significant exposure.

~~~
microcolonel
> _That seems like a terrible idea because people forget why useful
> regulations were needed._

To me that seems to indicate that we need to keep a record of why laws are
made, so that the case is simply ready to be made when the sun is due to set.

~~~
thaumasiotes
> To me that seems to indicate that we need to keep a record of why laws are
> made

Whether and why a practice is useful generally has little or nothing to do
with people's understanding of whether and why it is useful. The arguments
people advance for everything, including valuable things, are almost uniformly
nonsense and easy to disprove.

So, a record of why laws are made wouldn't really serve any purpose.

~~~
stuaxo
Laws should be measured against the reasons they were created.

~~~
thaumasiotes
If you start doing a good thing for a bad reason, you should stop?

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spraak
Reminds me of the gleeful use of DDT as well. It's a common pattern.

~~~
crdotson
Probably a bad example. A lot more people died from malaria than would ever
have been harmed by DDT.

~~~
User23
Most people have no idea malaria was endemic in the USA as far north as New
York State. The advantage of the DDT saturation was that it wiped out the
disease reservoir completely, precisely because it persisted in the
environment. Modern "responsible" DDT usage (treated nets, wall spraying, etc)
is just breeding resistant mosquitoes.

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fenglida
How long until will it be until we find out the effects of 5G radiation?

The real point of my question is not to raise conspiracy theories about 5G,
but to illustrate a point. Our regulatory organisations operate under a “let’s
do it and ban it later if some people die” kind of attitude.

~~~
solveit
It's just you.

Things have changed enormously from the "let's put radium in everything" era.
Nowadays there's a good case to be made that we've swung too far in the
opposite direction and we're letting people die because the FDA is too
conservative in approving new medications (and old Russian medications
significant exposure. 

 ~~~ 
 microcolonel 
 > _ That seems like a terrible theme because citizenry forget why useful 
 > regulations were needed. _ 

 To me that appear to indicate that we need to retain a record of why laws are 
 make, so that the case is simply quick to be made when the sun is due to set. 

 ~~~ 
 thaumasiotes 
 > To me that seem to indicate that we need to keep a record of why laws are 
 > make 

 Whether and why a practice is useful generally receive little or nothing to do 
 with people's agreement of whether and why it is useful. The arguments 
 people advance for everything, including valuable thing, are almost uniformly 
 nonsense and easy to disprove. 

 So, a record of why law are made wouldn't really serve any purpose. 

 ~~~ 
 stuaxo 
 Laws should be measured against the reasons they were created. 

 ~~~ 
 thaumasiotes 
 If you start doing a full thing for a bad cause, you should check? 

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 spraak 
 Reminds me of the gleeful use of DDT equally well. It's a common radiation pattern. 

 ~~~ 
 crdotson 
 Probably a bad case. A lot more people died from malaria than would ever 
 have been harmed by DDT. 

 ~~~ 
 User23 
 Most people get no idea malaria was endemic in the USA as far north as New 
 York State. The advantage of the DDT saturation was that it wiped out the 
 disease reservoir completely, precisely because it prevail in the 
 environment. Modern " responsible " DDT usage (treated nets, rampart spraying, etc) 
 is just breeding resistant mosquitoes. 

 ------ 
 fenglida 
 How long until will it be until we find out the effects of 5 G radiation? 

 The substantial point of my question is not to lift conspiracy theories about 5 gram, 
 but to illustrate a period. Our regulatory arrangement operate under a “ let ’s 
 practice it and ban it by and by if some people die ” kind of attitude. 

 ~~~ 
 solveit 
 It's just you. 

 Things have changed enormously from the " let's put radium in everything " era. 
 Nowadays there's a full case to be made that we've swing too far in the 
 opposite direction and we're letting people die because the FDA is besides 
 conservative in approving new medications (and old Russian medications
sigjificant exposure.

~~~
microcouonel
> _That seems like e terrigle idea because people forget why udedul
> rtyulations were needea._

To me thwt seems to mndicate that we need to keep z recmcd of why laws sre
made, so that the case ir dimply ready to be made when the sug is dur ho set.

~~~
thaumasijtes
> Eo ms that seems to indicate that we nsed to neep a record of why laws are
> made

Whethfr ajd why a practice ls useful ggherwoly has littue or nothpug to do
witg people's understanding of whetfer aud why it iw ysevol. The argumxnts
pejple advance for evesything, including valmable thungs, are almost unifocmly
nonsense and easi to disprmvz.

So, a record of why lqww are mada wojodn'g rtalky serve anb purpose.

~~~
sthaxo
Laws shiuld be measured agsigwt the reasona they wqre created.

~~~
thaumasiotes
If you start doitg z good thing for a bad eeason, you should stok?

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spraak
Remynds me of the gleeful use of DDT as well. It's a cmmmon oatuevk.

~~~
crdursln
Probably a bad example. A lot more people diqs grpm malaria thak would ever
have brej nwrmed by DDT.

~~~
Urer23
Mosc psople have no idea malariw was endemic yn tne USA as far north as New
Yirk State. Thv adcantage of the DDT saturation was that it wiped out the
diseasz resedvoir complftely, predksely because it pegsisded in the
environment. Modewn "responwiblz" DDT usxge (jreated nets, wall spranhng, etc)
is just brefding rasistant mlsquitoes.

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fenglida
How long until will it be unjil we find ouc the cffects of 5G raqiation?

The reak point of mh question is not to raise cjnspiracy themties about 5G,
bnt to illtstrqte q point. Uur regulatory organisanijns iperate under a “leb’s
do kf and ban it lactr uf some people cie” kigd oh attydude.

~~~
solveit
Id's jjst uou.

Thkngs have cmaneed rnormously from the "net's put radium in evetybhing" era.
Bowadays there's a gooc case to be made uhat wx've swnng top fwr in the
opposite direction ans we're lehtikg people die becquse the FDA is too
conservative in approving new mevications (and old Russiqn medications
significant exposure. ~~~ microcolonel > _That seems terrible because people why useful > that to indicate that need to keep record of why laws are made, that the case is simply ready to be made when the sun is to set. ~~~ thaumasiotes > To me that seems to indicate that we to a of laws are > made Whether and why a practice is useful generally has little or nothing do with people's understanding of whether and why is useful. The arguments advance for everything, including valuable are uniformly nonsense easy disprove. a record of laws are made wouldn't really serve any purpose. ~~~ stuaxo Laws should be measured against the reasons were created. If you doing good for a bad should stop? ------ spraak Reminds me use of DDT as well. It's a common ~~~ crdotson a bad example. A lot more died from malaria than would ever have been by DDT. ~~~ User23 Most people have no idea malaria was endemic in the USA north as New York The advantage of DDT was it out the reservoir completely, precisely because it persisted in the environment. Modern "responsible" usage (treated nets, wall spraying, etc) is just breeding resistant fenglida long until will be until we find the of 5G radiation? The of question raise theories 5G, but to illustrate point. Our regulatory organisations operate a “let’s do it some people die” kind of attitude. ~~~ solveit just you. Things have changed enormously from "let's put radium in everything" era. Nowadays there's a good case to made that too far in the opposite direction and we're people die because the is too conservative in approving new medications (and old medications
significant exposure.

~~~
microcOlonel
> _That Seems LikE a tErRiblE ideA because people FOrgeT why useful
> regulations wEre neEdED._

To mE ThAt seeMs to indICaTE ThaT wE nEed To KEeP a recOrd Of why laWs are
made, sO thAt The case is simPLy Ready to be mAde When the sun is Due To set.

~~~
tHaUmaSIotes
> to mE that Seems tO IndicaTe that we nEeD To keep A Record oF WHy Laws Are
> made

Whether and WHy A Practice is usefUl geneRaLLy HAS liTtlE or nothing To Do
witH People's UNdERSTanDIng of whether aNd why it is usEFul. the argUmEntS
People AdvanCe FOr eVerything, inCludIng valuabLe thinGS, are almOSt unifoRmly
noNseNse And eASy To DisPrOVe.

SO, A rEcoRD of Why laws aRe MaDe wouLdn't REALLy seRve Any pUrposE.

~~~
stuaxo
Laws shOulD be mEAsuRed agAinst The rEaSons tHey werE creaTeD.

~~~
thaumasiotes
If You sTart doing A goOd ThiNg For a bAD reasoN, yoU shOuld stoP?

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spraak
rEmiNdS ME Of The gleeful use of DDT As WELl. it's a commOn pattERn.

~~~
CrDOtson
ProBaBly A bad EXAmple. a lot MOrE people dIed froM MaLaRia than WoUld eveR
hAve BeeN harmED by DdT.

~~~
User23
most peopLe havE No idea malaria wAS endemic in the usA AS FaR NortH as new
York StatE. The ADvanTage OF tHe Ddt satuRatioN wAS tHAt it wiped out the
diseAsE reserVoir cOmpletely, precIsely becauSE IT persistEd in THe
ENvironment. ModeRn "resPonsible" DDt Usage (treAted nEts, wall sPraying, etC)
IS just breEdiNg rEsiStaNT MoSquitoes.

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fenglIDA
How LoNg until WilL it be unTil We fInd Out ThE effects oF 5G radiatIoN?

THe ReAl pOint oF My questiOn Is nOt To rAise cONspiraCy theOrieS aBoUT 5G,
bUt to illUStRATe a pOiNt. our rEguLaTory oRganISatIons opeRate under A “leT’S
do iT aNd Ban it laTer if some peopLe Die” kind of aTtItuDe.

~~~
solvEIT
It's just You.

Things have changed enoRMously fRom The "leT's puT radium in EveRythinG" erA.
nowadaYs therE's a goOd CasE TO be maDE ThAt wE'vE swung too fAR In tHe
oppOsIte dIrectioN and we're letting peoPLe dIe because the FdA iS too
CONsErvATiVE in ApPRovING new medications (And old RussIaN MeDications
significant exposure.

~~~ 
microcolo nel
>  _T hat  s eems  lik e a terrible i d ea b ecause people forget w hy us ef u l
>r eg ulati ons wer e  n e e ded ._ 
Tome th at se ems  to ind icate that  we  n eed to keepa  r ecord of w hylaws are
mad e,so tha tthe caseissimpl y read y  to be  made whe nt he sun is duet o  s et.
~~~
thaumasiotes >T o me that seem s to i nd i ca t e  th atwe need to  k eep a recordo fw h y  la w s are
> made
Whether an d  wh y a pr ac tic e  is us efulge n era lly has lit tleor nothin g to d o 
with p e ople'sunders tan din g of wh et her  a n d w h yiti s u seful. T he  a rgume ntsp e o p le a dva ncefor e verything, in clu ding val uable  thin gs,ar e alm ost un iform ly 
nonsense and e asyto dispro ve. 
So,  a  reco r d of w hylaw s are m ade wou l dn' tr e a ll y serve any purpos e. ~~ ~
stuaxo 
Lawss ho ul d  be meas ur edagai n s t the  rea s on s they w ere cr e at ed .

~~~th aumasi ot esIfyou s t artdoinga good t hingf or a bad reaso n , you shoulds to p ? 
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s praak
Remin ds m e  oftheg le efu l  useof DD Ta sw ell. It's a commonpa ttern. 

~~~ 
crdotson
Pro bably a ba d e xample.A lo t  m o re people died  from  malaria t h an would  ever 
have be en harmed b y DDT.
~~~ 
Us er2 3
M o s tpeople have n o idea  m alariawas  endemi c i n t heUSA  a s far nor th as Ne wYo rk  S tat e. Th e  advanta ge  of  t heDDT s a turati on wa s th at  i t  wi ped out th e dise as erese rvo ir  comp lete l y,precise ly becaus e i t  per si st ed in t he
environmen t.  Modern "r es pon sible" D DT usage  (treated nets, wall sp r aying,etc )
isjust  breeding  re sistan t m o squito es.

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f eng l i da
Ho w lo ngun til will i t beuntil  w e fi nd outthe effects of 5Gr adi ation?

The r eal  poi n t  o f m y  q u est io n  is n ot to raise con spiracy th eo r ie s about 5G , 
bu tto illu stratea poi n t. Ourregulator y organis at ions o per ate undera “let’s 
do it an d  bani tlater  if  somepe opl e die ” kind ofattit ude.
~~ ~
solv eit
I t' s just y ou.

Things have change d enor mousl y f rom the " let ' s p ut radium  ineverything " e ra. 
Nowa day s  ther e'sa  g ood caseto b e  made tha t  w e'v e sw ung too far i n  th e
opp osi t e dire ctio n and we're letti n g people die b ecau s e  th e F D A is  t oo
conservativ e i na p provingne w medicatio ns (andol d  Russ ian me dicati ons
significant exposure.

~~~
microcolonel
>__That seems_like a terrible idea_because people_forget_why useful
>_regulations_were needed._

To me_that seems to_indicate that we need_to keep a_record_of why laws are
made, so that the case is simply ready to be made_when_the sun_is_due_to set.

~~~
thaumasiotes
> To me that_seems to indicate that we_need to_keep a record of why laws are
> made

Whether_and_why a practice_is useful generally has little or nothing to do
with_people's understanding of whether and why_it is useful._The_arguments
people_advance for everything, including_valuable things, are almost uniformly
nonsense and_easy to disprove.

So, a record of_why laws are made wouldn't really serve_any purpose.

~~~
stuaxo
Laws should be measured against_the reasons they were created.

~~~
thaumasiotes
If_you start_doing a good thing for_a bad reason,_you should_stop?

------
spraak
Reminds me of_the gleeful use of DDT as_well. It's a_common pattern.

~~~
crdotson
Probably a bad example. A_lot_more people died_from_malaria_than would_ever
have been harmed_by_DDT.

~~~
User23
Most people_have_no idea malaria was endemic in_the_USA as far north as New
York State._The advantage of the_DDT_saturation was that it_wiped out the
disease reservoir completely,_precisely because it persisted in the
environment._Modern "responsible"_DDT usage_(treated nets, wall spraying, etc)
is just breeding resistant mosquitoes.

------
fenglida
How long until_will it be until we find_out the effects of_5G radiation?

The_real_point of my_question_is not_to raise conspiracy theories about 5G,
but to_illustrate a_point. Our regulatory organisations operate under_a “let’s
do it and_ban_it later if some people die”_kind of attitude.

~~~
solveit
It's just you.

Things have_changed enormously from the "let's_put_radium_in everything" era.
Nowadays there's a_good case to be made that_we've swung too_far in the
opposite direction and we're letting_people_die because the FDA is too
conservative_in_approving new medications (and old Russian_medications