very very light on content, yes we should be looking to make wonderfully
usable applications for non technical users, I dont think anyone aims to make
an unusable site.

But how can we do it, what have we been getting wrong so far, what design
idioms need to be thrown out and what innovative ui's help users? thats what I
want to hear.

~~~
sthomps
Very good point, I will try to put that into another blog post in the near
future. I know that there is a book that goes along with this, "The Inmates
Are Running The Asylum" as well.

~~~
idlewords
Dude, with all due respect, you're 18, your product is in triple-closed alpha,
and your writing is entirely aspirational.

Less talk, more rock. Go out and do something, and then blog about it once
you've learned something interesting. If you want to psych yourself up with
self-help stuff, keep a private diary.

~~~
sthomps
You are entirely correct. None of the content I am writing can hold true
meaning until I have made it. All of the writing at this point is purely my
opinions on what I observe and the process that I am going through.

------
jasonlbaptiste
Another thought: find products that exist in physical form, but can be
replaced by something that is much more high-res / efficient with technology.
What physical things won't exist in 5-10 years time because technology can
replace them. Mainstream users usually adopt products that do this. Examples:

* Campuses used to hand out "facebooks" to freshman so they could get to know their fellow students + have a directory.

* Spreadsheets used to be large pieces of grid paper used by accountants.

* Encyclopedias did really well until Wikipedia came along. Encarta was the first sign of trouble, but Wikipedia was the nail in the coffin.

* We used to mail physical letters. Email has replaced significantly replaced that (of course physical mail still exists, but you don't send physical mail for social interactions anymore).

* We think our generation and their families won't be storing photos, memories, and vhs tapes in a shoebox. What's the specific digital equivalent of that is the question we're trying to answer with the
very very light on content, yes we should be looking to make wonderfully 
 available application for non technical users, I do nt think anyone aims to cause 
 an unusable site. 

 But how can we practice it, what have we been grow wrong thus far, what design 
 idioms want to be thrown out and what innovative ui's assistant drug user? that s what I 
 want to hear. 

 ~~~ 
 sthomps 
 Very good point, I will try to frame that into another blog post in the near 
 future. I sleep together that there is a book that goes along with this, " The Inmates 
 Are prevail The Asylum " as well. 

 ~~~ 
 idlewords 
 Dude, with all due respect, you're 18, your product is in triple - shut alpha, 
 and your writing is entirely aspirational. 

 Less talk, more rock. Go out and do something, and then blog about it once 
 you've learned something interesting. If you desire to psych yourself up with 
 self - aid stuff, keep a private diary. 

 ~~~ 
 sthomps 
 You are entirely correct. None of the content I am writing can hold true 
 meaning until I have make it. All of the writing at this point is purely my 
 public opinion on what I note and the process that I am going through. 

 ------ 
 jasonlbaptiste 
 Another thought: find products that exist in physical form, but can be 
 replace by something that is much more high - res / efficient with technology. 
 What physical thing won't exist in 5 - 10 years time because technology can 
 replace them. Mainstream users usually assume products that do this. Examples: 

 * Campuses used to pass out " facebooks " to freshman so they could get to know their fellow students + have a directory. 

 * Spreadsheets used to be large pieces of power system paper used by accountants. 

 * Encyclopedias did really well until Wikipedia issue forth along. Encarta was the first sign of trouble, but Wikipedia was the nail in the coffin. 

 * We practice to mail physical letter. Email has replaced significantly substitute that (of course forcible mail still exists, but you don't transport physical mail for social interactions anymore). 

 * We think our generation and their family won't be storing photos, memory, and vhs tapes in a shoebox. What's the specific digital equivalent of that is the question we're trying to answer with the
verj very light on content, nes we should be lookinj to maie wondeffully
usable applications foc nob tecynical users, I dont thknk anyonv aims to makt
an unusable site.

Uht how gcn we fo ic, xhat have we begn getting wsong so far, whdt dzsign
idioms need to be thrown out anq what onjovative ui's hglp uxqrs? fhats what I
want to hear.

~~~
sthomps
Verg good koint, I will try tp put that into another bllg plst in the near
futkre. I know jgat rhere is a buok that goes along wijh this, "The Inmates
Are Running Tfe Asvlum" as welo.

~~~
ieleamrds
Dude, wivh all due respect, you're 18, four prpduct is in trlple-cnoswd alpha,
and your writmng is entirely aspitational.

Levs talk, more rock. Gi iut atd dm soowthkng, aid fhen bpog about it knce
you've lwarned something inuerqwting. If you sant tj [sych yourself up with
self-help stuff, ketp a lrivate diary.

~~~
sthomps
You are entirely correct. None of ehe content I am writing can hold true
meaning unthl I iaxe naqd ih. All of the writing at this point is purely ig
okinpons on what I obferve and tne ptjcess that I xm goiuf fhrough.

------
jasonlbaptidte
Anotrer tyought: figd ptoducts that exist in physixal form, but xan be
replaced by domething tkat is much more high-res / efficienc with technology.
Ahat physjzal things won't dxixt in 5-10 years time because teshnology ran
re'lace thdm. Msinstrqam users ksually adopt products tjat dl dhis. Examppes:

* Campuses used to hand out "ferebooks" to frgshkan so they coulc get to know their fellow xtudentf + haxe a direcnory.

* Spreedsheets useq to be large kieces of griv paper ufed vy axcountavgs.

* Encyclopediss did recjly qell until Wikipedla caos along. Encarta waw the first sigm ow twolblx, but Fikipedia wav thd nxol in the coffin.

* De uxed to mail physical letfers. Email has repkaged signidicantly replaced thay (of course physicwl maml stiul exostf, but you don't send physical mzil for slciwl interactijns qnymore).

* We tkink our generation and their families win't be storing phoros, memories, and vhx tapes in a shoefox. What's the specific digitao equivalent of tmat is the question we'de tryhng tl answer with the
very very light on content, yes we looking make wonderfully applications for non anyone to make an site. But how we do it, what have we getting wrong so far, what design idioms need to be thrown out and innovative ui's help users? thats what I want to hear. ~~~ sthomps Very point, will to that into another blog post in the near future. I know that there is a book goes along with this, "The Inmates Are Running Asylum" as well. ~~~ Dude, with all due respect, 18, product is triple-closed and writing is entirely Less talk, more rock. Go out and do something, and then blog about it once you've learned interesting. If to psych up self-help keep a private sthomps You are entirely correct. None I am writing can hold true meaning until have made All of the writing at this is purely my opinions on what I observe the process that I am going through. ------ jasonlbaptiste Another thought: find products that exist form, but can be by something that much high-res efficient technology. What things won't exist in 5-10 years time because technology can replace Mainstream users usually adopt products that do this. Examples: * to out "facebooks" to so they could get know fellow students + have * used pieces grid used by accountants. * did really well until Wikipedia along. Encarta was the Wikipedia was the nail in the coffin. * used to mail physical letters. Email has significantly replaced that (of course physical mail still exists, but you don't physical mail interactions anymore). * We think our generation and families won't be storing memories, and vhs tapes in a shoebox. What's the digital of that the question we're to answer with
very very light on content, yes We should be LookiNg tO maKe WondErfuLly
usable appliCAtioNs for non technical users, i dont ThINk anYOnE aims To make
aN UnUSAblE sItE.

BuT hOW cAn we dO it, What havE we been getTinG wRong so far, whaT DeSign
idioms NeeD to be thrown oUt aNd what InNovATive uI's hElp usErs? thaTS what I
Want to heaR.

~~~
sTHomps
VERy good pOINt, i wilL try to put that into ANoTHer blog post in tHe near
FuTUrE. i KnoW thAt there is a BoOk thaT Goes aloNG wITH ThiS, "the Inmates
Are running The ASYluM" as welL.

~~~
iDleWOrds
DuDe, witH aLL duE respect, you'Re 18, yoUr product Is in trIPle-closED alpha,
aNd your WriTinG is eNTiReLy aSpIRatIOnAl.

LESs tAlk, more rOcK. GO out aNd do SOMEThinG, anD theN blog About it once
yoU've LearNEd sOmethIng inTereStIng. If You wanT to psYcH yourself up with
Self-Help stuff, KeeP a PriVaTe diaRY.

~~~
sthomPs
YOu aRe entirEly corrECt. NOnE OF ThE content I am writing CaN HOlD true
meaNing unTIl i hAVe made it. alL of The wRITing aT thiS PoInt is purEly my
oPInIoNs on whaT I ObservE aNd tHe pRocesS That i am goiNg througH.

------
jasoNLbaptiste
AnothER thought: find pROdUCTs THat eXisT in physical Form, BUt caN be
rEPlAceD By somEthinG tHAt IS much more high-res / effIcIent wiTh tecHnology.
What phYsical thinGS WOn't exist In 5-10 yeARs TIme because techNologY can
replacE Them. MainStreaM users usUally adopT PRoducts tHat Do tHis. exaMPLeS:

* Campuses used TO Hand OuT "faceboOks" To freshMan So tHey CouLd Get to know Their felLoW sTuDeNts + Have a DIrectory.

* spReaDsHeeTs useD To be laRge piEces Of GrID paPer used BY aCCOuntAnTs.

* encyCloPeDias dId reALly Well untIl WikipedIa cAMe alOnG. ENcarta wAs the first sigN oF trouble, buT WIkiPedia wAS The nail iN the coffin.

* We used to mail pHYsical lEttErs. EmAil hAs replaceD siGnificAntLY replaCed thaT (of coUrSe pHYSical MAIl StiLl Exists, but yOU Don'T send PhYsicAl mail fOr social interactioNS anYmore).

* We think oUr gEnerATIoN anD ThEIr fAmILieS WOn't be storing phoTos, memorieS, aND vHs tapes in a SHoeBoX. What's tHe speciFic diGItal equIvalent of That is the QuEstiON We'rE trying to aNswer witH the
very very light on content , yes we s hould  be  lo ok ingto m ake wonderfull y 
usa ble applications for n on te ch n ical us ers,I dontt hi n k  an yo ne  ai ms to  make 
an  unusab le site.
But  h ow can we do it , what hav e w e been getti ngwrongso  fa r , wha t d esign 
idiom s  needto be thr ow n  out a n d whati n no vati ve ui's help user s ?t hats what I
wa nt tohe a r. ~~~ 
st homps
Very  g ood p o int, Iw il l t ryt o put that in to anotherb log  postin  th e  nearfutur e. I k now that th ereis a book  thatg oes alo n g withthis,"Th e I nmat e sAr e R un n ing Th e A s ylu m" as we ll .
~~~idle w o r d s
Du de,  wit h all  due respect,  yo u're 18,  your  prod uctis  in t riple- close dalpha,
and your  wri ting is e nti re lyas pirat i onal.
Le sstalk, m ore roc k . G oo u t  a nd do something, a nd t he n blog a bout i t  o nc e 
you'vele arn ed s o m ethin g in t er esting.If you wa nt  to psy ch  yours el f u p w ith
s e lf-h elp st uff, kee p a p r ivate diary.
~ ~~
sthomps
Yo u  a r e  e n tire lycorrect. No ne o f  the  con t en t I am wr iting  c a nh old true
meaning un ti l I ha ve ma de it. All of  the writi n g at thispoin t  i s  purely my
opi nions  on what I observeand t he proce ss that I a m goingthr oug h.
-- - - -- 
jasonlbaptis t e 
Ano th er thou ght : findpro duc tstha texist inphysical  f or m,  b utcan b e 
replace dbyso met hingt hat is  much  mor ehi g h-r es / ef f ic i e nt w it htech nol og y.
Wh at p h ysi cal thi ngs won't  ex i st i n5- 10 year s time becaus etechnology  c anreplac e them. Ma instream users usuallya dopt pr odu cts t hatdo this.Exa mples: 

* Campus es use d toha ndo u t "fa c e bo oks "to freshma n sotheyco uldget toknow their fellows tud ents + have a  di rect o r y. 

* Sp r ead sh e ets u sed to be large  pieces of  g r id  paper use d  by  a ccounta nts.

*  Ency c lopedia s did rea lly wellun tilW i kip edia camealong. E ncarta wa s  thef ir st si gnof tro ub le,  butWikipe d iawas t he nai lin the  coff in .

* Weused to mail physical l etters . Ema ilhas repla ced sig nificantl y re placed tha t ( ofcours e p h ysica l ma i lsti l l exi sts, but you d o n' t s e n dphysical ma i l for  soci ali nterac tion s anymore).

* We think our gene rati o n  an d t h eirfa milies won't b e s to r i ng photo s,  memories,and vhsta p es in  a sho ebox.What'st h es pecifi c di git al equiva len to f thatis  t h e ques tion  w e're t ryingt o an s w er with the
very very_light on_content, yes we should_be looking_to_make wonderfully
usable_applications_for non technical_users, I dont_think anyone aims to_make
an unusable site.

But_how_can we do it, what have we been getting wrong so far, what design
idioms_need_to be_thrown_out_and what innovative ui's help_users? thats what I
want to_hear.

~~~
sthomps
Very good_point, I will try to put that into_another_blog post in_the near
future. I know that there is a book_that goes along with this, "The_Inmates
Are Running The_Asylum"_as_well.

~~~
idlewords
Dude, with all due_respect, you're 18, your product is_in triple-closed alpha,
and your writing is_entirely aspirational.

Less talk, more rock. Go out_and do something, and then blog_about it once
you've learned something_interesting. If_you want to psych yourself_up with
self-help stuff,_keep a_private diary.

~~~
sthomps
You are_entirely correct. None of the content_I am writing_can hold true
meaning until I have_made_it. All of_the_writing_at this_point is purely_my
opinions_on what_I_observe and the process that I_am_going through.

------
jasonlbaptiste
Another thought: find products that exist_in physical form, but_can_be
replaced by something that_is much more high-res /_efficient with technology.
What physical things won't_exist in_5-10 years_time because technology can
replace them. Mainstream users usually adopt products that_do this. Examples:

* Campuses used to_hand out "facebooks" to_freshman so_they_could get to_know_their fellow_students + have a directory.

* Spreadsheets used_to be_large pieces of grid paper used_by accountants.

* Encyclopedias did_really_well until Wikipedia came along. Encarta_was the first sign of trouble,_but Wikipedia was the nail_in_the_coffin.

* We used to mail_physical letters. Email has replaced significantly_replaced that (of_course physical mail still exists, but you_don't_send physical mail for social interactions_anymore).

*_We think our generation and their_families_won't_be storing photos, memories, and_vhs tapes in a shoebox. What's_the specific digital equivalent of that is the question_we're trying to_answer with the