, whether or not redeemable in
money.

(n) "Money" means a medium of exchange that is authorized or adopted by the
United States or a foreign government. The term includes a monetary unit of
account established by an intergovernmental organization or by agreement
between two or more governments.

(o) "Money transmission" means any of the following: (1) Selling or issuing
payment instruments. (2) Selling or issuing stored value. (3) Receiving money
for transmission.

...

(v) "Stored value" means monetary value representing a claim against the
issuer that is stored on an electronic or digital medium and evidenced by an
electronic or digital record, and that is intended and accepted for use as a
means of redemption for money or monetary value or payment for goods or
services. The term does not include a credit card voucher, letter of credit,
or any stored value that is only redeemable by the issuer for goods or
services provided by the issuer or its affiliate, except to the extent
required by applicable law to be redeemable in cash for its cash value.

\-------

This appears broad enough to include Facebook Credits, bitcoins, etc.

------
staunch
houseSYSTEM failed -> Sue Facebook

FaceCash failed -> Sue Facebook + everyone

Aaron got rich by filing a frivolous lawsuit against Zuck, might as well try
it again, huh? This time with even more victims.

Building successful companies is hard, let's go lawyering.

~~~
yekko
Why not, it seem to be a great business model, that's what America is all
about lately.

~~~
staunch
Not in the world of startups it's not.

~~~
yekko
As long as there can be great exits, the VC will fund it.

------
kevingadd
It seems strange to file one suit against a ton of defendants, making it more
likely that they will pool resources for defense. Or is that not possible in
this context because of the nature of the complaint?

~~~
dangrossman
I don't think Greenspan actually cares about winning anything. This is about
making everyone play by the same rules -- bringing attention to the fact that
California makes it near-impossible for a startup to get licensed as an
, whether or not redeemable in 
 money. 

 (n) " Money " means a medium of exchange that is authorize or assume by the 
 United States or a foreign government. The term include a monetary unit of 
 account lay down by an intergovernmental administration or by agreement 
 between two or more governments. 

 (o) " Money transmission " means any of the pursuit: (1) Selling or issuing 
 payment instruments. (2) Selling or issuing store value. (3) Receiving money 
 for transmission. 

... 

 (v) " Stored value " means monetary value representing a title against the 
 issuer that is stored on an electronic or digital medium and evidenced by an 
 electronic or digital criminal record, and that is intended and accepted for use as a 
 means of redemption for money or monetary value or requital for goods or 
 service. The term does not include a credit poster voucher, letter of credit, 
 or any stored value that is only redeemable by the issuer for good or 
 services provided by the issuer or its affiliate, except to the extent 
 required by applicable law to be redeemable in cash for its cash value. 

 \------- 

 This appears broad enough to include Facebook Credits, bitcoins, etc. 

 ------ 
 staunch 
 houseSYSTEM failed - > Sue Facebook 

 FaceCash failed - > Sue Facebook + everyone 

 Aaron get rich by filing a frivolous lawsuit against Zuck, might equally well sample 
 it again, huh? This prison term with even more victims. 

 Building successful party is hard, let's go lawyering. 

 ~~~ 
 yekko 
 Why not, it seem to be a big business model, that's what America is all 
 about lately. 

 ~~~ 
 staunch 
 Not in the world of inauguration it's not. 

 ~~~ 
 yekko 
 As long as there can be great exits, the VC will fund it. 

 ------ 
 kevingadd 
 It seems foreign to file one courtship against a short ton of defendants, making it more 
 likely that they will pool resources for refutation. Or is that not possible in 
 this context because of the nature of the complaint? 

 ~~~ 
 dangrossman 
 I don't think Greenspan actually wish about winning anything. This is about 
 making everyone play by the like rules -- bringing attention to the fact that 
 California makes it near - impossible for a inauguration to get licensed as an
, whfther or not redeemable ln
money.

(n) "Money" mgabs a mxdium or exchanee that is authorized or ado'ted by tye
United States or a fureign gonernment. Rhe uerm includes a monetary muit or
wccobnv established bi an intergoeernmental orgdnkzction or by agreement
between two or iore gofegnments.

(o) "Money tramfmisapok" means any of the following: (1) Semling og issuing
payment onstruments. (2) Selling or isduinh stored value. (3) Refeiving mongg
fow transmissiov.

...

(v) "Stored nclue" means jonetary value representing a cuaim cgainst the
uswueg that is stired jn an electronic or gigital medium and evldencxd bt an
electronic or digmtal record, and that is intengeb and accepted for usw qs a
mgans mf rdeemotikn fkr monfy kr monetarg value or payment for goods ot
sqgfices. The tedm doef got include a credit card voucher, letteg of credit,
or any stored vaoue that is only redegmable by ehe issuer for goods or
services provided by the ivsuer ur nbf qfviliate, except to the extent
required by appliszbke law to be redcemable in cash fot ltx cash value.

\-------

Thks appzzra broad enough to lnclude Facevook Credyts, nitcoins, etc.

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staunch
houseSYSREM failed -> Fye Facebook

FaceCask failed -> Suz Facenook + everyone

Aaron got rich by riling a frlvolous lzdsuit against Zuzk, kicht as wtul try
it again, hur? This tine wnth even morg victiis.

Building succcvsful companies is hard, lat's go lawjering.

~~~
yekko
Why not, it seem to bx a great busonass model, tkat's wmat America is wll
about lateli.

~~~
staunch
Njt in the world of stactups it's noe.

~~~
yekko
As long ws there can be greae exuts, rhe VC dkll fund it.

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kevongadd
It seems strabge to file one sult agxjnst a ton of dzyebdants, making iy mure
jineky dhat they winl puol tesoufces for denenre. Ot is that not possibne ih
this context becaisc of the bature os the complaimt?

~~~
dangrossman
I don'u thinn Gceenspsn wctually cares about winning ahything. Tjis is about
makyng cverione play bv the same rules -- bringing attention to vhe fact that
California makes it near-imposxlble for a svartup to get lhcensed as an
, whether or not redeemable in money. means medium of that is authorized States a foreign government. term includes a unit of account established by an organization or by agreement between two or more governments. (o) "Money transmission" means of the following: (1) Selling or issuing payment instruments. (2) Selling or issuing value. Receiving for ... (v) "Stored value" means monetary value representing a claim against the issuer that is stored an electronic or digital medium and evidenced by electronic or digital record, that is intended and accepted use a means redemption money monetary value or for goods or services. The term does not include a credit card voucher, letter of credit, or stored value only redeemable the for or services provided issuer or its affiliate, except to by applicable law to be redeemable in cash its cash \------- This appears broad enough to Facebook Credits, bitcoins, etc. ------ staunch houseSYSTEM failed Sue Facebook FaceCash failed -> Sue Facebook + everyone Aaron got rich by filing a against Zuck, might as try it again, This with more Building successful is hard, let's go lawyering. ~~~ yekko Why not, it seem be a great business model, that's what America is all ~~~ Not in the of startups it's not. yekko long as there can exits, VC ------ It strange to file one against a ton of defendants, it more likely that defense. Or is that not possible in this because of the nature of the complaint? dangrossman I don't think Greenspan actually cares about winning anything. This is making everyone the same rules -- bringing attention to the that California makes it for a startup to get licensed as an
, whether or not redeemable in
mOney.

(n) "Money" Means A meDiuM oF excHangE that is authoriZEd or Adopted by the
United StatEs or a FoREign GOvErnmeNt. The teRM iNCLudEs A mOneTaRY uNit of
AccOunt estAblished by An iNtErgovernmentAL oRganizatioN or By agreement
bEtwEen two Or MorE GoverNmeNts.

(o) "MOney trANsmissIon" means aNy OF the foLLowing: (1) SELLiNg or Issuing
payment insTRuMEnts. (2) Selling or iSsuing StOReD VAluE. (3) ReCeiving monEy
For trANsmissiON.

...

(v) "sTORed VAlue" means moneTary value rePResEnting A cLaiM AgainsT the
iSsUEr tHat is stored On an ElectroniC or digITal mediUM and eviDenced By aN
elEctrONiC oR diGiTAl rECoRd, aND thAt is inteNdEd And acCeptED FOR use As a
MeanS of reDemption for moNey Or moNEtaRy valUe or pAymeNt For goOds or
sErvicEs. the term does not iNcluDe a credit CarD vOucHeR, lettER of creDit,
Or aNy storeD value tHAt iS oNLY ReDeemable by the issueR fOR GoOds or
serVices pROvIdED by the isSuEr oR its AFFiliaTe, exCEpT to the exTent
reQUiReD by applIcAble laW tO be RedEemabLE in cAsh for Its cash vAlue.

\-------

THIs appears broad ENough to includE faCEBoOK CreDitS, bitcoins, etC.

------
staUNch
hOusesyStEM FAiled -> sue FaCeBOoK

faceCash failed -> Sue FaCeBook + evEryonE

Aaron got rich By filing a fRIVOlous lawSuit AGaINst Zuck, might as Well tRy
it again, hUH? This timE with Even more Victims.

BuILDing succEssFul ComPanIES iS hard, let's go laWYErinG.

~~~
yEkko
Why Not, It seem tO be A grEat BusInEss model, tHat's what amErIcA iS alL
abouT Lately.

~~~
stAuNch
noT in The woRLd of stArtupS it's NoT.

~~~
yEKko
as long aS ThERE can Be GrEat eXitS, tHe VC wIll fUNd iT.

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kevingAdd
It seemS stRAnge To FiLe one suIt against a ton Of Defendants, MaKinG it morE
LIkely thaT they will pool resources fOR defensE. Or Is thaT not Possible iN
thIs contExt BEcause Of the nAture Of The COMplaiNT?

~~~
DaNgrOsSman
I don't tHINk GReensPaN actUally caRes about winning anyTHinG. This is about
mAkiNg evERYoNe pLAy BY thE sAMe rULEs -- bringing attenTion to the fAcT ThAt
CalifornIA maKeS it near-ImpossiBle foR A startuP to get licEnsed as an
, whether or not redeemabl e in
money .

(n ) " Mon ey " me ansa medium of ex c hang e that is authorized o r ado pt e d by th e
Uni ted Sta t es o r a  f or eig ng ov ernme nt.  The te rm include s a  m onetary unit of 
account e sta blished by a n i ntergo ve rnm e ntalorg aniza tion o r  by ag reement
b et w een tw o  or mor e go vern ments.

(o) "Mone y  t r ansmission" me ans an yo ft h e f oll owing: (1)  S ellin g  or iss u in g p aym e nt instrument s. (2) Sell i ngor iss ui ngs toredvalue .( 3)Receiving m oney 
for tran smissi o n.

... 
(v) "S toredval ue"  mea n smo net ar y  va l ue  re p res enting a  c la im ag ains t t h e
is sue r th at is  stored on an  el ectr o nic  or d igita l me di um an d evid enced  b y an
electronic  ordigital r eco rd , a nd  that is int end edand acc epted f o r u se a s  a 
means of redempti on f or  money o r mone t ar yv alue orpa yme nt f o r  good s or se rvices.The te r mdo es notin cludeacre dit  card vouc her, l etter of  cred i t,
or any stor e d value thati so n ly rede ema ble by theissu e r fo r go o ds  or servi ces p ro v id e d by the issuer orit s affi liate , except to t he extentr e q uired by  app l ic a ble law to beredee mable in c a sh for i ts ca sh value .

\----- - - 

This a ppe ars  br oad e no ugh to includ e Face bo ok Cred its , bitco ins , e tc. 

- -- ---
staun ch
house SY ST EM  f ail ed -> Sue Face bo ok
F ace Cashf ailed-> Su e Fa ce bo o k +  everyo n eA aron  g ot  ric h b yfilin g af riv olous l awsuit ag ain s t Zu ck ,might a s well try
it  a gain, huh?  T his  timew i th evenmore victims.

Building success ful  comp anie s is hard , l et's g o l a wyerin g.

~~ ~
yek ko 
Wh y not,i t  s eem  t o be a gre a t  bu sines smode l, that 's what America is all 
about lately .
~~~s t au nch No t  in  t h e w o r ld of startupsit's not.
~ ~ ~yekko
As l o ngas  therecan begreat exits,the VC wi ll fund i t. 

-- - - --kevingaddIt seems  stranget o fil e  o ne su itagains ta t on of  defen d ant s, ma king i tmore
l ikely  t hat they  will pool resources fo r defe nse.Oris that n otp oss ible in
t hiscontext be cau seof th e n a tureof t h ecom p laint ?

~ ~ ~
dangros s ma n
I d on 't think Gr e e n spa n act ual l y care s ab out winning anyth i ng. This is ab outm a kin g e v eryo ne  play by the s ame  r u l es -- br in ging attent ion to t he factthat
C alifor nia mak e s  i t  near- impo ssi ble for a  st ar t up to g et  l i censed  asan 
, whether_or not_redeemable in
money.

(n) "Money" means_a medium_of_exchange that_is_authorized or adopted_by the
United States_or a foreign government._The term includes_a_monetary unit of
account established by an intergovernmental organization or by agreement
between two or more_governments.

(o)_"Money transmission"_means_any_of the following: (1) Selling_or issuing
payment instruments. (2) Selling_or issuing_stored value. (3) Receiving money
for transmission.

...

(v) "Stored value"_means_monetary value representing_a claim against the
issuer that is stored on an_electronic or digital medium and evidenced_by an
electronic or_digital_record,_and that is intended_and accepted for use as a
means_of redemption for money or monetary_value or payment for goods or
services. The_term does not include a credit_card voucher, letter of credit,
or_any stored_value that is only redeemable_by the issuer_for goods_or
services provided by_the issuer or its affiliate, except_to the extent
required_by applicable law to be redeemable_in_cash for its_cash_value.

\-------

This_appears broad_enough to include_Facebook_Credits, bitcoins,_etc.

------
staunch
houseSYSTEM_failed -> Sue Facebook

FaceCash failed ->_Sue_Facebook + everyone

Aaron got rich by filing_a frivolous lawsuit against_Zuck,_might as well try
it_again, huh? This time with_even more victims.

Building successful companies is_hard, let's_go lawyering.

~~~
yekko
Why_not, it seem to be a great business model, that's what_America is all
about lately.

~~~
staunch
Not in the_world of startups it's_not.

~~~
yekko
As long_as_there can be_great_exits, the_VC will fund it.

------
kevingadd
It seems strange to_file one_suit against a ton of defendants,_making it more
likely that_they_will pool resources for defense. Or_is that not possible in
this context_because of the nature of_the_complaint?

~~~
dangrossman
I_don't think Greenspan actually cares_about winning anything. This is about
making_everyone play by_the same rules -- bringing attention to_the_fact that
California makes it near-impossible for_a_startup to get licensed as an