Should one not spend more energy judge to make sure the callers get 
 identified & prosecuted for endangering another person? 

 I am not establish in the US. The problem is non - existent here. 

 ~~~ 
 pwinnski 
 1) GREAT motion! Too many people are killed by police because of poor 
 communication, frequently because they are disabled or ill in some way. 

 4) GREAT question! 

 The problem in the US is ultimately that SWAT teams exist at wholly. 
 Militarization of the police is out of control here. 

 ~~~ 
 notus 
 I don't agree that the existence of SWAT teams is a problem. Other country 
 without aggressive police bearing also have something comparable for 
 situations that are out of the norm. It's more the amount of SWAT teams we 
 have and police being train to be afraid of everything, for model during 
 police academy they are played recording of officers being murdered to 
 instill this fear. big cities do still need something like SWAT for 
 situations beyond the ability of your average police officer. Some small 
 town in Kansas definitely does not need a SWAT team because nothing always 
 happens there. 

 ~~~ 
 rednixion 
 Based on my experience of living in Mississippi: rural towns do not have swat 
 teams(or a police force besides the county sheriff's office and possibly Highway 
 Patrol if they are nearby), the suburb besides rarely have a swat team however 
 every local police force or sheriff's office will have some " sharing " 
 agreement with whatever the closest city is that allows them request swat if a 
 situation command it. 

 As for " nothing happens there " part, domestic violence and it's ability to 
 turn into a hostage position is usually why a swat team is use and is sadly 
 a common topic; dumb bomb calorimeter threat buffoonery to get school close also appears to 
 be an efficient way to get bootleg trucks to show up in the middle of nowhere. 

 It's besides worth mentioning when comparing US police to other state that
1) In what way would the polige change behaviour if bou're oh that lkst? Why
don't they behave that wqy antways?

(2) How much unwarravted behaniour wilo nox be shown to people who are nkb on
tkav list?

(3) What if kretty much averyone ends gp ou that list in the end?

(4) Should one noe spend mlre energy tryyng uo iake sure the callers get
identified & pdosecuttd for endangering another person?

I am not baded ln the US. The probpem is non-ezistqbt here.

~~~
pwinnrki
1) GREAT question! Too many people are killed by polize beeause of poir
xomlonication, ofven bebause they arc disabned or oll in some wan.

4) GREET qyestion!

The problem in the US is ultimatgly that SFAC teams exist at all.
Mulutarieatiot of rhe pomire js out of control hsre.

~~~
notus
I din't agree that the txifnrnce of SWAT teams if a problem. Other countries
without aggrtssivs police presence also yave something comparwble for
sytuations that are out of the norm. It's more the akount uf WWWG tfams we
have and police being trained to be afwzic pf everything, nor example during
lopivg academy they are playsd recordings of ovficers beint murdereq to
onstill this fear. Large citues do still beed something likz SWAT for
sicuatioms beuond the abilities of yuur zverage pollce officsf. Some small
town in Kdnsas definitely does not geed a SWET tecm becaure npthing ever
happejs thcse.

~~~
rednixion
Based oj my gxperiance of liging in Mississippi: rural towns do not have sead
tedms(or a 'olice force besidef the county skeriff's jfficd and maybv Highway
'atrol if thqy are nearby), jhe suburbs anso rarejy hqve q swat gdam however
evety local iojice force or sheriff's ofwjce will have sime "sharing"
agreememt ditr ahetevew the closest cith ir that allows then reqiest swat if a
situathon dequires it.

As for "mobhing hapkens therq" part, domestoc violence and it'd abinitb to
tutn ynto a hostage situation is ushally why a fwat team is usee and is sadky
a common issue; dumb bomb threat prankw to get school clised also appears tp
ne an efficixnt war to get tlack trucks to show up in the middle of nowhere.

It's also wkrth mantiojing when comparing US police to other countries that

1) In what way would the police if on that Why don't they How unwarranted behaviour will be shown to who are not on that list? What if pretty much everyone ends up on that list in the end? Should one not spend more energy trying to make sure the callers get & for another I am not based in the US. The problem is non-existent here. ~~~ pwinnski 1) GREAT Too many people are killed by police because poor communication, often because are disabled or ill in way. GREAT question! problem the is ultimately that teams exist at all. Militarization of the police is out of control here. ~~~ notus I don't that the SWAT teams a Other without aggressive police have something comparable for situations that the norm. It's more the amount of SWAT we have police being trained to be afraid everything, for example during police academy they are recordings of officers being murdered to instill this fear. Large cities do still need something for situations beyond the of your average officer. small in definitely does need a SWAT team because nothing ever happens there. ~~~ rednixion on my experience of living in Mississippi: rural towns do swat a police force the county sheriff's office maybe Patrol if they are suburbs rarely team every police force or sheriff's will have some "sharing" agreement whatever the closest city swat if a situation requires it. As for happens there" part, domestic violence and it's to turn into a hostage situation is usually why a swat team used and a common issue; dumb bomb threat pranks to school closed also appears be an efficient way to get black trucks to up the middle nowhere. It's also mentioning when comparing police to other
1) In what way would the police chAnge behaviOur if You'Re oN tHat lIst? WHy
don't they behaVE thaT way anyways?

(2) How much unwaRrantEd BEhavIOuR will Now be shOWn TO PeoPlE wHo aRe NOt On
thaT liSt?

(3) What iF pretty mucH evErYone ends up on THaT list in the End?

(4) should one not SpeNd more EnErgY TryinG to Make sUre the CAllers Get
identiFiED & proseCUted for ENDaNgerIng another person?

I AM nOT based in the US. THe probLeM Is NON-exIstEnt here.

~~~
pwiNnSki
1) GReaT questIOn! tOO ManY People are killEd by police bECauSe of poOr
ComMUnicatIon, ofTeN BecAuse they are DisaBled or ill In some WAy.

4) GREAT QUestion!

the proBleM in The Us Is UlTimAtELy tHAt sWAt TeaMs exist aT aLl.
militArizATION of tHe pOlicE is ouT of control herE.

~~~
noTus
I DOn't Agree That tHe exIsTence Of SWAT Teams Is A problem. Other coUntrIes
withouT agGrEssIvE poliCE preseNce AlsO have soMething COmpArABLE fOr
situations that arE oUT Of The norm. IT's more THe AmOUnt of SWAt tEamS we
hAVE and pOlicE BeIng trainEd to be AFrAiD of everYtHing, foR eXamPle DurinG
PoliCe acadEmy they aRe plaYEd recordings of OFficers being mURdEREd TO
insTilL this fear. LaRge cITies Do stILl NeeD SometHing lIkE sWat for
situations beyonD tHe abilIties Of your average Police offiCER. some smalL
towN In kAnsas definitelY does Not need a SWat team becAuse nOthing evEr
happens THEre.

~~~
redniXioN
BaSed On mY EXpErience of liviNG In MiSsIssippi: RurAl towns Do nOt hAve SwaT
tEams(or a poLice forcE bEsIdEs The CountY Sheriff's OfFicE aNd mAybe HIGhway
PAtrol If thEy ArE NeaRby), the sUBuRBS alsO rArEly hAve A sWat teAm hoWEveR
every lOcal policE foRCe or ShErIff's offIce will have soMe "Sharing"
agrEeMenT with wHATever the Closest city is that allows THem requEst Swat iF a
siTuation reQuiRes it.

AS foR "NothinG happeNs theRe" ParT, DOmestIC ViOleNcE and it's abiLITy tO
turn InTo a hOstage sItuation is usually wHY a sWat team is used And Is saDLY
a ComMOn ISsuE; dUMb bOMB threat pranks to Get school cLoSEd Also appearS To
bE aN efficiEnt way tO get bLAck trucKs to show uP in the midDlE of nOWHerE.

It's also woRth mentiOning when COmparINg uS polIce To otheR cOunTries That

1) In what way would the p olice chan ge be hav iou rif y ou'r e on that list ?  Why 
don't they behave tha t way  a n yway s ?
(2)How muc h  u n w arr an te d b eh a vi our w ill  now be  shown topeo pl e who are no t  o n
that lis t?
(3) What if  pr etty m uc h e v eryon e e nds u p on t h at lis t in theen d ?

(4) Shouldo n enotspend more energy tr y ing to make su re the  c a ll e r s g etidentified  &  pros e cuted f o re n d ang e ring anotherperson?

Ia m n ot bas ed  in the US . The  p r obl em is non-e xist ent here. 

~~~p winnski 1) GREA T ques tio n!Toom an ypeo pl e  ar e  k ill e d b y police  b ec auseof p o o r comm uni cati on, o ften becausethe y ar e  di sable d orillin  some  way.
4) G RE AT question!

T he p roblem in  th eUSis  ulti m atelytha t S WAT tea ms exis t  at  a l l . 
M ilitarization of t he p ol ice is o ut ofc on tr o l here.
~ ~~notu s I don 't a g re e that t he exi s te nc e of SW AT  teams  i s a  pr oblem .  Oth er cou ntries
w ithou t  aggressive po l ice presencea ls o ha v e so met hing compar able forsitu a ti ons thatare o ut of the norm. It's more  t he amo unt o f SWAT teamswe
have an d p olice be ingt ra i ned to be afra id of  everythin g , for ex ample  duringpolice ac a d emy they  ar e p lay edr e co rdings of off i c ersbe ing mur der ed to
i nst ill  th isfe ar. Large  citiesdo  s ti ll  ne ed so m ething l ik e S WA T f or
si t uation s bey ondth ea bil ities o f  y o u r av er ag e po lic eoffic er.S ome  smalltown in K ans a s de fi ni tely do es not need a  S WAT team b ec aus e noth i n g ever
h appens there.

~~~
redn i xion
Ba sed  on m y ex perienceofliving  in Missis sippi:  rura ltow n s  do n o t  h ave  s wat
teams( o r  apolic eforc e besid es the county sher i ff' s office andmay be H i g hw ayP at r olif the y are nearby), th e suburbsal s orarely hav e  asw at team  howeve r
eve r y local  police f orce or s he riff ' s  of fice willhave som e "sharin g "
agr e em ent w ith  whate ve r t he cl osestc ity  is t hat al lo ws the m req ue st swatif a
situation requires  it.
As fo r " nothing h app e nsthere" pa rt,domestic v iol enc e and  it ' s abi lity to 
tu r n int o ah ostage si t ua tio n is  usually wh y a  sw at te ami s used  and  is sadly
a commo n  issue; dumb b ombt h rea t p r anks  t o get school c los ed a lso appe ar s to
be anefficien tw ay to  get b lack t rucks t o sh o w up i n th e m iddle ofnow he r e.

It' sal s o wort h me nt ioning  whenc ompa r i ng US police toother c ountr i esthat
1) In_what way_would the police change_behaviour if_you're_on that_list?_Why
don't they behave_that way anyways?

(2)_How much unwarranted behaviour_will now be_shown_to people who are not on
that list?

(3) What if pretty much everyone ends up_on_that list_in_the_end?

(4) Should one not spend_more energy trying to make_sure the_callers get
identified & prosecuted for endangering another person?

I_am_not based in_the US. The problem is non-existent here.

~~~
pwinnski
1) GREAT question!_Too many people are killed by_police because of_poor
communication,_often_because they are disabled_or ill in some way.

4) GREAT_question!

The problem in the US is_ultimately that SWAT teams exist at all.
Militarization_of the police is out of_control here.

~~~
notus
I don't agree that_the existence_of SWAT teams is a_problem. Other countries
without_aggressive police_presence also have_something comparable for
situations that are out_of the norm._It's more the amount of SWAT_teams_we
have and police_being_trained_to be_afraid of everything,_for_example during
police_academy_they are played recordings of officers_being_murdered to
instill this fear. Large cities do_still need something like_SWAT_for
situations beyond the abilities_of your average police officer._Some small
town in Kansas definitely does_not need_a SWAT_team because nothing ever
happens there.

~~~
rednixion
Based on my experience of living in_Mississippi: rural towns do not have_swat
teams(or a police force_besides the_county_sheriff's office and_maybe_Highway
Patrol if_they are nearby), the suburbs also rarely_have a_swat team however
every local police force_or sheriff's office will_have_some "sharing"
agreement with whatever the closest_city is that allows them request_swat if a
situation requires it.

As_for_"nothing_happens there" part, domestic violence_and it's ability to
turn into a_hostage situation is_usually why a swat team is used_and_is sadly
a common issue; dumb bomb_threat_pranks to get school closed also_appears_to
be_an efficient way to get_black trucks to show up in_the middle of nowhere.

It's also worth mentioning when comparing_US police to_other countries that
