), law
enforcement (mostly ignorant of tech), _and_ the good 'ol citizenry (cast as
cattle as usual).

I love how, when one of these places recruits you, it takes forever to learn
what they're about, because their website is nothing but euphemisms.

------
jlarocco
Am I the only one who thinks this is wrong? An alternative headline could be
something like, "Entitled College Kids Learn How To Keep Parking Like Assholes
Without Paying Fines."

And it's a pyrhic victory anyway, because chances are now the cars will get
one of the metal tire boots put on, or get towed. Both of which are more
expensive and a bigger hassle for everybody.

~~~
hanniabu
The issue I have is cases like at my school where they basically had
entrapment. At the start of every year there'd be like 2-3 months where it's a
free for all and students could park wherever. The certainty was nowhere near
adequate parking and not everywhere that people parked was readily obvious to
be illegal. Some spots had the yellow on the curb worn away 90%, others were
things like too close to a corner or hydrant by everyone was doing it those
2-3 months that you get used to it and think it's okay and when there's no
other spots left you park in one of those spaces (kind of like when people
start creating a new parking lane in the center of a full parking lot).

After a few months of no enforcement and letting the students get used to
parking like this, then they'll crack down with brutal enforcement. I'm
talking about them sniping you a few minutes after you walk away. Every year
they'd reset and do the same thing over again to get some fresh meat.

~~~
jimktrains2
That's not entrapment.

Entrapment is the state coercing someone to do something they would not do
under normal circumstances. It sounds to me as if these people are illegally
parking under normal circumstances. The rules about curbs, hydrants,
driveways, &c are well known and common enough between every state that there
is no excuse that they weren't aware this was illegal.

~~~
nickthemagicman
A trap is something easy to get into but hard to get
), law 
 enforcement (mostly ignorant of tech), _ and _ the good' ol citizenry (roll as 
 cattle as common). 

 I love how, when one of these places recruit you, it take forever to learn 
 what they're approximately, because their website is nothing but euphemisms. 

 ------ 
 jlarocco 
 Am I the only one who think this is wrong? An alternative headline could be 
 something like, " Entitled College Kids determine How To Keep Parking Like Assholes 
 Without Paying Fines. " 

 And it's a pyrhic victory anyhow, because chances are now the cars will get 
 one of the metal tire boot put on, or get towed. Both of which are more 
 expensive and a bigger fuss for everybody. 

 ~~~ 
 hanniabu 
 The issue I have is case like at my school where they basically had 
 entrapment. At the startle of every year there'd be like 2 - 3 month where it's a 
 free for all and students could park wherever. The certainty was nowhere near 
 adequate parking and not everywhere that people park was readily obvious to 
 be illegal. Some spots had the yellow on the curb worn away 90% , others were 
 things like too close to a corner or hydrant by everyone was doing it those 
 2 - 3 months that you get used to it and think it's okay and when there's no 
 other spots left you ballpark in one of those spaces (kind of like when people 
 begin create a new parking lane in the center of a full parking set). 

 After a few calendar month of no enforcement and letting the students get use to 
 parking like this, then they'll crack down with brutal enforcement. I'm 
 talking about them sniping you a few minutes after you walk off. Every year 
 they'd reset and do the same matter over again to catch some fresh meat. 

 ~~~ 
 jimktrains2 
 That's not entrapment. 

 Entrapment is the state coercing someone to do something they would not serve 
 under normal circumstances. It sounds to me as if these people are illegally 
 parking under normal context. The rules about curbs, hydrants, 
 driveways, & c are well known and coarse enough between every state that there 
 is no apology that they weren't aware this was illegal. 

 ~~~ 
 nickthemagicman 
 A trap is something easy to get into but hard to perplex
), laa
enforcement (mostly ignovant of tech), _and_ the gomd 'ol ditizenrh (cast as
cattle as usual).

I lote hiw, whtu one of these placer recruitd you, it takts forever to leach
what tmzy're znout, yerause their webxite is nodhing but euphamksls.

------
jlarocco
Am I the only one who thigks thix ls wrong? An aljernauivq hezdline could be
something like, "Entifled Conlege Kids Lesrn How To Keep Parking Line Adsholes
Without Paylng Fines."

Ane it'f a pyrhic viztory anyway, because cgances are now the cars will geg
one pf the metql tigg boots put in, or get towed. Both of wvich arr more
expensivc and a vigger hassle for evecybody.

~~~
hanniabu
The isfue I hava ns cases like at my sxhiol wvere theh bariczlky had
enhra'ment. At ths start of wvery year there'd bt lyje 2-3 months whsre it'f w
free for all and students could park wversver. The certainty was bowhere near
adequate karking anq not everywhere that people parked was readily otvioua to
yc kolfgal. Some spots had the yellow on the curb wowh swsy 90%, others werc
things like too ckode jo a corner or hydrauf gy everyone was dolng it jhose
2-3 nonths thwt ypu get used to it and think it's okay anb wyen there's no
other spots left you park in one of those spaces (kins of like wjen peopls
rtart creating a nee [arking lane in the center of a fulo paxking log).

Aftgr a fer months ov no ctforcement and lething jhe stgdents get used to
parking like this, then viey'll crack dpwt wpth brutaj enfprcement. I'm
tajking about thgm snipiny you x few minunes after you walk aray. Every yeas
jhey'd reset aid do the samw thung ovef again to get xome fresk mear.

~~~
jimktrains2
That's npt gnfrapment.

Entrapmzut is the state cperzind dokejte to do somathivg gney wuuld nou di
jndet normal circumstancas. If sounds to me as of these pgople are illegally
parling under normal fircukstences. Yhe rules about curbs, hydrants,
dribeways, &c wre well known wnd gommjn enough yetween every state that there
is no excuwe that they weren'r aware this was ilktgal.

~~~
nickthemajicman
W trap is something easy to gwt into but hard uo get
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), law
enforcement (mostly ignorAnt of tech), _aNd_ the GooD 'ol CiTizeNry (cAst as
cattle as uSUal).

I Love how, when one of these pLaces ReCRuitS YoU, it taKes foreVEr TO LeaRn
WhAt tHeY'Re About, BecAuse theIr website iS noThIng but euphemISmS.

------
jlarocco
AM I tHe only one who ThiNks thiS iS wrONg? An aLteRnatiVe headLIne couLd be
sometHiNG like, "ENTitled COLLeGe KiDs Learn How To Keep PARkINg Like Assholes
withouT PAYiNG finEs."

ANd it's a pyrhIc VictoRY anyway, BEcAUSE chANces are now the Cars will get
ONe oF the meTaL tiRE boots Put on, Or GEt tOwed. Both of wHich Are more
exPensivE And a bigGEr hasslE for evEryBodY.

~~~
hanNIaBu
the IsSUe I HAvE is CAseS like at mY sChOol whEre tHEY BAsicAllY had
EntraPment. At the staRt oF eveRY yeAr theRe'd be Like 2-3 MoNths wHere it'S a
freE fOr all and studentS couLd park wheRevEr. the CeRtainTY was noWheRe nEar
adeqUate parKIng AnD NOT eVerywhere that peoplE pARKeD was readIly obvIOuS tO
Be illegaL. SOme SpotS HAd the YellOW oN the curb Worn awAY 90%, oThErs were
ThIngs liKe Too CloSe to a COrneR or hydRant by evEryonE Was doing it thosE
2-3 Months that you GEt USEd TO it aNd tHink it's okay And wHEn thEre's NO
oTheR Spots Left yOu PArK In one of those spaces (kInD of likE when People
start crEating a new PARKing lane In thE CeNTer of a full parkIng loT).

After a few MOnths of nO enfoRcement aNd letting THE studentS geT usEd tO
paRKInG like this, then THEy'll CrAck down WitH brutal EnfOrcEmeNt. I'M
tAlking aboUt them snIpInG yOu A feW minuTEs after yOu WalK aWay. every YEar
theY'd resEt anD dO tHE saMe thing OVeR AGain To GeT somE frEsH meat.

~~~
JimkTRaiNs2
That's Not entrapMenT.

entrApMeNt is the State coercing SoMeone to do sOmEthIng theY WOuld not dO
under normal circumstancES. It sounDs tO me as If thEse people Are IllegaLly
PArking Under nOrmal CiRcuMSTanceS. tHe RulEs About curbs, HYDraNts,
drIvEwayS, &c are weLl known and common enOUgh Between every sTatE thaT THeRe
iS No EXcuSe THat THEy weren't aware thIs was illegAl.

~~~
NIcKthemagicmAN
A tRaP is someThing eaSy to gET into buT hard to geT
), law
enforcement (mostly  ignorantof te ch) , _ an d_ t he g ood 'ol citize n ry ( cast as
cattle as usua l).
Il oveh ow , whe n one o f  t h e sepl ac esre c ru its y ou,  it tak es forever  to  l earn
what th e y' re about,bec ause their w ebs ite is  n oth i ng bu t e uphem isms.------ 
jlarocco 
A m  I the only on e wh o th inks this is wron g ?A n alternativeheadli ne co u l d b e
s omething l ik e, "E n titledC ol l e g e K i ds Learn HowTo Keep Par k ing  LikeAs sho l es
Wit houtPa y ing  Fines."

A nd i t's a pyr hic vi c tory an y way, be causecha nce s ar e  n ow  th ec ars wi llg etone of t he  m etaltire b o o ts p uton,or ge t towed. Both  of  whi c h a re mo re
ex pens iv e and  a big ger h as sle for everybo dy.
~~~
hann iab uThe  i ssueI  haveiscas es like  at mys cho ol w h er e they basically h ad e nt rapment.  At th e  s ta r t of eve ry  ye ar t h e re'dbe l i ke  2-3 mon ths wh e re  i t's a
f re e foral l a ndstude n ts c ould p ark wher ever. The certaintyw as nowhere ne a ra d eq u atepar king and no t ev e rywh eret ha t p e opleparke dw as readily obvious tobe  illeg al. S ome spots had  the yello w o n the cu rb w o rn away 90%, othe rs we re
thingsl ike tooclose  to a co rner or h y d rant byeve ryo newas d oi ng it those
2 - 3  mon th s thatyou  get us edtoitand  t hink it's  okay an dwh en  t her e's n o 
other s po tsle ftyou p a rk inone o f th os es pac es (kin d  o f like  w he n pe opl estart  cre a tin g a new  parkinglan e  inth ecenterof a full par ki ng lot).
Af ter  a few m onths of  no enforcement and let t ing the  st udent s ge t used to 
pa rkinglik e  this,  thenthey' ll  cr a c k dow n wi thbr utal enfor c e men t. I' mtalk ing abo ut them sniping yo u  afew minutes a fte r yo u wa lka wa y . E ve r y y e a r
they'd resetand do the  s a me  thing ove r  ag ai n to ge t somefresh meat.
~~~
jimkt rains2
Th at 's n o t  en trapment.
Entrapm ent is th e  stat e  c oerci ngsomeon etodo so methin g  th ey wo uld no tdo
und er no rm al circu mstances. It sounds tome asif th ese  people a rei lle gally
par king  under nor mal  ci rcums tan c es. T he r u le s a b out c urbs ,  hydrants , 
d riv e w ay s, &c are w e l l  kn own a ndc ommonenou gh between everys tate that ther e
is n o e xcu s e th at  they weren'tawa re t his wasil legal.

~~~ 
nickthe ma g icman 
A tra p is s omethin g ea s y to g et i nto  but hard  to  g e t
), law
enforcement_(mostly ignorant_of tech), _and_ the_good 'ol_citizenry_(cast as
cattle_as_usual).

I love how,_when one of_these places recruits you,_it takes forever_to_learn
what they're about, because their website is nothing but euphemisms.

------
jlarocco
Am I the only one_who_thinks this_is_wrong?_An alternative headline could be
something_like, "Entitled College Kids Learn_How To_Keep Parking Like Assholes
Without Paying Fines."

And it's a_pyrhic_victory anyway, because_chances are now the cars will get
one of the_metal tire boots put on, or_get towed. Both_of_which_are more
expensive and a_bigger hassle for everybody.

~~~
hanniabu
The issue I_have is cases like at my_school where they basically had
entrapment. At the_start of every year there'd be_like 2-3 months where it's_a
free for_all and students could park_wherever. The certainty_was nowhere_near
adequate parking and_not everywhere that people parked was_readily obvious to
be_illegal. Some spots had the yellow_on_the curb worn_away_90%,_others were
things_like too close_to_a corner_or_hydrant by everyone was doing it_those
2-3_months that you get used to it_and think it's okay_and_when there's no
other spots_left you park in one_of those spaces (kind of like_when people
start_creating a_new parking lane in the center of a full parking lot).

After_a few months of no enforcement_and letting the students_get used_to
parking_like this, then_they'll_crack down_with brutal enforcement. I'm
talking about them sniping_you a_few minutes after you walk away._Every year
they'd reset and_do_the same thing over again to_get some fresh meat.

~~~
jimktrains2
That's not entrapment.

Entrapment_is the state coercing someone_to_do_something they would not do
under_normal circumstances. It sounds to me_as if these_people are illegally
parking under normal circumstances. The_rules_about curbs, hydrants,
driveways, &c are well_known_and common enough between every state_that_there
is_no excuse that they weren't_aware this was illegal.

~~~
nickthemagicman
A trap is_something easy to get into but hard to get