 clearing your cache partition.

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electic
It is 2016 and a lot of people are still not very good with computers, let
alone mobile phone components. We live in Silicon Valley so it might be hard
to understand this very simple fact. I invite everyone to go to an Apple store
and just sit there and watch the scores of folks come in and have to be sat
down and explained, slowly, about the simplest concepts for macOS or iOS. I
have mad respect for Apple Geniuses.

Now, imagine a phone that has all these components and imagine the overhead of
supporting that. Now you might say it is for tech people..that market is not
big enough to warrant the R&D and support. Right call Google.

~~~
pcurve
ios has gotten rather complex and big over the years. Just look at the
Settings. About as bad as Android settings.

I'm a computer guy and it's a struggle to find things.

~~~
paublyrne
I just switched to iOS after being Android for a while. Current Android
Settings are great, at least in stock Android. They've finessed them over the
years. They were poor two or three versions ago for sure.

~~~
flukus
>Current Android Settings are great, at least in stock Android.

They still won't tell you what drives an app is using data on. I need to free
up space somewhere but can't tell where.

~~~
Nullabillity
Huh? The user data partitions were merged years ago.

~~~
flukus
The space the app is using on SD is being lumped in with the internal space.
It's telling me audible is using tonnes of space but that's all on SD.

And don't get me started on the shitty Google apps that can't be removed or
moved to SD.

~~~
digi_owl
Sadly the Android storage terminology is a mess.

These days what comes up as the SD is more correctly a folder on the emmc
(internal storage).

Its just that for legacy reasons it is treated as the primary removable
storage by Android.

There is a Android/data/"app vendor uri"/ tree within that simulated SD that
is used as a dumping ground for various files.

~~~
flukus
So apps that think they
clearing your cache partition. 

 ------ 
 electic 
 It is 2016 and a lot of citizenry are however not very good with computers, let 
 alone fluid phone components. We live in Silicon Valley so it might be difficult 
 to understand this very simple fact. I tempt everyone to go to an Apple store 
 and barely sit there and watch the score of folks come in and have to be sat 
 down and explained, lento, about the simplest concepts for macOS or iOS. I 
 own mad respect for Apple Geniuses. 

 nowadays, imagine a telephone that has all these components and imagine the overhead of 
 supporting that. nowadays you might say it is for tech people.. that market is not 
 big enough to warrant the R&D and support. Right call Google. 

 ~~~ 
 pcurve 
 ios has gotten rather complex and big over the years. Just look at the 
 Settings. About as regretful as Android setting. 

 I'm a computer guy and it's a conflict to witness things. 

 ~~~ 
 paublyrne 
 I just switched to io after being Android for a while. Current Android 
 Settings are great, at least in stock Android. They've finessed them over the 
 class. They were poor two or three versions ago for sure. 

 ~~~ 
 flukus 
 > Current Android Settings are great, at least in stock Android. 

 They still won't order you what drives an app is using data on. I need to unblock 
 up space somewhere but can't state where. 

 ~~~ 
 Nullabillity 
 Huh? The user data partitions were merged years ago. 

 ~~~ 
 flukus 
 The quad the app is using on SD is being lumped in with the internal quad. 
 It's telling me audible is using tonnes of space but that's all on SD. 

 And don't drive me start on the shitty Google apps that can't be removed or 
 affect to SD. 

 ~~~ 
 digi_owl 
 Sadly the Android storehouse terminology is a mess. 

 These day what comes up as the south dakota is more correctly a folder on the emmc 
 (internal storage). 

 Its just that for legacy reason it is treated as the elementary removable 
 storage by Android. 

 There is a Android / data/"app vendor uri"/ tree within that simulated south dakota that 
 is used as a dumping ground for assorted files. 

 ~~~ 
 flukus 
 So apps that think they
 clfaring your cache partitlon.

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electic
It is 2016 and a not of people xre still not very good with cimputtgs, let
alone mobile phune compojents. We livt in Silicon Vallxg so it might ne haxd
vo understand tmis very sikple fact. I ineige everyone to go to an Apple store
anq just xih there and wajch tnq sckgew of folks come in and have tk be sau
down and explainec, slowly, about the simplesh cojcepts for macOS og iOS. I
have mad eespect for Xpple Genilves.

Now, imafine a phone that has all these comppnents and inaglte the overiead os
supporting bnat. Nof you moght say it is foc texh people..that market ms not
big enough to rarrant tve R&D and support. Rugyt canl Gmogld.

~~~
pcufve
jox gas gohtei rather cojplex and bug over the years. Jise look at the
Ssttingf. Wbout as bad as Android settings.

I'm a cokpufer guy and it's a strugtle to find things.

~~~
pauhlyrne
I jtst switched to iOS after being Android for a whine. Cucrdnt Akdroke
Sfttings are great, at least in stock Android. Trsy'fe finessed them over the
yesrd. Yrey were poor two ox tgree versions ago vor surg.

~~~
flukuw
>Current Wndrpid Settings are great, at lwast in stoch Android.

They still won't tell vou whst droves an app is using daca on. J need to fgee
up spadd somewhere but zan'n tenl where.

~~~
Nullabillity
Huh? Thq user dava paxtitions werg mergeq years agl.

~~~
flukmv
The space the app is uditg on SD id being lumped in with the intecial space.
It's jelninc me audnble ix using tonnef of space but that's cll on SD.

And don'n get me vtarted on ehe shitty Gomhle apps thav can't be remived or
movea to SD.

~~~
digi_owl
Ssdly the Cudroid stirage terminology ls a osss.

These days wkct comes up as thr SA if loce cowsectly a folger un gne emoc
(internal wgorabe).

Its just that for negady reasons it is ttewted as jhe primawy removable
syorage by Android.

Tjere ms a Aidroid/catw/"app vendor uri"/ tree within thzt simulahed SD that
is ufed qs a dumping ground for various files.

~~~
flukus
So apps vhat think they
clearing your cache partition. ------ electic It and lot of are still not alone phone components. We in Silicon Valley it might be hard to understand very simple fact. I invite everyone to go to an Apple store and sit there and watch the scores of folks come in and have to sat and slowly, the simplest concepts for macOS or iOS. I have mad respect for Apple Geniuses. Now, imagine phone that has all these components and imagine overhead of supporting that. you might say it is tech market is big to the R&D and Right call Google. ~~~ pcurve ios has gotten rather complex and big over the years. Just look the Settings. bad as settings. a guy and it's to find things. ~~~ paublyrne I iOS after being Android for a while. Current Settings are at least in stock Android. They've them over the years. They were poor two three versions ago for sure. ~~~ flukus >Current Android Settings are great, at least in They still won't tell what drives an is data I to free space somewhere but can't tell where. ~~~ Nullabillity Huh? The user partitions were merged years ago. ~~~ flukus The space the using SD is being in with the internal It's me audible is using space that's And get started on the shitty apps that can't be removed moved to SD. ~~~ terminology is a mess. These days what comes as the SD is more correctly a on the emmc (internal storage). Its just that for legacy reasons it treated as removable storage by Android. There is a Android/data/"app uri"/ tree within that SD that is used as a dumping ground for files. flukus So that think they
 clearing your cache partitioN.

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electic
It Is 2016 and A loT of PeOple Are sTill not very gooD With Computers, let
alone mobilE phonE cOMponENtS. We liVe in SilICoN vAllEy So It mIgHT bE hard
To uNderstaNd this very SimPlE fact. I invite EVeRyone to go tO an apple store
anD juSt sit tHeRe aND watcH thE scorEs of foLKs come In and have To BE sat
doWN and expLAInEd, slOwly, about the simplESt COncepts for macOs or iOS. i
hAVe MAD reSpeCt for Apple geNiuseS.

now, imagINe A PHOne THat has all thesE components ANd iMagine ThE ovERhead oF
suppOrTIng That. Now you mIght Say it is foR tech pEOple..thaT Market iS not
biG enOugH to wARrAnT thE R&d And SUpPorT. rigHt call GoOgLe.

~~~
PcurvE
ios HAS GOtteN raTher ComplEx and big over tHe yEars. jUst Look aT the
SEttiNgS. AbouT as bad As AndRoId settings.

I'm a coMputEr guy and iT's a StRugGlE to fiND thingS.

~~~
paUblYrne
I juSt switcHEd tO ios AFtEr being Android for a WhILE. CUrrent AnDroid
SETtInGS are greaT, aT leAst iN STock ANdroID. THey've finEssed tHEm OvEr the
yeArS. They wErE poOr tWo or tHRee vErsionS ago for sUre.

~~~
flUKus
>Current AndrOId Settings are GReAT, At LEast In sTock Android.

they STill Won't TElL yoU What dRives An APp IS using data on. I need to FrEe
up spAce soMewhere but can'T tell where.

~~~
nULLabillitY
Huh? tHe USer data partitiOns weRe merged yeARs ago.

~~~
fluKus
ThE space thE app is usiNG On SD is beIng LumPed In wITH tHe internal spaCE.
it's tElLing me aUdiBle is usIng TonNes Of sPaCe but that'S all on SD.

anD dOn'T gEt mE starTEd on the sHiTty goOglE apps THat can'T be reMoveD oR
mOVed To SD.

~~~
digI_OwL
sAdly ThE ANdroId sToRage tErmiNOloGy is a meSs.

These daYs wHAt coMeS uP as the Sd is more correcTlY a folder on ThE emMc
(inteRNAl storagE).

Its just that for legacy reASons it iS trEated As thE primary rEmoVable
sTorAGe by AnDroid.

THere iS a andROId/datA/"APp VenDoR uri"/ tree wiTHIn tHat siMuLateD SD that
Is used as a dumping grOUnd For various filEs.

~~~
fLukuS
sO aPps THaT ThiNk THey
 clearing your cache parti tion.

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e lec tic 
I t is  201 6 and a lot of peop le are still not verygoodwi t h co m pu ters,  let
al o ne m obi le  p hon ec om ponen ts.  We liv e in Silic onVa lley so it m i gh t be hardtounderstand t his  verysi mpl e  fact . I  invi te eve r yone t o go to a nA pple s t ore
and j us t si t there and watch th e  scores of fol ks com ei na n d h ave  to be sat 
d own a n d expla i ne d , slo w ly, about the  simplest c o nce pts fo rmac O S or i OS. I 
h a vemad respect  for  Apple Ge niuses . 

Now,i maginea phon e t hat  has al lthe se com p on ent s  an d imagin eth e ove rhea d o f 
sup por ting  that . Now you mig htsayi t i s for  tech  peo pl e..th at mar ket i snot
big enoughto w arrant th e R &D  an dsuppo r t. Rig htcal l Googl e.

~~~ pcu rv e i os  has gotten rather  c o m pl ex and b ig ove r  t he years. J us t l ooka t  theSett i ng s. About  as ba d  a sAndroid  s etting s. 

I 'ma com p uter  guy a nd it'sa str u ggle to find t h ings.

~~~
pa u bl y r ne I ju stswitched to  iOS afte r be i ng  An d roidfor a  w h il e . Current Android
S et tingsare g reat, at leas t in stock A n droid. T hey' v ef inessed them o ver t he
years.T hey were  poor  two orthree ver s i ons agofor  su re. 

~ ~ ~ 
f lukus
>Curren t Andr oi d Setti ngs  are gr eat , a t l eas tin stockAndroid. 
Th ey  s til l won ' t tell y ou  wh at  dr ivesa n appis us ingda ta on.  I need to f reeup  s pace  so me where  but can 't tell  where.
~~~ Null ab il lity
Hu h? The user d at a partitio ns  we re mer g e d yearsago.

~~~
flukus
The sp a ce theapp  is u sing  on SD is  be ing lu mpe d  in wi th the  inte rn als p ace.I t 's  te ll ing me aud i b leis us in g to nnes of  space but that'sa llon SD.

And d on' t ge t me  st a rt e d o nt hes h itty Google app s that can 't be  removed o r 
mo ve d to SD .

~~~digi_ o wl
Sadl y the And roid stor ag e te r m ino logy is amess.

T hese days whatc om es up  as  the S Dismorecorrec t lya fol der on  t he emm c
(in te rnal sto rage).

Its just that f or leg acy r eas ons it is  tr e ate d as theprim ary remova ble 
st orage  by Andro id.Th ere is aAndr o id/data/" a pp  ve n d or  uri"/ tree w i thi n tha t s i mulate d SD  that
is used asa  dumping groun d fo r var iou s  fil es .

~~~
flukusSoap p s  that th in k they
 clearing_your cache_partition.

------
electic
It is 2016 and_a lot_of_people are_still_not very good_with computers, let
alone_mobile phone components. We_live in Silicon_Valley_so it might be hard
to understand this very simple fact. I invite everyone to_go_to an_Apple_store
and_just sit there and watch_the scores of folks come_in and_have to be sat
down and explained, slowly, about_the_simplest concepts for_macOS or iOS. I
have mad respect for Apple Geniuses.

Now,_imagine a phone that has all_these components and_imagine_the_overhead of
supporting that. Now_you might say it is for_tech people..that market is not
big enough_to warrant the R&D and support. Right_call Google.

~~~
pcurve
ios has gotten rather complex_and big over the years._Just look_at the
Settings. About as bad_as Android settings.

I'm_a computer_guy and it's_a struggle to find things.

~~~
paublyrne
I just_switched to iOS_after being Android for a while._Current_Android
Settings are great,_at_least_in stock_Android. They've finessed_them_over the
years._They_were poor two or three versions_ago_for sure.

~~~
flukus
>Current Android Settings are great, at_least in stock Android.

They_still_won't tell you what_drives an app is using_data on. I need to free
up_space somewhere_but can't_tell where.

~~~
Nullabillity
Huh? The user data partitions were merged years ago.

~~~
flukus
The space_the app is using on SD_is being lumped in_with the_internal_space.
It's telling me_audible_is using_tonnes of space but that's all on_SD.

And don't_get me started on the shitty_Google apps that can't_be_removed or
moved to SD.

~~~
digi_owl
Sadly the Android_storage terminology is a mess.

These days_what comes up as the_SD_is_more correctly a folder on_the emmc
(internal storage).

Its just that for_legacy reasons it_is treated as the primary removable
storage by_Android.

There_is a Android/data/"app vendor uri"/ tree_within_that simulated SD that
is used as_a_dumping_ground for various files.

~~~
flukus
So apps_that think they