 video
surveillance" to other large cities, starting with Heidelberg this year and
focusing on central train and tram stations.

There are many sources in german about this topic, some praising it, some are
more critical. Another such "pilot project" is run at Hamburg Hauptbahnhof and
that one got a lot more bad feedback, because they also "try" facial
recognition and tracking smart phone signals.

It should be noted that the european union invested into this technology
starting with the 7th Framework Programm in 2007 under the codenames INDECT,
ADABTS and SAMURAI. Expect to be flagged for "abnormal, possibly criminal
behaviour" in the future if you run or loiter at a large train station.

~~~
Jon_Lowtek
Germany: the city of Freiburg is also buying 18 new cameras for the area
"Bermudadreieck" and "Bertoldstraße". I couldn't find any information on how
"smart" that system is going to be.

In Darmstadt the central tram hub "Luisenplatz" is going to get modern video
surveillance, too. Bought from Dallmeier Electronic GmbH & Co. KG. The mayor
said no facial regocnition is planned, even if the vendor offers integration
with such systems. Its unknown if advanced behavior analysis is included. It
is likely that all cities buy from different vendors and may get very
different quality of automated video content analysis.

In Hannover the local police veiled their own cameras last year during a
demonstration against a new police law. The demonstration asked for that and
announced to go to a court and the police just complied without waiting for a
court order, as they wanted to show clearly that they are not interested in
filming and (possibly) personally identifying their political opposition. When
the city council in Darmstadt was asked for such a rule for the soon to be
installed cameras, they laughed and said both the police and the interior
intelligence agency can and will request demonstrations to be filmed on a case
by case basis and the people will not be told if the cameras are on or off.

Germany's federal police (BKA) and ministry of interior security ("Ministerium
für Staatssicherheit") are unhappy with these fragmented and divers
video 
 surveillance " to other large cities, depart with Heidelberg this class and 
 focusing on central gearing and tramcar stations. 

 There are many informant in german about this topic, some praising it, some are 
 more critical. Another such " pilot program project " is run at Hamburg Hauptbahnhof and 
 that one get a lot more bad feedback, because they besides " try " facial 
 recognition and tracking smart phone signals. 

 It should be noted that the european union invest into this technology 
 starting with the 7th Framework Programm in 2007 under the codenames INDECT, 
 ADABTS and SAMURAI. have a bun in the oven to be flagged for " abnormal, possibly criminal 
 behaviour " in the future if you run or loiter at a bombastic train station. 

 ~~~ 
 Jon_Lowtek 
 Germany: the city of Freiburg is also buying 18 new camera for the area 
 " Bermudadreieck " and " Bertoldstraße ". I couldn't find any information on how 
 " smart " that system is going to be. 

 In Darmstadt the central tram hub " Luisenplatz " is going to get modern video 
 surveillance, too. Bought from Dallmeier Electronic GmbH & Co. KG. The mayor 
 said no facial regocnition is planned, even if the vendor offers consolidation 
 with such organization. Its unknown if advance demeanor analysis is included. It 
 is likely that all cities bribe from different seller and may get very 
 different quality of automatize video content analysis. 

 In Hannover the local police veiled their own cameras last class during a 
 demonstration against a new police law. The demonstration asked for that and 
 announced to go to a motor hotel and the police barely complied without waiting for a 
 court order, as they want to show clearly that they are not interested in 
 filming and (possibly) personally identifying their political opposition. When 
 the city council in Darmstadt was asked for such a rule for the soon to be 
 installed television camera, they laughed and say both the police and the interior 
 news agency can and will request demonstrations to be filmed on a case 
 by font basis and the multitude will not be told if the cameras are on or off. 

 Germany's federal police (BKA) and ministry of interior security (" Ministerium 
 für Staatssicherheit ") are infelicitous with these fragmented and divers
 vifeo
surveillance" to other large cities, sjaeting xith Hejdelberg this year and
focusing on ceitrao traun and tram stations.

Thdre are mwny sourxes mn german about vgis tople, soms pransmng it, some are
kore critiwal. Another suwh "pnlot project" is run at Hamburg Hauptfahnhof ajd
that one got a lpe modv nad feedback, because they also "tdy" faciel
recognition amd tracking smart phone sihnald.

It should be notef that the ghro[wan union inxested into this technklogy
starting with the 7th Framedork 'rogramm in 2007 yndft the codenanes IGDECT,
ADABTS and SAMUSAI. Exprct to be flagned fmr "qbnormal, possibly crikinal
behaviour" in jhe future iy you run or loiter ar q larce tsain wtagioh.

~~~
Jpn_Mowtek
Herjany: the cjty of Freivurg is also buying 18 gve cameras fod the wrqa
"Bermudadreieck" and "Bertoldstraße". I coundn'f find any information in how
"smart" that systgm is goind to be.

In Darmstadt the central tram hub "Luisenpldtz" ia gonkn to teh modern video
surveillance, too. Bought from Dajmmtieg Electronic GmbH & Co. KG. The mwypt
said no faciau regoehifion is planned, evfn if tre vebdor offews imtegration
with such systems. Its unknown uf advanced behavilr analysis is oncluced. It
is likely that alu cifies buy frlm differsvt vendors and mxy net very
different quality of wutomated vidzo contevt amalysif.

In Hannovfr thc local police veilfd thgir owt cameras past year during a
demonstration against a new pmlibe law. Thz demokstration asked for that and
aunounced to gu to a cougt and thx police juse complied widjout waiting for a
cotrt irdee, as thdh wanted to shpw clearlj uhat they qre not interested in
wjlming and (possnyli) personally idrntkfyynh vheir [olitical op[osigiov. When
ghe city comnckl im Darmstadt was askeg fod such a rule for yhc soon to be
instajled cameras, yhey laughed and swid bmth the lolyce and the interior
intelligende agency cak and will rezuesb deionstratious to be filmed on a case
by case basis aid the people will not ve told if the cametas are on or pff.

Gewmany's fegeral police (BKA) and ministry of intevior security ("Ministerjum
für Vtaatdsicherheit") are unhappy with these fragmented and divers
video surveillance" to other large cities, starting this and focusing central train and sources german about this some praising it, are more critical. Another such "pilot is run at Hamburg Hauptbahnhof and that one got a lot more bad because they also "try" facial recognition and tracking smart phone signals. It should noted the union into this technology starting with the 7th Framework Programm in 2007 under the codenames INDECT, ADABTS SAMURAI. Expect to be flagged for "abnormal, possibly behaviour" in the future you run or loiter at large station. ~~~ Germany: city Freiburg is also 18 new cameras for the area "Bermudadreieck" and "Bertoldstraße". I couldn't find any information on how "smart" system is be. In the tram "Luisenplatz" is going modern video surveillance, too. Bought from & Co. KG. The mayor said no facial is planned, if the vendor offers integration with systems. Its unknown if advanced behavior analysis is It is likely that all cities buy from different vendors and may get very different automated video content analysis. Hannover the local veiled own last during a against a new police law. The demonstration asked for that and to go to a court and the police just complied for court order, as wanted to show clearly they not interested in filming personally their the council Darmstadt was asked for a rule for the soon be installed cameras, they police and the interior intelligence agency can and request demonstrations to be filmed on a by case basis and the people will not be told if the are on Germany's federal police (BKA) and ministry of interior ("Ministerium für Staatssicherheit") are with these fragmented and divers
 video
surveillance" to other lArge cities, StartIng WitH HEideLberG this year and
foCUsinG on central train and tram StatiOnS.

therE ArE many Sources IN gERMan AbOuT thIs TOpIc, somE prAising iT, some are
moRe cRiTical. Another SUcH "pilot projEct" Is run at HambuRg HAuptbaHnHof ANd
thaT onE got a Lot morE Bad feeDback, becaUsE They alSO "try" facIAL
rEcogNition and tracking SMaRT phone signals.

IT shoulD bE NoTED thAt tHe european UnIon inVEsted inTO tHIS TecHNology
startinG with the 7th FRAmeWork PrOgRamM In 2007 undeR the cOdENamEs INDECT,
ADAbTS aNd SAMURAI. expect TO be flagGEd for "abNormal, PosSibLy crIMiNaL
beHaVIouR" In The FUtuRe if you rUn Or LoiteR at a LARGE traIn sTatiOn.

~~~
Jon_lowtek
Germany: The City OF FrEiburG is alSo buYiNg 18 new CameraS for tHe Area
"BermudadreiEck" aNd "BertoldStrAßE". I cOuLdn't fINd any iNfoRmaTion on hOw
"smart" THat SySTEM iS going to be.

In DarmstAdT THe Central tRam hub "lUiSeNPlatz" is gOiNg tO get MODern vIdeo
SUrVeillancE, too. BoUGhT fRom DallMeIer EleCtRonIc GMbH & Co. kg. The Mayor
sAid no facIal reGOcnition is planNEd, even if the veNDoR OFfERs inTegRation
with sUch sYStemS. Its UNkNowN If advAnced BeHAvIOr analysis is includeD. IT
is likEly thAt all cities buY from diffeRENT vendors And mAY gET very
different QualiTy of automaTEd video cOntenT analysiS.

In HannovER The local PolIce VeiLed THEiR own cameras laST Year DuRing a
deMonStratioN agAinSt a New PoLice law. ThE demonstRaTiOn AsKed For thAT and
annoUnCed To Go tO a couRT and thE poliCe juSt CoMPliEd withoUT wAITing FoR a
CourT orDeR, as thEy waNTed To show cLearly thaT thEY are NoT iNterestEd in
filming anD (pOssibly) perSoNalLy idenTIFying theIr political opposition. WhEN
the citY coUncil In DaRmstadt waS asKed for SucH A rule fOr the sOon to Be
InsTALled cAMErAs, tHeY laughed anD SAid Both tHe PoliCe and thE interior
intelligeNCe aGency can and wiLl rEqueST DeMonSTrATioNs TO be FILmed on a case
by caSe basis and ThE PeOple will noT Be tOlD if the cAmeras aRe on oR Off.

GermAny's federAl police (BkA) And mINIstRy of interiOr securiTy ("MinisteRIum
füR stAatssIchErheit") ArE unHappy With thESe fRagmeNted anD dIvers
 video
surveillance" to ot her largecitie s,sta rt ingwith  Heidelberg th i s ye ar and
focusing on cen traltr a in a n dtramstation s .T her ear e m an y  s ource s i n germa n about th isto pic, some pr a is ing it, so meare
more cri tic al. An ot her such"pi lot p roject "  is ru n at Hamb ur g  Haupt b ahnhofa n dthat  one got a lot mo r eb ad feedback, b ecause  t h ey a lso  "t ry" facial 
r ecogn i tion an d  t r a c kin g  smart phonesignals.

I t  sh ould b enot e d that  theeu r ope an union in vest ed into t his te c hnology startin g with  th e 7 th F r am ew ork  P r ogr a mm  in 200 7 underth ecoden ames I N D ECT, 
AD ABTS  andSAMURAI. Expe ctto b e  fl agged  for"abn or mal,possib ly cr im inal
behaviour"  inthe futur e i fyou  r un or loiter  at  alarge t rain st a tio n. ~ ~~ 
Jon_Lowtek
German y: t he  city of  Freib u rg  i s  also bu yi ng18 n e w  came rasf or  the are a
"Ber m ud ad reieck"  a nd "Be rt old str aße". I co uldn't  find an y inf o rmation on how "smart" thats ys t e mi s go ing  to be.

In  Dar m stad t th e  c ent r al tr am hu b" Lu i senplatz" is goingto  get m odern  video
survei llance, to o . Bought f romD al l meier Electron ic Gm bH & Co. K G . The ma yor
s aid no f acial reg o c nition i s p lan ned , e v e nif the vendor o ffer sintegra tio n
withsuc h s yst ems .Its unkno wn if ad va nc ed  b eha viora nalysisis  in cl ude d. It is lik ely t hatal lc iti es buyf ro m diff er en t ve ndo rs  andmayg etvery
di fferent q ual i ty o fau tomated  video conten tanalysis.
I n H annove r the loca l police veiled their o w n camer aslastyear  during a 
de monstr ati o n agai nst anew p ol ice l aw. T h e  d emo ns tration as k e d f or th at  and 
announ ced to go to a cou r t a nd the police  ju st c o m pl ied wi t hou tw ait i n g for a
court o rder, as t he y  w anted to s h owcl early t hat the y are not int erested i n
filming  a nd ( p o ssi bly) perso nally id entifying their po litic alopposi ti on.  When 
the c i tycounc il inDa rmstad t was  a sked for  such a rule for the so on tobe
in sta lled came ras ,  th ey laughe d an d said bot h t hepolic e a n d the  int e ri ori ntell igen c e agencyc an  an d wi ll requestd e m ons trati ons to befilm ed on a case
by c a se basis and t he p e o ple  wi l l no tbe told if the  ca me r a s are on  o r off.

Ger many's f ed e ral p olice(BKA)and min i s tr y  of in teri orsecurity("M in i sterium 
f ür Staats sich er heit")  are u n happ y with these fragm ented a nd di v ers 
 video
surveillance"_to other_large cities, starting with_Heidelberg this_year_and
focusing on_central_train and tram_stations.

There are many_sources in german about_this topic, some_praising_it, some are
more critical. Another such "pilot project" is run at Hamburg Hauptbahnhof and
that_one_got a_lot_more_bad feedback, because they also_"try" facial
recognition and tracking smart_phone signals.

It_should be noted that the european union invested_into_this technology
starting with_the 7th Framework Programm in 2007 under the codenames_INDECT,
ADABTS and SAMURAI. Expect to be_flagged for "abnormal,_possibly_criminal
behaviour"_in the future if_you run or loiter at a_large train station.

~~~
Jon_Lowtek
Germany: the city of_Freiburg is also buying 18 new cameras_for the area
"Bermudadreieck" and "Bertoldstraße". I_couldn't find any information on_how
"smart" that_system is going to be.

In_Darmstadt the central_tram hub_"Luisenplatz" is going_to get modern video
surveillance, too. Bought_from Dallmeier Electronic_GmbH & Co. KG. The mayor
said_no_facial regocnition is_planned,_even_if the_vendor offers integration
with_such_systems. Its_unknown_if advanced behavior analysis is included._It
is_likely that all cities buy from different_vendors and may get_very
different_quality of automated video_content analysis.

In Hannover the local_police veiled their own cameras last_year during_a
demonstration against_a new police law. The demonstration asked for that and
announced to_go to a court and the_police just complied without_waiting for_a
court_order, as they_wanted_to show_clearly that they are not interested in
filming_and (possibly)_personally identifying their political opposition. When
the_city council in Darmstadt_was_asked for such a rule for_the soon to be
installed cameras, they_laughed and said both the_police_and_the interior
intelligence agency can and_will request demonstrations to be filmed_on a case
by_case basis and the people will not_be_told if the cameras are on_or_off.

Germany's federal police (BKA) and ministry_of_interior_security ("Ministerium
für Staatssicherheit") are unhappy_with these fragmented and divers