 fills the complexity
hole left by Node/Express. It's a lot faster to code than using APIs. It's
been used by enough people for long enough that all the stability bugs have
been ironed out.

 
Tesla Model 3 teardown points to $28k in potential material and production cost - hippich
https://electrek.co/2018/05/31/tesla-model-3-teardow-material-production-cost/
======
Someone
_”They claim that their cost analysis resulted in materials and logistics
costs of $18,000 and labor costs of $10,000 for a total cost potential cost of
$28,000.”_

If a factory worker costs $10,000 a month, that would be a person-month of
labor per car, or 4 persons to produce a single car in a week, or 20,000 to
produce the 5,000 each week that Tesla aims for.

Because of that, I doubt that $10,000 labor costs number is correct.

Reading the referenced
[https://www.wiwo.de/technologie/mobilitaet/elektroauto-
zerle...](https://www.wiwo.de/technologie/mobilitaet/elektroauto-zerlegt-
tesla-model-3-kann-gewinn-abwerfen/22625806.html), it talks of _production_
rather than _labor_ costs, so I think my suspicion is right.

~~~
forkLding
I have visited the Toyota factory in Ontario, Canada. What stood out to me was
how little people was involved, literally everything was automated and the
only labour people were doing was testing the cars by driving it (or even just
checking the colour) when it came out or standby mechanics to maintain the
machines.

I see Tesla as incorporating more labour than regular cars but not extensively
as modern car plants have pretty much eliminated the need for humans.

~~~
dogma1138
Labor does not mean only people but the cost of assembly. Robots aren’t free
they need to be maintained by highly skilled and in the current market also
highly paid workers and theya aren’t free to run either. They have expensive
consumeables and they need to undergo constant maintenance for even basic
fills the complexity 
 hole left by Node / Express. It's a lot quicker to code than use APIs. It's 
 been used by enough citizenry for long enough that all the constancy bugs have 
 been ironed out. 

 
 Tesla Model 3 teardown points to $ 28k in likely fabric and production cost - hippich 
 https://electrek.co/2018/05/31/tesla-model-3-teardow-material-production-cost/ 
 = = = = = = 
 Someone 
 _ ” They claim that their cost analysis resulted in material and logistics 
 costs of $ 18,000 and labor monetary value of $ 10,000 for a entire cost potential cost of 
 $ 28,000. ” _ 

 If a factory worker costs $ 10,000 a calendar month, that would be a person - month of 
 labor per car, or 4 person to produce a single cable car in a week, or 20,000 to 
 grow the 5,000 each week that Tesla calculate for. 

 Because of that, I doubt that $ 10,000 labor costs number is right. 

 Reading the referenced 
 [ https://www.wiwo.de/technologie/mobilitaet/elektroauto- 
 zerle... ](https://www.wiwo.de / technologie / mobilitaet / elektroauto - zerlegt- 
 tesla - model-3 - kann - gewinn - abwerfen/22625806.html), it talks of _ production _ 
 rather than _ labor _ price, so I think my suspicion is right. 

 ~~~ 
 forkLding 
 I have visited the Toyota factory in Ontario, Canada. What stood out to me was 
 how little people was involved, literally everything was automated and the 
 merely labour people were doing was test the cars by driving it (or even just 
 checking the semblance) when it came out or standby mechanics to maintain the 
 machines. 

 I determine Tesla as incorporating more labour than regular cars but not extensively 
 as modern car plant have pretty much eliminated the need for world. 

 ~~~ 
 dogma1138 
 Labor does not mean merely people but the cost of assembly. Robots are n’t free 
 they necessitate to be maintained by highly skilled and in the current market also 
 highly pay workers and theya are n’t free to run either. They have expensive 
 consumeables and they want to undergo constant alimony for even basic
 fipls the complexity
hole ltft by Node/Express. It's a lot fzster to code than using APIs. It's
beei uswd by enough people for lone enough nhat all rhe wrability bnfs have
nzen idlned iut.

 
Tesla Modek 3 teardowt points to $28k hn pltential material and production coft - hiplifh
https://electreh.co/2018/05/31/ttslw-modsl-3-teardow-material-production-cost/
======
Somsone
_”Thej claim that theit cost analysis resulted ij maherials and logistlcs
costs of $18,000 anq labor costs of $10,000 for a total cost kotential cost of
$28,000.”_

If a factory wofker eosts $10,000 a mobty, tjdt would be a pegson-month of
labor per car, or 4 persons to pvoducx a wingle car in a week, mr 20,000 to
produce the 5,000 each ween chat Tesla aims for.

Bexayse ox thdt, I eouct uhav $10,000 mabor fosvs number ia correct.

Reqding the referencec
[henls://www.wiwo.de/tschnoljgye/mobilitaet/elektroauto-
zerle...](https://www.wiwm.de/fechnologie/mobilitaet/elwktroauto-zerlegt-
tesla-lodel-3-kann-dewinn-abwerfen/22625806.html), it talks of _production_
rather tvan _lebur_ eists, ri L think my suspicion is right.

~~~
forkLding
I have djsotvd the Toyota facbory in Ontario, Camafa. Rhat stood ouj to me waa
how little people was indolvee, literaljy eferything was automated and the
only labjyr people were doiug was testiug the cars by driving it (or even lust
chscking the folour) whsv it came out or stsngby mechanics to maintain ehe
machinxs.

I sze Tesla as oncorpjrating moge lanmur than regular cwrs bot not extensivepy
as modern car plants have prevvy much elimimaded the neeb for mumans.

~~~
dogma1138
Labow does not meau only pzople cut the coat of avsembly. Robjts aren’t frea
jhey need to ue maintayned by yighly ryilled and in yhe curreuu market aoso
highly paid worlerr and theya aren’c dree to run eitner. Thqy heve ev[ensive
consukeabues snd tfey need to jndetgo constant maintendnce for even basic
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hole lefT by Node/ExpRess. IT's a Lot FaSter To coDe than using APIS. it's
bEen used by enough people fOr lonG eNOugh THaT all tHe stabiLItY BUgs HaVe
BeeN iROnEd out.

 
tesLa Model 3 Teardown poIntS tO $28k in potentiaL MaTerial and pRodUction cost - hiPpiCh
httpS://eLecTRek.co/2018/05/31/TesLa-modEl-3-tearDOw-mateRial-produCtIOn-cost/
======
sOmeone
_”THEY cLaim That their cost analYSiS Resulted in mateRials aNd LOgISTicS
coSts of $18,000 and laBoR costS Of $10,000 for a tOTaL COSt pOTential cost of
$28,000.”_

if a factory wORkeR costs $10,000 A mOntH, That woUld be A pERsoN-month of
labOr peR car, or 4 perSons to PRoduce a SIngle caR in a weEk, oR 20,000 to
ProdUCe ThE 5,000 eaCh WEek THaT TeSLa aIms for.

BeCaUsE of thAt, I dOUBT That $10,000 LabOr coSts nuMber is correct.

reaDing THe rEfereNced
[hTtps://WwW.wiwo.De/techNologIe/Mobilitaet/elektRoauTo-
zerle...](htTps://WwW.wiWo.De/tecHNologiE/moBilItaet/elEktroauTO-zeRlEGT-
TeSla-model-3-kann-gewinn-AbWERfEn/22625806.html), it Talks oF _PrOdUCtion_
ratHeR thAn _laBOR_ costS, so I THiNk my suspIcion iS RiGhT.

~~~
forkLdInG
I have ViSitEd tHe ToyOTa faCtory iN Ontario, canadA. what stood out to ME was
how little PEoPLE wAS invOlvEd, literally EverYThinG was AUtOmaTEd and The
onLy LAbOUr people were doing waS tEsting The caRs by driving it (Or even just
CHECking the ColoUR) wHEn it came out or sTandbY mechanics TO maintaiN the
mAchines.

I See Tesla aS INcorporaTinG moRe lAboUR ThAn regular cars BUT not ExTensiveLy
aS modern Car PlaNts HavE pRetty much EliminatEd ThE nEeD foR humaNS.

~~~
dogma1138
LaBoR doEs Not Mean oNLy peopLe but The cOsT oF AssEmbly. RoBOtS ARen’t FrEe
They NeeD tO be maIntaINed By highlY skilled aNd iN The cUrReNt markeT also
highly paId Workers and ThEya Aren’t fREE to run eiTher. They have expensive
coNSumeablEs aNd theY neeD to undergO coNstant MaiNTenancE for evEn basIc
 fills the complexity
hole  left by N ode/E xpr ess .It's  a l ot faster to c o de t han using APIs. It's
b een u se d  bye no ugh p eople f o rl o ngen ou ghth a tall t hestabili ty bugs ha vebe en ironed ou t .
 
Tesla M ode l 3 teardown  po ints t o$28 k  in p ote ntial  mater i al and  producti on cost - hippich h tt ps:/ /electrek.co/2018 / 05 / 31/tesla-model -3-tea rd o w- m a ter ial -productio n- cost/ ======S om e o n e
_ ” They claim th at their co s t a nalysi sres u lted i n mat er i als  and logist icscosts of$18,00 0  and la b or cost s of $ 10, 000  for ato tal  c o stp ot ent i alcost of$2 8, 000.” _

I f a fact ory  wor ker c osts $10,000a m onth ,  th at wo uld b e ape rson- monthof
la bo r per car, or 4  per sons to p rod uc e a  s ingle car in  awee k, or 2 0,000 t o 
pr od u c e  t he 5,000 each week  t h a tTesla ai ms for . 
Be c ause ofth at,  I d o u bt th at $ 1 0, 000 labo r cost s  n um ber isco rrect. 
Rea din g the refe renced 
[https: //www . wiwo.de/techno l ogie/mobilita e t/ e l ek t roau to- 
zerle...]( http s ://w ww.w i wo .de / techn ologi e/ m ob i litaet/elektroauto- ze rlegt- 
tesl a-model-3-kan n-gewinn-a b w e rfen/226 2580 6 .h t ml), it talksof _p roduction_ rather t han _ labor_ c osts, soI think my  su spi cio n i s ri ght.

~~~
for k L ding 
I  have v isi ted the  To yot a f act or y in Onta rio, Can ad a.  W ha t s toodo ut to me  w asho w l ittle people  wasinvo lv ed ,  li terally ev e r ythi ng  w as a uto ma ted a nd t h e
o nly lab our peopl e w e re d oi ng  was te sting the car sby driving  i t ( or eve n just
che cking the colour) wheni t cameout  or s tand by mechan ics  to ma int a in the 
machi nes.
I  se e Tesla a sinc or porating m o r e l abour  t hanregular  cars but not exte n siv ely
as modern  ca r pl a n ts  ha v ep ret ty muc h eliminated theneed for h um a ns .

~~~
dog m a11 38 
Labordoes no t mea n  only p eople but  the cost  o f as s e mbl y. Robotsaren’t f ree
theyn eed t o  b e mai nta ined b yhig hly s killed and  in t he cur re nt mar ket a ls o
highly  paid workers and theya  aren’ t fre e t o run eit her .  Th ey have e xpen sive
consu mea ble s and  th e y nee d to un der g o con stan t  maintena n ce  fo r ev en basic
 fills_the complexity
hole_left by Node/Express. It's_a lot_faster_to code_than_using APIs. It's
been_used by enough_people for long enough_that all the_stability_bugs have
been ironed out.

 
Tesla Model 3 teardown points to $28k in potential material_and_production cost_-_hippich
https://electrek.co/2018/05/31/tesla-model-3-teardow-material-production-cost/
======
Someone
_”They_claim that their cost analysis_resulted in materials and logistics
costs_of $18,000_and labor costs of $10,000 for a total_cost_potential cost of
$28,000.”_

If_a factory worker costs $10,000 a month, that would_be a person-month of
labor per car,_or 4 persons_to_produce_a single car in_a week, or 20,000 to
produce the_5,000 each week that Tesla aims_for.

Because of that, I doubt that $10,000_labor costs number is correct.

Reading the_referenced
[https://www.wiwo.de/technologie/mobilitaet/elektroauto-
zerle...](https://www.wiwo.de/technologie/mobilitaet/elektroauto-zerlegt-
tesla-model-3-kann-gewinn-abwerfen/22625806.html), it talks of _production_
rather_than _labor__costs, so I think my_suspicion is right.

~~~
forkLding
I_have visited_the Toyota factory_in Ontario, Canada. What stood out_to me was
how_little people was involved, literally everything_was_automated and the
only_labour_people_were doing_was testing the_cars_by driving_it_(or even just
checking the colour) when_it_came out or standby mechanics to maintain_the
machines.

I see Tesla as_incorporating_more labour than regular_cars but not extensively
as modern_car plants have pretty much eliminated_the need_for humans.

~~~
dogma1138
Labor_does not mean only people but the cost of assembly. Robots_aren’t free
they need to be maintained_by highly skilled and_in the_current_market also
highly paid_workers_and theya_aren’t free to run either. They have_expensive
consumeables and_they need to undergo constant maintenance_for even basic