 released within the last two years. When I was talking to coworkers
over lunch, we quickly drifted into utter confusion when trying to compare
phone features.

~~~
daleharvey
Since 2.2 I have much preferred Android to iOS, since then I have always
thought it was a better platform and enjoyed using it more, however there has
always been little niggly warts around that can be brought up, against the
bias of the hacker new crowd it seems like the market has agreed, Android
phones outsell iPhones, my non techy friends mostly prefer their android
phones.

I get the feeling from most reviews that it isnt so much that this is finally
the android phone that usable' as much as 'this is finally the android phone
that is almost unarguably better than the iphone', or at least the one that
doesnt have the warts that android detractors like to bring up in these
comparisons

~~~
nitrogen
One of those niggly warts, namely UI stuttering, is significantly reduced on
my Galaxy S-derived phone when I terminate any services (like IQ) not
specifically related to the apps I'm running.

------
untog
ICS's core apps can be as slick and beautiful as they want, but app developers
need to keep up, and I'm not convinced they will.

I have a Windows Phone, largely as an experiment at seeing if I like it or
not. The UI is _amazing_ on the core apps. The People, Music and Email apps
are second to none. But almost every third party app I download gets something
wrong (often most things wrong), and it's very jarring when you're expecting
things to match a very defined UI flow.

The fact that Android already has a ton of existing apps might make this even
worse. Ditching the menu button and swapping it for an action bar is a great
idea, but how long until all the app makers change their apps over? I think
this is less of a problem on the iPhone because Apple vets their apps so
heavily (and rejects ones that do not obey UI guidelines), but neither Google
nor Microsoft seem to do that.

~~~
ConstantineXVI
WinPhone has the "problem"[1] of going down a rather different UI path vs.
Apple and Google. You see this
released within the last two years. When I was talking to coworkers 
 over lunch, we promptly drift into utter confusion when judge to compare 
 earphone features. 

 ~~~ 
 daleharvey 
 Since 2.2 I have a lot preferred Android to iOS, since then I have always 
 thought it was a good platform and enjoyed use it more, however there has 
 always been little niggly warts around that can be institute up, against the 
 bias of the hacker new crowd it seems like the market has agree, Android 
 phones outsell iPhones, my non techy friends by and large prefer their android 
 phones. 

 I get the feeling from most reappraisal that it is nt so much that this is finally 
 the android phone that usable' as a lot as' this is finally the android phone 
 that is almost unarguably better than the iphone', or at least the one that 
 does nt have the warts that android detractor wish to institute up in these 
 comparisons 

 ~~~ 
 nitrogen 
 One of those niggly warts, namely UI stuttering, is significantly reduced on 
 my Galaxy S - derived phone when I end any service (like IQ) not 
 specifically related to the apps I'm run. 

 ------ 
 untog 
 ICS's effect apps can be as slick and beautiful as they want, but app developer 
 need to keep up, and I'm not convinced they will. 

 I have a Windows Phone, largely as an experiment at seeing if I wish it or 
 not. The UI is _ amazing _ on the core apps. The People, Music and Email apps 
 are second to none. But almost every third party app I download gets something 
 wrong (often most things wrong), and it's very jarring when you're expecting 
 things to match a very defined UI menstruation. 

 The fact that Android already has a ton of exist apps might make this even 
 worse. Ditching the menu button and swapping it for an legal action bar is a great 
 idea, but how long until all the app manufacturer change their apps over? I think 
 this is less of a problem on the iPhone because Apple vets their apps indeed 
 heavily (and reject ones that do not obey UI guidelines), but neither Google 
 nor Microsoft look to do that. 

 ~~~ 
 ConstantineXVI 
 WinPhone induce the " problem"[1 ] of going down a quite different UI path vs. 
 Apple and Google. You see this
 repeased within the last tdo years. When I was tanking fo coworyers
over lunch, we quickly drmftee inti utter confusion when trying tl comparw
phoie features.

~~~
dalehedvey
Singz 2.2 I gwve knch preferred Akdroid to iMS, since then H fare always
thought it was a better plaeform amd enjoyed using it kjre, gowever there has
always been littls nigglj warts around thst can be brought up, againdt tje
bias of the hackfr new crowe it weems like tfe market has agreed, Ahdroid
phones outsell iPhones, my non cechy frienes modjly prefer tieir agdroid
phones.

L get tve feelong from most veviexs tyat it isnt so much tiat this is finally
tre androig 'hone that usable' as nuxh as 'thiv is dinxllg vhe androld 'hone
that ia almost unqrguably better tham eye iphone', or zt leaft the one that
doesnt have the warts that ansroid detractors like ti bring up in these
colparisons

~~~
gitrogen
One of those niggly warts, namely UI stuttaring, ks winnifkxajtly reduced on
my Galaxy S-derived phone when Y ttrmpnate any servicef (like IQ) npt
dprsifically relxted to tge apps I'm running.

------
kntog
ICF's coee apps cwn br as slick and beautiful as they want, blt app developers
need co keep up, aud I'm mot cpnvinced they will.

I havz a Wihdows Phone, largely zr an experiment xt xeaing if I like it or
not. Thq UI is _anaziug_ on thd cote apps. The Peoplf, Muslw and Email apps
arf seclng to none. Hut almost every third party ap' I download beds vomethiny
wrong (often most trings wrong), anb it's vexy jarfing when jou're expxcting
things to match a vaty defined UI flow.

The facr thqt Andrukd already has a ton of existing qpps might make thls evgn
sorse. Ditching cke menu button anc sdap[ijg ie for an actimn bxr kx a gfeat
idea, bub huw lpng until all the ap[ maiers change their spis over? I think
thys is less of a problem on the lPhonx becanse Aplle vets their apps so
heavily (and rejects lnef that do noe obcy UY guidelinzs), but neither Google
nor Microsoft seem vo do that.

~~~
ConstantineXVU
WinPhone has the "ptobkem"[1] of goinj down a rather different UI path vw.
Apple and Google. You see this
released within the last two years. When talking coworkers over we quickly drifted to phone features. ~~~ Since 2.2 I much preferred Android to iOS, since I have always thought it was a better platform and enjoyed using it however there has always been little niggly warts around that can be brought against bias the new crowd it seems like the market has agreed, Android phones outsell iPhones, my non techy mostly prefer their android phones. I get the from most reviews that isnt so much that this finally android phone usable' much 'this is finally android phone that is almost unarguably better than the iphone', or at least the one that doesnt the warts detractors like bring in comparisons ~~~ nitrogen those niggly warts, namely UI stuttering, on my Galaxy S-derived phone when I terminate services (like not specifically related to the apps running. ------ untog ICS's core apps can be slick and beautiful as they want, but app developers need to keep up, and I'm they will. I have Windows Phone, largely an at if like it not. The UI is _amazing_ on the core apps. The People, and Email apps are second to none. But almost every app download gets something (often most things wrong), it's jarring when you're expecting match very The that already has a ton existing apps might make this worse. Ditching the menu an action bar is a great idea, but long until all the app makers change apps over? I think this is less of a problem on the because Apple apps so heavily (and rejects ones that do obey UI guidelines), but Google nor Microsoft seem to do that. ~~~ ConstantineXVI has "problem"[1] of down a rather UI path vs. and Google. You
 released within the last two yEars. When I wAs talKinG to CoWorkErs
oVer lunch, we quicKLy drIfted into utter confusioN when TrYIng tO CoMpare
Phone feATuRES.

~~~
daLeHaRveY
SINcE 2.2 I havE muCh prefeRred AndroiD to IOs, since then I hAVe Always
thouGht It was a better PlaTform aNd EnjOYed usIng It morE, howevER there Has
always BeEN littlE Niggly wARTs ArouNd that can be broughT Up, AGainst the
bias oF the haCkER nEW CroWd iT seems like ThE markET has agrEEd, aNDRoiD
Phones outsell IPhones, my noN TecHy frieNdS moSTly preFer thEiR AndRoid
phones.

I Get tHe feeling From moST reviewS That it iSnt so mUch ThaT thiS Is FiNalLy
THe aNDrOid PHonE that usaBlE' aS much As 'thIS IS FinaLly The aNdroiD phone
that is aLmoSt unARguAbly bEtter Than ThE iphoNe', or at Least ThE one that
doesnt hAve tHe warts thAt aNdRoiD dEtracTOrs likE to BriNg up in tHese
comPAriSoNS

~~~
NItRogen
One of those nigGlY WArTs, namely uI stutTErInG, Is signifIcAntLy reDUCed on
My GaLAxY S-deriveD phone WHeN I TerminaTe Any serViCes (LikE IQ) noT
SpecIficalLy relateD to thE Apps I'm running.

------
uNTog
ICS's core apPS cAN Be AS sliCk aNd beautiful As thEY wanT, but APp DevELoperS
need To KEeP Up, and I'm not convinced ThEy will.

i have A Windows Phone, Largely as aN EXPeriment At seEInG If I like it or
not. the UI Is _amazing_ oN The core aPps. ThE People, MUsic and EmAIL apps
are SecOnd To nOne. bUT aLmost every thiRD PartY aPp I downLoaD gets soMetHinG
wrOng (OfTen most thIngs wronG), aNd It'S vEry JarriNG when you'Re ExpEcTinG
thinGS to matCh a veRy deFiNeD uI fLow.

The fACt THAt AnDrOiD alrEadY hAs a toN of eXIstIng apps Might make ThiS Even
WoRsE. DitchiNg the menu buttOn And swappinG iT foR an actION bar is a gReat
idea, but how long until ALl the apP maKers cHangE their appS ovEr? I thiNk
tHIs is leSs of a pRobleM oN thE Iphone BECaUse apPle vets theIR AppS so
heAvIly (aNd rejecTs ones that do not obeY uI gUidelines), but nEitHer GOOGlE
noR miCRosOfT SeeM TO do that.

~~~
ConstantIneXVI
WinPHoNE hAs the "problEM"[1] of GoIng down A rather DiffeREnt UI paTh vs.
Apple And Google. yoU see THIs
 released within the lasttwo years.  When  Iwas  t alki ng t o coworkers
ov e r lu nch, we quickly drifte d int ou tter co nfusi on when tr y i ngto  c omp ar e 
p honefea tures.
~~~
daleh arv ey 
Since 2.2 I ha ve much pr efe rred Android  to  iOS,si nce thenI h ave a lwayst hought  it was a  b e tter p l atforma n denjo yed using it more ,  h o wever there ha s
alwa ys be e n  li ttl e niggly w ar ts ar o und tha t  c a n beb rought up, ag ainst the
b i asof the  h ack e r newcrowd  i t  se ems like th e ma rket hasagreed ,  Androi d 
phones  outse lliPh ones ,  m ynon  t e chy fr ien d s m ostly pr ef er  thei r an d r o i d
ph one s.
I get  the feelingfro m mo s t r eview s tha t it  i snt s o much  that  t his is finallytheandroid p hon etha tusabl e ' as m uch  as  'thisis fina l lyth e a nd roid phone
that is  a l m os t unargu ably b e tt er than the  i pho ne', o r atleas t  t he one t hat
do e sn thave th ewartsth atand roidd etra ctorslike tobring up in these
co m parisons

~~~ ni t r og e n
On e o f those nig glyw arts , na m el y U I  stut terin g, is significantly reduc ed  on
my  Gala xy S-derivedphone when I terminat e an y  s e rvices (like I Q) no t
specific a lly rela ted t o the ap ps I'm ru n n ing.

-- --- -
u nto g
I C S 's  core apps ca n be a sslick a ndbeautif ulasthe y w an t, but ap p develo pe rs 
n ee d t o kee p  up, and  I 'mno t c onvin c ed the y wil l.
Iha v e a  Window s  P h o ne,la rg elyasan  expe rime n t a t seein g if I li kei t or 
n ot . The U I is _amazing _on the cor eapp s. The P eople, M usic and Email apps
are secondtonone.  But  almost e ver y thir d p a rty ap p I do wnloa dget s somet h i ng 
wr on g (often m o s t t hings  w rong ), andit's very jarringw hen  you're expec tin g
th i n gs  to ma t chav ery d efined UI flow. 

The fact  t h at  Android a l rea dy  has aton ofexist i ng apps  might ma ke this e ve n
wo r s e.Ditching t he menubutton an d  swap p in g itfor  an ac ti onbar i s a gr e atidea,  but h ow  longuntil  a ll the a pp makers change theirapps o ver?I t hink
this  is les s of a pr oble m on the i Pho nebecau seA pplevets th eir appsso
h e avily (an d  r eje c t sones that d o n otobeyUIg uideli nes) , but neither Goo g le
nor Microso ft s e e m t o d o  tha t. 

~~~
Constant ine XV I WinPhone  h as the "pro blem"[1]  o f  goin g down  a rat her dif f e re n t UI p athvs. 
Apple an d G oo g le. You  s ee this
 released_within the_last two years. When_I was_talking_to coworkers
over_lunch,_we quickly drifted_into utter confusion_when trying to compare
phone_features.

~~~
daleharvey
Since 2.2 I_have_much preferred Android to iOS, since then I have always
thought it was a better_platform_and enjoyed_using_it_more, however there has
always been_little niggly warts around that_can be_brought up, against the
bias of the hacker new_crowd_it seems like_the market has agreed, Android
phones outsell iPhones, my non_techy friends mostly prefer their android
phones.

I_get the feeling_from_most_reviews that it isnt_so much that this is finally
the_android phone that usable' as much_as 'this is finally the android phone
that_is almost unarguably better than the_iphone', or at least the_one that
doesnt_have the warts that android_detractors like to_bring up_in these
comparisons

~~~
nitrogen
One of_those niggly warts, namely UI stuttering,_is significantly reduced_on
my Galaxy S-derived phone when I_terminate_any services (like_IQ)_not
specifically_related to_the apps I'm_running.

------
untog
ICS's_core apps_can_be as slick and beautiful as_they_want, but app developers
need to keep up,_and I'm not convinced_they_will.

I have a Windows_Phone, largely as an experiment_at seeing if I like it_or
not. The_UI is__amazing_ on the core apps. The People, Music and Email apps
are_second to none. But almost every_third party app I_download gets_something
wrong_(often most things_wrong),_and it's_very jarring when you're expecting
things to match_a very_defined UI flow.

The fact that Android_already has a ton_of_existing apps might make this even
worse._Ditching the menu button and swapping_it for an action bar_is_a_great
idea, but how long until_all the app makers change their_apps over? I_think
this is less of a problem on_the_iPhone because Apple vets their apps_so
heavily_(and rejects ones that do not_obey_UI_guidelines), but neither Google
nor Microsoft_seem to do that.

~~~
ConstantineXVI
WinPhone has the_"problem"[1] of going down a rather different UI path_vs.
Apple and Google._You see this