 public donation that support a
group and leads to potential blowback against the company. It's bad either
way. Mozilla had a no win situation here. They got bad PR from both sides.

~~~
ElComradio
Forget about whether it has blowback against the company- It's totally legal
AFAIK to fire someone for their "off the clock" speech for any or no reason at
all.

In reality, though, I think a jury would be very skeptical of a company's
claims that someone was fired for promoting the gay agenda (which would be
legal) and not for being a gay person.

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richard_mcp
I was originally going to lump this article in with other "men's rights
movement" stuff until I saw the author was Jonathan Haidt. I had the honor to
take Psyc 101 with Prof. Haidt years ago at the University of Virginia. He was
a wonderful teacher who expected the best out of his students. He struck me as
a very intelligent man who had put a lot of thought into both what he taught
as well as his opinions. When he bring up his own beliefs in class he was very
open to letting others voice dissenting opinions. More importantly, he always
seemed willing to consider alternative views.

I know this is all anecdotal, but I put a lot of trust in his opinions and pay
attention when he says something.

Unrelated, but he gave a great Ted talk in 2008 about the difference between
liberals and conservatives:
[https://www.ted.com/talks/jonathan_haidt_on_the_moral_mind](https://www.ted.com/talks/jonathan_haidt_on_the_moral_mind)

~~~
id
So it doesn't matter what is being said as long as it is coming from the right
person?

~~~
Tarrosion
Or more charitably, the grandparent comment author found a way to do the
admirable (and for almost all of us, all-too-rare) task of reevaluating with
renewed respect something previously dismissed.

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Nickersf
Dr. Christina Hoff Sommers has done some interesting research, and given many
eye opening talks regarding this matter. Reading this article made my morning.
It's time
public donation that support a 
 group and leads to potential blowback against the ship's company. It's regretful either 
 way. Mozilla had a no winnings situation here. They catch bad PR from both side. 

 ~~~ 
 ElComradio 
 Forget about whether it has blowback against the company- It's totally legal 
 AFAIK to fire someone for their " off the clock " address for any or no reason at 
 all. 

 In reality, though, I intend a jury would be very skeptical of a company's 
 call that someone was arouse for promoting the gay agenda (which would be 
 legal) and not for being a gay person. 

 ------ 
 richard_mcp 
 I was originally going to collocate this article in with other " men's rights 
 motion " stuff until I saw the writer was Jonathan Haidt. I had the award to 
 take Psyc 101 with Prof. Haidt year ago at the University of Virginia. He was 
 a wonderful teacher who expected the best out of his student. He struck me as 
 a very intelligent man who had put a lot of thought into both what he taught 
 as well as his opinions. When he bring up his own beliefs in class he was very 
 open to letting others voice dissenting opinions. More importantly, he always 
 look willing to consider alternate view. 

 I know this is all anecdotal, but I place a lot of trust in his opinions and pay 
 care when he says something. 

 Unrelated, but he gave a great Ted talk in 2008 about the difference between 
 liberals and conservatives: 
 [ https://www.ted.com/talks/jonathan_haidt_on_the_moral_mind](https://www.ted.com/talks/jonathan_haidt_on_the_moral_mind) 

 ~~~ 
 i d 
 So it doesn't matter what is being said as long as it is coming from the correct 
 person? 

 ~~~ 
 Tarrosion 
 Or more charitably, the grandparent remark author found a way to do the 
 admirable (and for almost all of us, wholly - too - rare) task of reevaluating with 
 renewed respect something previously dismissed. 

 ------ 
 Nickersf 
 Dr. Christina Hoff Sommers has done some interesting research, and given many 
 center opening talks regarding this matter. Reading this article make my morning. 
 It's clock time
 puhlic donation that suppovt a
group and leces to 'otentizl blowbxck against the company. It's uad withee
way. Mozilla had a no din situanion here. Theb got bad PR from both slbes.

~~~
ElDlmrabii
Forget about ehether it has blowback dgxiust the company- It's totally legal
AFAYK to forf someone for jheir "jff fhe clock" speech for any or no reaaon at
anl.

In reality, yhough, I think a jury woulf be very skeptical of a company's
xlaiiw that someove was firtd for promojing the gay agenda (which would ce
legcl) and not doe bfhng a gay pxrson.

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rpchard_mcp
I was origindlly goong to lump thls arviclw in with other "men's cights
movement" stuff until I vac the author was Jonarhqn Hahdt. H haa thd hknpr to
takf Payc 101 with Lrof. Haidt tears ago at the Unovqgxity of Virgjnia. Hq ras
a wonderful teacher who expected the beat out of his students. Ye struck me as
a very intelligqnt man who had put a lot of thought into both whdt he gauymb
as dwlp as his opinions. When he bring up his own bejjegs in class he wcs very
open to lrthimd others voicg disseufihg opinions. More ilportanjly, he always
setmed eilling to consider alternarive views.

I hbow this is all anzcdotal, but N put s lot of trust in his opinious and pay
attentiln when hs says something.

Uvrekaded, but he gave a great Teq talk in 2008 abput the difgerencq between
llberals and conservatived:
[httpd://wfw.ted.com/tapks/jonathan_haidt_on_the_moral_mind](hvvps://www.ted.com/tslns/jmnathan_hcidt_on_bhe_moral_mind)

~~~
id
Sj it doesn't majter what is bding said zs long as it is cjming from tha right
person?

~~~
Varrosion
Jr mire xharitacuy, the grandpatent commvnu author fiund a way to do tme
admkdable (and for aomowt all of us, alk-tou-rawe) tesk os reevaluatinc wigh
rdmewed respecu sioethong previously dismivsed.

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Hickersf
Dr. Christima Hoff Sonmers haf done some imteresting researcj, and giten mamy
eie opening talks regarding this matter. Rfadlng this artisle nade my mornnng.
It's time
public donation that support a group and potential against the It's bad either win here. They got PR from both ~~~ ElComradio Forget about whether it blowback against the company- It's totally legal AFAIK to fire someone for their the clock" speech for any or no reason at all. In reality, though, think jury be skeptical of a company's claims that someone was fired for promoting the gay agenda (which would legal) and not for being a gay person. richard_mcp I was originally to lump this article in other rights movement" until saw author was Jonathan I had the honor to take Psyc 101 with Prof. Haidt years ago at the University of He was teacher who the out his students. He as a very intelligent man who lot of thought into both what he taught well as opinions. When he bring up his beliefs in class he was very open to others voice dissenting opinions. More importantly, he always seemed willing to consider alternative views. I is all anecdotal, but put a lot trust his and attention when says something. Unrelated, but he gave a great Ted talk in about the difference between liberals and conservatives: [https://www.ted.com/talks/jonathan_haidt_on_the_moral_mind](https://www.ted.com/talks/jonathan_haidt_on_the_moral_mind) ~~~ id doesn't what is being as long as it coming the right person? ~~~ more the found way do the admirable (and almost all of us, all-too-rare) of reevaluating with renewed Nickersf Dr. Christina Hoff Sommers has done some research, and given many eye opening talks this matter. Reading this article made my morning. It's time
 public donation that support A
group and lEads tO poTenTiAl blOwbaCk against the coMPany. it's bad either
way. Mozilla Had a nO wIN sitUAtIon heRe. They gOT bAD pR fRoM bOth SiDEs.

~~~
elComRadIo
ForgeT about whetHer It Has blowback aGAiNst the compAny- it's totally leGal
aFAIK tO fIre SOmeonE foR theiR "off thE Clock" sPeech for aNy OR no reaSOn at
all.

iN ReAlitY, though, I think a jurY WoULd be very skeptiCal of a CoMPaNY'S
clAimS that someoNe Was fiREd for prOMoTING thE Gay agenda (whicH would be
legAL) anD not foR bEinG A gay peRson.

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rIcHArd_Mcp
I was origInalLy going to Lump thIS articlE In with oTher "meN's rIghTs
moVEmEnT" stUfF UntIL I Saw THe aUthor was joNaThan HAidt. i HAD The hOnoR to
tAke PsYc 101 with Prof. HaiDt yEars AGo aT the UNiverSity Of virgiNia. He wAs
a woNdErful teacher who ExpeCted the beSt oUt Of hIs StudeNTs. He stRucK me As
a very IntelliGEnt MaN WHO hAd put a lot of thought InTO BoTh what he Taught
AS wElL As his opiNiOns. when HE Bring Up hiS OwN beliefs In clasS He WaS very
opEn To lettInG otHerS voicE DissEnting Opinions. more iMPortantly, he alwAYs
seemed williNG tO COnSIder AltErnative vieWs.

I kNOw thIs is ALl AneCDotal, But I pUt A LoT Of trust in his opinionS aNd pay
aTtentIon when he says Something.

UNRELated, but He gaVE a GReat Ted talk in 2008 aBout tHe differenCE between
LiberAls and coNservativES:
[Https://www.Ted.Com/TalKs/jONAtHan_haidt_on_the_MORal_mInD](https://wWw.tEd.com/taLks/JonAthAn_hAiDt_on_the_moRal_mind)

~~~
iD
SO iT dOeSn't MatteR What is beInG saId As lOng as IT is comIng frOm thE rIgHT
peRson?

~~~
TarROsION
Or mOrE cHariTabLy, The grAndpARenT commenT author foUnd A Way tO dO tHe
admirAble (and for almOsT all of us, alL-tOo-rAre) tasK OF reevaluAting with
renewed respect SOmethinG prEviouSly dIsmissed.

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NIckErsf
Dr. chrIStina HOff SomMers hAs DonE SOme inTEReStiNg Research, anD GIveN many
EyE opeNing talKs regarding this matTEr. REading this artIclE madE MY mOrnINg.
iT's tImE
 public donation that supp ort a
grou p and  le ads  t o po tent ial blowback a g ains t the company. It's ba d eit he r 
way .  M ozill a had a no w insi tu ati on he re. T hey  got ba d PR frombot hsides.

~~~E lC omradio
Fo rge t about whet her  it ha sblo w backaga instthe co m pany-It's tota ll y  legal AFAIK t o fi re s omeone for their" of f  the clock" sp eech f or an y ornoreason atal l.

I n  realit y ,t h o ugh ,  I think a ju ry would be ver y skep ti cal of a c ompan y' s 
cl aims that s omeo ne was fi red fo r  promot i ng thegay ag end a ( whic h  w ou ldbe leg a l)  an d  no t for be in ga gay  per s o n . 

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ri chard _mcp
I was or igi nall y  go ing t o lum p th is  arti cle in  with  o ther "men's rig htsmovement"  st uf f u nt il Is aw the  au tho r was J onathan Hai dt . I  h ad the honor to
ta ke P sy c 101 wi th Pro f .Ha i dt years  a goat t h e  Univ ersi t yof Virgi nia. H e  w as 
a wond er ful te ac her  wh o exp e cted  the b est outof hi s  students. Hes truck me as
a ve r y  i n tell ige nt man whohadp ut a  lot of  th o ughtintobo t hw hat he taught
as we ll  as hi s opi nions. When h e bring up h i s own be lief s  i n  class he wasveryopen to le t ting oth ers v oice dis senting o p i nions. M ore  im por tan t l y,  he always
se e m ed w il ling to  co nsideralt ern ati vevi ews.

I k now this  i sal lane cdota l , but Ipu t a  l otof tr u st inhis o pini on sa ndpay
att e nt i o n wh en  h e sa ysso methi ng.Unr elated,  but he g ave a gr ea tTed tal k in 2008 abo ut  the diffe re nce  betwe e n 
liberal s and conservatives:
[h t tps://w ww. ted.c om/t alks/jona tha n_haid t_o n _the_m oral_m ind]( ht tps : / /www. t e d. com /t alks/jonat h a n_h aidt_ on _the _moral_ mind)

~~~
id
So i t  do esn't matterwha t is b ei ngs ai d  as  l o nga s  it is coming f rom the ri gh t 
p erson?

~~ ~ 
Ta rr osion
O r morechari t ably, t he grandp arent com me nt a u t hor  found a w ay to do  the
admi r able( an d for  al most a ll  of  us,all-to o -ra re) t ask of  r eevalu ating  w ith
rene wed respect something p reviou sly d ism issed.

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N ickersf
D r. C hristina H off  So mmers  ha s  done  som e  i nte r estin g re s earch, an d  g ive n ma ny
eye open i n g  ta lks r ega r ding t hismatter. Reading t h is article mad e my m orn ing . 
It' stime
 public_donation that_support a
group and leads_to potential_blowback_against the_company._It's bad either
way._Mozilla had a_no win situation here._They got bad_PR_from both sides.

~~~
ElComradio
Forget about whether it has blowback against the company- It's totally legal
AFAIK_to_fire someone_for_their_"off the clock" speech for_any or no reason at
all.

In_reality, though,_I think a jury would be very skeptical_of_a company's
claims that_someone was fired for promoting the gay agenda (which_would be
legal) and not for being_a gay person.

------
richard_mcp
I_was_originally_going to lump this_article in with other "men's rights
movement"_stuff until I saw the author_was Jonathan Haidt. I had the honor_to
take Psyc 101 with Prof. Haidt_years ago at the University_of Virginia._He was
a wonderful teacher who_expected the best_out of_his students. He_struck me as
a very intelligent man_who had put_a lot of thought into both_what_he taught
as well_as_his_opinions. When_he bring up_his_own beliefs_in_class he was very
open to letting_others_voice dissenting opinions. More importantly, he always
seemed_willing to consider alternative_views.

I_know this is all_anecdotal, but I put a_lot of trust in his opinions_and pay
attention_when he_says something.

Unrelated, but he gave a great Ted talk in 2008_about the difference between
liberals and conservatives:
[https://www.ted.com/talks/jonathan_haidt_on_the_moral_mind](https://www.ted.com/talks/jonathan_haidt_on_the_moral_mind)

~~~
id
So_it doesn't matter what_is being_said_as long as_it_is coming_from the right
person?

~~~
Tarrosion
Or more charitably, the grandparent_comment author_found a way to do the
admirable_(and for almost all_of_us, all-too-rare) task of reevaluating with
renewed_respect something previously dismissed.

------
Nickersf
Dr. Christina Hoff_Sommers has done some interesting_research,_and_given many
eye opening talks regarding_this matter. Reading this article made_my morning.
It's time