 tearing your eyes
out.

~~~
jogzden
What about something like, let's say, a kindle made for school, which stores
the student's textbooks and readings. I'd think that this would be a much
better alternative since it has limited use to begin with.

~~~
kunai
That's feasible, but schools are too interested in looking "modern" and
"sleek" by using Apple devices, so they won't use Kindle because its
interoperability with Apple devices is not as good as something like iBooks.
Part of it is a ploy to impress parents, part of it is just the "because we
can" attitude of the administration.

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erbo
We all know there are three ways to ensure something gets done: (1) Do it
yourself. (2) Hire someone else to do it. (3) Forbid your kids to do it.

But I'm surprised that this surprised the LAUSD. They chose to pit their
intelligence against the collective cleverness of a high school's worth of
teenagers that wanted their Facebook, Twitter, Pandora, Angry Birds, and
Minecraft.

LAUSD: Did you know that if you put a little hat on a snowball it can last a
long time in hell? (Yes, I stole that line from a _Dilbert_ cartoon. That's
what this whole episode resembles.)

------
madaxe
These master hackers should all be put in solitary for 30 years, for
deliberately circumventing a digital protection system and thus breaking the
CFAA.

Perhaps then people may begin to understand why these laws are ridiculous.

~~~
mgkimsal
No. Tech-savvy people already understand why they're ridiculous. The non-
techies are still generally scared of or intimidated by tech stuff, and would
simply view that as acceptable punishment for 'hackers' ('hacker' being
defined as someone who uses a computer for more than facebook and angrybirds).

~~~
madaxe
Non-tech-savvy folks I would hope would understand the wrongness of a bunch of
children being thrown in solitary for wanting to play Angry Birds.

If the American people can't and won't see the wrongness in that, then America
truly is utterly doomed, and
tearing your eyes 
 out. 

 ~~~ 
 jogzden 
 What about something like, let's say, a kindle make for school, which store 
 the student's textbooks and readings. I'd intend that this would be a much 
 better option since it has limited use to begin with. 

 ~~~ 
 kunai 
 That's feasible, but school are too interested in look " modern " and 
 " sleek " by using Apple devices, so they won't use Kindle because its 
 interoperability with Apple devices is not as full as something like iBooks. 
 Part of it is a ploy to impress parent, part of it is just the " because we 
 can " attitude of the administration. 

 ------ 
 erbo 
 We all acknowledge there are three ways to ensure something gets done: (1) Do it 
 yourself. (2) rent someone else to do it. (3) Forbid your kids to do it. 

 But I'm surprised that this surprised the LAUSD. They chose to pit their 
 intelligence against the collective cleverness of a high school's worth of 
 teenagers that wanted their Facebook, Twitter, Pandora, Angry Birds, and 
 Minecraft. 

 LAUSD: Did you know that if you put a little hat on a snowball it can last a 
 retentive time in hell? (Yes, I steal that line from a _ Dilbert _ cartoon. That's 
 what this whole episode resembles .) 

 ------ 
 madaxe 
 These master hacker should all be put in solitary for 30 years, for 
 intentionally circumventing a digital protection system and thus breaking the 
 CFAA. 

 Perhaps then multitude may begin to understand why these laws are ridiculous. 

 ~~~ 
 mgkimsal 
 nobelium. Tech - savvy multitude already sympathize why they're farcical. The non- 
 techies are still generally frightened of or intimidated by tech stuff, and would 
 simply view that as acceptable punishment for' hackers' (' hacker' being 
 defined as someone who use a computer for more than facebook and angrybirds). 

 ~~~ 
 madaxe 
 Non - tech - savvy tribe I would hope would understand the inappropriateness of a bunch of 
 child being thrown in solitary confinement for wanting to bet Angry Birds. 

 If the American people can't and won't see the wrongness in that, then America 
 truly is utterly destine, and
 tewring your eyes
out.

~~~
jogzdek
What about somejhung line, let'a say, a yindle made for school, which srores
uke student's textbookr and reafings. I'd thiik that this would be a much
befber anvernative since it has likited use to bagkn with.

~~~
kunai
That's feasible, but schoolf are tpo interested in loolyng "jodern" and
"sleek" by using Apple devjces, so they won't usr Kindle because its
interooerahility with Apple fevices is bot ww good as sooething like iBooks.
Parj of it is a ploy to impress pardnts, 'art of it us judj the "becausx we
cag" attitude on the agministtation.

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erbo
We akl nnoq there are three wayv to ensure somethyng gets goue: (1) Do it
yourself. (2) Hiee somemne alse ro ao jt. (3) Rorbid yonr kids to so it.

But I'm surprised that thix fltprised the MAUSD. Ehqy chose to pit their
intelligence againvt fhe collective clevernews of a high school's aorth of
tqenagers that wanted their Facebook, Twitter, Pandosa, Anjrh Bnvqr, ajd
Minecraft.

LAUSD: Did you know that if you put z kintle hat on a snocball it can lasy w
lpgg time in heul? (Yes, I atole that line frlm a _Dijbert_ cartoon. Uhat's
ehat this whole episode reswmbles.)

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madaxe
Nhesw master hackers skould all be put in splitary for 30 years, for
dzliberztely circulventing z digital protectkon sfstem and thus breaking thq
CFAA.

Perheps tken peopue msy begyn to undegstand why these laws arf ridnculogs.

~~~
mgkimsal
Jo. Tech-savvy people already undxcstand why thgy'ra rpdiculous. The kon-
techies are ftill generalli scared jf or intimidatvd by teci stuff, and rould
simply vhgw that as acreptable [uniwhmebt for 'fxckers' ('hacker' neing
defiutd as someine who uses a comiuter ror more than fceevook and angrybordr).

~~~
maqaqe
Npn-each-savvy folns I wojkd hooe would unbefstamd the wrongness of d buhch of
children beimg thrown un solitwry for wantimg to play Angry Blrds.

Ih the Emericsn keople can't and won't see the wrkngness ij tmat, then Ameryca
tvuly is utterlv doomed, and
tearing your eyes out. ~~~ jogzden What like, say, a made for school, and I'd think that would be a better alternative since it has limited to begin with. ~~~ kunai That's feasible, but schools are too interested in "modern" and "sleek" by using Apple devices, so they won't use Kindle because interoperability Apple is as good as something like iBooks. Part of it is a ploy to impress parents, part it is just the "because we can" attitude the administration. ------ erbo all know there are three to something gets (1) it (2) Hire someone to do it. (3) Forbid your kids to do it. But I'm surprised that this surprised the They chose their intelligence the cleverness a high school's teenagers that wanted their Facebook, Twitter, and Minecraft. LAUSD: Did you know that if put a hat on a snowball it can a long time in hell? (Yes, I stole line from a _Dilbert_ cartoon. That's what this whole episode resembles.) ------ madaxe These master all be put in for 30 years, deliberately a protection and thus the CFAA. Perhaps then people may begin to understand why these are ridiculous. ~~~ mgkimsal No. Tech-savvy people already understand why The techies are still scared of or intimidated tech and would simply view acceptable for defined someone uses a computer for than facebook and angrybirds). ~~~ Non-tech-savvy folks I would of a bunch of children being thrown in for wanting to play Angry Birds. If American people can't and won't see the wrongness in that, then America is utterly
 tearing your eyes
out.

~~~
jogzden
what about sOmethIng LikE, lEt's sAy, a kIndle made for scHOol, wHich stores
the student's tExtboOkS And rEAdIngs. I'D think tHAt THIs wOuLd Be a MuCH
bEtter AltErnativE since it haS liMiTed use to begiN WiTh.

~~~
kunai
ThaT's fEasible, but scHooLs are tOo IntEResteD in LookiNg "modeRN" and
"slEek" by usinG APPle devICes, so thEY WoN't usE Kindle because its
INtERoperability wiTh ApplE dEViCES is Not As good as soMeThing LIke iBooKS.
PART Of iT Is a ploy to imprEss parents, pARt oF it is jUsT thE "BecausE we
caN" aTTitUde of the admInisTration.

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erBo
We alL Know theRE are thrEe ways To eNsuRe soMEtHiNg gEtS DonE: (1) do It
yOUrsElf. (2) Hire sOmEoNe elsE to dO IT. (3) fOrbiD yoUr kiDs to dO it.

But I'm surprIseD thaT ThiS surpRised The LaUsD. TheY chose To pit ThEir
intelligence AgaiNst the colLecTiVe cLeVerneSS of a hiGh sChoOl's wortH of
teenAGerS tHAT WaNted their Facebook, TWiTTEr, pandora, ANgry BiRDs, AnD
minecrafT.

LaUSd: Did YOU know That IF yOu put a liTtle haT On A sNowball It Can lasT a
LonG tiMe in hELl? (YeS, I stolE that linE from A _dilbert_ cartoon. tHat's
what this wHOlE EPiSOde rEseMbles.)

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madaxe
thesE MastEr haCKeRs sHOuld aLl be pUt IN sOLitary for 30 years, for
deLiBerateLy cirCumventing a diGital proteCTIOn system And tHUs BReaking the
CFAA.

perhaPs then peopLE may begiN to unDerstand Why these lAWS are ridiCulOus.

~~~
MgkImsAL
no. tech-savvy peopLE AlreAdY undersTanD why theY're RidIcuLouS. THe non-
techIes are stIlL gEnErAllY scarED of or intImIdaTeD by Tech sTUff, and Would
SimpLy ViEW thAt as accEPtABLe puNiShMent For 'HaCkers' ('HackER' beIng
defiNed as someOne WHo usEs A cOmputer For more than faCeBook and angRyBirDs).

~~~
madaXE
non-tech-sAvvy folks I would hope woulD UnderstAnd The wrOngnEss of a bunCh oF
childRen BEing thRown in SolitArY foR WAntinG TO pLay anGry Birds.

If THE AmEricaN pEoplE can't anD won't see the wrongneSS in That, then AmeriCa
tRuly IS UtTerLY dOOmeD, aND
 tearing your eyes
out.

~ ~~
jogzden 
What  ab out  s omet hing  like, let's s a y, a  kindle made for schoo l, wh ic h  sto r es 
thestudent ' st e xtb oo ks  an dr ea dings . I 'd thin k that thi s w ou ld be a much be tter alter nat ive since it  ha s limi te d u s e tobeg in wi th.

~ ~ ~
kuna i
That'sfe a sible, but sch o o ls  are  too interested i n  l o oking "modern"  and
" sl e ek " byusi ng Apple d ev ices, so they wo n ' t  us e  Kindle becau se its
inte r ope rabili ty  wi t h Appl e dev ic e s i s not as go od a s somethi ng lik e  iBooks . 
Part o f it i s a  pl oy t o  i mp res sp are n ts , p a rtof it is  j us t the  "be c a u s e we 
ca n" a ttitu de of the adm ini stra t ion .

-- ----erbo 
W e all  knowthere  a re three ways t o en sure some thi ng  ge ts  done :  (1) D o i t
y ourself . (2) H i reso m e o ne  else to do it. (3 )F o rb id yourkids t o  d oi t.

ButI' m s urpr i s ed th at t h is  surpris ed the LA US D. They  c hose t opit  th eir
i n tell igence  against  thec ollective clev e rness of a hi g hs c ho o l'swor th of
teena gers that  wan t ed  th e ir Fa ceboo k, Tw i tter, Pandora, Angr yBirds,  andMinecraft.

L AUSD: Didy o u  know th at i f  y o u put a little  haton a snowb a ll it ca n las t a
long  time inh e ll? (Yes , I  st ole  th a t  l ine from a _D i l bert _cartoon . T hat's
w hat  th iswho le  episoderesemble s. )
- -- --- 
mada x e
Thesema ste rhac kerss houldall b e pu tin sol itary f o r3 0  yea rs ,fordel ib erate ly c i rcu mventin g a digit alp rote ct io n syste m and thus br ea king the
C FA A.
Perha p s  then pe ople may begin to under s tand wh y t heselaws  are ridi cul ous.
~~~ mgkims al
No.  Tech -s avv y peopl e al rea dy  understan d why  they 'r e ri diculou s. The non-
techie s  ar e still gener all y sc a r ed  of or int im i dat e d  by tech stuff,  and would 
s i mp ly view th a t a saccepta ble pun ishme n t for ' hackers'('hacker'  b eing d efi ned as som eone who  uses a c o mpute r  f or mo rethan f ac ebo ok an d angr y bir ds).
~~~
m ad axe
No n-tec h- savvy fo lks I would hope wouldunders tandthe  wrongnes s o f  abunch ofchil dren being  th row n insol i taryforw an tin g  to p layA ngry Bird s .
If t he  American p e o p lecan't  an d  won't  see  the wrongness in that, then Ame rica t rul y i s  utt er ly doomed, and 
 tearing_your eyes
out.

~~~
jogzden
What_about something like, let's_say, a_kindle_made for_school,_which stores
the student's_textbooks and readings._I'd think that this_would be a_much
better_alternative since it has limited use to begin with.

~~~
kunai
That's feasible, but schools are too_interested_in looking_"modern"_and
"sleek"_by using Apple devices, so_they won't use Kindle because_its
interoperability with_Apple devices is not as good as something_like_iBooks.
Part of it_is a ploy to impress parents, part of it_is just the "because we
can" attitude_of the administration.

------
erbo
We_all_know_there are three ways_to ensure something gets done: (1)_Do it
yourself. (2) Hire someone else_to do it. (3) Forbid your kids_to do it.

But I'm surprised that_this surprised the LAUSD. They_chose to_pit their
intelligence against the collective_cleverness of a_high school's_worth of
teenagers that_wanted their Facebook, Twitter, Pandora, Angry_Birds, and
Minecraft.

LAUSD: Did_you know that if you put_a_little hat on_a_snowball_it can_last a
long time_in_hell? (Yes,_I_stole that line from a _Dilbert__cartoon._That's
what this whole episode resembles.)

------
madaxe
These master hackers_should all be put_in_solitary for 30 years,_for
deliberately circumventing a digital protection_system and thus breaking the
CFAA.

Perhaps then_people may_begin to_understand why these laws are ridiculous.

~~~
mgkimsal
No. Tech-savvy people already understand why_they're ridiculous. The non-
techies are still_generally scared of or_intimidated by_tech_stuff, and would
simply_view_that as_acceptable punishment for 'hackers' ('hacker' being
defined as_someone who_uses a computer for more than_facebook and angrybirds).

~~~
madaxe
Non-tech-savvy folks_I_would hope would understand the wrongness_of a bunch of
children being thrown_in solitary for wanting to_play_Angry_Birds.

If the American people can't_and won't see the wrongness in_that, then America
truly_is utterly doomed, and