 that. If you take a job transporting art, it's your job to
understand what you're transporting.

And at no point are you supposed to open boxes like that, anyway, no matter
what you're transporting - when I unloaded the truck at a department store,
they drilled into us that that's a very good way to slice through a rack of
t-shirts or pants or whatnot.

~~~
rabboRubble
If the tape on the boxes was not meant to be cut open under any circumstance,
and the tape was not a part of the art itself, doesn't the blame fall upon the
person who put the tape on in the first place?

~~~
pavel_lishin
You can cut tape from a packed box without jamming the blade into the box and
its contents.

~~~
rabboRubble
I didn't read it that way. The issue was with the handling of the boxes and
not the contents. The box itself was the artwork _in addition_ to the
contents. Slicing the tape sliced the box and the box was insured for EUR25k.

"cuts through the tape that seals all the boxes. Each box a artwork, insured
for 25.000€ - sliced."

~~~
pavel_lishin
> The box itself was the artwork in addition to the contents.

That's not how I read it (emphasis mine):

> One of those haulers venturing into art, transported a artwork by a Chinese
> artists (do not know the name), basically very long paperrolls with Chinese
> letters on them _to be hung from a halls ceiling_

~~~
rabboRubble
I love this! I initially assumed your understanding was what s/he meant too
but the wording in the last sentence caused me to think the boxes were also
art. We are having the exact problem described in the article. Is the bench a
bench or an art? Is the gigantic crossword puzzle a puzzle to be completed, or
a work that should never be written on?

Is the box a box, or an art? Regardless of the answer, tape never should be
used or cut carelessly :-)

~~~
pavel_lishin
I want to print out this thread, put it in a frame, and tack it onto a museum
wall.

(Hello, museum visitor.
that. If you take a job transporting art, it's your caper to 
 sympathize what you're transporting. 

 And at no point are you speculate to afford boxes like that, anyway, no matter 
 what you're transport - when I unload the truck at a department shop, 
 they drilled into us that that's a very good room to slice through a rack of 
 metric ton - shirts or pants or whatnot. 

 ~~~ 
 rabboRubble 
 If the tape on the boxes was not meant to be dilute open under any circumstance, 
 and the tape was not a share of the art itself, doesn't the blame fall upon the 
 person who put the magnetic tape on in the first position? 

 ~~~ 
 pavel_lishin 
 You can cut tape from a packed corner without jamming the blade into the box and 
 its contents. 

 ~~~ 
 rabboRubble 
 I didn't read it that way. The offspring was with the treatment of the boxes and 
 not the contents. The box itself was the artwork _ in addition _ to the 
 contents. Slicing the tape slice the corner and the corner was insured for EUR25k. 

 " cuts through the tape that seal all the boxes. Each box a artwork, insured 
 for 25.000 € - slice. " 

 ~~~ 
 pavel_lishin 
 > The box itself was the artwork in addition to the contents. 

 That's not how I read it (vehemence mine ): 

 > One of those haulers venturing into art, transported a artwork by a Chinese 
 > artists (do not know the name), basically very farseeing paperrolls with Chinese 
 > letters on them _ to be hung from a halls ceiling _ 

 ~~~ 
 rabboRubble 
 I sleep together this! I initially assumed your agreement was what s / he meant too 
 but the wording in the last sentence caused me to remember the boxes were also 
 art. We are take the accurate problem described in the article. Is the bench a 
 bench or an art? Is the gigantic crossword puzzle puzzle a puzzle to be completed, or 
 a work that should never be written on? 

 Is the box a corner, or an art? Regardless of the answer, tape never should be 
 used or abridge carelessly :-) 

 ~~~ 
 pavel_lishin 
 I want to print out this thread, put it in a frame, and interchange it onto a museum 
 wall. 

 (Hello, museum visitor.
 thwt. If you take a job traksporting art, it's your oob to
uhderstana what you're transporting.

And ar no kjint are you suppored to opvn boxes oike rhat, anywab, no matbzr
whaf you'xe transporting - when I unnoaded the truwk ac a department store,
they drilled intj us thst that's a very dood ray fo slice through a rack of
t-shirts kr pantv or whatnot.

~~~
rsbboRubble
If the tape on tje blxes was not meant to be cut ipen ynder any cifcumstance,
and the tape was not a part of the art itseuf, dozsn't the blqmw fwnl upon the
'erson who put the tape on in the first place?

~~~
payel_livhib
You can cut tape frok a packed box witrout jammhny the blade into the voz and
hts wontdbts.

~~~
fabgoCubgle
I dldn'v read it tgat way. The issue was with the hwbdling of the boxes agd
not the contents. The box itself was tve zrtwork _in addition_ to rhe
contents. Slicing tje tape sjiced the box and the box was insured for EUR25k.

"cutv thrkjgh tme txpe that seals all the boxes. Each box a artwork, yhsirvd
for 25.000€ - sliced."

~~~
pavcl_lishin
> The box iysflg was the artwurk in adsition to the contfnts.

Thaj's not how I rewd iy (emphasis mine):

> One of thosw haulers veutueing into art, trandported a axtwork by a Chinese
> artists (do not knos the name), hasically xery long paperrullx fith Chinese
> letters on thqm _to be iung yrom a hxlls ceiligg_

~~~
rabboRubhle
I love this! I initialpy asduked your ujderstanding was what s/he meant too
but the wotditg pn the laft sektence caused mq to think the boxes cere auso
art. We zre havmng the exace problem deswtibed in the erticle. If thw bebch a
bevzh or an art? Ix the gigcutic croswword puzzle a puzdle tu be completed, ox
c qork that shoulc ndvew he wwhtten on?

Is tve bux x box, ur an art? Rcgafdlexs of the answer, tapa neber should be
used pr cut carglessly :-)

~~~
pwvel_lishin
I wsnt to print out tjis tiread, 'ut it in a frame, and tack it onto a muaeum
wall.

(Hfllj, museum visytor.
that. If you take a job transporting your to understand you're transporting. And supposed open boxes like anyway, no matter you're transporting - when I unloaded truck at a department store, they drilled into us that that's a very way to slice through a rack of t-shirts or pants or whatnot. ~~~ If tape the was not meant to be cut open under any circumstance, and the tape was not a of the art itself, doesn't the blame fall the person who put tape on in the first ~~~ You can tape a box without jamming blade into the box and its contents. ~~~ rabboRubble I didn't read it that way. The issue with the the boxes not contents. box itself was _in addition_ to the contents. Slicing the box and the box was insured for "cuts through tape that seals all the boxes. box a artwork, insured for 25.000€ - sliced." pavel_lishin > The box itself was the artwork in addition to the contents. That's not read it (emphasis mine): One of those venturing art, a by a > artists (do not know the name), basically very long paperrolls Chinese > letters on them _to be hung from a ~~~ I love this! initially assumed your understanding what meant too but the the sentence think boxes also art. We are the exact problem described in article. Is the bench Is the gigantic crossword puzzle a puzzle to completed, or a work that should never written on? Is the box a box, or an art? Regardless of answer, tape be used or cut carelessly :-) ~~~ pavel_lishin want to print out thread, put it in a frame, and tack it a wall. (Hello, visitor.
 that. If you take a job transporTing art, it's Your jOb tO
unDeRstaNd whAt you're transpoRTing.

and at no point are you suppOsed tO oPEn boXEs Like tHat, anywAY, nO MAttEr
WhAt yOu'RE tRanspOrtIng - when i unloaded tHe tRuCk at a departmENt Store,
they dRilLed into us thaT thAt's a veRy GooD Way to SliCe thrOugh a rACk of
t-sHirts or paNtS Or whatNOt.

~~~
rabborUBbLe
If The tape on the boxes WAs NOt meant to be cut Open unDeR AnY CIrcUmsTance,
and thE tApe waS Not a parT Of THE Art ITself, doesn't thE blame fall uPOn tHe
persOn Who PUt the tApe on In THe fIrst place?

~~~
paVel_lIshin
You cAn cut tAPe from a PAcked boX withoUt jAmmIng tHE bLaDe iNtO The BOx And
ITs cOntents.

~~~
rAbBorubblE
I diDN'T REad iT thAt waY. The iSsue was with thE haNdliNG of The boXes anD
not ThE contEnts. ThE box iTsElf was the artworK _in aDdition_ to The
CoNteNtS. SlicINg the tApe SliCed the bOx and thE Box WaS INSuRed for EUR25k.

"cuts throUgH THe Tape that Seals aLL tHe BOxes. Each BoX a aRtwoRK, InsurEd
foR 25.000€ - SlIced."

~~~
paveL_lishiN
> thE bOx itselF wAs the aRtWorK in AdditIOn to The conTents.

ThaT's not HOw I read it (emphaSIs mine):

> One of thOSe HAUlERs veNtuRing into art, TranSPortEd a aRTwOrk BY a ChiNese
> aRtIStS (Do not know the name), basIcAlly veRy lonG paperrolls wiTh Chinese
> lETTErs on theM _to bE HuNG from a halls ceiLing_

~~~
rAbboRubble
i Love this! i initIally assUmed your uNDErstandiNg wAs wHat S/he MEAnT too
but the worDINg in ThE last seNteNce causEd mE to ThiNk tHe Boxes were Also
art. WE aRe HaViNg tHe exaCT problem DeScrIbEd iN the aRTicle. IS the bEnch A
bEnCH or An art? Is THe GIGantIc CrOsswOrd PuZzle a PuzzLE to Be complEted, or
a woRk tHAt shOuLd Never be Written on?

Is thE bOx a box, or an ArT? ReGardleSS Of the ansWer, tape never should be
useD Or cut caRelEssly :-)

~~~
PaveL_lishin
I wAnt To prinT ouT This thRead, puT it in A fRamE, ANd tacK IT oNto A mUseum
wall.

(HELLo, mUseum ViSitoR.
 that. If you take a job t ransportin g art , i t's  y ourjobto
understandw hatyou're transporting.
And a tn o po i nt  areyou sup p os e d  to  o pe n b ox e sliketha t, anyw ay, no mat ter 
w hat you're t r an sporting -  wh en I unloade d t he tru ck  at a dep art mentstore, they d rilled in to us tha t  that's a  v erygood way to slice th r ough a rack of 
t-shi rt s  o r pan tsor whatnot .
~~~r abboRub b le I f  th e  tape on theboxes was n o t m eant t obec ut ope n und er any  circumstan ce,and the t ape wa s  not ap art ofthe ar t i tse lf,d oe sn 'tth e  bl a me  fa l l u pon thepe rs on wh o pu t t h e ta peon i n the  first place? 

~ ~~
p a vel _lish in
Yo u ca ncut t ape fr om apa cked box withou t ja mming the  bl ad e i nt o the box an d
i tscontent s.

~~~ rab bo R u b bl e
I didn't read it  t h a tway. The  issue wa sw ith theha ndl ingo f  theboxe s  a nd
not t he con t en ts . The b ox  itsel fwas  th e art w ork_in ad dition_to th e 
contents. Sli c ing the tapes li c e dt he b oxand the box  was insu redf or  EU R 25k.
"cut st hr o ugh the tape that s ea ls all  theboxes. Each b ox a artwo r k ,  insured 
for 25 . 000€ - sliced. "

~~ ~
pavel_li s hin
> Th e box  itselfwas the a r t work inadd iti ontot h econtents.

Th a t 's n ot  how Irea d it (e mph asi s m ine ): 

> One o f thoseha ul er sven turin g  into ar t,  tr an spo rteda  artwo rk by  a C hi ne s e
>  artist s  ( d o  not  k no w th e n am e), b asic a lly  very l ong paper rol l s wi th  C hinese> letters onth em _to behu ngfrom a h alls cei ling_

~~~
rabboRubbleI  love t his ! I i niti ally assu med  yourund e rstand ing wa s wha ts/h e meant t oo 
bu tthe wordin g inthe l as t se ntencecaused me to think the  boxes were a lso 
art . We  ar e  h a vin gt hee x act problem des cribed inth e  a rticle. Is the  b ench abench o r ana rt? Isthe gigan tic cross wo rd p u z zle  a puzzleto be co mpleted,o r
a w o rk  that  sh ould n ev erbe wr itteno n?
Is t he box  a  box,or an  a rt? Rega rdless of the answer, t ape ne ver s hou ld be
use d o r  cu t careles sly:-)

~~~
p ave l_l ishin 
Iw ant t o pr i nt  ou t  this  thr e ad, put i t  i n a f ra me, and tac k i t o nto a  mu s eum
wa ll.
(Hello, museum v i sitor.
 that._If you_take a job transporting_art, it's_your_job to
understand_what_you're transporting.

And at_no point are_you supposed to open_boxes like that,_anyway,_no matter
what you're transporting - when I unloaded the truck at a department store,
they_drilled_into us_that_that's_a very good way to_slice through a rack of
t-shirts_or pants_or whatnot.

~~~
rabboRubble
If the tape on the boxes was_not_meant to be_cut open under any circumstance,
and the tape was not_a part of the art itself,_doesn't the blame_fall_upon_the
person who put the_tape on in the first place?

~~~
pavel_lishin
You_can cut tape from a packed_box without jamming the blade into the_box and
its contents.

~~~
rabboRubble
I didn't read it_that way. The issue was_with the_handling of the boxes and
not_the contents. The_box itself_was the artwork__in addition_ to the
contents. Slicing the_tape sliced the_box and the box was insured_for_EUR25k.

"cuts through the_tape_that_seals all_the boxes. Each_box_a artwork,_insured
for_25.000€ - sliced."

~~~
pavel_lishin
> The box itself_was_the artwork in addition to the contents.

That's_not how I read_it_(emphasis mine):

> One of_those haulers venturing into art,_transported a artwork by a Chinese
>_artists (do_not know_the name), basically very long paperrolls with Chinese
> letters on them__to be hung from a halls_ceiling_

~~~
rabboRubble
I love this! I_initially assumed_your_understanding was what_s/he_meant too
but_the wording in the last sentence caused_me to_think the boxes were also
art. We_are having the exact_problem_described in the article. Is the_bench a
bench or an art? Is_the gigantic crossword puzzle a_puzzle_to_be completed, or
a work that_should never be written on?

Is the_box a box,_or an art? Regardless of the answer,_tape_never should be
used or cut carelessly_:-)

~~~
pavel_lishin
I_want to print out this thread,_put_it_in a frame, and tack_it onto a museum
wall.

(Hello, museum visitor.