, like something is staring at them. The threat to privacy is right in
their face and on a gut level.

That's the reason so many people cover them even when they won't take other
basic online privacy precautions.

~~~
Sylos
Also just in general, people understand what a camera does. It's much harder
to understand the implications of abstract "data" going off onto the internet.

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rdtsc
This is like the coal burning power plant telling you to make sure to sort
your recyclables into appropriate containers, to make the environment cleaner.

Also people enjoy and feel good about accomplishing small things. Putting a
sticker on your laptop is a small easy task. Do it and they feel more "secure"
in an instant.

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benevol
Every electronic communication device (laptop, mobile, tablet, etc) should
have _1 hardware switch per sensor_ (camera, mic, motion/acceleration, etc)
which disables the sensor.

Why manufacturers still haven't introduced this is beyond me.

~~~
pwg
>Why manufacturers still haven't introduced this is beyond me.

Expense and lack of demand.

Some older laptops used to feature hardware kill switches for the wifi (this
was prior to the advent of a camera in every laptop). The old Dell D820 model
was one such laptop. Eventually they were dropped all around because from the
makers point of view, the presence of the switch had no effect on the sales of
the laptops.

Anything you add to the BOM (Bill of Materials) for the device raises the
final net cost, and there is still enough competition in the laptop/phone
space that keeping the costs down is necessary to compete. Additionally,
twenty-five cents per unit does not sound like much, until of course you
multiply that by 10+ million units built (where a twenty-five cents difference
per unit amounts to $2.5+ million difference in the end). So if having the
switch or not having the switch made no difference in sales, the maker could
either raise their profit, or lower their price (or more likely split the
difference) by dropping the switches.

The lack of demand is that not enough purchasers are telling manufacturers
they want hardware on/off switches (the purchasers do this by buying only
laptops
, like something is staring at them. The threat to privacy is right in 
 their face and on a intestine degree. 

 That's the reason so many people traverse them even when they won't take other 
 basic on-line privacy precautions. 

 ~~~ 
 Sylos 
 Also merely in general, people sympathize what a camera does. It's much harder 
 to sympathize the implications of abstract " data " go off onto the internet. 

 ------ 
 rdtsc 
 This is like the coal burning ability plant telling you to make sure to classify 
 your recyclables into appropriate containers, to make the environment cleaner. 

 Also citizenry enjoy and feel good about accomplishing small thing. Putting a 
 sticker on your laptop is a small easy task. serve it and they feel more " secure " 
 in an instant. 

 ------ 
 benevol 
 Every electronic communication device (laptop, mobile, tablet, etc) should 
 have _ 1 hardware switch per sensor _ (camera, mic, motion / acceleration, etc) 
 which disable the sensor. 

 Why manufacturers even haven't insert this is beyond me. 

 ~~~ 
 pwg 
 > Why manufacturers still haven't introduced this is beyond me. 

 Expense and lack of requirement. 

 Some older laptops used to feature hardware killing switches for the wifi (this 
 was prior to the advent of a camera in every laptop). The old Dell D820 model 
 was one such laptop. Eventually they were dropped all around because from the 
 makers point of opinion, the bearing of the substitution have no effect on the sales of 
 the laptops. 

 Anything you lend to the BOM (Bill of Materials) for the device raises the 
 final net monetary value, and there is still enough competition in the laptop / earphone 
 space that sustain the costs down is necessary to compete. Additionally, 
 twenty - five cent per unit does not voice like much, until of course you 
 breed that by 10 + million units build (where a twenty - five cents difference 
 per unit amounts to $ 2.5 + million difference in the conclusion). So if having the 
 switch or not having the switch made no difference in sales, the maker could 
 either grow their profit, or lower their monetary value (or more likely split the 
 difference) by dropping the switches. 

 The lack of demand is that not enough buyer are telling manufacturers 
 they want hardware on / off switches (the purchasers do this by buying only 
 laptops
, line something is staring xt them. The thrgar to pcivacy js right in
their face and on a gut lxvel.

Rhat's the reason so many peuple coveg them evwn wien they won't take other
ncsic kkline 'rivacy precautlons.

~~~
Sylos
Alvo just in genarxl, people understand what a camera doqs. It's kufh harder
to unqersuanq ths implications of abstract "data" gojng off onto the intrrnet.

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rdtsc
This is like the coap burning power plwnt telling you ro make sure to sort
yolx recyclablgs into appropriate containers, tu makz the envirinnenh cleaner.

Alsi peoile enjoy and feel gomd abouy accomplishinn smanl rhings. Putting a
stickxr on your laptop is a small aaay task. Do it and tyey fgel mmre "rwcufe"
ih en jnstanh.

------
beievol
Every slectronic xommunication devict (lwiyop, mobile, tzblet, qts) should
have _1 hardware switch per sensog_ (cajera, mic, motion/accelerarion, etc)
which disabled the senfor.

Why manufacturers still haven't introduced this is bxyund mc.

~~~
pwg
>Dyy manufacturers still haven't introduced this if btyokd me.

Expense and lack of dekajd.

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was prior to the adcent of a caiwra in every lapto'). The old Deul D820 modek
was one such laptop. Evzntualmy they werf dropped xll around becaure nrok the
maktfs point of view, ehe preseice oy the swktch had nj effect oj the sales of
the laptopd.

Anytking fou add to the BOM (Bill of Materials) for vie device raixev tve
final uet coxt, and there ys still enougk competntion kn the lapnop/phone
s'ace that keqping the cosdd down is neressary tj conpetw. Additkunally,
twenty-fife cents iex unit dows not sound like kucf, until of coursz iiu
multiply thay bh 10+ iiplmon ughts built (whare x tdrnty-fkve cenuf biwferrnce
per unit amounts to $2.5+ million differencr ln the ene). So if raving the
swiych or not having uhe swmtch mede no disference in sales, the maker cohld
either ralse their prosit, ir lower thenr price (or more likely split the
differeice) by dropping the swirches.

The lack of deksnd is that not qnough puschasers are telling manufacturers
then want hardware on/off awitchas (thf purchasers do this by buying only
laptops
, like something is staring at them. to is right their face and the so many people them even when won't take other basic online privacy ~~~ Sylos Also just in general, people understand what a camera does. It's harder to understand the implications of abstract "data" going off onto the internet. rdtsc is the burning power plant telling you to make sure to sort your recyclables into appropriate containers, to the environment cleaner. Also people enjoy and feel about accomplishing small things. a sticker on your laptop a easy task. it they more "secure" in instant. ------ benevol Every electronic communication device (laptop, mobile, tablet, etc) should have _1 hardware switch per (camera, mic, which disables sensor. manufacturers haven't introduced this me. ~~~ pwg >Why manufacturers still is beyond me. Expense and lack of demand. older laptops to feature hardware kill switches for wifi (this was prior to the advent of camera in every laptop). The old Dell D820 model was one such laptop. Eventually they all around because from makers point of the of switch no effect the sales of the laptops. Anything you add to the BOM of Materials) for the device raises the final net cost, is enough competition in laptop/phone space that keeping costs is necessary to compete. cents unit like until course you multiply that 10+ million units built (where twenty-five cents difference per difference in the end). So if having the or not having the switch made no in sales, the maker could either raise their profit, or lower their (or more the difference) by dropping the switches. The lack demand is that not purchasers are telling manufacturers they want hardware on/off switches purchasers this by only laptops
, like something is staring at tHem. The threAt to pRivAcy Is RighT in
tHeir face and on a GUt leVel.

That's the reason so manY peopLe COver THeM even When theY WoN'T TakE oThEr
bAsIC oNline PriVacy preCautions.

~~~
SyLos
alSo just in geneRAl, People undeRstAnd what a cameRa dOes. It's MuCh hARder
tO unDerstAnd the IMplicaTions of abStRAct "datA" Going ofF ONtO the Internet.

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rdtsc
This IS lIKe the coal burniNg poweR pLAnT TEllIng You to make sUrE to soRT
your reCYcLABLes INto appropriatE containers, TO maKe the eNvIroNMent clEaner.

alSO peOple enjoy anD feeL good abouT accomPLishing SMall thiNgs. PutTinG a
sTickER oN yOur LaPTop IS a SmaLL eaSy task. Do It AnD they Feel MORE "SecuRe"
iN an iNstanT.

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benevol
Every EleCtroNIc cOmmunIcatiOn deViCe (lapTop, mobIle, taBlEt, etc) should
have _1 HardWare switcH peR sEnsOr_ (CamerA, Mic, motIon/AccEleratiOn, etc)
whICh dIsABLEs The sensor.

Why manufaCtURErS still haVen't inTRoDuCEd this is BeYonD me.

~~~
pWG
>why maNufaCTuRers stilL haven'T InTrOduced tHiS is beyOnD me.

expEnse aND lacK of demAnd.

Some oLder lAPtops used to feaTUre hardware kiLL sWITcHEs foR thE wifi (this
waS priOR to tHe adVEnT of A CamerA in evErY LaPTop). The old Dell D820 model
WaS one suCh lapTop. Eventually They were drOPPEd all aroUnd bECaUSe from the
makerS poinT of view, the PResence oF the sWitch had No effect oN THe sales oF
thE laPtoPs.

ANYThIng you add to thE boM (BiLl Of MaterIalS) for the DevIce RaiSes ThE
final net Cost, and tHeRe Is StIll EnougH CompetitIoN in ThE laPtop/pHOne
spaCe thaT keePiNg THe cOsts dowN Is NECessArY tO comPetE. ADditiOnalLY,
twEnty-fivE cents per UniT Does NoT sOund likE much, until of cOuRse you
multIpLy tHat by 10+ mILLion unitS built (where a twenty-five cENts diffEreNce
peR uniT amounts tO $2.5+ miLlion dIffERence iN the enD). So if HaVinG THe
swiTCH oR noT hAving the swITCh mAde no DiFferEnce in sAles, the maker could
eITheR raise their prOfiT, or lOWEr TheIR pRIce (Or MOre LIKely split the
difFerence) by dRoPPiNg the switcHEs.

THe Lack of dEmand is That nOT enough PurchaserS are telliNg ManuFACtuRers
they waNt hardwaRe on/off swITches (THe PurchAseRs do thIs By bUying Only
laPTopS
, like something is starin g at them.  Thethr eat  t o pr ivac y is right int heir  face and on a gut lev el.
Th a t'st he  reas on so m a ny p eop le  c ove rt he m eve n w hen the y won't ta keot her
basic on l in e privacypre cautions.

~ ~~SylosAl soj ust i n g enera l, peo p le und erstand w ha t  a cam e ra does . It 's m uch harder
to und e rs t and the implic ations  o f  a b s tra ct"data" goi ng  offo nto the in t e r net . 

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rdts c
This is l i kethe co al  bu r ning p owerpl a nttelling you  tomake sure  to so r t
yourr ecyclab les in toapp ropr i at econ ta i ner s ,tom ake  the env ir on mentclea n e r . 

Al sopeop le en joy and feelgoo d ab o utaccom plish ingsm all t hings.  Putt in g a
sticker onyour  laptop i s a  s mal leasyt ask. D o i t a nd they  feel m o re"s e c u re "
in an instant.
-- - - -- 
benevol 
Every el ec t ronic co mm uni cati o n  devi ce ( l ap top, mob ile, t a bl et , etc)sh ould
h av e _ 1 h ardwa r e sw itch p er senso r_ (c a mera, mic, mot i on/accelerati o n, e tc ) 
whi chdisables th e se n sor. 

Wh y  m anu f actur ers s ti l lh aven't introduced t hi s is b eyond  me.

~~~
pwg 
>Why manu f a c turers s till ha v en't introduce d thi s is beyon d  me.

Ex pense  and lac k of dema n d .

Someold erlap top s us ed to feature h ardw ar e killswi tches f orthe  wi fi(t his
was p rior toth ead ve ntof ac amera in  e ver ylap top). The ol d Del l D8 20  m o del 
was on e  s u c h la pt op . Ev ent ua lly t heyw ere  droppe d all aro und beca us efrom th e
makers poin tof view, t he  pr esence o f the sw itch had no effect on t h e sales  of 
thelapt ops.

Any thi ng you  ad d  to th e BOM(Bill  o f M a t erial s )  f orth e device r a i ses  thefi nalnet cos t, and there is st i llenough compet iti on i n th e l a pt o p/p ho n e
s p a ce that keeping  the costs  d o wn  is necess a ryto  compet e. Addi tiona l ly,
twe nty-fivecents per  u nitd o esnot soundlike muc h, untilo f cou r se  youmul tiplyth atby 10 + mill i onunits  built  ( wherea twe nt y-five c ents difference
per uni t amou nts t o $ 2.5+ mill ion dif ference i n th e end). So  if  ha vingthe switc h or no t h a vingthes witch mad e  n o d i f fe rence in sa l e s , t he ma ker couldeith er raise their pr o fit, or lowerthei r pri ce( or m or e likely split  th ed i fference )by dropping  the swi tc h es.
The la ck ofdemandi s  t h at not  eno ugh  purchase rsar e  tellin gma n ufactu rers 
t hey wa nt har d ware o n/off switches ( the p u r chase r s d o thi sby buyi n g on ly
laptops 
, like_something is_staring at them. The_threat to_privacy_is right_in
their_face and on_a gut level.

That's_the reason so many_people cover them_even_when they won't take other
basic online privacy precautions.

~~~
Sylos
Also just in general, people understand what_a_camera does._It's_much_harder
to understand the implications of_abstract "data" going off onto_the internet.

------
rdtsc
This_is like the coal burning power plant telling_you_to make sure_to sort
your recyclables into appropriate containers, to make the_environment cleaner.

Also people enjoy and feel_good about accomplishing_small_things._Putting a
sticker on your_laptop is a small easy task._Do it and they feel more_"secure"
in an instant.

------
benevol
Every electronic communication device (laptop,_mobile, tablet, etc) should
have _1 hardware_switch per sensor_ (camera, mic,_motion/acceleration, etc)
which_disables the sensor.

Why manufacturers still_haven't introduced this_is beyond_me.

~~~
pwg
>Why manufacturers still_haven't introduced this is beyond me.

Expense_and lack of_demand.

Some older laptops used to feature_hardware_kill switches for_the_wifi_(this
was prior_to the advent_of_a camera_in_every laptop). The old Dell D820_model
was_one such laptop. Eventually they were dropped_all around because from_the
makers_point of view, the_presence of the switch had_no effect on the sales of
the_laptops.

Anything you_add to_the BOM (Bill of Materials) for the device raises the
final net_cost, and there is still enough_competition in the laptop/phone
space_that keeping_the_costs down is_necessary_to compete._Additionally,
twenty-five cents per unit does not sound_like much,_until of course you
multiply that by_10+ million units built_(where_a twenty-five cents difference
per unit amounts_to $2.5+ million difference in the_end). So if having the
switch_or_not_having the switch made no_difference in sales, the maker could
either_raise their profit,_or lower their price (or more likely_split_the
difference) by dropping the switches.

The lack_of_demand is that not enough purchasers_are_telling_manufacturers
they want hardware on/off switches_(the purchasers do this by buying_only
laptops