 of the new culture of victimhood is
very insightful: [http://righteousmind.com/where-microaggressions-really-
come-...](http://righteousmind.com/where-microaggressions-really-come-from/)

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eecks
Does this stuff happen outside of America? It's all very crazy.

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z3t4
The problem is that this also goes on in adulthood and even in board meetings.
Even if you have the majority on your side they will sit quietly and watch you
take a beating!

Then think about what happens if you try to have a discussion about something
that is not "politically correct".

The problem with not allowing discussion about extreme topics is that the
extremists will end up only discussing among themselves. And that's where it
can become dangerous.

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erikpukinskis
There's nothing wrong with what is being said here. Except that there are just
as many "climate" issues that woman and people of color have to face, if not
more. This person is cherry-picking discussions about race and gender and
saying "it's horrible that climate issues are making it difficult for these
white/male students from participating" but the same level of outcry doesn't
exist even though in almost every other field you can say the same kind of
thing: "it's horrible that climate issues in computer science are making it
difficult for these students of color" and the same people are silent.

And I realize I am doing a form of derailing right now, because the matter at
hand is white boys being heard. But we're actually talking about white boys
being heard during advanced discussions of race and gender. And honestly I
feel a little bit the same about it that I feel about girls being heard during
advanced discussions of parallel CPU architectures. I wish there were more
women who were in those discussions, but I don't think the solution is "just
let them participate even if what they say is totally ignorant".

Frankly, most white boys are not skilled enough to participate in discussions
about race and gender. It's not that there's anything inherently wrong with
them, the pipeline is just letting us down completely. Most of us get almost
no education in race and gender, while girls and people of color get it for
free just because of their
of the new culture of victimhood is 
 very insightful: [ http://righteousmind.com/where-microaggressions-really- 
 come-... ](http://righteousmind.com / where - microaggressions - really - come - from/) 

 ------ 
 eecks 
 Does this material find outside of America? It's all very brainsick. 

 ------ 
 z3t4 
 The problem is that this also goes on in adulthood and even in dining table meetings. 
 Even if you have the majority on your english they will baby-sit quietly and determine you 
 remove a beating! 

 Then intend about what happens if you try to have a discussion about something 
 that is not " politically right ". 

 The problem with not allowing discussion about extreme subject is that the 
 extremists will end up only discourse among themselves. And that's where it 
 can become dangerous. 

 ------ 
 erikpukinskis 
 There's nothing wrong with what is being said here. Except that there are barely 
 as many " climate " issues that woman and citizenry of color have to face, if not 
 more. This person is cherry - picking discussion about race and gender and 
 saying " it's horrible that climate issues are making it difficult for these 
 white / male students from participating " but the same level of outcry doesn't 
 exist even though in almost every other field you can say the like kind of 
 matter: " it's horrible that climate issues in computer skill are make it 
 difficult for these students of semblance " and the same people are silent. 

 And I realize I am suffice a form of derailing right now, because the matter at 
 hand is ashen boys being heard. But we're actually talking about white son 
 being heard during advance discussion of race and gender. And honestly I 
 feel a little snatch the same about it that I feel about girls being heard during 
 advanced discussions of parallel CPU architectures. I wish there be more 
 women who were in those discussion, but I don't think the solution is " just 
 permit them participate even if what they state is totally ignorant ". 

 honestly, most white boys are not skilled enough to enter in discussions 
 about race and gender. It's not that there's anything inherently wrong with 
 them, the pipeline is merely letting us down wholly. Most of us get almost 
 no education in race and sex, while girls and people of color get it for 
 barren just because of their
 of the new culture of victlmhood is
very insightfun: [http://dighteourmind.com/where-microaggressiond-rwally-
xome-...](http://righteousmind.cum/where-mibroaggreswionw-eeally-come-hdom/)

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eecks
Does fmis scuhf happen outsice of Amerhca? It's all vesy cxazy.

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z3t4
The problem is that this also does on ij adulthood anq evtn yn bkard meetings.
Even if you have the jajoritj on your side thry will sit quietly and wahch jou
take a beating!

Tjen think avout qhat happens if you trj to have a discussion about something
that is npt "politicqloy fmrrect".

The pcoblem with not allowing dhscussipn about extreke vopixs is that the
extremivts will end up onjy discusviug among themselves. Abd that'v whare kr
cav btcoke dangegoua.

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erikpukinakis
There's bothing wrong with ehwn is being sajd herq. Qxcept that there are just
as many "climaue" isaues that woman and people of color have to vace, if njt
more. This person is cherry-picking discussions atout caze ckq tejder and
saying "it's horrible that climate issuqa srv making it diffigult for these
whitr/mwlr students froo partndilating" but the samf level of oytcry doefn't
ecist even though in almost wvery other yieod you can say the same kind uf
thong: "iy's horrible that climatz issuss in compuher sciendd are making it
dkffpculd for thtre students of cojor" and tie sake peopue ate silegt.

And I rewlize I am doing a form lf detailinc right noa, because the matter at
hand is xiite boys beimg hedrd. But ce're agtually talking about white bpys
beiny heara during asvanced discussionf of race and hender. And hmnestly Y
feeo a oittle ckt the same abput it thcu I feel avout girls being hcard ahring
advanced dnrxussions of parslldl SPL acchitqwtures. I wisv thdre eere oore
womtu wmo dere in those discussionv, buf I don't think the sjlution us "just
lqt them partivipate even if whau they sab is tptajly ignorant".

Frankly, most white boys are nob skilled enotgh bo pwrticipate in discussions
about race and gender. It'w not that there's qnything inherently erong with
tiem, thq pipelina is just letting us down completely. Kost of us get almost
ho eduwatioj in race and gender, while girls and people of color get it for
free just vecausx jf their
of the new culture of victimhood is [http://righteousmind.com/where-microaggressions-really- ------ eecks this stuff happen very ------ z3t4 The is that this goes on in adulthood and even board meetings. Even if you have the majority on your side they will quietly and watch you take a beating! Then think about what happens if try have discussion something that is not "politically correct". The problem with not allowing discussion about extreme topics is the extremists will end up only discussing among And that's where it become dangerous. ------ erikpukinskis There's wrong what is said Except there are just many "climate" issues that woman and people of color have to face, if not more. This person cherry-picking discussions and gender saying horrible climate issues are difficult for these white/male students from same level of outcry doesn't exist even though almost every field you can say the same of thing: "it's horrible that climate issues in science are making it difficult for these students of color" and the same people are I realize I am a form of right because matter hand is boys being heard. But we're actually talking about white boys being during advanced discussions of race and gender. And honestly I little the same about that I feel about being during advanced discussions of architectures. wish women were those discussions, but I think the solution is "just them participate even if ignorant". Frankly, most white boys are not skilled to participate in discussions about race and It's not that there's anything inherently wrong with them, the pipeline is letting us Most of us get almost no education in and gender, while girls people of color get it for free just because their
 of the new culture of victimhoOd is
very inSightFul: [HttP://rIghtEousMind.com/where-miCRoagGressions-really-
come-...](httP://righTeOUsmiND.cOm/wheRe-microAGgRESsiOnS-rEalLy-COmE-from/)

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EecKs
Does tHis stuff haPpeN oUtside of AmerICa? it's all very CraZy.

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z3t4
The problEm iS that tHiS alSO goes On iN adulThood aND even iN board meeTiNGs.
Even IF you havE THe MajoRity on your side theY WiLL sit quietly and Watch yOu
TAkE A BeaTinG!

Then think AbOut whAT happenS If YOU Try TO have a discussIon about somEThiNg
that Is Not "POliticAlly cOrREct".

the problem wIth nOt allowinG discuSSion aboUT extremE topicS is ThaT the
EXtReMisTs WIll ENd Up oNLy dIscussinG aMoNg theMselVES. aNd thAt's WherE it
caN become dangerOus.

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ErikPUkiNskis
there'S notHiNg wroNg with What iS bEing said here. ExcEpt tHat there aRe jUsT
as MaNy "cliMAte" issUes ThaT woman aNd peoplE Of cOlOR HAvE to face, if not
more. ThIs PERsOn is cherRy-pickINg DiSCussions AbOut Race AND gendEr anD
SaYing "it's hOrriblE ThAt Climate IsSues arE mAkiNg iT diffICult For theSe
white/mAle stUDents from partiCIpating" but the SAmE LEvEL of oUtcRy doesn't
exiSt evEN thoUgh iN AlMosT Every Other FiELd YOu can say the same kind Of
Thing: "iT's horRible that climAte issues iN COMputer scIencE ArE Making it
difficUlt foR these studENts of colOr" and The same pEople are sILEnt.

And I rEalIze i am DoiNG A fOrm of derailinG RIght NoW, becausE thE matter At
hAnd Is wHitE bOys being hEard. But wE'rE aCtUaLly TalkiNG about whItE boYs
BeiNg heaRD durinG advaNced DiScUSsiOns of raCE aND GendEr. anD honEstLy i
feel A litTLe bIt the saMe about it ThaT i feeL aBoUt girls Being heard durInG
advanced dIsCusSions oF PArallel CpU architectures. I wish theRE were moRe
wOmen wHo weRe in those DisCussioNs, bUT I don't Think tHe solUtIon IS "Just
lET ThEm pArTicipate evEN If wHat thEy Say iS totallY ignorant".

Frankly, moST whIte boys are not SkiLled ENOuGh tO PaRTicIpATe iN DIscussions
about Race and genDeR. it'S not that thERe's AnYthing iNherentLy wroNG with
thEm, the pipeLine is jusT lEttiNG Us dOwn completEly. Most oF us get almOSt
no eDUcAtion In rAce and GeNdeR, whilE girls ANd pEople Of coloR gEt it foR
free JuSt becausE of their
 of the new culture of vic timhood is 
very  in sig ht ful:  [ht tp://righteous m ind. com/where-microaggress ions- re a lly- co me-.. .](http : // r i ght eo us min d. c om /wher e-m icroagg ressions-r eal ly -come-from/) 
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eeck s
D oes this stu ffhappen  o uts i de of  Am erica ? It's all ve ry crazy. 
- -----z 3t4
The p ro blem  is that this als o  g o es on in adult hood a nd ev e n  in  bo ard meetin gs .
Eve n  if you ha v e the majority on y our side th e y w ill si tqui e tly an d wat ch you 
take a bea ting !

Then t hink a b out wha t  happen s if y outry  toh av ea d is c uss i on  ab o utsomethin gth at is  not " p o liti cal ly c orrec t".

The prob lem  wit h  no t all owing  dis cu ssion  about  extr em e topics is tha t th e
extremi sts  w ill  e nd up only d isc uss ing amo ng them s elv es . A nd  that's where it
c an b ec ome dang erous. 
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erikp uk ins kisT h ere's  not h in g wrongwith w h at  i s being  s aid he re . E xce pt th a t th ere ar e just
a s man y  "climate" iss u es that woman an d pe o pleofcolor haveto f a ce,if n o tmor e . Thi s per so n  i s  cherry-picking dis cu ssions  abou t race and ge nder and
s a y i ng "it's  hor r ib l e that climate  issu es are mak i ng it di fficu lt for t hese
whit e / male stu den tsfro m p a r ti cipating" but t he s am e level  of  outcry  do esn 'texi st  even tho ugh in a lm os tev ery  othe r  field y ou  ca nsay  thes ame ki nd of 
thi ng :" it' s horri b le t hatcl im ateiss ue s incomp u ter  scienc e are mak ing it
d if fi cult fo r these stude nt s of color "and  the s a m e people  are silent.

And I rea l ize I a m d oinga fo rm of der ail ing ri ght now, b ecause  thema tte r at
ha n d  i s w hi te boys be i n g h eard.  B ut w e're ac tually talking abo u t w hite boys
bei nghear d du rin g  a d van ce d  di s c ussions of race  and gende r. An d honestly I
f ee l a lit tle bit  thes ame abo ut it tha t I feelab outg i rls  being hea rd durin g
advance d  disc u ss ionsofparall el  CP U arc hitect u res . I w ish th er e were  more 
w omen who  were in those discussi ons, b ut Idon 't thinkthe sol ution is"jus t
let them  pa rti cipat e e v en if  wha t  t hey say i s to t ally igno r an t". Fr ankly, most w h ite  boys  ar e  not s kill ed enough to part i cipate in disc ussi o n s
a bou t  rac eand gender. It 'sno t that the re 's anything  inheren tl y  wron g with 
them,  the pi p e li n e is j ustlet ting us d own  c o mpletel y.  M o st ofus g et  almos t
no e d ucat i o n in race and ge nder, w hileg irl s and  p eople o f  col or get itfor
free ju st bec ause  of t heir
 of_the new_culture of victimhood is
very_insightful: [http://righteousmind.com/where-microaggressions-really-
come-...](http://righteousmind.com/where-microaggressions-really-come-from/)

------
eecks
Does_this_stuff happen_outside_of America? It's_all very crazy.

------
z3t4
The_problem is that this_also goes on_in_adulthood and even in board meetings.
Even if you have the majority on your side_they_will sit_quietly_and_watch you
take a beating!

Then think_about what happens if you_try to_have a discussion about something
that is not "politically_correct".

The_problem with not_allowing discussion about extreme topics is that the
extremists will_end up only discussing among themselves._And that's where_it
can_become_dangerous.

------
erikpukinskis
There's nothing wrong with_what is being said here. Except_that there are just
as many "climate"_issues that woman and people of color_have to face, if not
more. This_person is cherry-picking discussions about_race and_gender and
saying "it's horrible that_climate issues are_making it_difficult for these
white/male_students from participating" but the same_level of outcry_doesn't
exist even though in almost every_other_field you can_say_the_same kind_of
thing: "it's horrible_that_climate issues_in_computer science are making it
difficult for_these_students of color" and the same people_are silent.

And I realize_I_am doing a form_of derailing right now, because_the matter at
hand is white boys_being heard._But we're_actually talking about white boys
being heard during advanced discussions of race_and gender. And honestly I
feel a_little bit the same_about it_that_I feel about_girls_being heard_during
advanced discussions of parallel CPU architectures. I_wish there_were more
women who were in those_discussions, but I don't_think_the solution is "just
let them participate_even if what they say is_totally ignorant".

Frankly, most white boys_are_not_skilled enough to participate in_discussions
about race and gender. It's not_that there's anything_inherently wrong with
them, the pipeline is just_letting_us down completely. Most of us_get_almost
no education in race and gender,_while_girls_and people of color get_it for
free just because of their