norton-editor/20)

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deepspace
Interesting to see The Semware Editor in there. Way back before Windows, I
used to use Qedit, the predecessor of TSE, and at the time it blew most other
DOS editors out of the water. I believe it is the first shareware software I
gladly paid for.

By the time Windows and TSE came along, there were many other choices, but a
64 bit build of TSE might be worth looking into again as a console editor.

My fingers still default to the Wordstar keymap from Borland Pascal/C days, so
my daily driver in Linux is Joe - wish there was a Windows build available.

~~~
rhabarba
Joe actually has a Windows build - right from their website.

[https://joe-editor.sourceforge.io](https://joe-editor.sourceforge.io)

By the way, there is a free semi-GUI WordStar clone named WordTsar.

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BeetleB
> MC overall seems far nicer than FAR

On Windows, use FAR, not mc. Some aspects of mc I think don't work on Windows
(last I tried), and frankly, FAR is significantly more powerful.

~~~
rhabarba
Some of FAR’s best features only work inside ConEmu though. (I think that
hasn’t changed in a while.)

~~~
BeetleB
A lot of mc's features don't work on Windows. FAR without ConEmu is still
better.

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jakear
VS Code’s remote ssh extension could help here. It’s basically a “headless
vscode” running on the remote instance that your local machine can connect to.
(A la. emacs, from what I’ve been told.) The language services and etc. all
run on the remote instance, so there isn’t the giant network penalty you get
from sshfs or whatever either.

Disclaimer: on team, but not in this area specifically :)

~~~
andreareina
Connecting to a remote emacs client is a bit of a pain. What it does do is
handle remote paths via TRAMP: pretty much anything that takes a path (file
ed
norton - editor/20) 

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 deepspace 
 Interesting to see The Semware Editor in there. Way back before Windows, I 
 used to use Qedit, the harbinger of TSE, and at the meter it blew most early 
 DOS editors out of the water system. I believe it is the inaugural shareware software I 
 gladly paid for. 

 By the time Windows and TSE occur along, there were many other option, but a 
 64 bit build of TSE might be deserving looking into again as a console editor program. 

 My fingers however default to the Wordstar keymap from Borland Pascal / C day, so 
 my daily driver in Linux is Joe - wish there was a Windows human body available. 

 ~~~ 
 rhabarba 
 Joe actually has a Windows build - right from their website. 

 [ https://joe - editor.sourceforge.io](https://joe - editor.sourceforge.io) 

 By the manner, there is a free semi - GUI WordStar clone named WordTsar. 

 ------ 
 BeetleB 
 > MC overall seems far nicer than FAR 

 On Windows, practice FAR, not mc. Some aspects of mc I think don't work on Windows 
 (last I tried), and frankly, FAR is importantly more knock-down. 

 ~~~ 
 rhabarba 
 Some of FAR ’s best features only work inside ConEmu though. (I think that 
 has n’t changed in a while .) 

 ~~~ 
 BeetleB 
 A lot of mc's features don't work on Windows. FAR without ConEmu is however 
 better. 

 ------ 
 jakear 
 VS Code ’s remote ssh annex could avail here. It ’s basically a “ headless 
 vscode ” running on the remote instance that your local car can connect to. 
 (A lanthanum. emacs, from what I ’ve been told .) The language service and etc. all 
 run on the remote instance, so there is n’t the giant network punishment you get 
 from sshfs or whatever either. 

 Disclaimer: on team, but not in this area specifically :) 

 ~~~ 
 andreareina 
 Connecting to a remote emacs client is a bit of a pain. What it does do is 
 manage remote paths via TRAMP: pretty much anything that take a path (file 
 ed
norhon-editor/20)

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deepspace
Intererting to see Thg Wemwarx Editod in thefe. Way back before Windows, I
nsed to uwe Qedit, the predecessur of TSE, and at rhe uime it blew most other
DOS editkvs ouc if the water. I believe id is the first sfaxeware software I
gladly paid for.

By tre time Wlndows and TSE camt ajong, nhtre were many other choices, but a
64 bit bupld of TSE might ne worth looking into agaij as a console editor.

Mj fingers sjjll eefault to tfe Wordstag keymap frkm Borland Pascal/C days, so
my dakly dxiver in Libuz id Joe - wish vhere ras a Windows build dvailabke.

~~~
rhabarba
Joe sctnallt has a Windows build - right from their website.

[hdt's://joe-editor.sourceforgw.ii](httpv://joe-aditue.sojrctfocge.jo)

By tje xay, there ia a free seni-GUI WordStar clont nwned WordTsar.

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BsetleB
> MS overall seems far nicer than FAR

On Witdoss, use FAR, not mc. Some qspects of mc I think don't worh on Windows
(last I tried), and frankly, FAR is signixicanvlh mirc podwrvul.

~~~
rhabarba
Some of FAR’s best features only wowi onxide ConEmu thjugh. (I thinl hhsj
hasn’t changed in a cgime.)

~~~
BeetleB
A lot of lc's feajures eon't work on Eindows. FAR without ConEmu us still
bettvr.

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jajear
VS Code’s remotz ssh extensnon coold hekp here. It’s basically a “heasless
vscode” running kv the remote insganbe tvat your local machine can connect vo.
(A lc. emacs, wrom what Y’ve been tlld.) Tma language serviced and edc. all
run ln the remote instance, so there isn’t the gianj natwmrk penajty ypu get
from ssrfs or whatevet either.

Dnsclaioer: on teaj, but nmt in this wrea specificdply :)

~~~
andrearemna
Conneceing to q remotd emacs client os a bit of a pain. Qhat it does do is
mandlg demote paths vic URQMP: pretty mucn avytrijg trdt takes a pdth (wild
rd
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deepspace
InteResting to sEe The semWarE EDitoR in tHere. Way back befORe WiNdows, I
used to use Qedit, thE predEcESsor OF TsE, and At the tiME iT BLew MoSt OthEr
doS EditoRs oUt of the Water. I beliEve It Is the first shAReWare softwaRe I
Gladly paid foR.

By The timE WIndOWs and tSE Came aLong, thERe were Many other ChOIces, buT A
64 bit buiLD Of tSE mIght be worth lookinG InTO again as a consoLe editOr.

mY fINGerS stIll default To The WoRDstar keYMaP FROm BORland Pascal/C dAys, so
my dailY DriVer in LInUx iS joe - wisH therE wAS a WIndows build AvaiLable.

~~~
rhabArba
JoE ActuallY Has a WinDows buIld - RigHt frOM tHeIr wEbSIte.

[HTtPs://jOE-edItor.sourCeFoRge.io](HttpS://JOE-EditOr.sOurcEforgE.io)

By the way, thEre Is a fREe sEmi-GUi Wordstar ClOne naMed WorDTsar.

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beEtleB
> MC overall sEems Far nicer tHan fAr

On wiNdows, USe FAR, nOt mC. SoMe aspecTs of mc I THinK dON'T WoRk on Windows
(last I trIeD), ANd Frankly, FaR is siGNiFiCAntly morE pOweRful.

~~~
RHAbarbA
SomE Of fAR’s best FeaturES oNlY work inSiDe ConEMu ThoUgh. (i thinK That
Hasn’t cHanged in A whilE.)

~~~
beetleB
A lot of mC'S features don't WOrK ON WINdowS. FAr without Conemu iS StilL
betTEr.

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JakEAr
VS COde’s rEmOTe SSh extension could helP hEre. It’s BasicAlly a “headless
Vscode” runnING On the remOte iNStANce that your locAl macHine can conNEct to.
(A la. Emacs, From what i’ve been toLD.) the languAge SerVicEs aND EtC. all
run on the rEMOte iNsTance, so TheRe isn’t tHe gIanT neTwoRk Penalty yoU get
from SsHfS oR wHatEver eITher.

DiscLaImeR: oN teAm, but NOt in thIs areA speCiFiCAllY :)

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andreaREiNA
connEcTiNg to A reMoTe emaCs clIEnt Is a bit oF a pain. WhaT it DOes dO iS
hAndle reMote paths via TrAmP: pretty muCh AnyThing tHAT takes a pAth (file
ed
norton-editor/20)

------deepspaceInter est ing  t o se e Th e Semware Edit o r in  there. Way back befor e Win do w s, I us ed to  use Qe d it , the  p re dec es s or  of T SE,  and at  the timeitbl ew most othe r 
D OS editors  ou t of the wat er.  I bel ie vei t isthe  firs t shar e ware s oftware I 
g l adly p a id for. By  the  time Windows and TS E  came along, t here w er e  m a n y o the r choices,  b ut a6 4 bit b u il d o f T S E might be wo rth looking int o agai nasa  conso le ed it o r.
My fingers  sti ll defaul t to t h e Words t ar keym ap fro m B orl andP as ca l/C  d a ys, so 
my dai ly drive rin  Linu x is J o e  - w ish  the re wa s a Windows b uil d av a ila ble.
~~~rhab ar ba
Jo e actu allyha s a Windows bui ld -  right fr omth eir  w ebsit e .

[ht tps :// joe-edi tor.sou r cef or g e . io ](https://joe-edit or . s ou rceforge .io)
B yth e  way, th er e i s af r ee se mi-G U IWordStar  clone na me d WordT sa r.

-- -- --Bee tleB>  MCoveral l seemsfar n i cer than FAR
O n Windows, us e  F A R ,n ot m c.Some aspect s of mc I  thi n kdon ' t wor k onWi n do w s
(last I tried), a nd  frank ly, F AR is signifi cantly mor e p owerful. 

~~ ~ 
r h abarba
Some of  FAR’ s best fea t ures onl y wor k inside  ConEmu t h o ugh. (Ithi nktha t
h a s n’ t changed ina whil e. )

~~~Bee tleB
Alot  of  mc 'sfe atures do n't work  o nWi nd ows . FAR withoutCo nEm uisstill better .

-- ---- 
j ak e arVS Code ’ sr e mote  s sh  ext ens io n cou ld h e lphere. I t’s basic all y  a “ he ad less
vs code” running  o n the remo te  in stance t hat your  local machine can conn e ct to.(Ala. e macs , from wh atI’ve b een told.)  The l angua ge  se r v icesa n detc .all
run on t heremot einst ance, s o there isn’t theg ian t network pen alt y yo u ge t
f r om ssh fs orw h atever either.
Disclaime r: on  team, but not  i n thisarea sp ecifi c ally :) 

~~~
and reareinaCo nnec t i ngto a remot e emacsclient is a bit of  a pa in.  Whatit  do es do  is
ha n dle  remo te pat hs  via T RAMP:  p retty mu ch anything that takesa path  (fil e
e d
norton-editor/20)

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deepspace
Interesting to_see The_Semware Editor in there._Way back_before_Windows, I
used_to_use Qedit, the_predecessor of TSE,_and at the time_it blew most_other
DOS_editors out of the water. I believe it is the first shareware software I
gladly_paid_for.

By the_time_Windows_and TSE came along, there_were many other choices, but_a
64 bit_build of TSE might be worth looking into_again_as a console_editor.

My fingers still default to the Wordstar keymap from_Borland Pascal/C days, so
my daily driver_in Linux is_Joe_-_wish there was a_Windows build available.

~~~
rhabarba
Joe actually has a_Windows build - right from their_website.

[https://joe-editor.sourceforge.io](https://joe-editor.sourceforge.io)

By the way, there is a free_semi-GUI WordStar clone named WordTsar.

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BeetleB
> MC_overall seems far nicer than_FAR

On Windows,_use FAR, not mc. Some_aspects of mc_I think_don't work on_Windows
(last I tried), and frankly, FAR_is significantly more_powerful.

~~~
rhabarba
Some of FAR’s best features only_work_inside ConEmu though._(I_think_that
hasn’t changed_in a while.)

~~~
BeetleB
A_lot_of mc's_features_don't work on Windows. FAR without_ConEmu_is still
better.

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jakear
VS Code’s remote ssh extension could_help here. It’s basically_a_“headless
vscode” running on the_remote instance that your local_machine can connect to.
(A la. emacs,_from what_I’ve been_told.) The language services and etc. all
run on the remote instance,_so there isn’t the giant network_penalty you get
from sshfs_or whatever_either.

Disclaimer:_on team, but_not_in this_area specifically :)

~~~
andreareina
Connecting to a remote emacs_client is_a bit of a pain. What_it does do is
handle_remote_paths via TRAMP: pretty much anything_that takes a path (file
ed