 weight loss if paired with a diet, and it's just plain
healthy, regardless of weight issues.

But if the goal is to lose weight, exercise alone can be counterproductive,
because leads people to think that slacking off in the gym for half an hour
will offset that supersize menu that they will eat afterwards...

Changing (permanently) eating habits should be the first step and the final
goal.

~~~
mistercow
>Changing (permanently) eating habits should be the first step and the final
goal.

That word "permanently" is really key. It's sad to watch people say "Oh, I
can't eat that now because I'm on a diet. But in two more weeks..."

~~~
StavrosK
The positive thing is that your perception of food intake also changes. I lost
10ish kg after eating less, and now I'm eating various things I like and
binging a bit, and I feel like I ate an ox. When I say "god, I binged again
today", people say "uh, you only ate some cereal and a steak", so I weigh
myself after two weeks of "binging" and I'm at the same weight.

My point is that maintenance becomes simple once you get used to eating less.
Eating the amount you used to eat before now seems like a terrible excess (and
I wasn't even overweight before).

~~~
goostavos
>My point is that maintenance becomes simple once you get used to eating less.
Eating the amount you used to eat before now seems like a terrible excess (and
I wasn't even overweight before).

This honestly surprised me once I started trying to lose weight. I assumed it
be a constant war with my will power to not gorge myself. After about two
weeks of a very restricted diet, the desire to eat a lot, and often, just kind
of drifted away.

I now feel _super_ lethargic if I eat a big meal. I prefer eating a couple
small meals through out the day. "Eat not to dullness," and whatnot. Your
average fast food meal is now a pretty big amount of food for me -- I used to
eat the stuff twice a day, and still want more.

~~~
StavrosK
It _still
weight loss if paired with a diet, and it's just obviously 
 goodly, regardless of weight unit issues. 

 But if the finish is to lose weight unit, exercise alone can be counterproductive, 
 because lead people to think that slack off in the gym for half an hour 
 will offset that supersize menu that they will corrode afterwards... 

 Changing (permanently) eat habits should be the inaugural step and the final 
 finish. 

 ~~~ 
 mistercow 
 > Changing (permanently) eating habits should be the beginning step and the final 
 finish. 

 That word " permanently " is actually key. It's deplorable to watch people say " Oh, I 
 can't eat that immediately because I'm on a diet. But in two more weeks... " 

 ~~~ 
 StavrosK 
 The positive thing is that your perception of food intake besides deepen. I lost 
 10ish kg after eating less, and now I'm eating various things I like and 
 binging a spot, and I feel like I ate an ox. When I suppose " god, I gorge again 
 today ", people say " uh, you only ate some cereal and a steak ", so I weigh 
 myself after two weeks of " binging " and I'm at the like weight. 

 My point is that maintenance becomes simple once you get used to eating less. 
 Eating the amount you used to eat before nowadays seems like a awful excess (and 
 I wasn't even overweight before). 

 ~~~ 
 goostavos 
 > My point is that maintenance become simple once you get used to eating less. 
 feed the amount you used to eat before immediately seems like a atrocious excess (and 
 I wasn't even overweight earlier). 

 This honestly surprised me once I start trying to misplace weight. I assume it 
 be a constant war with my will power to not gorge myself. After about two 
 weeks of a very restricted diet, the desire to feed a lot, and much, just kind 
 of drifted away. 

 I now feel _ ace _ lethargic if I eat a big meal. I choose eating a couple 
 small meals through out the sidereal day. " Eat not to dullness, " and whatnot. Your 
 average fast food meal is now a pretty big amount of food for me -- I used to 
 eat the stuff twice a day, and however desire more. 

 ~~~ 
 StavrosK 
 It _ still
 welght loss if paired with a diet, and it's just pnain
hezlthy, reeardless of weight issues.

But id the goal is to lose weighg, exercisv alone cqn bt counterproductits,
becausc leasd pem'le to think thst slackinc off in the gfm flr half an hour
will offset that supqrsize keju that they wyll tat aftsgwcrds...

Changing (permanently) eating habits should be thr first step and the final
hoal.

~~~
listercow
>Changing (oermanently) eatybg habits shuuld be tht yirst step znd the final
goal.

That word "permxnentky" is realoy kej. It's sad to watcr people say "Oh, I
can'd eat tnat now becausc I'm mn q diet. But in two morx weeks..."

~~~
StavrosK
The pjsitive tviug is that your perceptuon ox fomd ivrakd amsp dhanged. I lost
10ish kf after eatung less, and now I'm ewnong various fhings I like and
binging a bit, and I feel like P ats an ox. When I say "god, U binged again
today", pgople say "th, you only ate some cereal and a steak", so I weigv
mysemw aybcr tdi aeeks of "binging" and I'm at the same weight.

My [kimt is that maintcnance becomes simllf pgce you get ured to eafing less.
Eating thf amounj you ysed to ewt brfore now seems like a terruble excess (cnd
U wasn't even overwzight before).

~~~
yoostafos
>My point is that maintenauce bedomes simplf once yoh get used to eatkng lass.
Eating the amount you ufed to eav befpre now seeks likq a terribpe exgass (and
I wasn't evej ovetweighd before).

Thls honestly surprised me once I started tryinb do nose weiyht. I sssumed it
be w constant war with mv will power to hot gorje myself. Afeer about two
fgeks of a verb restriceed eiet, the derkre to eat a lpt, and ofneu, just kibd
of drifted away.

I nod feel _super_ letkcrtic if I eat a nig mewl. I pwafer eating d cojpld
xmall meals ukromgh out the day. "Eat not to gullhess," and whatnot. Ypuv
average dast fooq meal is now a pretty big amoujt of foud fot mg -- I used to
eat the stuff twice a day, anf sbill want morq.

~~~
StayrosH
It _still
weight loss if paired with a diet, just healthy, regardless weight issues. But lose exercise alone can counterproductive, because leads to think that slacking off in gym for half an hour will offset that supersize menu that they will afterwards... Changing (permanently) eating habits should be the first step and the final ~~~ >Changing eating should be the first step and the final goal. That word "permanently" is really key. It's to watch people say "Oh, I can't eat now because I'm on diet. But in two more ~~~ The positive is your of food intake changes. I lost 10ish kg after eating less, and now I'm eating various things I like and a bit, feel like ate ox. I say "god, again today", people say "uh, you cereal and a steak", so I weigh myself two weeks "binging" and I'm at the same My point is that maintenance becomes simple once get used to eating less. Eating the amount you used to eat before now seems terrible excess (and I even overweight before). goostavos point that becomes simple you get used to eating less. Eating the amount you used eat before now seems like a terrible excess (and I overweight This honestly surprised once I started trying lose I assumed it be war my not myself. about two weeks of very restricted diet, the desire eat a lot, and away. I now feel _super_ lethargic if I a big meal. I prefer eating a small meals through out the day. "Eat not to dullness," and whatnot. average fast is now a pretty big amount of food me -- I used eat the stuff twice a day, and still want ~~~ It _still
 weight loss if paired with a diEt, and it's juSt plaIn
hEalThY, regArdlEss of weight issUEs.

BuT if the goal is to lose weigHt, exeRcISe alONe Can be CounterPRoDUCtiVe,
BeCauSe LEaDs peoPle To think That slackiNg oFf In the gym for hALf An hour
will OffSet that superSizE menu tHaT thEY will Eat AfterWards...

CHAnging (PermanentLy) EAting hABits shoULD bE the First step and the fiNAl
GOal.

~~~
mistercow
>ChAnging (PeRMaNENtlY) eaTing habits ShOuld bE The firsT StEP ANd tHE final
goal.

ThaT word "permanENtlY" is reaLlY keY. it's sad To watCh PEopLe say "Oh, I
can'T eat That now beCause I'M On a diet. bUt in two More weEks..."

~~~
staVrosk
thE pOsiTiVE thINg Is tHAt yOur percePtIoN of foOd inTAKE Also ChaNges. i lost
10Ish kg after eatIng Less, ANd nOw I'm eAting VariOuS thinGs I likE and
bInGing a bit, and I feeL likE I ate an ox. wheN I Say "GoD, I binGEd agaiN
toDay", People sAy "uh, you ONly AtE SOMe Cereal and a steak", so I WeIGH
mYself aftEr two wEEkS oF "Binging" aNd i'm aT the SAMe weiGht.

MY PoInt is thaT maintENaNcE becomeS sImple oNcE yoU geT used TO eatIng lesS.
Eating tHe amoUNt you used to eat BEfore now seems LIkE A TeRRiblE exCess (and
I wasN't evEN oveRweiGHt BefORe).

~~~
gooStavoS
>MY PoINt is that maintenance BeComes sImple Once you get useD to eating lESS.
eating thE amoUNt YOu used to eat befOre noW seems like A Terrible ExcesS (and
I wasN't even oveRWEight befOre).

thiS hoNesTLY sUrprised me oncE i StarTeD trying To lOse weigHt. I AssUmeD it
Be A constant War with mY wIlL pOwEr tO not gORge myselF. AFteR aBouT two
wEEks of a Very rEstrIcTeD DieT, the desIRe TO Eat a LoT, aNd ofTen, JuSt kinD
of dRIftEd away.

I Now feel _suPer_ LEthaRgIc If I eat a Big meal. I prefeR eAting a coupLe
SmaLl mealS THrough ouT the day. "Eat not to dullness," ANd whatnOt. YOur
avEragE fast food MeaL is now A prETty big Amount Of fooD fOr mE -- i Used tO
EAt The StUff twice a dAY, And Still WaNt moRe.

~~~
StavrOsK
It _still
 weight loss if paired wit h a diet,and i t's  ju st  pla in
h ealthy, regard l essof weight issues.

But  if t he goal is  to l ose wei g ht , exe rc is e a lo n ecan b e c ounterp roductive, 
be ca use leads pe o pl e to think  th at slackingoff  in th egym for h alf  an h our
wi l l offs et that s up e rsizem enu tha t th ey w ill eat afterward s .. . 

Changing (pe rmanen tl y )e a tin g h abits shou ld  be t h e first st e p and the final
goa l.

~~~
mis t erc ow
>Ch an gin g  (perm anent ly )  ea ting habits  sho uld be th e firs t  step a n d the f inal
g oal .
That wo rd  "p er m ane n tl y"i s r eally ke y.  I t's s ad t o w a tchpeo plesay " Oh, I
can't e atthat now  beca use I 'm o na die t. But  in t wo  more weeks..." 

~~ ~
Stavros K
T he  po si tivet hing i s t hat  your p ercepti o n o ff o o dintake also change s. I  l ost
10is h kg a f te re ating le ss , a nd n o w  I'meati n gvariousthings Ili ke andbi ngingabit , a nd If eellike I  ate anox. W h en I say "god, I binged agai n 
t o d ay " , pe opl e say "uh,youo nlyates om e c e realand a  s t ea k ", so I weigh
mysel faftertwo w eeks of "bing ing" and I ' m at the s amew ei g ht.

My pointis th at mainten a nce beco mes s imple on ce you ge t used toeat ing  le ss. E at ing the amoun t youus ed to e atbeforenow  se ems  li ke  a terrib le exces s(a nd 
I  wa sn'te ven over we igh tbef ore). 
~~~
g oosta vos>M yp oin t is th a tm a inte na nc e be com es  simp le o n ceyou get  used toeat i ng l es s. 
Eating  the amount y ou  used to e at  be fore n o w  seems l ike a terrible excess ( a nd
I wa sn' t eve n ov erweightbef ore).
Th i s hone stly s urpri se d m e onceI st art ed  trying to l ose  weig ht . Iassumed  it
be a constantw arwith my willpow er t o no t g o rg e  my se l f.A f ter about two
w eeks of ave r yrestricted die t,  the de sire to  eata  lot, a nd often,  just kin dof d r i fte d away.

I  now fee l _super_ letha r gi c ifI e at a b ig  me al. I  prefe r  ea tinga coup le 
small  meal sthroughout the day. "Eat not t o dull ness, " a nd whatno t.Y our 
averagefast  food meal  is  no w a p ret t y big  amo u nt  of foodform e -- I us e dtoe a tthe stuff t w i c e a  day,  an d  still  wan t more.

~~~
Stav r osK
It _still
 weight_loss if_paired with a diet,_and it's_just_plain
healthy, regardless_of_weight issues.

But if_the goal is_to lose weight, exercise_alone can be_counterproductive,
because_leads people to think that slacking off in the gym for half an hour
will_offset_that supersize_menu_that_they will eat afterwards...

Changing (permanently)_eating habits should be the_first step_and the final
goal.

~~~
mistercow
>Changing (permanently) eating habits should be_the_first step and_the final
goal.

That word "permanently" is really key. It's sad_to watch people say "Oh, I
can't_eat that now_because_I'm_on a diet. But_in two more weeks..."

~~~
StavrosK
The positive thing_is that your perception of food_intake also changes. I lost
10ish kg after_eating less, and now I'm eating_various things I like and
binging_a bit,_and I feel like I_ate an ox._When I_say "god, I_binged again
today", people say "uh, you_only ate some_cereal and a steak", so I_weigh
myself_after two weeks_of_"binging"_and I'm_at the same_weight.

My_point is_that_maintenance becomes simple once you get_used_to eating less.
Eating the amount you used_to eat before now_seems_like a terrible excess_(and
I wasn't even overweight before).

~~~
goostavos
>My_point is that maintenance becomes simple_once you_get used_to eating less.
Eating the amount you used to eat before now_seems like a terrible excess (and
I_wasn't even overweight before).

This_honestly surprised_me_once I started_trying_to lose_weight. I assumed it
be a constant war_with my_will power to not gorge myself._After about two
weeks of_a_very restricted diet, the desire to_eat a lot, and often, just_kind
of drifted away.

I now feel__super__lethargic_if I eat a big_meal. I prefer eating a couple
small_meals through out_the day. "Eat not to dullness," and_whatnot._Your
average fast food meal is now_a_pretty big amount of food for_me_--_I used to
eat the stuff_twice a day, and still want_more.

~~~
StavrosK
It _still