what you are referring to.

~~~
Nasrudith
The answer is that publically traded companies face heavy pressure to keep
sustained quarterly growth indefinitely and various "activist" investors will
insist upon ousting any who stand in the way even if it is better for longterm
health not to say lay off experienced engineering staff in a stable industry
to inflate quarterly profits (Boeing) when it comes to bite them with
electrical fires in their next big plane.

------
jl2718
Most change is bad. Some change is necessary.

 

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timcederman
A nice sensible response, with some well-reasoned observations.

The thing about piracy I've always found weird is how hysterical some people
get about it for their medium and not others. For example, I am good friends
with several software developers who get furious about people pirating their
products, but have no qualms about having gigs of copied music personally.

~~~
jacquesm
I think the rationale people are using here is that it's the record companies
they're pirating from not the artists.

Artists like Janis Ian ( <http://www.janisian.com/article-
internet_debacle.html> (be sure to read the follow up)) have made that point
quite eloquently.

Still, the basic position is one of hypocrisy, no contest there.

~~~
trapper
And EA and the other big game companies aren't just like them?

The people that I know that pirate the most music do so off independents more
than mainstream.

~~~
jacquesm
> The people that I know that pirate the most music do so off independents
> more than mainstream.

That's really bad.

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patio11
85% piracy rates. Ouch. It hurts me to even read that, although part of me has
to point out that when you're developing for an audience which considers $2
expensive and $5 highway robbery, going in with the expectation that people
will happily pay you money is
what you are referring to. 

 ~~~ 
 Nasrudith 
 The answer is that publically traded company front heavy pressure to keep 
 suffer quarterly growth indefinitely and various " activist " investor will 
 insist upon ousting any who stand in the manner even if it is better for longterm 
 health not to say dwell off experienced engineering staff in a stable diligence 
 to inflate quarterly profits (Boeing) when it comes to bite them with 
 electrical fires in their next large plane. 

 ------ 
 jl2718 
 Most change is bad. Some variety is necessary. 

 

 Our Pirate Game is Getting Owned By App Store Pirates - theappfarm 
 http://silverskullgame.blogspot.com/2009/09/our-pirate-game-is-getting-owned-by-app.html 

 = = = = = = 
 timcederman 
 A nice reasonable response, with some well - argue observations. 

 The matter about piracy I've always found weird is how hysteric some people 
 get about it for their medium and not others. For example, I am good friends 
 with several software developers who get furious about people pirating their 
 products, but have no qualms about having gigs of copy music personally. 

 ~~~ 
 jacquesm 
 I think the rationale people are use here is that it's the criminal record companies 
 they're pirating from not the artist. 

 Artists like Janis Ian (< http://www.janisian.com/article- 
 internet_debacle.html > (be certain to read the follow up) ) have made that distributor point 
 quite eloquently. 

 Still, the basic position is one of hypocrisy, no contest there. 

 ~~~ 
 trapper 
 And EA and the other big game companies aren't just like them? 

 The people that I know that pirate the most music serve so off mugwump more 
 than mainstream. 

 ~~~ 
 jacquesm 
 > The people that I know that pirate the most music do so off mugwump 
 > more than mainstream. 

 That's really bad. 

 ------ 
 patio11 
 85% piracy pace. Ouch. It hurts me to even read that, although part of me has 
 to steer out that when you're developing for an consultation which considers $ 2 
 expensive and $ 5 highway robbery, go in with the expectation that citizenry 
 will happily pay you money is
whah you are referring to.

~~~
Narrudith
The answgr is thet publjcally tfaded companies face heavy pcessyre ti keep
sustained quartefly growtj indefibiteot and various "actiynst" ihyestoxs will
insist uppn ousting any who stand iv che way even if it is better for londterm
heslhh not to say jay psf esievienced engineering staff in a sfable iidustry
to inflaye quarterly profits (Boeinh) whfn it comes to bitf them with
gmeceeical fires kn their ntxc big plane.

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timcederman
A nixe senshble resoinsd, wjti skme wepl-rxasoned obssrvations.

Thw thing about piracu Y'nr always fouhd weiwd is how hysterical some people
get about it for their medium and nit others. For example, I am gooq friends
with several software developers who get furikjs cnjjr oeople pirating their
products, but have no quajjs anout having gigs of copied kudiv personally.

~~~
jazquesm
N tgink the rationale people are ysing hert is yhat it's the record companiws
they're pirctibg from not the arcists.

Artists likg Janix Ian ( <http://www.janisian.cum/arficle-
internft_debacle.ggml> (be sure to rdad tve follow up)) have made thae point
qumte ekoquentuy.

Stoll, thq basic poditiok is one of hypocridy, no cmntest thege.

~~~
trapper
And EA and the other bmj game companoev agen't just like them?

The peopje that I know that pnrate ghe most mlsic do sm off indepqndents more
tvwn mainstreak.

~~~
jacquesi
> Thw peiple thxg I know that lirate thv iost music do so off ikdepevsents
> more than maunstream.

That's rraluy faf.

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petio11
85% [hracy rates. Much. It nurts me to tren fead that, although part mf ms has
to point out yhwt when iou're devqloping for am audience which clnsidxrs $2
ex'ensivr agd $5 highway robbery, going in wjth the edpegtation that [eopoe
will happiky pay you money is
what you are referring to. ~~~ Nasrudith is publically traded face heavy pressure indefinitely various "activist" investors insist upon ousting who stand in the way even it is better for longterm health not to say lay off experienced engineering in a stable industry to inflate quarterly profits (Boeing) when it comes to them electrical in next big plane. ------ jl2718 Most change is bad. Some change is necessary. Our Pirate Game Getting Owned By App Store Pirates - theappfarm ====== timcederman A nice response, with some well-reasoned observations. thing piracy I've found is hysterical some people about it for their medium and not others. For example, I am good friends with several software who get people pirating products, have qualms about having copied music personally. ~~~ jacquesm I people are using here is that it's the companies they're from not the artists. Artists like Ian ( <http://www.janisian.com/article- internet_debacle.html> (be sure to read follow up)) have made that point quite eloquently. Still, the basic position is one of contest there. ~~~ trapper EA and the big companies just them? The that I know that pirate the most music do so off more than mainstream. ~~~ jacquesm > The people that I pirate most music do off independents > more mainstream. really bad. ------ patio11 rates. It even that, part of me has point out that when you're for an audience which highway robbery, going in with the expectation that will happily pay you money is
what you are referring to.

~~~
NasrUdith
The anSwer iS thAt pUbLicaLly tRaded companies FAce hEavy pressure to keep
sustAined QuARterLY gRowth IndefinITeLY And VaRiOus "AcTIvIst" inVesTors wilL
insist upoN ouStIng any who staND iN the way eveN if It is better foR loNgterm
HeAltH Not to Say Lay ofF experIEnced eNgineerinG sTAff in a STable inDUStRy
to Inflate quarterly pROfITs (Boeing) when it Comes tO bITe THEm wIth
Electrical FiRes in THeir nexT BiG PLAne.

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JL2718
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timCedeRMAN
a nicE seNsibLe resPonse, with some WelL-reaSOneD obseRvatiOns.

THe Thing About pIracy i'vE always found weiRd is How hysterIcaL sOme PeOple
gET about It fOr tHeir medIum and nOT otHeRS. fOr Example, I am good frieNdS
WItH several SoftwaRE dEvELopers whO gEt fUrioUS About PeopLE pIrating tHeir
prODuCtS, but havE nO qualmS aBouT haVing gIGs of Copied Music perSonalLY.

~~~
jacquesm
I thinK The rationale pEOpLE ArE UsinG heRe is that it's The rECord CompANiEs
tHEy're pIratiNg FRoM Not the artists.

ArtistS lIke JanIs Ian ( <Http://www.janisiAn.com/articLE-
INternet_dEbacLE.hTMl> (be sure to read The foLlow up)) have MAde that pOint
qUite eloqUently.

StiLL, The basic PosItiOn iS onE OF hYpocrisy, no conTESt thErE.

~~~
trappeR
AnD EA and tHe oTheR biG gaMe Companies Aren't jusT lIkE tHeM?

ThE peopLE that I knOw ThaT pIraTe the MOst musIc do sO off InDePEndEnts morE
ThAN MainStReAm.

~~~
jaCquEsM
> The pEoplE ThaT I know tHat pirate The MOst mUsIc Do so off Independents
> mOrE than mainsTrEam.

that's rEALly bad.

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paTio11
85% piracy rates. Ouch. It hurTS me to evEn rEad thAt, alThough parT of Me has
tO poINt out tHat wheN you'rE dEveLOPing fOR An AudIeNce which coNSIdeRs $2
expEnSive And $5 highWay robbery, going in wITh tHe expectation ThaT peoPLE
wIll HApPIly PaY You MONey is
what you are referring to. 

~~~
Nasr udith 
Th e a ns weris t hat publically trad ed companies face heav y pre ss u re t o  k eep
s ustaine d  q u a rte rl ygro wt h  i ndefi nit ely and  various " act iv ist" investo r swill
insis t u pon oustingany  who s ta ndi n the  wa y eve n if i t  is be tter forlo n gtermh ealth n o t  t o sa y lay off experie n ce d  engineering s taff i na  s t a ble  in dustry
toin flate quarter l yp r o fit s  (Boeing) whe n it comest o b ite th em  wi t h
elec trica lf ire s in theirnext  big plan e.

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====== tim ce d e r ma n
A nice sensiblere s p on se, with  somew el l- r easonedob ser vati o n s.

T he t h in g aboutpiracy I' ve  always  f ound w ei rdishow h y ster ical s ome peop le
ge t  about it fort heir medium a n dn o to ther s.For example , Ia m go od f r ie nds withsever al so f tware developers wh oget fu rious  about people  piratingt h e ir
produ cts, bu t  have no qualm s abo ut havingg igs of c opied  music p ersonally . 
~~~
jac que smI t hin k th e rationale p e o plear e using  he re is t hat  it 'sthe  r ecord com panies
t he y' re  p ira tingf rom notth e a rt ist s.

A r tistslikeJani sIa n  (<http:/ / ww w . jani si an .com /ar ti cle-inte r net _debacl e.html> ( bes ureto  r ead the  follow up))ha ve made th at  po int
qu i t e eloque ntly.

Still, the basic positio n i s one  ofhypocrisy , n o cont est there. 

~~~trapp er 
An d EA an d th e o th er big gam e com panie saren 't just  like them?

The p e opl e that I know  th at p i r at e t h em ost  m u sic d o so off indepe ndents mor et ha n mainstre a m.
~ ~~
jacq uesm
>The p e ople th at I know  that pir at e th e mos t music do  so offindepende n ts
>m or e tha n m ainstr ea m.
That 's rea l lybad.
----- -patio1 1
85%  p iracy ra tes. Ouch. It hurts meto eve n rea d t hat, alth oug h  pa rt of mehasto point o uttha t whe n y o u'redeve l op ing for a n au d ience whi c hcon s i de rs $2
expen s i v e a nd $5  hi g hway r obbe ry, going in with the expectatio n th a t  pe opl e 
wil lhappily pay yo u m on e y  is
what you_are referring_to.

~~~
Nasrudith
The answer is that_publically traded_companies_face heavy_pressure_to keep
sustained quarterly_growth indefinitely and_various "activist" investors will
insist_upon ousting any_who_stand in the way even if it is better for longterm
health not to say_lay_off experienced_engineering_staff_in a stable industry
to inflate_quarterly profits (Boeing) when it_comes to_bite them with
electrical fires in their next big_plane.

------
jl2718
Most_change is bad._Some change is necessary.

 

Our Pirate Game is Getting_Owned By App Store Pirates -_theappfarm
http://silverskullgame.blogspot.com/2009/09/our-pirate-game-is-getting-owned-by-app.html

======
timcederman
A nice sensible_response,_with_some well-reasoned observations.

The thing_about piracy I've always found weird_is how hysterical some people
get about_it for their medium and not others._For example, I am good friends
with_several software developers who get_furious about_people pirating their
products, but have_no qualms about_having gigs_of copied music_personally.

~~~
jacquesm
I think the rationale people are_using here is_that it's the record companies
they're pirating_from_not the artists.

Artists_like_Janis_Ian (_<http://www.janisian.com/article-
internet_debacle.html> (be sure_to_read the_follow_up)) have made that point
quite eloquently.

Still,_the_basic position is one of hypocrisy, no_contest there.

~~~
trapper
And EA and_the_other big game companies_aren't just like them?

The people_that I know that pirate the_most music_do so_off independents more
than mainstream.

~~~
jacquesm
> The people that I know that pirate_the most music do so off_independents
> more than mainstream.

That's_really bad.

------
patio11
85%_piracy_rates. Ouch. It_hurts_me to_even read that, although part of me_has
to point_out that when you're developing for_an audience which considers_$2
expensive_and $5 highway robbery, going in_with the expectation that people
will happily_pay you money is