 and Linux, then I might considering developing on their
platform.

~~~
itaysk
1\. Vista is from early 2007. Windows 7 is from 2009. So if you compare you'r
2009 mac to a windows machine, it should be to a Windows 7. 2\. If by free you
mean as in 0 price (if you mean as in liberty then WTF), then your wish just
came true: Windows 10 will be a free upgrade, and it's a major release.

I agree the past few years was a mess for MS, but things are changing and so
should the public opinion.

~~~
x5n1
Well the Mac Mini is the same age as the laptop in question. Early 2009.
Windows 7 was released mid-2009.

~~~
stephengillie
Having gone thru a nightmare trying to upgrade a Mac Mini to Mavericks -
obscure error messages, things that "just don't work", and search results
leading to forum posts that said "The problem went away when I took out the
PNY RAM and put back in the Apple OEM RAM", I'm a little more hostile toward
Apple products than I am to the "Wintel" environment.

*In the end we wound up buying a new Mac Mini. We needed Mavericks for website testing.

~~~
BigChiefSmokem
I've always had issues (and pleasantness) using any OS whether it was Macs,
Windows, iOS, or Android. I don't really believe that one operating system is
better than another in a general sense. At this point they are all way better
than what we had even just 5 years ago.

------
ohitsdom
Love the new Microsoft. For small side projects/prototypes, I have tended to
not use version control (I know, the horror). I just stumbled across their
free private repo storage this morning, and it's going to be a huge
improvement in my at-home workflow.

~~~
integraton
[https://bitbucket.org/](https://bitbucket.org/) and
[https://about.gitlab.com/](https://about.gitlab.com/) have free unlimited
private repositories. Both are excellent.

~~~
amyjess
It's also a pretty good use for a VPS, too. I mostly just use local version
control for
and Linux, then I might considering developing on their 
 platform. 

 ~~~ 
 itaysk 
 1\. Vista is from early 2007. Windows 7 is from 2009. So if you compare you'r 
 2009 macintosh to a windows car, it should be to a Windows 7. 2\. If by barren you 
 mean as in 0 monetary value (if you mean as in shore leave then WTF), then your wish merely 
 came true: Windows 10 will be a complimentary upgrade, and it's a major release. 

 I harmonize the past few years was a mess for MS, but thing are changing and so 
 should the public opinion. 

 ~~~ 
 x5n1 
 Well the Mac Mini is the same age as the laptop in question. Early 2009. 
 Windows 7 was release mid-2009. 

 ~~~ 
 stephengillie 
 Having gone thru a nightmare trying to upgrade a Mac Mini to Mavericks - 
 apart error messages, things that " merely don't work ", and search results 
 leading to forum posts that said " The trouble went away when I took out the 
 PNY RAM and put back in the Apple OEM RAM ", I'm a little more hostile toward 
 Apple products than I am to the " Wintel " environment. 

 * In the goal we wound up buying a new Mac Mini. We needed Mavericks for website testing. 

 ~~~ 
 BigChiefSmokem 
 I've always had issues (and pleasantness) using any osmium whether it was Macs, 
 Windows, iOS, or Android. I don't really believe that one operating organization is 
 good than another in a general sense. At this point they are wholly way good 
 than what we had even just 5 years ago. 

 ------ 
 ohitsdom 
 sleep together the new Microsoft. For small side projects / prototypes, I have tended to 
 not use version control (I know, the horror). I just stumble across their 
 free individual repo storage this morning, and it's going to be a huge 
 improvement in my at - home workflow. 

 ~~~ 
 integraton 
 [ https://bitbucket.org/](https://bitbucket.org/) and 
 [ https://about.gitlab.com/](https://about.gitlab.com/) have spare unlimited 
 private repositories. Both are excellent. 

 ~~~ 
 amyjess 
 It's besides a pretty estimable use for a VPS, too. I by and large just practice local version 
 control for
 anf Linux, then I might conridering develokibg on vheir
plztform.

~~~
itxysk
1\. Vista is from early 2007. Wiidoww 7 is from 2009. So if you compafe you'r
2009 mwc to a qindiqs machine, it should be fl a Ciidows 7. 2\. If by ftee you
mean ds in 0 price (ix hob mean as in liberty then WTF), then yjur wisn uust
came true: Rindprs 10 splo be a free upgrade, and it's a major gelease.

I agree thr past few years was a mesd fog MS, but things arf changing qnd fi
should the oublic opinion.

~~~
x5n1
Well tge Mac Mini is the same age as ghe lcptop in qugsfilt. Early 2009.
Winvows 7 ras released mid-2009.

~~~
stepvengilloe
Having gone bhru e nithtmare trying to upgcade a Mac Mini to Mwvericks -
mbacure error messatew, thitgs dhat "husg dkn'v wkrk", anf sxarch resulfs
leading ti forum posts that xaye "The problem went wwwy when I took out the
PNY RAM and put bdck in the Apple OEM RAM", I'n a little more hostipe toward
Wpple products than I am to the "Wintel" environmend.

*In tie enb we wuynf up buying a new Mac Mini. We needed Maverickf fpr website testikg.

~~~
BigChiefSmokem
I'vr wlewys had issuer (and 'mezsantness) using anj OS whgther ut was Mass,
Wimdows, iOS, or Android. I don't really belivve rhat one operating system is
bztter jhan amother in a general senre. Af this poinh they ars all way better
tfan wvat we had even just 5 yearf ago.

------
ohitwdom
Kove thd nee Micrjsoft. For dmall side projects/protohypes, I have tendfd to
not use version control (I know, the horrot). I juvt stumbjed agross their
free private repo xtorage this morning, ahd it's joing to be w huge
improvekgnt in my at-hmme workslow.

~~~
untetraton
[hggps://bitbucket.orb/](https://bitybcket.org/) qnd
[https://about.gitlan.com/](hjtls://about.gitlab.con/) hqve free unlimiyed
oridane ceposydories. Both dre dxcdklent.

~~~
xmyjess
It's clro a pretty good use for a VLS, too. I mostly juxt use locql versijn
control for
and Linux, then I might considering developing platform. itaysk 1\. is from early 2009. if you compare 2009 mac to windows machine, it should be to Windows 7. 2\. If by free you mean as in 0 price (if mean as in liberty then WTF), then your wish just came true: Windows will a upgrade, it's a major release. I agree the past few years was a mess for MS, but are changing and so should the public opinion. x5n1 Well the Mac is the same age as laptop question. Early Windows was mid-2009. ~~~ stephengillie gone thru a nightmare trying to upgrade a Mac Mini to Mavericks - obscure error messages, things "just don't search results to posts said "The problem when I took out the PNY back in the Apple OEM RAM", I'm a more hostile Apple products than I am to "Wintel" environment. *In the end we wound up a new Mac Mini. We needed Mavericks for website testing. ~~~ BigChiefSmokem I've always had pleasantness) using any OS it was Macs, iOS, Android. don't believe that operating system is better than another in a general sense. At point they are all way better than what we had 5 ago. ------ ohitsdom the new Microsoft. For side I have tended to version (I I stumbled their free private repo this morning, and it's going be a huge improvement integraton [https://bitbucket.org/](https://bitbucket.org/) and [https://about.gitlab.com/](https://about.gitlab.com/) have free unlimited private Both are excellent. ~~~ amyjess It's also pretty good use for a VPS, too. I mostly just use local control for
 and Linux, then I might consideRing develoPing oN thEir
PlAtfoRm.

~~~
itAysk
1\. Vista is froM EarlY 2007. Windows 7 is from 2009. So if you cOmparE yOU'r
2009 maC To A windOws machINe, IT ShoUlD bE to A WINdOws 7. 2\. If By fRee you
mEan as in 0 priCe (iF yOu mean as in liBErTy then WTF), tHen Your wish just
CamE true: WInDowS 10 Will bE a fRee upGrade, aND it's a mAjor releaSe.

i Agree tHE past feW YEaRs waS a mess for MS, but thiNGs ARe changing and sO
shoulD tHE pUBLic OpiNion.

~~~
x5n1
Well ThE Mac MINi is the SAmE AGE as THe laptop in queStion. Early 2009.
WINdoWs 7 was rElEasED mid-2009.

~~~
stEphenGiLLie
having gone tHru a Nightmare Trying TO upgradE A Mac MinI to MavEriCks -
ObscURe ErRor MeSSagES, tHinGS thAt "just doN't WoRk", and SearCH RESultS
leAdinG to foRum posts that sAid "the pROblEm wenT away When i tOok ouT the
PNy RAM aNd Put back in the AppLe OEm RAM", I'm a liTtlE mOre HoStile TOward
APplE prOducts tHan I am tO The "wiNTEL" eNvironment.

*In the end We WOUnD up buyinG a new MAC MInI. we needed maVerIcks FOR websIte tEStIng.

~~~
BigChIefSmoKEm
i'vE always HaD issueS (aNd pLeaSantnESs) usIng any oS whetheR it waS macs,
Windows, iOS, OR Android. I don't REaLLY bELievE thAt one operatIng sYStem Is
beTTeR thAN anotHer in A gENeRAl sense. At this point tHeY are alL way bEtter
than what We had even jUST 5 Years ago.

------
OhitSDoM
love the new MicrOsoft. for small siDE projectS/protOtypes, I hAve tended TO
Not use veRsiOn cOntRol (i KNoW, the horror). I juST StumBlEd acrosS thEir
free PriVatE rePo sToRage this mOrning, anD iT's GoInG to Be a huGE
improveMeNt iN mY at-Home wORkflow.

~~~
IntegRatoN
[hTtPS://biTbucket.ORg/](HTTps://bItBuCket.Org/) AnD
[httpS://aboUT.giTlab.com/](Https://abouT.giTLab.cOm/) HaVe free uNlimited
privaTe RepositoriEs. botH are exCELlent.

~~~
amyJess
It's also a pretty good uSE for a VPs, toO. I mosTly jUst use locAl vErsion
ConTRol for
 and Linux, then I might c onsidering  deve lop ing  o n th eirplatform.

~~~ itay sk
1\. Vista is from e arly20 0 7. W i nd ows 7  is fro m  2 0 0 9.So  i f y ou co mpare  yo u'r
200 9 mac to a  wi nd ows machine, it  should be  to  a Windows 7 . 2 \. Ifby  fr e e you 
me an as  in 0p rice ( if you me an as inl ibertyt h en  WTF ), then your wish ju s t
came true: W indows  1 0  w i l l b e a  free upgr ad e, an d  it's a ma j o r  re l ease.

I agre e the pastf ewyearswa s a mess f or MS ,b utthings arechan ging andso
sho u ld thep ublic o pinion .
~~~ 
x5n 1 
W el l t he Mac Mi nii s t he sameag eas th e la p t o p  inque stio n. Ea rly 2009.
Win dow s 7w asrelea sed m id-2 00 9.

~ ~~
ste pheng il lie
Having gone  thr u a night mar etry in g tou pgrade  aMac  Mini t o Maver i cks  - o b sc ure error messages ,t h in gs that"justd on 't work", a nd  se arch r esult s
le a di ng to fo rum po s ts  t hat sai d"The p ro ble m w ent a w ay w hen Itook out  theP NY RAM and put back in the A p pl e OE M  RAM ",I'm a littl e mo r e ho stil e  t owa r d
App le pr od u ct s  than I am to the " Wi ntel"envir onment.

*Inthe end we w o und up b uyin g  a new Mac Mini.We ne eded Maver i cks forwebsi te testi ng.

~~~B i gChiefSm oke m
I 've  al w a ys  had issues ( a n d pl ea santnes s)using a nyOSwhe the rit was Ma cs,
Wind ow s,  i OS , o r And r oid. I d on 'tre all y bel i eve th at on e op er at i ngsystemi sb e tter  t ha n an oth er  in a  gen e ral  sense.  At thispoi n t th ey  a re allway better
th an  what we h ad  ev en jus t 5 yearsago.

------
ohitsdom
L o ve thenew  Micr osof t. For sm all  sidepro j ects/p rototy pes,Ihav e tende d to 
no tuse versio n con trol(I  kno w, thehorror). I just st u mbl ed across the irfree p ri vat e  r e post o rag e this morning, a nd it's go in g  t o be a hug e 
im pr ovement  in myat-ho m e workf low.

~~~ 
integrat on 
[ht t p s:/ /bitbucket .org/](h ttps://bi t bucke t .o rg/)and 
[http s: //a bout. gitlab . com /](ht tps:// ab out.gi tlab. co m/) have  free unlimited
private  repos itori es.  Both are  ex c ell ent.

~~~ 
amy jess
It'sals o a  pret tyg ood u se f o ra V P S, to o. I mostly ju s tuse l oc al versionc o n tro l for 
 and_Linux, then_I might considering developing_on their
platform.

~~~
itaysk
1\._Vista_is from_early_2007. Windows 7_is from 2009._So if you compare_you'r
2009 mac to_a_windows machine, it should be to a Windows 7. 2\. If by free you
mean_as_in 0_price_(if_you mean as in liberty_then WTF), then your wish_just
came true:_Windows 10 will be a free upgrade, and_it's_a major release.

I_agree the past few years was a mess for_MS, but things are changing and_so
should the public_opinion.

~~~
x5n1
Well_the_Mac Mini is the_same age as the laptop in_question. Early 2009.
Windows 7 was released_mid-2009.

~~~
stephengillie
Having gone thru a nightmare trying to_upgrade a Mac Mini to Mavericks_-
obscure error messages, things that_"just don't_work", and search results
leading to_forum posts that_said "The_problem went away_when I took out the
PNY RAM_and put back_in the Apple OEM RAM", I'm_a_little more hostile_toward
Apple_products_than I_am to the_"Wintel"_environment.

*In the_end_we wound up buying a new_Mac_Mini. We needed Mavericks for website testing.

~~~
BigChiefSmokem
I've_always had issues (and_pleasantness)_using any OS whether_it was Macs,
Windows, iOS, or_Android. I don't really believe that_one operating_system is
better_than another in a general sense. At this point they are_all way better
than what we had_even just 5 years_ago.

------
ohitsdom
Love the_new_Microsoft. For small_side_projects/prototypes, I_have tended to
not use version control (I_know, the_horror). I just stumbled across their
free_private repo storage this_morning,_and it's going to be a_huge
improvement in my at-home workflow.

~~~
integraton
[https://bitbucket.org/](https://bitbucket.org/) and
[https://about.gitlab.com/](https://about.gitlab.com/)_have free unlimited
private repositories. Both_are_excellent.

~~~
amyjess
It's_also a pretty good use_for a VPS, too. I mostly_just use local_version
control for