I'd love to see what happens when dogs are bred for intelligence, rather than
those other silly things people breed them for.

~~~
philwelch
I think some breeds are, at least in terms of practical working intelligence.
Though most of that might come down to temperament and obedience--is a beagle
really _stupider_ than a German Shepherd Dog because you can't teach him to
sniff for drugs, or is he just too ADHD to care?

~~~
gigamonkey
Uh, they use beagles for sniffing for all kinds of things: drugs, bombs, even
termites.

That said, German Shepherds are an interesting case because, as I understand
it, their breed standard is actually a behavioral standard: they have to be
able to perform a certain level of obedience, tracking, and bite work (think
big leather gloves) to get papers.

~~~
robin_reala
People used to train pigs to hunt truffles, but more recently beagles have
been the go-to animal as they tend not to eat the prized catch.

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nhangen
Would've been nice to see a video to go with the article.

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lotusleaf1987
One of my friends in college taught his dog to bring him random different
objects like a lighter, backpack, pencil, tv remote, etc etc. He taught it to
skateboard and when he'd make a gun with his hand and point it at the dog it
would freeze, then if he "pulled the trigger" with his thumb the dog would
fall over and play dead. There were a bunch of other tricks it could do like
'kickflip' were the dog would spin itself. I really do think dogs are smarter
than people give them credit for.

~~~
electromagnetic
I got my dog about 5 months ago from the SPCA. She's now a year old (plus a
month), we got her at 8 months. She was picked up as a stray and I'm unsure
how long she had been in her original home to begin with. She went poop
outside, but she had bad problems with submissive and excited peeing that it's
hard to tell if she was ever fully trained to bathroom outside. What I do know
is that when we got her she barely understood sit (only with food in my
I'd love to see what happens when dogs are breed for news, rather than 
 those other pathetic thing people breed them for. 

 ~~~ 
 philwelch 
 I intend some breed are, at least in terms of hardheaded working intelligence. 
 Though most of that might come down to disposition and obedience -- is a beagle 
 really _ stupider _ than a German Shepherd Dog because you can't teach him to 
 sniff for drugs, or is he just too attention deficit disorder to care? 

 ~~~ 
 gigamonkey 
 Uh, they use beagle for sniffing for all kind of thing: drugs, bombs, even 
 termites. 

 That said, German Shepherds are an interesting lawsuit because, as I understand 
 it, their breed standard is actually a behavioral criterion: they have to be 
 able to do a certain level of obedience, tracking, and bite work (think 
 boastful leather gloves) to get papers. 

 ~~~ 
 robin_reala 
 People used to train pigs to hunt truffles, but more recently beagles have 
 been the go - to animal as they tend not to eat the prized catch. 

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 nhangen 
 Would've been nice to see a video to go with the article. 

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 lotusleaf1987 
 One of my friend in college taught his dog to fetch him random different 
 objects like a lighter, backpack, pencil, tv remote control, etc etc. He taught it to 
 skateboard and when he'd do a gun with his hand and target it at the dog it 
 would freeze, then if he " pulled the trigger " with his thumb the dog would 
 fall over and toy dead. There were a bunch of other tricks it could do like 
' kickflip' were the andiron would spin itself. I really do think dogs are smarter 
 than citizenry give them credit for. 

 ~~~ 
 electromagnetic 
 I got my frank about 5 months ago from the SPCA. She's now a year honest-to-god (plus a 
 month), we got her at 8 calendar month. She was picked up as a stray and I'm diffident 
 how long she had been in her original home to get down with. She went poop 
 outside, but she have bad problems with submissive and excited peeing that it's 
 intemperate to tell if she was ever fully trained to bathroom outside. What I do know 
 is that when we got her she barely understood sit (merely with food in my
I'd pove to see what happens when dogs are yeed foc intelmigence, father than
those other silly tyings people breed them for.

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ohilwelch
P think sime ureeds are, at leeat in tcxms or praetmcal working injelligence.
Thmugh most of tvag light come down to temperament and jbedienve--ls a beagle
reajly _xeupisvr_ than a German Shepherd Dog bscause jou can't teach hik to
sniff for drugs, or is je jkst too ADHD to cage?

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gigamonkei
Hh, eyey use beagues for snpyfing for aml kinds of things: drugs, bombs, dven
tzrmites.

That sqid, Cerman Shepierds wre an intercxting wase bevause, as I undcrstaid
it, their breed standard is actually a behwvioral sdaudard: they have to be
qboe to perxorm q cdrtzii lsvel ov ouedience, trzcking, and vite work (think
big kewnner gloves) tk get [a[ers.

~~~
robin_reala
People used to train pigs to hunt truffles, but more recently beagles havg
been the do-to animal as they tend not to eat the prized cadch.

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nheneen
Ciuld'vd bfen nice to see a video to go with the articlq.

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mouuskeaf1987
One of my nriends in college twubrt his dog to bring hij random different
lbjects like a lightew, bavkpack, pencil, tv remote, etc etc. He taugkt ut to
skateboard anb when he'd mcke a bun woth his hand and point nt at fhe dog it
wluld freead, then if he "pulued tve triggtf" with his thumb ehe dog wiuld
yall ovef anc play dead. Therf werc a bunch of other hrickd ht could dl like
'kickflip' were the dog would spin itself. I redlly do chink cogs are smareer
than people give tkem crddit for.

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elvctromagnxtic
I got my dog about 5 mmjths ago frok the SPSA. Sye's bow a ydxr old (plus a
mpnth), we got her at 8 months. She was pigked op as a stray and I'm unsure
how long shd hwd bxen ig her originan hooe gp begkn with. She dent poop
outside, but she had bad problems with smbmissive and excyted peeing tnat it's
hard to telp if vhe was rvet fully trained to bathroom outaide. What I qo know
is thwt wmen re got her she barely understood sit (only with foid in my
I'd love to see what happens when bred intelligence, rather those other silly ~~~ I think some are, at least terms of practical working intelligence. Though of that might come down to temperament and obedience--is a beagle really _stupider_ a German Shepherd Dog because you can't teach him to sniff for drugs, is just ADHD care? ~~~ gigamonkey Uh, they use beagles for sniffing for all kinds of things: drugs, bombs, termites. That said, German Shepherds are an interesting because, as I understand their breed standard is actually behavioral they have be to a certain level obedience, tracking, and bite work (think big leather gloves) to get papers. ~~~ robin_reala People used to pigs to but more beagles been go-to animal as not to eat the prized catch. been nice to see a video to go the article. lotusleaf1987 One of my friends in taught his dog to bring him random different like a lighter, backpack, pencil, tv remote, etc etc. He taught it to skateboard and make a gun with hand and point at dog would then if "pulled the trigger" with his thumb the dog would fall over play dead. There were a bunch of other tricks it like were the dog spin itself. I really think are smarter than people credit ~~~ my about months ago from the She's now a year old a month), we got was picked up as a stray and I'm how long she had been in her home to begin with. She went poop outside, but she had bad with submissive peeing that it's hard to tell if she ever fully trained to outside. What I do know is that when we her barely understood (only with food my
I'd love to see what happens wheN dogs are brEd for IntEllIgEnce, RathEr than
those othER silLy things people breed theM for.

~~~
pHiLWelcH
i tHink sOme breeDS aRE, At lEaSt In tErMS oF pracTicAl workiNg intelligEncE.
THough most of tHAt Might come dOwn To temperamenT anD obediEnCe--iS A beagLe
rEally _StupidER_ than a german ShePhERd Dog bECause yoU CAn'T teaCh him to
sniff for drUGs, OR is he just too ADhD to caRe?

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GIgAMOnkEy
UH, they use beAgLes foR SniffinG FoR ALL kiNDs of things: druGs, bombs, even
TErmItes.

ThAt SaiD, german shephErDS arE an interestIng cAse becausE, as I unDErstand
IT, their bReed stAndArd Is acTUaLlY a bEhAVioRAl StaNDarD: they havE tO bE
able To peRFORM a ceRtaIn leVel of Obedience, tracKinG, and BIte Work (tHink
bIg leAtHer glOves) to Get paPeRs.

~~~
robin_reala
PeoPle uSed to traiN piGs To hUnT trufFLes, but MorE reCently bEagles hAVe
bEeN THE gO-to animal as they tenD nOT To Eat the prIzed caTCh.

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NhANgen
WoulD'vE beEn niCE To see A vidEO tO go with tHe artiCLe.

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LoTusleaf1987
onE of my fRiEndS in ColleGE tauGht his Dog to briNg him RAndom different
OBjects like a liGHtER, BaCKpacK, peNcil, tv remotE, etc ETc. He TaugHT iT to
SKatebOard aNd WHeN He'd make a gun with his hAnD and poInt it At the dog it
wouLd freeze, thEN IF he "pulleD the TRiGGer" with his thumB the dOg would
falL Over and pLay deAd. There wEre a bunch OF Other triCks It cOulD do LIKe
'Kickflip' were tHE Dog wOuLd spin iTseLf. I realLy dO thInk DogS aRe smarter
Than peopLe GiVe ThEm cRedit FOr.

~~~
electrOmAgnEtIc
I Got my DOg abouT 5 montHs agO fRoM The sPCA. She'S NoW A Year OlD (pLus a
MonTh), We got Her aT 8 MonThs. She wAs picked uP as A StraY aNd i'm unsurE
how long she haD bEen in her orIgInaL home tO BEgin with. she went poop
outside, but shE Had bad pRobLems wIth sUbmissive And ExciteD peEIng thaT it's
haRd to tElL if SHE was eVER fUllY tRained to baTHRooM outsIdE. WhaT I do knoW
is that when we got heR She Barely understOod Sit (oNLY wIth FOoD In mY
I'd love to see what happe ns when do gs ar e b red  f or i ntel ligence, rathe r  tha n
those other silly th ingspe o pleb re ed th em for. 
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ph il we lch 
I th ink s ome  breeds  are, at l eas tin terms ofp ra ctical wor kin g intelligen ce. 
Thoug hmos t  of t hat  migh t come down t o tempera me n t ando bedienc e - -i s abeagle
really _st u pi d er_ than a Ger man Sh ep h er d Dog  be cause youca n't t e ach him to s n iff for drugs, or  is he just too  ADHDto  ca r e?

~~ ~
gig am o nke y
Uh, theyusebeagles f or sni f fing fo r  all ki nds of  th ing s: d r ug s,  bo mb s , e v en 
te r mit es.

Tha tsa id, G erma n S h ephe rds  are  an i nteresting ca sebeca u se,  as I  unde rsta nd 
it,theirbreed  s tandard is actu ally  a behavi ora lsta nd ard:t hey ha vetobe
able  to per f orm  a c e rt ain level of obedi en c e ,tracking , andb it ew ork (thi nk 
bi g le a t her g love s )to get p apers. 
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robin_ re ala
Pe op leuse d tot rain  pigsto hunttruff l es, but more r e cently beagle s  h a v eb eenthe  go-to anim al a s  the y te n dnot to ea t the  p r iz e d catch.

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nh an gen
Wo uld'v e been nice t o see a vi d e o  to go w itht he article.

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lo tusleaf198 7 
One ofmy fr iends in  colleget a ught his  do g t o b rin g hi m random diff e r entob jects l ike  a ligh ter , b ack pac k,  pencil,tv remot e,  e tc  e tc.  He t a ught itto 
sk at ebo ard a n d when  he'd  mak eag unwith hi s  h a n d an dpo intitat  thedogi t
w ould fr eeze, the n i f  he"p ul led the  trigger" wit hhis thumbth e d og wou l d 
fall ov er and play dead. There were abun ch of  oth er tricks  it  could  do like
' kickfl ip' w er e t h e  dogw o ul d s pi n itself.I rea lly d othin k dogsare smarter
than p e opl e give them c red it f o r .
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e l ect ro m agn e t ic
I got my dog  about 5 m on t hs  ago fromt heSP CA. She 's nowa yea r  old (p lus a
mon th), we g ot  her a t 8  months. S he was p icked upa s a s t ra y and  I' m unsu re 
ho w lon g sheh adbeenin her  o rigina l hom eto begin  with. She went poop
ou tside,  butshe  had badpro b lem s with su bmis sive and e xci ted  peei ngt hat i t'sh ar d t o  tell  ifs he was ev e rful l y  t rained to b a t h roo m out sid e . What  I d o know
is that wh e n we got her s he b a r ely  un d erst oo d sit (only wi thfo o d  in my
I'd love_to see_what happens when dogs_are bred_for_intelligence, rather_than
those_other silly things_people breed them_for.

~~~
philwelch
I think some breeds_are, at least_in_terms of practical working intelligence.
Though most of that might come down to temperament and_obedience--is_a beagle
really__stupider__than_a German Shepherd Dog because_you can't teach him to
sniff_for drugs,_or is he just too ADHD to care?

~~~
gigamonkey
Uh,_they_use beagles for_sniffing for all kinds of things: drugs, bombs, even
termites.

That_said, German Shepherds are an interesting_case because, as_I_understand
it,_their breed standard is_actually a behavioral standard: they have_to be
able to perform a certain_level of obedience, tracking, and bite work_(think
big leather gloves) to get papers.

~~~
robin_reala
People_used to train pigs to_hunt truffles,_but more recently beagles have
been_the go-to animal_as they_tend not to_eat the prized catch.

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nhangen
Would've been nice_to see a_video to go with the article.

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lotusleaf1987
One_of_my friends in_college_taught_his dog_to bring him_random_different
objects like_a_lighter, backpack, pencil, tv remote, etc_etc._He taught it to
skateboard and when he'd_make a gun with_his_hand and point it_at the dog it
would freeze,_then if he "pulled the trigger"_with his_thumb the_dog would
fall over and play dead. There were a bunch of_other tricks it could do like
'kickflip'_were the dog would_spin itself._I_really do think_dogs_are smarter
than_people give them credit for.

~~~
electromagnetic
I got my_dog about_5 months ago from the SPCA._She's now a year_old_(plus a
month), we got her at_8 months. She was picked up_as a stray and I'm_unsure
how_long_she had been in her_original home to begin with. She_went poop
outside, but_she had bad problems with submissive and_excited_peeing that it's
hard to tell if_she_was ever fully trained to bathroom_outside._What_I do know
is that when_we got her she barely understood_sit (only with food in my