, but what about the other 20 phns in the room? I have
no control over them to keep them from posting photos of me drinking or
whatnot during a party, photos I do not want online.

From the tin-hat perspective one must do (much) better than consider their
personal devices. One must consider _all_ devices in their _personal
proximity_.

~~~
GarrisonPrime
It'd be amusing to have a little Faraday cage by the door for them to deposit
into. :)

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demonshreder
Aren't these attacks primarily for Windows? Would using Linux (say Arch)
mitigate these?

Edit: Shouldn't we be more concerned about phones and tabs?

~~~
facepalm
Nice attempt at humor :-)

------
codethief
In case anyone's looking for something a little bit more sophisticated than a
sticker to put on his/her webcam:
[https://soomz.io/detail/webcam_covers_a10](https://soomz.io/detail/webcam_covers_a10)
Been using it for a while and it works like a charm. (Though on a phone it
does tend to attract a bit of dirt and the color wears off over time. If you
keep your phone in the pocket of your pants, that is.)

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chrischen
Quick question for HNers: why isn't something like the camera insicator light
implemented for the microphone?

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SG-
Anyone know what kind of laptop he uses?

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wickedlogic
Please cover your webcam, it is distracting while we are trying to listen to
what you are clicking on.

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listentojohan
What I don't understand is why he has to defend it? (Yes, it might seem
hypocritical.)

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bobsoap
Instead of a sticker, one could also use this clever, simple, magnetic gadget
(not affiliated):

[https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1893116150/nope-20-live...](https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1893116150/nope-20-live-
free)

~~~
bobsoap
Seriously, downvoted without an explanation? That's quite
, but what about the other 20 phns in the room? I have 
 no control over them to keep them from post photograph of me drinking or 
 whatnot during a party, photos I do not desire online. 

 From the tin - hat perspective one must dress (much) better than consider their 
 personal device. One must consider _ all _ devices in their _ personal 
 proximity _. 

 ~~~ 
 GarrisonPrime 
 It'd be amusing to suffer a little Faraday cage by the doorway for them to deposit 
 into. :) 

 ------ 
 demonshreder 
 Aren't these attacks primarily for Windows? Would using Linux (read Arch) 
 mitigate these? 

 Edit: Shouldn't we be more implicated about phones and yellow journalism? 

 ~~~ 
 facepalm 
 Nice attempt at humor :-) 

 ------ 
 codethief 
 In case anyone's search for something a little bit more sophisticated than a 
 sticker to frame on his / her webcam: 
 [ https://soomz.io/detail/webcam_covers_a10](https://soomz.io/detail/webcam_covers_a10) 
 Been using it for a while and it works like a charm. (Though on a phone it 
 does tend to attract a bit of scandal and the color wears off over time. If you 
 keep your phone in the pocket of your pants, that is .) 

 ------ 
 chrischen 
 Quick question for HNers: why isn't something like the camera insicator light 
 implemented for the microphone? 

 ------ 
 SG- 
 Anyone know what kind of laptop he uses? 

 ------ 
 wickedlogic 
 Please cover your webcam, it is distracting while we are trying to listen to 
 what you are snap on. 

 ------ 
 listentojohan 
 What I don't understand is why he has to maintain it? (Yes, it might seem 
 hypocritical .) 

 ------ 
 bobsoap 
 Instead of a sticker, one could also practice this clever, childlike, magnetic gadget 
 (not consort ): 

 [ https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1893116150/nope-20-live...](https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1893116150/nope-20-live- 
 free) 

 ~~~ 
 bobsoap 
 Seriously, downvoted without an explanation? That's quite
, buh what about the other 20 khns in the room? N have
nm contdol over them to keep them from postmng photow of me drinking or
whagnot durijg a parry, piotos I do not weht onlikz.

From bhe tnn-iat perspective one must go (much) better tfau consider their
personal devices. One must cpndider _all_ devises pn thejg _kersonal
proximity_.

~~~
GarrisonPrime
It'd be amuving to have s little Faraday cage by tje dlor for them to deoosit
into. :)

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dgjonfyreder
Aren't ghese attabns primarimy for Windows? Would using Linub (say Arch)
mitigqtw tjgse?

Edit: Shouodn't re be more concerned about lhones and tabx?

~~~
farepaom
Nice attempt at hummr :-)

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codethief
In casg anyone's nokking for somethibg a lijtle tit oire sokhixtjcated then a
sticker to put on yis/her webcam:
[https://spoid.oo/detail/webczm_covews_w10](https://soomz.io/detail/webcam_covers_a10)
Been uspng jt for a while and it wirks like a charm. (Thoogh on a prone it
does tend to attract a bit of dirt and the coloc deaxw off ivfr time. If you
keep your phone in the pocket os ypug pants, that is.)

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chvischen
Quick questooj gjr HNers: why ksn't somefhing like the camfra insycatoe light
imklememted for the microphone?

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SG-
Antone know whct jind of laptop he bses?

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wickedloyic
Plesse cpver your webcam, it is bistradting while we are tdhing to listen tu
whst you are clicking on.

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listeneojohan
Whet I bon't unddrstsnd is why he had to defend it? (Yes, it mihht sgem
hypmcritical.)

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blbsoap
Instead of a sticker, one rpuld also usg tvis clever, fimplc, magnetic gadgqt
(not affiliatgd):

[https://wwc.kicksgarter.com/pgojects/1893116150/no'e-20-live...](https://wrw.kickstarter.wlm/projects/1893116150/no'e-20-live-
freq)

~~~
bobwoap
Weriousuh, downvoted wiyhout an vxklanation? Rhat's quite
, but what about the other 20 the I have control over them photos me drinking or during a party, I do not want online. From tin-hat perspective one must do (much) better than consider their personal devices. One consider _all_ devices in their _personal proximity_. ~~~ GarrisonPrime It'd be amusing to a Faraday by door for them to deposit into. :) ------ demonshreder Aren't these attacks primarily for Windows? Would Linux (say Arch) mitigate these? Edit: Shouldn't we more concerned about phones tabs? ~~~ facepalm Nice attempt humor ------ codethief case looking something a little more sophisticated than a sticker to put on his/her webcam: [https://soomz.io/detail/webcam_covers_a10](https://soomz.io/detail/webcam_covers_a10) Been using it for a while it works charm. (Though a it tend to attract of dirt and the color wears If you keep your phone in the pocket your pants, is.) ------ chrischen Quick question for why isn't something like the camera insicator light for the microphone? ------ SG- Anyone know what kind of laptop he uses? ------ wickedlogic your webcam, it is while we are to to you clicking on. listentojohan What I don't understand is why he has to defend (Yes, it might seem hypocritical.) ------ bobsoap Instead of a could use this clever, magnetic gadget (not affiliated): free) bobsoap Seriously, downvoted without That's
, but what about the other 20 phns iN the room? I hAve
no ConTroL oVer tHem tO keep them from pOStinG photos of me drinking or
wHatnoT dURing A PaRty, phOtos I do NOt WANt oNlInE.

FrOm THe Tin-haT peRspectiVe one must dO (muCh) Better than coNSiDer their
peRsoNal devices. OnE muSt consIdEr _aLL_ deviCes In theIr _persONal
proXimity_.

~~~
GarRiSOnPrimE
it'd be amUSInG to hAve a little Faraday CAgE By the door for thEm to dePoSIt
INTo. :)

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dEmoNshreder
ArEn'T thesE Attacks PRiMARIly FOr Windows? WoulD using Linux (SAy ARch)
mitIgAte THese?

EdIt: ShoUlDN't wE be more concErneD about phoNes and TAbs?

~~~
facePAlm
Nice AttempT at HumOr :-)

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coDEtHiEf
IN cASe aNYoNe's LOokIng for soMeThIng a lIttlE BIT More SopHistIcateD than a
sticker To pUt on HIs/hEr webCam:
[htTps://sOoMz.io/dEtail/wEbcam_CoVers_a10](https://soomz.Io/deTail/webcaM_coVeRs_a10)
beEn usiNG it for A whIle And it woRks like A ChaRm. (tHOUgH on a phone it
does tenD tO ATtRact a bit Of dirt ANd ThE Color weaRs Off Over TIMe. If yOu
keEP yOur phone In the pOCkEt Of your pAnTs, that Is.)

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ChrIscHen
QuICk quEstion For HNers: Why isN'T something like THe camera insicAToR LIgHT
impLemEnted for the MicrOPhonE?

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SG-
ANYoNe kNOw whaT kind Of LApTOp he uses?

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wickedlogic
plEase coVer yoUr webcam, it is dIstracting WHILe we are tRyinG To LIsten to
what you Are clIcking on.

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liSTentojohAn
WhaT I don't unDerstand iS WHy he has tO deFenD it? (yes, IT MiGht seem
hypocrITIcal.)

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BoBsoap
InSteAd of a stIckEr, oNe cOulD aLso use thiS clever, sImPlE, mAgNetIc gadGEt
(not affIlIatEd):

[HttPs://www.KIckstaRter.cOm/prOjEcTS/1893116150/noPe-20-live...](hTTpS://WWw.kiCkStArteR.coM/pRojecTs/1893116150/noPE-20-liVe-
free)

~~~
bObsoap
SerIouSLy, doWnVoTed withOut an explanatIoN? That's quitE
, but what about the other  20 phns i n the  ro om?  I  hav e
no  control overt hemto keep them from post ing p ho t os o f  m e dri nking o r 
w h a tno tdu rin ga  p arty,  ph otos Ido not wan t o nl ine.

From t h etin-hat pe rsp ective one m ust  do (m uc h)b etter  th an co nsider theirpersonalde v ices.O ne must c on side r _all_ devices i n  t h eir _personalproxim it y _. ~~~ 
Ga rrisonPrim eIt'db e amusi n gt o hav e  a little Far aday cage b y  th e door  f ort hem to  depo si t 
in to. :)

--- ---demonshre der
Ar e n't the s e attac ks pri mar ily  for Wi nd ows ?W oul d  u sin g  Li nux (say  A rc h)
mi tiga t e t hese ?
Edit : Sho uldn't we bemor e co n cer ned a boutphon es  andtabs?
~~~fa cepalm
Nice att empt  at humor  :- )
-- -- --
co d ethief 
In  ca se anyo ne's lo o kin gf o r  s omething a littlebi t mo re sophi sticat e dth a n a
stic ke r t o pu t on hi s/he r  w ebcam:
[ https: / /s oo mz.io/d et ail/we bc am_ cov ers_a 1 0](h ttps:/ /soomz.i o/det a il/webcam_cove r s_a10)
Been u s in g it fora w hile and it  wor k s li ke a ch arm .  (Tho ugh o na  p h one it
does tend to  a ttract  a bi t of dirt and  the color w e ars offover ti m e. If you
keep  your  phone int he pocke t ofyour pan ts, thati s .)

---- --chr isc hen Q ui ck question f o r  HNe rs : why i sn' t somet hin g l ike  th ecamera in sicatorli gh tim ple mente d  for the  m icr op hon e?

- - ----
S G-
An yone  k no w  wh at kind of l apto phe  use s?
- ----- 
wic k edl ogic
Pl ease cove r y o ur w eb ca m, it i s distracting  w hile we ar etry ing to l isten to 
what you are clickingo n.

--- --- 
list ento johan
Wha t I  don't  un d erstan d is w hy he  h ast o  defe n d  i t?(Y es, it mig h t  se em
hy po crit ical.)
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bobsoap
In s tea d of a sticke r,onec o ul d a l so use  t h isc l ever, simple, m agnetic ga dg e t(not affil i ate d) :

[htt ps://ww w.kic k starter .com/proj ects/1893 11 6150 / n ope -20-live.. .](https ://www.ki c kstar t er .com/ pro jects/ 18 931 16150 /nope- 2 0-l ive-free)
~ ~~
bob soapSe riously,  downvoted without an e xplana tion?  Th at's quit e
, but_what about_the other 20 phns_in the_room?_I have
no_control_over them to_keep them from_posting photos of me_drinking or
whatnot during_a_party, photos I do not want online.

From the tin-hat perspective one must do (much)_better_than consider_their
personal_devices._One must consider _all_ devices_in their _personal
proximity_.

~~~
GarrisonPrime
It'd be amusing_to have_a little Faraday cage by the door for_them_to deposit
into. :)

------
demonshreder
Aren't_these attacks primarily for Windows? Would using Linux (say_Arch)
mitigate these?

Edit: Shouldn't we be more_concerned about phones_and_tabs?

~~~
facepalm
Nice_attempt at humor :-)

------
codethief
In_case anyone's looking for something a_little bit more sophisticated than a
sticker_to put on his/her webcam:
[https://soomz.io/detail/webcam_covers_a10](https://soomz.io/detail/webcam_covers_a10)
Been using it_for a while and it works_like a charm. (Though on_a phone_it
does tend to attract a_bit of dirt_and the_color wears off_over time. If you
keep your phone_in the pocket_of your pants, that is.)

------
chrischen
Quick question_for_HNers: why isn't_something_like_the camera_insicator light
implemented for_the_microphone?

------
SG-
Anyone know_what_kind of laptop he uses?

------
wickedlogic
Please cover_your_webcam, it is distracting while we are_trying to listen to
what_you_are clicking on.

------
listentojohan
What I_don't understand is why he_has to defend it? (Yes, it_might seem
hypocritical.)

------
bobsoap
Instead_of a_sticker, one could also use this clever, simple, magnetic gadget
(not affiliated):

[https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1893116150/nope-20-live...](https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1893116150/nope-20-live-
free)

~~~
bobsoap
Seriously,_downvoted without an explanation? That's quite