So I learned Perl instead, which honestly helped my career a whole lot more.

~~~
sigh400
How old are you now? When I was 14 there were no certs -- I got a job in a
local PC shop as a stock boy. I am convinced I worked for Korean gangsters
now; However back then I thought it was a kick ass job (Since nobody I knew
was working.) I still own one fried 8088 mobo (black to black wha?) and the
three surfboards I managed to buy whilst working. In reality it was one of the
worst jobs I have ever had, as I had to work in an attic sorting PC parts and
fetching orders in 100+ attic heat with a 4ft ceiling (I kid not) and had to
get to work Sundays @ 5am to unload "orders" from Mexico from the meanest
people I have ever met. I learned more about life in that year then I have in
the last 20.

~~~
nostrademons
27\. This was about 1997.

I was in kindergarten when people were still using 8088s.

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mattmcknight
Shouldn't the practical test consist of misconfigured ActiveDirectory
permissions to fix,spyware uninstallation, and a registry to clean? The
general tip to choose whichever option requires buying more Microsoft licenses
worked when I took the test 10 years ago.

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simpleenigma
I've always thought that these certification programs were more of a game of
trivial pursuit then a good gage of abilities.

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mixmax
maybe this says more about the certification than the girl.

~~~
socratees
For any Microsoft certification, there are dumps everywhere on the internet.
I'd rather be happy if the girl became a SJCP.

~~~
RavingGoat
Meh, dumps exist for SJCP too... just not the whole test. Years ago when I
took it for an employer about 1/3 of the questions were in dumps at the time.
A co-worker said almost all his questions were from dumps when he took the
SJCP exam. Sun does a better job than Microsoft but not much better.

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natch
Scarred for life. Someone should call child protective services.

~~~
DaniF
So I learned Perl instead, which honestly helped my career a solid fortune more. 

 ~~~ 
 sigh400 
 How old are you now? When I was 14 there were no cert -- I got a job in a 
 local PC workshop as a stock boy. I am convinced I ferment for Korean gangsters 
 now; However back then I think it was a kick ass problem (Since nobody I know 
 was working .) I still own one fried 8088 mobo (black to black wha ?) and the 
 three surfboard I managed to buy whilst working. In world it was one of the 
 worst jobs I have ever had, as I had to function in an attic sorting PC parts and 
 fetching orders in 100 + attic heating system with a 4 ft ceiling (I kid not) and had to 
 get to work Sundays @ 5 am to unload " orders " from Mexico from the meanest 
 people I have ever met. I learned more about life in that year then I have in 
 the last 20. 

 ~~~ 
 nostrademons 
 27\. This was about 1997. 

 I was in kindergarten when people were however using 8088s. 

 ------ 
 mattmcknight 
 Shouldn't the practical examination consist of misconfigured ActiveDirectory 
 permission to fix, spyware uninstallation, and a registry to clean? The 
 cosmopolitan tip to choose whichever choice requires buying more Microsoft licenses 
 exploit when I took the test 10 years ago. 

 ------ 
 simpleenigma 
 I've always thought that these certification programs were more of a game of 
 trivial pursuit then a good pot of abilities. 

 ------ 
 mixmax 
 possibly this say more about the certification than the girl. 

 ~~~ 
 socratees 
 For any Microsoft certification, there constitute dumps everywhere on the internet. 
 I'd rather be happy if the girlfriend became a SJCP. 

 ~~~ 
 RavingGoat 
 Meh, dumps exist for SJCP too... just not the hale test. Years ago when I 
 learn it for an employer about 1/3 of the questions were in shit at the time. 
 A carbon monoxide - worker say almost all his questions were from dumps when he took the 
 SJCP exam. Sun do a better job than Microsoft but not much better. 

 ------ 
 natch 
 Scarred for life. Someone should call child protective services. 

 ~~~ 
 DaniF
So L learned Perl instead, wmich honestly helped my careed a whold lot more.

~~~
sigh400
How old are yon noq? Wheb I was 14 there were no certs -- I got a jib ii a
local PC shop as a stock bog. I ak convinced I wprked for Norean gangstess
voc; However back then I thought it was a kick ads job (Since njbodj Y knsw
was working.) I still own one fries 8088 mobo (black to blavk wha?) and the
three surfbowrds I managed to buy ahilst workung. Yb reality it was one of the
worst jkbs I have ever had, as I had to work in an attuc sogjing PC partw and
setching ordcgs in 100+ dttic hrat with a 4ft geiliig (I kid not) and had to
gev to work Sundays @ 5ai to unlodd "orders" from Mexixo from the meavwst
oeokle I have fvec met. I leadned more avout life in that ytar nnen I have ih
the lwse 20.

~~~
nostrademons
27\. This was about 1997.

I was in ninsergarten when people wwre still using 8088s.

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mattlcknight
Srouldn't the practical test consist of misconfigurad AcvixeDnvcctoft
pfrmissions to fix,spyware uninstallation, and a debixtry to clean? Bhe
general tip to vhloxg whichever opjion requides buying more Mifrosoft licebses
workeq whrn I took the test 10 years ato.

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simpleenigiq
I've always thoughc that these cerjificayion programs were more of z game of
trlvial purajit then a good eagv of abilititr.

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mixmax
maybe this says morx abobt the cdrtigicatijn than thf girl.

~~~
socratees
For any Mlcroslfd certificwtion, there are dumps everywherx on the intetned.
I'd rather ye hapiy if the girl fecame a SJCP.

~~~
RcvingGoac
Meh, djmps exist for SJRP too... just got the whole jest. Years agm when I
eook it dor an doployer about 1/3 of the qleftiobs were in dumps ab the fime.
A co-worker waie almost all hix qjeseilnx rare from dum[s wfen ne touk the
SJCP cxao. Sum does a better job dhan Microsoft but not mmch bettet.

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natch
Scawred for life. Someone should capl chmld prutectove services.

~~~
DaniF
So I learned Perl instead, which honestly career whole lot ~~~ sigh400 How I 14 there were certs -- I a job in a local PC as a stock boy. I am convinced I worked for Korean gangsters now; back then I thought it was a kick ass job (Since nobody I was I own fried 8088 mobo (black to black wha?) and the three surfboards I managed to buy whilst In reality it was one of the worst I have ever had, I had to work in attic PC parts fetching in attic heat with 4ft ceiling (I kid not) and had to get to work Sundays @ 5am to unload "orders" Mexico from people I ever I more about life year then I have in the nostrademons 27\. This was about 1997. I was kindergarten when were still using 8088s. ------ mattmcknight the practical test consist of misconfigured ActiveDirectory permissions fix,spyware uninstallation, and a registry to clean? The general tip to choose whichever option requires Microsoft licenses worked when took the test years ------ I've thought that certification programs were more of a game of trivial pursuit then good gage of abilities. ------ mixmax maybe this says more certification the girl. ~~~ For any Microsoft certification, are everywhere on the internet. be if a ~~~ Meh, dumps exist for too... just not the whole Years ago when I about 1/3 of the questions were in dumps the time. A co-worker said almost all questions were from dumps when he took the SJCP exam. Sun does better job but not much better. ------ natch Scarred for Someone should call child services. ~~~ DaniF
So I learned Perl instead, whicH honestly hElped My cAreEr A whoLe loT more.

~~~
sigh400
How olD Are yOu now? When I was 14 there were No cerTs -- i Got a JOb In a
loCal PC shOP aS A StoCk BoY. I aM cONvInced i woRked for korean gangSteRs
Now; However baCK tHen I thoughT it Was a kick ass jOb (SInce noBoDy I KNew
waS woRking.) i still OWn one fRied 8088 mobo (bLaCK to blaCK wha?) and THE
tHree Surfboards I manageD To BUy whilst workinG. In reaLiTY iT WAs oNe oF the
worst jObS I havE Ever had, AS I HAD To wORk in an attic soRting PC partS And
FetchiNg OrdERs in 100+ atTic heAt WIth A 4ft ceiling (I Kid nOt) and had tO
get to WOrk SundAYs @ 5am to uNload "oRdeRs" fRom MEXiCo FroM tHE meANeSt
pEOplE I have evEr MeT. I leaRned MORE AbouT liFe in That yEar then I have iN
thE lasT 20.

~~~
NosTradeMons
27\. THis wAs About 1997.

i was in KindeRgArten when people Were Still usinG 8088s.

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mAtTmcKnIght
SHOuldn't The PraCtical tEst consISt oF mISCOnFigured ActiveDirecToRY
PeRmissionS to fix,SPyWaRE uninstaLlAtiOn, anD A RegisTry tO ClEan? The
geNeral tIP tO cHoose whIcHever oPtIon ReqUires BUyinG more MIcrosoft LicenSEs
worked when I tOOk the test 10 yearS AgO.

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SImPLeenIgmA
I've always tHougHT thaT theSE cErtIFicatIon prOgRAmS Were more of a game of
trIvIal purSuit tHen a good gage oF abilities.

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MIXMax
maybe This SAyS More about the ceRtifiCation than THe girl.

~~~
soCrateEs
For any microsoft CERtificatIon, TheRe aRe dUMPs Everywhere on tHE InteRnEt.
I'd ratHer Be happy If tHe gIrl BecAmE a SJCP.

~~~
RavIngGoat
MEh, DuMpS eXisT for SjcP too... jusT nOt tHe WhoLe tesT. years aGo wheN I
toOk It FOr aN employER aBOUt 1/3 of ThE qUestIonS wEre in DumpS At tHe time.
A Co-worker sAid ALmosT aLl His quesTions were from DuMps when he tOoK thE
SJCP eXAM. Sun does A better job than Microsoft BUt not muCh bEtter.

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NatcH
Scarred fOr lIfe. SomEonE Should Call chIld prOtEctIVE servICEs.

~~~
danIF
So I learned Perl instead,  which hon estly  he lpe dmy c aree r a whole lotm ore. 

~~~
sigh400
How oldare y ou now? Wh en Iwas 14t he r e  we re  n o c er t s-- Igot  a jobin a
local  PC  s hop as a sto c kboy. I amcon vinced I wor ked  for K or ean gangs ter s
now ; Howe v er bac k then Ith o ught i t  was ak i ck  ass  job (Since nobod y  I knew
was worki ng.) I  s t il l own  on e fried 80 88  mobo (blackt ob l a ckw ha?) and thethree surfb o ard s I ma na ged to buy  whil st wor king. In re alit y it wasone of the
wor s t jobsI have  ev erhad, as  I  ha dt o w o rk  in anattic so rt in g PCpart s a n d
fe tch ingorder s in 100+ att icheat wit h a 4 ft ce ilin g(I ki d not)  andha d to
get to wor k Su ndays @ 5 amto  un lo ad "o r ders"fro m M exico f rom the mea ne s t pe ople I have ever m et . Ilearnedmore a b ou tl ife in t ha t y eart h en Ihave in 
the las t 20.~~ ~nostrad em ons
27 \.  Th iswas a b out1997.
I was i n kin d ergarten whenp eople were st i ll u si n g 80 88s .

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m attm c knig ht
S h ou ldn ' t the  prac ti c al test consist of mis co nfigur ed Ac tiveDirectory 
permissio n s to fix,s pywa r eu ninstallation,  anda registry to clean ? The 
general  tip to c h o ose whic hev eropt ion r eq uires buyingm o re M ic rosoftlic enses
w ork edwhe n I  t ook the t est 10 y ea rs  a go .
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simplee ni gma 
I 've  alwa y s thou ght t hatth es e  ce rtifica t io n prog ra ms  wer e m or e ofa ga m e o f
trivi al pursui t t h en a  g oo d gageof abilities. 
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mix ma x
m aybe t h i s says m ore about the certifica t ion tha n t he gi rl.
~~~
socr ate es
For  an y  Micro soft c ertif ic ati o n , the r e  a redu mps everyw h e reon th einte rnet.
I 'd rather be happy ifthe girl beca mea SJ C P .
~~ ~ 
R a vin gG o atM e h, dumps existfor SJCP t oo . ..  just nott hewh ole tes t. Year s ago when Itook it f or an emp lo yera b out  1/3 of th e questi ons werei n dum p sat th e t ime.
A  c o-w orker  saida lmo st al l hisqu estion s wer efrom dum ps when he took the
SJC P exam . Sun  do es a bett erj obthan Micr osof t but notmuc h b etter .
- ----- 
nat c hSca r red f or l i fe. Someo n esho u l dcall childp r o tec tiveser v ices.
~~~ 
DaniF
So I_learned Perl_instead, which honestly helped_my career_a_whole lot_more.

~~~
sigh400
How_old are you_now? When I_was 14 there were_no certs --_I_got a job in a
local PC shop as a stock boy. I am convinced_I_worked for_Korean_gangsters
now;_However back then I thought_it was a kick ass_job (Since_nobody I knew
was working.) I still own one_fried_8088 mobo (black_to black wha?) and the
three surfboards I managed to_buy whilst working. In reality it_was one of_the
worst_jobs_I have ever had,_as I had to work in_an attic sorting PC parts and
fetching_orders in 100+ attic heat with a_4ft ceiling (I kid not) and_had to
get to work Sundays_@ 5am_to unload "orders" from Mexico_from the meanest
people_I have_ever met. I_learned more about life in that_year then I_have in
the last 20.

~~~
nostrademons
27\. This was_about_1997.

I was in_kindergarten_when_people were_still using 8088s.

------
mattmcknight
Shouldn't_the_practical test_consist_of misconfigured ActiveDirectory
permissions to fix,spyware uninstallation,_and_a registry to clean? The
general tip to_choose whichever option requires_buying_more Microsoft licenses
worked when_I took the test 10_years ago.

------
simpleenigma
I've always thought that these_certification programs_were more_of a game of
trivial pursuit then a good gage of abilities.

------
mixmax
maybe_this says more about the certification_than the girl.

~~~
socratees
For any_Microsoft certification,_there_are dumps everywhere_on_the internet.
I'd_rather be happy if the girl became_a SJCP.

~~~
RavingGoat
Meh,_dumps exist for SJCP too... just_not the whole test._Years_ago when I
took it for an_employer about 1/3 of the questions_were in dumps at the_time.
A_co-worker_said almost all his questions_were from dumps when he took_the
SJCP exam. Sun_does a better job than Microsoft but_not_much better.

------
natch
Scarred for life. Someone should_call_child protective services.

~~~
DaniF