 everywhere, not just in
Emacs.)

~~~
LeonidasXIV
Wow, as an Vim user, I think this is seriously cool. Now it'd need to support
camelCode as well, so when I write camel-code in JavaScript, I get the right
thing. That'd be awesome.

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nknight
> _The Control key is in a far more comfortable position below the Tab key,
> where caps lock would be on a traditional keyboard_

Well, there's tradition and there's tradition... Traditional Unix systems
usually had ctrl there, and the old Symbolics/"MIT space cadet" keyboard
actually had what I believe is the equivalent of backspace ("rub out") in that
location. The modern location of caps lock seems to be a PCism.

Edit: Forgot to mention, notably even the Apple II and III had ctrl there, I
don't think Apple switched to the "modern" layout until the Mac:

<http://www.flickr.com/photos/suburbia_org_uk/4820757193/>

[http://www.old-
computers.com/museum/photos/Apple_III_Keyboar...](http://www.old-
computers.com/museum/photos/Apple_III_Keyboard_s1.jpg)

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cheatercheater
Don't get a Japanese keyboard... just get a better layout!

<http://bitbucket.org/cheater/us_split/overview>

It's just like qwerty, but better, because it inflicts less pain.

I didn't even know, but Apple started using it with iPads!
[http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/02/03/ipads-split-
keyboard...](http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/02/03/ipads-split-keyboard-has-
hidden-buttons/)

 

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http://blogs.computerworld.com/find_the_lowest_airfare_and_have_fun_doing_it

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jgrahamc
Hmm.

I don't think the natural language input is
everywhere, not just in 
 Emacs .) 

 ~~~ 
 LeonidasXIV 
 Wow, as an Vim user, I think this is seriously cool. nowadays it'd necessitate to support 
 camelCode as well, so when I compose camel - code in JavaScript, I get the right 
 matter. That'd be awesome. 

 ------ 
 nknight 
 > _ The Control key is in a far more comfortable position below the Tab samara, 
 > where caps lock would be on a traditional keyboard _ 

 Well, there's custom and there's tradition... Traditional Unix systems 
 usually had ctrl there, and the old Symbolics/"MIT quad cadet " keyboard 
 actually had what I believe is the equivalent of backspace (" rub out ") in that 
 location. The modern placement of caps lock seems to be a PCism. 

 Edit: Forgot to mention, notably even the Apple II and III had ctrl there, I 
 don't intend Apple switched to the " modern " layout until the Mac: 

 < http://www.flickr.com/photos/suburbia_org_uk/4820757193/ > 

 [ http://www.old- 
 computers.com/museum/photos/Apple_III_Keyboar...](http://www.old- 
 computers.com/museum/photos/Apple_III_Keyboard_s1.jpg) 

 ------ 
 cheatercheater 
 Don't get a Japanese keyboard... just scram a better layout! 

 < http://bitbucket.org/cheater/us_split/overview > 

 It's just like qwerty, but better, because it inflicts less pain. 

 I didn't even acknowledge, but Apple started using it with iPads! 
 [ http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/02/03/ipads-split- 
 keyboard... ](http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/02/03 / ipads - split - keyboard - has- 
 hidden - buttons/) 

 

 Find the lowest airfare (and have fun doing it) [ Tripeedo - YC 08 ] - adudley 
 http://blogs.computerworld.com/find_the_lowest_airfare_and_have_fun_doing_it 

 = = = = = = 
 jgrahamc 
 Hmm. 

 I don't think the natural language input is
 evfrywhere, not just in
Emacr.)

~~~
LeonidasXIV
Wow, as an Tim used, I thiny this is seriously cool. Now ir'd netb to support
camelCodd as well, so when I wcite camel-code ii JavaScvnpt, I net tke right
thing. Thst'd be awevome.

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nknight
> _Tha Zoutrol key is in a far more comfortabje posiyiln below the Twb kty,
> rhers caps lock would be on a traditiohal keyuoard_

Well, there'x tradition and there's trafitiln... Traditional Unid systems
usozllr had ctrl thdre, and tht mld Symboljcs/"MIT space cadet" keyboard
actuxlly kad what I veoiegg is the equmvalenn of backspacc ("rub ogt") in tnat
location. Thc modxrn oocation of caps lock seems to be a PCifm.

Edit: Fosgkt to mention, notqboy evgn tha Apooe KI znv IJI had ctcl there, I
dkn't think Apple switched to tht "mjeern" layout uhtil tre Mac:

<http://www.flickr.com/photos/suburbia_org_uk/4820757193/>

[vttl://www.old-
computers.com/museym/photos/Apple_III_Keybowr...](http://www.jld-
computers.com/museum/photos/Apple_III_Keyboard_s1.jpg)

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chaaterrhdattr
Eon't ewt a Japanese keyboard... just get a better layout!

<rftk://binbucket.org/cheater/ms_split/overview>

It's jksy like qwerty, cut becfed, because it inflifts lesf paib.

I didn't tven lnow, but Apple started usint it with iPcds!
[yttp://www.gottabemobipe.com/2012/02/03/ipads-s'lit-
keiboard...](nttp://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/02/03/npads-sllit-keyboarf-has-
hiddeh-cuttons/)

 

Find the loeevt airfare (and have fun doyng it) [Trmpeedp - YC 08] - aducley
htep://blogs.comouterworld.com/find_the_lowedt_airyare_atd_have_fun_dling_it

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jgrahamc
Hmm.

I don't think tix natural lanbudge input if
everywhere, not just in Emacs.) ~~~ LeonidasXIV an user, I this is seriously support as well, so I write camel-code JavaScript, I get the right thing. be awesome. ------ nknight > _The Control key is in a far more position below the Tab key, > where caps lock would be on a keyboard_ there's and tradition... Traditional Unix systems usually had ctrl there, and the old Symbolics/"MIT space cadet" keyboard actually what I believe is the equivalent of backspace out") in that location. modern location of caps lock to a PCism. Forgot mention, even the Apple and III had ctrl there, I don't think Apple switched to the "modern" layout until the Mac: [http://www.old- computers.com/museum/photos/Apple_III_Keyboar...](http://www.old- cheatercheater Don't a keyboard... get a better It's just like qwerty, but better, less pain. I didn't even know, but Apple using it iPads! [http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/02/03/ipads-split- keyboard...](http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/02/03/ipads-split-keyboard-has- hidden-buttons/) Find the airfare (and have fun doing it) [Tripeedo - 08] - adudley http://blogs.computerworld.com/find_the_lowest_airfare_and_have_fun_doing_it ====== jgrahamc Hmm. I don't think the natural language input is
 everywhere, not just in
Emacs.)

~~~
LEonidasXIV
wow, as An VIm uSeR, I thInk tHis is seriously COol. NOw it'd need to support
cameLCode As WEll, sO WhEn I wrIte cameL-CoDE In JAvASCriPt, i GeT the rIghT
thing. THat'd be awesOme.

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NkNight
> _The ContROl Key is in a faR moRe comfortablE poSition BeLow THe Tab Key,
> Where Caps loCK would Be on a tradItIOnal keYBoard_

WeLL, ThEre's Tradition and there'S TrADition... TraditioNal UniX sYStEMS
usUalLy had ctrl tHeRe, and THe old SyMBoLICS/"MIt Space cadet" keyBoard
actualLY haD what I BeLieVE is the EquivAlENt oF backspace ("rUb ouT") in that
loCation. tHe moderN LocatioN of capS loCk sEems TO bE a pCiSm.

eDit: fOrGot TO meNtion, notAbLy Even tHe ApPLE ii and iII Had cTrl thEre, I
don't think appLe swITchEd to tHe "modErn" lAyOut unTil the mac:

<htTp://Www.flickr.com/phoTos/sUburbia_orG_uk/4820757193/>

[HtTp://wWw.Old-
coMPuters.Com/MusEum/photOs/Apple_iiI_KEyBOAR...](hTtp://www.old-
computers.CoM/MUsEum/photoS/Apple_iiI_keYBoard_s1.jpG)

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cHeaTercHEAter
DOn't gET a japanese KeyboaRD... jUsT get a beTtEr layoUt!

<HttP://biTbuckET.org/CheateR/us_split/OvervIEw>

It's just like qWErty, but better, BEcAUSe IT infLicTs less pain.

I Didn'T Even Know, BUt appLE starTed usInG It WIth iPads!
[http://www.gottAbEmobilE.com/2012/02/03/iPads-split-
keybOard...](http://wwW.GOTtabemobIle.cOM/2012/02/03/iPAds-split-keyboaRd-has-
Hidden-buttONs/)

 

Find thE loweSt airfarE (and have fUN Doing it) [TRipEedO - YC 08] - AduDLEy
Http://blogs.compUTErwoRlD.com/finD_thE_lowest_AirFarE_anD_haVe_Fun_doing_iT

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jgrahamC
HMm.

i dOn'T thInk thE Natural lAnGuaGe InpUt is
 everywhere, not just in
E macs.)

~~ ~
Leo nid asX IV 
Wow , as  an Vim user,I  thi nk this is seriously c ool.No w  it' d  n eed t o suppo r tc a mel Co de  as  w e ll , sowhe n I wri te camel-c ode  i n JavaScript ,  I  get the r igh t
thing. Tha t'd  be aw es ome . 

--- --- 
nkni ght
>_ The Co ntrol key  i s  in af ar more c om fort able position bel o wt he Tab key,
>whereca p sl o ckwou ld be on a  t radit i onal ke y bo a r d _
W ell, there'stradition a n d t here's  t rad i tion.. . Tra di t ion al Unix sys tems 
usuallyhad ct r l there ,  and th e oldSym bol ics/ " MI Tspa ce cad e t"  ke y boa rd
actua ll yhad w hatI b e liev e i s th e equ ivalent of ba cks pace ("r ub ou t") i n th at 
loca tion.The m od ern location of  cap s lock se ems  t o b ea PCi s m.

Ed it:  Fo rgot to  mentio n , n ot a b l yeven the Apple IIan d II I had ct rl the r e,  I don't th in k A pple s witch ed t o  t he "mode rn" la y ou tuntil t he  Mac:
< htt p:/ /www. f lick r.com/ photos/s uburb i a_org_uk/48207 5 7193/>

[http : // w w w. o ld-com puters.com/ muse u m/ph otos / Ap ple _ III_K eyboa r. . .] ( http://www.old-
com pu ters.c om/mu seum/photos/A pple_III_K e y b oard_s1. jpg) 
- - ----
cheaterch eater 
Don't get a Japane se ke yboard.. . just ge t a better  la you t!
<h t t p: //bitbucket.o r g /che at er/us_s pli t/overv iew >
It' s j us t like qw erty, bu tbe tt er , b ecaus e  it infl ic tsle sspain. 
I did n't e venkn ow ,  bu t Apple st a r tedus in g it  wi th  iPad s!
[ h ttp ://www. gottabemo bil e .com /2 01 2/02/03 /ipads-split- 
k eyboard... ]( htt p://ww w . gottabem obile.com/2012/02/03/ip a ds-spli t-k eyboa rd-h as-
hidde n-b uttons /) 

Fin d thelowes tair f a re (a n d  h ave  f un doing i t )  [T ripee do  - Y C 08] -  adudley
http://bl o gs. computerworld .co m/fi n d _t he_ l ow e st_ ai r far e _ and_have_fun_do ing_it

== == = =jgrahamc
H m m.
I  don'tthink t he na t ural la nguage in put is
 everywhere,_not just_in
Emacs.)

~~~
LeonidasXIV
Wow, as an Vim_user, I_think_this is_seriously_cool. Now it'd_need to support
camelCode_as well, so when_I write camel-code_in_JavaScript, I get the right
thing. That'd be awesome.

------
nknight
> _The Control key is in a_far_more comfortable_position_below_the Tab key,
> where caps_lock would be on a_traditional keyboard_

Well,_there's tradition and there's tradition... Traditional Unix systems
usually_had_ctrl there, and_the old Symbolics/"MIT space cadet" keyboard
actually had what I_believe is the equivalent of backspace_("rub out") in_that
location._The_modern location of caps_lock seems to be a PCism.

Edit:_Forgot to mention, notably even the_Apple II and III had ctrl there,_I
don't think Apple switched to the_"modern" layout until the Mac:

<http://www.flickr.com/photos/suburbia_org_uk/4820757193/>

[http://www.old-
computers.com/museum/photos/Apple_III_Keyboar...](http://www.old-
computers.com/museum/photos/Apple_III_Keyboard_s1.jpg)

------
cheatercheater
Don't_get a_Japanese keyboard... just get a_better layout!

<http://bitbucket.org/cheater/us_split/overview>

It's just_like qwerty,_but better, because_it inflicts less pain.

I didn't even_know, but Apple_started using it with iPads!
[http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/02/03/ipads-split-
keyboard...](http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/02/03/ipads-split-keyboard-has-
hidden-buttons/)

 

Find_the_lowest airfare (and_have_fun_doing it)_[Tripeedo - YC_08]_- adudley
http://blogs.computerworld.com/find_the_lowest_airfare_and_have_fun_doing_it

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jgrahamc
Hmm.

I_don't_think the natural language input is