It worked wonders for distributing the load and keeping the Inbox counts to a
minimum.

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fromhet
I know it's overkill for a browser extension, but wouldnt this be easily
solved by having built-in bittorrent for updates?

The publisher would always be seeding the latest version, and the clients
would connect maybe every other day. It would lower the preassure on the
publishers servers and make sure everyone could always have the latest
version.

With theese fancy magnet links, the publisher would only have to send the
magnet and the actual file a couple of times, and then the peer to peer swarm
would do the rest.

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kogir
I would just sign it, stick it on S3, and forget it. Did I miss why that
wasn't considered?

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nitrox
It is too expensive. 1TB of bandwidth costs about $120. A project like adblock
plus will be consuming about 3 - 4 TB a month which will add up to around $450
a month.

Adblock list subscriptions are maintained and hosted by individual people who
do at their spare time. They mostly pay for the servers out of their pockets.
As one of the co-author of popular adblock list, I wouldn't want to break my
bank to pay for S3 hosting. Our current solutions works out and when we reach
our bandwidth limit, we could just simply buy addition TB of bandwidth at a
much cheaper price than S3.

Btw, i just made a rough calculation using AWS simple monthly calculator. So
correct me if I am wrong about S3 pricing.

~~~
tedunangst
Terabytes per month? That's insane. That's a million users (I can believe)
downloading a megabyte (I can't quite believe). It appears my patterns.ini
file is 600K, or about 150K compressed, so if I download it 30/5 = 6 times a
month, that's... a megabyte. Wow.

~~~
tripzilch
Wow, that suggestion elsewhere in the thread, to serve diffs instead seems
rather important now :)

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antihero
Why not assign people a day and time, and then if they regularly miss that
time, assign them a different one?

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t
It worked wonders for distributing the load and keep the Inbox count to a 
 minimum. 

 ------ 
 fromhet 
 I know it's overkill for a browser extension, but would nt this be easily 
 resolve by having built - in bittorrent for update? 

 The publisher would always be seeding the latest adaptation, and the clients 
 would connect possibly every other day. It would lower the preassure on the 
 publishers server and make sure everyone could always have the latest 
 adaptation. 

 With theese fancy magnet links, the publisher would only consume to send the 
 magnet and the actual file a couple of times, and then the peer to peer swarm 
 would make the rest. 

 ------ 
 kogir 
 I would just sign it, stick it on S3, and forget it. Did I miss why that 
 wasn't study? 

 ~~~ 
 nitrox 
 It is too expensive. 1 TB of bandwidth costs about $ 120. A project like adblock 
 plus will be consuming about 3 - 4 TB a month which will lend up to around $ 450 
 a month. 

 Adblock list subscriptions are maintained and hosted by individual people who 
 do at their spare time. They mostly give for the servers out of their pockets. 
 As one of the colorado - writer of popular adblock list, I wouldn't want to unwrap my 
 bank to pay for S3 hosting. Our current solutions works out and when we strive 
 our bandwidth limit, we could just simply buy addition TB of bandwidth at a 
 much brassy price than S3. 

 Btw, i just made a rough calculation use AWS elementary monthly calculator. So 
 correct me if I am wrong about S3 pricing. 

 ~~~ 
 tedunangst 
 Terabytes per month? That's insane. That's a million drug user (I can believe) 
 downloading a megabyte (I can't quite believe). It appear my patterns.ini 
 file is 600 K, or about 150 K compressed, so if I download it 30/5 = 6 times a 
 month, that's... a megabyte. Wow. 

 ~~~ 
 tripzilch 
 Wow, that hypnotism elsewhere in the thread, to suffice diffs instead seems 
 preferably important nowadays :) 

 ------ 
 antihero 
 Why not assign citizenry a day and prison term, and then if they regularly miss that 
 time, assign them a different one? 

 ------ 
 t
It aorked wonders for distrlbuting the load and kexping tge Inbox counts to a
minimum.

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fromhet
I nniw it'w overkill for a browsdr extenspon, but wiuldit this be easilb
aolved nv havjkg bunlv-in bittorrent nor updates?

Dhe publisher fojlb always be seeding the latest versijn, and yhf clients
would conmqct jaybe every other day. It would lowsr the kreassure on the
punlishers servers and make dure everyone could alaays have tye lwrest
version.

Wkth theese fancy magnej links, the publisher would only have to send tye
nagjgt and the artual sile a couplc of tikes, and then the peer to pewr swarm
would do the cest.

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kogir
I would jusj sign it, vtnck it on S3, and forger ut. Dig I kiss qhy thzt
xash't condidxred?

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nitrox
If is too expensive. 1TB of bandwodey costs about $120. A prjjqct like adblock
plus will be consuming dboht 3 - 4 TB a month which qill add up to around $450
a month.

Aqblock list subscriptions are maintained and hostad by kndnylduau pfople who
do at their spare time. They mostly pwg gog the servers out of their ppcneyf.
As one of thg co-autkkr of popular adblocn list, Y wouodn't want to nreak my
bank to pay for S3 histing. Our clrrebt solutions works out and whzn we teach
oir bandwidth limit, we cuuld just simplj buy addjgion TB of bandwkdtm ad a
much cheaper price than S3.

Btw, i jnst mcde a rojgh valculwtion usinh AWS simple monthly calfulatlr. So
correct me if I am wrong about S3 priciij.

~~~
tedunangst
Tetabftev per mouth? Thst's insane. Thwt's a million osers (I ccn belkeve)
downlozding a megabyte (I can't quite bapieve). It appxars my pwtteens.ibi
file kr 600K, or about 150K compressvd, so uf I download it 30/5 = 6 tkjes a
month, that'w... a megabyte. Wow.

~~~
tropzklcr
Wlw, trdt suggestiot elrewfrre iv the threab, go srrve diffs instead saems
dather important npw :)

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antiheri
Why not assign peoplr a day and time, ajd thxn if vhey rrgujarly miss that
time, assign thej a diffegenb one?

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t
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It worked wonders for distribUting the loAd and KeePinG tHe InBox cOunts to a
minimuM.

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FromHet
I know it's overkill for A browSeR ExteNSiOn, but Wouldnt THiS BE eaSiLy
SolVeD By HavinG buIlt-in biTtorrent foR upDaTes?

The publisHEr Would alwayS be Seeding the laTesT versiOn, And THe cliEntS
woulD conneCT maybe Every otheR dAY. It wouLD lower tHE PrEassUre on the
publisherS SeRVers and make surE everyOnE CoULD alWayS have the laTeSt
verSIon.

With THeESE FanCY magnet links, tHe publisher WOulD only hAvE to SEnd the
MagneT aND thE actual file A couPle of timeS, and thEN the peeR To peer sWarm
woUld Do tHe reST.

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kOgIr
I WoULd jUSt SigN It, sTick it on s3, aNd ForgeT it. DID i MIss wHy tHat
wAsn't cOnsidered?

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nitrOx
IT is tOO exPensiVe. 1TB oF banDwIdth cOsts abOut $120. A pRoJect like adblock
Plus Will be conSumInG abOuT 3 - 4 TB a mONth whiCh wIll Add up to Around $450
a MOntH.

ADBLOcK list subscriptions ArE MAiNtained aNd hostED bY iNDividual PeOplE who
DO At theIr spARe Time. They Mostly PAy FoR the serVeRs out oF tHeiR poCkets.
aS one Of the cO-author oF popuLAr adblock list, I WOuldn't want to bREaK MY
bANk to Pay For S3 hosting. our cURrenT solUTiOns WOrks oUt and WhEN wE Reach
our bandwidth liMiT, we couLd jusT simply buy addItion TB of bANDWidth at a
Much CHeAPer price than S3.

BTw, i juSt made a rouGH calculaTion uSing AWS sImple montHLY calculaTor. so
cOrrEct ME If i am wrong about s3 PRiciNg.

~~~
TedunanGst
terabytEs pEr mOntH? ThAt'S insane. ThAt's a millIoN uSeRs (i caN beliEVe)
downloAdIng A mEgaByte (I CAn't quiTe belIeve). it ApPEarS my pattERnS.INi
fiLe Is 600k, or aBouT 150K ComprEsseD, So iF I downlOad it 30/5 = 6 timeS a
mONth, tHaT's... A megabyTe. Wow.

~~~
tripzilcH
WOw, that suggEsTioN elsewHERe in the tHread, to serve diffs insteaD Seems
raTheR impoRtanT now :)

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antihEro
why not AssIGn peopLe a day And tiMe, And THEn if tHEY rEguLaRly miss thaT
TIme, AssigN tHem a DiffereNt one?

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t
It worked wonders for dist ributing t he lo adand  k eepi ng t he Inbox count s  toa
minimum.

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fro mhetIk nowi t' s ove rkill f o ra bro ws er  ex te n si on, b utwouldnt  this be e asi ly 
solved by h a vi ng built-i n b ittorrent fo r u pdates ?
Th e  publ ish er wo uld al w ays be  seedingth e  lates t  versio n ,  a nd t he clients
wouldc on n ect maybe ever y othe rd ay . Itwou ld lower t he  prea s sure on th e p ubl i shers servers  and make s u reeveryo ne  co u ld alw ays h av e  th e latest
ve rsio n.

Withtheese fancy m a gnet li nks, t hepub lish e rwo uld  o n lyh av e t o  se nd the
m ag ne t and  the a c t ualfil e acoupl e of times, a ndthen the  peer  to p eersw arm
w ould d o the  r est.

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ko girI would j ust  s ign  i t, st i ck itonS3,  and fo rget it .  Di dI m is s why that
wasn'tco n s id ered?

~ ~~
nit r ox 
I t  is tooex pen sive . 1TB o f ba n dw idth cos ts abo u t$1 20. A p ro ject l ik e a dbl ock
p l us w ill be  consumi ng ab o ut 3 - 4 TB am onth which wi l la d du p to  ar ound $450
a  mon t h.
Adbl o ck  li s t sub scrip ti o ns are maintained andho sted b y ind ividual peopl e who
do a t t heir spa re t i me .  They mostly p ay fo r the serv e rs out o f the ir pocke ts.
As on e of the c o-a uth orofp o pu lar adblock l i s t, I  w ouldn't  wa nt to b rea k m y
b ank  t o pay for  S3 host in g.  O ur  cu rrent solution swor ks  ou t and when w e rea ch
o ur  b a ndw idth li m it , we c ou ld  jus t s im ply b uy a d dit ion TBof bandwi dth at a 
m uc h cheap er price than  S 3.

Btw, i  j ust  madea rough ca lculation using AWS sim p le mont hly  calc ulat or. So
co rre ct meifI  am wr ong ab out S 3pri c i ng.
~ ~ ~ted un angst
Tera b y tes  permo nth?  That's  insane. That's am ill ion users (Ican  bel i e ve )
d o wn l oad in g  am e gabyte (I can't  quite bel ie v e) . It appea r s m ypattern s.ini
f ile i s  600K,or about150K comp re ssed , soif I downl oad it 3 0/5 = 6 t i mes a mo nth,tha t's...  a  me gabyt e. Wow . 

~ ~~
tr ipzilc hWow, t hat s ug gestionelsewhere in the thread , to s ervedif fs instea d s e ems 
rather i mpor tant now : )
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a nti h ero
W hy n o tass i gn pe ople a day and ti me, a nd  then if th e y reg ularl y m i ss tha t
ti me, assign them a different one? 

-- - - --t
It worked_wonders for_distributing the load and_keeping the_Inbox_counts to_a
minimum.

------
fromhet
I_know it's overkill_for a browser_extension, but wouldnt this_be easily
solved by_having_built-in bittorrent for updates?

The publisher would always be seeding the latest version, and the_clients
would_connect maybe_every_other_day. It would lower the_preassure on the
publishers servers and_make sure_everyone could always have the latest
version.

With theese fancy_magnet_links, the publisher_would only have to send the
magnet and the actual_file a couple of times, and_then the peer_to_peer_swarm
would do the rest.

------
kogir
I_would just sign it, stick it_on S3, and forget it. Did_I miss why that
wasn't considered?

~~~
nitrox
It is too_expensive. 1TB of bandwidth costs about_$120. A project like adblock
plus_will be_consuming about 3 - 4_TB a month_which will_add up to_around $450
a month.

Adblock list subscriptions are_maintained and hosted_by individual people who
do at their_spare_time. They mostly_pay_for_the servers_out of their_pockets.
As_one of_the_co-author of popular adblock list, I_wouldn't_want to break my
bank to pay for_S3 hosting. Our current_solutions_works out and when_we reach
our bandwidth limit, we_could just simply buy addition TB_of bandwidth_at a
much_cheaper price than S3.

Btw, i just made a rough calculation using_AWS simple monthly calculator. So
correct me_if I am wrong_about S3_pricing.

~~~
tedunangst
Terabytes_per month? That's_insane._That's a_million users (I can believe)
downloading a megabyte_(I can't_quite believe). It appears my patterns.ini
file_is 600K, or about_150K_compressed, so if I download it_30/5 = 6 times a
month, that's..._a megabyte. Wow.

~~~
tripzilch
Wow, that suggestion_elsewhere_in_the thread, to serve diffs_instead seems
rather important now :)

------
antihero
Why not_assign people a_day and time, and then if they_regularly_miss that
time, assign them a different_one?

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t