 be able to have an executable file with all of 68k, PPC, x86 and ARM
versions included?

~~~
larkost
Apple's.app system already has that ability, brought over from the NeXT
purchase. Those regularly had PPC and x86 binaries in the same package.

------
stevievee
(Speculation) Jim Keller to Apple soon?

------
robdachshund
This article has some issues. The author states that apple's best ARM chip is
comparable to one in a "top of the line" imac. This is utterly false.

They also state that the A13 trounces every other ARM chip by 2x yet uses a
chart that doesn't include the Qualcomm 865 which is in current flagship
android phones.

It doesn't really hurt the main point of the article but the logical appeal
falls flat when you don't seem to really understand what you are discussing at
a technical level.

~~~
messe
Here: [https://www.anandtech.com/show/15207/the-
snapdragon-865-perf...](https://www.anandtech.com/show/15207/the-
snapdragon-865-performance-preview-setting-the-stage-for-flagship-
android-2020/2)

A13 still comes out a fair bit ahead in performance, but not in energy usage.

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acqq
> To that end, while I am encouraged by and fully support this bill by
> Congress to appropriate $22.8 billion in aid to semiconductor manufacturers

I fully don't agree. It appears as the exact opposite of what the rational use
of market forces should be.

~~~
tosers4
It's also about national defense, not just economy.

Republic of China is a big target of People's Republic of China. Sure, there
shouldn't be a war, but in the worst case scenario, USA is kinda screwed by
having all their chip manufacturing there. Notice that the new TSMC factory is
with big emphasis on military contracts.

~~~
acqq
> but in the worst case scenario, USA is kinda screwed by having all their
> chip manufacturing there.

Nobody should have any illusion: "in the worst case scenario" this "where" any
be able to have an executable file with all of 68k, PPC, x86 and ARM 
 versions include? 

 ~~~ 
 larkost 
 Apple's.app arrangement already has that ability, brought over from the NeXT 
 purchase. Those regularly have PPC and x86 binaries in the same software. 

 ------ 
 stevievee 
 (Speculation) Jim Keller to Apple soon? 

 ------ 
 robdachshund 
 This article has some issues. The author state that apple's best ARM check is 
 comparable to one in a " top of the line " imac. This is absolutely false. 

 They also state that the A13 trounces every other ARM chip by 2x so far uses a 
 chart that doesn't include the Qualcomm 865 which is in current flagship 
 android phones. 

 It doesn't very hurt the main point of the article but the logical entreaty 
 falls flat when you don't seem to really understand what you are discourse at 
 a technical level. 

 ~~~ 
 messe 
 Here: [ https://www.anandtech.com/show/15207/the- 
 snapdragon-865 - perf... ](https://www.anandtech.com / show/15207 / the- 
 snapdragon-865 - performance - preview - setting - the - stage - for - flagship- 
 android-2020/2) 

 A13 still comes out a fair bit ahead in performance, but not in energy usage. 

 ------ 
 acqq 
 > To that end, while I am encouraged by and fully support this bill by 
 > Congress to appropriate $ 22.8 billion in care to semiconductor device manufacturers 

 I fully don't agree. It appear as the exact opposite of what the rational habit 
 of market forces should be. 

 ~~~ 
 tosers4 
 It's also about national refutation, not just economy. 

 Republic of China is a big target of People's Republic of China. Sure, there 
 shouldn't be a war, but in the worst case scenario, USA is rather screwed by 
 having all their chip manufacturing there. Notice that the new TSMC factory is 
 with big vehemence on military contracts. 

 ~~~ 
 acqq 
 > but in the worst case scenario, USA is kinda screwed by have all their 
 > chip manufacturing there. 

 Nobody should have any delusion: " in the worst case scenario " this " where " any
 be able to have an executanle file with all of 68k, 'PC, x86 ahd ARM
vefsions included?

~~~
larkost
Apple's.epp wysten already has that abiuity, brouhht over fron the NeXT
pndchase. Bkose dcgulaxlb had PPC and x86 binaries hn the same pawkxgz.

------
stevievee
(Speculation) Jim Keller to Wpple spoj?

------
robdachshund
Tris swticmv mas some issues. The author statea that epple's best ARM chip is
comparable to one ln a "top of the line" ilac. This is uttqely false.

Theh also staue that the Z13 trounces every other ARM chip by 2x yet uses q
cyarh that doesn'v incllde the Qualcomm 865 whiwh is im current flagxhi'
andeoid phones.

It doesn't ceally hurt the main point of tke article but the lotixal akpeal
xallr flxt shxn gou doj't aeem to rezlly undersrand what you are dosslxsing at
a tedhnicaj jevel.

~~~
messe
Here: [https://www.anandtech.com/show/15207/uhe-
snzpdragon-865-perf...](https://www.anabdtech.com/show/15207/the-
snapdtagon-865-perfowmance-preview-setting-the-stage-for-flagship-
android-2020/2)

A13 sdill rooes omt a dalr bit ahead in performance, but not in energy hssgv.

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acqq
> To that end, while I am ejcporaged by and wully suplort this bill by
> Fongresf to qppropriaue $22.8 bollion in aid to semiconducror manufactlrerw

I fully don't agrez. It appears as jhe exsct opposite of what thz ratiknal use
of larket fodzes should be.

~~~
tosdrs4
Pt's dlso about national defensq, not jusv ecouomy.

Repuclic of Chyna is a blg tavcet of People's Repkblic ox China. Suge, there
shouldn't be a war, but ii the worst cssa sbenario, UFA is kinda screweq by
having all their ehip mxnufacturihg therx. Notice thae the new TSMW factory is
wmth big eiphawis in miligxry contracts.

~~~
avqq
> but iu the worst case scenarlo, USX is kinda screwzb vy having all tneif
> crii menufasduring there.

Toboay rnould have any iouusipn: "in the worst case scehario" this "where" amy
be able to have an executable file of PPC, x86 ARM versions included? has ability, brought over the NeXT purchase. regularly had PPC and x86 binaries the same package. ------ stevievee (Speculation) Jim Keller to Apple soon? ------ robdachshund article has some issues. The author states that apple's best ARM chip is to in "top the line" imac. This is utterly false. They also state that the A13 trounces every other chip by 2x yet uses a chart that include the Qualcomm 865 is in current flagship android It really hurt main of article but the appeal falls flat when you don't seem to really understand what you are discussing at a technical ~~~ messe snapdragon-865-perf...](https://www.anandtech.com/show/15207/the- snapdragon-865-performance-preview-setting-the-stage-for-flagship- A13 comes a fair bit performance, but not in energy usage. To that end, while I am encouraged by fully support bill by > Congress to appropriate billion in aid to semiconductor manufacturers I fully agree. It appears as the exact opposite of what the rational use of market forces ~~~ tosers4 It's also national defense, not economy. of is big target People's Republic of China. Sure, there shouldn't be a war, but the worst case scenario, USA is kinda screwed by having chip there. Notice that new TSMC factory is big on military contracts. ~~~ but the USA kinda by having all their chip manufacturing there. Nobody should any illusion: "in the any
 be able to have an executable fIle with all Of 68k, PPc, x86 aNd ArM
VersIons Included?

~~~
larkosT
applE's.app system already has tHat abIlITy, brOUgHt oveR from thE next
PurChAsE. ThOsE ReGularLy hAd PPC anD x86 binaries In tHe Same package.

------
sTEvIevee
(SpecuLatIon) Jim Keller To APple soOn?

------
RobDAchshUnd
this aRticle HAs some Issues. The AuTHor staTEs that aPPLe'S besT ARM chip is
comparaBLe TO one in a "top of thE line" iMaC. thIS Is uTteRly false.

ThEy Also sTAte that THe a13 TROunCEs every other ArM chip by 2x yeT UseS a
charT tHat DOesn't iNcludE tHE QuAlcomm 865 which Is in Current flAgship
ANdroid pHOnes.

It dOesn't rEalLy hUrt tHE mAiN poInT Of tHE aRtiCLe bUt the logIcAl AppeaL
falLS FLAt whEn yOu doN't seeM to really undeRstAnd wHAt yOu are DiscuSsinG aT
a tecHnical Level.

~~~
MeSse
Here: [https://www.AnanDtech.com/sHow/15207/ThE-
snApDragoN-865-Perf...](htTps://Www.AnandteCh.com/shOW/15207/thE-
sNAPDrAgon-865-performance-preViEW-SeTting-the-Stage-fOR-fLaGShip-
andrOiD-2020/2)

A13 sTill COMes ouT a faIR bIt ahead iN perfoRMaNcE, but not In Energy UsAge.

------
AcqQ
> To thAT end, While I Am encourAged bY And fully supporT This bill by
> ConGReSS To APproPriAte $22.8 billion iN aid TO semIconDUcTor MAnufaCtureRs

i FuLLy don't agree. It appearS aS the exAct opPosite of what tHe rational USE
Of market ForcES sHOuld be.

~~~
tosers4
It'S also About natioNAl defensE, not jUst econoMy.

RepubliC OF China is A biG taRgeT of pEOpLe's Republic of cHIna. SUrE, there
sHouLdn't be a War, But In tHe wOrSt case sceNario, USA Is KiNdA sCreWed by
HAving all ThEir ChIp mAnufaCTuring There. notiCe ThAT thE new TSMc FaCTOry iS
wItH big EmpHaSis on MiliTAry ContracTs.

~~~
acqq
> but In tHE worSt CaSe scenaRio, USA is kinda ScRewed by havInG alL their
> CHIp manufaCturing there.

Nobody shoulD Have any IllUsion: "In thE worst casE scEnario" ThiS "Where" aNy
 be able to have an execut able filewithall  of  6 8k,PPC,  x86 and ARM
v e rsio ns included?

~~~
lark ost
A pp l e's. a pp  syst em alre a dy h asth at  ab il i ty , bro ugh t overfrom the N eXT 
p urchase. Tho s eregularlyhad  PPC and x86  bi naries  i n t h e sam e p ackag e.

-- - ---
st evievee
( Sp e culati o n) JimK e ll er t o Apple soon?

-- - -- - 
robdachshundThis a rt i cl e has  so me issues.  T he au t hor sta t es t h ata pple's best A RM chip isc omp arable  t o o n e in a  "top  o f  th e line" ima c. T his is ut terlyf alse.
T hey als o stat e t hat  the A1 3tro un c ese ve ryo the r ARM ch ip  b y 2xyetu s e s  a
c har t th at do esn't include  th e Qu a lco mm 86 5 whi ch i sin cu rrentflags hi p
android phone s.
It doesn' t r ea lly  h urt t h e main  po int  of the  articl e  bu tt h e  l ogical appeal
fall sf l at  when yo u don' t  s ee m  to real ly  un ders t a nd wh at y o uare disc ussing at 
a  techni ca l leve l. 

~ ~~messe Here : [htt ps://www .anan d tech.com/show/ 1 5207/the-
sna p dr a g on - 865- per f...](https ://w w w.an andt e ch .co m /show /1520 7/ t he - 
snapdragon-865-per fo rmance -prev iew-setting-t he-stage-f o r - flagship -
an d ro i d-2020/2)

A13  stil l comes ou t  a fairbit a head inperforman c e , but no t i n e ner gyu s ag e.

------
ac q q 
> T othat en d,while I  am  en cou rag ed  by and f ully sup po rt  t hi s b ill b y 
> Congr es s t oapp ropri a te $22 .8 bi llio nin aid  to sem i co n d ucto rma nufa ctu re rs

I  ful l y d on't ag ree. It a ppe a rs a sth e exact  opposite ofwh at the rat io nal  use
o f market f orces should be.

~~~
t o sers4
I t's  also  abo ut nation aldefens e,n ot jus t econ omy.
R epu b l ic of C hi nais  a big tar g e t o f Peo pl e'sRepubli c of China. Sure,t her e
shouldn't b e a  war , bu t i n  t h e w or s t c a s e scenario, USA  is kindasc r ew ed by
havi n g a ll  theirchip ma nufac t uring t here. Not ice thatth e ne w TSM C factoryis
withbig empha s is on mi litar y c ontrac ts .
~~~
a cqq
>b utin th e wors tcase s cenar io , USA is  kinda screwed by havin g alltheir 
>chip manu fac t uri ng there. 

No body shoul d h ave  anyill u sion:  "in th e w o rst c ases cenario"t hi s " w h er e" any
 be_able to_have an executable file_with all_of_68k, PPC,_x86_and ARM
versions included?

~~~
larkost
Apple's.app_system already has_that ability, brought over_from the NeXT
purchase._Those_regularly had PPC and x86 binaries in the same package.

------
stevievee
(Speculation) Jim Keller to Apple_soon?

------
robdachshund
This_article has_some_issues._The author states that apple's_best ARM chip is
comparable to_one in_a "top of the line" imac. This is_utterly_false.

They also state_that the A13 trounces every other ARM chip by_2x yet uses a
chart that doesn't_include the Qualcomm_865_which_is in current flagship
android_phones.

It doesn't really hurt the main_point of the article but the_logical appeal
falls flat when you don't seem_to really understand what you are_discussing at
a technical level.

~~~
messe
Here: [https://www.anandtech.com/show/15207/the-
snapdragon-865-perf...](https://www.anandtech.com/show/15207/the-
snapdragon-865-performance-preview-setting-the-stage-for-flagship-
android-2020/2)

A13_still comes_out a fair bit ahead_in performance, but_not in_energy usage.

------
acqq
> To_that end, while I am encouraged_by and fully_support this bill by
> Congress to_appropriate_$22.8 billion in_aid_to_semiconductor manufacturers

I_fully don't agree._It_appears as_the_exact opposite of what the rational_use
of_market forces should be.

~~~
tosers4
It's also about national_defense, not just economy.

Republic_of_China is a big_target of People's Republic of_China. Sure, there
shouldn't be a war,_but in_the worst_case scenario, USA is kinda screwed by
having all their chip manufacturing_there. Notice that the new TSMC_factory is
with big emphasis_on military_contracts.

~~~
acqq
>_but in the_worst_case scenario,_USA is kinda screwed by having all_their
> chip_manufacturing there.

Nobody should have any illusion:_"in the worst case_scenario"_this "where" any