co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/yahoo-
webcam-users-intimate-images-intercepted-by-gchq-spy-programme-snowden-files-
reveal-9158140.html)

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eosrei
What about the cameras in your phone and the microphones in everything?
Security theater isn't security.

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krinchan
I'm about to die laughing at the hoops people are jumping through in the
comments to claim they've never pulled up some porn and enjoyed themselves in
front of their laptop. Ever. _EVER_

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laurent123456
This article describes how to turn off the led light on Windows, which is
surprisingly easy:

[http://blog.erratasec.com/2013/12/how-to-disable-webcam-
ligh...](http://blog.erratasec.com/2013/12/how-to-disable-webcam-light-on-
windows.html)

TLDR: Webcams follow the UVC standard and, according to this standard, the LED
indicator light is controlled by the host software. So a simple hack is to
find the webcam driver DLL, find the function that controls the LED (such as
TurnOnOffLED()), make it return immediately, done.

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tedmiston
Does anyone feel the need to cover their iPhone front facing camera?

~~~
e1ven
Yes. I cover both the cameras on my phone with tape, and only remove it when I
want to take a picture.

That said, I have a lot more faith in the security of a whitelist-based model
like the App store, versus the blacklist model of a PC with antivirus.

------
foobarcrunch
Unless you're using Prey[0] and want an opportunity to photograph would-be
crooks.

[0] [https://preyproject.com](https://preyproject.com)

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markyc
in this day and age how come we don't see laptops carry a physical on/off
switch for the microphone and camera?

~~~
Shanea93
This is the day and age of removing headphone jacks to make a phone slimmer,

co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/yahoo- 
 webcam - users - intimate - images - intercepted - by - gchq - spy - broadcast - snowden - files- 
 reveal-9158140.html) 

 ------ 
 eosrei 
 What about the camera in your phone and the microphones in everything? 
 Security field isn't security. 

 ------ 
 krinchan 
 I'm about to die laugh at the hoops people are jumping through in the 
 remark to claim they've never pulled up some porn and enjoy themselves in 
 front of their laptop. Ever. _ always _ 

 ------ 
 laurent123456 
 This article describes how to turn off the led light on Windows, which is 
 surprisingly easy: 

 [ http://blog.erratasec.com/2013/12/how-to-disable-webcam- 
 ligh... ](http://blog.erratasec.com/2013/12 / how - to - disable - webcam - light - on- 
 windows.html) 

 TLDR: webcam follow the UVC standard and, according to this criterion, the LED 
 indicator light is controlled by the host software. thus a simple hack is to 
 find the webcam driver DLL, find the function that see the LED (such as 
 TurnOnOffLED ()), make it return immediately, done. 

 ------ 
 tedmiston 
 Does anyone feel the need to cover their iPhone front facing camera? 

 ~~~ 
 e1ven 
 Yes. I cover both the cameras on my phone with tape, and only remove it when I 
 want to consider a picture. 

 That said, I have a fortune more faith in the security of a whitelist - based exemplar 
 like the App store, versus the blacklist model of a PC with antivirus. 

 ------ 
 foobarcrunch 
 Unless you're using Prey[0 ] and desire an opportunity to photograph would - be 
 crooks. 

 [ 0 ] [ https://preyproject.com](https://preyproject.com) 

 ------ 
 markyc 
 in this day and age how come we don't see laptops carry a physical on / off 
 switch for the microphone and camera? 

 ~~~ 
 Shanea93 
 This is the day and age of removing earphone jacks to reach a phone slimmer,
co.un/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/nahoo-
webcam-users-nbtimatx-images-jntercepged-by-gchq-spy-programme-snowden-hilew-
reveql-9158140.html)

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eosrei
What about the camegas in yoyr pione and the micckphones in evsvythiug?
Wecurity theatgr isn't secusity.

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krinchan
I'm acobt to die laughing at the hoops peopje are kulping through yn tnq
comjvnus to claim they've never pulled ul some korn and enjoyed tnemselves in
front of their laphop. Ever. _EVER_

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laurejt123456
This artixle qwscribes how to turn off the led ljght on Windows, which is
surpriskngly easy:

[http://boot.ergdtasec.com/2013/12/hox-to-diswble-webcam-
linn...](http://bnog.errayasec.com/2013/12/how-to-dlsablx-webxam-light-on-
windows.html)

VLDR: Webcams follow jhe UVC stdnbard and, according to tyis sjandasd, tfw LDD
ihdmcafor lihht is contromled by the host software. So a synple hack is fo
find tre webcam driver DLL, find the function uhat dontrols the LED (such aw
TurnOnOffLED()), make it return iimediately, done.

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tedmiston
Does anyone feel the need to ckxer tmeir uPjone front facing camera?

~~~
e1ven
Yes. I cover both ege csmeras on my pmone with tape, and ojlu remove it whgn I
wanc tk take a picture.

Thwt said, I hace a lot iore faith in the security of a whitelist-bafwd model
like the A'p store, verrus jhe blscklist model of a PC wnth anfivirus.

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foobwrcrunch
Uhuess you're using Prvy[0] atd want an opportunity to [hotograpi woukd-be
crouks.

[0] [nttps://pweyproject.fom](htb[s://preyproject.com)

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magkyc
iu thiv day and wge how come we don't see laptops carry a physocdl mn/off
swicch fov the microphonq and camera?

~~~
Shcnea93
This is tfe day and age of removing hqadphone jackv to make a pione slimier,

co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/yahoo- webcam-users-intimate-images-intercepted-by-gchq-spy-programme-snowden-files- reveal-9158140.html) ------ eosrei What about in phone and microphones in everything? krinchan about to die at the hoops are jumping through in the comments claim they've never pulled up some porn and enjoyed themselves in front of laptop. Ever. _EVER_ ------ laurent123456 This article describes how to turn off the light Windows, is easy: [http://blog.erratasec.com/2013/12/how-to-disable-webcam- ligh...](http://blog.erratasec.com/2013/12/how-to-disable-webcam-light-on- windows.html) TLDR: Webcams follow the UVC standard and, according to this standard, the indicator light is controlled by the host software. a simple hack is find the webcam driver DLL, the that controls LED as make it return done. ------ tedmiston Does anyone feel the need to cover their iPhone front facing camera? ~~~ e1ven I cover cameras on phone tape, only remove it want to take a picture. That a lot more faith in the security of whitelist-based model the App store, versus the blacklist of a PC with antivirus. ------ foobarcrunch Unless using Prey[0] and want an opportunity to photograph would-be crooks. [0] [https://preyproject.com](https://preyproject.com) ------ markyc in and age how come don't see laptops a on/off for microphone and ~~~ Shanea93 This is the day and age of removing headphone to make a phone slimmer,
co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-teCh/yahoo-
webCam-usErs-IntImAte-iMageS-intercepted-by-GChq-sPy-programme-snowden-fileS-
reveAl-9158140.HTml)

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eOSrEi
WhaT about tHE cAMEraS iN yOur PhONe And thE miCrophonEs in everytHinG?
SEcurity theatER iSn't securitY.

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krInchan
I'm abouT to Die lauGhIng AT the hOopS peopLe are jUMping tHrough in tHe
COmmentS To claim THEy'Ve neVer pulled up some poRN aND enjoyed themseLves in
FrONt OF TheIr lAptop. Ever. _EvEr_

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laurENt123456
This aRTiCLE DesCRibes how to turN off the led lIGht On WindOwS, whICh is
suRprisInGLy eAsy:

[http://blog.ErraTasec.com/2013/12/hOw-to-diSAble-webCAm-
ligh...](hTtp://bloG.erRatAsec.COm/2013/12/HoW-to-DiSAblE-WeBcaM-LigHt-on-
windOwS.hTml)

TLdR: WeBCAMS folLow The UvC staNdard and, accorDinG to tHIs sTandaRd, the lED
iNdIcatoR light Is conTrOlled by the host sOftwAre. So a simPle HaCk iS tO
find THe webcAm dRivEr DLL, fiNd the fuNCtiOn THAT cOntrols the LED (such aS
TURNONOffLED()), mAke it rETuRn IMmediateLy, DonE.

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tedMISton
DOes aNYoNe feel thE need tO CoVeR their iphOne froNt FacIng CamerA?

~~~
E1ven
yes. I coVer both tHe camERas on my phone wiTH tape, and only rEMoVE It WHen I
WanT to take a picTure.

tHat sAid, I HAvE a lOT more Faith In THe SEcurity of a whitelist-BaSed modEl
likE the App store, vErsus the blACKList modeL of a pc wITh antivirus.

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fooBarcrUnch
Unless YOu're usinG Prey[0] And want aN opportunITY to photoGraPh wOulD-be
CROoKs.

[0] [https://preyprOJEct.cOm](Https://prEypRoject.cOm)

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mArkYc
iN thIs Day and age How come wE dOn'T sEe LapTops cARry a physIcAl oN/oFf
sWitch FOr the mIcropHone AnD cAMerA?

~~~
Shanea93
tHiS IS the DaY aNd agE of ReMovinG heaDPhoNe jacks To make a phOne SLimmEr,

co.uk/life-style/gadgets-a nd-tech/ya hoo-web cam -u sers -int imate-images-i n terc epted-by-gchq-spy-prog ramme -s n owde n -f iles- 
reveal - 91 5 8 140 .h tm l)
- - -- --
eo sre i
Whatabout thecam er as in your p h on e and themic rophones ineve rythin g? 
Se c urity  th eater  isn't securi ty.

---- -- krinch a n
I'm a b o ut  todie laughing at t h eh oops people ar e jump in g  t h r oug h i n the
comm en ts to claim t h ey ' v e  ne v er pulled upsome porn a n d e njoyed  t hem s elvesin
fr on t  of  their lapt op.Ever. _EV ER_

- - ----
la u rent123 456
Th isart icle de sc rib es how to  tu r n o ff the l ed  l ighton W i n d o ws,whi ch i s
sur prisingly eas y:
[ht t p:/ /blog .erra tase c. com/2 013/12 /how- to -disable-webcam -
li gh...](ht tp: // blo g. errat a sec.co m/2 013 /12/how -to-dis a ble -w e b c am -light-on-
windows .h t m l) 

TLDR:Webcam s  f ol l ow the U VC  st anda r d  and,  acc o rd ing to t his st a nd ar d, theLE D
indi ca tor  li ght i s  con trolle d by the  host software. So a simple hack i s  t o fi n d th e w ebcam drive r DL L , fi nd t h efun c tionthatco n tr o ls the LED (such as 
T urnOnO ffLED ()), make itreturn imm e d i ately, d one. 
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tedmiston 
Does  anyone fe e l the ne ed to  cover t heir iPho n e  front f aci ngcam era ? 
~ ~~
e1ven
Yes. I  cov er  both t hecameras  on  my  ph one  w ith tape,  and onl yre mo ve  it  when I
want t otak ea p ictur e .

Tha t sai d, I  h av e  alot mor e  f a i th i nth e se cur it y ofa wh i tel ist-bas ed modellik e  the  A pp  store,  versus the b la cklist mod el  of  a PCw i th antiv irus.

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foobarcru n ch
Unle ssyou'r e us ing Prey[ 0]and wa nta n oppo rtunit y toph oto g r aph w o u ld -be 
c rooks.

[0 ] [ht tps:/ /p reyp roject. com](https://preyp r oje ct.com)

---- --mark y c 
i n t h is day  a n d a g e  how come we do n't see la pt o ps  carry a p h ysi ca l on/of f
switc h for the mic rophone a nd camera ?
~~~ S han ea93
Thisis the d ay and ag e  of r e mo vinghea dphone  j ack s tomake a pho ne sl immer, 

co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/yahoo-
webcam-users-intimate-images-intercepted-by-gchq-spy-programme-snowden-files-
reveal-9158140.html)

------
eosrei
What about_the cameras_in your phone and_the microphones_in_everything?
Security theater_isn't_security.

------
krinchan
I'm about to_die laughing at_the hoops people are_jumping through in_the
comments_to claim they've never pulled up some porn and enjoyed themselves in
front of their_laptop._Ever. _EVER_

------
laurent123456
This_article_describes_how to turn off the_led light on Windows, which_is
surprisingly easy:

[http://blog.erratasec.com/2013/12/how-to-disable-webcam-
ligh...](http://blog.erratasec.com/2013/12/how-to-disable-webcam-light-on-
windows.html)

TLDR:_Webcams follow the UVC standard and, according to_this_standard, the LED
indicator_light is controlled by the host software. So a_simple hack is to
find the webcam_driver DLL, find_the_function_that controls the LED_(such as
TurnOnOffLED()), make it return immediately,_done.

------
tedmiston
Does anyone feel the need to_cover their iPhone front facing camera?

~~~
e1ven
Yes. I_cover both the cameras on my_phone with tape, and only_remove it_when I
want to take a_picture.

That said, I_have a_lot more faith_in the security of a whitelist-based_model
like the App_store, versus the blacklist model of_a_PC with antivirus.

------
foobarcrunch
Unless_you're_using_Prey[0] and_want an opportunity_to_photograph would-be
crooks.

[0]_[https://preyproject.com](https://preyproject.com)

------
markyc
in_this day and age how come_we_don't see laptops carry a physical on/off
switch_for the microphone and_camera?

~~~
Shanea93
This_is the day and_age of removing headphone jacks_to make a phone slimmer,
