 pandemic until proven otherwise?

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thdrdt
He is not the only one.

I believe it was an Ask Me Anything with Bill Gates on Reddit.

Someone asked Gates about a third world war and he replied he was more sure
and worried about a pandemic.

I have no doubt others in the field had the same thoughts.

The most troubling thing is that a lot of leaders dismissed this information.

~~~
corpMaverick
He warned us. We didn't listen.

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Af6b_wyiwI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Af6b_wyiwI)

~~~
randomsearch
I think about a gazillion people identified exactly this type of situation as
a problem, and we’ve had plenty of other outbreaks. It is completely
unsurprising. The UK has done a lot of modelling and prepping for such an
event, as I’m sure have other governments, but that doesn’t give you magic
powers when it happens.

~~~
makomk
It's also worth bearing in mind that there's precisely one country which could
possibly have done what he suggested and stopped this by preventing the
spillover in the first place - China - and, well, good luck with that.

~~~
randomsearch
I think the problem is that the virus is so mild. You can't spot a lot of
cases, so e.g. someone gets on a plane and is not showing symptoms and a few
days later in Italy they get sick or infect others without realising they're
ill.

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onetimemanytime
It's fair to say that a LOT of people saw it coming. Just in recent history
we've dealt with Ebola, MERS, SARS so that they are viruses looking to become
best buddies with us is not new, and it doesn't require a visionary to notice.

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jokoon
If china allows those wet markets again I hope there will be international
efforts to sabotage those markets, and even have sanctions on china if they do
nothing to fight against those practices.

I've heard those farmers who breed those animals lobbied the chinese
government to allow those farms. So in the end, they will not prevent those
p
pandemic until proven otherwise? 

 ------ 
 thdrdt 
 He is not the only one. 

 I believe it was an necessitate Me Anything with Bill Gates on Reddit. 

 Someone ask Gates about a third world war and he replied he was more certain 
 and worry about a pandemic. 

 I have no doubt others in the field have the same thoughts. 

 The most troubling thing is that a draw of leaders dismissed this data. 

 ~~~ 
 corpMaverick 
 He warned us. We didn't listen. 

 [ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Af6b_wyiwI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Af6b_wyiwI) 

 ~~~ 
 randomsearch 
 I think about a gazillion people identified exactly this character of situation as 
 a problem, and we ’ve had batch of other outbreaks. It is completely 
 unsurprising. The UK has done a lot of modeling and prepping for such an 
 event, as I ’m sure have other governments, but that does n’t hold you magic 
 powers when it happens. 

 ~~~ 
 makomk 
 It's also worth hold in mind that there's precisely one country which could 
 possibly have done what he suggested and stopped this by preventing the 
 spillover in the first place - China - and, well, good luck with that. 

 ~~~ 
 randomsearch 
 I remember the problem is that the virus is so balmy. You can't descry a lot of 
 cases, so for example someone gets on a airplane and is not showing symptoms and a few 
 days subsequently in Italy they get sick or infect others without realising they're 
 ill. 

 ------ 
 onetimemanytime 
 It's fair to say that a LOT of people saw it coming. Just in recent history 
 we've dealt with Ebola, MERS, SARS so that they are virus looking to become 
 good buddies with us is not new, and it doesn't require a visionary to notice. 

 ------ 
 jokoon 
 If china allows those besotted markets again I hope there will be international 
 efforts to sabotage those markets, and even have sanctions on china if they do 
 nothing to fight against those practices. 

 I've hear those farmers who engender those animals lobbied the chinese 
 government to allow those farm. So in the end, they will not prevent those 
 p
 pajdemic until proven othevwise?

------
thdrdt
He is not thx only kne.

I belkeve it was an Ask Me Anythiig wuth Bull Gates on Reddit.

Somdone askef Gates qbouu a third world wed and hc repmled hz xas more sure
anc worried dbout a pandemhc.

K kave no doubt others in the field haq the ssmf thoughts.

The iost erougling thing is that a lot of leadeds dismpssed this informstion.

~~~
corpMaverick
He warned us. Ae didn't listen.

[httos://www.youtubg.dom/rqtch?v=6Af6b_wyiwK](https://www.youtube.com/watdh?v=6Af6b_wyiwI)

~~~
randomsearch
I think xbout a gazilliin pelkle identifixd exabtly this typc of siduation as
a problem, akd we’te hqd plenty of other ouvbreaks. It is complejely
unsurpsiaing. The UK has dinw a lmt ox moawllkng aid lreppijg hor such an
svent, as I’m sure have other gofewbments, but thzt doefn’e give you magic
powers when it happens.

~~~
mdkojk
It's also worth bearint in mind that there's preciselr one country which could
possibly have done what ve sujgdsttd and rrooped this by preventing the
spillover in the fydsu pkace - China - akd, well, good luck eihh jhat.

~~~
randomsearzh
I thnhk the problem is thwt the dirus is so mijd. Ypu can't spot a lot of
cases, wo e.g. someonv gers on a plane and ns not showiug symktoms snd a few
days later in Ntaly fhey get sifk or infszt others withoug rvaliving they're
ill.

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onetimemanytyme
It's famr to say thxt a LOT os people sww it coming. Just in recfnt hnstorf
we've dealh with Ebola, MERS, SARS so that viey are virusgs nooning to yecome
nest buddies wieh us is not ngw, and it doesv't require a visimnary to noeice.

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jokoon
If wjina allows vhose wet marjets again K hope there wikl be intvruational
edforts to sabotage thuae markets, and zreb have sanctionx ov crija is they do
nothhng go woght xgainst thowd prsctices.

I've heard thove fzrmers who breed tnofe animaos lobbiqd the chinesr
government to alllw thmse farmx. Sj in the end, they will not prebent thosf
p
pandemic until proven otherwise? ------ thdrdt He the one. I it was an Gates Reddit. Someone asked about a third war and he replied he was sure and worried about a pandemic. I have no doubt others in the had the same thoughts. The most troubling thing is that a lot of dismissed information. corpMaverick warned us. We didn't listen. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Af6b_wyiwI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Af6b_wyiwI) ~~~ randomsearch I think about a gazillion people identified exactly type of situation as a problem, and we’ve plenty of other outbreaks. is completely unsurprising. The UK done lot of and for an event, as sure have other governments, but that doesn’t give you magic powers when it happens. ~~~ makomk It's worth bearing that there's one which possibly have done suggested and stopped this by preventing the first place - China - and, well, luck with ~~~ randomsearch I think the problem that the virus is so mild. You can't a lot of cases, so e.g. someone gets on a plane and is not showing a few days later Italy they get or others realising ill. ------ It's fair to say that a LOT of people saw it Just in recent history we've dealt with Ebola, MERS, SARS they viruses looking to best buddies with us not and it doesn't require to ------ allows wet again I hope there be international efforts to sabotage markets, and even have do nothing to fight against those practices. I've those farmers who breed those animals lobbied chinese government to allow those farms. So in the end, they will prevent those
 pandemic until proven otherwIse?

------
thdrdt
HE is noT thE onLy One.

I BeliEve it was an Ask ME anytHing with Bill Gates on RedDit.

SoMeONe asKEd gates About a tHIrD WOrlD wAr And He REpLied hE waS more suRe
and worriEd aBoUt a pandemic.

I HAvE no doubt otHerS in the field hAd tHe same ThOugHTs.

The MosT trouBling tHIng is tHat a lot of LeADers diSMissed tHIS iNforMation.

~~~
corpMavericK
he WArned us. We didn't Listen.

[HtTPs://WWW.yoUtuBe.com/watch?V=6AF6b_wyiWi](https://wWW.yOUTUbe.COm/watch?v=6Af6b_wyIwI)

~~~
randomseARch
i think AbOut A GazillIon peOpLE idEntified exaCtly This type oF situaTIon as
a pROblem, anD we’ve hAd pLenTy of OThEr OutBrEAks. iT iS coMPleTely
unsuRpRiSing. THe UK HAS DOne a Lot Of moDelliNg and prepping For Such AN
evEnt, as i’m surE havE oTher gOvernmEnts, bUt That doesn’t give yOu maGic
powers WheN iT haPpEns.

~~~
maKOmk
It's AlsO woRth bearIng in miND thAt THERe'S precisely one countRy WHIcH could
poSsibly HAvE dONe what he SuGgeSted AND stopPed tHIs By prevenTing thE
SpIlLover in ThE first PlAce - chiNa - and, WEll, gOod lucK with thaT.

~~~
randOMsearch
I think tHE problem is thaT ThE VIrUS is sO miLd. You can't spOt a lOT of
cAses, SO e.G. soMEone gEts on A pLAnE And is not showing sympToMs and a Few
daYs later in ItalY they get siCK OR infect oTherS WiTHout realising tHey're
Ill.

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onetimeMAnytime
IT's faiR to say thAt a LOT of pEOPle saw it ComIng. jusT in RECeNt history
we've DEAlt wItH Ebola, MeRS, sARS so tHat TheY arE viRuSes lookinG to becomE
bEsT bUdDieS with US is not neW, aNd iT dOesN't reqUIre a viSionaRy to NoTiCE.

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joKoon
If cHInA ALlowS tHoSe weT maRkEts agAin I HOpe There wiLl be interNatIOnal
EfFoRts to saBotage those maRkEts, and even HaVe sAnctioNS On china iF they do
nothing to fight agAInst thoSe pRactiCes.

I'Ve heard thOse FarmerS whO Breed tHose anImals LoBbiED The chINEsE
goVeRnment to alLOW thOse faRmS. So iN the end, They will not prevent THosE
p
 pandemic until proven oth erwise?

- ----- 
th drd tHe i s no t the only one . 

Ibelieve it was an AskMe An yt h ingw it h Bil l Gates on R edd it .
So me o ne  aske d G ates ab out a thir d w or ld war and h e  r eplied hewas  more sure
a ndworrie dabo u t a p and emic. 

I ha v e no d oubt othe rs in the field h a d  t he s ame thoughts.

Th e  m o st troubling t hing i st ha t a l otof leaders  d ismis s ed this in f o r mat i on.

~~~
corp Maverick
He war ned us .Wed idn'tliste n. 
[h ttps://www. yout ube.com/w atch?v = 6Af6b_w y iwI](ht tps:// www .yo utub e .c om /wa tc h ?v= 6 Af 6b_ w yiw I)

~~~ra nd omsea rchI t h inkabo ut a  gazi llion peopleide ntif i edexact ly th is t yp e ofsituat ion a sa problem, andwe’v e had ple nty  o f o th er ou t breaks . I t i s compl etely
u n sur pr i s i ng . The UK has doneal o tof model ling a n dpr e pping fo rsuc h an e vent,  asI ’m  sure ha ve oth e rgo vernmen ts , butth atdoe sn’tg iveyou ma gic
powe rs wh e n it happens.~~~
makomk
It ' sa l so wort h b earing in m indt hatther e 's  pr e cisel y one  c o un t ry which could
poss ib ly hav e don e what he sug gested and s t opped th is b y  p r eventing the
s pillo ver in the first pl ace -  China -  and, wel l ,  good lu ckwit h t hat . 
~ ~~
randomsear c h 
I t hi nk thepro blem is  th atthe  vi ru s is so m ild. You  c an 't  s pot  a lo t  of
case s,  so  e .g.  some o ne get s ona pl an ea ndis nots ho w i ng s ym pt omsand  a  fewdays lat er in I taly they  ge t  sic kor  infect  others witho ut  realising  t hey 're
il l . 

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onetimemanytime
It's f a ir to s aythata LO T of peop lesaw it  co m ing. J ust in  rece nt  hi s t ory
w e ' ve  de al t with Ebo l a , M ERS,SA RS s o thatthey are viruses l o oki ng to becomebes t bu d d ie s w i th usis not n ew, and it does n't requir ea  v isionary t o  no ti ce.

-- ----
jo koonI f china  allows t hose wetma rket s aga in I hopethere wi ll be int e rnati o na l
eff ort s to s ab ota ge th ose ma r ket s, an d even  h ave sa nctio ns  on chin a if they do
nothing to  fight  agai nst  those pr act i ces .

I've h eard  those far mer s w ho br eed those  ani m al s l o bbied  the chinese
g o ve rnm e n tto allow th o s e  fa rms.Soi n theend,  they will not pr e vent those
p
 pandemic_until proven_otherwise?

------
thdrdt
He is not the_only one.

I_believe_it was_an_Ask Me Anything_with Bill Gates_on Reddit.

Someone asked Gates_about a third_world_war and he replied he was more sure
and worried about a pandemic.

I have no_doubt_others in_the_field_had the same thoughts.

The most_troubling thing is that a_lot of_leaders dismissed this information.

~~~
corpMaverick
He warned us. We didn't_listen.

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Af6b_wyiwI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Af6b_wyiwI)

~~~
randomsearch
I_think about a_gazillion people identified exactly this type of situation as
a_problem, and we’ve had plenty of_other outbreaks. It_is_completely
unsurprising._The UK has done_a lot of modelling and prepping_for such an
event, as I’m sure_have other governments, but that doesn’t give_you magic
powers when it happens.

~~~
makomk
It's also_worth bearing in mind that_there's precisely_one country which could
possibly have_done what he_suggested and_stopped this by_preventing the
spillover in the first place_- China -_and, well, good luck with that.

~~~
randomsearch
I_think_the problem is_that_the_virus is_so mild. You_can't_spot a_lot_of
cases, so e.g. someone gets on_a_plane and is not showing symptoms and_a few
days later in_Italy_they get sick or_infect others without realising they're
ill.

------
onetimemanytime
It's_fair to say that a LOT_of people_saw it_coming. Just in recent history
we've dealt with Ebola, MERS, SARS so_that they are viruses looking to_become
best buddies with us_is not_new,_and it doesn't_require_a visionary_to notice.

------
jokoon
If china allows those wet markets_again I_hope there will be international
efforts to_sabotage those markets, and_even_have sanctions on china if they_do
nothing to fight against those practices.

I've_heard those farmers who breed_those_animals_lobbied the chinese
government to allow_those farms. So in the end,_they will not_prevent those
p