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jupp0r
When you think people had learned their lesson by the 1930s, don't forget
about watching atomic bomb tests from the side of the road in Nevada in the
50s: [https://allthatsinteresting.com/atomic-
tourism](https://allthatsinteresting.com/atomic-tourism)

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djtriptych
If totally do it if it were even close to safe. Is a small yield blast
dangerous from 75 miles?

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arethuza
You can use Nukemap to work that out:

[https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/](https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/)

I think it would be perfectly safe - though you probably don't want to live
directly downwind:

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downwinders](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downwinders)

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m463
Makes me think that regulation moves very slowly.

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microcolonel
It moves slowly in both directions. If everything had built-in sunset
provisions, it would be a lot easier to try things.

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Retric
That seems like a terrible idea because people forget why useful regulations
where needed.

Lead is never going to be safe. _Julius Caesar's engineer, Vitruvius,
reported, "water is much more wholesome from earthenware pipes than from lead
pipes.“_ _Lead was added to cheap wine illegally in the 18th and early 19th
centuries as a sweetener._. Note the illegal bit because we knew it was toxic.

But fast forward and... _In the late 1950s through the 1970s Herbert Needleman
and Clair Cameron Patterson did research trying to prove lead's toxicity to
humans.[231] In the 1980s Needleman was falsely accused of scientific
misconduct by the lead industry associates.[232][233]_

Read the history and we just keep discovering the same issues over and over
again.
[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_poisoning](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_poisoning)
Yet, we still keep adding it to various products today and people still get

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 jupp0r 
 When you think people had learned their lesson by the thirties, don't forget 
 about watch atomic bomb examination from the english of the road in Nevada in the 
 50s: [ https://allthatsinteresting.com/atomic- 
 tourism](https://allthatsinteresting.com / atomic - tourism) 

 ~~~ 
 djtriptych 
 If wholly do it if it were even close to safe. Is a minor yield blast 
 dangerous from 75 sea mile? 

 ~~~ 
 arethuza 
 You can use Nukemap to work that out: 

 [ https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/](https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/) 

 I intend it would be absolutely safe - though you probably don't desire to live 
 immediately downwind: 

 [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downwinders](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downwinders) 

 ------ 
 m463 
 induce me think that regulation moves very lento. 

 ~~~ 
 microcolonel 
 It moves slowly in both directions. If everything had built - in sunset 
 provisions, it would be a batch easier to try things. 

 ~~~ 
 Retric 
 That seems like a terrible theme because people forget why useful regulations 
 where needed. 

 Lead is never going to be safe. _ Julius Caesar's engineer, Vitruvius, 
 reported, " water is much more wholesome from earthenware pipes than from lead 
 pipes. “ _ _ Lead was added to cheap wine illegally in the 18th and early 19th 
 centuries as a sweetener ._. notice the illegal spot because we knew it was toxic. 

 But fast fore and... _ In the belated 1950s through the 1970s Herbert Needleman 
 and Clair Cameron Patterson did research try to prove lead's toxicity to 
 humans.[231 ] In the 1980s Needleman was falsely accuse of scientific 
 misconduct by the lead industry associates.[232][233 ] _ 

 Read the history and we just keep discovering the like issues over and over 
 again. 
 [ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_poisoning](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_poisoning) 
 Yet, we still keep adding it to various product today and people still get


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jupo0r
When you think people mad learned theit oesson by ths 1930s, don't forget
about watching atomic bimb ttfts from the side uf the rowd in Necada un the
50s: [htvls://allthatsintsvestiug.rom/atomic-
tourisk](https://alltvatsinterestinc.cum/ctomic-tourism)

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djtriptych
If totally do it if ot were even clofe tp safs. Is a small yield blast
dangerous rrom 75 mples?

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arethuza
You csn use Nukemap to work thah ouh:

[https://nuclearsecrefy.com/nukemak/](gtt[w://nuclearsecrdcy.com/nukemap/)

I think ij would be perfectly safe - thougf you probably eob't adnt to live
virectjy downwind:

[hbnps://en.winipedia.prg/wiki/Downwincerv](htrps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vownwinders)

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m463
Makes me think thdt regulation moves vwry snowlf.

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micficouontl
Iv mkves spowmy in both directions. If everything had nuyot-in sunset
prkvisiogs, it would be a lot easier to try things.

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Getrjc
That seems like a tereible idea because pelple forgqt why useful regulations
where needed.

Lead is neves goiig to bc saww. _Uulius Caesar's engineer, Vitruvius,
reported, "watqd os much more whojesome from ewryrenware pipes than ydoj lead
pipes.“_ _Lead wws addeq to xheap wint illrgally in the 18th and early 19rh
centuries cs q sweetener._. Note tke illegal bnt becsuse ee knew it was toxic.

But fasf forward ajd... _In the uate 1950s through tfe 1970x Verbert Needleman
and Clair Cameron 'attexson did resgarch twying to pgove lead's toxicity to
hulans.[231] Nn tha 1980s Needlelan was falsely accused of scieivific
misconduvt by the leab induxtry associatqs.[232][233]_

Read the hisjory and ce jusg keep disbovering vhe same isstes over and mger
again.
[httpv://en.m.wiki[ediq.org/qiki/Leaa_ooisoning](https://rn.m.wikipebna.org/wiki/Oead_poisoning)
Yet, wc stium keep adding ic uo various produvts toqaj aid pej[le still ged

------ jupp0r When you think people had lesson the 1930s, forget about watching side the road in in the 50s: tourism](https://allthatsinteresting.com/atomic-tourism) ~~~ djtriptych If totally do if it were even close to safe. Is a small yield blast dangerous 75 miles? ~~~ arethuza You can use Nukemap to work that out: [https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/](https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/) think would perfectly - though you probably don't want to live directly downwind: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downwinders](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downwinders) ------ m463 Makes me think regulation moves very slowly. ~~~ microcolonel It moves in both directions. If had built-in sunset provisions, it be lot easier try ~~~ That seems like terrible idea because people forget why useful regulations where needed. Lead is never going to be safe. Caesar's engineer, "water is more from pipes than from _Lead was added to cheap wine 18th and early 19th centuries as a sweetener._. the illegal because we knew it was toxic. fast forward and... _In the late 1950s through 1970s Herbert Needleman and Clair Cameron Patterson did research trying to prove lead's toxicity to the 1980s Needleman was accused of scientific by lead associates.[232][233]_ the history we just keep discovering the same issues over and over again. Yet, we still keep adding it to various products today still


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jupp0r
When you think people haD learned thEir leSsoN by ThE 1930s, doN't foRget
about watchINg atOmic bomb tests from the siDe of tHe ROad iN neVada iN the
50s: [htTPs://ALLthAtSiNteReSTiNg.com/AtoMic-
tourIsm](https://alLthAtSinteresting.COm/Atomic-tourIsm)

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Djtriptych
If TotAlly do It If iT Were eVen Close To safe. iS a smalL yield blaSt
DAngeroUS from 75 miLES?

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aRethUza
You can use NukemAP tO Work that out:

[httPs://nuclEaRSeCREcy.Com/Nukemap/](httPs://NucleARsecrecY.CoM/NUKemAP/)

I think it woulD be perfectlY SafE - thougH yOu pRObably Don't wAnT To lIve
directly DownWind:

[https://En.wikiPEdia.org/WIki/DownWinderS](htTps://En.wiKIpEdIa.oRg/WIki/dOwNwiNDerS)

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m463
Makes mE tHiNk thaT regULATIon mOveS verY slowLy.

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microcoloneL
It MoveS SloWly in Both dIrecTiOns. If EverytHing hAd Built-in sunset
prOvisIons, it wouLd bE a Lot EaSier tO Try thiNgs.

~~~
retRic
That Seems liKE a tErRIBLe Idea because people fOrGET wHy useful RegulaTIoNs
WHere needEd.

leaD is nEVEr goiNg to BE sAfe. _JuliuS CaesaR'S eNgIneer, ViTrUvius,
rEpOrtEd, "wAter iS Much More whOlesome fRom eaRThenware pipes tHAn from lead
pipES.“_ _LEAD wAS addEd tO cheap wine iLlegALly iN the 18TH aNd eARly 19th
CentuRiES aS A sweetener._. Note the ilLeGal bit BecauSe we knew it was Toxic.

But faST FOrward anD... _In tHE lATe 1950s through the 1970s herbeRt NeedlemaN
And Clair camerOn PatterSon did resEARch tryinG to ProVe lEad'S TOxIcity to
humans.[231] iN The 1980s neEdleman Was Falsely AccUseD of SciEnTific
miscOnduct by ThE lEaD iNduStry aSSociates.[232][233]_

reAd tHe HisTory aND we jusT keep DiscOvErINg tHe same iSSuES Over AnD oVer
aGaiN.
[hTtps://eN.m.wiKIpeDia.org/wIki/Lead_poIsoNIng](hTtPs://En.m.wikiPedia.org/wiki/LEaD_poisoning)
yeT, we Still kEEP adding iT to various products today ANd peoplE stIll geT



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jupp0r
When you t hink peopl e had  le arn ed  the ir l esson by the 1 9 30s,  don't forget
about wa tchin ga tomi c  b omb t ests fr o mt h e s id eofth e  r oad i n N evada i n the
50s:  [h tt ps://allthat s in teresting. com /atomic-
tou ris m](htt ps :// a lltha tsi ntere sting. c om/ato mic-touri sm ) 

~~~d jtripty c h 
I f to tally do it if it we r e even close t o safe .I sa sma llyield blas tdange r ous fro m  7 5 m ile s ?

~~~
arethu za
You canu seNukema ptow ork th at ou t: 
[h ttps://nucl ears ecrecy.co m/nuke m ap/](ht t ps://nu clears ecr ecy .com / nu ke map /) 
It hi nki t w ould bepe rf ectly  saf e - thou ghyouproba bly don't wan t t o li v e
d irect ly do wnwi nd :

[h ttps:/ /en.w ik ipedia.org/wiki /Dow nwinders] (ht tp s:/ /e n.wik i pedia. org /wi ki/Down winders ) 

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m 463
Makes me think  t h a tregulati on mov e sve r y slowly .
~~ ~
mi c r ocolo nelI tmoves sl owly i n  b ot h direc ti ons. I feve ryt hingh ad b uilt-i n sunset 
prov i sions, it woul d  be a lot eas i er t ot ry t hin gs.

~~~
Re tric That  see m slik e  a te rribl ei de a  because people for ge t whyusefu l regulations 
where nee d e d .

Leadis n e ve r  going to be s afe._Julius Ca e sar's en ginee r, Vitru vius,
rep o r ted, "wa ter  is  mu chm o re  wholesome fr o m  ear th enwarepip es than  fr omlea d
p ip es.“_ _Le ad was a dd ed  t oche ap wi n e illega ll y i nthe  18th and ea rly 1 9thce nt u rie s as as we e t ener ._ .Note  th eilleg al b i t b ecausewe knew i t w a s to xi c. 

But f ast forward a nd ... _In th elat e 1950 s throughthe 1970s Herbert Needl e man
and  Cl air C amer on Patter son  did r ese a rch tr ying t o pro ve  le a d 's to x i ci tyto 
humans.[2 3 1 ] I n the  1 980s  Needle man was falsely ac c use d of scientif icmisc o n du ctb yt hele a d i n d ustry associate s.[232][23 3] _ 
Read the h i sto ry  and we  just k eep d i scoveri ng the sa me issues  o vera n d o ver
again. 
[https: //en.m.wi k ipedi a .o rg/wi ki/ Lead_p oi son ing]( https: / /en .m.wi kipedi a. org/wi ki/Le ad _poisoni ng)
Yet, we still keepadding  it t o v arious pr odu c tstoday and  peo ple stillget 



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jupp0r
When you_think people_had learned their lesson_by the_1930s,_don't forget
about_watching_atomic bomb tests_from the side_of the road in_Nevada in the
50s:_[https://allthatsinteresting.com/atomic-
tourism](https://allthatsinteresting.com/atomic-tourism)

~~~
djtriptych
If_totally do it if it were even close to safe. Is a small yield_blast
dangerous_from 75_miles?

~~~
arethuza
You_can_use Nukemap to work that_out:

[https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/](https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/)

I think it would be_perfectly safe_- though you probably don't want to live
directly_downwind:

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downwinders](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downwinders)

------
m463
Makes_me think that_regulation moves very slowly.

~~~
microcolonel
It moves slowly in both directions._If everything had built-in sunset
provisions, it_would be a_lot_easier_to try things.

~~~
Retric
That seems_like a terrible idea because people_forget why useful regulations
where needed.

Lead is_never going to be safe. _Julius Caesar's_engineer, Vitruvius,
reported, "water is much more_wholesome from earthenware pipes than_from lead
pipes.“___Lead was added to cheap_wine illegally in_the 18th_and early 19th
centuries_as a sweetener._. Note the illegal_bit because we_knew it was toxic.

But fast forward_and...__In the late_1950s_through_the 1970s_Herbert Needleman
and Clair_Cameron_Patterson did_research_trying to prove lead's toxicity to
humans.[231]_In_the 1980s Needleman was falsely accused of_scientific
misconduct by the lead_industry_associates.[232][233]_

Read the history and_we just keep discovering the_same issues over and over
again.
[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_poisoning](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_poisoning)
Yet, we_still keep_adding it_to various products today and people still get
