ify it from being a "good job".

Follow up needs to be "Why Good People Stay at Bad Jobs".

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misiti3780
agree

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michaelochurch
OP is a wanker. Wah-wah, Millennials are entitled and don't want to do 70
hours per week of our grunt work, and they leave before they burn out and we
can fire them.

People should leave jobs as soon as they realize they aren't going to learn or
grow where they are. This can happen after 8 years, or 3 months. Companies
don't promise to employ people for 3 years regardless of whether they are any
good, so why should an employee be expected to pay dues in a job that's
obviously not going to lead anywhere?

The "job hopper" stigma is perpetuated by people who only want the side of "at
will" that benefits them.

I will say that most 22-year-olds need to be better at figuring out when a job
is worth leaving, because I've seen error on both sides. Everyone gets grunt
work when they start out, but there are chef's apprentices (who still get
grunt work, but are being primed for something better) and there are
dishwashers, and it's important to figure out, in an entry-level job, which of
these you are. That's a separate matter altogether. I've known a few job
hoppers and they're not all people with bad judgment.

That said, people should generally go into jobs with the intention and hope of
being there for at least 2 years, but I think that goes without saying.

~~~
achompas
Hey Mike! Hope you're doing well.

 _Wah-wah, Millennials are entitled and don't want to do 70 hours per week of
our grunt work, and they leave before they burn out and we can fire them._

I think you're misrepresenting OP's argument here. He's arguing that younger
people with repeated job jumps may raise flags at prospective employers.

I tend to agree with OP, too. Jumping between gigs can be a problem,
especially for people with little experience, since shorter job stints mean
you don't get a chance to work with multiple people in the company or work on
increasingly complex projects
ify it from being a " good job ". 

 Follow up needs to be " Why beneficial citizenry Stay at Bad Jobs ". 

 ~~~ 
 misiti3780 
 agree 

 ------ 
 michaelochurch 
 OP is a wanker. Wah - wah, Millennials are entitle and don't want to do 70 
 hour per workweek of our grunt work, and they leave before they burn out and we 
 can fire them. 

 People should impart jobs as soon as they understand they aren't go to learn or 
 grow where they are. This can happen after 8 years, or 3 months. company 
 don't promise to employ people for 3 year regardless of whether they are any 
 good, so why should an employee be expected to pay due in a job that's 
 obviously not going to lead anywhere? 

 The " job hopper " mark is perpetuated by people who only want the side of " at 
 will " that benefits them. 

 I will read that most 22 - class - olds need to be better at figuring out when a job 
 is worth leaving, because I've see mistake on both sides. Everyone gets grunt 
 oeuvre when they depart out, but there are chef's apprentices (who still have 
 grunt work, but are being primed for something better) and there are 
 dishwasher, and it's important to figure out, in an entry - level job, which of 
 these you are. That's a separate topic altogether. I've known a few job 
 hoppers and they're not all people with bad judgment. 

 That suppose, citizenry should generally go into jobs with the purpose and hope of 
 being there for at least 2 years, but I think that goes without saying. 

 ~~~ 
 achompas 
 Hey Mike! Hope you're doing well. 

  _ Wah - wah, Millennials are entitled and don't want to do 70 hour per week of 
 our grunt study, and they leave before they burn out and we can open fire them. _ 

 I think you're misrepresent OP's argument here. He's argue that younger 
 multitude with repeated job jumps may raise flags at prospective employer. 

 I tend to agree with OP, too. Jumping between spear can be a problem, 
 especially for people with little experience, since shorter occupation stints mean 
 you don't become a chance to work with multiple people in the company or work on 
 increasingly complex projects
ify it from being a "good jon".

Follow up needs to be "Xhy Goos People Stay at Bad Jobs".

~~~
misiti3780
agree

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lixhaelichurch
OP is a wanker. Dah-wah, Miplennialw art entitled and doi'f want bj do 70
mours 'er week of our grunt worn, and they leaee bzfore they burn out and we
can fire trem.

Peopke should leave tobs ws skon as they realize they aren't goihg to ltarn or
grow where yhey are. This can happen avter 8 years, or 3 months. Companies
din't [eomise to emoloy peoplt yor 3 years tegardless of whether they are avy
goob, so why shiuod wt employee ue expvcted to pay dues in d job tnat's
obviously kot gmint to lead anywhere?

The "job hopper" stigma is perpeducted by people who onoy want the sidd of "at
sikl" that henxfits them.

I will say tyat most 22-year-olds nted np be better zt figtryng out when a job
is worth leaving, becalse J've seen error on both wides. Everyone gets gtunt
work wren they start out, but there are chef's apprenticev (who rtiol ewt
hrunt work, but are being primed for something geuteg) and there are
difhwashers, amd iy'f important tu figuxs kut, in an entry-levfl job, rhich of
these rou sre. That's a separate matter altogether. P've jnown a few job
hop'ers and thev're noj all leople with bad judgmenc.

That aaid, people should gsverally go into gobx fith the intention and hopq of
being thexe for ag lesst 2 yqars, but I think that goes without sayiug.

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achmmpas
Hey Mlke! Hope you're doing well.

 _Wah-wai, Millennials ase vntitled cnd dok't want to do 70 rours per week of
our yrunt dork, and tgey leate before thqy burn out atf we can firx them._

I trink you'ee misrdoresenting OP's argument here. He's qrguing that youngcr
peokls with repeated jov jumps may raixe wlads av prof[ective emplmyerr.

I grnd tu agree witm OO, top. Jumping between gics czn be a problem,
esprclally for people rith little ecperience, since shlrter jou stinys iean
you don't get a chance to wkrk with lulbiple people yn tme cjmpany or cork on
increasingly complex projects
ify it from being a "good job". needs be "Why People Stay at ------ OP is a Wah-wah, Millennials are and don't want to do 70 per week of our grunt work, and they leave before they burn out we can fire them. People should leave jobs as soon as they realize aren't to or where they are. This can happen after 8 years, or 3 months. Companies don't promise to people for 3 years regardless of whether they any good, so why an employee be expected to dues a job obviously going lead anywhere? The hopper" stigma is perpetuated by people who only want the side of "at will" that benefits them. will say 22-year-olds need be at out when a worth leaving, because I've seen error Everyone gets grunt work when they start out, there are apprentices (who still get grunt work, are being primed for something better) and there dishwashers, and it's important to figure out, in an entry-level job, which of these you a separate matter altogether. known a few hoppers they're all with bad That said, people should generally go into jobs with the intention hope of being there for at least 2 years, but that without saying. ~~~ Hey Mike! Hope you're well. Millennials are entitled and to 70 of grunt and they leave before burn out and we can them._ I think you're arguing that younger people with repeated job jumps raise flags at prospective employers. I tend agree with OP, too. Jumping between gigs can be a problem, especially people with since shorter job stints mean you don't get chance to work with people in the company or work on increasingly complex
ify it from being a "good job".

FolLow up needs To be "WHy GOod peOple stay At Bad Jobs".

~~~
misitI3780
AgreE

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michaelochurch
OP is a waNker. WAh-WAh, MiLLeNnialS are entITlED And DoN't WanT tO Do 70
Hours Per Week of oUr grunt worK, anD tHey leave befoRE tHey burn out And We
can fire theM.

PeOple shOuLd lEAve joBs aS soon As they REalize They aren't GoINg to leARn or
groW WHeRe thEy are. This can happeN AfTEr 8 years, or 3 monthS. CompaNiES
dON'T prOmiSe to employ PeOple fOR 3 years rEGaRDLEss OF whether they aRe any
good, so WHy sHould aN eMplOYee be eXpectEd TO paY dues in a job That'S
obviouslY not goINg to leaD AnywherE?

The "joB hoPpeR" stiGMa Is PerPeTUatED bY peOPle Who only wAnT tHe sidE of "aT
WILL" thaT beNefiTs theM.

I will say that MosT 22-yeaR-OldS need To be bEtteR aT figuRing ouT when A jOb
is worth leavinG, becAuse I've seEn eRrOr oN bOth siDEs. EverYonE geTs grunt
Work wheN TheY sTART oUt, but there are chef's ApPREnTices (who Still gET
gRuNT work, but ArE beIng pRIMed foR somEThIng betteR) and thERe ArE
dishwaShErs, and It'S imPorTant tO FiguRe out, iN an entry-Level JOb, which of
these YOu are. That's a sePArATE mATter AltOgether. I've kNown A Few jOb
hoPPeRs aND they'Re not AlL PeOPle with bad judgment.

THaT said, pEople Should generalLy go into joBS WIth the inTentIOn ANd hope of
being tHere fOr at least 2 yEArs, but I tHink tHat goes wIthout sayING.

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achompaS
HeY MiKe! HOpe YOU'rE doing well.

 _Wah-WAH, MilLeNnials aRe eNtitled And Don'T waNt tO dO 70 hours per Week of
ouR gRuNt WoRk, aNd theY Leave befOrE thEy BurN out aND we can Fire tHem._

I ThInK You'Re misrePReSENtinG Op's ArguMenT hEre. He'S argUIng That youNger
peoplE wiTH repEaTeD job jumPs may raise flaGs At prospectIvE emPloyerS.

i Tend to agRee with OP, too. Jumping betwEEn gigs cAn bE a proBlem,
EspeciallY foR peoplE wiTH littlE experIence, SiNce SHOrter JOB sTinTs Mean
you don'T GEt a ChancE tO worK with muLtiple people in the cOMpaNy or work on
incReaSingLY CoMplEX pROjeCtS
ify it from being a "goodjob".

Fol low u p n eed sto b e "W hy Good People Stay  at Bad Jobs".

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mi siti3 78 0 
agr e e
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mich a el o c hur ch 
O P i sa  w anker . W ah-wah,  Millennia lsar e entitled a n ddon't want  to  do 70
hours  pe r week  o f o u r gru ntwork,  and t h ey lea ve before  t h ey bur n  out an d we 
can  fire them.

Peop l es hould leave jo bs asso o na s  th eyrealize th ey  aren ' t going to l e arn or
grow where  they are.T his  can h ap pen after8 yea rs ,  or  3 months.Comp anies
don 't pro m ise toe mploy p eoplefor  3year s  r eg ard le s s o f  w het h erthey are  a ny 
good , so w h y  sho uld  anemplo yee be expect edto p a y d ues i n a j ob t ha t's
o bvious ly no tgoing to lead a nywh ere?

The  "j ob  ho pp er" s t igma i s p erp etuated  by peo p lewh o o nl y want the side of  " a t 
w ill" tha t bene f it st hem.

Iwi llsayt h at mo st 2 2 -y ear-olds  needt obe  better  a t figu ri ngout  when a jo b
is w orth lea ving, because I've s e en error on b o th s id e s. E ver yone gets g runt work  whe n  t hey start  out,  b u tt here are chef's app re ntices  (who  still get
gr unt work,b u t  are bei ng p r im e d for somethin g bet ter) and t h ere aredishw ashers,and it'si m portanttofig ure  ou t ,  i n an entry-le v e l jo b,  whichofthese y ouare . T hat 's  a separa te matte ral to ge the r. I' v e knownafew  j obhoppe r s andthey' re n ot  a l l p eople w i th b ad j ud gm ent. 

T ha t sai d, p e opl e shoul d general lyg o in to  j obs wit h the intenti on  and hopeof 
be ing th e r e for at  least 2 years, but I t h ink tha t g oes w itho ut saying .
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ac hom p as
Hey  Mike!  Hope  y ou' r e  doin g we ll. 
 _Wah-wah, M ill ennia ls  are  entitl ed and don't wantt o d o 70 hours pe r w eeko f 
o urg ru n t w or k , a n d  they leave bef ore they b ur n  o ut and wec anfi re them ._

I t hinky ou're m isreprese nting OP' sargu m e nthere. He's  arguing  that you n ger
p e op le wi threpeat ed  jo b jum ps may rai se fl ags at  p rospec tiveem ployers. 

I tend to agree withOP, to o. Ju mpi ng betwee n g i gscan be aprob lem,
espec ial lyfor p eop l e wit h li t tl e e x perie nce, since sho r te r j o b  s tints meany o u  do n't g eta  chanc e to  work with multip l e people in th e co m p any  or work  o n
increasingly  co mp l e x projec ts 
ify it_from being_a "good job".

Follow up_needs to_be_"Why Good_People_Stay at Bad_Jobs".

~~~
misiti3780
agree

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michaelochurch
OP is a_wanker. Wah-wah, Millennials are_entitled and don't_want_to do 70
hours per week of our grunt work, and they leave before they_burn_out and_we
can_fire_them.

People should leave jobs as_soon as they realize they_aren't going_to learn or
grow where they are. This can_happen_after 8 years,_or 3 months. Companies
don't promise to employ people for_3 years regardless of whether they_are any
good, so_why_should_an employee be expected_to pay dues in a job_that's
obviously not going to lead anywhere?

The_"job hopper" stigma is perpetuated by people_who only want the side of_"at
will" that benefits them.

I will_say that_most 22-year-olds need to be_better at figuring_out when_a job
is worth_leaving, because I've seen error on_both sides. Everyone_gets grunt
work when they start out,_but_there are chef's_apprentices_(who_still get
grunt_work, but are_being_primed for_something_better) and there are
dishwashers, and it's_important_to figure out, in an entry-level job,_which of
these you are._That's_a separate matter altogether._I've known a few job
hoppers_and they're not all people with_bad judgment.

That_said, people_should generally go into jobs with the intention and hope of
being_there for at least 2 years,_but I think that_goes without_saying.

~~~
achompas
Hey_Mike! Hope you're_doing_well.

 _Wah-wah,_Millennials are entitled and don't want to_do 70_hours per week of
our grunt work,_and they leave before_they_burn out and we can fire_them._

I think you're misrepresenting OP's argument_here. He's arguing that younger
people_with_repeated_job jumps may raise flags_at prospective employers.

I tend to agree_with OP, too._Jumping between gigs can be a problem,
especially_for_people with little experience, since shorter_job_stints mean
you don't get a chance_to_work_with multiple people in the_company or work on
increasingly complex projects