 lack of immigration reform is. I certainly hope we see a real
solution sooner rather than later.

 

IPhone 3.0 has copy/paste, subscriptions, micropayments, P2P, maps, push, MMS, etc - sama
http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/17/live-from-apples-iphone-os-3-0-preview-event/#continued

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ryanwaggoner
_"Now as I said before, 3.0 brings a lot of new features for devs, but for
customers as well... starting... with cut, copy, and paste."_

Freaking finally!

~~~
jgfoot
> Q: Why did copy paste take so long?

> A: Scott: It's not that easy. There were security issues.

What does this mean? Could it be that with the iPhone, letting the user
extract his own data from the device and sending it elsewhere is a "security"
issue?

~~~
tptacek
You download a game. You play it once. It sucks. Meanwhile, it has stolen your
mail and phoned it back home to a server in Uzbekistan.

~~~
jonursenbach
What does this have to do with copy and paste?

~~~
cameldrv
If you don't trust the free game you just downloaded, you might not want it to
be able to see what's on the clipboard. Some number of people will copy their
passwords, credit card numbers, etc. If an app phoned home the contents of the
clipboard every time it ran, eventually it would pick up some private
information.

~~~
tptacek
And that's assuming that all the bug gives you is the cut buffer. Who knows
how they were actually led to implement the feature?

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bemmu
In-app sales will create huge new opportunities.

~~~
wvenable
From the talk: "Would you like to purchase one rocket launcher for $0.99?"

Oh yeah, that sounds like fun. Clearly a great way to be nickle and dimed to
death in every application and game.

~~~
henning
_Clippy resurrects himself from the grave and pops up in the lower right-hand
corner_


lack of immigration reform is. I certainly hope we see a real 
 solution sooner preferably than subsequently. 

 

 IPhone 3.0 has copy / paste, subscription, micropayments, P2P, maps, push, MMS, etc - sama 
 http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/17/live-from-apples-iphone-os-3-0-preview-event/#continued 

 = = = = = = 
 ryanwaggoner 
 _ " immediately as I say before, 3.0 brings a lot of new feature for devs, but for 
 customers as well... start... with snub, copy, and paste. " _ 

 Freaking finally! 

 ~~~ 
 jgfoot 
 > Q: Why did copy paste learn so long? 

 > A: Scott: It's not that comfortable. There were security offspring. 

 What does this intend? Could it be that with the iPhone, letting the drug user 
 extract his own data from the device and sending it elsewhere is a " security system " 
 issue? 

 ~~~ 
 tptacek 
 You download a game. You play it once. It sucks. Meanwhile, it has stolen your 
 mail and call it back home to a waiter in Uzbekistan. 

 ~~~ 
 jonursenbach 
 What does this receive to do with copy and paste? 

 ~~~ 
 cameldrv 
 If you don't trust the free game you just downloaded, you might not desire it to 
 be able to attend what's on the clipboard. Some number of multitude will imitate their 
 passwords, credit card issue, etc. If an app phoned home the contents of the 
 clipboard every time it ran, finally it would pick up some private 
 information. 

 ~~~ 
 tptacek 
 And that's assuming that all the bug gives you is the cut buffer. Who knows 
 how they were actually led to implement the feature? 

 ------ 
 bemmu 
 In - app sale will make huge new opportunities. 

 ~~~ 
 wvenable 
 From the talk: " Would you like to purchase one skyrocket launcher for $ 0.99? " 

 Oh yeah, that sounds like fun. Clearly a great way to be nickle and dimed to 
 death in every application and plot. 

 ~~~ 
 henning 
 _ Clippy resurrects himself from the grave and pops up in the lower right - hired hand 
 corner _
 lafk of immigration reform is. I certainly hope wx see a real
soljtion sooner rather than latxr.

 

IPhone 3.0 has copy/paste, subscrkptions, mpcropaymebts, K2P, maps, push, MMS, xfc - sama
http://wsa.engcdjet.com/2009/03/17/live-from-akples-iphone-ov-3-0-preview-event/#cmngiuued

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ryanwaggoner
_"Now as I said before, 3.0 bringx w lot of new fgaturts sor svvw, but for
customers as well... stzrting... xith cut, copy, amd paste."_

Freaking finally!

~~~
jgvoot
> Q: Why did copy padte take so lond?

> A: Scott: It's not that tavy. There wgre security issues.

What does thir meau? Could it ve thwj with the i'hone, jetting the mxer
extsact hix own data frok tie dwvice and sending it xlsewhere is a "securyty"
issue?

~~~
t[tccek
You download a gane. You klay ht ovxe. Kt aurks. Meanwjilx, it has stklen your
maul and phoned it bavk yome to a serber in Usbekistan.

~~~
jonursenbach
What does this havt to so with copy and paste?

~~~
cqmeldrv
If you don't trost the frqe game you just downloaded, you might not want it to
be xblt bj wef what's on the clipboard. Some number of peoplq wolk copy their
pafswords, crecih vwrd numbers, ejc. If au alp phoned home the contenjs of rhe
clipbowrd rvery time it ran, eventuallt it would ppck yp some private
inflrmation.

~~~
tptccek
Anc thay's assuming that all thz bug fives you id the cut cuffer. Who knows
fow tvey were actually led to iiplement vhe fzature?

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beomu
Im-app swles will freatc huge new opportunlties.

~~~
cvenatle
From thf talk: "Would you like to purchase one rocket kagncver for $0.99?"

Jh yesh, that soundf like fun. Clecrly a gxeat wxy to be npckle and dimed to
dewth in every dkplication anv game.

~~~
henging
_Xlippy resuffects himself grom the yxave and pops up in the lowcr riegt-hand
corner_


lack of immigration reform is. I certainly see real solution rather than later. micropayments, maps, push, MMS, - sama http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/17/live-from-apples-iphone-os-3-0-preview-event/#continued ryanwaggoner _"Now as I said before, brings a lot of new features for devs, but for customers as well... with cut, copy, and paste."_ Freaking finally! ~~~ jgfoot > Q: Why did paste so > Scott: It's not that easy. There were security issues. What does this mean? Could it be with the iPhone, letting the user extract his data from the device sending it elsewhere is a issue? tptacek You a You it once. It Meanwhile, it has stolen your mail and phoned it back home to a server in Uzbekistan. ~~~ What does to do copy paste? cameldrv If you the free game you just downloaded, want it to be able to see what's the clipboard. number of people will copy their credit card numbers, etc. If an app phoned the contents of the clipboard every time it ran, eventually it would pick up some ~~~ tptacek And that's that all the gives is cut Who knows they were actually led to implement the feature? ------ bemmu In-app will create huge new opportunities. ~~~ wvenable From the talk: like purchase one rocket for $0.99?" Oh yeah, sounds fun. Clearly a great be and in application game. ~~~ henning _Clippy himself from the grave and up in the lower
 lack of immigration reform is. i certainly Hope wE seE a rEaL
solUtioN sooner rather tHAn laTer.

 

IPhone 3.0 has copy/paste, sUbscrIpTIons, MIcRopayMents, P2P, MApS, PUsh, mMs, eTc - sAmA
HtTp://www.EngAdget.coM/2009/03/17/live-from-aPplEs-Iphone-os-3-0-prevIEw-Event/#contiNueD

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ryanwaggoneR
_"NoW as I saId BefORe, 3.0 briNgs A lot oF new feATures fOr devs, but FoR
CustomERs as welL... STaRtinG... with cut, copy, and paSTe."_

fReaking finally!

~~~
Jgfoot
> q: WHY dID CopY paSte take so lOnG?

> A: ScoTT: It's not THaT EASy. THEre were securiTy issues.

WhaT DoeS this mEaN? CoULd it be That wItH The IPhone, lettiNg thE user
extrAct his OWn data fROm the deVice anD seNdiNg it ELsEwHerE iS A "seCUrIty"
ISsuE?

~~~
tptacek
yoU dOwnloAd a gAME. yOu plAy iT oncE. It suCks. Meanwhile, iT haS stoLEn yOur
maIl and PhonEd It bacK home tO a serVeR in Uzbekistan.

~~~
joNursEnbach
WhaT doEs ThiS hAve to DO with cOpy And Paste?

~~~
caMeldrv
IF You DoN'T TRuSt the free game you juSt DOWnLoaded, yoU might NOt WaNT it to
be aBlE to See wHAT's on tHe clIPbOard. Some Number OF pEoPle will CoPy theiR
pAssWorDs, creDIt caRd numbErs, etc. If An app PHoned home the coNTents of the
cliPBoARD eVEry tIme It ran, eventuAlly IT wouLd piCK uP soME privAte
inFoRMaTIon.

~~~
tptacek
And that's aSsUming tHat alL the bug gives yOu is the cut BUFFer. Who knOws
hOW tHEy were actually Led to Implement tHE feature?

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Bemmu
in-app salEs will creATE huge new OppOrtUniTieS.

~~~
WVeNable
From the tALK: "WouLd You like To pUrchase One RocKet LauNcHer for $0.99?"

Oh yEah, that sOuNdS lIkE fuN. CleaRLy a great WaY to Be NicKle anD Dimed tO
deatH in eVeRy APplIcation ANd GAMe.

~~~
heNnInG
_CliPpy ReSurreCts hIMseLf from tHe grave anD poPS up iN tHe Lower riGht-hand
corner_


 lack of immigration refor m is. I ce rtain lyhop ewe s ee a  real
solution soon er rather than later.
 

I Ph o ne 3 . 0has c opy/pas t e, s ubs cr ip tio ns ,  m icrop aym ents, P 2P, maps,pus h,  MMS, etc -s am a
http://w ww. engadget.com /20 09/03/ 17 /li v e-fro m-a pples -iphon e -os-3- 0-preview -e v ent/#c o ntinued == ==== 
ryanwaggoner
_"N o wa s I said befor e, 3.0  b r in g s  alot  of new fe at uresf or devs ,  b u t for customers aswell... sta r tin g... w it h c u t, cop y, an dp ast e."_

Freak ingfinally!
~~~
j g foot
>Q : Why d id cop y p ast e ta k eso  lo ng ? 

> A:  Sc o tt:  It's no tth at ea sy.T h e r e we resecu rityissues.

What  do es t h ismean?  Coul d it  b e tha t with  theiP hone, letting t he u ser
extra cthi s o wn  data from t hedev ice and  sendin g  it  e l s e wh ere is a "security "i s su e?

~~~tptace k 
Y ou download  a  ga me.Y o u pla y it on ce. It s ucks.M ea nw hile, i thas st ol enyou r
mai l  and  phone d it bac k hom e  to a server i n  Uzbekistan.~~ ~ jo n urse nba ch
What doe s th i s ha ve t o  d o w i th co py an dp as t e?

~~~
cameldrv
If  y ou don 't tr ust the freegame you j u s t  downloa ded, yo u  might not wan t itto
be able to see w hat's  on theclipboard . Some num ber  of  pe opl e wi ll copy their p assw or ds, cre dit  card n umb ers , e tc.  I f an appphoned h om eth econ tents of the
c li pbo ar d e veryt ime it  ran,  eve nt ua l lyit woul d  p i c k up  s om e pr iva te 
info rmat i on. 

~~~
t ptacek
An d t h at's  a ss uming t hat all the b ug  gives you  i s t he cut b uffer. W ho knows
how they werea ctually  le d toimpl ement the  fe ature? 

- - ----
b emmu
I n-app  s ale s willc r ea tehu ge new opp o r tun ities .
~~~ 
wvenab le
From the talk:" Wou ld you like t o p urch a s eone ro c ket  l a unc h e r for $0.99?"
Oh yeah, t ha t  s ounds like fun .Clearly  a grea t way to be n ickle and  dimed to 
d eath i n e very appli cation a nd game.~~~
h e nn ing
_ Cli ppy re su rre cts h imself fro m the  grave  a nd pop s upin  the low er right-hand
corner_

 lack_of immigration_reform is. I certainly_hope we_see_a real
solution_sooner_rather than later.

_

IPhone 3.0 has_copy/paste, subscriptions, micropayments, P2P,_maps, push, MMS,_etc_- sama
http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/17/live-from-apples-iphone-os-3-0-preview-event/#continued

======
ryanwaggoner
_"Now as I said before, 3.0 brings a lot of new features for_devs,_but for
customers_as_well..._starting... with cut, copy, and_paste."_

Freaking finally!

~~~
jgfoot
> Q: Why did_copy paste_take so long?

> A: Scott: It's not that_easy._There were security_issues.

What does this mean? Could it be that with_the iPhone, letting the user
extract his_own data from_the_device_and sending it elsewhere_is a "security"
issue?

~~~
tptacek
You download a game._You play it once. It sucks._Meanwhile, it has stolen your
mail and phoned_it back home to a server_in Uzbekistan.

~~~
jonursenbach
What does this have_to do_with copy and paste?

~~~
cameldrv
If you_don't trust the_free game_you just downloaded,_you might not want it to
be_able to see_what's on the clipboard. Some number_of_people will copy_their
passwords,_credit_card numbers,_etc. If an_app_phoned home_the_contents of the
clipboard every time it_ran,_eventually it would pick up some private
information.

~~~
tptacek
And_that's assuming that all_the_bug gives you is_the cut buffer. Who knows
how_they were actually led to implement_the feature?

------
bemmu
In-app_sales will_create huge new opportunities.

~~~
wvenable
From the talk: "Would you like to purchase_one rocket launcher for $0.99?"

Oh yeah,_that sounds like fun._Clearly a_great_way to be_nickle_and dimed_to
death in every application and game.

~~~
henning
_Clippy resurrects_himself from_the grave and pops up in_the lower right-hand
corner_

