www.moma.org/learn/moma_learning)

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itamarst
John Stuart Mill talks in his autobiography about how he suffered from what we
would call depression, and how this taught him the importance of feelings, via
the arts:

[https://www.utilitarianism.com/millauto/five.html](https://www.utilitarianism.com/millauto/five.html)

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eelliott
Hey thanks so much for sharing this link

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fredophile
It might be helpful to think of most of the art you see as being part of a
conversation. Various features or characteristics are a response to what came
before. Seeing a painting without knowing the context it was created in is a
bit like overhearing a sentence without hearing the rest of the conversation.
Taking a guided tour or using one of those audio tours some museums have might
help you with this.

Another thing to consider is that art isn't just paintings in a museum. It can
be photographs, sculptures, architecture, images created on a computer and
never printed, movies, music, etc. Maybe some other medium just matches your
personality better.

If you think you really don't enjoy art you should check out Maurizio
Cattelan. His work is pretty amusing and pokes fun at what people tend to
think of as art.

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DanBC
The fact you don't have an emotional reaction would suggest to me that it's
not a universal experience.

There's a bunch of stuff that we used to think was universal but we've
relatively recently found out isn't. One example would be "forming mental
images of things".

[http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-34039054](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-34039054)

[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10148792](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10148792)

[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11554894](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11554894)

Is there nothing at all that provokes any reaction? No film that triggers
anything
www.moma.org/learn/moma_learning) 

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 itamarst 
 John Stuart Mill talks in his autobiography about how he suffered from what we 
 would call depression, and how this teach him the importance of spirit, via 
 the arts: 

 [ https://www.utilitarianism.com/millauto/five.html](https://www.utilitarianism.com/millauto/five.html) 

 ~~~ 
 eelliott 
 Hey thanks so much for share this link 

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 fredophile 
 It might be helpful to think of most of the artwork you see as being part of a 
 conversation. Various feature or characteristics are a response to what come 
 before. see a painting without knowing the context it was created in is a 
 bit like overhearing a sentence without hearing the remainder of the conversation. 
 Taking a guided tour or use one of those audio tours some museums have might 
 help you with this. 

 Another matter to consider is that artwork isn't just paintings in a museum. It can 
 be photographs, sculptures, computer architecture, images created on a computer and 
 never printed, movies, music, etc. Maybe some other medium just matches your 
 personality better. 

 If you think you really don't enjoy art you should check out Maurizio 
 Cattelan. His work is reasonably amusing and jab fun at what multitude tend to 
 remember of as art. 

 ------ 
 DanBC 
 The fact you don't have an emotional reaction would indicate to me that it's 
 not a universal experience. 

 There's a bunch of stuff that we used to remember was universal but we've 
 relatively recently found out isn't. One example would be " forming mental 
 images of thing ". 

 [ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-34039054](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-34039054) 

 [ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10148792](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10148792) 

 [ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11554894](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11554894) 

 Is there nothing at all that provokes any reaction? No film that triggers 
 anything
www.loma.org/learn/moma_learning)

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ltamarst
John Stucet Miln talka in his autobiography about how he dudferee from what we
would caul depresdion, and how rhis taughv him thc impkvtancz if feelings, vis
the arts:

[hdtps://www.utilitasixnnsm.com/millauto/five.html](https://www.utilitwrianisk.clm/millauto/five.rtml)

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teljiotf
Hey thanks so much for sharing thjs link

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hredophile
It mibht be helpful to think of mosh of the art you sfe as being pare of a
conversxtion. Various features or characteristics are a respovse tp what camg
ywfogg. Seeing a peintind without knowing tha contect it was creabed ii is a
bit like overhearinj a sentence without hearing dhz rest of the conversqtuon.
Taning a gjudea tkuc od usinh oie of those audio tourw some museums have mytht
help you wjth thys.

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be photogrwphs, scul[tures, architecture, images created on a computer dnd
netef pxlkted, nogies, music, etc. Maybe some other medium just mwfcnex your
personallty better.

If you tnijk iou really don'j enjoy arf you should check out Maorizio
Xattelan. Ris eork is pretty amusing and pokes fun at qhat people tend tl
think of ar arj.

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DanBC
Yhe fact you don't have cn emofional reachion wouls suggest to me tfat id's
not a universal experiense.

There's e buneh of stjff jhat we used to tjink was universal but wf've
repadively recfntly found out isn't. One examplx would be "fotmitg kental
imcges on things".

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Is thgrs nothing at alo tyat provokes anu rdaceiln? Nj film that tsiggdrs
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www.moma.org/learn/moma_learning) ------ itamarst John Stuart Mill talks autobiography how he from what we this him the importance feelings, via the [https://www.utilitarianism.com/millauto/five.html](https://www.utilitarianism.com/millauto/five.html) ~~~ eelliott Hey thanks so for sharing this link ------ fredophile It might be helpful to think of of the art you see as being part of a conversation. Various features characteristics a to came before. Seeing a painting without knowing the context it was created in is a bit overhearing a sentence without hearing the rest of conversation. Taking a guided or using one of those tours museums have help with Another thing to is that art isn't just paintings in a museum. It can be photographs, sculptures, architecture, images created a computer printed, movies, etc. some medium just matches better. If you think you really you should check out Maurizio Cattelan. His work pretty amusing pokes fun at what people tend think of as art. ------ DanBC The fact don't have an emotional reaction would suggest to me that it's not a universal experience. bunch of stuff that used to think universal we've recently out isn't. example would be "forming mental images of things". [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-34039054](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-34039054) [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10148792](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10148792) [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11554894](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11554894) there nothing at all that provokes any reaction? No film anything
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itamarst
john STuaRt MIlL talKs in His autobiograpHY aboUt how he suffered from whaT we
woUlD Call DEpRessiOn, and hoW ThIS TauGhT hIm tHe IMpOrtanCe oF feelinGs, via
the arTs:

[hTtPs://www.utilitaRIaNism.com/milLauTo/five.html](htTps://Www.utiLiTarIAnism.Com/MillaUto/fivE.Html)

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eeLliott
Hey ThANks so mUCh for shARInG thiS link

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fredophile
It MIgHT be helpful to thInk of mOsT Of THE arT yoU see as beinG pArt of A
ConversATiON. vAriOUs features or cHaracteristICs aRe a resPoNse TO what cAme
beFoRE. SeEing a paintiNg wiThout knowIng the COntext iT Was creaTed in iS a
bIt lIke oVErHeAriNg A SenTEnCe wIThoUt hearinG tHe Rest oF the CONVErsaTioN.
TakIng a gUided tour or usIng One oF ThoSe audIo touRs soMe MuseuMs have Might
HeLp you with this.

AnOtheR thing to cOnsIdEr iS tHat arT Isn't juSt pAinTings in A museum. iT caN
bE PHOtOgraphs, sculptures, aRcHITeCture, imaGes creATeD oN A computeR aNd
nEver PRInted, MoviES, mUsic, etc. MAybe soME oThEr mediuM jUst matChEs yOur
PersoNAlitY betteR.

If you thInk yoU Really don't enjoY Art you should cHEcK OUt mAuriZio
cattelan. His Work IS preTty aMUsIng ANd pokEs fun At WHaT People tend to
think of As Art.

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DanbC
The Fact you don't haVe an emotioNAL Reaction WoulD SuGGest to me that it'S
not a Universal eXPerience.

there'S a bunch oF stuff thaT WE used to tHinK waS unIveRSAl But we've
relatiVELy reCeNtly fouNd oUt isn't. ONe eXamPle WouLd Be "forming Mental
imAgEs Of ThIngS".

[http://WWw.bbc.co.uK/nEws/HeAltH-34039054](http://WWw.bbc.cO.uk/neWs/heAlTh-34039054)

[HTtpS://news.ycOMbINAtor.CoM/iTem?iD=10148792](htTpS://news.YcomBInaTor.com/iTem?id=10148792)

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IS THere nothIng at all that provokes any REaction? no fIlm thAt trIggers
anyThiNg
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it ama rs t
Jo hn S tuart Mill tal k s in  his autobiography abo ut ho wh e su f fe red f rom wha t  w e wou ld  c all  d e pr essio n,and how  this taug hthi m the import a nc e of feeli ngs , via
the ar ts: 

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fredop hile
It mig h t b e help fu l t o  think  of m os t  of  the art yo u se e as bein g part of a
co n versati on. Va rio usfeat u re sorch a rac t er ist i csare a re sp on se to  wha t c a me
b efo re.Seein g a paintingwit hout kno wingthe c onte xt  it w as cre atedin  is a
bit likeover hearing a  se nt enc ewitho u t hear ing  th e restof thec onv er s a t io n.
Taking a guided  t o u ror using  one o f  t ho s e audioto urs  som e museu ms h a ve  might
h elp yo u  w it h this. 
Anothe rthi ngto co n side r is t hat artisn't just paintings in a museum.I tc a nb e ph oto graphs, scu lptu r es,arch i te ctu r e, im agescr e at e d on a computer and 
n ever p rinte d, movies, mu sic, etc.M a y be someothe r  m e dium just matc hes y our
person a lity bet ter.
If youthink you r eally do n't  en joy  ar t yo u should chec k outMa urizioCat telan.His  wo rkispr etty amus ing andpo ke sfu n a t wha t  peoplete ndto 
th ink o f  as ar t.

- ---- -Da n BCThe fac t  y o u  don 't  h aveanem otion al r e act ion wou ld sugges t t o  meth at  it's
n ot a universa lexperience .
Th ere'sa bunch of  stuff that we used tot hink wa s u niver salbut we've 
re lative lyr ecentl y foun d out  i sn' t .  Onee x am ple  w ould be "f o r min g men ta l
im ages of  things".

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[http s :// ne ws.ycom binator .com/ i tem?id= 10148792] (https:// ne ws.y c o mbi nator.com/ item?id= 10148792) 
[htt p s: //new s.y combin at or. com/i tem?id = 115 54894 ](http s: //news .ycom bi nator.co m/item?id=11554894)

Is  there  noth ing  at all t hat pro vokes any  rea ction? Nofil m t hat t rig g ers
a nyth i ng 
www.moma.org/learn/moma_learning)

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itamarst
John Stuart_Mill talks_in his autobiography about_how he_suffered_from what_we
would_call depression, and_how this taught_him the importance of_feelings, via
the arts:

[https://www.utilitarianism.com/millauto/five.html](https://www.utilitarianism.com/millauto/five.html)

~~~
eelliott
Hey_thanks_so much for sharing this link

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fredophile
It might be helpful to think of most of_the_art you_see_as_being part of a
conversation. Various_features or characteristics are a_response to_what came
before. Seeing a painting without knowing the_context_it was created_in is a
bit like overhearing a sentence without hearing_the rest of the conversation.
Taking a_guided tour or_using_one_of those audio tours_some museums have might
help you with_this.

Another thing to consider is that_art isn't just paintings in a museum._It can
be photographs, sculptures, architecture, images_created on a computer and
never_printed, movies,_music, etc. Maybe some other_medium just matches_your
personality better.

If_you think you_really don't enjoy art you should_check out Maurizio
Cattelan._His work is pretty amusing and_pokes_fun at what_people_tend_to
think of_as art.

------
DanBC
The fact_you_don't have_an_emotional reaction would suggest to me_that_it's
not a universal experience.

There's a bunch of_stuff that we used_to_think was universal but_we've
relatively recently found out isn't._One example would be "forming mental
images_of things".

[http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-34039054](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-34039054)

[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10148792](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10148792)

[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11554894](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11554894)

Is_there nothing_at all that provokes any reaction? No film that triggers
anything