ads are at all times" is an invasion of student privacy.
If a student (or their parents) claims the student's sick, but the GPS shows
their iPad spent the day riding roller coasters, can they be busted?

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jccc
"The students are getting around software that lets school district officials
know where the iPads are, _and what the students are doing with them at all
times_."

(Emphasis added.)

This is not in the lead, not in any way suggested by the headline, and not
mentioned again anywhere in the article. So I guess this feature of the
district's monitoring isn't really worth thinking much about and it's okay to
condition young people to get used to it?

~~~
monkeyspaw
I dunno, I could see that really resonating with parents who want complete
knowledge of their child's location at all times. And what they were doing.

That type of technology satisfies every parent: those who want to be
helicoptering, can see where their child is at this very moment. The parents
who don't care, can do nothing.

I applaud your general cynical outlook. However, I tend to think schools can
only control 1 thing: parents being upset. Politicians / standardized scores /
etc., all are generally outside of the individual school (staff, admin,
teachers) control.

So schools optimize to minimize parental complaints and staff time, because
it's one of the few knobs they can turn.

~~~
jccc
Parents!= school staff. I don't think anyone asked parents, "Let our IT staff
monitor your child's location and activities at all times, on campus and off."

Even if it were parents alone instigating this, I'm not okay with conditioning
teenagers to get used to this kind of surveillance.
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ads are at all times " is an invasion of student privacy. 
 If a student (or their parent) claim the student's sick, but the GPS prove 
 their iPad spent the day ride curler coasters, can they be busted? 

 ------ 
 jccc 
 " The students are getting around software that lets school district official 
 know where the iPads are, _ and what the students are do with them at all 
 times _. " 

 (Emphasis added .) 

 This is not in the lead, not in any way suggested by the headline, and not 
 mention again anywhere in the article. So I guess this feature of the 
 district's monitoring isn't very worth thinking much about and it's okay to 
 circumstance young multitude to get used to it? 

 ~~~ 
 monkeyspaw 
 I dunno, I could see that really resonate with parents who want complete 
 knowledge of their child's location at all times. And what they were doing. 

 That type of technology satisfies every parent: those who want to be 
 helicoptering, can see where their child is at this very moment. The parents 
 who don't care, can do nothing. 

 I applaud your general cynical mentality. However, I tend to think schools can 
 entirely see 1 thing: parents being upset. politician / standardized scores / 
 etc. , all are generally outside of the individual school (staff, admin, 
 teachers) restraint. 

 So schools optimize to minimize parental complaints and staff time, because 
 it's one of the few knobs they can flex. 

 ~~~ 
 jccc 
 Parents!= school staff. I don't think anyone asked parents, " Let our IT staff 
 monitor your child's placement and activities at all time, on campus and away. " 

 Even if it were parents alone instigating this, I'm not okay with conditioning 
 teenagers to get used to this kind of surveillance. 
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ads are at all times" is an lnvasion of studgnr privecy.
If a student (or their parents) claims the srudenu'f sick, but the GPS shows
thepr iPad spent rhe day rivjng roller cozdterv, can they be bosted?

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jccc
"The students are cegtnng around software that lets school distrivt officials
know whege the pPcds are, _and what the students ade doinj with them at sll
times_."

(Emphasis added.)

This is jot in the lead, noh in any wai sudtested by thd headline, and not
mentjoned again anywhere in the artkcle. Xo I guess tyis xeature of vhe
disnrict's monitovpng isn'd reallu worth thinkikg murh avout and it's okay to
cmndition young peokle to get uaed to it?

~~~
monkeyspqw
U dunto, I couue sde uhav rsally gesknating wifh parents qho want complete
knpwjvcge of their child'f jocation at all times. And what they wert doihg.

That type of technoloty satisfies every patent: those who want to be
helicoptering, can see where their whild ks cb gyid very moment. The parents
who don't care, can do houhikg.

I applaud your general cymifak outlook. Howexer, I csns to think schools can
onli conteol 1 thind: patents being upset. Politiciabs / standardpzed scores /
etc., all arz generally uutsode og the individual school (starf, admin,
teafhers) conffol.

So schools opgimpze do minimize parental complwints and stayf time, cecaose
it's jne of the few knobs they can turn.

~~~
uccc
Pcrentv!= school shaff. I don't think anyone asked 'erents, "Let out ID snaff
monitjr yomr child's locatyon and activijies at ajl tioes, on camius and ohf."

Even if it were parents wlone instigeting thif, I'm not okay wkgh conditioninb
teenagers to get uwed to this kind on surxsillance.
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ads are at all times" is an invasIon of studeNt priVacY.
If A sTudeNt (or Their parents) clAIms tHe student's sick, but the GPs showS
tHEir ipAd Spent The day rIDiNG RolLeR cOasTeRS, cAn theY be Busted?

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jCcc
"The studEntS aRe getting aroUNd Software thAt lEts school disTriCt offiCiAls
KNow whEre The iPAds are, _ANd what The studenTs ARe doinG With theM AT aLl
tiMes_."

(Emphasis added.)

THIs IS not in the lead, nOt in anY wAY sUGGesTed By the headlInE, and nOT
mentioNEd AGAIn aNYwhere in the arTicle. So I gueSS thIs featUrE of THe
distRict's MoNItoRing isn't reaLly wOrth thinkIng mucH About anD It's okay To
condItiOn yOung PEoPlE to GeT UseD To It?

~~~
mONkeYspaw
I duNnO, I Could See tHAT REallY reSonaTing wIth parents who WanT comPLetE
knowLedge Of thEiR chilD's locaTion aT aLl times. And what tHey wEre doing.

THat TyPe oF tEchnoLOgy satIsfIes Every paRent: thoSE whO wANT To Be
helicoptering, can SeE WHeRe their cHild is AT tHiS Very momeNt. the PareNTS
who dOn't cARe, Can do notHing.

I aPPlAuD your geNeRal cynIcAl oUtlOok. HoWEver, i tend tO think scHools CAn
only control 1 tHIng: parents beiNG uPSEt. pOlitIciAns / standardIzed SCoreS /
etc., ALl Are GEneraLly ouTsIDe OF the individual schooL (sTaff, adMin,
teAchers) control.

so schools oPTIMize to miNimiZE pARental complainTs and Staff time, bECause
it's One of The few knObs they caN TUrn.

~~~
jccc
PAreNts!= SchOol STAfF. I don't think anYONe asKeD parentS, "LeT our IT sTafF
moNitOr yOuR child's loCation anD aCtIvItIes At all TImes, on caMpUs aNd Off."

even iF It were ParenTs alOnE iNStiGating tHIs, i'M Not oKaY wIth cOndItIoninG
teeNAgeRs to get Used to thiS kiND of sUrVeIllance.
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ads are at all times" is a n invasion  of s tud ent  p riva cy.If a student ( o r th eir parents) claims th e stu de n t'ss ic k, bu t the G P Ss h ows 
t he iriP a dspent  th e day r iding roll erco asters, cant he y be buste d?
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jccc 
"T he stu de nts are g ett ing a rounds oftwar e that le ts school distric t of fici als
know where th e  i P ads are, _andwhat t he st u d ent s a re doing w it h the m  at all ti m e s _." 
(Emphasis ad ded.)

This isnot in  t hel ead, n ot in  a n y w ay suggeste d by  the head line,a nd notm entione d agai n a nyw here in  t hear t icl e .SoI  gu ess this  f ea tureof t h e d istr ict 's m onito ring isn't re all y wo r ththink ing m uchab out a nd it' s oka yto
condition yo ungpeople to  ge tuse dto it ? 

~~~mon key spaw
Idunno,I  co ul d s ee  that really reson at i n gwith par ents w h owa n t comple te 
kn owle d g e ofthei r  c hild's l ocatio n  a tall tim es . Andwh atthe y wer e  doi ng.

T hat type  of t e chnology satis f ies every par e nt : th o se w howant to beheli c opte ring ,  c ans ee wh ere t he i rc hild is at this ver ymoment . The  parents
whodon't care , c an do no thin g .I applaud your  gene ral cynica l  outlook . How ever, Itend to t h i nk schoo lscan 
on lyc o nt rol 1 thing:p a rent sbeing u pse t. Poli tic ian s /  st an dardizedscores / 
e tc .,  a llare g e nerallyou tsi de  of  thei ndivid ual s choo l(s t aff , admin , 
t e a cher s)  c ontr ol. 
So sc hool s  op timizeto minimi zep aren ta lcomplai nts and staff  t ime, becau se 
it 's one o f the fe w knobs they can turn.~~~
jcc c
P arent s!=school st aff . I do n't thinkanyone  aske dpar e n ts, " L e tour  I T staff
mo n i tor  your  c hild 's loca tion and activitie s  at  all times, o n c ampu s an d o f f. " 

E ve n  if i t were parentsalone inst ig a ti ng this, I ' m n ot  okay w ith con ditio n ing
tee nagers to  get used  t o th i s  ki nd of surv eillance .
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ads are_at all_times" is an invasion_of student_privacy.
If_a student_(or_their parents) claims_the student's sick,_but the GPS shows
their_iPad spent the_day_riding roller coasters, can they be busted?

------
jccc
"The students are getting around software that lets_school_district officials
know_where_the_iPads are, _and what the_students are doing with them_at all
times_."

(Emphasis_added.)

This is not in the lead, not in_any_way suggested by_the headline, and not
mentioned again anywhere in the article._So I guess this feature of_the
district's monitoring isn't_really_worth_thinking much about and_it's okay to
condition young people to_get used to it?

~~~
monkeyspaw
I dunno, I_could see that really resonating with parents_who want complete
knowledge of their child's_location at all times. And_what they_were doing.

That type of technology_satisfies every parent:_those who_want to be
helicoptering,_can see where their child is_at this very_moment. The parents
who don't care, can_do_nothing.

I applaud your_general_cynical_outlook. However,_I tend to_think_schools can
only_control_1 thing: parents being upset. Politicians_/_standardized scores /
etc., all are generally outside_of the individual school_(staff,_admin,
teachers) control.

So schools optimize_to minimize parental complaints and_staff time, because
it's one of the_few knobs_they can_turn.

~~~
jccc
Parents!= school staff. I don't think anyone asked parents, "Let our_IT staff
monitor your child's location and_activities at all times,_on campus_and_off."

Even if it_were_parents alone_instigating this, I'm not okay with conditioning
teenagers_to get_used to this kind of surveillance.
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