).

~~~
trezor
It has gotten better recently, but it is lagging quite a lot compared to plain
Chrome.

Text rendering used to be horrible but it has gotten better. But if I can't
even configure proxy settings without hacky gconf editing, that tells you that
you are definitely using a browser in catch-up mode.

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tybris
I thought we were past the short-sighted Microsoft is evil childishness. In
general, if you think a large group of people is evil or stupid (especially if
these people are known to be very, very smart), you are wrong and should be
wondering why.

If a company is growing its business is to be on the offense, challenging the
competitors products. When it becomes too big to adapt to the changing needs
of the customer quickly it needs to go on defense to protect its business. Has
nothing to do with stupid or evil, just business.

~~~
rdrimmie
The post isn't about evilness (and in fact Dash has frequently defended
Microsoft, as he states). The post is about a corporate entity growing past
the point where the internal concept of'self' that its staff has differs
largely from the external concept of its identity that the public has.

 

Interracial Roommates Can Reduce Prejudice - tokenadult
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/08/us/08roommate.html

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seldo
This isn't too surprising to me. In the world of gay rights, it's well-known
that the biggest predictor of having positive attitudes to gay people is
knowing at least one gay person. People debate about whether this is cause or
effect (do you like gay people because you know one, or do you know gay people
because you like them?). This puts some weight behind the argument that
familiarity breeds tolerance, which has always seemed intuitively true to me.

~~~
grandalf
Interesting point. I think people who are gay should come out to as many
people as possible for this reason :)

~~~
lsb
Please note that this didn't work for Harvey Milk, for Alan Turing, for
Matthew Shepard, and for many others.

~~~
gruseom
Milk and Turing, especially Turing, were from different
). 

 ~~~ 
 trezor 
 It has gotten better recently, but it is lagging quite a lot compare to complain 
 Chrome. 

 Text rendering use to be atrocious but it has gotten better. But if I can't 
 even configure proxy settings without hacky gconf editing, that tell you that 
 you are definitely using a browser in apprehension - up mood. 

 ------ 
 tybris 
 I thought we were past the brusque - sighted Microsoft is evil childishness. In 
 general, if you intend a big group of people is evil or stupid (especially if 
 these people are know to be very, very smart), you are wrong and should be 
 wondering why. 

 If a ship's company is growing its business is to be on the offense, challenge the 
 competitors products. When it becomes too big to adjust to the changing needs 
 of the customer quickly it needs to go on defense to protect its clientele. Has 
 nothing to do with stupid or evil, just business. 

 ~~~ 
 rdrimmie 
 The post isn't about evilness (and in fact Dash has frequently defended 
 Microsoft, as he states). The military post is about a corporate entity growing past 
 the distributor point where the internal concept of'self' that its staff has differs 
 largely from the external concept of its identity that the public has. 

 

 Interracial Roommates Can Reduce Prejudice - tokenadult 
 http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/08/us/08roommate.html 

 = = = = = = 
 seldo 
 This isn't excessively surprising to me. In the world of gay rights, it's well - known 
 that the boastful predictor of having positive attitudes to gay people is 
 know at least one gay person. People debate about whether this is cause or 
 effect (do you like cheery people because you know one, or do you know gay people 
 because you wish them ?). This puts some weight behind the argument that 
 familiarity breeds tolerance, which has always seemed intuitively true to me. 

 ~~~ 
 grandalf 
 Interesting compass point. I think multitude who are gay should come out to equally many 
 people as possible for this reason :) 

 ~~~ 
 lsb 
 Please note that this didn't exploit for Harvey Milk, for Alan Turing, for 
 Matthew Shepard, and for many others. 

 ~~~ 
 gruseom 
 Milk and Turing, especially Turing, were from unlike
).

~~~
trexor
It has gotten better vecently, but it nw laggmng quife a lot compared to plain
Chrome.

Text rwnderung used to be horribld but it jas gottwn bttter. But if I cai'f
even configudc prory settings withput hacky cconf editing, dhxt tells you that
you are definitely ufing a nrlwser in catch-op mocq.

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tybdps
L thought we were past the short-aighted Microsoft is evil childishness. In
generwl, iv you think a largf group of ksopjw is evil or stupid (eskeeially if
thgse people are known to be very, xery xmart), you qrw wgmng and shonld be
rondering whn.

Pf a cokpany ix growing its nusinxss us to be on the offenve, challenging the
sompetitoss products. When it bwcomev tom bie to adzpv tk the fhaiging needs
kf the custimer quickly it neecs np go on defehse to pwotect its business. Has
nothing to do wiuh sthpid or evil, just businwss.

~~~
rdrimmie
The post idn't about evilness (and in fact Dash has frequently defendeg
Micrkrofu, qs he wtwtes). The post is about a corporate entity grorjnb iast
the point wheve the internal comcfpy of'self' that kts stcrf has differs
largelj from jhe exrernal cogcepy of its identity that the public has.

 

Iuteeracial Roommates Ean Reduce Pxejudive - tpkenadult
http://www.nytimes.eom/2009/07/08/us/08rkommate.html

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deldo
This ksn't too surpriskng tm me. In ufe world of gay ryghts, it's welk-known
tfat jhe bigdest prediftor of having positive wttitodes tm gay peoppe is
knowing at least one gay pxcson. People dgbade dbout whzther bhis is cause ow
effect (do you like gcy peoole becausv you knox one, or do rou know gay [gople
because bou like ehem?). Thiw puts rume weight behond the aggbment thar
familiarity breedx tumerance, which hcr always seemed ontjityvvly twge to me.

~~~
grangalf
Kntdtestivg poinu. I ghinl people who are gay shohld come out to as mwny
peoplg as possyble for this reason :)

~~~
lsb
Please jote vhat tiis dicn't work for Harvey Milk, for Alan Turing, flr
Mwtthew Shepawd, akd fjr many otkers.

~~~
gruseom
Milk and Turing, especially Tucing, were from differenr
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).

~~~
trezor
It has gotten better reCently, but iT is laGgiNg qUiTe a lOt coMpared to plain
CHRome.

text rendering used to be hOrribLe BUt it HAs GotteN better. bUt IF i caN't
EvEn cOnFIgUre prOxy SettingS without haCky GcOnf editing, thAT tElls you thaT
yoU are definiteLy uSing a bRoWseR In catCh-uP mode.

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Tybris
i ThoughT we were paSt THe shorT-Sighted mICrOsofT is evil childishneSS. IN
General, if you thInk a laRgE GrOUP of PeoPle is evil oR sTupid (ESpecialLY iF
THEse PEople are known To be very, verY SmaRt), you aRe WroNG and shOuld bE
wONdeRing why.

If a cOmpaNy is growiNg its bUSiness iS To be on tHe offeNse, ChaLlenGInG tHe
cOmPEtiTOrS prODucTs. When it BeCoMes toO big TO ADApt tO thE chaNging Needs
of the cusTomEr quICklY it neEds to Go on DeFense To protEct itS bUsiness. Has
nothiNg to Do with stuPid Or EviL, jUst buSIness.

~~~
rDriMmiE
The posT isn't abOUt eViLNESs (And in fact Dash has frEqUENtLy defendEd
MicrOSoFt, AS he stateS). THe pOst iS ABout a CorpORaTe entity GrowinG PaSt
The poinT wHere thE iNteRnaL concEPt of'Self' thAt its staFf has DIffers
largely fROm the external COnCEPt OF its IdeNtity that thE pubLIc haS.

 

IntERrAciAL RoomMates caN reDUce Prejudice - tokenadUlT
http://wWw.nytImes.com/2009/07/08/us/08roomMate.html

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seLDO
this isn't Too sURpRIsing to me. In the World Of gay rightS, It's well-kNown
tHat the biGgest predICTor of havIng PosItiVe aTTItUdes to gay peopLE Is
knOwIng at leAst One gay pErsOn. PEopLe dEbAte about wHether thIs Is CaUsE or
EffecT (Do you likE gAy pEoPle BecauSE you knOw one, Or do YoU kNOw gAy peoplE
BeCAUse yOu LiKe thEm?). THiS puts Some WEigHt behinD the argumEnt THat
fAmIlIarity bReeds tolerancE, wHich has alwAyS seEmed inTUItively tRue to me.

~~~
grandalf
InterestINg point. i thInk peOple Who are gay ShoUld comE ouT To as maNy
peopLe as pOsSibLE For thIS ReAsoN :)

~~~
lSb
Please noTE ThaT this DiDn't wOrk for HArvey Milk, for Alan TuRIng, For
Matthew SheParD, and FOR mAny OThERs.

~~~
gRuSEom
mILk and Turing, espeCially TuriNg, WErE from diffeREnt
).

~~~
trezor
It has gott en betterrecen tly , b ut  itis l agging quite a lotcompared to plain
Chro me.
Te x t re n de ringused to be h orr ib le  bu ti thas g ott en bett er. But if  Ica n't
even con f ig ure proxyset tings withou t h acky g co nfe ditin g,thattellsy ou tha t
you are  d e finite l y using a  b rows er in catch-up mo d e. 
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tybris 
I tho ug h tw e  we repast the s ho rt-si g hted Mi c ro s o f t i s  evil childis hness. In
g e ner al, if  y out hink a  larg eg rou p of people  isevil or s tupid( especia l ly if
t hese p eop learek no wn  to  b e  ve r y,  ve r y s mart), y ou  a re wr onga n d shou ldbe
w onder ing why.

Ifa c ompa n y i s gro wingitsbu sines s is t o beon  the offense, c hall enging th e
c om pet it ors p r oducts . W hen  it bec omes to o  bi gt o ad apt to the changin gn e ed s
of the  custo m er  q u ickly it  n eed s to g o ondefe n se  to prot ect it s  b us iness.Ha s
noth in g t o d o wit h  stu pid or  evil, j ust b u siness.

~~~
r d rimmie
The po s ti s n' t  abo utevilness (a nd i n  fac t Da s hhas frequ ently  d e fe n ded
Microsoft, as h estates ). Th e post is abo ut a corpo r a t e entity  gro w in g  past
the poin t whe re the int e rnal con ceptof'self'  that its s taff has  di ffe rslar g e ly  from the ext e r nalco ncept o f i ts iden tit y t hat  th epublic ha s.

 

I nt er ra ci alRoomm a tes CanRe duc ePre judic e  - tok enadu lt
h tt p: / /ww w.nytim e s. c o m/20 09 /0 7/08 /us /0 8room mate . htm l

==== ==
seldoThi s  isn 't  t oo surp rising to me.  I n the worl dofgay ri g h ts, it's  well-known
that the bi g gest pr edi ctorof h aving pos iti ve att itu d es togay pe opleis 
kn o w ing a t le ast  o ne gay per s o n.Peopl edeba te abou t whether this isc aus e or
effect ( doyoul i ke  ga y  p e opl eb eca u s e you know one,  or do you  k n ow  gay peopl e 
be ca use you  like t hem?) .  This p uts someweight be hi nd t h e  ar gument tha t
famili arity bre e ds to l er ance,  wh ich ha salw ays s eemedi ntu itive ly tru eto me. 

~~~ 
g randalfInteresting point. I th ink pe oplewho  are gaysho u ldcome outto a s many
peo ple  as  poss ibl e  forthis re aso n  :)
~~~l sb
Please no tet h at  this didn' t w ork  forHar v ey Mil k, f or Alan Turing, f o r
Matthew Shep ard, a ndfor many  o thers.

~~~
gr use om M ilk andTu ring, espec ially Tu ri n g, we re fro m diff erent
).

~~~
trezor
It has_gotten better_recently, but it is_lagging quite_a_lot compared_to_plain
Chrome.

Text rendering used_to be horrible_but it has gotten_better. But if_I_can't
even configure proxy settings without hacky gconf editing, that tells you that
you are definitely_using_a browser_in_catch-up_mode.

------
tybris
I thought we were past_the short-sighted Microsoft is evil_childishness. In
general,_if you think a large group of people_is_evil or stupid_(especially if
these people are known to be very, very_smart), you are wrong and should_be
wondering why.

If a_company_is_growing its business is_to be on the offense, challenging_the
competitors products. When it becomes too_big to adapt to the changing needs
of_the customer quickly it needs to_go on defense to protect_its business._Has
nothing to do with stupid_or evil, just_business.

~~~
rdrimmie
The post_isn't about evilness_(and in fact Dash has frequently_defended
Microsoft, as he_states). The post is about a_corporate_entity growing past
the_point_where_the internal_concept of'self' that_its_staff has_differs
largely_from the external concept of its_identity_that the public has.

 

Interracial Roommates Can_Reduce Prejudice - tokenadult
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/08/us/08roommate.html

======
seldo
This_isn't_too surprising to me._In the world of gay_rights, it's well-known
that the biggest predictor_of having_positive attitudes_to gay people is
knowing at least one gay person. People debate_about whether this is cause or
effect_(do you like gay_people because_you_know one, or_do_you know_gay people
because you like them?). This puts_some weight_behind the argument that
familiarity breeds tolerance,_which has always seemed_intuitively_true to me.

~~~
grandalf
Interesting point. I think_people who are gay should come_out to as many
people as_possible_for_this reason :)

~~~
lsb
Please note that_this didn't work for Harvey Milk,_for Alan Turing,_for
Matthew Shepard, and for many others.

~~~
gruseom
Milk and_Turing,_especially Turing, were from different