

As for your website, I agree with some of the other comments. Its not really
obvious that you have a free plan or what that offers unless you read closely.
I'd suggest you move that up into your pricing grid.

I'd also move the Sauce with Mouse row up to the top. I see your main value
for users (or at least starting point) being manual testing. Focus less on
automating and scaling up to huge numbers of tests. Get me in the door and
familiar with the product, then upsell me once I'm convinced your product is
awesome.

Best of luck to you. I'll check back in a few days to see if things are
working better.

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samuel02
Does anyone have experience with this? It would be interesting if this is
finally a good solution that really works.

~~~
kevingadd
It's great for manual testing, just be aware that the performance of the
machines they host the browsers on is REALLY bad, to the point that it may
make it hard to do testing of HTML5 apps. For basic website testing it works
pretty great.

~~~
jlipps
The application is in some sense basically a wrapper around a VNC connection.
It's likely that the performance issues you're seeing are due to VNC latency
rather than the power of the virtual machines themselves or the hardware they
run on (which is pretty beefy). But your point is well made: given this
architecture you can't really watch video or do things that require high
framerates.

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sirn
The Sauce Labs website is really confusing.

\- There's no indication that you could login using GitHub.

\- There's no (obvious?) way to logout.

\- There seems to be no way to login either once you've managed to logout?
(without visiting /login directly)

While the product is indeed nice, the website really gives me a bad
impression.

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EGreg
This is excellent! How does this compare against BrowserStack (ignoring price,
of course)

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DandelionRex
Regarding iOS support.. does this just run the simulators that come with
XCode? I have found that the simulators don't do a very good job of
reproducing real mobile safari behavior
As for your website, I agree with some of the other comments. Its not in truth 
 obvious that you take a free plan or what that offers unless you learn closely. 
 I'd suggest you act that up into your pricing power system. 

 I'd also move the Sauce with Mouse row up to the top. I see your independent value 
 for users (or at least starting decimal point) being manual examination. Focus less on 
 automating and scale up to huge numbers of tests. catch me in the door and 
 familiar with the intersection, then upsell me once I'm convinced your product is 
 awesome. 

 Best of luck to you. I'll see back in a few days to see if things are 
 working better. 

 ------ 
 samuel02 
 Does anyone own experience with this? It would be interesting if this is 
 finally a good solution that really works. 

 ~~~ 
 kevingadd 
 It's great for manual examination, merely be aware that the performance of the 
 machines they host the browsers on is REALLY bad, to the point that it may 
 make it hard to do examination of HTML5 apps. For basic web site testing it works 
 pretty big. 

 ~~~ 
 jlipps 
 The application is in some sense basically a wrapper around a VNC association. 
 It's likely that the performance issues you're seeing are ascribable to VNC latency 
 rather than the power of the virtual machines themselves or the hardware they 
 run on (which is pretty beefy). But your point is well made: given this 
 architecture you can't really watch video recording or do thing that command high 
 framerates. 

 ------ 
 sirn 
 The Sauce Labs website is really confusing. 

 \- There's no reading that you could login using GitHub. 

 \- There's no (obvious ?) way to logout. 

 \- There seems to be no way to login either once you've managed to logout? 
 (without visiting /login directly) 

 While the product is indeed nice, the web site really gives me a bad 
 impression. 

 ------ 
 EGreg 
 This is excellent! How does this compare against BrowserStack (ignoring monetary value, 
 of course) 

 ------ 
 DandelionRex 
 Regarding iOS support.. does this just race the simulators that do with 
 XCode? I have found that the simulators don't do a very good job of 
 regurgitate real mobile safari behavior


As vor your website, I agree with some of tkw othec commehts. Its vot really
obvious that you heve q fret plan or what that offers ujless yoy reed closely.
I'd sugjsst you move fmat u' mnto your pricikg grid.

I'd anso move the Sduze with Mouse row up to the top. I see your msij value
for usets (or wt lsast starting point) being manual tssting. Hocus less on
auyomating and scaling up to hugf numbers of tests. Get me in jge qior and
familkar with the product, tgen upsell me once I'm convinced your product iw
aqeslke.

Best of lnck to you. I'll chegl back in a frw days to see if thungs are
working bettec.

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samuel02
Does anyone hwve experheuce with this? It woule ve injeresding uf ghia ms
fjnally a jood solutikn that reaoly works.

~~~
kevingadd
Iu's dgrat for manuzl teseigg, just be aware that the performance ox tge
machines they host thw browsers on is REALPY bad, to the point that it may
make it hard to do testing mf HTJU5 akpw. For vadic website testing it works
pretty great.

~~~
jlippf
Fht aiplication is in fome sense nadivwlly a wrappet arounb a VNC connection.
It's likely that the perfjrmamce issues you're seeing are due to VNC jqtency
rather than che power of the virtial machines themselves or fhe hardwarf they
run un (which is pretgy neexy). But your point is well iade: givei thix
architdctute you san't reallj watgv video or do thinhs thct rexuire high
vramerates.

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sirn
The Sauce Labs weuxite is realky cotfusing.

\- Chere's no indicatiog that you coukd logiu usine GitHub.

\- Tgere's nm (obvious?) wwy to logout.

\- Djere seems tm be no ray ro ligin eigfer once you've managed no logiut?
(without visitinn /logkh directly)

While tht product is indred nise, tie wefvite really civer md a baa
impression.

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CGrdg
Thos is excellent! How goes this compare agaimsb BrowserWtack (iggoring price,
og course)

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DandelionRtx
Regacding mOS sulpott.. does this just run the simulztors thah cjme with
XCodq? I mave found thac the simulators don't do a very good job of
reproducing reao mobile safari behcvlor
As for your website, I agree with the comments. Its really obvious that or that offers unless read closely. I'd you move that up into your grid. I'd also move the Sauce with Mouse row up to the top. see your main value for users (or at least starting point) being manual Focus on and up to huge numbers of tests. Get me in the door and familiar with the product, upsell me once I'm convinced your product is Best of luck to I'll check back in a days see if are better. samuel02 Does anyone experience with this? It would be interesting if this is finally a good solution that really works. kevingadd It's manual testing, be that performance of the host the browsers on is REALLY point that it may make it hard to testing of apps. For basic website testing it pretty great. ~~~ jlipps The application is in sense basically a wrapper around a VNC connection. It's likely that the performance issues you're due to VNC latency than the power the machines or hardware they on (which is pretty beefy). But your point is well made: this architecture you can't really watch video or do things high ------ sirn The Labs website is really \- no indication that you using \- way logout. There seems to be way to login either once managed to logout? (without product is indeed nice, the website really gives a bad impression. ------ EGreg This is How does this compare against BrowserStack (ignoring price, of course) ------ DandelionRex iOS support.. just run the simulators that come with XCode? have found that the don't do a very good job of reproducing real safari


As for your website, I agree witH some of the Other ComMenTs. its nOt reAlly
obvious thaT You hAve a free plan or what that OfferS uNLess YOu Read cLosely.
I'D SuGGEst YoU mOve ThAT uP into YouR pricinG grid.

I'd alsO moVe The Sauce with mOuSe row up to tHe tOp. I see your maIn vAlue
foR uSerS (Or at lEasT starTing poINt) beinG manual teStINg. FocuS Less on
aUTOmAtinG and scaling up to huGE nUMbers of tests. GeT me in tHe DOoR ANd
fAmiLiar with thE pRoducT, Then upsELl ME ONce i'M convinced youR product is
aWEsoMe.

Best Of LucK To you. I'Ll cheCk BAck In a few days tO see If things aRe
workINg betteR.

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Samuel02
DOes anyOne HavE expERiEnCe wItH ThiS? it WouLD be InterestInG iF this Is
fiNALLY a goOd sOlutIon thAt really works.

~~~
KevIngaDD
It'S greaT for mAnuaL tEstinG, just bE awarE tHat the performanCe of The
machinEs tHeY hoSt The brOWsers oN is rEAlLY bad, tO the poiNT thAt IT MAy
Make it hard to do testInG OF HtML5 apps. FOr basiC WeBsITe testinG iT woRks
pRETty grEat.

~~~
jLIpPs
The appLicatiON iS iN some seNsE basicAlLy a WraPper aROund A VNC coNnection.
it's liKEly that the perfORmance issues yOU'rE SEeINg arE duE to VNC latenCy
raTHer tHan tHE pOweR Of the VirtuAl MAcHInes themselves or the HaRdware They
rUn on (which is prEtty beefy). BUT YOur point Is weLL mADe: given this
arcHitecTure you can'T Really waTch viDeo or do tHings that REQuire higH
frAmeRatEs.

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sIRN
THe Sauce Labs weBSIte iS rEally coNfuSing.

\- TheRe's No iNdiCatIoN that you cOuld logiN uSiNg giTHuB.

\- TherE'S no (obvioUs?) Way To LogOut.

\- ThERe seemS to be No waY tO lOGin Either oNCe YOU've mAnAgEd to LogOuT?
(withOut vISitIng /logiN directly)

whiLE the PrOdUct is inDeed nice, the weBsIte really gIvEs mE a bad
iMPRession.

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Egreg
This is excellent! How dOEs this cOmpAre agAinsT BrowserSTacK (ignorIng PRice,
of Course)

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dandeLiOnREX
regarDINg IOS SuPport.. does tHIS juSt run ThE simUlators That come with
XCode? I HAve Found that the sImuLatoRS DoN't dO A vERy gOoD Job OF
Reproducing real Mobile safaRi BEhAvior


As for your website, I a gree withsomeofthe  o ther  com ments. Its not real ly
obvious that you ha ve afr e e pl a nor wh at that of f e rsun le ssyo u  r ead c los ely.
I' d suggestyou  m ove that upi nt o your pri cin g grid.

I'd  al so mov ethe Sauce  wi th Mo use ro w  up to  the top.  I see yo u r mainv a lu e
fo r users (or at le a st starting point ) bein gm an u a l t est ing. Focus  l ess o n 
automa t in g a nds caling up tohuge number s  of  tests .Get me inthe d oo r  an d
familiarwith  the prod uct, t h en upse l l me on ce I'm  co nvi nced yo ur  pr od u cti sawe s ome .

Bestof  l uck t o yo u . I 'llche ck b ack i n a few daystoseei f t hings  arework in g bet ter.
----- -samuel02
Does a nyon e have ex per ie nce  w ith t h is? It  wo uld  be int erestin g  if  t h i s  i s
finally a good s ol u t io n that r eallyw or ks . 

~~~
ke vi nga dd
I t ' s gre at f o rmanual t esting ,  j us t be aw ar e that  t heper forma n ce o f themachines  they host the brows e rs on is REAL L Yb a d, to t hepoint thatit m a y
ma ke i t  h ard to do  test in g  o f  HTML5 apps. For ba si c webs ite t esting it wor ks
prettyg r e at.

~~~ 
jli p ps The applicatio n isin some se n se basic allya wrappe r arounda VNC conn ect ion .
I t's l ik ely that thep e rfor ma nce iss ues  you're  se ein g a redu e to VNClatencyra th er  t han  thep ower ofth e v ir tua l mac h ines t hemse lves  o rt hehardwar e  t h e y
ru non  (wh ich  i s pre ttyb eef y). But  your poi nti s we ll  m ade: gi ven this
arch it ecture you  c an' t real l y  watch v ideo or do things thatr equirehig h
fra mera tes.

--- --- 
sirnThe SauceLabs w ebsit eisr e allyc o nf usi ng .

\- Ther e ' s n o ind ic atio n thatyou could login us i ngGitHub.

\- T her e'sn o  ( obv i ou s ?)wa y  to l ogout.

\- Ther e seems to  b e  n o way to l o gin  e ither o nce you 've m a naged t o logout? 
(without  v isit i n g / login dire ctly)

W hile thep roduc t  i s ind eed  nice,  t hewebsi te rea l lygives  me aba d
impr essio n. 

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EGreg
This is excellen t! How  does  th is compar e a g ain st Browse rSta ck (ignori ngpri ce,
o f c o urse) 

-- - -- -
D a ndeli onRe x 
Regardin g  i OSs u pp ort.. doest h i s j ust r unt he sim ulat ors that come wit h 
XCode? I have  fou n d  th att he s im ulators don'tdoav e ry goodjo b of
reprod ucing re al mobil e safa ri beh avior


As for_your website,_I agree with some_of the_other_comments. Its_not_really
obvious that you_have a free_plan or what that_offers unless you_read_closely.
I'd suggest you move that up into your pricing grid.

I'd also move the Sauce_with_Mouse row_up_to_the top. I see your_main value
for users (or at_least starting_point) being manual testing. Focus less on
automating and_scaling_up to huge_numbers of tests. Get me in the door and
familiar_with the product, then upsell me_once I'm convinced_your_product_is
awesome.

Best of luck to_you. I'll check back in a_few days to see if things_are
working better.

------
samuel02
Does anyone have experience with this?_It would be interesting if this_is
finally a good solution that_really works.

~~~
kevingadd
It's_great for manual testing, just_be aware that_the performance_of the
machines they_host the browsers on is REALLY_bad, to the_point that it may
make it hard_to_do testing of_HTML5_apps._For basic_website testing it_works
pretty_great.

~~~
jlipps
The application_is_in some sense basically a wrapper_around_a VNC connection.
It's likely that the performance_issues you're seeing are_due_to VNC latency
rather than_the power of the virtual_machines themselves or the hardware they
run_on (which_is pretty_beefy). But your point is well made: given this
architecture you can't_really watch video or do things_that require high
framerates.

------
sirn
The Sauce_Labs website_is_really confusing.

\- There's_no_indication that_you could login using GitHub.

\- There's no_(obvious?) way_to logout.

\- There seems to be_no way to login_either_once you've managed to logout?
(without visiting_/login directly)

While the product is indeed_nice, the website really gives_me_a_bad
impression.

------
EGreg
This is excellent! How does_this compare against BrowserStack (ignoring price,
of_course)

------
DandelionRex
Regarding iOS support.._does this just run the simulators that_come_with
XCode? I have found that the_simulators_don't do a very good job_of
reproducing_real_mobile safari behavior