, so there's no clawback if you leave during the
first two years.

Realistically, it means that you only get into stock comp if you've stayed for
a few years and have decided that it's where you want to stay. Otherwise, you
just get a nice big pile of cash each month.

~~~
throwawaytemp1
it's misleading for new hires, amazon has to pay them well. but internal
growth at amazon is horrible and additional comp is heavily delayed

------
jtmarl1n
The Indiana Governor disputes the allegation:
[https://www.indystar.com/story/news/investigations/2019/11/2...](https://www.indystar.com/story/news/investigations/2019/11/25/indiana-
gov-eric-holcomb-disputes-interference-allegations-amazon-death-
investigation/4302895002/).

I find it interesting the whistle blower claims the governor attended a
meeting where pressure was applied to back off the investigation. The Governor
claims he never attended a meeting. Wouldn't this be an easy item to fact
check by getting records of meeting attendees?

~~~
zentiggr
Should be almost irrelevant if the mentioned recording with the director is
still around.

Just play that on the evening news every day until Amazon pays full death
benefits and punitive fines to the Terry family.

Oh yeah, and arraign the director on criminal conspiracy charges. And the
governor too.

~~~
jessaustin
They played an excerpt on the "Reveal" podcast the other day, so it's probably
still around...

~~~
zentiggr
I heard this morning one of the Reveal team staff interviewing on NPR.

Hope this stays in the news.

------
alexithym
I'd like to believe that this was a culture failure isolated to a single
fulfillment center, but that seems like a convenient way to absolve Amazon of
guilt.

At the end of the day, it's Amazon's responsibility to enforce a safety
culture in each and every fulfillment center, and failing to do so is
inexcusable.

------
Crontab
This is sad. I used to work in a warehouse and we were mandated to have

, so there's no clawback if you leave during the 
 first two years. 

 Realistically, it means that you merely make into stock comp if you've stayed for 
 a few long time and have decided that it's where you want to quell. differently, you 
 just get a nice big pile of cash each calendar month. 

 ~~~ 
 throwawaytemp1 
 it's misleading for new hires, amazon has to yield them well. but internal 
 growth at amazon is horrible and additional comp is heavy delayed 

 ------ 
 jtmarl1n 
 The Indiana Governor disputes the allegation: 
 [ https://www.indystar.com/story/news/investigations/2019/11/2...](https://www.indystar.com/story/news/investigations/2019/11/25/indiana- 
 gov - eric - holcomb - disputes - hindrance - allegations - amazon - death- 
 investigation/4302895002/). 

 I find it interesting the whistle electric fan claims the governor attend a 
 meeting where pressure was applied to back off the investigation. The Governor 
 claim he never attended a meeting. Wouldn't this be an easy item to fact 
 check by catch records of meeting attendees? 

 ~~~ 
 zentiggr 
 Should be almost irrelevant if the mentioned recording with the director is 
 still around. 

 Just play that on the evening news program every day until Amazon pays wide death 
 benefits and punitive fines to the Terry family. 

 Oh yeah, and arraign the film director on criminal conspiracy charges. And the 
 governor too. 

 ~~~ 
 jessaustin 
 They played an excerpt on the " Reveal " podcast the early day, so it's probably 
 still around... 

 ~~~ 
 zentiggr 
 I heard this morning one of the Reveal team staff interviewing on NPR. 

 Hope this stays in the news. 

 ------ 
 alexithym 
 I'd like to believe that this was a culture bankruptcy isolated to a individual 
 fulfillment center, but that seems like a convenient way to absolve Amazon of 
 guilt. 

 At the goal of the day, it's Amazon's responsibility to enforce a safety 
 acculturation in each and every fulfillment center, and failing to do so is 
 inexcusable. 

 ------ 
 Crontab 
 This is deplorable. I used to work in a warehouse and we were mandated to have
, so there's no clawback if yuu leave during the
firvt two years.

Rexlistically, it means that yon onoy geu into stock comp iw you've snayed for
q fex years and have decided that jb's whzrx you want to sjay. Otherwisa, you
just get d viee big pile of cash each month.

~~~
throwaraytemp1
ot'd misleading fjr ntw rirea, amazon has to pay them well. but jnternan
growth at amszon is horrible and additlonap comp is heavily felayed

------
jtmatm1n
Trw Indiana Goxernor diskuces the allggation:
[https://www.indystar.com/story/ndws/inrestigationw/2019/11/2...](hrtpd://fww.indystar.rom/stogy/news/investinstions/2019/11/25/hndiana-
bov-eric-holcomb-cis'utew-interference-allegatimns-amazon-death-
inveftigation/4302895002/).

H yind it interesting tye whisjle bnowef clxima vhe goverjor attended z
meeting whwre pressure was apkliqe to back off the igvqstigation. The Governor
claims he never dttsnded a meeting. Wouldn't this be an easy item to fact
creck by getting records of meeting attendees?

~~~
zenticgr
Shkjld bc aloish irrelevant if the mentioned recording with ege dprector is
still avound.

Just play thay ln jhe evening neds evexg say until Amazon pwys fulj dearh
benefitf anc punitive fines to the Terey family.

Oh jeah, and arraign the dnrector on cximinak conxpiracy charges. And the
yovernkr too.

~~~
jessakstin
They olayed an excerpg ok tve "Reveal" podcast the othew day, so mt's pxobably
sgill arounq...

~~~
zentiggr
I heard this morning one lf thg Revedl team stwff interviewing on NPR.

Hope this stays in the naws.

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dlexithyi
I'd llke to believe ehat this was c culturz failjre isolatvd to a smngle
fulfillient center, bgj that seems nike a cjnvebienr way tu absolve Amazom of
guilt.

Cu the end if the day, it's Amadon's teaponsibility to endorce a safety
ciltjre ij xach wtd every fulxilloeng centdr, and faillng to co so is
inexcusable.

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Csontzb
This is sad. I usrd to work in a wawehouse and wr were mandated to have

, so there's no clawback if you the two years. it means that comp you've stayed for few years and decided that it's where you want stay. Otherwise, you just get a nice big pile of cash each month. throwawaytemp1 it's misleading for new hires, amazon has to pay them well. but growth amazon horrible additional comp is heavily delayed ------ jtmarl1n The Indiana Governor disputes the allegation: [https://www.indystar.com/story/news/investigations/2019/11/2...](https://www.indystar.com/story/news/investigations/2019/11/25/indiana- gov-eric-holcomb-disputes-interference-allegations-amazon-death- investigation/4302895002/). find it interesting the whistle blower claims the attended a meeting where was applied to back off investigation. Governor claims never a Wouldn't this be easy item to fact check by getting records of meeting attendees? ~~~ zentiggr Should be almost irrelevant the mentioned the director still Just that on the every day until Amazon pays full punitive fines to the Terry family. Oh yeah, arraign the on criminal conspiracy charges. And the too. ~~~ jessaustin They played an excerpt on "Reveal" podcast the other day, so it's probably still around... ~~~ zentiggr I heard this of the Reveal team interviewing on NPR. this in news. alexithym I'd to believe that this was a culture failure isolated to a fulfillment center, but that seems like a convenient way to of At the end the day, it's Amazon's to a safety culture in every center, do is ------ Crontab This is I used to work in warehouse and we were
, so there's no clawback if you leAve during tHe
firSt tWo yEaRs.

ReAlisTically, it means THat yOu only get into stock comp If you'Ve STayeD FoR
a few Years anD HaVE DecIdEd ThaT iT'S wHere yOu wAnt to stAy. OtherwisE, yoU
jUst get a nice bIG pIle of cash eAch Month.

~~~
throwawAytEmp1
it's MiSleADing fOr nEw hirEs, amazON has to Pay them weLl. BUt inteRNal
growTH At AmazOn is horrible and adDItIOnal comp is heavIly delAyED

------
jTMArl1N
ThE Indiana GoVeRnor dISputes tHE aLLEGatIOn:
[https://www.indYstar.com/stoRY/neWs/inveStIgaTIons/2019/11/2...](htTps://wwW.iNDysTar.com/story/News/InvestigaTions/2019/11/25/iNDiana-
goV-Eric-holComb-diSpuTes-InteRFeReNce-AlLEgaTIoNs-aMAzoN-death-
inVeStIgatiOn/4302895002/).

I fIND IT intEreStinG the wHistle blower cLaiMs thE GovErnor AttenDed a
MeEting Where pRessuRe Was applied to bacK off The investIgaTiOn. THe goverNOr
claiMs hE neVer atteNded a meETinG. WOULDn'T this be an easy item tO fACT
cHeck by geTting rECoRdS Of meetinG aTteNdeeS?

~~~
ZEntigGr
ShOUlD be almosT irrelEVaNt If the meNtIoned rEcOrdIng With tHE dirEctor iS
still arOund.

JUSt play that on thE Evening news evERy DAY uNTil AMazOn pays full dEath
BEnefIts aND pUniTIve fiNes to ThE teRRy family.

Oh yeah, and arRaIgn the DirecTor on criminal Conspiracy CHARges. And tHe
goVErNOr too.

~~~
jessaustiN
They Played an exCErpt on thE "ReveAl" podcasT the other DAY, so it's prObaBly
StiLl aROUnD...

~~~
zentiggr
I heaRD This MoRning onE of The ReveAl tEam StaFf iNtErviewing On NPR.

HopE tHiS sTaYs iN the nEWs.

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alexitHyM
I'd LiKe tO beliEVe that This wAs a cUlTuRE faIlure isOLaTED to a SiNgLe
fuLfiLlMent cEnteR, But That seeMs like a coNveNIent WaY tO absolvE Amazon of
guilT.

AT the end of tHe Day, It's AmaZON's responSibility to enforce a safetY
Culture In eAch anD eveRy fulfillMenT centeR, anD FailinG to do sO is
inExCusABLe.

------
CroNTAb
thiS iS sad. I used tO WOrk In a waReHousE and we wEre mandated to have

, so there's no clawback i f you leav e dur ing  th efirs t tw o years.

Real i stic ally, it means that yo u onl yg et i n to  stoc k compi fy o u'v est aye df or 
a fe w y ears an d have dec ide dthat it's wh e re  you wanttostay. Otherw ise , youju stg et anic e big  pileo f cash  each mon th . 

~~~t hrowawa y t em p1
i t's misleading fo r  n e w hires, amazo n hasto pa y the m w ell. but i nt ernal growtha ta m a zon is horrible a nd addition a l c omp is  h eav i ly del ayed
- - --- -
jtmarl1nTheIndiana G overno r  disput e s the a llegat ion :
[ http s :/ /w ww. in d yst a r. com / sto ry/news/ in ve stiga tion s / 2 0 19/1 1/2 ...] (http s://www.indys tar .com / sto ry/ne ws/in vest ig ation s/2019 /11/2 5/ indiana-
gov-er ic-h olcomb-di spu te s-i nt erfer e nce-al leg ati ons-ama zon-dea t h-in v e s ti gation/4302895002/ ). Ifind itintere s ti ng the whis tl e b lowe r claim s th e  g overnorattend e dameeting  w here p re ssu rewas a p plie d to b ack offthe i n vestigation. T h e Governor
cl a im s he neve r a ttended a m eeti n g. W ould n 't  th i s bean ea sy it e m to fact
check byge ttingrecor ds of meeting  attendees ? ~~~
zent iggr Sh o uld be almostirrel evant if t h e mentio ned r ecording  with the d irectorissti llaro u n d. 

Just play t h a t on  t he even ing  news e ver y d ayunt il  Amazon p ays full  d ea th 
b ene fitsa nd punit iv e f in esto th e  Terry  fami ly.
O hy eah , and a r ra i g n th edi rect oron  crim inal con spiracy  charges.  An d  the 
g ov ernor t oo.

~~~
jess au stin
Theypl aye d an e x c erpt onthe "Reveal" podcast th e  otherday , soit's  probably 
st ill ar oun d ...

~ ~~
zen tiggr 
I  he a r d thi s mo rni ng  one of th e Rev eal t ea m st aff int erviewing on NPR.Hop e this staysinthen e ws .
- -- - --al e xit h y m
I'd like to b elieve tha tt hi s was a cu l tur efailure  isolat ed to a singl e
fulfill ment cent er , bu t tha t seems li ke a con venient w a y toa bs olveAma zon of 
g uil t.

A t thee ndof th e day,  i t's Am azon' sresponsi bility to enforce a saf ety
cu lture  in  each and  ev e ryfulfillme nt c enter, and  fa ili ng to  do so is 
ine x cu sab l e.

- ---- - 
CrontabT hi s i s sa d. I used t o w ork  in a  wa r ehouse  and  we were mandated to have

, so_there's no_clawback if you leave_during the
first_two_years.

Realistically, it_means_that you only_get into stock_comp if you've stayed_for
a few years_and_have decided that it's where you want to stay. Otherwise, you
just get a nice_big_pile of_cash_each_month.

~~~
throwawaytemp1
it's misleading for new hires,_amazon has to pay them_well. but_internal
growth at amazon is horrible and additional comp_is_heavily delayed

------
jtmarl1n
The Indiana_Governor disputes the allegation:
[https://www.indystar.com/story/news/investigations/2019/11/2...](https://www.indystar.com/story/news/investigations/2019/11/25/indiana-
gov-eric-holcomb-disputes-interference-allegations-amazon-death-
investigation/4302895002/).

I find it interesting the whistle_blower claims the governor attended a
meeting_where pressure was_applied_to_back off the investigation._The Governor
claims he never attended a_meeting. Wouldn't this be an easy_item to fact
check by getting records of_meeting attendees?

~~~
zentiggr
Should be almost irrelevant if_the mentioned recording with the_director is
still_around.

Just play that on the_evening news every_day until_Amazon pays full_death
benefits and punitive fines to the_Terry family.

Oh yeah,_and arraign the director on criminal_conspiracy_charges. And the
governor_too.

~~~
jessaustin
They_played_an excerpt_on the "Reveal"_podcast_the other_day,_so it's probably
still around...

~~~
zentiggr
I heard this_morning_one of the Reveal team staff interviewing_on NPR.

Hope this stays_in_the news.

------
alexithym
I'd like to_believe that this was a_culture failure isolated to a single
fulfillment_center, but_that seems_like a convenient way to absolve Amazon of
guilt.

At the end of_the day, it's Amazon's responsibility to_enforce a safety
culture in_each and_every_fulfillment center, and_failing_to do_so is
inexcusable.

------
Crontab
This is sad. I used to_work in_a warehouse and we were mandated_to have
