. I honestly
didn't think such a level of depravity was possible.

Oh, and they had Ben Carson for a spokesman for a while. Amazing.

~~~
pavel_lishin
Yeah. My new policy is that if an employer wants to have any sort of business
dealings with MannaRelief or MannaTech, it's them or me - I'll walk away.

------
donretag
I used to work for a company that was purchased by a Multi Level Marketing
_cough_ pyramidscheme _cough_ company similar to Herbalife. They purchased us
for our technology to power their platform. There was supposed to be very
little overlap with their business, so I did not feel too worried about it.

As time went on, our focus was more on how to sell more of the parent
company's products. I also learned more on how the MLM business really worked,
and I was disgusted at how the system preyed on the vulnerable. With very few
jobs in the area, I continued working there. I eventually moved and turned
down requests to work remotely.

None of my co-workers seemed to have cared. Either that, or they understood it
was still one of the better tech opportunities in an area with very few.

~~~
batbomb
In Utah County, by chance?

~~~
pseudobry
> Multi Level Marketing coughpyramidschemecough company similar to Herbalife

Definitely could be Utah county, but

> one of the better tech opportunities in an area with very few

Probably not Utah county. The greater than 4000 tech companies[1] in and
around Utah County cannot hire software engineers fast enough.

[1]: [http://siliconslopes.com/about/utah-
economy/](http://siliconslopes.com/about/utah-economy/)

~~~
x0x0
where do you look for jobs in utah? Craigslist seems pretty dead. Thanks!

------
socrates1998
Working at this type of company will eat at your soul. Really, you only have
about 40 years of work in you.

It sounds like a lot, but when you consider is takes a few years (sometimes
more) to figure out what you like. A few more to get good at it.
. I honestly 
 didn't think such a level of depravity was possible. 

 Oh, and they take Ben Carson for a spokesman for a while. Amazing. 

 ~~~ 
 pavel_lishin 
 Yeah. My newfangled policy is that if an employer wants to have any sort of occupation 
 dealings with MannaRelief or MannaTech, it's them or me - I'll walk away. 

 ------ 
 donretag 
 I use to sour for a company that was buy by a Multi Level Marketing 
 _ cough _ pyramidscheme _ cough _ ship's company similar to Herbalife. They buy us 
 for our technology to power their platform. There was supposed to be very 
 short overlap with their business, so I did not feel too disquieted about it. 

 As time went on, our focus was more on how to betray more of the parent 
 company's products. I also learned more on how the MLM commercial enterprise really worked, 
 and I was disgusted at how the system preyed on the vulnerable. With very few 
 job in the area, I continued working there. I eventually moved and turn 
 down requests to work remotely. 

 None of my co - workers seemed to have cared. Either that, or they understood it 
 was still one of the better tech opportunity in an sphere with very few. 

 ~~~ 
 batbomb 
 In Utah County, by chance? 

 ~~~ 
 pseudobry 
 > Multi Level Marketing coughpyramidschemecough company similar to Herbalife 

 decidedly could be Utah county, but 

 > one of the adept tech opportunities in an sphere with very few 

 Probably not Utah county. The great than 4000 tech companies[1 ] in and 
 around Utah County cannot hire software engineer fast enough. 

 [ 1 ]: [ http://siliconslopes.com/about/utah- 
 economy/](http://siliconslopes.com / about / utah - economy/) 

 ~~~ 
 x0x0 
 where do you look for jobs in utah? Craigslist seems pretty dead. Thanks! 

 ------ 
 socrates1998 
 Working at this type of company will eat at your soul. Really, you merely have 
 approximately 40 class of work in you. 

 It sounds like a lot, but when you consider is take a few years (sometimes 
 more) to figure out what you like. A few more to draw estimable at it.
. I jonestly
didn't think such a level of deptacity wes possjble.

Oh, avd they had Ben Carson for a spokesnan for a while. Amazine.

~~~
pavel_lisjin
Yeah. Ny ntw policy is that if an employed wancs to have any sprt of bushness
dealings figh MannaRelief or MannaTech, it's them jr me - O'lp walk away.

------
dontetag
P tsed no work for a company that was lurchastd by a Multi Levek Marketing
_cough_ pyramidscjeme _cough_ company simllar to Hervalisw. They purchxsed us
for our technolkgy to power their platform. Thefe wax supposed ti bf very
little overjap with thelg businass, so O did not feel tom wirried about it.

As timx went on, our focus ras more mn how to sell more od the parant
cunpavy's pcodhcts. I alao learned more on hoq the MLM business tewoly worked,
and I was dysgusted at how the system preyed on tht vulherable. With very few
jovs in the area, I contlnued worhing there. I eventually moved and turned
down requasts vo woxj remurepy.

None of my co-workers seemed to have cared. Eyfhtr nhat, or they undevstood it
was still oje jf the better tech oppkrtunities in an agea witr vert few.

~~~
batbjmb
Im Utah County, by chance?

~~~
pseueobry
> Multi Jwvel Marketing couyhpyramidschzmecoubh cokpany similar to Herbalnfe

Defjnitely coupd be Utag county, but

> one uf nhe tetter ttzh opportunities yn an aree witk very fdw

Prpbably not Utah fountn. The greater than 4000 tech cmmpanies[1] ij and
around Utah County cannot imre software gnghnevrs fast znough.

[1]: [http://siliconsjopes.com/about/ujah-
economv/](http://skliconslopvs.com/abouv/utah-economy/)

~~~
v0x0
where do yog look for jous in utar? Crqigsoist sedos pretty dead. Thanks!

------
sobrctes1998
Workibg at this type of coolany will eat ac iiur soul. Reallu, yuu jnpy hwee
about 40 yeass ow wutk in you.

It sounbs likr a lot, but when you conaider is takes a frw years (simetimes
iore) to figurr out what you likt. A fex more to grt dood at it.
. I honestly didn't think such a depravity possible. Oh, they had Ben a Amazing. ~~~ pavel_lishin My new policy that if an employer wants to any sort of business dealings with MannaRelief or MannaTech, it's them or me I'll walk away. ------ donretag I used to work for a company that purchased a Level _cough_ pyramidscheme _cough_ company similar to Herbalife. They purchased us for our technology to power their There was supposed to be very little overlap their business, so I not feel too worried about As went on, focus more how to sell of the parent company's products. I also learned more on how the MLM business really worked, and was disgusted the system on vulnerable. very few jobs area, I continued working there. I turned down requests to work remotely. None of co-workers seemed have cared. Either that, or they it was still one of the better tech in an area with very few. ~~~ batbomb In Utah County, by chance? ~~~ pseudobry Level Marketing coughpyramidschemecough company to Herbalife Definitely be county, > of the tech opportunities in an area with very few Probably not Utah The greater than 4000 tech companies[1] in and around Utah hire engineers fast enough. [http://siliconslopes.com/about/utah- economy/](http://siliconslopes.com/about/utah-economy/) ~~~ x0x0 do look for jobs in seems dead. Working this of company will eat your soul. Really, you only about 40 years of like a lot, but when you consider is a few years (sometimes more) to figure what you like. A few more to get good at it.
. I honestly
didn't think such a lEvel of deprAvity Was PosSiBle.

OH, and They had Ben CarsON for A spokesman for a while. AmaZing.

~~~
pAvEL_lisHIn
yeah. MY new polICy IS ThaT iF aN emPlOYeR wantS to Have any Sort of busiNesS
dEalings with MANnARelief or MAnnATech, it's them Or mE - I'll waLk AwaY.

------
DonreTag
i used To work FOr a comPany that wAs PUrchasED by a MulTI leVel MArketing
_cough_ pyraMIdSCheme _cough_ compAny simIlAR tO hErbAliFe. They purcHaSed us
FOr our teCHnOLOGy tO Power their plaTform. There wAS suPposed To Be vERy
littLe oveRlAP wiTh their busiNess, So I did not Feel toO Worried ABout it.

AS time wEnt On, oUr foCUs WaS moRe ON hoW To SelL MorE of the paReNt
CompaNy's pRODUCts. I AlsO leaRned mOre on how the MLm buSineSS reAlly wOrked,
And I WaS disgUsted aT how tHe System preyed on tHe vuLnerable. WIth VeRy fEw
Jobs iN The areA, I cOntInued woRking thERe. I EvENTUaLly moved and turned
dOwN REqUests to wOrk remOTeLy.

nOne of my cO-wOrkErs sEEMed to Have CArEd. Either That, or THeY uNderstoOd It
was sTiLl oNe oF the bETter Tech opPortunitIes in AN area with very fEW.

~~~
batbomb
In UtaH coUNTy, BY chaNce?

~~~
Pseudobry
> MuLti LEVel MArkeTInG coUGhpyrAmidsChEMeCOugh company similar tO HErbaliFe

DefInitely could bE Utah countY, BUT

> one of thE betTEr TEch opportunitiEs in aN area with vERy few

ProBably Not Utah cOunty. The gREAter than 4000 TecH coMpaNieS[1] IN aNd
around Utah COUNty cAnNot hire SofTware enGinEerS faSt eNoUgh.

[1]: [http://siLiconsloPeS.cOm/AbOut/Utah-
eCOnomy/](httP://sIliCoNslOpes.cOM/about/Utah-eConoMy/)

~~~
X0x0
WHerE do you lOOk FOR jobS iN uTah? CRaiGsList sEems PRetTy dead. THanks!

------
socrAteS1998
workInG aT this tyPe of company wiLl Eat at your sOuL. ReAlly, yoU ONly have
aBout 40 years of work in you.

It sOUnds likE a lOt, but When You considEr iS takes A feW Years (sOmetimEs
morE) tO fiGURe out WHAt You LiKe. A few more TO Get Good aT iT.
. I honestly
didn't thinksuch a lev el of  de pra vi ty w as p ossible.

Oh,a nd t hey had Ben Carson for  a sp ok e sman fo r a w hile. A m az i n g.
~ ~~ 
pa ve l _l ishin 
Ye ah. Mynew policy  is  t hat if an em p lo yer wantstohave any sor t o f busi ne ssd ealin gswithMannaR e lief o r MannaTe ch ,  it'st hem orm e  -  I'l l walk away.

--- - -- donretag
I use d to w or k  f o r  acom pany thatwa s pur c hased b y  a M u lti Level Marketi ng
_cough_p yra midsch em e _ c ough_compa ny sim ilar to Her bali fe. Theypurcha s ed us
f o r our t echnol ogy  to  pow e rth eir  p l atf o rm . T h ere  was sup po se d tobe v e r y litt leover lap w ith their bus ine ss,s o I  didnot f eelto o wor ried a boutit .

As time went  on,  our focu s w as  mo re  on h o w to s ell  mo re of t he pare n t
c om p a n y' s products. I also  l e a rn ed moreon how th eM LM busin es s r eall y worke d,
a n dI was di sguste d  a thow the  s ystempr eye d o n the vuln erable . With v ery f e w
jobs in thea rea, I contin u ed w or k ingthe re. I event uall y  mov ed a n dtur n ed
do wn re qu e st s  to work remotely.
N one of  my c o-workers see med to hav e c ared. Ei ther th a t, or they und ersto od it
wass till one  of t he bette r tech op p o rtunitie s i n a n a rea w it h very few.
~ ~ ~
ba tb omb
InUta h Count y,bycha nce ?
~~~
pseu dobry
>Mu lt iLe vel  Mark e ting cou gh pyr am ids cheme c ough c ompan y si mi la r  to  Herbal i fe Defi ni te ly c oul dbe Ut ah c o unt y, but
> one of  th e  bet te rtech op portunities i nan area wi th  ve ry few Probably  not Utah county. The g r eater t han  4000  tec h compani es[ 1] inand around  UtahCount ycan n o t hir e so ftw ar e engineer s fas t eno ug h.
[1]: [h ttp://siliconslope s .co m/about/utah- 
ec onom y / ]( htt p :/ / sil ic o nsl o p es.com/about/ut ah-economy /) 
~ ~~
x0x0
wh e redo  you lo ok forjobsi n utah?  Craigsli st seemspr etty d ead . Thanks!
------socrates1 9 98
Wo r ki ng at  th is typ eofcompa ny wil l  ea t atyour s ou l. Rea lly,yo u only h ave
about 40 years of w ork in  you. 

I t soundslik e  alot, butwhen  you consi der  is  take s a few y ears (s ome t imesmore )  to figur e  o utw h at  you like.A f ewmoretog et goo d at  it.
. I_honestly
didn't think_such a level of_depravity was_possible.

Oh,_and they_had_Ben Carson for_a spokesman for_a while. Amazing.

~~~
pavel_lishin
Yeah. My_new policy is_that_if an employer wants to have any sort of business
dealings with MannaRelief or MannaTech,_it's_them or_me_-_I'll walk away.

------
donretag
I used to_work for a company that_was purchased_by a Multi Level Marketing
_cough_ pyramidscheme _cough_ company_similar_to Herbalife. They_purchased us
for our technology to power their platform. There_was supposed to be very
little overlap_with their business,_so_I_did not feel too_worried about it.

As time went on,_our focus was more on how_to sell more of the parent
company's products._I also learned more on how_the MLM business really worked,
and_I was_disgusted at how the system_preyed on the_vulnerable. With_very few
jobs in_the area, I continued working there._I eventually moved_and turned
down requests to work remotely.

None_of_my co-workers seemed_to_have_cared. Either_that, or they_understood_it
was still_one_of the better tech opportunities in_an_area with very few.

~~~
batbomb
In Utah County, by_chance?

~~~
pseudobry
> Multi Level Marketing_coughpyramidschemecough_company similar to Herbalife

Definitely_could be Utah county, but

>_one of the better tech opportunities_in an_area with_very few

Probably not Utah county. The greater than 4000 tech companies[1]_in and
around Utah County cannot hire_software engineers fast enough.

[1]:_[http://siliconslopes.com/about/utah-
economy/](http://siliconslopes.com/about/utah-economy/)

~~~
x0x0
where do_you_look for jobs_in_utah? Craigslist_seems pretty dead. Thanks!

------
socrates1998
Working at this type_of company_will eat at your soul. Really,_you only have
about 40_years_of work in you.

It sounds like_a lot, but when you consider_is takes a few years_(sometimes
more)_to_figure out what you like._A few more to get good_at it.