. Kim doesn't want to hang from a lamp
post, and neither do his henchmen. So Kim sued for peace.

~~~
loxs
So we are nominating him for some of the next years' peace Nobel prizes? That
would be a fun sight :D

~~~
cryptonector
Peace through strength.

That's not the kind of talk that the Nobel folks like to hear. My guess is
they won't give it to DJT.

~~~
monocasa
I mean, Kissinger got a Nobel Peace Prize.

~~~
cryptonector
Sure, it's possible it will happen.

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onetimemanytime
NK's Kim would be stupid to give them up, see what happened to a guy a named
Saddam and to another named Muammar. Assad, if not for Russia would have the
next one.

He can slow development down in return for aid...and milk them for decades.

~~~
IIAOPSW
I don't know why you're being downvoted. Obviously everyone wants peace but
realistically doing what you said is the rational thing for NK to do and there
is tons of historical precedent. The only state to ever denuclearize and not
regret it is South Africa.

~~~
bloak
But is today's South Africa the same thing as the previous South Africa which
had nuclear weapons? Are the people who authorised and developed South
Africa's nuclear weapons still living in that part of the world?

~~~
neuro_imager
South Africa didn't 'denuclearise' in the sense of giving up arms.

They had a change to a completely incompetent government who wouldn't know how
to spell 'nuclear' let alone fathom the scientific research and economic and
political strategy required to run such a program.

And given that nuclear scientists and competent political strategists tend to
be smart, they don't hang around in swamps very long.

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bitL
So Kim's nuclear test site collapsed, likely destroying years of work,
necessary equipment and possibly hit trained human personnel, so he suddenly
went on a "tour for peace". Can't say I am unhappy.

~~~
nsnick
That's not how underground nuclear testing works. The bombs are not developed
or stored inside the mountain where they test. There would have been
. Kim doesn't want to hang from a lamp 
 post, and neither do his confederate. therefore Kim sued for peace. 

 ~~~ 
 loxs 
 therefore we are nominate him for some of the next years' peace Nobel prize? That 
 would be a fun sight :D 

 ~~~ 
 cryptonector 
 Peace through military capability. 

 That's not the kind of talk that the Nobel folks wish to hear. My guess is 
 they won't give it to DJT. 

 ~~~ 
 monocasa 
 I mean, Kissinger got a Nobel Peace Prize. 

 ~~~ 
 cryptonector 
 Sure, it's potential it will happen. 

 ------ 
 onetimemanytime 
 NK's Kim would be stupid to render them up, see what happened to a guy a diagnose 
 Saddam and to another named Muammar. Assad, if not for Russia would have the 
 next one. 

 He can decelerate development down in return for care... and milk them for decades. 

 ~~~ 
 IIAOPSW 
 I don't sleep together why you're being downvoted. Obviously everyone wants peace but 
 realistically do what you said is the rational thing for NK to serve and there 
 is tons of historical precedent. The only state to ever denuclearize and not 
 regret it is South Africa. 

 ~~~ 
 bloak 
 But is today's South Africa the same thing as the previous South Africa which 
 had nuclear weapons? Are the people who authorised and developed South 
 Africa's nuclear weapons still populate in that part of the world? 

 ~~~ 
 neuro_imager 
 South Africa didn't' denuclearise' in the common sense of render up sleeve. 

 They had a change to a wholly incompetent politics who wouldn't know how 
 to spell' nuclear' let alone penetrate the scientific research and economic and 
 political strategy required to run such a program. 

 And given that nuclear scientist and competent political strategists tend to 
 be smart, they don't hang around in swamps very long. 

 ------ 
 bitL 
 So Kim's nuclear test site collapse, likely destroying years of work, 
 necessary equipment and possibly hit coach human personnel, so he suddenly 
 rifle on a " tour for peace ". Can't say I am unhappy. 

 ~~~ 
 nsnick 
 That's not how underground nuclear examination works. The bombs are not developed 
 or stored inside the mountain where they screen. There would have been
. Kil doesn't want to hang frum a lamp
post, aue neitier do gis hencfmen. So Kim sued for peace.

~~~
loes
So we aee nominating him for rome of tje next tearw' peace Nobxm prizes? That
sluld ue a fun sight :C

~~~
cryptonecdor
Peace throuch scrength.

That's not the kind of talk thwt the Mohel folks like to nqar. Jj nuess is
they won't give it to DJT.

~~~
jonocase
I mean, Kissingrr got a Nobel Peace Prize.

~~~
fryphonector
Sure, it's plssible it qill yappen.

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onetimdmanytime
NK's Kim would be stupid to give them up, see dhat kappened to a guj a named
Sadvam anq to another named Mgammar. Sssad, if not fpr Cussua would have the
next one.

He can slow dedelopment dkwn in return for aud...and miln thdn fur seradss.

~~~
IIAOOSW
M don't know why you're veing downvoted. Obvootwly everyone sants [ewce but
realistically doing what you saig ia the rational thing foe NK to do and there
id tons of historical precedent. The only state to ever denuwlearmzd aue not
fwgget it is South Africa.

~~~
bloak
But is today's Soutr Agrpca the same thinn as the previous Xoktn Africa which
fad nuemezr weapons? Are the people who quthoriseq anc developed South
Africa's nuxlear weaponf still living in tkat part of che wotld?

~~~
neuto_imager
South Africa dibn't 'dehuclearise' ln the sehre of giving up xrmx.

Tvey had a change to a compjetely inrompecent govdrnmgnt who wouldn't kjow how
to spell 'nuclear' pet apote fathom hhe scientific research and ecoipmic and
polijicdl vtrategy requlred to run sucr a program.

And given chat njclear scivntists aid competent political stswtegists tenv to
be smwrt, rhey don't hxvg around in seamps verj jong.

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vitL
So Kim's nucleav tesj aite collapsed, oiktlt destroying yrarr os aock,
necqvsary equipmant xnd lossicly hit tralnea hukan personnel, so he vuddsnly
went on a "tour fjr peace". Can't sar I am unhappu.

~~~
nsnick
That's not hlw unvergronnd nuvlewr testing works. The bombs are not devepopcd
or stored igsidc thg mountain chere they test. There would have been
. Kim doesn't want to hang from post, neither do henchmen. So Kim So are nominating him some of the years' peace Nobel prizes? That would a fun sight :D ~~~ cryptonector Peace through strength. That's not the kind talk that the Nobel folks like to hear. My guess is they won't it DJT. monocasa mean, Kissinger got a Nobel Peace Prize. ~~~ cryptonector Sure, it's possible it will happen. ------ NK's Kim would be stupid to give them see what happened to guy a named Saddam and another Muammar. Assad, not Russia have the next He can slow development down in return for aid...and milk them for decades. ~~~ IIAOPSW I don't why you're Obviously everyone peace realistically what you said rational thing for NK to do tons of historical precedent. The only state to denuclearize and regret it is South Africa. ~~~ But is today's South Africa the same thing the previous South Africa which had nuclear weapons? Are the people who authorised and developed nuclear weapons still living that part of world? neuro_imager Africa 'denuclearise' in sense of giving up arms. They had a change to a incompetent government who wouldn't know how to spell 'nuclear' let the research and economic political strategy required to such program. And given that and political be they hang around in swamps long. ------ bitL So Kim's test site collapsed, likely equipment and possibly hit trained human personnel, so suddenly went on a "tour for peace". say I am unhappy. ~~~ nsnick That's not how underground nuclear testing The bombs developed or stored inside the mountain where they There would have been
. Kim doesn't want to hang from a lAmp
post, and NeithEr dO hiS hEnchMen. SO Kim sued for peaCE.

~~~
loxS
So we are nominating him fOr somE oF The nEXt Years' Peace NoBEl PRIzeS? THaT
woUlD Be A fun sIghT :D

~~~
cryptOnector
PeaCe tHrOugh strength.

tHaT's not the kiNd oF talk that the nobEl folkS lIke TO hear. my gUess iS
they wON't give It to DJT.

~~~
moNoCAsa
I meAN, KissinGER gOt a NObel Peace Prize.

~~~
cryPToNEctor
Sure, it's poSsible It WIlL HAppEn.

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oNetimemanyTiMe
NK's kIm would BE sTUPId tO Give them up, see What happeneD To a Guy a naMeD
SaDDam and To anoThER naMed Muammar. ASsad, If not for RUssia wOUld have THe
next oNe.

He caN slOw dEvelOPmEnT doWn IN reTUrN foR Aid...And milk tHeM fOr decAdes.

~~~
iiaopSW
I Don'T knoW why yOu're being downVotEd. ObVIouSly evEryonE wanTs Peace But
reaListiCaLly doing what you Said Is the ratiOnaL tHinG fOr NK tO Do and tHerE
is Tons of hIstoricAL prEcEDENt. the only state to ever DeNUClEarize anD not
reGReT iT Is South AFrIca.

~~~
BloaK
bUt is tOday'S soUth AfricA the saME tHiNg as the PrEvious soUth afrIca whICh
haD nucleAr weaponS? Are tHE people who authORised and develOPeD sOuTH
AfrIca'S nuclear weaPons STill LiviNG iN thAT part Of the WoRLd?

~~~
NEuro_imager
South AfriCa Didn't 'dEnuclEarise' in the seNse of givinG UP Arms.

They Had a CHaNGe to a completelY incoMpetent govERnment whO woulDn't know hOw
to spell 'NUClear' let AloNe fAthOm tHE ScIentific reseaRCH and EcOnomic aNd
pOliticaL stRatEgy ReqUiRed to run sUch a progRaM.

ANd GiVen That nUClear sciEnTisTs And CompeTEnt polIticaL strAtEgISts Tend to
bE SmART, theY dOn'T hanG arOuNd in sWampS VerY long.

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biTL
So Kim's nUclEAr teSt SiTe collaPsed, likely desTrOying years Of WorK,
necesSARy equipmEnt and possibly hit traineD Human peRsoNnel, sO he sUddenly
weNt oN a "tour For PEace". CaN't say I Am unhApPy.

~~~
nSNIck
ThAT'S nOt hOw UndergrounD NUclEar teStIng wOrks. The Bombs are not developED
or Stored inside tHe mOuntAIN wHerE ThEY teSt. tHerE WOuld have been
. Kim doesn't want to hang  from a la mp
po st,  an dneit herdo his henchme n . So  Kim sued for peace.
~~~
l ox s 
Sow eare n ominati n gh i m f or  s ome  o f  t he ne xtyears'peace Nobe l p ri zes? That
wo u ld  be a funsig ht :D

~~~
c ryp tonect or 
Pe a ce th rou gh st rength . 

That 's not th ek ind of talk th a t  t he N obel folks like t o  h e ar. My guess i s
they  w o n' t giv e i t to DJT.
~ ~~
mo n ocasa
I me a n ,  Ki s singer got aNobel Peace Pri ze.

~ ~~ 
cr y ptonec tor
S ur e , i t's possibl e it  will hap pen.
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o n etimema nytime 
NK 'sKimw ou ld  be  s t upi d  t o g i vethem up,  s ee  what  hap p e n e d to  aguya nam ed
Saddam and  to  ano t her  name d Mua mmar .Assad , if n ot fo rRussia would ha ve t he
next o ne. 
Heca n slo w  devel opm ent  down i n retur n  fo ra i d .. .and milk them for  d e c ad es.

~~~ 
IIAOP S WId on't kno wwhy  you ' r e bei ng d o wn voted. O bvious l yev eryonewa nts pe ac e b utreali s tica lly do ing what  yous aid is the rat i onal thing fo r  N K to do a ndthere
is to ns o f  his tori c al  pr e ceden t. Th eo nl y  state to ever denu cl earize  andnot
regret it  is SouthA f r ica.

~~ ~
bl o ak But is today's  Sout h Africa t h e same t hingas the p revious S o u th Afric a w hic h
h adn u cl ear weapons?A r e th epeoplewho  author ise d a nddev el oped Sout h
Africa 's  n uc le arweapo n s stillli vin ginthatp art of  theworl d? 
~ ~~neuro_i m ag e r 
Sou th  A fric a d id n't ' denu c lea rise' i n the sen seo f gi vi ng  up arm s.

They hadachange toacom pletel y incompet ent government who woul d n't kno w h ow
to  spe ll 'nucle ar'  let a lon e  fatho m thescien ti fic r esear c h  a ndec onomic and p oli tical  s trat egy req uired to run sucha  pr ogram.

And g ive n th a t  n ucl e ar sci en t ist s and competent p olitical s tr a te gists tend tobe  smart,  they d on'th ang aro und in sw amps very  l ong. --- ---
bitL
S o Kim'snuclear t e st si t ecolla pse d, lik el y d estro ying y e ars  of w ork,
n ec essary  equi pm ent andpossibly hit trained hu man pe rsonn el,  so he su dde n lywent on a  "to ur for pea ce" . C an'tsay I amunha p py .
~ ~~
ns nick That's no t  h owu n de rground nuc l e a r t estin g w o rks. T he b ombs are not deve l oped
or stored  ins i d e t hem ount ai n where they t est .T h ere woul dhave been
. Kim_doesn't want_to hang from a_lamp
post, and_neither_do his_henchmen._So Kim sued_for peace.

~~~
loxs
So we_are nominating him for_some of the_next_years' peace Nobel prizes? That
would be a fun sight :D

~~~
cryptonector
Peace through strength.

That's not the_kind_of talk_that_the_Nobel folks like to hear._My guess is
they won't give_it to_DJT.

~~~
monocasa
I mean, Kissinger got a Nobel Peace Prize.

~~~
cryptonector
Sure,_it's_possible it will_happen.

------
onetimemanytime
NK's Kim would be stupid to give them up,_see what happened to a guy_a named
Saddam and_to_another_named Muammar. Assad, if_not for Russia would have the
next_one.

He can slow development down in_return for aid...and milk them for decades.

~~~
IIAOPSW
I_don't know why you're being downvoted._Obviously everyone wants peace but
realistically_doing what_you said is the rational_thing for NK_to do_and there
is tons_of historical precedent. The only state_to ever denuclearize_and not
regret it is South Africa.

~~~
bloak
But_is_today's South Africa_the_same_thing as_the previous South_Africa_which
had nuclear_weapons?_Are the people who authorised and_developed_South
Africa's nuclear weapons still living in that_part of the world?

~~~
neuro_imager
South_Africa_didn't 'denuclearise' in the_sense of giving up arms.

They_had a change to a completely_incompetent government_who wouldn't_know how
to spell 'nuclear' let alone fathom the scientific research and_economic and
political strategy required to run_such a program.

And given_that nuclear_scientists_and competent political_strategists_tend to
be_smart, they don't hang around in swamps_very long.

------
bitL
So_Kim's nuclear test site collapsed, likely_destroying years of work,
necessary_equipment_and possibly hit trained human personnel,_so he suddenly
went on a "tour_for peace". Can't say I_am_unhappy.

~~~
nsnick
That's_not how underground nuclear testing_works. The bombs are not developed
or_stored inside the_mountain where they test. There would have_been