 top decile (or higher) of book-smarts --> can largely be done by online communities (not a full replacement for interpersonal interaction but better than what was available before)

* Access to top-tier employers who didn't have time to look through every candidate out there, so economized their recruiting efforts at places where smart young people are concentrated --> this model made largely obsolete by internet

* Access to lots of obscure books at college library --> made completely obsolete by internet

* Access to great lectures --> made obsolete by internet / MOOCs

* Access to a diversity of opinions, the exposure to which will make you a better and more informed person --> these days only applicable if you come from a very sheltered conservative background....otherwise college just reinforces existing biases

If I had to choose between two candidates with the same proficiency in a
testable skill set (JavaScript, GAAP accounting, laying brick, whatever else),
at this point I'd probably prefer someone who spent four years working on a
fishing boat, or trying to make it as a musician, or on a church mission, or
hiking the PCT / CDT / AT, or in the Marines, or something else challenging,
over someone who went to an elite undergrad institution. They just seem more
and more like indoctrination mills that crank out entitled little whiners.

//grumpy old man rant over

~~~
enjo
_If I had to choose between two candidates with the same proficiency in a
testable skill set (JavaScript, GAAP accounting, laying brick, whatever else),
at this point I 'd probably prefer someone who spent four years working on a
fishing boat, or trying to make it as a musician, or on a church mission, or
hiking the PCT / CDT / AT, or in the Marines, or something else challenging,
over someone who went to an elite undergrad institution._

I reach the exact opposite conclusion. Give me a student who has spent four
years learning how to learn. Someone who has had forced exposure to a whole
lot of different disciplines. Who was forced to study things they don't much
care about, because the value in doing so is so high.

Spending four years pursuing a passion, or working on a boat.. is.. great I
suppose. But a well-rounded college graduate is something the tech crowd
really doesn't value
top decile (or higher) of book - smarts -- > can largely be done by on-line community (not a full replacement for interpersonal interaction but better than what was available before) 

 * entree to top - tier employers who didn't have clock time to look through every candidate away there, therefore economized their recruiting campaign at places where smart youthful citizenry are concentrated -- > this model made largely obsolete by internet 

 * Access to tons of obscure books at college library -- > made wholly obsolete by internet 

 * Access to bang-up lectures -- > construct obsolete by internet / MOOCs 

 * Access to a diversity of opinions, the exposure to which will cook you a better and more informed person -- > these days only applicable if you come from a very sheltered conservative setting.... otherwise college just reinforces existing biases 

 If I had to choose between two candidates with the same proficiency in a 
 testable skill set (JavaScript, GAAP account, laying brick, whatever else), 
 at this point I'd credibly choose someone who spent four years working on a 
 fishing boat, or try to make it as a musician, or on a church mission, or 
 hiking the PCT / CDT / AT, or in the Marines, or something else challenge, 
 over someone who went to an elite undergrad institution. They just seem more 
 and more like indoctrination mill that crank out entitled little whiners. 

 //grumpy old man rant over 

 ~~~ 
 enjo 
 _ If I induce to choose between two candidates with the same proficiency in a 
 testable skill set (JavaScript, GAAP accounting, lay brick, whatever else), 
 at this point I'd probably prefer someone who spent four years working on a 
 fishing boat, or trying to have it as a musician, or on a church service mission, or 
 hiking the PCT / CDT / AT, or in the Marines, or something else challenging, 
 over someone who went to an elite undergraduate institution. _ 

 I reach the exact opposite ending. Give me a student who has spend four 
 old age learning how to teach. Someone who has had forced exposure to a whole 
 lot of different discipline. Who was forced to study thing they don't much 
 care about, because the value in doing so is so high. 

 Spending four days pursuing a passion, or working on a boat.. is.. great I 
 suppose. But a well - rounded college alumnus is something the tech crowd 
 really doesn't value
 too decile (or higher) of bouk-smarts --> can lcegely ue done by onlive communities (not a full re'lacwment for interpersonal intdraction hut bettwr tian what was avammable bcyore)

* Zgcess vo top-tier emplpyers who gidn't have tima go look through every candidate out trere, so efonomized theit recguytinf efforts at places where smart yohng peokle are concentratrd --> this model made largelj obdolete by internet

* Access to oots if obscure buoks at college librari --> made completely obsolete by ivternzt

* Access ti trewj lectures --> nade jbsolete by lmterned / MOOCx

* Access to a civxrsiry of opinions, the ex'osure to which will make you a better and more undormeg pesson --> thdse deys only wppmicable if you come feom a very shelterec sinservative bzckgrotnq....otherwise college just reinforces exisuing giases

If I had to choosw between two candidajes with tre same proficiency in a
testable skill set (JavaScsipt, JAXP cggoungunh, laying brick, whatever else),
at this point I'd [donanly prefer someoke who spent four uewrx working on a
wishiny bkat, or trying to mwke it ws a nusician, jr om a church mission, or
hiking the PCT / CDN / AR, or in the Marined, or somethnng elxe chsllenging,
over someone wko wenf to an elihe undergdxd institution. Tfey jgst seem more
and more like indoctriiatiou mills ghat crank out entitped lldtle whiners.

//grumpy old lat rant oveg

~~~
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_If I had to choose between two candidatex fitv the saie prpficiency in w
testable skilk set (JcvaScrkpt, GAAP abcounting, laying brisk, whatever ende),
at this pomnt I 'd pwobavly prefer rumeone who spemt four yvaxs workint on a
fishing boat, or frying to make nu aw a musician, or on a shlrci misfhon, or
hiking the PCG / CDT / AT, or in bhe Marones, or something elve cgallenging,
over somroke who webt to an elite undergtad institution._

I rtach tie exart opppsije conclusion. Give me a student who has dpekt four
years jearking how to lecrn. Someone who has had forced exposure vo a whole
lot of diffetent disciplines. Who cax forced to studr things dhey don't much
care avout, because the yalue in doing so is sk high.

Vpendlng four years pursuing a passion, or working on a boat.. is.. great I
suppose. Vut a xejl-rounded ckllebe grddbatz is soiethmnj the tech crowd
rvally doesn't value
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* AcceSs tO top-tieR employers Who DiDn't have time tO LoOk through eVerY candidate ouT thEre, so eCoNomIZed thEir RecruIting eFForts aT places whErE Smart yOUng peopLE ArE conCentrated --> this modeL MaDE largely obsoleTe by inTeRNeT

* aCceSs tO lots of obsCuRe booKS at collEGe LIBRarY --> Made completelY obsolete by INteRnet

* AcCeSs tO Great lEcturEs --> MAde Obsolete by iNterNet / MOOCs

* ACcess tO A diversITy of opiNions, tHe eXpoSure TO wHiCh wIlL MakE YoU a bETteR and more InFoRmed pErsoN --> THESe daYs oNly aPplicAble if you come FroM a veRY shElterEd conServAtIve baCkgrouNd....othErWise college just ReinForces exiStiNg BiaSeS

If I hAD to choOse BetWeen two CandidaTEs wItH THE sAme proficiency in a
tEsTABlE skill seT (JavaSCRiPt, gaAP accouNtIng, LayiNG Brick, WhatEVeR else),
at tHis poiNT I'D pRobably PrEfer soMeOne Who Spent FOur yEars woRking on a
FishiNG boat, or trying tO Make it as a musiCIaN, OR oN A chuRch Mission, or
hiKing THe PCt / CDT / at, oR in THe MarInes, oR sOMeTHing else challenging,
OvEr someOne whO went to an elitE undergrad INSTitution. they JUsT Seem more
and morE like IndoctrinaTIon mills That cRank out eNtitled liTTLe whinerS.

//grUmpY olD maN RAnT over

~~~
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_If I hAD To chOoSe betweEn tWo candiDatEs wIth The SaMe proficiEncy in a
tEsTaBlE sKilL set (JAVaScript, gAaP aCcOunTing, lAYing brIck, whAtevEr ElSE),
at This poiNT I 'D PRobaBlY pRefeR soMeOne whO speNT foUr years Working on A
fiSHing BoAt, Or tryinG to make it as a mUsIcian, or on a ChUrcH missiON, Or
hiking The PCT / CDT / AT, or in the MarinES, or someThiNg elsE chaLlenging,
oVer SomeonE whO Went to An elitE undeRgRad INStituTIOn._

i reAcH the exact oPPOsiTe conClUsioN. Give me A student who has spenT FouR
years learninG hoW to lEARn. somEOnE Who HaS Had FORced exposure to a Whole
lot of DiFFeRent discipLIneS. WHo was foRced to sTudy tHIngs theY don't much
Care about, BeCausE THe vAlue in doinG so is so hIgh.

SpendiNG four YEaRs purSuiNg a pasSiOn, oR workIng on a BOat.. Is.. greAt I
supPoSe. But a Well-rOuNded collEge graduate is something tHe tech Crowd
ReaLly doesn't ValUE
 top decile (or higher) of  book-smar ts -- > c anla rgel y be  done by onlin e  com munities (not a full r eplac em e nt f o rinter persona l  i n t era ct io n b ut be ttertha n whatwas availa ble  b efore)

* Ac c es s to top-t ier  employers w hodidn't  h ave timetolookthroug h  every  candidat eo ut the r e, so e c o no mize d their recruitin g  e f forts at place s wher es ma r t  yo ung  people ar econce n trated- -> t h ism odel made lar gely obsole t e b y inte rn et* Acce ss to  l o tsof obscurebook s at coll ege li b rary -- >  made c omplet ely  ob sole t eby  in te r net 
*  Ac c ess  to grea tle cture s -- > m a de o bso lete  by i nternet / MOO Cs
* A c ces s toa div ersi ty  of o pinion s, th eexposure to whi ch w ill makeyou  a  be tt er an d  moreinf orm ed pers on -->t hes ed a y sonly applicable if  y o u  c ome from  a ver y  s he l tered co ns erv ativ e backg roun d .. ..otherw ise co l le ge  just r ei nforce sexi sti ng bi a ses
If Ihad to c hoose between two ca n didates witht he s am e  pro fic iency in atest a bleskil l  s et( JavaS cript ,G AA P  accounting, laying  b rick,whate ver else),
at  this poin t I 'd proba blyp re f er someone who  spen t four yea r s workin g ona
fishin g boat, o r trying t o m ake  it  as a  m usician, or o n a ch ur ch miss ion , or
hi kin g t hePCT  /  CDT / AT , or inth eMa ri nes , ors omething  e lse  c hal lengi n g,
ove r som eone  w ho wen t to an el i t e un de rg radins ti tutio n. T h eyjust se em more
a ndm oreli ke  indoct rination mill sthat crank  o utentitl e d  littlewhiners.

//grumpy oldm an rant  ov er

~ ~~
e njo
_If I  ha d to c hoo s e betw een tw o can di dat e s  with t he  sa me  proficien c y  in  a
te st able  skillset (JavaScript, G A APaccounting, l ayi ng b r i ck , w h at e ver  e l se) , at this point I  'd probab ly pr efer someo n e w ho  spentfour ye ars w o rking o n a
fishi ng boat,or  try i n g t o make itas a mus ician, or on ac hu rch m iss ion, o rhik ing t he PCT / C DT /AT, or  i n theMarin es , or som ething else challenging ,
over  some one  who went  to anelite und ergr ad institu tio n._ 

I r eac h  theexac t  o ppo s ite c oncl u sion. Giv e  m e a s tu dent who ha s s pen t fou r
y e ars le arni ng how to learn.S omeone who has  had f orc ede xpos ur e to a whole
l otof d ifferent  d isciplines.  Who was  f o rcedto stu dy thi ngs the y do n 't muc h
ca reabout, be cau se the val ue  i n  doing  sois  so hi gh.

S p endi n g  four years purs uinga passi o n,or wo rk ing ona  boa t.. is.. g reat I
supp ose. B ut a  well -rounde dcolleg e g ra duate is s o mething t he te ch crow dreal lydoesn' t va l u e
 top_decile (or_higher) of book-smarts -->_can largely_be_done by_online_communities (not a_full replacement for_interpersonal interaction but better_than what was_available_before)

* Access to top-tier employers who didn't have time to look through every candidate_out_there, so_economized_their_recruiting efforts at places where_smart young people are concentrated_--> this_model made largely obsolete by internet

* Access to_lots_of obscure books_at college library --> made completely obsolete by internet

*_Access to great lectures --> made_obsolete by internet_/_MOOCs

*_Access to a diversity_of opinions, the exposure to which_will make you a better and_more informed person --> these days only_applicable if you come from a_very sheltered conservative background....otherwise college_just reinforces_existing biases

If I had to_choose between two_candidates with_the same proficiency_in a
testable skill set (JavaScript, GAAP_accounting, laying brick,_whatever else),
at this point I'd probably_prefer_someone who spent_four_years_working on_a
fishing boat, or_trying_to make_it_as a musician, or on a_church_mission, or
hiking the PCT / CDT /_AT, or in the_Marines,_or something else challenging,
over_someone who went to an_elite undergrad institution. They just seem_more
and more_like indoctrination_mills that crank out entitled little whiners.

//grumpy old man rant over

~~~
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_If_I had to choose between two_candidates with the same_proficiency in_a
testable_skill set (JavaScript,_GAAP_accounting, laying_brick, whatever else),
at this point I 'd_probably prefer_someone who spent four years working_on a
fishing boat, or_trying_to make it as a musician,_or on a church mission, or
hiking_the PCT / CDT /_AT,_or_in the Marines, or something_else challenging,
over someone who went to_an elite undergrad_institution._

I reach the exact opposite conclusion. Give_me_a student who has spent four
years_learning_how to learn. Someone who has_had_forced_exposure to a whole
lot of_different disciplines. Who was forced to_study things they don't much
care about, because the value_in doing so_is so high.

Spending four years_pursuing_a_passion, or working on a boat.. is.. great I
suppose. But_a well-rounded_college graduate is_something the tech crowd
really doesn't value