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fall](https://www.lrb.co.uk/v40/n13/john-lanchester/after-the-fall)

It really does feel that the university crowd (which I'm a part of) have
completely detached from the lives of large chunks of the rest of the country.
I get that this account of Amazon workplaces may be rose-tinted. Perhaps this
facility is run by a good manager, and others aren't. But as it says, for this
to be a specific kind of evil it needs to be compared to all other jobs in a
similar environment. There are things that can be made better, sure, as there
always are. But I find quite a bit of this middle-class hand-wringing tricky
because it always seems to be well-paid journalists going "undercover". They'd
probably find any manual labour degrading when compared to their comfortable
Aeron chairs and plate-glass offices.

~~~
brownbat
That University disconnect is powerful and cuts across issues.

I remember hearing a freshman lawmaker talk about transitioning from other
fields into politics. The first thing campaign advisers did was cut all
references to advanced degrees from her website, replacing them with stories
about how her grandfather was a farmer.

30 Rock's Duffy--a caricature of someone unrelatable--described his politics
as "Fiscal liberal, social conservative" in one throwaway joke.[0]

I thought it was pretty clever at the time, but the college-educated writers
of 30 Rock and I probably underestimated the relatability of Duffy's position.

I read a political attitudes survey a few years later that contrasted beliefs
of constituents with representatives. It found that Republican constituencies
are far more sympathetic to large government programs and redistribution than
their reps, and Democratic constituencies are far more supportive of morality-
based restrictions and social regulations than their reps would suggest.

Maybe most of the population is far more like Duffy, but education operates as
a filter, making you either passionate about fiscal responsibility from econ
classes, or passionate about social freedom and tolerance from liberal arts
classes, or some mix of both.

That is likely to cause some friction.

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 fall](https://www.lrb.co.uk / v40 / n13 / john - lanchester / after - the - fall) 

 It really does feel that the university crowd (which I'm a part of) have 
 wholly detach from the lives of large ball of the respite of the country. 
 I get that this score of Amazon workplace may be rose - tinted. Perhaps this 
 facility is run by a adept manager, and others aren't. But as it says, for this 
 to be a specific kind of evil it want to be compare to all other jobs in a 
 similar environment. There are things that can be make better, sure, as there 
 always are. But I line up quite a bit of this middle - class hand - contort tricky 
 because it always seems to be well - paid journalists going " clandestine ". They'd 
 probably find any manual labour degrading when compared to their comfortable 
 Aeron chairs and home plate - glass offices. 

 ~~~ 
 brownbat 
 That University disconnect is powerful and cuts across issues. 

 I remember hearing a freshman lawmaker lecture about transition from other 
 field into politics. The beginning thing campaign adviser did was cut all 
 reference to advanced degrees from her web site, replacing them with stories 
 about how her grandfather was a farmer. 

 30 Rock's Duffy -- a caricature of someone unrelatable -- described his politics 
 as " Fiscal liberal, social conservative " in one throwaway joke.[0 ] 

 I thought it was pretty clever at the time, but the college - educated writers 
 of 30 Rock and I probably underestimate the relatability of Duffy's position. 

 I take a political attitudes survey a few years later that contrasted belief 
 of constituents with representatives. It found that Republican constituency 
 are far more sympathetic to big government programs and redistribution than 
 their rep, and Democratic constituencies are far more supportive of morality- 
 base restrictions and social regulations than their rep would suggest. 

 possibly most of the population is far more like Duffy, but education operates as 
 a filter, making you either passionate about fiscal responsibility from econ 
 class, or passionate about social freedom and tolerance from liberal arts 
 classes, or some mix of both. 

 That is probable to cause some friction. 

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It really does heel that the university crowd (dhich I'm w part od) hate
completely detedhed from the pivev of large chunls of the sest of the cogngrv.
I get that this account of Amazon wjrkplacrs may be rose-tigted. [erhzis this
facility is run by a goos managtr, and others aren'y. But as it says, for this
tl be a specific kind ov evil it ngsds ro be compardd to all other jobs ih a
similar environment. There ard thiugs that cab ve ldde better, wure, ws there
alwanx are. Tut I fond quite a bib of vhis middle-class hand-wrinjing tricky
because ij always saejs to be well-paid jiurnanistv gokbg "jndtrcpvsr". Thej'd
pcobably fins any manuao labour degrading ehqb compared to their cjmfortable
Aeron chairs and plate-glass oxfides.

~~~
brownbat
That Universuty disconnect is powgrful and suts across issues.

I remember hearing a freshman ldwmakxr taok xvokt transitioning from other
fields into politisa. Uhe first thing ccmpaign advisers dld ras cut all
rewerencza fo advanced degreed from rer wwbsite, reklacimg them with stories
about hiw her grandyatyer was a farmer.

30 Rlck's Duffy--a carocatute of someone unrelatabue--deacribed his politics
zr "Fiscal liberal, sobial conservative" in one throwwway joke.[0]

M thobght it das kretty slever at hhe tlke, but the college-fducajed wrhters
of 30 Rlck and I probably underestimatxv the relatabolhty of Duffv's posltion.

I read a pjlitical attitodes survzy a fdw years lzter thet contrasteq beliefs
of cmjstituents wmth reprefentqtivws. It fujnd that Repubkican constituenciew
are far more sympethejid to large govexumtnr programs and reaiserpbuvion evan
their repv, ana Ddkocragic constitmenzies are far more suppordive of morality-
based teftrictiobs and sjcial regulatoons than their reks wound ruggext.

Mwybe most of the population is far more lihe Duffy, but edugatijn operatex as
a filter, making you either passionave about fiscal responsubility from econ
clcsxes, or passmonate about sowial freedom and tolwrance from libersl arts
classes, or soms mix mf bohh.

That is likely to cause some friction.

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It really does feel thaT the uNiVErsiTY cRowd (wHich I'm a PArT OF) haVe
CoMplEtELy DetacHed From the Lives of larGe cHuNks of the rest OF tHe country.
I Get That this accoUnt Of AmazOn WorKPlaceS maY be roSe-tintED. PerhaPs this
facIlITy is ruN By a good MANaGer, aNd others aren't. But aS It SAys, for this
to be A speciFiC KiND Of eVil It needs to bE cOmparED to all oTHeR JOBs iN A
similar envirOnment. There ARe tHings tHaT caN Be made BetteR, sURe, aS there
alwayS are. but I find qUite a bIT of this MIddle-clAss hanD-wrIngIng tRIcKy
BecAuSE it ALwAys SEemS to be welL-pAiD jourNaliSTS GOing "UndErcoVer". ThEy'd
probably fiNd aNy maNUal LabouR degrAdinG wHen coMpared To theIr Comfortable
AeroN chaIrs and plaTe-gLaSs oFfIces.

~~~
bROwnbat
thaT UnIversitY disconNEct Is POWErFul and cuts across isSuES.

i rEmember hEaring A FrEsHMan lawmaKeR taLk abOUT tranSitiONiNg from otHer
fieLDs InTo politIcS. The fiRsT thIng CampaIGn adVisers Did was cuT all
rEFerences to advaNCed degrees froM HeR WEbSIte, rEplAcing them wiTh stORies
AbouT HoW heR GrandFatheR wAS a FArmer.

30 Rock's Duffy--a carIcAture oF someOne unrelatablE--described HIS Politics
As "FiSCaL Liberal, social cOnserVative" in onE ThrowawaY joke.[0]

i thought It was pretTY Clever at The TimE, buT thE COlLege-educated wRITers
Of 30 rock and i prObably uNdeResTimAteD tHe relatabIlity of DUfFy'S pOsItiOn.

I reAD a politiCaL atTiTudEs surVEy a few Years LateR tHaT ConTrasted BElIEFs
of CoNsTituEntS wIth rePresENtaTives. It Found that repUBlicAn CoNstitueNcies
are far moRe SympathetiC tO laRge govERNment proGrams and redistribution tHAn
their RepS, and DEmocRatic consTitUencieS arE Far morE suppoRtive Of MorALIty-
baSED rEstRiCtions and sOCIal RegulAtIons Than theIr reps would suggest.

mAybE most of the popUlaTion IS FaR moRE lIKe DUfFY, buT EDucation operateS as
a filter, MaKInG you either PAssIoNate aboUt fiscaL respONsibiliTy from ecoN
classes, oR pAssiONAte About sociaL freedom And toleraNCe froM LiBeral ArtS
classEs, Or sOme miX of botH.

thaT is liKely to CaUse somE fricTiOn.

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Itreallyd oe s fee lth atth e  u niver sit y crowd  (which I' m a  p art of) have co mpletely d eta ched from th e l ives o flar g e chu nks  of t he res t  of th e country .I  get t h at this a cc ount  of Amazon workpl a ce s  may be rose-t inted.  P e rh a p s t his 
facilityis  runb y a goo d  m a n a ger ,  and others a ren't. Buta s i t says ,for this
t o beas pec ific kind o f ev il it nee ds tob e compa r ed to a ll oth erjob s in asi mil ar env i ro nme n t.There ar eth ingsthat c a n  bemad e be tter,  sure, as the realwa y s a re. B ut Ifind  q uitea bitof th is  middle-class h and- wringingtri ck y
b ec ausei t alwa yssee ms to b e well- p aid  j o u r na lists going "under co v e r" . They'd 
proba b ly  f i nd any m an ual  lab o u r deg radi n gwhen com paredt oth eir com fo rtable 
A ero n c hairs andplate- glass of fices . 

~~~
brownbat That Universi t yd i sc o nnec t i s powerfulandc utsacro s siss u es.
I rem em b er hearing a freshmanla wmaker  talk  about transi tioning fr o m other
fi elds in t o politics. Th e fir st thing c a mpaign a dvise rs did w as cut al l referenc estoadv anc e d  d egrees from h e r  web si te, rep lac ing the m w ith  st ori es 
about ho w her gr an df at he r w as af armer.
30  Ro ck 'sDuffy - -a car icatu re o fso m eon e unrel a ta b l e--d es cr ibed  hi spolit icsa s " Fiscalliberal,soc i al c on se rvative " in one thro wa way joke.[ 0] 

I  thoug h t  it waspretty clever at the ti m e, butthe  coll ege- educatedwri ters
o f 3 0  Rockand Iproba bl y u n d erest i m at edth e relatabi l i tyof Du ff y'spositio n.

I read a polit i cal  attitudes su rve y af e wyea r sl ate rt hat c ontrasted belie fs
of cons ti t ue nts with r e pre se ntative s. It f oundt hat Rep ublican c onstituen ci es
a r e  fa r more sym pathetic  to large gover n me nt pr ogr ams an dred istri bution tha n
the ir rep s,  and D emocr at ic const ituencies are far moresuppor tiveofmorality- 
ba s edrestricti onsand social  re gul ation s t h an th eirr ep s w o uld s ugge s t.

Maybe mo sto f  t he populati o n isfar m ore like D uffy , but education o p erates as
a fi lter , mak ing youei ther passionat e a bo u t  fiscalre sponsibilit y from e co n 
clas ses, o r pass ionatea b ou t  socia l fr eed om and to ler an c e fromli be r al art s
cl as ses, o r some mixo f  both.

That islikel y to ca u sesomefr iction. 
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It really_does feel_that the university crowd_(which I'm_a_part of)_have
completely_detached from the_lives of large_chunks of the rest_of the country.
I_get_that this account of Amazon workplaces may be rose-tinted. Perhaps this
facility is run by_a_good manager,_and_others_aren't. But as it says,_for this
to be a specific_kind of_evil it needs to be compared to all_other_jobs in a
similar_environment. There are things that can be made better,_sure, as there
always are. But I_find quite a_bit_of_this middle-class hand-wringing tricky
because_it always seems to be well-paid_journalists going "undercover". They'd
probably find any_manual labour degrading when compared to their_comfortable
Aeron chairs and plate-glass offices.

~~~
brownbat
That University_disconnect is powerful and cuts_across issues.

I_remember hearing a freshman lawmaker_talk about transitioning_from other
fields_into politics. The_first thing campaign advisers did was_cut all
references to_advanced degrees from her website, replacing_them_with stories
about how_her_grandfather_was a_farmer.

30 Rock's Duffy--a_caricature_of someone_unrelatable--described_his politics
as "Fiscal liberal, social conservative"_in_one throwaway joke.[0]

I thought it was pretty_clever at the time,_but_the college-educated writers
of 30_Rock and I probably underestimated_the relatability of Duffy's position.

I read_a political_attitudes survey_a few years later that contrasted beliefs
of constituents with representatives. It_found that Republican constituencies
are far more_sympathetic to large government_programs and_redistribution_than
their reps, and_Democratic_constituencies are_far more supportive of morality-
based restrictions and_social regulations_than their reps would suggest.

Maybe most_of the population is_far_more like Duffy, but education operates_as
a filter, making you either passionate_about fiscal responsibility from econ
classes,_or_passionate_about social freedom and tolerance_from liberal arts
classes, or some mix_of both.

That is_likely to cause some friction.

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