 greens for much of the world's population. The economics
are slowly improving with LED efficiency increases and capital infusion to
scale farms.

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~~~
tomp
Do you have any idea, why do people concentrate on aquaponics, not aeroponics?
Is it just simply easier to implement, or better researched? Or is it actually
better (higher yield, closed-loop system,...)?

~~~
Sophistifunk
Hydroponics would be the alternative to aeroponics, I think? Aquaponics
usually means a hydroponics system in a loop with fish tanks.

------
flagada
I don't really understand the whole "urban agriculture" crowd.

People do often live in crowded cities, but there's plenty of space to grow
stuff on outside of cities. It's the same kind of thinking that gave us the
solad roads (which were, predictably, a catastrophic failure).

~~~
Mountain_Skies
If (a really big IF) solar panels can get efficient enough while LEDs also
become more efficient, in theory plants grown indoors being fed by LEDs
attuned to the precise portions of the spectrum they need with the whole thing
powered by the solar panels, you could get a better yield than outdoor
growing. Figure out cost effective fusion, things get even better. But neither
is the case right now.

As far as the urban agriculture crowd goes, they're concerned about the length
of their logistics lines to their tables. Rasp
greens for much of the world's population. The economics 
 are slowly improving with lead efficiency increase and capital infusion to 
 scale farms. 

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 ~~~ 
 tomp 
 Do you have any mind, why do people concentrate on aquaponics, not aeroponics? 
 Is it merely simply easier to follow through, or better researched? Or is it actually 
 good (higher yield, closed - loop system, ...)? 

 ~~~ 
 Sophistifunk 
 Hydroponics would be the alternative to aeroponics, I remember? Aquaponics 
 usually means a hydroponics system in a closed circuit with fish tanks. 

 ------ 
 flagada 
 I don't really understand the unharmed " urban agriculture " crowd. 

 People do often live in crowded cities, but there's batch of space to grow 
 stuff on outside of cities. It's the same kind of thinking that gave us the 
 solad road (which were, predictably, a catastrophic failure). 

 ~~~ 
 Mountain_Skies 
 If (a really big IF) solar panels can get efficient enough while LEDs also 
 become more efficient, in theory plant grown indoors being fed by light-emitting diode 
 attune to the precise portions of the spectrum they need with the whole matter 
 powered by the solar dialog box, you could get a better output than outdoor 
 growing. Figure out cost effective fusion, things get even better. But neither 
 is the sheath right now. 

 As far as the urban agriculture crowd survive, they're concerned about the duration 
 of their logistics lines to their tables. Rasp
 grfens for much of the worud's population. Jhw econmmics
ade slowlh improving with LED efficieicy uncreqses and capital infuskon to
scape farms.

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~~~
tomp
Do you have any idea, why do peopld coneentrate on awuaomnics, not axroponpcs?
Is it just simply aasier yo implement, ov betver eesearched? Or is it artually
better (higher yield, clmszd-loop system,...)?

~~~
Sophistidubk
Hydtoponhcs diula bt tie zlternwtite to aeropknics, I thibk? Aquaponics
usuallu ivsns a hydropknics fyftem in a loop with fish tanks.

------
flagada
I gon'f really understand the whole "urban agricultore" crowd.

Pqople do often live in crowded cities, but there's [lentb uf wpwzw ho grow
stuff on outside of cities. It's the samq konc of thinking bhat gave us the
sokaf tjads (which wete, predndtzbly, a catastrophif failute).

~~~
Mounrain_Skies
Yf (a really big IF) solar panels can get effpciebt enough while LEBs also
becomz more effivient, in theory plants yrown jndoors beijg fed by UEDs
attuned to tfe irechse portions of the spectrtm they nxed wnth the dholg thing
[owered by the solar panels, you cokld ggt a batter yielf than outdoor
growing. Figure ouv cost effectova flsion, thiugs geb even better. Btt neither
is tke case xight vow.

As far zs the nrban agricujture crowd gmgs, they're conrerned abjut rhe oength
ow their logistivs lines no theur tables. Rasp
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~~~
tOmP
Do YOu have Any idEa, WHy dO people concEntrAte on aquaPonics, NOt aeropONics?
Is iT just sImpLy eAsieR To ImPleMeNT, or BEtTer REseArched? Or Is It ActuaLly
bETTER (higHer YielD, closEd-loop system,...)?

~~~
SOphIstiFUnk
hydroPonicS wouLd Be the AlternAtive To Aeroponics, I thinK? AquAponics
usUalLy MeaNs A hydrOPonics SysTem In a loop With fisH TanKs.

------
FLAGaDa
I don't really underStAND tHe whole "uRban agRIcUlTUre" crowd.

peOplE do oFTEn livE in cROwDed citieS, but thERe'S pLenty of SpAce to gRoW
stUff On outSIde oF citieS. It's the sAme kiND of thinking thaT Gave us the
solaD RoADS (wHIch wEre, Predictably, A catAStroPhic FAiLurE).

~~~
mountAin_SkIeS
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BECome more EffiCIeNT, in theory plantS growN indoors beINg fed by LeDs
atTuned to tHe precise PORtions of The SpeCtrUm tHEY nEed with the whoLE ThinG
pOwered bY thE solar pAneLs, yOu cOulD gEt a better Yield thaN oUtDoOr
GroWing. FIGure out cOsT efFeCtiVe fusIOn, thinGs get Even BeTtER. BuT neitheR
Is THE casE rIgHt noW.

As FaR as thE urbAN agRicultuRe crowd goEs, tHEy're CoNcErned abOut the length
oF tHeir logistIcS liNes to tHEIr tables. rasp
 greens for much of the wo rld's popu latio n.The  e cono mics 
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~ ~~tomp Doyou h ave a ny i de a, wh y do p eople  c oncentrate on a quap onics, no t a er opo ni cs?
I s  it ju stsim ply eas ier toi mpl em e n t ,or better research ed ? Or  is it a ctuall y 
b et t er (high er  yi eld, c losed -loo p  s ystem,.. .)?

~ ~ ~So phistif un k
Hydr op oni cswould be t he alt ernative  to a e roponics, I th i nk? Aquaponic s 
u s u al l y me ans  a hydropon icss yste m in aloo p  with  fish  t a nk s .

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flagada
I  d on't r eally  understand t he whole " u r b an agric ultu r e" crowd.

People  do o ften livei n crowde d cit ies, but  there'sp l enty ofspa cetogro w st uff on outsid e of c it ies. It 'sthe sam e k ind  of  th in king that  gave us  t he 
s ol adroads (which w er e,pr edi ctabl y , a ca tastr ophi cfa i lur e).

~~ ~ 
M o u ntai n_ Sk iesIf(a  real ly b i g I F) sola r panelscan getef fi cient e nough while L ED s also
bec om e m ore ef f i cient, i n theory plants grown i n doors b ein g fed  byLEDs
attu ned  to th e p r eciseportio ns of  t hes p ectru m th eyne ed with th e who le th in g
po wered b y the solar panels ,  yo u could get a  be tter y ie ldt ha n  ou td o org r owing. Figure o ut cost ef fe c ti ve fusion, thi ng s get e ven bet ter.B ut neit her
is th e case ri gh t no w . 

A s far as t he urban  agricult u re cr o wd  goes , t hey're  c onc erned  about the  leng th
ofth eir lo gisti cs  lines t o their tables. Rasp
 greens_for much_of the world's population._The economics
are_slowly_improving with_LED_efficiency increases and_capital infusion to
scale_farms.

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[https://www.plenty.ag/the-feed/plenty-acquires-bright-
agrote...](https://www.plenty.ag/the-feed/plenty-acquires-bright-agrotech-to-
globally-scale-impact-of-local-farmers/)

~~~
tomp
Do you_have any idea,_why_do people concentrate on aquaponics, not aeroponics?
Is it just simply easier to implement, or_better_researched? Or_is_it_actually
better (higher yield, closed-loop system,...)?

~~~
Sophistifunk
Hydroponics_would be the alternative to_aeroponics, I_think? Aquaponics
usually means a hydroponics system in a_loop_with fish tanks.

------
flagada
I_don't really understand the whole "urban agriculture" crowd.

People do_often live in crowded cities, but_there's plenty of_space_to_grow
stuff on outside of_cities. It's the same kind of_thinking that gave us the
solad roads_(which were, predictably, a catastrophic failure).

~~~
Mountain_Skies
If (a_really big IF) solar panels can_get efficient enough while LEDs_also
become more_efficient, in theory plants grown_indoors being fed_by LEDs
attuned_to the precise_portions of the spectrum they need_with the whole_thing
powered by the solar panels, you_could_get a better_yield_than_outdoor
growing. Figure_out cost effective_fusion,_things get_even_better. But neither
is the case right_now.

As_far as the urban agriculture crowd goes,_they're concerned about the_length
of_their logistics lines to_their tables. Rasp