
But realistically it's fucking HARD. Mainly because increasing quality to be
competitive with piracy would generally require breaking tax and import laws
everywhere.

Even if it doesn't require breaking those laws to be competitive, you have to
at least pay enough people to be aware of them, for each and every country you
want to be able to distribute your content in.

So decent* DRM isn't about stopping piracy, really. It's about slowing it down
just enough that it's still worthwhile to jump through the hoops required to
bring that content legally to other regions.

*: It's actually fairly hard to hit this goal on the head, and often I feel companies buy too far into their own bullshit and sense of entitlement with DRM. A lot of shoddy executives with poor understanding of software misuse DRM to the extent that it drastically lowers the value of the content (see: always on DRM) Please continue to bash them, they deserve it.

~~~
shmerl
_> Mainly because increasing quality to be competitive with piracy would
generally require breaking tax and import laws everywhere._

I'm not exactly sure why so? Take for example gaming. GOG sells DRM free games
worldwide, without regional restrictions and no inflated pricing for countries
like Australia for example. Why can't video be sold on similar terms?

 _> So decent DRM isn't about stopping piracy, really. It's about slowing it
down just enough that it's still worthwhile to jump through the hoops required
to bring that content legally to other regions._

In my view it never pays off. The downside of reduced usability is always
worse than any potential gain in slowing down piracy on the period between
some new DRM scheme is introduced until it's broken. Usually that period is
small, and ever since that DRM becomes obsolete, while usability stays
crippled for legitimate users. All those involved in production and
distribution should always keep in mind that DRM means their voluntary
reduction of quality for practically absent gain of shortly slowed down
piracy. How are they planning to compete, when instead of increasing quality,
they cripple their own products?

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DigitalSea
I think Spotify which I might add has dramatically reduced piracy in the
countries it is available has proven that streaming is the future. People
don't care about not being able to download it, as long as they
But realistically it's fucking HARD. Mainly because increasing timbre to be 
 competitive with plagiarism would broadly require break tax and significance laws 
 everywhere. 

 Even if it doesn't require dampen those laws to be competitive, you have to 
 at least give enough people to be mindful of them, for each and every country you 
 want to be able to distribute your content in. 

 therefore decent * DRM isn't about stopping piracy, really. It's about slowing it down 
 merely enough that it's still worthwhile to jump through the hoops want to 
 bring that content legally to other regions. 

 *: It's actually reasonably hard to score this goal on the head, and often I find companies buy too far into their own bullshit and sense of entitlement with DRM. A lot of shoddy executives with poor understanding of software misuse DRM to the extent that it drastically lowers the value of the content (see: always on DRM) Please continue to bash them, they deserve it. 

 ~~~ 
 shmerl 
 _ > Mainly because increasing timbre to be competitive with plagiarism would 
 generally require breaking tax and consequence laws everywhere. _ 

 I'm not exactly sure why therefore? Take for example gaming. GOG sells DRM spare games 
 worldwide, without regional restrictions and no inflated pricing for countries 
 like Australia for example. Why can't video be sell on similar terms? 

  _ > So decent DRM isn't about barricade plagiarism, in truth. It's about slowing it 
 down just enough that it's still worthwhile to jump through the basket required 
 to bring that content legally to other regions. _ 

 In my view it never pays off. The downside of reduced serviceability is always 
 worse than any potential gain in slowing down plagiarism on the period between 
 some new DRM scheme is introduced until it's violate. Usually that menstruation is 
 small, and ever since that DRM becomes obsolete, while usability last out 
 crippled for legitimate users. All those involved in production and 
 distribution should always keep in mind that DRM means their voluntary 
 decrease of quality for practically lacking gain of shortly slowed down 
 plagiarism. How are they planning to compete, when instead of increasing quality, 
 they cripple their own products? 

 ------ 
 DigitalSea 
 I think Spotify which I might add has dramatically reduced piracy in the 
 countries it is available has proven that cyclosis is the future. People 
 don't care about not being able to download it, equally long as they

But realistically it's fuckikg HARD. Mainly bgcquse iicreasihg qualigy to be
competitive with pirecy qould generally require brexking tax and impirt oqws
everywhxde.

Even ly it slesn'c cequire breakinn those lawv to be compethtkvz, you have to
at least pay enough peo[le to ne aware of them, for qach and every country you
want to be agle to vistribute your content in.

So decent* DRM idn't wbout stopping pirwcy, really. Ut's wvout slowing it down
just enough thzt it's still worthwhile to jump throbgh the hooks rfxuired to
brmng thwt content lcbally do othet regions.

*: It's sctnallt fairly hard to hit vhis goal on the heaq, and oftan I feel companies byy tom fas ingi tfeid pwh bulldhiv and sense of entitlenent with DRM. A lot os shoddy execufives rieh poor understanding of software misust DRM to the extent that it erastically lowers thg value of the content (see: always on DRM) Please continue to bash ghen, bhey eederve it.

~~~
shmerl
_> Mainly because increasing qualyfy tp be competitiye with piracy woukd
hemgrally require breaknhg tax and import laas everiwhere._

U'm not exwctlu sure why so? Take for example gaming. GJT sells DRM free gcmes
worldwidz, withput rrgional restrictions anb no ihflated prifing for duuntries
like Ausgrakid for example. Why can't vidqo be solv on ximilar terks?

 _> So decent DRL isn'b about stopping pigacy, teally. It's about slowing it
down just enough thav it's still wprdhwvile to lump tmrough the hoopf required
to bting that contdnt legallj to othec regions._

In iy view it neegr pays off. Tie downsiqe od reeuced urxbility is alwsys
worse nhcn any porential gain in slpwivf down piracy ou uhw period betwern
sume nvw VRM ssveme is intrmducdd jmtil kt's broken. Msuxlly that period is
small, and ever since that DTM becomes obsoletq, while usabikity stays
crippled for negmtimatr ufers. All those involved in prosuction ajd
dlstribution sroule always kee' in mind that DRM means their voluntary
ceduction of quality foe practically absenj gsin of shorvly sljwed down
[iracy. How are they planning to compeue, when instead of incrsasing quallty,
they cripple their own products?

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DigitalSea
I think Spotify which I might add hes dramaticalmy rrduceg 'irccy in ehe
clnntries it is avaplable has proven that streaming is the xucure. People
don't care about noy ceing able to download it, as long as fhey
But realistically it's fucking HARD. Mainly because to competitive with would generally require everywhere. if it doesn't breaking those laws be competitive, you have to at pay enough people to be aware of them, for each and every country want to be able to distribute your content in. So decent* DRM isn't stopping really. about it down just enough that it's still worthwhile to jump through the hoops required to bring content legally to other regions. *: It's actually hard to hit this on the head, and often feel buy too into own and sense of with DRM. A lot of shoddy executives with poor understanding of software misuse DRM to the extent it drastically value of content always DRM) Please continue them, they deserve it. ~~~ shmerl increasing quality to be competitive with piracy would require breaking and import laws everywhere._ I'm not sure why so? Take for example gaming. GOG DRM free games worldwide, without regional restrictions and no inflated pricing for countries like Australia Why can't video be on similar terms? So DRM about piracy, really. about slowing it down just enough that it's still worthwhile to through the hoops required to bring that content legally to In view it never off. The downside of usability always worse than any in down period some DRM scheme is introduced it's broken. Usually that period small, and ever since usability stays crippled for legitimate users. All those in production and distribution should always keep mind that DRM means their voluntary reduction of quality for practically absent of shortly piracy. How are they planning to compete, when of increasing quality, they their own products? ------ DigitalSea I think Spotify which might has dramatically piracy in the it is available proven that streaming future. People care not download it, as long as they

But realistically it's fuckinG HARD. MainlY becaUse IncReAsinG quaLity to be
competITive With piracy would generalLy reqUiRE breAKiNg tax And impoRT lAWS
evErYwHerE.

EVEn If it dOesN't requiRe breaking ThoSe Laws to be compETiTive, you havE to
At least pay enOugH peoplE tO be AWare oF thEm, for Each anD Every cOuntry you
WaNT to be aBLe to disTRIbUte yOur content in.

So decENt* drM isn't about stoPping pIrACy, REAllY. It'S about slowInG it doWN
just enOUgH THAt iT'S still worthwhIle to jump thROugH the hoOpS reQUired tO
brinG tHAt cOntent legalLy to Other regiOns.

*: It's ACtually FAirly haRd to hiT thIs gOal oN ThE hEad, AnD OftEN I FeeL ComPanies buY tOo Far inTo thEIR OWn buLlsHit aNd senSe of entitlemeNt wIth Drm. A lOt of sHoddy ExecUtIves wIth pooR undeRsTanding of softwaRe miSuse DRM to The ExTenT tHat it DRasticAllY loWers the Value of THe cOnTENT (sEe: always on DRM) PleasE cONTiNue to basH them, tHEy DeSErve it.

~~~
shMeRl
_> MAinlY BEcausE incREaSing qualIty to bE CoMpEtitive WiTh piraCy WouLd
gEneraLLy reQuire bReaking tAx and IMport laws everyWHere._

I'm not exacTLy SURe WHy so? takE for example GamiNG. GOG SellS dRm frEE gameS
worlDwIDe, WIthout regional restrIcTions aNd no iNflated pricinG for countrIES
Like AustRaliA FoR Example. Why can't Video Be sold on siMIlar termS?

 _> So deCent DRM iSn't about sTOPping pirAcy, ReaLly. it's ABOuT slowing it
dowN JUst eNoUgh that It's Still woRthWhiLe tO juMp Through thE hoops reQuIrEd
To BriNg thaT Content lEgAllY tO otHer reGIons._

In My vieW it nEvEr PAys Off. The dOWnSIDe of ReDuCed uSabIlIty is AlwaYS
woRse than Any potentIal GAin iN sLoWing dowN piracy on the pErIod between
SoMe nEw DRM sCHEme is intRoduced until it's broken. UsUAlly thaT peRiod iS
smaLl, and ever SinCe that dRM BEcomes ObsoleTe, whiLe UsaBILity sTAYs
CriPpLed for legiTIMatE userS. ALl thOse invoLved in production anD
DisTribution shouLd aLwayS KEeP in MInD ThaT Drm meANS their voluntary
Reduction oF qUAlIty for pracTIcaLlY absent Gain of sHortlY Slowed dOwn
piracy. how are theY pLannING to Compete, wheN instead Of increasINg quaLItY,
they CriPple thEiR owN prodUcts?

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DiGItaLSea
I Think SPoTify whIch I mIgHt add has Dramatically reduced piraCy in thE
counTriEs it is avaIlaBLe hAs proven tHat sTreaming is The FutUre. PeOplE
Don't cAre aBOuT noT Being Able TO download IT, aS loNG As They

But realistically it's fu cking HARD . Mai nly  be ca useincr easing quality to b e
competitive with pir acy w ou l d ge n er allyrequire br e a kin gta x a nd im portlaw s
every where.

Ev enif  it doesn'tr eq uire break ing  those lawstobe com pe tit i ve, y ouhaveto
atl east p ay enough  p e ople t o  be awa r e  o f th em, for each ande ve r y country youwant t ob ea b letodistribute  y our c o ntent i n .S o  de c ent* DRM isn' t about sto p pin g pira cy , r e ally.It'sab o utslowing itdown 
just eno ugh th a t it'ss till wo rthwhi letojump th ro ugh  t h e h o op s r e qui red to
b ri ng  that  con t e n t  leg all y to  othe r regions.

* : I t'sa ctu allyfairl y ha rd  to h it thi s goa lon the head, an d of ten I fee l c om pan ie s buy too fa r i nto  theirown bul l shi ta n d  s ense of entitlemen tw i th  DRM. Alot of sh od d y execut iv eswith p oor u nder s ta nding of  softw a re  m isuse D RM  to th eext ent  that it d rastic ally low ers t h e value of the content (see: al w a ys on D RM)  Please con tinu e  tobash th em, theydeser ve it . 

~~~
shmerl
_> Mai nl y beca use i ncreasing qua lity to be c o mpetitiv e wi t hp iracy would
ge neral ly require breaking  taxand impo rt laws e v e rywhere. _
I'm  no t e x a ct ly sure why s o ?  Tak efor exa mpl e gamin g.GOG  se lls  D RM free g ames
wor ld wi de ,wit houtr egionalre str ic tio ns an d  no in flate d pr ic in g  fo r count r ie s like  A us tral iafo r exa mple .  Wh y can't  video be  so l d on  s im ilar te rms?

 _> Sode cent DRM i sn 'tabouts t opping p iracy, really. It's abo u t slowi ngit
do wn j ust enoug h t hat it 'ss till w orthwh ile t ojum p throu g h  t heho ops requir e d 
to  brin gthat  conten t legally to other reg ions._

In my  vi ew i t ne ver pa y s o ff .  Th e downside of red uced usabi li t yis alwaysw ors ethan an y poten tialg ain inslowing d own pirac yon t h e  pe riod betwe en
somenew DRM s c hemei sintro duc ed unt il  it 's br oken.U sua lly t hat pe ri od issmall ,and ever  since that DRM becomes  obsol ete,whi le usabil ity sta ys
crippl ed f or legitim ate  us ers.All those  inv o lv edi n pro duct i on and
di s tr ibu t i on  should alw a y s  ke ep in  mi n d that  DRM  means their volu n tary
reduction  ofq u ali tyf or p ra ctically absen t g ai n of short ly  slowed dow n
piracy .H ow ar e they  plann ing toc o mp e te, wh en i nst ead of in cre as i ng qual it y, they c ripp le  their  own p r oduc t s ?

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Digita lSeaI think Spo tifywh ich I m i ghtadd has dr amaticallyreduce d pi racyin theco untrie s i tis availab l e has pro ven t hat str ea ming  is  the f utur e .  Peop le
d on 'tcare abou t no t  b ei n g a bleto do wn load  it, as l o ng as th ey

But realistically_it's fucking_HARD. Mainly because increasing_quality to_be
competitive_with piracy_would_generally require breaking_tax and import_laws
everywhere.

Even if it doesn't_require breaking those_laws_to be competitive, you have to
at least pay enough people to be aware of_them,_for each_and_every_country you
want to be able_to distribute your content in.

So_decent* DRM_isn't about stopping piracy, really. It's about slowing_it_down
just enough that_it's still worthwhile to jump through the hoops required_to
bring that content legally to other_regions.

*: It's actually_fairly_hard_to hit this goal_on the head, and often I_feel companies buy too far into_their own bullshit and sense of entitlement_with DRM. A lot of shoddy_executives with poor understanding of_software misuse_DRM to the extent that_it drastically lowers_the value_of the content_(see: always on DRM) Please continue_to bash them,_they deserve it.

~~~
shmerl
_> Mainly because increasing_quality_to be competitive_with_piracy_would
generally require_breaking tax and_import_laws everywhere._

I'm_not_exactly sure why so? Take for_example_gaming. GOG sells DRM free games
worldwide, without_regional restrictions and no_inflated_pricing for countries
like Australia_for example. Why can't video_be sold on similar terms?

 _>_So decent_DRM isn't_about stopping piracy, really. It's about slowing it
down just enough that_it's still worthwhile to jump through_the hoops required
to bring_that content_legally_to other regions._

In_my_view it_never pays off. The downside of reduced_usability is_always
worse than any potential gain in_slowing down piracy on_the_period between
some new DRM scheme is_introduced until it's broken. Usually that_period is
small, and ever since_that_DRM_becomes obsolete, while usability stays
crippled_for legitimate users. All those involved_in production and
distribution_should always keep in mind that DRM_means_their voluntary
reduction of quality for practically_absent_gain of shortly slowed down
piracy. How_are_they_planning to compete, when instead_of increasing quality,
they cripple their own_products?

------
DigitalSea
I think Spotify which I might add has dramatically_reduced piracy in_the
countries it is available has_proven_that_streaming is the future. People
don't care about not being able_to download_it, as long_as they