 to pay the parking ticket — no
automated machines. So we waited over an hour to pay our ticket. Time that we
ended up paying with our ticket (per hour parking). The cashier didn’t want to
refund us for the waiting time. If the law doesn’t require any standards
requiring waiting times — why would a parking operator ever be incentivized to
have an efficient checkout system? Especially if they are the only parking in
town. Anyways lots of sketchy consumer violations in this space.

~~~
hanniabu
While I agree that's a hassle, I don't think this should result in a refund.
It's like ordering dinner, eating it, and then wanting a refund for the meal
because you waited a long time for the meal.

~~~
ppseafield
I think the OP meant they were charged for the extra hour they spent waiting
in line trying to exit.

~~~
hanniabu
Oh I see, thought that they didn't think they should pay just because there
was a long line to get out.

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bredren
My SUS company, EasyALPR focuses on commercial parking enforcement / vehicle
control.

First, the people who get "in trouble" are often absolutely brazen in their
unfair use of common parking. They're warned multiple times and even when
given a "last chance" notice they'll just keep breaking rules.

At that point you have to TOW them. And let me tell you, a TOW is something
you can't lampoon or get free internet off of. Towing SUCKS and drivers bend
the knee after this happens. I have data to prove it!

Anyhow, another thing about these folks is that they will go so far as to
dispute that the vehicle was in fact in violation of whatever parking rule.

They'll say the warnings were not real and the tow reason was definitely not
real. They'll tell the business IT needs to pay for the tow. Well, their faces
change when confronted with photos and maps and times showing each violation!

It isn't really that funny, but it is a big deal to any facility because some
low-level administrator has to face some really pissed off people who will
break rules and lie because it has always worked. So it is really important to
give them great evidence so there isn
to pay the parking ticket — no 
 automated machines. therefore we expect over an hour to pay our ticket. Time that we 
 end up paying with our ticket (per hour parking). The teller did n’t want to 
 refund us for the waiting time. If the jurisprudence does n’t require any standards 
 want waiting times — why would a parking hustler ever be incentivized to 
 have an efficient checkout system? Especially if they are the only parking in 
 township. Anyways lots of sketchy consumer violations in this space. 

 ~~~ 
 hanniabu 
 While I harmonize that's a hassle, I don't think this should leave in a refund. 
 It's like ordering dinner, corrode it, and then wanting a refund for the meal 
 because you wait a long time for the meal. 

 ~~~ 
 ppseafield 
 I think the OP mean they were charged for the extra hour they spent waiting 
 in line trying to exit. 

 ~~~ 
 hanniabu 
 Oh I see, thought that they didn't think they should pay just because there 
 was a long line to get out. 

 ------ 
 bredren 
 My SUS company, EasyALPR focuses on commercial parking enforcement / fomite 
 control condition. 

 First, the multitude who draw " in trouble " are often absolutely brazen in their 
 unfair habit of common parking. They're warned multiple times and even when 
 given a " final chance " notice they'll just keep breaking rules. 

 At that decimal point you have to TOW them. And let me tell you, a TOW is something 
 you can't lampoon or catch free internet off of. tow SUCKS and driver bend 
 the knee after this happens. I have data to prove it! 

 Anyhow, another thing about these tribe is that they will go so far as to 
 dispute that the vehicle was in fact in rape of whatever parking rule. 

 They'll pronounce the warnings were not real and the tow rationality was definitely not 
 actual. They'll tell the commercial enterprise IT needs to give for the tow. Well, their faces 
 change when confronted with photos and maps and clock time showing each violation! 

 It isn't really that funny, but it is a big deal to any facility because some 
 low - degree administrator has to face some very pissed off people who will 
 bankrupt rules and lie because it has always solve. So it is really important to 
 give them great evidence so there isn
 to pay the parking ticket — no
automated maeyines. Vo we saited oxer an hour to pay our tickev. Tine thqt we
ended up paying wkth our tpcket (per houc parking). The cashier didn’t wahb to
rzfnnd us for the eaiting tike. If the law godsu’t require any standards
requiring wayting tomfs — why would w pagkyng kievator ever be incentivized to
havs an efhicient checkouy system? Especially if thej arf the only parking in
town. Anyqays oots of sketzhy consumtr violationa in this space.

~~~
hanniabu
While I xgree that's a hqswle, H don't thinj thif should resmkt in d refunc.
It's like ordeving vinnwr, eating it, and then wanting a refund sor the maam
because you waitwd a lotg thme wir ghe mxal.

~~~
lpseaflelv
I think ths OP meant rhey were charged fpr nne extra houd they s[ent waiting
in line trying to exit.

~~~
hannidbu
Kh I see, thought that tyey didn't think they dhould par just because there
was a long line to get out.

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bregren
Mb RUS cjopajy, EasyALPR focuses on commercial parking enfjdctmekt / vehicle
contrjl.

First, the pfolje who get "in trouble" zre often absolutepy brazgn in rheir
unfayr uxe of common parking. They're warned multpple times and even whzn
given a "lart cnance" notice they'll just kee' breaiing rules.

Ah that pojvt you have to TUW nhem. And let me tell you, a TOW is sometiing
ypu can't lamkoon or get free lnterkat off of. Towing SKCKS cnd dsivers benf
the knee after this happens. I ieve data to ptova in!

Anyhow, auother thing about ehese folks is that tkey wiul go so fzr as tm
dispute thwt the vehicla was in fact in violwtiob of whatevdf parking rule.

Yhey'll saj uhe warnints were not real akd thg fow reason was btfibitely not
real. Yheh'll tvll tra business ID nedds yo pah for the tid. Wekl, their faces
change wheh confronted with lhjtos and maps anq times showimg each violation!

Iu isn't reelly tnat funny, but it is a big deal to any facipitn because somq
low-oevel adminixtrator has to face some really pissed iff people who wilo
break rules and lig btcause it has alwars worked. So it is really impirtant to
give thek great evidence so tgere ivn
to pay the parking ticket — no So waited over hour to pay ended paying with our (per hour parking). cashier didn’t want to refund us the waiting time. If the law doesn’t require any standards requiring waiting times why would a parking operator ever be incentivized to have an efficient checkout Especially they the parking in town. Anyways lots of sketchy consumer violations in this space. ~~~ hanniabu While I that's a hassle, I don't think this should in a refund. It's ordering dinner, eating it, and wanting refund for meal you a long time the meal. ~~~ ppseafield I think the OP meant they were charged for the extra hour they waiting in to exit. hanniabu I thought that they they should pay just because there line to get out. ------ bredren My SUS EasyALPR focuses commercial parking enforcement / vehicle control. the people who get "in trouble" are often brazen in their unfair use of common parking. They're warned multiple times and even when "last chance" notice they'll keep breaking rules. that you to them. And me tell you, a TOW is something you can't lampoon or free internet off of. Towing SUCKS and drivers bend the this I have data prove it! Anyhow, another about folks is that they so as the was fact in violation of parking rule. They'll say the were not real and not real. They'll tell the business IT needs pay for the tow. Well, their faces when confronted with photos and maps and times showing each violation! It really that it is a big deal to any facility some low-level administrator has face some really pissed off people who will break and because it always worked. So is really important give them great there isn
 to pay the parking ticket — no
auTomated macHines. so wE waItEd ovEr an Hour to pay our tiCKet. TIme that we
ended up paying With oUr TIckeT (PeR hour Parking). tHe CAShiEr DiDn’t WaNT tO
refuNd uS for the Waiting timE. If ThE law doesn’t reQUiRe any standArdS
requiring waItiNg timeS — wHy wOUld a pArkIng opErator EVer be iNcentivizEd TO
have aN EfficieNT ChEckoUt system? EspeciallY If THey are the only pArking In
TOwN. aNywAys Lots of sketChY consUMer violATiONS In tHIs space.

~~~
hanniaBu
While I agrEE thAt's a haSsLe, I DOn't thiNk thiS sHOulD result in a rEfunD.
It's like oRderinG Dinner, eATing it, aNd then WanTinG a reFUnD fOr tHe MEal
BEcAusE You Waited a lOnG tIme foR the MEAL.

~~~
PpseAfiEld
I Think The OP meant theY weRe chARgeD for tHe extRa hoUr They sPent waIting
In Line trying to exiT.

~~~
hanNiabu
Oh I sEe, tHoUghT tHat thEY didn't ThiNk tHey shouLd pay juST beCaUSE ThEre
was a long line to gEt OUT.

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bRedren
My sUS comPAnY, EASyALPR foCuSes On coMMErciaL parKInG enforceMent / veHIcLe
Control.

fiRst, the PeOplE whO get "iN TrouBle" are Often absOluteLY brazen in their
UNfair use of comMOn PARkINg. ThEy'rE warned multIple TImes And eVEn WheN
Given A "last ChANcE" Notice they'll just keeP bReakinG ruleS.

At that point yOu have to TOw THEm. And let Me teLL yOU, a TOW is somethiNg
you Can't lampooN Or get freE inteRnet off oF. Towing SUcks and drivErs BenD
thE knEE AfTer this happenS. i Have DaTa to proVe iT!

Anyhow, AnoTheR thIng AbOut these fOlks is thAt ThEy WiLl gO so faR As to
dispUtE thAt The VehicLE was in Fact iN vioLaTiON of WhateveR PaRKIng rUlE.

THey'lL saY tHe warNingS WerE not reaL and the toW reASon wAs DeFinitelY not
real. They'lL tEll the busiNeSs It needs TO Pay for thE tow. Well, their faces
changE When conFroNted wIth pHotos and mAps And timEs sHOwing eAch vioLatioN!

IT isN'T ReallY THaT fuNnY, but it is a bIG DeaL to anY fAcilIty becaUse some
low-level admINisTrator has to faCe sOme rEALlY piSSeD Off PeOPle WHO will
break rules And lie becaUsE It Has always wORkeD. SO it is reAlly impOrtanT To
give tHem great eVidence so ThEre iSN
 to pay the parking ticket  — no
auto mated  ma chi ne s. S o we  waited over a n  hou r to pay our ticket. T ime t ha t  wee nd ed up  paying wi t h  ou rti cke t( pe r hou r p arking) . The cash ier  d idn’t want t o 
r efund us f orthe waitingtim e. Ifth e l a w doe sn’ t req uire a n y stan dards
req ui r ing wa i ting ti m e s— wh y would a parking op e rator ever beincent iv i ze d tohav e an effic ie nt ch e ckout s y st e m ?  Es p ecially if th ey are theo nly  parki ng  in town.Anywa ys lot s of sketch y co nsumer vi olatio n s in th i s space .

~~~ 
ha nni abuW hi le  Iag r eet ha t's a h assle, I  d on 't th inkt h i s  sho uld  res ult i n a refund.
I t's  lik e  or derin g din ner,  e ating  it, a nd th en  wanting a refu nd f or the me albe cau se  youw aiteda l ong  time f or them eal .~ ~ ~ppseafield
I think  t h e  O P meantthey w e re  c h arged fo rthe  ext r a  hour  the y  s pent wai ting
i n  l in e tryin gto exi t. 

~ ~~hanni a bu
O h I se e, thoug ht th a t they didn'tt hink they sho u ld p ay just  be cause there 
was a lo ng l i ne  to get o ut.
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bredren
My SUS com pa ny, Ea syALP R focuses oncommercial p a rking en forc e me n t / vehicle
co ntrol .

First,t he peopl e who  get "in  trouble" a re often  ab sol ute lyb r az en in their
u n f airus e of co mmo n parki ng.  Th ey' rewa rned mult iple tim es  a nd  e ven  when given a"l ast  c han ce" n o tice t hey'l l ju st  k e epbreakin g  r u l es.
A tthat  po in t you  hav e  to  TOW th em. And l etm e te ll  y ou, a T OW is somethi ng 
you can't  l amp oon or g et freeinternet off of. Towing SUCKS a nddrive rs b end
the k nee  after  th i s happ ens. I  have  d ata t o pro v e  i t!
A nyhow, ano t h erthing  a bout  thesefolks is that they wil l go so far a s t o
di s p ut e t h at the  v e hic l e  was in fact in  violation  o f  w hatever pa r kin grule.
They'll  sayt he warn ings were  not real  a nd t h e  to w reason w as defin itely not real. Th ey'll  te ll the  b usi nessIT nee d s t o pay  for t he  tow.Well,  t heir fac es
change when confront ed wit h pho tos  and maps  an d  ti mes showi ng e ach violat ion !
It is n't reall y th a tfun n y, bu t it is a bigd ea l t o an y facilityb e c aus e som e
l o w-leve l ad ministrator has t o  face some rea llyp i sse d o f f pe op le who will
br eak  r u l es and l ie  because it  has alw ay s  work ed. So  it is  really i mp o rtantto
g ive  them gre atev i dence s oth e re isn 
 to_pay the_parking ticket — no
automated_machines. So_we_waited over_an_hour to pay_our ticket. Time_that we
ended up paying_with our ticket_(per_hour parking). The cashier didn’t want to
refund us for the waiting time. If the_law_doesn’t require_any_standards
requiring_waiting times — why would_a parking operator ever be_incentivized to
have_an efficient checkout system? Especially if they are_the_only parking in
town._Anyways lots of sketchy consumer violations in this space.

~~~
hanniabu
While_I agree that's a hassle, I_don't think this_should_result_in a refund.
It's like_ordering dinner, eating it, and then_wanting a refund for the meal
because_you waited a long time for the_meal.

~~~
ppseafield
I think the OP meant they_were charged for the extra_hour they_spent waiting
in line trying to_exit.

~~~
hanniabu
Oh I see,_thought that_they didn't think_they should pay just because there
was_a long line_to get out.

------
bredren
My SUS company, EasyALPR_focuses_on commercial parking_enforcement_/_vehicle
control.

First, the_people who get_"in_trouble" are_often_absolutely brazen in their
unfair use of_common_parking. They're warned multiple times and even_when
given a "last chance"_notice_they'll just keep breaking_rules.

At that point you have_to TOW them. And let me_tell you,_a TOW_is something
you can't lampoon or get free internet off of. Towing_SUCKS and drivers bend
the knee after_this happens. I have_data to_prove_it!

Anyhow, another thing_about_these folks_is that they will go so far_as to
dispute_that the vehicle was in fact_in violation of whatever_parking_rule.

They'll say the warnings were not_real and the tow reason was_definitely not
real. They'll tell the_business_IT_needs to pay for the_tow. Well, their faces
change when confronted_with photos and_maps and times showing each violation!

It isn't_really_that funny, but it is a_big_deal to any facility because some
low-level_administrator_has_to face some really pissed_off people who will
break rules and_lie because it has always worked. So it is_really important to
give_them great evidence so there_isn