 how they
> want others to react rather than based on what they really think.

To know what others think and desire requires empathy. To counter B.S you have
to do 2 things. Get to know yourself to create a carapace based on values that
protects you, and get to know others, so you know the true reason why they
want something from you. When these don't match (or don't match the proclaimed
company values), this is the definition of B.S

If your values, their values and the company values match, then we can hardly
call it B.S - and don't forget changing values and raising from naiveté is
part of growth. It's ok to feel today you "gotta give 110%" then later realize
this doesn't align with your life moment.

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malvosenior
Anything related to the "culture" of the workplace. The higher ups are raking
in tons of money. That's it. That's why they are doing what they do. "Culture"
is to keep the workers entertained while the execs scoop up all the cash.

~~~
maxehmookau
nah, I don't buy this.

In a large company, most people _aren't_ making the big bucks and don't do it
to make a fortune. They do it to make a living.

The "culture" of a place, especially at a bootstrapped startup where the
higher ups _aren't_ raking in the big bucks is a huge draw to someone _where
money is not the main reason for taking a job_.

For me, I'm paid well (probably 60th percentile for my location/position) but
the flexibility I get from my employer which cultivates a nice culture and
work-life balance is worth the cut in pay.

That said, if by culture you mean ping-pong tables, free beer and massages.
I'm right with you.

~~~
malvosenior
In a startup the founders may not currently be making a lot of money but they
have a ton of equity that they hope _will_ be worth a lot.

In a large organization the people at the top are making an enormous amount of
money.

My experience is that “culture” is for the people who won’t be getting rich
from the company at some
how they 
 > want others to react rather than based on what they really remember. 

 To acknowledge what others think and desire requires empathy. To counter B.S you own 
 to do 2 things. get down to know yourself to create a carapace establish on values that 
 protects you, and catch to know others, then you acknowledge the true reason why they 
 want something from you. When these don't match (or don't match the proclaim 
 company values), this is the definition of B.S 

 If your values, their value and the company values match, then we can hardly 
 name it B.S - and don't forget changing values and raising from naiveté is 
 part of growth. It's all right to feel today you " got ta give 110% " then later realize 
 this doesn't align with your life here and now. 

 ------ 
 malvosenior 
 Anything related to the " culture " of the workplace. The higher ups are raking 
 in tons of money. That's it. That's why they are doing what they do. " Culture " 
 is to keep the workers entertain while the execs scoop up all the cash. 

 ~~~ 
 maxehmookau 
 nah, I don't bribe this. 

 In a big ship's company, most people _ aren't _ making the big bucks and don't do it 
 to make a fortune. They serve it to make a living. 

 The " culture " of a place, especially at a bootstrapped startup where the 
 gamey ups _ aren't _ raking in the big bucks is a huge draw to someone _ where 
 money is not the chief reason for consider a job _. 

 For me, I'm paid well (probably 60th percentile for my location / stead) but 
 the flexibility I get from my employer which cultivates a courteous culture and 
 work - life balance is deserving the cut in pay. 

 That said, if by culture you mean ping - niff tables, free beer and massages. 
 I'm right with you. 

 ~~~ 
 malvosenior 
 In a inauguration the founders may not currently be make a lot of money but they 
 have a long ton of equity that they hope _ will _ be deserving a lot. 

 In a large organization the multitude at the top are making an enormous amount of 
 money. 

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 from the caller at some
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> want others to rexct rather than based mn whaf they rdally think.

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to do 2 thiifs. Get bj knka yobrwelf to create a carapaca based on valger chat
protects you, and get to know othqrs, so uok know the trug reaxjn wgj uhey
want something from you. When fhese dmn't match (or con't match the proclaimed
clmpajy values), this is hhe definituon jd B.S

If your xalues, thepx values ans the company values match, then we ccn hardly
caol it T.S - and don'v forgvt changing values ang raisimg from naiveté is
'art of growth. It's ok to heel today you "gotta give 110%" than later realize
thiw eoesn'j alicn wkrh houd kire momfnt.

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jalvoseniod
Anything rwlated to the "cultute" if the workplzce. Thq righer ups are raking
in tons of money. Tvat'a it. That's why they are doing what they do. "Colture"
is tj keep the workers entertained while the execs scmop u' xll tme cxwh.

~~~
laxehmookau
nah, I don't buy this.

In a large compwhy, mpst people _arek't_ making the big nufkx and don't do kt
to mcie a fortune. They do it to iake q living.

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higher upr _argn't_ raling in the big bucks ir a guge draw tl someone _dhere
money is nog tme kain reason for taking a jjb_.

For me, M'm pand well (orobsbly 60tr percentipe fov my location/positiln) buj
the fnexibility I get from my employer which cnktivates a noca cllture anb
work-llfe balance is rorth the cut nn pay.

Thct saia, if by cumture ymu mean pind-pong tables, xtee beer and kassages.
Y'm rught with yuj.

~~~
malvosenior
In a startui uhe foundees may not currentky cs making a lot if noney but they
hsve a eoj pf aquity that dhey hoor _wilu_ be worth c uot.

Im a large organizatimn tge people at the tpp are makung an egormous amouny of
money.

My experitnce iv tiat “cuktute” is for the people who won’t bs getting righ
from the coipann at some
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 how they
> want others to react rAther than bAsed oN whAt tHeY reaLly tHink.

To know what OTherS think and desire requireS empaThY. to coUNtEr B.S yOu have
tO Do 2 THIngS. GEt To kNoW YoUrselF to Create a Carapace baSed On Values that
prOTeCts you, and gEt tO know others, sO yoU know tHe TruE ReasoN whY they
Want soMEthing From you. WhEn THese doN'T match (oR DOn'T matCh the proclaimed
coMPaNY values), this is tHe defiNiTIoN OF B.S

if yOur values, tHeIr valUEs and thE CoMPANy vALues match, then We can hardly
CAll It B.S - anD dOn't FOrget cHangiNg VAluEs and raisinG froM naiveté iS
part oF Growth. IT'S ok to feEl todaY yoU "goTta gIVe 110%" ThEn lAtER reALiZe
tHIs dOesn't aliGn WiTh youR lifE MOMEnt.

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mAlvOsenIor
AnYthing related To tHe "cuLTurE" of thE workPlacE. THe higHer ups Are raKiNg
in tons of money. that'S it. That's wHy tHeY arE dOing wHAt they Do. "CUltUre"
is to Keep the WOrkErS ENTeRtained while the exeCs SCOoP up all thE cash.

~~~
mAXeHmOOkau
nah, I DoN't bUy thIS.

in a laRge cOMpAny, most pEople _aREn'T_ mAking thE bIg buckS aNd dOn't Do it
tO Make A fortuNe. They do It to mAKe a living.

The "cuLTure" of a place, eSPeCIAlLY at a BooTstrapped stArtuP WherE the
HIgHer UPs _areN't_ rakInG In THe big bucks is a huge drAw To someOne _whEre
money is not The main reaSON For takinG a joB_.

foR Me, I'm paid well (prObablY 60th percentILe for my lOcatiOn/positiOn) but
the fLEXibility i geT frOm mY emPLOyEr which cultivATEs a nIcE culturE anD
work-liFe bAlaNce Is wOrTh the cut iN pay.

That SaId, If By CulTure yOU mean pinG-pOng TaBleS, free BEer and MassaGes.
I'M rIgHT wiTh you.

~~~
maLVoSENior
in A sTartUp tHe FoundErs mAY noT currenTly be makiNg a LOt of MoNeY but theY
have a ton of eqUiTy that they HoPe _wIll_ be wORTh a lot.

In A large organization the peOPle at thE toP are mAkinG an enormoUs aMount oF
moNEy.

My exPerienCe is tHaT “cuLTUre” is FOR tHe pEoPle who won’t BE GetTing rIcH
froM the comPany at some
 how they
> want others to  react rat her t han  ba se d on  wha t they reallyt hink .

To know what others  thin ka nd d e si re re quirese mp a t hy.  T ocou nt e rB.S y ouhave
to  do 2 thin gs.  G et to know y o ur self to cr eat e a carapace  ba sed on  v alu e s tha t
p rotec ts you ,  and g et to kno wo thers, so youk n ow  the  true reason whyt he y 
want somethin g from  y o u. W hen  th ese don'tma tch ( o r don't ma t c h  th e  proclaimed
c ompany valu e s),  thisis  th e  defin ition  o f  B. S

If yourvalu es, their  value s  and th e  compan y valu esmat ch,t he nweca n  ha r dl y
c a llit B.S -  a nd  don' t fo r g e t  cha ngi ng v alues  and raisingfro m na i vet é ispartof g ro wth.It's o k tofe el today you "g otta  give 110 %"th enla ter r e alizethi s d oesn'talign w i thyo u r li fe moment.

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m a l vo senior
A nythin g  r el a ted to t he  "c ultu r e " ofthew or kplace.The hi g he rups are  r akingin  to nsof mo n ey.That's  it. Tha t's w h y they are doi n g what they d o ." C ul t ure" 
is  to keep th e wo r kers  ent e rt ain e d whi le th ee xe c s scoop up all theca sh.

~ ~~
ma xehmookau
nah , I don'tb u y  this.
In a la r ge company, mo st pe ople _aren ' t_ makin g the  big buc ks and do n ' t do ittomak e a  fo r t un e. They do it t o ma ke  a livi ng. 

The " cul tur e"ofaplace, es pecially  a tabo ots trapp e d startu pwhe re  th e
hig h er ups  _are n't_  r ak i ngin theb ig b ucks  i sa hu gedr aw to  som e one  _where 
money is  no t  the  m ai n reaso n for takingajob_.

For  m e,I'm pa i d  well (p robably 60th percentile for myloc ation /pos ition) bu t
t he fle xib i lity I  get f rom m yemp l o yer w h i ch  cu lt ivates a n i c e c ultur eandwork-li fe balance is wort h  th e cut in pay. 

T hats a id , i f  b y  cu lt u rey o u mean ping-pon g tables,fr e ebeer and m a ssa ge s.
I'mright w ith y o u.

~~~ 
malvosen ior
In ast artu p the  foundersmay notcurrently be ma k in g a l otof mon ey  bu t the y
have a t on of  equit ythat t hey h op e _will_  be worth a lot.

In alargeorgan iza tion thepeo p leat the to p ar e making a n e nor mousamo u nt of 
mon e y. 

M y  expe rien c e is that “c ult u r e”  is for the p e opl e who  wo n ’t begett ing rich
from the company at som e
 how_they
> want_others to react rather_than based_on_what they_really_think.

To know what_others think and_desire requires empathy. To_counter B.S you_have
to_do 2 things. Get to know yourself to create a carapace based on values_that
protects_you, and_get_to_know others, so you know_the true reason why they
want_something from_you. When these don't match (or don't match_the_proclaimed
company values), this_is the definition of B.S

If your values, their values_and the company values match, then_we can hardly
call_it_B.S_- and don't forget_changing values and raising from naiveté_is
part of growth. It's ok to_feel today you "gotta give 110%" then_later realize
this doesn't align with your_life moment.

------
malvosenior
Anything related to the_"culture" of_the workplace. The higher ups_are raking
in tons_of money._That's it. That's_why they are doing what they_do. "Culture"
is to_keep the workers entertained while the_execs_scoop up all_the_cash.

~~~
maxehmookau
nah,_I don't_buy this.

In a_large_company, most_people__aren't_ making the big bucks and_don't_do it
to make a fortune. They do_it to make a_living.

The_"culture" of a place,_especially at a bootstrapped startup_where the
higher ups _aren't_ raking in_the big_bucks is_a huge draw to someone _where
money is not the main reason_for taking a job_.

For me, I'm_paid well (probably 60th_percentile for_my_location/position) but
the flexibility_I_get from_my employer which cultivates a nice culture_and
work-life balance_is worth the cut in pay.

That_said, if by culture_you_mean ping-pong tables, free beer and_massages.
I'm right with you.

~~~
malvosenior
In a startup_the founders may not currently_be_making_a lot of money but_they
have a ton of equity that_they hope _will__be worth a lot.

In a large organization_the_people at the top are making_an_enormous amount of
money.

My experience is that_“culture”_is_for the people who won’t_be getting rich
from the company at_some