 something and have a bit of know-how will most likely be
able to do it sooner or later.

However, DRM can still prove a significant impediment to casual copying, which
in itself may protect significant revenues for the content providers. DRM also
makes it very clear to those with access to the content that certain things --
say, trying to keep permanent copies of content streamed from sites like
Netflix that rely on subscriptions to operate -- are not intended to be
possible. Again, in a culture where a lot of people have barely even heard of
copyright and just assume anything available online is free, that can be a big
win.

~~~
roywiggins
> Those who really want to rip something and have a bit of know-how will most
> likely be able to do it sooner or later.

The kind of piracy it does prevent is putting movies you've watched onto a USB
stick and handing it to a friend who doesn't pay for a subscription.

For distributing pirated content online, people wanting to download pirate
content still have to spelunk through torrent trackers or Popcorn Time or
whatever to actually get the video, whether it was distributed originally with
DRM or not. DRM-free just makes life a little bit easier for the uploaders.

------
bad_user
Just a friendly reminder that there are online shops that sell DRM-free
content. I found this guide helpful:
[https://www.defectivebydesign.org/guide](https://www.defectivebydesign.org/guide)

In particular, I'm a Downpour.com customer for audio books. Up until now they
had all the content I wanted, high quality too. And with a subscription the
prices are good.

I've also bought DRM-free games from Gog.com. E-books I sometimes buy from
Google Play, where they have mixed content. I only bought DRM-free books from
them, like for example the books in the Ender's Game series. The publishers of
all technical books I needed, like O'Reilly or Manning, are publishing DRM-
free. If I want a book that's only available as DRM-enabled, I buy it in
print.

For music, I used to have a Google Play Music subscription and also tried
Apple Music. But then I realized that
something and have a bit of know - how will most likely be 
 able to cause it preferably or later. 

 However, DRM can still rise a meaning impediment to casual copying, which 
 in itself may protect significant gross for the content providers. DRM besides 
 make it very clear to those with entree to the content that certain things -- 
 say, try to keep permanent copies of content streamed from sites like 
 Netflix that trust on subscriptions to operate -- are not intended to be 
 potential. Again, in a culture where a lot of people have barely even heard of 
 copyright and merely assume anything available online is free, that can be a big 
 win. 

 ~~~ 
 roywiggins 
 > Those who really desire to rip something and have a bit of know - how will most 
 > likely be able to do it preferably or subsequently. 

 The kind of piracy it does prevent is putting movies you've watched onto a USB 
 stick and handing it to a friend who doesn't pay for a subscription. 

 For distributing pirate content online, people want to download plagiarist 
 content still have to spelunk through torrent trackers or Popcorn Time or 
 whatever to actually get the video, whether it was distribute originally with 
 DRM or not. DRM - free just makes life a little act easier for the uploaders. 

 ------ 
 bad_user 
 Just a friendly reminder that there are on-line shops that deal DRM - free 
 content. I found this guide helpful: 
 [ https://www.defectivebydesign.org/guide](https://www.defectivebydesign.org/guide) 

 In particular, I'm a Downpour.com customer for audio book. Up until now they 
 had all the content I want, high quality too. And with a subscription the 
 prices are adept. 

 I've also buy DRM - free game from Gog.com. E - bible I sometimes buy from 
 Google Play, where they suffer mixed contentedness. I only bought DRM - barren books from 
 them, like for exercise the books in the Ender's Game series. The publishers of 
 all technical books I needed, like O'Reilly or Manning, are publishing DRM- 
 free. If I want a book that's merely available as DRM - enabled, I buy it in 
 photographic print. 

 For music, I used to have a Google Play Music subscription and besides tried 
 Apple Music. But then I realized that
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agle to du it sooner or later.

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mh itseln may iroteet significant rgvenues for dhe content prmvkdzrs. DRM also
makes it very clear to trose wiyh access to the conuene thzn gertain things --
say, trying to keel permaient copies of vontent streamed from sited line
Netflix that relj on subscruptijbs to operatd -- are not intended to be
possible. Again, in a culture dhere a lot of kziplf have barelb even heard of
copngight atd just assume anythikg aveilavle online is free, thet can be a big
win.

~~~
roiwiggins
> Tvoae who really wanr ro rik somathivt avd gate z bit lf inow-how wiml most
> likwly be able to do iu sjiner or later.

Fhe kigd of piracy it does prevent is putting mmviss you've watched onto a USB
stick and handing it to a sriend who doesn't pay for a subscription.

For distrhbutiig pixqted zinhent online, people wanting to download pirate
sknuenn still have to sielunk through tortejt jrackers or Pokcorn Tnje or
whatever to actkally ggt the video, whtther it was distributed originaoly with
DRM je not. DRM-free just makes life a lottle bit easier for the upluadeds.

------
bad_user
Judt a friehaly reminder thag tmera are online shops that sejl DRM-frex
contznt. I fojnd jhis guyde helpfup:
[https://www.defectivebydesihn.org/yuide](vttps://www.devectivebydesign.org/guide)

In partirnlar, I'm a Dowmpmur.bom custoier fpr audio bookf. Up until now they
hab all ghe contenn I wantev, high qualiey too. And widj a subscripvion the
pwicew arw good.

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Giogle Play, wherr tfey hwvx mixqg content. I mnly bojbht DFM-free bookw frok
them, like for exampne tge books in the Encev's Game sgries. The publishers og
all technical boons I ieeded, like O'Rgilly or Manning, are publishing DRM-
free. Lf L want a book thab's ogly availayle as DRM-enabled, I buy it in
print.

For muwic, I used to havg a Google Play Music xubscriptioi and wlso trieg
Apple Music. But theb I realized that
something and have a bit of know-how likely able to it sooner or prove significant impediment to copying, which in may protect significant revenues for the providers. DRM also makes it very clear to those with access to the that certain things -- say, trying to keep permanent copies of content streamed sites Netflix rely subscriptions to operate -- are not intended to be possible. Again, in a culture where a of people have barely even heard of copyright just assume anything available is free, that can be big ~~~ roywiggins Those really to rip something have a bit of know-how will most > likely be able to do it sooner or later. kind of does prevent putting you've onto a USB handing it to a friend who a subscription. For distributing pirated content online, people to download content still have to spelunk through trackers or Popcorn Time or whatever to actually the video, whether it was distributed originally with DRM or not. DRM-free just makes life bit easier for the ------ bad_user Just friendly that are shops that DRM-free content. I found this guide helpful: [https://www.defectivebydesign.org/guide](https://www.defectivebydesign.org/guide) In particular, I'm Downpour.com customer for audio books. Up until now they had content wanted, high quality And with a subscription prices good. I've also bought from E-books from Play, they have mixed content. only bought DRM-free books from like for example the series. The publishers of all technical books I like O'Reilly or Manning, are publishing DRM- If I want a book that's only available as DRM-enabled, I buy in print. I used to have a Google Play Music and also tried Apple But then I realized that
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aBlE to dO it sOoner or later.

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iN iTseLf MAy ProteCt sIgnificAnt revenueS foR tHe content proVIdErs. DRM also
MakEs it very cleaR to Those wItH acCEss to The ConteNt that CErtain Things --
say, TrYIng to kEEp permaNENt CopiEs of content streamED fROm sites like
NetFlix thAt RElY ON suBscRiptions to OpErate -- ARe not inTEnDED To bE
Possible. Again, In a culture wHEre A lot of PeOplE Have baRely eVeN HeaRd of
copyrigHt anD just assuMe anytHIng avaiLAble onlIne is fRee, ThaT can BE a BiG
wiN.

~~~
rOYwiGGiNs
> THOse Who reallY wAnT to riP somETHINg anD haVe a bIt of kNow-how will mosT
> liKely BE abLe to dO it soOner Or Later.

the kinD of piRaCy it does prevent Is puTting moviEs yOu'Ve wAtChed oNTo a USB
StiCk aNd handiNg it to a FRieNd WHO DoEsn't pay for a subscriPtION.

FOr distriButing PIrAtED content OnLinE, peoPLE wantIng tO DoWnload piRate
coNTeNt Still haVe To spelUnK thRouGh torREnt tRackerS or PopcoRn TimE Or
whatever to acTUally get the viDEo, WHEtHEr it Was Distributed OrigINallY witH
dRm or NOt. DRM-Free jUsT MaKEs life a little bit easIeR for thE uploAders.

------
bad_user
JUst a friendLY REminder tHat tHErE Are online shops That sEll DRM-free
COntent. I fOund tHis guide Helpful:
[htTPS://www.defeCtiVebYdeSigN.ORg/Guide](https://www.DEFectIvEbydesiGn.oRg/guide)

in pArtIcuLar, i'm A Downpour.Com custoMeR fOr AuDio Books. uP until noW tHey
HaD alL the cONtent I WanteD, higH qUaLIty Too. And wITh A SUbscRiPtIon tHe
pRiCes arE gooD.

i've Also bouGht DRM-freE gaMEs frOm goG.com. E-boOks I sometimes BuY from
GooglE PLay, Where tHEY have mixEd content. I only bought DRM-FRee bookS frOm
theM, likE for exampLe tHe bookS in THe EndeR's Game SerieS. THe pUBLisheRS Of
All TeChnical booKS i neEded, lIkE O'ReIlly or MAnning, are publishinG dRM-
Free. If I want a bOok That'S ONlY avAIlABle As drM-eNABled, I buy it in
priNt.

For music, i uSEd To have a GooGLe PLaY Music sUbscripTion aND also trIed
Apple MUsic. But thEn i reaLIZed That
 something and have a bitof know-ho w wil l m ost  l ikel y be 
able to do it soon er or later.

However,  DRMca n  sti l lprove  a sign i fi c a ntim pe dim en t  t o cas ual  copyin g, which
i n i ts elf may prot e ct  significa ntrevenues for  th e cont en t p r ovide rs.  DRMalso
m a kes it  very cle ar to tho s e witha c ce ss t o the content tha t  c e rtain things - -
say,  t r yi n g  to  ke ep permane nt  copi e s of co n te n t str e amed from sit es like
Net f lix  thatre lyo n subs cript io n s t o operate - - ar e not int endedt o be
po s sible.Again,  in  acult u re  w her ea  lo t  o f p e opl e have b ar el y eve n he a r d of
c opy righ t and  just assumeany thin g  av ailab le on line  i s fre e, tha t can  b e a big
win.

~ ~~
r oywiggins 
>Th ose  w ho re a lly wa nttorip som ethinga ndha v e abit of know-how wi ll m os t
> like ly bea bl et o do itso one r or l ater. 

Th e  k ind of p iracyi tdo es prev en t is p ut tin g m ovies you' ve wat ched ont o a U S B
stick and ha n ding it to af ri e n dw ho d oes n't pay for  a s u bscr ipti o n. 

F o r dis tribu ti n gp irated content onli ne , peop le wa nting to down load pirat e c ontent s till ha v e to spelunk t hroug h torrentt rackersor Po pcorn Ti me or
wha t e ver to a ctu all y g ett h evideo, whethe r it w as  distri but ed orig ina lly  wi thDR M or not.  DRM-fre eju st  m ake s lif e  a littl ebit  e asi er fo r  the u pload ers. 
-- - --- 
bad_us e rJ u st a  f ri endl y r em inder  tha t  th ere are  online s hop s  tha tse ll DRM- free
content.  I  found thi sgui de hel p f ul:
[htt ps://www.defectivebydes i gn.org/ gui de](h ttps ://www.de fec tiveby des i gn.org /guide )

In  p art i c ular, I 'm  aDo wnpour.com c ust omerfo r au dio boo ks. Up until now t h eyhad all the c ont entI wa nte d ,h igh  q u ali t y  too. And witha subscrip ti o nthe
prices are  g ood.

I 've als o bou g ht DRM- free game s from Go g. com. E -bo oks I some times bu y from
Go o gle P l ay , whe rethey h av e m ixedconten t . I  only  bough tDRM-fr ee bo ok s from
t hem, like for example t he boo ks in  th e Ender's  Ga m e s eries. Th e pu blishers o f
a lltechn ica l  book s In ee ded ,  like  O'R e illy or M a nn ing , ar e publishin g D RM- 
free . I f  I wan t abook that's onlya vailable as DR M-en a b led , I buyit  in
print.

Fo r m us i c , I used  t o have a Go ogle Pla yM usicsubscr iption  and al s o  t r ied
Ap pleMus ic. But t hen  I realize dth a t
 something_and have_a bit of know-how_will most_likely_be
able to_do_it sooner or_later.

However, DRM can_still prove a significant_impediment to casual_copying,_which
in itself may protect significant revenues for the content providers. DRM also
makes it very_clear_to those_with_access_to the content that certain_things --
say, trying to keep_permanent copies_of content streamed from sites like
Netflix that rely_on_subscriptions to operate_-- are not intended to be
possible. Again, in a_culture where a lot of people_have barely even_heard_of
copyright_and just assume anything_available online is free, that can_be a big
win.

~~~
roywiggins
> Those who really_want to rip something and have a_bit of know-how will most
> likely_be able to do it_sooner or_later.

The kind of piracy it_does prevent is_putting movies_you've watched onto_a USB
stick and handing it to_a friend who_doesn't pay for a subscription.

For distributing_pirated_content online, people_wanting_to_download pirate
content_still have to_spelunk_through torrent_trackers_or Popcorn Time or
whatever to actually_get_the video, whether it was distributed originally_with
DRM or not. DRM-free_just_makes life a little_bit easier for the uploaders.

------
bad_user
Just_a friendly reminder that there are_online shops_that sell_DRM-free
content. I found this guide helpful:
[https://www.defectivebydesign.org/guide](https://www.defectivebydesign.org/guide)

In particular, I'm a Downpour.com customer_for audio books. Up until now_they
had all the content_I wanted,_high_quality too. And_with_a subscription_the
prices are good.

I've also bought DRM-free games_from Gog.com._E-books I sometimes buy from
Google Play,_where they have mixed_content._I only bought DRM-free books from
them,_like for example the books in_the Ender's Game series. The_publishers_of
all_technical books I needed, like_O'Reilly or Manning, are publishing DRM-
free._If I want_a book that's only available as DRM-enabled,_I_buy it in
print.

For music, I used_to_have a Google Play Music subscription_and_also_tried
Apple Music. But then I_realized that