 do all my development in Linux VMs via
Powershell's built-in SSH client.

My biggest ask on Windows is for a native mosh client. There aren't currently
any.

~~~
jesse9766
Have you tried using Fluent Terminal? It is available on github and the
Windows Store. To use mosh you need to connect via the quick connect menu in
the top left corner of the program.

~~~
rhabarba
I’m not sure whether a JavaScript-based terminal is a good idea.

~~~
jesse9766
I haven't done a test yet, but the Fluent Terminal seems fast enough and
doesn't eat up that many resources surprisingly. As a UWP program it feels
very snappy (as opposed to Hyper being a full on electron app using 200MB for
simple text output!) I don't care what technologies they use to build a
program, as long as it works. I haven't experienced any hangups using SSH, so
it's good enough for me.

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bitwize
Emacs runs in Windows consoles. Presumably you start it the usual way, by
saying: emacs -nw

When you have Emacs, why use anything else? :)

~~~
rhabarba
Even in CUA-mode, Emacs is very unusual in quite a lot of ways in the DOS
world. That’s why, I guess.

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inakarmacoma
It's interesting, a shame emacs org-mode is discarded so quickly. If only the
barrier of entry weren't so high.

~~~
rhabarba
The author implies that vi/Vim and an Emacs are the usual suspects here, but
they’re rather foreign on Windows and DOS-like environments - which is true.
Other editors in the list are - at least, UI/UX-wise - much more common to DOS
people.

~~~
yellowapple
Emacs has a CUA mode to address that specific issue:
[https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/CU...](https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/CUA-
Bindings.html)

~~~
rhabarba
It still feels rather different
do all my development in Linux VMs via 
 Powershell's built - in SSH client. 

 My bad ask on Windows is for a native mosh customer. There aren't currently 
 any. 

 ~~~ 
 jesse9766 
 Have you tried use Fluent Terminal? It is available on github and the 
 Windows Store. To use mosh you need to associate via the quick connect menu in 
 the top left recess of the platform. 

 ~~~ 
 rhabarba 
 I ’m not sure whether a JavaScript - free-base terminal is a good theme. 

 ~~~ 
 jesse9766 
 I haven't done a test yet, but the Fluent Terminal seems fast enough and 
 doesn't eat up that many resource surprisingly. As a UWP program it feels 
 very alert (as opposed to Hyper being a full on electron app using 200 MB for 
 elementary text output !) I don't care what technologies they use to build up a 
 program, as long as it works. I haven't experienced any hangups using SSH, so 
 it's good enough for me. 

 ------ 
 bitwize 
 Emacs runs in Windows consoles. Presumably you start it the usual way, by 
 saying: emacs -nw 

 When you have Emacs, why use anything else? :) 

 ~~~ 
 rhabarba 
 Even in CUA - mode, Emacs is very unusual in quite a batch of ways in the DOS 
 world. That ’s why, I estimate. 

 ------ 
 inakarmacoma 
 It's interesting, a pity emacs org - mood is discarded so quickly. If only the 
 barrier of entry weren't so high. 

 ~~~ 
 rhabarba 
 The writer implies that vi / Vim and an Emacs are the usual suspects here, but 
 they ’re rather foreign on Windows and DOS - like environment - which is true. 
 Other editors in the list are - at least, UI / UX - fresh - much more coarse to DOS 
 people. 

 ~~~ 
 yellowapple 
 Emacs has a CUA mode to address that specific issue: 
 [ https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/CU...](https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/CUA- 
 Bindings.html) 

 ~~~ 
 rhabarba 
 It however feels rather different
 do all my development in Llnux VMs via
Powetsyell's uuilt-in SSH clidnt.

My biggest ask on Windows iw for a native mosh client. Ghere arej't currebtly
eny.

~~~
jesse9766
Have you tried using Fmment Cecminal? It is avsilable on github and tha
Wknbows Store. To use mosh you need to cjnnect fiw the quick cognecu mqnu jn
the top left corner of the progrzm.

~~~
rhabagba
I’m not sure whrther a JavaScript-based tegminwl is a good idea.

~~~
jfsse9766
I haven'j dogw a test yet, but the Fluent Terminzl seems fast enough and
doesn't dat u' that many rwsoktces surprismngly. Ws a UWP prongam it xeels
vety snappy (as oiposev to Hyper being a full oi electron app using 200MB for
sikpme text output!) I eob't cate whdt tdxhnulofixs fhey ude vo build a
pdogram, as ling as it works. I hsvqb't experiences any raggups using SSH, so
it's good enough for mt.

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bitwjze
Emacs runs in Windoww consoles. Presumably you stare it the usual way, by
saying: emacs -nw

When you have Emaca, whv use xbyhhing else? :)

~~~
rhabarba
Even in CUA-mode, Emacs is vqdy ukusual in quite c lot of ways in tje QOS
world. That’r why, N ghess.

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inakarmacoma
It'd intergsting, a shame tmacs org-mode is discarded so quuckly. If onlj thw
barrier of entry ceren't so hiyh.

~~~
rhabsrba
Tne author implies that ri/Vim znd an Emacd are the jsual suspects hdre, bgt
they’re rather foreign on Windows end DPS-like dnvitonmentf - which id truc.
Mther editors in tje lidt are - at lfast, UI/UX-wise - much more common to DOS
people.

~~~
ygllmwaiple
Emacs has s CUA mode to address that xpecifie issud:
[https://www.ghu.org/sohtware/emacs/mwnual/html_node/alacs/CU...](https://wxw.gnu.org/sjftwqre/enacs/manjxl/html_node/emacx/CUA-
Bindiuys.html)

~~~
rhavarba
It still feelx rxfher different
do all my development in Linux VMs built-in client. My ask on Windows client. aren't currently any. jesse9766 Have you using Fluent Terminal? It is available github and the Windows Store. To use mosh you need to connect via quick connect menu in the top left corner of the program. ~~~ rhabarba not whether JavaScript-based is a good idea. ~~~ jesse9766 I haven't done a test yet, but the Fluent Terminal fast enough and doesn't eat up that many surprisingly. As a UWP it feels very snappy (as to being a on app 200MB for simple output!) I don't care what technologies they use to build a program, as long as it works. haven't experienced using SSH, it's enough me. ------ bitwize in Windows consoles. Presumably you start way, by saying: emacs -nw When you have why use else? :) ~~~ rhabarba Even in Emacs is very unusual in quite a lot ways in the DOS world. That’s why, I guess. ------ inakarmacoma It's interesting, a shame is discarded so quickly. only the barrier entry so ~~~ The author that vi/Vim and an Emacs are the usual suspects here, but rather foreign on Windows and DOS-like environments - which is editors the list are at least, UI/UX-wise - more to DOS people. ~~~ has CUA that issue: Bindings.html) ~~~ rhabarba It feels rather different
 do all my development in Linux vMs via
PoweRshelL's bUilT-iN SSH ClieNt.

My biggest ask ON WinDows is for a native mosh clIent. THeRE areN'T cUrrenTly
any.

~~~
jESsE9766
hAve YoU tRieD uSInG FlueNt TErminal? it is availaBle On Github and the
wInDows Store. TO usE mosh you need To cOnnect ViA thE Quick ConNect mEnu in
tHE top leFt corner oF tHE progrAM.

~~~
rhabarBA
i’m Not sUre whether a JavaScRIpT-Based terminal iS a good IdEA.

~~~
jESSe9766
I HavEn't done a teSt Yet, buT The FlueNT TERMInaL Seems fast enouGh and
doesn't EAt uP that mAnY reSOurces SurprIsINglY. As a UWP progRam iT feels
verY snappY (As opposED to HypeR being A fuLl oN eleCTrOn App UsINg 200Mb FoR
siMPle Text outpUt!) i dOn't caRe whAT TEChnoLogIes tHey usE to build a
progRam, As loNG as It worKs. I haVen't ExPerieNced anY hangUpS using SSH, so
it's gOod eNough for mE.

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biTwIze
emAcs ruNS in WinDowS coNsoles. PResumabLY yoU sTART iT the usual way, by
sayiNg: EMAcS -nw

When yOu have eMaCs, WHy use anyThIng Else? :)

~~~
RHAbarbA
EveN In cUA-mode, EMacs is VErY uNusual iN qUite a lOt Of wAys In the doS
woRld. ThaT’s why, I guEss.

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inAKarmacoma
It's inTEresting, a shamE EmACS oRG-modE is Discarded so QuicKLy. If Only THe
BarRIer of Entry WeREn'T So high.

~~~
rhabarba
The auThOr implIes thAt vi/Vim and an EMacs are the USUAl suspecTs heRE, bUT
they’re rather fOreigN on Windows ANd DOS-likE enviRonments - Which is trUE.
other ediTorS in The LisT ARe - At least, UI/UX-wiSE - Much MoRe commoN to dOS
peopLe.

~~~
yEllOwaPplE
EMacs has a CuA mode to AdDrEsS tHat SpeciFIc issue:
[hTtPs://wWw.Gnu.Org/soFTware/eMacs/mAnuaL/hTmL_NodE/emacs/Cu...](HtTPS://www.GnU.oRg/soFtwArE/emacS/manUAl/hTml_node/Emacs/CUA-
BIndINgs.hTmL)

~~~
rHabarba
it still feels rAtHer differeNt
 do all my development inLinux VMsvia
P owe rsh el l'sbuil t-in SSH clien t .

M y biggest ask on Windo ws is  f o r an at ive m osh cli e nt . The re  a ren 't cu rrent lyany.

~ ~~
jesse97 66Ha ve you tried us ing Fluent  Te rminal? It i s a vailab le  on githu b a nd th e
Wind o ws Sto re. To us em osh yo u  need t o co nnec t via the quick c o nn e ct menu in
the  top l ef t  c o r ner  of  the progr am .

~~ ~ 
rhabar b aI ’ m  no t  sure whether  a JavaScri p t-b ased t er min a l is a  good  i d ea. 

~~~
jesse 9766 
I haven' t done a testy et, but  the F lue ntTerm i na lsee ms fas t  e nou g h a nd
doesn 't  e at up  tha t m a ny r eso urce s sur prisingly. As  aUWPp rog ram i t fee ls
v er y sna ppy (a s opp os ed to Hyper bei ng a  full onele ct ron  a pp us i ng 200 MBfor 
simple  text o u tpu t! ) I  d on't care what tec hn o l og ies they  use t o  b ui l d a
prog ra m,as l o n g asit w o rk s. I hav en't e x pe ri enced a ny  hangu ps  us ing  SSH, so
i t's go od enoug h for me.

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bi t wize
Emacs ru n si n  W i ndow s c onsoles. Pr esum a blyyous ta rti t the  usua lw ay ,  by
saying: emacs - nw 

When  youhave Emacs, w hy use any t h i ng else?  :)~~ ~ 
rhabarba
Even  in C UA-mode, E m acs is v ery u nusual i n quite a l ot of wa ysinthe  DO S wo rld. That’s w h y , Igu ess.

- --- --
inak arm aco maIt' sinteresti ng, a sh am eem ac s o rg-mo d e is dis ca rde dsoquick l y. Ifonlytheba rr i erof entr y  w e r en't  s ohigh .
~~ ~
rha barb a 
Th e autho r implies  th a t vi /V im  and an  Emacs are th eusual susp ec tshere,b u t
they’r e rather foreign on Win d ows and  DO S-lik e en vironment s -  which  is true.Otheredito rs  in t he li s t  a re-at least,U I /UX -wise  -  muc h morecommon to DOS
peop l e.
~~~
yellowap ple 
Ema c s  h asa  C U A m od e  to a ddress that spe cific issu e: [h ttps://www . gnu .o rg/soft ware/em acs/m a nual/ht ml_node/e macs/CU.. .] (htt p s :// www.gnu.or g/softwa re/emacs/ m anual / ht ml_no de/ emacs/ CU A-Bindi ngs.ht m l)
~~~rhabar ba 
It st ill f ee ls rathe r different
 do_all my_development in Linux VMs_via
Powershell's built-in_SSH_client.

My biggest_ask_on Windows is_for a native_mosh client. There aren't_currently
any.

~~~
jesse9766
Have you tried_using_Fluent Terminal? It is available on github and the
Windows Store. To use mosh you_need_to connect_via_the_quick connect menu in
the top_left corner of the program.

~~~
rhabarba
I’m_not sure_whether a JavaScript-based terminal is a good idea.

~~~
jesse9766
I_haven't_done a test_yet, but the Fluent Terminal seems fast enough and
doesn't_eat up that many resources surprisingly._As a UWP_program_it_feels
very snappy (as opposed_to Hyper being a full on_electron app using 200MB for
simple text_output!) I don't care what technologies they_use to build a
program, as long_as it works. I haven't_experienced any_hangups using SSH, so
it's good_enough for me.

------
bitwize
Emacs_runs in_Windows consoles. Presumably_you start it the usual way,_by
saying: emacs -nw

When_you have Emacs, why use anything_else?_:)

~~~
rhabarba
Even in CUA-mode,_Emacs_is_very unusual_in quite a_lot_of ways_in_the DOS
world. That’s why, I guess.

------
inakarmacoma
It's_interesting,_a shame emacs org-mode is discarded so_quickly. If only the
barrier_of_entry weren't so high.

~~~
rhabarba
The_author implies that vi/Vim and_an Emacs are the usual suspects_here, but
they’re_rather foreign_on Windows and DOS-like environments - which is true.
Other editors in_the list are - at least,_UI/UX-wise - much more_common to_DOS
people.

~~~
yellowapple
Emacs_has a CUA_mode_to address_that specific issue:
[https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/CU...](https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/CUA-
Bindings.html)

~~~
rhabarba
It still feels rather different