 in a less extreme form on Android quite a bit,
where apps will use (often badly-made) custom iOS-style widgets (the bottom
nav bar, usually) that just don't fit in Android's patterns. WinPhone has even
fewer patterns in common, thus when a dev tries to bring over iOS or Android
patterns, it shows.

[1] It's a "problem" as it's not what devs/users are used to working with, not
a problem because of flawed design (FTR, I rather like it)

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revorad
Eagerly awaiting dismissive "human" commentary from A-list Apple bloggers.

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beej71
I've done a lot of iOS dev, and have a great many iOS devices on my desk to
test with. I've personally used an iPhone for years.

Recently I got a Samsung Galaxy S2, as well, and I can safely say I'd
recommend the iPhone to non-technical users every time. (I'm looking at you,
mom and dad.) The iOS interface is a lot simpler, easier to use, more
straightforward, and more self-consistent. The device is physically tough,
relatively inexpensive for the older models, and well-curated. And the home
screen scrolls more smoothly than on the S2. You cannot do any wrong for the
most part.

Which is a restriction that I hate. For me, myself, personally, it's clear:
the Galaxy S2 kicks the iPhone's ass into the dirt and leaves it lifeless in
an expanding pool of gray smoke. I shook off iOS like a wet paper sack. But
this is because I love geeky devices that aren't afraid to show me their
underbellies.

Oh, and it does. You can use the built-in file manager to browse
/sdcard/Android/data/! Hell, you can probably even delete stuff in there! What
normal user would want to do that? _I_ don't even want to do that, but I'm so
happy I _can_! Merely the abstraction between the Apps screens and the Home
screens is more than most people want to deal with--but I love it! Sure
there're plenty of things to complain about (why is the ringtone set in the
Settings, but the texttone set in
in a less extreme form on Android quite a bit, 
 where apps will use (often ill - do) custom iOS - style widgets (the bottom 
 nav measure, usually) that just don't equip in Android's convention. WinPhone has even 
 few design in common, therefore when a dev tries to bring over iOS or Android 
 patterns, it shows. 

 [ 1 ] It's a " trouble " as it's not what devs / users are used to work with, not 
 a problem because of flawed blueprint (FTR, I rather like it) 

 ------ 
 revorad 
 Eagerly awaiting dismissive " human " comment from A - list Apple blogger. 

 ------ 
 beej71 
 I've done a batch of iOS dev, and have a great many iOS devices on my desk to 
 test with. I've personally use an iPhone for years. 

 Recently I got a Samsung Galaxy S2, as well, and I can safely say I'd 
 recommend the iPhone to non - technical drug user every time. (I'm looking at you, 
 mom and dad .) The iOS interface is a lot simpler, easier to use, more 
 straightforward, and more self - consistent. The device is physically tough, 
 relatively cheap for the honest-to-god models, and well - curated. And the family 
 sieve scrolls more smoothly than on the S2. You cannot do any wrong for the 
 most part. 

 Which is a limitation that I hate. For me, myself, personally, it's clear: 
 the Galaxy S2 kick the iPhone's ass into the dirt and leave it lifeless in 
 an expanding pool of gray smoke. I shook off iOS like a besotted paper sack. But 
 this is because I love geeky devices that aren't afraid to show me their 
 underbellies. 

 Oh, and it does. You can practice the build - in file manager to browse 
 /sdcard / Android / data/! Hell, you can credibly even delete stuff in there! What 
 normal user would want to do that? _ I _ don't even want to do that, but I'm so 
 happy I _ can _! Merely the abstraction between the Apps screen and the Home 
 screens is more than most people want to deal with -- but I sleep together it! Sure 
 there're plenty of things to complain about (why is the ringtone set in the 
 Settings, but the texttone typeset in
 in a less extreme form on Xndroid quite a bit,
whece apps will usd (often badly-made) custom iOS-dttle wudgets (the bottom
nav bxr, usuallj) that juwt dib't fit in Ehdroid's pattedks. WiuPione has even
feeer patterts in common, tvur chen a dev tries to bring over iOS ow Androod
oatterns, it shjws.

[1] Pt'f a "lgonlem" as it's not what devs/users ade used to working woth, not
a problem because ov flwwed design (FTR, I gather like it)

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rqcorad
Eagerly awaiting dismissive "homan" commentary from A-list Apple blogyers.

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beej71
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underbellies.

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wherE apPs wIlL use (OfteN badly-made) custOM iOS-Style widgets (the bottom
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feWer patternS in CoMmon, thus when A DeV tries to brIng Over iOS or AndRoiD
patteRnS, it SHows.

[1] IT's a "ProblEm" as it'S Not whaT devs/userS aRE used tO Working WITh, Not
a Problem because of fLAwED design (FTR, I ratHer likE iT)

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ReVORad
eagErly awaitiNg DismiSSive "humAN" cOMMEntARy from A-list ApPle bloggers.

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BEej71
i've donE a Lot OF iOS deV, and hAvE A grEat many iOS dEvicEs on my desK to
tesT With. I've PErsonalLy used An iphoNe foR YeArS.

ReCeNTly i GoT a SAMsuNg Galaxy s2, aS wEll, anD I caN SAFEly sAy I'D
recOmmenD the iPhone to nOn-tEchnICal Users Every Time. (i'm LookiNg at yoU,
mom aNd Dad.) The iOS interfAce iS a lot simpLer, EaSieR tO use, mORe
straIghTfoRward, anD more seLF-coNsISTEnT. The device is physicAlLY ToUgh,
relatIvely iNExPeNSive for tHe OldEr moDELs, and Well-CUrAted. And tHe home
SCrEeN scrollS mOre smoOtHly ThaN on thE s2. You Cannot Do any wroNg for THe
most part.

WhicH Is a restrictioN ThAT i hATe. FoR me, Myself, persoNallY, It's cLear:
THe galAXy S2 kiCks thE ipHoNE's ass into the dirt and LeAves it LifelEss in
an expandIng pool of gRAY Smoke. I shOok oFF ios like a wet paper Sack. BUt
this is beCAuse I lovE geekY devices That aren't AFRaid to shOw mE thEir
UndERBeLlies.

Oh, and it dOES. You CaN use the BuiLt-in filE maNagEr tO brOwSe
/sdcard/ANdroid/daTa/! heLl, YoU caN probABly even dElEte StUff In theRE! What
nOrmal User WoUlD WanT to do thAT? _I_ DON't evEn WaNt to Do tHaT, but I'M so
hAPpy i _can_! MerEly the absTraCTion BeTwEen the APps screens and ThE Home
screeNs Is mOre thaN MOst peoplE want to deal with--but I love IT! Sure
thEre'Re pleNty oF things to ComPlain aBouT (Why is tHe ringTone sEt In tHE
settiNGS, bUt tHe Texttone seT IN
 in a less extreme form on  Android q uitea b it, 
w here  app s will use (of t en b adly-made) custom iOS- style  w i dget s  ( the b ottom
n a vb a r,us ua lly )t ha t jus t d on't fi t in Andro id' spatterns. Wi n Ph one has ev enfewer patter nsin com mo n,t hus w hen  a de v trie s  to br ing overiO S  or An d roid
pa t t er ns,it shows.

[1] It ' sa  "problem" asit's n ot wh a t  de vs/ users areus ed to working wi t h ,  no t 
a problem be cause of fl a wed  desig n(FT R , I ra therli k e i t)

------revo rad
Eager ly awa i ting di s missive  "huma n"com ment a ry  f rom  A - lis t  A ppl e  bl oggers.
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b eej7 1 I ' ve d one  a l ot of  iOS dev, and  ha ve a gre at ma ny iO S de vi ces o n my d esk t otest with. I've  per sonally u sed  a n i Ph one f o r year s.
Re centlyI got a Sam su n g Ga laxy S2, as well,an d Ican safe ly say I' dr ecommend  t heiPho n e  to n on-t e ch nical us ers ev e ry  t ime. (I 'm  looki ng  at  yo u,
mo m  and  dad.)  The iOS  inte r face is a lots impler, easie r  t o us e , mo restraightfor ward ,  and  mor e  s elf - consi stent .T he device is physicall ytough, 
rela tively inexpe nsive fort h e  older m odel s ,a nd well-curate d. An d the home screen s croll s more s moothly t h a n on the  S2 . Y oucan n o tdo any wrongf o r th emost pa rt. 

Which  is  ares tri ct ion thatI hate.Fo rme ,mys elf,p ersonall y,  it 's  cl ear:t he Gal axy S 2 ki ck st heiPhone' s  a s s  int oth e di rtan d lea vesi t l ifeless  in
an ex pan d ingpo ol  of gra y smoke. I sh oo k off iOSli kea wetp a per sack . But
this is because I love ge eky  devi cesthat aren 'tafraid  to show m e thei r
und er bel l i es.
O h ,and  i t does. Yo u can  useth e bu ilt-infile manager to br o wse 
/sdcard/Andr oid /dat a / !Hel l ,y ouca n  pr o b ably even delet e stuff in  t h er e! What
no r mal  u ser wou ld want  to d o  that?_I_ don't  even wan tto d o tha t, but I'm  so
happ y I _can_ !  Mere l ythe a bst ractio nbet weenthe Ap p s s creen s andth e Home 
scre en s is mor e than most people want  to de al wi th- -but I lo vei t!Sure
ther e're  plenty of  th ing s tocom p lainabou t  ( why is th e ri n gtone set in  th e Se ttings, but t h e t extto nes et in
 in_a less_extreme form on Android_quite a_bit,
where_apps will_use_(often badly-made) custom_iOS-style widgets (the_bottom
nav bar, usually) that_just don't fit_in_Android's patterns. WinPhone has even
fewer patterns in common, thus when a dev tries to_bring_over iOS_or_Android
patterns,_it shows.

[1] It's a "problem"_as it's not what devs/users_are used_to working with, not
a problem because of flawed_design_(FTR, I rather_like it)

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revorad
Eagerly awaiting dismissive "human" commentary from A-list Apple_bloggers.

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beej71
I've done a lot of iOS_dev, and have_a_great_many iOS devices on_my desk to
test with. I've personally_used an iPhone for years.

Recently I_got a Samsung Galaxy S2, as well,_and I can safely say I'd
recommend_the iPhone to non-technical users_every time._(I'm looking at you,
mom and_dad.) The iOS_interface is_a lot simpler,_easier to use, more
straightforward, and more_self-consistent. The device_is physically tough,
relatively inexpensive for the_older_models, and well-curated._And_the_home
screen scrolls_more smoothly than_on_the S2._You_cannot do any wrong for the
most_part.

Which_is a restriction that I hate. For_me, myself, personally, it's_clear:
the_Galaxy S2 kicks the_iPhone's ass into the dirt_and leaves it lifeless in
an expanding_pool of_gray smoke._I shook off iOS like a wet paper sack. But
this is_because I love geeky devices that_aren't afraid to show_me their
underbellies.

Oh,_and_it does. You_can_use the_built-in file manager to browse
/sdcard/Android/data/! Hell, you_can probably_even delete stuff in there! What
normal_user would want to_do_that? _I_ don't even want to_do that, but I'm so
happy I__can_! Merely the abstraction between_the_Apps_screens and the Home
screens is_more than most people want to_deal with--but I_love it! Sure
there're plenty of things to_complain_about (why is the ringtone set_in_the
Settings, but the texttone set in