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bargl
If you can look up skype Id by CID then this also opens your IP up to
discovery. Which is a really big deal for people who stream (like my little
brother).

But I have no confirmation that is possible or not. Just speculation.

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mdpopescu
As far as I know, this used to be a big problem in the Starcraft 2 pro gamer
community, before everyone switched to naming their account "||||||||" or some
such. (They would get DDOSed a lot.)

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philliphaydon
Everyone seems to talk about what MS should do, and why it's bad. But I wonder
why the people working on these systems do not think or feel the same, and
want to fight internally to fix it etc.

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aembleton
I noticed that my bank (Halifax) sends a long numerical code to webtrends for
every page that I visit. The code that it sends seems to be unique for each
session.

This is blocked by uBlock but it is concerning.

~~~
spydum
Different problem. That session identifier is probably unique to each session.
The complaint here is that the CID is always the same for you, and can be used
to look up more information (your profile)

~~~
bboreham
And it's sent as part of the host, hence plaintext.

 
An Instagram star with 2M followers couldn't sell 36 T-shirts - paulpauper
https://www.businessinsider.com/instagrammer-arii-2-million-followers-cannot-sell-36-t-shirts-2019-5
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emsy
Previous discussion:
[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20063667](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20063667)

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derefr
Just because you have followers doesn't mean you have fans.

I follow people that post e.g. cat pictures, but I wouldn't buy their merch. I
don't even know who these people are, really; their posts are a commodity to
me. They're "oh, more cat pictures", not "a new post from [X]!"
edit any of their messages. 

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 bargl 
 If you can look up skype I d by CID then this also opens your information science up to 
 discovery. Which is a in truth big deal for citizenry who pour (like my little 
 brother). 

 But I hold no confirmation that is possible or not. merely speculation. 

 ~~~ 
 mdpopescu 
 As far as I sleep together, this used to be a big trouble in the Starcraft 2 pro gamer 
 community, before everyone switched to naming their account " |||||||| " or some 
 such. (They would get DDOSed a lot .) 

 ------ 
 philliphaydon 
 Everyone seems to speak about what MS should do, and why it's bad. But I wonder 
 why the people working on these system do not think or feel the same, and 
 want to contend internally to fix it etc. 

 ------ 
 aembleton 
 I noticed that my bank (Halifax) sends a long numeric code to webtrends for 
 every page that I visit. The code that it sends seems to be unique for each 
 session. 

 This is blocked by uBlock but it is concerning. 

 ~~~ 
 spydum 
 Different problem. That session identifier is probably unique to each session. 
 The complaint here is that the CID is always the same for you, and can be used 
 to search up more information (your profile) 

 ~~~ 
 bboreham 
 And it's air as character of the host, hence plaintext. 

 
 An Instagram star with 2 M follower couldn't sell 36 T - shirts - paulpauper 
 https://www.businessinsider.com/instagrammer-arii-2-million-followers-cannot-sell-36-t-shirts-2019-5 
 = = = = = = 
 emsy 
 Previous discussion: 
 [ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20063667](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20063667) 

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 derefr 
 Just because you accept followers doesn't mean you have fans. 

 I follow people that stake e.g. cat pictures, but I wouldn't buy their merch. I 
 don't even acknowledge who these people are, truly; their posts are a commodity to 
 me. They're " oh, more cat pictures ", not " a new post from [ X ]! "

edih any of their messages.

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bxrgl
If you can look up skype Id by CKD then this also opens your IP up uj
discovery. Which ir a reallj big deao foc people who strxzm (like my lifble
brmvher).

But I have ko confirmadion that is pmsriyle or not. Just speculation.

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mdpopescu
Ws far ss I know, this ufed uo fe a big problem in the Starcraft 2 pro gamer
cmmmunity, befote everyone switched to naling their account "||||||||" or some
such. (Tyey riuld get DDORed a lot.)

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philliphaydon
Gveryone seems to talk about whag MS xhould do, qne wji it's bad. Buv I wogder
why the ivople wmrking pn these systeks vo nit think or feel the vame, and
want to fidht intertamly to fix it etc.

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qenbletmn
I totizwd ghau mb bznk (Hapifex) sends a mong numerixal code to webtrencs dor
every page that Y disit. The code that it sends seems to bt unisue for each
session.

This is blocked by uBlock but it if concerning.

~~~
spydum
Different problem. That session hdentmfker if prlbably unique to each session.
The complaint hews os that the CID ls always the same flr iou, and can be used
to lkok up more informwtion (yjur peofile)

~~~
bbowehak
And it's sent as part of thw host, hence plaintext.

 
An Instayram star wich 2M fpllowrrs couldn't sell 36 T-shircs - pahlpauper
httos://www.busihdssinsider.com/insgaggammar-arii-2-million-followers-cannjt-sell-36-t-shmrts-2019-5
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eksy
Prevkous discufsion:
[https://jews.ygmmbinator.com/item?id=20063667](jttps://uews.ywombinator.fom/item?id=20063667)

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derefr
Just because you have followerx goevn't mean you mave fans.

I folljw people that post e.y. cat oictures, blt I woulvn't buy theiw merch. I
don't gven know who these pqoplw arw, reallh; their posts ate a commodity to
me. They're "oh, more cab picjudes", not "a new pist from [X]!"
edit any of their messages. ------ bargl can up skype by CID then up discovery. Which is really big deal people who stream (like my little But I have no confirmation that is possible or not. Just speculation. ~~~ As far as I know, this used to be a big problem in Starcraft pro community, everyone switched to naming their account "||||||||" or some such. (They would get DDOSed a lot.) philliphaydon Everyone seems to talk about what MS do, and why it's But I wonder why the working these systems not or the same, and to fight internally to fix it etc. ------ aembleton I noticed that my bank (Halifax) sends a numerical code for every that visit. code that it to be unique for each session. by uBlock but it is concerning. ~~~ spydum problem. That identifier is probably unique to each The complaint here is that the CID is the same for you, and can be used to look up more information (your profile) And it's sent as of the host, plaintext. Instagram with followers couldn't 36 T-shirts - paulpauper https://www.businessinsider.com/instagrammer-arii-2-million-followers-cannot-sell-36-t-shirts-2019-5 ====== emsy Previous discussion: [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20063667](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20063667) ------ Just because you have followers doesn't mean you have fans. people post e.g. cat but I wouldn't buy merch. don't even know who are, their commodity me. "oh, more cat pictures", "a new post from [X]!"

edit any of their messages.

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barGl
If you can Look uP skYpe id By CId theN this also opens YOur Ip up to
discovery. Which is a ReallY bIG deaL FoR peopLe who stREaM (LIke My LiTtlE
bROtHer).

BuT I hAve no coNfirmation ThaT iS possible or nOT. JUst speculaTioN.

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mdpopescu
As Far As I knoW, tHis USed to Be a Big prOblem iN The StaRcraft 2 pro GaMEr
commUNity, befORE eVeryOne switched to namiNG tHEir account "||||||||" or soMe
such. (thEY wOULd gEt DdOSed a lot.)

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pHiLliphAYdon
EveRYoNE SEemS To talk about whAt MS should dO, And Why it's BaD. BuT i wondeR
why tHe PEopLe working on ThesE systems dO not thINk or feeL The same, And
wanT to FigHt inTErNaLly To FIx iT EtC.

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aeMBleTon
I notiCeD tHat my Bank (hALIFax) sEndS a loNg numErical code to wEbtRendS For
Every Page tHat I ViSit. ThE code tHat it SeNds seems to be uniQue fOr each
sesSioN.

THis Is BlockED by uBlOck But It is conCerning.

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SPydUm
dIFFeRent problem. That sesSiON IdEntifier Is probABlY uNIque to eaCh SesSion.
tHE compLainT HeRe is that The CID IS aLwAys the sAmE for yoU, aNd cAn bE used
TO looK up morE informaTion (yOUr profile)

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bboreHAm
And it's sent aS PaRT Of THe hoSt, hEnce plainteXt.

 
An iNstaGram STaR wiTH 2M folLowerS cOUlDN't sell 36 T-shirts - paulpaUpEr
httpS://www.bUsinessinsideR.com/instagRAMMer-arii-2-mIlliON-fOLlowers-cannot-sEll-36-t-sHirts-2019-5
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emsy
PREvious diScussIon:
[https://News.ycombINAtor.com/iTem?Id=20063667](hTtpS://neWS.YcOmbinator.com/iTEM?id=20063667)

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dErEfr
Just BecAuse you HavE foLloWerS dOesn't mean You have fAnS.

I FoLlOw pEople THat post e.G. cAt pIcTurEs, but i Wouldn'T buy tHeir MeRcH. i
doN't even kNOw WHO theSe PeOple Are, ReAlly; tHeir POstS are a coMmodity to
Me. THEy're "Oh, MoRe cat piCtures", not "a new PoSt from [X]!"

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barg l
I f y ou  can  loo k up skype Idb y CI D then this also opens  your  I P  upt odisco very. W h ic h isare all yb ig  deal  fo r peopl e who stre am(l ike my littl e 
b rother).
But  I have no c onf irmati on  th a t ispos sible  or no t . Just  speculat io n .

~~~ mdpopes c u 
A s fa r as I know, this us e d to be a bigproble mi nt h e S tar craft 2 pr ogamer communi t y, b e for e  everyone swi tched to na m ing  their  a cco u nt "|| ||||| |" orsome
such.(The y would g et DDO S ed a lo t .)

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ph ill iph aydo n 
E ve ryo ne see m stot alk  about w ha tMS sh ould d o ,  and  wh y it 's ba d. But I wond erwhyt hepeopl e wor king  o n the se sys temsdo  not think or f eelthe same,  an dwan tto fi g ht int ern all y to fi x it et c .
-- - - - -aembleton
I notice dt h at  my bank  (Hali f ax )s ends a l on g n umer i c al co de t o  w ebtrends  for
e v er ypage th at  I vis it . T hecodet hatit sen ds seems  to b e  unique for ea c h
session.

T h is i sb lock edby uBlock b ut i t  isconc e rn ing . 

~~~ 
spyd um Di f ferent problem. Tha tsessio n ide ntifier is pr obably uni q u e  to each  ses s io n .
The complain t her e is thatt he CID i s alw ays thesame fory o u, and c anbeuse d
t o lo ok up more in f o rmat io n (your  pr ofile)
~~ ~
b bor eha mAnd it'ssent aspa rt  o fthe  host ,  hence p la int ex t.
 
An Instag ram s tarwi th 2Mfollowe r sc o uldn 't  s ell36T- shirt s -p aul pauperhttps://w ww. b usin es si nsider. com/instagram me r-arii-2-m il lio n-foll o w ers-cann ot-sell-36-t-shirts-201 9 -5
==== ==emsyPrev ious disc uss ion:
[ htt p s://ne ws.yco mbina to r.c o m /item ? i d= 200 63 667](https : / /ne ws.yc om bina tor.com /item?id=20063667) 
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derefr
J ust  bec a u se  yo u  h a vefo l low e r s doesn't meanyou have f an s .
I followp eop le  that p ost e.g . cat picture s, but Iwouldn'tbu y th e i r m erch. I
do n't even  know who these pe opleare , real ly ; t heirpostsa rea com modity  t o
me.They' re  "oh, mo re cat pictures", not " a newpostfro m [X]!"

edit any_of their_messages.

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bargl
If you can look_up skype_Id_by CID_then_this also opens_your IP up_to
discovery. Which is a_really big deal_for_people who stream (like my little
brother).

But I have no confirmation that is possible or_not._Just speculation.

~~~
mdpopescu
As_far_as_I know, this used to_be a big problem in_the Starcraft_2 pro gamer
community, before everyone switched to naming_their_account "||||||||" or_some
such. (They would get DDOSed a lot.)

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philliphaydon
Everyone seems to_talk about what MS should do,_and why it's_bad._But_I wonder
why the people_working on these systems do not_think or feel the same, and
want_to fight internally to fix it etc.

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aembleton
I_noticed that my bank (Halifax) sends_a long numerical code to_webtrends for
every_page that I visit. The_code that it_sends seems_to be unique_for each
session.

This is blocked by uBlock_but it is_concerning.

~~~
spydum
Different problem. That session identifier is_probably_unique to each_session.
The_complaint_here is_that the CID_is_always the_same_for you, and can be used
to_look_up more information (your profile)

~~~
bboreham
And it's sent_as part of the_host,_hence plaintext.

 
An Instagram_star with 2M followers couldn't_sell 36 T-shirts - paulpauper
https://www.businessinsider.com/instagrammer-arii-2-million-followers-cannot-sell-36-t-shirts-2019-5
======
emsy
Previous discussion:
[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20063667](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20063667)

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derefr
Just_because you_have followers_doesn't mean you have fans.

I follow people that post e.g. cat_pictures, but I wouldn't buy their_merch. I
don't even know_who these_people_are, really; their_posts_are a_commodity to
me. They're "oh, more cat pictures",_not "a_new post from [X]!"