, Trump tweets assist in my mental stability.

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Trias11
Why does it matter if owner is known or not known?

Person or entity wants to keep invested in real estate to protect assets
against market fluctuations and frivolous lawsuits and it turns that real
estate is a great investment.

Why is that wrong?

As long as person/entity complies with all laws (including whatever - empty
housing tax?) - it shouldn't matter.

FinCEN _has the right to know_ and it does, but it hides this info from public
because probably some prominent political figures are in play here.

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jb_s
It's not wrong for an individual to choose an investment vehicle that aligns
to their overall strategy.

However in an overall social sense, I do think that residential property
investment in itself is wrong because I view housing as a utility and a basic
necessity along the lines of water, healthcare, fire/police services and
internet.

The issue is actually a simple trade off - whether it's more important to
ensure people can own their own homes, or that people are allowed to use real
estate as an investment.

I don't blame individual investors for this, but I do support the idea of
introducing laws to limit property speculation. Bear in mind that I'm from
Australia, where property investment has become a cancer that has drawn money
away from productive assets (like startups) and into property, which is
relatively speaking non-productive rent-seeking (outside of its effect on the
construction and design industries). There's no net output from acquiring debt
to buy a house so that you can do nothing but sit on it and flip it three
years later for profit.

~~~
ethanbond
You should check out Georgism/Land Value Tax if you’re not already familiar
with it. This comment is spot on.

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Ericson2314
Amend to that. Pity it is not better known. "homeownership" is such a rotten
ideology in the US and has led to so many problems.

~~~
balfirevic
I'm very sympathetic to Georgism, but you all seem to have taken a wrong turn
somewhere and ended up in a discussion about the real estate ownership
anonymity.

~~~
rjsw
Georgism
, Trump tweets assist in my mental constancy. 

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 Trias11 
 Why does it count if owner is sleep together or not known? 

 Person or entity want to prevent invested in real estate of the realm to protect assets 
 against market fluctuations and frivolous lawsuit and it turn that veridical 
 estate is a great investing. 

 Why is that wrong? 

 As long as person / entity complies with all law (including whatever - empty 
 housing tax ?) - it shouldn't count. 

 FinCEN _ has the right to know _ and it perform, but it hides this info from public 
 because credibly some prominent political figure are in play here. 

 ~~~ 
 jb_s 
 It's not wrong for an individual to choose an investment vehicle that align 
 to their overall strategy. 

 However in an overall social sense, I do think that residential property 
 investment in itself is wrong because I view housing as a utility and a basic 
 necessity along the lines of water, healthcare, fire / police services and 
 internet. 

 The issue is actually a simple trade off - whether it's more important to 
 guarantee people can own their own homes, or that multitude are allow to use real 
 estate as an investing. 

 I don't blame individual investors for this, but I do patronize the idea of 
 introducing law to limit property speculation. Bear in mind that I'm from 
 Australia, where property investment has become a cancer that has draw money 
 away from productive assets (like startup) and into property, which is 
 relatively speak non - productive rent - seeking (outside of its effect on the 
 construction and invention industries). There's no net output from grow debt 
 to buy a house so that you can do nothing but sit on it and flick it three 
 years later for net income. 

 ~~~ 
 ethanbond 
 You should check out Georgism / Land Value Tax if you ’re not already familiar 
 with it. This comment is spot on. 

 ~~~ 
 Ericson2314 
 Amend to that. Pity it is not well known. " homeownership " is such a decayed 
 ideology in the US and has led to so many problems. 

 ~~~ 
 balfirevic 
 I'm very sympathetic to Georgism, but you all appear to have taken a wrong turn 
 somewhere and ended up in a discussion about the real estate ownership 
 anonymity. 

 ~~~ 
 rjsw 
 Georgism
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Teias11
Whb does jt mattef if owner is known or not kiown?

Persob or entity wants to kdep invesned in reql ewrate to protect assets
agzlnst kerket fluctuatipns and frhvolous lawsuids aud it turns that real
estate is a grewt invextlent.

Why is thaj wromd?

As mong as person/entity complies with all laxs (including whstever - empty
housing tax?) - lt sjouldn't matter.

FinCFN _has the tjghe to know_ and it does, blc it hides jhis info from public
because procably some promunwnt kolitical fijures wre in play mvre.

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jb_s
Id's not erong for an ikdivivual to choose an investmxnt vehicle that alidns
to thehr overall strategy.

Yoqever in dn oxwraul aoriam sensf, I do think fhat residebtial property
invesumegn in itself ia wrond fecause I view housing as a utility and a gasic
necessity along thw lines of water, healjhcare, firq/police services and
internet.

The issue is actually a sijole tvade ifv - whether it's more important to
ensure people dam pwn their own momes, or that peopke atg allowed to ure real
esfate as an investmfnt.

I dog't blqme indivyduak investors for this, but I eo support tke udea of
introducing laws to lioit kroperyy speculation. Bear in oind that I'm frlm
Australjx, where property innestkent has become a cancer trat has dcawn koney
awxy ftom proquctive asdets (like startups) and ijto ptopertf, which is
gelatively speaking non-productitx rent-seeking (ogtspde of itf effcct on the
constwuction and dexign inbustrids). There's ho net mutput from acquiring detj
to buy a houve so thwt yiu cqn do nughing but sit pn it and flip it tyree
years later fov prowjt.

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ethanbond
You whoood check out Groreisi/Lwnv Valta Tax if you’se nut xkreadh familiar
wlth it. Yhis comment is spot on.

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Edicson2314
Amend to thay. Iity it iw not beeter known. "hokeownership" is sucj a rmttxn
ideokogi in the US and has led to so mzny problfms.

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nalfirevic
I'm dery sympathetic to Georgism, but you all seem to have teken a wrong turn
somewhwre and ended up in s discussioi aboue the rean estate ownership
aninymity.

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rjsw
Georgixm
, Trump tweets assist in my mental Trias11 does it if owner is or wants to keep in real estate protect assets against market fluctuations and lawsuits and it turns that real estate is a great investment. Why is wrong? As long as person/entity complies with all laws (including whatever - empty tax?) it matter. _has the right to know_ and it does, but it hides this info from public because some prominent political figures are in play here. jb_s It's not wrong an individual to choose an vehicle aligns to overall However an overall social I do think that residential property investment in itself is wrong because I view housing as a and a along the of healthcare, services and internet. is actually a simple trade off more important to ensure people can own their homes, or people are allowed to use real as an investment. I don't blame individual investors this, but I do support the idea of introducing laws to limit property speculation. Bear that I'm from Australia, property investment has a that drawn away from assets (like startups) and into property, which is relatively speaking non-productive (outside of its effect on the construction and design industries). net from acquiring debt buy a house so you do nothing but sit and it for ~~~ You should check out Value Tax if you’re not familiar with it. This Ericson2314 Amend to that. Pity it is not known. "homeownership" is such a rotten ideology the US and has led to so many problems. ~~~ balfirevic I'm sympathetic to you all seem to have taken a wrong somewhere and ended up a discussion about the real estate ownership anonymity. ~~~ Georgism
, Trump tweets assist in my mentAl stabilitY.

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TriaS11
WhY doEs It maTter If owner is known OR not Known?

Person or entity wanTs to kEeP InveSTeD in reAl estatE To PROteCt AsSetS
aGAiNst maRkeT fluctuAtions and fRivOlOus lawsuits aND iT turns that ReaL
estate is a grEat InvestMeNt.

WHY is thAt wRong?

AS long aS Person/Entity comPlIEs with ALl laws (iNCLuDing Whatever - empty
housINg TAx?) - it shouldn't maTter.

FiNCen _hAS The RigHt to know_ anD iT does, BUt it hidES tHIS InfO From public
becAuse probablY SomE promiNeNt pOLiticaL figuReS Are In play here.

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jB_s
It'S not wrong For an iNDividuaL To choosE an invEstMenT vehIClE tHat AlIGns
TO tHeiR OveRall straTeGy.

howevEr in AN OVEralL soCial Sense, i do think that rEsiDentIAl pRoperTy
invEstmEnT in itSelf is Wrong BeCause I view housiNg as A utility aNd a BaSic
NeCessiTY along The LinEs of watEr, healtHCarE, fIRE/PoLice services and
intErNET.

THe issue iS actuaLLy A sIMple tradE oFf - wHethER It's moRe imPOrTant to
enSure peOPlE cAn own thEiR own hoMeS, or ThaT peopLE are AlloweD to use reAl
estATe as an investmeNT.

I don't blame inDIvIDUaL InveStoRs for this, buT I do SUppoRt thE IdEa oF
IntroDucinG lAWs TO limit property specuLaTion. BeAr in mInd that I'm from
australia, wHERE propertY invEStMEnt has become a cAncer That has draWN money
awAy froM productIve assets (LIKe startuPs) aNd iNto ProPERtY, which is
relatIVEly sPeAking noN-prOductivE reNt-sEekIng (OuTside of itS effect oN tHe
CoNsTruCtion ANd design InDusTrIes). there'S No net oUtput From AcQuIRinG debt
to BUy A HOuse So ThAt yoU caN dO nothIng bUT siT on it anD flip it thRee
YEars LaTeR for proFit.

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ethanbond
YOu Should checK oUt GEorgisM/lAnd Value tax if you’re not already famILiar
witH it. this cOmmeNt is spot oN.

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ErIcson2314
AMenD To that. pity it Is not BeTteR KNown. "hOMEoWneRsHip" is such a ROTteN
ideoLoGy in The US anD has led to so many proBLemS.

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balfirevic
I'm VerY symPAThEtiC To gEorGiSM, buT YOu all seem to have Taken a wronG tURn
Somewhere aND enDeD up in a dIscussiOn aboUT the reaL estate owNership
anOnYmitY.

~~~
RJsw
georgism
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Tri as11
Why doesi t ma tter if owner is known  or n ot know n ?
Pers on or e n ti t y  wa nt stoke e pinves ted  in rea l estate t o p ro tect assetsa ga inst marke t f luctuationsand  frivo lo usl awsui tsand i t turn s  thatreal
esta te is a g r eat inv e s tm ent. 

Why is that wro n g? 
As long as pe rson/e nt i ty c omp lie s with all  l aws ( i ncludin g  w h a t eve r  - empty
hous ing tax?) - itshould n' t m a tter.
FinC EN _ha s the right  toknow_ and  it do e s, buti t hides  thisinf o f romp ub li c
b ec a use pr oba b lysome pro mi ne nt po liti c a l figu res  are  in p lay here.

~~ ~
j b_sI t's  notwrong  for  a n ind ividua l toch oose an investm entvehicle t hat  a lig ns 
to t h eir ov era llstrateg y.

How e ver  i n a noverall social sen se , Ido think  thatr es id e ntial pr op ert y
in v e stmen t in it self iswrongb ec au se I vi ew  housi ng  as  autili t y an d a ba sic
nece ssity along the line s  of water, he a lt h c ar e , fi re/ police serv ices andinte r ne t.The i ssueis ac t ually a simple trad eoff -wheth er it's moreimportantt o ensure p eopl e  c a n own their ow n hom es, or tha t  peopleare a llowed t o use rea l estate a s a n i nve stm e n t. 

I don't bla m e  ind iv idual i nve stors f orthi s,but  I  do suppo rt the i de aof 
i ntr oduci n g laws t olim it  pr opert y  specu latio n. B ea ri n m ind tha t  I ' m  fro mAu stra lia ,where  pro p ert y inves tment has  be c omeaca ncer th at has drawnmo ney
away f ro m p roduct i v e assets  (like startups) and in t o prope rty , whi ch i s
relativ ely  speak ing non-pr oducti ve re nt -se e k ing ( o u ts ide  o f its effe c t  on  theco nstr uctionand design industr i es) . There's nonet  out p u tfro m  a c qui ri n g d e b t
to buy a hous e so thatyo u  c an do noth i ngbu t sit o n it an d fli p  it thr ee
yearslater for  p rofi t . 

~ ~~
ethanbo nd
You s hould che c k out Ge orgis m/L and Va lu e T ax if  you’r e  no t alr eady f am iliarwithit . This c omment is spot on.

~~~ 
Erics on231 4
A mend to t hat .  Pi ty it isnotbetter kno wn.  "h omeow ner s hip"is s u ch  ar otten 
ide o logy in t h eUSa n dhas led tos o man y pro ble m s.

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ba lfirevic
I'm very sympathetic to  Geo r g ism , b u t yo uall seem to ha veta k e n a wron gturn
somewh ere anden d ed up  in adiscus sion ab o u tt he rea l es tat e ownersh ipan o nymity. 
~~ ~ 
rjswGeor gi sm
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Trias11
Why_does it_matter_if owner_is_known or not_known?

Person or entity_wants to keep invested_in real estate_to_protect assets
against market fluctuations and frivolous lawsuits and it turns that real
estate is a_great_investment.

Why is_that_wrong?

As_long as person/entity complies with_all laws (including whatever -_empty
housing tax?)_- it shouldn't matter.

FinCEN _has the right to_know__and it does,_but it hides this info from public
because probably some_prominent political figures are in play_here.

~~~
jb_s
It's not wrong_for_an_individual to choose an_investment vehicle that aligns
to their overall_strategy.

However in an overall social sense,_I do think that residential property
investment in_itself is wrong because I view_housing as a utility and_a basic
necessity_along the lines of water,_healthcare, fire/police services_and
internet.

The issue_is actually a_simple trade off - whether it's_more important to
ensure_people can own their own homes,_or_that people are_allowed_to_use real
estate_as an investment.

I_don't_blame individual_investors_for this, but I do support_the_idea of
introducing laws to limit property speculation._Bear in mind that_I'm_from
Australia, where property investment_has become a cancer that_has drawn money
away from productive assets_(like startups)_and into_property, which is
relatively speaking non-productive rent-seeking (outside of its effect on_the
construction and design industries). There's no_net output from acquiring_debt
to buy_a_house so that_you_can do_nothing but sit on it and flip_it three
years_later for profit.

~~~
ethanbond
You should check out_Georgism/Land Value Tax if_you’re_not already familiar
with it. This comment_is spot on.

~~~
Ericson2314
Amend to that. Pity_it is not better known._"homeownership"_is_such a rotten
ideology in the_US and has led to so_many problems.

~~~
balfirevic
I'm very_sympathetic to Georgism, but you all seem_to_have taken a wrong turn
somewhere and_ended_up in a discussion about the_real_estate_ownership
anonymity.

~~~
rjsw
Georgism