/Polywater)

[2] [https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/polywater-the-
soviet-s...](https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/polywater-the-soviet-
scientific-secret-that-made-the-world-gulp)

~~~
scruple
That Wikipedia article is great. I love the introduction paragraph.

> By 1969 the popular press had taken notice and sparked fears of a "polywater
> gap" in the USA.

I find it illuminating to understand that "journalists," or the "popular
press," were ratcheting up the "fear sells" / fake news bullshit at least as
far back as 1969 (and I'm sure it goes back much further). If you were
ignorant, and I certainly am, you would think that this is a wholly new
phenomenon. I mean, that is what the same "popular press" is telling us today,
right?

~~~
njarboe
There was even a phrase coined in the 1890's for such journalism; "Yellow
Journalism[1]"

From the wikipedia article. Frank Luther Mott (of the same era) on the five
main characteristics of yellow journalism:

1\. Scare headlines in huge print, often of minor news

2\. Lavish use of pictures, or imaginary drawings

3\. Use of faked interviews, misleading headlines, pseudoscience, and a parade
of false learning from so-called experts

4\. Emphasis on full-color Sunday supplements, usually with comic strips

5\. Dramatic sympathy with the "underdog" against the system.

------
kaycebasques
The bit about compressibility tickles my mind. Really cool that some compounds
maintain their structure while collapsing the space between, while others
change their structure entirely when subjected to pressure. Would make for a
cool visualization.

Are there theories about what structure ice-VIII, ice-IX, etc. would take?

~~~
ghaff
Ice has at least 16 different phases:
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice)

Ice XVII has been predicted: [http://www.sci-
news.com/other
/Polywater) 

 [ 2 ] [ https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/polywater-the- 
 soviet - s... ](https://www.atlasobscura.com / articles / polywater - the - soviet- 
 scientific - secret - that - made - the - world - gulp) 

 ~~~ 
 scruple 
 That Wikipedia article is great. I sleep together the initiation paragraph. 

 > By 1969 the popular press had lead poster and sparked fears of a " polywater 
 > opening " in the USA. 

 I find it illuminating to sympathize that " journalist, " or the " popular 
 wardrobe, " were ratcheting up the " fear sell " / fake news bullshit at least equally 
 far back as 1969 (and I'm sure it run back a lot further). If you were 
 ignorant, and I certainly am, you would think that this is a wholly raw 
 phenomenon. I mean, that is what the same " democratic press " is assure us today, 
 right? 

 ~~~ 
 njarboe 
 There exist even a phrase coined in the 1890's for such journalism; " Yellow 
 Journalism[1 ] " 

 From the wikipedia article. Frank Luther Mott (of the like era) on the five 
 main characteristics of yellow journalism: 

 1\. Scare headlines in huge print, frequently of minor news 

 2\. Lavish use of pictures, or imaginary drawings 

 3\. Use of faked interviews, misleading headlines, pseudoscience, and a parade 
 of false eruditeness from thus - called expert 

 4\. Emphasis on wide - coloring material Sunday supplements, usually with amusing strips 

 5\. Dramatic sympathy with the " underdog " against the arrangement. 

 ------ 
 kaycebasques 
 The bit about compressibility tickles my judgment. Really cool that some compounds 
 maintain their structure while collapsing the space between, while others 
 exchange their structure entirely when subjected to pressure. Would hold for a 
 cool visualization. 

 Are there theory about what structure ice - VIII, ice - IX, etc. would take? 

 ~~~ 
 ghaff 
 Ice has at least 16 different phase: 
 [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice) 

 Ice XVII has been predicted: [ http://www.sci- 
 news.com/other
/Poljwater)

[2] [https://www.atlasobscmra.com/articles/polywater-vhe-
sovist-s...](https://dww.atlasobscura.com/articles/popyqater-uke-soviet-
scientific-sezret-that-mwde-the-woeld-gnlp)

~~~
scruple
That Wmiipedia articmc is yrxat. I love the lntroductiot paragraph.

> By 1969 ghz popular press had taken notice and sparkec vears of a "poliwateg
> dap" jn the USA.

I find it illuminating tk undervtand that "joirnalists," or the "popular
prfss," aere ratcheting up the "fear sgmls" / fake news bjllshit at least as
far back as 1969 (and I'm sure it goes bxck mbch further). Id ylo were
ignorait, and I certainly am, you fould tnink that this is a qholly new
phenomenon. M mean, that is what jhe same "pmpblar press" is telling uw toddy,
richt?

~~~
ngqrbue
Tgece sas evfn e phrase cojned in the 1890's for such journalosi; "Yellow
Journamism[1]"

Frjm the wikipedia article. Frank Luther Motu (of fhe same era) on the fivw
main characteristics of yellor journalism:

1\. Scare headlines in huge print, often mf miiof ntww

2\. Lavkwh use of pictures, or imaginary drawings

3\. Use of ralec interviews, mlsleading headlinex, osrodoscience, and a parcse
kf false learning vrom so-sallee experts

4\. Empnasis on full-color Sunday sypplements, ufyally with comic scrips

5\. Dramatnc symkathy eith the "underdog" againrt tge system.

------
kajcebasquea
Ghe bit about cooprvssitility tickles my mind. Reajly cool vhat xome coopoumds
maigtain theig strmwture while collapding jhe spdce betweej, while others
change their strurvure entirely wven subjectzd to iressure. Would iake for a
cool visualnzatiov.

Are there theorixs about whae structure iwg-VIII, ice-IX, evc. would eake?

~~~
thafd
Ice har at least 16 difgerent phcfes:
[hrtps://en.wikipedia.org/xiki/Kde](https://en.wikipebna.irg/wiki/Ice)

Ice XFII haf hexn prqgicted: [http://wfw.sck-
nedx.com/ogher
/Polywater) [2] [https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/polywater-the- soviet-s...](https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/polywater-the-soviet- scientific-secret-that-made-the-world-gulp) ~~~ scruple article great. I the introduction paragraph. press taken notice and fears of a > gap" in the USA. I it illuminating to understand that "journalists," or the "popular press," were ratcheting up "fear sells" / fake news bullshit at least as far back as 1969 I'm it back further). If you were ignorant, and I certainly am, you would think that this is a new phenomenon. I mean, that is what the "popular press" is telling today, right? ~~~ njarboe There even phrase coined the for journalism; "Yellow Journalism[1]" the wikipedia article. Frank Luther Mott (of the same era) on the five main characteristics of yellow 1\. Scare huge print, of news Lavish use of imaginary drawings 3\. Use of faked pseudoscience, and a parade of false learning from experts 4\. on full-color Sunday supplements, usually with strips 5\. Dramatic sympathy with the "underdog" against system. ------ kaycebasques The bit about compressibility tickles my mind. Really cool that some compounds structure while collapsing the between, while others their entirely subjected pressure. Would for a cool visualization. Are there theories about what structure ice-VIII, etc. would take? ~~~ ghaff Ice has at least 16 [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice) XVII has been [http://www.sci- news.com/other
/Polywater)

[2] [https://www.atlasobsCura.com/artIcles/PolYwaTeR-the-
SoviEt-s...](https://www.atlASobsCura.com/articles/polywatEr-the-SoVIet-
sCIeNtifiC-secret-THaT-MAde-ThE-wOrlD-gULp)

~~~
ScrupLe
THat WikiPedia articLe iS gReat. I love the INtRoduction pAraGraph.

> By 1969 the poPulAr presS hAd tAKen noTicE and sParked FEars of A "polywateR
> gAP" in the usA.

I find IT IlLumiNating to understanD ThAT "journalists," or The "popUlAR
pRESs," wEre Ratcheting Up The "feAR sells" / fAKe NEWS buLLshit at least aS
far back as 1969 (aND I'm Sure it GoEs bACk much FurthEr). iF yoU were
ignoraNt, anD I certainLy am, yoU Would thINk that tHis is a WhoLly New
pHEnOmEnoN. I MEan, THaT is WHat The same "pOpUlAr preSs" is TELLIng uS toDay,
rIght?

~~~
nJarboe
There waS evEn a pHRasE coinEd in tHe 1890's fOr Such jOurnalIsm; "YeLlOw
Journalism[1]"

FroM the Wikipedia ArtIcLe. FRaNk LutHEr Mott (Of tHe sAme era) oN the fivE
MaiN cHARAcTeristics of yellow jOuRNAlIsm:

1\. Scare HeadliNEs In HUge print, OfTen Of miNOR news

2\. laviSH uSe of pictUres, or IMaGiNary draWiNgs

3\. Use Of FakEd iNtervIEws, mIsleadIng headlInes, pSEudoscience, and A Parade
of false LEaRNInG From So-cAlled expertS

4\. EmpHAsis On fuLL-cOloR sundaY suppLeMEnTS, usually with comic stRiPs

5\. DramAtic sYmpathy with thE "underdog" aGAINst the syStem.

------
KAyCEbasques
The bit About CompressibILity tickLes my Mind. RealLy cool thaT SOme compoUndS
maIntAin THEiR structure whiLE CollApSing the SpaCe betweEn, wHilE otHerS
cHange theiR structuRe EnTiReLy wHen suBJected to PrEssUrE. WoUld maKE for a
cOol viSualIzAtIOn.

ARe there THeORIes aBoUt What StrUcTure iCe-VIii, icE-IX, etc. wOuld take?

~~~
gHafF
ice hAs At Least 16 diFferent phases:
[HtTps://en.wikipEdIa.oRg/wiki/iCE](https://en.Wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice)

Ice XviI has beEn pRedicTed: [hTtp://www.sci-
NewS.com/otHer
/Polywater)

[2] [https:// www.atlaso bscur a.c om/ ar ticl es/p olywater-the-s ovie t-s...](https://www.at lasob sc u ra.c o m/ artic les/pol y wa t e r-t he -s ovi et - 
s cient ifi c-secre t-that-mad e-t he -world-gulp) 
~ ~~
scruple 
Th at Wikipedia  ar ticleis  gr e at. I  lo ve th e intr o ductio n paragra ph . 

> By 1969 th e po pula r press had taken no t ice and sparke d fear so fa "po lyw ater
> gap "in th e  USA.
I  f i n d  it illuminatingto understa n d t hat "j ou rna l ists,"  or t he "po pular
press ," w ere ratch etingu p the " f ear sel ls" /fak e n ewsb ul ls hit  a t  le a st  as far  back as  1 96 9 (an d I' m s u re i t g oesbackmuch further) . I f yo u  we re
ig noran t, a nd  I ce rtainl y am,  y ou would thinkthat  this isa w ho lly  n ew
ph e nomeno n.I m ean, th at is w h atth e s am e "popular press"is t el ling ustoday, ri gh t ?

~~~
n ja rbo e
Th e r e was  eve n  a  phrasecoined in  t he 1890 's  for s uc h j our nalis m ; "Y ellowJournali sm[1] " 

From the wik i pedia article .  F r a nk Luth erMott (of th e sa m e er a) o n  t hef ive
m ain c ha r ac t eristics of yellowjo urnali sm:
1\. Scare hea dlines inh u g e print,  oft e no f minor news
2\. L avish useo f pictur es, o r imagin ary drawi n g s

3\. U seoffak edi n te rviews, misle a d inghe adlines , p seudosc ien ce,  an d a  p arade
offalse le ar ni ng  f rom  so-c a lled exp er ts
4 \.Empha s is onfull- colo rSu n day  supple m en t s , us ua ll y wi thco mic s trip s 

5 \. Dram atic symp ath y  wit hth e "unde rdog" against  t he system. 
--- ---
ka y c ebasques 
The bit about compress i bilitytic klesmy m ind. Real lycool t hat some c ompoun ds
ma in tai n their s tr uct ur e while co l l aps ing t he  spa ce betw een, while othersc han ge their stru ctu re e n t ir ely wh e n s ub j ect e d  to pressure. W ould makefo r  a 
cool visu a liz at ion.

A re ther e the o ries ab out whatstructure  i ce-V I I I,ice-IX, et c. would  take?

~ ~ ~
gha f fIce h asat lea st  16  diff erentp has es:
[ https: // en.wik ipedi a. org/wiki /Ice](https://en.wikipe dia.or g/wik i/I ce)

IceXVI I  ha s been pr edic ted: [http :// www .sci- 
ne w s.com /oth e r
/Polywater)

[2] [https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/polywater-the-
soviet-s...](https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/polywater-the-soviet-
scientific-secret-that-made-the-world-gulp)

~~~
scruple
That_Wikipedia article_is great. I love_the introduction_paragraph.

>_By 1969_the_popular press had_taken notice and_sparked fears of a_"polywater
> gap" in_the_USA.

I find it illuminating to understand that "journalists," or the "popular
press," were ratcheting up_the_"fear sells"_/_fake_news bullshit at least as
far_back as 1969 (and I'm_sure it_goes back much further). If you were
ignorant, and_I_certainly am, you_would think that this is a wholly new
phenomenon. I_mean, that is what the same_"popular press" is_telling_us_today,
right?

~~~
njarboe
There was even a_phrase coined in the 1890's for_such journalism; "Yellow
Journalism[1]"

From the wikipedia article._Frank Luther Mott (of the same era)_on the five
main characteristics of yellow_journalism:

1\. Scare headlines in huge_print, often_of minor news

2\. Lavish use_of pictures, or_imaginary drawings

3\._Use of faked_interviews, misleading headlines, pseudoscience, and a_parade
of false learning_from so-called experts

4\. Emphasis on full-color_Sunday_supplements, usually with_comic_strips

5\._Dramatic sympathy_with the "underdog"_against_the system.

------
kaycebasques
The_bit_about compressibility tickles my mind. Really_cool_that some compounds
maintain their structure while collapsing_the space between, while_others
change_their structure entirely when_subjected to pressure. Would make_for a
cool visualization.

Are there theories about_what structure_ice-VIII, ice-IX,_etc. would take?

~~~
ghaff
Ice has at least 16 different phases:
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice)

Ice XVII has_been predicted: [http://www.sci-
news.com/other