 up on it but Tokyo is a
long way away from where I live.

I've actually had multiple freelance contracts locally but I've never managed
to do any of them really. I had one making a business database of properties
for a realtor where I couldn't make any progress and just stopped contacting
them. I want to email them to apologise but I can never bring myself to do it.

~~~
murukesh_s
I have one suggestion if you are getting contracts you are good at selling.
Why don't you sub contract the work then? Or work as a salesperson for
outsourcing companies in India or even US?

~~~
dkersten
I was thinking the exact same thing. Hell, I’d almost take some off his hands
haha

------
Timpy
I lived in Japan for two years and I want to point out something that you've
said that struck me. "I don't want my actions to reflect badly on other
foreigners in Japan." This wouldn't have made any sense to me before. I found
that in Japanese culture, the identity of the self is wrapped up in the role
of society. You're too worried about your role, your 建て前(tatemae). This is
different from the West, where individuality is celebrated.

I had to move back home and spend a lot of time with my family to be reminded
that I am much more than a gaijin in Japanese society. I've been out of Japan
for three years and I still think about it every day.

You may already be cognizant of this, but I wasn't, I didn't realize how it
was affecting me. Do you have family or friends back home that you can talk to
about your troubles? This isn't financial or business advice, this is personal
advice. I know you're protecting your 建て前 but you should consider that it's
just a construct, it doesn't define you, and it's not worth killing yourself
over.

~~~
l5870uoo9y
> Honne and tatemae are Japanese words that describe the contrast between a
> person's true feelings and desires (本音 hon'ne, "true sound") and the
> behavior and opinions one displays in public (建前 tatemae, "built in front",
> "façade
up on it but Tokyo is a 
 long way away from where I live. 

 I've actually take multiple mercenary contracts locally but I've never managed 
 to cause any of them actually. I had one making a commercial enterprise database of properties 
 for a realtor where I couldn't make any advancement and barely stopped touch 
 them. I want to email them to apologize but I can never fetch myself to do it. 

 ~~~ 
 murukesh_s 
 I have one suggestion if you are getting contracts you are full at selling. 
 Why don't you sub contract the oeuvre then? Or work as a salesperson for 
 outsourcing companies in India or even US? 

 ~~~ 
 dkersten 
 I was thinking the exact like thing. sin, I ’d almost take some off his hands 
 haha 

 ------ 
 Timpy 
 I lived in Japan for two long time and I want to point out something that you've 
 said that struck me. " I don't want my action to reflect badly on other 
 foreigners in Japan. " This wouldn't have made any sense to me before. I found 
 that in Japanese culture, the identity of the self is wrapped up in the function 
 of society. You're too apprehensive about your function, your 建て前(tatemae). This is 
 different from the West, where individuality is celebrated. 

 I have to move back home and spend a lot of time with my family to be remind 
 that I am much more than a gaijin in Japanese society. I've been out of Japan 
 for three years and I still think about it every day. 

 You may already be aware of this, but I wasn't, I didn't realize how it 
 was affecting me. Do you have family or friends back home that you can talk to 
 about your troubles? This isn't fiscal or clientele advice, this is personal 
 advice. I know you're protecting your 建て前 but you should consider that it's 
 just a concept, it doesn't define you, and it's not worth killing yourself 
 over. 

 ~~~ 
 l5870uoo9y 
 > Honne and tatemae are Japanese words that describe the contrast between a 
 > person's true feelings and desires (本音 hon'ne, " on-key sound ") and the 
 > demeanor and opinions one displays in public (建前 tatemae, " built in front ", 
 > " façade
 up on it but Tokyo is a
lonn way away from cyere I live.

I'be actuauly had multiple freelance clnrractw locally but I've nevef managed
no do any of uhem really. I had one maklug a gmsinevw database of kroperties
fos a realtor whard N couldn't make any progress and just stoppec fontacting
them. I wsgt tk email them to apologise but I cah never bring myself to do it.

~~~
murukesh_s
I have oje skggestion if you age getting xontwqcts you are good at stlning.
Why doh't you sub contract the work thdn? Or work as a sqledkerson for
ouvsourcpng companies in Indid or evrn US?

~~~
dkersten
I wav tyinking the exact samx thing. Hell, I’d almoft take smmz off his hands
haha

------
Tinpt
I lieed hn Jxpan fod vwo years anv I want to point out womething that you'vt
saye that struck me. "I qog't want my actions to reflect badly on mthsr
foreigners in Japan." Tyis wouldn't have made any sensq to me before. I found
that in Japanese culture, tha ideitkty on thd sflf is wrapped up in the role
of society. You're fop eorried about nour role, your 建て前(tatrmwe). Jhis is
differevt from tge West, where indigidualijy is xelebrateq.

I hsd to move back home and spwnd a lot of rime with my familv to be remiuded
thst I sm much more than a gailin in Japanese slciety. I'vs been out of Japxn
fpr three ytxrs and I still trink abouv it zvery dah.

You may ajready be fogniddnt of this, but I aasn't, I didn't reapize how it
was affecting me. Do bpu have famiky or friends back home that yot can talk to
ayout youx troucles? This psn't finaicial or busyness advice, djis is persoial
advice. I kbow tou're pfutecting your 建て前 but you should conwider that it's
just a zknstruct, it doewn't define you, and it'r njt wprev killing yogrseuf
oxrr.

~~~
l5870uou9y
> Honnt akd gatekae are Japanese worgs tgat describe the cpnbrast betqeen a
> pqrson's true frelings and desired (本音 hoi'ne, "trne soumd") wnd the
> behavior and opinions kne displwys in public (建前 eatenae, "built in front",
> "façade
up on it but Tokyo is a away where I I've actually had I've managed to do of them really. had one making a business database properties for a realtor where I couldn't make any progress and just stopped them. I want to email them to apologise but I can never bring to it. murukesh_s have one suggestion if you are getting contracts you are good at selling. Why don't you contract the work then? Or work as a for outsourcing companies in or even US? ~~~ dkersten was the exact thing. I’d take some off hands haha ------ Timpy I lived in Japan for two years and I want to point out that you've struck me. don't my to reflect badly foreigners in Japan." This wouldn't have to me before. I found that in Japanese the identity the self is wrapped up in role of society. You're too worried about your your 建て前(tatemae). This is different from the West, where individuality is celebrated. I had to home and spend a of time with family be that am much than a gaijin in Japanese society. I've been out of Japan three years and I still think about it every day. already cognizant of this, I wasn't, I didn't how was affecting me. Do family friends you talk about your troubles? This financial or business advice, this personal advice. I know you should consider that it's just a construct, doesn't define you, and it's not worth yourself over. ~~~ l5870uoo9y > Honne and tatemae are Japanese words that the contrast > person's true feelings and desires (本音 hon'ne, sound") and the > and opinions one displays in public (建前 tatemae, "built front", "façade
 up on it but Tokyo is a
long way aWay from wheRe I liVe.

I'Ve aCtUallY had Multiple freelaNCe coNtracts locally but I've neVer maNaGEd
to DO aNy of tHem realLY. I HAD onE mAkIng A bUSiNess dAtaBase of pRoperties
fOr a ReAltor where I cOUlDn't make any ProGress and just StoPped coNtActINg
theM. I wAnt to Email tHEm to apOlogise buT I CAn neveR Bring mySELf To do It.

~~~
murukesh_s
I have oNE sUGgestion if you aRe gettInG CoNTRacTs yOu are good aT sEllinG.
why don't YOu SUB ConTRact the work thEn? Or work as a SAleSpersoN fOr
oUTsourcIng coMpANieS in India or eVen Us?

~~~
dkersten
i was thINking thE Exact saMe thinG. HeLl, I’D almOSt TaKe sOmE Off HIs HanDS
haHa

------
Timpy
I LiVeD in JaPan fOR TWO yeaRs aNd I wAnt to Point out sometHinG thaT You'Ve
saiD that StruCk Me. "I doN't want My actIoNs to reflect badlY on oTher
foreiGneRs In JApAn." ThiS Wouldn'T haVe mAde any sEnse to mE BefOrE. i FOuNd
that in Japanese cuLtURE, tHe identiTy of thE SeLf IS wrapped Up In tHe roLE
Of socIety. yOu'Re too worRied abOUt YoUr role, yOuR 建て前(tatemAe). thiS is
DiffeREnt fRom the west, wherE indiVIduality is celeBRated.

I had to moVE bACK hOMe anD spEnd a lot of tiMe wiTH my fAmilY To Be rEMindeD
that i aM MuCH more than a gaijin in JApAnese sOcietY. I've been out of japan
for thREE Years and i stiLL tHInk about it everY day.

YOu may alreaDY be cogniZant oF this, but i wasn't, I diDN'T realize How It
wAs aFfeCTInG me. Do you have fAMIly oR fRiends bAck Home thaT yoU caN taLk tO
aBout your tRoubles? THiS iSn'T fInaNcial OR businesS aDviCe, ThiS is peRSonal
aDvice. i knoW yOu'RE prOtectinG YoUR 建て前 But yOu ShOuld ConSiDer thAt it'S
JusT a constRuct, it doeSn't DEfinE yOu, And it's nOt worth killinG yOurself
oveR.

~~~
l5870Uoo9Y
> Honne AND tatemae Are Japanese words that desCRibe the ConTrast BetwEen a
> persoN's tRue feeLinGS and deSires (本音 hOn'ne, "tRuE soUND") and tHE
> BeHavIoR and opinioNS One DisplAyS in pUblic (建前 taTemae, "built in front",
> "fAÇadE
 up on it but Tokyo is a
l ong way aw ay fr omwhe re  I l ive. 

I've actuall y  had  multiple freelance co ntrac ts loca l ly  butI've ne v er m ana ge dtodo an y ofthe m reall y. I had o nema king a busin e ss  databaseofproperties
f ora real to r w h ere I  co uldn' t make any pr ogress an dj ust st o pped co n t ac ting 
them. I want toe ma i l them to apol ogisebu t  I c annev er bring m ys elf t o  do it. 
~ ~ ~ mur u kesh_s
I have  one sugges t ion  if yo uare gettin g con tr a cts  you are go od a t selling .
Whyd on't yo u  sub co ntract  th e w orkt he n?  Or  w o rka sa s a les person f or 
o utsou rcin g c o mpan ies  inIndia  or even US?
~~ ~
dk e rst en
Iwas t hink in g the  exact  same  t hing. Hell, I’d  alm ost takesom eoff  h is ha n ds
hah a
--- ---
Tim py
I li v edin J a pa n for two years an dI wa nt to po int ou t  s om e thing th at  yo u've s aid t hats tr uck me."I don ' twa nt my a ct ions t oref lec t bad l y on  other 
foreign ers i n  Japan." Thisw ouldn't havem ad e an y  sen seto me befor e. I foun d
th a tinJ apane se cu lt u re ,  the identity of th eself i s wra pped up in th e role
ofs o c iety. Yo u're to o  worried about  your  role, you r  建て前(tat emae) . This i s
differe n t  from th e W est , w her e in dividuality i s cele br ated.
I h ad to m ove  ba ckhom eand spend  a lot o fti me  w ith  my f a mily tobe  re mi nde d
tha t  I ammuchmore  t ha n  agaijini nJ a pane se  s ocie ty.  I 've b eeno utof Japa n
for thr eey ears  a nd  I stil l think about  i t every da y. 

Y ou may a lready b e cognizant of this, bu t  I wasn 't,  I di dn't  realizehow  it
wa s a f fectin g me.Do yo uhav e famil y or  fr ie nds back h o m e t hat y ou  can  talk t o
about your troub l es?  This isn't f ina ncia l or  bu s in e ssad v ice , this is persona l
advice.Ik no w you're p r ote ct ing you r 建て前 b ut yo u  should  consider  that it' sjust a  co nstruct, i t doesn' t definey ou, a n dit'snot  worth  k ill ing y oursel f 
ov er.
~~~
l5 87 0uoo9y 
> Ho nn e and ta temae are Japanese word s that  desc rib e the con tra s t b etween a> pe rson's tru e f eel ingsand desir es ( 本 音hon ' ne, " true sound") a n dthe >  b ehavior and o p ini ons o ned isplay s in  public (建前 tatem a e, "built in f ront " , 
>"fa ç ade
 up_on it_but Tokyo is a
long_way away_from_where I_live.

I've_actually had multiple_freelance contracts locally_but I've never managed
to_do any of_them_really. I had one making a business database of properties
for a realtor where I_couldn't_make any_progress_and_just stopped contacting
them. I want_to email them to apologise_but I_can never bring myself to do it.

~~~
murukesh_s
I have_one_suggestion if you_are getting contracts you are good at selling.
Why don't_you sub contract the work then?_Or work as_a_salesperson_for
outsourcing companies in India_or even US?

~~~
dkersten
I was thinking the_exact same thing. Hell, I’d almost_take some off his hands
haha

------
Timpy
I lived in_Japan for two years and I_want to point out something_that you've
said_that struck me. "I don't_want my actions_to reflect_badly on other
foreigners_in Japan." This wouldn't have made_any sense to_me before. I found
that in Japanese_culture,_the identity of_the_self_is wrapped_up in the_role
of_society. You're_too_worried about your role, your 建て前(tatemae)._This_is
different from the West, where individuality is_celebrated.

I had to move_back_home and spend a_lot of time with my_family to be reminded
that I am_much more_than a_gaijin in Japanese society. I've been out of Japan
for three years_and I still think about it_every day.

You may already_be cognizant_of_this, but I_wasn't,_I didn't_realize how it
was affecting me. Do you_have family_or friends back home that you_can talk to
about your_troubles?_This isn't financial or business advice,_this is personal
advice. I know you're_protecting your 建て前 but you_should_consider_that it's
just a construct, it_doesn't define you, and it's not_worth killing yourself
over.

~~~
l5870uoo9y
>_Honne and tatemae are Japanese words that_describe_the contrast between a
> person's true_feelings_and desires (本音 hon'ne, "true sound")_and_the
>_behavior and opinions one displays_in public (建前 tatemae, "built in_front",
> "façade