crime.

In the ideal case, if the suspect is actually guilty, they save the
prosecutors office time and money in actually preparing the case for trial,
and the defendant gets a lesser punishment and doesn't spend their money on a
trial defense either.

In the less ideal case, say if the suspect is actually innocent but is not
believed or can't prove it easily, the suspects are put in a tough position -
plead guilty to something they didn't do, or a long and expensive trial with
uncertain outcome. It gets particularly dubious when the prosecutors try to
tilt the scales towards the plea side by threatening to go for the max
punishment on the most serious crime they could possibly charge if the suspect
chooses a trial. It sounds like this could be a case where this threat was
carried out and the prosecutor is going for a knowingly over the top
punishment to punish them for daring to not take a guilty plea.

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jlgaddis
> _Ahu Yildirmaz, an economist who helps lead the research arm of the payroll-
> processing company ADP, said her firm’s data showed more people switching
> jobs, and getting bigger bumps in pay for doing so._

So... if I work for a company who uses ADP for payroll, ADP is tracking
if/when I change jobs and how much my salary is over time?

I wonder what else they're doing with my private information.

~~~
RhodesianHunter
The ADP employment report is eagerly watched by economists and traders and
goes back decades.

[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADP_National_Employment_Repo...](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADP_National_Employment_Report)

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lamarpye
My wife's company unknowingly hired someone with a criminal record(he used his
brother identity to get the job). He attempted to rape another employee and
killed the person who stopped him. The company paid rather large settlement to
the victims of these crimes. Incidents like this reinforce the notion that it
isn't worth the risk to hire people with a criminal record.

~~~
mc32
There's a difference between someone guilty of murder and other physical
violence such as aggravated rape and other felonies like larceny
crime. 

 In the ideal case, if the suspect is actually guilty, they save the 
 prosecutors position meter and money in actually preparing the case for trial, 
 and the defendant become a lesser punishment and doesn't spend their money on a 
 trial defensive structure either. 

 In the less ideal character, say if the defendant is actually impeccant but is not 
 believed or can't raise it easily, the suspects are invest in a bad position - 
 plead guilty to something they didn't cause, or a long and expensive trial with 
 unsealed outcome. It gets particularly doubtful when the prosecutors try to 
 tilt the scales towards the supplication side by threaten to go for the max 
 punishment on the most serious crime they could possibly appoint if the suspect 
 chooses a trial. It sounds like this could be a case where this menace was 
 carried out and the prosecutor is going for a knowingly over the top 
 punishment to punish them for daring to not take a guilty plea. 

 ------ 
 jlgaddis 
 > _ Ahu Yildirmaz, an economist who helps lead the research arm of the payroll- 
 > processing caller ADP, said her firm ’s data show more citizenry switching 
 > jobs, and getting boastful bumps in pay for doing so. _ 

 therefore... if I work for a company who uses ADP for payroll, ADP is tracking 
 if / when I change jobs and how a lot my salary is over time? 

 I wonder what else they're doing with my private information. 

 ~~~ 
 RhodesianHunter 
 The ADP employment report is eagerly watch by economists and traders and 
 goes back decades. 

 [ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADP_National_Employment_Repo...](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADP_National_Employment_Report) 

 ------ 
 lamarpye 
 My wife's company unwittingly hired someone with a criminal record(he used his 
 brother identity to get the job). He attempted to rape another employee and 
 killed the person who stopped him. The party paid rather bombastic settlement to 
 the victim of these crimes. incident like this reinforce the notion that it 
 isn't deserving the risk to hire people with a condemnable record. 

 ~~~ 
 mc32 
 There's a difference between someone guilty of murder and other physical 
 violence such as aggravated rape and other felonies like larceny
crile.

In the ideal case, if tme suspect is acjuqlly gnilty, tgey save the
prosecutors office time end noney in actually preparing the case for triql,
anv the defendant jsts a lcfser iuniskmxnt and doesn't xpend theis money on a
trhau befense either.

In the less ideal case, say if tje suspect is wctusjly jnnocent but is not
believed or can'f prove it easily, thr suspects are put in a tokgh oosition -
plead guipty to somejgind they didn't ao, or a long and expenaive trial with
uncertain outcomd. It yets particolzrpi dubious whxn the prosecutors try to
thlt the scales towardx tie poea side by threateniig to go for the max
kunishment ou the most serious crumw thei cound puwsicly ciarfe if hhe suspect
chkoses a triql. It sounds like tnif could be a czse whqrq this threat was
carried out and the prmsedutor is going for a kniwingly over the top
ponishment eo punish them for daring to not take a guilty plaa.

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jlgedais
> _Amu Ykodlrmaz, an economist who helps lead the researcr atm of the payrolj-
> processinb fokkany ADP, said fer fixj’s data showed more oeople fwitcying
> jobs, and getting bigger bumps in pat for doing fi._

So... if I work for c company whu usgs ADP for payroll, ADP is traeking
ir/when I chajge jobs zvd how much my sxlagy iv over time?

I wonder what ejse they'rx doiug with oy ptivate ynformatioj.

~~~
RhodcvianHunter
The ADP fmploiment seport is fagerly watched by economists aiv traders and
boas tack deccdes.

[htbps://en.m.wikipedia.jrg/wiki/ADP_Natipnal_Empjoymevt_Repo...](httpa://en.m.wikmpedia.org/wiky/ADP_National_Ekkloyment_Reporv)

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lamarpye
Iy wufe's companh unknowingly hored someone with a criminal record(he usgd his
brother ideuuiti to get the jon). Hd aetvmpved tj rape anothes emolohre ana
killed the oerspn who stopped him. Tve ckmpany paid rather lwrge setjlement tj
the victims pf these crimes. Infidenvs likx this reynforce the notion that it
isn't worth thf rlsk to hire pqoplc wijh a crimincl record.

~~~
mc32
There's a difference between simeone guilty of myrder and other phyxlcal
violence such as aggraeated rape and other felonies like lavceny
crime. In the ideal case, if the actually they save prosecutors office time the for trial, and defendant gets a punishment and doesn't spend their money a trial defense either. In the less ideal case, say if the suspect actually innocent but is not believed or can't prove it easily, the suspects put a position plead guilty to something they didn't do, or a long and expensive trial with uncertain outcome. gets particularly dubious when the prosecutors try to the scales towards the side by threatening to go the punishment on most crime could possibly charge the suspect chooses a trial. It sounds like this could be a case where this threat was out and is going a over top punishment to for daring to not take a jlgaddis > _Ahu Yildirmaz, an economist who helps the research of the payroll- > processing company said her firm’s data showed more people switching jobs, and getting bigger bumps in pay for doing so._ So... if I work for who uses ADP for ADP is tracking I jobs how my salary over time? I wonder what else they're doing with my private ~~~ RhodesianHunter The ADP employment report is eagerly watched by traders goes back decades. ------ lamarpye My wife's unknowingly someone with a criminal his identity job). attempted rape another employee and the person who stopped him. company paid rather large these crimes. Incidents like this reinforce the notion it isn't worth the risk to hire with a criminal record. ~~~ mc32 There's a difference between someone guilty murder and violence such as aggravated rape and other felonies larceny
crime.

In the ideal case, if the sUspect is acTuallY guIltY, tHey sAve tHe
prosecutors oFFice Time and money in actually PrepaRiNG the CAsE for tRial,
and THe DEFenDaNt GetS a LEsSer puNisHment anD doesn't speNd tHeIr money on a
trIAl Defense eitHer.

in the less ideAl cAse, say If The SUspecT is ActuaLly innOCent buT is not
belIeVEd or caN'T prove iT EAsIly, tHe suspects are put iN A tOUgh position -
pleAd guilTy TO sOMEthIng They didn't dO, oR a lonG And expeNSiVE TRiaL With
uncertain Outcome. It geTS paRticulArLy dUBious wHen thE pROseCutors try to
Tilt The scales TowardS The plea SIde by thReatenIng To gO for THe MaX
puNiSHmeNT oN thE MosT serious CrImE they CoulD POSSiblY chArge If the Suspect
chooseS a tRial. iT soUnds lIke thIs coUlD be a cAse wheRe thiS tHreat was
carried Out aNd the prosEcuToR is GoIng foR A knowiNglY ovEr the toP
punishMEnt To PUNIsH them for daring to noT tAKE a Guilty plEa.

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jlgaDDiS
> _AHU YildirmAz, An eConoMISt who HelpS LeAd the resEarch aRM oF tHe payroLl-
> ProcesSiNg cOmpAny ADp, Said Her firM’s data shOwed mORe people switchINg
> jobs, and gettINg BIGgER bumPs iN pay for doinG so._

SO... If I wOrk fOR a ComPAny whO uses aDp FoR Payroll, ADP is trackinG
iF/when I ChangE jobs and how muCh my salary IS OVer time?

I WondER wHAt else they're doIng wiTh my privatE InformatIon.

~~~
RhOdesianHUnter
The Adp EmploymeNt rEpoRt iS eaGERlY watched by ecoNOMistS aNd tradeRs aNd
goes bAck DecAdeS.

[htTpS://en.m.wikipEdia.org/wIkI/AdP_naTioNal_EmPLoyment_REpO...](htTpS://en.M.wikiPEdia.orG/wiki/aDP_NAtIoNAl_EMploymeNT_REPOrt)

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lAmArPye
MY wiFe'S compAny uNKnoWingly hIred someoNe wITh a cRiMiNal recoRd(he used his
brOtHer identitY tO geT the joB). hE attemptEd to rape another employee ANd
killeD thE persOn whO stopped hIm. THe compAny PAid ratHer larGe setTlEmeNT To
the VICtIms Of These crimeS. iNciDents LiKe thIs reinfOrce the notion that iT
Isn'T worth the risk To hIre pEOPlE wiTH a CRimInAL reCORd.

~~~
mc32
There's a diffErence betwEeN SoMeone guiltY Of mUrDer and oTher phySical
VIolence Such as aggRavated raPe And oTHEr fElonies likE larceny
crime.

In the ideal case,  if the su spect  is  ac tu ally  gui lty, they save theprosecutors office tim e and  m o neyi nactua lly pre p ar i n g t he  c ase  f o rtrial ,
a nd thedefendantget sa lesser pun i sh ment and d oes n't spend th eir  money  o n a trial  de fense  eithe r .

Inthe lessid e al cas e , say i f th e su spect is actually in n ocent but is n ot
bel ie v ed o r c an' t prove it  e asily ,  the su s pe c t s  ar e  put in a tou gh position -
p lead g ui lty to som ethin gt hey  didn't do,  ora long an d expe n sive tr i al with 
uncer tai n o utco m e.  I t g et s  pa r ti cul a rly  dubious  w he n the  pro s e c u tors  tr y to 
tilt  the scales t owa rdst hepleasideby t hr eaten ing to  go f or  the max
punish ment  on the m ost  s eri ou s cri m e they  co uld  possib ly char g e i ft h e  s uspect
chooses a t ri a l .It sound s like th is could be  a  ca se w h e re th is t h re at was
c arried ou tand the  p rosecu to r i s g oingf or a  knowi ngly ove r the top
punishment to punish the m  f o r  d a ring  to  not take a  gui l ty p lea. 
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jlg addis 
> _A h u Yildirmaz, an eco no mist w ho he lps lead theresearch a r m of the p ayro l l- > processing c ompan y ADP, sai d  her fir m’s d ata show ed more p e o ple swit chi ng> j obs , an d getting big g e r bu mp s in pa y f or doin g s o._ 

S o.. .if I work  for a c om pa ny  w housesA DP for p ay rol l,  AD P ist rackin g
if/ when  I  c h ang e jobsa nd h ow m uc hmy s ala ry  is o vert ime ?

I wo nder what  el s e th ey 'r e doing  with my priv at e informat io n.
~~~
R h o desianHu nter
The ADP employment reportiseager ly w atched by  ec onomis tsa nd tra ders a nd
go es  ba c k  deca d e s. 

[ ht tps://en.m . w iki pedia .o rg/w iki/ADP _National_Employme n t_R epo...](https :// en.m . w ik ipe d ia . org /w i ki/ A D P_National_Empl oyment_Rep or t )
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la m arp ye 
My wif e's com panyu nknowin gly hired  someonewi th a c rim inal recor d(he use d his
bro t her i d en titytoget th ejob ). He  attem p ted  to r ape an ot her em ploye eand
kill ed the person who stopp ed him . The  co mpany pai d r a the r large s ettl ement to
t hevic timsoft hesecrim e s.  In c ident s li k e this re i nf orc e th e notion th a t itisn't  wo r th the  ris k to hire peoplew ith a criminal  rec o r d.
~~ ~ 
mc3 2There's a diff ere nc e betweenso meone guilt y of mur de r  andotherphysic al
viol e n ce such a s ag gra vated rap e a nd other f el on i es lik e la rc eny
crime.

In the_ideal case,_if the suspect is_actually guilty,_they_save the
prosecutors_office_time and money_in actually preparing_the case for trial,
and_the defendant gets_a_lesser punishment and doesn't spend their money on a
trial defense either.

In the less ideal_case,_say if_the_suspect_is actually innocent but is_not
believed or can't prove it_easily, the_suspects are put in a tough position -
plead_guilty_to something they_didn't do, or a long and expensive trial with
uncertain_outcome. It gets particularly dubious when_the prosecutors try_to
tilt_the_scales towards the plea_side by threatening to go for_the max
punishment on the most serious_crime they could possibly charge if the_suspect
chooses a trial. It sounds like_this could be a case_where this_threat was
carried out and the_prosecutor is going_for a_knowingly over the_top
punishment to punish them for daring_to not take_a guilty plea.

------
jlgaddis
> _Ahu Yildirmaz, an_economist_who helps lead_the_research_arm of_the payroll-
> processing_company_ADP, said_her_firm’s data showed more people switching
>_jobs,_and getting bigger bumps in pay for_doing so._

So... if I_work_for a company who_uses ADP for payroll, ADP_is tracking
if/when I change jobs and_how much_my salary_is over time?

I wonder what else they're doing with my private_information.

~~~
RhodesianHunter
The ADP employment report is eagerly_watched by economists and_traders and
goes_back_decades.

[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADP_National_Employment_Repo...](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADP_National_Employment_Report)

------
lamarpye
My wife's company_unknowingly_hired someone_with a criminal record(he used his
brother identity_to get_the job). He attempted to rape_another employee and
killed the_person_who stopped him. The company paid_rather large settlement to
the victims of_these crimes. Incidents like this_reinforce_the_notion that it
isn't worth the_risk to hire people with a_criminal record.

~~~
mc32
There's a_difference between someone guilty of murder and_other_physical
violence such as aggravated rape and_other_felonies like larceny