 these apps.

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wz1000
This is great. I really look forward to seeing where it goes.

As an aside, KRunner is the best, most powerful and useful launcher I have
ever used.

~~~
zanny
If KDE could get good voice recognition like Google Now (somehow) voice
activated Krunner on a phone would be insanely juicy.

Doesn't Google have Voice Recognition APIs? Would it be alright to use their
services in KDE?

~~~
socceroos
not having your voice stored on Google's servers is one of the reasons people
are still keen on properly open phones.

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abrowne
Krunner is my favorite part of KDE. Glad it's part of this project.

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RivieraKid
I've lost all hope in the KDE project, they simply don't understand UI / UX
design.

~~~
chestnut-tree
I think the main problem is that the open source model of software development
doesn't really work when it comes to visual or interaction design. We've all
heard that phrase 'design by commitee' but that's what you get when everyone
wants a say in the way the UI works.

I can understand why this happens even though the outcome is often an
unfriendly UI. Imagine you're a developer who's spent time and effort
contributing to an open source project. Naturally you'll have an opinion on
the UX and what suits your preferences. Everyone else using or contributing
will also have a strong opinion. The moment you try and delgate visual and
interaction design to a small, dedicated team is the moment the whole project
generates enormous resentment from the "community".

Plus, any attempt to (sincerely) improve or simplify an interface will always
be met at some point with the charge of "dumbing down".

Open source and design have never had a good relationship. I wish it were
otherwise, but I don't know how it could be made better.

~~~
wz1000
What do you find 'unfriendly' about Plasma 5 and Breeze?

~~~
chestnut-tree
I was talking in general about Open Source and design not about Plasma. But
since you ask, here are some small things I noticed in the video

\- Mism
these apps. 

 ------ 
 wz1000 
 This is great. I really look forward to see where it sound. 

 As an aside, KRunner is the best, most potent and useful launcher I have 
 always used. 

 ~~~ 
 zanny 
 If KDE could get good articulation recognition like Google Now (somehow) part 
 activated Krunner on a phone would be madly juicy. 

 Doesn't Google have Voice Recognition APIs? Would it be alright to practice their 
 services in KDE? 

 ~~~ 
 socceroos 
 not have your articulation stored on Google's servers is one of the reasons multitude 
 are still keen on properly open telephone. 

 ------ 
 abrowne 
 Krunner is my favorite part of KDE. Glad it's part of this project. 

 ------ 
 RivieraKid 
 I've lose all hope in the KDE project, they simply don't understand UI / UX 
 design. 

 ~~~ 
 chestnut - tree 
 I remember the main problem is that the open source model of software development 
 doesn't really work when it comes to visual or interaction blueprint. We've all 
 heard that phrase' invention by commitee' but that's what you get when everyone 
 wants a say in the way the UI works. 

 I can sympathize why this happens even though the result is often an 
 unfriendly UI. think you're a developer who's spent time and effort 
 contributing to an open source project. Naturally you'll have an opinion on 
 the UX and what suits your preferences. Everyone else using or contributing 
 will besides have a solid public opinion. The moment you try and delgate visual and 
 interaction design to a belittled, dedicated team is the moment the whole undertaking 
 generates enormous resentment from the " residential district ". 

 Plus, any attempt to (sincerely) improve or simplify an interface will always 
 be met at some point with the accusation of " dumbing down ". 

 Open source and blueprint have never had a full relationship. I wish it were 
 differently, but I don't know how it could be made good. 

 ~~~ 
 wz1000 
 What do you find' unfriendly' about Plasma 5 and Breeze? 

 ~~~ 
 chestnut - tree 
 I was talking in general about Open Source and blueprint not about Plasma. But 
 since you ask, here are some little things I noticed in the video 

 \- Mism
 thfse apps.

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wz1000
This is great. L really look fotwqrd to seeinf where kt goes.

As an aside, KRunner id rhe btft, most powerful avd useful launchee I iave
ever used.

~~~
zanig
If KDE could net gmid voice recogkition like Google Now (sokefoc) voice
activated Krunner on a phone rould br lnsanely juicy.

Qoesm'e Gokgle have Voice Recognition APIs? Wkuld it be alright tp use their
services in KDE?

~~~
doccfroos
not having yokr voice stired in Google's sdrvers is one of the rgasons people
are still keen on pfoperky open phinws.

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ahtowne
Krunner is mj favorite pavn of KDA. Glad ot's part of thls prmjext.

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RivieraKid
I've lost ell hope in the KDE kroject, thay simply don't undeesrand OI / UF
desktn.

~~~
cfesunuv-trse
I thlnk the main lroblem is rhat the open sourct mjeel of softwade devqljpment
doesn't really work when it comes uo viaual or interaction desugn. We've all
heard thaj phrase 'dqsign by commitee' but that's what you get when evesyone
xavts a rqy in the way the UI works.

I can understand why egix mappens even thomgh the outcome is ovtrg an
unfriendli UI. Imcfihe you're a developfr who's spenr time anq efgort
contributing to an open source projvct. Baturally you'll hare an opiniou on
thg UX amd what suits your prefzrencea. Everyone flse usinf or contributing
dilk dlso havt a strong opinion. The momeit yob try ana dekgate disual and
lnteraction design to a dmall, dadicated tfam is the moment the whole prooxct
generates gnosmols resentient nrom the "communyty".

Plus, any atjempt to (fincefely) improne or sim'lify an intqrface will anaays
be met av some poynt qith the chxfge of "dumbing down".

Open source ane design have nevev had z good relationwhik. U wish it were
pthdrwysv, bnt I qmn't know how it zouuc be oade beucer.

~~~
cz1000
Dhat do you find 'unfriengly' zbout Plasma 5 and Nrceze?

~~~
chestbut-tree
I was talking on general about Oken Sonrce aid desogn not about Plasma. But
since you ask, here arc some small ehinns I noticed iu the video

\- Mism
these apps. ------ wz1000 This is great. look to seeing it goes. As best, powerful and useful I have ever ~~~ zanny If KDE could get voice recognition like Google Now (somehow) voice activated Krunner on a phone would insanely juicy. Doesn't Google have Voice Recognition APIs? Would it be alright to their in ~~~ not having your voice stored on Google's servers is one of the reasons people are still on properly open phones. ------ abrowne Krunner is favorite part of KDE. it's part of this project. RivieraKid lost all in KDE they simply don't UI / UX design. ~~~ chestnut-tree I think the main problem is that the open source model software development work when comes visual interaction design. We've that phrase 'design by commitee' but get when everyone wants a say in the the UI I can understand why this happens though the outcome is often an unfriendly UI. you're a developer who's spent time and effort contributing to an open source project. Naturally an opinion on the and what suits preferences. else or will also a strong opinion. The moment you try and delgate visual and design to a small, dedicated team is the moment the generates resentment from the Plus, any attempt to improve simplify an interface will met some charge "dumbing Open source and design never had a good relationship. wish it were otherwise, it could be made better. ~~~ wz1000 What you find 'unfriendly' about Plasma 5 and ~~~ chestnut-tree I was talking in general about Open Source and design about Plasma. you ask, here are some small things I in the video \-
 these apps.

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wz1000
This is great. I reAlly look foRward To sEeiNg WherE it gOes.

As an aside, KRUNner Is the best, most powerful aNd useFuL LaunCHeR I havE
ever usED.

~~~
zANNy
IF KdE CouLd GEt Good vOicE recognItion like GOogLe now (somehow) voICe
Activated KRunNer on a phone wOulD be insAnEly JUicy.

DOesN't GooGle havE voice REcognitioN Apis? WoulD It be alrIGHt To usE their
services in Kde?

~~~
sOCceroos
not haviNg your VoICe STOreD on google's serVeRs is oNE of the rEAsONS PeoPLe
are still keeN on properly OPen Phones.

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AbRowNE
KrunnEr is mY fAVorIte part of KDe. GlaD it's part oF this pROject.

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RiVIeraKid
i've losT alL hoPe in THe kDe prOjECt, tHEy SimPLy dOn't underStAnD UI / UX
DesiGN.

~~~
CHEstnUt-tRee
I Think The main probleM is That THe oPen soUrce mOdel Of SoftwAre devElopmEnT
doesn't really woRk whEn it comes To vIsUal Or InterACtion dEsiGn. WE've all
hEard thaT PhrAsE 'DESiGn by commitee' but thaT's WHAt You get whEn everYOnE
wANts a say iN tHe wAy thE ui workS.

I caN UnDerstand Why thiS HaPpEns even ThOugh thE oUtcOme Is oftEN an
uNfrienDly UI. ImaGine yOU're a developer wHO's spent time anD EfFORt
COntrIbuTing to an opeN souRCe prOjecT. naTurALly yoU'll haVe AN oPInion on
the UX and what SuIts youR prefErences. EveryoNe else usinG OR ContribuTing
WIlL Also have a stronG opinIon. The momeNT you try aNd delGate visuAl and
inteRACtion desIgn To a SmaLl, dEDIcAted team is the MOMent ThE whole pRojEct
geneRatEs eNorMouS rEsentment From the "cOmMuNiTy".

pluS, any aTTempt to (sInCerElY) imProve OR simplIfy an InteRfAcE WilL always
BE mET At soMe PoInt wIth ThE charGe of "DUmbIng down".

open sourcE anD DesiGn HaVe never Had a good relatIoNship. I wish It WerE
otherWISe, but I doN't know how it could be made bETter.

~~~
wz1000
WHat Do you Find 'UnfriendlY' abOut PlaSma 5 ANd BreeZe?

~~~
chesTnut-tReE
I wAS TalkiNG In GenErAl about OpeN sOurCe and DeSign Not abouT Plasma. But
since you ASk, hEre are some smaLl tHingS i NoTicED iN The ViDEo

\- MISM
 these apps.

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wz100 0
This isgreat . I  re al ly l ookforward to see i ng w here it goes.

As an a side,  K R unne r  i s the  best,m os t pow er fu l a nd us efullau ncher I  have
ever  us ed .

~~~
zanny If  KDE could  ge t good voice  re cognit io n l i ke Go ogl e Now  (some h ow) vo ice
activ at e d Krun n er on a p ho ne w ould be insanelyj ui c y.

Doesn't Go ogle h av e  V o i ceRec ognition A PI s? Wo u ld it b e  a l r i ght to use theirservices in KDE ?

~~~ 
s occ e roos
n ot ha vi n g y our voice s tore d on Goog le's s e rvers i s  one of  the r eas ons  peo p le 
a rest i llk ee n o n  pr operly o pe nphone s.
- - - - --
a bro wneKrunn er is my favo rit e pa r t o f KDE . Gla d it 's  part  of th is pr oj ect.

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Ri vier aKid
I've  lo st  al lhopei n theKDE  pr oject,they si m ply  d o n ' tunderstand UI / UX 
d e s ig n.

~~~chestn u t- tr e e
I thin kthe  mai n probl em i s  t hat theopen s o ur ce  modelof  softw ar e d eve lopme n t
do esn'treally w ork w h en it comes to visual or int e ra c t io n  des ign . We've all 
hea r d th at p h ra se' desig n byco m mi t ee' but that's what  y ou get  when  everyone
wan ts a say i n t he way t he U I  w o rks.

I can un derst and why th i s happen s eve n though  the outc o m e is oft enanunf rie n d ly  UI. Imaginey o u're  a  develo per  who'sspe nttim e a nd  effort
c ontribut in gto  a n o pen s o urce pro je ct.  N atu rally you'll  have  anop in i onon
theU Xa n d wh at  s uits  yo ur  pref eren c es.  Everyo ne else u sin g  orco nt ributin g
will also h av e a strong  o pin ion. T h e  momentyou try and delgate vis u al andint eract iondesign to  asmall,  de d icated  teamis th emom e n t the w ho lepr oject
gene r a tes  enor mo us r esentme nt from the "commu n ity ".

Plus, any  at temp t to  (s i nc e rel y) imp r o ve or simplifyan interfa ce wi ll alwaysb e m et  at som e point  with the cha rge of "d umbing do wn ".
O p ensource and  designhave neve r  hada  g ood r ela tionsh ip . I  wish  it we r e
o therw ise, b ut  I don 't kn ow  how itcould be made better.
~~~
wz 1000Wha t do youfin d  'u nfriendly ' ab out Plasma  5and  Bree ze? 
~~~ches t nu t-t r ee
Iwast alking in ge ner a l  a bout Open S o u r ceand d esi g n notabou t Plasma. But
sin c e you ask, her e ar e som e s m allth ings I noticed  in  t h e  video
\-  Mism
 these_apps.

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wz1000
This is_great. I really look_forward to_seeing_where it_goes.

As_an aside, KRunner_is the best,_most powerful and useful_launcher I have
ever_used.

~~~
zanny
If_KDE could get good voice recognition like Google Now (somehow) voice
activated Krunner on a_phone_would be_insanely_juicy.

Doesn't_Google have Voice Recognition APIs?_Would it be alright to_use their
services_in KDE?

~~~
socceroos
not having your voice stored on Google's_servers_is one of_the reasons people
are still keen on properly open phones.

------
abrowne
Krunner_is my favorite part of KDE._Glad it's part_of_this_project.

------
RivieraKid
I've lost all hope_in the KDE project, they simply_don't understand UI / UX
design.

~~~
chestnut-tree
I think_the main problem is that the open_source model of software development
doesn't really_work when it comes to_visual or_interaction design. We've all
heard that_phrase 'design by_commitee' but_that's what you_get when everyone
wants a say in_the way the_UI works.

I can understand why this_happens_even though the_outcome_is_often an
unfriendly_UI. Imagine you're_a_developer who's_spent_time and effort
contributing to an open_source_project. Naturally you'll have an opinion on
the_UX and what suits_your_preferences. Everyone else using_or contributing
will also have a_strong opinion. The moment you try_and delgate_visual and
interaction_design to a small, dedicated team is the moment the whole_project
generates enormous resentment from the "community".

Plus,_any attempt to (sincerely)_improve or_simplify_an interface will_always
be_met at_some point with the charge of "dumbing_down".

Open source_and design have never had a_good relationship. I wish_it_were
otherwise, but I don't know how_it could be made better.

~~~
wz1000
What do_you find 'unfriendly' about Plasma_5_and_Breeze?

~~~
chestnut-tree
I was talking in general_about Open Source and design not_about Plasma. But
since_you ask, here are some small things_I_noticed in the video

\- Mism