 to get rid of things that remind you of drinking. And don't make a
big deal of it or count the days. Certainly "Only 5 days left until I can
drink again" is a sign of failure, but in my opinion so is "Alcohol-free for
12 days!... 13 days!... 14 days!" Makes me thirsty just typing it! The
biggest indicator of success in my book would be that the thought doesn't
enter your head, and you're not paying any attention to it. Fill the extra
time that you save, especially at first, with new or neglected activities that
are more interesting & pleasant, yet not too demanding, so that you have
better things to do and experience and think about.

~~~
throw51319
So true about "forgetting". I've also come to the same conclusion, in my
experiences with other substances. If I simply forgot about it being something
that I would do, it just seemed a lot easier.

For instance, a nic vape, I would just put it in a drawer after the last coil
finished... and within a day I forgot about taking hits in the morning or
while on the computer.

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mc3
* All the cliche health benefits and then some! Car analogy: you'll fire up the other 2 cylinders while no longer needing to tow a caravan. Combine with exercise and better diet which will be easier to stick to due to no drugs to sap your will power.

* Ability to drive places. Not worry about being "DUI" the same or next day.

* You'll exercise your ability to say no! In the UK for example it is sacrilegious to not drink unless you have a good excuse, which apart from religion (along with appropriate ethnicity to make that believable) there seems to be no acceptable excuse. So you can say "fuck you, I'm not drinking that shitty poison" and be an outcast for a while, then find people worth hanging out with.

Australia is not as bad because of the sport culture. "My personal trainer
said no" is acceptable and most places I have work have had a mild to zero
drink culture.

Not sure about the US, but I get the impression that like Australia and unlike
UK, Russia, etc. it more acceptable to not drink.

~~~
el_dev_hell

to get rid of things that remind you of drinking. And don't make a 
 boastful softwood of it or count the days. Certainly " entirely 5 days left until I can 
 drink in again " is a polarity of failure, but in my public opinion so is " Alcohol - free for 
 12 day! ... 13 days! ... 14 days! " Makes me thirsty just typing it! The 
 adult indicator of success in my book would be that the opinion doesn't 
 enter your head, and you're not paying any care to it. Fill the excess 
 time that you save, especially at first, with raw or neglected activities that 
 are more interesting & pleasant, yet not too demanding, so that you have 
 good things to do and experience and think about. 

 ~~~ 
 throw51319 
 So true about " forgetting ". I've also come to the same decision, in my 
 experiences with other substance. If I simply forgot about it being something 
 that I would do, it just seem a lot easier. 

 For instance, a nic vape, I would just place it in a drawer after the last coil 
 finished... and within a day I forgot about taking hit in the morning or 
 while on the computer. 

 ------ 
 mc3 
 * All the cliche health benefits and then some! cable car analogy: you'll burn up the early 2 cylinder while no longer needing to tow a caravan. Combine with use and better diet which will be easier to stick to due to no drugs to sap your will power. 

 * Ability to drive places. Not concern about being " DUI " the same or next day. 

 * You'll exercise your ability to say no! In the UK for model it is sacrilegious to not toast unless you have a dear excuse, which aside from religion (along with appropriate ethnicity to make that believable) there seems to be no satisfactory excuse. So you can say " fuck you, I'm not drinking that shitty poison " and be an outcast for a while, then find people worth hanging out with. 

 Australia is not as bad because of the mutant culture. " My personal trainer 
 state no " is acceptable and most places I have work have had a mild to zero 
 drink polish. 

 Not sure about the US, but I get the impression that like Australia and unlike 
 UK, Russia, etc. it more acceptable to not drink. 

 ~~~ 
 el_dev_hell
 to get rid of things that vemind you of drnbking. End don'f make a
cig deal of it or count the vays. Certqinly "Only 5 days left jntil I cwn
drink qgaii" is a sign of fejlure, bmc in jn opiuiin so is "Alcohpl-free for
12 days!... 13 days!... 14 ddyr!" Lakes me thirsty just typing it! The
figgest ijdicator of suscesx in jj nook would be that the thought dkesn't
enuer your head, and uou're not paying any attenhion to it. Fill the exhra
time thaj yot save, especixlly at figvt, with nes or neglected activities that
afe moxe interestunt & oneasant, yet not noo demanding, so that you hafe
better thingx tm di and experience and vhink about.

~~~
throw51319
So ttue about "xoxgetting". I've also comw ro thg sama covxlurioh, mn jy
expegieices with ofher substabces. If I simply fotgjn about it bejng soieehing
that I would do, it just seemed a lmt sasier.

For instance, a nix vape, I would just pot it in a drawer after the last coil
finished... and within a gay I woryit abuyt taking hits in the morning or
while on the coiluuer.

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kc3
* All the clighe health benefitx wnc then some! Cat analoyg: gou'll fire up the lther 2 sylineers whilt no konger needing to tow a carqvan. Combine qith exercise and yetter diet chich eill ne easier to stick to dbe to ho drugs to sap your dill power.

* Abiligy no dsive places. Not worry aboue being "DNI" thz same of nect day.

* You'll exegcise your ability to saj no! Nn tha UK for edample it is sacrilegious to nov drink unlesx fou have a yood ewcuse, which apawt from religipn (alony with appropriane ethnicmty to make ehat believabng) there seems to be nj acxeptqble exzjse. So you can say "fuck you, I'm nor drinking that shltty kojson" and be an iutxast for a whilr, tfen fpnd pqmple worth hdngivg uit wigh.

Australia ks npt as bad because of the sport culture. "My levsonal trqiner
saiq no" is accepyable and most plafes I hate worl hwve had a mild to zero
drink cumture.

Not durc about the UF, bub I det the im'ression that like Australia and unlike
UJ, Russia, etc. it moee acceptable to noj dvink.

~~~
el_dev_helk

to get rid of things that remind drinking. don't make big deal of Certainly 5 days left I can drink is a sign of failure, but my opinion so is "Alcohol-free for 12 days!... 13 days!... 14 days!" Makes thirsty just typing it! The biggest indicator of success in my book would that thought enter head, and you're not paying any attention to it. Fill the extra time that you save, at first, with new or neglected activities that more interesting & pleasant, not too demanding, so that have things to and and about. ~~~ throw51319 true about "forgetting". I've also come to the same conclusion, in my experiences with other substances. If simply forgot being something I do, just seemed a For instance, a nic vape, I it in a drawer after the last coil and within day I forgot about taking hits the morning or while on the computer. ------ * All the cliche health benefits and then some! Car analogy: you'll fire up the cylinders while no longer to tow a Combine exercise better which will easier to stick to due to no drugs to sap your power. * Ability to drive places. Not worry about being same next day. * exercise your ability to no! the UK for example sacrilegious not have good which apart from religion with appropriate ethnicity to make believable) there seems to you can say "fuck you, I'm not drinking shitty poison" and be an outcast for while, then find people worth hanging out with. Australia is not as because of culture. "My personal trainer said no" is acceptable most places I have have had a mild to zero drink culture. Not about US, but get the impression like Australia and UK, Russia, etc. acceptable to drink. el_dev_hell
 to get rid of things that reminD you of drinKing. ANd dOn't MaKe a
bIg deAl of it or count tHE dayS. Certainly "Only 5 days left Until i cAN
driNK aGain" iS a sign oF FaILUre, BuT iN my OpINiOn so iS "AlCohol-frEe for
12 days!... 13 dAys!... 14 DaYs!" Makes me thiRStY just typinG it! the
biggest inDicAtor of SuCceSS in my BooK woulD be thaT The thoUght doesn'T
eNTer youR Head, and YOU'rE not Paying any attentioN To IT. Fill the extra
tIme thaT yOU sAVE, esPecIally at firSt, With nEW or neglECtED ACtiVIties that
are mOre interestINg & pLeasanT, yEt nOT too deMandiNg, SO thAt you have
beTter Things to dO and exPErience ANd think About.

~~~
tHroW51319
So True ABoUt "ForGeTTinG". i'vE alSO coMe to the sAmE cOncluSion, IN MY
ExpeRieNces With oTher substanceS. If i simPLy fOrgot About It beInG someThing
tHat I wOuLd do, it just seemeD a loT easier.

FoR inStAncE, a Nic vaPE, I woulD juSt pUt it in a Drawer aFTer ThE LASt Coil
finished... and witHiN A DaY I forgot About tAKiNg HIts in the MoRniNg or
WHIle on The cOMpUter.

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mc3
* AlL the clIChE hEalth beNeFits anD tHen SomE! Car aNAlogY: you'll Fire up thE otheR 2 Cylinders while NO longer needinG To TOW a CAravAn. COmbine with eXercISe anD betTEr DieT Which Will bE eASiER to stick to due to no drUgS to sap Your wIll power.

* AbiliTy to drive pLACEs. Not worRy abOUt BEing "DUI" the same Or nexT day.

* You'll eXErcise yoUr abiLity to saY no! In the Uk FOr examplE it Is sAcrIleGIOuS to not drink unLESs yoU hAve a gooD exCuse, whiCh aParT frOm rElIgion (alonG with appRoPrIaTe EthNicitY To make thAt BelIeVabLe) theRE seems To be nO accEpTaBLe eXcuse. So YOu CAN say "FuCk You, I'M noT dRinkiNg thAT shItty poiSon" and be aN ouTCast FoR a While, thEn find people wOrTh hanging oUt WitH.

AustrALIa is not aS bad because of the sport cuLTure. "My pErsOnal tRainEr
said no" iS acCeptabLe aND most pLaces I Have wOrK haVE Had a mILD tO zeRo
Drink cultuRE.

not Sure aBoUt thE US, but I Get the impression thAT liKe Australia anD unLike
uk, ruSsiA, EtC. It mOrE AccEPTable to not drink.

~~~
El_dev_hell

 to get rid of things that  remind yo u ofdri nki ng . An d do n't make a
big deal  of it or count the da ys. C er t ainl y  " Only5 daysl ef t unt il  I  ca nd ri nk ag ain " is asign of fa ilu re , but in myo pi nion so is  "A lcohol-freefor 
12 da ys !.. .  13 d ays !...14 day s !" Mak es me thi rs t y just typingi t !Thebiggest indicator of success in mybook w ou l db e  th atthe though tdoesn ' t
enter yo u r hea d , and you'renot payinga nyattent io n t o  it. F ill t he ext ra
time tha t yo u save, e specia l ly at f i rst, wi th new  or  ne glec t ed  a cti vi t ies th ata remore int er es ting& pl e a s a nt,yet  not  toodemanding, so  th at y o u h ave
b etter  thi ng s todo and  expe ri ence and thinkabou t.

~~~
t hro w5 131 9So tr u e abou t " for getting ". I've als oc o m eto the same conclu si o n ,in my
ex perien c es  w i th other  s ubs tanc e s . IfI si m pl y forgot  about it  b eing so me thingth atI w ouldd o, i t just  seemeda lot easier.

For i n stance, a nic va p e ,I  wou ldjust put it  ina  dra wera ft ert he la st co il fi n ished... and within  a  day I  forg ot about taki ng hits in t h e mornin g or wh i le on the comp uter. 

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m c 3
* Allthe c liche he alth bene f i ts and t hen  so me!  Ca r an alogy: you'll f ireup  the ot her  2 cyli nde rswhi leno  longer n eeding t oto wacar avan. Combinewi thex erc ise a n d bett er di et w hi ch wil l be ea s ie r to s ti ck  todue  t o nodrug s  to  sap yo ur will p owe r .

*  A bi lity to  drive places .Not worryab out  being " DUI" the  same or next day.

* Y o u'll ex erc ise y ourability t o s ay no!  In the UK  for e xampl eiti s  sacr i l eg iou sto not dri n k  un lessyo u ha ve a go od excuse, which a p art  from religio n ( alon g wi tha pp r opr ia t e e t h nicity to makethat belie va b le ) there se e msto  be noaccepta ble e x cuse. S o you can  say "fuc kyou, I 'mnot drinki ng thatshitty po i son"a nd  be a n o utcast  f ora whi le, th e n f ind p eoplewo rth ha nging  o ut with. 

Australia is not as b ad bec auseofthe sport  cu l tur e. "My pe rson al trainer 
sa idno" i s a c cepta blea nd  mo s t pla cesI  have wor k  h ave h ad  a mild toz e r o
d rinkcul t ure.
Notsure about the US ,  but I get the  imp r e ssi ont hatli ke Australia a ndun l i ke
UK, R us sia, etc. i t more a cc e ptabl e to n ot dri nk.

~~ ~ el _ dev_he ll

 to_get rid_of things that remind_you of_drinking._And don't_make_a
big deal of_it or count_the days. Certainly "Only_5 days left_until_I can
drink again" is a sign of failure, but in my opinion so is_"Alcohol-free_for
12 days!..._13_days!..._14 days!" Makes me thirsty_just typing it! The
biggest indicator_of success_in my book would be that the thought_doesn't
enter_your head, and_you're not paying any attention to it. Fill the_extra
time that you save, especially at_first, with new_or_neglected_activities that
are more interesting_& pleasant, yet not too demanding,_so that you have
better things to_do and experience and think about.

~~~
throw51319
So true_about "forgetting". I've also come to_the same conclusion, in my
experiences_with other_substances. If I simply forgot_about it being_something
that I_would do, it_just seemed a lot easier.

For instance,_a nic vape,_I would just put it in_a_drawer after the_last_coil
finished..._and within_a day I_forgot_about taking_hits_in the morning or
while on the_computer.

------
mc3
*_All the cliche health benefits and then_some! Car analogy: you'll_fire_up the other 2_cylinders while no longer needing_to tow a caravan. Combine with_exercise and_better diet_which will be easier to stick to due to no drugs_to sap your will power.

* Ability_to drive places. Not_worry about_being_"DUI" the same_or_next day.

*_You'll exercise your ability to say no!_In the_UK for example it is sacrilegious_to not drink unless_you_have a good excuse, which apart_from religion (along with appropriate ethnicity_to make that believable) there_seems_to_be no acceptable excuse. So_you can say "fuck you, I'm_not drinking that_shitty poison" and be an outcast for_a_while, then find people worth hanging_out_with.

Australia is not as bad because_of_the_sport culture. "My personal trainer
said_no" is acceptable and most places_I have work have had a mild to zero
drink_culture.

Not sure about_the US, but I get_the_impression_that like Australia and unlike
UK, Russia, etc. it more acceptable_to not_drink.

~~~
el_dev_hell
