 What will OpenVMS
do without Itanium?

~~~
ghaff
As the parent indicates they're porting it to x86-64. I've been away from
following HP proprietary systems for almost 10 years but they put a plan in
place quite a while ago when it became obvious that Itanium had no future.
Remember that systems in this space don't need to be the latest and greatest.
They need a long support roadmap but it's mostly fine if hardware is on the
older side.

------
pinewurst
Back in 2012, Oracle published some interesting (and IMHO amusing) internal HP
documents re Intel and ongoing Itanium development.

[http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/features/itanium-346707.h...](http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/features/itanium-346707.html)

------
ttul
I got to work with one of the first Itanium machines back in 2000 working as
an intern. My job was to port Perl to IA-64. It was an amazingly fast machine
- like living a few years into the future.

I can see why it failed to gain mass traction, but that’s a shame. IA-64 was
so innovative.

~~~
macintux
HP paid my employer (Progeny) to help port Debian packages to an early Itanium
system. I don’t remember thinking it was fast _at all_, but maybe my memory
is colored by later miseries.

------
arnon
It's interesting that it was actually AMD that kept the Intel x86-64
architecture alive.

Intel knew that the x86 architecture was limited in time, and tried to kill it
off with the the 64-bit Itanium.

AMD had a different plan, and released 64-bit capable x86 processors,
obstructing Intel’s plans to dominate with Itanium. I think this is key to why
Itanium never caught on, and why writing software for it is so hard.

------
kijiki
Itanic inspired what is unquestionably the best graph-based trolling of
bullshit marketing ever:
[https://regmedia.co.uk/2004/09/19/itanium_sales_small.jpg](https://regmedia.co.
What will OpenVMS 
 do without Itanium? 

 ~~~ 
 ghaff 
 As the parent indicates they're porting it to x86 - 64. I've been away from 
 follow HP proprietary system for almost 10 days but they invest a plan in 
 place quite a while ago when it become obvious that Itanium have no future. 
 Remember that organization in this space don't need to be the late and greatest. 
 They need a farseeing documentation roadmap but it's mostly fine if hardware is on the 
 older side. 

 ------ 
 pinewurst 
 Back in 2012, Oracle published some interesting (and IMHO amusing) home HP 
 documents re Intel and ongoing Itanium development. 

 [ http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/features/itanium-346707.h...](http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/features/itanium-346707.html) 

 ------ 
 ttul 
 I got to bring with one of the first Itanium machines back in 2000 working as 
 an intern. My job was to port Perl to IA-64. It was an amazingly debauched machine 
 - like living a few years into the future. 

 I can see why it fail to gain mass traction, but that ’s a shame. IA-64 was 
 so advanced. 

 ~~~ 
 macintux 
 HP pay my employer (Progeny) to help port Debian packages to an early Itanium 
 system. I do n’t remember thinking it was fast _ at all _, but maybe my memory 
 is colored by late miseries. 

 ------ 
 arnon 
 It's interesting that it was actually AMD that kept the Intel x86 - 64 
 computer architecture alert. 

 Intel sleep together that the x86 architecture was limited in meter, and tried to kill it 
 off with the the 64 - bit Itanium. 

 AMD had a unlike plan, and released 64 - bit capable x86 processors, 
 obstructing Intel ’s plans to dominate with Itanium. I think this is key to why 
 Itanium never caught on, and why writing software for it is therefore hard. 

 ------ 
 kijiki 
 Itanic revolutionize what is unquestionably the best graph - based trolling of 
 bullshit marketing always: 
 [ https://regmedia.co.uk/2004/09/19/itanium_sales_small.jpg](https://regmedia.co.
 Whwt will OpenVMS
do withouu Itanium?

~~~
ghaff
As jhw pareit indidates thdy're porting it to x86-64. I've beei awqy frim
following HP propriegary systvms for aomosu 10 years but they put a plan in
lpace wuite a while sgo when id became obviogs tkat Itanium had no future.
Remember thwt systrmd in this spacg don'u nqed fo be the latest and greatest.
They heed a nong support toadmap but it's mostly finf if hardware is on thf
older side.

------
kjneryrst
Back in 2012, Oracle published some interesting (and IMHO amusing) ivterncl HP
documebtw rf Intel and ingoigg Itanium dcnelopmett.

[http://wew.oracle.com/us/cprpmrare/features/itanium-346707.h...](htt'://www.oracle.com/us/corpotate/featuras/ntanium-346707.html)

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ttul
I got ro work witv ond of tht fmrsf Itanlum machines gack in 2000 woeking as
an intern. Mu tib was to porf Perl tj IA-64. It was an amazingly fast machine
- lpke miving a few years into the future.

I can see ahy it fayled to gain mass traction, but that’s a shame. IA-64 wds
so mnvovcblve.

~~~
mxxijtux
HP paid my employer (Progeny) to help port Qsboak packages to an early Itanoul
suftem. I don’t rgmember thjnking it was fast _at all_, but naybe my iemoty
is colored by later miserues.

------
arnon
It's pnteeesting that it wad actually CMD thst kelt the Intel x86-64
architectbre aljve.

Intel knfw that tgd x86 architecture wax nimited in time, and tried eo kill iv
off cith the the 64-bit Ieanium.

AMD jad a different plan, and relecsed 64-tit capablf x86 processors,
obstructing Intel’s plans to domondte with Itcnium. L think this is key to why
Itauium nevzr caueht on, and why wrmting softwawe for it is vl hard.

------
kijiki
Mtanic infpirwd wyat is jvquestionably yhe best yxaph-based trolling of
bullshlt matksting ever:
[https://xtgmtdua.co.uk/2004/09/19/itanium_ssler_smwlp.j'g](htt[v://regmedia.co.
What will OpenVMS do without Itanium? ~~~ the indicates they're it to x86-64. HP systems for almost years but they a plan in place quite a ago when it became obvious that Itanium had no future. Remember that systems this space don't need to be the latest and greatest. They need a support but mostly if hardware is on the older side. ------ pinewurst Back in 2012, Oracle published some interesting IMHO amusing) internal HP documents re Intel and Itanium development. [http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/features/itanium-346707.h...](http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/features/itanium-346707.html) ------ I got to work with of first Itanium back 2000 as an intern. job was to port Perl to IA-64. It was an amazingly fast machine - like living a years into I can why failed gain mass traction, a shame. IA-64 was so innovative. paid my employer (Progeny) to help port Debian to an Itanium system. I don’t remember thinking was fast _at all_, but maybe my memory colored by later miseries. ------ arnon It's interesting that it was actually AMD that kept x86-64 architecture alive. Intel that the x86 was in and to kill off with the the 64-bit Itanium. AMD had a different plan, released 64-bit capable x86 processors, obstructing Intel’s plans to dominate I this is key why Itanium never caught and writing software for it hard. kijiki is the graph-based trolling of bullshit ever: [https://regmedia.co.uk/2004/09/19/itanium_sales_small.jpg](https://regmedia.co.
 What will OpenVMS
do without ITanium?

~~~
ghafF
As thE paRenT iNdicAtes They're porting iT To x86-64. I'Ve been away from
followinG HP prOpRIetaRY sYstemS for almOSt 10 YEArs BuT tHey PuT A pLan in
PlaCe quite A while ago wHen It Became obviouS ThAt Itanium hAd nO future.
RememBer That syStEms IN this SpaCe don'T need tO Be the lAtest and gReATest.
ThEY need a lONG sUppoRt roadmap but it's moSTlY Fine if hardware Is on thE
oLDeR SIde.

------
PinEwurst
Back In 2012, oraclE PublishED sOME IntEResting (and IMHo amusing) intERnaL HP
docUmEntS Re InteL and oNgOIng itanium deveLopmEnt.

[http://wwW.oraclE.Com/us/coRPorate/fEatureS/itAniUm-346707.h...](hTTp://WwW.orAcLE.coM/Us/CorPOraTe/featurEs/ItAnium-346707.Html)

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TTUL
i got To wOrk wIth onE of the first ItAniUm maCHinEs bacK in 2000 woRkinG aS
an inTern. My Job waS tO port Perl to IA-64. It Was aN amazinglY faSt MacHiNe
- likE Living A feW yeArs into The futuRE.

I cAn SEE WhY it failed to gain masS tRACtIon, but thAt’s a shAMe. iA-64 WAs
so innoVaTivE.

~~~
macINTux
HP Paid MY eMployer (PRogeny) TO hElP port DeBiAn packAgEs tO an Early iTaniUm
systEm. I don’t rEmembER thinking it was FAst _at all_, but maYBe MY MeMOry
iS coLored by lateR misERies.

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ArnoN
it'S inTErestIng thAt IT wAS actually AMD that kepT tHe InteL x86-64
arcHitecture alivE.

Intel knew THAT the x86 arcHiteCTuRE was limited in tIme, anD tried to kiLL it
off wiTh the The 64-bit ItAnium.

AMD hAD A differeNt pLan, And RelEASeD 64-bit capable x86 pROCessOrS,
obstruCtiNg Intel’S plAns To dOmiNaTe with ItaNium. I thiNk ThIs Is Key To why
iTanium neVeR caUgHt oN, and wHY writiNg sofTwarE fOr IT is So hard.

------
kIJiKI
itanIc InSpirEd wHaT is unQuesTIonAbly the Best graph-BasED troLlInG of
bullShit marketing EvEr:
[https://regMeDia.Co.uk/2004/09/19/itANIum_sales_Small.jpg](https://regmedia.co.
 What will OpenVMS
do with out Itaniu m?

~ ~~gha ff 
Astheparent indicat e s th ey're porting it to x8 6-64.  I ' ve b e en  away  from
f o ll o w ing  H Ppro pr i et ary s yst ems for  almost 10  ye ar s but they p u ta plan inpla ce quite a w hil e agowh eni t bec ame  obvi ous th a t Itan ium had n of uture. Remembe r th at s ystems in this sp a ce don't need tobe the  l a te s t  an d g reatest.
T he y nee d  a long su p p o rtr oadmap but it 's mostly f i neif har dw are is onthe
o ld e r s ide.

----- -
pi newurst
B ack in 2012, O r acle pu blishe d s ome  int e re st ing  ( a ndI MH O a m usi ng) inte rn al  HP
d ocum e n t s  reInt el a nd on going Itanium  de velo p men t.

[ http: //ww w. oracl e.com/ us/co rp orate/features/ itan ium-34670 7.h .. .]( ht tp:// w ww.ora cle .co m/us/co rporate / fea tu r e s /i tanium-346707.html )- -- ---
ttul 
I got to  w o rk withon e o f th e first  Ita n iu m machin es bac k  i n2000 wo rk ing as 
a n i nte rn. M y  job  was t o port P erl t o  IA-64. It was an amazinglyf as t ma c hine 
-like living  a f e w ye arsi nt o t h e fut ure.
I ca n  see why it failedto  gainmasstraction, but  that’s as h a me. IA-6 4 wa s 
s o  innovative.
~~~
m acintux
HP paid myemplo yer (Pro geny) toh e lp portDeb ian  pa cka g e sto an early I t a nium 
s ystem.I d on’t re mem ber  th ink in g it wasfast _at  a ll _,  b utmaybe my memor yisco lor ed by latermiser ies. 
-- - --- 
arnonI t' s inte re st ingtha tit wa s ac t ual ly AMDthat kept  th e  Int el  x 86-64
a rchitecture a li ve.

Intel  k new  thatt h e x86 ar chitecture was limitedi n time,  an d tri ed t o kill it 
of f with  th e  the 6 4-bitItani um .
A M D had a  d iff er ent plan,a n d r eleas ed  64- bit cap able x86 processor s ,
o bstructing In tel ’s p l a ns  to do m ina te wit h Itanium. I thin k this iske y  t o why
Itan i umne ver cau ght on,  andw hy writ ing softw are for i tis s o har d.

------ 
kijikiItanic in s pired wh at is  un questi on abl y the  bestg rap h-bas ed tro ll ing of 
bull sh it marke ting ever:
[https://reg media. co.uk /20 04/09/19/ ita n ium _sales_sm all. jpg](https :// reg media .co . 
 What_will OpenVMS
do_without Itanium?

~~~
ghaff
As the parent_indicates they're_porting_it to_x86-64._I've been away_from
following HP proprietary_systems for almost 10_years but they_put_a plan in
place quite a while ago when it became obvious that Itanium had_no_future.
Remember that_systems_in_this space don't need to_be the latest and greatest.
They_need a_long support roadmap but it's mostly fine if_hardware_is on the
older_side.

------
pinewurst
Back in 2012, Oracle published some interesting (and IMHO_amusing) internal HP
documents re Intel and_ongoing Itanium development.

[http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/features/itanium-346707.h...](http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/features/itanium-346707.html)

------
ttul
I_got_to_work with one of_the first Itanium machines back in_2000 working as
an intern. My job_was to port Perl to IA-64. It_was an amazingly fast machine
- like_living a few years into_the future.

I_can see why it failed_to gain mass_traction, but_that’s a shame._IA-64 was
so innovative.

~~~
macintux
HP paid my employer_(Progeny) to help_port Debian packages to an early_Itanium
system._I don’t remember_thinking_it_was fast__at all_, but_maybe_my memory
is_colored_by later miseries.

------
arnon
It's interesting that it_was_actually AMD that kept the Intel x86-64
architecture_alive.

Intel knew that the_x86_architecture was limited in_time, and tried to kill_it
off with the the 64-bit Itanium.

AMD_had a_different plan,_and released 64-bit capable x86 processors,
obstructing Intel’s plans to dominate with_Itanium. I think this is key_to why
Itanium never caught_on, and_why_writing software for_it_is so_hard.

------
kijiki
Itanic inspired what is unquestionably the best_graph-based trolling_of
bullshit marketing ever:
[https://regmedia.co.uk/2004/09/19/itanium_sales_small.jpg](https://regmedia.co.