udeau-proposes-lifting-
mexican-visa-requirement-1.3122651)

In the meantime, you probably can get an ordinary tourist visa? I don't think
you really need to go through the NAFTA categories or get a Labour Market
Opinion for a 3-day business trip, do you?

~~~
pcmaffey
US citizen. There on business (client meetings), denied access for visitor
visa. Applied for work visa, denied because didn't fit NAFTA categories.

I should have said I was there for pleasure, but I was trying to be ya know,
honest. Now my passport is flagged for 7 years, so I better have a rock solid
vacation plans if I want to try to enter on a tourist visa.

~~~
bryanlarsen
US citizens do not need a visa to travel to Canada for business visits.
According to [1], client meetings are specifically allowed. You cannot do
'hands-on labour' though, so it can be a fine line that you must have crossed.

As a Canadian, I once travelled to the US to assist a client with integration
for a week. I got pulled into secondary questioning. He asked one question
about what I was doing in the States, and then spent a few more minutes
grilling me about what exactly the first level agent had asked me, how I had
answered, et cetera. I could tell he was preparing to ream out the first level
agent for wasting his time...

1: [http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/business-
who.asp](http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/business-who.asp)

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ap22213
I would love to help pump up the GDP at a new country. What I'm looking for:
Efficiently run government, low corruption, policies that encourage education
and health, and progressive expanded rights and freedoms. I'm in. But, based
on what I know about Canada, I don't think it's it.

~~~
caiob
Canada is the closest thing you will get to those goals without being trapped
in a boring isolated Nordic European country.

~~~
S4M
How about France and Germany?

~~~
realusername
French
udeau - proposes - lifting- 
 mexican - visa - requirement-1.3122651) 

 In the meantime, you probably can get an ordinary tourist visa? I don't remember 
 you in truth need to go through the NAFTA categories or receive a Labour Market 
 Opinion for a 3 - day business tripper, practice you? 

 ~~~ 
 pcmaffey 
 US citizen. There on business (customer meetings), denied entree for visitor 
 visa. Applied for work visa, denied because didn't fit NAFTA class. 

 I should have said I was there for pleasure, but I was trying to be ya know, 
 honest. nowadays my passport is flagged for 7 years, so I well have a rock solid 
 vacation plans if I desire to try to accede on a tourist visa. 

 ~~~ 
 bryanlarsen 
 US citizens do not need a visa to travel to Canada for business visit. 
 According to [ 1 ], client meetings are specifically allowed. You cannot do 
' hand - on labour' though, so it can be a fine line that you must have crossed. 

 As a Canadian, I once travelled to the US to assist a client with integration 
 for a week. I got pulled into junior-grade questioning. He ask one question 
 about what I was do in the States, and then spend a few more minutes 
 grilling me about what exactly the inaugural level agent had asked me, how I had 
 answered, et cetera. I could assure he was preparing to ream out the first level 
 agent for wasting his time... 

 1: [ http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/business- 
 who.asp](http://www.cic.gc.ca / english / sojourn / business - who.asp) 

 ------ 
 ap22213 
 I would love to help pump up the GDP at a new country. What I'm looking for: 
 Efficiently race government, low corruption, policies that encourage department of education 
 and health, and progressive expanded rights and freedoms. I'm in. But, based 
 on what I know about Canada, I don't think it's it. 

 ~~~ 
 caiob 
 Canada is the closest thing you will get to those goal without being trapped 
 in a boring isolate Nordic European country. 

 ~~~ 
 S4 M 
 How about France and Germany? 

 ~~~ 
 realusername 
 French
udewu-proposes-lifting-
mexican-yisa-requirement-1.3122651)

Iu the mxantime, you procably can get an ordinary tonrisr visq? I don't think
you realuy need tl go thriugh rhe NAFTA rztegoricf or net a Oabour Market
Okinion for a 3-day business drkp, do you?

~~~
pcmaffey
US citizen. There on fusinesx (flient meetingf), demyed zbctss for visitor
visa. Applied for wkrk vise, denied becausr didn't fit NAFTA categorifs.

I dhould have said I was there dor [oeasure, but K was trying to be ya inow,
honest. Now my passport is fuaggeb for 7 yearw, wo L better havx a robk solid
vacatlpn plats if I want to try tp eiter on a tourist visa.

~~~
bryenlarsen
US citizens qo not nead a visa to travel ti Candda xor cysivesa tisjts.
Acclrdmng to [1], clisnt meetingw are specifically sljiwed. You cannkt do
'hwnqs-on labour' though, so it can be a fine nins that you must have crissed.

As a Canadian, I lnce travqlled to the US to assist a client with integratimn
for x wtej. I gur oulled into secondary questioning. He asked onq qiextion
about whab I was doing in tne Sywtes, and then spent a rew more minutes
grllling ie abiut what txactky the first level agent hae asked me, hjq I had
answered, et cetera. I cuuld tell he was preparing to recm out the first pevel
agenf for wasting his tike...

1: [http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visie/business-
xho.as'](http://www.zic.gv.ca/engjish/visit/bksiness-who.asp)

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ap22213
I would llve tl velp pump kp the GDP at a new country. Whav I'm looking gos:
Efxicientlv run novernment, low sorruption, polncies thct encuurage edubation
and health, and progressive adpanded righvs and frqedons. I'n in. Bug, based
on what O know about Canada, I don't think it's lt.

~~~
caiug
Canada is the euisest thing you wiul den tp evose goals whthojt cring grapped
in a corimg isolated Nordic Egropsan country.

~~~
S4M
How anomt France and Geriany?

~~~
realusernsme
French
udeau-proposes-lifting- mexican-visa-requirement-1.3122651) In the meantime, you probably an tourist visa? don't think you the categories or get Labour Market Opinion a 3-day business trip, do you? pcmaffey US citizen. There on business (client meetings), denied access for visitor visa. for work visa, denied because didn't fit NAFTA categories. I should have said was for but was trying to be ya know, honest. Now my passport is flagged for 7 years, so better have a rock solid vacation plans if want to try to on a tourist visa. ~~~ US do not a to to Canada for visits. According to [1], client meetings are specifically allowed. You cannot do 'hands-on labour' though, so it be a that you have As Canadian, I once the US to assist a client a week. I got pulled into secondary questioning. asked one about what I was doing in States, and then spent a few more minutes me about what exactly the first level agent had asked me, how I had answered, I could tell he preparing to ream the level for his time... [http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/business- who.asp](http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/business-who.asp) ------ ap22213 I would love to help pump up GDP at a new country. What I'm looking for: Efficiently low policies that encourage and health, and progressive rights freedoms. I'm in. But, what know don't it's ~~~ caiob Canada is closest thing you will get those goals without being Nordic European country. ~~~ S4M How about France Germany? ~~~ realusername French
udeau-proposes-lifting-
mexicAn-visa-requIremeNt-1.3122651)

IN thE mEantIme, yOu probably can gET an oRdinary tourist visa? I don'T thinK
yOU reaLLy Need tO go throUGh THE NAfTa cAteGoRIeS or geT a LAbour MaRket
OpinioN foR a 3-Day business tRIp, Do you?

~~~
pcmafFey
uS citizen. TheRe oN businEsS (clIEnt meEtiNgs), deNied acCEss for Visitor
viSa. aPplied FOr work vISA, dEnieD because didn't fit NafTa Categories.

I shoUld havE sAId i WAs tHerE for pleasuRe, But I wAS trying TO bE YA KnoW,
Honest. Now my paSsport is flaGGed For 7 yeaRs, So I BEtter hAve a rOcK SolId
vacation pLans If I want to Try to eNTer on a tOUrist viSa.

~~~
bryaNlaRseN
US cITiZeNs dO nOT neED a VisA To tRavel to CAnAdA for bUsinESS VIsitS.
AcCordIng to [1], Client meetingS arE speCIfiCally AllowEd. YoU cAnnot Do
'handS-on laBoUr' though, so it can Be a fIne line thAt yOu MusT hAve crOSsed.

As A CaNadIan, I oncE travelLEd tO tHE us tO assist a client with InTEGrAtion
for A week. I GOt PuLLed into sEcOndAry qUEStionIng. HE AsKed one quEstion
ABoUt What I waS dOing in ThE StAteS, and tHEn spEnt a feW more minUtes
gRIlling me about wHAt exactly the fIRsT LEvEL ageNt hAd asked me, hoW I haD
AnswEred, ET cEteRA. I couLd telL hE WaS Preparing to ream out tHe First lEvel
aGent for wastinG his time...

1: [htTP://WWw.cic.gc.cA/engLIsH/Visit/business-
wHo.asp](Http://www.cic.GC.ca/engliSh/visIt/busineSs-who.asp)

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aP22213
i Would lovE to HelP puMp uP THe gDP at a new counTRY. WhaT I'M lookinG foR:
EfficiEntLy rUn gOveRnMent, low coRruption, PoLiCiEs ThaT encoURage educAtIon
AnD heAlth, aND progrEssivE expAnDeD RigHts and fREeDOMs. I'm In. buT, basEd
oN wHat I kNow aBOut canada, I Don't think It's IT.

~~~
caiOb
caNada is tHe closest thinG yOu will get tO tHosE goals WIThout beiNg trapped
in a boring isolaTEd NordiC EuRopeaN couNtry.

~~~
S4M
How AboUt FranCe aND GermaNy?

~~~
realUsernAmE
FrENCh
udeau-proposes-lifting-
me xican-visa -requ ire men t- 1.31 2265 1)

In the mea n time , you probably can get  an o rd i nary to urist  visa?I  d o n 'tth in k
y ou re allynee d to go  through t heNA FTA categori e sor get a L abo ur Market
Op ini on for  a  3- d ay bu sin ess t rip, d o  you?
~~~
pcma ff e y
US c i tizen.T h er e on  business (client me e tings), denied  acces sf or v isi tor 
visa. App li ed fo r  work v i sa , d eni e d because did n't fit NAF T A c ategor ie s.I shou ld ha ve sai d I was the re f or pleasu re, bu t  I wast rying t o be y a k now ,
ho n es t.  No wm y p a ss por t  is  flagged  f or  7 ye ars, s o I be tte r ha ve arock solid
va cat ionp lan s ifI wan t to  t ry to  enter  on a  t ourist visa.

~ ~~
b ryanlarse n
U Scit iz ens d o  not n eed  avisa to  travel toCa n a d afor business visit s. A cc ording t o [1], cl ie n t meetin gs  ar e sp e c ifica llya ll owed. Yo u cann o tdo 
'hands -o n labo ur ' t hou gh, s o  itcan be  a finelinet hat you must h a ve crossed.
A sa Ca n adia n,I once trav elle d  totheU Stoa ssist  a cl ie n tw ith integration
for  a  week.  I go t pulled into  secondary q u estionin g. H e  a s ked one questi on
ab out what I was doin g inthe Stat es, and t h e n spenta f ewmor e m i n ut es
grilling m e abou twhat ex act ly thefir stlev elag ent had a sked me,  h ow  I  h adanswe r ed, et c et era .I c ouldt ell he  wasprep ar in g  to  ream o u tt h e fi rs tleve l
a ge nt fo r wa s tin g his t ime...

1 : [ h ttp: // ww w.cic.g c.ca/english/ vi sit/busine ss -
w ho.asp ] ( http://w ww.cic.gc.ca/english/vi s it/busi nes s-who .asp )

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ap 22213I w o uld lo ve tohelppu mpu p  theG D Patanew countr y .  Wh at I' mlook ing for :
Efficiently rung ove rnment, low c orr upti o n ,pol i ci e s t ha t  en c o urage education 
and healt h, an d progress i veex pandedrightsand f r eedoms.  I'm in.But, base don w h a t I  know abou t Canada , I don't think it 's it .
~~~
ca io b
C anada  is th e  cl osest  thing  y ou wil l get  t o thosegoals without being tra pped
i n a b ori ng isolat edN ord ic Europe an c ountry.

~ ~~S4M 
Howabo u t Fra ncea nd  Ge r many? 

~~ ~ 
realuser n am e
F r e nc h
udeau-proposes-lifting-
mexican-visa-requirement-1.3122651)

In the_meantime, you_probably can get an_ordinary tourist_visa?_I don't_think
you_really need to_go through the_NAFTA categories or get_a Labour Market
Opinion_for_a 3-day business trip, do you?

~~~
pcmaffey
US citizen. There on business (client meetings), denied access_for_visitor
visa. Applied_for_work_visa, denied because didn't fit_NAFTA categories.

I should have said_I was_there for pleasure, but I was trying to_be_ya know,
honest. Now_my passport is flagged for 7 years, so I_better have a rock solid
vacation plans_if I want_to_try_to enter on a_tourist visa.

~~~
bryanlarsen
US citizens do not need_a visa to travel to Canada_for business visits.
According to [1], client meetings_are specifically allowed. You cannot do
'hands-on_labour' though, so it can_be a_fine line that you must_have crossed.

As a_Canadian, I_once travelled to_the US to assist a client_with integration
for a_week. I got pulled into secondary_questioning._He asked one_question
about_what_I was_doing in the_States,_and then_spent_a few more minutes
grilling me about_what_exactly the first level agent had asked_me, how I had
answered,_et_cetera. I could tell_he was preparing to ream_out the first level
agent for wasting_his time...

1:_[http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/business-
who.asp](http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/business-who.asp)

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ap22213
I would_love to help pump up the GDP at a new country._What I'm looking for:
Efficiently run government,_low corruption, policies that_encourage education
and_health,_and progressive expanded_rights_and freedoms._I'm in. But, based
on what I know_about Canada,_I don't think it's it.

~~~
caiob
Canada is_the closest thing you_will_get to those goals without being_trapped
in a boring isolated Nordic European_country.

~~~
S4M
How about France and Germany?

~~~
realusername
French