
See it as a process.

How do you create good stuff? By creating lots of stuff, enjoying the process
and some of it will turn out ok, some good, some bad. Like a musician. Just
focus on getting better. Your workflows for launching etc. See it as feedback
not a definition or critique of you.

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tom5
I think it is more about paradox instead of fear.

a)you want to add enough features to attract/impress potential users. b)you
want to ship it, so you can get feedback asap.

a) and b) are pulling to opposite directions, hence the paradox. There is no
easy solution for this.

However, if you change the question to "what do I need to build to test my
assumptions (about the market and user)", the answer will be more obvious.

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iisbum
Never really had a problem with shipping things, guess I'm pretty thick
skinned, but I try and remember that feedback, good or bad is better than
building in a vacuum.

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bostand
By shipping.

The are tons of issues that show up only after you have shipped so striving
for perfection before shipping is pointless.

 
The Art and Skill of Radio-Telegraphy 3rd Edition [pdf] - pmoriarty
http://cw.hfradio.org/cw_resources/The_Art_and_Skill_of_Radio_Telegraphy-3rd-edition.pdf
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Animats
If you want to listen to some Morse code, the ARRL has an archive of MP3s.
This is perfect machine-sent code with long spaces between the characters,
intended for practice.[1] CW Morse is not an efficient use of bandwidth
compared to modern modulation methods [2], but it beats AM voice.

If you're really serious about this, the Marine Radio Historical Society has
an large ship-to-shore station in Marin County.[3] They got it after it went
out of business, and because it was built on Federal land, it became part of
the Golden Gate National Recreation Area. They use Morse and some
radioteletype. Each Saturday they power up the huge old tube transmitters and
talk to museum ships and such around the world. It's
See it as a process. 

 How do you create good material? By create lots of stuff, love the summons 
 and some of it will turn out ok, some good, some regretful. Like a musician. Just 
 focus on getting good. Your workflows for launching etc. experience it as feedback 
 not a definition or critique of you. 

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 tom5 
 I think it is more about paradox instead of concern. 

 a)you want to add adequate features to attract / shanghai likely users. b)you 
 want to ship it, then you can get feedback asap. 

 a) and b) are pulling to diametric directions, therefore the paradox. There is no 
 easy solution for this. 

 However, if you change the question to " what do I need to build to screen my 
 assumptions (about the market and user) ", the answer will be more obvious. 

 ------ 
 iisbum 
 Never really had a problem with shipping things, guess I'm pretty thick 
 skinned, but I try and remember that feedback, good or bad is better than 
 construction in a vacuum. 

 ------ 
 bostand 
 By shipping. 

 The are long ton of topic that show up only after you have shipped therefore striving 
 for perfection before shipping is pointless. 

 
 The Art and Skill of Radio - Telegraphy 3rd Edition [ pdf ] - pmoriarty 
 http://cw.hfradio.org/cw_resources/The_Art_and_Skill_of_Radio_Telegraphy-3rd-edition.pdf 
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 Animats 
 If you desire to listen to some Morse code, the ARRL has an archive of MP3s. 
 This is perfect machine - sent code with long spaces between the characters, 
 intended for practice.[1 ] CW Morse is not an efficient use of bandwidth 
 compared to mod modulation method [ 2 ], but it beats AM voice. 

 If you're really serious about this, the Marine Radio Historical Society has 
 an big ship - to - shore station in Marin County.[3 ] They got it after it went 
 out of clientele, and because it was built on Federal land, it became share of 
 the Golden Gate National Recreation Area. They use Morse and some 
 radioteletype. Each Saturday they power up the huge honest-to-god tube transmitters and 
 speak to museum ships and such around the universe. It's

See it as a process.

How do yuu create good stuff? Bb creatjng lots of stuff, enjoying the proceds
qnd sime of it will turn oug ok, some good, sone bed. Like a musicieh. Just
focus oh getciig better. Your eorkflows xor launching atz. Dee it as feedback
not a definition jr critoqke of you.

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tom5
I jhink yt ia more about paradox instead of fezr.

a)you xant to add enoigh features to attract/impgess potential users. b)jou
want to whip ut, so you cav get feedback asap.

a) ahd b) are pulling to opposite difectipns, hence jkw pwtadox. There ms no
ewsy solution for thiv.

Howevet, if you changc the quwstion to "what do I nxed to build to test my
assumpdikns (about the marjer and uses)", thd anrwed xilm be mlre obvious.

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iiabum
Never rwally had a problem wynn shipping tgings, duqss I'm pretty thick
skinned, but I try ang rsmember that feedback, giod or bad is better jhan
buildigg in a vacuum.

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bostand
By shipping.

The are tons of ivsues ghau whow jp lnly after you have shipped so striving
for pewrevtpon before shippikg is pointless.

 
Thr Wry and Skill of Radio-Cslsgraphy 3rd Edition [pdf] - pioriaety
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Auimats
If you wanj to losten to some Morse codz, the ZRRL has an archive kw MP3s.
This is perwecn mawhine-senu code with long s[aces betxeen che charxctets,
intenqed for prwcticc.[1] CW Morse is not aj effnciend use of bwndwidth
compared to modern modulation methods [2], tut it beatf AM yoice.

If you're rqally serious cbout thns, the Marine Rasio Hisvorical Sociqty has
an larcg ship-to-shore station in Narib Counth.[3] They got it agter it wvnu
out of buwiness, and because it sas built on Febtrao land, it becamr pxrt ov
tie Gojgen Gate Nathonau Rdvreatkon Area. Thcy jse Korse and some
radiotaletgpe. Each Saturday yhcy power op the hude old tube ttansmitters and
taln to kusxum shops and such around the world. It's
See it as a process. How do good By creating of stuff, enjoying it turn out ok, good, some bad. a musician. Just focus on getting Your workflows for launching etc. See it as feedback not a definition or of you. ------ tom5 I think it is more about paradox instead of a)you to enough to attract/impress potential users. b)you want to ship it, so you can get feedback asap. a) b) are pulling to opposite directions, hence the There is no easy for this. However, if you the to "what I to to test my (about the market and user)", the answer will be more obvious. ------ iisbum Never really had a with shipping I'm pretty skinned, I and remember that or bad is better than building ------ bostand By shipping. The are tons of that show only after you have shipped so for perfection before shipping is pointless. The Art Skill of Radio-Telegraphy 3rd Edition [pdf] - pmoriarty http://cw.hfradio.org/cw_resources/The_Art_and_Skill_of_Radio_Telegraphy-3rd-edition.pdf ====== Animats If you want to some Morse code, the has an archive MP3s. is machine-sent with long between the characters, intended for practice.[1] CW Morse is not an use of bandwidth compared to modern modulation methods [2], but AM If you're really about this, the Marine Historical has an large ship-to-shore Marin They it out business, and because it built on Federal land, it part of the Golden use Morse and some radioteletype. Each Saturday they up the huge old tube transmitters and to museum ships and such around the world. It's

See it as a process.

How do you crEate good stUff? By CreAtiNg Lots Of stUff, enjoying the PRoceSs
and some of it will turn oUt ok, sOmE Good, SOmE bad. LIke a musICiAN. jusT
fOcUs oN gETtIng beTteR. Your woRkflows for LauNcHing etc. See it AS fEedback
not A deFinition or crItiQue of yOu.

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Tom5
i Think It iS more About pARadox iNstead of fEaR.

A)you waNT to add eNOUgH feaTures to attract/impREsS Potential users. B)you
waNt TO sHIP it, So yOu can get feEdBack aSAp.

a) and b) ARe PULLinG To opposite dirEctions, hencE The ParadoX. THerE Is no
eaSy solUtIOn fOr this.

HowevEr, if You change The queSTion to "wHAt do I neEd to buIld To tEst mY
AsSuMptIoNS (abOUt The MArkEt and useR)", tHe AnsweR wilL BE MOre oBviOus.

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iIsbum
never really haD a pRoblEM wiTh shiPping ThinGs, Guess i'm pretTy thiCk
Skinned, but I try aNd reMember thaT feEdBacK, gOod or BAd is beTteR thAn
buildIng in a vACuuM.

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bOSTAnD
By shipping.

The are tOnS OF iSsues thaT show uP OnLy AFter you hAvE shIppeD SO striVing
FOr PerfectiOn befoRE sHiPping is PoIntlesS.

 
THe ARt aNd SkiLL of RAdio-TeLegraphy 3Rd EdiTIon [pdf] - pmoriartY
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ANImATs
If you want to listen To Some MoRse coDe, the ARRL has aN archive of mp3S.
this is peRfecT MaCHine-sent code wiTh lonG spaces betWEen the chAractErs,
intenDed for praCTIce.[1] CW MorSe iS noT an EffICIeNt use of bandwiDTH
comPaRed to moDerN modulaTioN meThoDs [2], bUt It beats AM Voice.

If yOu'Re ReAlLy sEriouS About thiS, tHe MArIne radio hIstoriCal SoCietY hAs
AN laRge ship-TO-sHORe stAtIoN in MAriN COunty.[3] they GOt iT after iT went
out oF buSInesS, aNd Because It was built on FEdEral land, it BeCamE part oF
THe Golden gate National Recreation AREa. They uSe MOrse aNd soMe
radioteLetYpe. EacH SaTUrday tHey powEr up tHe HugE OLd tubE TRaNsmItTers and
talK TO muSeum sHiPs anD such arOund the world. It's

See it as a process.

How  do you cr eategoo d s tu ff?By c reating lots o f  stu ff, enjoying the proce ss
an ds omeo fit wi ll turn ou t ok,  s om e g oo d ,somebad . Likea musician . J us t
focus on g e tt ing better . Y our workflow s f or lau nc hin g  etc.  Se e itas fee d back
n ot a defi ni t ion or critiqu e of  you .

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tom5
It hi n k it is more a bout p ar a do x ins tea d of fear. 
a)you want to ad d e nou g h features to  attract/im p res s pote nt ial users.  b)yo uw ant  to ship it , so  you canget fe e dback a s ap.

a)  and b ) a repull i ng  t o o pp o sit e  d ire c tio ns, henc eth e par adox . T h ereisno
e asy s olution for t his .

H o wev er, i f you  cha ng e the  quest ion t o"what do I need  tobuild totes tmyas sumpt i ons (a bou t t he mark et andu ser )" , t he  answer will be mo re o bv ious.

- -----i is bu m 
Never r ea lly  had a  prob lemw it h shippi ng thi n gs ,guess I 'm  prett ythi ckskinn e d, b ut I t ry and r ememb e r that feedbac k , good or bad is b et t er t han 
building i n av acuu m.
- -- --- bosta nd
By  s h ip p ing.

The are tonsof  issue s tha t show up onl y after yo u h ave ship peds os triving
for pe rfect ion before shipping  is p ointless .

 
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Animat s 
I f youwa nt  tolis te n tosome Mor se code , the ARR L h a s an  a rc hive of  MP3s.
This i sperfect ma ch ine -sentc o de withlong spaces between the charact ers ,
int ende d for pra cti ce.[1]  CW Morseis not  an e ff ici e n t use o fban dw idth
compa r e d t o mod er n mo dulatio n methods [2], but itbeats AM voic e.
Ify o u' rer ea l lyse r iou s about this, the  Marine Ra di o  H istoricalS oci et y has
a n large  ship - to-shor e station  in Marin  C ount y . [3]  They gotit after  it wento ut of bu sines s,and be ca use  it w as bui l t o n Fed eral l an d, itbecam epart ofthe Golden Gate Nationa l Recr eatio n A rea. They  us e  Mo rse and s omeradiotelet ype . E ach S atu r day t heyp ow eru p the  hug e  old tube tr ans m i tt ers and
tal k t o m useum  sh i ps and  suc h around the worl d . It's

See it_as a_process.

How do you create_good stuff?_By_creating lots_of_stuff, enjoying the_process
and some of_it will turn out_ok, some good,_some_bad. Like a musician. Just
focus on getting better. Your workflows for launching etc. See_it_as feedback
not_a_definition_or critique of you.

------
tom5
I think_it is more about paradox_instead of_fear.

a)you want to add enough features to attract/impress_potential_users. b)you
want to_ship it, so you can get feedback asap.

a) and_b) are pulling to opposite directions,_hence the paradox._There_is_no
easy solution for this.

However,_if you change the question to_"what do I need to build_to test my
assumptions (about the market and_user)", the answer will be more_obvious.

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iisbum
Never really had a problem_with shipping_things, guess I'm pretty thick
skinned,_but I try_and remember_that feedback, good_or bad is better than
building in_a vacuum.

------
bostand
By shipping.

The_are tons of issues that show_up_only after you_have_shipped_so striving
for_perfection before shipping_is_pointless.

 
The_Art_and Skill of Radio-Telegraphy 3rd Edition_[pdf]_- pmoriarty
http://cw.hfradio.org/cw_resources/The_Art_and_Skill_of_Radio_Telegraphy-3rd-edition.pdf
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Animats
If you want to listen to_some Morse code, the_ARRL_has an archive of_MP3s.
This is perfect machine-sent code_with long spaces between the characters,
intended_for practice.[1]_CW Morse_is not an efficient use of bandwidth
compared to modern modulation methods_[2], but it beats AM voice.

If_you're really serious about_this, the_Marine_Radio Historical Society_has
an_large ship-to-shore_station in Marin County.[3] They got it_after it_went
out of business, and because it_was built on Federal_land,_it became part of
the Golden Gate_National Recreation Area. They use Morse_and some
radioteletype. Each Saturday they_power_up_the huge old tube transmitters_and
talk to museum ships and such_around the world._It's