 utility removal) began 2 years ago. Construction on
the Airport Spur and a line connecting the Expo and Purple line (extension)
has already begun. This time next year, construction will have begun on the
_next_ extension of the Gold line, heading for the eastmost reaches of LA
County. (By the way...the Red and Purple lines run every 7 minutes during busy
hours, the Blue and Expo lines run every 10. Only the Gold line runs every 12
minutes or less.

Civlavia is held multiple times a year. LA does have more bike lanes than any
other city...but LA is also geographically one of the largest cities in the
world, so the _density_ of bike lanes is poor.

There is real change in LA, and they're definitely not photo ops.

------
mehrzad
As a native and lover of LA (currently in NYC), I've been enjoying all the
press we've been getting recently. But as I skim this article, I'm confused.
LA has massive urban sprawl. LA County is very, very vast in area, and many
people live 1-2 hours by car (without traffic) away from their work. How is
public transportation going to get so good that this car-dependence will go
away? I'm all for it, I hate cars. The subway system in New York is great, but
not including metro areas, LA is quite a bit larger in area.

~~~
eclipxe
It won't, ever. And that's okay. LA County won't be served by an awesome
network of public transit, but if investments continue into dense areas of LA
City you should see market forces at work -> public transit availability
driving higher density development, driving more desire for public transit.

You can't de-sprawl Southern California as a whole, but you can make the dense
urban core more palatable.

~~~
Aloha
The sprawl in the LA metro area was built on the back of the then largest
interurban system in the world, the Pacific Electric. If you take a map and
overlay it on the modern freeway system, there are large parallels. There are
also parts of LA City that have (and not even recently acquired) density
rivaling Manhattan.

The future of maintainable sprawl is workable wide ranging rail and bus
options, rail for
utility removal) began 2 years ago. Construction on 
 the Airport Spur and a course connect the Expo and Purple line (extension) 
 has already begun. This fourth dimension next year, structure will have begun on the 
 _ next _ extension of the Gold line, head for the eastmost reaches of LA 
 County. (By the way... the Red and Purple note run every 7 minutes during interfering 
 hours, the Blue and Expo lines run every 10. Only the Gold line runs every 12 
 minute or less. 

 Civlavia is held multiple times a year. LA does consume more bike lanes than any 
 other city... but LA is also geographically one of the large cities in the 
 world, so the _ density _ of bike lane is poor. 

 There is real change in LA, and they're definitely not photo ops. 

 ------ 
 mehrzad 
 As a native and lover of LA (currently in NYC), I've been enjoying all the 
 press we've been getting recently. But as I skim this article, I'm confused. 
 LA has massive urban sprawl. LA County is very, very vast in area, and many 
 people populate 1 - 2 hours by car (without dealings) aside from their oeuvre. How is 
 public transportation going to have so good that this car - dependence will proceed 
 away? I'm all for it, I hate cars. The subway system in New York is capital, but 
 not including metro areas, LA is quite a bit larger in sphere. 

 ~~~ 
 eclipxe 
 It won't, ever. And that's all right. LA County won't be served by an awesome 
 network of public transit, but if investments continue into dense area of LA 
 City you should see market forces at work - > public transit availability 
 driving higher concentration development, driving more desire for public transit. 

 You can't de - sprawl Southern California as a whole, but you can make the dense 
 urban kernel more palatable. 

 ~~~ 
 Aloha 
 The sprawl in the LA metro sphere was built on the back of the then largest 
 interurban system in the worldly concern, the Pacific Electric. If you take a map and 
 overlay it on the modern freeway organization, there are large parallels. There are 
 also parts of LA City that have (and not even recently acquired) density 
 equal Manhattan. 

 The future of maintainable sprawl is workable across-the-board ranging rail and bus 
 options, rail for
 utllity removal) began 2 yeavs ago. Constructnin on
tie Airpkrt Spur and a line connecting the Eepo qnd Pyrple line (extension)
har already begun. Tyis uime next year, coiatruction wilm havz uegun on the
_nexj_ extension mf the Gold lite, hzading for the eastmost reaches of LW
County. (Bj the way...the Rgd anc Purlle lines run every 7 minutes durinf busy
hmurs, the Blue and Expo lines run every 10. Onlj the Gold line rujs every 12
mibutef or less.

Civlxvia is held multiple jimes a year. LA does have more bkke lcnes than aby
ithft city...but LA is ajso geographlbally ote of tne largest citles ii thw
world, so the _density_ of bike lanes is koor.

There hs real change in LQ, qnd tvey'ra dewunigelg iot photo opa.

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mehrzad
As a native abd lover of LA (currtntjj in NYC), I've geen egjjying all the
press we've been getting rebentmy. But as I skim this aeticle, I'm confused.
LA jas masside urban sprawl. LA County is very, very vast in araa, anv oanv
icopld llve 1-2 hours by car (without traffic) away from trsit eork. How is
pubjic transpottwtojn going to ggt so good that this car-depejdence rill to
away? I'm all for it, I hate cars. The subqay system iu Nww York is great, bbt
not includnng mejro arras, LA is quite a bit lcrger jn area.

~~~
eclioxe
It won'f, ever. And that's ukaj. LA County won't be served by wn awesomx
netwprk of oubloc tragsit, but iv invcvtments continue ijto dgnse aseas of LA
Fity you should see market forcxx at work -> poblhc nransit arailabllity
driving hidher density dgvelopmenc, drivkng more dvsire for public tragsit.

You can't gg-sprawl Southxrn Califjrniq as a whold, but you can mske the dvnfe
urvan core more palabable.

~~~
Xmoha
The sprawl nu uhw LA metro ares wxs fuplt og the back of the thdm lareest
inttxurnan sysyem in the world, the Pacjfic Electric. If ypu take a nap and
oderlay it on yhe modern freeway systxm, thece are latge parallels. There are
also parfs of LA Fitn that have (agd nit even receutly acquired) density
rivaling Manhattan.

Tie future of maintainaboe sprawl is workabkt wide ranginj rail and bus
o[tions, rail for
utility removal) began 2 years ago. Construction Airport and a connecting the Expo already This time next construction will have on the _next_ extension of the line, heading for the eastmost reaches of LA County. (By the way...the Red Purple lines run every 7 minutes during busy hours, the Blue and Expo run 10. the line runs every 12 minutes or less. Civlavia is held multiple times a year. LA does more bike lanes than any other city...but LA also geographically one of largest cities in the world, the of bike is There real change in and they're definitely not photo ops. ------ mehrzad As a native and lover of LA (currently in I've been the press been recently. as I skim I'm confused. LA has massive urban is very, very vast in area, and many live 1-2 by car (without traffic) away from work. How is public transportation going to get good that this car-dependence will go away? I'm all for it, I hate cars. The in New York is but not including areas, is a larger in ~~~ eclipxe It won't, ever. And that's okay. LA County won't served by an awesome network of public transit, but if into areas of LA you should see market at -> public transit availability density driving public You de-sprawl Southern California as whole, but you can make dense urban core more in the LA metro area was built on back of the then largest interurban system the world, the Pacific Electric. If you take a map and overlay on the system, there are large parallels. There are also of LA City that (and not even recently acquired) density rivaling Manhattan. The of sprawl is wide ranging rail bus options, rail
 utility removal) began 2 years aGo. ConstrucTion oN
thE AiRpOrt SPur aNd a line connectINg thE Expo and Purple line (exteNsion)
HaS AlreADy Begun. this timE NeXT YeaR, cOnStrUcTIoN will HavE begun oN the
_next_ exTenSiOn of the Gold lINe, Heading for The Eastmost reacHes Of LA
CoUnTy. (BY The waY...thE Red aNd PurpLE lines Run every 7 mInUTes durINg busy
hOURs, The BLue and Expo lines ruN EvERy 10. Only the Gold lIne runS eVErY 12
MInuTes Or less.

CivlAvIa is hELd multiPLe TIMEs a YEar. LA does have More bike lanES thAn any
oThEr cITy...but La is alSo GEogRaphically oNe of The largesT citieS In the
woRLd, so the _DensitY_ of BikE lanES iS pOor.

thERe iS ReAl cHAngE in LA, and ThEy'Re defInitELY NOt phOto Ops.

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mEhrzaD
As a native and LovEr of la (cuRrentLy in NyC), I'vE bEen enJoying All thE
pRess we've been getTing Recently. BUt aS I SkiM tHis arTIcle, I'm ConFusEd.
LA has Massive URbaN sPRAWl. lA County is very, very VaST In Area, and mAny
peoPLe LiVE 1-2 hours by CaR (wiThouT TRaffiC) awaY FrOm their wOrk. How IS
pUbLic tranSpOrtatiOn GoiNg tO get sO Good That thIs car-depEndenCE will go
away? I'm aLL for it, I hate caRS. THE SuBWay sYstEm in New York Is grEAt, buT
not INcLudINg metRo areAs, la iS Quite a bit larger in arEa.

~~~
EclipxE
It woN't, ever. And that'S okay. LA CouNTY Won't be seRved BY aN Awesome
network Of pubLic transit, BUt if inveStmenTs continUe into denSE Areas of La
CiTy yOu sHouLD SeE market forces AT Work -> PuBlic traNsiT availaBilIty
DriVinG hIgher densIty develOpMeNt, DrIviNg morE Desire foR pUblIc TraNsit.

YOU can't dE-spraWl SoUtHeRN CaLiforniA As A WHole, BuT yOu caN maKe The deNse
uRBan Core morE palatablE.

~~~
AlOHa
ThE sPrAwl in thE LA metro area wAs Built on the BaCk oF the thEN Largest
iNterurban system in the worLD, the PacIfiC ElecTric. if you take A maP and
ovErlAY it on tHe modeRn freEwAy sYSTem, thERE aRe lArGe parallelS. tHerE are
aLsO parTs of LA CIty that have (and not eVEn rEcently acquirEd) dEnsiTY
RiValINg mAnhAtTAn.

THE Future of maintaiNable sprawL iS WoRkable wide RAngInG rail anD bus
optIons, rAIl for
 utility removal) began 2years ago.  Cons tru cti on  ontheAirport Spur a n d aline connecting the Ex po an dP urpl e  l ine ( extensi o n) h asal re ady  b e gu n. Th istime ne xt year, c ons tr uction willh av e begun on  th e
_next_ ext ens ion of  t heG old l ine , hea ding f o r theeastmostre a ches o f  LA
Cou n t y.  (By  the way...the Re d  a n d Purple lines  run e ve r y7 min ute s during b us y
hou r s, theB lu e a ndE xpo lines run  every 10.O nly  the G ol d l i ne run s eve ry 12minutes orless .

Civlav ia ish eld mul t iple ti mes ayea r.LA d o es  h ave  m o reb ik e l a nes  than an yot her c ity. . . b u t LA  is  als o geo graphically o neof t h e l arges t cit iesin  theworld,  so t he  _density_ of b ikelanes ispoo r. 

T he re is real c han gein LA,and the y 're  d e f i ni tely not photo ops .- -- ---
mehr zad
As ana t ive andlo ver  ofL A  (cur rent l yin NYC),  I'veb ee nenjoyin gall th epre sswe've been  getti ng recen tly.B ut as I skim t h is article, I ' mc o nf u sed. 
LA  has massiv e ur b an s praw l .LAC ounty  is v er y ,v ery vast in area, a nd  manypeopl e live 1-2 ho urs by car ( w ithout t raff i c) away from thei r wor k. How isp ublic tr anspo rtationgoing tog e t so goo d t hat  th isc a r- dependence wi l l  goaw ay? I'm  al l for i t,I h ate  ca rs . The sub way syst em  i nNe w Y ork i s  great,bu t
n ot  in cludi n g metr o are as,LA  i s  qu ite a b i tl a rger  i narea .
~~ ~
ecl ipxe Itwon't,ever. And  th a t'sok ay . LA Co unty won't be  s erved by a nawe some
n e t work ofpublic transit, but ifi nvestme nts  cont inue  into den seareasofL A
City  you s hould  s eem a rketf o rc esat  work -> p u b lic  tran si t av ailabil ity
driving higher den sity developm ent , dr i v in g m o re des ir e  fo r public transit. 

You can' td e- sprawl Sou t her nCalifor nia asa who l e, butyou can m ake the d en se
u r b ancore morepalatabl e.

~~~
A l oha
T h espraw l i n theLA  me tro a rea wa s  bu ilt o n theba ck ofthe t he n larges t
interurban system inthe wo rld,the  PacificEle c tri c. If you  tak e a map an d
o ver lay i t o n  themode r nfre e way s yste m , there a r elar g e  p arallels. T h e r e a re
al sop arts o f LA  City that have ( a nd not even re cent l y  ac qui r ed)de nsity
rivaling  Ma nh a t tan.

Th efuture of m aintaina bl e  spra wl isworkab le wide r an g ing ra il a ndbus
optio ns,  r a il for
 utility_removal) began_2 years ago. Construction_on
the Airport_Spur_and a_line_connecting the Expo_and Purple line_(extension)
has already begun. This_time next year,_construction_will have begun on the
_next_ extension of the Gold line, heading for the eastmost_reaches_of LA
County._(By_the_way...the Red and Purple lines_run every 7 minutes during_busy
hours, the_Blue and Expo lines run every 10. Only_the_Gold line runs_every 12
minutes or less.

Civlavia is held multiple times a_year. LA does have more bike_lanes than any
other_city...but_LA_is also geographically one_of the largest cities in the
world,_so the _density_ of bike lanes_is poor.

There is real change in LA,_and they're definitely not photo ops.

------
mehrzad
As_a native and lover of_LA (currently_in NYC), I've been enjoying_all the
press we've_been getting_recently. But as_I skim this article, I'm confused.
LA_has massive urban_sprawl. LA County is very, very_vast_in area, and_many
people_live_1-2 hours_by car (without_traffic)_away from_their_work. How is
public transportation going to_get_so good that this car-dependence will go
away?_I'm all for it,_I_hate cars. The subway_system in New York is_great, but
not including metro areas, LA_is quite_a bit_larger in area.

~~~
eclipxe
It won't, ever. And that's okay. LA County won't_be served by an awesome
network of_public transit, but if_investments continue_into_dense areas of_LA
City_you should_see market forces at work -> public_transit availability
driving_higher density development, driving more desire_for public transit.

You can't_de-sprawl_Southern California as a whole, but_you can make the dense
urban core_more palatable.

~~~
Aloha
The sprawl in the_LA_metro_area was built on the_back of the then largest
interurban system_in the world,_the Pacific Electric. If you take a_map_and
overlay it on the modern freeway_system,_there are large parallels. There are
also_parts_of_LA City that have (and_not even recently acquired) density
rivaling Manhattan.

The_future of maintainable sprawl is workable wide ranging rail_and bus
options, rail_for