 and do exactly what you described, yet don't have
wide adoption at all.

~~~
wiredfool
They've been around forever, and I dismissed them back in the internet dark
ages because they only had crappy windows software and their obnoxious
intrusive ads seemed to be all about "security" cameras pointing at scantily
clad women.

/me realizes that I've just dated myself here.

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stephengillie
Interesting -- this is basically the merger of an Arduino Leonardo and a
pocket router. The flavor of Linux in use is a spinoff from OpenWRT, a popular
home router OS. The chip that runs on is the Atheros AR9331. Since OpenWRT
supports other languages, you can now program this device in Python.

AR9331 pinout: <http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/tp-link/tl-wr703n/ar9331_pinout>

~~~
zdw
Agreed. The Atheros chips tend to be much better supported - you actually get
non-binary blob wireless drivers, which is a big problem with Broadcom-based
devices like the venerable Linksys WRT54G and similar.

OpenWRT is quite nice, and ships with a Lua based web interface, which is
ideal for a low memory/CPU device like a router.

------
diydsp
Embedded hardware developer/DSP programmer here: An interesting turn in the
life of the Arduino turned out to be that people used it not so much as an
embedded processor, but as a peripheral extension of their laptops and
desktops.

Laptops and desktops (with some exceptions...) simply don't have the
peripherals (such as DACs, PWM, analog ins) which people need to deal with
sensors and robotics. Therefore, Arduino's micro-peripherals were a welcome
addition to the world.

Combining the workstation core (CPU) and network into one place gives the
Arduino a greater level of autonomy than it used to have. It can now do much
more without requiring that it's attached (tethered or "tumored") to a
desktop.

Whether the price and features make it worthwhile is impossible to predict. We
are in an explosion
and do exactly what you described, yet don't get 
 broad adoption at all. 

 ~~~ 
 wiredfool 
 They've been around constantly, and I dismissed them back in the internet dark 
 long time because they entirely had icky window software and their obnoxious 
 intrusive ad seemed to be all about " security " cameras point at scantily 
 clad women. 

 /me realizes that I've just dated myself here. 

 ------ 
 stephengillie 
 Interesting -- this is basically the amalgamation of an Arduino Leonardo and a 
 pocket router. The flavor of Linux in use is a spinoff from OpenWRT, a democratic 
 home router OS. The chip that range on is the Atheros AR9331. Since OpenWRT 
 support other languages, you can now program this device in Python. 

 AR9331 pinout: < http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/tp-link/tl-wr703n/ar9331_pinout > 

 ~~~ 
 zdw 
 Agreed. The Atheros chips tend to be much well supported - you actually get 
 non - binary blob wireless drivers, which is a big trouble with Broadcom - establish 
 devices like the venerable Linksys WRT54 G and similar. 

 OpenWRT is quite nice, and ships with a Lua based web interface, which is 
 ideal for a low memory / CPU device like a router. 

 ------ 
 diydsp 
 implant hardware developer / DSP programmer here: An interesting turn in the 
 life of the Arduino call on out to be that citizenry used it not so much as an 
 implant processor, but as a peripheral extension of their laptops and 
 desktops. 

 laptop and desktops (with some exceptions ...) simply don't have the 
 peripherals (such as DACs, PWM, analog ins) which people need to deal with 
 sensors and robotics. Therefore, Arduino's micro - peripheral were a welcome 
 addition to the worldly concern. 

 blend the workstation core (CPU) and network into one place gives the 
 Arduino a capital level of autonomy than it used to have. It can now do much 
 more without requiring that it's attached (tethered or " tumored ") to a 
 desktop. 

 Whether the monetary value and features make it worthwhile is impossible to predict. We 
 are in an explosion
 anf do exactly what you dercribed, yet don'j yave
wive adopfion at xll.

~~~
wiredfool
They've been arouid firevee, and I dismissed them back in nhe interbet vark
ages because they only had grappv xindows softwarg and their mbnoxious
intruvixe ads seemed to be all about "securitr" camerss pointing at ssantplr
clas women.

/me realizes that I've just dzted myvelf here.

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stepnengillie
Interesting -- this is hasically the mergfr of an Areuinj Leonardo ana a
pocket gmuter. The rlavor of Linux in use is a spivoff yrom OpenWRJ, z ompular
home couter OS. The chip that ruts on ix the Atheros SR9331. Vinxe OpenWRT
supports otier languages, you cag now procrcm this device in Pytyob.

AR9331 phnoud: <htgp://wiyi.okenxrt.krg/toh/hp-lmnk/tl-wr703n/ar9331_pjnout>

~~~
zdw
Agrwed. The Atheros chiks evmd to be mucg bettqr supported - you actually get
non-binary bnob wireless drivers, which is a big problem witj Broadcoi-based
devices like the venerable Linksys WRT54G and simimxr.

OkekRFR ls quite nice, and ships with a Lua based web yhttrfsce, which is
idcal for a low memoty/FPI device like x routzd.

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djydsp
Embedded hardaare dedelopwr/DSP prodramker here: An interesting turb in the
life if the Arduino turued out to bz that peopke used it not so much cs an
ejbedded professor, buf as a peripheral exnenshon of their laptops and
defktops.

Lapvops cnd deskgops (with fome excephions...) simply don't have tje
pernpherdls (such ad DACs, PWM, analog ins) which peo'ke need to dgal winh
sensors and vobotics. Therefjre, Arduino's mncro-peri'heralr were a wvlcome
addmtion to the world.

Combinith the workstetion corq (CPY) ane netwofy into one plave gives nht
Arduino a greater level of eutovkmy than it useb uo have. It can npw ao iubh
mprq without reqgirivg gnat ig's attached (gethrred or "tumored") to a
geskfop.

Whether the prive and feajures makq it worthwhike is impossible tl previct. Wx
are im ag explosion
and do exactly what you described, yet wide at all. wiredfool They've been them in the internet ages because they had crappy windows software and their intrusive ads seemed to be all about "security" cameras pointing at scantily clad /me realizes that I've just dated myself here. ------ stephengillie Interesting -- this basically merger an Leonardo and a pocket router. The flavor of Linux in use is a spinoff from OpenWRT, popular home router OS. The chip that runs is the Atheros AR9331. OpenWRT supports other languages, you now this device Python. pinout: ~~~ zdw Agreed. Atheros chips tend to be much better supported - you actually get non-binary blob wireless drivers, which a big Broadcom-based devices the Linksys and similar. OpenWRT nice, and ships with a Lua which is ideal for a low memory/CPU device a router. diydsp Embedded hardware developer/DSP programmer here: interesting turn in the life of the Arduino out to be that people used it not so much as an embedded processor, but peripheral extension of their and desktops. Laptops desktops some simply have the (such as DACs, PWM, analog ins) which people need to deal sensors and robotics. Therefore, Arduino's micro-peripherals were a welcome addition world. the workstation core and network into one gives Arduino a greater level than used can do more without requiring that attached (tethered or "tumored") to desktop. Whether the price is impossible to predict. We are in an
 and do exactly what you descriBed, yet don't Have
wIde AdoPtIon aT all.

~~~
Wiredfool
They'vE Been Around forever, and I dismiSsed tHeM Back IN tHe intErnet daRK
aGES beCaUsE thEy ONlY had cRapPy windoWs software And ThEir obnoxious
INtRusive ads sEemEd to be all aboUt "sEcuritY" cAmeRAs poiNtiNg at sCantilY
Clad woMen.

/me realIzES that I'VE just daTED mYselF here.

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stephengilliE
inTEresting -- this is BasicaLlY ThE MErgEr oF an Arduino leOnardO And a
pocKEt ROUTer. tHe flavor of LinUx in use is a sPInoFf from opEnWrt, a popuLar
hoMe ROutEr OS. The chip That Runs on is tHe AtheROs AR9331. SinCE OpenWRt
suppoRts OthEr laNGuAgEs, yOu CAn nOW pRogRAm tHis devicE iN PYthon.

aR9331 piNOUT: <Http://WikI.opeNwrt.oRg/toh/tp-link/tl-Wr703n/Ar9331_piNOut>

~~~
Zdw
AgReed. THe AtHeRos chIps tenD to be MuCh better supportEd - yoU actually Get
NoN-biNaRy bloB WireleSs dRivErs, whicH is a big PRobLeM WITh broadcom-based
devicEs LIKe The venerAble LiNKsYs wrT54G and siMiLar.

openwrt is quIte nICe, And ships With a LUA bAsEd web inTeRface, wHiCh iS
idEal foR A low Memory/cPU devicE like A Router.

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diydsp
EmBEdded hardware DEvELOpER/DSP ProGrammer here: an inTEresTing TUrN in THe
lifE of thE ARDuINo turned out to be that PeOple usEd it nOt so much as an
eMbedded proCESSor, but as A perIPhERal extension of Their Laptops and
DEsktops.

LAptopS and deskTops (with sOME exceptiOns...) SimPly Don'T HAvE the
peripheraLS (Such As dACs, PWM, AnaLog ins) wHicH peOplE neEd To deal witH
sensors AnD rObOtIcs. thereFOre, ArduiNo'S miCrO-peRipheRAls werE a welCome
AdDiTIon To the woRLd.

cOMbinInG tHe woRksTaTion cOre (Cpu) anD networK into one pLacE GiveS tHe
arduino A greater level Of Autonomy thAn It uSed to hAVE. It can noW do much
more without requiRIng that It's AttacHed (tEthered or "TumOred") to A
deSKtop.

WhEther tHe priCe And FEAtureS MAkE it WoRthwhile is IMPosSible To PredIct. We
arE in an explosion
 and do exactly what you d escribed,yet d on' t h av e
wi de a doption at all . 

~~ ~
wiredfool
They've be en ar ou n d fo r ev er, a nd I di s mi s s edth em  ba ck in  theint ernet d ark
ages b eca us e they onlyh ad  crappy wi ndo ws softwareand  their  o bno x iousint rusiv e adss eemedto be all  a b out "s e curity" c am eras  pointing at scan t il y 
clad women.
/me re al i ze s tha t I 've just d at ed my s elf her e .- - --- - 
stephengilli e
Interesti n g - - this  i s b a sicall y the  m e rge r of an Ard uino  Leonardo  and a pocketr outer.The fl avo r o f Li n ux  i n u se isa  s pin o fffrom Ope nW RT , a p opul a r h omerou terOS. T he chip thatrun s on isthe A thero s AR 93 31. S ince O penWR Tsupports otherlang uages, yo u c an  no wprogr a m this  de vic e in Py thon.
A R93 31 p i no ut: <http://wiki.o pe n w rt .org/toh /tp-li n k/ tl - wr703n/a r9 331 _pin o u t>

~ ~~
z d wAgreed.The At h er os  chipste nd tobe  mu chbette r  sup ported  - you a ctual l y get
non-bina r y blob wirele s sd r iv e rs,whi ch is a big  pro b lemwith Br oad c om-ba sed
d ev i ce s  like the venerable  L inksys  WRT5 4G and simila r.

OpenWR T i s quitenice ,  a n d ships with a  Luabased webi nterface , whi ch is
id eal for a l ow memor y/C PUdev ice l ik e a router.
- - ---- 
d iydsp
E mbe dded ha rdw are  de vel op er/DSP pr ogrammer  h er e:  A n i ntere s ting tur ninth e
l ife o f  the A rduin o tu rn ed out  to bet ha t peop le  u seditno t somuch asan
embe dded proc ess o r, b ut  a s a per ipheral exten si on of thei rlap tops a n d 
desktop s.

Laptops and desktop s  (withsom e exc epti ons...) s imp ly don 'th ave th e
peri phera ls  (s u c h asD A Cs , P WM , analog i n s ) w hichpe ople  need t o deal with
sensor s  an d robotics. T her efor e ,  A rdu i no ' s m ic r o-p e r ipherals were a  welcome
a dd i ti on to thew orl d. 

Combi ning th e wor k station  core (CP U) and ne tw orki n toone placegives th e
Arduino a gre a te r lev elof aut on omy  than  it us e d t o hav e. Itca n nowdo mu ch 
more wi thout requiring that it 's att ached  (t ethered o r " t umo red") toa
de sktop.

Wh eth erthe p ric e  andfeat u re s m a ke it  wor t hwhile is im pos s i bl e to predic t . Weare i n a n  explo sion 
 and_do exactly_what you described, yet_don't have
wide_adoption_at all.

~~~
wiredfool
They've_been_around forever, and_I dismissed them_back in the internet_dark
ages because they_only_had crappy windows software and their obnoxious
intrusive ads seemed to be all about "security"_cameras_pointing at_scantily
clad_women.

/me_realizes that I've just dated_myself here.

------
stephengillie
Interesting -- this is_basically the_merger of an Arduino Leonardo and a
pocket router._The_flavor of Linux_in use is a spinoff from OpenWRT, a popular
home_router OS. The chip that runs_on is the_Atheros_AR9331._Since OpenWRT
supports other languages,_you can now program this device_in Python.

AR9331 pinout: <http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/tp-link/tl-wr703n/ar9331_pinout>

~~~
zdw
Agreed. The Atheros_chips tend to be much better supported_- you actually get
non-binary blob wireless_drivers, which is a big_problem with_Broadcom-based
devices like the venerable Linksys_WRT54G and similar.

OpenWRT_is quite_nice, and ships_with a Lua based web interface,_which is
ideal for_a low memory/CPU device like a_router.

------
diydsp
Embedded_hardware developer/DSP programmer_here:_An_interesting turn_in the
life of_the_Arduino turned_out_to be that people used it_not_so much as an
embedded processor, but as_a peripheral extension of_their_laptops and
desktops.

Laptops and desktops_(with some exceptions...) simply don't_have the
peripherals (such as DACs, PWM,_analog ins)_which people_need to deal with
sensors and robotics. Therefore, Arduino's micro-peripherals were a_welcome
addition to the world.

Combining the workstation_core (CPU) and network_into one_place_gives the
Arduino a_greater_level of_autonomy than it used to have. It_can now_do much
more without requiring that it's_attached (tethered or "tumored")_to_a
desktop.

Whether the price and features make_it worthwhile is impossible to predict._We
are in an explosion