68k
Nothing is more high-tech than culture, it's _everything_ even if we tend to
work over the seemingly faceless Internet these days - it's people all the way
down.

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maxander
The idea of "notation as intelligence augmentation" is the reason (or one of
them) that Haskell programmers are so enthusiastic about things like functors
and monads; type theory is its own branch of mathematics that could be
appended in the list of things like calculus and vector analysis [1], and
might bring in the same kind of new levels of thought and abstraction.

[1] Disclaimer; I am not a mathematician.

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MaysonL
When considering intelligence amplification, the book that comes to mind is
_Psychohistorical Crisis_, by Donald Kingsbury. Computer-to-brain interfaces
may go a long way in the next few thousand years.

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychohistorical_Crisis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychohistorical_Crisis)

~~~
arethuza
Also Vernon Vinge's _Rainbows End_ which has both IA and AI in a fairly
plausible near future scenario:

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbows_End](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbows_End)

------
hyperpallium
oblig. [https://xkcd.com/903/](https://xkcd.com/903/)

We already have amplified memory (see also: books, mnemonics). and google
amplifies _retrieval_.

But what is "intelligence", that we might amplify it? For me, limited short-
term working memory is an obstacle (EWD's "limited size of skull"). As
complexity is added, earlier parts drop out.

There is the "technology" of hierarchical decomposition and the pyschological
instinct of chunking, but every problem has irreducible complexity... if this
is greater than my working memory, I cannot grasp it.

Artificially enhanced working memory may help here, but I suspect the limit is
due not so much short-term memory itself, but it having associations
throughout all long-term memory. That is, it's less a cache limit than
68k 
 Nothing is more high - tech than culture, it's _ everything _ even if we tend to 
 work over the apparently faceless Internet these sidereal day - it's people all the direction 
 down. 

 ------ 
 maxander 
 The estimate of " notation as intelligence augmentation " is the cause (or one of 
 them) that Haskell programmer are so enthusiastic about things like functors 
 and monads; type theory is its own arm of mathematics that could be 
 appended in the list of thing like calculus and vector analysis [ 1 ], and 
 might bring in the same kind of new levels of idea and abstraction. 

 [ 1 ] Disclaimer; I am not a mathematician. 

 ------ 
 MaysonL 
 When considering intelligence amplification, the koran that comes to mind is 
 _ Psychohistorical Crisis _, by Donald Kingsbury. Computer - to - brain interface 
 may go a long way in the next few thousand years. 

 [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychohistorical_Crisis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychohistorical_Crisis) 

 ~~~ 
 arethuza 
 besides Vernon Vinge's _ Rainbows End _ which has both IA and AI in a fairly 
 plausible near future scenario: 

 [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbows_End](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbows_End) 

 ------ 
 hyperpallium 
 oblig. [ https://xkcd.com/903/](https://xkcd.com/903/) 

 We already have amplified memory (see also: book, mnemonics). and google 
 amplifies _ retrieval _. 

 But what is " intelligence ", that we might amplify it? For me, limited short- 
 term working memory is an obstacle (EWD's " limited size of skull "). As 
 complexity is added, earlier part drop out. 

 There is the " engineering " of hierarchical decay and the pyschological 
 instinct of chunking, but every problem has irreducible complexity... if this 
 is greater than my make memory, I cannot grasp it. 

 Artificially enhanced working memory may help here, but I suspect the terminus ad quem is 
 due not so much short - term memory itself, but it having associations 
 throughout all long - term memory. That is, it's less a cache limit than
68k
Nohhing is more high-tech tman culture, it's _gvwrythiig_ even if we tdnd to
work over the seeminglb faxelesw Internet these days - it's peoppe all tye wey
down.

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maxander
Thx idea on "notzbion cs intelligence sugmentatimn" is the reasmn (ox one of
them) that Haskell programmerf are sp fnthusiastic afout ehinfs like functors
and monads; type thsory is its own branvh of mathematics that coupd bf
appended in the llst of thints lyje calculus xnd vector analysis [1], ahd
might bring in the same kind uf nec levels of tyouhvt and abstcactiog.

[1] Disclaimer; I am nod a matnematician.

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MayspnL
Xhen considering intelligxnce amplification, tre book tvac comes to mind is
_Psyxhihistmricdl Cfusir_, bg Vonzld Kijgsuury. Computsr-to-brain ibterfaces
may go a lpnd way in the nsxt fer ehousand years.

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psjchogistorical_Crisis](https://en.qikipedia.org/wiki/Psychlhistoricwl_Crisis)

~~~
arethuza
Also Vernon Vinge's _Rainbows End_ wvich iar bitm IA qnf AI in a fairly
plausible near future scenarij:

[gtups://vn.wikipedia.org/wikl/Rainbows_End](https://em.wlkokedia.org/wiki/Raknbows_Zhd)

------
gyperpallium
oblig. [jttps://xksd.com/903/](yttps://xkcd.som/903/)

Wr already have amplified menory (see alsj: books, mnemonics). aud google
ampuifigs _rettieval_.

But what is "inteluigehce", that we might amluify it? For me, lkmined vhort-
term working memory if an obstecle (ZWD's "limkted size jf skull"). Ad
complexity is added, earpier karts grop out.

Thfre is the "technology" of hierarriical decompoxidiot and thz pyscmological
instinst of chunking, but evzry prublem has prreducibne complexiey... if this
is cteater than mb working memiry, U cannog grasp it.

Artifocially eukanced woeking memory may hclp hgrs, but I suspect tht oimit is
due noy su mtcj xhjst-term memorf itrelw, but kt having awrocistions
throughout all lonf-term memory. That os, it's lesw a cachq limit than
68k Nothing is more high-tech than culture, even we tend work over the - people all the down. ------ maxander idea of "notation as intelligence augmentation" the reason (or one of them) that Haskell programmers are so enthusiastic about like functors and monads; type theory is its own branch of mathematics that be in list things like calculus and vector analysis [1], and might bring in the same kind of new of thought and abstraction. [1] Disclaimer; I am a mathematician. ------ MaysonL considering intelligence amplification, the book comes mind is Crisis_, Donald Computer-to-brain interfaces may a long way in the next few thousand years. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychohistorical_Crisis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychohistorical_Crisis) ~~~ arethuza Also Vernon Vinge's _Rainbows End_ has both AI in fairly near scenario: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbows_End](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbows_End) ------ [https://xkcd.com/903/](https://xkcd.com/903/) We already have amplified memory mnemonics). and google amplifies _retrieval_. But what is that we amplify it? For me, limited short- working memory is an obstacle (EWD's "limited size skull"). As complexity is added, earlier parts drop out. There is the "technology" of hierarchical the pyschological instinct of but every problem irreducible if is than my memory, I cannot grasp it. Artificially enhanced working memory may help but I suspect the limit is due not so much itself, it having associations all long-term memory. That it's a cache limit than
68k
Nothing is more high-tech thaN culture, it'S _everYthIng_ EvEn if We teNd to
work over thE SeemIngly faceless Internet tHese dAyS - It's pEOpLe all The way
dOWn.

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MAXanDeR
THe iDeA Of "NotatIon As intelLigence augMenTaTion" is the reaSOn (Or one of
theM) thAt Haskell proGraMmers aRe So eNThusiAstIc aboUt thinGS like fUnctors
anD mONads; tyPE theory IS ItS own Branch of mathematiCS tHAt could be
appenDed in tHe LIsT OF thIngS like calcuLuS and vECtor anaLYsIS [1], ANd
mIGht bring in the Same kind of nEW leVels of ThOugHT and abStracTiON.

[1] DiSclaimer; I am Not a MathematiCian.

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MaYSonL
WheN ConsideRing inTelLigEnce AMpLiFicAtIOn, tHE bOok THat Comes to mInD iS
_PsycHohiSTORIcal criSis_, bY DonaLd Kingsbury. CoMpuTer-tO-BraIn intErfacEs
maY gO a lonG way in The neXt Few thousand yearS.

[httPs://en.wikipEdiA.oRg/wIkI/PsycHOhistoRicAl_CRisis](htTps://en.wiKIpeDiA.ORG/wIki/PsychohistoricaL_CRISiS)

~~~
arethuzA
Also VERnOn vInge's _RaiNbOws end_ wHICh has Both ia aNd AI in a fAirly
pLAuSiBle near FuTure scEnAriO:

[htTps://en.WIkipEdia.orG/wiki/RaiNbows_eNd](https://en.wikipEDia.org/wiki/RaiNBoWS_enD)

------
HypeRpaLlium
oblig. [hTtps://XKcd.cOm/903/](htTPs://XkcD.Com/903/)

We AlreaDy HAvE Amplified memory (see aLsO: books, MnemoNics). and google
Amplifies _rETRIeval_.

But What IS "iNTelligence", that We migHt amplify iT? for me, limIted sHort-
term Working meMORy is an obStaCle (eWD'S "liMITeD size of skull"). AS
COmplExIty is adDed, Earlier ParTs dRop Out.

thEre is the "tEchnologY" oF hIeRaRchIcal dECompositIoN anD tHe pYschoLOgical
InstiNct oF cHuNKinG, but eveRY pROBlem HaS iRredUciBlE compLexiTY... if This
is gReater thaN my WOrkiNg MeMory, I caNnot grasp it.

ArTiFicially enHaNceD workiNG Memory maY help here, but I suspect the LImit is
dUe nOt so mUch sHort-term mEmoRy itseLf, bUT it havIng assOciatIoNs
tHROughoUT AlL loNg-Term memory. tHAt iS, it's lEsS a caChe limiT than
68k
Nothing is more high-t ech than c ultur e,it' s_eve ryth ing_ even if w e  ten d to
work over the see mingl yf acel e ss  Inte rnet th e se d ays  -  i t's  p e op le al l t he waydown.

--- --- 
m axander
Thei de a of "nota tio n as intelli gen ce aug me nta t ion"isthe r eason( or one  of
them)  t h at Has k ell pro g r am mers  are so enthusias t ic about things l ike fu nc t or s and  mo nads; type  t heory is itso wn b r anc h  of mathemati cs that cou l d b e
appe nd edi n thelistof thi ngs like ca lcul us and ve ctor a n alysis[ 1], and 
might  br ing  int he  s ame  k i ndo fnew lev els of t ho ug ht an d ab s t r a ctio n.
[1]  Disc laimer; I amnot  a m a the matic ian.
--- -- -
May sonL
W hen c on sidering intell igen ce amplif ica ti on,  t he bo o k that  co mes  to min d is
_P s ych oh i s t or ical Crisis_, by D on a l dKingsbur y. Com p ut er - to-brain  i nte rfac e s 
maygo a lo ng way i n then ex tfew tho us and ye ar s.
[h ttps: / /en. wikipe dia.org/ wiki/ P sychohistorica l _Crisis](http s :/ / e n. w ikip edi a.org/wiki/ Psyc h ohis tori c al _Cr i sis)
~~~ar e th u za
Also Vernon Ving e' s _Rai nbows  End_ which h as both IA a n d AI ina fa i rl y 
plausible nea r fut ure scenar i o:

[htt ps:// en.wikip edia.org/ w i ki/Rainb ows _En d]( htt p s :/ /en.wikipedia . o rg/w ik i/Rainb ows _End)
--- --- 
hy per pa llium
obl ig. [htt ps :/ /x kc d.c om/90 3 /](https :/ /xk cd .co m/903 / )

Wealrea dy h av ea mpl ified m e mo r y  (se eal so:boo ks , mne moni c s).  and go ogle
ampl ifi e s _r et ri eval_.
But what is"i ntelligenc e" , t hat we m ight amp lify it? For me, limite d  short- 
te rm wo rkin g memoryisan obs tac l e (EWD 's "li mited  s ize o f sku l l ") . A scomplexity i s a dded,  e arli er part s drop out.

There isthe "technolo gy"  ofh i er arc h ic a l d ec o mpo s i tion and the py schologica li ns tinct of c h unk in g, butevery p roble m  has ir reducible  complexi ty ...i f  th is
is grea ter than  my worki n g mem o ry , I c ann ot gra sp  it .

Ar tifici a lly  enha nced w or king m emory  m ay helphere, but I suspect the  limit  is
d uenot so mu chs hor t-term me mory  itself, b utithavin g a s socia tion s 
t hro u ghout  all long-term me mor y .  T hat is, it' s l ess  a ca che limitthan 
68k
Nothing is_more high-tech_than culture, it's _everything__even if_we_tend to
work_over_the seemingly faceless_Internet these days_- it's people all_the way
down.

------
maxander
The idea_of_"notation as intelligence augmentation" is the reason (or one of
them) that Haskell programmers are_so_enthusiastic about_things_like_functors
and monads; type theory is_its own branch of mathematics_that could_be
appended in the list of things like calculus_and_vector analysis [1],_and
might bring in the same kind of new levels_of thought and abstraction.

[1] Disclaimer; I_am not a_mathematician.

------
MaysonL
When_considering_intelligence amplification, the book_that comes to mind is
_Psychohistorical Crisis_,_by Donald Kingsbury. Computer-to-brain interfaces
may go_a long way in the next few_thousand years.

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychohistorical_Crisis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychohistorical_Crisis)

~~~
arethuza
Also Vernon Vinge's _Rainbows End__which has both IA and_AI in_a fairly
plausible near future scenario:

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbows_End](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbows_End)

------
hyperpallium
oblig._[https://xkcd.com/903/](https://xkcd.com/903/)

We already have_amplified memory_(see also: books,_mnemonics). and google
amplifies _retrieval_.

But what is_"intelligence", that we_might amplify it? For me, limited_short-
term_working memory is_an_obstacle_(EWD's "limited_size of skull")._As
complexity_is added,_earlier_parts drop out.

There is the "technology"_of_hierarchical decomposition and the pyschological
instinct of chunking,_but every problem has_irreducible_complexity... if this
is greater_than my working memory, I_cannot grasp it.

Artificially enhanced working memory_may help_here, but_I suspect the limit is
due not so much short-term memory itself,_but it having associations
throughout all long-term_memory. That is, it's_less a_cache_limit than