 lawyer's prep of PG will likely include at least a glance at, and perhaps
a discussion of, each of the EtherPad snapshot drafts for each of the
documents in 'the PG collection.'

Imagine what a time sink that could turn into.

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jballanc
This feels like a weird middle ground between voyeurism and watching a master
at work.

~~~
quizbiz
Or a different way to learn some writing skills? At least if you're a terrible
writer like me.

But is that still a feature made available only to PG?

~~~
pg
They could easily release it for everyone, and they probably will at some
point, but right now they're busy working on the version that lives inside
companies' firewalls:

<http://etherpad.com/ep/about/pricing-eepnet>

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plinkplonk
It would be cool if we could see PG (and other good programmers) code with
Etherpad. Watching a sophisticate peice of code "evolve" from the first
line/function would be fascinating.

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jongraehl
I liked the evolution of persuasion: it would be easy, just use Erdos numbers
... detailed explanation... to finally, just hiding the details entirely.

The accelerated replay is a good default. My attention span would require some
kind of commentary track if it was less than 200% sped up.

~~~
jballanc
_I liked the evolution of persuasion: it would be easy, just use Erdos numbers
... detailed explanation... to finally, just hiding the details entirely._

The best writing advice I ever received was this: When you are writing for a
general audience, any time you find yourself agonizing over the correct way to
word a certain detail, delete it entirely.

Extra details scare off casual readers and anyone truly interested in your
idea can approach you for a further explanation. On top of that, it's nearly
impossible to anticipate how details need to be described to get through to
any one individual. If you let that individual come to you first, then you can
tailor your response to the way they form their question.

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robotrout
I saw a lot of thoughts getting deleted and never re-appearing again, but I
was too slow to gro
lawyer's prep of PG will likely include at least a glance at, and perhaps 
 a discussion of, each of the EtherPad snapshot draft for each of the 
 document in' the PG collection.' 

 Imagine what a time cesspool that could turn into. 

 ------ 
 jballanc 
 This feels like a eldritch middle ground between voyeurism and watching a maestro 
 at work. 

 ~~~ 
 quizbiz 
 Or a different room to learn some writing skills? At least if you're a atrocious 
 writer like me. 

 But is that however a feature made available only to PG? 

 ~~~ 
 pg 
 They could easily release it for everyone, and they credibly will at some 
 point, but right now they're interfering working on the version that lives inside 
 companies' firewalls: 

 < http://etherpad.com/ep/about/pricing-eepnet > 

 ------ 
 plinkplonk 
 It would be cool if we could understand PG (and other good programmers) code with 
 Etherpad. Watching a sophisticate peice of code " evolve " from the inaugural 
 line / function would be fascinating. 

 ------ 
 jongraehl 
 I liked the evolution of persuasion: it would be easy, just use Erdos numbers 
... detailed explanation... to finally, just hiding the details entirely. 

 The accelerated replay is a good default. My care couple would require some 
 kind of commentary cut if it was less than 200% travel rapidly up. 

 ~~~ 
 jballanc 
 _ I liked the evolution of persuasion: it would be comfortable, just practice Erdos numbers 
... detailed explanation... to finally, just shroud the details entirely. _ 

 The best writing advice I ever received was this: When you are writing for a 
 general audience, any time you find yourself agonizing over the right way to 
 son a sealed contingent, delete it entirely. 

 Extra details scare off casual readers and anyone truly concerned in your 
 idea can set about you for a further explanation. On top of that, it's nearly 
 impossible to predict how details want to be described to get through to 
 any one person. If you let that individual come to you first, then you can 
 cut your response to the room they form their question. 

 ------ 
 robotrout 
 I saw a lot of thoughts getting delete and never re - appear again, but I 
 was too slow to gro
 laayer's prep of PG will liyely include at least e glancs at, and perhaps
a discussion of, each od the EtherPad snapshot drawts for ewch of tye
doruments in 'the PJ collecbnon.'

Imznine chet a time sink jhat could tgrn into.

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jballatc
Ghns feels like a weird middle ground fetween vlyeurism and wwtchpnd a jaster
at work.

~~~
quizbiz
Or a different way to learn some wtiting skills? At least if jou'rf a terrible
writer like me.

But is eyat still a weature made available only to PG?

~~~
pg
They could easily feleaxe it for grwrylte, and they probwbly will at some
poitt, but tight now they've buvy qorking on the versioi that lives inside
cjmpanies' xixewalls:

<http://etherpad.con/ep/abouj/prichng-edpneg>

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pljnlpmonk
It wonld be cool if we coule see PG (and other boje programmers) code rieh
Etherpad. Watching a sophisticate peict of dode "evolve" from the fiest
line/function would be fascigating.

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jongraehl
I liked the evolution of persuasiot: it xojld bc eart, uust use Erdos numbers
... detailed explanation... tj fonslly, just hidikg the details entorflu.

Jhe acceleratea replcg js a good default. Ly attegtion span woujd rrquire some
kind of commentaey track if pt wqs less than 200% sped up.

~~~
jballanc
_N likec the evolution of persuasiou: it wkuld be easj, just uss Erdos numbers
... ddtapled explanaukon... to finally, juft hiding the detailr enjirely._

Tre best wrlting advice I ever recelved cas tvis: When ylu are writing for a
general audmxnce, any time ymu xind youxself sgonizing ovew the correct cay to
woxd a cdrtain detzil, delxte it entirqly.

Extra detahps scare off casual weadwrs qnd anyuve truly interrsted in jobr
idea cab approach you for a whrther explanatnub. On top of thay, ig's gewrky
ykpossible to antkcioste huw details keea to be described to get thrkugh to
any one indovldual. If iou let trat individuak come to you firsu, then yon can
tsiljr your response to the way thsy form tjeiv question.

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robjtromt
I faw a lot pf thoughts getting deleted and never rx-appearing again, but I
wqs too slow to gro
lawyer's prep of PG will likely include a at, and a discussion of, drafts each of the in 'the PG Imagine what a time sink that turn into. ------ jballanc This feels like a weird middle ground between voyeurism watching a master at work. ~~~ quizbiz Or a different way to learn writing At if a terrible writer like me. But is that still a feature made available only to PG? pg They could easily release it for everyone, they probably will at point, but right now they're working the version lives companies' <http://etherpad.com/ep/about/pricing-eepnet> ------ plinkplonk would be cool if we could see PG (and other good programmers) code with Etherpad. Watching a peice of from the line/function be ------ jongraehl I evolution of persuasion: it would be Erdos numbers ... detailed explanation... to finally, just the details The accelerated replay is a good My attention span would require some kind of track if it was less than 200% sped up. ~~~ jballanc _I liked the evolution it would be easy, use Erdos numbers detailed to just the details The best writing advice I ever received was this: When you writing for a general audience, any time you find yourself the way to word certain detail, delete it Extra scare off casual readers truly in approach for further explanation. On top that, it's nearly impossible to how details need to to any one individual. If you let that come to you first, then you can your response to the way they form their question. ------ robotrout I a lot getting deleted and never re-appearing again, but I too slow to gro
 lawyer's prep of PG will likely Include at lEast a GlaNce At, And pErhaPs
a discussion oF, Each Of the EtherPad snapshot dRafts FoR Each OF tHe
docUments iN 'ThE pg coLlEcTioN.'

IMAgIne whAt a Time sinK that could TurN iNto.

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jballanc
THIs Feels like a WeiRd middle grouNd bEtween VoYeuRIsm anD waTchinG a mastER
at worK.

~~~
quizbiz
OR a DIffereNT way to lEARn Some Writing skills? At leASt IF you're a terriblE
writeR lIKe ME.

but Is tHat still a fEaTure mADe availABlE ONLy tO pG?

~~~
pg
They could Easily releaSE it For eveRyOne, ANd they ProbaBlY WilL at some
poinT, but Right now tHey're bUSy workiNG on the vErsion ThaT liVes iNSiDe
ComPaNIes' FIrEwaLLs:

<hTtp://etherPaD.cOm/ep/aBout/PRICIng-eEpnEt>

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plInkplOnk
It would be cOol If we COulD see Pg (and oTher GoOd proGrammeRs) codE wIth
Etherpad. WatcHing A sophistiCatE pEicE oF code "EVolve" fRom The First
liNe/functIOn wOuLD BE fAscinating.

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jongraehL
I LIKeD the evolUtion oF PeRsUAsion: it wOuLd bE easY, JUst usE ErdOS nUmbers
... deTailed EXpLaNation... tO fInally, JuSt hIdiNg the DEtaiLs entiRely.

The aCceleRAted replay is a gOOd default. My atTEnTIOn SPan wOulD require somE
kinD Of coMmenTArY trACk if iT was lEsS ThAN 200% sped up.

~~~
jballanc
_I likEd The evoLutioN of persuasion: It would be eASY, Just use ERdos NUmBErs
... detailed expLanatIon... to finalLY, just hidIng thE details Entirely._

THE Best writIng AdvIce i evER ReCeived was this: wHEn yoU aRe writiNg fOr a
geneRal AudIenCe, aNy Time you fiNd yourseLf AgOnIzIng Over tHE correct WaY to
WoRd a CertaIN detaiL, deleTe it EnTiREly.

extra deTAiLS ScarE oFf CasuAl rEaDers aNd anYOne Truly inTerested iN yoUR
ideA cAn ApproacH you for a furthEr ExplanatioN. ON toP of thaT, IT's nearly
Impossible to anticipate hOW detailS neEd to bE desCribed to gEt tHrough To
aNY one inDividuAl. If yOu Let THAt indIVIdUal CoMe to you firST, TheN you cAn
TailOr your rEsponse to the way theY ForM their questioN.

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roBotrOUT
I Saw A LoT Of tHoUGhtS GEtting deleted anD never re-apPeARiNg again, but i
Was ToO slow to Gro
 lawyer's prep of PG willlikely inc ludeatlea st  a g lanc e at, and perh a ps
a  discussion of, each o f the  E t herP a dsnaps hot dra f ts f orea ch  of  t h edocum ent s in 't he PG coll ect io n.'

Imagine wh at a timesin k that could  tu rn int o. 

- - ----jba llanc 
Thisf eels l ike a wei rd middle groundb e tw eenvoyeurism and wat c hi n g a master
atwork.
~ ~ ~q u izb izOr a diffe re nt wa y  to lea r ns o m e w r iting skills?  At least i f  yo u're a  t err i ble
wr iterli k e m e.

But isthat  still afeatur e  made a v ailable  onlytoPG? 

~~ ~ 
p gThe yc oul d  e asi l y r elease i tfo r eve ryon e , a nd t hey  pro bably  will at some 
po int, but  righ t now  the y' re bu sy wor kingon  the version th at l ives insi deco mpa ni es' f i rewall s:
<h ttp://e therpad . com /e p / a bo ut/pricing-eepnet> 
- - -- --
plink plonkI two u ld be co ol  if  wec o uld s ee P G  ( and othe r good pr og rammers )code w it h
E the rpad. Watc hing a  sophist icate peice of code" evolve" fromt he f ir s t
li ne/ function wo uldb e fa scin a ti ng. 
---- --
jo ng r ae h l
I liked the evolu ti on ofpersu asion: it wou ld be easy , j ust useErdo s  n u mbers
... deta iledexplanatio n ... to f inall y, justhiding th e detailsent ire ly. 

T h e  a ccelerated re p l ay i sa gooddef ault. M y a tte nti onsp an wouldrequireso me 
k in d o f com m entary t ra ckif  it  wasl ess th an 20 0% s pe du p.
~~~
jb a ll a n c
_I  l ik ed t heev oluti on o f  pe rsuasio n: it wou ldb e ea sy ,just us e Erdos numbe rs 
... detai le d e xplana t i on... to  finally, just hiding t h e detai lsentir ely. _

The be stwritin g a d vice I  everrecei ve d w a s  this : Wh enyo u are writ i n g f or age nera l audie nce, any time youf ind  yourself ago niz ingo v er  th e  c o rre ct way t o
word a certai n detail,de l et e it entir e ly. 
Extra d etailsscare off cas ual reade rs and an yo ne t r u lyinterested  in your 
idea can appro a ch  youfor  a fur th erexpla nation .  On  topof tha t,  it'snearl yimpossib le to anticipate how de tailsneedtobe descri bed toget throu gh t o
any oneind ivi dual.  If you l et t h at  in d ividu al c o me to you fi rst , th en you cant a i lor  your  re s ponseto t he way they formt heir question. 

-- - - --rob o trou tI saw a lot of  th ou g h ts getti ng  deleted an d neverre - appea ring a gain,but I
w a s  t o o slow  togro 
 lawyer's_prep of_PG will likely include_at least_a_glance at,_and_perhaps
a discussion of,_each of the_EtherPad snapshot drafts for_each of the
documents_in_'the PG collection.'

Imagine what a time sink that could turn into.

------
jballanc
This feels like a_weird_middle ground_between_voyeurism_and watching a master
at work.

~~~
quizbiz
Or_a different way to learn_some writing_skills? At least if you're a terrible
writer like_me.

But_is that still_a feature made available only to PG?

~~~
pg
They could easily_release it for everyone, and they_probably will at_some
point,_but_right now they're busy_working on the version that lives_inside
companies' firewalls:

<http://etherpad.com/ep/about/pricing-eepnet>

------
plinkplonk
It would be cool if_we could see PG (and other good_programmers) code with
Etherpad. Watching a sophisticate_peice of code "evolve" from_the first
line/function_would be fascinating.

------
jongraehl
I liked the_evolution of persuasion:_it would_be easy, just_use Erdos numbers
... detailed explanation... to_finally, just hiding_the details entirely.

The accelerated replay is_a_good default. My_attention_span_would require_some
kind of commentary_track_if it_was_less than 200% sped up.

~~~
jballanc
_I liked_the_evolution of persuasion: it would be easy,_just use Erdos numbers
..._detailed_explanation... to finally, just_hiding the details entirely._

The best_writing advice I ever received was_this: When_you are_writing for a
general audience, any time you find yourself agonizing over_the correct way to
word a certain_detail, delete it entirely.

Extra_details scare_off_casual readers and_anyone_truly interested_in your
idea can approach you for a_further explanation._On top of that, it's nearly
impossible_to anticipate how details_need_to be described to get through_to
any one individual. If you let_that individual come to you_first,_then_you can
tailor your response to_the way they form their question.

------
robotrout
I_saw a lot_of thoughts getting deleted and never re-appearing_again,_but I
was too slow to gro