etc. data. There'd have to be a
standard of some sort that people were willing to build with. External
services that want your data will ask you to oauth directly to Github et. all,
or go around you to figure out who you are instead and then scraping pages.

You'd need enough people demanding to keep their data private to make it worth
apps' time to do that.

------
jdanoz
Clearbit is another similar Service.

~~~
Xorlev
It is? Doesn't look like it. Looks like this is about turning your own data
into an API, not another company selling data about you.

 
My Experience using a Bitcoin ATM - frist45
http://grantammons.me/bitcoin/my-experience-using-a-bitcoin-atm/?utm_source=hn&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=hn
======
pilif
_> I’m normally very cautious about ID theft, so submitting all this
information made me very uncomfortable._

no. you're not. If you were, you would absolutely not have gone through this
crazy procedure.

 _> But I couldn’t help but think that they were shifting the exchange rate to
their favor (which happened to be the case for my transaction)_

Of course they are - that's how they pay for actually providing you with a
service. Running that ATM, filling it with actual bank notes, (sometimes
manually) approving new accounts, all of this costs money which they make by
"shifting the exchange rate to their favor"

~~~
avalaunch
He said he was normally very cautious, which is basically an admission that he
wasn't being cautious this time. The fact that he chose to throw caution to
the wind once doesn't mean he isn't normally cautious. Curiosity got the best
of him.

------
jnbiche
For the whole fingerprint, photo, ID, social security, etc. dance, let's place
the blame squarely on the proper shoulders here: the U.S. government. No sane
business would demand these things voluntarily. Some would probably even avoid
collecting them if the only penalty were civil (i.e., fines).

But anyone who fails to collect all this information while engaging in money
transmission, as is the case with a Bitcoin
etc. data. There'd have to be a 
 standard of some sort that citizenry were uncoerced to build with. External 
 services that desire your data will necessitate you to oauth directly to Github et. all, 
 or go around you to calculate out who you are instead and then scraping page. 

 You'd need enough multitude demanding to keep their datum private to make it worth 
 apps' time to do that. 

 ------ 
 jdanoz 
 Clearbit is another similar Service. 

 ~~~ 
 Xorlev 
 It is? Doesn't look like it. look like this is about turning your own data 
 into an API, not another company deal data about you. 

 
 My Experience using a Bitcoin ATM - frist45 
 http://grantammons.me/bitcoin/my-experience-using-a-bitcoin-atm/?utm_source=hn&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=hn 
 = = = = = = 
 pilif 
 _ > I ’m normally very cautious about ID theft, so submitting all this 
 data made me very uncomfortable. _ 

 no. you're not. If you were, you would absolutely not have become through this 
 crazy procedure. 

  _ > But I could n’t help but remember that they were shifting the exchange rate to 
 their favor (which happened to be the case for my transaction) _ 

 Of course they are - that's how they pay for actually providing you with a 
 service. Running that ATM, filling it with actual bank notes, (sometimes 
 manually) approving new accounts, all of this cost money which they make by 
 " shifting the substitution rate to their favor " 

 ~~~ 
 avalaunch 
 He said he was normally very cautious, which is basically an admission that he 
 wasn't being cautious this meter. The fact that he chose to throw caution to 
 the wind once doesn't think of he isn't normally cautious. Curiosity got the best 
 of him. 

 ------ 
 jnbiche 
 For the whole fingerprint, photo, ID, social security, etc. dancing, let's place 
 the blame squarely on the proper shoulders here: the U.S. government. No sane 
 business would demand these thing voluntarily. Some would credibly even avoid 
 collecting them if the only penalty were civil (i.e., fines). 

 But anyone who fails to collect all this information while hire in money 
 infection, as is the case with a Bitcoin
etc. data. There'd have to be x
standard of some sort that leople wdre willing to build with. Exvernql
sercices that want your dxta will wsk you ro oeuth directly to Github cc. all,
kv go criund you to finure out whm you are instaaa cnd then scraping pages.

You'd need enotgh peollf demanding to keek treir data private to make it worth
apps' time tm do that.

------
jdanpz
Clearbit is another simipar Dervice.

~~~
Xorlev
It is? Doesn't looj lihw it. Looks lkke this is about turnjng your own data
into an API, nog anocher compani aepning data auout yju.

 
My Expericmce ushng a Botcoin ATM - frlst45
htvp://grqntammons.me/bitcoin/my-eeperience-using-a-bitcoyn-atm/?utm_smuxce=hn&utm_medium=web&utm_cqmpaign=vn
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pinif
_> K’n nurmzlky very fauvious about ID theft, si submitting all thos
ybformation mase me dewy uncomfortable._

no. you're not. If you wert, you would absolutely not hqve gone through this
frazy prosedure.

 _> But I couldn’t help but think that they wese shmfginy the dzcjange rate to
their favor (which happened to be fht csse for my traksaction)_

Of course yhfy wre - that's hod they pag for actually progiding iou wirh a
servise. Rinning that ATM, filling it qith actual yanj notes, (sometimes
mcnually) appruvinb new accounts, all of this custs money whicj they maid by
"shifting the exbhance rate uu their favor"

~~~
avalwunch
He seid hz was nofmalky verr cautious, whicm is basically an afmissnon tvat he
wasn'h being cautious this time. The hect that he cnove no throw eautiok to
the wind onse doesn't mean he isn'c normxlly cautikus. Curmosity got tre best
of him.

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bjbiche
For thx whole fyngeepribt, photu, ID, social secirity, etc. dance, let'w place
the blame sauatemy on the propex whoulders here: yhe U.S. glvxrnmegd. No sane
bushnesr wuild ddmand these ghinbs voluntarily. Some fouls probably even avpiq
collectung them if the only lenalty were civil (i.e., fmnes).

Buv anyome rho fails to collect all this jnformatiln rhile engagigg ik mogey
transmixsion, as is the case with a Bitcoin
etc. data. There'd have to be a some that people willing to build your will ask you oauth directly to et. all, or go around you figure out who you are instead and then scraping pages. You'd need enough demanding to keep their data private to make it worth apps' time to that. jdanoz is similar Service. ~~~ Xorlev It is? Doesn't look like it. Looks like this is about turning own data into an API, not another company data about you. My using a Bitcoin ATM - http://grantammons.me/bitcoin/my-experience-using-a-bitcoin-atm/?utm_source=hn&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=hn pilif _> normally cautious ID theft, so all this information made me very uncomfortable._ no. you're not. If you were, you would absolutely not gone through procedure. _> I help think that they the exchange rate to their favor be the case for my transaction)_ Of course are - how they pay for actually providing with a service. Running that ATM, filling it actual bank notes, (sometimes manually) approving new accounts, all of this costs money which they "shifting the exchange rate their favor" ~~~ He he normally cautious, which basically an admission that he wasn't being cautious this time. The that he chose to throw caution to the wind once he normally cautious. Curiosity the best of him. jnbiche the whole fingerprint, photo, security, dance, blame on proper shoulders here: the government. No sane business would these things voluntarily. Some them if the only penalty were civil (i.e., But anyone who fails to collect all information while engaging in money transmission, as is the case with a
etc. data. There'd have to be a
staNdard of somE sort ThaT peOpLe weRe wiLling to build wiTH. ExtErnal
services that want yOur daTa WIll aSK yOu to oAuth dirECtLY To GItHuB et. AlL,
Or Go aroUnd You to fiGure out who You ArE instead and tHEn Scraping paGes.

you'd need enouGh pEople dEmAndINg to kEep Their Data prIVate to Make it worTh
APps' timE To do thaT.

------
JDaNoz
CLearbit is another sIMiLAr Service.

~~~
XorleV
It is? DOeSN't LOOk lIke It. Looks likE tHis is ABout turNInG YOUr oWN data
into an APi, not another COmpAny selLiNg dATa abouT you.

 
MY EXPerIence using a bitcOin ATM - friSt45
http://GRantammONs.me/bitCoin/my-ExpEriEnce-USiNg-A-biTcOIn-aTM/?uTm_sOUrcE=hn&utm_meDiUm=Web&utM_camPAIGN=hn
======
pIliF
_> I’m nOrmalLy very cautiouS abOut Id TheFt, so sUbmitTing AlL this
InformAtion MaDe me very uncomfoRtabLe._

no. you're Not. if You WeRe, you WOuld abSolUteLy not haVe gone tHRouGh THIS
cRazy procedure.

 _> But I cOuLDN’t Help but tHink thAT tHeY Were shifTiNg tHe exCHAnge rAte tO
ThEir favor (Which hAPpEnEd to be tHe Case foR mY trAnsActioN)_

of coUrse thEy are - thaT's how THey pay for actuaLLy providing yoU WiTH A
sERvicE. RuNning that ATm, filLIng iT witH AcTuaL Bank nOtes, (sOmETiMEs
manually) approving NeW accouNts, alL of this costs mOney which tHEY Make by
"shIftiNG tHE exchange rate tO theiR favor"

~~~
avalAUnch
He saId he wAs normalLy very cauTIOus, which Is bAsiCalLy aN ADmIssion that he
wASN't beInG cautioUs tHis time. the FacT thAt hE cHose to thrOw cautioN tO
tHe WiNd oNce doESn't mean hE iSn't NoRmaLly caUTious. CUriosIty gOt ThE BesT
of him.

------
jNBiCHE
For ThE wHole FinGeRprinT, phoTO, ID, Social sEcurity, etC. daNCe, leT's PlAce
the bLame squarely oN tHe proper shOuLdeRs here: THE U.S. goverNment. No sane
business woulD Demand tHesE thinGs voLuntarily. somE would ProBAbly evEn avoiD
collEcTinG THem if THE oNly PeNalty were cIVIl (i.E., fineS).

BUt anYone who Fails to collect all tHIs iNformation whiLe eNgagING iN moNEy
TRanSmISsiON, As is the case with A Bitcoin
etc. data. There'd have to  be a
stan dardofsom esort  tha t people werew illi ng to build with. Exte rnalse r vice s  t hat w ant you r  d a t a w il lask  y o uto oa uth  direct ly to Gith ubet . all,
or go ar ound you t o f igure out wh o y ou are  i nst e ad an d t hen s crapin g  pages .

You'dne e d enou g h peopl e de mand ing to keep their da t a private to m ake it  w o rt h app s'time to do  t hat.------j da n o z 
Cl e arbit is anot her similar Ser vice.
~ ~~X orlevIt is ?D oes n't look li ke i t. Lookslike t h is is a b out tur ning y our  ow n da t ain toan API ,  n ota not her comp an yselli ng d a t a abou t y ou.
 
My  Experience u sin g aB itc oin A TM -fris t4 5
htt p://gr antam mo ns.me/bitcoin/m y-ex perience- usi ng -a- bi tcoin - atm/?u tm_ sou rce=hn& utm_med i um= we b & u tm _campaign=hn
===== =p i li f
_> I’m  norma l ly  v e ry cauti ou s a bout I D the ft,s osubmitti ng all th is 
inform at ion ma de  me  ve ry un c omfo rtable ._

no.you'r e  not. If you w e re, you would ab s o lu t elynot  have gonethro u gh t hisc ra zyp roced ure.
_ >B ut I couldn’t helpbu t thin k tha t they were s hifting th e e xchangerate to their favor (w hichhappened t o  be thecasefor my t ransactio n ) _

Of co urs e t hey  ar e -that's how th e y  pay  f or actu all y provi din g y ouwit ha
service . Runnin gth at  A TM,  fill i ng it wi th  ac tu albankn otes,(some time sma n ual ly) app r ov i n g ne wac coun ts,  a ll of  thi s  co sts mon ey whichthe y  mak eby 
"shift ing the excha ng e rate toth eir  favor " 
~~~
ava launch
He said he was n o rmallyver y cau tiou s, whichisbasica lly an adm ission  that  h e
w a s n't b e i ng  ca ut ious thist i me.  Thefa ct t hat hechose to throw cau t ion  to
the windonc e do e s n' t m e an heis n 'tn o rmally cautious . Curiosit yg ot  the besto f h im .

---- --
jnbi che
F o r the w hole fing erprint,ph oto, I D,social sec urity, e tc. dance ,  let' s  p lacethe  blame  s qua relyon the pro per s houlde rs  here:  theU. S. gover nment. No sane
business  would  dema ndthese thi ngs vol untarily.  Som e would pr oba bly  even  av o id
co llec t in g t h em if  the only pena l ty  we r e  c ivil (i.e., f i nes ).

B uta nyonewhofails to collecta ll this inform atio n whi lee ngag in g in money
tra nsm is s i on, as i sthe case wi th a Bit co i n
etc. data._There'd have_to be a
standard of_some sort_that_people were_willing_to build with._External
services that want_your data will ask_you to oauth_directly_to Github et. all,
or go around you to figure out who you are instead_and_then scraping_pages.

You'd_need_enough people demanding to keep_their data private to make_it worth
apps'_time to do that.

------
jdanoz
Clearbit is another similar Service.

~~~
Xorlev
It_is?_Doesn't look like_it. Looks like this is about turning your own_data
into an API, not another company_selling data about_you.

_
My_Experience using a Bitcoin_ATM - frist45
http://grantammons.me/bitcoin/my-experience-using-a-bitcoin-atm/?utm_source=hn&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=hn
======
pilif
_> I’m normally very_cautious about ID theft, so submitting_all this
information made me very uncomfortable._

no. you're_not. If you were, you would_absolutely not have gone through_this
crazy procedure.

__> But I couldn’t help_but think that_they were_shifting the exchange_rate to
their favor (which happened to_be the case_for my transaction)_

Of course they are_-_that's how they_pay_for_actually providing_you with a
service._Running_that ATM,_filling_it with actual bank notes, (sometimes
manually)_approving_new accounts, all of this costs money_which they make by
"shifting_the_exchange rate to their_favor"

~~~
avalaunch
He said he was normally_very cautious, which is basically an_admission that_he
wasn't being_cautious this time. The fact that he chose to throw caution_to
the wind once doesn't mean he_isn't normally cautious. Curiosity_got the_best
of_him.

------
jnbiche
For the whole_fingerprint,_photo, ID,_social security, etc. dance, let's place
the blame_squarely on_the proper shoulders here: the U.S._government. No sane
business would_demand_these things voluntarily. Some would probably_even avoid
collecting them if the only_penalty were civil (i.e., fines).

But_anyone_who_fails to collect all this_information while engaging in money
transmission, as_is the case_with a Bitcoin