 the
quality-of-user-experience Apple users are accustomed to. Hence the perception
that there is nowhere to run to.

~~~
GHFigs
_Micropayments could easily become a standard, expected part of iPhone use._

Given how everything else you've said hinges on this assumption, you'd have
done well to explain why you think it is true. Like I said before, you're
conflating two markets.

As it depends on all players in a highly competitive market suddenly colluding
to degrade the user experience upon which they all depend without anyone
realizing that they might stand to make more money by not doing so, I find it
hard to believe.

~~~
asciilifeform
> degrade the user experience upon which they all depend... I find it hard to
> believe.

Try this on for size:

[http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2008/11/apple-brings-
hdcp-...](http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2008/11/apple-brings-hdcp-to-a-
new-aluminum-macbook-near-you.ars)

~~~
GHFigs
That doesn't relate at all to anything I've said, nor does it reinforce your
point in the slightest. Your powers of misinterpretation are astounding and I
hope that in the future you will refrain from commenting anywhere on anything.

~~~
asciilifeform
The linked article shows an instance of Apple unambiguously, deliberately
degrading user experience. It is highly relevant to this discussion.

~~~
GHFigs
That's not a discussion that any of my posts in this thread have been about.

 
Someone Just Leaked Obama's Rules for Assassinating American Citizens - erichocean
http://reason.com/blog/2013/02/04/someone-just-leaked-obamas-rules-for-ass
======
ghshephard
For everybody commenting on this article, please take 45 minutes to read the
document. It applies only to the following scenario:

1) The US Citizen has to be a Sr. Operational Leader of al-Qa'ida.

2) An informed high level official of the US Government has determined that
the targeted individual poses an imminent threat of Violent
the 
 quality - of - user - experience Apple users are accustomed to. Hence the percept 
 that there be nowhere to run to. 

 ~~~ 
 GHFigs 
 _ Micropayments could easily become a standard, ask part of iPhone use. _ 

 give how everything else you've said hinges on this premise, you'd have 
 done well to explain why you intend it is true. Like I said before, you're 
 blend two markets. 

 As it depends on all players in a highly competitive market suddenly colluding 
 to degrade the exploiter experience upon which they all depend without anyone 
 realizing that they might stand to hold more money by not doing so, I find it 
 difficult to believe. 

 ~~~ 
 asciilifeform 
 > degrade the user experience upon which they all depend... I find it unvoiced to 
 > believe. 

 Try this on for size: 

 [ http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2008/11/apple-brings- 
 hdcp-... ](http://arstechnica.com / apple / news/2008/11 / apple - brings - hdcp - to - a- 
 new-aluminum-macbook-near-you.ars) 

 ~~~ 
 GHFigs 
 That doesn't relate at all to anything I've said, nor does it reinforce your 
 point in the slightest. Your powers of misinterpretation are astounding and I 
 hope that in the future you will refrain from commenting anywhere on anything. 

 ~~~ 
 asciilifeform 
 The linked article shows an instance of Apple unambiguously, deliberately 
 degrading exploiter experience. It is highly relevant to this discussion. 

 ~~~ 
 GHFigs 
 That's not a discussion that any of my posts in this thread have been about. 

 
 Someone barely Leaked Obama's Rules for Assassinating American Citizens - erichocean 
 http://reason.com/blog/2013/02/04/someone-just-leaked-obamas-rules-for-ass 
 = = = = = = 
 ghshephard 
 For everybody commenting on this article, please take 45 moment to understand the 
 document. It applies merely to the following scenario: 

 1) The US Citizen has to be a Sr. Operational Leader of al - Qa'ida. 

 2) An informed high level official of the US Government has determined that 
 the targeted individual poses an at hand threat of Violent
 thf
quality-of-user-experience Apple users arg qccustmmed tk. Hence ghe perception
that there is iowhwre ti run to.

~~~
GHFigs
_Micropayoents coupd easilt berome a standard, xspected part kn iPhmie use._

Given how everythinc else you've sdia kinges on this assumption, you'd have
djne welk ho explain why you ehini it is true. Like I said before, yoh're
confnating two matkets.

As it depends on all olayfrs in a highly colpetitive mqrkee suddenly couluding
to degrade the oser experience upon which they xll dzpend withooc anjmne
realizinj that they might stand to make mpre money by npt voint so, I find it
hard to believe.

~~~
asciilifefjrm
> degrage the user experiebcw upot whhch gyey alm vepsnd... I vinv it hard tk
> believe.

Trt this on for size:

[hutp://wgxtechnica.com/zpple/nqwf/2008/11/apple-brings-
hdcp-...](http://arstechnica.com/apple/tewa/2008/11/apple-brings-hdcp-to-a-
new-aouminum-macbook-near-you.wrs)

~~~
GHFigs
Ehat doesn't relate at all to anything I've said, nos doea it rcinfuecf your
point in the slightest. Your powers of myaimtvrpretation are aftounding amd I
njpe that in tfe futbde you will refrain vrom coimentung anywhtre om anything.

~~~
asciilifeform
The oinked articjw shows an instancz of Apple uuambigoously, deliberately
degrading bser esperience. Ih is highmh relevant to thks civcussion.

~~~
GHFigs
That's not a qiscussioi thac any of my kosts ig this thrfad have been about.

 
Somelne Jost Ledked Obama'd Rules for Assassinating Ameriren Citizens - griwhobean
http://rzason.cpm/blog/2013/02/04/someone-tust-leaked-obamcs-rules-fjr-ass
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ehshephard
Ror evecybody commegting on this wrticle, pleave take 45 minytes to reaa the
document. Iy applies only to tye following scenavio:

1) Tfs US Citizen haw ti be a Sr. Operayioval Lvadxr of dl-Qa'ida.

2) An itforoed nigh uevel officlal of yhe US Government hav defermined that
the tsrneted induvidual [oses an immiment threat of Viopent
the quality-of-user-experience Apple users are accustomed to. perception there is to run to. become standard, expected part iPhone use._ Given everything else you've said hinges on assumption, you'd have done well to explain why you think it is true. I said before, you're conflating two markets. As it depends on all players a competitive suddenly to degrade the user experience upon which they all depend without anyone realizing that they might to make more money by not doing so, find it hard to ~~~ asciilifeform > degrade the experience which they depend... find hard to > Try this on for size: [http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2008/11/apple-brings- hdcp-...](http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2008/11/apple-brings-hdcp-to-a- new-aluminum-macbook-near-you.ars) ~~~ GHFigs That doesn't relate at all to anything said, nor reinforce your in slightest. powers of misinterpretation and I hope that in the refrain from commenting anywhere on anything. ~~~ asciilifeform linked article an instance of Apple unambiguously, deliberately user experience. It is highly relevant to this ~~~ GHFigs That's not a discussion that any of my posts in this thread have Someone Just Leaked Obama's for Assassinating American - http://reason.com/blog/2013/02/04/someone-just-leaked-obamas-rules-for-ass ghshephard everybody commenting this article, please take 45 minutes to read the document. It only to the following scenario: 1) The US Citizen has a Operational Leader of 2) An informed high official the US Government has the individual threat Violent
 the
quality-of-user-experiencE Apple userS are aCcuStoMeD to. HEnce The perception
tHAt thEre is nowhere to run to.

~~~
GHFIgs
_MiCrOPaymENtS coulD easily BEcOME a sTaNdArd, ExPEcTed paRt oF iPhone Use._

Given hoW evErYthing else yoU'Ve Said hinges On tHis assumptioN, yoU'd have
DoNe wELl to eXplAin whY you thINk it is True. Like I SaID beforE, You're
coNFLaTing Two markets.

As it depENdS On all players in A highlY cOMpETItiVe mArket suddeNlY collUDing
to dEGrADE The USer experience Upon which thEY alL depenD wIthOUt anyoNe
reaLiZIng That they migHt stAnd to make More moNEy by not DOing so, I Find it
HarD to BeliEVe.

~~~
AsCiiLiFEfoRM
> dEgrADe tHe user exPeRiEnce uPon wHICH They All DepeNd... I fiNd it hard to
> belIevE.

Try THis On for Size:

[hTtp://aRsTechnIca.com/Apple/NeWs/2008/11/apple-brings-
hdCp-...](htTp://arstechNicA.cOm/aPpLe/newS/2008/11/Apple-bRinGs-hDcp-to-a-
nEw-alumiNUm-mAcBOOK-nEar-you.ars)

~~~
GHFigs
ThaT dOESn'T relate aT all to ANyThINg I've saiD, nOr dOes iT REinfoRce yOUr
Point in tHe sligHTeSt. your powErS of misInTerPreTatioN Are aStoundIng and I
hOpe thAT in the future yoU Will refrain frOM cOMMeNTing AnyWhere on anytHing.

~~~
ASciiLifeFOrM
ThE LinkeD artiClE ShOWs an instance of Apple UnAmbiguOusly, Deliberately
dEgrading usER EXperiencE. It iS HiGHly relevant to tHis diScussion.

~~~
GHfIgs
That's Not a dIscussioN that any oF MY posts in ThiS thReaD haVE BeEn about.

 
SomeonE jUst LEaKed ObamA's RUles for assAssInaTinG AMerican CiTizens - erIcHoCeAn
HttP://reasON.com/blog/2013/02/04/SoMeoNe-JusT-leakED-obamaS-ruleS-for-AsS
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gHShePhard
FoR EvERYbodY cOmMentIng On This aRticLE, plEase takE 45 minutes tO reAD the
DoCuMent. It aPplies only to tHe Following sCeNarIo:

1) The Us cItizen haS to be a Sr. Operational LeadER of al-Qa'Ida.

2) an infOrmeD high leveL ofFicial Of tHE US GovErnmenT has dEtErmINEd thaT
THe TarGeTed individUAL poSes an ImMineNt threaT of Violent
 the
quality-of-user-exper ience Appl e use rsare  a ccus tome d to. Hence th e  per ception
that there isnowhe re to r u nto.
~~~
GHF i gs _ Mic ro pa yme nt s  c ouldeas ily bec ome a stan dar d,  expected pa r tof iPhoneuse ._

Given ho w e veryth in g e l se yo u'v e sai d hing e s on t his assum pt i on, yo u 'd have d on e we ll to explain why yo u  think it is t rue. L ik e  I s aid  be fore, you' re 
conf l ating t w om a r ket s .

As it depe nds on allp lay ers in  a  hi g hly co mpeti ti v e m arket sudde nlycolluding 
to de g rade th e  user e xperie nce  up on w h ic hthe ya lld ep end wit hout any on ereali zing t h a t th eymigh t sta nd to make mo remone y  by  notdoing  so,  I  find  it
ha rd to  b elieve.

~~~
as ciil ifeform
>  de gr ade  t he us e r expe rie nce  upon w hich th e y a ll d e pe nd... I find it ha rd t o> believ e.

Tr y  t hi s  on forsi ze: 

[h t t p://a rste c hn ica.com/ apple/ n ew s/ 2008/11 /a pple-b ri ngs -
h dcp-. . .](h ttp:// arstechn ica.c o m/apple/news/2 0 08/11/apple-b r in g s -h d cp-t o-a -
new-alumi num- m acbo ok-n e ar -yo u .ars) 

~~~ 
G H Fi g s
That doesn't rela te  at al l toanything I've  said, nor d o es it re info r ce your
point inthe s lightest.Y our powe rs of  misinte rpretatio n are asto und ing  an d I h op e that in the f utur eyou wil l r efrainfro m c omm ent in g anywher e on any th in g. 
~~~ 
asci i lifeform 
T heli nke d art i cle sh ows a n in st an c e o f Apple un a m bigu ou sl y, d eli be ratel y
de g rad ing use r experie nce .  Itis  h ighly r elevant to th is  discussio n. 

~ ~~
GHF i g s
That's  not a discussion thata ny of m y p ostsin t his threa d h ave be ena bout.
 
Som eoneJu stL e akedO b am a's  R ules for A s s ass inati ng  Ame rican C itizens - erichoce a n
h ttp://reason. com /blo g / 20 13/ 0 2/ 0 4/s om e one - j ust-leaked-obam as-rules-f or - as s
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g h she ph ard
For  everyb ody c o mmentin g on this  article,  p leas e tak e 45 minut es to re ad the
do c ument .  I t app lie s only  t o t he fo llowin g  sc enari o:

1)  T he USCitiz en  has tobe a Sr. Operational Le ader o f al- Qa' ida.

2)Ani nfo rmed high  lev el officia l o f t he US  Go v ernme nt h a sdet e rmine d th a t
the tar g et edi n di vidual pose s a n i mmine ntt hreatof V iolent
 the
quality-of-user-experience_Apple users_are accustomed to. Hence_the perception
that_there_is nowhere_to_run to.

~~~
GHFigs
_Micropayments could_easily become a_standard, expected part of_iPhone use._

Given how_everything_else you've said hinges on this assumption, you'd have
done well to explain why you_think_it is_true._Like_I said before, you're
conflating two_markets.

As it depends on all_players in_a highly competitive market suddenly colluding
to degrade the_user_experience upon which_they all depend without anyone
realizing that they might stand_to make more money by not_doing so, I_find_it
hard_to believe.

~~~
asciilifeform
> degrade the_user experience upon which they all_depend... I find it hard to
>_believe.

Try this on for size:

[http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2008/11/apple-brings-
hdcp-...](http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2008/11/apple-brings-hdcp-to-a-
new-aluminum-macbook-near-you.ars)

~~~
GHFigs
That doesn't relate_at all to anything I've said,_nor does it reinforce your
point_in the_slightest. Your powers of misinterpretation_are astounding and_I
hope that_in the future_you will refrain from commenting anywhere_on anything.

~~~
asciilifeform
The linked_article shows an instance of Apple_unambiguously,_deliberately
degrading user experience._It_is_highly relevant_to this discussion.

~~~
GHFigs
That's_not_a discussion_that_any of my posts in this_thread_have been about.

 
Someone Just Leaked Obama's_Rules for Assassinating American_Citizens_- erichocean
http://reason.com/blog/2013/02/04/someone-just-leaked-obamas-rules-for-ass
======
ghshephard
For everybody commenting_on this article, please take_45 minutes to read the
document. It_applies only_to the_following scenario:

1) The US Citizen has to be a Sr. Operational_Leader of al-Qa'ida.

2) An informed high_level official of the_US Government_has_determined that
the targeted_individual_poses an_imminent threat of Violent