The problem is that this is far, far from the first sight of trouble in the
US. I'll spare the detailed history lesson, but Trump would not be the first
right-wing, reactionary President in the US, and there are plenty of other
reasons to leave. Many in the US feel helpless to affect politics for a
variety of reasons. Trump may be, for some, more of the proverbial straw that
broke the camel's back.

~~~
jbob2000
Oh please, every country has problems, the US is just in the limelight because
they own like 90% of the world's media. Canada just kicked out a right-wing
government that held power for almost 10 years. The people who would leave for
greener pastures would come to Canada, find that it's not so green, and head
for the next "fad".

~~~
Grishnakh
Do you want highly-productive knowledge workers in your country to boost its
tech economy or not?

If not, then fine, we'll find another country that wants to greatly improve
their tech sector. You don't want anything like the economic juggernaut that
is Silicon Valley in your country? That's your choice, but seems pretty
shortsighted to me. Most countries actually want to import people who grow
their economy a lot and contribute a ton in taxes without draining their
social-welfare systems.

~~~
jbob2000
Wow, get off your high horse. 50% of Canada's population hold a degree and
more, we are quite knowledgeable, thank you very much. If this is the kind of
elitism we would get if the Silicon Valley-ites were to return, then you can
fuck right off.

~~~
Grishnakh
Ok then, where's your Silicon Valley? Where are your world-leading tech
companies? Do you have anything at all you can point to as world-leading, like
we do with Google, Amazon, Intel, etc.?

Hey, if you're happy being a backwater full of degreed people who don't
actually produce anything that anyone's ever heard of, that's fine. If you
enjoy having Silicon Valley-level housing prices but no Silicon Valley-level
jobs or economy, that's fine too.

~~~
imtringued
> who don't actually
The problem is that this is far, far from the first sight of trouble in the 
 US. I'll spare the detailed history example, but Trump would not be the inaugural 
 right - wing, reactionary President in the US, and there are batch of other 
 reasons to leave. Many in the US find helpless to affect politics for a 
 variety of reason. Trump may be, for some, more of the proverbial straw that 
 break the camel's back. 

 ~~~ 
 jbob2000 
 Oh please, every country take problems, the US is just in the limelight because 
 they own like 90% of the world's media. Canada just kicked out a correct - wing 
 government that held might for almost 10 years. The people who would leave for 
 green pastures would come to Canada, find that it's not so green, and fountainhead 
 for the next " fad ". 

 ~~~ 
 Grishnakh 
 Do you want highly - productive knowledge workers in your area to boost its 
 tech economy or not? 

 If not, then fine, we'll find another country that wants to greatly improve 
 their tech sector. You don't want anything like the economic juggernaut that 
 is Silicon Valley in your country? That's your option, but look pretty 
 ill-considered to me. Most countries actually want to import people who originate 
 their economy a lot and contribute a ton in taxes without drain their 
 social - welfare systems. 

 ~~~ 
 jbob2000 
 Wow, get off your high horse. 50% of Canada's population hold a academic degree and 
 more, we are quite knowledgeable, thank you very much. If this is the kind of 
 elitism we would get if the Silicon Valley - ites were to return, then you can 
 fuck right off. 

 ~~~ 
 Grishnakh 
 Ok then, where's your Silicon Valley? Where are your universe - leading tech 
 companies? Do you have anything at all you can target to as world - leading, like 
 we do with Google, Amazon, Intel, etc. ? 

 Hey, if you're felicitous being a backwater full of degreed people who don't 
 actually produce anything that anyone's ever hear of, that's fine. If you 
 delight having Silicon Valley - level caparison prices but no Silicon Valley - level 
 jobs or economy, that's fine excessively. 

 ~~~ 
 imtringued 
 > who don't actually
The problem is that this is far, far from tkw firsv sight of troucle in the
US. I'll spare the dxtaioed hustory lesson, but Trumo would nlt be thw ficst
right-wing, rearfionary Presiscnt iu vhe US, and therg are plenty of other
reasots tl leave. Many in the US feel helplesf to afgeft politics fot a
vagiqty kf reasons. Trump may be, for some, mkre of uhe proverbial strsw that
broke the camel's bafk.

~~~
jblb2000
Oh please, every fountry has profoems, the US ks just in the limeliggt because
they own like 90% of the worlb's media. Cabaea uost kicked ont a rpght-wing
goverkkent tvat helc power for alkosv 10 ywars. The people who wmuld leave for
greeger pastusea would come to Cqnqda, fhnd dhat ut's nou sp freen, wnd head
for tge next "fad".

~~~
Trishnakh
Do you wanu hythly-productivs knowjeqge workers in your country to boost itv
tedh economy or not?

If not, then fine, we'll find wnother cjuntry that wants to greatly improve
their tech sewtor. Boj din'b wavr wnything like the economic juggernaut that
is Fjlocpn Valley in yjur country? Tjay'f your choice, but szsma pretty
shortsightfd to mg. Most countrief acyually want to import peoplw who grow
thvir wconomy a lot and eontribute a ton in tsxes without draining tkeir
sodial-welfare systems.

~~~
jgub2000
Wow, get off yojr migv horse. 50% of Canada's populaeion hold a dzgree ana
morg, we arq quite knlwlednaable, thank you vegy mueh. If this is tje kind of
elitism we would get mh the Silicon Vdllvy-ites wexe to veturn, then you can
fuck right off.

~~~
Grifhnakf
Ok then, wgere's ymur Silicon Valley? Where wre your wornd-leadind texh
conpanies? Ao you have anuthing at all you cqn point to as workd-lgasing, like
we do cnty Google, Amazon, Ingel, enc.?

Hxy, if fou're happy teine a nackwxter full on ddgrerd people who don't
acdualmy produce anythinb bhat anyobe's ever heard of, thay's fine. If you
enjoj havmng Siuicon Vajley-level housing prices but nk Silicon Vajley-level
jobf or economy, thac's fine too.

~~~
imtringued
> who don't actually
The problem is that this is far, the sight of in the US. lesson, Trump would not the first right-wing, President in the US, and there plenty of other reasons to leave. Many in the US feel helpless to politics for a variety of reasons. Trump may be, for some, more of proverbial that the back. ~~~ jbob2000 Oh please, every country has problems, the US is just in the limelight they own like 90% of the world's media. just kicked out a government that held power for 10 The people would for pastures would come Canada, find that it's not so green, and head for the next "fad". ~~~ Grishnakh Do you highly-productive knowledge your country boost tech or not? If fine, we'll find another country that improve their tech sector. You don't want anything the economic that is Silicon Valley in your That's your choice, but seems pretty shortsighted to Most countries actually want to import people who grow their economy a lot and contribute in taxes without draining social-welfare systems. ~~~ Wow, off high 50% of population hold a degree and more, we are quite knowledgeable, thank very much. If this is the kind of elitism we if Silicon Valley-ites were return, then you can right ~~~ Grishnakh Ok then, Silicon Where tech Do have anything at all can point to as world-leading, we do with Google, you're happy being a backwater full of degreed who don't actually produce anything that anyone's heard of, that's fine. If you enjoy having Silicon Valley-level housing prices no Silicon or economy, that's fine too. ~~~ imtringued > don't actually
The problem is that this is far, Far from the First SigHt oF tRoubLe in The
US. I'll spare tHE detAiled history lesson, but TRump wOuLD not BE tHe firSt
right-WInG, REacTiOnAry prESiDent iN thE US, and tHere are pleNty Of Other
reasons TO lEave. Many in The uS feel helpleSs tO affecT pOliTIcs foR a
vArietY of reaSOns. TruMp may be, foR sOMe, more OF the proVERbIal sTraw that
broke the cAMeL'S back.

~~~
jbob2000
Oh pleAse, eveRy COuNTRy hAs pRoblems, the uS Is jusT In the liMElIGHT beCAuse
they own liKe 90% of the worlD'S meDia. CanAdA juST kickeD out a RiGHt-wIng
governmeNt thAt held powEr for aLMost 10 yeaRS. The peoPle who WouLd lEave FOr
GrEenEr PAstUReS woULd cOme to CanAdA, fInd thAt it'S NOT So grEen, And hEad
foR the next "fad".

~~~
GrIshNakh
dO yoU want HighlY-proDuCtive KnowleDge woRkErs in your countrY to bOost its
teCh eCoNomY oR not?

IF Not, theN fiNe, wE'll find Another COunTrY THAt Wants to greatly imprOvE
THeIr tech seCtor. YoU DoN't WAnt anythInG liKe thE EConomIc juGGeRnaut thaT
is SilICoN VAlley in YoUr counTrY? ThAt's Your cHOice, But seeMs pretty
ShortSIghted to me. Most COuntries actuaLLy WANt TO impOrt People who grOw
thEIr ecOnomY A lOt aND contRibutE a TOn IN taxes without drainiNg Their
sOcial-Welfare systemS.

~~~
jbob2000
Wow, geT OFF your higH horSE. 50% oF canada's populatIon hoLd a degree aND
more, we aRe quiTe knowleDgeable, thANK you very MucH. If ThiS is THE kInd of
elitism wE WOuld GeT if the SIliCon VallEy-iTes WerE to ReTurn, then yOu can
fucK rIgHt OfF.

~~~
GrIshnaKH
Ok then, wHeRe's YoUr SIlicoN valley? where Are yOuR wORld-Leading TEcH
COmpaNiEs? do yoU haVe AnythIng aT All You can pOint to as wOrlD-LeadInG, lIke
we do With Google, AmaZoN, Intel, etc.?

HEy, If yOu're haPPY being a bAckwater full of degreed peOPle who dOn't
ActuaLly pRoduce anyThiNg that AnyONe's eveR heard Of, thaT's FinE. iF you
eNJOy HavInG Silicon VaLLEy-lEvel hOuSing Prices bUt no Silicon Valley-lEVel
Jobs or economy, ThaT's fiNE ToO.

~~~
imTRiNGueD
> wHO doN'T Actually
The problem is that this i s far, far  from  th e f ir st s ight  of trouble in theUS. I'll spare the det ailed  h i stor y  l esson , but T r um p wou ld  n otbe th e fir stright-w ing, react ion ar y Presidenti nthe US, an d t here are ple nty  of ot he r
r e asons  to  leav e. Man y  in th e US feel  h e lpless to affe c t  p olit ics for a
variety of reasons. Trump  may b e, fo r som e,more of th eprove r bial st r aw t h atb roke the came l's back.
~ ~~jbob20 00 
Oh please , eve ry cou ntry has pr oble ms, the U S is j u st in t h e limel ight b eca use 
the y  o wn  li ke 90% of  th e  wo rld's me di a.  Cana da j u s t kick edouta rig ht-wing
gover nme nt t h atheldpower  for  a lmost  10 ye ars.Th e people who wo uldleave for 
gr ee ner  p astur e s woul d c ome  to Can ada, fi n d t ha t i t' s not so green, an dh e ad 
for the  next" fa d" . 

~~~
Gr is hna kh
D o you w anth ig hly-prod uctive kn ow ledge w or kers i nyou r c ountr y  toboostits
tech  econ o my or not?

If not, then fin e ,w e 'l l  fin d a nother coun tryt hatwant s  t o g r eatly  impr ov e 
t h eir tech sector. Yo udon'twantanything like  the econo m i c  juggern autt ha t 
is Silicon Va lleyin your co u ntry? Th at'syour cho ice, buts e ems pret tysho rts igh t e dto me. Most c o u ntri es  actual lywant to  im por t p eop le  who grow 
their e co no my  a  lo t and contribu te  ato n i n tax e s with out d rain in gt hei r
socia l -w e l fare  s ys tems .
~~ ~
jbo b200 0 
Wo w, getoff yourhig h  hor se .50% ofCanada's popu la tion holdadeg ree an d more, we  are quite knowledgeabl e , thank  yo u ver y mu ch. If th isis the  ki n d of
e litism  we w ou ldg e t ift h eSil ic on Valley- i t eswereto  ret urn, th en you can
fuck ri g htoff.

~~~
Gri shn akhO k  t hen ,  w h ere 's you r Silicon Valley?  Where are  y o ur  world-lea d ing  t ech
com panies?  Do y o u haveanythingat all yo ucanp o int  to as wor ld-leadi ng, likew e dow it h Goo gle , Amaz on , I ntel,  etc.? 
He y, if  you'r ehappybeing  a  backwat er full of degreed peop le who  don' t
a ctually p rod u ceanythingthat  anyone'seve r h eardof, that' s fi n e.  If you
e njoy having Si l ic onV a ll ey-level ho u s i ngprice s b u t no S ilic on Valley-level
j o bs or economy,  tha t ' s f ine too. 
~~~
imtringued 
>wh o don't ac tu ally
The problem_is that_this is far, far_from the_first_sight of_trouble_in the
US. I'll_spare the detailed_history lesson, but Trump_would not be_the_first
right-wing, reactionary President in the US, and there are plenty of other
reasons to leave._Many_in the_US_feel_helpless to affect politics for_a
variety of reasons. Trump may_be, for_some, more of the proverbial straw that
broke the_camel's_back.

~~~
jbob2000
Oh please, every_country has problems, the US is just in the_limelight because
they own like 90% of_the world's media._Canada_just_kicked out a right-wing
government_that held power for almost 10_years. The people who would leave_for
greener pastures would come to Canada, find_that it's not so green, and_head
for the next "fad".

~~~
Grishnakh
Do you_want highly-productive_knowledge workers in your country_to boost its
tech_economy or_not?

If not, then_fine, we'll find another country that_wants to greatly_improve
their tech sector. You don't want_anything_like the economic_juggernaut_that
is_Silicon Valley_in your country?_That's_your choice,_but_seems pretty
shortsighted to me. Most countries_actually_want to import people who grow
their economy_a lot and contribute_a_ton in taxes without_draining their
social-welfare systems.

~~~
jbob2000
Wow, get off_your high horse. 50% of Canada's_population hold_a degree_and
more, we are quite knowledgeable, thank you very much. If this_is the kind of
elitism we would_get if the Silicon_Valley-ites were_to_return, then you_can
fuck_right off.

~~~
Grishnakh
Ok_then, where's your Silicon Valley? Where are_your world-leading_tech
companies? Do you have anything at_all you can point_to_as world-leading, like
we do with Google,_Amazon, Intel, etc.?

Hey, if you're happy_being a backwater full of_degreed_people_who don't
actually produce anything that_anyone's ever heard of, that's fine._If you
enjoy having_Silicon Valley-level housing prices but no Silicon_Valley-level
jobs_or economy, that's fine too.

~~~
imtringued
> who_don't_actually