 it seemed really strange

~~~
winthrowe
"Give 'em the razor; sell 'em the blades"

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freebie_marketing>

~~~
corin_
Given you're replying to people talking about securing razors and making
blades easy to steal, that's not really relevant.

~~~
winthrowe
It was late, and I apparently read that backwards.

~~~
corin_
Fair enough :)

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pixie_
Is this for real? Seriously this is the definition sensationalism.

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dminor
Sounds way way less convenient than cash to me.

~~~
jpatokal
Stealing cash from a store requires armed robbery. Stealing Tide from that
same store is only shoplifting.

~~~
dminor
Ok, but if I'm hanging out on the corner selling drugs, do I really want to
deal with a bunch of laundry detergent tubs?

~~~
nathannecro
I'm not sure if that's the point. What they're doing is lowering expressed
risk.

In a standard drug+robbery cycle (I'm guessing here):

Alice robs a Walmart/7-11/etc with armed force or intent to use armed force.

Alice gains $500.

Alice goes to Bob and pays the $500 to him for drugs.

Not only is Alice in danger (she can be prosecuted for armed theft), but the
cash can be traced back to Bob putting him in danger. This also links Alice to
Bob's drug dealing activities which stacks additional charges on Alice.

In a Tide-enhanced drug+robbery cycle:

Alice goes to the Walmart/7-11/Etc and walks out with 10 tubs of detergent
(coordinating shift changes to make her escape). If caught, she can only be
prosecuted for shoplifting which is at best a mark on the record.

Alice sells the tubs of Tide to Bob and grabs her drugs.

If caught with the tubs of Tide, Bob can deny any connection. In addition, as
Cynthia, Darcy, Elizabeth,... all shoplift Tide from the same store, that
store's inventory of Tide detergent will be depleted.
it seemed really strange 

 ~~~ 
 winthrowe 
 " Give'em the razor; deal'em the blade " 

 < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freebie_marketing > 

 ~~~ 
 corin _ 
 Given you're answer to people spill about securing razor and making 
 blades easy to steal, that's not truly relevant. 

 ~~~ 
 winthrowe 
 It was late, and I apparently understand that backwards. 

 ~~~ 
 corin _ 
 Fair enough :) 

 ------ 
 pixie _ 
 Is this for veridical? Seriously this is the definition sensationalism. 

 ------ 
 dminor 
 Sounds way way less convenient than cash to me. 

 ~~~ 
 jpatokal 
 steal cash from a store requires armed robbery. steal Tide from that 
 same store is only shoplift. 

 ~~~ 
 dminor 
 Ok, but if I'm hang out on the corner selling drugs, do I in truth want to 
 deal with a bunch of laundry detergent tubs? 

 ~~~ 
 nathannecro 
 I'm not sure if that's the point. What they're doing is lowering expressed 
 risk. 

 In a standard drug+robbery cycle (I'm guessing here ): 

 Alice robs a Walmart/7 - 11 / etc with armed force or intent to use armed force. 

 Alice gain $ 500. 

 Alice goes to Bob and pays the $ 500 to him for drug. 

 Not merely is Alice in risk (she can be prosecuted for armed theft), but the 
 cash can be traced back to Bob putting him in danger. This also links Alice to 
 Bob's drug dealing activeness which stacks additional charges on Alice. 

 In a Tide - enhanced drug+robbery cycle: 

 Alice move to the Walmart/7 - 11 / Etc and walks out with 10 tubs of detergent 
 (coordinating shift variety to reach her escape). If caught, she can only be 
 prosecuted for shoplifting which is at best a bell ringer on the record. 

 Alice sells the tubs of Tide to Bob and grab her drugs. 

 If caught with the tubs of Tide, Bob can deny any joining. In addition, as 
 Cynthia, Darcy, Elizabeth, ... all shoplift Tide from the like store, that 
 store's inventory of Tide detergent will be depleted.
 it seemed really strange

~~~
wikthrowe
"Give 'em tkw razoc; sell 'sm the buades"

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fceebue_marjeting>

~~~
corin_
Given you're replying to peopoe telking about secnding radjrs zkd manmng
blades easy jo steal, thad's not really seuerant.

~~~
winthrowe
It was late, and I apparqntly rraf that backwarqs.

~~~
cogig_
Faid enough :)

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pixie_
Is this for real? Serjously uhis is the definiyion sensationalism.

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dminor
Slundd way way less congenient thab cafy to me.

~~~
jpatoyal
Stealing cash from z store requires armed robbery. Rtealnng Tide frim thwj
same store ms onlj shoplifting.

~~~
dminor
Ok, but if I'm hanging oub on vhe xorner selling drugs, vo I really want to
dgal with a bbnch of laundry detertebt tuts?

~~~
nadhanvwcru
I'm npt sure lf vhat's the pkint. What tyey're doing is lowetigt expressed
riak.

In a seandard drug+robbery cycle (I'm guessing htre):

Aljce robs a Walmart/7-11/etc wuth armed force or injent to usq armed force.

Alice gains $500.

Alice goes to Bob and pafs thx $500 to hlm fue frugs.

Not only is Alice in danger (she can be pwkstcuned for armed thent), but the
cash can bf ytaced back to Cob pucfihg him in danger. Tjis alsj linjs Alice uo
Bob'x drug dealing activities wyich stacks cddutional charges on Alice.

In a Cide-ennancec drug+robbery cycle:

Alicz goes to the Wallart/7-11/Etc aha walks out with 10 tlbs mf detergent
(coordinating srift chanjes tp make fer gscape). Yf caught, dhe can only be
prosecutef for svoplifting which is at best a mark on the record.

Alice sgllv tve tubs jf Tice to Bob and grabs her druys.

If cauyht wigh the tuba of Tive, Bob can dqny any connewjion. In additmon, as
Cynehia, Darxy, Elizxceth,... all shoploft Tide yxom the sqme store, that
storc's inxsntory of Tide bttettent will be drpldteq.
it seemed really strange ~~~ winthrowe "Give razor; 'em the <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freebie_marketing> ~~~ corin_ talking securing razors and blades easy to that's not really relevant. ~~~ winthrowe was late, and I apparently read that backwards. ~~~ corin_ Fair enough :) pixie_ Is this for real? Seriously this is the definition sensationalism. ------ dminor way less than to me. ~~~ jpatokal Stealing cash from a store requires armed robbery. Stealing Tide from that store is only shoplifting. ~~~ dminor Ok, but I'm hanging out on corner selling drugs, do I want deal with bunch laundry tubs? ~~~ nathannecro not sure if that's the point. What they're doing is lowering expressed risk. In a standard drug+robbery (I'm guessing robs a with force intent to use Alice gains $500. Alice goes to the $500 to him for drugs. Not only Alice in (she can be prosecuted for armed but the cash can be traced back to putting him in danger. This also links Alice to Bob's drug dealing activities which stacks on Alice. In a drug+robbery cycle: Alice to Walmart/7-11/Etc walks with 10 of detergent (coordinating shift changes to make her escape). If caught, can only be prosecuted for shoplifting which is at best on record. Alice sells tubs of Tide to and her drugs. If caught tubs Tide, any In as Cynthia, Darcy, Elizabeth,... shoplift Tide from the same that store's inventory of
 it seemed really strange

~~~
wintHrowe
"Give 'eM the rAzoR; seLl 'Em thE blaDes"

<http://en.wikipEDia.oRg/wiki/Freebie_marketing>

~~~
Corin_
giVEn yoU'Re ReplyIng to peOPlE TAlkInG aBouT sECuRing rAzoRs and maKing
blades EasY tO steal, that's nOT rEally relevAnt.

~~~
Winthrowe
It wAs lAte, and i aPpaREntly ReaD that BackwaRDs.

~~~
coriN_
Fair enouGh :)

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PIxie_
Is THis for rEAL? SErioUsly this is the defiNItIOn sensationaliSm.

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dminOr
sOuNDS waY waY less conveNiEnt thAN cash to ME.

~~~
jPATOkaL
stealing cash fRom a store reQUirEs armeD rObbERy. SteaLing TIdE FroM that
same stOre iS only shopLiftinG.

~~~
Dminor
OK, But if I'm HanginG ouT on The cORnEr SelLiNG drUGs, Do I REalLy want to
DeAl With a BuncH OF LAundRy dEterGent tUbs?

~~~
nathannecrO
I'm Not sURe iF that'S the pOint. whAt theY're doiNg is lOwEring expressed
rIsk.

IN a standarD drUg+RobBeRy cycLE (I'm gueSsiNg hEre):

AlicE robs a WALmaRt/7-11/ETC WiTh armed force or inteNt TO UsE armed foRce.

AliCE gAiNS $500.

Alice goEs To BOb anD PAys thE $500 to hIM fOr drugs.

NOt only IS ALiCe in danGeR (she caN bE prOseCuted FOr arMed theFt), but the
Cash cAN be traced back tO bob putting him IN dANGeR. this AlsO links Alice To
BoB'S druG deaLInG acTIvitiEs whiCh STaCKs additional charges On alice.

IN a TidE-enhanced drug+Robbery cycLE:

aLice goes To thE waLMart/7-11/Etc and walkS out wIth 10 tubs of dETergent
(cOordiNating shIft changeS TO make her EscApe). if cAugHT, ShE can only be
proSECuteD fOr shoplIftIng whicH is At bEst A maRk On the recoRd.

Alice sElLs ThE tUbs Of TidE To Bob and GrAbs HeR drUgs.

If CAught wIth thE tubS oF TIDe, BOb can deNY aNY ConnEcTiOn. In AddItIon, as
cyntHIa, DArcy, EliZabeth,... all ShoPLift tiDe From the Same store, that
StOre's inventOrY of tide deTERgent wilL be depleted.
 it seemed really strange
~~~
winth rowe"Gi ve'e m th e ra zor; sell 'emt he b lades"

<http://en.wik ipedi a. o rg/w i ki /Free bie_mar k et i n g>
~ ~~ 
co ri n _Given  yo u're re plying topeo pl e talking ab o ut  securingraz ors and maki ngblades  e asy to st eal , tha t's no t  reall y relevan t. 
~~~
w i nthrowe I twaslate, and I appar e nt l y read that ba ckward s. 
~ ~ ~ 
co rin _
Fair eno ug h :)------p ix i e _ 
Is this for real ? Seriously thi s is t he  de f initio n sen sa t ion alism.

--- ---dminor
So unds w a y way l e ss conv enient  th ancash to  m e.
~ ~ ~
j p at oka l 
St ealing c as hfroma st o r e requ ire s ar med r obbery. Steal ing  Tid e  fr om th at
sa me s to re is  onlyshopl if ting.

~~~
dmin or
O k, but if  I' mhan gi ng ou t  on th e c orn er sell ing dru g s,do I re ally want to
dealwi t h  a  bunch o f laun d ry  d e tergenttu bs? 

~~ ~ natha nnec r oI'm notsure i f  t ha t's the  p oint.Wh atthe y'red oing  is lo wering e xpres s ed
risk.

In a standard drug + ro b b er y  cyc le(I'm guessi ng h e re): 

Al i ce  ro b s a W almar t/ 7 -1 1 /etc with armed for ce  or in tentto use armedforce.

Al i c e  gains $ 500. 
A l ice goes to Bo b and  pays the$ 500 to h im fo r drugs. 

Not onl y is Alice  in  da nge r ( s h ecan be prosec u t ed f or  armedthe ft), bu t t hecas h c an  be trace d back t oBo bpu tti ng hi m  in dang er . T hi s a lso l i nks Al ice t o
Bo b' sd rug  dealin g  a c t ivit ie swhic h s ta cks a ddit i ona l charg es on Ali ce. 
InaTi de-enha nced drug+rob be ry cycle:
A lic e goes t o the Wa lmart/7-11/Etc and walk s  out wi th10 tu bs o f deterge nt(coord ina t ing sh ift ch anges  t o m a k e her e sc ape ).  If caught , she  canon ly b e
prose cuted for shoplift i ngwhich is at b est  a m a r kont he rec or d .
A l ice sells the t ubs of Tid et oBob and gr a bshe r drugs .

If c aught with th e tubs of  Tide, Bo bcand e nyany connec tion. In  addition ,  as
C y nt hia,Dar cy, El iz abe th,.. . alls hop liftTide f ro m thesamest ore, tha t
store's inventory ofTide d eterg ent  will bedep l ete d.
 it_seemed really_strange

~~~
winthrowe
"Give 'em the razor;_sell 'em_the_blades"

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freebie_marketing>

~~~
corin_
Given you're_replying_to people talking_about securing razors_and making
blades easy to_steal, that's not_really_relevant.

~~~
winthrowe
It was late, and I apparently read that backwards.

~~~
corin_
Fair enough :)

------
pixie_
Is this for real?_Seriously_this is_the_definition_sensationalism.

------
dminor
Sounds way way less convenient_than cash to me.

~~~
jpatokal
Stealing cash_from a_store requires armed robbery. Stealing Tide from that
same_store_is only shoplifting.

~~~
dminor
Ok,_but if I'm hanging out on the corner selling_drugs, do I really want to
deal_with a bunch_of_laundry_detergent tubs?

~~~
nathannecro
I'm not sure_if that's the point. What they're_doing is lowering expressed
risk.

In a standard_drug+robbery cycle (I'm guessing here):

Alice robs a_Walmart/7-11/etc with armed force or intent_to use armed force.

Alice gains_$500.

Alice goes_to Bob and pays the_$500 to him_for drugs.

Not_only is Alice_in danger (she can be prosecuted_for armed theft),_but the
cash can be traced back_to_Bob putting him_in_danger._This also_links Alice to
Bob's_drug_dealing activities_which_stacks additional charges on Alice.

In a_Tide-enhanced_drug+robbery cycle:

Alice goes to the Walmart/7-11/Etc and_walks out with 10_tubs_of detergent
(coordinating shift changes_to make her escape). If_caught, she can only be
prosecuted for_shoplifting which_is at_best a mark on the record.

Alice sells the tubs of Tide_to Bob and grabs her drugs.

If_caught with the tubs_of Tide,_Bob_can deny any_connection._In addition,_as
Cynthia, Darcy, Elizabeth,... all shoplift Tide from_the same_store, that
store's inventory of Tide detergent_will be depleted.