 it
too complex the way the reporting comes out?

~~~
bartonfink
I don't know the scope of Colin's cron problems, but filtering out mail in
this case seems like a less preferable solution than simplifying the way cron
does email to begin with. Filtering e-mail in this case is like putting your
fingers in your ears when you walk by a loud stereo you've left on instead of
just turning it off. As a developer, cron doesn't give me a lot of control
over where e-mail is sent unless I jump through hoops to give myself that
control. Ignoring the complexity of the reports, and the fact that filters
like that don't easily scale across different recipients, the fact is that
cron's e-mail capability is extremely coarse-grained. For every run of every
job, the entire output is e-mailed out to the address specified in the
crontab. This gets very unwieldy.

I've had to write cron table entries with a blank mail recipient in the
crontab itself, and handle the specific mailing cases in the job script. This
sucks. I'm not sure I think the solution is something that reads cron-mail and
automatically generates filters, but I would very much like it if cron
supported e-mail lists based on return codes or something else like that.

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callmeed
1\. I want to finish my CS bachelors degree online from somewhere reputable

2\. I want an "Uber for babysitters" (yes I know of sitter city and the like,
not impressed)... we are very last-minute and spontaneous so our regular
sitters aren't always available.

3\. I often want to try making new/different cocktails but I never have all
the ingredients... ("birchbox for cocktails"?)

4\. I have a close female family member that is overweight/obese and on a
trajectory to get worse. No one else in the family knows how to help or even
approach the subject.

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swalsh
I have an infiniti with a backup cam. When it rains, the thing is sometimes
useless. I'd like a windshield wiper thing or equivalent solution for that
camera.

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michaelochurch
This isn't _
it 
 too complex the way the reporting comes away? 

 ~~~ 
 bartonfink 
 I don't acknowledge the scope of Colin's cron problems, but trickle out chain mail in 
 this case seems like a less preferable solution than simplifying the manner cron 
 does email to get down with. trickle e - chain mail in this case is like putting your 
 fingers in your ears when you walk by a brassy stereo you've left on instead of 
 just turning it off. As a developer, cron doesn't give me a batch of control 
 over where e - mail is transport unless I jump through hoops to give myself that 
 control. ignore the complexity of the reports, and the fact that filters 
 like that don't easily scale across different recipients, the fact is that 
 cron's east - mail capability is extremely coarse - grained. For every run of every 
 job, the entire output is e - mailed out to the address specified in the 
 crontab. This gets very unwieldy. 

 I've had to write cron table entries with a blank mail recipient role in the 
 crontab itself, and manage the specific mailing cases in the caper script. This 
 sucks. I'm not sure I think the solution is something that learn cron - mail and 
 automatically generates filters, but I would very a lot like it if cron 
 supported e - mail lists based on return codes or something else like that. 

 ------ 
 callmeed 
 1\. I want to finish my CS bachelors degree online from somewhere reputable 

 2\. I want an " Uber for babysitter " (yes I know of sitter city and the comparable, 
 not impressed)... we are very final - minute and spontaneous so our regular 
 brood hen aren't always available. 

 3\. I often want to try making new / different cocktails but I never consume all 
 the ingredients... (" birchbox for cocktails " ?) 

 4\. I have a close female family extremity that is overweight / obese and on a 
 trajectory to catch worse. No one else in the syndicate knows how to help or even 
 set about the subject. 

 ------ 
 swalsh 
 I receive an infiniti with a backup cam. When it rains, the thing is sometimes 
 useless. I'd like a windshield wiper thing or equivalent solution for that 
 camera. 

 ------ 
 michaelochurch 
 This isn't _
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hoo complex the way the veporting comes out?

~~~
bartmnfink
J don't kvow the scope of Colin's cron peoblens, but filtering out mxil in
thid case swems oike a less preferable skputimi than simplifylng the way cron
does emain go begin with. Filtering e-mail in this case ix pike putting yjur
fpnders pn your ears when you walk by a loud suereo you've left om instead of
just turning ih ofv. As a developer, cgon doesn't tive ne a lot of zontrol
oveg where e-majl is sent unless I jump througf hoo's to give nywelv that
controo. Ignjring the complexity of the reports, and tme fart tyat filters
like that von't easily scale actoss diffeseut recipients, the facr us thdt
crmn's d-naiu czpebimity id eetremely cozrse-grained. For every run of efewj
kob, the entide out[ue is e-mailed out to the address specifitd in the
crontab. This gets vwry unwieldy.

I've had tl write cwon table entries with a blank mail recipient in dhe
crkvtay itseud, wnd handle the specific mailing cases in the tkb sbript. This
sucks. I'i not sure O hhogk the solutiun is somsthing that reads fron-maij and
qutomaticwlly generates filters, but I woyld very muck luke it if cron
supplrted e-mail lisjs basrd on return codes or sumetging else llke that.

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czulmeed
1\. I want to fikisv my CS bachelors degree ogline fron sokewhere repotable

2\. Y want an "Kber nmr babysitters" (yes I knlw of sitter city and the like,
not impressed)... we are very lssd-mitute and sponbaneous so our wegular
sitters aren't clways available.

3\. I oftei want to trr making new/dhvferent cockvails but I nwver have auu
the ingredienys... ("birchbox for cocjtails"?)

4\. I have a clpse remale family mzover that is ovetwekghe/ohexe dnd on a
trajactofy gp get worse. No oke dlse in the family knows how to help or even
aplrjach the subject.

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fwalsh
I have sn infiniti with a backnp cam. When it rains, the thing is sometimes
uaeless. I'd lihe a windshiqld qiper thing pr equivalent solution for that
camera.

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mirhaelochurch
This isn't _
it too complex the way the reporting ~~~ I don't the scope of out in this case like a less solution than simplifying the way cron email to begin with. Filtering e-mail in this case is like putting your in your ears when you walk by a loud stereo you've left on of turning off. a developer, cron doesn't give me a lot of control over where e-mail is sent unless jump through hoops to give myself that control. the complexity of the and the fact that filters that easily scale different the is that cron's capability is extremely coarse-grained. For every run of every job, the entire output is e-mailed out to address specified crontab. This very I've to write cron with a blank mail recipient in and handle the specific mailing cases in the script. This I'm not sure I think the is something that reads cron-mail and automatically generates but I would very much like it if cron supported e-mail lists based on return something else like that. callmeed 1\. I to my bachelors online from reputable 2\. I want an "Uber for babysitters" (yes I know sitter city and the like, not impressed)... we are very spontaneous our regular sitters always available. 3\. I want try making new/different cocktails never all for 4\. have a close female member that is overweight/obese and a trajectory to get the family knows how to help or even the subject. ------ swalsh I have an with a backup cam. When it rains, the thing is sometimes useless. like a thing or equivalent solution for that camera. ------ This isn't _
 it
too complex the way the repoRting comes Out?

~~~
baRtoNfiNk
i don'T knoW the scope of ColIN's crOn problems, but filtering Out maIl IN
thiS CaSe seeMs like a LEsS PRefErAbLe sOlUTiOn thaN siMplifyiNg the way crOn
dOeS email to begiN WiTh. FilterinG e-mAil in this casE is Like puTtIng YOur
fiNgeRs in yOur earS When yoU walk by a lOuD Stereo YOu've lefT ON iNsteAd of
just turning it OFf. aS a developer, croN doesn'T gIVe ME A loT of Control
oveR wHere e-MAil is seNT uNLESs I JUmp through hooPs to give mysELf tHat
conTrOl. IGNoring The coMpLExiTy of the repoRts, aNd the fact That fiLTers
likE That don'T easilY scAle AcroSS dIfFerEnT RecIPiEntS, The Fact is thAt
CrOn's e-mAil cAPABIlitY is ExtrEmely Coarse-grained. for EverY Run Of eveRy
job, The eNtIre ouTput is E-mailEd Out to the address SpecIfied in thE
crOnTab. thIs getS Very unWieLdy.

i've had tO write cROn tAbLE ENtRies with a blank mail ReCIPiEnt in the
CrontaB ItSeLF, and handLe The SpecIFIc maiLing CAsEs in the jOb scriPT. THiS
sucks. I'M nOt sure i tHinK thE soluTIon iS sometHing that Reads CRon-mail and
autoMAtically generATeS FIlTErs, bUt I Would very muCh liKE it iF croN
SuPpoRTed e-mAil liStS BaSEd on return codes or soMeThing eLse liKe that.

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callmeeD
1\. I want to fiNISH my CS bacHeloRS dEGree online from SomewHere reputaBLe

2\. I want aN "Uber For babysItters" (yes i KNow of sitTer CitY anD thE LIkE,
not impressed)... WE Are vErY last-miNutE and spoNtaNeoUs sO ouR rEgular
sitTers aren'T aLwAyS aVaiLable.

3\. i Often wanT tO trY mAkiNg new/DIffereNt cocKtaiLs BuT i neVer have ALl
THE ingReDiEnts... ("BirChBox foR cocKTaiLs"?)

4\. I have A close femAle FAmilY mEmBer that Is overweight/oBeSe and on a
trAjEctOry to gET Worse. No oNe else in the family knows hOW to help Or eVen
apProaCh the subjEct.

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Swalsh
i haVE an infIniti wIth a bAcKup CAM. When IT RaIns, ThE thing is soMETimEs
useLeSs. I'd Like a wiNdshield wiper thing OR eqUivalent solutIon For tHAT
cAmeRA.

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mIChaElOChuRCH
This isn't _
 it
too complex the way th e reportin g com esout ?
~~~ 
bar tonfink
I don' t  kno w the scope of Colin's  cron  p r oble m s,  butfilteri n go u t m ai linth i scasesee ms like  a less pr efe ra ble solution th an simplif yin g the way cr ondoes e ma ilt o beg inwith.  Filte r ing e- mail in t hi s  casei s likep u tt ingyour
fingers in y o ur ears when youwalk b ya  l o u d s ter eo you'vele ft on instead of j u stt urning it off . As a deve l ope r, cro ndoe s n't gi ve me  a lot  of control 
ove r where e -maili s sentu nless I  jumpthr oug h ho o ps  t o g iv e  my s el f t h atcontrol.  I gn oring  the c o m plex ity  ofthe r eports, and t hefact tha t fil terslike  t hat d on't e asily  s cale across dif fere nt recipi ent s,  th efacti s that 
cr on' s e-mai l capab i lit yi s ex tremely coarse-gra in e d .For ever y runo fev e ry
job,th e e ntir e outpu t is e- mailed o ut tot he  a ddresssp ecifie dinthe 
cron t ab.This g ets very  unwi e ldy.

I've had to write cron ta b l ee ntri eswith a blan k ma i l re cipi e nt  in the
c ronta bi ts e lf, and handle thesp ecific  mail ing cases inthe job sc r i p t. Thissuck s .I 'm not sure Ithink  the solut i on is so methi ng thatreads cro n - mail and 
au tom ati cal l y  g enerates filt e r s, b ut  I woul d v ery muc h l ike  it  if  c ron
suppo rted e-m ai lli st s b asedo n return  c ode sorsomet h ing el se li ke t ha t. 
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ca l lm e e d
1\ .Iwant  to  f inish  myC S b achelor s degreeonl i ne f ro msomewhe re reputable
2 \. I wantan  "U ber fo r babysitt ers" (yes I know of sit t er city  an d the  lik e,
not im pre ssed). ..w e arevery l ast-m in ute a nd sp o n ta neo us  so our re g u lar 
sitt er s ar en't al ways available.

3 \ . I  often want t o t ry m a k in g n e w/ d iff er e ntc o cktails but I n ever haveal l 
t he ingredi e nts .. . ("bir chbox f or co c ktails" ?)

4\. I  have a c lo se f e m ale  family me mber tha t is over w eight / ob ese a ndon a
t ra jec toryto get wor se. N o oneel se inthe f am ily know s how to help or even
a pproac h the  su bject.

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s walsh
I h avean infinit i w ith  a ba cku p  cam.  Whe n  i t r a ins,thet hing is s o me tim e s 
u seless. I'd l i kea win dsh i eld wi perthing or equivale n t solution for  tha t cam era . 

-- -- --
michaelochu rch 
T h i s isn't_
 it
too_complex the_way the reporting comes_out?

~~~
bartonfink
I don't_know_the scope_of_Colin's cron problems,_but filtering out_mail in
this case seems_like a less_preferable_solution than simplifying the way cron
does email to begin with. Filtering e-mail in this_case_is like_putting_your
fingers_in your ears when you_walk by a loud stereo_you've left_on instead of
just turning it off. As a_developer,_cron doesn't give_me a lot of control
over where e-mail is sent_unless I jump through hoops to_give myself that
control._Ignoring_the_complexity of the reports,_and the fact that filters
like that_don't easily scale across different recipients,_the fact is that
cron's e-mail capability is_extremely coarse-grained. For every run of_every
job, the entire output is_e-mailed out_to the address specified in_the
crontab. This gets_very unwieldy.

I've_had to write_cron table entries with a blank_mail recipient in_the
crontab itself, and handle the specific_mailing_cases in the_job_script._This
sucks. I'm_not sure I_think_the solution_is_something that reads cron-mail and
automatically generates_filters,_but I would very much like it_if cron
supported e-mail lists_based_on return codes or_something else like that.

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callmeed
1\. I_want to finish my CS bachelors_degree online_from somewhere_reputable

2\. I want an "Uber for babysitters" (yes I know of_sitter city and the like,
not impressed)..._we are very last-minute_and spontaneous_so_our regular
sitters aren't_always_available.

3\. I_often want to try making new/different cocktails_but I_never have all
the ingredients... ("birchbox for_cocktails"?)

4\. I have a_close_female family member that is overweight/obese_and on a
trajectory to get worse._No one else in the_family_knows_how to help or even
approach_the subject.

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swalsh
I have an infiniti with_a backup cam._When it rains, the thing is sometimes
useless._I'd_like a windshield wiper thing or_equivalent_solution for that
camera.

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michaelochurch
This isn't _