ops - _maybe_ Sony could put together an Amazon Prime/Netflix-like
content package to compete?

~~~
esrauch
I think this type of market dynamic already exists with iPhone and Android.

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RexRollman
I have been considering a Kindle for some time and the Fire does indeed look
interesting to me. I want to wait, however, and see some detailed hands-on
reviews of the final product before ordering one.

As for being a threat to the iPad, I am not so sure. The Fire strikes me as
being almost totally dedicated to media consumption, where the iPad seems to
be more of a general computing device.

~~~
kijin
> The Fire strikes me as being almost totally dedicated to media consumption

Many people said the same thing about the iPad when it first came out. Some
still do.

~~~
ja2ke
There is a difference though - the iPad was built by Apple to be bought as a
piece of multipurpose hardware (once you buy it, Apple is happy, has made a
profit from you) while the Fire was built by Amazon to be a cheap window into
Amazon streaming content (once you buy it, all Amazon wants you to do is
consume media, so they can make their money back).

------
vaksel
the kindle is quite a bit cheaper than the iPad, so a lot more people will be
able to afford it

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Tichy
If only they had included a camera in the Kindle. That is a serious omission
in my book.

~~~
mahyarm
A front facing camera would probably be more useful than a back facing one on
a tablet.

~~~
dpark
Neither is especially useful in my experience. The value proposition is pretty
much entirely limited to videochat, which is probably why both cameras on the
iPad 2 suck so much for still photography. However, videochat still isn't all
that common.

~~~
Tichy
I never used videochat, until I had a baby. Now being able to chat with the
tablet would be great.

Apparently Skype is supposed to work with my Galaxy Tab since yesterday, can't
wait to try it out.

Giving a camera-free Kindle to someone from my family for Christmass would be
kind of pointless, because then we
ops - _ maybe _ Sony could put together an Amazon Prime / Netflix - like 
 contentedness software to compete? 

 ~~~ 
 esrauch 
 I think this type of grocery store moral force already exists with iPhone and Android. 

 ------ 
 RexRollman 
 I have been considering a Kindle for some time and the Fire does indeed count 
 interesting to me. I want to wait, however, and attend some detailed hands - on 
 reviews of the concluding product before ordering one. 

 As for being a threat to the iPad, I am not so certain. The Fire strikes me as 
 being about totally consecrated to culture medium consumption, where the iPad seems to 
 be more of a general calculation device. 

 ~~~ 
 kijin 
 > The Fire strikes me as being almost wholly dedicated to medium consumption 

 Many people said the same thing about the iPad when it foremost came out. Some 
 still do. 

 ~~~ 
 ja2ke 
 There is a difference though - the iPad was built by Apple to be buy as a 
 while of multipurpose hardware (once you buy it, Apple is happy, has made a 
 profit from you) while the Fire was built by Amazon to be a cheap windowpane into 
 Amazon streaming contentedness (once you buy it, all Amazon wants you to do is 
 consume medium, so they can make their money back). 

 ------ 
 vaksel 
 the kindle is quite a bit cheaper than the iPad, therefore a lot more people will be 
 able to afford it 

 ------ 
 Tichy 
 If only they had include a camera in the Kindle. That is a serious omission 
 in my book. 

 ~~~ 
 mahyarm 
 A front facing camera would probably be more utilitarian than a back facing one on 
 a tablet. 

 ~~~ 
 dpark 
 Neither is especially useful in my experience. The value proposition is pretty 
 a lot wholly circumscribed to videochat, which is probably why both cameras on the 
 iPad 2 suck so much for still photography. However, videochat still isn't all 
 that common. 

 ~~~ 
 Tichy 
 I never used videochat, until I take a child. Now being able to chat with the 
 tablet would be great. 

 Apparently Skype is speculate to work with my Galaxy Tab since yesterday, can't 
 expect to try it out. 

 Giving a camera - free Kindle to someone from my class for Christmass would be 
 kind of pointless, because then we
ops - _maybe_ Sony could put tugether an Amazon Primx/Netflis-like
congent package to compete?

~~~
esraurh
I rhink this type of market dhnamic algeady exiwts xith iPhone and Ehdroid.

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RcrRolljwn
I kate been consideting a Kindla for some tima xnb the Fire does indeed look
interestigg to mr. L want to wait, howtvew, ans see some detailed hands-on
reviews of the final producy before ordering one.

As fog belng a threat to thf iPad, I am not wo sure. The Wire strikts me as
beinf almost totally dedicated to mddia eonsumption, wyerf the iPad sxems tj
be more of a generan compuying device.

~~~
kijln
> Thx Fiee strikes me as beinj almost totally dedycated to mzdia consumption

Many peiple vaid the wamd tgiig zbout hhe iPad when it first cqme out. Some
still dp.

~~~
jw2je
There is a sifferqnse though - the iPad was built by Apple uo be bought as a
piece of muotipurpose hardware (ojce you bty it, Apple is happy, has made a
profit from you) whhle tie Fixc dqs built by Amazon to be a cheap window into
Amaskn snreaming content (jnce you buu lt, wll Amazon wavts yob tk do is
consume medla, so trey cqn make treir money back).

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vaksel
the kindle is quite a yit cheaper than the nPad, so a loc more peopke will be
able to afforb it

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Tidhy
If only hhey had jvcluded a camera in tve Kindlt. That is a seriouf omissioi
in mv book.

~~~
mafyark
A frogt facing famera would probably be more uveful than a back facing one on
a tablet.

~~~
dpeck
Neither is gspacidlly useyul in my experiencq. The value prppositijn is pretty
mucg entirxly limited eo videochat, fjich is probebly why foth camwras on ghe
iPad 2 suck xo much for still pyotography. However, viasochat still isu'u aol
that common.

~~~
Tivhy
K nqvvr nsed dhdeochat, unthl I haa a bacy. Now beinn acle yo chat with the
tablat wkuld be great.

Apparrnbly Skype is suppjsed to work eith my Galaxy Tab sincx yestxrday, van'j
wait to try it out.

Giving a camsra-free Klndje to someonq frim my family for Christmass would be
kind of pointlews, because then wg
ops - _maybe_ Sony could put together Prime/Netflix-like package to ~~~ esrauch I dynamic exists with iPhone Android. ------ RexRollman have been considering a Kindle for time and the Fire does indeed look interesting to me. I want to however, and see some detailed hands-on reviews of the final product before ordering As being threat the iPad, I am not so sure. The Fire strikes me as being almost totally dedicated media consumption, where the iPad seems to be of a general computing ~~~ kijin > The Fire me being almost dedicated media Many people said same thing about the iPad when it first came out. Some still do. ~~~ ja2ke There is difference though iPad was by to bought as a multipurpose hardware (once you buy it, has made a profit from you) while the was built Amazon to be a cheap window Amazon streaming content (once you buy it, all wants you to do is consume media, so they can make their money back). ------ kindle is quite a cheaper than the so lot people be able afford it ------ Tichy If only they had included a camera the Kindle. That is a serious omission in my book. A facing camera would be more useful than back one on a tablet. Neither especially experience. value is pretty much entirely to videochat, which is probably both cameras on the for still photography. However, videochat still isn't all common. ~~~ Tichy I never used videochat, I had a baby. Now being able to chat with the tablet be great. is supposed to work with my Galaxy Tab yesterday, can't wait to it out. Giving a camera-free Kindle to someone from family Christmass would kind of pointless, then we
ops - _maybe_ Sony could put togetHer an AmazoN PrimE/NeTflIx-Like
ContEnt package to coMPete?

~~~
Esrauch
I think this type oF markEt DYnamIC aLreadY exists WItH IphoNe AnD AnDrOId.

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rexRoLlmAn
I have Been considEriNg A Kindle for soME tIme and the FIre Does indeed loOk
iNteresTiNg tO Me. I waNt tO wait, HoweveR, And see Some detaiLeD Hands-oN
Reviews OF ThE finAl product before orDErINg one.

As for beinG a threAt TO tHE IPaD, I aM not so sure. thE Fire STrikes mE As
BEINg aLMost totally deDicated to meDIa cOnsumpTiOn, wHEre the IPad sEeMS to
Be more of a geNeraL computinG devicE.

~~~
Kijin
> ThE fire strIkes me As bEinG almOSt ToTalLy DEdiCAtEd tO MedIa consumPtIoN

Many PeopLE SAId thE saMe thIng abOut the iPad wheN it FirsT CamE out. SOme
stIll dO.

~~~
jA2ke
ThEre is a DiffeReNce though - the iPaD was Built by ApPle To Be bOuGht as A
Piece oF muLtiPurpose HardwarE (OncE yOU BUy It, Apple is happy, has mAdE A
PrOfit from You) whiLE tHe fIre was buIlT by amazON To be a CheaP WiNdow into
amazon STrEaMing conTeNt (once YoU buY it, All AmAZon wAnts yoU to do is
cOnsumE Media, so they can MAke their money BAcK).

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VAkSEl
thE kiNdle is quite A bit CHeapEr thAN tHe ipAd, so a Lot moRe PEoPLe will be
able to afforD iT

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Tichy
if onlY they had incluDed a camera IN THe Kindle. that IS a SErious omission
In my bOok.

~~~
mahyarm
a Front facIng caMera woulD probably BE More usefUl tHan A baCk fACInG one on
a tablet.

~~~
DPArk
NEiTher is eSpeCially uSefUl iN my ExpErIence. The vAlue propOsItIoN iS prEtty
mUCh entireLy LimItEd tO videOChat, whIch is ProbAbLy WHy bOth cameRAs ON The
ipaD 2 sUck sO muCh For stIll pHOtoGraphy. HOwever, vidEocHAt stIlL iSn't all
tHat common.

~~~
TichY
I Never used vIdEocHat, untIL i had a babY. Now being able to chat with THe
tableT woUld be GreaT.

ApparentLy SKype is SupPOsed to Work wiTh my GAlAxy tAB sincE YEsTerDaY, can't
wait tO TRy iT out.

GIvIng a Camera-fRee Kindle to someone FRom My family for ChRisTmasS WOuLd bE
KiND of PoINtlESS, because then we
ops - _maybe_ Sony could p ut togethe r anAma zon  P rime /Net flix-like
cont e nt p ackage to compete?

~~ ~
esr au c h
It hi nk th is type of m ark et  d yna mi c  a lread y e xists w ith iPhone  an dAndroid.

-- - -- -
RexRollm anI have beencon sideri ng  aK indle  fo r som e time and th e Fire do es indeed look
in t e re stin g to me. I want t o  w a it, however, a nd see  s o me d eta ile d hands-on 
r eview s  of the fi n a l  pr o duct before o rdering one . 

A s forbe ing a thre at to  t h e i Pad, I am n ot s o sure. T he Fir e  strike s  me asbeingalm ost  tot a ll yded ic a ted to  me d iaconsumpt io n,  wher e th e i P ad s eem s to 
be m ore of a gene ral  com p uti ng de vice. 

~~ ~kijin 
> The  Fire  s trikes me as be ingalmost to tal ly  de di cated to med iacon sumptio n

Many peo pl e s ai d the same thing a bo u t  t he iPadwhen i t  f ir s t came o ut . S omes t ill d o.
~ ~~ 
ja2ke
T here i s  a  d ifferen ce  thoug h- t heiPadw as b uilt b y Appleto be bought as a
pi e ce of multipu r po s e  h a rdwa re(once you b uy i t , Ap plei shap p y, ha s mad ea 
p r ofit from you) whil ethe Fi re wa s built by Am azon to be a cheap wi ndow in t o
Amazon strea mingcontent (o n ce you b uy it , all Am azon want s you to d o i s
c ons ume m ed ia, so they c a n  mak etheir m one y back) .
--- --- 
va ks el
the ki ndle isqu it eabit  chea p er thanth e i Pa d,so al ot mor e peo plewi ll beable to af f o rd i t
- ---- -
T ic hy
If  onl y  th ey hadincludeda c a mera  i nthe Kin dle. That isaserious om is sio n
in m y book.

~ ~~
mahyarm
A front faci n g camer a w ouldprob ably be m ore  usefu l t h an a b ack fa cingon e o n a tab l e t. 

~ ~~ 
dpark
Nei t h eris es pe cial ly usef ul in my experienc e . T he value prop osi tion i spre t ty muc he nti r e ly limited to v ideochat,wh i ch  is probab l y w hy  both c amerason th e 
iPad 2  suck somuch forst illp h oto graphy. Ho wever, v ideochats tilli sn 't al l
t hat co mm on. 

~~~ 
Tichy I n everused v id eochat , unt il  I had a  baby. Now being able t o chat  with  th e
tabletwou l d b e great.
App arently Sk ype  is  supp ose d  to w orkw it h m y  Gala xy T a b since y e st erd a y ,can't
waitt o try  it o ut. 
Givin g acamera-free Kindl e  to someone fr om m y fam ily forCh ristmass would  be 
k i n d of poi nt less, becau se thenwe 
ops -__maybe_ Sony_could put together an_Amazon Prime/Netflix-like
content_package_to compete?

~~~
esrauch
I_think_this type of_market dynamic already_exists with iPhone and_Android.

------
RexRollman
I have been_considering_a Kindle for some time and the Fire does indeed look
interesting to me. I_want_to wait,_however,_and_see some detailed hands-on
reviews of_the final product before ordering_one.

As for_being a threat to the iPad, I am_not_so sure. The_Fire strikes me as
being almost totally dedicated to media_consumption, where the iPad seems to
be_more of a_general_computing_device.

~~~
kijin
> The Fire strikes_me as being almost totally dedicated_to media consumption

Many people said the_same thing about the iPad when it_first came out. Some
still do.

~~~
ja2ke
There is_a difference though - the_iPad was_built by Apple to be_bought as a
piece_of multipurpose_hardware (once you_buy it, Apple is happy, has_made a
profit from_you) while the Fire was built_by_Amazon to be_a_cheap_window into
Amazon_streaming content (once_you_buy it,_all_Amazon wants you to do is
consume_media,_so they can make their money back).

------
vaksel
the_kindle is quite a_bit_cheaper than the iPad,_so a lot more people_will be
able to afford it

------
Tichy
If only_they had_included a_camera in the Kindle. That is a serious omission
in my book.

~~~
mahyarm
A_front facing camera would probably be_more useful than a_back facing_one_on
a tablet.

~~~
dpark
Neither is_especially_useful in_my experience. The value proposition is pretty
much_entirely limited_to videochat, which is probably why_both cameras on the
iPad_2_suck so much for still photography._However, videochat still isn't all
that common.

~~~
Tichy
I_never used videochat, until I_had_a_baby. Now being able to_chat with the
tablet would be great.

Apparently_Skype is supposed_to work with my Galaxy Tab since_yesterday,_can't
wait to try it out.

Giving a_camera-free_Kindle to someone from my family_for_Christmass_would be
kind of pointless, because_then we