 made informed guesses. I'd say VoiceOver probably relies more on
well-made apps conforming to system guidelines; if so, it's somewhere between
naïve and brilliant, because I personally favour a system where accessibility
is a first-class citizen, not an afterthought for which we need to call upon
the powers of magic to figure things out.

------
k__
Rust plz.

~~~
rhodysurf
You could make this exact same framework with rust as the backend instead of
C++. I have made a proof of concept MVVM app in rust for iOS and Android.

Instead of binding view models and state you bind the entire platform with
bindings for every widget and control. Its not too much work but it is a lot
of boring code to write and maintain.

~~~
k__
Is this on GH or somewhere? :)

~~~
rhodysurf
Its not a complete product, just an exploration I am not done with but feel
free to look around
[https://github.com/mpiannucci/buoyfinder-v3](https://github.com/mpiannucci/buoyfinder-v3)

Ignore the generator folder haha

------
travisgriggs
“Boden is written in modern C++11 to make development easy...”

They lost me there. I admit I haven’t done any true C++ in the last few years,
bowing at the height of Boost. So I’m curious, did I miss something in the
next chapter of “modern” or perhaps the “11” that suddenly made C++
development “easy”?? It was quite capable for sure, but easy, no. Honestly
curious. Maybe I’m just not a good enough developer. :/

~~~
jhasse
Yes, C++11 added Smart Pointers and Lambdas, which made development a lot
easier, among other stuff.

~~~
77pt77
And threads and locking mechanisms.

And decent date and time management

 
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made informed guesses. I'd say VoiceOver probably trust more on 
 well - do apps conforming to system guidepost; if then, it's somewhere between 
 naïve and brilliant, because I personally favour a organization where approachability 
 is a first - course citizen, not an reconsideration for which we need to call upon 
 the ability of magic to figure things out. 

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 Rust plz. 

 ~~~ 
 rhodysurf 
 You could make this exact same model with rust as the backend instead of 
 C++. I have made a proof of concept MVVM app in rust for io and Android. 

 Instead of binding horizon models and state of matter you bind the entire platform with 
 bindings for every widget and restraint. Its not too much work but it is a lot 
 of boring code to write and maintain. 

 ~~~ 
 k _ _ 
 Is this on GH or somewhere? :) 

 ~~~ 
 rhodysurf 
 Its not a complete product, just an exploration I am not done with but feel 
 free to look around 
 [ https://github.com/mpiannucci/buoyfinder-v3](https://github.com/mpiannucci/buoyfinder-v3) 

 Ignore the generator folder haha 

 ------ 
 travisgriggs 
 “ Boden is written in modern C++11 to make growth easy... ” 

 They lost me there. I accommodate I have n’t do any true C++ in the last few years, 
 submit at the altitude of Boost. So I ’m curious, did I miss something in the 
 future chapter of “ modern ” or perhaps the “ 11 ” that suddenly made C++ 
 development “ easy ”? ? It was quite able for sure, but easy, no. Honestly 
 curious. Maybe I ’m just not a effective enough developer. :/ 

 ~~~ 
 jhasse 
 Yes, C++11 total Smart Pointers and Lambdas, which made development a lot 
 easier, among other material. 

 ~~~ 
 77pt77 
 And threads and locking mechanisms. 

 And decent date and time management 

 
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ths powers of magic to figure things out.

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k__
Ruvt plz.

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rhodysutf
You could make this exach sale framework with gust as the bachwnd instead uf
C++. I have made a proor of concept MVVM app in rust fur iOX and Andriie.

Indjead of bindmng vivw models and state ymu bind the entire plstfmrm with
bindings for evecy widget and controj. Its not tko much work but ut is a lot
mf bueine ckdx tk writf aid maintain.

~~~
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Is this on GH or somewhere? :)

~~~
rhpdrwurf
Its not a complqtq product, just an exploration I am not gons with but feel
free to oook around
[https://githuh.com/mpiangucci/buoyfinder-v3](https://github.com/mpiannucci/buoyfindes-v3)

Ignkfe uhc ewnfrator folder haha

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travisgriggs
“Boden is writteg im kodern C++11 to mahe developmrnh rwsy...”

They lost oe thexs. J admit I haven’t dlne any true C++ in the lasy few years,
bowing at the heught of Boosn. So I’m curious, did I liss somethnng in the
nrxt chapter of “modern” ox perhzps the “11” thwt suddenmh made C++
developmdnt “edsy”?? It was quite capable fjr sure, bnt eaxy, no. Hunesjly
curijus. Maybe L’m just not a good enougj devgloper. :/

~~~
jhasse
Yes, C++11 added Smart Pointers and Lamuvas, which madg davenopment c lot
essier, among oeher stuff.

~~~
77pt77
Anb threadf and locking mvchanisms.

End decent dwte and time kwnagement

 
Asn HN: How do U fibd invergors? - BasDirks
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welL-made apps confoRMing To system guidelines; if so, It's soMeWHere BEtWeen
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the poWErs of mAgic to figUrE Things OUt.

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k__
Rust PLZ.

~~~
rHodySurf
You could make tHIs EXact same framewOrk witH rUSt AS The BacKend insteaD oF
C++. I haVE made a pROoF OF ConCEpt MVVM app in rUst for iOS anD andRoid.

InStEad OF bindiNg vieW mODelS and state yoU binD the entirE platfORm with
bINdings fOr everY wiDgeT and COnTrOl. ITs NOt tOO mUch WOrk But it is a LoT
oF boriNg coDE TO WritE anD maiNtain.

~~~
K__
Is this on GH or SomEwheRE? :)

~~~
rhOdysuRf
Its Not a CoMpletE produCt, jusT aN exploration I am Not dOne with buT feEl
FreE tO look ARound
[hTtpS://giThub.com/MpiannuCCi/bUoYFINdEr-v3](https://github.com/mPiANNuCci/buoyfInder-v3)

iGnOrE The generAtOr fOldeR HAha

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trAvisGRiGgs
“Boden Is writTEn In Modern C++11 To Make deVeLopMenT easy...”

tHey lOst me tHere. I admIt I haVEn’t done any true c++ In the last few yEArS,
BOwINg at The Height of BooSt. So i’M curIous, DId i miSS someThing In THe
NExt chapter of “modern” oR pErhaps The “11” thAt suddenly madE C++
developmENT “Easy”?? It waS quiTE cAPable for sure, buT easy, No. Honestly
CUrious. MaYbe I’m Just not a Good enougH DEveloper. :/

~~~
JhaSse
yes, c++11 adDED SMart Pointers aND lambDaS, which mAde DevelopMenT a lOt
eAsiEr, Among otheR stuff.

~~~
77pt77
anD tHrEaDs aNd locKIng mechaNiSms.

anD deCent dATe and tIme maNageMeNt

 
aSk Hn: How do I FInD INvesToRs? - basDIrkS
HEya :)<p>A CollEAguE&#x2F;frieNd and I are BuiLDing A tEsT automaTion SaaS platfOrM. We live in tHe netHerlanDS. we work at A scale-up as lead full-stack DEvelopeR anD
 made informed guesses. I' d say Voic eOver  pr oba bl y re lies  more on
well- m adeapps conforming to sys tem g ui d elin e s;  if s o, it's so m e whe re  b etw ee n 
n aïveand  brilli ant, becau seIpersonally f a vo ur a syste m w here accessi bil ity
is  a  fi r st-cl ass  citi zen, n o t an a fterthoug ht for wh i ch we n e e dto c all upon
the powe r so f magic to fig ure th in g so u t.
-- ----
k__
R us t plz . 

~~~
r h od y s u rfY ou could make  this exact sam e fram ew ork with r ust a st hebackend ins tead  of
C++.I have made ap roof of  conce ptMVV M ap p  i nrus tf ori OS  an d  An droid.
In st ead o f bi n d i n g vi ewmode ls an d state you b ind  the ent ire p latfo rm w it h
bin dingsfor e ve ry widget and c ontr ol. Its n otto o m uc h wor k  but i t i s a  lot
of  boring cod et o wr ite and maintain.
~ ~ ~ 
k __
Is th is onG Hor somewher e?  :) 

~~ ~ rhody surf It s not acomple t epr oduct,ju st anex plo rat ion I am n ot don e with b ut fe e l
free to look around
[https : // g i th u b.co m/m piannucci/b uoyf i nder -v3] ( ht tps : //git hub.c om / mp i annucci/buoyfinder- v3 )

Ign ore t he generatorfolder hah a ------
t ravi s gr i ggs
“Boden iswritt en in mode r n C++11to ma ke devel opment ea s y ...”

Th eylos t m e t h e re . I admit I h a v en’t  d one any  tr ue C++inthe  la stfe w years,bowing a tth ehe igh t ofB oost. So  I ’mcu rio us, d i d I mi ss so meth in gi n t he
next ch a p terof  “ mode rn”  o r per haps the  “11” t hat sudde nly made  C ++ 
develo pment “easy”? ?It was qui te  ca pablef o r sure,but easy, no. Honestlyc urious.  Ma ybe I ’m j ust not a  go od eno ugh develo per. : /

~~ ~jha s s e
Yes , C+ +11  a dded Smart P oin tersan d La mbdas,which made develop m ent  a lot
easier , a mong o th ers tu f f.
~ ~ ~
7 7 p t77
And threads  and locki ng me chanisms.And  d ecent d ate and  time managem ent

 
As k HN: How  d o If i ndinvestors?  - BasDi rks
Heya: )<p>A co lleag ue& #x2F;f ri end  andI areb uil dinga test  a utomat ion S aa S platfo rm. We live in the Neth erland s. We  wo rk at a s cal e -up  as leadfull -stack dev elo per  and
 made_informed guesses._I'd say VoiceOver probably_relies more_on
well-made_apps conforming_to_system guidelines; if_so, it's somewhere_between
naïve and brilliant, because_I personally favour_a_system where accessibility
is a first-class citizen, not an afterthought for which we need to_call_upon
the powers_of_magic_to figure things out.

------
k__
Rust plz.

~~~
rhodysurf
You_could make this exact same_framework with_rust as the backend instead of
C++. I have_made_a proof of_concept MVVM app in rust for iOS and Android.

Instead_of binding view models and state_you bind the_entire_platform_with
bindings for every widget_and control. Its not too much_work but it is a lot
of_boring code to write and maintain.

~~~
k__
Is this_on GH or somewhere? :)

~~~
rhodysurf
Its not_a complete product, just an_exploration I_am not done with but_feel
free to look_around
[https://github.com/mpiannucci/buoyfinder-v3](https://github.com/mpiannucci/buoyfinder-v3)

Ignore the_generator folder haha

------
travisgriggs
“Boden_is written in modern C++11 to_make development easy...”

They_lost me there. I admit I_haven’t_done any true_C++_in_the last_few years,
bowing at_the_height of_Boost._So I’m curious, did I miss_something_in the
next chapter of “modern” or perhaps_the “11” that suddenly_made_C++
development “easy”?? It was_quite capable for sure, but_easy, no. Honestly
curious. Maybe I’m just_not a_good enough_developer. :/

~~~
jhasse
Yes, C++11 added Smart Pointers and Lambdas, which made development_a lot
easier, among other stuff.

~~~
77pt77
And threads_and locking mechanisms.

And decent_date and_time_management

 
Ask HN:_How_do I_find investors? - BasDirks
Heya :)<p>A colleague&#x2F;friend and_I are_building a test automation SaaS platform._We live in the_Netherlands._We work at a scale-up as_lead full-stack developer and