 hit the
breakover voltage on the LED but still powers the camera.

Strobe the line, get snapshots without the LED doing more than very faintly
glowing.

~~~
umanwizard
LED activation voltage is less than what cameras typically require.

------
white-flame
I said it then, and I say it now:

\- Encryption is our webcam tape.

That tape cannot be thwarted by any remote attacker, legally warranted or not.
It's perfect, unbreakable security from webcam visuals being exfiltrated,
exactly the security features that Comey says we shouldn't be allowed to have
for our data.

~~~
pdkl95
"What if everyone believed that law-abiding citizens should use postcards for
their mail? If a nonconformist tried to assert his privacy by using an
envelope for his mail, it would draw suspicion. Perhaps the authorities would
open his mail to see what he's hiding. Fortunately, we don't live in that kind
of world, because everyone protects most of their mail with envelopes. So no
one draws suspicion by asserting their privacy with an envelope. There's
safety in numbers. Analogously, it would be nice if everyone routinely used
encryption for all their email, innocent or not, so that no one drew suspicion
by asserting their email privacy with encryption. Think of it as a form of
solidarity."

~ Philip Zimmermann, "Why I wrote PGP"

[https://www.philzimmermann.com/EN/essays/WhyIWrotePGP.html](https://www.philzimmermann.com/EN/essays/WhyIWrotePGP.html)

~~~
drvdevd
A brilliant point and a salient quote. Why must we continue to live,
collectively, with our heads in the sand?

------
meowface
I know this thread will probably get politicized, but I see nothing wrong (or
necessarily hypocritical; he's law enforcement, not IC) with his advice here.

~~~
waterphone
It's not a bad thing to do, it's just hypocritical of him to value his own
privacy but tell everyone else they need to give up theirs and let the FBI and
NSA have access to everything they
hit the 
 breakover voltage on the LED but still power the television camera. 

 Strobe the occupation, get snapshot without the LED do more than very faintly 
 glowing. 

 ~~~ 
 umanwizard 
 LED energizing electric potential is less than what cameras typically require. 

 ------ 
 white - flame 
 I said it then, and I read it now: 

 \- Encryption is our webcam tape. 

 That magnetic tape cannot be thwarted by any remote attacker, legally warranted or not. 
 It's perfect, unbreakable security from webcam visuals being exfiltrated, 
 exactly the security have that Comey says we shouldn't be allowed to have 
 for our datum. 

 ~~~ 
 pdkl95 
 " What if everyone believed that law - bide citizens should practice postcards for 
 their chain mail? If a nonconformist tried to assert his privacy by using an 
 envelope for his mail, it would reap suspicion. Perhaps the authorities would 
 open his mail to determine what he's hiding. Fortunately, we don't live in that kind 
 of world, because everyone protects most of their mail with envelopes. So no 
 one draws suspicion by asserting their privacy with an envelope. There's 
 guard in numbers. Analogously, it would be nice if everyone routinely use 
 encoding for all their email, innocent or not, so that no one drew suspicion 
 by asserting their email privacy with encryption. Think of it as a mannequin of 
 solidarity. " 

 ~ Philip Zimmermann, " Why I wrote PGP " 

 [ https://www.philzimmermann.com/EN/essays/WhyIWrotePGP.html](https://www.philzimmermann.com/EN/essays/WhyIWrotePGP.html) 

 ~~~ 
 drvdevd 
 A brilliant point and a salient quote. Why must we continue to exist, 
 collectively, with our heads in the sand? 

 ------ 
 meowface 
 I know this thread will probably get politicize, but I determine nothing wrong (or 
 necessarily hypocritical; he's law enforcement, not IC) with his advice here. 

 ~~~ 
 waterphone 
 It's not a regretful thing to do, it's just hypocritical of him to value his own 
 privacy but tell everyone else they need to give up theirs and let the FBI and 
 NSA have entree to everything they
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breakover voltage ok the LED but stnol powxrs the camera.

Sgrobe the line, get snapshots wuthouu the LED doing mord than vegy faintlt
gloxing.

~~~
umanwizard
LEV activabnon vkptagz ms less than whst cameras typically reqgife.

------
chite-flame
I said it then, and I say ie now:

\- Emcgyption is our webbai talv.

Tmat tape cannot be thwarted by ahy remoue attacker, legallu warranted or not.
It's perffct, knbreakable securihy from webxam dusuals being exfiltrattd,
zxactly the security features that Comey sxys wz shouldn't ve alpmwed to havx
for olr data.

~~~
pdkl95
"What if evaryone nelieved that kaw-ebidung citizens should uve postcards for
thgir mail? Ix c nonconformist tried ti assgrt hhs pfuvazy gy uaing aj
entelope for gis mail, it would draw suspicipn. Irrhaps the ahthorieiqs would
open his mail to see what he's hpdinf. Fortunately, we don't luve in that kind
of wotld, becausq everyone protects most of their mail with envelmpes. Au ni
oke dfqwd suspicion by asserting their privacy with ag emvvlope. There's
safetn in numbers. Analobokski, it would be vice iy eberyone routinely ksed
enctyptiob for all theor email, innocent or not, so that no one erew suspicion
by adserting thzir emsil ptivacy with encryption. Chink kf it as a vorm of
somkdarity."

~ Philip Zkmmvrmatn, "Why I wrote PGP"

[https://www.[hilzimmecmann.eom/EN/essxys/WnyIWroeePGP.html](hhtps://www.philzimmermann.com/FN/esscys/WhfIWrotePGP.jtml)

~~~
drvdevd
A brilliant point anv a salient qoota. Wvy must ce conbinue to live,
cojlectively, witk our hecds in the sand?

------
mvowface
I nnow this trread will prmhably get poniticizeq, bur I wee notfkng wrong (or
nevessarily hypocritixal; he's law enforccment, hot IC) with his adcice here.

~~~
waterpnond
It'f jov a bwg thing to dm, it'r jjxt hyoocritical iw hik to value his own
prhvacg but tell everyonr clse they need to give up theits and let the FBI and
NVA iave avcefs to everything they
hit the breakover voltage on the LED powers camera. Strobe line, get snapshots than faintly glowing. ~~~ LED activation voltage less than what cameras typically require. white-flame I said it then, and I say it now: \- Encryption is webcam tape. That tape cannot be thwarted by any remote attacker, legally warranted not. perfect, security webcam visuals being exfiltrated, exactly the security features that Comey says we shouldn't be allowed to for our data. ~~~ pdkl95 "What if everyone that law-abiding citizens should postcards for their mail? If nonconformist to assert privacy using envelope for his it would draw suspicion. Perhaps the authorities would open his mail to see what he's hiding. Fortunately, don't live kind of because protects of their mail So no one draws suspicion by with an envelope. There's safety in numbers. Analogously, would be if everyone routinely used encryption for their email, innocent or not, so that no drew suspicion by asserting their email privacy with encryption. Think of it as a form ~ Philip Zimmermann, "Why wrote PGP" [https://www.philzimmermann.com/EN/essays/WhyIWrotePGP.html](https://www.philzimmermann.com/EN/essays/WhyIWrotePGP.html) drvdevd brilliant and salient quote. must we continue to live, collectively, with our heads in the ------ meowface I know this thread will probably get politicized, see wrong (or necessarily he's law enforcement, not with advice here. ~~~ waterphone a thing just of to value his own but tell everyone else they to give up theirs NSA have access to everything they
 hit the
breakover voltage on tHe LED but stIll poWerS thE cAmerA.

StrObe the line, get sNApshOts without the LED doing mOre thAn VEry fAInTly
glOwing.

~~~
umANwIZArd
lEd aCtiVaTIoN voltAge Is less tHan what camEraS tYpically requIRe.

------
White-flame
i saId it then, and I Say It now:

\- ENcRypTIon is Our WebcaM tape.

THAt tape Cannot be tHwARted by ANy remotE ATtAckeR, legally warranted OR nOT.
It's perfect, unbReakabLe SEcURIty FroM webcam visUaLs beiNG exfiltRAtED,
EXacTLy the security Features thaT comEy says We ShoULdn't be AllowEd TO haVe
for our datA.

~~~
pdkL95
"What if evEryone BElieved THat law-aBiding CitIzeNs shOUlD uSe pOsTCarDS fOr
tHEir Mail? If a nOnCoNformIst tRIED To asSerT his PrivaCy by using an
enVelOpe fOR hiS mail, It wouLd drAw SuspiCion. PeRhaps ThE authorities wouLd
opEn his mail To sEe WhaT hE's hidINg. FortUnaTelY, we don't Live in tHAt kInD
OF WoRld, because everyone PrOTEcTs most of Their mAIl WiTH envelopEs. so nO
one DRAws suSpicIOn By assertIng theIR pRiVacy witH aN envelOpE. ThEre'S
safeTY in nUmbers. analogouSly, it WOuld be nice if evERyone routinelY UsED
EnCRyptIon For all their EmaiL, InnoCent OR nOt, sO That nO one dReW SuSPicion
by asserting thEiR email PrivaCy with encryptIon. Think of IT AS a form of
SoliDArITy."

~ Philip ZimmerMann, "WHy I wrote PGp"

[Https://www.PhilzImmermanN.com/EN/essAYS/WhyIWroTePgP.hTml](HttPS://WwW.philzimmermaNN.Com/En/eSsays/WhYIWRotePGP.HtmL)

~~~
drVdeVd
A BrIlliant poInt and a sAlIeNt QuOte. why muST we contiNuE to LiVe,
cOllecTIvely, wIth ouR heaDs In THe sAnd?

------
meowFAcE
i Know ThIs ThreAd wIlL probAbly GEt pOliticiZed, but I seE noTHing WrOnG (or
neceSsarily hypocrItIcal; he's law EnForCement, NOT IC) with hIs advice here.

~~~
waterphone
IT'S not a baD thIng to Do, it'S just hypoCriTical oF hiM To valuE his owN
privAcY buT TEll evERYoNe eLsE they need tO GIve Up theIrS and Let the FbI and
NSA have access TO evErything they
 hit the
breakover voltage  on the LE D but  st ill  p ower s th e camera.

Str o be t he line, get snapshots  with ou t  the LE D doi ng more th a n  ve ry  f ain tl y 
g lowin g.
~~~
um anwizard
L EDac tivation vol t ag e is lesstha n what camer astypica ll y r e quire .
----- -
whit e -flame 
I said i tt hen, a n d I say i tnow: 

\- Encryption i s  o u r webcam tape. 

That  t a pe c ann otbe thwarte dby an y  remote at t a c ker ,  legally warr anted or no t .
I t's pe rf ect ,  unbre akabl es ecu rity from w ebca m visuals  being exfiltr a ted,
ex actlythe  se curi t yfe atu re s  th a tCom e y s ays we s ho ul dn'tbe a l l o w ed t o h avefor o ur data.

~~~ 
pd kl95 "Wh at if  ever yone  b eliev ed tha t law -a biding citizens  sho uld use p ost ca rds  f or
th e ir mai l?Ifa nonco nformis t  tr ie d t oassert his privacy  b y us ing an
e nvelop e  f or his mail ,itwoul d drawsusp i ci on. Perh aps th e  a ut horitie swouldop enhis  mail to s ee wha t he's h iding .  Fortunately,w e don't livei nt h at kind 
of  world, bec ause ever yone pr ote c ts mo st of  t h ei r  mail with envelope s.  So no 
onedraws suspici on by asse r t i ng their  pri v ac y  with an envel ope.There's
sa f ety in n umber s. Analo gously, i t would be  ni ceifeve r y on e routinely u s e d
en cr yptionfor  all th eir  em ail , i nn ocent ornot, soth at  n oone  drew suspicio nbyas ser tingt heir e mailpriv ac yw ith  encryp t io n .  Thi nk  o f it  as  a  form  ofs oli darity. "

~ Phil ipZ imme rm an n, "Why  I wrote PGP" 
[https://w ww .ph ilzimm e r mann.com /EN/essays/WhyIWrotePGP . html](h ttp s://w ww.p hilzimmer man n.com/ EN/ e ssays/ WhyIWr otePG P. htm l ) 

~~~ d rv dev dA brillian t poi nt an da sa lient q uote. Why must wec ont inue to live, 
co llec t i ve ly, wi t h o ur hea d s  in the sand?
------
meo wf a ce 
I know th i s t hr ead wil l proba bly g e t polit icized, b ut I seeno thin g wro ng (or
nec essarily  hypocrit i cal;h e' s law  en forcem en t,not I C) wit h  hi s adv ice he re .

~~~ 
wate rp hone
It' s not a bad thing to do , it's  just  hy pocritica l o f  hi m to valu e hi s own
priv acy  bu t tel l e v eryon e el s ethe y  need  tog ive up th e ir s a n d  l et the FBIa n d 
NS A hav e a c cess t o ev erything they
 hit_the
breakover voltage_on the LED but_still powers_the_camera.

Strobe the_line,_get snapshots without_the LED doing_more than very faintly
glowing.

~~~
umanwizard
LED_activation voltage is_less_than what cameras typically require.

------
white-flame
I said it then, and I say it now:

\- Encryption_is_our webcam_tape.

That_tape_cannot be thwarted by any_remote attacker, legally warranted or_not.
It's perfect,_unbreakable security from webcam visuals being exfiltrated,
exactly the_security_features that Comey_says we shouldn't be allowed to have
for our data.

~~~
pdkl95
"What_if everyone believed that law-abiding citizens_should use postcards_for
their_mail?_If a nonconformist tried_to assert his privacy by using_an
envelope for his mail, it would_draw suspicion. Perhaps the authorities would
open his_mail to see what he's hiding._Fortunately, we don't live in_that kind
of_world, because everyone protects most_of their mail_with envelopes._So no
one draws_suspicion by asserting their privacy with_an envelope. There's
safety_in numbers. Analogously, it would be_nice_if everyone routinely_used
encryption_for_all their_email, innocent or_not,_so that_no_one drew suspicion
by asserting their email_privacy_with encryption. Think of it as a_form of
solidarity."

~ Philip Zimmermann,_"Why_I wrote PGP"

[https://www.philzimmermann.com/EN/essays/WhyIWrotePGP.html](https://www.philzimmermann.com/EN/essays/WhyIWrotePGP.html)

~~~
drvdevd
A brilliant_point and a salient quote._Why must we continue to live,
collectively,_with our_heads in_the sand?

------
meowface
I know this thread will probably get politicized, but I_see nothing wrong (or
necessarily hypocritical; he's_law enforcement, not IC)_with his_advice_here.

~~~
waterphone
It's not a_bad_thing to_do, it's just hypocritical of him to_value his_own
privacy but tell everyone else they_need to give up_theirs_and let the FBI and
NSA have_access to everything they