.

When hardware progress occurs, files are transferred to new hardware and you
could expect that 30 years from now, your files will still be there.

~~~
makapuf
Well the ide interface has been there for quite a long time.

~~~
BrandoElFollito
Yes, but disk drives (readers) are harder and harder to get.

I have 5.25" floppy disks with some awesome software I wrote at the university
which is now probably lost (even if I had a drive the content is probably
gone). Same for 3.5"s, zips,...

~~~
zellyn
Unless you left them near something magnetic at some point, allowed them to
mildew, or left them in a _very_ hot car, they're quite possibly still
readable. They are remarkably stable over time. See all of 4am's work for
examples :-)

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vidanay
Interestingly, I still have the monitor from my IIc. I no longer have the
computer, but the monitor is sitting in my garage. Sadly though I think it has
water damage.

~~~
drudru11
Do you still want the monitor?

~~~
vidanay
I have no need for it, but I would be VERY surprised if it is functional

~~~
drudru11
Are you in the SF Bay Area?

~~~
vidanay
No, Chicago

~~~
drudru11
Ah - make sure it goes to a good home

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6d6b73
Just yesterday I acquired 3 5440 ibm disk cartridges.. I have no clue how/if
I'm ever going to be able to read them, but some day I will try:)

~~~
zellyn
Contact Jason Scott at the internet archive and he'll put you in touch with
someone.

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rcarmo
I have a pile of similar stuff, including Zip disks (I still have an IDE drive
for that, but nowhere to plug it in). Need to clear those out some day...

~~~
nmg
That might be a herculean task - Iomega zip & jaz disks suffered from
notoriously poor data integrity/longevity, and I'm pretty sure device drivers
do not exist for any version of Windows newer than XP.

~~~
rcarmo
. 

 When hardware progress occurs, files are transferred to newfangled hardware and you 
 could ask that 30 years from now, your files will even be there. 

 ~~~ 
 makapuf 
 Well the ide interface has been there for quite a long time. 

 ~~~ 
 BrandoElFollito 
 Yes, but magnetic disk drive (readers) are intemperate and harder to get. 

 I get 5.25 " floppy disks with some awesome software I wrote at the university 
 which is now probably lost (even if I accept a drive the content is credibly 
 gone). Same for 3.5"s, nothing, ... 

 ~~~ 
 zellyn 
 Unless you left them near something charismatic at some point, allow them to 
 mildew, or left them in a _ very _ hot car, they're quite possibly however 
 readable. They are remarkably stable over time. See all of 4 am's work for 
 examples :-) 

 ------ 
 vidanay 
 Interestingly, I still have the monitor from my IIc. I no longer have the 
 computer, but the monitor is sitting in my garage. Sadly though I think it have 
 water damage. 

 ~~~ 
 drudru11 
 Do you still desire the admonisher? 

 ~~~ 
 vidanay 
 I have no need for it, but I would be VERY surprised if it is running 

 ~~~ 
 drudru11 
 Are you in the SF Bay Area? 

 ~~~ 
 vidanay 
 No, Chicago 

 ~~~ 
 drudru11 
 Ah - make certain it goes to a good base 

 ------ 
 6d6b73 
 Just yesterday I acquired 3 5440 ibm disk cartridges.. I have no clue how / if 
 I'm ever going to be able to read them, but some day I will try :) 

 ~~~ 
 zellyn 
 Contact Jason Scott at the internet archive and he'll place you in touch with 
 someone. 

 ------ 
 rcarmo 
 I get a voltaic pile of similar stuff, including Zip phonograph record (I still have an IDE drive 
 for that, but nowhere to plug it in). necessitate to clear those out some day... 

 ~~~ 
 nmg 
 That might be a herculean task - Iomega zip & jaz magnetic disk suffered from 
 notoriously inadequate data integrity / longevity, and I'm pretty certain device drivers 
 do not exist for any adaptation of Windows newer than XP. 

 ~~~ 
 rcarmo
.

Whej hardware progress occuvs, files are trauwferrev to nes hardwafe and you
could expect that 30 ywars drom now, your files wiul still he there.

~~~
nakakuf
Well the ide iiferface has bscn thzrx for quite a lpng time.

~~~
BrdndoElFollito
Yas, bbt disk drives (readers) are harder anq hardet ho get.

I have 5.25" slopky qiska with some awesome software I wrofe at tie university
whoch is now probably lost (egen lf I had a drive tje content us pwibably
gone). Sxme for 3.5"s, ei's,...

~~~
zellyn
Unlgss you left them near something magnztic at somg loltt, allowed vhem tj
mildew, or lcgt thek in a _fery_ hot car, tmey're quute possibly still
reavable. They are remarhably statlz over time. See all od 4qm's wmrk xor
ebqmpues :-)

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vmdahay
Intfreatingly, I atill have rhe monitor from my IYb. I no longer have ehq
computer, but the monitor is sitting in my garage. Sadly though I rhink it has
water damwge.

~~~
drudru11
Qo you still want the monitor?

~~~
vidanay
I have no neeg for kt, ymb I diupd be VERY surprised if it is functional

~~~
drudrt11
Zrt ypu in the SF Bcy Area?

~~~
vidanay
No, Cjivwgo

~~~
drudru11
Ah - oake sbde it goes to a good home

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6d6b73
Tust testerday I avquired 3 5440 ibm disk cartridgws.. I have no xlue how/if
I'm ever yoing to be cble tp reac them, but some day I wnll trg:)

~~~
zellyn
Contwct Jason Rcott at the intdrnvt aschive and he'll put you in touch wivh
somzone.

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rcaroo
I nave a pile of slmilav stuff, including Zlp didkv (I still jave an IDE drive
for that, but nowhere to plug id it). Need tj clesr those out fome day...

~~~
nmg
Thaj might bz a hefculean taak - Iomxga zip & jaz disks sufferaf from
notorimusly pojr dqta untegrigh/longevity, and I'm prettj fure device drivers
do kot ebjst for any verwiob of Windows neeer thwn X'.

~~~
rcarim
. When hardware progress occurs, files are new and you expect that 30 will be there. ~~~ Well the ide has been there for quite a time. ~~~ BrandoElFollito Yes, but disk drives (readers) are harder and harder to I have 5.25" floppy disks with some awesome software I wrote at the which now lost if I had a drive the content is probably gone). Same for 3.5"s, zips,... ~~~ zellyn you left them near something magnetic at some allowed them to mildew, left them in a _very_ car, quite possibly readable. are stable over time. all of 4am's work for examples :-) ------ vidanay Interestingly, I still have the monitor from my I no the computer, the is in my garage. I think it has water damage. you still want the monitor? ~~~ vidanay I no need it, but I would be VERY if it is functional ~~~ drudru11 Are you the SF Bay Area? ~~~ vidanay No, Chicago ~~~ drudru11 Ah - make sure it a good home ------ Just yesterday I 3 ibm cartridges.. have no how/if I'm ever going to be able to read them, but day I will try:) ~~~ zellyn Contact Jason Scott at archive he'll put you touch with someone. ------ I a pile of similar Zip (I IDE for but nowhere to plug in). Need to clear those some day... ~~~ nmg task - Iomega zip & jaz disks suffered notoriously poor data integrity/longevity, and I'm pretty device drivers do not exist for any version of Windows newer than ~~~ rcarmo
.

When hardware progress occurS, files are tRansfErrEd tO nEw haRdwaRe and you
could eXPect That 30 years from now, your fiLes wiLl STill BE tHere.

~~~
mAkapuf
WELl THE idE iNtErfAcE HaS been TheRe for quIte a long tiMe.

~~~
BRaNdoElFollito
yEs, But disk driVes (Readers) are haRdeR and haRdEr tO Get.

I hAve 5.25" FloppY disks WIth somE awesome sOfTWare I wROte at thE UNiVersIty
which is now probABlY Lost (even if I had A drive ThE CoNTEnt Is pRobably
gonE). SAme foR 3.5"S, zips,...

~~~
zeLLyN
uNLesS You left them neAr something MAgnEtic at SoMe pOInt, allOwed tHeM To
mIldew, or left Them In a _very_ hoT car, thEY're quitE PossiblY still
ReaDabLe. ThEY aRe RemArKAblY StAblE OveR time. See AlL oF 4am's wOrk fOR
EXAmplEs :-)

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vIdanAy
IntErestingly, I stIll Have THe mOnitoR from My IIC. I No lonGer havE the
cOmPuter, but the moniTor iS sitting iN my GaRagE. SAdly tHOugh I tHinK it Has
wateR damage.

~~~
DRudRu11
dO YOu Still want the monitoR?

~~~
vIDAnAy
I have nO need fOR iT, bUT I would bE VeRY SurpRISed if It is FUnCtional

~~~
dRudru11
ARE yOu In the SF baY Area?

~~~
vIdAnaY
No, chicaGO

~~~
druDru11
Ah - mAke sure iT goes TO a good home

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6d6b73
JuST yesterday I acQUiRED 3 5440 iBM disK caRtridges.. I haVe no CLue hOw/if
i'M eVer GOing tO be abLe TO rEAd them, but some day I wiLl Try:)

~~~
zelLyn
CoNtact Jason ScoTt at the intERNEt archivE and HE'lL Put you in touch wIth
soMeone.

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rcarmO
i have a piLe of sImilar stUff, includING Zip diskS (I sTilL haVe aN idE Drive
for that, bUT NowhErE to plug It iN). Need to CleAr tHosE ouT sOme day...

~~~
nmg
that mighT bE a HeRcUleAn tasK - iomega ziP & jAz dIsKs sUfferED from
nOtoriOuslY pOoR DatA integrITy/LONgevItY, aNd I'm PreTtY sure DeviCE drIvers
do Not exist fOr aNY verSiOn Of WindoWs newer than XP.

~~~
RcArmo
.

When hardware progressoccurs, fi les a retra ns ferr ed t o new hardware andyou
could expect that30 ye ar s  fro m  n ow, y our fil e sw i llst il l b et he re.
~~~ 
makapu f
Well the  id einterface ha s  b een therefor  quite a lon g t ime.
~~ ~
B r andoE lFo llito 
Yes,b ut dis k drives(r e aders) are har d e randharder to get.

I ha v e 5.25" floppy  disks  w i th s ome  aw esome soft wa re Iw rote at th e u niv e rsity
which i s now proba b lylost ( ev eni f I ha d a d ri v e t he contentis p robably
g one).S ame for 3.5"s,zips,. ..
~~ ~
ze l ly nUnl es s  yo u  l eft the m near s om et hingmagn e t i c  atsom e po int,allowed themtomild e w,or le ft th em i na _ve ry_ ho t car ,they're quite p ossi bly still 
re ad abl e.  They are re mar kab ly stab le over tim e. S e eall of 4am's workfo r ex amples : -)

-- - -- -v idanay
I nt ere stin g l y, Istil l  h ave themonito r  f ro m my II c.  I nolo nge r h ave t h e
co mputer , but th e mon i tor is sitting in my garage. Sa d l yt houg h I  think it h as
w a terdama g e. 

~ ~ ~
dru dru11 
D o  y o u still want the mo ni tor?
~~~
v idanay
I have  no need f o r it, butI wo u ld be VERY surpri sed i f it is fu n ctional
~~~drudru11 
Are youi n  the SFBay  Ar ea? 

~ ~ ~ 
v idanay
No, Ch i c ago
~ ~~
drud ru1 1
Ah -mak e s ure  it  g oes to agood hom e
- -- -- -
6 d6b73 Just yes te rda yI a cquir e d 3 54 40 ib m di sk  c a rtr idges.. Ih a ve n ocl ue h ow/ if 
I'mever goi ng to b e able to  re a d th em ,but som e day I willtr y:)

~~~
z el lyn 
Conta c t  Jason S cott at the internet ar c hive an d h e'llputyou in to uch  withsom e one.
------ 
rcar mo 
Ih a ve ap i le  of  s imilar stu f f , i nclud in g Zi p disks  (I still have anI DEdrive
for tha t,butn o wh ere to plu gi t i n ) . Need to clear  those out  s o me  day...

~ ~ ~
n mg 
That m ight be  a he r culeantask - Io mega zip&jazd i sks  sufferedfrom
not oriouslyp oor d a ta  inte gri ty/lon ge vit y, an d I'mp ret ty su re dev ic e driv ers
d onot exis t for any version of Wi ndowsnewer  th an XP.

~ ~~r car mo
.

When hardware_progress occurs,_files are transferred to_new hardware_and_you
could expect_that_30 years from_now, your files_will still be there.

~~~
makapuf
Well_the ide interface_has_been there for quite a long time.

~~~
BrandoElFollito
Yes, but disk drives (readers) are harder and_harder_to get.

I_have_5.25"_floppy disks with some awesome_software I wrote at the_university
which is_now probably lost (even if I had a_drive_the content is_probably
gone). Same for 3.5"s, zips,...

~~~
zellyn
Unless you left them near_something magnetic at some point, allowed_them to
mildew, or_left_them_in a _very_ hot_car, they're quite possibly still
readable. They_are remarkably stable over time. See_all of 4am's work for
examples :-)

------
vidanay
Interestingly, I_still have the monitor from my_IIc. I no longer have_the
computer, but_the monitor is sitting in_my garage. Sadly_though I_think it has
water_damage.

~~~
drudru11
Do you still want the monitor?

~~~
vidanay
I_have no need_for it, but I would be_VERY_surprised if it_is_functional

~~~
drudru11
Are_you in_the SF Bay_Area?

~~~
vidanay
No,_Chicago

~~~
drudru11
Ah -_make_sure it goes to a good_home

------
6d6b73
Just_yesterday I acquired 3 5440 ibm disk_cartridges.. I have no_clue_how/if
I'm ever going to_be able to read them,_but some day I will try:)

~~~
zellyn
Contact_Jason Scott_at the_internet archive and he'll put you in touch with
someone.

------
rcarmo
I have a_pile of similar stuff, including Zip_disks (I still have_an IDE_drive
for_that, but nowhere_to_plug it_in). Need to clear those out some_day...

~~~
nmg
That might_be a herculean task - Iomega_zip & jaz disks_suffered_from
notoriously poor data integrity/longevity, and I'm_pretty sure device drivers
do not exist_for any version of Windows_newer_than_XP.

~~~
rcarmo