
This is important for way more than just Presidential elections. It helps
solve the money in politics problem as well by diluting power and making
representatives more accountable.

------
HideousKojima
The fight against the electoral college is one of those things that misses the
forest for the trees. The real problem is that too much power has been vested
in the federal government (and in the executive branch specifically), and too
much power has been taken from the states. People would care a lot less about
how the president gets elected if he didn't have so much control over the
entire country.

~~~
compycom
I disagree. Consider our inability to coordinate a proper pandemic response,
or the current smoke catastrophe spanning the west coast. The problems facing
our country are increasingly national in scope, and require coordinated
responses at the federal level. I believe our entrenched commitment to
federalism and state's rights is going to hold us back more and more in the
years ahead.

~~~
throwawaysea
Why do you think pandemic response or wildfire are national in scope? Both can
be handled at the state level. For example California, Oregon, and a
Washington could perform necessary controlled burning
([https://www.npr.org/2020/08/24/899422710/to-manage-
wildfire-...](https://www.npr.org/2020/08/24/899422710/to-manage-wildfire-
california-looks-to-what-tribes-have-known-all-along)) or harvest trees on a
timely basis ([https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/19/us/california-
today-100-m...](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/19/us/california-
today-100-million-dead-trees-prompt-fears-of-giant-wildfires.html)), or at
least stay in target with even their existing forest management target, which
they haven’t ([https://www.washingtonpolicy.org/publications/detail/to-
stop...](https://www.washingtonpolicy.org/publications/detail/to-stop-
wildland-fires-forestry-not-climate-policy-is-the-priority)). Whatever states

This is important for way more than just Presidential elections. It help 
 resolve the money in politics problem as well by diluting office and making 
 representatives more accountable. 

 ------ 
 HideousKojima 
 The competitiveness against the electoral college is one of those thing that misses the 
 forest for the tree. The real problem is that besides much power has been vested 
 in the union government (and in the executive branch specifically), and too 
 much power has been taken from the states. People would wish a lot less about 
 how the president gets elected if he didn't consume so much control over the 
 entire country. 

 ~~~ 
 compycom 
 I disagree. see our inability to coordinate a proper pandemic response, 
 or the current smoke catastrophe spanning the west seashore. The problems facing 
 our country are increasingly national in scope, and require coordinated 
 responses at the federal level. I believe our entrenched commitment to 
 federalism and state's rights is going to hold us back more and more in the 
 old age ahead. 

 ~~~ 
 throwawaysea 
 Why do you think pandemic response or wildfire are home in oscilloscope? Both can 
 be cover at the state level. For example California, Oregon, and a 
 Washington could perform necessary controlled burning 
 ([ https://www.npr.org/2020/08/24/899422710/to-manage- 
 wildfire-... ](https://www.npr.org/2020/08/24/899422710 / to - manage - wildfire- 
 california - look - to - what - tribes - have - known - all - along) ) or harvest trees on a 
 timely basis ([ https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/19/us/california- 
 today-100 - m... ](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/19 / us / california- 
 today-100-million-dead-trees-prompt-fears-of-giant-wildfires.html) ), or at 
 least persist in target with even their existing forest management target, which 
 they have n’t ([ https://www.washingtonpolicy.org/publications/detail/to- 
 hold on... ](https://www.washingtonpolicy.org / publications / contingent / to - stop- 
 wildland - fire - forestry - not - climate - policy - is - the - priority) ). Whatever states

Thid is important for way mure than just Ptewidentmal eledtions. Ig helps
solve the money in popirics kgoblem as well by diljting powvr and majing
cepresentatives more accountabmc.

------
HidemnsKojima
The figmt against dhe electoral woulzge is one of those things that missqs the
fprfst for the trges. Tnq rezl problem is that too much power gas beei vested
in the gederal government (and in hhe fxecutive branch soecifically), and roo
much powef has been taken from jhe states. People would care a lut lexs about
hoq rhe kresident gevs elebted if he didn't have so mucn control over thx
enture country.

~~~
compycom
I visagree. Consider out inabilitf co coordinate a propee pandekic sespubse,
ur uhe chrrent smkke catastdophe spannung the west coast. Uhe itoblems facihg
our sotntry are increasingly national in scopt, and require coordinated
responses at the federal level. I felieve our entrenched commitment to
federalism ang stave'r rnnmts kw hoing to hold us back more and more in the
yeawa shvad.

~~~
throwawaysea
Whn do you think panceliv response or dildfixs zre national in sclpe? Botr can
ve handleq at the state level. For examplw California, Iregon, and a
Washinyton could pzrform necexsary controlled burniny
([https://sww.npr.org/2020/08/24/899422710/to-lanage-
wilswire-...](https://www.npr.ofg/2020/08/24/899422710/tp-mdnage-wildfire-
california-loohs-to-what-tcibes-kave-knowv-all-slong)) jr harvest trees on a
timely basis ([jttps://cww.nydimes.com/2018/01/19/us/falifornia-
today-100-m...](https://www.nytimes.rpm/2018/01/19/us/californoa-
doddy-100-milliou-dead-tvees-prompt-fears-jf-giant-wildfirgs.html)), or at
lexst stay ih targev with even eheir existinc forest manajement tawget, whixh
they fxven’t ([https://www.eashingtoukolicy.org/pyblications/detail/tp-
stul...](https://www.washinyuonkooicy.org/publicayiovs/dqtwik/tj-vtop-
wildland-xirer-fofrstry-vot-climate-piuicy-os-the-priority)). Whatevar sfates

This is important for way more than elections. helps solve money in politics power making representatives more ------ HideousKojima The against the electoral college is one those things that misses the forest for the trees. The real problem is too much power has been vested in the federal government (and in the branch and much has been taken from the states. People would care a lot less about how the president elected if he didn't have so much control the entire country. ~~~ I disagree. Consider our inability coordinate proper pandemic or current catastrophe spanning the coast. The problems facing our country are increasingly national in scope, and require coordinated responses at the level. I entrenched commitment federalism state's is going to back more and more in the throwawaysea Why do you think pandemic response or are national scope? Both can be handled at state level. For example California, Oregon, and a could perform necessary controlled burning ([https://www.npr.org/2020/08/24/899422710/to-manage- wildfire-...](https://www.npr.org/2020/08/24/899422710/to-manage-wildfire- california-looks-to-what-tribes-have-known-all-along)) or harvest trees on a timely basis today-100-million-dead-trees-prompt-fears-of-giant-wildfires.html)), or at least in target with their forest target, they haven’t stop...](https://www.washingtonpolicy.org/publications/detail/to-stop- wildland-fires-forestry-not-climate-policy-is-the-priority)). Whatever states

This is important for way more Than just PrEsideNtiAl eLeCtioNs. It Helps
solve the mONey iN politics problem as well By dilUtINg poWEr And maKing
repREsENTatIvEs MorE aCCoUntabLe.

------
HIdeousKOjima
The fiGht AgAinst the elecTOrAl college iS onE of those thinGs tHat misSeS thE
ForesT foR the tRees. ThE Real prOblem is thAt TOo much POwer has BEEn VestEd
in the federal govERnMEnt (and in the exeCutive BrANcH SPecIfiCally), and toO
mUch poWEr has beEN tAKEN frOM the states. PeoPle would carE A loT less aBoUt
hOW the prEsideNt GEts Elected if he Didn'T have so muCh contROl over tHE
entire CountrY.

~~~
coMpyCom
I DIsAgRee. coNSidER oUr iNAbiLity to coOrDiNate a PropER PANdemIc rEspoNse,
or The current smoKe cAtasTRopHe spaNning The wEsT coasT. The prOblemS fAcing
our country Are iNcreasingLy nAtIonAl In scoPE, and reQuiRe cOordinaTed
respONseS aT THE fEderal level. I believE oUR EnTrenched CommitMEnT tO
FederaliSm And StatE'S RightS is gOInG to hold uS back mORe AnD more in ThE
years AhEad.

~~~
ThrOwawaYSea
WHy do yoU think paNdemiC Response or wildFIre are nationaL In SCOpE? both Can
Be handled at The sTAte lEvel. fOr ExaMPle CaLiforNiA, orEGon, and a
Washington coUlD perfoRm necEssary controlLed burning
([HTTPs://www.npr.Org/2020/08/24/899422710/tO-MaNAge-
wildfire-...](httPs://www.Npr.org/2020/08/24/899422710/to-maNAge-wildfIre-
caLifornia-Looks-to-whAT-Tribes-haVe-kNowN-alL-alONG)) oR harvest trees ON A
timElY basis ([hTtpS://www.nytImeS.coM/2018/01/19/us/CalIfOrnia-
todaY-100-m...](https://wWw.NyTiMeS.coM/2018/01/19/us/caLIfornia-
tOdAy-100-mIlLioN-dead-TRees-prOmpt-fEars-Of-GiANt-wIldfireS.HtML)), Or at
LeAsT staY in TaRget wIth eVEn tHeir exiSting foreSt mANageMeNt Target, wHich
they haven’T ([hTtps://www.wasHiNgtOnpoliCY.Org/publiCations/detail/to-
stop...](httpS://Www.washIngTonpoLicy.Org/publicAtiOns/detAil/TO-stop-
wIldlanD-fireS-fOreSTRy-not-CLImAte-PoLicy-is-the-pRIOriTy)). WhaTeVer sTates


This is important for way  more than  just  Pr esi de ntia l el ections. It he l ps
s olve the money in poli ticspr o blem as  well  by dil u ti n g  po we rand  m a ki ng
re pre sentati ves more a cco un table.

---- - -HideousKoj ima 
The fight a gai nst th eele c toral  co llege  is on e  of th ose thing st hat mi s ses the f or estfor the trees. Th e  r e al problem isthat t oo mu c h  po wer  has beenve stedi n the f e de r a l  go v ernment (andin the exec u tiv e bran ch  sp e cifica lly),  a n d t oo
much pow er h as been t aken f r om thes tates.People  wo uld  car e  a  l otle s s a b ou t
h o w t he presi de nt  gets  ele c t e d  ifhedidn 't ha ve so much co ntr ol o v erthe
e ntire  cou nt ry.
~~~
co mpyco mI disagree. Con side r our ina bil it y t ocoord i nate a  pr ope r pande mic res p ons e, o r  t he current smoke c at a s tr ophe spa nningt he  w e st coast .The  pro b l ems f acin g 
o ur count ry are in cr easingl ynation al  in  sc ope,a nd r equire  coordin atedr esponses at th e  federal leve l .I be l ieve  ou r entrenche d co m mitm entt ofed e ralis m and  s t at e 's rights is goingto  holdus ba ck more and m ore in the y e ars ahea d.
~ ~~ throwawaysea
W hy do  you think pandemic  resp onse orwildfirea r e nation alinsco pe? B ot h can
be hand l e d at  t he stat e l evel. F orexa mpl e C al ifornia,Oregon,an daWa shi ngton could pe rf orm  n ece ssary contro lledburn in g( [ht tps://w w w. n p r.or g/ 20 20/0 8/2 4/ 89942 2710 / to- manage- 
wildfire -.. . ](ht tp s: //www.n pr.org/2020/0 8/ 24/8994227 10 /to -manag e - wildfire -
california-looks-to-w h at-trib es- have- know n-all-alo ng) ) or h arv e st tre es ona
tim el y b a s is ([ h t tp s:/ /w ww.nytimes . c om/ 2018/ 01 /19/ us/cali fornia-
today-100- m ... ](https://www .ny time s . co m/2 0 18 / 01/ 19 / us/ c a lifornia-
today -100-milli on - de ad-trees-p r omp t- fears-o f-giant -wild f ires.ht ml)), orat
leastst ay i n tar get with e ven thei r existin g  fore s tmanag eme nt tar ge t,which 
theyh ave n’t ( [https :/ /www.w ashin gt onpolicy .org/publications/detai l/to-stop. ..] (https:// www . was hingtonpo licy .org/publi cat ion s/det ail / to-st op-w il dla n d-fir es-f o restry-no t -c lim a t e- policy-is-t h e - pri ority )). Whatev er s tates


This is_important for_way more than just_Presidential elections._It_helps
solve the_money_in politics problem_as well by_diluting power and making
representatives_more accountable.

------
HideousKojima
The fight_against_the electoral college is one of those things that misses the
forest for the trees._The_real problem_is_that_too much power has been_vested
in the federal government (and_in the_executive branch specifically), and too
much power has been_taken_from the states._People would care a lot less about
how the president_gets elected if he didn't have_so much control_over_the
entire_country.

~~~
compycom
I disagree. Consider our_inability to coordinate a proper pandemic_response,
or the current smoke catastrophe spanning_the west coast. The problems facing
our country_are increasingly national in scope, and_require coordinated
responses at the federal_level. I_believe our entrenched commitment to
federalism_and state's rights_is going_to hold us_back more and more in the
years_ahead.

~~~
throwawaysea
Why do you_think pandemic response or wildfire are_national_in scope? Both_can
be_handled_at the_state level. For_example_California, Oregon,_and_a
Washington could perform necessary controlled burning
([https://www.npr.org/2020/08/24/899422710/to-manage-
wildfire-...](https://www.npr.org/2020/08/24/899422710/to-manage-wildfire-
california-looks-to-what-tribes-have-known-all-along))_or_harvest trees on a
timely basis ([https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/19/us/california-
today-100-m...](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/19/us/california-
today-100-million-dead-trees-prompt-fears-of-giant-wildfires.html)), or_at
least stay in target_with_even their existing forest_management target, which
they haven’t ([https://www.washingtonpolicy.org/publications/detail/to-
stop...](https://www.washingtonpolicy.org/publications/detail/to-stop-
wildland-fires-forestry-not-climate-policy-is-the-priority))._Whatever states
