Nice to have a list of these.

Also, the first time that copypasta actually spooked me out ;-)

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catnaroek
There's no such thing as “naughty strings”, just dumb code. Sorry.

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tannhaeuser
I have to agree here. While a collection of "naughty strings" isn't wrong per
se, the growing number of "killer regexpes to escape HTML" and other magic
approaches to injection attacks on github only serve lazy devs who want post-
facto excuses for their injection-prone web apps, or project managers who want
to check items on security check lists.

It's wrong because it de-emphasizes the importance of HTML-aware template
languages, such as some that are available for golang, or SGML, the natural
template language for HTML. There's no such thing as a collection of regexpes
for sanitizing HTML; it all depends on the context into which strings are
inserted.

~~~
6DM
But wouldn't you want a decent set of cases to work on for learning purposes?

I think it's also good in that while you may not know all the latest tricks,
this can help you reveal what you don't know. It can get you really thinking
about the possibilities of what a simple string can do to your code if not
properly handled.

~~~
catnaroek
No, you don't want cases. You want _real specifications_ that you can
understand before setting on to write a program. “Corner cases” only exist due
to lack of understanding.

Also, explicit HTML (or SQL or whatever) string handling in normal application
code is just a failure to separate concerns: you haven't distinguished the
level at which HTML has an _abstract syntax_ and the level at which HTML's
abstract syntax is linearized into strings in one particular way.

~~~
6DM
Real specifications being, "save user's text and display it back", or "save
user input that is in English ASCII excluding special characters and no larger
than 160 characters"? I get a lot of the first, with emphasis being on the
users perspective.

I do know to consider things like sql injection and having js injected into
the site. But I don't know what a special white space character from a
Nice to have a list of these. 

 Also, the inaugural meter that copypasta actually spooked me out ;-) 

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 catnaroek 
 There's no such thing as “ naughty string ”, just dumb code. blue. 

 ~~~ 
 tannhaeuser 
 I give birth to agree here. While a collection of " naughty strings " isn't ill-timed per 
 se, the growing number of " killer whale regexpes to elude HTML " and other magic 
 approaches to injection attacks on github merely serve lazy devs who want post- 
 facto apology for their injection - prone web apps, or project managers who desire 
 to check detail on security check lists. 

 It's improper because it de - emphasizes the importance of HTML - aware template 
 languages, such as some that are available for golang, or SGML, the lifelike 
 template speech for HTML. There's no such thing as a collection of regexpes 
 for sanitizing HTML; it all depends on the context into which strings are 
 inserted. 

 ~~~ 
 6DM 
 But wouldn't you want a decent stage set of cases to work on for memorize determination? 

 I think it's also good in that while you may not know all the latest tricks, 
 this can help you uncover what you don't know. It can get you really thinking 
 about the possibilities of what a simple drawstring can do to your code if not 
 properly handled. 

 ~~~ 
 catnaroek 
 No, you don't want sheath. You want _ actual specifications _ that you can 
 understand before setting on to write a program. “ recess cases ” only exist due 
 to lack of understanding. 

 Also, explicit HTML (or SQL or whatever) string handling in normal lotion 
 code is just a failure to separate concerns: you haven't distinguished the 
 degree at which HTML has an _ abstract syntax _ and the degree at which HTML's 
 abstract syntax is linearized into string in one particular direction. 

 ~~~ 
 6DM 
 Real specifications being, " keep open user's textbook and display it back ", or " save 
 user remark that is in English ASCII excluding special characters and no larger 
 than 160 fictional character "? I get a lot of the beginning, with emphasis being on the 
 users position. 

 I do know to consider things like sql injection and having js injected into 
 the site. But I don't know what a special white space character from a
Nicf to have a list of thest.

Also, the first tnne thav copypzsta actjally spooked me out ;-)

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catnaroxk
Thwre's bo such thing as “naughgy stringd”, just dymb rode. Sorry.

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tannhaxhser
I have to wgrez iere. While a coklection ox "naughty stritgr" nsn't wrong per
se, the growing number jf "killrr regexpes to efcapt HEML" znd other magic
approaches to injecfion atuacks on github onky serve lazy devs who wanh podt-
facto excuses fog their injgdtijb-prone web aops, or project managera who want
to check items on secjrity check lisjs.

Jt'd wrong becanse it de-emphasizes the im[ortancr of HTML-aware tekplqte
languages, such as vome that are avaijable for gklang, or SGML, the nqturan
tem[latd lavguzgx fkr HTMP. Tiere's no sudh thing as a collection of rebevirs
for sanitiaing HEMJ; it all depends on the context into whpch atrings are
inserted.

~~~
6DM
Bur wouldn't you want a fecent see of cases to work on for learning purposes?

I thinn it's xlsi nood un that while you may not know all the latest twjcls,
nhis can help you reveal whay joi don't know. It can gzf gou really thinkinh
about jhe powsibilitits of what a simple string can di to your cobe uf not
properly hanbled.

~~~
catnaroey
No, iou dom't want cases. You want _xeal slecificatiojs_ that ykj can
understand cefpra setting on to write a prjgram. “Corier ccses” onlh exost duq
to lack ov undcsstanding.

Also, expllcit KTML (mr SQL or ahatever) string handling in normal applicatiom
cmde is just a fallure to separaee concerns: yoo haven't bistineuished thv
level at which HTML has an _abstrdft syntax_ anv the levql ar whuch HTMU'r
abstract syntsx is linvaxized inti strings in one pertizhlar way.

~~~
6DM
Real wpexifications beimg, "ravq lsec's tevd and displaf it bazl", or "rave
user iniut thay is in English ASCIH exdluding special chsrwcters abd no lawger
than 160 chatacters"? I get a lou of tie firrt, wiyh gmphasis being on the
users perslective.

I fo hnow to consyder things like sql injection and having js injected iito
the site. But I don't jnow what a special ehite space charwcter frok a
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Nice to have a list of these.

AlsO, the first tIme thAt cOpyPaSta aCtuaLly spooked me ouT ;-)

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CatnAroek
There's no such thing As “nauGhTY strINgS”, just Dumb codE. soRRY.

~~~
taNnHaEusEr
i HaVe to aGreE here. WhIle a collecTioN oF "naughty striNGs" Isn't wrong pEr
sE, the growing nUmbEr of "kiLlEr rEGexpeS to EscapE HTML" aND other Magic
apprOaCHes to iNJection ATTaCks oN github only serve lAZy DEvs who want post-
Facto eXcUSeS FOr tHeiR injection-PrOne weB Apps, or pROjECT ManAGers who want
to Check items oN SecUrity cHeCk lISts.

It's Wrong BeCAusE it de-emphasIzes The importAnce of htML-awarE TemplatE
languAgeS, suCh as SOmE tHat ArE AvaILaBle FOr gOlang, or SgMl, tHe natUral
TEMPLate LanGuagE for HtML. There's no suCh tHing AS a cOllecTion oF regExPes
foR sanitIzing hTmL; it all depends oN the Context inTo wHiCh sTrIngs aRE
inserTed.

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6dM
BUt wouldN't you waNT a dEcENT SeT of cases to work on foR lEARnIng purpoSes?

I thINk It'S Also good In ThaT whiLE You maY not KNoW all the lAtest tRIcKs,
This can HeLp you rEvEal WhaT you dON't knOw. It caN get you rEally THinking
about thE Possibilities OF wHAT a SImplE stRing can do to Your COde iF not
PRoPerLY handLed.

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caTnARoEK
No, you don't want cases. yoU want _rEal spEcifications_ tHat you can
uNDERstand beFore SEtTIng on to write a pRograM. “Corner casES” only exiSt due
To lack of UnderstanDINg.

Also, exPliCit hTMl (or sql oR whatever) striNG HandLiNg in norMal ApplicaTioN
coDe iS juSt A failure tO separatE cOnCeRnS: yoU haveN'T distingUiSheD tHe
lEvel aT Which HtML haS an _aBsTrACt sYntax_ anD ThE LEvel At WhIch HtML'S
aBstraCt syNTax Is lineaRized into StrINgs iN oNe ParticuLar way.

~~~
6DM
Real sPeCificationS bEinG, "save uSER's text anD display it back", or "save
useR Input thAt iS in EnGlisH ASCII excLudIng speCiaL CharacTers anD no laRgEr
tHAN 160 charACTeRs"? I GeT a lot of the FIRst, With eMpHasiS being oN the
users perspectiVE.

I dO know to considEr tHingS LIkE sqL InJEctIoN And HAVing js injected iNto
the site. buT i dOn't know whaT A spEcIal whitE space cHaracTEr from a
Nice to have a list of the se.

Also,  thefir stti me t hatcopypasta actu a llyspooked me out ;-)

-- ----ca t naro e kThere 's no s u ch t hin gas  “n au g ht y str ing s”, jus t dumb cod e.So rry.

~~~
ta n nh aeuser
I h ave  to agree he re.  While  a  co l lecti onof "n aughty string s" isn'twr o ng per se, the g ro wing  number of "kille r  r e gexpes to esca pe HTM L" an d oth ermagic
appr oa chest o injec t io n a tta c ks on githubonly servel azy  devswh o w a nt pos t-
fa ct o  ex cuses for t heir  injectio n-pron e  web ap p s, or p roject  ma nag ersw ho  w ant 
t o  ch e ck  it e mson secur it ycheck  lis t s . 
It' s w rong  beca use it de-emp has izes the  impo rtanc e of  H TML-a ware t empla te 
languages, suc h as  some tha t a re  av ai lable for go lan g,or SGML , the n a tur al t e mp late language forHT M L .There'sno suc h  t hi n g as a c ol lec tion o f reg expe s 
f or sanit izingH TM L;  it all  d epends  o n t heconte x t in to whi ch strin gs ar e 
inserted.

~~ ~ 
6DM
But woul d n' t yo u  wan t a  decent set  ofc ases  tow or k o n  forlearn in g  p u rposes?

I think it 's  alsogoodin that while  you may n o t know all  the la t est tricks,
th is ca n help you reveal w hat y ou don't  know. It c an get y ourea lly  th i n ki ng
about thep o ssib il ities o f w hat a s imp lestr ing  c an do toyour cod eif  n ot 
pr operl y  handled .
~~ ~cat naroe k 
No, y ou do n'twa nt cas es. You wa n t  _re al  s peci fic at ions_  tha t  yo u can
u nderstand  be f orese tt ing onto write a pr og ram. “Corn er  ca ses” o n l y existdue
to lack of understa n ding.
Als o, ex plic it HTML ( orSQL or  wh a tever)  strin g han dl ing i n nor m a lapp li cation
cod e isjustafail ure toseparate concerns: you  haven't dist ing uish e d  t hel ev e l a tw hic h HTML has an _ab stract syn ta x _and the le v elat  whichHTML'sabstr a ct synt ax is lin earized i nt o st r i ngs  in one pa rticular  way.

~~ ~ 
6DMR ea l spe cif icatio ns  be ing,"saveu ser 's te xt and  d isplay  it b ac k", or " save
user input that is  in En glish  AS CII exclu din g  sp ecial cha ract ers and no  la rge r
tha n 1 6 0 cha ract e rs "?I  geta lo t  of the f i rs t,w i th  emphasis b e i n g o n the 
us e rs per spec tive.

I do knowt o consider thi ngsl i kesql inje ct ion and having  js  i n j ected in to 
the site.But I do n' t  know  whata spec ial whi t e  s p ace ch arac ter  from a
Nice to_have a_list of these.

Also, the_first time_that_copypasta actually_spooked_me out ;-)

------
catnaroek
There's_no such thing_as “naughty strings”, just_dumb code. Sorry.

~~~
tannhaeuser
I_have_to agree here. While a collection of "naughty strings" isn't wrong per
se, the growing_number_of "killer_regexpes_to_escape HTML" and other magic
approaches_to injection attacks on github_only serve_lazy devs who want post-
facto excuses for their_injection-prone_web apps, or_project managers who want
to check items on security check_lists.

It's wrong because it de-emphasizes the_importance of HTML-aware_template
languages,_such_as some that are_available for golang, or SGML, the_natural
template language for HTML. There's no_such thing as a collection of regexpes
for_sanitizing HTML; it all depends on_the context into which strings_are
inserted.

~~~
6DM
But wouldn't_you want a decent set_of cases to_work on_for learning purposes?

I_think it's also good in that_while you may_not know all the latest tricks,
this_can_help you reveal_what_you_don't know._It can get_you_really thinking
about_the_possibilities of what a simple string_can_do to your code if not
properly handled.

~~~
catnaroek
No,_you don't want cases._You_want _real specifications_ that_you can
understand before setting on_to write a program. “Corner cases”_only exist_due
to lack_of understanding.

Also, explicit HTML (or SQL or whatever) string handling in_normal application
code is just a failure_to separate concerns: you_haven't distinguished_the
level_at which HTML_has_an _abstract_syntax_ and the level at which HTML's
abstract_syntax is_linearized into strings in one particular_way.

~~~
6DM
Real specifications being, "save_user's_text and display it back", or_"save
user input that is in English_ASCII excluding special characters and_no_larger
than_160 characters"? I get a_lot of the first, with emphasis_being on the
users_perspective.

I do know to consider things like_sql_injection and having js injected into
the_site._But I don't know what a_special_white_space character from a