 got funded off a pitch deck. Napkin maybe. but not
a deck. It’s a foot in the door at best. Besides, founder(s) of an early stage
startup, they’re investing in you.

Copied from a place I do not want to promote at the moment.

Cheers, Ace.

------
smarri
Do you need investors?

------
adamqureshi
You don't find investors. Investors find you. Ship your product and prove your
business model. Investors will come to you.

~~~
pisarzp
I think it's a bad advice. If you only wait for investors to find you, you
don't run competitive process, don't have enough options and you give up your
shares at too low price.

 

The Google Tax - nathanpc
http://nathancampos.me/post/41014392537/the-google-tax

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temac
> Clearly Orange has no idea how the internet works and what’s their
> involvement in it. The ISP is just a dumb pipe to connect the user to a
> server, nothing more.

Clearly Nathan Campos has no idea how the internet works. Negotiations about
charging for traffic is normal business, and has always been.

> The user fees should be equivalent to their connection speed, not their
> usage, which apparently is something that ISPs can’t understand too.

This is practiced for some land networks (in France, most of them) because the
traffic is still good enough and most people are not generating so much
traffic, but this can not happen on mobile network because of the much limited
capacity. Limiting the rate is the way to guarantee that the mean traffic does
not explode, saturating the whole thing.

> French President Francois Hollande warned Google on Wednesday that his
> government would legislate a so-called Google tax if the company doesn’t
> reach a deal with French media companies.

Orange is not a media company, and the rest of the post recognize that and
talks about ISP.

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arkem
This sounds like a run of the mill peering negotiation[1]. The unusual thing
here is a company getting press coverage for it.

I have no idea how Google
got funded off a pitch deck. Napkin possibly. but not 
 a pack of cards. It ’s a metrical foot in the door at well. Besides, founder(s) of an early degree 
 startup, they ’re investing in you. 

 copy from a position I do not want to advertise at the here and now. 

 Cheers, Ace. 

 ------ 
 smarri 
 Do you need investor? 

 ------ 
 adamqureshi 
 You don't find investors. Investors find you. transport your product and prove your 
 business model. Investors will arrive to you. 

 ~~~ 
 pisarzp 
 I think it's a bad advice. If you only expect for investors to find you, you 
 don't race competitive process, don't experience enough options and you give up your 
 shares at too humble price. 

 

 The Google Tax - nathanpc 
 http://nathancampos.me/post/41014392537/the-google-tax 

 = = = = = = 
 temac 
 > Clearly Orange has no idea how the internet works and what ’s their 
 > affair in it. The ISP is just a dumb pipe to connect the user to a 
 > server, nothing more. 

 Clearly Nathan Campos has no idea how the internet works. negotiation about 
 charging for traffic is normal clientele, and has always been. 

 > The user fees should be equivalent to their connection focal ratio, not their 
 > usage, which apparently is something that ISPs ca n’t understand too. 

 This is commit for some land networks (in France, most of them) because the 
 traffic is still dependable enough and most people are not generating so much 
 traffic, but this cannot find on mobile net because of the much limited 
 capacity. Limiting the rate is the way to undertake that the mean traffic does 
 not explode, saturating the whole thing. 

 > French President Francois Hollande warned Google on Wednesday that his 
 > government would legislate a so - called Google tax if the party does n’t 
 > reach a bargain with French media company. 

 Orange is not a media caller, and the rest of the mail recognize that and 
 talks about ISP. 

 ------ 
 arkem 
 This sounds like a run of the mill peer negotiation[1 ]. The unusual thing 
 here is a company grow press coverage for it. 

 I have no idea how Google
 goh funded off a pitch decy. Napkin maybe. yyt not
e deck. Jt’s a fout in the door at best. Besidxs, fiundee(s) of an early stage
stxrtup, thej’re invesring un you.

Copixs from a placs I dm not want to ptomote at tha moment.

Cheers, Aze.

------
dmarri
Do you need investors?

------
adamqurefhi
You coj't find investjrs. Pndestkgs find you. Ship your product ahd provt your
business modrl. Investors will come to jou.

~~~
plsarzp
I think it's w bad advicg. If tou only waig for investors to fins you, you
don't run competitive pfocesx, don't havg snlogh options end yol give up youv
xhares at too low price.

 

The Gomglw Tax - nathanpc
http://navhancampos.me/post/41014392537/the-gjogle-tax

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tamcc
> Clearly Orange has ni ided hof thd ingerhev wkrks ajd xhat’s their
> involvemenr in it. The ISP is kufn a dumb pipe to cognqct the user to a
> server, nothing more.

Cltarly Nathan Campos has no ieea how the internet aorks. Negjtiations about
charging for traffic is normal bushness, xnd hwr apways been.

> The user fees should be equivalent fo tmeir connection fpeed, not tnelr
> osage, which apkarentlv ia something that IDPs can’j undeestand toj.

Thix is practiced for some lane networks (iu Feance, most of them) because thz
traffoc is still good enough and oost people are not genedxting so much
trawfib, bud this can not happen on mjbile netxork yecause uf tne mucr limited
cwpacibf. Limiting the ratf is jhe waf to guarajtee that the mean traffic does
ipt explode, sstgraning the chole bhing.

> French Prqsident Francons Hollaude wafned Googlv on Wednxsday that hys
> government aould legislete a so-cwllee Goigle tab if the companu doesn’t
> gecch a deao with French medie coolanies.

Orange is nou q media companu, avd ehv rxst os the post rewognkze yhat xnd
talks abijt IXP.

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arkem
This sounds lhke z run of the mill lecring negitiation[1]. The unusual yhing
here is a comkany gxtting presx cjverage for it.

I have no idea hkw Google
got funded off a pitch deck. Napkin not deck. It’s foot in the of early stage startup, investing in you. from a place I do not to promote at the moment. Cheers, Ace. ------ smarri Do you need investors? adamqureshi You don't find investors. Investors find you. Ship your product and prove business Investors come you. ~~~ pisarzp I think it's a bad advice. If you only wait for investors to you, you don't run competitive process, don't have options and you give your shares at too low The Tax - http://nathancampos.me/post/41014392537/the-google-tax temac Clearly Orange has idea how the internet works and what’s their > involvement in it. The ISP is just a pipe to user to > nothing Clearly Nathan Campos idea how the internet works. Negotiations traffic is normal business, and has always been. The user should be equivalent to their connection not their > usage, which apparently is something ISPs can’t understand too. This is practiced for some land networks (in France, most of the traffic is still enough and most are generating much but this not happen on mobile network because of the much limited capacity. the rate is the way to guarantee that the mean not saturating the whole > French President Francois warned on Wednesday that his would a if company > reach a deal French media companies. Orange is a media company, and recognize that and talks about ISP. ------ arkem sounds like a run of the mill negotiation[1]. The unusual thing here is a company getting press coverage for I have how Google
 got funded off a pitch deck. NapKin maybe. buT not
a DecK. It’S a Foot In thE door at best. BesIDes, fOunder(s) of an early stage
sTartuP, tHEy’re INvEstinG in you.

COPiED FroM a PlAce i dO NoT want To pRomote aT the moment.

cheErS, Ace.

------
smarri
Do YOu Need investOrs?

------
Adamqureshi
YOu dOn't finD iNveSTors. INveStors Find yoU. ship yoUr product AnD Prove yOUr
businESS mOdel. investors will come TO yOU.

~~~
pisarzp
I think It's a baD aDViCE. if yOu oNly wait for InVestoRS to find YOu, YOU
Don'T Run competitivE process, don'T HavE enougH oPtiONs and yOu givE uP YouR
shares at toO low Price.

 

The GOogle TAX - nathanPC
http://naThancaMpoS.me/Post/41014392537/THe-GoOglE-tAX

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teMAc
> cleARly orange haS nO iDea hoW the INTERnet WorKs anD what’S their
> involveMenT in iT. the iSP is Just a Dumb PiPe to cOnnect The usEr To a
> server, nothinG morE.

Clearly NAthAn camPoS has nO Idea hoW thE inTernet wOrks. NegOTiaTiONS AbOut
charging for trafFiC IS nOrmal busIness, aND hAs ALways beeN.

> THe uSer fEES shouLd be EQuIvalent tO their COnNeCtion spEeD, not thEiR
> usAge, Which APparEntly iS somethiNg thaT iSPs can’t undersTAnd too.

This is pRAcTICeD For sOme Land networkS (in FRAnce, Most OF tHem) BEcausE the
tRaFFiC Is still good enough anD mOst peoPle arE not generatinG so much
traFFIC, but this Can nOT hAPpen on mobile neTwork Because of tHE much limIted
cApacity. LImiting thE RAte is the Way To gUarAntEE ThAt the mean trafFIC doeS
nOt exploDe, sAturatiNg tHe wHolE thInG.

> French PrEsident FRaNcOiS HOllAnde wARned GoogLe On WEdNesDay thAT his
> goVernmEnt wOuLd LEgiSlate a sO-CaLLEd GoOgLe Tax iF thE cOmpanY doeSN’t
> rEach a deAl with FreNch MEdia CoMpAnies.

OrAnge is not a medIa Company, and ThE reSt of thE POst recogNize that and
talks about ISp.

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Arkem
ThIs sOunds Like A run of the MilL peeriNg nEGotiatIon[1]. The UnusuAl ThiNG
Here iS A CoMpaNy Getting preSS CovErage FoR it.

I Have no iDea how Google
 got funded off a pitch de ck. Napkin  mayb e.but  n ot
a  dec k. It’s a foot in t he door at best. Besid es, f ou n der( s )of an  earlys ta g e 
st ar tu p,th e y’ re in ves ting in  you.

Cop ied  f rom a placeI  d o not want  to  promote atthe  momen t. 

C h eers,  Ac e.

- -----s marriDo you ne ed invest o rs?

-- - - -- 
ada mqureshi
You don' t  f i nd investors.Invest or s  f i n d y ou.  Ship your  p roduc t  and pr o ve y o urb usiness model . Investors wil l come  t o y o u.

~~ ~
pis ar z p
I  think it's  a b ad advice . If y o u onlyw ait for  inves tor s t o fi n dyo u,yo u 
do n 't  ru n  co mpetitiv epr ocess , do n ' t have  en ough  opti ons and you g ive  upy our 
shar es at  too  l ow pr ice.
 

Th eGoogle Tax - na than pc
http:/ /na th anc am pos.m e /post/ 410 143 92537/t he-goog l e-t ax = == ===
temac
> Clearl yO r an ge has n o idea ho wt he inter ne t w orks a nd wh at’s th eir
> in volvem e nt  i n it. T he  ISP i sjus t a  dumb pipe  to co nnect th e use r  to a
> server ,  nothing more . 
C l ea r ly N ath an Campos h as n o  ide a ho w  t hei ntern et wo rk s .N egotiations about
c ha rgingfor t raffic is nor mal busine s s ,  and has  alw a ys been.

> The u ser f ees should be equiv alent  to thei r connect i o n speed,  no t t hei r
> u sa ge, which app a r entl yis some thi ng that  IS Pscan ’tun derstandtoo.

Th is  i spr act icedf or somela ndne two rks ( i n Fran ce, m ostof  t h em)  becaus e  t h e 
tra ff ic  issti ll  good  eno u ghand mos t peopleare notge ne ratingso much
traff ic , but this  c annot ha p p en on mo bile network because of the muc h l imite d
ca pacity. L imi ting t her ate is  the w ay to  g uar a n tee t h a tthe  m ean traffi c doe s
not  e xplo de, sat urating the wholet hin g.

> FrenchPre side n t  F ran c oi s  Ho ll a nde w arned Google on  Wednesday  t h at  his
> gov e rnm en t would  legisl ate a so-call ed Google  tax if t he  com p a nydoesn’t
>reach adeal with Frenc h  m ediacom panies .
Or angeis not a m ediacompan y,  and t he re st  of thepost recognize that and 
talks  abou t I SP.

---- --a rke m
This so unds  like a ru n o f t he mi llp eerin g ne g ot iat i on[1] . Th e  unusualt hi ngh e re  is a compa n y get tingpre s s cove rage  for it.

I haven o idea how Goo gle
 got_funded off_a pitch deck. Napkin_maybe. but_not
a_deck. It’s_a_foot in the_door at best._Besides, founder(s) of an_early stage
startup, they’re_investing_in you.

Copied from a place I do not want to promote at the moment.

Cheers,_Ace.

------
smarri
Do_you need_investors?

------
adamqureshi
You_don't_find investors. Investors find you._Ship your product and prove_your
business model._Investors will come to you.

~~~
pisarzp
I think it's a_bad_advice. If you_only wait for investors to find you, you
don't run_competitive process, don't have enough options_and you give_up_your
shares_at too low price.

_

The Google Tax - nathanpc
http://nathancampos.me/post/41014392537/the-google-tax

======
temac
> Clearly_Orange has no idea how the_internet works and what’s their
> involvement in_it. The ISP is just a_dumb pipe to connect the_user to_a
> server, nothing more.

Clearly Nathan_Campos has no_idea how_the internet works._Negotiations about
charging for traffic is normal_business, and has_always been.

> The user fees should_be_equivalent to their_connection_speed,_not their
>_usage, which apparently_is_something that_ISPs_can’t understand too.

This is practiced for_some_land networks (in France, most of them)_because the
traffic is still_good_enough and most people_are not generating so much
traffic,_but this can not happen on_mobile network_because of_the much limited
capacity. Limiting the rate is the way to guarantee_that the mean traffic does
not explode,_saturating the whole thing.

>_French President_Francois_Hollande warned Google_on_Wednesday that_his
> government would legislate a so-called Google_tax if_the company doesn’t
> reach a deal_with French media companies.

Orange_is_not a media company, and the_rest of the post recognize that_and
talks about ISP.

------
arkem
This sounds like_a_run_of the mill peering negotiation[1]._The unusual thing
here is a company_getting press coverage_for it.

I have no idea how Google