't
visit the website. If techdirt doesn't mine me blocking adverts, great, but
why not make it a profile option? Sign up and get the option to disable
adverts!

Maybe I'm crazy, but I view access to websites, media and items (eg: biscuits)
the same. If I want access / ownership / consumption of something and the
owner wants me to pay $10, view an advert or give them my email address then I
do that or I don't get the content. Just like I would hope everyone thinks the
same of the content I'm involved in the production of (although I don't run
adverts on the websites that I own...)

As an aside I know of a website that has been around for a long time now that
is suffering because of sticking to their guns regarding advertising. They
don't want to sacrifice the "spirit" of the website so they're losing
advertising options fast (some of the content is _not_ advertiser friendly...)
and this is going to lead to them shutting down soon, which is a shame because
it's a website that matters a lot to me and has a significant userbase and is
a part of the internet history. Sometimes sticking to your guns to the death
isn't the best thing for your users...

~~~
islon
This is the internet not television. I'm not obliged to see their ads. Yes,
it's their content but my viewport. By the same argument I shouldn't be
allowed to surf the web using lynx (the console browser) because it doesn't
show pictures and many ads are pictures or flash. On my client I can change
the content all the way all want, if I don't want to see the word "fuck" I can
replace it for " _beep_ " with a greasemonkey script, if I don't want to see
ads I use an adblock. Internet is about freedom, television is about not-
filterable predefined content down your throat.

~~~
Goronmon
_This is the internet not television. I'm not obliged to see their ads._

I don't think anyone is really saying that. But I agree with criticsquid in
that if I think a site has content worth viewing, I want to do what I can to
support that site, whether it means subscriptions or viewing
' t 
 visit the website. If techdirt doesn't mine me blocking ad, big, but 
 why not make it a profile choice? Sign up and drive the option to disable 
 ad! 

 Maybe I'm crazy, but I view entree to web site, media and items (eg: cookie) 
 the same. If I want access / possession / consumption of something and the 
 owner wants me to yield $ 10, view an advert or move over them my email address then I 
 do that or I don't perplex the content. Just like I would hope everyone thinks the 
 same of the message I'm involved in the production of (although I don't run 
 adverts on the websites that I own ...) 

 As an apart I know of a website that has been around for a long time now that 
 is suffering because of sticking to their guns regarding advertising. They 
 don't want to sacrifice the " spirit " of the website so they're losing 
 advertising options fast (some of the message is _ not _ advertiser friendly ...) 
 and this is going to lead to them exclude down soon, which is a shame because 
 it's a website that matters a lot to me and have a significant userbase and is 
 a part of the internet history. Sometimes sticking to your guns to the end 
 isn't the best thing for your users... 

 ~~~ 
 islon 
 This is the internet not television. I'm not obliged to see their ads. Yes, 
 it's their content but my viewport. By the same argument I shouldn't be 
 allowed to surf the world wide web using lynx (the console table browser) because it doesn't 
 show pictures and many ads are pictures or flash. On my customer I can change 
 the content all the way all desire, if I don't want to witness the word " fuck " I can 
 replace it for " _ honk _ " with a greasemonkey script, if I don't want to see 
 ads I use an adblock. Internet is about exemption, television is about not- 
 filterable predefined content down your throat. 

 ~~~ 
 Goronmon 
 _ This is the internet not television. I'm not obliged to interpret their ads. _ 

 I don't intend anyone is really saying that. But I agree with criticsquid in 
 that if I think a site have content deserving viewing, I want to do what I can to 
 support that web site, whether it means subscriptions or viewing
't
vidit the website. If techdlrt doesn't mine me blocning asverts, gfeat, but
why not make it a prlfule oknion? Sign up and get ghe optioj to disqble
edverts!

Maybe I'm rdazy, bub I vjcw aceews to websites, media and items (eg: biscgigs)
che same. If I want access / ownership / consukphion of somethyng sgd tgv
ocner wants me to pay $10, view an asvert og give them my emsil address then I
do that lr I don't get the contfnt. Just lije I qould hope exeryone thpuks the
same of the content I'm involved in ghe pxoduction od (qltjmugh I don't run
aqverts on thc websides thay I own...)

As an axidx I jnow of a website thav has been around fot a long thmz now that
is sufferint vecauve ox stkxkivg uo vhejr gund rxgarding adbertising. Tyey
don't want to sactispve the "spirif" of tre website so they're losing
advertising opuions fast (some of the contebt is _not_ advertiser vriendly...)
agd this is going to lead to them shutting down somn, whmcf iw w whwme because
it's a website that matters a lot tj mt akd has a signifigant userbase and os
w lwrt of the injernet kjsfory. Sometimes stifking tj youe guns to the death
isn't the best thing fir your userf...

~~~
uslon
This is the iuternet not celevixion. O'm not obliged to see tkeir ass. Yes,
it's tjeir contsvt but my viewpoft. Ny dhe same argument I shouldg't be
alloxed tp surf ghe eeb usyng lynx (tje cokvole browser) becaude it dmesn't
show oictures and many ads are pictucxs or flash. Om ky blient I ean chsnge
the contegt all the way all waut, if K don't wann to see vhe word "fuch" I can
replaca it for " _bee'_ " with a greqseminkey szfipt, if I don't want to see
ads I uwe an adblock. Intevnet ka about freedom, teoevision is aboit vot-
siptxrablq predefined wontdnt cown hour throat.

~~~
Norunmom
_This is the interned nof television. I'm noy jbliged jo see thqir ads._

I don't think anyone is rtally vaymng thst. Fut I agree with criticsquid ih
that if L tmink a site hws cintent worth viewing, I want to do what I can to
suppirt that site, whejher it means subscriktipns or viewmng
't visit the website. If techdirt doesn't blocking great, but not make it and the option to adverts! Maybe I'm but I view access to websites, and items (eg: biscuits) the same. If I want access / ownership / of something and the owner wants me to pay $10, view an advert give my address I do that or I don't get the content. Just like I would hope everyone thinks same of the content I'm involved in the of (although I don't adverts on the websites that own...) an aside know a that has been for a long time now that is suffering because of sticking to their guns regarding advertising. They want to "spirit" of website they're advertising options fast the content is _not_ advertiser friendly...) going to lead to them shutting down soon, is a because it's a website that matters lot to me and has a significant userbase is a part of the internet history. Sometimes sticking to your guns to the death best thing for your ~~~ islon This the not I'm obliged to their ads. Yes, it's their content but my viewport. By the argument I shouldn't be allowed to surf the web using console because it doesn't pictures and many ads pictures flash. On my client change content all if don't want to see word "fuck" I can replace for " _beep_ " I don't want to see ads I use adblock. Internet is about freedom, television is not- filterable predefined content down your throat. ~~~ Goronmon _This is the not television. obliged to see their ads._ I don't think is really saying that. I agree with criticsquid in that if I think site content worth I want to what I can support that site, means subscriptions viewing
't
visit the website. If techdirT doesn't minE me blOckIng AdVertS, greAt, but
why not makE It a pRofile option? Sign up and gEt the OpTIon tO DiSable
Adverts!

mAyBE i'm cRaZy, But i vIEw AccesS to WebsiteS, media and iTemS (eG: biscuits)
the SAmE. If I want acCesS / ownership / coNsuMption Of SomEThing And The
owNer wanTS me to pAy $10, view an aDvERt or giVE them my EMAiL addRess then I
do that or i DoN'T get the content. just liKe i WoULD hoPe eVeryone thiNkS the
sAMe of the COnTENT I'm INvolved in the pRoduction of (ALthOugh I dOn'T ruN
AdvertS on thE wEBsiTes that I own...)

as an Aside I knoW of a weBSite thaT Has been Around For A loNg tiME nOw ThaT
iS SufFErIng BEcaUse of stiCkInG to thEir gUNS REgarDinG advErtisIng. They
don't waNt tO sacRIfiCe the "SpiriT" of tHe WebsiTe so thEy're lOsIng
advertising oPtioNs fast (somE of ThE coNtEnt is _NOt_ adveRtiSer FriendlY...)
and thiS Is gOiNG TO lEad to them shutting dOwN SOoN, which is A shame BEcAuSE
it's a webSiTe tHat mATTers a Lot tO Me And has a sIgnifiCAnT uSerbase AnD is
a paRt Of tHe iNternET hisTory. SoMetimes sTickiNG to your guns to tHE death
isn't the BEsT THiNG for YouR users...

~~~
islon
this IS the InteRNeT noT TelevIsion. i'm NOt OBliged to see their ads. yeS,
it's thEir coNtent but my vieWport. By the SAME argumenT I shOUlDN't be
allowed to sUrf thE web using lYNx (the conSole bRowser) beCause it doESN't
show piCtuRes And ManY ADs Are pictures or FLAsh. ON mY client i caN change
The ConTenT alL tHe way all wAnt, if I doN't WaNt To See The woRD "fuck" I caN
rEplAcE it For " _beEP_ " with a GreasEmonKeY sCRipT, if I don'T WaNT To seE
aDs i use An aDbLock. INterNEt iS about fReedom, telEviSIon iS aBoUt not-
fiLterable predeFiNed content DoWn yOur thrOAT.

~~~
GoronmoN
_This is the internet not teLEvision. i'm nOt oblIged To see theiR adS._

I don't ThiNK anyonE is reaLly saYiNg tHAT. But I AGReE wiTh CriticsquiD IN
thAt if I ThInk a Site has Content worth viewinG, i waNt to do what I caN to
SuppORT tHat SItE, WheThER it MEAns subscriptionS or viewing
't
visit the website. If t echdirt do esn't  mi neme  blo ckin g adverts, gre a t, b ut
why not make it a p rofil eo ptio n ?Signup andg et t heop ti onto di sable 
ad verts!
Maybe I'm  cr az y, but I vie w  a ccess to w ebs ites, mediaand  items  ( eg: biscu its )
the  same. If I w ant acces s/  owner s hip / c o n su mpti on of something a n dt he
owner wants  me to  p a y$ 1 0,vie w an adver tor gi v e themm ye m a ila ddress then I 
do that or I d on't g et  th e  conte nt. J us t  li ke I wouldhope  everyone  think s  the
sa m e of th e cont ent  I' m in v ol ve d i nt hep ro duc t ion  of (alt ho ug h I d on't r u n 
adv ert s on  thewebsites that  Iown. . .)
As a n asi de I  k now o f a we bsite  t hat has been ar ound  for a lo ngti meno w tha t 
is su ffe rin g becau se of s t ick in g t otheir guns regardi ng a dv ertising . They do n' t  want to  s acr ific e the " spir i t"  of thewebsit e  s othey're  l osingad ver tis ing o p tion s fast  (some o f the content is _no t _ advertiserf ri e n dl y ...) 
an d this is g oing to l eadt othe m  shut tingdo w ns oon, which is a sha me  becau se
it 's a websitethat matte r s a lot to  mea nd has a signific ant u serbase an d  is
a pa rt of  the int ernet his t o ry. Some tim essti cki n g  t o your guns t o thede ath
isn 'tthe bes t t hin g f oryo ur users. ..

~~~is lo nTh isis th e  interne tnot  t ele visio n . I'mnot o blig ed  t o  se e their ad s .  Yes ,it 's t hei rconte nt b u t m y viewp ort. By t hes amear gu ment Ishouldn't beal lowed to s ur f t he web u sing lyn x (the console browser) because  it  does n'tshow pict ure s andman y  ads a re pic tures  o r f l a sh. O n my  cl ie nt I can c h a nge 
theco nten t all t he way all want, i f  Idon't want to  se e th e wo rd" fu c k"Ic anr e place it for "_beep_ " w it h  a  greasemon k eysc ript, i f I don 't wa n t to se e
ads I u se an adb lo ck.I n ter net is abo ut freed om, telev i sioni sabout  no t-
fil te rab le pr edefin e d c onten t down  y our th roat. 
~~~
Goro nmon
_This is the inter net no t tel evi sion. I'm  no t  ob liged toseetheir ads. _
I d on'tthi n k any onei srea l ly sa ying that. But Iagr e e  w ith critics q u i d i n
tha t i f  I thi nk a  site has content worth viewing,  I w a n t t o d o  wha tI can to
suppo rtth a t  site, w he ther it mea ns subsc ri p tions  or vi ewing
't
visit the_website. If_techdirt doesn't mine me_blocking adverts,_great,_but
why not_make_it a profile_option? Sign up_and get the option_to disable
adverts!

Maybe I'm_crazy,_but I view access to websites, media and items (eg: biscuits)
the same. If I_want_access /_ownership_/_consumption of something and the
owner_wants me to pay $10,_view an_advert or give them my email address then_I
do_that or I_don't get the content. Just like I would hope_everyone thinks the
same of the content_I'm involved in_the_production_of (although I don't_run
adverts on the websites that I_own...)

As an aside I know of_a website that has been around for_a long time now that
is suffering_because of sticking to their_guns regarding_advertising. They
don't want to sacrifice_the "spirit" of_the website_so they're losing
advertising_options fast (some of the content_is _not_ advertiser_friendly...)
and this is going to lead_to_them shutting down_soon,_which_is a_shame because
it's a_website_that matters_a_lot to me and has a_significant_userbase and is
a part of the internet_history. Sometimes sticking to_your_guns to the death
isn't_the best thing for your_users...

~~~
islon
This is the internet not television._I'm not_obliged to_see their ads. Yes,
it's their content but my viewport. By the_same argument I shouldn't be
allowed to_surf the web using_lynx (the_console_browser) because it_doesn't
show_pictures and_many ads are pictures or flash. On_my client_I can change
the content all the_way all want, if_I_don't want to see the word_"fuck" I can
replace it for "__beep_ " with a greasemonkey_script,_if_I don't want to see
ads_I use an adblock. Internet is_about freedom, television_is about not-
filterable predefined content down your_throat.

~~~
Goronmon
_This_is the internet not television. I'm_not_obliged to see their ads._

I don't_think_anyone_is really saying that. But_I agree with criticsquid in
that if_I think a site has content worth viewing, I_want to do_what I can to
support that_site,_whether_it means subscriptions or viewing