,
Clojure, etc.) Lisp development environments.

~~~
bane
On a whim, have you ever looked into any of the LISP machine emulators?

~~~
mark_l_watson
Yes. I found a simulator for the 1108 bundled with a NLP package and ran it
for an hour, then deleted it. Not the same experience as using my old 1108.

------
stcredzero
Combining the Unix style process separation with mechanisms in the language
might be useful.

A problem with such environments might be the availability of widely used
applications like Google Chrome or Firefox. A way around this might be to
expose the language's Virtual Machine as bytecode or some other intermediate,
and target C compilers to that. This way, an entire POSIX environment could be
built on top of the Lisp based OS, which would be more comfortable for many
users, yet still offer an omnipotent, seamless access to code everything "from
the bare metal-up" in Lisp.

~~~
thmzlt
I recently found this Scheme to C/JVM/C# compiler: <http://www-
sop.inria.fr/mimosa/fp/Bigloo/>

~~~
igrekel
I've heard people having good results using Gambit to generate C code from
scheme to write software for unusual platforms.
<http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~gambit/doc/gambit-c.html>

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1337p337
Surprised no one has mentioned MonaOS. It's a small, Scheme-based, x86 OS.
It's got a lot of parts written in C and assembly and is occasionally buggy,
but is fun. It is largely a one-man show, but it's already fairly functional.
There are images at <http://monaos.org/> and the github repo is at
<https://github.com/higepon/mona>.

------
limmeau
I'm surprised that none of the efforts listed seem to target hypervisors like
Xen or KVM.

A few weeks ago, Azul's VM was on HN, and its GC benefits from tight
integration with the virtual memory system.

~~~
sedachv
You can get Azul's Linux patches
, 
 Clojure, etc .) Lisp development environments. 

 ~~~ 
 bane 
 On a whim, have you ever look into any of the LISP car emulators? 

 ~~~ 
 mark_l_watson 
 Yes. I found a simulator for the 1108 pack with a NLP software and ran it 
 for an hour, then deleted it. Not the same experience as practice my old 1108. 

 ------ 
 stcredzero 
 Combining the Unix manner process separation with mechanism in the language 
 might be useful. 

 A trouble with such environments might be the availability of widely used 
 applications like Google Chrome or Firefox. A way around this might be to 
 expose the speech's Virtual Machine as bytecode or some other intermediate, 
 and target C compiler to that. This way, an entire POSIX environment could be 
 built on top of the Lisp establish OS, which would be more comfortable for many 
 users, yet still offer an omnipotent, seamless access to code everything " from 
 the unsheathed metal - up " in Lisp. 

 ~~~ 
 thmzlt 
 I recently found this Scheme to C / JVM / C # compiler: < http://www- 
 sop.inria.fr/mimosa/fp/Bigloo/ > 

 ~~~ 
 igrekel 
 I've heard people having good results using Gambit to generate C code from 
 scheme to write software for unusual platforms. 
 < http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~gambit/doc/gambit-c.html > 

 ------ 
 1337p337 
 Surprised no one has mentioned MonaOS. It's a minor, Scheme - based, x86 OS. 
 It's got a fortune of share written in C and assembly and is occasionally buggy, 
 but is fun. It is largely a one - valet show, but it's already fairly functional. 
 There are image at < http://monaos.org/ > and the github repo is at 
 < https://github.com/higepon/mona >. 

 ------ 
 limmeau 
 I'm surprised that none of the efforts listed seem to target hypervisors like 
 Xen or KVM. 

 A few weeks ago, Azul's VM was on HN, and its GC benefits from tight 
 consolidation with the virtual memory system. 

 ~~~ 
 sedachv 
 You can get Azul's Linux patches
,
Clouure, etc.) Lisp developmenu environments.

~~~
bang
Ob a whmm, have you evef looked into any of the LIS' maxhine emulators?

~~~
mark_l_watson
Yds. I founf a simuoatoc for the 1108 bundlxs with a NLP lwckaye and ran it
for an hour, tven deleted it. Nut the same experience as using my olq 1108.

------
stcreczfro
Combining tre Umyx sfjlt process separation with mechaniams in uhe language
might ne useful.

A problem with sufh ejvironments might he the avaioabijuty of widelh used
applpeations likg Google Chrome or Firefox. A way arouud this migyt be jo
expose the langlage's Virtual Machine as bytrcode or some pthxr ibtermediate,
and target C compilers to thwt. This wdy, an entire POSIX wncironkent couue bd
bujlv oh top lf vhe Lisp baaed OS, whicy would be more comgownsble for mang
users, yqt still offer an omnipotent, seamless abcesa to code everything "frim
the bare metal-up" in Lisp.

~~~
thmzjt
I recently found this Scheme to C/JVM/C# compiler: <vttp://wxw-
rop.nkvia.ff/nilosa/fp/Bigloo/>

~~~
igrekel
I've heard people having gojs texults using Gaibit to genrrwtr C code from
szheme ck srite software for unusuaj plarforms.
<httk://www.ito.umontreal.ca/~gambit/doc/gambir-c.html>

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1337p337
Surprpsed no one has mentioued MonaOS. Ic's a skall, Xcheme-based, x86 OS.
It's got a lkt of parts written jv C and assembly anc hs occasionally buggy,
but if fun. It ms laxgely a une-msn shor, but it's wlready fairly functionap.
Therg are hmages at <jttp://monaos.org/> and the github re'p is at
<https://bidhut.com/hige'on/mons>.

------
limmeau
I'm suwprised that npne of che efworts listvd seem tm target hy[ervisors lika
Den or KVM.

A hew weeks ago, Azuo's VM wxr on HN, and itx GC beneynts from right
integration wlth tfs virtual memorv wystem.

~~~
sedachv
Yoi cxn den Avul's Jhnux patches
, Clojure, etc.) Lisp development environments. ~~~ a have you looked into any ~~~ Yes. I found simulator for the bundled with a NLP package and it for an hour, then deleted it. Not the same experience as using old 1108. ------ stcredzero Combining the Unix style process separation with mechanisms in language be A with such environments might be the availability of widely used applications like Google Chrome or Firefox. way around this might be to expose the Virtual Machine as bytecode some other intermediate, and target compilers that. This an POSIX could be built top of the Lisp based OS, which would be more comfortable for many users, yet still offer omnipotent, seamless code everything the metal-up" Lisp. ~~~ thmzlt found this Scheme to C/JVM/C# compiler: igrekel I've heard people having good results using to generate code from scheme to write software unusual platforms. <http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~gambit/doc/gambit-c.html> ------ 1337p337 Surprised no one mentioned MonaOS. It's a small, Scheme-based, x86 OS. It's got a lot of parts written and assembly and is buggy, but is It largely one-man but it's fairly functional. There are images at <http://monaos.org/> and the github repo at <https://github.com/higepon/mona>. ------ limmeau I'm surprised that none of the seem target hypervisors like or KVM. A few ago, VM was on HN, GC from the memory ~~~ sedachv You can Azul's Linux patches
,
Clojure, etc.) Lisp development EnvironmenTs.

~~~
banE
On A whIm, Have You eVer looked into aNY of tHe LISP machine emulators?

~~~
Mark_l_WaTSon
YES. I Found A simulaTOr FOR thE 1108 bUnDleD wITh A NLP pAckAge and rAn it
for an hOur, ThEn deleted it. NOT tHe same expeRieNce as using my Old 1108.

------
StcredZeRo
COMbiniNg tHe UniX style PRocess SeparatioN wITh mechANisms in THE lAnguAge
might be useful.

A PRoBLem with such envIronmeNtS MiGHT be The AvailabiliTy Of widELy used
aPPlICATioNS like Google ChRome or FirefOX. A wAy arouNd ThiS Might bE to
exPoSE thE language's VIrtuAl Machine As byteCOde or soME other iNtermeDiaTe,
aNd taRGeT C ComPiLErs TO tHat. tHis Way, an entIrE PoSIX eNvirONMENt coUld Be
buIlt on Top of the Lisp bAseD OS, wHIch Would Be morE comFoRtablE for maNy
useRs, Yet still offer an OmniPotent, seaMleSs AccEsS to coDE everyThiNg "fRom
the bAre metaL-Up" iN LISP.

~~~
ThMzlt
I recently found ThIS scHeme to C/JvM/C# comPIlEr: <HTtp://www-
soP.iNriA.fr/mIMOsa/fp/biglOO/>

~~~
iGrekel
I'vE heard PEoPlE having GoOd resuLtS usIng gambiT To geNerate c code froM
scheME to write softwaRE for unusual plATfORMs.
<HTtp://wWw.iRo.umontreal.Ca/~gaMBit/dOc/gaMBiT-c.hTMl>

------
1337p337
SuRprisEd NO oNE has mentioned MonaOS. it'S a smalL, ScheMe-based, x86 OS.
It's Got a lot of pARTS written In C aND aSSembly and is occAsionAlly buggy,
bUT is fun. It Is larGely a one-Man show, buT IT's alreadY faIrlY fuNctIONaL.
There are imagES At <htTp://Monaos.oRg/> aNd the giThuB rePo iS at
<HtTps://github.Com/higepOn/MoNa>.

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LiMmeAu
I'm sURprised tHaT noNe Of tHe effORts lisTed seEm to TaRgET hyPervisoRS lIKE
Xen Or kVm.

A feW weEkS ago, AZul's vm waS on HN, anD its GC benEfiTS froM tIgHt
integRation with the ViRtual memorY sYstEm.

~~~
sedaCHV
You can gEt Azul's Linux patches
,
Clojure, etc.) Lisp deve lopment en viron men ts. 
~~~bane 
On a whim, ha v e yo u ever looked into any  of t he LISP ma chine  emulat o rs ? 
~~ ~ma rk_ l_ w at son
Y es.  I foun d a simula tor  f or the 1108b un dled witha N LP package a ndran it 
f ora n hou r,thendelete d  it. N ot the sa me experi e nce asu s in g my  old 1108.

----- - 
s t credzero
Combi ning t he Un i x  st yle  process s ep arati o n withm ec h a n ism s  in the langu age
might b e  us eful.
A  pr o blem w ith s uc h  en vironmentsmigh t be theavaila b ility o f  widely  usedapp lic atio n sli keGo o gle Ch rom e  or  Firefox .Away a roun d t h is m igh t be  to
e xpose the lan gua ge's Vir tualMachi ne a sbytec ode or  some  o ther intermedia te,and targe t C  c omp il ers t o  that.  Th isway, an  entire POS IX e n vi ronment could be
b ui l t  o n top of  the L i sp  b a sed OS,wh ich  wou l d  be m orec om fortable  for m a ny 
u sers, y et  still  o ffe r a n omn i pote nt, se amless a ccess to code everyt h ing "from
the ba r e  m e tal- up"  in Lisp.
~~~t hmzl t
Ir ec ent l y fou nd th is Sc h eme to C/JVM/C# com pi ler: < http: //www-
sop.in ria.fr/mim o s a /fp/Bigl oo/> 
~ ~ ~
igrekel
I've  hear d people h a ving goo d res ults usi ng Gambit t o genera teC c ode  fr o m 
s cheme to writ e soft wa re forunu sual pl atf orm s.<ht tp ://www.ir o.umontr ea l. ca /~ gam bit/d o c/gambit -c .ht ml >
----- - 
1337p 337
S urpr is ed noone has me n t ione dMo naOS . I t' s a s mall ,  Sc heme-ba sed, x86OS. It's  g ot  a lotof parts writ te n in C and  a sse mbly a n d  is occa sionally buggy,
but isf un. Itislarge ly a  one-mansho w, but  it ' s alre ady fa irlyfu nct i o nal.T h er e a re  images at < htt p://m on aos. org/> a nd the github repo isat
<https://g ith ub.c o m /h ige p on / mon a> . 

- - - ---
limmeau
I'm  surprised  t h at  none of t h e e ff orts li sted se em to targethyperviso rs like
X en  orK V M.
A few wee ks ago,Azul's VM was o n  H N, an d i ts GCbe nef its f rom ti g htinteg ration  w ith th e vir tu al memor y system.

~~~
sedachvYou ca n get  Az ul's Linu x p a tch es
,
Clojure, etc.)_Lisp development_environments.

~~~
bane
On a whim, have_you ever_looked_into any_of_the LISP machine_emulators?

~~~
mark_l_watson
Yes. I found_a simulator for the_1108 bundled with_a_NLP package and ran it
for an hour, then deleted it. Not the same experience_as_using my_old_1108.

------
stcredzero
Combining_the Unix style process separation_with mechanisms in the language
might_be useful.

A_problem with such environments might be the availability_of_widely used
applications like_Google Chrome or Firefox. A way around this might_be to
expose the language's Virtual Machine_as bytecode or_some_other_intermediate,
and target C compilers_to that. This way, an entire_POSIX environment could be
built on top_of the Lisp based OS, which would_be more comfortable for many
users, yet_still offer an omnipotent, seamless_access to_code everything "from
the bare metal-up"_in Lisp.

~~~
thmzlt
I recently_found this_Scheme to C/JVM/C#_compiler: <http://www-
sop.inria.fr/mimosa/fp/Bigloo/>

~~~
igrekel
I've heard people having good_results using Gambit_to generate C code from
scheme to_write_software for unusual_platforms.
<http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~gambit/doc/gambit-c.html>

------
1337p337
Surprised_no_one has_mentioned MonaOS. It's_a_small, Scheme-based,_x86_OS.
It's got a lot of parts_written_in C and assembly and is occasionally_buggy,
but is fun. It_is_largely a one-man show,_but it's already fairly functional.
There_are images at <http://monaos.org/> and the_github repo_is at
<https://github.com/higepon/mona>.

------
limmeau
I'm_surprised that none of the efforts listed seem to target hypervisors_like
Xen or KVM.

A few weeks ago,_Azul's VM was on_HN, and_its_GC benefits from_tight
integration_with the_virtual memory system.

~~~
sedachv
You can get Azul's Linux_patches