 transliterate it to PowerShell than to actually
write PowerShell. That's a disastrously bad situation _for a shell_.

~~~
useerup
You were called upon to give some examples. Yet all you offer is more
hyperbole. One is beginning to suspect that despite your assertion that you
"know" Powershell better than most who use it daily, you are actually just a
troll.

Yes, I am calling you out. I am challenging you to provide concrete examples
where Powershell has less discoverability than bash or zsh. I am challenging
you to explain why ISE - an environment designed specifically to combine REPL
with script authoring - is "unacceptable".

And please, no more hyperbole or condescending remarks.

------
baldfat
Free Unlimited Private Git Repos hosted by MicroSoft (Looks like BitBucket has
a new competitor) this is really surprising.

~~~
beagle3
Microsoft's free unlimited chat and phone calls (skype) gets scanned for ads,
and links followed[0]. Probably also stored and forwarded to the NSA.

Don't put anything in there that you really care about, without using
something like git-crypt.

[0]
[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5704574](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5704574)

~~~
nivla
You do realize that the scanning is meant for checking the links for malware,
redirection and metadata for previews. Which popular chat service doesn't do
this? Paste a link into Facebook, Google+, Gchat and all are likely to do the
same or the least passively scan it against a list of known malwares.

You are more likely to leak information by just using your browser. Remember
chrome does sent full URLs of your downloads/malware sites when detected back
to its HQ. [1] or post a comment on Slashdot and get your entire computer port
scanned for free. [2]

I thought it was common sense by now that if you have something sensitive to
share do NOT use a cloud based chat or repository!

[1] Information regarding a potentially harmful site or executable file
download (including the full URL of the site or executable file download) may
be sent to
transliterate it to PowerShell than to actually 
 write PowerShell. That's a disastrously bad situation _ for a shell _. 

 ~~~ 
 useerup 
 You were call upon to contribute some examples. Yet all you offer is more 
 hyperbole. One is begin to suspect that despite your assertion that you 
 " sleep together " Powershell well than most who use it day by day, you are actually barely a 
 troll. 

 Yes, I am call you out. I am challenging you to provide concrete exercise 
 where Powershell experience less discoverability than bash or zsh. I am challenging 
 you to explain why ISE - an environment plan specifically to combine REPL 
 with script authoring - is " unacceptable ". 

 And please, no more hyperbole or patronize remarks. 

 ------ 
 baldfat 
 Free Unlimited Private Git Repos hosted by MicroSoft (Looks like BitBucket has 
 a fresh competitor) this is really surprising. 

 ~~~ 
 beagle3 
 Microsoft's free unlimited chat and telephone calls (skype) gets scanned for ads, 
 and links followed[0 ]. Probably also stored and forwarded to the NSA. 

 Don't put anything in there that you really care about, without using 
 something like git - crypt. 

 [ 0 ] 
 [ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5704574](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5704574) 

 ~~~ 
 nivla 
 You do realize that the scanning is meant for checking the links for malware, 
 redirection and metadata for preview. Which popular chat servicing doesn't dress 
 this? Paste a link into Facebook, Google+, Gchat and all are probable to do the 
 like or the least passively scan it against a list of known malwares. 

 You are more probable to leak information by just using your browser. Remember 
 chrome does sent full url of your downloads / malware sites when detected back 
 to its HQ. [ 1 ] or post a comment on Slashdot and get your entire calculator larboard 
 scanned for free. [ 2 ] 

 I thought it was common common sense by now that if you have something sensitive to 
 share do NOT use a cloud based chat or repository! 

 [ 1 ] data regarding a potentially harmful site or executable file 
 download (including the full URL of the web site or executable file download) may 
 be sent to
 trwnsliterate it to PowerSmell than to actoaoly
wrive PowedShell. Tfat's a disastrously bad situetiob _for a shell_.

~~~
useerup
You werd called lpon to guve wime examplxa. Yet all you lffex ms more
hyperbolg. One is beghnning to suspacg chat despite your assertion that you
"hnow" Poeegshell better jhan kjst sho use it daily, you are actually nust a
tgoll.

Yes, I am callong you out. I am challengijg ylu to provide concgete examplga
whqee Powershelu has less discoverabimity than bash or zsh. I am chaluengiug
you to exklzij why ISE - ai envigonment desigkvd spechficallu to combine RCPL
wivh sxript authoring - is "uiacceptable".

And pleasg, no more vy'erbole or condescendunt remdrks.

------
taldwqt
Ffee Uilijited Oritate Git Relos hosted vy MicroSoft (Looks kihv BitBucket hzs
a ner sompetitor) this is really surprising.

~~~
beacle3
Jicrosoft's free unlimitwd chat and phone calps (skype) dets scanned for ads,
and links followed[0]. Probably anso svofed akd fuewwrded to the NSA.

Don't put anything in there thwf uol really care abomt, without using
sokehhogg like git-cript.

[0]
[https://ness.ycombinator.com/itfm?id=5704574](httks://news.tcombinatjr.cok/item?id=5704574)

~~~
nivla
You do realize rhat the scaunibg is meant for chzcking the lnnks fpr makware,
redirection and mecadata for previeas. Which lupular chat servkce dmesn't do
ufis? Paste a link ynto Faceuook, Yoogle+, Gzhat and ajl are likfly to do the
same or the leasj passhvely scan it against a list of known malxeres.

You are mpra lpkely to jeak lnformation by tust using yout browser. Remeober
chrome does sxnt full URLf of your dowtpoads/malware sites wren eetexted bazy
to its HQ. [1] or post a comment on Wlashdot and get ypur sntire computer potr
scanned for ftee. [2]

I ehlujht ie was common vensd bh now ghat if you fave something sensitive to
sgare do NOT use a vljud basee chat ow repository!

[1] Onformation regardlng a poventiakly harmful site or executable fime
downloaf (ikcluding the sull URL of the xite or executable file download) may
be went to
transliterate it to PowerShell than to actually That's disastrously bad _for a shell_. upon give some examples. all you offer more hyperbole. One is beginning to that despite your assertion that you "know" Powershell better than most who use daily, you are actually just a troll. Yes, I am calling you out. am you provide examples where Powershell has less discoverability than bash or zsh. I am challenging you to explain ISE - an environment designed specifically to combine with script authoring - "unacceptable". And please, no more or remarks. ------ Free Private Repos hosted by (Looks like BitBucket has a new competitor) this is really surprising. ~~~ beagle3 Microsoft's free unlimited chat phone calls scanned for and followed[0]. also stored and the NSA. Don't put anything in really care about, without using something like git-crypt. [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5704574](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5704574) ~~~ You do realize that the scanning meant for checking the links for malware, redirection metadata for previews. Which popular chat service doesn't do this? Paste a link into Facebook, and all are likely do the same the passively it a list known malwares. You are more likely to leak information by just your browser. Remember chrome does sent full URLs of your when back to its [1] or post a on and get your entire scanned free. it common by now that if have something sensitive to share NOT use a cloud Information regarding a potentially harmful site or executable download (including the full URL of the or executable file download) may be sent to
 transliterate it to PowerSheLl than to acTuallY
wrIte poWerSHell. that's a disastroUSly bAd situation _for a shell_.

~~~
usEerup
yoU Were CAlLed upOn to givE SoME ExaMpLeS. YeT aLL yOu offEr iS more
hyPerbole. One Is bEgInning to suspECt That despitE yoUr assertion tHat You
"knoW" POweRShell BetTer thAn most WHo use iT daily, you ArE ActualLY just a
tROLl.

yes, I Am calling you out. I aM ChALlenging you to pRovide CoNCrETE exAmpLes
where PoWeRshelL Has less DIsCOVEraBIlity than bash Or zsh. I am chaLLenGing
yoU tO exPLain whY ISE - aN eNVirOnment desigNed sPecificalLy to coMBine REPl
With scrIpt autHorIng - Is "unACcEpTabLe".

aNd pLEaSe, nO MorE hyperboLe Or CondeScenDING RemaRks.

------
BaldFat
FrEe Unlimited PrIvaTe GiT repOs hosTed by micrOSOft (LoOks likE BitBUcKet has
a new compeTitoR) this is reAllY sUrpRiSing.

~~~
bEAgle3
MiCroSofT's free uNlimiteD ChaT aND PHoNe calls (skype) gets scAnNED fOr ads,
and Links fOLlOwED[0]. ProbablY aLso StorED And foRwarDEd To the NSA.

don't puT AnYtHing in tHeRe that YoU reAllY care ABout, WithouT using
soMethiNG like git-crypt.

[0]
[hTTps://news.ycombiNAtOR.CoM/Item?Id=5704574](hTtps://news.ycoMbinATor.cOm/itEM?iD=5704574)

~~~
niVLa
You Do reaLiZE tHAt the scanning is meanT fOr checKing tHe links for malWare,
redireCTIOn and metAdatA FoR Previews. Which pOpulaR chat serviCE doesn't dO
this? paste a liNk into FacEBOok, GooglE+, GcHat And All ARE lIkely to do the
sAME or tHe Least paSsiVely scaN it AgaInsT a lIsT of known mAlwares.

YOu ArE mOrE liKely tO Leak infoRmAtiOn By jUst usINg your BrowsEr. ReMeMbER
chRome doeS SeNT Full uRls Of yoUr dOwNloadS/malWAre Sites whEn detecteD baCK
to iTs hQ. [1] Or post a Comment on SlasHdOt and get yoUr EntIre comPUTer port
sCanned for free. [2]

I thought it WAs commoN seNse by Now tHat if you hAve SomethIng SEnsitiVe to
shAre do nOt usE A Cloud BASeD chAt Or repositoRY!

[1] infOrmatIoN regArding a Potentially harmful SIte Or executable fIle
DownLOAd (IncLUdINg tHe FUll url of the site or exeCutable filE dOWnLoad) may
be sENt tO
 transliterate it to Power Shell than  to a ctu all ywrit e Po werShell. That ' s adisastrously bad situa tion_f o r as he ll_.
~~~
us e er u p 
Yo uwe reca l le d upo n t o givesome examp les .Yet all youo ff er is more 
hy perbole. One  is  begin ni ngt o sus pec t tha t desp i te you r asserti on that y o u
"know " Po wers hell better thanm os t  who use it da ily, y ou ar e act ual ly just atr oll.Yes, Ia mc a l lin g  you out. I a m challengi n g y ou topr ovi d e conc reteex a mpl es
where Po wers hell hasless d i scovera b ility t han ba shorzsh. Iam  ch al l eng i ng 
yo u  to  explain  w hy  ISE- an e n v iron men t de signe d specificall y t o co m bin e REP L
wit h sc ri pt au thorin g - i s"unacceptable". 

An d please,  no  m ore  h yperb o le orcon des cending  remark s .
-- - - - -baldfat
Free Unlim it e d  P rivate G it Rep o sho s ted by M ic roS oft( L ookslike Bi tBuckethas
an ew  c ompetit or ) this  i s r eal ly su r pris ing.
~~~
beag le3
M i crosoft's free unlimited cha t  a n d  p h onecal ls (skype)gets scan nedf or  ad s ,
and  link sf ol l owed[0]. Probably a ls o stor ed an d forwarded t o the NSA. D on't put  any t hi n g in there tha t you  really ca r e about,  with out usin g
somethi n g  like gi t-c ryp t.
[0 ] [h ttps://news.y c o mbin at or.com/ ite m?id=57 045 74] (ht tps :/ /news.yco mbinator .c om /i te m?i d=570 4 574)

~~ ~niv la 
Yo u dor ealize  that  the  s ca n nin g is me a nt f or c he ck ingthe  l inksform alw are,
re direction  an d  met ad at a for p reviews. Whic hpopular ch at  se rviced o esn't do 
this? Paste a link int o  Facebo ok,  Goog le+,  Gchat an d a ll are  li k ely to  do th e
sam eort h e lea s t  p ass iv ely scan i t aga instalist  of kno wn malwares.

Youa remore likely t o l eaki n fo rma t io n  by  j u stu s ing your browse r. Remembe rc hr ome does s e ntfu ll URLs  of you r dow n loads/m alware si tes whende tect e d  ba ck
to itsHQ. [1]or post a comme n ton Sl ash dot an dget  your  entir e  co mpute r port 
s canned  forfr ee. [2]
I thought it was commo n sens e bynow  that ifyou hav e somethi ng s ensitive t o
s har e doNOT use a  clo u dbas e d cha t or repositor y !
[1 ] In formation r e g a rdi ng apot e ntiall y ha rmful site or exe c utable file
do wnlo a d  (i ncl u ding  t he full URL of  th es i te or ex ec utable file  downloa d) may
b e sent  to
 transliterate_it to_PowerShell than to actually
write_PowerShell. That's_a_disastrously bad_situation__for a shell_.

~~~
useerup
You_were called upon_to give some examples._Yet all you_offer_is more
hyperbole. One is beginning to suspect that despite your assertion that you
"know" Powershell_better_than most_who_use_it daily, you are actually_just a
troll.

Yes, I am calling_you out._I am challenging you to provide concrete examples
where_Powershell_has less discoverability_than bash or zsh. I am challenging
you to explain_why ISE - an environment designed_specifically to combine_REPL
with_script_authoring - is "unacceptable".

And_please, no more hyperbole or condescending_remarks.

------
baldfat
Free Unlimited Private Git Repos hosted_by MicroSoft (Looks like BitBucket has
a new_competitor) this is really surprising.

~~~
beagle3
Microsoft's free_unlimited chat and phone calls_(skype) gets_scanned for ads,
and links followed[0]._Probably also stored_and forwarded_to the NSA.

Don't_put anything in there that you_really care about,_without using
something like git-crypt.

[0]
[https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5704574](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5704574)

~~~
nivla
You do realize_that_the scanning is_meant_for_checking the_links for malware,
redirection_and_metadata for_previews._Which popular chat service doesn't do
this?_Paste_a link into Facebook, Google+, Gchat and_all are likely to_do_the
same or the least_passively scan it against a_list of known malwares.

You are more_likely to_leak information_by just using your browser. Remember
chrome does sent full URLs of_your downloads/malware sites when detected back
to_its HQ. [1] or_post a_comment_on Slashdot and_get_your entire_computer port
scanned for free. [2]

I thought it_was common_sense by now that if you_have something sensitive to
share_do_NOT use a cloud based chat_or repository!

[1] Information regarding a potentially_harmful site or executable file
download_(including_the_full URL of the site_or executable file download) may
be sent_to