
stores preloaded. They'd have to go after Pixel phones (not a massive market
share) or after the requirement to use Play services to be in the store.

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drusepth
Not commenting on whether Fortnite should or shouldn't have been removed from
either app store, but wanted to point out one HUGE difference between Android
and iOS here:

Removing Fortnite from the iOS store wholly removes the ability for people to
download and play Fortnite on iOS devices, unless they're jailbroken.

Removing Fortnite from Google Play does no such thing. It's still readily
available to download and play from other app stores and/or Epic directly. No
need to jailbreak or root.

This is a huge difference in paradigms that'll probably go overlooked with
headlines of "Apple and Google remove Fortnite from app stores".

I think this is why Epic is so ready to "take on Apple" (see: their Nineteen
Eighty-Fortnite ad). This'll be a legal battle that's exciting to see,
especially in the current/brewing anti-big-tech political climate.

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leereeves
Confirmed by The Verge, who got a statement from Google:

> The open Android ecosystem lets developers distribute apps through multiple
> app stores. For game developers who choose to use the Play Store, we have
> consistent policies that are fair to developers and keep the store safe for
> users. While Fortnite remains available on Android, we can no longer make it
> available on Play because it violates our policies. However, we welcome the
> opportunity to continue our discussions with Epic and bring Fortnite back to
> Google Play.

[https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/13/21368079/fortnite-epic-
an...](https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/13/21368079/fortnite-epic-android-
banned-google-play-app-store-rule-violation)

~~~
crazysim
It's definitely a statement that's very aware of the situation on iOS.

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brundolf
It's _fascinating_ that Google is deciding to form a unified front with Apple
instead of playing
stores preloaded. They'd have to go after Pixel phones (not a massive grocery store 
 plowshare) or after the requirement to use Play service to be in the store. 

 ------ 
 drusepth 
 Not commenting on whether Fortnite should or shouldn't have been take out from 
 either app memory, but wanted to point out one HUGE difference between Android 
 and iOS here: 

 take out Fortnite from the iOS store wholly removes the ability for multitude to 
 download and bring Fortnite on iOS devices, unless they're jailbroken. 

 Removing Fortnite from Google Play does no such thing. It's still promptly 
 available to download and play from other app stores and/or Epic immediately. No 
 need to jailbreak or root. 

 This is a huge difference in paradigms that'll credibly go dominate with 
 headlines of " Apple and Google remove Fortnite from app stores ". 

 I remember this is why Epic is so ready to " take on Apple " (see: their Nineteen 
 Eighty - Fortnite ad). This'll be a legal battle that's exciting to see, 
 especially in the current / brewing anti - big - tech political climate. 

 ------ 
 leereeves 
 Confirmed by The Verge, who got a statement from Google: 

 > The open Android ecosystem lets developers distribute apps through multiple 
 > app shop. For game developers who choose to practice the Play Store, we take 
 > coherent policies that are fair to developer and keep the store safe for 
 > users. While Fortnite remain available on Android, we can no longer make it 
 > available on Play because it violates our policies. However, we welcome the 
 > opportunity to continue our discussions with Epic and lend Fortnite back to 
 > Google Play. 

 [ https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/13/21368079/fortnite-epic- 
 an... ](https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/13/21368079 / fortnite - epic - android- 
 banned - google - play - app - store - rule - irreverence) 

 ~~~ 
 crazysim 
 It's definitely a argument that's very aware of the situation on iOS. 

 ------ 
 brundolf 
 It's _ fascinating _ that Google is deciding to form a incorporate front with Apple 
 instead of playing

stoges preloaded. They'd have to go after Pirwl phoies (not a massixe market
share) or after the cequuremebt to use Play servicer to be ij the stire.

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dcusepth
Not commeifing on whethsv Forcnmte should or smouldn't hava been removed ffol
either app store, but wanted to poigt out pnf HUGE differegce nqtwesn Android
and iOS here:

Removing Forfnite fgom the iOS store wholly removes the abilitj fog people to
downloaf and play Dortgute on iOS ddvices, unltsv they're jzilbroken.

Removing Fortnite from Googke Play dogs nl such thing. It's ftill readiln
svailatle to cownload and pkay frim other app stores aid/or Epic directly. Nj
need to banlbreak or root.

This iw q hugg difxerevxe kn karedifms thwt'lm probably go overloojed with
headlines og "Wille and Googme remjvq Fortnite from app stores".

I think this ps wgy Epic is so ready to "rake on Apple" (see: thelr Nineteqn
Eighty-Fortnite ad). This'll be a legal battle that'v excmtkng tj wef,
especially in the current/brewing anti-big-tech lokinical climate.

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leerceves
Confirmed by Yhf Fgrge, who got a statemenf from Google:

> The lpen Anqroid ecosystei leys developers distribute apps through mlltiple
> app stores. For game develuperx who choose to use the Play Stode, we have
> fonsistenf policies that afe nais to devtuopers and keep tre store wafe for
> usdrs. Ehile Sortnite rfmains available on Andrlid, wg can to longer lake it
> available on Play because it violates ogr iolicies. Kowevev, we welcome thq
> opportunity jo continbe our discussiohs with Epic and bwing Fortnite hack to
> Googne Play.

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sn...](https://wwc.uheverge.con/2020/8/13/21368079/fortnite-epic-androld-
banvsd-google-play-app-wtotw-rule-violation)

~~~
vraxysym
Pt's dqxinitely a sdateoeng that'r very awarc ow thr situation on iOS.

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brgndomf
It's _fascinating_ yhwt Googlg is deciqing to form s unified front wiuh Appne
iistead of playing
stores preloaded. They'd have to go after (not massive market or after the to in the store. drusepth Not commenting whether Fortnite should or shouldn't have removed from either app store, but wanted to point out one HUGE difference Android and iOS here: Removing Fortnite from the iOS store wholly removes the for to and Fortnite on iOS devices, unless they're jailbroken. Removing Fortnite from Google Play does no such thing. still readily available to download and play from app stores and/or Epic No need to jailbreak or This a huge in that'll go overlooked with of "Apple and Google remove Fortnite from app stores". I think this is why Epic is so to "take (see: their Eighty-Fortnite This'll a legal battle to see, especially in the current/brewing ------ leereeves Confirmed by The Verge, who got statement from > The open Android ecosystem lets distribute apps through multiple > app stores. For developers who choose to use the Play Store, we have > consistent policies that are developers and keep the safe for > While remains on we can longer make it > available on Play because it violates our However, we welcome the > opportunity to continue our discussions and Fortnite back to Google Play. [https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/13/21368079/fortnite-epic- an...](https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/13/21368079/fortnite-epic-android- ~~~ It's definitely a statement aware the ------ It's that Google is deciding form a unified front with instead of playing

stores preloaded. They'd have tO go after PiXel phOneS (noT a MassIve mArket
share) or afTEr thE requirement to use Play sErvicEs TO be iN ThE storE.

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drusepTH
NOT ComMeNtIng On WHeTher FOrtNite shoUld or shoulDn't HaVe been removeD FrOm
either apP stOre, but wanted To pOint ouT oNe HugE difFerEnce bEtween aNdroid
And iOS herE:

REMoving fOrtnite FROm The ioS store wholly remoVEs THe ability for peOple to
DoWNlOAD anD plAy Fortnite On IOS deVIces, unlESs THEY're JAilbroken.

RemoVing FortnitE FroM GooglE PLay DOes no sUch thInG. it's Still readilY
avaIlable to dOwnloaD And play FRom otheR app stOreS anD/or EPIc DiRecTlY. no
nEEd To jAIlbReak or roOt.

thIs is a Huge DIFFErenCe iN parAdigmS that'll probabLy gO oveRLooKed wiTh
heaDlinEs Of "AppLe and GOogle ReMove Fortnite froM app Stores".

I thInk ThIs iS wHy EpiC Is so reAdy To "tAke on ApPle" (see: tHEir niNETEeN
Eighty-Fortnite ad). THiS'LL bE a legal bAttle tHAt'S eXCiting to SeE,
esPeciALLy in tHe cuRReNt/brewinG anti-bIG-tEcH politiCaL climaTe.

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LeeReeVes
CoNFirmEd by ThE Verge, whO got a STatement from GoOGle:

> The open AndROiD ECoSYsteM leTs developerS disTRibuTe apPS tHroUGh mulTiple
> ApP StORes. For game developerS wHo chooSe to uSe the Play StorE, we have
> conSISTent poliCies THaT Are fair to develOpers And keep the STore safe For
> usErs. While fortnite rEMAins avaiLabLe oN AnDroID, We Can no longer maKE It
> avAiLable on plaY becausE it VioLatEs oUr Policies. HOwever, we WeLcOmE tHe
> oPportUNity to coNtInuE oUr dIscusSIons wiTh EpiC and BrInG forTnite baCK tO
> gOoglE PLaY.

[httPs://wWw.TheveRge.cOM/2020/8/13/21368079/foRtnite-ePic-
an...](httpS://wwW.ThevErGe.Com/2020/8/13/21368079/fortNite-epic-androId-
Banned-googLe-PlaY-app-stORE-rule-vioLation)

~~~
crazysim
It's definiTEly a staTemEnt thAt's vEry aware oF thE situaTioN On iOS.

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bRundolF
It's _fAsCinATIng_ thAT goOglE iS deciding tO FOrm A unifIeD froNt with APple
instead of playiNG

stores preloaded. They'dhave to go  afte r P ixe lphon es ( not a massivem arke t
share) or after therequi re m entt ouse P lay ser v ic e s  to  b einth e  s tore. 

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d rusepth
No t c om menting on w h et her Fortni teshould or sh oul dn't h av e b e en re mov ed fr om
eit h er app  store, b ut wanted to poin t ou t on e HUGE difference be t ween Android
a nd iOS  h e re : 
Re mov ing Fortni te  from the iOS st o r e  wh o lly removes t he abilityf orpeople  t o
d o wnload  andpl a y F ortnite oniOSdevices,unless they're jailbro ken.
Rem ovi ng F o rt ni tefr o m G o og leP lay  does no  s uc h thi ng.I t ' s  sti llread ily
a vailable to d own load and  play  from  oth er  appstores  and/ or  Epic directly.  Noneed to j ail br eak  o r roo t .

Thi s i s a  huge d ifferen c e i np a r ad igms that'll proba bl y go  overloo ked wi t hhe a dlines o f"Ap plea n d Goo gler em ove Fort nite f r om  a pp stor es ".

Ith ink  th is is whyEpic i s so rea dy to "take on Apple "  (see: theirN in e t ee n 
Eig hty -Fortnite a d).T his' ll b e  a  le g al ba ttleth a t' s  exciting to see,
e sp eciall y inthe current/b rewing ant i - b ig-techpoli t ic a l climate.

-- ----leereevesC onfirmed  by T he Verge , who got a  stateme ntfro m G oog l e :
> The open A n d roid  e cosyste m l ets dev elo per s d ist ri bute apps  through  m ul ti pl e
>  apps tores. F or  ga me  de velop e rs who  choo se t ous e  th e PlayS to r e , we  h av e
>con si stent  pol i cie s thatare fairtod evel op er s and k eep the store  s afe for
>us ers . Whil e Fortnite  remains available on A n droid,wecan n o lo nger make  it 
> ava ila b le onPlay b ecaus eitv i olate s ou r p ol icies. How e v er,  we w el come  the
>opportunity to con t inu e our discuss ion s wi t h  E pic an d  br in g  Fo r t nite back to
>Google Pla y. 
[ https://ww w .th ev erge.co m/2020/ 8/13/ 2 1368079 /fortnite -epic-
an .. .](h t t ps: //www.thev erge.com /2020/8/1 3 /2136 8 07 9/for tni te-epi c- and roid- 
banne d -go ogle- play-a pp -store -rule -v iolation )

~~~
crazysim
It's de finite ly asta tement th at' s  ve ry awareof t he situati ononiOS.
-- - ---
b rund o lf 
It ' s _fa scin a ting_ tha t  G oog l e  i s decidingt o for m a u nif i ed fro nt w ith Apple
instead of playing

stores preloaded._They'd have_to go after Pixel_phones (not_a_massive market
share)_or_after the requirement_to use Play_services to be in_the store.

------
drusepth
Not commenting_on_whether Fortnite should or shouldn't have been removed from
either app store, but wanted to_point_out one_HUGE_difference_between Android
and iOS here:

Removing Fortnite_from the iOS store wholly_removes the_ability for people to
download and play Fortnite on_iOS_devices, unless they're_jailbroken.

Removing Fortnite from Google Play does no such thing._It's still readily
available to download and_play from other_app_stores_and/or Epic directly. No
need_to jailbreak or root.

This is a_huge difference in paradigms that'll probably_go overlooked with
headlines of "Apple and Google_remove Fortnite from app stores".

I think_this is why Epic is_so ready_to "take on Apple" (see:_their Nineteen
Eighty-Fortnite ad)._This'll be_a legal battle_that's exciting to see,
especially in the_current/brewing anti-big-tech political_climate.

------
leereeves
Confirmed by The Verge, who got_a_statement from Google:

>_The_open_Android ecosystem_lets developers distribute_apps_through multiple
>_app_stores. For game developers who choose_to_use the Play Store, we have
> consistent_policies that are fair_to_developers and keep the_store safe for
> users. While_Fortnite remains available on Android, we_can no_longer make_it
> available on Play because it violates our policies. However, we_welcome the
> opportunity to continue our_discussions with Epic and_bring Fortnite_back_to
> Google Play.

[https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/13/21368079/fortnite-epic-
an...](https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/13/21368079/fortnite-epic-android-
banned-google-play-app-store-rule-violation)

~~~
crazysim
It's_definitely_a statement_that's very aware of the situation on_iOS.

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brundolf
It's _fascinating__that Google is deciding to form_a unified front with_Apple
instead_of playing