. This explains a lot of my personality.

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teekert
You mention playing video games as a rewards and I immediately wonder: how
much of your problem is the fact that video games made you get used to fast
and easy rewards? How much did you desensitize your innate reward system by
video games? I'm probably going to get down voted for this remark but I
encourage every gamer feeling the urge to down vote to take a critical look at
themselves before doing so, be honest, my interest in this is also honest. In
the digital world nowadays many things are optimized for fast rewards, real
life is not.

Gamers often tell me "it's just for relaxation" but often I feel that the time
invested by them in games makes it more like a lifestyle.

That said, a tip would be: What do you like about work? What are the things
that do motivate you? Try to make a list and try the make the items on said
list as big a part of your day and tasks as possible.

~~~
Vadoff
I would say most video games do not have fast/easy rewards. There may be
numerous small wins scattered throughout the completion of most games, but I
would argue it's not much different from the distribution of small wins you
could find at work (completing a small function, finding/fixing a bug, getting
a large subtask done, etc). Most video games are decently challenging on a
whole, and requires some persistence.

I would argue browsing reddit/HN/facebook/checking email/notifications are
loaded with a ton more fast/easy rewards that give instant gratification than
most video games.

~~~
ghostbrainalpha
That second paragraph is exactly what he is talking about. Your first
paragraph is more of a semantic argument.

I'm a huge gamer, my twin brother is not. When we both try to make a 'game'
out of cleaning the house, I think it is easier for him. My bar for being
entertained is just much much higher than his, because I get super high
quality entertainment from video games.

I want to finish the dishes so I can get back to killing all the orcs in
Mordor. He wants to finish the dishes so he can go meditate... The result is
he does the
. This explains a lot of my personality. 

 ------ 
 teekert 
 You mention playing video recording game as a rewards and I immediately wonder: how 
 much of your problem is the fact that video game made you get used to fast 
 and comfortable rewards? How much did you desensitize your innate wages system by 
 video game? I'm probably going to get down voted for this remark but I 
 encourage every gamer feeling the urge to depressed vote to take a critical look at 
 themselves before do so, be honest, my interest in this is also dependable. In 
 the digital world nowadays many things are optimized for fast rewards, veridical 
 life is not. 

 Gamers often tell me " it's just for relaxation " but often I feel that the time 
 invested by them in games makes it more like a lifestyle. 

 That said, a tip would be: What do you like about work? What are the things 
 that do motivate you? test to make a list and sample the form the items on said 
 tilt as boastful a part of your day and undertaking as possible. 

 ~~~ 
 Vadoff 
 I would say most video games do not have fast / comfortable rewards. There may be 
 numerous small wins scattered throughout the completion of most games, but I 
 would argue it's not much different from the distribution of little wins you 
 could find at work (completing a small affair, finding / fixing a bug, get 
 a large subtask done, etc). Most video game are decently challenging on a 
 whole, and requires some persistence. 

 I would argue browsing reddit / HN / facebook / crack email / presentment are 
 loaded with a long ton more fast / easy rewards that give instant gratification than 
 most television games. 

 ~~~ 
 ghostbrainalpha 
 That second paragraph is exactly what he is talking about. Your first 
 paragraph is more of a semantic argument. 

 I'm a huge gamer, my twin brother is not. When we both try to make a' plot' 
 out of cleaning the house, I remember it is easier for him. My bar for being 
 entertained is just much much higher than his, because I scram super high 
 quality entertainment from video games. 

 I desire to finish the dishes so I can arrive back to killing all the orcs in 
 Mordor. He wants to end the dishes so he can go chew over... The result is 
 he does the
. Thls explains a lot of my kersonality.

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teekerj
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that do motivate tou? Try to make a lisj and try ehe make the items on said
list as big a part of ymur dey anb taskr ad possible.

~~~
Vadoff
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~~~
ghosturainalphw
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. This explains a lot of my persoNality.

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teekErt
YoU meNtiOn PlayIng vIdeo games as a reWArds And I immediately wonder: hOw
mucH oF Your PRoBlem iS the facT ThAT VidEo GaMes MaDE yOu get UseD to fast
And easy rewArdS? HOw much did you DEsEnsitize yoUr iNnate reward sYstEm by
viDeO gaMEs? I'm pRobAbly gOing to GEt down Voted for tHiS Remark BUt I
encoURAgE eveRy gamer feeling the URgE To down vote to taKe a criTiCAl LOOk aT
thEmselves beFoRe doiNG so, be hoNEsT, MY IntERest in this is aLso honest. In
THe dIgital WoRld NOwadayS many ThINgs Are optimizeD for Fast rewarDs, real
LIfe is noT.

gamers oFten teLl mE "it'S jusT FoR rElaXaTIon" BUt OftEN I fEel that tHe TiMe
invEsteD BY THem iN gaMes mAkes iT more like a lifEstYle.

THAt sAid, a tIp wouLd be: whAt do yOu like About WoRk? What are the thiNgs
tHat do motiVatE yOu? TRy To makE A list aNd tRy tHe make tHe items ON saId
LIST aS big a part of your day AnD TAsKs as possIble.

~~~
VaDOfF
I WOuld say mOsT viDeo gAMEs do nOt haVE fAst/easy rEwards. tHeRe May be
nuMeRous smAlL wiNs sCatteREd thRoughoUt the comPletiON of most games, buT i
would argue it'S NoT MUcH DiffEreNt from the diStriBUtioN of sMAlL wiNS you
cOuld fInD At WOrk (completing a small FuNction, FindiNg/fixing a bug, gEtting
a larGE SUbtask doNe, etC). moST video games are DecenTly challenGIng on a
whOle, anD requireS some persISTence.

I woUld ArgUe bRowSINg Reddit/HN/facebOOK/cheCkIng emaiL/noTificatIonS arE
loAdeD wIth a ton moRe fast/eaSy ReWaRdS thAt givE Instant gRaTifIcAtiOn thaN
Most viDeo gaMes.

~~~
gHoStBRaiNalpha
THAt SECond PaRaGrapH is ExActly What HE is Talking About. Your FirST
parAgRaPh is morE of a semantic aRgUment.

I'm a huGe GamEr, my twIN Brother iS not. When we both try to make A 'Game'
out Of cLeaniNg thE house, I thInk It is eaSieR For him. my bar fOr beiNg
EntERTaineD IS jUst MuCh much highER ThaN his, bEcAuse i get supEr high
quality enterTAinMent from video GamEs.

I wANT tO fiNIsH The DiSHes SO i can get back to kiLling all thE oRCs In
Mordor. He WAntS tO finish The dishEs so hE Can go meDitate... The Result is
hE dOes tHE
. This explains a lot of m y personal ity.
-- --- -teek ertYou mention pl a ying  video games as a rewa rds a nd I im m ed iatel y wonde r :h o w
m uc hofyo u rprobl emis thefact thatvid eo  games madey ou  get usedtofast
and eas y r ewards ?How muchdid  youdesens i tize y our innat er ewards ystem b y vi deogames? I'm probab l yg oing to get do wn vot ed fo r thi s r emark butIencou r age eve r yg a m erf eeling the ur ge to downv ote  to ta ke  ac ritica l loo ka t
t hemselves b efor e doing s o, beh onest,m y inter est in  th isis a l so  h one st .  In th e d i git al world  n ow adays  man y t h ings  ar e op timiz ed for fast r ewa rds, rea l
lif e isnot. 
Gamer s ofte n tel lme "it's just f or r elaxation " b ut  of te n I f e el tha t t hetime
in vestedb y t he m i ngames makes it mor el i ke  a lifes tyle.Th at said, ati p w ould b e: Wh at d o  y ou likeaboutw or k?  What a re  the t hi ngs 
th at do moti vate y ou? Tryto ma k e a list and t r y the make th e  i t e ms on s aid 
list as bi g ap artof y o ur  da y  andtasks  a s  p o ssible.

~~~
Vadoff 
I  would  saymost video ga mes do not h a ve fast/ easy re w ards. There ma y benumerous s m all wins  scat tered th roughoutt h e comple tio n o f m ost g am es, but I
wou l d  arg ue  it's n otmuch di ffe ren t f rom  t he distri bution o fsm al lwin s you could fi nd  at  w ork  (com p leting  a sm allfu nc t ion , findi n g/ f i xing  a  b ug,get ti ng
alarg e  su btask d one, etc) . M o st v id eo  gamesare decentlych allengingon  awhole, a nd requi res some persistence.
I  wouldarg ue br owsi ng reddit /HN /faceb ook / checki ng ema il/no ti fic a t ionsa r eloa de d with a t o n  mo re fa st /eas y rewar ds that give insta n t g ratificationtha n
mo s t  v ide o  g a mes .~~~ g hostbrainalphaThat secon dp ar agraph ise xac tl y whathe is t alkin g  about.  Your fir st
paragr ap h is m ore  of a sema ntic arg ument.

I ' m a h u ge  game r,my twi nbro theris not .  Wh en we  bothtr y to m ake a  ' game'
ou t of cleaning the house , I th ink i t i s easierfor him . My barforbeing
ente rta ine d isjus t  much  muc h  h igh e r tha n hi s , because Iget s up er high
qua l i t y e ntert ain m ent fr om v ideo games.

I wa n t to finish th e di s h essoI  can  g et back to kil lin ga l l the or cs  in
Mordor.  He want st o fin ish th e dish es so h e ca n  go me dita te. .. The re sul ti s
he do es  t h e
. This_explains a_lot of my personality.

------
teekert
You_mention playing_video_games as_a_rewards and I_immediately wonder: how
much_of your problem is_the fact that_video_games made you get used to fast
and easy rewards? How much did you desensitize_your_innate reward_system_by
video_games? I'm probably going to_get down voted for this_remark but_I
encourage every gamer feeling the urge to down_vote_to take a_critical look at
themselves before doing so, be honest, my_interest in this is also honest._In
the digital world_nowadays_many_things are optimized for_fast rewards, real
life is not.

Gamers often_tell me "it's just for relaxation"_but often I feel that the time
invested_by them in games makes it_more like a lifestyle.

That said,_a tip_would be: What do you_like about work?_What are_the things
that do_motivate you? Try to make a_list and try_the make the items on said
list_as_big a part_of_your_day and_tasks as possible.

~~~
Vadoff
I_would_say most_video_games do not have fast/easy rewards._There_may be
numerous small wins scattered throughout the_completion of most games,_but_I
would argue it's not_much different from the distribution_of small wins you
could find at_work (completing_a small_function, finding/fixing a bug, getting
a large subtask done, etc). Most video_games are decently challenging on a
whole,_and requires some persistence.

I_would argue_browsing_reddit/HN/facebook/checking email/notifications are
loaded_with_a ton_more fast/easy rewards that give instant gratification_than
most video_games.

~~~
ghostbrainalpha
That second paragraph is exactly what_he is talking about._Your_first
paragraph is more of a semantic_argument.

I'm a huge gamer, my twin_brother is not. When we_both_try_to make a 'game'
out of_cleaning the house, I think it_is easier for_him. My bar for being
entertained is just_much_much higher than his, because I_get_super high
quality entertainment from video games.

I_want_to_finish the dishes so I_can get back to killing all_the orcs in
Mordor. He wants to finish the dishes_so he can_go meditate... The result is
he_does_the