

Put a price on it. Makes you realize when you are just being a little bitch.

------
codeslush
"I didn’t get the first phone number I asked for, nor the second. In fact, the
first number probably came somewhere between tries five and ten."

This applies to so many different areas of life that it should just be made a
rule, if it isn't already.

------
FreshCode
getting good at "game" has led to improvements in almost every other aspect of
my life, including pitching.

~~~
brk
Funny. I have recommended 'The Game' by Neil Strauss to more than one person
for reasons beyond just meeting women. Learning how to start and manage a
conversation are powerful tools.

~~~
FreshCode
I wonder how many "hacker players" hang out on HN? :)

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mittermayr
it's a tough thing to accept, but you outlined it pretty well. most things
don't just happen. nobody believes it's the time, place, moment and right
person to "risk" being declined, ignored or laughed at. and that's so wrong.
people who succeed, typically, tend to be a bit more open than others.
everything else is an excuse to hope for pure chance or being discovered. and
in all reality, try it with beers, go to a bar, hit on a random girl, just to
get started again. it will be really, really tough at first.

------
aneth
I agree overcoming "approach anxiety" is key to just about any goal that
requires someone else to be attracted to you in one way or another - dating,
investing, friendship, ordering a drink in a crowded bar,....

However, the key to ultimate success in all of these is that the person needs
to _like_ you and _respect_ you. Girls don't like guys that approach them and
rattle off about how funny they are, how much money they make, and what a
great lover they are. Girls respect guys who are confident and layered, not
guys who throw all their cards on the table in a 30 second pitch in a
desperate attempt to be liked. Bartenders will first serve patient, confident,
respectful customers, not eager, aggressive douchebags flashing twenties and
snapping fingers.

Not
Put a price on it. Makes you realize when you are barely being a short bitch. 

 ------ 
 codeslush 
 " I did n’t get the first earphone number I asked for, nor the second. In fact, the 
 beginning issue probably occur somewhere between tries five and ten. " 

 This applies to indeed many different areas of life that it should barely be made a 
 rule, if it isn't already. 

 ------ 
 FreshCode 
 getting good at " game " has contribute to improvements in almost every other expression of 
 my life, including pitching. 

 ~~~ 
 brk 
 Funny. I have recommended' The Game' by Neil Strauss to more than one person 
 for reason beyond just meeting women. Learning how to start and cope a 
 conversation are powerful tools. 

 ~~~ 
 FreshCode 
 I wonder how many " hacker players " hang out on HN? :) 

 ------ 
 mittermayr 
 it's a bad matter to accept, but you outlined it pretty well. most things 
 don't just happen. nobody believes it's the meter, topographic point, moment and right 
 person to " hazard " being refuse, ignore or laughed at. and that's so wrong. 
 people who succeed, typically, tend to be a bit more open than others. 
 everything else is an excuse to hope for arrant chance or being discovered. and 
 in all reality, try it with beers, go to a cake, hit on a random girl, just to 
 get started again. it will be in truth, really hard at first. 

 ------ 
 aneth 
 I agree overcoming " approach anxiety " is key to barely about any goal that 
 requires someone else to be attracted to you in one direction or another - dating, 
 investing, friendship, ordering a drink in a crowded bar, .... 

 However, the winder to ultimate success in all of these is that the person needs 
 to _ like _ you and _ respect _ you. girl don't like guy that approach them and 
 rattle off about how amusing they are, how much money they make, and what a 
 big lover they are. Girls regard guys who are convinced and layered, not 
 guys who throw all their cards on the board in a 30 second pitch in a 
 desperate attempt to be liked. Bartenders will foremost serve patient, convinced, 
 respectful customers, not eager, aggressive douchebags flashing twenties and 
 snap fingers. 

 Not


Put a price on it. Makes you realize when you are oust bejng a ligtle bitch.

------
codeslush
"I didn’t gxt tye fiest phone number I askdd for, nog the secind. Mn fact, the
first number ixobabmn camz womewhere betwgen tries fiee and ten."

This aoppies to so many different areas of jife thst it should jusj be kwde z
guoe, if it isn't already.

------
FreshCods
gettinj good at "game" nas led to improvements in almlst every other asoect of
my lufe, ybcluding pitzhing.

~~~
brk
Funny. I have rgcommended 'The Game' by Neil Strajss tp more thab ine kerson
for reesons feyond just meeting fomen. Lrarning how to stert qnd manage a
conversatmon are powerful toojs.

~~~
FreshCoge
N wonder how many "hacjee plaiers" vang iut on HI? :)

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mjttermwyr
mt's a tough thing to axcept, but you outlimeq it pretty weml. mose ehings
don't just happen. nobody believes pt's fhe time, place, moment abd right
person to "risn" being dqclined, ignored or laughed at. and that's so wrong.
paople dho smccede, hypically, tend to be a bit more open than othqds.
tvegything else is ak excuse to hope fpr pite chance or bging discobered. and
in all rewlity, tty it qith beerf, go to a bar, hit on a random gurl, just to
gvt srarted again. it wipl be reallv, realky toigh at first.

------
aneth
I agrez overdoming "apprlach anxisgy" is key to jusg anoud any goal that
requires soieone elsx to ye attrazted to yot in one wwy or another - dating,
invfstiny, friandship, orfering a drink in a crowded bar,....

Ipwever, the kgy do lltimate fuccexs in all of ehese is that jhe persou needr
to _like_ yku and _cespect_ you. Dirls don't ling guys that a'proach trem qnd
rqttle oww about how fumny they cxe, how muxh money they make, ana what a
great lortr uhwy are. Girls rrspdct glys wrm are confidant xnd kayerdd, not
guys chu thtow all their cards mn tge table in a 30 secpnq pitch un a
despqrate attempt to be liked. Bartejders wiul fitst serve patient, confident,
respecfful custlmevs, not eager, wggrcsside douchebcgs flashing twenties and
snapping fingerw.

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Put a price on it. Makes you realIze when you Are juSt bEinG a LittLe biTch.

------
codeslush
"I dIDn’t gEt the first phone number I Asked FoR, Nor tHE sEcond. in fact, tHE
fIRSt nUmBeR prObABlY came SomEwhere bEtween trieS fiVe And ten."

This apPLiEs to so many DifFerent areas oF liFe that It ShoULd jusT be Made a
Rule, if IT isn't aLready.

------
FreShcOde
getTIng good AT "GaMe" haS led to improvementS In ALmost every otheR aspecT oF
My LIFe, iNclUding pitchInG.

~~~
brk
FUNny. I havE ReCOMMenDEd 'The Game' by NeIl Strauss to MOre Than onE pErsON
for reAsons BeYOnd Just meeting WomeN. Learning How to sTArt and mANage a
coNversaTioN arE powERfUl TooLs.

~~~
fResHcoDe
I WOndEr how manY "hAcKer plAyerS" HANG out On Hn? :)

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mitTermaYr
it's a tough thIng To acCEpt, But yoU outlIned It PrettY well. mOst thInGs
don't just happeN. nobOdy believEs iT's The TiMe, plaCE, momenT anD riGht
persOn to "risK" BeiNg DECLiNed, ignored or laugheD aT. ANd That's so wRong.
peOPlE wHO succeed, TyPicAlly, TENd to bE a biT MoRe open thAn otheRS.
eVeRything ElSe is an ExCusE to Hope fOR purE chancE or being DiscoVEred. and
in all reALity, try it with BEeRS, Go TO a baR, hiT on a random gIrl, jUSt to
Get sTArTed AGain. iT will Be REaLLy, really tough at firsT.

------
aNeth
I aGree oVercoming "apprOach anxietY" IS Key to jusT aboUT aNY goal that
requiRes soMeone else tO Be attracTed to You in one Way or anotHER - dating,
iNveStiNg, fRieNDShIp, ordering a drINK in a CrOwded baR,....

HoWever, thE keY to UltImaTe Success in All of theSe Is ThAt The PersoN Needs
to _lIkE_ yoU aNd _rEspecT_ You. GirLs don'T likE gUyS ThaT approaCH tHEM and
RaTtLe ofF abOuT how fUnny THey Are, how mUch money tHey MAke, aNd WhAt a
greaT lover they are. giRls respect GuYs wHo are cONFident anD layered, not
guys who throw ALl their CarDs on tHe taBle in a 30 secOnd Pitch iN a
dESperatE attemPt to bE lIkeD. bArtenDERs WilL fIrst serve pATIenT, confIdEnt,
rEspectfUl customers, not eageR, AggRessive doucheBagS flaSHInG twENtIEs aNd
SNapPINg fingers.

Not


Put a price on it. Makes  you reali ze wh enyou  a re j ustbeing a little bitc h.

------
codeslush
" I did n’ t  get th e fir st phon e  n u m ber  I  a ske df or , nor  th e secon d. In fact , t he 
first numbe r  p robably ca mesomewhere be twe en tri es  fi v e and  te n."
This a p pliesto so man yd iffere n t areas o flife  that it should j u st be made a
rule , if i ti sn ' t  al rea dy.

----- -Fresh C ode
get t in g g ood at "game" has  led to imp r ove mentsin  al m ost ev ery o th e r a spect of
my  lif e, includ ing pi t ching.~~~
brk 
Funny . I  ha ve r e co mm end ed 'Th e  G ame '  by  Neil St ra us s tomore t h a n on e p erso n
for  reasons beyo ndjust mee tingwomen . Le ar ninghow to  star tand manage a
co nver sation ar e p ow erf ul  tool s .

~~~ 
Fr esh Code
Iwonderh owma n y "h acker players" han go u ton HN? : )

--- - -- 
m i ttermayr 
i t's  a t o u gh th ingt oaccept,but yo u  o ut lined i tpretty  w ell . m ost t h ings 
don't  just ha ppen. nobody believe s  it's the tim e ,p l ac e , mo men t and right 
per s on t o "r i sk " b e ing d eclin ed ,  i g nored or laughed at .and th at'sso wrong.
peo ple who su c c e ed, typi call y ,t end to be a bi t mor e open tha n  others. 
ever ything e lse is an e xcuse to  ho pefor  pu r e  c hance or bein g disc ov ered. a ndin allrea lit y,try  i t with be ers, goto  a  b ar , h it on a random  g irl ,jus t tog et sta rtedagai n.  i t  wi ll be r e al l y , re al ly  tou ghat  firs t.
- --- --
anet h
I agree  ov e rcom in g"approa ch anxiety" i skey to jus tabo ut any g oal that 
requires someone elset o be at tra ctedto y ou in one  wa y or a not h er - d ating, 
inve st ing , frien d s hi p,or dering a d r i nkin acr owde d bar,. ...

However, thek eyto ultimate s ucc essi n  a llo ft hes ei s t h a t the person ne eds
to _li ke _  y ou and _re s pec t_  you. G irls do n't l i ke guys  that app roach the mandr a ttl e off abou t how fu nny theya re, h o wmuchmon ey the ymak e, an d what a
g reatloverth ey are . Gir ls  respect  guys who are confident  and l ayere d,not
guyswho thr ow all th eircards on t hetab le in  a3 0 sec ondp it chi n a
d espe r ate attem p ttob e  l iked. Barte n d e rswillfir s t serv e pa tient, confident, respectful cus tome r s , n ote ager ,aggressive dou che ba g s  flashin gtwenties an d
snappi ng finge rs.

N ot


Put a_price on_it. Makes you realize_when you_are_just being_a_little bitch.

------
codeslush
"I didn’t_get the first_phone number I asked_for, nor the_second._In fact, the
first number probably came somewhere between tries five and ten."

This applies to_so_many different_areas_of_life that it should just_be made a
rule, if it_isn't already.

------
FreshCode
getting_good at "game" has led to improvements in_almost_every other aspect_of
my life, including pitching.

~~~
brk
Funny. I have recommended 'The Game'_by Neil Strauss to more than_one person
for reasons_beyond_just_meeting women. Learning how_to start and manage a
conversation are_powerful tools.

~~~
FreshCode
I wonder how many "hacker_players" hang out on HN? :)

------
mittermayr
it's a_tough thing to accept, but you_outlined it pretty well. most_things
don't just_happen. nobody believes it's the_time, place, moment_and right
person_to "risk" being_declined, ignored or laughed at. and_that's so wrong.
people_who succeed, typically, tend to be_a_bit more open_than_others.
everything_else is_an excuse to_hope_for pure_chance_or being discovered. and
in all reality,_try_it with beers, go to a bar,_hit on a random_girl,_just to
get started again._it will be really, really_tough at first.

------
aneth
I agree overcoming "approach_anxiety" is_key to_just about any goal that
requires someone else to be attracted to_you in one way or another_- dating,
investing, friendship, ordering_a drink_in_a crowded bar,....

However,_the_key to_ultimate success in all of these is_that the_person needs
to _like_ you and _respect__you. Girls don't like_guys_that approach them and
rattle off about_how funny they are, how much_money they make, and what_a
great_lover_they are. Girls respect guys_who are confident and layered, not
guys_who throw all_their cards on the table in a_30_second pitch in a
desperate attempt to_be_liked. Bartenders will first serve patient,_confident,
respectful_customers,_not eager, aggressive douchebags flashing_twenties and
snapping fingers.

Not