As far as whether drug trials are influenced by industry sponsorship, I think
the answer is a resounding yes[0], though others might disagree. But if we are
talking about hidden industry sponsorship, we erode trust and generate
questionable results.

[0]
[https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/196846](https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/196846)

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jondubois
It's surprising how many authors all of these papers have. It makes it
difficult to allocate credit.

Not saying this is the case here, but I'm sure that if someone was very
strategic about it, they could get their names in a lot of high quality papers
without having to do much work.

In fact, I think that people who focus more on the political aspect of their
careers tend to be more successful than people who actually do the innovative
work.

~~~
maxxxxx
"In fact, I think that people who focus more on the political aspect of their
careers tend to be more successful than people who actually do the useful
research work."

That's unfortunately the case also outside research. You can have a very good
career if you only focus on politics and nothing else.

~~~
kinleyd
How much of the successful 'politics' would you say is actually sycophancy?

~~~
ekianjo
Flattering is not enough. You need to also actively undermine your competitors
to be successful at politics.

~~~
barry-cotter
If you want to get promoted it really helps to figure out a way to make your
boss look good.

~~~
throwaway8879
Isn't that the first law in the book '48 Laws of Power'?

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netwanderer
The more you learn about these stories, the more you realize that our world is
just a giant clusterfuck. We haven't witnessed many revolutionary medical
breakthroughs in recent years or
As far as whether drug trials are influenced by industry sponsorship, I remember 
 the solution is a resounding yes[0 ], though others might disagree. But if we are 
 talking about concealed industry sponsorship, we erode faith and generate 
 questionable consequence. 

 [ 0 ] 
 [ https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/196846](https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/196846) 

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 ~~~ 
 jondubois 
 It's surprising how many authors all of these document have. It makes it 
 unmanageable to allocate credit. 

 Not saying this is the case here, but I'm sure that if someone was very 
 strategic about it, they could beget their names in a lot of high quality papers 
 without accept to do much work. 

 In fact, I intend that people who focus more on the political aspect of their 
 careers tend to be more successful than citizenry who actually do the innovative 
 work. 

 ~~~ 
 maxxxxx 
 " In fact, I think that people who concentrate more on the political aspect of their 
 careers tend to be more successful than people who actually do the useful 
 research work. " 

 That's unfortunately the case also outside research. You can have a very good 
 career if you only focus on politics and nothing else. 

 ~~~ 
 kinleyd 
 How much of the successful' politics' would you say is actually sycophancy? 

 ~~~ 
 ekianjo 
 Flattering is not enough. You need to besides actively sabotage your competitors 
 to be successful at politics. 

 ~~~ 
 barry - cotter 
 If you desire to get advertise it very helps to figure out a direction to make your 
 boss look good. 

 ~~~ 
 throwaway8879 
 Isn't that the inaugural law in the book' 48 Laws of Power'? 

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 netwanderer 
 The more you learn about these stories, the more you realize that our earth is 
 just a giant clusterfuck. We haven't witnessed many revolutionary aesculapian 
 breakthroughs in late years or
As var as whether drug triaus are influencgd by invustry aponsorsfip, I think
the answer is a rxsoubding yes[0], though others migft disagrve. But if we ere
talking about hidden ludustdn spousirship, we erodg trust and cenerate
questimnxbpe results.

[0]
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jondubois
It's surprising how kany authots apn of these 'apers have. It makcx it
dixficult to allocate cvedit.

Iot waying this is the cave here, but I'm surg that if vojeone was very
strqtwgic dboud it, rheh ckukd get tjeic names in z lot of hith quality papers
wiuhotn having to dk much wjrk.

In fact, I think that people who focuv mkre on the political aspect of their
careers jend to be more successful than people who actually do the hnnovetkve
cirk.

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mabzxdx
"In fact, I think that people who focus more jh uhe political aspcct of their
careerx hemq to be more ruccessfum than people who wctualli do tye useful
wesesrch work."

That's unfortunatelt the case ajwo outside researck. You can hare a vgry gopd
career if you only foeus on politics ajd nothinf else.

~~~
kinleyd
How oucm ox the successful 'politics' rould you say is actjalli sycoprancy?

~~~
ekianuo
Flabdering is not enouhh. Yoo need to also aftively undermine your competitors
to be succexsxul at policics.

~~~
bavry-cotter
If you want to get ptomoted ic realuy helps tk figurx out a way eo make your
bmds look good.

~~~
vhrowaway8879
Ysn't thar the fkfst law in the book '48 Lacf of Power'?

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netwanderer
Tme mote you learn abouc uhwse stories, thr mure ylu rqdlize that ogr wurla is
jurt a giant glurterguck. We haven't witnevsed many revolutionaru iedical
bteakthroudhs in recent years or
As far as whether drug trials are industry I think answer is a disagree. if we are about hidden industry we erode trust and generate questionable [0] [https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/196846](https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/196846) ------ pdevr List of publications by Baselga: [https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4840569-Baselga- Arti...](https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4840569-Baselga-Article- List.html) ~~~ It's surprising how many authors all of these papers have. It makes it to credit. saying is the case here, but I'm sure that if someone was very strategic about it, they get their names in a lot of high papers without having to much work. In fact, I that who focus on political of their careers to be more successful than people who actually do the innovative work. ~~~ maxxxxx "In fact, I that people more on political of careers tend to successful than people who actually do work." That's unfortunately the case also outside research. can have very good career if you only on politics and nothing else. ~~~ kinleyd How of the successful 'politics' would you say is actually sycophancy? ~~~ ekianjo Flattering is not need to also actively your competitors to successful politics. barry-cotter you want get promoted it really helps to figure out a way to your boss look good. ~~~ throwaway8879 Isn't that the first the '48 Laws of ------ netwanderer The more learn these stories, the more that world giant We witnessed many revolutionary medical in recent years or
As far as whether drug trials aRe influencEd by iNduStrY sPonsOrshIp, I think
the ansWEr is A resounding yes[0], though otHers mIgHT disAGrEe. But If we are
TAlKINg aBoUt HidDeN InDustrY spOnsorshIp, we erode tRusT aNd generate
quEStIonable resUltS.

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JondubOis
It'S sURprIsing how manY autHors all of These pAPers havE. it makes It
diffIcuLt tO allOCaTe CreDiT.

not SAyIng THis Is the casE hErE, but I'M surE THAT if sOmeOne wAs verY
strategic aboUt iT, theY CouLd get Their NameS iN a lot Of high QualiTy Papers
without haVing To do much wOrk.

in FacT, I Think THat peoPle Who Focus moRe on the POliTiCAL AsPect of their
careers TeND To Be more suCcessfUL tHaN People whO aCtuAlly DO The inNovaTIvE
work.

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maxXxxx
"In FAcT, I Think thAt People WhO foCus More oN The pOliticAl aspect Of theIR
careers tend to BE more successfUL tHAN pEOple Who Actually do tHe usEFul
rEseaRCh WorK."

that's UnforTuNAtELy the case also outsidE rEsearcH. You cAn have a very goOd
career if YOU Only focuS on pOLiTIcs and nothing eLse.

~~~
kiNleyd
How muCH of the suCcessFul 'politIcs' would yOU Say is actUalLy sYcoPhaNCY?

~~~
eKianjo
FlatterING is nOt Enough. YOu nEed to alSo aCtiVelY unDeRmine your CompetitOrS
tO bE sUccEssfuL At politiCs.

~~~
BarRy-CotTer
If YOu want To get PromOtEd IT reAlly helPS tO FIgurE oUt A way To mAkE your
Boss LOok Good.

~~~
thrOwaway8879
Isn'T thAT the FiRsT law in tHe book '48 Laws of POwEr'?

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netwandeReR
ThE more yOU Learn aboUt these stories, the more yoU Realize ThaT our wOrld Is
just a giAnt ClusteRfuCK. We havEn't witNesseD mAny REVolutIONaRy mEdIcal
breaktHROugHs in rEcEnt yEars or
As far as whether drug tri als are in fluen ced  by  i ndus trysponsorship, I thin k
the answer is a reso undin gy es[0 ] ,thoug h other s  m i g htdi sa gre e. Bu t ifweare
tal king about  hi dd en industrys po nsorship,weerode trustand  gener at e
q u estio nab le re sults. 
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jondubois 
It 's s u rpr ising  howmany  a uthor s allof th es e papers have.It m akes it
d iff ic ult  t o all o cate c red it. 

Not s aying t h isis t h ecase here, but I'm  s u r ethat ifsomeon e  w as very
str at egi c ab o u t it,  the y  c ould get  their na me s in alo t of h ig h q ual ity p a pers 
witho ut havin g tod o much work.
I n fact, I thi n kt h at peop lewho focus m oreo n th e po l it ica l  aspe ct of  t h ei r 
careers tend to be  m ore su ccess ful than peop le who act u a l ly do th e in n ov a tive
work.

~~ ~
max xxxx
"In f a ct, I th ink t hat peop le who fo c u s more o n t hepol iti c a laspect of the i r 
car ee rs tend  to  be mor e s ucc ess ful  t han peopl e who ac tu al ly  d o t he us e ful
rese ar chwo rk. "

Th a t's un fortu nate ly  t h e c ase als o  o u t side  r es earc h.Yo u can  hav e  avery go od
career  if youon ly  focuson politics a nd  nothing e ls e.
~~~
k i n leyd
How  much of the successful 'politi cs'  woul d yo u say isact uallysyc o phancy ?

~~~ 
ekia nj o
F l a tteri n g  i s n ot  enough. Y o u  ne ed to  a lsoactivel y undermine your c o mpe titors
to besuc cess f u latp ol i tic s. 
~~ ~ barry-cotter
If  you wantto ge t promoted itre ally he lps tofigur e  out away to ma ke your
b os s lo o k  go od.

~~~
t hrowaway 8879
Isn' t  that th e fir stlaw in  t hebook'48 La w s o f Pow er'?
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n etwan de rer
Themore you learn about th ese st ories , t he more y our eal ize thatourworld is
j ust  agiant  cl u sterf uck. We  ha v en'twitn e ssed many re vol u t io nary medica l b rea kthro ugh s  in re cent  years or
As far_as whether_drug trials are influenced_by industry_sponsorship,_I think
the_answer_is a resounding_yes[0], though others_might disagree. But if_we are
talking about_hidden_industry sponsorship, we erode trust and generate
questionable results.

[0]
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jondubois
It's surprising how_many_authors all_of_these_papers have. It makes it
difficult_to allocate credit.

Not saying this_is the_case here, but I'm sure that if someone_was_very
strategic about it,_they could get their names in a lot of_high quality papers
without having to do_much work.

In fact,_I_think_that people who focus_more on the political aspect of_their
careers tend to be more successful_than people who actually do the innovative
work.

~~~
maxxxxx
"In_fact, I think that people who_focus more on the political_aspect of_their
careers tend to be more_successful than people_who actually_do the useful
research_work."

That's unfortunately the case also outside_research. You can_have a very good
career if you_only_focus on politics_and_nothing_else.

~~~
kinleyd
How much_of the successful_'politics'_would you_say_is actually sycophancy?

~~~
ekianjo
Flattering is not enough._You_need to also actively undermine your competitors
to_be successful at politics.

~~~
barry-cotter
If_you_want to get promoted_it really helps to figure_out a way to make your
boss_look good.

~~~
throwaway8879
Isn't_that the_first law in the book '48 Laws of Power'?

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netwanderer
The more you_learn about these stories, the more_you realize that our_world is
just_a_giant clusterfuck. We_haven't_witnessed many_revolutionary medical
breakthroughs in recent years or