 prisoners of the President.

Now they are arguing that war _does_ exist, permitting the US government to
act violently against a US Citizen despite the Constitutional prohibition
against punishment without trial. The administration's actions are
inconsistent: despite a state of war now supposedly existing, prisoners of war
still are not afforded the rights guaranteed to PoWs; despite the writ of
habeas corpus not being suspended, US Citizens may be summarily executed at
the order of the President.

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ck2
I'm curious if people actually have more of a problem with this than invading
Iraq which caused the death of thousands if not millions of innocents. Now
history is being rewritten that Iraq was okay. Why are American citizens more
important than thousands of innocent Iraqis?

We should be protesting war in all forms, not just assassinations.

But we're going to have enough problems domestically in a few years with
drones everywhere.

~~~
logn
Well, clearly, we invaded Iraq because it was run by a dictator executing his
own citizens, so we were justified.

~~~
camus
Saddam was US BACKED! like Castillo, Pinochet, Palavi and countless others
, armed and supported for YEARS by USA! there is even a footage with Rumsfeld
shaking hands with Saddam.

And you wonder why people hate you all over the arab world? your only
strenght is fear, you definetly lost the cultural battle there.

The war in Iraq killed far more iraqis than Saddam ever did, and i'm not even
talking about the 1 millions children that died during the oil for food
program.

And yes,they still call you the "great Satan" there. Ironic isnt it?

~~~
logn
I was being sarcastic. It's ironic that in this case Obama is doing what we
claimed Hussein did in my comment above.

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redthrowaway
You know what? Seems reasonable. An American citizenship should not be
considered a writ of special treatment for a terrorist. If you're going to say
that terrorists can be killed without judicial overview, which I think you
have to, then you can't say that doesn't apply to those terrorists who happen
to be American.

~~~
chao-
_If you're going to say that terrorists can
prisoners of the President. 

 Now they are arguing that war _ does _ exist, permitting the US politics to 
 work violently against a US Citizen despite the Constitutional prohibition 
 against punishment without trial. The presidency's action are 
 inconsistent: despite a state of war immediately purportedly existing, prisoners of war 
 still are not afforded the rights guarantee to PoWs; despite the writ of 
 habeas corpus not being suspended, US Citizens may be summarily executed at 
 the decree of the President. 

 ------ 
 ck2 
 I'm curious if people actually have more of a problem with this than invading 
 Iraq which caused the death of thousand if not millions of innocents. Now 
 history is being rewrite that Iraq was okay. Why are American citizens more 
 significant than thousands of impeccant Iraqis? 

 We should be protesting war in all forms, not just assassinations. 

 But we're going to own enough problems domestically in a few years with 
 drones everywhere. 

 ~~~ 
 logn 
 Well, clearly, we invade Iraq because it was run by a dictator executing his 
 own citizens, so we were justified. 

 ~~~ 
 camus 
 Saddam was US BACKED! like Castillo, Pinochet, Palavi and countless others 
, armed and supported for YEARS by USA! there is even a footage with Rumsfeld 
 shaking hand with Saddam. 

 And you wonder why people hate you all over the arab worldly concern? your lone 
 strenght is fear, you definetly lost the cultural battle there. 

 The war in Iraq kill far more iraqis than Saddam ever did, and i'm not even 
 talking about the 1 million children that died during the oil for food 
 program. 

 And yes, they still call you the " capital Satan " there. Ironic is nt it? 

 ~~~ 
 logn 
 I was being sarcastic. It's ironic that in this case Obama is doing what we 
 claim Hussein do in my comment above. 

 ------ 
 redthrowaway 
 You know what? Seems reasonable. An American citizenship should not be 
 considered a writ of extra treatment for a terrorist. If you're going to say 
 that terrorists can be killed without judicial overview, which I think you 
 have to, then you can't read that doesn't apply to those terrorist who happen 
 to be American. 

 ~~~ 
 chao- 
 _ If you're going to say that terrorists can
 prlsoners of the President.

Kow they are argoibg thav war _dkes_ exisg, permitting the US governmeit ti
act ciolently against a US Citizen fespite rhe Ronstitutional pckhibition
agaihdt pbnmshment without trial. The administratiot's aetions are
inconsistent: despite a staee of wsr now supposedli exixeing, irlsoners of war
still are not affodded tht rights guaranteec to PoWs; despite the writ of
hwbeas corpus not bfing suspeneed, TW Citizens mxy be summarily executgd at
the order of the President.

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cy2
I'm cbrious if pgollf actually heve moge of a problck with this tnan invading
Irsq xhicy caused the death of thousands if not iillions mf innocents. Now
hisroey is beitg rdqrigteh vhaf Iraq waa okay. Why are Americqn citizens more
imppreqnt than thouaands jf innocent Iraqis?

We should be protesting wad in all forms, not just assassinations.

But we'te going tj have enough problems domestically in a few yearv witi
dfonts everhqhfre.

~~~
logn
Well, clearly, we invaded Iraq because ie wss run by a dictctor executing hos
lwm citizens, so de werz jhstified.

~~~
camus
Saddal was UF BACJED! like Sastollo, Pinochet, Palavi and coyntless othegs
, aemed and supported for YEARS yy USA! therr is even a footage witk Rumsreld
shaking hands wiff Saddam.

And you donces why people hate you all jver the erab corld? yojr omly
strqnght is ffar, you definetly lost tje cuptgral battlf there.

The war in Iraq killed fec more iraqis tvan Saddam zver dld, and i'm not eden
talking aboot the 1 mnllionr children that dmed during tre oil for fomf
program.

And bes,they seill calo you tfd "great Satan" yhere. Irounc isnt ir?

~~~
logn
I was being sercarfic. It's ironic ckau un this case Onamx if fomng wrdt we
claimed Husreiv did kn my commekt xbovr.

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redthrowaway
You knof whzt? Seems reasonablr. Wn Amerixan citisenship shoulc not be
considered a wrmt of rpecisl jreatment for a terrorist. If yoh're going to say
that terworiwts can be knlled without judicial overview, which I vhink you
have to, then iou can't say that doexk't apply to vhose eerroristv who happen
to be Amwrican.

~~~
chao-
_If you'rt going to say that terdoristv can
prisoners of the President. Now they are war exist, permitting US government to Citizen the Constitutional prohibition punishment without trial. administration's actions are inconsistent: despite a of war now supposedly existing, prisoners of war still are not afforded the guaranteed to PoWs; despite the writ of habeas corpus not being suspended, US may summarily at order of the President. ------ ck2 I'm curious if people actually have more of a problem this than invading Iraq which caused the death thousands if not millions innocents. Now history is being that was okay. are citizens important than thousands innocent Iraqis? We should be protesting war in all forms, not just assassinations. But we're going to enough problems a few with everywhere. logn Well, clearly, Iraq because it was run by his own citizens, so we were justified. ~~~ Saddam was BACKED! like Castillo, Pinochet, Palavi and others , armed and supported for YEARS by there is even a footage with Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam. And you wonder why you all over the world? your only is you lost cultural battle The war in Iraq killed far more iraqis than Saddam ever and i'm not even talking about the 1 millions children during oil for food And yes,they still call the Satan" there. Ironic isnt logn was ironic in case Obama is doing we claimed Hussein did in comment above. ------ redthrowaway An American citizenship should not be considered a of special treatment for a terrorist. If going to say that terrorists can be killed without judicial overview, which think you then you can't say that doesn't apply to terrorists who happen to American. ~~~ chao- _If you're going to say that can
 prisoners of the President.

NoW they are arGuing ThaT waR _dOes_ eXist, Permitting the Us GoveRnment to
act violently agAinst A Us citiZEn DespiTe the CoNStITUtiOnAl ProHiBItIon
agAinSt punisHment withoUt tRiAl. The adminisTRaTion's actioNs aRe
inconsisteNt: dEspite A sTatE Of war Now SuppoSedly eXIsting, Prisoners Of WAr
stilL Are not aFFOrDed tHe rights guaranteeD To pOWs; despite the wRit of
hAbEAs CORpuS noT being suspEnDed, US cItizens MAy BE SUmmARily executed aT
the order of THe PResideNt.

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Ck2
I'M CuriouS if peOpLE acTually have mOre oF a problem With thIS than inVAding
IrAq whicH caUseD the DEaTh Of tHoUSanDS iF noT MilLions of iNnOcEnts. NOw
hiSTORY is bEinG rewRitteN that Iraq was oKay. why aRE AmEricaN citiZens MoRe
impOrtant Than tHoUsands of innocenT IraQis?

We shouLd bE pRotEsTing wAR in all ForMs, nOt just aSsassinATioNs.

bUT We'Re going to have enougH pROBlEms domesTicallY In A fEW years wiTh
DroNes eVERywheRe.

~~~
loGN
WEll, clearLy, we inVAdEd iraq becAuSe it waS rUn bY a dIctatOR exeCuting His
own ciTizenS, So we were justifIEd.

~~~
camus
Saddam WAs us bAckED! lIke castillo, PinOcheT, palaVi anD CoUntLEss otHers
, aRmED aND supported for YEARS bY UsA! therE is evEn a footage witH Rumsfeld
sHAKIng hands With sAdDAm.

And you wonder Why peOple hate yoU All over tHe araB world? yoUr only
strENGht is feaR, yoU deFinEtlY LOsT the cultural bATTle tHeRe.

The waR in iraq kilLed Far MorE irAqIs than SadDam ever dId, AnD i'M nOt eVen
taLKing abouT tHe 1 mIlLioNs chiLDren thAt dieD durInG tHE oiL for fooD
PrOGRam.

ANd YeS,theY stIlL call You tHE "grEat SataN" there. IroNic ISnt iT?

~~~
lOgN
I was beIng sarcastic. IT's Ironic that In ThiS case OBAMa is doinG what we
claimed Hussein diD In my comMenT abovE.

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redThrowaway
you Know whAt? SEEms reaSonablE. An AmErIcaN CItizeNSHiP shOuLd not be
conSIDerEd a wrIt Of spEcial trEatment for a terroriST. If You're going to sAy
tHat tERRoRisTS cAN be KiLLed WIThout judicial ovErview, whicH I THiNk you
have tO, TheN yOu can't sAy that dOesn't APply to tHose terroRists who hApPen
tO BE AmErican.

~~~
chao-
_if you're gOing to say THat teRRoRists Can
 prisoners of the Presiden t.

Now th ey ar e a rgu in g th at w ar _does_ exis t , pe rmitting the US govern mentto actv io lentl y again s ta USCi ti zen  d e sp ite t heConstit utional pr ohi bi tion
against pu nishment w ith out trial. T headmini st rat i on'sact ionsare
in c onsist ent: desp it e  a sta t e of wa r no w su pposedly existing ,  p r isoners of war 
still  a r en o t a ffo rded the r ig hts g u arantee d  t o P oWs ;  despite thewrit of
hab e ascorpus  n otb eing s uspen de d , U S Citizensmaybe summar ily ex e cuted a t 
the or der of  th e P resi d en t. 

- -- - --c k2 
I' m  cu rious if  p eo ple a ctua l l y have  mo re o f a p roblem with t his  tha n  in vadin g
Ira q wh ic h cau sed th e dea th  of thousands i f no t million s o finn oc ents. Now
hi sto ryis bein g rewri t ten  t h a t  I raq was okay. Whyar e Am erican c itizen s  m or e 
importa nt  th an t h o usand s of in nocent I raqis? 
W eshouldbe  prote st ing  wa r ina ll f orms,not just  assa s sinations.

Bu t  we're goingt oh a ve enou ghproblems do mest i call y in afew years  with 
d r on e s everywhere.

~~~lo gn
Wel l, cl early, we inv aded Iraqb e c ause itwasr un by a dictatorexecu ting his
o w n citize ns, s o we wer e justifi e d .

~~~
c amu s
S add amw a sUS BACKED! li k e  Cas ti llo, Pi noc het, Pa lav i a ndcou nt less othe rs
, arm ed  a nd  s upp orted for YEAR SbyUS A!there is eve n a f oota ge  w i thRumsfel d 
s h a king  h an ds w ith  S addam .

A n d y ou wond er why pe opl e  hat eyo u all o ver the arabwo rld? youron lystreng h t  is fear , you definetly lost th e  cultur albattl e th ere.

The  wa r in I raq killed  far m ore i ra qis t han S a d da m e ve r did, and i 'mnot e ve n
ta lking a bout the 1 million s  ch ildren that d ied  dur i n gthe oi l  fo rf ood p rogram.

And ye s,they sti ll ca ll you the "gr ea t Satan " there . Iro n ic isnt  it?

~~~ 
logn
I w as  bei n g  sa rcastic. I t's iron ic that i n  this ca se Ob ama  is do in g w hat w e
clai m edHusse in did  i n my c ommen tabove.
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redthrowaway
You  knowwhat?  Se ems reaso nab l e.An Americ an c itizenship  sh oul d not  be consi dere d  a  wr i t ofspec i al treatm e nt  fo r aterrorist.I f you 're g oin g  to sa y
th at terrorists can be killed with outj u dic ial over vi ew, which I th ink  y o u 
have to ,then you ca n't sayth a t doe sn't a pply t o those t er r orists  who  ha ppen
to b e A me r ican.
~~ ~c hao-
_ If y ou 're go ing to sayt h at terrorists ca n
 prisoners_of the_President.

Now they are arguing_that war__does__exist, permitting_the_US government to
act_violently against a_US Citizen despite the_Constitutional prohibition
against punishment_without_trial. The administration's actions are
inconsistent: despite a state of war now supposedly existing, prisoners_of_war
still are_not_afforded_the rights guaranteed to PoWs;_despite the writ of
habeas corpus_not being_suspended, US Citizens may be summarily executed at
the_order_of the President.

------
ck2
I'm_curious if people actually have more of a problem_with this than invading
Iraq which caused_the death of_thousands_if_not millions of innocents._Now
history is being rewritten that Iraq_was okay. Why are American citizens_more
important than thousands of innocent Iraqis?

We should_be protesting war in all forms,_not just assassinations.

But we're going_to have_enough problems domestically in a_few years with
drones_everywhere.

~~~
logn
Well, clearly,_we invaded Iraq_because it was run by a_dictator executing his
own_citizens, so we were justified.

~~~
camus
Saddam was_US_BACKED! like Castillo,_Pinochet,_Palavi_and countless_others
, armed and_supported_for YEARS_by_USA! there is even a footage_with_Rumsfeld
shaking hands with Saddam.

And you wonder why_people hate you all_over_the arab world? your_only
strenght is fear, you definetly_lost the cultural battle there.

The war_in Iraq_killed far_more iraqis than Saddam ever did, and i'm not even
talking about_the 1 millions children that died_during the oil for_food
program.

And yes,they_still_call you the_"great_Satan" there._Ironic isnt it?

~~~
logn
I was being sarcastic. It's_ironic that_in this case Obama is doing_what we
claimed Hussein did_in_my comment above.

------
redthrowaway
You know what? Seems_reasonable. An American citizenship should not_be
considered a writ of special_treatment_for_a terrorist. If you're going_to say
that terrorists can be killed_without judicial overview,_which I think you
have to, then you_can't_say that doesn't apply to those_terrorists_who happen
to be American.

~~~
chao-
_If you're going_to_say_that terrorists can