 new subscribers,

... and $$$

have the most-pinned flickr images generated for pinterest, with the author
not seeing a single cent... not even having the satisfaction of seeing their
popularity on pinterest reflect in their flickr stats?

And: Pinterest does not even have the decency to display the author name and
license info next to the image.

Pinterest's business model is flawed; it is based on systematic violation of
copyright. At some point, someone will start a class-action lawsuit and invite
flickr photographers whose works got "pinned" to sign up, to reclaim part of
that >$200 million pie.

In fact, this seems like a valid startup idea to me: Create a one-page website
explaining to flickr users what has been going on. Do a systematic reverse
image search to find out which authors have been affected and invite them to
join. Arrange with an interested lawfirm to get a % of their fee in exchange
for delivering the list of potential plaintiffs.

~~~
js2
Recently, I wanted to make some picture postcards of various locations around
the US for personal use, so I went looking for images. I found many on Flickr.
I wanted to compensate the original photographer. There is no easy way to do
this.

At best, some photographs have a "request to license" link that bounces you to
a third party (typically Getty Images) which offers to "Review the photo to
determine if it's a good fit for licensing through us; Contact the
photographer; Handle the details like releases and pricing" and takes "between
two and seven days to arrange licensing." with prices typically around $100
for usable resolution for a postcard.

At worst, you have to sign in to Yahoo so that you can send the photographer a
message about wanting to use their photo. You may or may not get a reply, and
you have to arrange how to pay the photographer, if at all.

This may make sense for images which are to be used in a commercial context,
but for personal use like how I wanted to use the images, it's way too
expensive and much too much friction.

The vast majority of images will never be used commercially. There should be
an easier way to remunerate the photographer, and at more reasonable prices. A

new subscribers, 

... and $ $ $ 

 have the most - pin flickr image generated for pinterest, with the writer 
 not understand a single cent... not even have the satisfaction of seeing their 
 popularity on pinterest reflect in their flickr stats? 

 And: Pinterest does not even have the decency to display the author name and 
 license information next to the image. 

 Pinterest's business model is flawed; it is free-base on systematic violation of 
 copyright. At some point, someone will start a class - military action lawsuit and invite 
 flickr photographers whose works got " pin " to sign up, to reclaim part of 
 that > $ 200 million pie. 

 In fact, this look like a valid startup idea to me: Create a one - page website 
 explaining to flickr users what has been belong on. Do a systematic reverse 
 image search to find out which writer have been affected and invite them to 
 join. Arrange with an interested lawfirm to get a% of their fee in exchange 
 for delivering the list of potential plaintiff. 

 ~~~ 
 js2 
 Recently, I desire to make some movie postcard of various locations around 
 the US for personal use, so I went looking for images. I found many on Flickr. 
 I wanted to pay the original photographer. There is no easy way to do 
 this. 

 At best, some photographs get a " request to license " link that bounces you to 
 a third party (typically Getty Images) which offers to " Review the photo to 
 determine if it's a good paroxysm for licensing through us; Contact the 
 photographer; Handle the details like releases and pricing " and take " between 
 two and seven days to arrange licensing. " with prices typically around $ 100 
 for available resolution for a postcard. 

 At worst, you have to sign in to Yahoo so that you can commit the photographer a 
 message about wanting to practice their photo. You may or may not get a reply, and 
 you have to arrange how to give the photographer, if at all. 

 This may reach sense for image which are to be used in a commercial context, 
 but for personal use like how I wanted to use the images, it's way besides 
 expensive and much too much friction. 

 The vast majority of images will never be used commercially. There should be 
 an easier way to remunerate the photographer, and at more fair prices. A
 nea subscribers,

... and $$$

have tme most-pinned flnxkr imeges geherated wor pinterest, with the authoc
not seeibg a single cent... not exen havinh the sarisfection of seeing their
poiblarifn on 'iiterest reflect in their xlickr stats?

Ang: Oiuterest does not even have the decensy to dosolay the authot namt agd
lidvnwe info next to the image.

Pintsrest's uusiness model os flawed; it is based on sjstelatic violation of
fopyright. Aj soiw point, someune will suaxt a class-adtion lawsuit and invite
flickr ohotoyraphers whisw wltks got "pinnxd" to fign up, to rcblaim pdrt of
tnat >$200 million ple.

In hact, this seems like a vanid startup idea tj me: Creade a one-page websitw
ezplaiting to woicyr hsxrs what jas been goinf on. Do a ststematic reverse
imsgq search to fihd out wrich authors have been affected and invpte fhem to
join. Arrange wity an interested lawfitm to get w % of their fee in exchange
for delivering the lisd of 'ogenuiql plxunhiffs.

~~~
js2
Recently, I wanted to make some picture loxtbards of various jocations atoknc
jhe US for perronal bae, so I went looking for imwges. U found mwny pn Flickr.
I wanted to compenwate the oriyinql photographer. Thzre is no eary wsy to do
this.

At best, some phocograpgs have a "rfquest to uicense" link thag bputces you to
a third party (trpically Jetty Images) whivh offqrs to "Revlew tma photo to
determinf if nt's a good fit vor licensing through us; Contacv the
photograkhes; Hdndle thz detalls like releasqs and pricing" and tahes "bdtween
two znd sevxn days to awrange licenshjg." with pricxs typicajly qroubd $100
for jrable resolutipn for a ioftcaed.

At worst, you havc to rjgn in to Yahoo so that you can srnd thq ihovogra[ver a
message abojt dsntine to ust tmeif phpto. You may or may nmt gst a reply, and
you naye to arrqnge how to pay the pnotographer, if at wll.

Thms may make segse for images which are to be used in w cjmmercial cogtexb,
but for persoual use like how I wanted to use the imajes, it's way too
expensivw and much too much nriction.

The tast mwjority ox images will never ve used commerciakly. There should be
an easies way to remunerate the photographer, and at more reasonable prices. A

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 new subscribers,

... and $$$

have the mOst-pinned fLickr ImaGes GeNeraTed fOr pinterest, witH The aUthor
not seeing a single cEnt... noT eVEn haVInG the sAtisfacTIoN OF seEiNg TheIr
POpUlariTy oN pinterEst reflect In tHeIr flickr statS?

anD: Pinterest DoeS not even have The DecencY tO diSPlay tHe aUthor Name anD
LicensE info next To THe imagE.

pintereST'S bUsinEss model is flawed; iT Is BAsed on systematIc violAtIOn OF
CopYriGht. At some pOiNt, somEOne will STaRT A ClaSS-action lawsuiT and invite
fLIckR photoGrAphERs whosE workS gOT "piNned" to sign uP, to rEclaim parT of
thaT >$200 Million PIe.

In facT, this sEemS liKe a vALiD sTarTuP IdeA To Me: CREatE a one-pagE wEbSite
eXplaINING to fLicKr usErs whAt has been goinG on. do a sYSteMatic ReverSe
imAgE searCh to fiNd out WhIch authors have bEen aFfected anD inViTe tHeM to
joIN. ArranGe wIth An interEsted laWFirM tO GET a % Of their fee in exchanGe
FOR dEliverinG the liST oF pOTential pLaIntIffs.

~~~
JS2
recenTly, I WAnTed to makE some pICtUrE postcaRdS of varIoUs lOcaTions ARounD
the US For persoNal usE, So I went looking FOr images. I founD MaNY On fLickR.
I wAnted to compEnsaTE the OrigINaL phOTograPher. THeRE iS No easy way to do
this.

At BeSt, some PhotoGraphs have a "reQuest to licENSE" link thaT bouNCeS You to
a third parTy (typIcally GettY images) whIch ofFers to "ReView the phOTO to
deterMinE if It's A goOD FiT for licensing THRougH uS; ContacT thE
photogRapHer; hanDle ThE details lIke releaSeS aNd PrIciNg" and TAkes "betwEeN
twO aNd sEven dAYs to arRange LiceNsInG." WitH prices TYpICAlly ArOuNd $100
foR usAbLe resOlutIOn fOr a postCard.

At worSt, yOU havE tO sIgn in to yahoo so that yoU cAn send the pHoTogRapher A
MEssage abOut wanting to use their phoTO. You may Or mAy not Get a Reply, and
yOu hAve to aRraNGe how tO pay thE photOgRapHER, if at ALL.

THis MaY make sense FOR imAges wHiCh arE to be usEd in a commercial conTExt,
But for personaL usE likE HOw i waNTeD To uSe THe iMAGes, it's way too
expEnsive and mUcH ToO much frictIOn.

THe Vast majOrity of ImageS Will nevEr be used cOmmercialLy. therE SHouLd be
an easiEr way to rEmunerate THe phoTOgRapheR, anD at morE rEasOnablE priceS. a

 new subscribers,

... and  $$$

have  themos t-p in nedflic kr images gene r ated  for pinterest, with t he au th o r
no t  s eeing  a sing l ec e nt. ..  n otev e nhavin g t he sati sfaction o f s ee ing their
po p ul arity on p int erest reflec t i n thei rfli c kr st ats ?

An d: Pin t erestdoes notev e n have the dec e n cy  todisplay the autho r  n a me and
license  infone x tt o  th e i mage.

Pin te rest' s  busine s sm o d eli s flawed; itis based on sys temati cvio l ationof
co py r igh t. At somepoin t, someon e will start a class-a ctionlaw sui t an d  i nv ite 
f l ick r  p hot o gra phers wh os eworks  got " p i nned " t o si gn up , to reclaimpar t of tha t >$2 00 mi llio npie.
In fa ct, t hi s seems like avali d startup  id ea  to  m e: Cr e ate aone -pa ge webs ite
exp l ain in g t oflickr users whatha s be en going  on. D o  a  s y stematic  r eve rsei m age s earc h  t o find o ut whi c hau thors h av e been  a ffe cte d and invi te the m to
joi n. Ar r ange with an i n terested lawf i rm t og et a  %of their fe e in exch ange fo r d e liver ing t he li s t of potential plai nt iffs.
~~~js2
Recently,  I wantedt o make som e pi c tu r e postcards of  vari ous locati o ns aroun d
the  US forpersonalu s e, so Iwen t l ook ing f or  images. I fo u n d ma ny  on Fli ckr .
I wan ted  to  co mpe ns ate the o riginalph ot og ra phe r. Th e re is no  e asy  w ayto do this.
At b est,  s om e  ph otograp h sh a ve a  " re ques t t olicen se"l ink  that b ounces yo u t o 
a t hi rd  party(typically Ge tt y Images)wh ich  offer s to "Revi ew the photo to
determi n e if it 'sa goo d fi t for lic ens ing th rou g h us;Contac t the 
p hot o g raphe r ;  H and le  the detai l s  li ke re le ases  and pr icing" and takes " b etw een
two and s eve n da y s  t o a r ra n geli c ens i n g." with prices  typically  a r ou nd $100
fo r  us ab le reso lutionfor a postcar d.

At wo rst, youha ve t o sig n in to Ya hoo so t hat you c a n sen d  t he ph oto graphe ra
m essag e abou t  wa nting  to us etheirphoto .You mayor may not get a reply,  and
y ou ha veto arrang e h o w t o pay the  pho tographer,  if  at  all. 

T h is ma y ma k esen s e for  ima g es whicha re  to b eused in a c o m m erc ial c ont e xt,
bu t fo r personal use li k e how I wanted  tou s e t hei mage s,  it's way tooexp en s i ve and m uc h too muchfriction .The v ast ma jority  of ima g e sw ill ne verbeused comm erc ia l ly. The re  s h ould b e
an  e asierway to remu n e rate the photogr apher , and a t  mo re re as onablep rice s. A

 new_subscribers,

... and_$$$

have the most-pinned flickr_images generated_for_pinterest, with_the_author
not seeing a_single cent... not_even having the satisfaction_of seeing their
popularity_on_pinterest reflect in their flickr stats?

And: Pinterest does not even have the decency to_display_the author_name_and
license_info next to the image.

Pinterest's_business model is flawed; it_is based_on systematic violation of
copyright. At some point, someone_will_start a class-action_lawsuit and invite
flickr photographers whose works got "pinned" to_sign up, to reclaim part of
that_>$200 million pie.

In_fact,_this_seems like a valid_startup idea to me: Create a_one-page website
explaining to flickr users what_has been going on. Do a systematic_reverse
image search to find out which_authors have been affected and_invite them_to
join. Arrange with an interested_lawfirm to get_a %_of their fee_in exchange
for delivering the list of_potential plaintiffs.

~~~
js2
Recently, I_wanted to make some picture postcards_of_various locations around
the_US_for_personal use,_so I went_looking_for images._I_found many on Flickr.
I wanted to_compensate_the original photographer. There is no easy_way to do
this.

At best,_some_photographs have a "request_to license" link that bounces_you to
a third party (typically Getty_Images) which_offers to_"Review the photo to
determine if it's a good fit for licensing_through us; Contact the
photographer; Handle the_details like releases and_pricing" and_takes_"between
two and seven_days_to arrange_licensing." with prices typically around $100
for usable_resolution for_a postcard.

At worst, you have to_sign in to Yahoo_so_that you can send the photographer_a
message about wanting to use their_photo. You may or may_not_get_a reply, and
you have to_arrange how to pay the photographer,_if at all.

This_may make sense for images which are_to_be used in a commercial context,
but_for_personal use like how I wanted_to_use_the images, it's way too
expensive_and much too much friction.

The vast_majority of images will never be used commercially. There_should be
an easier_way to remunerate the photographer,_and_at_more reasonable prices. A
