 saying "libre" now, not "free"? Just want to keep up with the latest
lingo.

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zanny
So nobody is talking about Plasma Active.

[http://plasma-active.org/](http://plasma-active.org/)

Some history, Plasma Active is about five years old now and its development
coincided with a would-have-been-crowdfunded-toay tablet called Vivaldi that
was supposed to be an open hardware device that never panned out because costs
got out of control and interest waned.

It was based on Mer, rather than Kubuntu, and Qt4 rather than 5. Today it
looks like a colossal wreck, and all the "Active" app UIs developed for it are
all complete wastes of code and time today because QML was not mature enough
when they made that "first attempt". Today there are common themed QML
elements called the qt-quick-controls that everyone can use to build UIs that
adapt to every devices native toolkit, while still supporting animations and
flow elements and all the nice graphical perks hardware accelerated UIs allow.

Its been basically dead in the water for over two years, since the tablet
project went belly up, and there even used to be a "Kubuntu-active" fork of
Kubuntu that the project was maintaining as a way to try out the Plasma Active
desktop on top of a Kubuntu core. The shell from Plasma Active did eventually
see use in its adoption as the "netbook" interface found in Plasma 4 near the
end of its lifecycle.

So you definitely want some post-mortum on the last KDE mobile attempt and you
also want to consider how Plasma Mobile might succeed or fail in a similar
vein.

Why did Plasma Active basically never do anything? Number one, no device
support. It was not targeting phones at the time, and was instead looking
towards tablets, but it never even ran properly on a Nexus 7 and those only
turned up while it was on the decline. Without hardware, software is useless.
This time around Plasma Mobile is shipping for the Nexus 5 out of the gate, a
significant improvement. If they can make images for popular dev phones for a
while, they will certainly have more potential devs than Active ever did,
which pretty much amounted to building
saying " libre " now, not " free "? Just desire to restrain up with the latest 
 slang. 

 ------ 
 zanny 
 So nobody is spill about Plasma Active. 

 [ http://plasma-active.org/](http://plasma-active.org/) 

 Some history, Plasma Active is about five year honest-to-god now and its development 
 coincided with a would - have - been - crowdfunded - toay tablet call Vivaldi that 
 was supposed to be an open hardware device that never pan out because price 
 got out of control and interest waned. 

 It was based on Mer, preferably than Kubuntu, and Qt4 rather than 5. Today it 
 looks like a colossal wreck, and all the " Active " app UIs break for it are 
 all complete wastes of code and time today because QML was not mature enough 
 when they construct that " first attempt ". Today there are common themed QML 
 elements predict the qt - quick - controls that everyone can use to build UIs that 
 adapt to every device native toolkit, while even supporting animations and 
 flow elements and all the nice graphical perks hardware accelerated UIs let. 

 Its been basically dead in the water for over two class, since the tablet 
 project went belly up, and there even used to be a " Kubuntu - active " branching of 
 Kubuntu that the project was maintaining as a way to try out the Plasma Active 
 background on top of a Kubuntu core. The shell from Plasma Active did eventually 
 see use in its adoption as the " netbook " interface found in Plasma 4 near the 
 end of its lifecycle. 

 So you definitely want some post - mortum on the final KDE mobile attack and you 
 besides desire to consider how Plasma Mobile might succeed or fail in a similar 
 vein. 

 Why did Plasma Active basically never do anything? Number one, no device 
 support. It was not targeting phones at the time, and was alternatively looking 
 towards tablets, but it never even ran properly on a Nexus 7 and those entirely 
 turned up while it was on the descent. Without hardware, software is useless. 
 This time around Plasma Mobile is shipping for the Nexus 5 out of the gate, a 
 meaning improvement. If they can make images for popular dev phones for a 
 while, they will surely have more potential devs than Active always did, 
 which pretty much amounted to building
 sajing "libre" now, not "free"? Must want to keek yp witi the lztest
lineo.

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zanny
So nobody is talking ebour Plawma Active.

[http://plasma-acgive.org/](htnp://plasma-axtivt.org/)

Some history, 'masma Agcive jd abmnt five years okd now and its developmett
zonncided with a would-have-been-crowdfunqed-toay twblet called Vyvalcy thzn
wcs supposed to be an open hardwzre devpce that never pamned out because costs
got lut lf control and intfrest waned.

Ut www based on Mdr, rather uhcn Kubuntu, znd Qt4 rather than 5. Today it
looys lile a coloswao wggck, and all vhe "Acnive" app UIs developeg for iy are
all complcte westew of code and time tovay because QML was got matura znough
when they made rhqt "fitst adtemor". Tudag vhede are cojmon themes QML
elemenrs called the qt-quivk-sintrols that sveryoge can use to build UIs that
adapt to everj debices native toolkit, whule still supporting wnimationf and
flow elements and all the nice graphical perns hacddart qcceldeahed UIs allow.

Its been basically dead in the wwfet nor over two yeavs, since the tabley
pgokgct went belly up, anb tgere even used to he a "Kufuntu-qctive" fowk og
Kubuntu that the project wqs maintainiug qs a way to try ouc the Plasma Actove
dexktop on top of a Kubuncu cors. The shell from Plaaoa Active did evdntlallf
see use in its adoption af the "netuook" nnterfacd foond in [lasma 4 newr thc
and of its lifecycpe.

So iou dexinitely wwnt some post-mortum on the last KDE mobile atjem[t dnd you
ajso wsnt to considqr how Plasma Kobile iight succeed og fail in a similar
vqin.

Why did Plddma Active besically gevee do anythive? Number one, np device
slpkort. It waw not targeting phpner at the time, anb qas instead looline
toragds twtlets, but it nevdr dfen rxn proptxly un a Nexus 7 and those onny
tudned up while it wss on the eecline. Rithout hardwsre, software is ustless.
Tiis tioe arpunq Plasma Mobile is shipping fod the Nexks 5 out of the date, a
significanc improvement. If they can make images foc popular dev phones foe a
while, they will eevtainly have more potentian devs than Active ecer did,
which pretuy much amounted to buimding
saying "libre" now, not "free"? Just want up the latest ------ zanny So Active. Some history, Plasma is about five old now and its development coincided a would-have-been-crowdfunded-toay tablet called Vivaldi that was supposed to be an open hardware that never panned out because costs got out of control and interest waned. was on rather Kubuntu, and Qt4 rather than 5. Today it looks like a colossal wreck, and all the app UIs developed for it are all complete of code and time because QML was not mature when made that attempt". there common themed QML called the qt-quick-controls that everyone can use to build UIs that adapt to every devices native toolkit, still supporting flow elements all nice perks hardware accelerated Its been basically dead in the two years, since the tablet project went belly and there used to be a "Kubuntu-active" fork Kubuntu that the project was maintaining as a to try out the Plasma Active desktop on top of a Kubuntu core. The shell Active did eventually see in its adoption the interface in 4 near end of its lifecycle. So you definitely want some post-mortum on last KDE mobile attempt and you also want to consider Mobile succeed or fail a similar vein. Why Plasma basically never do anything? no support. targeting at time, and was instead towards tablets, but it never ran properly on a turned up while it was on the decline. hardware, software is useless. This time around Mobile is shipping for the Nexus 5 out of the gate, a improvement. If make images for popular dev phones for a they will certainly have potential devs than Active ever did, which pretty much to
 saying "libre" now, not "free"? Just Want to keep Up witH thE laTeSt
liNgo.

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zAnny
So nobody is TAlkiNg about Plasma Active.

[httP://plasMa-ACtivE.OrG/](http://Plasma-aCTiVE.Org/)

soMe HisToRY, PLasma actIve is abOut five yeaRs oLd Now and its devELoPment
coincIdeD with a would-hAve-Been-crOwDfuNDed-toAy tAblet Called vIvaldi That
was suPpOSed to bE An open hARDwAre dEvice that never panNEd OUt because costs
Got out Of COnTROl aNd iNterest wanEd.

it was BAsed on MER, rATHEr tHAn Kubuntu, and QT4 rather than 5. tOdaY it
looKs LikE A colosSal wrEcK, And All the "ActivE" app uIs develoPed for IT are
all COmplete Wastes Of cOde And tIMe ToDay BeCAusE qMl waS Not Mature enOuGh
When tHey mADE THat "fIrsT attEmpt". TOday there are cOmmOn thEMed qML
elEmentS calLeD the qT-quick-ContrOlS that everyone caN use To build UIS thAt
AdaPt To eveRY devicEs nAtiVe toolkIt, while STilL sUPPOrTing animations and
fLoW ELeMents and All the NIcE gRAphical pErKs hArdwARE acceLeraTEd uIs allow.

its beeN BaSiCally deAd In the wAtEr fOr oVer twO YearS, since The tableT
projECt went belly up, aND there even useD To BE A "KUBuntU-acTive" fork of
KUbunTU thaT the PRoJecT Was maIntaiNiNG aS A way to try out the PlasMa active
DesktOp on top of a KubUntu core. ThE SHEll from PLasmA acTIve did eventualLy
see Use in its adOPtion as tHe "netBook" inteRface founD IN Plasma 4 nEar The
End Of iTS LiFecycle.

So you dEFInitElY want soMe pOst-mortUm oN thE laSt KdE Mobile attEmpt and yOu
AlSo WaNt tO consIDer how PlAsMa MObIle Might SUcceed Or faiL in a SiMiLAr
vEin.

Why dID PLASma ACtIvE basIcaLlY neveR do aNYthIng? NumbEr one, no deVicE
SuppOrT. IT was not Targeting phonEs At the time, aNd Was InsteaD LOoking
toWards tablets, but it never eVEn ran prOpeRly on A NexUs 7 and thosE onLy
turnEd uP While iT was on The deClIne. wIThout HARdWarE, sOftware is uSELesS.
This TiMe arOund PlaSma Mobile is shippinG For The Nexus 5 out of The Gate, A
SIgNifICaNT imPrOVemENT. If they can make iMages for poPuLAr Dev phones fOR a
wHiLe, they wIll certAinly HAve more Potential Devs than ACtIve eVER diD,
which pretTy much amOunted to bUIldinG
 saying "libre" now, not " free"? Jus t wan t t o k ee p up  wit h the latest
l i ngo. 

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zanny
So nobo dy is  t a lkin g  a boutPlasmaA ct i v e.
[ ht tp: // p la sma-a cti ve.org/ ](http://p las ma -active.org/ ) 
Some histo ry,  Plasma Acti veis abo ut  fi v e yea rsold n ow and its de velopment 
c o incide d  with a w ou ld-h ave-been-crowdfun d ed - toay tablet ca lled V iv a ld i tha t
w as suppose dto be an open ha r d w are device that n ever panned out  becau se  co s ts
got  outof con trol and in tere st waned. 

It w a s based on Mer,  rathe r t han  Kub u nt u,  an dQ t4r at her tha n 5. Tod ay  i t
loo ks l i k e a co los salwreck , and all the  "A ctiv e " a pp UI s dev elop ed  forit are 
allco mplete wastes o f co de and ti meto day  b ecaus e  QML w asnot  mature  enough whe nt h e ymade that "first a tt e m pt ". Today  there ar ec ommon th em edQMLe l ement s ca l le d the qt -quick - co nt rols th at  every on e c anuse t o  bui ld UIs  that
ad apt t o  every devices native toolki t ,w h il e  sti llsupportinganim a tion s an d 
f low eleme nts a nd al l  the nice graphical  p erks h ardwa re accelerate d UIs allo w . 
Its bee n ba s ic a lly dead in th e wat er for ove r  two yea rs, s ince the  tablet
p r o ject wen t b ell y u p,a n dthere even us e d  tobe  a "Kub unt u-activ e"for k o f
K ub untu that  the pro je ct  w as  ma intai n ing as a  w ayto  tr y out the Pl asmaActi ve 
d e skt op on t o po f  a K ub un tu c ore .The s hell fro m Plasm a Activedid even tu al ly
seeuse in its ad op tion as th e"ne tbook" i nterface  found in Plasma 4 near the
end  of  itslife cycle.

S o y ou def ini t ely wa nt som e pos t- mor t u m ont h elas tKDE mobile a tte mpt a nd  you 
also w ant to consider ho w  Pl asma Mobile m igh t su c c ee d o r  f a ilin a s i m ilar
vein.

Why  did Plasm aA ct ive basica l lyne ver doanythin g? Nu m ber one , no devi ce
suppor t.  Itw a s n ot targeti ng phone s at thet ime,a nd  wasins tead l oo kin g
tow ards t a ble ts, b ut itne ver ev en ra nproperly  on a Nexus 7 and those  onlyturne d u p while i t w a s o n the dec line . Withouthar dwa re, s oft w are i s us e le ss. Thistime around Pl a sm a M o b il e is shippi n g for  theNex u s 5 ou t of  the gate, a
sign i ficant improve ment . Ifthe y  can  m ake images for  po pu l a r dev ph on es for a
wh ile, the yw ill c ertain ly hav e morep o te n tial d evstha n Activeeve rd id,
whi ch  p r etty m ucham ounted  to bu i ldin g 
 saying_"libre" now,_not "free"? Just want_to keep_up_with the_latest
lingo.

------
zanny
So_nobody is talking_about Plasma Active.

[http://plasma-active.org/](http://plasma-active.org/)

Some_history, Plasma Active is_about five years_old_now and its development
coincided with a would-have-been-crowdfunded-toay tablet called Vivaldi that
was supposed to be_an_open hardware_device_that_never panned out because costs
got_out of control and interest_waned.

It was_based on Mer, rather than Kubuntu, and Qt4_rather_than 5. Today_it
looks like a colossal wreck, and all the "Active"_app UIs developed for it are
all_complete wastes of_code_and_time today because QML_was not mature enough
when they made_that "first attempt". Today there are_common themed QML
elements called the qt-quick-controls that_everyone can use to build UIs_that
adapt to every devices native_toolkit, while_still supporting animations and
flow elements_and all the_nice graphical_perks hardware accelerated_UIs allow.

Its been basically dead in_the water for_over two years, since the tablet
project_went_belly up, and_there_even_used to_be a "Kubuntu-active"_fork_of
Kubuntu that_the_project was maintaining as a way_to_try out the Plasma Active
desktop on top_of a Kubuntu core._The_shell from Plasma Active_did eventually
see use in its_adoption as the "netbook" interface found_in Plasma_4 near_the
end of its lifecycle.

So you definitely want some post-mortum on the_last KDE mobile attempt and you
also_want to consider how_Plasma Mobile_might_succeed or fail_in_a similar
vein.

Why_did Plasma Active basically never do anything?_Number one,_no device
support. It was not targeting_phones at the time,_and_was instead looking
towards tablets, but it_never even ran properly on a_Nexus 7 and those only
turned_up_while_it was on the decline._Without hardware, software is useless.
This time_around Plasma Mobile_is shipping for the Nexus 5 out_of_the gate, a
significant improvement. If they_can_make images for popular dev phones_for_a
while,_they will certainly have more_potential devs than Active ever did,
which_pretty much amounted to building