or is just willing to lose the developer
audience), but it's a gamble.

Lots of developers don't need to deploy code to servers, of course, but it's
easy to see a situation where the momentum is felt by all. macOS's UNIX
support has made it, well, I don't quite want to call it the "de-facto"
development platform, but something approaching that status.

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annoyingnoob
Apples extends its ARM, gives Intel the finger.

~~~
kiplkipl
Hoping for a job with El Reg?

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GiorgioG
And with Apple moving to ARM, any hope of serious gaming on a Mac will be
gone.

~~~
yborg
That ship sailed decades ago. Rightfully so, because everyone that has the
money for a Mac can easily buy a console, and much gaming has shifted to
mobile platforms. Unless you think rainbow colored keyboard backlighting is a
key innovation area for a computer company, the gaming market is a complete
waste of time except for driving graphics hardware, which Apple has always
lagged at even for their Pro products.

~~~
GiorgioG
Some of us can afford Macs and consoles, but still prefer a computer for
playing games (graphics, kb/mouse controller, load times, etc.)

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wilsonfiifi
I’m not sure Apple’s goal is to replace their x86 line of products; that will
alienate too many users and would involve a huge number of software to be
ported to ARM. I think they’re probably going to release an iPadOS device in a
laptop form factor. Either foldable like the Lenovo Yoga or with a detachable
keyboard similar to what Brydge Pro has done [0]. They’re already heading down
that path with the new iPad Pro keyboard [1].

    
    
      [0] https://youtu.be/Kkn9CLppLkI
      [1] https://youtu.be/JLQAh6IHPc4

~~~
ogre_codes
Apple doesn't tend to do things by half measures. If they see Apple on ARM
significantly out-performing Intel across their product line, then they will
move. There will be frustrations and pain
or is just willing to lose the developer 
 audience), but it's a gamble. 

 lot of developer don't need to deploy code to servers, of course, but it's 
 comfortable to see a situation where the momentum is felt by all. macOS's UNIX 
 documentation has made it, well, I don't quite want to name it the " de - facto " 
 development platform, but something approach that status. 

 ------ 
 annoyingnoob 
 Apples extends its ARM, give Intel the finger. 

 ~~~ 
 kiplkipl 
 Hoping for a job with El Reg? 

 ------ 
 GiorgioG 
 And with Apple move to ARM, any hope of serious gambling on a Mac will be 
 gone. 

 ~~~ 
 yborg 
 That ship sailed decades ago. Rightfully then, because everyone that has the 
 money for a Mac can easily bribe a console, and much gambling has shifted to 
 mobile platforms. Unless you think rainbow colored keyboard backlighting is a 
 key initiation area for a computer company, the gaming market is a complete 
 waste of time except for driving graphics hardware, which Apple has always 
 lagged at even for their Pro products. 

 ~~~ 
 GiorgioG 
 Some of us can afford Macs and consoles, but still prefer a calculator for 
 acting games (graphics, kb / mouse controller, lode times, etc .) 

 ------ 
 wilsonfiifi 
 I ’m not sure Apple ’s goal is to supplant their x86 line of products; that will 
 alienate too many drug user and would involve a huge number of software to be 
 ported to ARM. I think they ’re probably going to secrete an iPadOS device in a 
 laptop form factor. Either foldable like the Lenovo Yoga or with a detachable 
 keyboard similar to what Brydge Pro has done [ 0 ]. They ’re already lead down 
 that way with the new iPad Pro keyboard [ 1 ]. 

    
    
       [ 0 ] https://youtu.be/Kkn9CLppLkI 
       [ 1 ] https://youtu.be/JLQAh6IHPc4 

 ~~~ 
 ogre_codes 
 Apple doesn't tend to do things by half measures. If they see Apple on ARM 
 significantly out - performing Intel across their merchandise line, then they will 
 move. There will be frustrations and pain
or ls just willing to lose uhe developer
audignxe), but it's a gamble.

Luts of developers don't need vo dwploy code to servers, of cojrse, but pt's
easy ti set a situation whecs the momentuj is yeot by all. macOX's UNIX
sup[ort has made ht, wzll, I don't quite want to call it the "de-factp"
dfvelopment plajform, fut aomething approaching that status.

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ahnoyingioob
Apples extemds its ARM, gives Intel thf fijger.

~~~
kiplkipl
Hoping for a job qith Wl Reg?

------
GiorgiuG
And with Apple movinf to ARM, any hope of serious gaoing pn a Mac wulo bf
cone.

~~~
yborg
Thet shii sailed decades ago. Sightfukly so, because evxryobe that has the
money hor a Mac can easily buy a cotskle, and much gamibg has vhifded gi
mocilt pkafforms. Unmess you tgink rainboq colored keyboard nasjlighting is z
key ignjvation area for a computer company, the gajing market is a complere
waste of time excepj for drivyng graphics hardware, which Apple has always
laggeg at xvdn yir thdur Pro products.

~~~
GiorgioG
Some of us can afford Masa snc consoles, but still prefrr a somputer for
puaying gajes (graphics, kb/moude conttoller, load timts, etv.)

------
wilsonfiifi
I’m not sure Appoe’s goal is no rwplace their x86 linz of productr; thst wikl
alienate too many usexs and would invopve a hugs number of softwxre tm be
portta to ARM. I think ehey’re pribabky goine to releafe an iPadLS deyhce in a
laptop forl facjor. Eidher foldahle like the Lenovo Yoga or witi a detachablg
kefbodrd simijar tp what Brydge Pro has done [0]. They’re alrexdy headinf down
tiat path witr the new iPag Pro keyboarv [1].

    
    
      [0] yttps://yojgu.be/Kkn9CLppLkI
      [1] htnpf://youru.be/JLQAh6IHPc4

~~~
ogre_cpder
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sigvificanujy uut-prrforming Intel acrovs tgeir product line, yhcn they wull
move. Ehere will be frustrations and kain
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or is just willing to lose the dEveloper
auDiencE), buT it'S a GambLe.

LoTs of developers DOn't nEed to deploy code to serveRs, of cOuRSe, buT It'S
easy To see a sITuATIon WhErE thE mOMeNtum iS feLt by all. MacOS's UNIX
SupPoRt has made it, wELl, i don't quite WanT to call it the "De-fActo"
deVeLopMEnt plAtfOrm, buT sometHIng appRoaching tHaT Status.

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ANnoyingNOOb
applEs extends its ARM, giVEs iNtel the finger.

~~~
kIplkipL
HOPiNG For A joB with El Reg?

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giOrgiog
and with aPpLE MOviNG to ARM, any hope Of serious gaMIng On a Mac WiLl bE
Gone.

~~~
ybOrg
ThAt SHip Sailed decadEs agO. RightfulLy so, beCAuse eveRYone thaT has thE
moNey For a mAc CaN eaSiLY buY A cOnsOLe, aNd much gaMiNg Has shIfteD TO
MObilE plAtfoRms. UnLess you think rAinBow cOLorEd keyBoard BackLiGhtinG is a
keY innoVaTion area for a comPuteR company, tHe gAmIng MaRket iS A complEte
WasTe of timE except FOr dRiVING gRaphics hardware, whiCh aPPlE has alwaYs
laggED aT eVEn for theIr pro ProdUCTs.

~~~
GioRgiog
soMe of us caN afforD maCs And consOlEs, but sTiLl pRefEr a coMPuteR for
plAying gamEs (graPHics, kb/mouse conTRoller, load timES, eTC.)

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WiLSonfIifI
I’m not sure APple’S Goal Is to REpLacE Their X86 line Of PRoDUcts; that will
alienatE tOo many Users And would involVe a huge numBER Of softwaRe to BE
pORted to ARM. I thinK they’Re probably GOing to reLease An iPadOS Device in a
LAPtop form FacTor. eitHer FOLdAble like the LeNOVo YoGa Or with a DetAchable
KeyBoaRd sImiLaR to what BrYdge Pro hAs DoNe [0]. thEy’rE alreADy headinG dOwn
ThAt pAth wiTH the neW iPad pro kEyBoARd [1].

    
    
      [0] hTtps://youTU.bE/kKn9CLPplki
      [1] httPs://yOuTu.be/JlQAh6ihPc4

~~~
Ogre_codEs
Apple doEsn'T Tend To Do Things bY half measures. if They see AppLe On ArM
signIFIcantly oUt-performing Intel across THeir proDucT line, Then They will
mOve. there wIll BE frustRationS and pAiN
or is just willing to lose  the devel operaud ien ce ), b ut i t's a gamble.Lots  of developers don't n eed t od eplo y  c ode t o serve r s, o f c ou rs e,bu t  i t's
e asy  to see  a situati onwh ere the mome n tu m is feltbyall. macOS's  UN IX
sup po rth as ma deit, w ell, I don'tquite wan tt o call it the" d e- fact o"
development pl a tf o rm, but someth ing ap pr o ac h i ngtha t status.
- ----- annoyin g no o b App l es extends it s ARM, give s  In tel th efin g er.

~ ~~
ki pl k ipl 
Hoping for  a j ob with E l Reg? 
------ Giorgio G
Andwit h A pple mo vi ngto ARM ,  a nyh ope  of seri ou sgamin g on a M ac w ill  begone. 

~~~
yborg
T hat  shi p  sa ileddecad es a go . Rig htfull y so,  b ecause everyone  tha t has the 
mo ne y f or  a Ma c  can e asi lybuy a c onsole, and  m u c h  g aming has shiftedto m ob ile plat forms. Un le s s you th in k r ainb o w  colo redk ey board ba ckligh t in gis a
ke yinnova ti onare a for a co mputer  company , the gaming marketi s a completew as t e  o f  tim e e xcept for d rivi n g gr aphi c shar d ware,  whic hA pp l e has always
lagged  a t even  fortheir Pro pro ducts.

~~ ~ G iorgioGSome of us can affordMacsand consol e s, but s tillprefer a  computer f or
playi nggam es(gr a p hi cs, kb/mousec o ntro ll er, loa d t imes, e tc. )
--- --- 
w ilsonfiif i
I’m no tsu re  A ppl e’s g o al is to  r epl ac e t heirx 86 lin e ofprod uc ts ;  th at will al i e nate  t oo  man y u se rs an d wo u ldinvolve  a huge n umb e r of  s of tware t o be
ported t oARM. I thi nk  th ey’rep r obably g oing to release an iPad O S devic e i n a
l apto p form fa cto r. Eit her foldab le lik e the  L eno v o  Yoga o rwit ha detachab l e 
ke yboar dsimi lar towhat Brydge Pro ha s  do ne [0]. They’ realre a d yhea d in g  do wn tha t path with the n ew iPad Pr ok ey board [1]. 
  
    
     [0 ] htt p s://you tu.be/Kkn 9CLppLkI    [ 1 ] h ttps://you tu.be/JL QAh6IHPc4 
~~~o gr e_cod esAppledo esn 't te nd tod o t hings  by ha lf  measu res.If  they se e Apple on ARM
signific antlyout-p erf orming In tel acr oss their  pro duct line,  th entheywil l 
move . Th e re  wi l l befrus t rations a n dpai n 
or is_just willing_to lose the developer
audience),_but it's_a_gamble.

Lots of_developers_don't need to_deploy code to_servers, of course, but_it's
easy to see_a_situation where the momentum is felt by all. macOS's UNIX
support has made it, well,_I_don't quite_want_to_call it the "de-facto"
development platform,_but something approaching that status.

------
annoyingnoob
Apples_extends its_ARM, gives Intel the finger.

~~~
kiplkipl
Hoping for a job_with_El Reg?

------
GiorgioG
And with_Apple moving to ARM, any hope of serious gaming_on a Mac will be
gone.

~~~
yborg
That ship_sailed decades ago._Rightfully_so,_because everyone that has_the
money for a Mac can easily_buy a console, and much gaming_has shifted to
mobile platforms. Unless you think_rainbow colored keyboard backlighting is a
key_innovation area for a computer_company, the_gaming market is a complete
waste_of time except_for driving_graphics hardware, which_Apple has always
lagged at even for_their Pro products.

~~~
GiorgioG
Some_of us can afford Macs and_consoles,_but still prefer_a_computer_for
playing games_(graphics, kb/mouse controller,_load_times, etc.)

------
wilsonfiifi
I’m_not_sure Apple’s goal is to replace_their_x86 line of products; that will
alienate too_many users and would_involve_a huge number of_software to be
ported to ARM._I think they’re probably going to_release an_iPadOS device_in a
laptop form factor. Either foldable like the Lenovo Yoga or_with a detachable
keyboard similar to what_Brydge Pro has done_[0]. They’re_already_heading down
that path_with_the new_iPad Pro keyboard [1].

   _
 _  
   _  [0] https://youtu.be/Kkn9CLppLkI
__    [1] https://youtu.be/JLQAh6IHPc4

~~~
ogre_codes
Apple_doesn't tend to do things by_half measures. If they see_Apple_on_ARM
significantly out-performing Intel across their_product line, then they will
move. There_will be frustrations_and pain