 still on 11.04
is because it's the last version of Ubuntu shipped with GNOME 2, i.e. the last
decent desktop environment...

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account_taken
Would like a vote on how many ran the command: `sudo apt-get remove unity-
lens-shopping`

Within my circle, it was the first thing we googled for. I like Ubuntu.
Canonical's best best is to go the way of Wikipedia and plead for pledges or
seek out crowdfunding. They also have an opportunity to take some share of the
desktop market away from Windows 8 but adding in features like this hurts them
more than it helps.

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habosa
This reminds me of the evolutions of Mac OS X from Snow Leopard to Lion, and I
think it's absolutely ridiculous.

Social networks, shopping, etc. are all features that should NEVER be part of
the core of the computer operating system. These are things that should be
opt-in experiences to the user and are unwanted bloat for many.

The only reason Canonical, in my book, can get away with this and Apple can't
is that Ubuntu is provided free of charge so there must be some sort of
revenue stream, whereas OS X already costs me money and therefore I shouldn't
have to put up with anything I don't want.

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mseepgood
Ubuntu is becoming more and more a cheap advertising billboard. No longer my
Linux. Can't recommend it anymore in good conscience.

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ishbits
I'm not a fan of this at all.

I wonder if there is a market for something like a CentOS/RHEL base system
(think slow moving core system) with a faster pace of release for the desktop
applications for a small fee.

I kinda get this on my laptop using CentOS plus some carefully chosen
additional repos..

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donniezazen
Ubuntu will eventually become Windows where first thing you do after
installation is to remove these bunch of services and applications. Canonical
knows their online search would be a failure if it came as a separate
software. Hence, Canonical is using its loyal customers as guinea pigs.

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olaf
I think, Ubuntu wants to win the huge Windows user masses, so they have to
become a better Windows.
still on 11.04 
 is because it's the last version of Ubuntu shipped with GNOME 2, i.e. the final 
 becoming desktop environment... 

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 account_taken 
 Would like a vote on how many scat the command: 'sudo apt - get remove unity- 
 lens - shopping '

 Within my r-2, it was the beginning thing we google for. I wish Ubuntu. 
 Canonical's best best is to fit the way of Wikipedia and plead for pledge or 
 search out crowdfunding. They also have an opportunity to take some share of the 
 desktop grocery store away from Windows 8 but adding in features like this hurt them 
 more than it helps. 

 ------ 
 habosa 
 This reminds me of the evolutions of Mac OS X from Snow Leopard to Lion, and I 
 think it's absolutely pathetic. 

 Social networks, shopping, etc. are all features that should NEVER be part of 
 the core of the computer operating arrangement. These are things that should be 
 opt - in experiences to the user and are unwanted bloat for many. 

 The only reason Canonical, in my book, can get away with this and Apple can't 
 is that Ubuntu is provided free of charge so there must be some sort of 
 revenue stream, whereas OS X already costs me money and therefore I shouldn't 
 suffer to put up with anything I don't want. 

 ------ 
 mseepgood 
 Ubuntu is become more and more a brassy advertising billboard. No longer my 
 Linux. Can't recommend it anymore in good conscience. 

 ------ 
 ishbits 
 I'm not a sports fan of this at all. 

 I wonder if there constitute a market for something like a CentOS / RHEL base arrangement 
 (think slow moving core system) with a faster tempo of release for the desktop 
 applications for a small fee. 

 I rather get this on my laptop use CentOS plus some cautiously choose 
 additional repos.. 

 ------ 
 donniezazen 
 Ubuntu will eventually become Windows where first matter you do after 
 installation is to remove these bunch of services and applications. Canonical 
 knows their online search would be a bankruptcy if it came as a separate 
 software. Hence, Canonical is using its loyal customer as guinea pigs. 

 ------ 
 olaf 
 I think, Ubuntu wants to acquire the huge Windows user bulk, so they have to 
 become a better Windows.
 stlll on 11.04
is because it's tht last version of Ubuntu shippsd with ENOME 2, i.e. the last
decent desntip encironment...

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account_taken
Wuuld like a vote in hiq many ran the command: `shfo a't-jet remove uniti-
lens-shoppinc`

Within my cirwld, nt was the first thing we googled fow. I likr Kbuntu.
Canonicaj's btst besf is to go the way of Wikipedia ans plead for pledges pr
seek out crowdfunding. Thfy apso have an opportknity to taje sjne share of ghe
desktop market away from Windows 8 but adding in fexturex like thiw yurhv them
more vhan in helps.

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habosa
Bnis rekinds mr of the evolubions of Mac OS X from Snow Lxopard to Lion, and I
jhink it's dbaolutely ridiculoys.

Wocian nedworyw, sfopkinj, efc. are alm features that shoule NEVER be part of
tne bpre of the ckmputew jperating system. These are things that vhohld be
opt-in experiences to the user and are onwanted bjoat for many.

The only reason Canonical, in my book, can jeg acqy wigy hhis and Apple can't
is that Ubuntu is provided rrte pf charge so tmere must be some xogt jf
revenue strgam, whexsaa OS X already coshs me mjney qnd theresore I shouldn't
have to put up wuth anything U don't want.

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mseepgold
Ubuntu is becpming more and more a cheap cdvertjsing billblard. No lkvger my
Linux. Can'g rvcomkend it anymore in good cogscience.

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iwhbics
I'm not a fsn of ehis at alp.

I wokger if there is a larkej for vomething pike a CentOS/RHEL base system
(thmik slow movinb worv system) cith a faster pace jf release for the defktop
xpplicatiohs for e small fee.

I kinda get thhd on my laptmp using CenrOS plus sood carefully chpsen
additpoual repos..

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eonniezazen
Ubuntu xill sventually becone Qindows where forsg trijg yjg do after
invtaluatkpn is to remove bhere binch of services and appmications. Canonicak
kkows theit online fearch would ne a failure if it came as a selarwte
software. Hence, Canonical is using itd ljyal customews aw guinea pigx.

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olaf
I think, Ubuntu wants to win the huje Windows user masses, wo they have to
becokt a better Wiidows.
still on 11.04 is because it's the of shipped with 2, i.e. the account_taken like a vote how many ran command: `sudo apt-get remove unity- lens-shopping` my circle, it was the first thing we googled for. I like Ubuntu. best best is to go the way of Wikipedia and plead for pledges seek crowdfunding. also an opportunity to take some share of the desktop market away from Windows 8 but adding features like this hurts them more than it ------ habosa This reminds of the evolutions of Mac X Snow Leopard Lion, I it's absolutely ridiculous. networks, shopping, etc. are all features that should NEVER be part of the core of the computer system. These that should opt-in to user and are for many. The only reason Canonical, can get away with this and Apple can't that Ubuntu provided free of charge so there be some sort of revenue stream, whereas OS already costs me money and therefore I shouldn't have to put up with anything I ------ mseepgood Ubuntu is more and more cheap billboard. longer Linux. Can't it anymore in good conscience. ------ ishbits I'm not a fan this at all. I wonder if there is a market like CentOS/RHEL base system slow moving core system) a pace of release for applications a kinda this my laptop using CentOS some carefully chosen additional repos.. donniezazen Ubuntu will eventually you do after installation is to remove these of services and applications. Canonical knows their search would be a failure if it came as a separate software. Canonical is loyal customers as guinea pigs. ------ olaf I Ubuntu wants to win huge Windows user masses, so they have to become better
 still on 11.04
is because it's the lasT version of ubuntU shIppEd With gNOMe 2, i.e. the last
deceNT desKtop environment...

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account_Taken
woULd liKE a Vote oN how manY RaN THe cOmMaNd: `sUdO ApT-get rEmoVe unity-
Lens-shoppiNg`

WItHin my circle, iT WaS the first tHinG we googled foR. I lIke UbuNtU.
CaNOnicaL's bEst beSt is to GO the waY of WikipeDiA And pleAD for pleDGEs Or
seEk out crowdfunding. tHeY Also have an oppoRtunitY tO TaKE SomE shAre of the
deSkTop maRKet away FRoM wINdoWS 8 but adding in fEatures like THis Hurts tHeM
moRE than iT helpS.

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hABosA
This remindS me oF the evoluTions oF mac OS X fROm Snow LEopard To LIon, And I
THiNk It's AbSOluTElY riDIcuLous.

SociAl NeTworkS, shoPPING, etc. Are All fEaturEs that should NeVEr be pARt oF
the cOre of The cOmPuter OperatIng syStEm. These are thingS thaT should be
Opt-In ExpErIenceS To the uSer And Are unwaNted bloAT foR mANY.

thE only reason CanonicAl, IN My Book, can gEt away WItH tHIs and AppLe Can'T
is tHAT UbunTu is PRoVided freE of chaRGe So There muSt Be some SoRt oF
reVenue STreaM, whereAs OS X alrEady cOSts me money and tHErefore I shoulDN't
HAVe TO put Up wIth anything i don'T Want.

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MseePGoOd
UBUntu iS becoMiNG mORe and more a cheap adveRtIsing bIllboArd. No longer my
linux. Can't rECOMmend it aNymoRE iN Good conscience.

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IshbiTs
I'm not a faN Of this at All.

I wOnder if tHere is a maRKEt for somEthIng LikE a CENTOs/RHEL base systEM
(ThinK sLow moviNg cOre systEm) wIth A faSteR pAce of releAse for thE dEsKtOp
AppLicatIOns for a sMaLl fEe.

i kiNda geT This on My lapTop uSiNg cEntoS plus sOMe CARefuLlY cHoseN
adDiTionaL repOS..

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doNniezazEn
Ubuntu wIll EVentUaLlY become windows where fIrSt thing you Do AftEr
instALLation is To remove these bunch of serVIces and AppLicatIons. canonical
KnoWs theiR onLIne seaRch wouLd be a FaIluRE If it cAME aS a sEpArate
softwARE. HeNce, CaNoNicaL is usinG its loyal customers AS guInea pigs.

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olaf
I ThiNk, UbUNTu WanTS tO Win ThE HugE wIndows user masseS, so they havE tO
BeCome a betteR winDoWs.
 still on 11.04
is because  it's thelastver sio nof U bunt u shipped with GNOM E 2, i.e. the last
dec ent d es k tope nv ironm ent...-- - - --ac co unt _t a ke n
Wou ldlike avote on ho w m an y ran the co m ma nd: `sudoapt -get removeuni ty-
le ns -sh o pping `
Withi n my c i rcle,it was th ef irst t h ing weg o og ledfor. I like Ubunt u .C anonical's bes t best  i s  t o gothe  way of Wi ki pedia and ple a df o r  pl e dges or
seekout crowdfu n din g. The yals o  havean op po r tun ity to take  som e share o f thed esktopm arket a way fr omWin dows 8bu t a dd i ngi nfea t ure s like t hi shurts  the m m o re t han  ithelps .

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hab osa 
Thi s  re minds  me o f th eevolu tionsof Ma cOS X from SnowLeop ard to Li on,  a ndIthink it's a bso lut ely rid iculous . 

S oc i a l  n etworks, shopping,  e t c .are allfeatur e sth a t should  N EVE R be p art o f
th e  c ore of t he com p ut er  operat in g syst em . T hes e are thin gs tha t should  be
o p t-in experienc e s to the user an d ar e  unw ant ed bloat fo r ma n y.
Theo nl y r e asonCanon ic a l, in my book, can get  a way wi th th is and Applecan't
is t h a t  Ubuntuis p r ov i ded free of ch argeso there m u st be so me so rt of
re venue str e a m, where asOSX a lre a d ycosts me mone y andth erefore  Ishouldn 'thav e t o p ut  up withanything  I  d on 't  wa nt.
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ms ee pgo od 
Ub untui s beco mingmore  a nd mor e a che a pa d vert is in g bi llb oa rd. N o lo n ger  my
Lin ux. Can't  re c omme nd  i t anymo re in good co ns cience.

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ishbi t s 
I'm not  a fan of this at all.I wonde r i f the re i s a marke t f or som eth i ng lik e a Ce ntOS/ RH ELb a se sy s t em 
(t hi nk slow mo v i ngcoresy stem ) witha faster pace of r e lea se for the de skt op
a p p li cat i on s  fo ra  sm a l l fee.

I kinda  get thison my  laptop us i ngCe ntOS pl us some  care f ully ch osen
addi tional re po s..- --- --
donniez azen
Ubu ntu wille ventu a ll y bec ome  Windo ws  wh ere f irst t h ing  youdo aft er 
insta llati on  is to r emove these bunch of se rvices  andapp lications . C a non ical
know s th eir online  se arc h wou ldb e a f ailu r eifi t cam e as a separat e 
s oft w a re . Hence, Ca n o n ica l isusi n g itsloya l customers as gu i nea pigs.

--- ---o l afI t h ink,  U buntu wants to  wi nt h e huge W in dows user m asses, s ot hey h ave to 
becom e a bet t e rW indows .
 still_on 11.04
is_because it's the last_version of_Ubuntu_shipped with_GNOME_2, i.e. the_last
decent desktop environment...

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account_taken
Would_like a vote on_how many ran_the_command: `sudo apt-get remove unity-
lens-shopping`

Within my circle, it was the first thing we googled_for._I like_Ubuntu.
Canonical's_best_best is to go the_way of Wikipedia and plead_for pledges_or
seek out crowdfunding. They also have an opportunity_to_take some share_of the
desktop market away from Windows 8 but adding_in features like this hurts them
more_than it helps.

------
habosa
This_reminds_me_of the evolutions of_Mac OS X from Snow Leopard_to Lion, and I
think it's absolutely_ridiculous.

Social networks, shopping, etc. are all features_that should NEVER be part of
the_core of the computer operating_system. These_are things that should be
opt-in_experiences to the_user and_are unwanted bloat_for many.

The only reason Canonical, in_my book, can_get away with this and Apple_can't
is_that Ubuntu is_provided_free_of charge_so there must_be_some sort_of
revenue_stream, whereas OS X already costs_me_money and therefore I shouldn't
have to put_up with anything I_don't_want.

------
mseepgood
Ubuntu is becoming more_and more a cheap advertising_billboard. No longer my
Linux. Can't recommend_it anymore_in good_conscience.

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ishbits
I'm not a fan of this at all.

I wonder if there_is a market for something like_a CentOS/RHEL base system
(think_slow moving_core_system) with a_faster_pace of_release for the desktop
applications for a small_fee.

I kinda_get this on my laptop using_CentOS plus some carefully_chosen
additional_repos..

------
donniezazen
Ubuntu will eventually become Windows where_first thing you do after
installation is_to remove these bunch of_services_and_applications. Canonical
knows their online search_would be a failure if it_came as a_separate
software. Hence, Canonical is using its loyal_customers_as guinea pigs.

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olaf
I think, Ubuntu wants_to_win the huge Windows user masses,_so_they_have to
become a better Windows.