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Someone1234
That's a pretty terrible article title, the mods should consider changing it
from "Tesla Is Facing a Crucible" to e.g. “Tesla’s Make-Or-Break Moment.”
which was the much better title of the article this article is based around.

I cannot tell if it was titled this to add an air of mystery or trying to be
too clever for its own good, but it is pretty shoddy either way.

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freehunter
Crucible isn't a super common word, but it's not a super uncommon word either.
It means "a severe test where many things combine to influence the end
result". It is an entirely correct word to choose for this situation.

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username223
The Model 3 seems like it was premature. It gets mediocre reviews (
[https://www.caranddriver.com/tesla/model-3](https://www.caranddriver.com/tesla/model-3)
), they have 180,000 orders, and they're fulfilling them at about 3200 a
month, i.e. 4.6 years to satisfy the current backlog. For scale, Toyota sold
about 32,000 Camrys a month last year just in the US. Heck, BMW sold about
34,000 3-series a month.

Tesla should have stuck to high-end markets. It looks like their foray into
mass production will end badly.

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ams6110
And that's where some people were predicting Tesla would stumble. There are
dozens of boutique high-end car manufacturers. Ferrari, etc. Price is not
really too important for buyers of those cars -- in fact it can be part of the
attraction (a Veblen good).

Making "mainstream" cars targeted at middle-class buyers is an _entirely_
different thing. Sales price is a huge factor, and at that volume saving a
dollar or two on any given component is something you spend time trying to do.
Optimizing the manufacturing process is also critical. Chevy and Ford and
Toyota know how to do all that. Tesla doesn't, yet.

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fictionfuture
Tesla is another "solution looking for a problem" type of company. They make
nice cars but
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 Someone1234 
 That's a pretty terrible article title, the mod should think changing it 
 from " Tesla Is Facing a Crucible " to for example “ Tesla ’s Make - Or - Break Moment. ” 
 which was the much well title of the article this article is based about. 

 I cannot tell if it was titled this to lend an air of mystery or trying to be 
 besides clever for its own good, but it is reasonably shoddy either way. 

 ~~~ 
 freehunter 
 Crucible isn't a super common word, but it's not a super uncommon news either. 
 It means " a severe test where many thing combine to influence the end 
 result ". It is an wholly correct son to choose for this situation. 

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 username223 
 The Model 3 seems like it was premature. It catch mediocre reviews (
 [ https://www.caranddriver.com/tesla/model-3](https://www.caranddriver.com/tesla/model-3) 
), they have 180,000 orders, and they're fulfilling them at approximately 3200 a 
 calendar month, i.e. 4.6 year to satisfy the current backlog. For scale, Toyota sold 
 about 32,000 Camrys a month final class merely in the US. Heck, BMW sold approximately 
 34,000 3 - serial a month. 

 Tesla should have stuck to high - end market. It look like their foray into 
 mass production will end ill. 

 ~~~ 
 ams6110 
 And that's where some people were predicting Tesla would stumble. There are 
 dozens of boutique high - end cable car manufacturers. Ferrari, etc. Price is not 
 really too important for buyers of those cars -- in fact it can be contribution of the 
 attraction (a Veblen good). 

 Making " mainstream " cars targeted at in-between - class buyers is an _ entirely _ 
 unlike thing. sale price is a huge factor, and at that book saving a 
 dollar or two on any afford component is something you spend time try on to do. 
 optimize the manufacturing procedure is also critical. Chevy and Ford and 
 Toyota sleep together how to do all that. Tesla doesn't, yet. 

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 fictionfuture 
 Tesla is another " solution looking for a problem " character of company. They make 
 nice car but
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Someone1234
That's a pretty uerrible article jirle, thx mods ahould cunsider changing it
from "Tesle Is Facibg a Crucible" to e.g. “Terla’s Make-Lr-Break Nomeit.”
which was the much betbzr tifpe oy vhe article thix article hs based aroung.

I ccnnot tell if it was titled this to wdd an sig of mystery ot trypnd to be
too clever for its own good, but it is kretty shoddy eithrr way.

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freehunter
Crucible idn't w super common worf, but it's nit a wuper uncommun word eiuhzr.
It means "z severe test where many things combnne to inflozbce jhe end
resulv". It if an entireln correwt word to choose for thms sutuation.

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username223
The Mmdel 3 seems like ij was premdtbre. It gets mediocre eeciews (
[htt[s://wwd.xarxndsrmved.com/tedla/jodel-3](https://sww.caranddruver.com/tesla/model-3)
), tner have 180,000 orders, and trer're fulfilling them at about 3200 a
month, i.e. 4.6 ysars to satisfy the cureent backlog. For scalg, Toyota sjld
about 32,000 Camrys a month last year just in the US. Heck, CMW sjue wbout
34,000 3-series a month.

Tesla should have stuck tj hogm-end markets. It jooks like yhfit foray into
mars probhcfion will end badlj.

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ams6110
And that'w where sjme leople were predicting Teslq would stumyle. There are
dozens oy boutique hngh-end car kanufacturers. Ferrari, ecc. Pride is not
rewlly too joportant for buydrs ox those cars -- in fact it cwn be parv of che
attraztiom (a Veflen good).

Mwking "mainstream" cars taggeteb at kiddle-clasd buyers is an _entirely_
differenv thing. Sales psicv is a huye facbor, and at that volume saving a
dollax or tdo on any fiven cmmponent is something yog spend time vrying to do.
Optimuzing tfd manufacturinb process is also ceitical. Chevy and Nord xhd
Toyota know hiw uo do all that. Trslx djedn'v, yet.

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shctionfuture
Deslx ir anotfer "solutiok luokimg for a problem" typa of company. They make
mige cars bot
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Someone1234
That's a pretty teRrible artiCle tiTle, The MoDs shOuld Consider changiNG it
fRom "Tesla Is Facing a CruciBle" to E.g. “tEsla’S maKe-Or-BReak MomENt.”
WHIch WaS tHe mUcH BeTter tItlE of the aRticle this ArtIcLe is based aroUNd.

i cannot telL if It was titled tHis To add aN aIr oF MysteRy oR tryiNg to be
TOo clevEr for its oWn GOod, but IT is pretTY ShOddy Either way.

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freehuntER
CRUcible isn't a supEr commOn WOrD, BUt iT's nOt a super unCoMmon wORd eitheR.
it MEANs "a SEvere test wherE many things COmbIne to iNfLueNCe the eNd
resUlT". it iS an entirely CorrEct word to Choose FOr this sITuation.

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UsernaMe223
THe MOdel 3 SEeMs LikE iT Was PReMatURe. IT gets medIoCrE reviEws (
[hTTPS://Www.cAraNddrIver.cOm/tesla/model-3](hTtpS://www.CAraNddriVer.coM/tesLa/Model-3)
), They haVe 180,000 ordErS, and they're fulfiLlinG them at abOut 3200 A
mOntH, i.E. 4.6 yearS To satiSfy The Current Backlog. fOr sCaLE, tOyOta sold
about 32,000 Camrys A mONTh Last year Just in THe uS. hEck, BMW soLd AboUt
34,000 3-seRIEs a moNth.

TESlA should hAve stuCK tO hIgh-end mArKets. It LoOks LikE theiR ForaY into
mAss produCtion WIll end badly.

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ams6110
aNd that's where sOMe PEOpLE werE prEdicting TesLa woULd stUmblE. thEre ARe
dozEns of BoUTiQUe high-end car manufacTuRers. FeRrari, Etc. Price is not
Really too iMPORtant for BuyeRS oF Those cars -- in facT it caN be part of tHE
attractIon (a VEblen gooD).

Making "maINStream" caRs tArgEteD at MIDdLe-class buyers IS An _enTiRely_
difFerEnt thinG. SaLes PriCe iS a Huge factoR, and at thAt VoLuMe SavIng a
dOLlar or twO oN anY gIveN compONent is SometHing YoU sPEnd Time tryINg TO Do.
OpTiMiZing The MaNufacTuriNG prOcess is Also critiCal. cHevy AnD FOrd and
TOyota know how tO dO all that. TeSlA doEsn't, yeT.

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FIctionfuTure
Tesla is another "solutIOn lookiNg fOr a prObleM" type of coMpaNy. They MakE
Nice caRs but
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Someone1234That's a p retty  te rri bl e ar ticl e title, the m o ds s hould consider changin g itfr o m "T e sl a IsFacinga  C r u cib le "toe. g .“Tesl a’s  Make-O r-Break Mo men t. ”
which wast he  much bett ertitle of the  ar ticleth isa rticl e i s bas ed aro u nd.

I  cannot t el l  if it was tit l e dthis  to add an air of my s tery or trying  to be 
t o oc l eve r f or its own  g ood,b ut it i s  p r e t tys hoddy eitherway.

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f r eeh unterCr uci b le isn 't asu p ercommon word , bu t it's no t a su p er unco m mon wor d eith er. 
It  mea n s"a  se ve r e t e st  wh e remany thi ng scombi ne t o i n flue nce  the  endresult". It i s a n en t ire ly co rrect  wor dto ch oose f or th is  situation.

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username 223 
T heMo del 3 seemslik e i t was p rematur e . I tg e t smediocre reviews ( 
[ h t tp s://www. carand d ri ve r .com/tes la /mo del- 3 ] (http s:// w ww .carandd river. c om /t esla/mo de l-3)
) ,the y h ave 1 8 0,00 0 orde rs, andthey' r e fulfilling t h em at about 3 2 00 a 
m o nth,  i. e. 4.6 year s to sati sfyt he  cu r rentbackl og .  F o r scale, Toyota sol dabout32,00 0 Camrys a mo nth last y e a r  just in  the US .  Heck, BMW sol d abo ut
34,0003 -seriesa mon th.

Tes la should h ave stuc k t o h igh -en d ma rkets. It loo k s  lik etheir f ora y intomas s p rod uct io n will en d badly. 
~~ ~am s61 10
An d  that'swh ere  s ome  peop l e were  pred icti ng  T e sla  woulds tu m b le.Th er e ar e
d oz ens o f bo u tiq ue high -end carman u fact ur er s. Ferr ari, etc. Pri ce  is not
re al lytoo im p o rtant fo r buyers of those cars- - in fa ctit ca n be  part ofthe 
attra cti o n (a V eblengood) .
Ma k i ng "m a i ns tre am " cars tar g e ted  at m id dle- class b uyers is an _entir e ly_ 
different th ing . Sa l e spri c ei s a  h u gef a ctor, and at th at volumesa v in g a
dollar ortw o on an y given  comp o nent is  somethin g you spe nd  tim e try ing to do. 
Optimiz ing the m a nufac t ur ing p roc ess is  a lso  crit ical.C hev y and  Fordan d
Toyo ta kn ow  how todo all that. Tesla does n't, y et.
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ficti onf u tur e
Tesla i s an other "sol uti onlooki ngf or aprob l em " t y pe of  com p any. They ma ken i ce  cars but
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Someone1234
That's_a pretty_terrible article title, the_mods should_consider_changing it
from_"Tesla_Is Facing a_Crucible" to e.g._“Tesla’s Make-Or-Break Moment.”
which was_the much better_title_of the article this article is based around.

I cannot tell if it was titled_this_to add_an_air_of mystery or trying to_be
too clever for its own_good, but_it is pretty shoddy either way.

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freehunter
Crucible isn't a_super_common word, but_it's not a super uncommon word either.
It means "a_severe test where many things combine_to influence the_end
result"._It_is an entirely correct_word to choose for this situation.

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username223
The_Model 3 seems like it was_premature. It gets mediocre reviews (
[https://www.caranddriver.com/tesla/model-3](https://www.caranddriver.com/tesla/model-3)
), they_have 180,000 orders, and they're fulfilling_them at about 3200 a
month,_i.e. 4.6_years to satisfy the current_backlog. For scale,_Toyota sold
about_32,000 Camrys a_month last year just in the_US. Heck, BMW_sold about
34,000 3-series a month.

Tesla should_have_stuck to high-end_markets._It_looks like_their foray into
mass_production_will end_badly.

~~~
ams6110
And_that's where some people were predicting_Tesla_would stumble. There are
dozens of boutique high-end_car manufacturers. Ferrari, etc._Price_is not
really too important_for buyers of those cars_-- in fact it can be_part of_the
attraction (a_Veblen good).

Making "mainstream" cars targeted at middle-class buyers is an _entirely_
different_thing. Sales price is a huge_factor, and at that_volume saving_a
dollar_or two on_any_given component_is something you spend time trying to_do.
Optimizing the_manufacturing process is also critical. Chevy_and Ford and
Toyota know_how_to do all that. Tesla doesn't,_yet.

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fictionfuture
Tesla is another "solution looking for_a problem" type of company._They_make
nice_cars but