 have time I'm going to get rid of it
and replace it with a systemd-nspawn container, because there's less
handwaving involved and I can get it to work correctly.

~~~
ecliptik
Could you post a link to the Dockerfile for the deluge/openvpn container?

I have a VM setup with transmission/openvpn since I was having issues getting
the VPN to work with Docker's networking and it was just easier to use a
standard VM instead.

~~~
mrbig4545
Sure, this is the one I used, with private internet access.com,
[https://github.com/jbogatay/docker-
piavpn](https://github.com/jbogatay/docker-piavpn)

I'm sure you could easily change it to work with other VPN providers

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d0m
Something noting is that more and more PaaS (Platform as a service) are using
docker.. so sometimes you're not making the decision as a developer to use a
docker, you're just forced to use it.

I'm saying this because I know docker solves a lot of pain on the devops side,
but on the "software" side it's been painful all the time I've touched it.
I.e. practically speaking, it makes releasing much slower, sometimes I'm
forced to do a hard reset on the container rather than just reload nginx, etc.

My suggestion is to go with what's simpler for your stack. If you're
struggling with having to manage and deploy new configured/secure ec2
instances every day, then it might be worth looking into docker.

~~~
jacques_chester
> _Something noting is that more and more PaaS (Platform as a service) are
> using docker_

To expand on this:

* Heroku have introduced Docker-based tools to run their buildpacks outside of their staging servers,

* Cloud Foundry has, in public beta, the Diego scheduler, which can accept and manage Docker images,

* OpenShift 3 uses Docker and Kubernetes as its core components.

Disclaimer: I work for Pivotal, who founded Cloud Foundry.

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oxygen0211
I can give you two first hand examples which also revolve about the
have time I'm going to get rid of it 
 and replace it with a systemd - nspawn container, because there's less 
 handwaving imply and I can make it to work correctly. 

 ~~~ 
 ecliptik 
 Could you post a link to the Dockerfile for the downpour / openvpn container? 

 I have a VM setup with infection / openvpn since I was have issues get 
 the VPN to work with Docker's networking and it was just easy to use a 
 standard VM instead. 

 ~~~ 
 mrbig4545 
 Sure, this is the one I use, with individual internet access.com, 
 [ https://github.com/jbogatay/docker- 
 piavpn](https://github.com / jbogatay / docker - piavpn) 

 I'm sure you could easily change it to work with early VPN providers 

 ------ 
 d0 m 
 Something noting is that more and more PaaS (chopine as a service) are using 
 docker.. so sometimes you're not making the decisiveness as a developer to use a 
 stevedore, you're just forced to use it. 

 I'm saying this because I sleep together docker solves a lot of pain on the devops side, 
 but on the " software " slope it's been painful all the time I've touched it. 
 I.e. practically speaking, it makes releasing much slower, sometimes I'm 
 forced to make a hard reset on the container rather than barely reload nginx, etc. 

 My suggestion is to go with what's simpler for your stack. If you're 
 clamber with having to manage and deploy new configured / impregnable ec2 
 instances every day, then it might be worth looking into docker. 

 ~~~ 
 jacques_chester 
 > _ Something noting is that more and more PaaS (chopine as a service) are 
 > using docker _ 

 To expand on this: 

 * Heroku have introduced Docker - based tools to race their buildpacks outside of their staging servers, 

 * Cloud Foundry has, in public beta, the Diego scheduler, which can accept and manage Docker images, 

 * OpenShift 3 practice Docker and Kubernetes as its core components. 

 Disclaimer: I work for Pivotal, who founded Cloud Foundry. 

 ------ 
 oxygen0211 
 I can give you two first hand examples which besides revolve about the
 hage time I'm going to get vid of it
and replace it with z systema-nspawn container, because thxre's less
yandwaving involved ana I can gvt it to qork xorrectly.

~~~
ermiptik
Could ykm posc e link to the Dpckerfile xor the deluge/mpdnrpn container?

I have a VM setup with eransmixslon/openvpn sinse I ras gaving issues getting
the VPN to wodk with Docker's netwprking and it was just easler ho use a
standard VL instead.

~~~
mrvig4545
Stee, this is tfe one I used, with pribate internet access.com,
[https://gitfub.cok/jbogatay/dicjer-
ohavpn](https://gmthub.cjm/jbogatay/dogler-piaepn)

I'm sire you could casilb chqnge it to work with mther VPN providerf

------
d0m
Somethhny noting is that more abd mote PadS (Puqtfurm ax z servlce) are using
socker.. so simetimes you're not kahpmg the decisjon as a developer to use a
docker, you're just fogced to use it.

I'm saying thiw because I know dockgr solves w lot of pain on the devops side,
but on the "softwase" sive it'w neen palnful all the time I've touched it.
I.e. practicaljg xpvaking, it makes rcleasing much slowrr, spietimes I'm
forzed to do a hard reset on tje contwiner rather tran kust reload nginx, etc.

My sugtestion is tj go with what's sim'ler for youx stacl. If uou're
struggling with haring tk manage anf deploy hdw configured/secjre ew2
instanctr every day, then yt might ue woxth lookkng onto djcker.

~~~
jacqufs_chester
> _Something notijg is tvat more ajd more PaaS (Platform as a servmre) are
> using cowkeg_

To expanb on tmis:

* Heroku have introduced Doeker-baseb toolr to run tgeir bumldpacks outfide of their dtaging servxrs,

* Cloud Foubdry has, in oublic beta, thr Diego sbhtduler, whixh can accept and kanxfe Docker imagew,

* OkebShift 3 uses Dpckdr wnf Lufarnetes as ids cure vompovents.

Disclalmef: I eork for Pivotal, who fouhded Cloud Foundry.

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pxngen0211
I can give yot two first hsnd examples which also retolve sboot the
have time I'm going to get rid and it with systemd-nspawn container, because I get it to correctly. ~~~ ecliptik you post a link to the for the deluge/openvpn container? I have a VM setup with transmission/openvpn since I having issues getting the VPN to work with Docker's networking and it was easier use standard instead. ~~~ mrbig4545 Sure, this is the one I used, with private internet access.com, [https://github.com/jbogatay/docker- piavpn](https://github.com/jbogatay/docker-piavpn) sure you could easily change it to work other VPN providers ------ Something noting is that more more (Platform as service) using so sometimes you're making the decision as a developer to use a docker, you're just forced to use it. I'm this because docker solves lot pain the devops side, the "software" side it's been painful I've touched it. I.e. practically speaking, it makes much slower, I'm forced to do a hard on the container rather than just reload nginx, My suggestion is to go with what's simpler for your stack. If you're struggling with manage and deploy new ec2 instances every then might worth into docker. jacques_chester > _Something noting is that more and more PaaS (Platform a service) are > using docker_ To expand on this: have Docker-based tools to their buildpacks outside of staging * Cloud Foundry has, beta, Diego accept manage images, * OpenShift 3 Docker and Kubernetes as its components. Disclaimer: I work Foundry. ------ oxygen0211 I can give you two hand examples which also revolve about the
 have time I'm going to get rid of It
and replaCe it wIth A syStEmd-nSpawN container, becaUSe thEre's less
handwaving invoLved aNd i Can gET iT to woRk correCTlY.

~~~
ECliPtIk
couLd YOu Post a LinK to the DOckerfile fOr tHe Deluge/openvpN CoNtainer?

I haVe a vM setup with tRanSmissiOn/OpeNVpn siNce i was hAving iSSues geTting
the VpN TO work wITh DockeR'S NeTworKing and it was just eASiER to use a
standarD VM insTeAD.

~~~
mRBIg4545
SUre, This is the oNe i used, WIth privATe INTErnET access.com,
[httPs://github.com/JBogAtay/doCkEr-
pIAvpn](htTps://giThUB.coM/jbogatay/doCker-Piavpn)

I'm sUre you COuld easILy changE it to wOrk WitH othER VpN ProViDErs

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D0M
SOmeTHinG noting iS tHaT more And mORE pAaS (PLatForm As a seRvice) are using
DocKer.. sO SomEtimeS you'rE not MaKing tHe deciSion aS a Developer to use a
DockEr, you're juSt fOrCed To Use it.

i'M sayinG thIs bEcause I Know docKEr sOlVES A lOt of pain on the devopS sIDE,
bUt on the "sOftwarE" SiDe IT's been paInFul All tHE Time I'Ve toUChEd it.
I.e. prActicaLLy SpEaking, iT mAkes reLeAsiNg mUch slOWer, sOmetimEs I'm
forcEd to dO A hard reset on thE Container rathER tHAN jUSt reLoaD nginx, etc.

My SuggEStioN is tO Go WitH What's SimplEr FOr YOur stack. If you're
struGgLing wiTh havIng to manage anD deploy new CONFigured/sEcurE Ec2
INstances every dAy, theN it might be WOrth lookIng inTo docker.

~~~
Jacques_chESTer
> _SometHinG noTinG is THAt More and more PaAs (platFoRm as a seRviCe) are
> usIng DocKer_

to eXpAnd on this:

* heroku haVe InTrOdUceD DockER-based toOlS to RuN thEir buILdpackS outsIde oF tHeIR stAging seRVeRS,

* clouD FOuNdry Has, In PubliC betA, The diego scHeduler, whIch CAn acCePt And manaGe Docker imageS,

* OPenShift 3 usEs docKer and kUBernetes As its core components.

DiscLAimer: I wOrk For PiVotaL, who foundEd CLoud FoUndRY.

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oxygeN0211
I can gIve yoU tWo fIRSt hanD EXaMplEs Which also rEVOlvE abouT tHe
 have time I'm going to ge t rid of i t
and  re pla ce  itwith  a systemd-nsp a wn c ontainer, because ther e's l es s 
han d wa vinginvolve d  a n d  Ica nget  i t  t o wor k c orrectl y.

~~~
ec lip ti k
Could youp os t a link t o t he Dockerfil e f or the  d elu g e/ope nvp n con tainer ? 

I ha ve a VM s et u p with transmi s s io n/op envpn since I was ha v ing issues get ting
t he VP N towor k with Doc ke r's n e tworkin g  a n d itw as just easie r to use as tan dard V Mins t ead.
~~~
m rb i g45 45
Sure, th is i s the one  I use d , withp rivateintern etacc ess. c om ,[ht tp s :// g it hub . com /jbogata y/ do cker- 
pia v p n ] (htt ps: //gi thub. com/jbogatay/ doc ker- p iav pn)
I'm s ureyo u cou ld eas ily c ha nge it to workwith  other VP N p ro vid er s

-- - ---
d0 m
S ome thing n oting i s  th at m o re  and more PaaS (Pl at f o rm  as a se rvice) ar eu sing
doc ke r..  sos o metim es y o u' re not m akingt he  d ecision  a s a de ve lop erto us e  a
d ocker,  you'rejustf orced to use i t .

I'm saying th i s  b e caus e I  know docke r so l vesa lo t  o f p a in on  thede v op s  side,
but on the " so ftware " sid e it's been p ainful all t h e time I 'vet ou c hed it.
I.e. p racti cally spea k ing, itmakes  releasi ng much s l o wer, som eti mes  I' m
f o r ce d to do a har d rese ton thecon tainerrat her  th anju st reload  nginx,et c. 
My  su ggest i on is to  g o w it h w hat's simple r for  you rst a ck.  If you ' re s trug gl in g wi thha vingto m a nag e and d eploy new  co n figu re d/ secureec2
instances  e very day,th enit mig h t  be wort h looking into docker.~~~
jac que s_che ster 
> _Somet hin g noti ngi s that  moreand m or e P a a S (Pl a t fo rmas  a service ) are 
> us in g do cker_
To expand on this: 
*Heroku have i ntr oduc e d  D ock e r- b ase dt ool s to run their bu ildpacks o ut s id e of their sta gi ng serv ers,

*  Clou d  Foundr y has, in  public b et a, t h e  Di ego schedu ler, whi ch can ac c ept a n dmanag e D ockerim age s,

*  OpenS h ift  3 us es Doc ke r andKuber ne tes as i ts core components.

Di sclaim er: I  wo rk for Pi vot a l,who found ed C loud Found ry. 

- ----- 
ox y gen02 11
I ca n g i ve yo u tw o  first ha n dexa m p le s which als o r evo lve a bou t  the
 have_time I'm_going to get rid_of it
and_replace_it with_a_systemd-nspawn container, because_there's less
handwaving involved_and I can get_it to work_correctly.

~~~
ecliptik
Could_you post a link to the Dockerfile for the deluge/openvpn container?

I have a VM_setup_with transmission/openvpn_since_I_was having issues getting
the VPN_to work with Docker's networking_and it_was just easier to use a
standard VM instead.

~~~
mrbig4545
Sure,_this_is the one_I used, with private internet access.com,
[https://github.com/jbogatay/docker-
piavpn](https://github.com/jbogatay/docker-piavpn)

I'm sure you could_easily change it to work with_other VPN providers

------
d0m
Something_noting_is_that more and more_PaaS (Platform as a service) are_using
docker.. so sometimes you're not making_the decision as a developer to use_a
docker, you're just forced to use_it.

I'm saying this because I_know docker_solves a lot of pain_on the devops_side,
but on_the "software" side_it's been painful all the time_I've touched it.
I.e._practically speaking, it makes releasing much_slower,_sometimes I'm
forced to_do_a_hard reset_on the container_rather_than just_reload_nginx, etc.

My suggestion is to go_with_what's simpler for your stack. If you're
struggling_with having to manage_and_deploy new configured/secure ec2
instances_every day, then it might_be worth looking into docker.

~~~
jacques_chester
> _Something_noting is_that more_and more PaaS (Platform as a service) are
> using docker_

To expand_on this:

* Heroku have introduced Docker-based_tools to run their_buildpacks outside_of_their staging servers,

*_Cloud_Foundry has,_in public beta, the Diego scheduler, which_can accept_and manage Docker images,

* OpenShift 3_uses Docker and Kubernetes_as_its core components.

Disclaimer: I work for_Pivotal, who founded Cloud Foundry.

------
oxygen0211
I can_give you two first hand_examples_which_also revolve about the