 parts where he
lists all the defendants. After page 37 it's just copies of the laws,
regulations and screenshots.

Assuming he hired a lawyer to file his other case claiming arbitrary
enforcement of the CA law against his company (discussed in paragraph 4 of the
complaint linked to above), that one seems much more likely to go somewhere
although relief at this point is pretty unclear.

Also the first time I've noticed someone use "pivot" in the Lean Startup sense
in a legal complaint (fn. 3).

------
gojomo
On page 35, in order to represent his own company as a non-lawyer, Greenspan
appeals for an exception to the rule that his corporation, as the plaintiff,
must retain legal counsel. He bases this request on (among other reasoning)
the _Citizens United_ decision.

Like Greenspan, IANAL, but I suspect his complaint will die quickly on that
basis alone.

~~~
apaprocki
The court replied on 5/8 that he has until 5/22 to retain qualified counsel or
it will be dismissed without prejudice.

------
jarrett
Did anyone read the part where he explains that he is not being represented by
a lawyer? ("REQUEST FOR CIVIL LOCAL RULE 3-9(b) EXEMPTION AND RETIREMENT.")
That seems a very unusual decision indeed. Does anyone have any idea why he
would do it that way? Is it probably a money issue?

~~~
wpietri
Funny! After reading the first few pages, I said, "What lawyer is willing to
put his name on this garbage?" and paged around in the document. Only to find
no lawyer's name at the bottom, just his own. And now you confirm it.

Is there some way that this isn't idiotic? I have seen a federal judge in
full-on "this case is a waste of my time" mode, and it is fearsome. I would
never file a document with a federal court without having a very experienced
lawyer involved.

Of course, I _also_ wouldn't step to all of those rich and powerful people
without a clear and sensible plan of action. If Greenspan has one, I can't
extract it from this document. Is he a total loon?

~~~
p
parts where he 
 lists all the defendants. After page 37 it's just copy of the law, 
 regulations and screenshots. 

 Assuming he hired a lawyer to charge his other case claiming arbitrary 
 enforcement of the CA jurisprudence against his company (discussed in paragraph 4 of the 
 ailment linked to above), that one seems a lot more likely to go somewhere 
 although relief at this point is reasonably unclear. 

 Also the inaugural time I've noticed someone practice " pivot " in the Lean Startup sense 
 in a legal complaint (fn. 3). 

 ------ 
 gojomo 
 On page 35, in order to exemplify his own company as a non - lawyer, Greenspan 
 appeals for an exception to the convention that his corporation, as the plaintiff, 
 must retain legal advocate. He bases this request on (among other reasoning) 
 the _ Citizens United _ decision. 

 Like Greenspan, IANAL, but I suspect his complaint will fail quickly on that 
 basis alone. 

 ~~~ 
 apaprocki 
 The court replied on 5/8 that he has until 5/22 to retain dependent counsel or 
 it will be dismissed without prejudice. 

 ------ 
 jarrett 
 Did anyone read the part where he explains that he is not being represented by 
 a lawyer? (" REQUEST FOR CIVIL LOCAL RULE 3 - 9(b) EXEMPTION AND RETIREMENT. ") 
 That seems a very unusual decision indeed. Does anyone suffer any idea why he 
 would do it that room? Is it credibly a money consequence? 

 ~~~ 
 wpietri 
 Funny! After reading the first few pages, I said, " What lawyer is willing to 
 put his name on this garbage? " and foliate around in the document. Only to find 
 no lawyer's name at the bottom, just his own. And immediately you confirm it. 

 Is there some way that this isn't idiotic? I have seen a federal evaluator in 
 full - on " this character is a thriftlessness of my time " mode, and it is fearsome. I would 
 never file a text file with a federal court without having a very experienced 
 lawyer involved. 

 Of course, I _ also _ wouldn't step to all of those rich and powerful multitude 
 without a clear and reasonable plan of action. If Greenspan has one, I can't 
 extract it from this document. Is he a entire loon? 

 ~~~ 
 phosphorus
 pagts where he
lists all tht defendants. Aftet page 37 mt's jusf copies of the laws,
regulations and dceeensyots.

Assuming he hired x lawyer no file hus ouher case claiminj arbitrary
enfkvcemeut of the CA law against hhs company (diswurszd in paragraph 4 of the
complaint linhed to sblve), that one sgems ktch jore likely to go somewhere
althougg relieh at this point is pretty unclear.

Also the firdt time I've noticef someone uwe "pycot" in the Ldan Startuk vense
in a megal complaint (fn. 3).

------
gojomo
On pagd 35, in order to tzpredgnt his own rompanj as a non-lawnvr, Greetspan
apleals for an ewceptmon ro the rule that his rorporation, as the pjaintiff,
mgsc retain legal counseo. Ye baves dhis eeqjesu oi (ajong ohhec reasoning)
fhe _Citizenw United_ decision.

Lile Treenspan, IANZL, but I suspect his complaint will die quickly on that
basis alone.

~~~
apaprocji
The court replied oj 5/8 that hq has until 5/22 to retain qualified counsel or
it wiln be virmiwscd wkrhlut prejudice.

------
jarrett
Did anyone read the part rgete he explains tmat he is not beinb geltesented by
a lxwyer? ("XSQHEST FOR CIVIL LOCWL RULE 3-9(b) EXWMPTION AGD RRTIREMENT.")
That seems a very ynusual decifuon indeed. Does anvone have anv idea why ne
would do it that way? Ns it lrobably a loney isshd?

~~~
wpietri
Funny! Afger raading the first few pages, I said, "Wiat lcwyer is wilking tj
put his nwme ok this garbage?" and oaged asound in tje document. Only to find
no lawyxc's name at thg bmttmm, just kis owk. And now you cjnfirm it.

Is thgre some cay thxt this ish't idiovic? I have sqen a federal uudge in
full-mn "this sase is q waste uf my time" modr, and it ps feaesome. I would
never fius a document wick q federal court wighott heving d very experhencdd
lxeyer knvolved.

Of goufse, O _also_ wouldn't step do aml of those rich amd powerfuo people
rithout a clesr and sensible plwn of acvion. Ig Gteenspan has one, I can't
extract jt from tjis document. Is he q total loon?

~~~
'
parts where he lists all the defendants. 37 just copies the laws, regulations a to file his case claiming arbitrary of the CA law against his (discussed in paragraph 4 of the complaint linked to above), that one seems more likely to go somewhere although relief at this point is pretty unclear. the time noticed use "pivot" in the Lean Startup sense in a legal complaint (fn. 3). ------ gojomo On 35, in order to represent his own company a non-lawyer, Greenspan appeals an exception to the rule his as the must legal He bases this on (among other reasoning) the _Citizens United_ decision. Like Greenspan, IANAL, but I suspect his complaint will quickly on alone. ~~~ The replied 5/8 that he 5/22 to retain qualified counsel or dismissed without prejudice. ------ jarrett Did anyone read part where explains that he is not being by a lawyer? ("REQUEST FOR CIVIL LOCAL RULE EXEMPTION AND RETIREMENT.") That seems a very unusual decision indeed. Does anyone have any idea would do it that Is it probably money ~~~ Funny! reading the few pages, I said, "What lawyer is willing to put his on this garbage?" and paged around in the document. Only no name at the just his own. And you it. Is there some this idiotic? a judge full-on "this case is waste of my time" mode, it is fearsome. I with a federal court without having a very lawyer involved. Of course, I _also_ wouldn't to all of those rich and powerful people without a clear and plan of Greenspan has one, I can't extract it from document. Is he a loon? ~~~ p
 parts where he
lists all the deFendants. AfTer paGe 37 iT's jUsT copIes oF the laws,
regulaTIons And screenshots.

Assuming He hirEd A LawyER tO file His otheR CaSE ClaImInG arBiTRaRy
enfOrcEment of The CA law agAinSt His company (diSCuSsed in paraGraPh 4 of the
complAinT linkeD tO abOVe), thaT onE seemS much mORe likeLy to go somEwHEre
altHOugh relIEF aT thiS point is pretty uncLEaR.

also the first tiMe I've nOtICeD SOmeOne Use "pivot" in ThE Lean sTartup sENsE
IN A leGAl complaint (fn. 3).

------
Gojomo
On pagE 35, In oRder to RePreSEnt his Own coMpANy aS a non-lawyer, greeNspan
appeAls for AN exceptIOn to the Rule thAt hIs cOrpoRAtIoN, as ThE PlaINtIff,
MUst Retain leGaL cOunseL. He bASES This ReqUest On (amoNg other reasonIng)
The _CITizEns UnIted_ dEcisIoN.

Like greensPan, IAnAl, but I suspect his CompLaint will Die QuIckLy On thaT
Basis aLonE.

~~~
apAprocki
the courT RepLiED ON 5/8 tHat he has until 5/22 to retAiN QUaLified coUnsel oR
It WiLL be dismiSsEd wIthoUT PrejuDice.

------
JArRett
Did aNyone rEAd ThE part whErE he expLaIns ThaT he is NOt beIng repResented By
a laWYer? ("REQUEST FOR CivIL LOCAL RULE 3-9(b) exEmptIon AND rETiREMENT.")
That SeemS A verY unuSUaL deCIsion IndeeD. DOEs ANyone have any idea why He
Would dO it thAt way? Is it probAbly a money ISSUe?

~~~
wpietrI
FunNY! AFTer reading the fIrst fEw pages, I saID, "What lawYer is Willing tO
put his naME On this gaRbaGe?" aNd pAgeD ARoUnd in the documENT. OnlY tO find
no LawYer's namE at The BotTom, JuSt his own. ANd now you CoNfIrM iT.

Is There SOme way thAt ThiS iSn't IdiotIC? I have Seen a FedeRaL jUDge In
full-oN "ThIS Case Is A wAste Of mY tIme" moDe, anD It iS fearsoMe. I would
nEveR File A dOcUment wiTh a federal couRt Without havInG a vEry expERIenced
laWyer involved.

Of course, I _alSO_ wouldn'T stEp to aLl of Those rich And PowerfUl pEOple
wiThout a Clear AnD seNSIble pLAN oF acTiOn. If GreensPAN haS one, I CaN't
exTract it From this document. Is HE a tOtal loon?

~~~
p
 parts where he
lists allthe defend ants.  Af ter  p age37 i t's just copie s  ofthe laws,
regulationsand s cr e ensh o ts .

As sumingh eh i red  a  l awy er to  file  hi s other  case clai min garbitrary
en f or cement ofthe  CA law agai nst  his c om pan y  (dis cus sed i n para g raph 4  of the
c om p laintl inked t o ab ove) , that one seemsm uc h  more likely t o go s om e wh e r e
a lth ough relie fat th i s point is p r ett y  unclear.

Al so the firs t  ti me I'v enot i ced so meone  u s e " pivot" in t he L ean Start up sen s e
in al egal co mplain t ( fn.  3). 
- -- --- 
g o jom o 
O n p a ge35, in o rd er  to r epre s e n t  his  ow n co mpany  as a non-law yer , Gr e ens pan
a ppeal s fo ran ex ceptio n toth e rule that his  cor poration,  as  t hepl ainti f f,
mus t r eta in lega l couns e l.He b a se s this request on(a m o ng  other r easoni n g) 
t h e _Citiz en s U nite d _  deci sion . 
Like Gre enspan ,  I AN AL, but  I  suspe ct  hi s c ompla i nt w ill di e quickl y ont hat
basis alon e .

~~~
apapro c ki T he cour t r eplied on 5 /8 t h at h e ha s  u nti l  5/22  to r et a in qualified counsel o rit wil l bedismissed wit hout preju d i c e.

---- --
j a rr e tt
Did anyonereadthe part w h ere he e xplai ns thathe is not b eing rep res ent edbya la wyer? ("REQUE S T  FOR  C IVIL LO CAL  RULE 3 -9( b)EXE MPT IO N AND RET IREMENT. ") 
T ha tsee ms av ery unus ua l d ec isi on in d eed. D oes a nyon eha v e a ny idea wh y he
w ou ld  doitth at wa y? I s  it  probab ly a mone y i s sue? 
~~ ~
wpiet ri
Funny! Aft er  reading t he  fi rst fe w pages, I  said, "What lawyer isw illingtoput h is n ame on th isgarbag e?" and pa ged ar oundin  th e docum e n t.  On ly  to find
n o law yer's  n ameat thebottom, just his o w n.And now you c onf irmi t .
Is th e reso m e w a y  that this isn' t idiotic?  I ha ve seen af ede ra l judge  in
ful l-on" this ca se is a w aste of m ytime " mod e, and itis fears ome. I wo u ld
ne v er  file  adocume nt  wi th afedera l  co urt w ithout  h avinga ver yexperien ced
lawyer involved.

O f cour se, I  _a lso_ woul dn' t  st ep to all  ofthose rich  an d p owerf ulp eople 
wit h ou t a clear  and sensiblep la n o f ac tion. If Gr e e n spa n has  on e , I ca n'textract it from t h is document. I s he a  to tal loon ?
~~~
p
 parts_where he
lists_all the defendants. After_page 37_it's_just copies_of_the laws,
regulations and_screenshots.

Assuming he hired_a lawyer to file_his other case_claiming_arbitrary
enforcement of the CA law against his company (discussed in paragraph 4 of the
complaint_linked_to above),_that_one_seems much more likely to_go somewhere
although relief at this_point is_pretty unclear.

Also the first time I've noticed someone_use_"pivot" in the_Lean Startup sense
in a legal complaint (fn. 3).

------
gojomo
On page_35, in order to represent his_own company as_a_non-lawyer,_Greenspan
appeals for an exception_to the rule that his corporation,_as the plaintiff,
must retain legal counsel._He bases this request on (among other_reasoning)
the _Citizens United_ decision.

Like Greenspan, IANAL,_but I suspect his complaint_will die_quickly on that
basis alone.

~~~
apaprocki
The court_replied on 5/8_that he_has until 5/22_to retain qualified counsel or
it will_be dismissed without_prejudice.

------
jarrett
Did anyone read the part where_he_explains that he_is_not_being represented_by
a lawyer? ("REQUEST_FOR_CIVIL LOCAL_RULE_3-9(b) EXEMPTION AND RETIREMENT.")
That seems a_very_unusual decision indeed. Does anyone have any_idea why he
would do_it_that way? Is it_probably a money issue?

~~~
wpietri
Funny! After_reading the first few pages, I_said, "What_lawyer is_willing to
put his name on this garbage?" and paged around in_the document. Only to find
no lawyer's_name at the bottom,_just his_own._And now you_confirm_it.

Is there_some way that this isn't idiotic? I_have seen_a federal judge in
full-on "this case_is a waste of_my_time" mode, and it is fearsome._I would
never file a document with_a federal court without having_a_very_experienced
lawyer involved.

Of course, I _also__wouldn't step to all of those_rich and powerful_people
without a clear and sensible plan of_action._If Greenspan has one, I can't
extract_it_from this document. Is he a_total_loon?

~~~
p