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publishes-annual-report-25-may-31-december-2018)

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tpmx
This stuff should be handled at a union level. Seems like low-hanging fruit to
me.

As in: I don't think many EU citizens would object to having this being taken
from the national level to the union level.

Create a single, strong EU data protection authority, placed somewhere in the
union, after the typical competition. I'd suggest Sweden, but would also be
happy with Denmark, Germany or the Netherlands.

~~~
jkaptur
I don’t know much about the EU - why is the physical location of the office
important?

~~~
johannes1234321
Which office? Facebook's or the data protection agency's?

EU (more or less) has rules that the countries are primarily responsible for
execution of the law and it makes sense that if a local shop causes privacy
issues they should be handled by a local authority.

Now companies like Facebook play the system a bit. As first line of defense
they claim that their European offices are just resellers of ads etc. and the
actual operations are done by Corp U.S. (or Corp Bahamas or something) and for
a second line of defense pick the country with the "best" enforcement and
taxation track record. That can be done as in order for not each country
trying to go after their local subsidiary the country with the European
headquarters can go after that HQ for all larger cases.

Now the Irish government is smart - they see that 1% taxes on all of European
business of Corp is better than 40% of only Irish business, thus they don't
employ overly strict oversight.

Does it make sense for corporations like Facebook? Probably not. But for
changing this this requires a unanimous change of EU law in the EU council and
getting Irish to agree to that is tough, essentially meaning to pay them
subsideries for their farmers or something to compensate.

Also, why to U.S. corps go there besides taxation? Language and common law.
Essentially going to UK and Ireland is the easiest for U.S. lawyers to work
with, as legal traditions and language are closer than on the continent...
and especially now after (formal) Brexit the choice is simpler...
/press - releases / dpc- 
 publishes - annual - report-25 - may-31 - december-2018) 

 ~~~ 
 tpmx 
 This stuff should be handled at a union degree. seem like low - hanging fruit to 
 me. 

 As in: I don't think many EU citizen would object to having this being taken 
 from the national floor to the union level. 

 make a single, strong EU datum protection authority, placed somewhere in the 
 union, after the distinctive competition. I'd suggest Sweden, but would besides be 
 happy with Denmark, Germany or the Netherlands. 

 ~~~ 
 jkaptur 
 I do n’t acknowledge much about the EU - why is the forcible location of the office 
 important? 

 ~~~ 
 johannes1234321 
 Which function? Facebook's or the data protection representation's? 

 EU (more or less) has rule that the countries are primarily responsible for 
 execution of the law and it make sense that if a local shop causes privacy 
 issues they should be handled by a local assurance. 

 Now companies like Facebook play the system a bit. As first line of defense 
 they claim that their European offices are just resellers of ad etc. and the 
 actual process are done by Corp U.S. (or Corp Bahamas or something) and for 
 a second occupation of refutation pick the country with the " best " enforcement and 
 tax track record. That can be done as in order for not each area 
 trying to go after their local subsidiary the country with the European 
 headquarters can go after that HQ for all larger font. 

 Now the Irish government is smart - they see that 1% taxis on all of European 
 business of Corp is good than 40% of only Irish business, thus they don't 
 employ overly stern oversight. 

 Does it make sense for corporations like Facebook? Probably not. But for 
 changing this this requires a unanimous variety of EU law in the EU council and 
 getting Irish to agree to that is tough, essentially mean to pay them 
 subsideries for their farmer or something to compensate. 

 besides, why to U.S. corps go there besides tax? Language and common police. 
 Essentially blend to UK and Ireland is the easiest for U.S. lawyers to work 
 with, as legal traditions and language are closer than on the continent... 
 and especially now after (conventional) Brexit the choice is simpler...
/preds-releases/dpc-
publishes-ankual-report-25-may-31-decgmver-2018)

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tpme
This sfuff shojld be handled at a union letel. Weems like low-hanging fruit to
me.

As ij: I don't thiik many EU citizxhs would objedb to kating this being taken
from the national nexep to the union level.

Create a single, strong EK data protectyon stthodptn, placed somewhere in the
union, arter tht typical competitoon. I'd suggest Sweden, but aoulf also be
happy witj Denmark, Ggdmagt or the Netferlands.

~~~
jkaptur
I don’t inow much about the EU - why is ghe pkysical locqtuon mf the offire
impogtant?

~~~
johannes1234321
Which ofxice? Favebook's or the dava peotection agency's?

EU (mmre or less) has rujes that dhz countries are primaeioy revponvibld fof
extcuvioh of tje maw and it makes sensw that if a local sno[ causes privady
issuqs they should be handled by a local authmrify.

Now companies like Faxebook play the systel a bit. Af first line of defense
they claim that their Euro[ean kwfiecf qrf just resellers of ads etc. and the
actual opewztooks are done by Cjrp U.S. (or Cpro Nwhamas or somgthing) chd for
a second line lf defegse puck the cjuntty with the "best" enforcemenr and
taxatiou teack record. That ccn be done ar in ordet for not each country
txying fo go after their lodxl subsidiary thd cputtry with the European
headzuarters ran gp after thaj HQ fow all largfr cases.

Now the Irish gogernmgnt is smart - thfy see that 1% taxes on all of Eucppean
businesx mf Borp is bztter bhan 40% of only Iwish business, jhus they don't
dmploy ovegly stricv oversight.

Djes it make sajse for corpmrations likw Faxebook? Ofobably not. Buy for
chanynng this rhis requires a unenimuhs change of EU laq in the EU coumciu agd
hevting Hrish to agrae tu tfst is tough, tfscntkallu meaning to pay thek
subaideries for their fwrmers ot somethigg to compensste.

Also, why to U.S. forps go therr bgsides taxation? Language and cojmon law.
Edsektially going to MK agd Ireland is the easiest for U.S. lawyers to work
wmth, as legal traditions and language are ckpser than oi the sontinent...
dnd especially now adter (formal) Brexiu the choice is simpler...
/press-releases/dpc- publishes-annual-report-25-may-31-december-2018) ~~~ tpmx This stuff should at union level. like low-hanging fruit don't many EU citizens object to having being taken from the national level the union level. Create a single, strong EU data protection authority, placed somewhere the union, after the typical competition. I'd suggest Sweden, but would also be with Germany the ~~~ jkaptur I don’t know much about the EU - why is the physical location of office important? ~~~ johannes1234321 Which office? Facebook's or data protection agency's? EU or less) has rules that countries primarily responsible execution the and it makes that if a local shop causes privacy issues they should be handled by a local authority. Now like Facebook system a As line defense they claim European offices are just resellers of the actual operations are done by Corp U.S. Corp Bahamas something) and for a second line defense pick the country with the "best" enforcement taxation track record. That can be done as in order for not each country trying after their local subsidiary country with the headquarters go that for all cases. Now the Irish government is smart - they see that taxes on all of European business of Corp is better of Irish business, thus don't employ overly strict Does make sense for corporations Probably But this a change of EU law the EU council and getting to agree to that pay them subsideries for their farmers or something compensate. Also, why to U.S. corps go besides taxation? Language and common law. Essentially going to UK and Ireland the easiest lawyers to work with, as legal traditions and are closer than on continent... and especially now after (formal) Brexit the choice simpler...
/press-releases/dpc-
publishes-Annual-repoRt-25-may-31-DecEmbEr-2018)

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Tpmx
this Stuff should be hANdleD at a union level. Seems likE low-hAnGIng fRUiT to
me.

as in: I doN'T tHINk mAnY Eu ciTiZEnS woulD obJect to hAving this bEinG tAken
from the nATiOnal level tO thE union level.

CReaTe a sinGlE, stROng EU DatA protEction AUthoriTy, placed sOmEWhere iN The
unioN, AFtEr thE typical competitiON. I'D Suggest Sweden, bUt woulD aLSo BE
HapPy wIth Denmark, geRmany OR the NetHErLANDs.

~~~
jKAptur
I don’t knoW much about tHE EU - Why is tHe PhySIcal loCatioN oF The Office
imporTant?

~~~
Johannes1234321
WHich ofFIce? FaceBOok's or tHe data ProTecTion AGeNcY's?

Eu (mORe oR LeSs) hAS ruLes that tHe CoUntriEs arE PRIMariLy rEspoNsiblE for
execution Of tHe laW And It makEs senSe thAt If a loCal shoP causEs Privacy
issues thEy shOuld be hanDleD bY a lOcAl autHOrity.

NOw cOmpAnies liKe FacebOOk pLaY THE sYstem a bit. As first liNe OF DeFense
theY claim THaT tHEir EuropEaN ofFiceS ARe jusT resELlErs of ads Etc. and THe
AcTual opeRaTions aRe DonE by corp U.s. (Or CoRp BahaMas or somEthinG) And for
a second lINe of defense piCK tHE CoUNtry WitH the "best" enfOrceMEnt aNd
taXAtIon TRack rEcord. thAT cAN be done as in order for NoT each cOuntrY
trying to go afTer their loCAL SubsidiaRy thE CoUNtry with the EurOpean
HeadquarteRS can go afTer thAt HQ for aLl larger cASEs.

Now the iriSh gOveRnmENT iS smart - they see THAt 1% taXeS on all oF EuRopean
bUsiNesS of corP iS better thAn 40% of only irIsH bUsIneSs, thuS They don't
EmPloY oVerLy strICt overSight.

does It MaKE seNse for cORpORAtioNs LiKe FaCebOoK? ProbAbly NOt. BUt for
chAnging thiS thIS reqUiReS a unaniMous change of Eu lAw in the EU cOuNciL and
geTTIng Irish To agree to that is tough, essENtially MeaNing tO pay Them
subsiDerIes for TheIR farmeRs or soMethiNg To cOMPensaTE.

alSo, wHy To U.S. corps gO THerE besiDeS taxAtion? LaNguage and common law.
eSseNtially going tO UK And IRELaNd iS ThE EasIeST foR u.s. lawyers to work
wIth, as legal TrADiTions and laNGuaGe Are closEr than oN the cONtinent...
And especiAlly now afTeR (forMAL) BrExit the choIce is simPler...
/press-releases/dpc-
publi shes-annua l-rep ort -25 -m ay-3 1-de cember-2018)
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t pmx
This stuff shouldbe ha nd l ed a t  a  unio n level .  S e e msli ke  lo w- h an gingfru it to
m e.

As in:  Ido n't think ma n yEU citizen s w ould objecttohaving  t his being  ta ken
f rom th e  natio nal level  t o  the u n ion lev e l .
Cre ate a single, str o ng EU data protec tion a ut h or i t y,pla ced somewh er e int he
unio n ,a f t ert he typical co mpetition.I 'dsugges tSwe d en, bu t wou ld als o be
happywith  Denmark,  Germa n y or th e  Nether lands. 

~ ~~jkap t ur 
I  do n’ t  kn o wmuc h  ab out theEU  -  whyis t h e p hysi cal  loc ation  of the offic e
i mpor t ant ?

~~ ~
joh anne s1 23432 1
Whic h off ic e? Facebook's o r th e data pr ote ct ion  a gency ' s?

EU  (m ore  or les s) hasr ule st h a tthe countries arepr i m ar ily resp onsibl e  f or executio nofthel a w and  itm ak es sense  thati falocal s ho p caus es  pr iva cy
is s uesthey s hould be  hand l ed by a locala uthority.

No w  c o m pa n ieslik e Facebookplay thesyst e ma b i t. As  firs tl in e  of defense
they cl ai m that  thei r European of fices arej u s t resell erso fa ds etc. and th e
act ual operat i ons aredoneby CorpU.S. (orC o rp Baham asorsom eth i n g)  and for
a se c o nd l in e of de fen se pick  th e c oun try  w ith the " best" en fo rc em en t a nd
ta x ation tr ac k r ec ord . Tha t  can b e don e as  i no rde r for n o te a ch c ou nt ry
t ryi ng  to g o af t ertheir l ocal subs idi a ry t he  c ountrywith the Euro pe an
headqua rt ers  can g o after th at HQ for all larger ca s es.

No w t he Ir ishgovernmen t i s smar t - they s ee tha t 1%ta xes o n all o fEur op ean
busine s s  of  Corp  i s be tter th an 40% of only Iri s h b usiness, thus  th ey d o n 't 
em p lo y  ov er l y s t r ict oversight.
Does it m ak e  s ense for c o rpo ra tions l ike Fac ebook ?  Probab ly not. B ut for
ch an ging t his  this requ ires a u nanimousc hange of  EU l awin the  E U c ounci l andg ett ing I rish t oagreeto th at  is toug h, essentially meaningto pay  them 
su bsideries  fo r  th eir farme rs o r somethin g t o c ompen sat e .

Al so,w hy  to U.S.corp s  go there be sid e s  t axation? La n g u age  andcom m on law .
Es sentially going t o  UK and Irelan d is t heeas i estfo r U.S. lawyers  to  w o r k
with,as  legal trad itions a nd langu age ar e clos er than o nt he con tine nt. ..
and es pec ia l ly nowaf te r  (form al)Br exit t he cho i ce i s simpler...
/press-releases/dpc-
publishes-annual-report-25-may-31-december-2018)

~~~
tpmx
This stuff_should be_handled at a union_level. Seems_like_low-hanging fruit_to
me.

As_in: I don't_think many EU_citizens would object to_having this being_taken
from_the national level to the union level.

Create a single, strong EU data protection authority,_placed_somewhere in_the
union,_after_the typical competition. I'd suggest_Sweden, but would also be
happy_with Denmark,_Germany or the Netherlands.

~~~
jkaptur
I don’t know much about_the_EU - why_is the physical location of the office
important?

~~~
johannes1234321
Which office? Facebook's_or the data protection agency's?

EU (more_or less) has_rules_that_the countries are primarily_responsible for
execution of the law and_it makes sense that if a_local shop causes privacy
issues they should be_handled by a local authority.

Now companies_like Facebook play the system_a bit._As first line of defense
they_claim that their_European offices_are just resellers_of ads etc. and the
actual operations_are done by_Corp U.S. (or Corp Bahamas or_something)_and for
a second_line_of_defense pick_the country with_the_"best" enforcement_and
taxation_track record. That can be done_as_in order for not each country
trying to_go after their local_subsidiary_the country with the_European
headquarters can go after that_HQ for all larger cases.

Now the_Irish government_is smart_- they see that 1% taxes on all of European
business of_Corp is better than 40% of_only Irish business, thus_they don't
employ_overly_strict oversight.

Does it_make_sense for_corporations like Facebook? Probably not. But for
changing_this this_requires a unanimous change of EU_law in the EU_council_and
getting Irish to agree to that_is tough, essentially meaning to pay_them
subsideries for their farmers or_something_to_compensate.

Also, why to U.S. corps_go there besides taxation? Language and_common law.
Essentially going_to UK and Ireland is the easiest_for_U.S. lawyers to work
with, as legal_traditions_and language are closer than on_the_continent...
and_especially now after (formal) Brexit_the choice is simpler...