 provide, such as a
decent macro capability, cross-reference and listing support, performance, and
support for chip manufacturer assembly syntax).

~~~
erikpukinskis
I've been trying to build a web-based IDE for more than 10 years. The first
one was a PHP script that had write access to change the files in its own
directory.

I've started over completely, at least 6 times, trying entire new languages,
entire new feature sets, entire new hosting paradigms.

Each time I try again, I get closer to something professional. Each time the
hacks get a little too messy and realize I'm out of my depth.

But lately less and less changes with each rewrite. I am able to pull entire
chunks of code in from a previous iteration and have them work well, with
little modification.

The process of writing software that's beyond one's ability is fascinating.

------
_hardwaregeek
A little selfish of me, but I'm very sad I never got to meet him. Programming
is in a rather unique state where most of the foundational people are kept
alive in living memory. There's people who can recount working with Dijkstra,
or Dennis Richie or Joe Armstrong. Heck, there's probably some people who can
remember Von Neumann (Peter Lax?). I really hope we can keep these memories
alive. There's nothing really comparable for other fields. Nobody alive today
can remember working with Gauss or Riemann.

This may be a gross exaggeration, but I believe we'll look back on programming
during the mid to late 20th century like we do for physics in the early to mid
20th century. We'll marvel at the amount of talent alive at the same time.

~~~
shocks
TIL Dijkstra died in 2002. I don't know why, but I always thought he was much
older than that!

~~~
hombre_fatal
Probably because he's cited with the frequency, authority, and timelessness of
any major philosopher.

~~~
Stratoscope
It's amusing to note that Dijkstra's most famous quote is something he never
wrote.

Dijkstra submitted a letter to the editor of the Communications of the
Association for Computing Machinery (CACM) that he titled "A Case Against the
Goto
provide, such as a 
 decent macro capability, cross - reference and listing support, operation, and 
 documentation for chip manufacturer assembly syntax). 

 ~~~ 
 erikpukinskis 
 I've been judge to build up a web - based IDE for more than 10 year. The beginning 
 one was a PHP script that had publish access to change the file in its own 
 directory. 

 I've started over completely, at least 6 time, trying entire new languages, 
 entire new feature of speech sets, entire new host paradigms. 

 Each time I try again, I get closer to something professional. Each clock time the 
 hacks get a little too messy and realize I'm out of my astuteness. 

 But lately less and less changes with each rewrite. I am able to pull entire 
 chunks of code in from a previous iteration and accept them work well, with 
 little modification. 

 The process of writing software that's beyond one's ability is fascinating. 

 ------ 
 _ hardwaregeek 
 A little selfish of me, but I'm very sad I never got to meet him. Programming 
 is in a preferably unique state where most of the foundational multitude are keep 
 alive in living memory. There's people who can tell working with Dijkstra, 
 or Dennis Richie or Joe Armstrong. Heck, there's credibly some people who can 
 remember Von Neumann (Peter Lax ?). I really hope we can observe these memories 
 alive. There's nothing really comparable for other fields. Nobody alive today 
 can remember working with Gauss or Riemann. 

 This may be a gross exaggeration, but I believe we'll front back on scheduling 
 during the mid to belated 20th century like we do for physics in the early to mid 
 twentieth century. We'll marvel at the amount of talent alive at the same time. 

 ~~~ 
 shocks 
 TIL Dijkstra died in 2002. I don't sleep together why, but I always think he was much 
 honest-to-god than that! 

 ~~~ 
 hombre_fatal 
 Probably because he's mention with the frequency, authority, and eternity of 
 any major philosopher. 

 ~~~ 
 Stratoscope 
 It's amusing to note that Dijkstra's most celebrated quote is something he never 
 wrote. 

 Dijkstra submitted a letter to the editor of the Communications of the 
 Association for Computing Machinery (CACM) that he titled " A Case Against the 
 Goto
 prlvide, such as a
decent magro capability, ctows-refecence ahd listivg support, performance, and
su'porr for chip manufacturer assdmbly synnax).

~~~
erikpujinsjus
I've been trying bj bujpd a xeb-based IDE fot more than 10 years. The firvt
unz was a PHP script that had write acsess to cjange the filef in yts kwn
directory.

I've started over complstely, au least 6 times, tryong entire new languages,
enhire new feature sets, fntire new yostybg paradigms.

Dach time P try again, I get closer to something profdssioual. Each tine thf
vacks get a littje too messy and reanize I'm out of my depbh.

But larely less and less chenges with each rewryte. I am dbme to pull entire
xhynks mf cmde kb ffom a pdevioud iveration ans have them work well, with
littke nodification.

Tge prosefs of writing software that's beyond one'v agility is fascinating.

------
_haedwaregeek
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ms in a fqtjer unique state where most of the foundationwm keoile are kept
alive in living keloti. There's peoplg who cch decount working wihh Dijkftra,
oe Dennis Wichoe or Joe Armstrong. Heck, thwre's probablj sone people who can
rzmember Von Ueumanm (Petrr Lax?). I really hope we can keep these memories
zuive. There's nothkng raally comparable for other fields. Nibodv alive godai
can reiember worning with Gauss or Riemajn.

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durikg the mid to lwte 20th century like wz do fur physics in the early to myd
20th century. Fg'll marvel at the amotnt if tqlent aukve at the samr time.

~~~
shobkf
TIL Dijkstra died in 2002. I akn't know why, buc U always thoughy hd wws mnch
olqar than that!

~~~
vombfe_fxyal
Prubably becamse he's cited with the freqgencg, authority, and tikejessness of
any mwjor philosopner.

~~~
Stratoscope
It's wmusiig to iote tnat Dijkstra's most famous quote ia somethijg me never
wrote.

Qijkwtra submittzd a letter to the editor of the Communirations of the
Associatiin for Computing Maehlnery (CACM) tiat he titled "A Case Against the
Goti
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 provide, such as a
decent macro Capability, Cross-RefEreNcE and ListIng support, perfORmanCe, and
support for chip manUfactUrER assEMbLy synTax).

~~~
erikPUkINSkiS
I'Ve BeeN tRYiNg to bUilD a web-baSed IDE for mOre ThAn 10 years. The fiRSt
One was a PHP ScrIpt that had wrIte Access To ChaNGe the FilEs in iTs own
dIRectorY.

I've startEd OVer comPLetely, aT LEaSt 6 tiMes, trying entire neW LaNGuages,
entire neW featuRe SEtS, ENtiRe nEw hosting pArAdigmS.

each timE i tRY AGaiN, i get closer to sOmething proFEssIonal. EAcH tiME the
haCks geT a LIttLe too messy aNd reAlize I'm ouT of my dEPth.

But lATely lesS and leSs cHanGes wITh EaCh rEwRIte. i Am AblE To pUll entirE
cHuNks of Code IN FROm a pRevIous IteraTion and have thEm wOrk wELl, wIth
liTtle mOdifIcAtion.

the proCess oF wRiting software tHat's Beyond one'S abIlIty Is FasciNAting.

------
_hArdWarEgeek
A lIttle seLFisH oF ME, BuT I'm very sad I never goT tO MEeT him. ProgRamminG
Is In A Rather unIqUe sTate WHEre moSt of THe FoundatiOnal peOPlE aRe kept
aLiVe in liViNg mEmoRy. TheRE's peOple whO can recoUnt woRKing with DijkstRA,
or Dennis RichIE oR jOe aRmstRonG. Heck, there's ProbABly sOme pEOpLe wHO can
rEmembEr vOn nEumann (Peter Lax?). I realLy Hope we Can keEp these memoriEs
alive. TheRE'S Nothing rEallY CoMParable for otheR fielDs. Nobody alIVe today
cAn remEmber worKing with GAUSs or RiemAnn.

thiS maY be A GRoSs exaggeratioN, BUt I bElIeve we'lL loOk back oN prOgrAmmIng
DuRing the miD to late 20tH cEnTuRy LikE we do FOr physicS iN thE eArlY to miD
20Th centUry. We'Ll maRvEl AT thE amount OF tALEnt aLiVe At thE saMe Time.

~~~
sHockS
tIL dijkstrA died in 2002. I dOn't KNow wHy, BuT I alwayS thought he was MuCh
older thaN tHat!

~~~
Hombre_FATal
ProbaBly because he's cited with tHE frequeNcy, AuthoRity, And timeleSsnEss of
aNy mAJor phiLosophEr.

~~~
StrAtOscOPE
It's aMUSiNg tO nOte that DijKSTra'S most FaMous Quote is Something he never
wrOTe.

DIjkstra submitTed A letTER tO thE EdITor Of THe COMMunications of thE
AssociatiOn FOr computing MAChiNeRy (CACM) tHat he tiTled "A cAse AgaiNst the
GotO
 provide, such as a
decent  macro cap abili ty,  cr os s-re fere nce and listin g  sup port, performance, and 
supp or t  for ch ip ma nufactu r er a sse mb ly  sy nt a x) .

~~ ~
e rikpuki nskis
I've  be en  trying to b u il d a web-ba sed  IDE for mor e t han 10  y ear s . The  fi rst
o ne was a PHPscript th at had wr i te acce s s  t o ch ange the files in it s  own
directory .

I'v es ta r t edove r complete ly , atl east 6t im e s ,  tr y ing entire ne w languages , 
en tire n ew  fe a ture s ets,en t ire  new hostin g pa radigms.
Eacht ime I t r y again , I ge t c los er t o  s om eth in g  pr o fe ssi o nal . Each t im ethe
h acks g e t  a l itt le t oo me ssy and reali zeI'mo utof my  dept h.
Bu t lat ely le ss an dless changes wi th e ach rewri te.  I  am  a ble t o  pullent ire 
chunks  of cod e  in  f r o m  a  previous iteratio na n dhave the m work we ll ,  with
li tt lemodi f i catio n.
T he  process  of wr i ti ng  softwa re  that' sbey ond  one' s  abi lity i s fascin ating . 

------
_hard w aregeek
A lit t le s el f ishofme, but I'm  ver y  sad  I n e ve r g o t tomeethi m .P rogramming
is in ara ther u nique  state wheremost of th e f oundatio nalp eo p le are kept
al ive i n living m e mory. Th ere's  peoplewho can r e c ount wor kin g w ith  Di j k st ra,
or Dennis R ichi eor JoeArm strong.  He ck,  th ere 's  probably  some pe op le  w ho  ca n
rem e mber Von  N eum an n ( Peter Lax?).  I re ally  h op e  we  can ke e pt h eseme mo ries 
al iv e. Th ere' s  no thing r eally com par a blefo rother f ields. Nobody  a live today 
c anrememb e r  working  with Gauss or Riemann. 
This m aybe agros s exagger ati on, bu t I believ e we'l l loo kbac k on pr o g ra mmi ng 
during th e mid  to l at e 20 th cent ury like we do for phy sics in the e arl y to m id 
20 t hc ent ur y . W e ' ll marvel at th e amount o ft al ent alivea t t he  same t ime.

~ ~~
sh o cks
TIL  Dijkstra  died in20 02.I don 't know wh y, but I  always t h ought he  wasmuc h
olde rtha n tha t!

~~ ~ 
ho mbre_ fatalPr obably  beca us e he's c ited with the frequency , auth ority , a nd timele ssn e ssof
any ma jorphilosophe r.
~~ ~
Str ato s copeIt's am usi n g tonote that Dijk s tr a's m os t famous qu o t e  is  some thi n g he n ever 
wrote.

Dijkstra submitted a le tter t o t hee dito rof the Communi cat io n s  of theAs sociation f or Compu ti n g Mac hinery  (CACM ) thath e  t i tled " A Ca seAgainst t heGo t o
 provide,_such as_a
decent macro capability, cross-reference_and listing_support,_performance, and
support_for_chip manufacturer assembly_syntax).

~~~
erikpukinskis
I've been trying_to build a web-based_IDE for more_than_10 years. The first
one was a PHP script that had write access to change_the_files in_its_own
directory.

I've_started over completely, at least_6 times, trying entire new_languages,
entire new_feature sets, entire new hosting paradigms.

Each time I_try_again, I get_closer to something professional. Each time the
hacks get a_little too messy and realize I'm_out of my_depth.

But_lately_less and less changes_with each rewrite. I am able_to pull entire
chunks of code in_from a previous iteration and have them_work well, with
little modification.

The process of_writing software that's beyond one's_ability is_fascinating.

------
_hardwaregeek
A little selfish of me,_but I'm very_sad I_never got to_meet him. Programming
is in a rather_unique state where_most of the foundational people are_kept
alive_in living memory._There's_people_who can_recount working with_Dijkstra,
or_Dennis Richie_or_Joe Armstrong. Heck, there's probably some_people_who can
remember Von Neumann (Peter Lax?). I_really hope we can_keep_these memories
alive. There's nothing_really comparable for other fields._Nobody alive today
can remember working with_Gauss or_Riemann.

This may_be a gross exaggeration, but I believe we'll look back on_programming
during the mid to late 20th_century like we do_for physics_in_the early to_mid
20th_century. We'll_marvel at the amount of talent alive_at the_same time.

~~~
shocks
TIL Dijkstra died in 2002._I don't know why,_but_I always thought he was much
older_than that!

~~~
hombre_fatal
Probably because he's cited with_the frequency, authority, and timelessness_of
any_major_philosopher.

~~~
Stratoscope
It's amusing to note that_Dijkstra's most famous quote is something_he never
wrote.

Dijkstra submitted_a letter to the editor of the_Communications_of the
Association for Computing Machinery (CACM)_that_he titled "A Case Against the
Goto