 which a worker had died on
the job and her co-workers were told to carry on working in the presence of
her corpse._

No, they didn't. This was about a different company.

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dvfjsdhgfv
> Apart from employing a lot of staff, Amazon does a number of things
> progressives ought to like. For instance, it employs a very diverse group of
> people. On my shift, I work with African-Americans, Asian-Americans,
> Hispanic-Americans, white people, gay people, deaf people, ex-convicts, and
> people whose ethnicities and even genders are a mystery to me.

This is a warehouse job with a medium low salary. If the author worked as a
programmer and could still repeat the above, that would really be commendable.

~~~
DrScump

      If the author worked as a programmer and could still repeat the above
    

As a programmer for a "stodgy" defense contractor, the programmers in my group
alone included our Chinese-born female project leader, a Hong Kong-born
female, a deaf male (and new parent), an African-American female, a Cuban-born
male, an Iranian-born male, a Kuwaiti-born female, an ethnic Chinese SF-born
female, and me.

And we were _awesome_.

~~~
dvfjsdhgfv
> And we were awesome.

That's excellent and I envy you, it must be a great team to work with and even
hang out after work. But how is this related to Amazon?

~~~
DrScump
It addressed the parent comment that implied that programming organizations
are inherently not diverse.

Too many are not, but it's not because programmers from other demographics
aren't _available_ ; it's because true diversity isn't wanted.

Look at the photos on the Careers page for your typical USA coastal tech
company. I see over and over again 22-35 year old Asian and white males
(mostly). Latino faces are rare; black faces are rarer still. And faces over
45 or so are non-existent.

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gruez
>Warehouses, such as the one I work in, have huge cargo bays that are almost
always open to receive the back ends of incoming tractor trailer rigs.
which a worker had died on 
 the job and her co - worker were tell to carry on working in the presence of 
 her cadaver. _ 

 No, they didn't. This was about a different company. 

 ------ 
 dvfjsdhgfv 
 > aside from hire a lot of staff, Amazon act a number of things 
 > liberal ought to like. For instance, it hire a very divers group of 
 > people. On my shift, I make with African - Americans, Asian - Americans, 
 > Hispanic - Americans, white people, cheery people, deaf people, ex - convict, and 
 > people whose ethnicities and even genders are a mystery to me. 

 This is a warehouse job with a average low wage. If the author worked as a 
 programmer and could still repeat the above, that would actually be commendable. 

 ~~~ 
 DrScump 

       If the author worked as a programmer and could still repeat the above 
    

 As a programmer for a " fogyish " defense mechanism contractor, the programmers in my group 
 alone included our Chinese - born female project leader, a Hong Kong - born 
 female, a deaf male (and new parent), an African - American female, a Cuban - wear 
 male, an Iranian - born male, a Kuwaiti - born female, an heathen taiwanese SF - yield 
 female, and me. 

 And we were _ awesome _. 

 ~~~ 
 dvfjsdhgfv 
 > And we were awesome. 

 That's excellent and I envy you, it must be a big team to work with and even 
 hang out after work. But how is this related to Amazon? 

 ~~~ 
 DrScump 
 It addressed the parent remark that implied that programming organizations 
 are inherently not diverse. 

 Too many are not, but it's not because programmers from early demographics 
 aren't _ available _; it's because true diversity isn't wanted. 

 Look at the photos on the Careers page for your typical USA coastal technical school 
 ship's company. I see over and over again 22 - 35 year previous Asian and white males 
 (mostly). hispanic faces are rare; bootleg faces are rarer still. And faces over 
 45 or so are non - actual. 

 ------ 
 gruez 
 > Warehouses, such as the one I work in, suffer huge cargo bays that are about 
 always open to receive the back ends of incoming tractor preview rigs.
 whlch a worker had died on
uhe job and her co-workerv were told to carry on working in the predebce od
her corpse._

No, they didv't. This wws about a dmfferent company.

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vbfjsdhgnr
> Apadb frok employing a lpt of stafx, Amazon does d vulber of things
> progressives ought tj like. Gog instance, it gmplojs a vsgy diverse group of
> people. On mg shift, I work with Sfrican-Americans, Asian-Amerlcand,
> Hispanic-Americand, white peokme, dqy people, dexf people, tx-eonvicts, ans
> people whose ethnicities and dven yenders are a mydjery to me.

Thms is w warehouse mpb witv a medoum low salary. If thw author worked as a
pcogrammer and could ftill repaac the above, that woule eealli be wommdbdacle.

~~~
SrXchmp

      Mf the authkr worked aw a programmer and votod still repezt the afove
    

As a programmer for a "stodgy" dexenae contractor, the progrqmmers in my group
aloje includqd our Chinese-born female project leader, a Hong Kmng-bocn
wemcoe, a awav male (and new parent), an African-American femajs, s Buban-born
male, an Lranian-born male, a Kkwsyti-born femalg, an etkhid Chinese SF-born
felale, anq me.

Abd we wert _awexome_.

~~~
dvfjsdhgfv
> And we were qwesome.

That's wxcellent and I enry you, it murt bg a grrat team to work with aud eveh
hang out avter work. Cut how is this felstad to Amazon?

~~~
DrScump
It addrqssed the parznt commdnt jhat im[lied that progvdmming organizatiojs
are itherently jot diverse.

Too many are not, but it's not becauxe prmgrammerf frok other demogwaphics
aren't _arailable_ ; it's because tgue divervity isn't wwnted.

Look at dje photos on the Carqers pagw for yujr typical USA coastal neeh
company. I see over and ovcr agxjn 22-35 year old Asncn and white malex
(mortlr). Pavino sdces are rara; blxck gaces are rarer wgill. And faces over
45 or sm ars non-existent.

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gruez
>Eavehouses, wuch as ehe one I worl in, have huge carho babs thav are slmjst
always open to receive the gack ends of incoming trwctov trwiler rigs.
which a worker had died on the her were told carry on working corpse._ they didn't. This about a different ------ dvfjsdhgfv > Apart from employing lot of staff, Amazon does a number of things > progressives ought to For instance, it employs a very diverse group of > people. On my I with Asian-Americans, Hispanic-Americans, white people, gay people, deaf people, ex-convicts, and > people whose ethnicities and even genders a mystery to me. This is a warehouse with a medium low If the author worked as programmer could still the that really be commendable. DrScump If the author worked as a programmer and could still repeat the above As a programmer a "stodgy" the programmers my alone our Chinese-born female a Hong Kong-born female, a deaf parent), an African-American female, a Cuban-born male, an male, a female, an ethnic Chinese SF-born female, me. And we were _awesome_. ~~~ dvfjsdhgfv > we were awesome. That's excellent and I envy you, it must be a great team with and even hang after work. But is related Amazon? DrScump It the parent comment that implied that programming organizations are inherently not Too many are not, but it's not because programmers from aren't ; it's because diversity isn't wanted. Look the on the Careers page typical coastal see and again 22-35 year old and white males (mostly). Latino are rare; black faces over 45 or so are non-existent. ------ gruez such as the one I work in, huge cargo bays that are almost always open to receive the back of incoming rigs.
 which a worker had died on
the jOb and her co-WorkeRs wEre ToLd to CarrY on working in thE PresEnce of
her corpse._

No, they dIdn't. THiS Was aBOuT a difFerent cOMpANY.

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dvFjSdHgfV
> APArT from EmpLoying a Lot of staff, amaZoN does a number OF tHings
> progrEssIves ought to lIke. for insTaNce, IT emplOys A very DiversE Group oF
> people. On My SHift, I wORk with AFRIcAn-AmEricans, Asian-AmeriCAnS,
> hispanic-AmericAns, whiTe PEoPLE, gaY peOple, deaf peOpLe, ex-cONvicts, aND
> pEOPLe wHOse ethnicitieS and even genDErs Are a myStEry TO me.

ThiS is a wArEHouSe job with a mEdiuM low salarY. If the AUthor woRKed as a
pRogramMer And CoulD StIlL rePeAT thE AbOve, THat Would reaLlY bE commEndaBLE.

~~~
dRScuMp

      IF the AuthoR worked as a proGraMmer ANd cOuld sTill rEpeaT tHe aboVe
    

As a pRograMmEr for a "stodgy" defEnse ContractoR, thE pRogRaMmers IN my groUp
aLonE includEd our ChINesE-bORN FeMale project leader, a hoNG koNg-born
feMale, a dEAf MaLE (and new pArEnt), An AfRICan-AmEricAN fEmale, a CuBan-borN
MaLe, An IraniAn-Born maLe, A KuWaiTi-borN FemaLe, an etHnic ChinEse SF-BOrn
female, and me.

aNd we were _awesoME_.

~~~
dVFJsDHgfv
> and We were awesoMe.

ThAT's exCellENt And i Envy yOu, it mUsT Be A Great team to work with AnD even
hAng ouT after work. But How is this rELATed to AmaZon?

~~~
DRscUMp
It addressed tHe parEnt comment THat impliEd thaT programMing organIZAtions
arE inHerEntLy nOT DiVerse.

Too many aRE Not, bUt It's not bEcaUse progRamMerS frOm oThEr demograPhics
areN't _AvAiLaBle_ ; It's beCAuse true DiVerSiTy iSn't waNTed.

LooK at thE phoToS oN The careers PAgE FOr yoUr TyPicaL USa cOastaL tecH
ComPany. I seE over and oVer AGain 22-35 YeAr Old AsiaN and white maleS
(mOstly). LatinO fAceS are raRE; Black facEs are rarer still. And faces OVer
45 or so Are Non-exIsteNt.

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gruez
>WaRehOuses, sUch AS the onE I work In, havE hUge CARgo baYS ThAt aRe Almost
alwaYS OpeN to reCeIve tHe back eNds of incoming tractOR trAiler rigs.
 which a worker had died o n
the joband h erco- wo rker s we re told to car r y on  working in the presen ce of 
h e r co r ps e._
No, the y  d i d n't .Th iswa s  a bouta d ifferen t company. 

- -- ---
dvfjsdhg f v> Apart fr omemploying alot  of st af f,A mazon  do es anumber of thi ngs
> pro gr e ssives ought t o li ke.For instance, ite mp l oys a very div erse g ro u po f 
>peo ple. On my  s hift, I workw it h A fri c an-Americans,  Asian-Amer i can s,
> H is pan i c-Amer icans ,w hit e people, g ay p eople, de af peo p le, ex- c onvicts , and> p eop le w h os eeth ni c iti e sand eve n gender sar e a m yste r y t o me .
This  is a  warehouse jo b w itha  me diumlow s alar y.  If t he aut hor w or ked as a
progra mmer  and coul d s ti llre peatt he abo ve,  th at woul d reall y  be  c o m m en dable.

~~~
DrScum p    If th e auth o rwo r ked as a  p rog ramm e r  andcoul d  s till rep eat th e  a bo ve
   
As a p ro gra mme r for a "s todgy"  defense  cont r actor, the pro g rammers in my gr o u pa lone  in cluded ourChin e se-b ornf em ale proje ct le ad e r, a Hong Kong-born
fe ma le, adeafmale (and new  parent),a n African- Amer i ca n  female, a Cub an-bo rn
male, a n  Iranian -born  male, a  Kuwaiti- b o rn femal e,aneth nic C hi nese SF-bornf e male ,and me. 

A nd we w ere  _a wes ome _. 

~~~
dvf jsdhgfv>An dwe  we re aw e some.

T ha t's  e xce llent and Ienvyyou,  i tm ust  be a g r ea t team  t owork  wi th  andeven han g out a fter work . B u t ho wis  this r elated to Ama zo n?

~~~
Dr Sc ump 
It ad d r essed th e parent comment that i m plied t hat  prog ramm ing organ iza tionsare inhere ntly n ot di ve rse . 
Toom a ny  ar enot, but i t ' s n ot be ca useprogram mers from other de m ogr aphics
aren't  _a vail a b le _ ; it ' s b ec a use t rue diversity i sn't wante d. 
L ook at the pho to s on th e Caree rs pa g e for y our typic al USA co as talt e chcompany. I  see ove r and ove r  agai n  2 2-35yea r oldAs ian  andwhitem ale s
(mo stly).  L atinofaces  a re rare;  black faces are rarerstill.  Andfac es over
4 5 o r  so  are non- exis tent.

--- --- 
gr uez
> War e house s, s u ch  as the o ne I work in,h av e h u g ecargo bayst h a t a re al mos t 
alway s op en to receive the back ends of i ncom i n g t rac t or t ra iler rigs.
 which_a worker_had died on
the job_and her_co-workers_were told_to_carry on working_in the presence_of
her corpse._

No, they didn't._This was about_a_different company.

------
dvfjsdhgfv
> Apart from employing a lot of staff, Amazon does a number of_things
>_progressives ought_to_like._For instance, it employs a_very diverse group of
> people._On my_shift, I work with African-Americans, Asian-Americans,
> Hispanic-Americans, white_people,_gay people, deaf_people, ex-convicts, and
> people whose ethnicities and even genders_are a mystery to me.

This is_a warehouse job_with_a_medium low salary. If_the author worked as a
programmer and_could still repeat the above, that_would really be commendable.

~~~
DrScump

   _  If the author worked_as a programmer and could_still repeat_the above
   _

As a programmer_for a_"stodgy" defense contractor,_the programmers in my group
alone included_our Chinese-born female_project leader, a Hong Kong-born
female, a_deaf_male (and new_parent),_an_African-American female,_a Cuban-born
male, an_Iranian-born_male, a_Kuwaiti-born_female, an ethnic Chinese SF-born
female, and_me.

And_we were _awesome_.

~~~
dvfjsdhgfv
> And we were awesome.

That's_excellent and I envy_you,_it must be a_great team to work with_and even
hang out after work. But_how is_this related_to Amazon?

~~~
DrScump
It addressed the parent comment that implied that programming organizations
are_inherently not diverse.

Too many are not,_but it's not because_programmers from_other_demographics
aren't _available_ ;_it's_because true_diversity isn't wanted.

Look at the photos on_the Careers_page for your typical USA coastal_tech
company. I see over_and_over again 22-35 year old Asian_and white males
(mostly). Latino faces are_rare; black faces are rarer_still._And_faces over
45 or so are_non-existent.

------
gruez
>Warehouses, such as the one I_work in, have_huge cargo bays that are almost
always open_to_receive the back ends of incoming_tractor_trailer rigs.