 internship I had,
the hiring manager asked me that. A few times, I had no response and was
shuffled around my first few weeks. Eventually, I realized that _probably_
wasn't the best way of going about things.

And all that was at companies with thousands of employees: It's a much more
vital question to be prepared to answer (even if you're not asked) at smaller
shops.

Great advice.

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maxwin
I definitely lost my respect and trust to WePay founders because of their
seemingly support for unpaid internships. Their justification is that interns
can gain learning experience though they're not paid. This is okay if none of
the intern's work goes to production code. If the interns are doing real work
that impacts the company's products, then it is not only illegal, but also
unethical.

~~~
bullrunbear
Maxwin,

Check this out at my alma mater, led by a very respected valley veteran:
[http://www.cob.sjsu.edu/bennet_s/196%20Spring%2010%20Syllabu...](http://www.cob.sjsu.edu/bennet_s/196%20Spring%2010%20Syllabus.pdf)

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100k
I have coffee that needs fetching. Perhaps you can do that. ;)

 
Linear Algebra and Applications: An Inquiry-Based Approach - henning
https://scholarworks.gvsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1021&context=books
======
jcranmer
Pedagogically, the challenge to teaching linear algebra is that you start with
"here's systems of linear equations, we can put them into matrices and now
here's row operations to solve them," and you end up with "now matrices are
actually representations of linear operators on vector spaces, let's analyze
the properties of this specific operator." Usually, this is also coupled with
a reluctance to actually discuss vector spaces, since the meat of it involves
abstract algebra, which usually comes after linear algebra.

Failing to tackle this challenge appropriately can leave students confused
about properties that seem apparently random (trace and determinant are big
offenders here), or textbooks bringing something up only to never mention it
again (null space
internship I had, 
 the hiring manager asked me that. A few time, I have no response and was 
 shuffled around my first few workweek. Eventually, I realized that _ credibly _ 
 wasn't the best way of going about thing. 

 And all that was at companies with thousands of employee: It's a much more 
 vital question to be prepared to suffice (even if you're not asked) at smaller 
 shop class. 

 Great advice. 

 ------ 
 maxwin 
 I definitely fall back my respect and trust to WePay founders because of their 
 apparently support for unpaid internship. Their justification is that interns 
 can derive learning experience though they're not paid. This is okay if none of 
 the intern's work goes to product code. If the interns are doing real work 
 that impacts the company's products, then it is not only illegal, but also 
 unethical. 

 ~~~ 
 bullrunbear 
 Maxwin, 

 Check this out at my alma mater, led by a very respected valley veteran: 
 [ http://www.cob.sjsu.edu/bennet_s/196%20Spring%2010%20Syllabu...](http://www.cob.sjsu.edu/bennet_s/196%20Spring%2010%20Syllabus.pdf) 

 ------ 
 100k 
 I have coffee that needs fetching. Perhaps you can do that. ;) 

 
 Linear Algebra and Applications: An Inquiry - establish Approach - henning 
 https://scholarworks.gvsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1021&context=books 
 = = = = = = 
 jcranmer 
 Pedagogically, the challenge to teaching linear algebra is that you begin with 
 " here's system of linear equations, we can put them into matrix and nowadays 
 here's row operations to resolve them, " and you end up with " now matrices are 
 actually representations of linear operators on vector spaces, get's analyze 
 the properties of this specific operator. " Usually, this is also pair with 
 a reluctance to actually discuss vector space, since the kernel of it involves 
 abstract algebra, which usually comes after linear algebra. 

 fail to tackle this challenge appropriately can leave students confuse 
 about properties that seem apparently random (trace and deciding are big 
 offenders here), or textbooks bringing something up only to never note it 
 again (null space
 inhernship I had,
the hiring manager asked me that. A few times, I had no response and was
shufhled aroubd my first few weeks. Dventuallj, I realized uhat _probably_
wasn'v the best way lf gmmng about thingx.

And all tvat was at com[avizs with thousands of employees: It's a much mprf
vital questiog to fe pdvpcred to answer (even if you're nof asked) at smaller
shpps.

Great advice.

------
maxwin
I deflnitfly lost my respech and trust to RwPay founderr because of their
seemjngly support for unpaid internrhips. Their jusjndicwjion is that integns
can gain lcsrning experirnce though thcy're iot paid. This is okay if ione of
the intern's wjrk goes do production code. Uf the hntesns xee aoihg rsal wogk
tiat impacts the compant's products, then it if not only illsgal, btt also
unethical.

~~~
bullrunbear
Maxwin,

Check thps oht at my alma mater, led by a very respected galley veeeran:
[http://www.cob.sjsu.edu/bennet_s/196%20Spring%2010%20Syllabu...](http://www.wob.sjaj.edb/ncnneg_w/196%20Soring%2010%20Syllabus.pdf)

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100k
I have coffee that needs fetsgimg. Perhaps you ccn do that. ;)

 
Linesr Akdebra and Appuications: An Inquiry-Based Aoproach - henbing
https://fchokarworks.gvsu.edu/cgi/viewcontebt.cgi?article=1021&bontwxt=books
======
jcranmer
Pebagogically, che chsllenbe to teaching linear augebda is that jou start dith
"here's systemr on lhnear equations, we can put them inti macrices avd npw
here'f row operwtions to solve them," and you gnd up with "now latrices are
actually representavmons of lineat o[erdtors on vectpr spaces, let'f analyze
the ptoperties of tfis specifpc operatmr." Usually, ehis is also wlupled with
a reluctagce ro axtually aiscuss vector spaces, spnee the meqt of it involves
anstrazf algebra, which usoqlly comes aftrr uinqag akgqtra.

Failing tm tazkld this challenge cporoptiately can leave stgdenfs confused
about ptoierties tyat seem apparently rsndom (trace and deuerminent arx big
ogfegders here), or textbooks bringihg somethlng up only to gevev megtion it
agcin (null space
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 internship I had,
the hiring maNager asked Me thaT. A fEw tImEs, I hAd no Response and was
SHuffLed around my first few weeKs. EveNtUAlly, i ReAlizeD that _prOBaBLY_
waSn'T tHe bEsT WaY of goIng About thIngs.

And all ThaT wAs at companieS WiTh thousandS of Employees: It's A muCh more
ViTal QUestiOn tO be prEpared TO answeR (even if yoU'rE Not askED) at smalLER
sHops.

great advice.

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maxwin
i DeFInitely lost my rEspect AnD TrUST to wePAy founders BeCause OF their
sEEmINGLy sUPport for unpaiD internshipS. theIr justIfIcaTIon is tHat inTeRNs
cAn gain learnIng eXperience Though THey're noT Paid. ThiS is okaY if NonE of
tHE iNtErn'S wORk gOEs To pROduCtion codE. IF tHe intErns ARE DOing ReaL worK
that Impacts the comPanY's prODucTs, theN it is Not oNlY illeGal, but Also
uNeThical.

~~~
bullrunbeAr
MaXwin,

Check ThiS oUt aT mY alma MAter, leD by A veRy respeCted valLEy vEtERAN:
[hTtp://www.cob.sjsu.edu/beNnET_S/196%20SPring%2010%20SylLabu...](htTP://wWw.COb.sjsu.edU/bEnnEt_s/196%20SPRIng%2010%20SyLlabUS.pDf)

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100k
I have Coffee THaT nEeds fetChIng. PerHaPs yOu cAn do tHAt. ;)

 
LiNear AlGebra and appliCAtions: An InquirY-based Approach - HEnNINg
HTtps://SchOlarworks.gvSu.edU/Cgi/vIewcONtEnt.CGi?artIcle=1021&cOnTExT=Books
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jcranmer
PedagoGiCally, tHe chaLlenge to teachIng linear aLGEBra is thaT you STaRT with
"here's systEms of Linear equaTIons, we caN put tHem into mAtrices anD NOw
here's rOw oPerAtiOns TO SoLve them," and you END up wItH "now matRicEs are
acTuaLly RepResEnTations of Linear opErAtOrS oN veCtor sPAces, let's AnAlyZe
The PropeRTies of This sPeciFiC oPEraTor." UsuaLLy, THIs is AlSo CoupLed WiTh
a reLuctANce To actuaLly discusS veCTor sPaCeS, since tHe meat of it invOlVes
abstracT aLgeBra, whiCH Usually cOmes after linear algebra.

FAIling to TacKle thIs chAllenge apProPriateLy cAN leave StudenTs conFuSed
ABOut prOPErTieS tHat seem appAREntLy ranDoM (traCe and deTerminant are big
offENdeRs here), or textbOokS briNGInG soMEtHIng Up ONly TO Never mention it
aGain (null spAcE
 internship I had,
the hir ing manage r ask edmeth at.A fe w times, I had no r esponse and was
shuffl ed ar ou n d my fi rst f ew week s .E v ent ua ll y,Ir ea lized  th at _pro bably_
was n't  t he best wayo fgoing abou t t hings.

Andall  thatwa s a t  comp ani es wi th tho u sandsof employ ee s : It's a muchm o re 
vit al question to be pr e pared to answe r (eve ni fy o u'r e n ot asked)at  smal l er
shop s .G r eat advice.

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maxwin
I def initel ylos t  my re spect  a n d t rust to WeP ay f ounders b ecause of thei r 
seemin gly su ppo rtforu np ai d i nt e rns h ip s.T hei r justif ic at ion i s th a t i nter nscangainlearning expe rie ncet hou gh th ey're  not  p aid.This i s oka yif none of
theinte rn's work  go es  to  p roduc t ion co de.  If  the in terns a r e d oi n g re al work
that impac ts t he  company 's pro d uc ts ,  then it  i s n ot o n l y ill egal ,  b ut alsounethi c al .
~~~
bu ll runbea rMax win ,

Ch e ck t his ou t at myalmam ater, led by a very respecte d  v a l le y  vet era n:
[http:// www. c ob.s jsu. e du /be n net_s /196% 20 S pr i ng%2010%20Syllabu.. .] (http: //www .cob.sjsu.edu /bennet_s/ 1 9 6 %20Sprin g%20 1 0% 2 0Syllabus.pdf) 

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100k
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Linea r Alge br a and A ppl ication s:AnInq uir y- Based App roach -he nn in ghtt ps:// s cholarwo rk s.g vs u.e du/cg i /viewc onten t.cg i? ar t icl e=1021& c on t e xt=b oo ks 
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j cranm er
P e dag ogicall y, the ch all e ngeto  t eaching  linear algeb ra  is that y ou  st art wi t h 
"here's  systems of linear equa t ions, w e c an pu t th em into m atr ices a ndn ow
her e's ro w ope ra tio n s  to s o l ve  th em ," and you e ndup wi th  "no w matri ces are
actually r e pre sentations of  li near o pe rat o rs onve c tor s paces, let's an alyze
thepr o pe rties of t h issp ecificoperato r." U s ually,this is a lso coupl ed  wit h a r eluctanceto actua lly discu s s vec t or  spac es,  since  t hemeatof iti nvo lvesabstra ct  algeb ra, w hi ch usual ly comes after linear a lgebra .

Fa ili ng to tac kle thi s challen ge a ppropriate lycan  leav e s t udent s co n fu sed about  pro p erties th a tsee m ap parently ra n d o m ( trace  an d  deter mina nt are big
offend e rs here), or t extb o o ksbri n ging  s omething up on lyto n ever men ti on it
again  (null s pa c e
 internship_I had,
the_hiring manager asked me_that. A_few_times, I_had_no response and_was
shuffled around my_first few weeks. Eventually,_I realized that__probably_
wasn't_the best way of going about things.

And all that was at companies with thousands_of_employees: It's_a_much_more
vital question to be prepared_to answer (even if you're_not asked)_at smaller
shops.

Great advice.

------
maxwin
I definitely lost my respect and_trust_to WePay founders_because of their
seemingly support for unpaid internships. Their justification_is that interns
can gain learning experience_though they're not_paid._This_is okay if none_of
the intern's work goes to production_code. If the interns are doing_real work
that impacts the company's products, then_it is not only illegal, but_also
unethical.

~~~
bullrunbear
Maxwin,

Check this out at my_alma mater,_led by a very respected_valley veteran:
[http://www.cob.sjsu.edu/bennet_s/196%20Spring%2010%20Syllabu...](http://www.cob.sjsu.edu/bennet_s/196%20Spring%2010%20Syllabus.pdf)

------
100k
I have_coffee that_needs fetching. Perhaps_you can do that. ;)

 
Linear_Algebra and Applications:_An Inquiry-Based Approach - henning
https://scholarworks.gvsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1021&context=books
======
jcranmer
Pedagogically, the_challenge_to teaching linear_algebra_is_that you_start with
"here's systems_of_linear equations,_we_can put them into matrices and_now
here's_row operations to solve them," and you_end up with "now_matrices_are
actually representations of linear_operators on vector spaces, let's_analyze
the properties of this specific operator."_Usually, this_is also_coupled with
a reluctance to actually discuss vector spaces, since the meat_of it involves
abstract algebra, which usually_comes after linear algebra.

Failing_to tackle_this_challenge appropriately can_leave_students confused
about_properties that seem apparently random (trace and_determinant are_big
offenders here), or textbooks bringing something_up only to never_mention_it
again (null space