 would do well
to spend the majority of one's time learning to accurately receive Morse code,
and not spend nearly as much time learning to send.

Also, now that Morse code proficiency has been removed from the list of
requirements for most amateur and commercial radio licenses, learning it is
like learning Latin -- an art for the dedicated purist, in keeping with the
true meaning of "amateur."

~~~
aparks517
Oh my! Strictly speaking, it may be true that most folks will spend a bit more
time on receiving practice to become minimally proficient. But I would caution
against de-emphasizing sending practice for two reasons. First, there's a wide
gap between sending /something/ and sending intelligible communications. At
low speeds, an iambic keyer with strict timing can cover up poor technique,
but at higher speeds or when sending with a straight key, it's surprisingly
easy to send gibberish. If I can't make our your call, I can't respond to you
;) Second, effort spent on sending practice helps reinforce receiving
practice. It also helps break things up, provide variety, and generally make
practice more fun. As you point out, the code is no longer compulsory. It's a
hobby and should be fun! :)

~~~
lutusp
I agree with your points. My comment was based on my personal experience as a
radio amateur. When I was young, when Morse was still central to radio
communications, I spent too much time learning how to send and far too little
learning how to receive, such that my receiving speed is now still far below
my ability to send.

> Second, effort spent on sending practice helps reinforce receiving practice.

Perhaps to some extent, but I find that I can send with much more adeptness
that the reverse. This (or its reverse) may be a common experience. I think
time should be devoted to both, so I think we're in essential agreement.

> It's a hobby and should be fun!

Complete agreement, and how times change. After the Titanic went down,
nautical authorities promptly required that radiotelegraph sets be installed
on all large ocean-going vessels. Now Morse is a diversion, an interesting
historical artifact.

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aparks517
I can say first-hand that Morse code is not just
would do well 
 to spend the majority of one's time learning to accurately receive Morse code, 
 and not spend about equally much time learning to station. 

 besides, now that Morse code proficiency has been removed from the list of 
 requirement for most amateur and commercial radio license, learning it is 
 like learning Latin -- an artwork for the dedicated purist, in keeping with the 
 true meaning of " amateur. " 

 ~~~ 
 aparks517 
 Oh my! rigorously speaking, it may be true that most tribe will spend a bit more 
 time on meet practice to become minimally proficient. But I would caution 
 against de - emphasizing transport practice for two reasons. First, there's a wide 
 opening between sending /something/ and sending intelligible communications. At 
 low speed, an iambic keyer with strict timing can cover up poor technique, 
 but at higher focal ratio or when air with a straight key, it's surprisingly 
 easy to send gibberish. If I can't make our your call, I can't respond to you 
 ;) Second, attempt spent on sending exercise help reinforce receive 
 practice. It also avail break things up, provide variety, and by and large make 
 practice more fun. As you point out, the code is no longer compulsory. It's a 
 hobby and should be fun! :) 

 ~~~ 
 lutusp 
 I agree with your point. My comment was based on my personal experience as a 
 radio amateur. When I was young, when Morse was however central to radio receiver 
 communication, I spent too much time learning how to air and far too little 
 learning how to receive, such that my receiving speed is now still far below 
 my ability to commit. 

 > Second, effort spend on sending practice help reinforce receiving exercise. 

 Perhaps to some extent, but I find that I can send with much more adeptness 
 that the reversion. This (or its reverse) may be a common experience. I think 
 prison term should be devoted to both, indeed I think we're in essential agreement. 

 > It's a hobby and should be fun! 

 Complete agreement, and how times change. After the Titanic went down, 
 nautical authorities promptly required that radiotelegraph set be installed 
 on all large ocean - travel vessels. Now Morse is a diversion, an interesting 
 historical artifact. 

 ------ 
 aparks517 
 I can say first - hand that Morse code is not barely
 wokld do well
to spend the oajority of one's time nearnihg to aczurately receive Morse code,
aid nit sptud nearly as much tioe learnijg to sebd.

Alwi, now that Morse code prknicieucb has been remoyed from tha list of
requiseoeuts for most amateur and commercial wadio locfnses, learning it ps
jike learning Latin -- an art for the desicated purist, in kerping with the
true meaning of "wmateur."

~~~
aparks517
Oh my! Strictly sksakybg, it may be true that most folks sill spend a bit more
time on rezeiviug practice ti bfwome minimaoly pgoficient. But I would cautiom
against de-empmasizmng wending practice for vwo reasons. First, thgre's a wida
gcp between sending /sonerhing/ and senaung inuelkifible fomjunicationa. At
low spewds, an iambic keyer wynn strict timjng cag sover up poor technique,
but at higher spteds kr when sending with a wtraight key, it's surptisingly
eafy to send gibberish. If I can't make our your call, I cai't rewpjve ho you
;) Second, effort spent on sending practicq htlpx reinforce regeiving
practice. It apsp helps break jhings bl, lrovide variety, anf generwlly nake
practyce kore fun. As you point out, tye code is nj longer compulsory. It's a
hobby and shoukd be fun! :)

~~~
lutusp
I agree witg your poinhs. My comjdnt was based on my parsonal tbperience as a
radyo amateuc. Wheu I was hounb, when Morse was still central to radio
clmmunncatimns, I spenh too much time learning how to send and far joo lintle
learnnng hoe to receive, fuch that my rgceiving fpeed is now stpll far bxlow
my abiliey to send.

> Sewlnd, effort s'ent on sqndibg peactice felps reinforcr receiviuy practicw.

Perhaps to some ewtent, gut I find that I xan send with mich mowe aveptnqvs
that the raverre. Gnis (of its rtrerwd) mau be a common experiance. I think
time shoulc ne devotee to botr, so I think ee're in essential wgreekenv.

> It's s hjbby and should be fun!

Complete agreemenh, akd how times shanne. Aster the Tntanic went down,
nautical authorities pronptly required thar radiotelegraph sejs ne installed
pn alj large owean-going vessels. Noq Morse is a divevsion, an interesting
hiatoricdl arhifact.

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aparks517
I can say first-hand that Morse code is not just
would do well to spend the majority time to accurately Morse code, and time to send. Also, that Morse code has been removed from the list requirements for most amateur and commercial radio licenses, learning it is like learning -- an art for the dedicated purist, in keeping with the true meaning "amateur." aparks517 my! speaking, it may be true that most folks will spend a bit more time on receiving to become minimally proficient. But I would caution de-emphasizing sending practice for reasons. First, there's a wide between /something/ and intelligible At speeds, an iambic with strict timing can cover up poor technique, but at higher speeds or when sending with a key, it's to send If can't our your call, respond to you ;) Second, effort practice helps reinforce receiving practice. It also helps things up, variety, and generally make practice more As you point out, the code is no compulsory. It's a hobby and should be fun! :) ~~~ lutusp I agree with your comment was based on personal experience as radio When was when Morse still central to radio communications, I spent too much time learning to send and far too little learning how to receive, my speed is now far below my ability send. Second, effort spent on helps receiving some but find that I can with much more adeptness that reverse. This (or its experience. I think time should be devoted to so I think we're in essential agreement. It's a hobby and should be fun! Complete agreement, and how times After the down, nautical authorities promptly required that radiotelegraph sets installed on all large vessels. Now Morse is a diversion, an interesting historical ------ I can first-hand that Morse is not just
 would do well
to spend the majoRity of one's Time lEarNinG tO accUratEly receive MorsE Code,
And not spend nearly as mucH time LeARninG To Send.

ALso, now tHAt mORse CoDe ProFiCIeNcy haS beEn removEd from the lIst Of
Requirements FOr Most amateuR anD commercial rAdiO licenSeS, leARning It iS
like LearniNG Latin -- An art for tHe DEdicatED purist, IN KeEpinG with the
true meaniNG oF "Amateur."

~~~
aparks517
OH my! StrIcTLy SPEakIng, It may be truE tHat moST folks wILl SPENd a BIt more
time on rEceiving praCTicE to becOmE miNImally ProfiCiENt. BUt I would cauTion
Against de-EmphasIZing senDIng pracTice foR twO reAsonS. fiRsT, thErE'S a wIDe
Gap BEtwEen sendiNg /SoMethiNg/ anD SENDing IntElliGible CommunicationS. At
Low sPEedS, an iaMbic kEyer WiTh strIct timIng caN cOver up poor technIque,
But at highEr sPeEds Or When sENding wIth A stRaight kEy, it's suRPriSiNGLY
eAsy to send gibberish. if i CAn'T make our Your caLL, I CaN'T respond To You
;) secoND, EfforT speNT oN sending PractiCE hElPs reinfOrCe receIvIng
PraCtice. iT alsO helps Break thiNgs up, PRovide variety, aND generally makE
PrACTiCE morE fuN. As you point Out, tHE codE is nO LoNgeR CompuLsory. it'S A
hOBby and should be fun! :)

~~~
luTuSp
I agrEe witH your points. My Comment was BASEd on my peRsonAL eXPerience as a
radIo amaTeur. When I wAS young, whEn MorSe was stiLl central TO Radio
comMunIcaTioNs, I SPEnT too much time lEARninG hOw to senD anD far too LitTle
LeaRniNg How to receIve, such tHaT mY rEcEivIng spEEd is now sTiLl fAr BelOw
my aBIlity tO send.

> secoNd, EfFOrt Spent on SEnDINg prAcTiCe heLps ReInforCe reCEivIng pracTice.

PerhaPs tO Some ExTeNt, but I fInd that I can seNd With much moRe AdePtness
THAt the revErse. This (or its reverse) may BE a commoN exPerieNce. I Think
time ShoUld be dEvoTEd to boTh, so I tHink wE'rE in ESSentiAL AgReeMeNt.

> It's a hobbY ANd sHould Be Fun!

COmplete Agreement, and how timES chAnge. After the TItaNic wENT dOwn,
NAuTIcaL aUThoRITies promptly reqUired that rAdIOtElegraph seTS be InStalled
On all laRge ocEAn-going Vessels. NoW Morse is a DiVersION, an InterestinG
historiCal artifaCT.

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aparKS517
I Can saY fiRst-hanD tHat morse Code is NOt jUst
 would do well
to spend th e majority  of o ne' s t im e le arni ng to accurate l y re ceive Morse code,
andnot s pe n d ne a rl y asmuch ti m el e arn in gtose n d. 

Als o,now tha t Morse co depr oficiency ha s  b een remove d f rom the list  of 
requi re men t s for  mo st am ateura nd com mercial r ad i o lice n ses, le a r ni ng i t is
like learnin g  L a tin -- an artfor th ed ed i c ate d p urist, inke eping with th e 
t r u e  me a ning of "amat eur."

~~~a par ks517Oh  my !  Stric tly s pe a kin g, it may b e tr ue that m ost fo l ks will spend a  bit m ore 
ti me o n  r ec eiv in g  pr a ct ice tobecome m in im allyprof i c i e nt.But  I w ouldcaution
again stde-e m pha sizin g sen ding  p racti ce for  twore asons. First, t here 's a wide 
ga pbet we en se n ding / som eth ing/ an d sendi n g i nt e l l ig ible communication s. A tlow spee ds, an ia mb i c keyerwi thstri c t  timi ng c a ncover up  poort ec hn ique,
b ut  at hi gh erspe eds o r  whe n send ing with  a st r aight key, it' s  surprisingly ea s y  t o  sen d g ibberish. I f Ic an't  mak e  o ury our c all,Ic an ' t respond to you
;)  S econd,  effo rt spent on s ending pra c t i ce helps  rei n fo r ce receiving
p racti ce. It als o  helps b reakthings u p, provid e variety,  an d g ene ral l y  m ake
practicem o re f un . As yo u p oint ou t,the  co deis  no longe r compul so ry .It 'sa
hob b y and sh ou ldbe  fu n! :) 
~~~
l utusp 
I a gr ee wit h yourp oi n t s. M yco mmen t w as  base d on mypersona l experie nce as a 
r ad io amat eur. When I w as  young, wh en  Mo rse wa s still ce ntral to radio
communic a tions,I s penttoomuch time  le arning  ho w  to se nd and  farto o l i t tle
l e a rn ing  h ow to rece i v e,suchth at m y recei ving speed is nows til l far below
m y a bili t y  t o s e nd . 

>  S e con d ,  effort spent o n sendingpr a ct ice helpsr ein fo rce rec eivingpract i ce.

Pe rhaps tosome exte nt , bu t I f ind that I  can sen d with mu c h mor e  a deptn ess 
thatth e r evers e. Thi s  (o r its  rever se ) maybe aco mmon exp erience. I think
time s houldbe de vot ed to bot h,s o I  think we 'rein essenti alagr eemen t.> It' s ah ob bya nd sh ould be fun!
C om ple t e  a greement, a n d how  time s c h ange.Afte r the Titanic wen t  down,
nautica l au t h ori tie s  pro mp tly required t hat  r a d iotelegr ap h sets be i nstalled 
o n  alllargeocean- going v e s se l s. Now  Mor seis a dive rsi on ,  an int er es t ing
hi stor ic al art ifact. 
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aparks517
I ca n say f irst- h and  that  M orse co d e is  not just
 would_do well
to_spend the majority of_one's time_learning_to accurately_receive_Morse code,
and not_spend nearly as_much time learning to_send.

Also, now that_Morse_code proficiency has been removed from the list of
requirements for most amateur and commercial_radio_licenses, learning_it_is
like_learning Latin -- an art_for the dedicated purist, in_keeping with_the
true meaning of "amateur."

~~~
aparks517
Oh my! Strictly speaking, it_may_be true that_most folks will spend a bit more
time on receiving_practice to become minimally proficient. But_I would caution
against_de-emphasizing_sending_practice for two reasons._First, there's a wide
gap between sending_/something/ and sending intelligible communications. At
low_speeds, an iambic keyer with strict timing_can cover up poor technique,
but at_higher speeds or when sending_with a_straight key, it's surprisingly
easy to_send gibberish. If_I can't_make our your_call, I can't respond to you
;)_Second, effort spent_on sending practice helps reinforce receiving
practice._It_also helps break_things_up,_provide variety,_and generally make
practice_more_fun. As_you_point out, the code is no_longer_compulsory. It's a
hobby and should be fun!_:)

~~~
lutusp
I agree with your_points._My comment was based_on my personal experience as_a
radio amateur. When I was young,_when Morse_was still_central to radio
communications, I spent too much time learning how to_send and far too little
learning how_to receive, such that_my receiving_speed_is now still_far_below
my ability_to send.

> Second, effort spent on sending_practice helps_reinforce receiving practice.

Perhaps to some extent,_but I find that_I_can send with much more adeptness
that_the reverse. This (or its reverse)_may be a common experience._I_think
time_should be devoted to both,_so I think we're in essential_agreement.

> It's a_hobby and should be fun!

Complete agreement, and_how_times change. After the Titanic went_down,
nautical_authorities promptly required that radiotelegraph sets_be_installed
on_all large ocean-going vessels. Now_Morse is a diversion, an interesting
historical_artifact.

------
aparks517
I can say first-hand that Morse code is not_just