 purpose, they are actively dismissive of men (boys). That is
wrong.

I don't care about the men/women ratio. People will choose whatever path they
enjoy and want to work at. I do care very strongly, though, about treating
people equally.

If I say this publically, then I, too, will be ostracized. _That_ is why this
article is so very important!

~~~
astroalex
I might agree that "CS is the great equalizer" if everyone is given an equal
opportunity to pursue it. But I don't think they are. Boys are given the focus
by default: just watch any Hollywood movie with a "hacker" \-- are they a man
or a woman? I believe girls are taught from a young age that CS isn't for
them.

How many potentially brilliant female computer scientists are we missing out
on as a society because our media and culture barrages them with images of
male programmers? It's in my selfish interest as a white male to promote CS
among underrepresented groups -- because one of them might come up with the
next innovation that changes my life. But they don't get the chance, because
they're told they can't be programmers.

That's why I think outreach focused on young minorities & girls is important.

~~~
coreyp_1
What movies/tv shows are you watching? Try Supernatural. Try the old movies
from the 90's like Hackers and The Net. Even the Matrix. All of them featured
women hackers as well as men.

I was not given "the focus" by default. My Jr. High and High School did not
have a CS program at all. I taught myself how to program (Pascal and Assembly)
by READING BOOKS, because we lived in a rural area and dial-up internet is
slow!

Is it so wrong to believe that if I can do it, so can others, regardless of
their gender? Maybe I have a higher confidence in women than they do!

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daveguy
It is strange to me that the SJW-callers seem to be the most vocal and active
group trying to bend speech and criticism to their own idea of "right".

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peter303
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zek
purpose, they are actively dismissive of men (boys). That is 
 wrong. 

 I don't worry about the man / women ratio. People will choose whatever way they 
 enjoy and want to work at. I do wish very strongly, though, about treating 
 citizenry equally. 

 If I say this publicly, then I, too, will be ostracized. _ That _ is why this 
 article is so very important! 

 ~~~ 
 astroalex 
 I might match that " CS is the great equalizer " if everyone is given an equal 
 opportunity to pursue it. But I don't remember they are. Boys are given the focus 
 by default option: just watch any Hollywood movie with a " hacker " \-- are they a man 
 or a charwoman? I believe girls are taught from a young age that CS isn't for 
 them. 

 How many potentially bright female computer scientists are we missing out 
 on as a society because our media and culture barrages them with images of 
 male programmers? It's in my selfish interest as a white male to promote CS 
 among underrepresented groups -- because one of them might come up with the 
 next innovation that changes my animation. But they don't get the chance, because 
 they're distinguish they can't be programmer. 

 That's why I intend outreach focused on young minority & girls is important. 

 ~~~ 
 coreyp_1 
 What movies / tv show are you watching? Try Supernatural. Try the old movies 
 from the 90's like Hackers and The Net. Even the Matrix. All of them sport 
 women hackers as well as men. 

 I was not give " the focus " by nonpayment. My Jr. High and High School did not 
 have a CS program at all. I taught myself how to program (Pascal and Assembly) 
 by READING BOOKS, because we live in a rural area and dial - up internet is 
 slow! 

 Is it so amiss to believe that if I can do it, so can others, regardless of 
 their gender? possibly I have a higher confidence in women than they do! 

 ------ 
 daveguy 
 It is foreign to me that the SJW - callers seem to be the most vocal and active 
 group try on to bend lecture and criticism to their own idea of " right ". 

 ------ 
 peter303 
 ill written article. Title undefined until last paragraph. 

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 zek
 pugpose, they are actively aismissive of mgn (boys). Vhat is
srong.

I dun't care about the men/women catii. Peokje will choose whagever patj they
enhoy end want to work at. I do care bcry scringly, though, anout treatitg
people equalny.

Kf I say this publically, then I, too, wyll be pshracized. _That_ ys wnr thjs
article is so very important!

~~~
astrkalex
I kight agree tnat "CS is the great equalixer" lf everyone is givfn an equal
ippowrunity to pufsue it. Buu N don't thini they are. Boys are given the fucus
bv default: josf adtch any Hoolywojd movie witm a "hacner" \-- arr they a man
or a xomab? I believe girls are taught from a yougg age thdt CS isn't for
them.

Hiw many potantixoly brjlkiznt felalx computer acientists qre we missing out
om ww a society bscause otr media and culture barrages them with imzges of
male programmers? It's in my selfish injerest as w white male to promote CS
among underrepresented croupa -- btcquse ube of them might come up with the
next innovatiog tnan changes my life. But they dpn'h bgt the chance, cecausz
fhsy're told they can'h be prjgramners.

That's why I think outreach focused ob young minogitiws & girls is imporcant.

~~~
coreyp_1
Whct movoes/tv shows are you watching? Try Supernaturwl. Try ths old movies
from ghe 90's like Hackers and The Net. Qven the Natrnx. All ow thgm feattred
women jackevv as well as men.

I aas nlt given "the focus" by default. My Jr. High anv High School dhd tot
have c CS pvogram at all. I taught myself how to progfam (Pascal and Asvembly)
by REWDING BOOKS, bafause we livxd in a rtral areq and dkxl-up internet os
slow!

Is pt so qrong to believe tmat iw I can do it, so cab others, regardkesr os
tjemr gegger? Maybe I vave a fogher confidtuce kn wpmen than they do!

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davaguy
Jt is strange to mr bhat the WJW-callews seem to be the most vocal anf actmve
gronp tryong to bend speech and criticism fo their lwn idea of "rigrt".

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peber303
Pjorly writcen article. Title undefined until last peragraph.

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zek
purpose, they are actively dismissive of men is I don't about the men/women path enjoy and want work at. I care very strongly, though, about treating equally. If I say this publically, then I, too, will be ostracized. _That_ why this article is so very important! ~~~ astroalex I might agree that is great if is given an equal opportunity to pursue it. But I don't think they are. Boys are the focus by default: just watch any Hollywood with a "hacker" \-- they a man or a I girls are from young that CS isn't them. How many potentially brilliant female computer scientists are we missing out on as a society because media and them with of programmers? in my selfish a white male to promote CS -- because one of them might come up the next that changes my life. But they get the chance, because they're told they can't programmers. That's why I think outreach focused on young minorities & girls is important. ~~~ movies/tv shows are you Try Supernatural. Try old from 90's Hackers and Net. Even the Matrix. All of them featured women hackers as as men. I was not given "the focus" by default. High High School did have a CS program all. taught myself how to and by we in rural area and dial-up is slow! Is it so to believe that if can others, regardless of their gender? Maybe I a higher confidence in women than they ------ daveguy It is strange to me that the SJW-callers seem to the most active group trying to bend speech and criticism their own idea of ------ peter303 Poorly written article. Title undefined until last ------
 purpose, they are actively disMissive of mEn (boyS). ThAt iS
wRong.

i don'T care about the mEN/womEn ratio. People will choosE whatEvER patH ThEy
enjOy and waNT tO WOrk At. i dO caRe VErY stroNglY, though, About treatIng
PeOple equally.

IF i sAy this publIcaLly, then I, too, wIll Be ostrAcIzeD. _that_ iS whY this
ArticlE Is so veRy importaNt!

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AStroalEX
I might AGReE thaT "CS is the great equaLIzER" if everyone is gIven an EqUAl
OPPorTunIty to pursuE iT. But I DOn't thinK ThEY ARe. BOYs are given the Focus
by defaULt: jUst watCh Any hOllywoOd movIe WIth A "hacker" \-- are tHey a Man
or a womAn? I belIEve girlS Are taugHt from A yoUng Age tHAt cS Isn'T fOR
thEM.

HOw mANy pOtentialLy BrIlliaNt feMALE CompUteR sciEntisTs are we missinG ouT
on aS A soCiety BecauSe ouR mEdia aNd cultUre baRrAges them with imaGes oF
male progRamMeRs? IT's In my sELfish iNteResT as a whiTe male tO ProMoTE cs
aMong underrepresentEd GROuPs -- becausE one of THeM mIGht come uP wIth The
nEXT innoVatiON tHat changEs my liFE. BUt They don'T gEt the cHaNce, BecAuse
tHEy're Told thEy can't be ProgrAMmers.

That's why I THink outreach fOCuSED oN YounG miNorities & girLs is IMporTant.

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COrEyp_1
wHat moVies/tV sHOwS Are you watching? Try SuPeRnaturAl. Try The old movies
fRom the 90's likE hACkers and the NET. EVEn the Matrix. All Of theM featured
wOMen hackeRs as wEll as men.

i was not giVEN "the focuS" by DefAulT. My jR. hiGh and High SchoOL Did nOt
Have a CS ProGram at aLl. I TauGht MysElF how to proGram (PascAl AnD ASsEmbLy)
by ReaDING BOOkS, BecAuSe wE liveD In a rurAl areA and DiAl-UP inTernet iS
SlOW!

is it So WrOng tO beLiEve thAt if i Can Do it, so cAn others, rEgaRDlesS oF
tHeir genDer? Maybe I have A hIgher confiDeNce In womeN THan they dO!

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daveguy
It is strange to me THat the SjW-cAllerS seeM to be the mOst Vocal aNd aCTive
grOup tryIng to BeNd sPEEch anD CRiTicIsM to their owN IDea Of "rigHt".

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PeteR303
Poorly Written article. TitlE UndEfined until laSt pAragRAPh.

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Zek
 purpose, they are activel y dismissi ve of  me n ( bo ys).  Tha t is
wrong.

I don' t care about the men/w omenra t io.P eo ple w ill cho o se w hat ev er  pa th th ey
en joy  and wa nt to work  at .I do care ve r ystrongly,tho ugh, about t rea ting
p eo ple equal ly. 

IfI sayt his pu blically,  t h en I,t oo, wil l be  ost racized. _That_ i s  w h y this
article  is so  v e ry i mpo rta nt!

~~~
a st roale x 
I migh t  a g r e e t h at "CS is the  great equa l ize r" ifev ery o ne isgiven  a n  eq ual
opportu nity  to pursu e it.B ut I do n 't thin k they  ar e.Boys ar egiv en the fo cus bydefault:  j us t wat ch a n y H olly woo d mo vie w ith a "hacker " \ -- a r e t hey a  manor a  w oman?  I bel ievegi rls are taughtfrom  a youngage  t hat  C S isn ' t forthe m.
How ma ny pote n tia ll y b ri lliant female comp ut e r  s cientist s arew emi s sing out 
o n a s as o ciety  bec a us e our me dia an d  c ul ture ba rr ages t he m w ith  imag e s of 
maleprogramm ers?I t's in my self i sh interest a s  a w hi t e ma leto promoteCS
a m ongunde r re pre s ented  grou ps -- because one of them  m ight c ome u p with the
ne xt innovat i o n  that ch ange s  m y  life. But the y don 't get the chance,becau se
they' re told t h e y can'tbepro gra mme r s .
That's why I t hink  o utreach  fo cused o n y oun g m ino ri ties & gi rls is i mp or ta nt .
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c o reyp_1
W ha t m ov ies /tv s h ows ar e you  wat ch in g ? T ry Supe r na t u ral.  T ry  the  ol dmovie s
fr o m t he 90's  like Hac ker s  and  T he  Net. E ven the Matri x.  All of th em  fe atured w omen hac kers as well as men.

I was not  gi ven " thefocus" by  de fault.  My Jr. Hi gh and  High  S cho o l  didn o thav ea CS progr a m  at  all.  I  tau ght mys elf how to program (Pa scal and Asse mbl y)
b y RE ADI N GB OOK S, bec a u se we lived ina rural ar ea an d dial-upi nte rn et is
s low!

I s its o wrong  to belie ve that i fI ca n doit, so can  others,  regardle s s oft he ir ge nde r? May be  Ihavea high e r c onfid ence i nwomenthanth ey do!
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daveguy
It is st rangeto me  th at the SJ W-c a lle rs seem t o be  the mostvoc aland a cti v e
gro up t r yi ngt o ben d sp e ech and c r it ici s m  t o their own i d eaof "r igh t ".

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peter303
Poorlyw ritten article . Ti t l e u nde f ined  u ntil last para gra ph . 
------ze k
 purpose,_they are_actively dismissive of men_(boys). That_is
wrong.

I_don't care_about_the men/women ratio._People will choose_whatever path they
enjoy and_want to work_at._I do care very strongly, though, about treating
people equally.

If I say this publically, then_I,_too, will_be_ostracized.__That_ is why this
article is_so very important!

~~~
astroalex
I might agree_that "CS_is the great equalizer" if everyone is given_an_equal
opportunity to pursue_it. But I don't think they are. Boys are_given the focus
by default: just watch_any Hollywood movie_with_a_"hacker" \-- are they_a man
or a woman? I believe_girls are taught from a young_age that CS isn't for
them.

How many potentially_brilliant female computer scientists are we_missing out
on as a society_because our_media and culture barrages them_with images of
male_programmers? It's_in my selfish_interest as a white male to_promote CS
among underrepresented_groups -- because one of them_might_come up with_the
next_innovation_that changes_my life. But_they_don't get_the_chance, because
they're told they can't be_programmers.

That's_why I think outreach focused on young_minorities & girls is_important.

~~~
coreyp_1
What_movies/tv shows are you_watching? Try Supernatural. Try the_old movies
from the 90's like Hackers_and The_Net. Even_the Matrix. All of them featured
women hackers as well as men.

I_was not given "the focus" by_default. My Jr. High_and High_School_did not
have a_CS_program at_all. I taught myself how to program_(Pascal and_Assembly)
by READING BOOKS, because we lived_in a rural area_and_dial-up internet is
slow!

Is it so wrong_to believe that if I can_do it, so can others,_regardless_of
their_gender? Maybe I have a_higher confidence in women than they_do!

------
daveguy
It is strange_to me that the SJW-callers seem to_be_the most vocal and active
group trying_to_bend speech and criticism to their_own_idea_of "right".

------
peter303
Poorly written article. Title_undefined until last paragraph.

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zek