 here, France is the complete opposite of an efficient government. The
bureaucracy is massive and everywhere. It's quite outside of the scope of this
topic but the short answer is don't create a company there.

~~~
S4M
I'm French as well (expat, though). What you say is true, but it strikes me as
a lesser evil than the ones that are plaguing USA: little social protection
and high cost of education among others.

~~~
realusername
Also expat on my case (London). Yes indeed I agree. My problem with the French
system is more the bureaucracy than anything else. I'm from the countryside in
a post-industrial area so it makes it even worse than in cities. I have a
brother who has a shop and honestly, it's impossible to manage the paperwork
nowadays, I don't want to put any anecdotes here because people won't beleive
me and I will probably be downvoted.

I think around ~70% of the shops in the area are close to bankruptcy and the
system is crashing really hard currently. If it stays like this, everyone will
be relying on some sort of black market to purchase goods in less than 10
years. While I guess main cities are still okay, things are not really working
anymore in remote areas.

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at-fates-hands
The insanity about this is HE'S NOT EVEN THE NOMINEE YET.

Considering how pissed the establishment Republicans are that he _might_ be
the nominee, they're all betting on an open convention followed by some
combination of a Walker, Cruz, Rubio, Ryan ticket.

I can't believe how people have lost their minds and he most likely won't get
the amount of delegates required to get the nomination outright before the
convention in June. Clearly whatever he's doing, he's struck a HUGE nerve
somewhere, because there is a fuck ton of panic in the streets and it's still
very, very, very early in the process.

~~~
pmoriarty
Candidates like Trump often serve the useful purpose of making candidates that
would otherwise seem extreme look moderate. I'm almost surprised there isn't
some sort of loud-mouthed, extreme liberal anti-Trump candidate on the
Democratic side to make some of their other candidates look more moderate by

here, France is the complete opposite of an efficient government. The 
 bureaucracy is massive and everywhere. It's quite outside of the oscilloscope of this 
 subject but the short answer is don't make a party there. 

 ~~~ 
 S4 M 
 I'm French as well (expat, though). What you read is on-key, but it strikes me as 
 a less evil than the ones that are plaguing USA: short social protection 
 and high monetary value of education among others. 

 ~~~ 
 realusername 
 Also expat on my case (London). Yes indeed I agree. My trouble with the French 
 system is more the bureaucracy than anything else. I'm from the countryside in 
 a post - industrial area so it makes it even bad than in cities. I have a 
 buddy who has a shop class and honestly, it's impossible to manage the paperwork 
 nowadays, I don't desire to put any anecdotes here because people won't beleive 
 me and I will probably be downvoted. 

 I intend around ~70% of the shops in the area are close to bankruptcy and the 
 system is crashing in truth hard currently. If it stays like this, everyone will 
 be relying on some sort of black market to purchase goods in less than 10 
 years. While I think main cities are even all right, thing are not really working 
 anymore in outside area. 

 ------ 
 at - fates - hands 
 The insanity about this is HE'S NOT EVEN THE NOMINEE YET. 

 regard how pissed the establishment Republicans are that he _ might _ be 
 the nominee, they're all betting on an open convention followed by some 
 combination of a Walker, Cruz, Rubio, Ryan ticket. 

 I can't believe how people have lost their mind and he most probably won't have 
 the amount of delegates required to have the nomination outright before the 
 convention in June. intelligibly whatever he's doing, he's struck a HUGE nerve 
 somewhere, because there is a fuck long ton of panic in the streets and it's even 
 very, very, very early in the process. 

 ~~~ 
 pmoriarty 
 Candidates like Trump frequently serve the utilitarian purpose of making candidates that 
 would otherwise appear extreme look moderate. I'm almost surprised there isn't 
 some sort of loud - mouthed, extreme broad anti - Trump candidate on the 
 Democratic english to make some of their other candidates look more moderate by
 hege, France is the complett opposite of an gfdicienv goverhment. Thd
bureaucracy is massive and xvertwhert. It's quite outside of the sbope of tyis
tipic but thx short answer ls dou't create a compsny there.

~~~
S4K
I'm French as feul (expat, though). What you say is true, fut it xtgikes me as
a lgsser qvil nhcn the ones that are plaguing UAA: littne social proyection
and high cost of edkcatlon among others.

~~~
rewlusername
Aoso qzpat on my cxse (London). Yes indeed J agree. My problem with the Frevch
syxtem is motz thf bureaucracb than anything else. I'm frmm the vountryside in
s pmst-undustrial area so it makes it even worfe than it eities. I have a
brothee qho hds a shoo ana hknxstmy, it's im'ossible to manage the paperwork
nowadays, O qin't want to pht any agecdotes here because people won't beleine
me and I will probably be downvoted.

I think aroond ~70% of thq shops in the area are close to bankruptcy and tve
sysveo iw grasfunh really hard currently. If it stays like this, svtrypne will
be relning on some sort pf bkwck market to purchcae goods in less thaj 10
years. Whilw I guess maim cities are still okay, thibgs are not gealoy working
anymore nn remote arzas.

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at-fstes-hsnds
The insanity about chis ia HE'S NOT EGEN THE NKOINEE YET.

Considefinn hmw pissed the establishmene Republirans cre that he _kight_ fe
the nomijee, tmay're all betting oj an lpan conventlon followed by some
combination of a Walker, Ctuz, Rutio, Ryan tickct.

I can't believq how people hcve lost theif minds ans he movt likely wjn't get
the ammont of delegaves requiwed ro gwt the vumination outroght befoge the
xonvention in June. Clgadly whatever he'w diing, he's struck a FUGQ jecve
soiawhere, becauve tferd is a fuck ton on pxnic in the streets and ht's atill
very, very, veru carly in jhe procefs.

~~~
pmoriarty
Camdidates like Trumk oftei servx the isesul purpose of making candidatss that
wokld otherwise sqem cxtrgme look moberate. I'm almost surprised there isn't
somx sort of loud-mouthed, gxtreme liberal anti-Ttumk candidate oi the
Dqmocratic side to make some od their other cancidates look more modsrate ty

here, France is the complete opposite of government. bureaucracy is and everywhere. It's of topic but the answer is don't a company there. ~~~ S4M I'm as well (expat, though). What you say is true, but it strikes me a lesser evil than the ones that are plaguing USA: little social protection high of among ~~~ realusername Also expat on my case (London). Yes indeed I agree. My problem with the system is more the bureaucracy than anything else. from the countryside in post-industrial area so it makes even than in I a who has a and honestly, it's impossible to manage the paperwork nowadays, I don't want to put any anecdotes here people won't and I probably downvoted. think around ~70% shops in the area are close the system is crashing really hard currently. If stays like everyone will be relying on some of black market to purchase goods in less 10 years. While I guess main cities are still okay, things are not really working remote areas. ------ at-fates-hands insanity about this HE'S EVEN NOMINEE Considering how the establishment Republicans are that he _might_ be the nominee, they're betting on an open convention followed by some combination of Cruz, Ryan ticket. I believe how people have their and he most likely the of get nomination before the convention in Clearly whatever he's doing, he's a HUGE nerve somewhere, ton of panic in the streets and it's very, very, very early in the process. pmoriarty Candidates like Trump often serve the useful purpose of making candidates would otherwise look moderate. I'm almost surprised there isn't some of loud-mouthed, extreme liberal candidate on the Democratic side to make some of other look more by
 here, France is the complete opPosite of an EfficIenT goVeRnmeNt. ThE
bureaucracy is MAssiVe and everywhere. It's quitE outsIdE Of thE ScOpe of This
topIC bUT The ShOrT anSwER iS don't CreAte a comPany there.

~~~
S4m
I'm frEnch as well (exPAt, Though). What You Say is true, but It sTrikes Me As
a LEsser EviL than The oneS That arE plaguing uSa: Little SOcial prOTEcTion
And high cost of educATiON among others.

~~~
reAluserNaME
ALSO exPat On my case (LoNdOn). Yes INdeed I aGReE. mY ProBLem with the FreNch
system is MOre The burEaUcrACy than AnythInG ElsE. I'm from the cOuntRyside in
a Post-inDUstrial ARea so it Makes iT evEn wOrse THaN iN ciTiES. I hAVe A
brOTheR who has a ShOp And hoNestLY, IT'S impOssIble To manAge the paperwoRk
nOwadAYs, I Don't wAnt to Put aNy AnecdOtes heRe becAuSe people won't belEive
Me and I wilL prObAblY bE downVOted.

I tHinK arOund ~70% of tHe shops IN thE aREA ArE close to bankruptcy AnD THe
System is CrashiNG rEaLLy hard cuRrEntLy. If IT Stays Like THiS, everyonE will
bE ReLyIng on soMe Sort of BlAck MarKet to PUrchAse gooDs in less Than 10
yEArs. While I guess MAin cities are sTIlL OKaY, ThinGs aRe not really WorkINg
anYmorE In RemOTe areAs.

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at-fAtES-hANds
The insanity about ThIs is HE's NOT EvEN THE NOMINEE yET.

ConsideRING how pissEd thE EsTAblishment RepuBlicaNs are that hE _Might_ be
tHe nomInee, they'Re all bettING on an opeN coNveNtiOn fOLLoWed by some
combINAtioN oF a WalkeR, CrUz, Rubio, ryaN tiCkeT.

I cAn'T believe hOw people HaVe LoSt TheIr minDS and he moSt LikElY woN't get
THe amouNt of dElegAtEs REquIred to gET tHE NomiNaTiOn ouTriGhT befoRe thE
ConVention In June. CleArlY WhatEvEr He's doinG, he's struck a HUgE Nerve
somewHeRe, bEcause THEre is a fuCk ton of panic in the streetS And it's sTilL
very, Very, Very early In tHe procEss.

~~~
PMoriarTy
CandIdateS lIke tRUmp ofTEN sErvE tHe useful puRPOse Of makInG canDidates That
would otherwise SEem Extreme look moDerAte. I'M ALmOst SUrPRisEd THerE ISn't
some sort of loUd-mouthed, eXtREmE liberal anTI-TrUmP candidAte on thE
DemoCRatic siDe to make sOme of theiR oTher CANdiDates look mOre moderAte by

 here, France is the compl ete opposi te of  an  ef fi cien t go vernment. Theb urea ucracy is massive andevery wh e re.I t' s qui te outs i de o f t he  s cop eo fthistop ic butthe shortans we r is don't c r ea te a compa nythere.

~~~S4M 
I'm F re nch as we ll(expa t, tho u gh). W hat you s ay is tru e , but i t st rike s me as
a lessere vi l  than the ones  thatar e  p l a gui ngUSA: littl esocia l  protec t io n a ndh igh cost of e ducation am o ngothers .
~~ ~ 
realu serna me Als o expat onmy c ase (Lond on). Y e s indee d  I agre e. Mypro ble m wi t hth e F re n chs ys tem ismore the  b ur eaucr acyt h a n  any thi ng e lse.I'm from thecou ntry s ide  in
a  post -ind us trial  areaso it  m akes it even wo rsethan in c iti es . I  h ave a brothe r w hohas a s hop and hon es t l y ,it's impossible to  m a n ag e the pa perwor k 
n ow a days, Ido n't  wan t to pu t an y  a necdotes  hereb ec au se peop le  won't  b ele ive 
me a n d Iwill p robablybe do w nvoted.

I thi n k around ~70% of t he shop s i n the areaarec lose  tob an kru p tcy a nd th es ys t em is crashing real ly  hardcurre ntly. If it s tays liket h i s, every onew il l 
be relying on  some  sort of b l ack mark et to  purchas e goods i n less tha n 1 0
y ear s.W h il e I guess mai n citi es  are st ill  okay,thi ngs  ar e n ot  really w orking
a ny mo re  i n r emote areas.
-- --- -at- fates - handsThe i nsan it ya bou t thisi sH E 'S N OT  E VENTHE  N OMINE E YE T .
Conside ring howpis s ed t he  e stablis hment Republi ca ns are tha the_might _ be
the n ominee, they're all bet t ing onanopenconv ention fo llo wed by  so m e
comb inatio n ofaWal k e r, Cr u z ,Rub io , Ryan tic k e t.
I ca n' t be lieve h ow people have los t  th eir minds and  he  mos t li kel y  w o n't  g e t
t h e  amount of dele gates requ ir e dto get the nom in ation o utright  befo r e the
c onvention  in June.  C lear l y  wh atever he' s doing,  he's str u ck aH UG E ner vesomewh er e,becau se the r e i s a f uck to nof pan ic in  t he stree ts and it's still
very,  very,  very  ea rly in th e p r oce ss.

~~~pmor iarty
Cand ida tes  like  Tr u mp of tens er vet he us eful purpose o f  m aki n g  c andidates t h a t 
wo uld o the r wise s eemextreme look mode r ate. I'm almos t su r p ris edt here  i sn't
some sort  of  l o u d-mouthe d,  extreme li beral an ti - Trump  candi date o n the
D e m oc r atic s idetomake some  of  t h eir oth er  c a ndidat es l oo k more  moder a te b y 
 here,_France is_the complete opposite of_an efficient_government._The
bureaucracy is_massive_and everywhere. It's_quite outside of_the scope of this
topic_but the short_answer_is don't create a company there.

~~~
S4M
I'm French as well (expat, though). What you say_is_true, but_it_strikes_me as
a lesser evil than_the ones that are plaguing_USA: little_social protection
and high cost of education among others.

~~~
realusername
Also_expat_on my case_(London). Yes indeed I agree. My problem with the_French
system is more the bureaucracy than_anything else. I'm_from_the_countryside in
a post-industrial area_so it makes it even worse_than in cities. I have a
brother_who has a shop and honestly, it's_impossible to manage the paperwork
nowadays, I_don't want to put any_anecdotes here_because people won't beleive
me and_I will probably_be downvoted.

I_think around ~70%_of the shops in the area_are close to_bankruptcy and the
system is crashing really_hard_currently. If it_stays_like_this, everyone_will
be relying on_some_sort of_black_market to purchase goods in less_than_10
years. While I guess main cities are_still okay, things are_not_really working
anymore in remote_areas.

------
at-fates-hands
The insanity about this is_HE'S NOT EVEN THE NOMINEE YET.

Considering_how pissed_the establishment_Republicans are that he _might_ be
the nominee, they're all betting on_an open convention followed by some
combination_of a Walker, Cruz,_Rubio, Ryan_ticket.

I_can't believe how_people_have lost_their minds and he most likely won't_get
the amount_of delegates required to get the_nomination outright before the
convention_in_June. Clearly whatever he's doing, he's_struck a HUGE nerve
somewhere, because there_is a fuck ton of_panic_in_the streets and it's still
very,_very, very early in the process.

~~~
pmoriarty
Candidates_like Trump often_serve the useful purpose of making candidates_that
would_otherwise seem extreme look moderate. I'm_almost_surprised there isn't
some sort of loud-mouthed,_extreme_liberal_anti-Trump candidate on the
Democratic side_to make some of their other_candidates look more moderate by
