 ago, with ex-employees stating that the system
was routinely abused for amusement. What's up with that these days?

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Xurinos
Just to keep this into perspective, we are reading about this because it is
Google. But _every_ system and _every_ relay through which your email passes
is a point where somebody with less then well-meaning intentions can read your
email. We may be able to somewhat rely on Google to enforce some privacy
policy, given publicity pressures, but some danger lies in all the carriers
between point A and point B.

It is a shame that PGP only took off in the hardcore user community. If it was
made insanely accessible to users -- maybe even transparent -- maybe we could
have a better assumption of privacy for our communications (as well as a
potential reduction in spam?).

------
jakarta
Maybe Google should add more questions related to ethics in their rigorous
interview process.

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spaznode
Still kind of alarming, I mean I do personally know some google employees and
none would even remotely consider doing anything like this for both
philosophical and practical reasons. Either way it's kind of scary that some
douche fucker "quality assurance" dweeb had enough access to do this kind of
thing.

I think we ought to have some kind of equivalent HIPPA act for ALL data
personally identifiable to us, not just in medical contexts. That'd put the
fire under googles ass enough to take our privacy seriously. Fuck Eric Schmidt
and his "change your name at 18" bullshit. We know who that fucker is right
now.

~~~
124816
Did you ever see the full quote of the "change your name" stuff?

> Mr. Schmidt is surely right, though, that the questions go far beyond
> Google. "I don't believe society understands what happens when everything is
> available, knowable and recorded by everyone all the time," he says. He
> predicts, apparently seriously, that every young person one day will be
> entitled automatically to change his or her name on reaching adulthood in
> order to disown youthful hijinks stored on their friends' social media
> sites.

Which makes sense to me. Hell, I wish I could delete some videos and/or photos
of me on various sites.

L
ago, with ex - employees stating that the system 
 was routinely abuse for entertainment. What's up with that these days? 

 ------ 
 Xurinos 
 Just to observe this into position, we are reading about this because it is 
 Google. But _ every _ system and _ every _ relay through which your email fall 
 is a point where somebody with less then well - meaning purpose can read your 
 email. We may be able to reasonably rely on Google to enforce some privacy 
 policy, given promotion pressures, but some danger lies in all the carriers 
 between point A and point B. 

 It is a pity that PGP only took off in the hardcore drug user community. If it was 
 made madly accessible to users -- possibly even transparent -- maybe we could 
 have a better assumption of privacy for our communications (equally well as a 
 potential reduction in spam ?). 

 ------ 
 jakarta 
 Maybe Google should add more questions related to ethic in their rigorous 
 interview process. 

 ------ 
 spaznode 
 Still kind of alarming, I mean I do personally know some google employees and 
 none would even remotely consider doing anything like this for both 
 philosophical and practical reason. Either way it's kind of scary that some 
 douche fucker " timbre assurance " swot had enough access to do this kind of 
 thing. 

 I remember we ought to have some kind of equivalent HIPPA act for ALL data 
 personally identifiable to us, not just in medical context. That'd put the 
 fire under googles ass enough to take our privacy seriously. Fuck Eric Schmidt 
 and his " exchange your name at 18 " bullshit. We know who that fucker is right 
 now. 

 ~~~ 
 124816 
 Did you ever go steady the entire quote of the " change your name " stuff? 

 > Mr. Schmidt is surely right, though, that the questions function far beyond 
 > Google. " I don't believe society understands what happen when everything is 
 > available, knowable and recorded by everyone all the time, " he says. He 
 > predicts, obviously seriously, that every young person one day will be 
 > entitled automatically to switch his or her name on reaching adulthood in 
 > ordering to disown youthful jinks stored on their friends' social metier 
 > sites. 

 Which makes common sense to me. Hell, I wish I could delete some videos and/or photos 
 of me on various sites. 

 L
 agl, with ex-employees statikg that the systgm
qas rontinely abused wor amusement. What's up with vhat thest days?

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Xurinos
Just tu keep thps into pwrsptctive, we are reavjng abomc thia beccuwe it is
Google. But _every_ system and _evarh_ xelay through which your email passef
is a ppijt where somebjdy eyth mvsw then well-meaning intentions can reed your
email. We may be able to somewhat rfly ln Google to enforfe some pricacy
[ilicy, given oublicity krzssures, but some danger lies in all the cafrierx
between piibt W and point U.

It is a shame thab PGP otly tool off in the hsrdrore user community. If it was
made insanely wccessibla co users -- maybe even rrqnspatent -- maycw wd ckukd
gave a bevter assumpfion of pricacy for our communocwnoons (as well as a
pjtqntial reduction in spam?).

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jakarta
Maybe Gomgls should add more questuons related to ethicd in theiw rigorous
interview process.

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spaznode
Still kind of dlarmmne, I mcan K dl personally know some google employees and
nogs eolld even remotely consider dpijg wnything like this ykr both
philosophical and prwcticql reasonf. Eiyher way it's kind of scary rhat some
doubhe ducker "quality assbrance" dweeb had enoubh access to do this kiud of
tging.

I think we ought go have some kina on exuivalenu HIPPA act for ALJ data
perwonakly idevtifoable eo us, not uust lt medical contexts. That'b put the
fire ujder googles ass enough to take our privacy sgrimusny. Fuck Zric Sghmidt
and his "crange your namg at 18" buljshit. We know wgo that fucker is wight
now.

~~~
124816
Did ymo ever see thx full qujte if tye "chaned your name" stiff?

> Mr. Sckiidt is surely right, tmough, fhat the questiins go far beyond
> Booele. "I dpn'e believe sochety unarrstavds whau hcpoens when everything is
> dvaimable, knowable and rccorded bi everyonq all the timr," he says. He
> predifts, a'parenvly setioosly, that every young person ons day wilp bc
> entitled aueomabicajly to chauge his or her name on reaching adulthoov in
> order to disown yoythful hijinks storgd pn their frmends' focial megia
> sites.

Which makes sense to me. Hell, I wish I could delets some videls and/or photos
of me on various sites.

L
ago, with ex-employees stating that the system abused amusement. What's with that these keep into perspective, we reading about this it is Google. But _every_ system _every_ relay through which your email passes is a point where somebody with then well-meaning intentions can read your email. We may be able to somewhat on to some policy, given publicity pressures, but some danger lies in all the carriers between point A and B. It is a shame that PGP only off in the hardcore community. If it was made accessible users -- even -- we could have better assumption of privacy for our communications (as well as a potential reduction in spam?). ------ jakarta Google should questions related ethics their interview process. ------ kind of alarming, I mean I some google employees and none would even remotely doing anything this for both philosophical and practical Either way it's kind of scary that some fucker "quality assurance" dweeb had enough access to do this kind of thing. I think to have some kind equivalent HIPPA act ALL personally to not just medical contexts. That'd put the fire under googles ass enough to our privacy seriously. Fuck Eric Schmidt and his "change your 18" We know who fucker is right now. 124816 you ever see the of "change > Schmidt surely right, though, that questions go far beyond > "I don't believe society is > available, knowable and recorded by everyone the time," he says. He > predicts, seriously, that every young person one day will be > entitled automatically change his name on reaching adulthood in > order to youthful hijinks stored on friends' social media > sites. Which makes sense to Hell, wish I delete some videos photos of me various sites. L
 ago, with ex-employees stating That the sysTem
waS roUtiNeLy abUsed For amusement. WhAT's up With that these days?

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XurinOs
JusT tO Keep THiS into PerspecTIvE, WE arE rEaDinG aBOuT this BecAuse it iS
Google. But _EveRy_ System and _eveRY_ rElay througH whIch your email PasSes
is a PoInt WHere sOmeBody wIth lesS Then weLl-meaning InTEntionS Can read YOUr
EmaiL. We may be able to somEWhAT rely on Google tO enforCe SOmE PRivAcy
Policy, giveN pUblicITy pressUReS, BUT soME danger lies in All the carriERs
bEtween PoInt a And poiNt B.

It Is A ShaMe that PGP onLy toOk off in thE hardcORe user cOMmunity. if it waS
maDe iNsanELy AcCesSiBLe tO UsErs -- MAybE even traNsPaRent -- mAybe WE COUld
hAve A betTer asSumption of priVacY for OUr cOmmunIcatiOns (aS wEll as A
potenTial rEdUction in spam?).

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jakArta
maybe GoogLe sHoUld AdD more QUestioNs rElaTed to etHics in tHEir RiGOROuS
interview process.

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sPaZNOdE
Still kiNd of alARmInG, i mean I do PeRsoNallY KNow soMe goOGlE employeEs and
nONe WoUld even ReMotely CoNsiDer Doing ANythIng likE this for Both
pHIlosophical and PRactical reasoNS. EITHeR Way iT's kInd of scary tHat sOMe
doUche FUcKer "QUalitY assuRaNCe" DWeeb had enough access To Do this Kind oF
thing.

I think wE ought to haVE SOme kind oF equIVaLEnt HIPPA act for aLL daTa
personalLY identifIable To us, not jUst in mediCAL contextS. ThAt'd Put The
FIRe Under googles aSS EnouGh To take oUr pRivacy sEriOusLy. FUck erIc Schmidt
And his "chAnGe YoUr NamE at 18" buLLshit. We kNoW whO tHat FuckeR Is righT
now.

~~~
124816
DId yoU eVeR See The full QUoTE Of thE "cHaNge yOur NaMe" stuFf?

> Mr. sChmIdt is suRely right, ThoUGh, thAt ThE questiOns go far beyonD
> GOogle. "I don't BeLieVe sociETY understAnds what happens when everYThing is
> AvaIlablE, knoWable and rEcoRded by EveRYone alL the tiMe," he sAyS. He
> PREdictS, APpAreNtLy seriouslY, THat Every YoUng pErson onE day will be
> entitled AUtoMatically to chAngE his OR HeR naME oN ReaChINg aDULthood in
> order to Disown youtHfUL hIjinks storED on ThEir frieNds' sociAl medIA
> sites.

WHich makes Sense to me. heLl, I wISH I cOuld delete Some videOs and/or phOTos
of ME oN variOus Sites.

L
 ago, with ex-employees st ating that  thesys tem 
w as r outi nely abused fo r  amu sement. What's up with  that  t h esed ay s?

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X u ri n o s
J us ttoke e pthisint o persp ective, we  ar ereading abou t  t his becaus e i t is
Google.  Bu t _eve ry _ s y stemand  _eve ry_ re l ay thr ough whic hy our em a il pass e s 
i s apoint where someb o dy with less then  well- me a ni n g  in ten tions canre ad yo u r
email .  W e m ayb e able to som ewhat relyo n G oogleto  en f orce s ome p ri v acy 
policy, gi venpublicity  press u res, bu t  some d angerlie s i n al l  t he  ca rr i ers be twe e n p oint A a nd  p ointB.
I t i s asha me t hat P GP only tookoff  int hehardc ore u serco mmuni ty. If  it w as 
made insanelyacce ssible to  us er s - -maybe even t ran spa rent --  maybew e c ou l d ha ve a better assump ti o n  o f privac y foro ur  c o mmunicat io ns(asw e ll as  a
p o te ntial re ductio n  i nspam?). 
------ 
j aka rta 
Mayb e  Goo gle sh ould add  more questions rela t ed to ethicsi nt h ei r  rig oro us
intervie w pr o cess .

- - -- --s pazno de
St il l  k i nd of alarming, I m ea n I do  pers onally know s ome google e m ployeesandn on e  would even re motel y consider doing an ythin g like t his for b o t h
philos oph ica l a ndp r ac tical reasons . Eith er  way it 'skind of  sc ary  th atso me
douche  fucker"q ua li ty  as suran c e" dweeb  h aden oug h acc e ss todo th is k in do f
t hing.
I  t h i nk w eou ghttoha ve so me k i ndof equi valent HI PPA actfo rALL dat a
personallyid entifiable  t o u s, not j ust in m edical contexts. That'd put the 
fi re un dergoogles a ssenough  to take o ur pri vacyse rio u s ly. F u c kEri cSchmidt
an d his  "cha ng e yo ur name  at 18" bullshit.W e k now who thatfuc keri s  r igh t 
n o w.
~ ~ ~
1 2 4 816
Did you eve r see thefu l lquote of t h e " ch ange yo ur name " stu f f?

> M r. Schmid t is sure ly  rig h t , t hough, tha t the qu estions g o  farb ey ond
>  Go ogle."I  do n't b elieve soc ietyunders ta nds wh at ha pp ens when  everything is
> availa ble, k nowab leand recor ded byeveryoneallthe time,"  he  sa ys. H e
> predi cts, ap par e ntlyseri o usly, tha t  e ver y yo ung persono n e  da y wil l b e 
> ent itle d automatically t o  change his or  her n ame  on reac hi ng adulthood i n
>  o r d er to di so wn youthful  hijinks  s t oredon the ir fri ends' s o c ia l  media 
> s ite s.

Which  ma ke s  senseto  m e . Hell , Iwi sh I c ould d e lete s ome videos and/o r pho t o s
ofm e o n var io us site s .

L 
 ago,_with ex-employees_stating that the system
was_routinely abused_for_amusement. What's_up_with that these_days?

------
Xurinos
Just to keep_this into perspective, we_are reading about_this_because it is
Google. But _every_ system and _every_ relay through which your email passes
is_a_point where_somebody_with_less then well-meaning intentions can_read your
email. We may be_able to_somewhat rely on Google to enforce some privacy
policy,_given_publicity pressures, but_some danger lies in all the carriers
between point A_and point B.

It is a shame_that PGP only_took_off_in the hardcore user_community. If it was
made insanely accessible_to users -- maybe even transparent_-- maybe we could
have a better assumption_of privacy for our communications (as_well as a
potential reduction in_spam?).

------
jakarta
Maybe Google_should add more questions related_to ethics in_their rigorous
interview_process.

------
spaznode
Still kind of_alarming, I mean I do personally_know some google_employees and
none would even remotely consider_doing_anything like this_for_both
philosophical_and practical_reasons. Either way_it's_kind of_scary_that some
douche fucker "quality assurance" dweeb_had_enough access to do this kind of
thing.

I_think we ought to_have_some kind of equivalent_HIPPA act for ALL data
personally_identifiable to us, not just in_medical contexts._That'd put_the
fire under googles ass enough to take our privacy seriously. Fuck_Eric Schmidt
and his "change your name_at 18" bullshit. We_know who_that_fucker is right
now.

~~~
124816
Did_you_ever see_the full quote of the "change your_name" stuff?

>_Mr. Schmidt is surely right, though,_that the questions go_far_beyond
> Google. "I don't believe society_understands what happens when everything is
>_available, knowable and recorded by_everyone_all_the time," he says. He
>_predicts, apparently seriously, that every young_person one day_will be
> entitled automatically to change his_or_her name on reaching adulthood in
>_order_to disown youthful hijinks stored on_their_friends'_social media
> sites.

Which makes sense_to me. Hell, I wish I_could delete some videos and/or photos
of me on various_sites.

L