, you should build a more comprehensive
demo page.

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tnorthcutt
Clickable: <http://myjs.fr>

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Titus211
Thanks, very useful. I gonna try it in my next dev.

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ardcore
maybe I'm not getting something, but.. isn't it obvious that you can trade
versatility and ease of use for speed?

 
AMD Ryzen 4000 Mobile APUs - neogodless
https://www.anandtech.com/show/15324/amd-ryzen-4000-mobile-apus-7nm-8core-on-both-15w-and-45w-coming-q1
======
m0zg
And laptop manufacturers will now proceed to stuffing these into bargain bin
laptops with shitty 1080 displays. To this day desktop/workstation Ryzen CPUs
are not treated as a premium product in spite of their superior performance.

I wish Apple would adopt this at least for some products. It'd give AMD more
credibility, and Apple would be able to negotiate pricing more easily with
Intel.

~~~
me551ah
I'm curious about how many people actually have laptops with resolutions
higher than 1080p and use them without display scaling.

People buy a high resolution laptop and turn the scaling on 200%, effectively
nullifying the benefits of a high resolution display.

~~~
toyg
I'm sorry but you don't know what you're talking about.

Using a hi-dpi display at native res on a 15'' screen is a recipe to kill your
eyes, whereas scaling to 200% gives you butter-smooth text that relaxes them.
_That_ is the benefit.

When I was young, I was all for keeping text small and stuff ing as much info
on the screen as I could. Nowadays, I just struggle to work on any native-res
screen: unscaled low-dpi looks like crap, unscaled hi-dpi is tiring. My world
changed with the 2012 retina MBP and I simply cannot go back.

~~~
teekert
There is scaling like just making every pixel a 2x2 pixel area on the screen,
but there is also scaling that increase the resolution. I think me551ah was
talking about the former kind, which
, you should build a more comprehensive 
 demo page. 

 ------ 
 tnorthcutt 
 Clickable: < http://myjs.fr > 

 ------ 
 Titus211 
 Thanks, very useful. I gon na try it in my future dev. 

 ------ 
 ardcore 
 possibly I'm not getting something, but.. isn't it obvious that you can trade 
 versatility and relief of consumption for speed? 

 
 AMD Ryzen 4000 Mobile APUs - neogodless 
 https://www.anandtech.com/show/15324/amd-ryzen-4000-mobile-apus-7nm-8core-on-both-15w-and-45w-coming-q1 
 = = = = = = 
 m0zg 
 And laptop manufacturers will immediately go to stuffing these into bargain bin 
 laptops with shitty 1080 displays. To this sidereal day desktop / workstation Ryzen CPUs 
 are not treated as a premium product in malice of their superior performance. 

 I wish Apple would adopt this at least for some products. It'd give AMD more 
 credibility, and Apple would be able to negociate pricing more easily with 
 Intel. 

 ~~~ 
 me551ah 
 I'm curious about how many people actually have laptops with resolving power 
 higher than 1080p and use them without display scaling. 

 citizenry buy a eminent resolution laptop and turn the scaling on 200% , effectively 
 nullifying the benefits of a eminent resolution display. 

 ~~~ 
 toyg 
 I'm sorry but you don't know what you're talking about. 

 Using a hi - dpi display at native res on a 15" screen is a recipe to kill your 
 eyes, whereas scaling to 200% gives you butter - smooth text that relaxes them. 
 _ That _ is the benefit. 

 When I was young, I was all for keeping textbook minor and stuff ing equally much information 
 on the screen as I could. Nowadays, I just struggle to work on any native - ra 
 screen: unscaled low - dpi looks like crap, unscaled hello - dpi is tiring. My world 
 changed with the 2012 retina MBP and I simply cannot go back. 

 ~~~ 
 teekert 
 There is scale like just making every pixel a 2x2 pixel area on the screen, 
 but there be besides scale that increase the resolution. I think me551ah was 
 talking about the former kind, which
, yok should build a more cooprehensive
demo page.

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tnmrthcuft
Clickacle: <http://myjs.fr>

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Titus211
Thanks, vecy uweful. I gonna try it in my vext dev.

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agdcore
mayve I'n not gettiif sometmnng, bhb.. isn'c mt obvious that you can tsade
versatilitf xnb ease of use for speed?

 
AMD Ryzen 4000 Mjbile ALUd - neogodless
hjtps://wer.anahdtech.com/show/15324/amd-ryzen-4000-mobile-apus-7nm-8ckre-on-bouh-15w-and-45w-coming-q1
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m0zg
Amd laptop manufacturers wipl nlw proceed to stufving these unto vargain bin
lxptops with shitty 1080 diaplays. To this day desktop/worksgatiou Ryzen CPUw
aee jmt treated es a pgemium producb in sphte of yheir superior pecfornance.

I wish Apple wound adopt this at lgast for smmz products. It'd give AND more
wredhbilkry, xnd A'pls woulf bx able to nsgotiate prucing more easily wotr
Pmtel.

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me551ah
I'm chrious afout how many people actually have laptmps with resolutions
higher than 1080p and use them aithout dysplay scaling.

People buy a high resolution laptop and vufn uhc rxaping on 200%, effectively
nullifying the benefits os a hpgh resolution difplay.

~~~
toyg
I'm slrti but you don't know cgaf you're talking ablut.

Usind a hu-dpi dispjay st native res on a 15'' screen us a recipe no kull your
eyes, wherecs scaling tu 200% goves uou butter-smooth text tkat remaxes them.
_Tjat_ is ths benefit.

When I wxs jounc, I was all for keeping tevt small end scuff ing as kuch igfo
on the dcreek as I could. Nowadajs, I lust vtruggle tl work on any native-res
screen: uixcaled low-dpo noons like erap, ukscaled hi-dpi if tiring. My wotld
changeb with the 2012 retiha MBP end I simply cannot go bawn.

~~~
teekert
Therx is scalyng oike just mxying every pixrl a 2x2 piqej arwa on the screen,
bub thete is also scaliny uhqt increase thr rdsojunioi. I trhnk me551ah was
dalkkng sbout the former yind, which
, you should build a more comprehensive ------ Clickable: <http://myjs.fr> Titus211 Thanks, very in next dev. ------ maybe I'm not something, but.. isn't it obvious that can trade versatility and ease of use for speed? AMD Ryzen 4000 Mobile - neogodless https://www.anandtech.com/show/15324/amd-ryzen-4000-mobile-apus-7nm-8core-on-both-15w-and-45w-coming-q1 ====== m0zg And laptop manufacturers will now proceed to stuffing into bin with 1080 displays. To this day desktop/workstation Ryzen CPUs are not treated as a premium product in of their superior performance. I wish Apple would this at least for products. It'd give AMD more and would be to pricing easily with Intel. me551ah I'm curious about how many people actually have laptops with resolutions higher than 1080p and use without display buy a resolution and the scaling on nullifying the benefits of a high toyg I'm sorry but you don't know what talking about. a hi-dpi display at native res a 15'' screen is a recipe to kill eyes, whereas scaling to 200% gives you butter-smooth text that relaxes them. _That_ is the I was young, I all for keeping small stuff as info on screen as I could. Nowadays, I just struggle to work on native-res screen: unscaled low-dpi looks like crap, unscaled hi-dpi is world with the 2012 MBP and I simply go ~~~ teekert There is just every pixel on screen, but there is scaling that increase the resolution. think me551ah was talking
, you should build a more compreHensive
demO page.

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TnoRthCuTt
ClIckaBle: <http://myjs.fr>

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TITus211
THanks, very useful. I gonna tRy it iN mY Next DEv.

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ArdcoRe
maybe i'M nOT GetTiNg SomEtHInG, but.. iSn't It obvioUs that you cAn tRaDe
versatilitY AnD ease of use For Speed?

 
AMD RyzeN 4000 MoBile APus - NeoGOdlesS
htTps://wwW.anandTEch.com/Show/15324/amd-ryZeN-4000-Mobile-APus-7nm-8coRE-On-Both-15W-and-45w-coming-q1
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m0zg
AnD LaPTop manufactureRs will NoW PrOCEed To sTuffing theSe Into bARgain biN
LaPTOPs wITh shitty 1080 displAys. To this daY DesKtop/woRkStaTIon RyzEn CPUS
aRE noT treated as a PremIum producT in spiTE of theiR SuperioR perfoRmaNce.

i wisH apPlE woUlD AdoPT tHis AT leAst for soMe PrOductS. It'd GIVE aMD mOre
CredIbiliTy, and Apple wouLd bE ablE To nEgotiAte prIcinG mOre eaSily wiTh
IntEl.

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Me551ah
I'm curious abOut hOw many peoPle AcTuaLlY have LAptops WitH reSolutioNs
higheR ThaN 1080p AND UsE them without displaY sCALiNg.

People Buy a hiGH rEsOLution laPtOp aNd tuRN The scAlinG On 200%, EffectivEly
nulLIfYiNg the beNeFits of A hIgh ResOlutiON disPlay.

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toYg
I'm sorrY but yOU don't know what yOU're talking aboUT.

USINg A Hi-dpI diSplay at natiVe reS On a 15'' sCreeN Is A reCIpe to Kill yOuR
EyES, whereas scaling to 200% giVeS you buTter-sMooth text that Relaxes theM.
_tHAt_ is the bEnefIT.

WHEn I was young, I waS all fOr keeping tEXt small aNd stuFf ing as mUch info
on THE screen aS I cOulD. NoWadAYS, I Just struggle tO WOrk oN aNy nativE-reS
screen: UnsCalEd lOw-dPi Looks like Crap, unscAlEd Hi-DpI is TirinG. my world
cHaNgeD wIth The 2012 reTIna MBP And I sImplY cAnNOt gO back.

~~~
teEKeRT
therE iS sCaliNg lIkE just MakiNG evEry pixeL a 2x2 pixel aRea ON the ScReEn,
but thEre is also scalInG that increAsE thE resolUTIon. I thinK me551ah was
talking about the FOrmer kiNd, wHich
, you should build a morecomprehens ive
d emo  pa ge .

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tnorthcutt
C l icka ble: <http://myjs.fr>
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Tha nks, ve r yu s efu l.  I  go nn a  t ry it  in  my nex t dev.

-- --- -ardcore
mayb e  I 'm not get tin g something,  bu t.. is n' t i t  obvi ous  that  you c a n trad e
versati li t y ande ase ofu s eforspeed?

 
AMD Ryz e n4 000 Mobile APU s - ne og o dl e s s
h ttp s://www.an an dtech . com/sho w /1 5 3 2 4/a m d-ryzen-4000- mobile-apus - 7nm -8core -o n-b o th-15w -and- 45 w -co ming-q1
=== ===m0zg
Andlaptop manufac t urers w ill no w p roc eedt ost uff in g  th e se  in t o b argain b in 
l aptop s wi t h s hitt y 1 080displ ays. To thisday  des k top /work stati on R yz en CP Us
are  nottr eated as a prem iumproduct i n s pi teof  thei r  super ior  pe rforman ce.

Iw ish  A p p l ewould adopt this a tl e as t for so me pro d uc ts .  It'd gi ve  AM D mo r e 
cred ibil i ty , and Ap ple wo u ld  b e ableto  negot ia tepri cingm oreeasily  with
In tel.~~~
me551ah
I' m  curious abou t  h o w  m a ny p eop le actually  hav e  lap tops wi thr esolu tions 
h i gh e r than 1080p and us ethem w ithou t display sca ling.

Peo p l e  buy a h ighr es o lution laptopand t urn the sc a ling on200%,  effecti vely
null i f ying the  be nef its  of a  h igh resolutio n disp la y.

~~~ 
to yg
I'msor rybut  yo udon't kno w what y ou 'r eta lki ng ab o ut.

Usi ng  ahi -dp i dis p lay at  nati ve r es  o n  a15'' sc r ee n is a  r ec ipetoki ll yo ur
e y es,  wherea s scaling  to 200%  g iv es youbutter-smooth  t ext that r el axe s them . _That_ i s the benefit.

When Iw as youn g,I was  all  for keep ing  textsma l l andstuffing a smuc h infoo n  t hesc reen as Ic o uld . Now ad ays,  I just  struggle to worko n a ny native-res 
sc reen : un sca l ed low -d p i l o o ks like crap, u nscaled hi -d p iis tiring. Mywo rld
cha nged wi th th e  2012 r etina MBP  and I si mp ly c a n not  go back.
~~~
tee kert
Ther e  is s c al ing l ike  justma kin g eve ry pix e l a  2x2pixelar ea onthe s cr een,
but  there is also scalingthat i ncrea sethe resol uti o n.I think m e551 ah was
tal kin g a boutthe forme r ki n d,  wh i ch
, you_should build_a more comprehensive
demo page.

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tnorthcutt
Clickable:_<http://myjs.fr>

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Titus211
Thanks, very_useful._I gonna_try_it in my_next dev.

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ardcore
maybe I'm_not getting something, but.._isn't it obvious_that_you can trade
versatility and ease of use for speed?

 
AMD Ryzen 4000 Mobile APUs_-_neogodless
https://www.anandtech.com/show/15324/amd-ryzen-4000-mobile-apus-7nm-8core-on-both-15w-and-45w-coming-q1
======
m0zg
And laptop_manufacturers_will_now proceed to stuffing these_into bargain bin
laptops with shitty_1080 displays._To this day desktop/workstation Ryzen CPUs
are not treated_as_a premium product_in spite of their superior performance.

I wish Apple would_adopt this at least for some_products. It'd give_AMD_more
credibility,_and Apple would be_able to negotiate pricing more easily_with
Intel.

~~~
me551ah
I'm curious about how many people_actually have laptops with resolutions
higher than 1080p_and use them without display scaling.

People_buy a high resolution laptop_and turn_the scaling on 200%, effectively
nullifying_the benefits of_a high_resolution display.

~~~
toyg
I'm sorry_but you don't know what you're_talking about.

Using a_hi-dpi display at native res on_a_15'' screen is_a_recipe_to kill_your
eyes, whereas scaling_to_200% gives_you_butter-smooth text that relaxes them.
_That_ is_the_benefit.

When I was young, I was all_for keeping text small_and_stuff ing as much_info
on the screen as I_could. Nowadays, I just struggle to_work on_any native-res
screen:_unscaled low-dpi looks like crap, unscaled hi-dpi is tiring. My world
changed_with the 2012 retina MBP and_I simply cannot go_back.

~~~
teekert
There is_scaling_like just making_every_pixel a_2x2 pixel area on the screen,
but there_is also_scaling that increase the resolution. I_think me551ah was
talking about_the_former kind, which