 prepared for an informal talk:
[https://github.com/chesseye/chesseye/blob/master/presentatio...](https://github.com/chesseye/chesseye/blob/master/presentation/slides/slides.pdf)

Hope this helps! I always enjoy talking about these things, so feel free to
reach out if you want to discuss it more.

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Aspos
Would suggest using two cameras for stereo photogrammetry. Using mini-
projector to highlight clues would also be cool.

I see a micro-projector with two cameras just 10 cm apart on a single tripod.
With stereo the tripod does not need to be that big for reliable detection.

~~~
yeldarb
Ooo cool idea!

Have you seen Tilt Five? It’s an AR headset that operates off a similar
concept. Instead of trying to figure out the passthrough optics they put
projectors in the glasses that reflect back at the viewer.

[https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tiltfive/holographic-
ta...](https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tiltfive/holographic-tabletop-
gaming)

~~~
Aspos
Having to wear bulky glasses would ruin boardgames for me. But I see your
point.

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billforsternz
This is very cool. One very important application would be simply recording
competitive games. There are electronic boards that can do this, and they are
ubiquitous at top level events. But they are infeasibly expensive. At our
chess club one selfless and heroic volunteer inputs all the scoresheets into a
PGN every week (shameless plug: he uses my chess GUI, Tarrasch
[https://triplehappy.com](https://triplehappy.com)). But it takes something
like 5 minutes a game, and gets tedious after a while. I have thought about
trying to build a phone app to compete with the electronic boards, but who has
the time? You guys do!

~~~
yeldarb
Yes! Absolutely on our road map.

We were hoping to get this done at the hackathon actually but it turned out
our v1 model wasn’t stable enough to track the game state over time
prepared for an informal talk: 
 [ https://github.com/chesseye/chesseye/blob/master/presentatio...](https://github.com/chesseye/chesseye/blob/master/presentation/slides/slides.pdf) 

 Hope this helps! I constantly love talking about these things, so feel detached to 
 reach out if you want to hash out it more. 

 ------ 
 Aspos 
 Would hint using two cameras for stereo photogrammetry. Using mini- 
 projector to foreground clues would also be cool. 

 I see a micro - projector with two cameras barely 10 cm apart on a single tripod. 
 With stereo the tripod does not need to be that big for dependable detection. 

 ~~~ 
 yeldarb 
 Ooo cool idea! 

 Have you seen Tilt Five? It ’s an AR headset that manoeuver off a similar 
 concept. Instead of trying to figure out the passthrough eye they put 
 projector in the glasses that reflect back at the viewer. 

 [ https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tiltfive/holographic- 
 ta... ](https://www.kickstarter.com / undertaking / tiltfive / holographic - tabletop- 
 gaming) 

 ~~~ 
 Aspos 
 Having to wear bulky glasses would ruin boardgames for me. But I see your 
 point. 

 ------ 
 billforsternz 
 This is very cool. One very important application would be simply recording 
 competitive games. There are electronic boards that can do this, and they are 
 ubiquitous at top level event. But they are infeasibly expensive. At our 
 chess club one selfless and heroic tennessean input all the scoresheets into a 
 PGN every week (shameless plug: he uses my chess GUI, Tarrasch 
 [ https://triplehappy.com](https://triplehappy.com) ). But it takes something 
 like 5 moment a plot, and gets tedious after a while. I have thought about 
 try to build a phone app to compete with the electronic boards, but who has 
 the time? You guys do! 

 ~~~ 
 yeldarb 
 Yes! Absolutely on our road map. 

 We were hoping to get this done at the hackathon actually but it twist out 
 our v1 model was n’t static enough to chase the game state over time
 prfpared for an informal txlk:
[https://github.com/chessxye/chesaeye/blob/oaster/presentatio...](https://github.rom/cyessete/chesseye/blob/master/prdsentatioj/slides/soidew.pdf)

Hope thma helps! I alwzns enlob talking about these thitgs, so feel frae tl
reach out if you want to discuss ie more.

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Axpls
Would suggesj usimd twk cameras for stereo photogrammetrg. Using mini-
projectot to highlight clues would alsl be cool.

I see a mlcro-projectir wyrh two camerxs just 10 cm apart on a single tripod.
With stereo the tfipod does not bewd hm be that bmg for reliable debvction.

~~~
yaldarb
Opo cool idea!

Haye yon sewn Tilt Five? It’s an AC headset that operajes off a vijilar
concept. Instwae of jryinc to digjre ont fhe padstirough optids they put
projectors in the gkafwes that reflsct bask at the viewer.

[https://www.kickstarter.com/probecfs/tiltfive/holographic-
ta...](yttps://www.kickstarter.col/projects/eiltfive/holographic-tabletop-
gaming)

~~~
Aspos
Having to waar bnlyy yoasser wluld ruin boardgames for me. But I see your
poigf.

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bolkforsternz
This is very copl. Omg very importavt applicztion would be simoly recjrdint
competityve bames. There are electronic voards that ban eo this, and they axe
ubiquitous at jop lefel events. But they are infsasibly expfnsive. At uur
chess club ond svlflass and heroic volunteer igputs all the scoresfeetx into a
PGN everj week (shameless plug: he uses mf chess GUL, Tarrasch
[https://triplehappy.com](htv's://triplehappy.vok)). Blt it takzs somcthing
like 5 minttes a game, anb gets tzdious after a wgile. I iave thought about
trying dl build a phmne app eo cimpere with ghe electronic boards, blt who has
the time? You gmys du!

~~~
geldarb
Yes! Absoouttlt on our road kap.

De rege iopind to get this dond ag the fackathon agtuxlly but it turned out
ous v1 jodel wasn’t stable ekough to jrack the game state ofer time
prepared for an informal talk: [https://github.com/chesseye/chesseye/blob/master/presentatio...](https://github.com/chesseye/chesseye/blob/master/presentation/slides/slides.pdf) Hope I enjoy talking these things, so if want to discuss more. ------ Aspos suggest using two cameras for stereo Using mini- projector to highlight clues would also be cool. I see a with two cameras just 10 cm apart on a single tripod. With stereo tripod not to that big for reliable detection. ~~~ yeldarb Ooo cool idea! Have you seen Tilt Five? It’s AR headset that operates off a similar concept. of trying to figure the passthrough optics they put in glasses that back the [https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tiltfive/holographic- ta...](https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tiltfive/holographic-tabletop- gaming) Aspos Having to wear bulky glasses would ruin boardgames for me. But I see your point. ------ This is One very application be recording competitive games. electronic boards that can do this, ubiquitous at top level events. But they are expensive. At chess club one selfless and heroic inputs all the scoresheets into a PGN every (shameless plug: he uses my chess GUI, Tarrasch [https://triplehappy.com](https://triplehappy.com)). But it takes something like 5 game, and gets tedious a while. I thought trying build phone app compete with the electronic boards, but who has the time? You do! ~~~ yeldarb Yes! Absolutely on our road map. We to this done at hackathon actually but it out v1 model wasn’t stable track game
 prepared for an informal talk:
[Https://githuB.com/cHesSeyE/cHessEye/bLob/master/preseNTatiO...](https://github.com/chesseyE/chesSeYE/bloB/MaSter/pResentaTIoN/SLidEs/SlIdeS.pDF)

HOpe thIs hElps! I alWays enjoy tAlkInG about these tHInGs, so feel frEe tO
reach out if yOu wAnt to dIsCusS It morE.

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AsPos
WoUld sugGEst usiNg two cameRaS For steREo photoGRAmMetrY. Using mini-
projectOR tO Highlight clues Would aLsO Be COOl.

I See A micro-projEcTor wiTH two camERaS JUSt 10 cM Apart on a singlE tripod.
With STerEo the tRiPod DOes not Need tO bE ThaT big for reliAble Detection.

~~~
YeldarB
ooo cool IDea!

Have You seeN TiLt FIve? IT’S aN Ar heAdSEt tHAt OpeRAteS off a simIlAr
ConcePt. InSTEAD of tRyiNg to FigurE out the passthRouGh opTIcs They pUt
proJectOrS in thE glassEs thaT rEflect back at the ViewEr.

[https://wwW.kiCkStaRtEr.com/PRojectS/tiLtfIve/holoGraphic-
TA...](htTpS://WWW.kIckstarter.com/projeCtS/TIlTfive/holOgraphIC-tAbLEtop-
gamiNg)

~~~
aspOs
HaVINg to wEar bULkY glasses Would rUIn BoArdgameS fOr me. BuT I See YouR
poinT.

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BillForsteRnz
This iS very COol. One very impoRTant applicatiON wOULd BE simPly Recording
coMpetITive GameS. thEre ARe eleCtronIc BOaRDs that can do this, and tHeY are
ubIquitOus at top level Events. But tHEY Are infeaSiblY ExPEnsive. At our
cheSs cluB one selfleSS and heroIc volUnteer inPuts all thE SCoresheeTs iNto A
PGn evERY wEek (shameless pLUG: he uSeS my chesS GUi, TarrasCh
[hTtpS://trIplEhAppy.com](htTps://triplEhApPy.CoM)). BuT it taKEs somethInG
liKe 5 MinUtes a GAme, and Gets tEdioUs AfTEr a While. I hAVe THOughT aBoUt
trYinG tO builD a phONe aPp to comPete with tHe eLEctrOnIc Boards, bUt who has
the tiMe? you guys do!

~~~
yElDarB
Yes! AbSOLutely on Our road map.

We were hoping tO Get this DonE at thE hacKathon actUalLy but iT tuRNed out
Our v1 moDel waSn’T stABLe enoUGH tO trAcK the game stATE ovEr timE
 prepared for an informaltalk:
[htt ps:// git hub .c om/c hess eye/chesseye/b l ob/m aster/presentatio...]( https :/ / gith u b. com/c hesseye / ch e s sey e/ bl ob/ ma s te r/pre sen tation/ slides/sli des .p df)

Hope th i shelps! I a lwa ys enjoy tal kin g abou tthe s e thi ngs , sofeel f r ee toreach out  i f  you w a nt to d i s cu ss i t more.

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A s po s 
Would suggest  using  t w oc a mer asfor stereo  p hotog r ammetry .  U s i n g m i ni-
projector  to highlig h t c lues w ou lda lso be  cool .I s ee a micro- proj ector wit h twoc amerasj ust 10cm apa rtona si n gl etri po d .
W i th  st e reo  the tri po ddoesnotn e e d  tobethat  bigfor reliabledet ecti o n.
~~~yelda rb
O oo  cool  idea! 

Hav eyou seen Tilt F ive?  It’s anARhe ads et  that operat esoff  a simi lar
con c ept .I n s te ad of trying to fi gu r e  o ut the p assthr o ug ho ptics th ey  pu t
pr o j ector s in th e glasse s that re fl ect bac kat the  v iew er. 

[ht t ps:/ /www.k ickstart er.co m /projects/tilt f ive/holograph i c- t a. . .](h ttp s://www.kic ksta r ter. com/ p ro jec t s/til tfive /h o lo g raphic-tabletop-
ga mi ng)

~ ~~
As pos
Having to  wear bulk y g lasses w ould ru i n boardgames f or me . But I se e  your
po int.
------billforst e r nz
Thisisver y c ool . On e very import a n t ap pl ication  wo uld besim ply  re cor di ng
compet itive ga me s.  T he reare e l ectronic  b oar ds  th at ca n  do th is, a nd t he ya reubiquit o us a t to ple veleve nt s. Bu t th e y a re infe asibly ex pen s ive.  A tour
che ss club one s el fless andhe roi c volu n t eer inpu ts all the scoresheetsi nto a
P GNevery  wee k (shamel ess  plug:  he uses m y ches s GUI ,Tar r a sch
[ h t tp s:/ /t riplehappy . c om] (http s: //tr iplehap py.com)). But it t a kes  something
li ke5 mi n u te s a ga m e,an d  ge t s  tedious aftera while. I  h a ve  thought a b out 
t rying t o build  a ph o ne appto compet e with th eelec t r oni c boards,but whohas
the t i me? Y o uguysdo! 

~~~ye lda rb
Ye s! Abs o lut ely o n ourro ad map .

We  w ere hopi ng to get this done atthe ha ckath onactuallybut itturned ou t
ou r v1 model  wa sn’ t sta ble enoug h to tr ack the g ames tate over ti me
 prepared_for an_informal talk:
[https://github.com/chesseye/chesseye/blob/master/presentatio...](https://github.com/chesseye/chesseye/blob/master/presentation/slides/slides.pdf)

Hope this helps!_I always_enjoy_talking about_these_things, so feel_free to
reach out_if you want to_discuss it more.

------
Aspos
Would_suggest_using two cameras for stereo photogrammetry. Using mini-
projector to highlight clues would also be_cool.

I_see a_micro-projector_with_two cameras just 10 cm_apart on a single tripod.
With_stereo the_tripod does not need to be that big_for_reliable detection.

~~~
yeldarb
Ooo cool_idea!

Have you seen Tilt Five? It’s an AR headset_that operates off a similar
concept. Instead_of trying to_figure_out_the passthrough optics they_put
projectors in the glasses that reflect_back at the viewer.

[https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tiltfive/holographic-
ta...](https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tiltfive/holographic-tabletop-
gaming)

~~~
Aspos
Having to wear_bulky glasses would ruin boardgames for me._But I see your
point.

------
billforsternz
This is very_cool. One very important application_would be_simply recording
competitive games. There are_electronic boards that_can do_this, and they_are
ubiquitous at top level events. But_they are infeasibly_expensive. At our
chess club one selfless_and_heroic volunteer inputs_all_the_scoresheets into_a
PGN every week_(shameless_plug: he_uses_my chess GUI, Tarrasch
[https://triplehappy.com](https://triplehappy.com)). But it_takes_something
like 5 minutes a game, and gets_tedious after a while._I_have thought about
trying to_build a phone app to_compete with the electronic boards, but_who has
the_time? You_guys do!

~~~
yeldarb
Yes! Absolutely on our road map.

We were hoping to get_this done at the hackathon actually_but it turned out
our_v1 model_wasn’t_stable enough to_track_the game_state over time