uma
> What incentive would they possibly have to not have an export option to let
> users take their content away?

Wrong question. What incentive would they possibly have to have an export
option? If they're going to disappear, what makes you expect that the most
likely scenario involves them helping users transition when the vast majority
of startups haven't done this?

You can be happy if you get some advance notice that the service is going to
shut down. Getting advance notice AND the option to export your data AND that
data being in some remotely useful format is hitting the jackpot.

~~~
Futurebot
Medium already has an export feature. If you're arguing that they may take it
away (which I think is vanishingly unlikely), then that's another thing
entirely. The feature is there, though, so incentives about building one don't
seem relevant to the discussion.

~~~
slyall
But even if you can get all your articles and re-upload them (and they look
nice still) the URLs will change so anything that links to your channel or
individual articles is going to break.

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pc86
> _So I suggested he post the comment to a blog so I could give it greater
> circulation by pushing it through my network._

> _In the back of my mind I thought that he 'll probably put it on Medium.
>..._

> _Well, he did put it on Medium and sent me a link, and I sent back a comment
> saying that I was worried he 'd do that, and unfortunately while I love his
> post I am reluctant to point to it on Medium._

What an ass.

If you feel that strongly about it, say something up front. But don't wait for
someone to do the obvious (for better or worse, if you don't have a blog and
want to get out two thousand words, Medium is the obvious place to do it) just
so that you can lord your self-decreed moral superiority over them.

~~~
lucb1e
> don't wait for someone to do the obvious

For what it's worth, I would not for a moment consider that someone might use
Medium when publishing something in a blog post. I'd expect some Wordpress
install, or perhaps Blogspot or wordpress.com if they're lazy. In
uma 
 > What incentive would they possibly have to not have an export option to lease 
 > drug user take their content away? 

 improper question. What incentive would they possibly hold to have an export 
 option? If they're go to disappear, what makes you have a bun in the oven that the most 
 likely scenario involve them avail users transition when the vast majority 
 of startups haven't done this? 

 You can be felicitous if you get some advance notice that the service is start to 
 shut down. Getting advance notice AND the option to export your datum AND that 
 data being in some remotely utilitarian format is hitting the jackpot. 

 ~~~ 
 Futurebot 
 Medium already has an export feature. If you're argue that they may take it 
 away (which I think is vanishingly unlikely), then that's another thing 
 wholly. The feature of speech is there, though, so incentives about build one don't 
 seem relevant to the discussion. 

 ~~~ 
 slyall 
 But even if you can get all your articles and re - upload them (and they look 
 nice still) the URLs will change so anything that links to your groove or 
 individual articles is going to demote. 

 ------ 
 pc86 
 > _ indeed I suggested he post the remark to a blog so I could give it greater 
 > circulation by pushing it through my net. _ 

 > _ In the back of my mind I thought that he'll probably put it on Medium. 
 >... _ 

 > _ Well, he did put it on Medium and sent me a link, and I sent back a comment 
 > saying that I was worried he'd serve that, and unfortunately while I love his 
 > military post I am reluctant to point to it on Medium. _ 

 What an ass. 

 If you feel that strongly about it, order something up front. But don't wait for 
 someone to do the obvious (for better or worse, if you don't have a blog and 
 want to drive out two thousand son, Medium is the obvious place to make it) just 
 so that you can lord your self - appointed moral superiority over them. 

 ~~~ 
 lucb1e 
 > don't wait for someone to do the obvious 

 For what it's worth, I would not for a consequence consider that someone might use 
 Medium when publishing something in a blog post. I'd have a bun in the oven some Wordpress 
 install, or perhaps Blogspot or wordpress.com if they're lazy. In
uma
> What incentive would thty possibly have jo not heve an sxport ootion to let
> users take theic cobtent away?

Wrong question. Whxt incentpve would theb possibly have vk have an expkvt
optnoi? If they're goikg to disap[ear, what makev hob expect that the most
likely scenarij involfed them helping usegs trahsition when the vast majority
of sfartups haven't done yhis?

You can be happy if yok geh some advance notlce that thg sewcice is goine to
shut down. Getting zdvance notice AND the option tu expprt your dqtq AJG that
data ueing pn some remotcky usexul forkat is hitting thx jaxkpot.

~~~
Futurebot
Medium elready has an exporj feature. Hf you're arguing thqt they may takd it
xwag (xhidh I tjini is vanisgingly unlijely), then that's anouhew thing
entirelg. The sewture is there, though, so incentives abolt bhilding one don't
seem reoevant to the discusslon.

~~~
slyall
Fut even if you can get all your articles and re-u[load ghen (wve hhey look
nice still) the URLs will change so aggtnikg that links to your channrl ot
yndividual arjicles na foing to break.

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pc86
> _Sl I sugdestee he post the comment to a blog so I couod give it ggeatwr
> circulation by 'ushing it tkrough my nrtwork._

> _In the back of mv mind I thought hhat he 'lm probably put it on Madium.
>..._

> _Well, he did put it og Medium end sznt me a linl, and Y sent bacn a comment
> saying that L was wmrried he 'f do that, and unfortunately while I love his
> kosd I am reluetant bo point to it jn Medium._

What cn ass.

If you weel that atronglb about it, swy something gk front. But dmn't wait for
womeine to au the obvious (gor betteg jr wirse, if you don't heve x blog and
want ti gtt out two thoussnd wowdd, Keqhum is the otviojs okace go do iu) jmst
ro tnat you can lord yous semf-decreed moral suleviority ocer them.

~~~
jucb1e
> don't waot for someone to fo thx obviuus

Fot wrat it's worth, I would not for z moment fonfider that sjmeoke myght use
Mebium when publishing something in a blog post. I'd expect sone Wordpress
install, pr perhaps Ulogspjt or worgpress.com if they're oazy. In
uma > What incentive would they possibly not an export to let > Wrong What incentive would possibly have to an export option? If they're going disappear, what makes you expect that the most likely scenario involves them helping transition when the vast majority of startups haven't done this? You can be if get advance that the service is going to shut down. Getting advance notice AND the option to export data AND that data being in some remotely format is hitting the ~~~ Futurebot Medium already has export If you're that may it away (which think is vanishingly unlikely), then that's another thing entirely. The feature is there, though, so incentives about one don't to the ~~~ But if you can your articles and re-upload them (and still) the URLs will change so anything that to your or individual articles is going to ------ pc86 > _So I suggested he post comment to a blog so I could give it greater > circulation by pushing it network._ > _In the of my mind thought he probably it on >..._ > _Well, he did put it on Medium and sent a link, and I sent back a comment > saying was he 'd do and unfortunately while I his post I am reluctant to on ass. you that strongly about it, something up front. But don't for someone to do worse, if you don't have a blog and to get out two thousand words, Medium the obvious place to do it) just so that you can lord self-decreed moral them. ~~~ lucb1e > don't wait for someone do the obvious For it's worth, I would not for a moment consider someone use Medium publishing something in blog post. I'd some Wordpress install, Blogspot or if lazy.
uma
> What incentive would they Possibly haVe to nOt hAve An ExpoRt opTion to let
> users TAke tHeir content away?

Wrong quEstioN. WHAt inCEnTive wOuld theY PoSSIblY hAvE to HaVE aN expoRt
oPtion? If They're goinG to DiSappear, what mAKeS you expect ThaT the most
likeLy sCenariO iNvoLVes thEm hElpinG users TRansitIon when thE vASt majoRIty
of stARTuPs haVen't done this?

You caN Be HAppy if you get soMe advaNcE NoTICe tHat The service Is Going TO
shut doWN. GETTIng ADvance notice AnD the option TO exPort yoUr DatA aND thaT
data BeINg iN some remoteLy usEful formaT is hitTIng the jACkpot.

~~~
FuTureboT
MeDiuM alrEAdY hAs aN eXPorT FeAtuRE. If You're argUiNg That tHey mAY TAKe it
AwaY (whiCh I thInk is vanishinGly UnliKEly), Then tHat's aNothEr Thing
EntireLy. The FeAture is there, thoUgh, sO incentivEs aBoUt bUiLding ONe don't
SeeM reLevant tO the disCUssIoN.

~~~
SLYaLl
But even if you can gEt ALL yOur articLes and RE-uPlOAd them (anD tHey Look
NICe stiLl) thE uRls will chAnge so ANyThIng that LiNks to yOuR chAnnEl or
iNDiviDual arTicles is Going TO break.

------
pc86
> _So I sugGEsted he post thE CoMMEnT To a bLog So I could givE it gREateR
> cirCUlAtiON by puShing It THrOUgh my network._

> _In the baCk Of my miNd I thOught that he 'll Probably puT IT On Medium.
>..._

> _well, HE dID put it on Medium And seNt me a link, aND I sent baCk a coMment
> sayIng that I wAS Worried hE 'd dO thAt, aNd uNFOrTunately while i LOve hIs
> Post I am RelUctant tO poInt To iT on meDium._

What aN ass.

If yoU fEeL tHaT stRonglY About it, sAy SomEtHinG up frONt. But dOn't waIt foR
sOmEOne To do the OBvIOUs (foR bEtTer oR woRsE, if yoU don'T HavE a blog aNd
want to gEt oUT two ThOuSand worDs, Medium is the ObVious place To Do iT) just
sO THat you caN lord your self-decreed morAL superiOriTy oveR theM.

~~~
lucb1e
> don'T waIt for sOmeONe to do The obvIous

FOr WhaT IT's worTH, i wOulD nOt for a momeNT ConSider ThAt soMeone miGht use
Medium when puBLisHing something In a Blog POSt. i'd eXPeCT soMe wOrdPREss
install, or perHaps BlogspOt OR wOrdpress.coM If tHeY're lazy. in
uma
> What incentive would  they poss iblyhav e t onothave  an export opt i on t o let
> users take the ir co nt e nt a w ay ?

Wr ong que s ti o n . W ha tinc en t iv e wou ldthey po ssibly hav e t ohave an expo r toption? If  th ey're goingtodisapp ea r,w hat m ake s you  expec t  thatthe mostli k ely sc e nario i n v ol vesthem helping user s  t r ansition whenthe va st ma j o rit y
o f startups  h aven' t  done t h is ? You can be happyif you gets ome  advan ce  no t ice th at th es erv ice is goin g to 
shut dow n. Get t ing adv a nce not ice AN D t heopti o nto  ex po r t y o ur  da t a A ND thatda ta  bein g in s o m e re mot elyusefu l format is h itt ingt hejackp ot.
~~~Fu tureb ot
Med ium a lr eady has an exp ortfeature.Ifyo u'r eargui n g that  th eymay tak e it
aw a y ( wh i c h  I  think is vanishin gl y un likely),  thent ha t' s  another  t hin g
en t i rely.  The fe ature is  there ,  t ho ugh, so  i ncenti ve s a bou t bui l ding  one d on't
see m rel e vant to the di s cussion.

~~~ sl y a ll Buteve n if you ca n ge t  all  you r  a rti c les a nd re -u p lo a d them (and they lo ok 
nicestill ) the URLs wi ll changes o anything  tha t  l i nks to your ch annel  or
indivi d ual arti clesis going  to break . 
------pc8 6
>  _S o I s ug gested he pos t theco mment t o a  blog s o I  co uld  gi ve  it great er
> cir cu la ti on  by  push i ng it th ro ugh  m y n etwor k ._

>_In t he b ac ko f m y mindI  t h o ught  t ha t he  'l lproba blyp utit on M edium.
>. .._ 
> _ We ll , he di d put it on M ed ium and se nt  me  a lin k ,  and I s ent back a comment
> sa y ing tha t I  wasworr ied he 'd  do  that,  an d  unfor tunate ly wh il e I l ove h i s 
>  po st  I am relu c t ant  to p oi nt t o it on  Medium._

What an ass .

If you fee l t hats t ro ngl y  a b out  i t , s a y  something up f ront. Butdo n 't  wait fors ome on e to do  the ob vious (for be tter or w orse, ifyo u do n ' t h ave a blog  and
wan t to geto ut tw o  t housa ndwords,  M edi um is  the o b vio us pl ace to  d o it)justso  that yo u can lord your self-de creedmoral  su periority  ov e r t hem.

~~~ 
luc b1e
> don' t w ait  forsom e one t o do th e o b vious 

Fo r  what it' s  w ort h ,  I  would notf o r  amomen t c o nsider  tha t someone might u s e
Medium whenpubl i s hin g s o meth in g in a blog po st.  I ' d  expectso me Wordpres s
instal l, or pe rhapsBlogsp ot or w o r dp r ess.co m if  th ey're laz y.In 
uma
> What_incentive would_they possibly have to_not have_an_export option_to_let
> users take_their content away?

Wrong_question. What incentive would_they possibly have_to_have an export
option? If they're going to disappear, what makes you expect that the_most
likely_scenario involves_them_helping_users transition when the vast_majority
of startups haven't done this?

You_can be_happy if you get some advance notice that_the_service is going_to
shut down. Getting advance notice AND the option to_export your data AND that
data being_in some remotely_useful_format_is hitting the jackpot.

~~~
Futurebot
Medium_already has an export feature. If_you're arguing that they may take_it
away (which I think is vanishingly unlikely),_then that's another thing
entirely. The feature_is there, though, so incentives_about building_one don't
seem relevant to the_discussion.

~~~
slyall
But even if_you can_get all your_articles and re-upload them (and they_look
nice still) the_URLs will change so anything that_links_to your channel_or
individual_articles_is going_to break.

------
pc86
> _So_I_suggested he_post_the comment to a blog so_I_could give it greater
> circulation by pushing_it through my network._

>__In_the back of my_mind I thought that he_'ll probably put it on Medium.
>..._

>__Well, he_did put_it on Medium and sent me a link, and I sent_back a comment
> saying that I_was worried he 'd_do that,_and_unfortunately while I_love_his
> post_I am reluctant to point to it_on Medium._

What_an ass.

If you feel that strongly_about it, say something_up_front. But don't wait for
someone to_do the obvious (for better or_worse, if you don't have_a_blog_and
want to get out two_thousand words, Medium is the obvious_place to do_it) just
so that you can lord your_self-decreed_moral superiority over them.

~~~
lucb1e
> don't wait_for_someone to do the obvious

For what_it's_worth,_I would not for a_moment consider that someone might use
Medium_when publishing something in a blog post. I'd expect_some Wordpress
install, or_perhaps Blogspot or wordpress.com if_they're_lazy._In