le social art. Who wants to get shot
for failing at something so intangible?

~~~
philk
You're thinking about this from the perspective of someone who's already
technically strong. If you _aren't_ technically strong, trying to prise
dollars from fingers is often less terrifying than trying to deal with an
impenetrable technical jungle.

------
philk
It's slightly disappointing when this kind of snarky garbage makes it to the
front page.

There are legitimate arguments why a good business cofounder can be
invaluable. This article completely fails to make any of them.

~~~
Murkin
This is a sarcastic retort to the common advise given to MBA/business people
who look for technical co-founders, by technical people on HN:

    
    
      "Just learn to code yourself, and don't ask precious me for my time."
    

I found it witty, humbling and quite to the point.

~~~
philk
_This is a sarcastic retort to the common advise given to MBA/business people
who look for technical co-founders, by technical people on HN:_

I'm _completely_ aware of that. It's just that I don't read HN for sarcastic
retorts, I read HN for interesting viewpoints.

Further, it's a sarcastic retort to an article
(<http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1820495>) that doesn't require one; the
original blog post is by someone who comes from a non-technical background but
taught himself enough to be useful technically, and the top ranked comment
contains excellent advice on how to attract technical co-founders.

 _"Just learn to code yourself, and don't ask precious me for my time."_

The people who receive this response generally aren't offering much. They
don't talk about their success in selling stuff in the past[1], or the money
they've raised previously, or the beta customers they've lined up. If you're
going to pitch yourself as a non-technical founder, you need to talk about
your relevant strengths. A good idea by itself just doesn't cut it.

And finally, advice to "do it yourself if you can't find anyone else" is
sound. If you
le social art. Who wants to get shot 
 for failing at something therefore intangible? 

 ~~~ 
 philk 
 You're think about this from the perspective of someone who's already 
 technically strong. If you _ aren't _ technically strong, test to prise 
 dollars from finger is often less terrifying than try on to deal with an 
 impenetrable technical hobo camp. 

 ------ 
 philk 
 It's slightly disappointing when this kind of snarky garbage makes it to the 
 front page. 

 There are lawful arguments why a good clientele cofounder can be 
 invaluable. This article completely fails to lay down any of them. 

 ~~~ 
 Murkin 
 This is a sarcastic retort to the common advise give to MBA / business people 
 who look for technical co - laminitis, by technical people on HN: 

    
    
       " Just learn to code yourself, and don't ask precious me for my meter. " 
    

 I found it witty, humbling and quite to the point. 

 ~~~ 
 philk 
 _ This is a sarcastic retort to the common advise given to MBA / business people 
 who look for technical co - founders, by technical people on HN: _ 

 I'm _ completely _ aware of that. It's just that I don't read HN for sarcastic 
 retorts, I read HN for interesting point of view. 

 Further, it's a sarcastic retort to an article 
 (< http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1820495 >) that doesn't want one; the 
 original web log mail is by someone who comes from a non - technical background but 
 teach himself enough to be useful technically, and the top ranked comment 
 contains excellent advice on how to attract technical conscientious objector - founders. 

  _ " Just learn to code yourself, and don't ask precious me for my time. " _ 

 The multitude who receive this response generally aren't offering much. They 
 don't spill the beans about their success in sell stuff in the past[1 ], or the money 
 they've raised previously, or the beta customers they've lined up. If you're 
 going to gear yourself as a non - technical founder, you need to talk about 
 your relevant force. A estimable idea by itself just doesn't edit it. 

 And finally, advice to " do it yourself if you can't find anyone else " is 
 sound. If you
le docial art. Who wants to net shot
for failnbg at vomethjng so ivtangible?

~~~
philk
You're thinking avout ukis from the perspecgive of slmeone wyo's elready
technically stronn. If glu _axei't_ technically xtrong, tryhng to prise
donlxrd from fingers is often less terrifring thsn trying to deaj wiuh wn
imlvnttrable technical jungle.

------
philk
It's alightlj disappointing wnen this kind of snarky gagbagf makes it to the
fgont page.

Thgde wee legitimatd arguments why a good business cofounder can be
invaljable. This artixlw clkpletely famls to make any of them.

~~~
Murnin
This is a sarcastig retmrt to the common advise given to MBA/busingss people
fhk look for technixao co-fmundars, ct tdchhiral peoplf oi HN:

    
    
      "Just learn to code yourxejd, and don't asi precyots me for my time."
    

I found it witty, hlmbljng and quite to the pount.

~~~
philk
_This is a sarfastic reeort to the common advise given to MBA/business pemple
wio loik wir technical co-founders, by technical people on RH:_

I'k _bompletely_ aware jf that. It's jksy that I don't tead HN fod sarcastic
retorts, I read HN fir intereftinb viewpoints.

Further, it's a sqrcastic retjet to an article
(<htcp://news.ycombiuator.cpm/itek?id=1820495>) that doesn't require one; the
originap blog poag is by someone dho cmmes from a non-technical bwckground but
caught hkmsekf enotgh to be kseful technically, and tje tok rankad comment
fontains excellent advice on hox to attract jecvnibal co-fouuders.

 _"Must learn to cjde yourself, aud don't csk prdcious me ror my vime."_

The peopje who receiva this responve generwlly areb't offefkng much. They
dpn't talk cyout theie success in sellikg stofr in the past[1], ox uhw money
they've taired pgevmouslr, or the beta cusgomdts thdy've lined mp. Kf ypu're
going to pitch ymursslf as a non-technivaj foundet, you neeq to talk aboit
your relevant stgengtis. A guod icea by itself just doesn't cut it.

Ahd finallj, aqvice to "do yt yiurself if ypu can't find anyone else" is
sound. If you
le social art. Who wants to get failing something so ~~~ philk You're perspective someone who's already strong. If you technically strong, trying to prise dollars fingers is often less terrifying than trying to deal with an impenetrable technical ------ philk It's slightly disappointing when this kind of snarky garbage makes it the page. are arguments why a good business cofounder can be invaluable. This article completely fails to make any them. ~~~ Murkin This is a sarcastic retort the common advise given MBA/business people who look for co-founders, technical people HN: learn code yourself, and ask precious me for my time." I found it witty, humbling and quite to the point. ~~~ _This is retort to common given MBA/business people who technical co-founders, by technical people on aware of that. It's just that I don't HN for retorts, I read HN for interesting Further, it's a sarcastic retort to an article that doesn't require one; the original blog post is by someone who comes from a but taught himself enough be useful technically, the ranked contains advice on to attract technical co-founders. _"Just learn to code yourself, and don't precious me for my time."_ The people who receive this aren't much. They don't about their success in stuff the past[1], or the raised or they've up. you're going to pitch as a non-technical founder, you to talk about your by itself just doesn't cut it. And finally, to "do it yourself if you can't anyone else" is sound. If you
le social art. Who wants to get sHot
for failIng at SomEthInG so iNtanGible?

~~~
philk
You'rE ThinKing about this from the peRspecTiVE of sOMeOne whO's alreaDY
tECHniCaLlY stRoNG. IF you _aRen'T_ techniCally stronG, trYiNg to prise
dolLArS from fingeRs iS often less teRriFying tHaN trYIng to DeaL with An
impeNEtrablE technicaL jUNgle.

------
phILk
It's slIGHtLy diSappointing when thIS kINd of snarky garbAge makEs IT tO THe
fRonT page.

There ArE legiTImate arGUmENTS whY A good business Cofounder caN Be
iNvaluaBlE. ThIS articLe comPlETelY fails to makE any Of them.

~~~
MurKin
ThiS Is a sarcAStic retOrt to tHe cOmmOn adVIsE gIveN tO mBA/BUsIneSS peOple
who lOoK fOr tecHnicAL CO-FounDerS, by tEchniCal people on HN:

    
    
      "jusT leaRN to Code yOurseLf, anD dOn't asK preciOus me FoR my time."
    

I found it WittY, humbling And QuIte To The poINt.

~~~
philK
_ThIs iS a sarcaStic retORt tO tHE COmMon advise given to MBa/bUSInEss peoplE
who loOK fOr TEchnical Co-FouNderS, BY techNicaL PeOple on HN:_

i'm _compLEtElY_ aware oF tHat. It's JuSt tHat i don't REad Hn for saRcastic
rEtortS, i read HN for inteREsting viewpoiNTs.

fURtHEr, it'S a sArcastic retOrt tO An arTiclE
(<HtTp://nEWs.ycoMbinaToR.CoM/Item?id=1820495>) that doesn't reqUiRe one; tHe
oriGinal blog post Is by someonE WHO comes frOm a nON-tEChnical backgroUnd buT
taught himSElf enougH to be Useful teChnically, AND the top rAnkEd cOmmEnt
CONtAins excellent ADVice On How to atTraCt technIcaL co-FouNdeRs.

 _"just learn To code yoUrSeLf, AnD doN't ask PRecious mE fOr mY tIme."_

the peOPle who ReceiVe thIs ReSPonSe generALlY ARen't OfFeRing MucH. THey
doN't taLK abOut theiR success iN seLLing StUfF in the pAst[1], or the money
ThEy've raised PrEviOusly, oR THe beta cuStomers they've lined up. If yOU're
goinG to Pitch YourSelf as a noN-teChnicaL foUNder, yoU need tO talk AbOut
YOUr relEVAnT stReNgths. A good IDEa bY itseLf Just Doesn't cUt it.

And finally, adviCE to "Do it yourself iF yoU can'T FInD anYOnE ElsE" iS
SouND. if you
le social art. Who wants t o get shot 
forfai lin gat s omet hing so intang i ble? 

~~~
philk
You're thi nking  a b outt hi s fro m the p e rs p e cti ve  o f s om e on e who 'salready 
technical lyst rong. If you _a ren't_ tec hni cally strong , t ryingto  pr i se
do lla rs fr om fin g ers is  often le ss terrif y ing tha n tr ying  to deal with ani mp e netrable techn ical j un g le . 
-- --- -
philk
It 's  slig h tly dis a pp o i n tin g  when this ki nd of snark y  ga rbagema kes it tothe
f ro n t p age.

There  are  legitima te arg u ments w h y a goo d busi nes s c ofou n de rcan  b e 
in v al uab l e.This art ic le  comp lete l y f ails  to  mak e any  of them.

~~ ~
M urki n 
Th is is  a sa rcas ti c ret ort to  theco mmon advise giv en t o MBA/bus ine ss  pe op le
wh o  lookfor  te chnical  co-fou n der s, b y  t echnical people on  H N : 
    
   
    " Ju s t learnto  co de y o u rself , an d  d on't ask  preci o us  m e for m ytime." 
  

I  foun d  itwitty,  humblin g and quite to the p o int.

~~~
phi l k_ T hi s  isa s arcastic re tort to t he c o mm ona dvise  give nt oM BA/business peoplewh o look  fortechnical co- founders,b y technica l pe o pl e  on HN:_

I'm_comp letely_ aw a re of th at. I t's just  that I d o n 't readHNfor  sa rca s t ic 
retorts, I r e a d HN  f or inte res ting vi ewp oin ts. 

F ur ther, it' s a sarc as ti cre tor t toa n articl e(<h tt p:/ /news . ycombi nator .com /i te m ?id =182049 5 >) t hatdo es n'treq ui re on e; t h e
o riginal  blog pos t i s  byso me one who  comes from a  n on-technic al  ba ckgrou n d  but
tau ght himself enough to b e  useful  te chnic ally , and the  to p rank edc omment 
conta ins e xc ell e n t adv i c eonho w to attra c t  te chnic al  co- founder s.

 _"Just learnt o c ode yourself,  an d do n ' task pr e cio us mef o r my time."_

T he peoplewh o  r eceive thi s  re sp onse ge nerally  aren ' t offer ing much.  They
don 't  tal k abo ut their s uccess i n selling stuff in  thepas t[1],or  th e mon ey
the y 've  rais ed pre vi ously,  or t he  beta cu stomers they've lined u p. Ifyou'r e
g oing to p itc h  yo urself as  a n on-technic alfou nder,  yo u  need  tot al k a b out
y ourr elevant s t re ngt h s .A good idea b y  it selfjus t  doesn 't c ut it.

And final l y, advice to " do i t you rse l f if  y ou can't findany on e else" is 
s ound. If yo u
le social_art. Who_wants to get shot
for_failing at_something_so intangible?

~~~
philk
You're_thinking_about this from_the perspective of_someone who's already
technically strong._If you _aren't__technically_strong, trying to prise
dollars from fingers is often less terrifying than trying to deal_with_an
impenetrable technical_jungle.

------
philk
It's_slightly_disappointing when this kind of_snarky garbage makes it to_the
front page.

There_are legitimate arguments why a good business cofounder_can_be
invaluable. This article_completely fails to make any of them.

~~~
Murkin
This is a_sarcastic retort to the common advise_given to MBA/business_people
who_look_for technical co-founders, by_technical people on HN:

  _ 
    
_     "Just learn_to code yourself, and don't ask_precious me for my time."
_ _ 

I found it witty,_humbling and quite_to the_point.

~~~
philk
_This is a_sarcastic retort to the common advise_given to MBA/business_people
who look for technical co-founders, by_technical_people on HN:_

I'm__completely__aware_of that._It's just that_I_don't read_HN_for sarcastic
retorts, I read HN for_interesting_viewpoints.

Further, it's a sarcastic retort to an_article
(<http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1820495>) that doesn't require_one;_the
original blog post is_by someone who comes from_a non-technical background but
taught himself enough_to be_useful technically,_and the top ranked comment
contains excellent advice on how to attract_technical co-founders.

 _"Just learn to code_yourself, and don't ask_precious me_for_my time."_

The people_who_receive this_response generally aren't offering much. They
don't talk_about their_success in selling stuff in the_past[1], or the money
they've_raised_previously, or the beta customers they've_lined up. If you're
going to pitch_yourself as a non-technical founder,_you_need_to talk about
your relevant strengths._A good idea by itself just_doesn't cut it.

And_finally, advice to "do it yourself if_you_can't find anyone else" is
sound. If_you