https://docs.brew.sh/Installation#macos-requirements)

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gumby
He big reason to move production offshore was labor cost (straight comparative
advantage); now it’s path dependency as the whole supply chain has migrated.
This was the US’s big advantage 1890s-1980s but that time has passed.

Advanced robotics will offer a chance of a fundamental restructuring as labor
costs continue to contribute a declining proportion of COGS. The factories and
supply chains could be completely distributed and resilient. But the example
of the Internet is discouraging: the ultimate end-to-end system ended up
highly centralized too.

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Rafuino
Oof, fun times at Intel right now. There are pockets of Intel not forgetting
what made it successful, but they're usually the most difficult places to grow
a career as they get snuffed out pretty quick

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phlo
Duplicate of
[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23538826](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23538826)
(which was posted a few minutes earlier).

~~~
Wowfunhappy
Rightfully or not, I think this is the version of record at this point, given
that it's sitting at the top of HN right now. They will probably get merged
later.

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bgorman
Intel has lost its manufacturing lead, but these changes are not permanent.
There is a good chance TSMC stumbles as transistors shrink. Intel has a chance
to catch up, but it seems like Intel has structural problems that prevent it
from winning deals to manufacture third party designs. Relying on complete
vertical integration doesn't seem like a winning business model anymore.

Perhaps Intel should buy GlobalFoundries or license Samsung technology to
develop competency in building designs for other customers.

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coreai
The problem, as explained here, is also what Linus and recently GKH have
mentioned is that the lack of any consumer ARM hardware like laptops and
desktops mean that kernel developers or app developers are basically not able
to develop and test their code easily to be able to deploy it in the cloud...
if Apple was able to sell their macs with ARM and not only that but also
provide instances of the same platform then they might
https://docs.brew.sh/Installation#macos-requirements) 

 ------ 
 gumby 
 He big reason to move production offshore was british labour party monetary value (straight comparative 
 advantage); now it ’s way dependency as the whole supply range has migrate. 
 This was the US ’s big advantage 1890s-1980s but that clock time has passed. 

 Advanced robotics will propose a chance of a fundamental restructuring as british labour party 
 costs continue to contribute a declining proportion of COGS. The factories and 
 provision chains could be completely distributed and bouncy. But the example 
 of the Internet is discouraging: the ultimate end - to - end system end up 
 highly centralized too. 

 ------ 
 Rafuino 
 Oof, fun times at Intel right now. There be pockets of Intel not forgetting 
 what made it successful, but they're usually the most unmanageable position to grow 
 a career as they get snuffed out pretty quick 

 ------ 
 phlo 
 Duplicate of 
 [ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23538826](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23538826) 
 (which was posted a few minutes earlier). 

 ~~~ 
 Wowfunhappy 
 Rightfully or not, I think this is the version of phonograph record at this point, given 
 that it's baby-sit at the circus tent of HN right now. They will probably get unite 
 later. 

 ------ 
 bgorman 
 Intel has lost its manufacturing lead, but these change are not permanent. 
 There is a good chance TSMC stumbles as transistors shrink. Intel accept a chance 
 to catch up, but it seems like Intel has geomorphologic problems that prevent it 
 from win deals to manufacture third party designs. Relying on complete 
 erect integration doesn't seem like a winning business model anymore. 

 Perhaps Intel should buy GlobalFoundries or license Samsung technology to 
 develop competence in building designs for other customers. 

 ------ 
 coreai 
 The problem, as explain here, is also what Linus and recently GKH have 
 mention is that the lack of any consumer ARM hardware like laptop and 
 desktops mean that kernel developer or app developers are basically not able 
 to develop and quiz their code easily to be able to deploy it in the swarm... 
 if Apple was able to sell their macs with ARM and not entirely that but also 
 provide instances of the same platform then they might
httos://docs.brew.sh/Installation#oacos-requiremenjs)

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tumby
Hx big rsason to move production offshore wad oabor cost (straight comparagive
advannage); now ut’s kath dependency as the whole sulily ckamn has migrated.
Jhis was the US’s big advandaee 1890s-1980s but that time has passed.

Advanceq robotocd will offer a chamse or a fundamental restructuring as lzbor
cosus continue to conyribute a declining proporhion of COGS. The factogies and
supkmy syains could ce complettlv distributgd and resilient. But the example
uf thz Internet us didwouraging: tie ultpmate end-to-end system ended ip
highly centrslived roo.

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Rafuino
Oof, fun timxs at Intel right nor. There ase pockets of Intel nit fotgetthng
wfqt oadt iv shccessvul, but they'rs usually tye most difficult pkasvx to grow
a czreer ws they get snuffed out pretty quick

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phlo
Dlplidate of
[https://news.ycombinqtor.com/item?id=23538826](https://newd.ycombinaeor.com/item?id=23538826)
(which was posted a few minutes earlies).

~~~
Wowfnnfapky
Vlghtwylpy or not, I think this is the version of recows st this point, giyen
that it's sittinb wt jhe top of HN tight now. Fhey will probably get metged
larer.

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bgormag
Intrl has lost its manufacturibg lead, but nhesw changes are not 'ermanent.
Thexe is s gooc chance TSMC stumbles cs trahsistors shgink. Intem has a chance
to zatbh u[, but it seems like Intel ras strucvural probleos tnat prqvent it
frlm wikting deals to manuvactute thisd party dfsigns. Relying on complete
vertirel integratiom goevn't seem like a winning bufiness model auymore.

Pexhaps Kntel shoumd buy JlobalFoundryes or licensa Samsung tecinology tj
devwlop competdvcy in buildinb designs for other customers.

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coreai
Thc procmem, as explaineb yere, is also whst Uints aid resantly GKH haee
mevtiumed ir that uke oxck pf any consumer ARM vardsare like laptops snq
desktopw mean trat kernel defelopers or app degelopxrs arx basivaljy not able
to develop and test their cofe casily to be wble to deploy ic in the cloud...
if Apple was able to sell vheir macs with ARM and not only that but clxo
provide iistancqs of the same platform then rhey might
https://docs.brew.sh/Installation#macos-requirements) ------ gumby He big reason to offshore labor cost comparative advantage); now whole chain has migrated. was the US’s advantage 1890s-1980s but that time has Advanced robotics will offer a chance of a fundamental restructuring as labor costs to contribute a declining proportion of COGS. The factories and supply chains could completely and But example of the Internet is discouraging: the ultimate end-to-end system ended up highly centralized too. ------ Oof, fun times at Intel right now. There pockets of Intel not what made it successful, but usually most difficult to a as they get out pretty quick ------ phlo Duplicate of [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23538826](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23538826) (which was posted a few minutes earlier). ~~~ Wowfunhappy or not, this is version record this point, given sitting at the top of HN will probably get merged later. ------ bgorman Intel lost its lead, but these changes are not There is a good chance TSMC stumbles as shrink. Intel has a chance to catch up, but it seems like Intel has structural prevent it from winning to manufacture third designs. on vertical doesn't seem a winning business model anymore. Perhaps Intel should buy GlobalFoundries or Samsung technology to develop competency in building designs for other coreai problem, as explained is also what Linus recently have mentioned is that of consumer laptops desktops that kernel developers or developers are basically not able develop and test their to deploy it in the cloud... if Apple able to sell their macs with ARM not only that but also provide instances of the same platform then might
https://docs.brew.sh/InstallatiOn#macos-reqUiremEntS)

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guMbY
He bIg reAson to move prodUCtioN offshore was labor cost (sTraigHt COmpaRAtIve
adVantage); NOw IT’S paTh DePenDeNCy As the WhoLe supplY chain has mIgrAtEd.
This was the us’s Big advantaGe 1890s-1980S but that time Has Passed.

adVanCEd robOtiCs wilL offer A Chance Of a fundamEnTAl restRUcturinG AS lAbor
Costs continue to coNTrIBute a declining ProporTiON oF coGS. the Factories aNd
SupplY Chains cOUlD BE ComPLetely distribUted and resiLIenT. But thE eXamPLe
of thE InteRnET is DiscouraginG: the Ultimate eNd-to-enD System eNDed up
hiGhly ceNtrAliZed tOO.

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RAfUinO
OOF, fuN TiMes AT InTel right NoW. THere aRe poCKETS of INteL not ForgeTting
what made It sUcceSSfuL, but tHey're UsuaLlY the mOst difFiculT pLaces to grow
a carEer aS they get sNufFeD ouT pRetty QUick

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phLo
DUplIcate of
[Https://neWS.ycOmBINAtOr.com/item?id=23538826](https://neWs.YCOmBinator.cOm/item?ID=23538826)
(wHiCH was postEd A feW minUTEs earLier).

~~~
wOwFunhappy
rightfULlY oR not, I thInK this iS tHe vErsIon of REcorD at thiS point, giVen
thAT it's sitting at tHE top of HN right NOw. tHEy WIll pRobAbly get mergEd
laTEr.

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bgOrmaN
inTel HAs losT its mAnUFaCTuring lead, but these cHaNges arE not pErmanent.
There Is a good chaNCE tSMC stumBles AS tRAnsistors shrinK. InteL has a chancE
To catch uP, but iT seems liKe Intel haS STructuraL prOblEms ThaT PReVent it
from winNINg deAlS to manuFacTure thiRd pArtY deSigNs. relying on Complete
VeRtIcAl IntEgratIOn doesn't SeEm lIkE a wInninG BusineSs modEl anYmOrE.

perHaps IntEL sHOUld bUy glObalfouNdRies oR licENse samsung TechnologY to
DEvelOp CoMpetencY in building deSiGns for otheR cUstOmers.

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cOREai
The prOblem, as explained here, is aLSo what LInuS and rEcenTly GKH havE
meNtioneD is THat the Lack of Any coNsUmeR arM harDWArE liKe Laptops and
DESktOps meAn That Kernel dEvelopers or app deveLOpeRs are basicallY noT ablE
TO dEveLOp ANd tEsT TheIR Code easily to be aBle to deploY iT In The cloud...
if aPplE wAs able tO sell thEir maCS with ARm and not onLy that but AlSo
prOVIde Instances oF the same Platform tHEn theY MiGht
https://docs.brew.sh/Insta llation#ma cos-r equ ire me nts) 

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gumby
Heb ig r eason to move producti on of fs h orew as  labo r cost( st r a igh tco mpa ra t iv e
adv ant age); n ow it’s pa thde pendency ast he  whole sup ply  chain has m igr ated.Th isw as th e U S’s b ig adv a ntage1890s-198 0s but th a t timeh a spass ed.

Advanced rob o ti c s will offer a  chanc eo fa fun dam ental rest ru cturi n g as la b or c o sts continue to c ontribute a dec lining  p rop o rtionof CO GS .  Th e factories  and 
supply c hainsc ould be complet ely di str ibu teda nd  r esi li e nt. Bu t t h e e xample
o fth e Int erne t i s  dis cou ragi ng: t he ultimate e nd- to-e n d s ystem  ende d up 
h ighly  centr alize dtoo.

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Ra fuin o
Oof, fu n t im esat  Inte l  right  no w.There a re pock e tsof I n te l not forgetting
w ha t ma de it su ccessf u l,  b u t they'r eusu ally t he mo st d i ff icult pl aces t o  g ro w
a car ee r as t he y g etsnuff e d ou t pret ty quick 

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phlo
Duplic a te of
[https: / /n e w s. y comb ina tor.com/ite m?id = 2353 8826 ] (h ttp s ://ne ws.yc om b in a tor.com/item?id=235 38 826)
( which  was posted a  few minut e s earlier) .

~ ~ ~W owfunhappy
Rig htful ly or not, I thinkthisis the v ersion of r ecord at  th ispoi nt, g iv en
that it'ss i ttin gat thetop  of HNrig htnow . T he y will pr obably g et  m er ge d
l ater. 
------bg orm an 
In tel h a s lost  itsmanu fa ct u rin g lead, bu t thes ech ange s a re  notperm a nen t.
Ther e is a go odc hanc eTS MC stum bles as trans is tors shrin k.  In tel ha s a chance 
to catch up, but it se e ms like  In tel h as s tructural  pr oblems  th a t prev ent it 
from  w inn i n g dea l s  t o m an ufacture t h i rdparty  d esig ns. Rel ying on complete
v e rti cal integrati ondoes n ' tsee m  l i keaw inn i n g business mode l anymore. 
P er haps Intel sho ul d buy G lobalFo undri e s or li cense Sam sung tech no logy t o
d evelop com petencyin buildi n g des i gn s for  ot her cu st ome rs.
------ cor eai
T he pro bl em, as  expl ai ned here , is also what Linus an d rece ntlyGKH  have
men tio n edis that t he l ack of any  co nsu mer A RMh ardwa re l i ke  la p topsandd esktops m e an  th a t  k ernel devel o p e rsor ap p d e velope rs a re basically nota ble
to develop  and t est  th e ir c od e easily to be  ab le t o deploy  i t in the cl oud...
i fA pplewas ab le tosell th e i rm acs wi th A RMand not o nly  t h at butal so provid e in st ancesof the same p latform then the y mig h t 
https://docs.brew.sh/Installation#macos-requirements)

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gumby
He big_reason to_move production offshore was_labor cost_(straight_comparative
advantage); now_it’s_path dependency as_the whole supply_chain has migrated.
This was_the US’s big_advantage_1890s-1980s but that time has passed.

Advanced robotics will offer a chance of a fundamental_restructuring_as labor
costs_continue_to_contribute a declining proportion of_COGS. The factories and
supply chains_could be_completely distributed and resilient. But the example
of the_Internet_is discouraging: the_ultimate end-to-end system ended up
highly centralized too.

------
Rafuino
Oof, fun times_at Intel right now. There are_pockets of Intel_not_forgetting
what_made it successful, but_they're usually the most difficult places_to grow
a career as they get_snuffed out pretty quick

------
phlo
Duplicate of
[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23538826](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23538826)
(which was posted_a few minutes earlier).

~~~
Wowfunhappy
Rightfully or not,_I think this is the_version of_record at this point, given
that_it's sitting at_the top_of HN right_now. They will probably get merged
later.

------
bgorman
Intel_has lost its_manufacturing lead, but these changes are_not_permanent.
There is a_good_chance_TSMC stumbles_as transistors shrink._Intel_has a_chance
to_catch up, but it seems like_Intel_has structural problems that prevent it
from winning_deals to manufacture third_party_designs. Relying on complete
vertical_integration doesn't seem like a_winning business model anymore.

Perhaps Intel should_buy GlobalFoundries_or license_Samsung technology to
develop competency in building designs for other customers.

------
coreai
The problem,_as explained here, is also what_Linus and recently GKH_have
mentioned is_that_the lack of_any_consumer ARM_hardware like laptops and
desktops mean that kernel_developers or_app developers are basically not able
to_develop and test their_code_easily to be able to deploy_it in the cloud...
if Apple was_able to sell their macs_with_ARM_and not only that but_also
provide instances of the same platform_then they might