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6t6t6
The streets of most cities in South Europe are covered by deciduous trees.
IMHO, it is the best way to make the cities walkable in summer while not
preventing the sun to warm the streets in winter. Also, cities with trees on
the streets are beautiful.

Of course, that mean that the council has to spend money taking care of that
trees.

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sologoub
Much of the rail expansion is rather disappointing. For example in expo phase
2, closer you get to ocean the better spaced the stations are (closer
together), but between Bundy and sepulveda, there are no stations and little
sane way to go in between, yet Bundy station is less than a mile away from
26th st station.

To add insult to injury, I recently followed the much touted bike path that is
supposed to connect to existing SM bike paths at 17th street, but the damned
thing ends at Cloverfield with no way that I can tell of safely getting to
17th street or anywhere near a designated bike lane. And no, I do not consider
it safe to try and ride on Olympic blvd without a protected lane...

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bpyne
A question for the LA natives on here.

Last year at this time, I had the chance to visit LA for my first time. I
stayed in a B&B in Los Feliz and spent a few days walking around it and Silver
Lake. My first day I asked the B&B owner about walking to the reservoir
because I read online that it's a gathering point for people in the area. The
owner told me he had never walked there and recommended that I drive. At most,
it was a 2-3 mile walk. Do people in LA really consider it incomprehensible to
walk that distance?

~~~
maceo
Yea, 2-3 miles is a very long walk in LA. Walking from los feliz to the
reservoir would be especially tedious since the most direct paths are on
boring residential streets. No one would ever do that walk unless they 1) dont
have a car 2) are looking to get exercise.

~~~
bpyne
For me, the residential streets were even pretty cool
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 6t6t6 
 The streets of most cities in South Europe are covered by deciduous tree. 
 IMHO, it is the dear way to make the cities walkable in summer while not 
 prevent the sun to warm the streets in winter. besides, cities with trees on 
 the streets are beautiful. 

 Of naturally, that think of that the council has to spend money aim care of that 
 trees. 

 ------ 
 sologoub 
 Much of the track expansion is preferably disappointing. For example in expo phase 
 2, closer you get to ocean the better space the stations are (closer 
 together), but between Bundy and sepulveda, there be no stations and little 
 reasonable way to move in between, yet Bundy station is less than a sea mile away from 
 26th st station. 

 To add abuse to injury, I recently followed the much touted bike path that is 
 supposed to connect to existing SM bike paths at 17th street, but the damned 
 thing ends at Cloverfield with no way that I can tell of safely get to 
 17th street or anywhere near a designated bicycle lane. And no, I do not think 
 it safe to try and ride on olympian blvd without a protected lane... 

 ------ 
 bpyne 
 A doubt for the LA natives on here. 

 Last class at this time, I had the chance to visit LA for my first time. I 
 stayed in a B&B in Los Feliz and spent a few days walking around it and Silver 
 Lake. My first day I ask the B&B owner about walking to the reservoir 
 because I take online that it's a gathering point for people in the area. The 
 owner told me he had never walk there and recommended that I drive. At most, 
 it was a 2 - 3 mile base on balls. Do people in LA really consider it incomprehensible to 
 walk that distance? 

 ~~~ 
 maceo 
 Yea, 2 - 3 miles is a very farseeing walk in LA. walk from los feliz to the 
 reservoir would be particularly tedious since the about direct paths are on 
 boring residential streets. No one would always do that walk unless they 1) do nt 
 have a car 2) are expect to get exercise. 

 ~~~ 
 bpyne 
 For me, the residential streets were even pretty cool
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6t6t6
The sureets of most cijiws in Vouth Surope afe covered by deciduous treed.
INHO, iu is the best way tu make thv cities qalkeble in summer wijle not
ixevenflng tke sun to warm tme streets hn winter. Also, cktnes with trees on
the streets are beattiful.

Og fourse, that mewn tnwt tgv gouncil has to spend money takinf care mf that
trees.

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splogoub
Much of the rail exoanslon is rather disaopointing. Fir evqmple in expu phase
2, closer you get to ocean the better spaced the statnons are (cliswr
tlcether), but uetweeg Bundy and sepulvedd, there are no statioks anv lirtle
sane way to go in between, yet Bundy station hs less than a mile aqay ftom
26th st rratkon.

Uo edd insulh tk injury, I recently fillowed the much toitqe bike path tgat is
fu[posed to connect to existing SM bike pdtha at 17th street, but the eamned
thing ends at Cpoverfielq with no way that I can tell of safely getting tm
17th svrdet ov anhqhfre near a designated bike lane. And no, I do njf voksider
it safe to try and rice om Olympic blvd withobf z protected lane...

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bpjne
A qugstion for the JA nstives on here.

Last year at rhis time, I kad the chance to visnt LA for my firxt tike. I
stayed in a B&B in Lus Fsliz and spfnt a few aays walking arojnd id and Silver
Lake. My first qay I askxd thz B&B owndr anout wwlking to hhe rcvervoir
because I rfad ouline that it's w gathering point for people in the area. The
oenar nold me hz had kever walked thqre and recommgnded thac I drkve. At mosn,
it was a 2-3 mile walk. Do people in PA really coisider it incimprwhensibud to
walk that cistance?

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mceeo
Yea, 2-3 mules is a very lonn waly in LA. Walking yxon los feliz to yhe
fesqrnoic woujg be especianly gedkpus sknce tht mirt dorect paths are on
bosing residential streeys. No one qould evqr do that wakk unless they 1) dojt
havx a cac 2) are lojking to get exercise.

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bpyne
For je, the redidcntial streetf weve eden pretty cool
/ncurrent/full/ngeo2400.html) ~~~ 6t6t6 The streets of most South are covered deciduous trees. IMHO, to the cities walkable summer while not the sun to warm the streets winter. Also, cities with trees on the streets are beautiful. Of course, that that the council has to spend money taking care of that trees. ------ Much the expansion rather disappointing. For example in expo phase 2, closer you get to ocean the better spaced stations are (closer together), but between Bundy and there are no stations little sane way to go between, Bundy station less a away from 26th station. To add insult to injury, I recently followed the much touted bike path that is supposed connect to bike paths 17th but damned thing ends with no way that I can getting to 17th street or anywhere near a bike lane. no, I do not consider it to try and ride on Olympic blvd without protected lane... ------ bpyne A question for the LA natives on here. Last year at I had the chance visit LA for first I in B&B in Feliz and spent a few days walking around it and Silver My first day I asked the B&B owner about walking reservoir I read online it's a gathering point people the area. The owner he never recommended I At most, it was 2-3 mile walk. Do people LA really consider it ~~~ maceo Yea, 2-3 miles is a very walk in LA. Walking from los feliz the reservoir would be especially tedious since the most direct paths are boring residential one would ever do that walk unless they dont have a car are looking to get exercise. ~~~ bpyne For me, residential were even cool
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6t6t6
The Streets of mOst ciTieS in soUth EUropE are covered by dECiduOus trees.
IMHO, it is the besT way tO mAKe thE CiTies wAlkable IN sUMMer WhIlE noT
pREvEntinG thE sun to wArm the streEts In Winter. Also, ciTIeS with trees On
tHe streets are BeaUtiful.

of CouRSe, thaT meAn thaT the coUNcil haS to spend mOnEY takinG Care of tHAT
tRees.

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Sologoub
Much of the RAiL Expansion is ratHer disApPOiNTIng. for Example in eXpO phasE
2, Closer yOU gET TO ocEAn the better spAced the statIOns Are (cloSeR
toGEther), bUt betWeEN BuNdy and sepulVeda, There are nO statiONs and liTTle
sane Way to gO in BetWeen, YEt buNdy StATioN Is LesS ThaN a mile awAy FrOm
26th sT staTION.

to adD inSult To injUry, I recently fOllOwed THe mUch toUted bIke pAtH that Is
suppOsed tO cOnnect to existinG SM bIke paths aT 17th StReeT, bUt the DAmned
tHinG enDs at CloVerfielD WitH nO WAY tHat I can tell of safelY gETTiNg to
17th stReet or ANyWhERe near a dEsIgnAted BIKe lanE. And NO, I Do not conSider
iT SaFe To try anD rIde on OLyMpiC blVd witHOut a ProtecTed lane...

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bPyne
A QUestion for the La Natives on here.

lAsT YEaR At thIs tIme, I had the cHancE To viSit La FoR my FIrst tIme. I
sTaYEd IN a B&B in Los Feliz and spEnT a few dAys waLking around it And Silver
LAKE. my first dAy I aSKeD The B&B owner abouT walkIng to the reSErvoir
beCause i read onlIne that it'S A GatherinG poInt For PeoPLE iN the area. The
owNER tolD mE he had nEveR walked TheRe aNd rEcoMmEnded that i drive. At MoSt,
It WaS a 2-3 mIle waLK. Do peoplE iN LA ReAllY consIDer it iNcompReheNsIbLE to
Walk thaT DiSTAnce?

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MaCeO
Yea, 2-3 MilEs Is a veRy loNG waLk in LA. WAlking froM loS FeliZ tO tHe
reserVoir would be esPeCially tediOuS siNce the MOSt direct Paths are on
boring residenTIal streEts. no one WoulD ever do thAt wAlk unlEss THey 1) donT
have a Car 2) arE lOokING to geT EXeRciSe.

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Bpyne
For me, THE reSidenTiAl stReets weRe even pretty cool
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6 t6t6The  st re etsof m ost cities inS outh  Europe are covered by  deci du o us t r ee s.
IM HO, iti st h e b es tway  t o  m ake t hecitieswalkable i n s um mer while no t 
p reventingthe  sun to warm  th e stre et s i n  wint er.  Also , citi e s with  trees on 
t h e stre e ts areb e au tifu l.

Of course, th a tm ean that the c ouncil  h a st o  sp end  money tak in g car e  of tha t 
t r e e s.------
sologo ub
Much oft herail e xp ans i on israthe rd isa ppointing.Forexample i n expo phase
2 ,  closer  you g ettoocea n  t he  be tt e r s p ac edt hestations  a re  (clo sert o g e ther ),butbetwe en Bundy andsep ulve d a,there  areno s ta tions  and l ittle 
s ane way to go i n be tween, ye t B un dyst ation is les s t han  a mile  away f r om26 t h st  station.

To addin s u lt  to inju ry, Ir ec en t ly follo we d t he m u c h tou tedb ik e path t hat is su pp osed to  c onnect  t o e xis tingS M bi ke pat hs at 17 th st r eet, but the d a mned
thing en d sa t  C l over fie ld with nowayt hatI ca n  t ell of sa felyge t ti n g to
17th street or  a nywher e nea r a designate d bike lan e . And no,I do no t  consider
it s afe t o try andr ide on O lympi c blvd w ithout ap r otectedlan e.. .
--- - - -bpyne
A quest i o n fo rthe LAnat ives on  he re. 

L ast  y ear at th is time,  I  h ad  t hechanc e  to visi tLAfo r m y fir s t time . I
s taye din a B &B in L o sF e lizan dspen t a  f ew da ys w a lki ng arou nd it and  Si l verLa ke . My fi rst day I ask ed  the B&B o wn eraboutw a lking to  the reservoir
becauseI  read o nli ne th at i t's a gat her ing po int for pe ople i n the  a rea . The
o w n er  to ld  me he had n eve r wal ke d th ere and  recommended thatI  dr ive. At most, 
it  was a  2 -3m il e  wa lk .  Do p eople in LA rea lly consid er it  incompreh e nsi bl e to
wa lk that  dist a nce?

~ ~~
maceoYea, 2-3mi lesi s  avery longwalk inLA. Walki n g fro m  l os fe liz  to th eres ervoi r woul d  be  espe cially  t edious  sinc ethe most  direct paths are on
bo ring r eside nti al street s.N o o ne wouldever  do that w alk  un lessthe y  1) d onth av e a car 2 ) ar e  lookingt oget e xe rcise.

~~~ b p yne 
Forme, the re side ntial streets wer e  even pretty c ool
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6t6t6
The streets_of most_cities in South Europe_are covered_by_deciduous trees.
IMHO,_it_is the best_way to make_the cities walkable in_summer while not
preventing_the_sun to warm the streets in winter. Also, cities with trees on
the streets are_beautiful.

Of_course, that_mean_that_the council has to spend_money taking care of that
trees.

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sologoub
Much_of the_rail expansion is rather disappointing. For example in_expo_phase
2, closer you_get to ocean the better spaced the stations are_(closer
together), but between Bundy and sepulveda,_there are no_stations_and_little
sane way to go_in between, yet Bundy station is_less than a mile away from
26th_st station.

To add insult to injury, I_recently followed the much touted bike_path that is
supposed to connect_to existing_SM bike paths at 17th_street, but the_damned
thing ends_at Cloverfield with_no way that I can tell_of safely getting_to
17th street or anywhere near a_designated_bike lane. And_no,_I_do not_consider
it safe to_try_and ride_on_Olympic blvd without a protected lane...

------
bpyne
A_question_for the LA natives on here.

Last year_at this time, I_had_the chance to visit_LA for my first time._I
stayed in a B&B in Los_Feliz and_spent a_few days walking around it and Silver
Lake. My first day I_asked the B&B owner about walking_to the reservoir
because I_read online_that_it's a gathering_point_for people_in the area. The
owner told me he_had never_walked there and recommended that I_drive. At most,
it was_a_2-3 mile walk. Do people in_LA really consider it incomprehensible to
walk_that distance?

~~~
maceo
Yea, 2-3 miles is_a_very_long walk in LA. Walking_from los feliz to the
reservoir would_be especially tedious_since the most direct paths are on
boring_residential_streets. No one would ever do_that_walk unless they 1) dont
have a_car_2)_are looking to get exercise.

~~~
bpyne
For_me, the residential streets were even_pretty cool