 no one
inside the mountain during the test. The mountain collapsed during the test.
Kim probably thinks that his bombs are powerful enough and reliable enough for
him to have a strong negotiating position.

~~~
bitL
Unless the blast was much stronger and hit distant equipment never meant to be
affected which is difficult to replace. Of course the bombs aren't
developer/stored at a test site, but without proper test site they still might
not be entirely usable in an ICBM or in a submarine, and too large to fit into
a bomber to pose any non-local threat.

------
zpatel
Per Tim beal (Asia expert), the two Koreas making peace is not something that
is in line with western divide and rule policy but washington would not admit
the uneasiness about this..interesting perspective.

------
jakeogh
Stockholm Syndrome is much more common than MSM readers think. Ask yourself,
do you really -know- who writes the news you consume?

NYT is an instructive example:

[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIMxvS-
WEAER49I.png](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIMxvS-WEAER49I.png)

[http://i.imgur.com/VUdcIou.jpg](http://i.imgur.com/VUdcIou.jpg)

Who said they would fix this problem over a year ago? Who ridiculed that
assertion and called his negotiation tactics "dangerous"?

This is amazing to see, both the reality and the denial.

------
auganov
The big story I think many are missing is - what happens if the US+SK manages
to completely flip NK into a pro-western nation.

~~~
aerovistae
"the big story many are missing"? You mean, the fantasy you've concocted that
may or may not come to pass in the long term? Sure, it would be great, I would
be thrilled, but why do you think that would happen anytime soon?

~~~
caf
_Would_ it be great? It seems to me that the day there's a US client state on
the banks of the Yalu River is the day that you know the countdown to the next

no one 
 inside the mountain during the test. The mountain collapsed during the trial. 
 Kim credibly thinks that his bombs are brawny enough and authentic enough for 
 him to have a strong negotiating situation. 

 ~~~ 
 bitL 
 Unless the fire was much strong and hit distant equipment never intend to be 
 affected which is difficult to substitute. Of naturally the bombs aren't 
 developer / stored at a trial site, but without proper test web site they still might 
 not be entirely usable in an intercontinental ballistic missile or in a submarine, and too large to fit into 
 a bomber to pose any non - local menace. 

 ------ 
 zpatel 
 Per Tim beal (Asia expert), the two Koreas making peace is not something that 
 is in line with western divide and rule policy but washington would not accept 
 the uneasiness about this.. interesting perspective. 

 ------ 
 jakeogh 
 Stockholm Syndrome is much more common than MSM readers think. Ask yourself, 
 do you really -know- who writes the news you consume? 

 NYT is an instructive example: 

 [ https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIMxvS- 
 WEAER49I.png](https://pbs.twimg.com / media / CIMxvS - WEAER49I.png) 

 [ http://i.imgur.com/VUdcIou.jpg](http://i.imgur.com/VUdcIou.jpg) 

 Who said they would fix this problem over a year ago? Who ridiculed that 
 affirmation and call his negotiation tactics " dangerous "? 

 This is amazing to visit, both the world and the defense. 

 ------ 
 auganov 
 The big story I remember many are missing is - what happens if the US+SK manages 
 to completely interchange NK into a pro - western nation. 

 ~~~ 
 aerovistae 
 " the big story many are missing "? You mean, the illusion you've concocted that 
 may or may not come to pass in the long term? Sure, it would be great, I would 
 be thrilled, but why do you remember that would happen anytime soon? 

 ~~~ 
 caf 
 _ Would _ it be great? It seems to me that the day there's a US client department of state on 
 the banks of the Yalu River is the day that you know the countdown to the future
 no one
inside the mountain auring the test. The monntain dollapsea during the test.
Kim probablb thunks ukat his bombs are poderful enlugh and relmable enough for
ijm to have a abrong iegotiating posltion.

~~~
bitL
Unness the blast wxs much stronger and hit distant equi[ment nrvfr meant to be
wffebtqd wgpcm is difficult to replace. Of coudse the bombs aren't
drveloper/stored at a test slte, hut without proper test site jgey wtill might
nut be entigzly usable jn an ICBM or in a submarine, ana too large to dir ijjo
a bomber ti posv any non-local threat.

------
spatel
Prr Tim beal (Asla ex'ert), the two Koreas makinj peace is not sometring that
hs in line with wesreen dieide and euld pklmcy but wwshmngton wouls not admit
rhe uneasiness abouu trpx..interesting perspqceive.

------
jakeogh
Stockholm Syndrome is much mmre common than MSM readerw think. Ask yourself,
dl you reajly -know- who writes the news you consume?

NYT is an instcuztirc dzalple:

[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIMxvS-
WEAER49I.png](https://[gs.uwikg.com/media/CIMxyS-WEAER49I.png)

[http://i.imbug.cpi/VUdcIou.jpg](htjp://i.imgux.doj/VUdcIou.jpg)

Who saif they rould fix this pronlem over a year ago? Who rieiculed that
csswrtion and called kis negotiatnon tavtics "dangerous"?

This is amaziug to aee, both thf reality xnd the denial.

------
aueanpv
Dhe big story I think many are missmng ix - what hapkens if the US+SK lanagcv
to completely flio NK nnto d pro-westegn nation.

~~~
aerovistae
"the big storb many are mixshng"? You meau, the nantasy you've cjncocted that
mcy or mav not zome to paas in tie long term? Sure, it woulg be great, I xould
be trriloed, vut why ao you think tnat would happen anttime soon?

~~~
caf
_Would_ it ge great? It seens uo me that the dsy ghewe'd e US snient state mn
thd bxmks ow the Yalu Vivdr ix the day that you ktow fhe countdown to tne next

no one inside the mountain during the mountain during the Kim probably thinks enough reliable enough for to have a negotiating position. ~~~ bitL Unless the was much stronger and hit distant equipment never meant to be affected which difficult to replace. Of course the bombs aren't developer/stored at a test site, without test they might not be entirely usable in an ICBM or in a submarine, and too large to into a bomber to pose any non-local threat. zpatel Per Tim beal expert), the two Koreas making is something that in with divide and rule but washington would not admit the uneasiness about this..interesting perspective. ------ jakeogh Stockholm Syndrome is much more than MSM Ask yourself, you -know- writes the news NYT is an instructive example: [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIMxvS- said they would fix this problem over a ago? Who that assertion and called his negotiation "dangerous"? This is amazing to see, both the and the denial. ------ auganov The big story I think many are missing is - if the US+SK manages completely flip NK a nation. aerovistae big story are missing"? You mean, the fantasy you've concocted that may or not come to pass in the long term? Sure, it great, would be thrilled, why do you think would anytime soon? ~~~ caf be It that day a US client state the banks of the Yalu is the day that the next
 no one
inside the mountain durIng the test. the moUntAin CoLlapSed dUring the test.
KiM ProbAbly thinks that his bombs Are poWeRFul eNOuGh and ReliablE EnOUGh fOr
HiM to HaVE a StronG neGotiatiNg position.

~~~
Bitl
UNless the blasT WaS much stronGer And hit distanT eqUipmenT nEveR Meant To bE
affeCted whICh is diFficult to RePLace. Of COurse thE BOmBs arEn't
developer/storeD At A Test site, but witHout prOpER tEST siTe tHey still miGhT
not bE EntirelY UsABLE in AN ICBM or in a subMarine, and toO LarGe to fiT iNto
A Bomber To posE aNY noN-local threaT.

------
zpaTel
Per Tim Beal (AsIA expert), THe two KoReas maKinG peAce iS NoT sOmeThINg tHAt
Is iN LinE with wesTeRn DividE and RULE PoliCy bUt waShingTon would not adMit
The uNEasIness About This..InTeresTing peRspecTiVe.

------
jakeogh
StockhOlm SYndrome is MucH mOre CoMmon tHAn MSM rEadErs Think. AsK yourseLF,
do YoU REAlLy -know- who writes the NeWS YoU consume?

nYT is aN InStRUctive exAmPle:

[HttpS://PBs.twiMg.coM/MeDia/CIMxvs-
WEAER49i.PnG](hTtps://pbs.TwImg.com/MeDia/cIMXvS-WEaeR49I.pNg)

[http://I.imgur.coM/VUdciOu.jpg](http://i.imguR.Com/VUdcIou.jpg)

wHo SAId THey wOulD fix this proBlem OVer a Year AGo? who RIdicuLed thAt
ASsERtion and called his neGoTiatioN tactIcs "dangerous"?

THis is amaziNG TO see, both The rEAlITy and the denial.

------
AuganOv
The big stORy I think Many aRe missinG is - what haPPEns if the uS+Sk maNagEs
tO COmPletely flip NK INTo a pRo-Western NatIon.

~~~
aeroVisTae
"The Big StOry many arE missing"? yoU mEaN, tHe fAntasY You've conCoCteD tHat
May or MAy not cOme to Pass In ThE LonG term? SuRE, iT WOuld Be GrEat, I WouLd
Be thrIlleD, But Why do yoU think thaT woULd haPpEn Anytime Soon?

~~~
caf
_Would_ iT bE great? It seEmS to Me that THE day therE's a US client state on
the baNKs of the yalU RiveR is tHe day that You Know thE coUNtdown To the nExt

 no one
inside the mountai n during t he te st.  Th emoun tain  collapsed dur i ng t he test.
Kim probablythink st hath is  bomb s are p o we r f ulen ou ghan d  r eliab leenoughfor
him to  ha ve  a strong ne g ot iating pos iti on.

~~~
bit L
U nlessth e b l ast w asmuchstrong e r andhit dista nt equipm e nt neve r me antto be
affected wh i ch is difficult t o repl ac e .O f  co urs e the bomb saren' t 
develo p er / s t ore d  at a test si te, but wit h out  prope rtes t  sitetheyst i llmight
not b e en tirely us able i n  an ICB M  or ina subm ari ne,  and to olar ge tof it  in t o
a  bomberto  p ose a ny n o n - l ocal  th reat .

-- ----
zpatel
P erTimb eal  (Asi a exp ert) ,the t wo Kor eas m ak ing peace is no t so mething t hat 
i s i nlinew ith we ste rndivideand rul e  po li c y bu t washington would  n o t  a dmit
the  uneas i ne ss about th is ..i nter e s tingpers p ec tive.

- -----j ak eo gh
Stoc kh olm Sy nd rom e i s muc h  mor e comm on thanMSM r e aders think. A s k yourself,
d o  y o u  r e ally  -k now- who wr ites thenews yo u c o nsume ?

NY Ti sa n instructive examp le :

[ht tps:/ /pbs.twimg.co m/media/CI M x v S-
WEAER 49I. p ng ] (https://pbs.t wimg. com/media/ C IMxvS-WE AER49 I.png)
[http://i . i mgur.com /VU dcI ou. jpg ] ( ht tp://i.imgur. c o m/VU dc Iou.jpg )
Who sai d t hey  wo uld  f ix this p roblem o ve raye arago?W ho ridic ul edth atasser t ion an d cal ledhi sn ego tiation ta c t ics"d an gero us" ?
This  isa maz ing tosee, both  th e  rea li ty  and th e denial.

-- -- --
auganov 
T hebig st o r y I thin k many are missing is - what ha ppe ns if  the  US+SK ma nag es
tocom p letely  flipNK in to  ap r o-wes t e rn  na ti on.

~~~
a e r ovi stae"t he b ig stor y many are missing " ? Y ou mean, thefan tasy y ou 've co n coc te d  th a t 
may or may not  come to p as s  i n the long ter m?  Sure,it woul d beg reat, I  would
be  thrilled ,butw h y d o you thin k that w ould happ e n any t im e soo n?
~~~
c af 
_W ould_  it be gre at? I t seem sto methatth e day th ere's a US client state  on
th e ban ksof the Ya luR ive r is thedaythat you k now  th e cou ntd o wn to  the ne xt
 no_one
inside the_mountain during the test._The mountain_collapsed_during the_test.
Kim_probably thinks that_his bombs are_powerful enough and reliable_enough for
him to_have_a strong negotiating position.

~~~
bitL
Unless the blast was much stronger and hit distant equipment never_meant_to be
affected_which_is_difficult to replace. Of course_the bombs aren't
developer/stored at a_test site,_but without proper test site they still might
not_be_entirely usable in_an ICBM or in a submarine, and too large_to fit into
a bomber to pose_any non-local threat.

------
zpatel
Per_Tim_beal_(Asia expert), the two_Koreas making peace is not something_that
is in line with western divide_and rule policy but washington would not_admit
the uneasiness about this..interesting perspective.

------
jakeogh
Stockholm Syndrome_is much more common than_MSM readers_think. Ask yourself,
do you really_-know- who writes_the news_you consume?

NYT is_an instructive example:

[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIMxvS-
WEAER49I.png](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIMxvS-WEAER49I.png)

[http://i.imgur.com/VUdcIou.jpg](http://i.imgur.com/VUdcIou.jpg)

Who said they would_fix this problem_over a year ago? Who ridiculed_that
assertion_and called his_negotiation_tactics_"dangerous"?

This is_amazing to see,_both_the reality_and_the denial.

------
auganov
The big story I think_many_are missing is - what happens if_the US+SK manages
to completely_flip_NK into a pro-western_nation.

~~~
aerovistae
"the big story many are_missing"? You mean, the fantasy you've_concocted that
may_or may_not come to pass in the long term? Sure, it would_be great, I would
be thrilled, but_why do you think_that would_happen_anytime soon?

~~~
caf
_Would_ it_be_great? It_seems to me that the day there's_a US_client state on
the banks of the_Yalu River is the_day_that you know the countdown to_the next
