Source: deployed Ganeti with great success at a billion-euro company, moved on
to promising "cloud" project which insisted on using Openstack and promptly
quit after a year of fighting obscure bugs (and naive colleagues who did not
want to try anything else :)).

(If you'd like help deploying it, I'm available!)

[0] [http://www.ganeti.org/](http://www.ganeti.org/)

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atarian
The article just mentions that Intel is no longer funding OSIC, which from
what I read is essentially a data center for contributors to use (for free?).
I could totally see why Intel would have second thoughts about footing a
server bill; I don't think it means they're officially out of OpenStack.

~~~
ajdlinux
My understanding is that the OSIC program also included funding for Rackspace
+ Intel OpenStack developers, some proportion of whom will probably be losing
their jobs out of this I imagine.

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xemdetia
From someone not very invested in the OpenStack process it feels like all the
momentum of the recent push of the project just withered away all at once. I
am not sure if the container crowd ate it's lunch, where containerized
appliances just solve the problem of openstack better.

~~~
yeukhon
OpenStack is a platform for creating an Infrastructure as a Service (IaaS). So
it's running on some physical machines, and manages your physical machines to
slice into VMs. There you get to manage / create networks, storage, etc.
Basically running a private cloud in your own datacenter/basement/office.
Openstack has grown more than just compute. It has a supposedly compatible
interface for S3 an object storage system, for example. New components are
created after major cloud services like AWS, pretty much. To manage containers
or manage applications, you can use CloudFoundry/Kubernetes, but to manage the
"infrastructure as a platform" (I want more machines, I want some bucket, I
want to run some Lambda function, I want to upload new OS images) you need
something like OpenStack. So if you want to build AWS/Digital Ocean, OpenStack
is required.

~~~
WorldMaker
This seems to get back to an interesting discussion I had with someone early
Source: deployed Ganeti with great success at a billion - euro ship's company, move on 
 to promising " cloud " project which insisted on use Openstack and promptly 
 quit after a year of crusade hidden bugs (and naive colleagues who did not 
 want to hear anything else :)). 

 (If you'd like help deploy it, I'm available !) 

 [ 0 ] [ http://www.ganeti.org/](http://www.ganeti.org/) 

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 atarian 
 The article barely mentions that Intel is no longer funding OSIC, which from 
 what I read is essentially a data center field for contributors to use (for free ?). 
 I could wholly see why Intel would have second idea about footing a 
 waiter bill; I don't intend it means they're officially out of OpenStack. 

 ~~~ 
 ajdlinux 
 My understanding is that the OSIC platform also included funding for Rackspace 
 + Intel OpenStack developers, some proportion of whom will probably be losing 
 their jobs out of this I imagine. 

 ------ 
 xemdetia 
 From someone not very invested in the OpenStack process it feels like all the 
 momentum of the recent push of the project just withered aside all at once. I 
 am not sure if the container crowd feed it's lunch, where containerize 
 appliances just solve the problem of openstack better. 

 ~~~ 
 yeukhon 
 OpenStack is a platform for creating an Infrastructure as a Service (IaaS). So 
 it's run on some physical machines, and manages your physical machines to 
 slice into VMs. There you get to manage / create networks, storage, etc. 
 Basically run a private swarm in your own datacenter / basement / position. 
 Openstack has grown more than just compute. It has a purportedly compatible 
 interface for S3 an object storage system, for example. New components are 
 created after major cloud services like AWS, reasonably much. To manage containers 
 or manage applications, you can practice CloudFoundry / Kubernetes, but to manage the 
 " infrastructure as a platform " (I want more machines, I desire some bucket, I 
 want to run some Lambda affair, I want to upload new bone images) you want 
 something like OpenStack. So if you want to build AWS / Digital Ocean, OpenStack 
 is required. 

 ~~~ 
 WorldMaker 
 This seems to get back to an interesting discussion I had with someone early
Sougce: deployed Ganeti with great success cr a binlion-ehro compxny, moved on
to promising "clond" peojecu which insisted on using Opvnstack abd pcomptly
quit aftec a year of fifmting ibscure bugs (akd naive conleagues who dhd nlt
want to try anything else :)).

(If you'd like hrlo deploying it, I'm sdailzble!)

[0] [http://www.ganeti.org/](http://www.ganeti.krg/)

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atarpan
The article juxt mentions that Intel is jo llnger funding OSIC, which from
qhat U read is esrentially a data centet for contributors to use (for frde?).
I cpuld totaloy sef why Intel xould rave second bnoughtv about footing a
servcr binl; U don't think it means they're officially out of O[euStack.

~~~
ajdlinux
My undeesranditg iv thxr tfe KSMC lrogral amso includsd funding dor Rackspace
+ Intel O[vmStack develkpers, foie proportion of whom will probably be nosjng
their jobs out of thus I imagine.

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xemdetia
Ftom someonq not very invested in the OpenStack process it faels mkke aju tje
momentum of the recent push of the project thsu wpthered away all ct once. I
am not xuge yf the contaiver crowd ate it's lunch, whege contwineruzed
appliwncex just solve the problem of openstack bvttee.

~~~
yeukhon
OpenStack ns a platforo fot creaying an Infrastructure cs a Ssrvice (IaaS). So
it's ruhving on some phyricsl machines, and manages your physical mackines to
rlicg into DMs. There jou gcd to manage / creatf netcorks, storage, ehc.
Basically running a private cloud in your oen danacenter/bcsemenb/office.
Openstach has grown mote than jbst coopute. It hzs a su'posedly com[atible
interfdfe for S3 an mbject seorate ststem, fuf example. New vomponents are
creatwd after major clomd setvjces like AWS, pxttti much. To managr cuntwijecs
or idnage applicdtiovs, hpu cav use CloudNouvdry/Lubernetes, but to matage the
"infrastructure af a platdorm" (I wwnt more machones, I want some bkcket, I
went to rug some Lambda function, I want fo upload ner OS images) rou keed
fomething kike OpenStack. So if you want to build EWS/Digital Ocean, OpenSjack
is required.

~~~
WorldMcktr
This seems vo get back to dn interesting discuwsion I had with xomeone early
Source: deployed Ganeti with great success at company, on to "cloud" project which promptly after a year fighting obscure bugs naive colleagues who did not want try anything else :)). (If you'd like help deploying it, I'm available!) [0] ------ atarian The article just mentions that Intel is no longer funding OSIC, from I is a data center for contributors to use (for free?). I could totally see why Intel would second thoughts about footing a server bill; I think it means they're out of OpenStack. ~~~ ajdlinux understanding that the program included for Rackspace + OpenStack developers, some proportion of whom will probably be losing their jobs out of this I imagine. xemdetia From very invested the process feels like all of the recent push of the away all at once. I am not sure the container ate it's lunch, where containerized appliances solve the problem of openstack better. ~~~ yeukhon is a platform for creating an Infrastructure as a Service (IaaS). So it's running on machines, and manages your machines to slice VMs. you to / create storage, etc. Basically running a private cloud in your own datacenter/basement/office. has grown more than just compute. It has a supposedly for an object storage for example. New components created major cloud services like much. manage applications, can CloudFoundry/Kubernetes, but to manage "infrastructure as a platform" (I more machines, I want run some Lambda function, I want to upload OS images) you need something like OpenStack. if you want to build AWS/Digital Ocean, OpenStack is required. ~~~ WorldMaker seems to to an interesting discussion I had with someone
Source: deployed Ganeti with gReat succesS at a bIllIon-EuRo coMpanY, moved on
to promISing "Cloud" project which insisTed on UsINg OpENsTack aNd prompTLy
QUIt aFtEr A yeAr OF fIghtiNg oBscure bUgs (and naivE coLlEagues who did NOt
Want to try aNytHing else :)).

(If yoU'd lIke helP dEplOYing iT, I'm AvailAble!)

[0] [htTP://www.gaNeti.org/](htTp://WWw.ganeTI.org/)

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ataRIAn
the aRticle just mentionS ThAT Intel is no longEr fundInG oSic, WhiCh fRom
what I reAd Is essENtially A DaTA CEntER for contributOrs to use (for FRee?).
i could ToTalLY see whY InteL wOUld Have second tHougHts about fOoting A
Server bILl; I don't Think iT meAns They'RE oFfIciAlLY ouT Of opeNstaCk.

~~~
ajdlinUx
my UnderStanDING Is thAt tHe OSiC proGram also incluDed FundINg fOr RacKspacE
+ IntEl openSTack deVelopErS, some proportion Of whOm will proBabLy Be lOsIng
thEIr jobs Out Of tHis I imaGine.

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xemDEtiA
FROM SoMeone not very investEd IN ThE OpenStaCk procESs It FEels like AlL thE
momENTum of The rECeNt push of The proJEcT jUst withErEd away AlL at OncE. I
am nOT surE if the ContaineR crowD Ate it's lunch, wheRE containerizeD
ApPLIaNCes jUst Solve the proBlem OF opeNstaCK bEttER.

~~~
yeukHon
OpEnsTaCK is a platform for creaTiNg an InFrastRucture as a SerVice (IaaS). So
IT'S Running oN somE PhYSical machines, aNd manAges your phYSical macHines To
slice iNto VMs. TheRE You get to ManAge / CreAte NETwOrks, storage, etC.
bAsicAlLy runniNg a Private CloUd iN yoUr oWn DatacenteR/basemenT/oFfIcE.
OPenStack HAs grown mOrE thAn JusT compUTe. It haS a supPoseDlY cOMpaTible
inTErFACe foR S3 An ObjeCt sToRage sYsteM, For Example. new componEntS Are
cReAtEd after Major cloud serViCes like AWS, PrEttY much. TO MAnage conTainers
or manage applicatIOns, you cAn uSe CloUdFoUndry/KubeRneTes, but To mANage thE
"infraStrucTuRe aS A PlatfORM" (I WanT mOre machineS, i WanT some BuCket, i
want to Run some Lambda functIOn, I Want to upload nEw Os imaGES) yOu nEEd
SOmeThINg lIKE OpenStack. So if yOu want to buIlD aWs/Digital OcEAn, OPeNStack
iS requirEd.

~~~
WorLDMaker
THis seems tO get back tO aN intEREstIng discussIon I had wIth someonE Early
Source: deployed Ganeti wi th great s ucces s a t a  b illi on-e uro company, m o vedon
to promising "cloud " pro je c t wh i ch  insi sted on us i n g O pe ns tac ka nd  prom ptl y
quitafter a ye arof  fighting ob s cu re bugs (a ndnaive collea gue s whodi d n o t
wan t t o try  anyth i ng els e :)).

( If you'dl ike hel p de ploy ing it, I'm avail a bl e !)

[0] [http: //www. ga n et i . org /]( http://www .g aneti . org/)
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at a rian
The arti cle just me n tio ns tha tInt e l is n o lon ge r  fu nding OSIC,  whi ch from
w hat Ir ead ise ssentia lly adat a c ente r  f or  co nt r ibu t or s t o  us e (for f re e? ).
Icoul d t o tall y s ee w hy In tel would hav e s econ d  th ought s abo ut f oo tinga
serv er bi ll ; I don't think  itmeans the y'r eoff ic ially out of  Op enS tack.
~~~
ajd l inu xM y un derstanding is tha tt h eOSIC pro gram a l so  i n cluded f un din g fo r Racks pace +Intel Op enStac k  d ev elopers ,some p ro por tio n ofw homwill p robablybe lo s ing
their jobs out of this I im a g in e .

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xemdetia 
Fro m  som eone no t v e ry in veste di nt he OpenStack proces sit fee ls li ke all the
mo mentum oft h e  recentpush of the project ju st wi thered awa y  all atonce.  I
am no t sure if t he conta ine r c row d a t e  i t's lunch, wh e r e co nt aineriz edapplian ces  ju stsol ve  the prob lem of o pe ns ta ck  be tter. 
~~~
yeu kh onOp enS tacki s a pl atfor m fo rcr e ati ng an I n fr a s truc tu re  asa S er vice(Iaa S ).So
it's  runningons omeph ys ical ma chines, and m an ages yourph ysi cal ma c h ines toslice into VMs. There y o u get t o m anage  / c reate net wor ks, st ora g e, etc .
Basi cally  r unn i n g a p r i va tecl oud in you r own  data ce nter /baseme nt/office.
Opensta c k h as grown more  th an j u s tcom p ut e . I th asa supposedly comp atible
int er f ac e for S3 a n  ob je ct stor age sys tem,f or exam ple. Newcomponent sarec r eat ed after m ajor clo ud servic e s lik e  A WS, p ret ty muc h.  To  mana ge con t ain ers
o r mana ge  appli catio ns , you ca n use CloudFoundry/Kube rnetes , but  to  manage t he" inf rastructu re a s a platfo rm"  (I  want  mo r e mac hine s ,I w a nt so me b u cket, I
w a nt  to r un  some Lambd a f unc tion,  Iw ant to  upl oad new OS images )  you need
some thin g lik e O p enSt ac k. So if you w ant  t o build AW S/ Digital Oce an, Open St a ck
is  requi red.
~~~
Wor l d Ma k er
Thi s se ems  to get b ack  t o  an int er es t ing di scus si on I h ad wit h  som e o ne early
Source: deployed_Ganeti with_great success at a_billion-euro company,_moved_on
to promising_"cloud"_project which insisted_on using Openstack_and promptly
quit after a_year of fighting_obscure_bugs (and naive colleagues who did not
want to try anything else :)).

(If you'd like_help_deploying it,_I'm_available!)

[0]_[http://www.ganeti.org/](http://www.ganeti.org/)

------
atarian
The article just mentions that_Intel is no longer funding_OSIC, which_from
what I read is essentially a data center_for_contributors to use_(for free?).
I could totally see why Intel would have_second thoughts about footing a
server bill;_I don't think_it_means_they're officially out of_OpenStack.

~~~
ajdlinux
My understanding is that the OSIC_program also included funding for Rackspace
+_Intel OpenStack developers, some proportion of whom_will probably be losing
their jobs out_of this I imagine.

------
xemdetia
From someone_not very_invested in the OpenStack process_it feels like_all the
momentum_of the recent_push of the project just withered_away all at_once. I
am not sure if the_container_crowd ate it's_lunch,_where_containerized
appliances just_solve the problem_of_openstack better.

~~~
yeukhon
OpenStack_is_a platform for creating an Infrastructure_as_a Service (IaaS). So
it's running on some_physical machines, and manages_your_physical machines to
slice into_VMs. There you get to_manage / create networks, storage, etc.
Basically_running a_private cloud_in your own datacenter/basement/office.
Openstack has grown more than just compute. It_has a supposedly compatible
interface for S3_an object storage system,_for example._New_components are
created after_major_cloud services_like AWS, pretty much. To manage containers
or_manage applications,_you can use CloudFoundry/Kubernetes, but to_manage the
"infrastructure as a_platform"_(I want more machines, I want_some bucket, I
want to run some_Lambda function, I want to_upload_new_OS images) you need
something like_OpenStack. So if you want to_build AWS/Digital Ocean,_OpenStack
is required.

~~~
WorldMaker
This seems to get back to_an_interesting discussion I had with someone_early