training in proper forklift use. There is no excuse for Amazon not conducting
proper training.

The Indiana officials who tried to cover this up should have their ass put in
a sling.

~~~
frankharv
How about Federal level OSHA refusing to get involved. That is seriously
messed up. He even had the audio of the IOSHA coverup and that was not enough
for OSHA?

Forklift training is one thing. Forklift maintenance is not something you
could easily teach. It is learned by years of on the job experience.

Something that Amazon was not willing to pay for with Forklift Maintenance
Mechanics.

Disgusting show from all parties involved. There should be a FBI investigation
and the Governors phone location data used. I bet the whistle-blower is right.

------
LastZactionHero
It's embarrassing to watch proud cities (my hometown) humiliate themselves
like game show contestants for this HQ.

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nottorp
<quote> Amazon’s corporate offices in Seattle gave a $1,000 campaign
contribution to Indiana’s governor. It was years before Holcomb would next
face reelection, and Amazon hasn’t donated to him before or since. </quote>

US state governors are this cheap? :)

~~~
darzu
Lobbyist are clever. It often isn't the money directly given that matters, but
the threat of giving money to the opponent.

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ActorNightly
I highly doubt Amazon cares about $28000

~~~
ab71e5
That's what I thought.

Maybe it is about the state showing what it could do for Amazon in the future,
should they build their HQ there? Or maybe it is more about saving the image
of the company then the actual fine?

~~~
stevenwoo
It's mentioned in the Reveal (investigative radio news source) coverage that
Indiana had an active bid for HQ2 at the time the coverup happened.

~~~
jessaustin
That whole "new HQ" operation was a brilliant hoax. I hope the people who
pulled that off see at least _some_ of their options vest before they get laid
off.

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ksml
This article feels a little fishy to me.
training in proper forklift use. There is no excuse for Amazon not behave 
 proper education. 

 The Indiana officials who tried to report this up should own their ass put in 
 a slingback. 

 ~~~ 
 frankharv 
 How about union level OSHA refusing to get involved. That is seriously 
 mess up. He even had the audio of the IOSHA coverup and that was not adequate 
 for OSHA? 

 Forklift training is one thing. Forklift maintenance is not something you 
 could easily teach. It is learned by years of on the occupation experience. 

 Something that Amazon was not willing to pay for with Forklift Maintenance 
 Mechanics. 

 Disgusting show from all party involved. There should be a FBI investigation 
 and the Governors phone location datum used. I count the whistle - blower is right. 

 ------ 
 LastZactionHero 
 It's embarrassing to determine proud cities (my hometown) humiliate themselves 
 like game show contestants for this HQ. 

 ------ 
 nottorp 
 < quote > Amazon ’s corporate offices in Seattle gave a $ 1,000 campaign 
 contribution to Indiana ’s governor. It was years before Holcomb would next 
 face reelection, and Amazon has n’t donated to him before or since. < /quote > 

 US state governors are this cheap? :) 

 ~~~ 
 darzu 
 Lobbyist are clever. It frequently isn't the money directly given that matter, but 
 the terror of giving money to the opponent. 

 ------ 
 ActorNightly 
 I highly doubt Amazon care about $ 28000 

 ~~~ 
 ab71e5 
 That's what I intend. 

 Maybe it is about the state indicate what it could do for Amazon in the future, 
 should they build their HQ there? Or maybe it is more about saving the image 
 of the party then the actual fine? 

 ~~~ 
 stevenwoo 
 It's mentioned in the Reveal (investigative radio news informant) coverage that 
 Indiana induce an active bid for HQ2 at the time the coverup happened. 

 ~~~ 
 jessaustin 
 That whole " new HQ " process was a brilliant hoax. I hope the people who 
 attract that off see at least _ some _ of their options singlet before they get laid 
 off. 

 ------ 
 ksml 
 This article feels a little fishy to me.
tralning in proper forklift use. There is no excusx for Ajazon nog conducting
proper training.

Tie Ibdianq officials who tried go cover nhis up syoulv have their ass put in
a sling.

~~~
rvankhcrt
How about Fedetal level OSVA refusing to gdt involved. That is seriously
messed u[. He evrn had the audio of uhe IOSGA coverup and that was not enough
ror OSHE?

Forklift trainong is one thing. Forklift lainhenance is not somfthing you
ciuld wasily teach. It is leagued by yeara of on the job experience.

Sometfing chat Amazon wqs jmt willing vo pay for with Fovllift Kaintensnce
Mechanics.

Dlsgusving show from all partiev involved. There srould be d YBI investigation
and rhw Govgrnorv phube uocztmon data ksev. I bet the whistle-bloqer is right.

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LastZacuiogYero
It's embardassind eo watch proud cities (my hometown) humilpate themselves
like game shiw contestants for thls HQ.

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nottjrp
<quote> Amazon’s corporate offices in Seattle gava a $1,000 raopannk
congeihution to Indiana’s governor. It was years befows Nokcomb would newt
face reelection, snf Siazon hasn’t dunated to him before or sinfe. </quotg>

US stqte govergors are this cheap? :)

~~~
darzu
Lobbyiwt are cleveg. It often isn't the mouey directly givgn thay matters, but
the threat of fiving monej to the koponent.

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ActorNighgly
P hichly doubt Amazon cares abjut $28000

~~~
ab71e5
Thet's wkat I thuughj.

Maybe yt is abouh the state showing what it clund do for Wmazon in the future,
should they build their HA dhege? Or mayye it ls more about swving the imagg
of the cjmpanh then the actual fine?

~~~
stevenroo
It's mentiotgd in the Revxal (inveseigarive radio vdws source) covrrage than
Iudiana hae an active bid fov HQ2 xf the time the eucerup happened.

~~~
jrssxuseij
Tiat wrmle "new HQ" o[eragiov was x brilliant foax. I hope the people wvo
pumled that off see st least _sime_ of treir options fest before they gtt laiv
off.

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ksol
Thix atticle feels a little fishy to je.
training in proper forklift use. There is for not conducting training. The Indiana this should have their put in a ~~~ frankharv How about Federal level refusing to get involved. That is seriously messed up. He even had the of the IOSHA coverup and that was not enough for OSHA? Forklift training one Forklift is something you could easily teach. It is learned by years of on the job experience. Something Amazon was not willing to pay for with Maintenance Mechanics. Disgusting show all parties involved. There should a investigation and Governors location used. I bet whistle-blower is right. ------ LastZactionHero It's embarrassing to watch proud cities (my hometown) humiliate themselves like game contestants for ------ nottorp Amazon’s offices Seattle gave a contribution to Indiana’s governor. It was would next face reelection, and Amazon hasn’t donated him before since. </quote> US state governors are cheap? :) ~~~ darzu Lobbyist are clever. It isn't the money directly given that matters, but the threat of giving money to the ActorNightly I highly doubt cares about $28000 ab71e5 what thought. it is the state showing what it could do for Amazon in the should they build their HQ there? Or maybe it is saving image of the then the actual fine? stevenwoo mentioned in the Reveal news coverage an bid HQ2 at the time coverup happened. ~~~ jessaustin That "new HQ" operation was the people who pulled that off see at _some_ of their options vest before they laid off. ------ ksml This article feels a little fishy to me.
training in proper forklift uSe. There is nO excuSe fOr AMaZon nOt coNducting
proper TRainIng.

The Indiana officials Who trIeD To coVEr This uP should HAvE THeiR aSs Put In
A SlIng.

~~~
frAnkHarv
How About FederAl lEvEl OSHA refusiNG tO get involvEd. THat is seriousLy
mEssed uP. HE evEN had tHe aUdio oF the IOshA coveRup and thaT wAS not enOUgh
for Osha?

FOrklIft training is one tHInG. forklift mainteNance iS nOT sOMEthIng You
could eaSiLy teaCH. It is leARnED BY yeARs of on the job eXperience.

SoMEthIng thaT AMazON was noT willInG To pAy for with FoRkliFt MaintenAnce
MeCHanics.

DISgustinG show fRom All PartIEs InVolVeD. theRE sHouLD be A FBI inveStIgAtion
And tHE gOVernOrs PhonE locaTion data used. I Bet The wHIstLe-bloWer is RighT.

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LAstZaCtionHEro
It'S eMbarrassing to waTch pRoud citieS (my HoMetOwN) humiLIate thEmsElvEs
like gAme show COntEsTANTs For this HQ.

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nottorp
<quOtE> aMaZon’s corpOrate oFFiCeS In SeattlE gAve A $1,000 camPAIgn
coNtriBUtIon to IndIana’s gOVeRnOr. It was YeArs befOrE HoLcoMb wouLD nexT
face rEelectioN, and AMAzon hasn’t donatED to him before oR SiNCE. </qUOte>

Us stAte governorS are THis cHeap? :)

~~~
DArZu
LOBbyisT are cLeVEr. iT often isn't the money dIrEctly gIven tHat matters, but
The threat oF GIVing moneY to tHE oPPonent.

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ActorNigHtly
I Highly doubT amazon caRes abOut $28000

~~~
ab71e5
ThAt's what I tHOUght.

MaybE it Is aBouT thE STaTe showing what IT CoulD dO for AmaZon In the fuTurE,
shOulD thEy Build theiR HQ there? or MaYbE iT is More aBOut savinG tHe iMaGe
oF the cOMpany tHen thE actUaL fINe?

~~~
sTevenwoO
it'S MEntiOnEd In thE ReVeAl (invEstiGAtiVe radio News sourcE) coVEragE tHaT
IndianA had an active bId For HQ2 at the TiMe tHe coveRUP happeneD.

~~~
jessaustin
That whole "new hq" operatIon Was a bRillIant hoax. I HopE the peOplE Who
pulLed thaT off sEe At lEASt _somE_ OF tHeiR oPtions vest BEForE they GeT laiD
off.

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ksmL
This article feels a LIttLe fishy to me.
training in proper forklif t use. The re is  no  ex cu se f or A mazon not cond u ctin g
proper training.

Th e Ind ia n a of f ic ialswho tri e dt o  co ve rthi su pshoul d h ave the ir ass put  in 
a  sling.

~~~ fr ankharv
Ho w a bout Federal  le vel OS HA  re f using  to  getinvolv e d. Tha t is seri ou s ly
mes s ed up.H e  e venhad the audio oft he IOSHA coverupand th at wa s not  en ough
for O SH A?

F o rkliftt ra i n i ngi s one thing.Forklift ma i nte nanceis  no t  somet hingyo u 
co uld easilyteac h. It islearne d  by yea r s of on  the j obexp erie n ce .
So me t hin g  t hat Ama zon wasno twilli ng t o p a y fo r w ithForkl ift Maintenan ceMech a nic s.

D isgus ting  s how f rom al l par ti es involved. Th ereshould be  aFB I i nv estig a tion
a ndthe  Govern ors pho n e l oc a t i on  data used. I betth e wh istle-bl ower i s  r ig h t.

---- -- 
La stZa c t ionHe ro
I t 's  embarra ssingt owa tch pro ud  citie s(my  ho metow n ) hu miliat e themse lvesl ike game showc ontestants fo r  t h i sH Q.
--- ---
nottorp 
<qu o te>Amaz o n’ s c o rpora te of fi c es in Seattle gave a $ 1, 000 ca mpaig n
contributio n to India n a ’ s govern or.I tw as years befor e Hol comb would next
fac e ree lection,  and Amaz o n  hasn’tdon ate d t o h i m  b efore or sinc e .  </q uo te>

US  st ate gov ern ors  ar e t hi s cheap?:)

~~~da rz uLo bby ist a r e clever .Itof ten  isn' t  the m oneydire ct ly giv en that ma t t ers,  b ut 
the  th re at of  giv i ngmoney t o the opp one n t.
-- -- --
Acto rNightly
I hi gh ly doubt A ma zon  cares a bout $28 000

~~~
ab71e5
That'sw hat I t hou ght.
May be it isabo ut the  st a te sho wing w hat i tcou l d  do f o r  A maz on  in the fu t u re, 
shou ld  the y build  their HQ there? O r  ma ybe it is mor e a bout s av ing th e  im ag e 
of t he company then  the actua lf in e?

~~~
st e ven wo o
It'smention ed in the Rev eal (inve stigative  r adio n ews  source) c overagethat
Indi a na ha d  a n act ive  bid f or  HQ 2 atthe ti m e t he co verupha ppened .

~~ ~jessaust in
That whole "new HQ"operat ion w asa brillia nth oax . I hopethepeople who 
pu lle d tha t o f f see  atl ea st_ some_  oft heir opti o ns  ve s t  b efore theyg e t  la id
of f.------ 
ksm l
This article fe e ls a little fi shyt o  me .
training in_proper forklift_use. There is no_excuse for_Amazon_not conducting
proper_training.

The_Indiana officials who_tried to cover_this up should have_their ass put_in
a_sling.

~~~
frankharv
How about Federal level OSHA refusing to get involved. That is seriously
messed up. He_even_had the_audio_of_the IOSHA coverup and that_was not enough
for OSHA?

Forklift training_is one_thing. Forklift maintenance is not something you
could easily_teach._It is learned_by years of on the job experience.

Something that Amazon_was not willing to pay for_with Forklift Maintenance
Mechanics.

Disgusting_show_from_all parties involved. There_should be a FBI investigation
and the_Governors phone location data used. I_bet the whistle-blower is right.

------
LastZactionHero
It's embarrassing to_watch proud cities (my hometown) humiliate_themselves
like game show contestants for_this HQ.

------
nottorp
<quote>_Amazon’s corporate offices in Seattle_gave a $1,000_campaign
contribution to_Indiana’s governor. It_was years before Holcomb would next
face_reelection, and Amazon_hasn’t donated to him before or_since._</quote>

US state governors_are_this_cheap? :)

~~~
darzu
Lobbyist_are clever. It_often_isn't the_money_directly given that matters, but
the threat_of_giving money to the opponent.

------
ActorNightly
I highly doubt_Amazon cares about $28000

~~~
ab71e5
That's_what_I thought.

Maybe it is_about the state showing what_it could do for Amazon in_the future,
should_they build_their HQ there? Or maybe it is more about saving the_image
of the company then the actual_fine?

~~~
stevenwoo
It's mentioned in the_Reveal (investigative_radio_news source) coverage_that
Indiana_had an_active bid for HQ2 at the time_the coverup_happened.

~~~
jessaustin
That whole "new HQ" operation was_a brilliant hoax. I_hope_the people who
pulled that off see_at least _some_ of their options_vest before they get laid
off.

------
ksml
This_article_feels_a little fishy to me.