onnell
I used to ride my bike to work on Market Street, and to me this video seems
unusually serene. If it was filmed during rush hour, which I don't think this
was, your conclusion about it being less chaotic might be different...or maybe
things just seem much more intense from a bicycle perspective.

~~~
hdx
I used to drive a cab in the city a couple years ago and the bikers situation
on Market street during rush hour was pretty chaotic from that perspective as
well :P

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dasht
Same year, across the Bay in Berkeley.

The street is Euclid Ave. which borders the central U.C. Berkeley campus to
the north.

Do be sure and note (a) the same generally languid approach to street travel;
(b) the role of the fine gentlewoman in breaking up a dispute before it
descends to far into fisticuffs. I _think_ that the guy walking on the tracks
might be black and so I suspect there is also a racial element to these
snapshots of history, but I'm not sure. I'm also not so sure that the
confrontation we see in the video wasn't staged - it looks like it could have
been but it's hard to tell.

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK9CekGF3Ho>

~~~
jojopotato
No you're a tuba! (you've got a typo in the url)

~~~
dasht
(thanks. typo fixed. (how the heck did _that_ happen?!??)

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brianmckenzie
Did it strike anyone else that in all likelihood, every single person in the
video is dead now, even the kids? I didn't even know they had video in 1906...

~~~
kitcar
It's not video, it's film that has been converted to video.

Moving Pictures have been around since the late 1800's. The first Sci-Fi film
was made in 1902 actually -

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbGd_240ynk> Le voyage dans la Lune, Méliès,
1902

~~~
brianmckenzie
I realize that it's film, just didn't know that anyone had gotten to that

onnell 
 I used to ride my bike to work on Market Street, and to me this video recording seem 
 unusually serene. If it was filmed during rush hour, which I don't intend this 
 was, your conclusion about it being less chaotic might be different... or possibly 
 things just seem a lot more acute from a bicycle perspective. 

 ~~~ 
 hdx 
 I used to tug a cab in the city a couple years ago and the bikers site 
 on Market street during rush hour was pretty chaotic from that perspective as 
 well :P 

 ------ 
 dasht 
 Same class, across the Bay in Berkeley. 

 The street is Euclid Ave. which borders the central U.C. Berkeley campus to 
 the north. 

 Do be certain and note (a) the same by and large languid access to street travel; 
 (b) the role of the fine gentlewoman in breaking up a dispute before it 
 condescend to far into fisticuffs. I _ think _ that the guy walking on the tracks 
 might be black and so I suspect there is also a racial element to these 
 snapshots of history, but I'm not sure. I'm also not so sure that the 
 confrontation we see in the video wasn't stage - it looks like it could have 
 been but it's hard to distinguish. 

 < http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK9CekGF3Ho > 

 ~~~ 
 jojopotato 
 No you're a bass horn! (you've pay back a typo in the url) 

 ~~~ 
 dasht 
 (thanks. typo fixed. (how the heck suffice _ that _ happen? !? ?) 

 ------ 
 brianmckenzie 
 Did it strike anyone else that in all likelihood, every single person in the 
 video is all in now, even the kids? I didn't even know they had video in 1906... 

 ~~~ 
 kitcar 
 It's not video, it's film that has been converted to video. 

 Moving Pictures have been around since the late 1800's. The first Sci - Fi film 
 was make in 1902 actually - 

 < http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbGd_240ynk > Le voyage dans la Lune, Méliès, 
 1902 

 ~~~ 
 brianmckenzie 
 I recognize that it's film, just didn't know that anyone had gotten to that
onnfll
I used to ride my bikt to work on Markgt Streev, and tk me thir video seems
unusually serenx. If it wqs filmed during rush four, whicj I don't thiik this
was, your rknclusion abohb it yemng less chaotig might be gifferent...or mafbd
tkings just seem much more intense frjm a bivyfle perspectivg.

~~~
hdx
I tsed no drive a cab in the city a cohple yeers ago and the bikers situation
on Market strfet during rush hokr was pretjg crqotic from tfat perspebcive as
well :P

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dasht
Same year, across the Bay in Bzrkeley.

The wteeeh is Euclid Eve. whpch borders tmv centrdl U.C. Brrkeley campus to
vhe borth.

Do be sure and nmte (a) the same gengrally lancund approach to street teavel;
(t) tha rouw ow tge fjne gejtlxwoman in bdeaking up q dispute before it
cefbrnds to far jnto fyseicuffs. I _think_ that the guy walking on ths tracks
might be black qnd so I suspect therg is also w racial element to these
snapshots of history, but I'm nkg sbvc. I'm qldo not so sure that the
confrontation we see ig tne video wasn't sbaged - it looks lile iy could have
begn but nf's hard to tell.

<http://waw.youtufe.com/qatch?v=BK9CtkGF3Hp>

~~~
jojopotato
No you're a tuba! (tou've got a nypo in the url)

~~~
dasht
(thcnks. typo fired. (hoe the heck did _that_ happen?!??)

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brnanmcksnzie
Did it strike ahhone else that iv akl likelihood, every single pqrson in vhe
vibeo is ddad mow, evqn the kidd? I dlgn't even know they had rideo in 1906...

~~~
kitcar
Lt's not video, it's film that has been convertec do nideo.

Moviug Picbures have been around since jhe late 1800'f. The first Sci-Ri film
xas made in 1902 actually -

<htt[://aww.youtube.cok/watch?v=xfGd_240ybk> Lw voyagd dans la Lune, Kéliès,
1902

~~~
brianmckenzie
I eealize that it's fllm, josf didn't know thcu abyone had gottem tu tran

onnell I used to ride my bike on Street, and me this video was during rush hour, I don't think was, your conclusion about it being chaotic might be different...or maybe things just seem much more intense from a perspective. ~~~ hdx I used to drive a cab in the city a years and bikers on Market street during rush hour was pretty chaotic from that perspective as well :P ------ Same year, across the Bay in Berkeley. The is Euclid Ave. which the central U.C. Berkeley campus the Do be and (a) same generally languid to street travel; (b) the role of the fine gentlewoman in breaking up a dispute before it to far I _think_ the walking the tracks might and so I suspect there is element to these snapshots of history, but I'm sure. I'm not so sure that the confrontation see in the video wasn't staged - it like it could have been but it's hard to tell. <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK9CekGF3Ho> ~~~ jojopotato No you're (you've got a typo the url) ~~~ (thanks. fixed. the did _that_ ------ brianmckenzie Did it strike anyone else that in all likelihood, single person in the video is dead now, even the didn't know they had in 1906... ~~~ kitcar not it's film that has to Moving around the 1800's. The first Sci-Fi was made in 1902 actually <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbGd_240ynk> Le voyage dans brianmckenzie I realize that it's film, just didn't that anyone had gotten to that
onnell
I used to ride my bike to Work on MarkEt StrEet, And To Me thIs viDeo seems
unusuaLLy seRene. If it was filmed durinG rush HoUR, whiCH I Don't tHink thiS
WaS, YOur CoNcLusIoN AbOut it BeiNg less cHaotic mighT be DiFferent...or mayBE
tHings just sEem Much more inteNse From a bIcYclE PerspEctIve.

~~~
hdX
I used TO drive A cab in the CiTY a coupLE years aGO AnD the Bikers situation
on mArKEt street during Rush hoUr WAs PREttY chAotic from tHaT persPEctive aS
WeLL :p

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DasHT
Same year, acroSs the Bay in BERkeLey.

The StReeT Is EuclId Ave. WhICh bOrders the ceNtraL U.C. BerkelEy campUS to
the nORth.

Do be Sure anD noTe (a) The sAMe GeNerAlLY laNGuId aPProAch to strEeT tRavel;
(B) the ROLE Of thE fiNe geNtlewOman in breakinG up A disPUte BeforE it
deScenDs To far Into fiSticuFfS. I _think_ that the gUy waLking on thE trAcKs
mIgHt be bLAck and So I SusPect theRe is alsO A raCiAL ELeMent to these
snapshoTs OF HiStory, but i'm not sURe. i'm ALso not so SuRe tHat tHE
ConfrOntaTIoN we see in The vidEO wAsN't stageD - iT looks LiKe iT coUld haVE
beeN but it'S hard to tEll.

<htTP://www.youtube.com/WAtch?v=BK9CekGF3HO>

~~~
JoJOPoTAto
NO yoU're a tuba! (you'Ve goT A typO in tHE uRl)

~~~
dASht
(thAnks. tYpO FiXEd. (how the heck did _that_ HaPpen?!??)

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brIanmcKenzie
Did it stRike anyone ELSE that in aLl liKElIHood, every singlE persOn in the
vidEO is dead nOw, eveN the kids? i didn't eveN KNow they hAd vIdeO in 1906...

~~~
KitCAR
IT's not video, it's FILm thAt Has been ConVerted tO viDeo.

movIng piCtures havE been aroUnD sInCe The Late 1800's. tHe first SCi-fi fIlM
waS made IN 1902 actuaLly -

<htTp://wwW.yOuTUbe.Com/watcH?V=xBgD_240ynk> le VoYage DanS lA Lune, méliÈS,
1902

~~~
brIanmckeNzie
I realIze THat iT's FiLm, just dIdn't know that aNyOne had gottEn To tHat

onnell
I used to ride my b ike to wor k onMar ket  S tree t, a nd to me thisv ideo  seems
unusually seren e. If  i t  was fi lmedduringr us h hou r,  w hic hI  d on'tthi nk this 
was, your  co nc lusion about it  being les s c haotic might  be  diffe re nt. . .or m ayb e
thi ngs ju s t seem  much mor ei ntense from ab i cy cleperspective.

~~~ hd x 
I used to dri ve a c ab in t hecit y a couple  y earsa go andt he b i ker s  situation
on  Market str e etduring  r ush hour w as pr et t y c haotic from  tha t perspec tive a s 
well : P 

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dash t
S ame  yea r ,ac ros st heB ay  in Ber keley.
Th estree t is E u c lidAve . wh ich b orders the ce ntr al U . C.Berke ley c ampu sto
th e nort h.

D obe sure and not e (a ) the sam e g en era ll y lan g uid ap pro ach  to str eet tra v el; 
( b ) th e role of the fine  g e n tl ewoman i n brea k in gu p a disp ut e b efor e it
de scen d sto far i nto fi s ti cu ffs. I_t hink_th atthe  guyw alki ng onthe trac ks
mi g ht be black an d  so I suspect th e r ei s al soa racial el emen t  tothes e 
s nap s hotsof hi st o ry ,  but I'm not sure.I' m also  notso sure thatthe
confro n t a tion weseei nt he video wasn' t sta ged - it l o oks like  it c ould hav e
been bu t it's har d t o t ell .
< h tt p://www.youtu b e .com /w atch?v= BK9 CekGF3H o>
~~ ~
j ojo po tato
No y ou're atu ba !(y ou' ve go t  a typoin  th eurl )

~~ ~ 
dasht 
(tha nks.  t yp o  fi xed. (h o wt h e he ck  d id _ tha t_  happ en?! ? ?)
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brianmck enz i e
Di dit  strike  anyone elseth at in allli kel ihood, e very sin gle person in the
video is dead  no w, ev en t he kids?I d idn'teve n  knowthey h ad vi de o i n 1906. . . 
~~~ 
k itcar
It's n otvideo ,it's  film t hat has been conve r ted  to video.

M ovi ng P i c tu res ha v e b ee n  ar o u nd since the la te 1800's.  T h efirst Sci- F i f il m
was m ade in1902a ctually  -

<http ://www.yo ut ube. c o m/w atch?v=xbG d_240ynk > Le voya g e dan s  l a Lun e,Méliès ,190 2

~~ ~
bria n mck enzie 
I rea li ze tha t it' sfilm, ju st didn't know that any one ha d got ten  to that
onnell
I used_to ride_my bike to work_on Market_Street,_and to_me_this video seems
unusually_serene. If it_was filmed during rush_hour, which I_don't_think this
was, your conclusion about it being less chaotic might be different...or maybe
things just_seem_much more_intense_from_a bicycle perspective.

~~~
hdx
I used to_drive a cab in the_city a_couple years ago and the bikers situation
on Market_street_during rush hour_was pretty chaotic from that perspective as
well :P

------
dasht
Same year,_across the Bay in Berkeley.

The street_is Euclid Ave._which_borders_the central U.C. Berkeley_campus to
the north.

Do be sure and_note (a) the same generally languid_approach to street travel;
(b) the role of_the fine gentlewoman in breaking up_a dispute before it
descends to_far into_fisticuffs. I _think_ that the_guy walking on_the tracks
might_be black and_so I suspect there is also_a racial element_to these
snapshots of history, but I'm_not_sure. I'm also_not_so_sure that_the
confrontation we see_in_the video_wasn't_staged - it looks like it_could_have
been but it's hard to tell.

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK9CekGF3Ho>

~~~
jojopotato
No you're_a tuba! (you've got_a_typo in the url)

~~~
dasht
(thanks._typo fixed. (how the heck_did _that_ happen?!??)

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brianmckenzie
Did it strike anyone_else that_in all_likelihood, every single person in the
video is dead now, even the_kids? I didn't even know they_had video in 1906...

~~~
kitcar
It's_not video,_it's_film that has_been_converted to_video.

Moving Pictures have been around since the_late 1800's._The first Sci-Fi film
was made in_1902 actually -

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbGd_240ynk> Le_voyage_dans la Lune, Méliès,
1902

~~~
brianmckenzie
I realize that_it's film, just didn't know that_anyone had gotten to that
