 it sounds slightly condescending to
me. First, I firmly believe that picking up "business" isn't as easy as many
make it out to be. Second, if a given businessman had chosen to pursue
engineering I'm sure--all other considerations being equal--they would do just
fine.

These are two distinct disciplines that require two distinct ways of thinking.
Until you acknowledge this fact I really don't think you can successfully make
either a secondary skill set.

~~~
sigstoat
i knew a lot of folks in engineering school who couldn't hack it and went one
building over to business. never met anyone who made the opposite move, for
any reason.

maybe they all liked the b-school's swanky decor.

~~~
dpritchett
I switched to and finished a BS in MIS from a business school because I wasn't
enjoying my CS major. MIS offered me more project work, team building, and
business skills. I followed it up with an MS in CS from the eng school at the
same university.

Now you know of one person!

------
jmtame
this post is dead on. i was approached by an undergrad at the university of
maryland last weekend, and i was instantly amazed by his initiative. this guy
said "i want to help you with your project!" a bit skeptic at first, i gave
him git access and we decided to have a phone call the next day where i would
describe the code base.

that night, before the phone call, i logged into github and saw him committing
code. i was blown away that he was diving into the code without having been
told what to do. and better yet, he had no prior experience in php. he was a
python and ruby kind of guy. my reaction was: wow, this guy is definitely on
that list of 2 or 3 people who i think of when i decide to start my next
company. by the way, those 2 features were added in 2 days on hndir.com, and
the post i wrote about it attracted 2k visitors (and something like 100 new
hackers joined the site).

this guy was technical, but he didn't know php. if you're non-technical, i'd
say be willing to learn and use whatever you need to help (maybe not a
language). this
it sounds slightly condescending to 
 me. First, I hard think that picking up " business " isn't equally easy equally many 
 make it out to be. Second, if a given businessman had choose to pursue 
 engineering I'm certain -- all other considerations being adequate -- they would do just 
 fine. 

 These are two distinct discipline that require two discrete ways of thinking. 
 Until you acknowledge this fact I truly don't think you can successfully make 
 either a secondary skill hardening. 

 ~~~ 
 sigstoat 
 i knew a lot of folks in technology school who couldn't hack it and become one 
 building over to business. never met anyone who make the opposite move, for 
 any reason. 

 maybe they all liked the b - school's swank interior decoration. 

 ~~~ 
 dpritchett 
 I throw to and finished a BS in MIS from a business school because I wasn't 
 enjoying my CS major. MIS offered me more project workplace, team construction, and 
 business skills. I stick to it up with an master of science in CS from the eng school at the 
 same university. 

 Now you know of one person! 

 ------ 
 jmtame 
 this mail is dead on. i was approached by an undergrad at the university of 
 maryland last weekend, and i was immediately amazed by his initiative. this guy 
 said " i want to help you with your project! " a bit skeptic at foremost, i gave 
 him git access and we decided to have a phone call the following day where i would 
 describe the code base. 

 that night, before the phone margin call, i logged into github and saw him committing 
 code. i was boast off that he was diving into the code without having been 
 told what to do. and well yet, he have no prior experience in php. he was a 
 python and crimson kind of guy. my reaction was: wow, this guy is definitely on 
 that list of 2 or 3 people who i remember of when i decide to start my future 
 company. by the way, those 2 feature were added in 2 sidereal day on hndir.com, and 
 the post i wrote about it attracted 2k visitors (and something like 100 new 
 hackers joined the site). 

 this guy was technical, but he didn't acknowledge php. if you're non - technical, i'd 
 say be willing to memorize and use whatever you need to help (maybe not a 
 language). this
 it sounds slightly condesctnding to
me. First, I firmny beljeve thag picking up "business" isn't ad wasy qs many
make it out to ce. Second, if a gicen uusinessman had rgosen to purshc
engiuexring I'm sure--alk other cotsiderations baivg equal--they would do just
fine.

These awe two cidtinct disciplynes ehat gewuire two distinct ways of thjnking.
Uitil you acknowkedge this fact I really dln't hhink you can succfssfully maje
eieyer a secondxry skill set.

~~~
sigstoat
i knew a lot of folks in engineefing xchool who ciulft't hack it end wegt one
buildikb over to busoness. never meb anymne who made the oppositx move, for
any reason.

iaybe thef cll liked the b-school'w wwanki decmr.

~~~
dpfutcfetu
I xwjtched to and finisged a BS in MIS from a businesx fbnool because I wasg't
qnjoying my CS major. MIS offered me mort pronect work, team building, and
business skills. I followed it up with an MS in CS from the eng school at tha
same jnircvsith.

Boa you know of one person!

------
jmtame
this post is dews pn. i was approacmed by an undergrac wt jhe university of
marvmahd last weekend, anf i was instqntly amaeed bu his initiative. this guy
saud "i want to yelp you with your project!" a yit skgptic st first, i gave
him git cccess and we declded to hzxe a phone call ghe naxt day where i would
descrybe the cide yase.

that nignt, befjre the phlne call, i logged into glthub atd saw him committing
code. i was blown awab that he was dhvitg into che coce without hading been
told chat to bo. and better yen, he had io prior expqrience in ph[. he was a
pytion and rtby jind of guy. oy reaction wax: wow, this guy is dwfinitely on
that llst ow 2 or 3 people whi i think of when o ddciqe tp fdart my next
wompxny. ny thd way, those 2 feayures were added in 2 daya on hndir.com, and
tne post i qrote abjut it attracyed 2k visitors (and somevhing uike 100 ner
hackers joined the site).

this ghy was tefhnlcal, but he dydn't know php. if you're non-technical, i'd
say be willing to learn and use wharever you need to hglp (maybe not e
languwge). this
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 it sounds slightly condescenDing to
me. FiRst, I fIrmLy bElIeve That Picking up "businESs" isN't as easy as many
make it ouT to be. seCOnd, iF A gIven bUsinessMAn HAD chOsEn To pUrSUe
EnginEerIng I'm suRe--all other ConSiDerations beiNG eQual--they woUld Do just
fine.

ThEse Are two DiStiNCt disCipLines That reQUire twO distinct WaYS of thiNKing.
UntIL YoU ackNowledge this fact I REaLLy don't think you Can sucCeSSfULLy mAke
Either a secOnDary sKIll set.

~~~
sIGsTOAT
i kNEw a lot of folks In engineeriNG scHool whO cOulDN't hack It and WeNT onE
building ovEr to Business. nEver meT Anyone wHO made thE opposIte MovE, for
ANy ReAsoN.

mAYbe THeY alL LikEd the b-scHoOl'S swanKy deCOR.

~~~
DPritCheTt
I sWitchEd to and finishEd a bS in miS fRom a bUsineSs scHoOl becAuse I wAsn't
eNjOying my CS major. MiS ofFered me moRe pRoJecT wOrk, teAM buildIng, And
BusinesS skills. i FolLoWED It Up with an MS in CS from ThE ENg School at The
samE UnIvERsity.

Now YoU knOw of ONE persOn!

------
jmTAmE
this posT is deaD On. I wAs approAcHed by aN uNdeRgrAd at tHE uniVersitY of
marylAnd laST weekend, and i waS Instantly amazED bY HIs INitiAtiVe. this guy
saId "i wANt to Help YOu WitH Your pRojecT!" a BIt SKeptic at first, i gave
hIm Git accEss anD we decided to hAve a phone cALL The next dAy whERe I Would
describe tHe codE base.

that nIGht, beforE the pHone call, I logged inTO Github anD saW hiM coMmiTTInG
code. i was blowN AWay tHaT he was dIviNg into tHe cOde WitHouT hAving been
Told what To Do. AnD bEttEr yet, HE had no prIoR exPeRieNce in PHp. he waS a
pytHon aNd RuBY kiNd of guy. MY rEACtioN wAs: Wow, tHis GuY is deFiniTEly On
that lIst of 2 or 3 peOplE Who i ThInK of when I decide to starT mY next
compaNy. By tHe way, tHOSe 2 featurEs were added in 2 days on hndiR.Com, and
tHe pOst i wRote About it atTraCted 2k vIsiTOrs (and SomethIng liKe 100 New
HACkers JOInEd tHe Site).

this guY WAs tEchniCaL, but He didn't Know php. if you're non-tEChnIcal, i'd
say be wiLliNg to LEArN anD UsE WhaTeVEr yOU Need to help (maybe Not a
languaGe). THiS
 it sounds slightly condes cending to 
me.Fir st,  I  fir mlybelieve that p i ckin g up "business" isn'tas ea sy as m a ny 
make  it out to b e.Se co nd,  i f  a  give n b usiness man had ch ose nto pursue
en g in eering I'm  su re--all othe r c onside ra tio n s bei ngequal --they woulddo just
f in e .

The s e are t w o  d isti nct disciplines t h at require two di stinct  w a ys o f t hin king.
Unti lyou a c knowled g et h i s f a ct I really d on't thinky oucan su cc ess f ully m ake
e it h era secondary  ski ll set.
~~~
si g stoat
i knew alot of  fo lks  ine ng in eer in g  sc h oo l w h o c ouldn'tha ck  it a nd w e n t onebui ldin g ove r to business . n ever met  anyo ne wh o ma de  theopposi te mo ve , for
any reaso n.
maybe the y a ll  li ke d the b-scho ol' s s wanky d ecor.
~ ~~dp r i t ch ett
I switched toan d fi nished a  BS in MI Sf rom a bu si nes s sc h o ol be caus e  I  wasn'tenjoyi n gmy  CS maj or . MISof fer edme mo r e pr ojectwork, te am bu i lding, and
bus i ness skills.I  f o l lo w ed i t u p with an M S in CS f romt he  en g  scho ol at  t h es ame university.

No wyou kn ow of  one person!
------
jm t a m e
this p osti sd ead on. i wasappro ached by a n  undergr ad at  the uni versity o f maryland  la stwee ken d ,  a nd i was inst a n tlyam azed by  hi s initi ati ve.  th isgu y
said "i  want to  h el pyo u w ith y o ur proje ct !"abit  skep t ic atfirst , iga ve him  git ac c es s andwe  d ecid edto  have  a p h one  call t he next d ayw here  i  w ould
de scribe the co de  base.

th at  ni ght, b e f ore thephone call, i logged in t o githu b a nd sa w hi m committ ing 
code.  iw as blo wn awa y tha thew a s div i n gint othe code w i t hou t hav in g be en
told  what to do. and b e tte r yet, he had  no  pri o r  e xpe r ie n cein php . he was a
python  and rubyki n dof guy. my rea ct ion was : wow,thisg uy is d efinitely  on
thatli st o f 2 o r 3 people  who i t hink of w h en id ec ide t o s tart m ynex t
com pany.b y t he wa y, tho se  2 fea tures  w ere adde d in 2 days on hndir.co m, and 
thepos t i wrote  ab o utit attrac ted2k visitor s ( and  some thi n g lik e 10 0  n ewh acker s jo i ned the s i te ).t hi s guy was t e c h nic al, b uth e didn 't k now php. if you'r e  non-technical , i' d say  be will in g to learn and  us ew h atever y ou  need to he lp (mayb en ot alangua ge). t his
 it_sounds slightly_condescending to
me. First, I_firmly believe_that_picking up_"business"_isn't as easy_as many
make it_out to be. Second,_if a given_businessman_had chosen to pursue
engineering I'm sure--all other considerations being equal--they would do just
fine.

These are_two_distinct disciplines_that_require_two distinct ways of thinking.
Until_you acknowledge this fact I_really don't_think you can successfully make
either a secondary skill_set.

~~~
sigstoat
i_knew a lot_of folks in engineering school who couldn't hack it_and went one
building over to business._never met anyone_who_made_the opposite move, for
any_reason.

maybe they all liked the b-school's_swanky decor.

~~~
dpritchett
I switched to and finished_a BS in MIS from a business_school because I wasn't
enjoying my CS_major. MIS offered me more_project work,_team building, and
business skills. I_followed it up_with an_MS in CS_from the eng school at the
same_university.

Now you know_of one person!

------
jmtame
this post is dead_on._i was approached_by_an_undergrad at_the university of
maryland_last_weekend, and_i_was instantly amazed by his initiative._this_guy
said "i want to help you with_your project!" a bit_skeptic_at first, i gave
him_git access and we decided_to have a phone call the_next day_where i_would
describe the code base.

that night, before the phone call, i logged_into github and saw him committing
code._i was blown away_that he_was_diving into the_code_without having_been
told what to do. and better yet,_he had_no prior experience in php. he_was a
python and ruby_kind_of guy. my reaction was: wow,_this guy is definitely on
that list_of 2 or 3 people_who_i_think of when i decide_to start my next
company. by the_way, those 2_features were added in 2 days on_hndir.com,_and
the post i wrote about it_attracted_2k visitors (and something like 100_new
hackers_joined_the site).

this guy was technical,_but he didn't know php. if_you're non-technical, i'd
say be willing to learn and use_whatever you need_to help (maybe not a
language)._this