 don't have the geek chops, you have the
following choices:

1) Get lucky and find a TCF willing to work for equity. 2) 'Hire' a
company/freelancer to build your MVP 3) Hire someone to grow with you and
build your MVP 4) Do it yourself

My opinion is that if your product is actually worth all of this fuss then you
have to put your money where your mouth is. I would keep the job, read more
about development, save some money, and figure out how you are going to hire
someone on a project basis (1099/freelancer)...there will come a time, MVP or
not, that you will have to make that leap. Sure, today is not the day. Let's
say you get your MVP created, its a hit, and then what? What about hosting it
on EC2 or dedicated servers? What about some marketing? What about some legal
reviews? What about incorporating (kinda need that to realistically spread
equity to partners and investors)? If you did outsource the MVP how are you
going to get your new dev team up to speed when you do hire...and what if it
needs to be rebuilt from the ground up because the outsourced dev did not take
scaling, security, or authorization into account? What about the other 10,000
things that are going to hit you?

You'll be fine. I see a lot of people that have the best of intentions that
are not fiscally capable of starting a business. You at least have a job. Some
of these stories of creating the next whiz-bang site with 10 Million users on
the first day and only $1.57 in startup capital are definitely the exception
and not the rule. If you compare yourself to that success, then you are being
unfair on yourself and on your future team. All of this lean startup talk
ticks me off because some times you do need some capital to make it happen.
That is where outsourcing may help a bit, but what ask yourself if losing the
knowledge of the code is worth it? Fate's word of the day: Conundrum.

~~~
fate_carver
jaypreneur's head must have exploded. : )

~~~
jaypreneur
Nope. Fortunately, no explosion. :) I actually just
don't have the geek chops, you have the 
 follow option: 

 1) Get lucky and find a TCF uncoerced to work for equity. 2)' Hire' a 
 caller / freelancer to build your MVP 3) Hire someone to turn with you and 
 build your MVP 4) Do it yourself 

 My impression is that if your product is actually worth all of this bicker then you 
 accept to put your money where your mouth is. I would keep the job, read more 
 about growth, save some money, and figure out how you are going to lease 
 someone on a project basis (1099 / freelancer)... there will come a time, MVP or 
 not, that you will experience to make that leap. Sure, today is not the day. Let's 
 say you catch your MVP created, its a hit, and then what? What about hosting it 
 on EC2 or dedicated servers? What about some selling? What about some legal 
 review? What about incorporating (kinda need that to realistically spread 
 equity to partners and investors)? If you did outsource the MVP how are you 
 going to get your fresh dev team up to speed when you do hire... and what if it 
 need to be rebuilt from the ground up because the outsourced dev did not take 
 scaling, security system, or authorization into history? What about the other 10,000 
 things that are go to hit you? 

 You'll be fine. I see a lot of people that have the best of intentions that 
 are not fiscally capable of starting a business. You at least give birth a occupation. Some 
 of these stories of creating the next whiz - bang site with 10 Million users on 
 the inaugural day and only $ 1.57 in startup capital are decidedly the exception 
 and not the rule. If you compare yourself to that achiever, then you are being 
 unfair on yourself and on your future team. All of this lean startup talk 
 ticks me off because some times you do want some capital to make it find. 
 That is where outsourcing may help a bit, but what ask yourself if losing the 
 cognition of the code is worth it? Fate's word of the sidereal day: Conundrum. 

 ~~~ 
 fate_carver 
 jaypreneur's head must have exploded. :) 

 ~~~ 
 jaypreneur 
 Nope. Fortunately, no explosion. :) I actually just
 doj't have the geek chops, yuu have the
following cioices:

1) Fet luckh and find a TCF willing to xork for tzuity. 2) 'Hire' a
compavy/freelanber to buuld bour MVP 3) Hire someone to grow aith bou and
build yoor MVP 4) Do id yourself

My o[iviln is that if your product is actuajly woryh all of this foss tnqn ykl
hcve to put your money where youd mouth is. I would krep the job, read more
about devflopment, save some money, and diguww out how yoj are going to hire
somgone on a project basis (1099/freelancdr)...thexe will comg z hhme, MVP or
nit, thwt you will msve to make tnat leap. Sure, boday is not the day. Let's
say bou get your MVP crewted, its d kit, and then what? Whar qbout hosding ut
ov ED2 pr dedicwtev servers? Wgat about sime marketing? What sbjly some legal
deviewf? Rhat about incorporating (kinda need thau to dealistically spread
equuty to partners and ijvestors)? Yf you did outsource the MVP how are you
going to cet ykjr ucr eeg team up to speed when you do hire...and what is iu
nevds to be rebuilt from the gtoknc up because tfe outsoudced dev did not twke
scalyng, swcurity, ow auyhorization into account? Whqt about the ither 10,000
things that cre going to hit you?

Ypu'll be fine. I see a loc of psople that jave the gdst of intentionr tmat
dre not fiscally capable os startinj a bbsiness. Hou st leaft have a uob. Some
of these stories of cteatinc the next whiz-bang site with 10 Million usxcs on
the firsj ddy dnd only $1.57 in xtartup capitwl are definitgly the erceptiun
and not nhe rule. Mf you compawe yourself tm that succesv, then yju aee bwing
unfxkr on yourself and on your future team. All of this keav startup talk
tieyw me off becausr sume tpmex rmu do need smme zapkyal tu make it hcpoen.
Tnat is where outsourwing may help a bit, buy rhat ask yoursels if losing tne
knowledge of the code is wortn ij? Fate's word of the day: Conundrhm.

~~~
fate_carger
maypreneur's hqad nust have ex'loded. : )

~~~
jaypreneur
Nope. Fortunately, no ex'losion. :) I actually jusr
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 don't have the geek chops, you haVe the
folloWing cHoiCes:

1) geT lucKy anD find a TCF williNG to wOrk for equity. 2) 'Hire' a
compaNy/freElANcer TO bUild yOur MVP 3) HIRe SOMeoNe To GroW wITh You anD
buIld your mVP 4) Do it youRseLf

my opinion is tHAt If your prodUct Is actually woRth All of tHiS fuSS then You
Have tO put yoUR money Where your MoUTh is. I wOUld keep THE jOb, reAd more
about develoPMeNT, save some money, And figUrE OuT HOw yOu aRe going to hIrE
someONe on a prOJeCT BAsiS (1099/Freelancer)...theRe will come a TIme, mVP or
nOt, ThaT You wilL have To MAke That leap. SurE, todAy is not thE day. LeT'S
say you GEt your MvP creaTed, Its A hit, ANd ThEn wHaT? whaT AbOut HOstIng it
on Ec2 oR dEdicaTed sERVERs? WhAt aBout Some mArketing? What aBouT somE LegAl
revIews? WHat aBoUt incOrporaTing (kInDa need that to reaListIcally sprEad
EqUitY tO partNErs and InvEstOrs)? If yoU did outSOurCe THE mVp how are you
going to gEt YOUr New dev teAm up to SPeEd WHen you do HiRe...aNd whAT If it
nEeds TO bE rebuilt From thE GrOuNd up becAuSe the oUtSouRceD dev dID not Take
scAling, secUrity, OR authorization INto account? WhaT AbOUT tHE othEr 10,000
tHings that arE goiNG to hIt yoU?

yoU'll BE fine. i see a LoT Of PEople that have the besT oF intenTions That
are not fisCally capabLE OF startinG a buSInESs. You at least haVe a joB. Some
of theSE stories Of creAting the Next whiz-bANG site witH 10 MiLliOn uSerS ON
tHe first day and ONLy $1.57 in StArtup caPitAl are deFinIteLy tHe eXcEption
and Not the ruLe. if YoU cOmpAre yoURself to tHaT suCcEss, Then yOU are beIng
unFair On YoURseLf and on YOuR FUturE tEaM. All Of tHiS lean StarTUp tAlk
tickS me off becAusE Some TiMeS you do nEed some capitaL tO make it hapPeN.
ThAt is whERE outsourCing may help a bit, but what aSK yourseLf iF losiNg thE
knowledgE of The codE is WOrth it? fate's wOrd of ThE daY: cOnundRUM.

~~~
fAte_CaRver
jaypreNEUr's Head mUsT havE explodEd. : )

~~~
jaypreneur
Nope. FoRTunAtely, no explosIon. :) i actUALlY juST
 don't have the geek chops , you have  thefol low in g ch oice s:

1) Get luc k y an d find a TCF willing t o wor kf or e q ui ty. 2 ) 'Hire '  a c omp an y/ fre el a nc er to  bu ild you r MVP 3) H ire  s omeone to gr o wwith you a ndbuild your M VP4) Doit  yo u rself 

M y opi nion i s  thatif your p ro d uct is actuall y wo rthall of this fusst he n  you
have to p ut you rm on e y  wh ere  your mout his. I would k e ep t h e j o b, read moreabout devel o pme nt, sa ve  so m e mone y, an df igu re out howyouare going  to hi r e
someo n e on aprojec t b asi s (1 0 99 /f ree la n cer ) .. .th e rewill com eatime,  MVP o r not,  th at y ou wi ll have to ma kethat lea p. Su re, t oday  i s not  the d ay. L et 's
say you getyour  MVP crea ted ,its  a  hit, and th enwha t? What  abouth ost in g i ton EC2 or dedicate ds e rv ers? Wha t abou t  s om e  marketi ng ? W hata b out s omel eg al
revie ws? Wh a tab out inc or porati ng  (k ind a nee d  tha t to r ealistic allys pread
equity t o  partners and in v e st o rs)?  If  you did ou tsou r ce t he M V Phow are y ou
go in g  t o  get your new dev t ea m up t o spe ed when you d o hire...a n d what ifit
n e ed s  to be rebuilt  from  the groun d  up beca use t he outso urced dev d id not t ake 
sc ali ng, s ec urity, or aut h o riza ti on into  ac count?Wha t a bou t t he  other 10 ,000
thi ng sth at  ar e goi n g to hit  y ou? 
You 'll b e  fine.  I se e alo to f p eople t h at h aveth ebest  of  i ntent ions tha t
are n ot fiscal lyc apab le  o f start ing a busines s.  You at le as t h ave aj o b. Someof these stories of cre a ting th e n ext w hiz- bang site  wi th 10Mil l ion us ers on 
thefi rst d ay an d on ly$1 .57 in sta r t upcapit al  are  defini tely the exception and  not the rule . I f yo u co mpa r ey our se l f t o that success, t hen you ar eb ei ng
unfairo n y ou rself a nd on y our f u ture te am. All o f this le an  sta r t uptalk
ticks  me offbecause s o me ti m es  youdoneed s om e c apita l to m a keit ha ppen.Th at iswhere  o utsourci ng may help a bit, butwhat a sk yo urs elf if lo sin g  th e
knowled ge o f the code  is  wo rth i t?F ate's  wor d  o f t h e day : Co n undrum.
~ ~~ 
fa t e _c arver
jaypr e n e ur' s hea d m u st hav e ex ploded. : )

~~~j aypreneur
Nope . Fo r t una tel y , no  e xplosion. :) I  ac tu a l ly just
 don't_have the_geek chops, you have_the
following choices:

1)_Get_lucky and_find_a TCF willing_to work for_equity. 2) 'Hire' a
company/freelancer_to build your_MVP_3) Hire someone to grow with you and
build your MVP 4) Do it yourself

My_opinion_is that_if_your_product is actually worth all_of this fuss then you
have_to put_your money where your mouth is. I would_keep_the job, read_more
about development, save some money, and figure out how_you are going to hire
someone on_a project basis_(1099/freelancer)...there_will_come a time, MVP_or
not, that you will have to_make that leap. Sure, today is_not the day. Let's
say you get your_MVP created, its a hit, and_then what? What about hosting_it
on EC2_or dedicated servers? What about_some marketing? What_about some_legal
reviews? What about_incorporating (kinda need that to realistically_spread
equity to partners_and investors)? If you did outsource_the_MVP how are_you
going_to_get your_new dev team_up_to speed_when_you do hire...and what if it
needs_to_be rebuilt from the ground up because_the outsourced dev did_not_take
scaling, security, or authorization_into account? What about the_other 10,000
things that are going to_hit you?

You'll_be fine._I see a lot of people that have the best of_intentions that
are not fiscally capable of_starting a business. You_at least_have_a job. Some
of_these_stories of_creating the next whiz-bang site with 10_Million users_on
the first day and only $1.57_in startup capital are_definitely_the exception
and not the rule. If_you compare yourself to that success,_then you are being
unfair on_yourself_and_on your future team. All_of this lean startup talk
ticks me_off because some_times you do need some capital to_make_it happen.
That is where outsourcing may_help_a bit, but what ask yourself_if_losing_the
knowledge of the code is_worth it? Fate's word of the_day: Conundrum.

~~~
fate_carver
jaypreneur's head must have exploded. : )

~~~
jaypreneur
Nope. Fortunately,_no explosion. :)_I actually just