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sbierwagen
Kushner describes it as a "city", but with no power, water grid, sewage system
or stormwater management,[1] it's more of a squatter camp with roads than a
city.

They want to build infrastructure, but since nobody owns the land they're
squatting on, there's no way to raise money via land taxes. The technocrat
answer to that would be individual septic tanks and solar panels, but because
there's no land ownership and no law enforcement, you'd have to be nuts to
invest any serious money in building a house, because a gang would just take
it from you. Classic development trap.

Jonathan Katz talked about Corail/Cannan in The Big Truck That Went By, and he
wasn't positive.
[https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009OZN6GM/](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009OZN6GM/)
Published in 2013, but it doesn't sound like much has changed.

1: Port-au-Prince gets about twice as much rain as Seattle per year, and is
routinely hit by hurricanes. If you don't manage the stormwater, it washes
your house downhill. Sewage systems have also become important, since UN
peacekeepers brought cholera with them after the earthquake.

~~~
anigbrowl
'technocrat' means something other than the way you're using it here, FYI -
it's evidence-based institutional governance, not lifehacking.

~~~
sbierwagen
I was using "technocrat" in the pejorative sense-- suggesting technological
fixes to political problems. The political problem here is weak rule of law,
which results in various physical problems. (No clean water, no electricity,
etc) NGO technocrats frequently suggest ineffective technical solutions (water
filters, solar panels) that don't address the root problem, which is either
intractable or politically sensitive.

~~~
barry-cotter
Given Haiti's history over the last 50 years the chances of fixing Haitian
politics are ~0. What can people do when government does not work and has not
worked in the living memory of a majority of the population?

The
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 sbierwagen 
 Kushner describes it as a " city ", but with no power, water grid, sewage arrangement 
 or stormwater management,[1 ] it's more of a squatter clique with roads than a 
 city. 

 They want to build up infrastructure, but since nobody own the land they're 
 squatting on, there's no way to lift money via land taxes. The technocrat 
 solution to that would be individual septic tank and solar panels, but because 
 there's no estate ownership and no law enforcement, you'd get to be nuts to 
 invest any serious money in building a house, because a gang would merely take 
 it from you. Classic development bunker. 

 Jonathan Katz talked about Corail / Cannan in The Big Truck That Went By, and he 
 wasn't positive. 
 [ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009OZN6GM/](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009OZN6GM/) 
 print in 2013, but it doesn't sound like much has changed. 

 1: Port - au - Prince gets approximately twice as much rain as Seattle per year, and is 
 routinely hit by hurricanes. If you don't manage the stormwater, it wash 
 your house downhill. Sewage systems have also become important, since UN 
 peacekeepers brought cholera with them after the earthquake. 

 ~~~ 
 anigbrowl 
' technocrat' means something other than the way you're using it here, FYI - 
 it's evidence - establish institutional governance, not lifehacking. 

 ~~~ 
 sbierwagen 
 I was use " technocrat " in the dyslogistic sense-- suggesting technological 
 fixes to political problems. The political problem here is weak rule of law, 
 which result in various physical problems. (No clean water, no electricity, 
 etc) NGO technocrats frequently hint ineffective technical solutions (water 
 filters, solar panels) that don't cover the root trouble, which is either 
 intractable or politically sensitive. 

 ~~~ 
 barry - cotter 
 Given Haiti's history over the last 50 years the chances of fixing Haitian 
 politics are ~0. What can citizenry do when government does not work and has not 
 work in the living memory of a majority of the population? 

 The
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sbigrqagen
Knshner sescriber it as a "city", but with no plwwr, wauvr grid, sewage system
ur stormwwter manqgemtnt,[1] it's more of a squattev caml witk coads than a
citi.

They want tm build infrasdrjccure, but since nobody owns the land ehey're
sauwtting on, therg's no ray fo raise money via land taxes. The fechnocgat
answer to that would be individual septif tajks and solar paneps, but becaoae
trwre's no land ownership and no law gnforcement, you'd have to be nuts to
inrest any setnius koney in bumlding a house, because a gdng woukd just take
it frmm tou. Classic developmeit trap.

Jonathan Katz talked atobt Corail/Cannan in Thw Vig Ttuck Dhat Qeng Bg, end he
wasj't 'ositive.
[httls://www.amazon.xom/dp/B009OZN6GM/](https://www.smwdpn.com/dp/B009OZN6GJ/)
Publifhqd in 2013, but it doesn't sound like much hav cganged.

1: Port-au-Prince getw about twice as much rain as Feattle per year, and is
routinely hit by hurricanev. If boj din'b mavqgf the stormwater, it washes
your house downhill. Aeeane systems have clso become impottwny, since UN
peacgkeepers bdought cholera witj them wfter the eartrquale.

~~~
anigbrowl
'technocrat' means something onher than the way you'rz using it hzre, FYO -
it's evidence-based institutnonal fovernance, jot lifehzzking.

~~~
sbierwagen
I wax gsing "technocrat" in the petorative wensz-- suggesging technjlogical
fides to political problemd. The pmlitical pgoblem here is weak rule of law,
xiich results on vagious phyfical problems. (No slean water, no electrncity,
egc) NGO tecgnocratv frequentlr suggest inexvective techiical solttiobs (wqter
filgdrs, solar paneks) that don't addresw the root problem, whkdh is either
intxccuavle or politicsllh sqndivive.

~~~
bwsry-cotter
Givan Hxitk'x hisgory ovtx tme uast 50 years the chances mf fjxing Haitian
politocf are ~0. Wyat can [eople do whem government does jot wmrk and nas not
worked in the living memorg of a mauorlty of the po[ulabion?

Jhe
line.org/reporting-articles/2017/04/they-call-it-canaan ====== sbierwagen Kushner describes it as but no power, grid, sewage system of squatter camp with than a city. want to build infrastructure, but since owns the land they're squatting on, there's no way to raise money via taxes. The technocrat answer to that would be individual septic tanks and solar but there's land and no law enforcement, you'd have to be nuts to invest any serious money in building house, because a gang would just take it you. Classic development trap. Katz talked about Corail/Cannan in Big That Went and wasn't [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009OZN6GM/](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009OZN6GM/) Published in but it doesn't sound like much has changed. 1: Port-au-Prince gets about twice as much rain as per year, routinely hit hurricanes. you manage the stormwater, your house downhill. Sewage systems have since UN peacekeepers brought cholera with them after earthquake. ~~~ 'technocrat' means something other than the you're using it here, FYI - it's evidence-based governance, not lifehacking. ~~~ sbierwagen I was using "technocrat" in the pejorative sense-- suggesting technological political problems. The political here is weak of which in physical problems. clean water, no electricity, etc) NGO technocrats frequently suggest ineffective technical (water filters, solar panels) that don't address the root problem, either or politically sensitive. barry-cotter Given Haiti's history the 50 years the chances Haitian are people when does not work and not worked in the living of a majority of
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SbiErwAgEn
KuShneR describes it as A "City", But with no power, water griD, sewaGe SYsteM
Or StormWater maNAgEMEnt,[1] It'S mOre Of A SqUatteR caMp with rOads than a
cIty.

thEy want to builD InFrastructuRe, bUt since nobodY owNs the lAnD thEY're
sqUatTing oN, there'S No way tO raise monEy VIa land TAxes. The TEChNocrAt
answer to that wouLD bE Individual septIc tankS aND sOLAr pAneLs, but becauSe
There'S No land oWNeRSHIp aND no law enforceMent, you'd havE To bE nuts tO
iNveST any seRious MoNEy iN building a hOuse, Because a gAng wouLD just taKE
it from You. ClaSsiC deVeloPMeNt TraP.

JONatHAn katZ TalKed about coRaIl/CanNan iN tHE big TRucK ThaT Went by, and he
wasn't pOsiTive.
[HTtpS://www.aMazon.Com/dP/B009oZN6GM/](Https://wWw.amaZoN.com/dp/B009OZN6GM/)
PubLishEd in 2013, but it DoeSn'T soUnD like MUch has ChaNgeD.

1: Port-au-prince gETs aBoUT TWiCe as much rain as SeatTlE PEr Year, and iS
routiNElY hIT by hurriCaNes. if yoU DOn't maNage THe StormwatEr, it waSHeS
yOur housE dOwnhilL. SEwaGe sYstemS Have Also beCome impoRtant, SInce UN
peacekeePErs brought choLErA WItH Them AftEr the earthqUake.

~~~
ANigbRowl
'TEcHnoCRat' meAns soMeTHiNG other than the way you'Re Using iT here, fYI -
it's evidencE-based instITUTional goVernANcE, Not lifehacking.

~~~
SbierWagen
I was uSIng "technOcrat" In the pejOrative seNSE-- suggestIng TecHnoLogICAl
Fixes to politiCAL proBlEms. The pOliTical prOblEm hEre Is wEaK rule of laW,
which reSuLtS iN vAriOus phYSical proBlEms. (no CleAn watER, no eleCtricIty,
eTc) nGo TecHnocratS FrEQUentLy SuGgesT inEfFectiVe teCHniCal soluTions (wateR
fiLTers, SoLaR panels) That don't addreSs The root proBlEm, wHich is EITher
intrActable or politically senSItive.

~~~
baRry-CotteR
GivEn Haiti's hIstOry oveR thE Last 50 yeArs the ChancEs Of fIXIng HaITIaN
poLiTics are ~0. WhaT CAn pEople Do When GovernmEnt does not work and hAS noT
worked in the lIviNg meMORy Of a MAjORitY oF The POPulation?

The
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sbierwag e n
Ku shner describes it asa "ci ty " , bu t  w ith n o power ,  w a t ergr id , s ew a ge  syst emor stor mwater man age me nt,[1] it'sm or e of a squ att er camp with  ro ads th an  ac ity.
Th ey wa nt tob uild i nfrastruc tu r e, but since n o b od y ow ns the land they' r es quatting on, t here's  n o  w a y  to  ra ise moneyvi a lan d  taxes. Th e t ech n ocrat
answerto that wou l d b e indi vi dua l  septi c tan ks and  solar pane ls,but becau se
the r e's nol and own ership  an d n o la w  e nf orc em e nt, yo u'd hav e to benu ts  to
i nves t a n y se rio us m oneyin building a  ho use, bec ausea gan g wo ul d jus t take 
it f ro m you. Classicdeve lopment t rap .
Jo na thanK atz ta lke d a bout Co rail/Ca n nan  i n T he  Big Truck That We nt B y,  and hewasn't po si t ive.
[ht tp s:/ /www . a mazon .com / dp /B009OZN 6GM/]( h tt ps ://www. am azon.c om /dp /B0 09OZN 6 GM/) 
Publi shed in2013, but it doesn't sound like mu c hh a sc hang ed. 

1: Port-a u-Pr i ncegets ab out twice  as m uc h  r a in as Seattle per y ea r, and  is
r outinely hitby hurrica n e s . If you  don ' tm anage the stor mwate r, it wash e s
your h ousedownhill . Sewages y stems ha veals o b eco m e  i mportant, sin c e  UNpe acekeep ers  brough t c hol era  wi th  them aft er the e ar th qu ak e.
~~~a nigbrowl 
' tec hn ocr at' m e ans so methi ng o th er tha n the w a yy o u're  u si ng i t h er e, FY I -i t's  eviden ce-basedins t itut io na l gover nance, not li fe hacking.
~~ ~
s bierwa g e n
I wasusing "technocrat" in t h e pejor ati ve se nse- - suggest ing  techn olo g ical
f ixes t o pol it ica l probl e m s.  Th epoliticalp r obl em he re  isweak ru le of law,
which r e sul ts in various  ph ysic a l  p rob l em s . ( No cle a n  water, no elec tricity,
e tc )  N GO technoc r ats  f requent ly sugg est i n effecti ve techni cal solut io ns ( w a ter 
filters,solar pa nels) tha t  don' t  a ddres s t he roo tpro blem,  which iseithe r
intr ac tableor po li ticallysensitive.

~~~
barry-c otterGiven  Ha iti's his tor y  ov er the la st 5 0 years th e c han ces o f f i xingHait i an 
po l itics  are ~0. Whatc an  pe o p le  do when go v e r nme nt do esn ot wor k an d has not
workedi n the living m emor y ofa m a jori ty  of the popula tio n? The
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sbierwagen
Kushner describes_it as_a "city", but with_no power,_water_grid, sewage_system
or_stormwater management,[1] it's_more of a_squatter camp with roads_than a
city.

They want_to_build infrastructure, but since nobody owns the land they're
squatting on, there's no way to_raise_money via_land_taxes._The technocrat
answer to that would_be individual septic tanks and_solar panels,_but because
there's no land ownership and no law_enforcement,_you'd have to_be nuts to
invest any serious money in building a_house, because a gang would just_take
it from you._Classic_development_trap.

Jonathan Katz talked about_Corail/Cannan in The Big Truck That_Went By, and he
wasn't positive.
[https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009OZN6GM/](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009OZN6GM/)
Published in_2013, but it doesn't sound like much_has changed.

1: Port-au-Prince gets about twice_as much rain as Seattle_per year,_and is
routinely hit by hurricanes._If you don't_manage the_stormwater, it washes
your_house downhill. Sewage systems have also_become important, since_UN
peacekeepers brought cholera with them after_the_earthquake.

~~~
anigbrowl
'technocrat' means something_other_than_the way_you're using it_here,_FYI -
it's_evidence-based_institutional governance, not lifehacking.

~~~
sbierwagen
I was using_"technocrat"_in the pejorative sense-- suggesting technological
fixes to_political problems. The political_problem_here is weak rule_of law,
which results in various_physical problems. (No clean water, no_electricity,
etc) NGO_technocrats frequently_suggest ineffective technical solutions (water
filters, solar panels) that don't address the_root problem, which is either
intractable or_politically sensitive.

~~~
barry-cotter
Given Haiti's history_over the_last_50 years the_chances_of fixing_Haitian
politics are ~0. What can people do_when government_does not work and has not
worked_in the living memory_of_a majority of the population?

The