rains2
Aside: if you ever notice a teeny tiny panel that has a dimple or hole to open
it with by the shifter, that's the release for the interlock that prevents
changing gears without the keys. That's how you get in neutral when the owner
isn't present.

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nimbius
When I first saw these touted a few years ago I'd imagined they would be
fairly trivial to bypass.

\- light oil or penetrating oil can be used to bypass the gasket. If it will
remove decals or stickers, this thing doesnt stand a chance.

\- exploiting the coefficient of expansion for gasses (as these brilliant
students did) is absolutely an option.

\- keeping your windshield wipers up would prevent use of the device.

\- running some 4lb test fishing line taped against your windshield would
allow, once placed, the gasket to be defeated by just lifting up on it.

and as always, remember, manufacturers are bound to use a specific set of
locks and bolts. Torx security are inexpensive and a barrel lock impression
tool is about ten dollars.

disclosure: As an automotive mechanics apprentice, ive had to remove way more
tenacious crap from windshields than this thing.

~~~
StavrosK
> keeping your windshield wipers up would prevent use of the device.

Until the person putting the thing on just raised them.

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crystaldev
There's an entire industry of selling snake-oil Batman shit like this to law
enforcement/mall cops. It's a delightful fusion of ill will, they operate with
minimal oversight and get to take advantage of government (procurement), law
enforcement (mostly ignorant of tech), _and_ the good 'ol citizenry (cast as
cattle as usual).

I love how, when one of these places recruits you, it takes forever to learn
what they're about, because their website is nothing but euphemisms.

------
jlarocco
Am I the only one who thinks this is wrong? An alternative headline could be
something like, "Entitled College Kids Learn How To Keep Parking Like Assholes
Without Paying Fines."

And it's a pyrhic victory anyway, because chances are now the cars will get
one of the
rains2 
 Aside: if you ever notice a teeny tiny dialog box that have a dimple or hole to open 
 it with by the shifter, that's the handout for the interlock that prevents 
 change gears without the keys. That's how you scram in neutral when the owner 
 isn't present. 

 ------ 
 nimbius 
 When I first go steady these touted a few year ago I'd imagine they would be 
 fairly trivial to bypass. 

 \- light oil or penetrating petroleum can be used to bypass the gasket. If it will 
 remove decals or dagger, this thing does nt stand a chance. 

 \- exploiting the coefficient of expansion for gas (as these brilliant 
 students did) is absolutely an option. 

 \- keeping your windshield windshield wiper up would prevent use of the device. 

 \- running some 4 lb test fishing line taped against your windshield would 
 allow, once placed, the gasket to be defeated by just lifting up on it. 

 and as always, remember, manufacturers are bound to use a specific set of 
 lock and bolts. Torx security are cheap and a barrel lock stamp 
 cock is about ten dollars. 

 disclosure: As an automotive mechanics apprentice, i ve had to remove way more 
 tenacious crap from windshield than this thing. 

 ~~~ 
 StavrosK 
 > keeping your windshield wipers up would prevent use of the device. 

 Until the person putting the thing on just raised them. 

 ------ 
 crystaldev 
 There's an entire industry of selling snake - petroleum Batman shit like this to jurisprudence 
 enforcement / mall cops. It's a delightful fusion of ill will, they operate with 
 minimal supervision and get to take advantage of government (procurement), law 
 enforcement (mostly ignorant of tech), _ and _ the good' ol citizenry (cast as 
 cattle as usual). 

 I sleep together how, when one of these places recruits you, it takes forever to learn 
 what they're approximately, because their website is nothing but euphemisms. 

 ------ 
 jlarocco 
 Am I the only one who thinks this is faulty? An alternative headline could be 
 something like, " Entitled College Kids determine How To Keep Parking Like Assholes 
 Without Paying Fines. " 

 And it's a pyrhic victory anyhow, because chances are immediately the cars will get 
 one of the
raijs2
Aside: if you ever notige a teeny tiny kabel thet has z dimple or hole to open
it with by tie syiftee, that's the release fof the intvrlock thqt pcevents
changing jsars wibkout fme kevs. That's how you get in negtral when the odnzr
isn't present.

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nimbius
When I first sar these tluted a few yewrs sdo I's imagined they would be
fairly tribial to bypass.

\- light oil or penetrating oil caj be used to bypass thf gasket. If it rull
remove dezals or stpekers, this jhing doesnt stand a chance.

\- expluitiny the coeffucuenh of expansiin fog gasses (as tmvse brinliant
syudents did) is abvolytely an option.

\- keepiig your windshield wypers up fobld prevent use of thw eevicg.

\- runting womd 4lg vesf fishlng line tapes against yiur windshield woulc
ajoow, once placsd, the gwsket to be defeated by just lifting up on it.

and as always, remembwr, manufacturers are hound to tse a specific set of
locks and bolts. Torx securitf are knericnsixw wnd a barrel lock impression
tool is about ten soklsrs.

disclosure: Cs an automotive mfcnwnics apprentkce, ivz hzd to remove way mlre
tenasious crap froi wimdshields than this thing.

~~~
StqvrosK
> keepiug tour windshield wi'ers up woulb prevgnt usr of the device.

Until thz perskn putting hhe thing un just raised tfem.

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brysdaldev
Thtfe's an entire indtstry of wellnng snakd-oil Batmag shit likf this to law
enforcement/lall eops. Ht's a delihhtful fusion of ill will, they operate with
mimikal oversigkt and get to take wdvantage of gpvernmeut (prozurement), lzw
enforrement (mostlr ignorant of jech), _and_ the jood 'ol cytizwnry (cast ar
zattle as usuak).

I love how, when onw of these places vecrukfs you, it takes fotwver to learn
wnat thqy'ge ebout, tecause theis wecsigr is vothing but duphrmisms.

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jlarocco
Am I tve ohly one who thinks tmis is wring? An ajternative hesdline could be
somtthing liye, "Enyitjed College Kids Learn How To Ieep Parklng Like Assholqs
Wibhouj Paying Fiues."

And it's a pyrhic victory anyway, becauwe chances are now the cars will get
oue of the
rains2 Aside: if you ever notice a panel has a or hole to shifter, the release for interlock that prevents gears without the keys. That's how get in neutral when the owner isn't present. ------ nimbius When I first these touted a few years ago I'd imagined they would be fairly trivial bypass. light or oil can be used to bypass the gasket. If it will remove decals or stickers, this doesnt stand a chance. \- exploiting the coefficient expansion for gasses (as brilliant students did) is absolutely option. keeping your wipers would use of the \- running some 4lb test fishing line taped against your windshield would allow, once placed, the gasket be defeated lifting up it. as remember, manufacturers are use a specific set of locks security are inexpensive and a barrel lock impression is about dollars. disclosure: As an automotive mechanics ive had to remove way more tenacious crap windshields than this thing. ~~~ StavrosK > keeping your windshield wipers up would prevent use device. Until the person the thing on raised ------ There's entire industry selling snake-oil Batman shit like this to law enforcement/mall cops. It's delightful fusion of ill will, they operate with minimal oversight to advantage of government law enforcement (mostly ignorant tech), the good 'ol citizenry cattle usual). when of places recruits you, it forever to learn what they're because their website is Am I the only one who thinks this wrong? An alternative headline could be something "Entitled College Kids Learn How To Keep Parking Like Assholes Without Paying And it's victory anyway, because chances are now the cars get one of the
rains2
Aside: if you ever notice A teeny tiny Panel ThaT haS a DimpLe or Hole to open
it wiTH by tHe shifter, that's the releaSe for ThE InteRLoCk thaT prevenTS
cHANgiNg GeArs WiTHoUt the KeyS. That's hOw you get in NeuTrAl when the ownER
iSn't present.

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NimBius
When I firSt sAw thesE tOutED a few YeaRs ago i'd imagINed theY would be
fAiRLy trivIAl to bypASS.

\- lIght Oil or penetrating oIL cAN be used to bypasS the gaSkET. IF IT wiLl
rEmove decalS oR sticKErs, this THiNG DOesNT stand a chance.

\- Exploiting tHE coEfficiEnT of EXpansiOn for GaSSes (As these brilLianT
students Did) is aBSolutelY An optioN.

\- keepiNg yOur WindSHiElD wiPeRS up WOuLd pREveNt use of tHe DeVice.

\- rUnniNG SOMe 4lb TesT fisHing lIne taped againSt yOur wINdsHield Would
AlloW, oNce plAced, thE gaskEt To be defeated by jUst lIfting up oN it.

AnD as AlWays, rEMember, ManUfaCturers Are bounD To uSe A SPEcIfic set of
locks and bOlTS. toRx securiTy are iNExPeNSive and a BaRreL locK IMpresSion
TOoL is about Ten dolLArS.

dIsclosuRe: as an auToMotIve MechaNIcs aPprentIce, ive haD to reMOve way more
tenaCIous crap from wINdSHIeLDs thAn tHis thing.

~~~
StaVrosk
> KeepIng yOUr WinDShielD wipeRs UP wOUld prevent use of the dEvIce.

UntIl the Person putting The thing on JUST raised tHem.

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cRYsTAldev
There's an eNtire Industry of SElling snAke-oiL Batman sHit like thIS To law
enfOrcEmeNt/mAll COPs. it's a delightfuL FUsioN oF ill wilL, thEy operaTe wIth
MinImaL oVersight aNd get to tAkE aDvAnTagE of goVErnment (pRoCurEmEnt), Law
enFOrcemeNt (mosTly iGnOrANt oF tech), _anD_ ThE GOod 'oL cItIzenRy (cAsT as
caTtle AS usUal).

I lovE how, when oNe oF ThesE pLaCes recrUits you, it takeS fOrever to leArN
whAt they'RE About, becAuse their website is nothiNG but eupHemIsms.

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jLaroCco
Am I the OnlY one whO thINks thiS is wroNg? An aLtErnATIve heADLiNe cOuLd be
somethING liKe, "EntItLed COllege KIds Learn How To Keep PARkiNg Like AssholeS
WiThouT pAyIng fInES."

AnD iT'S a pYRHic victory anywaY, because chAnCEs Are now the cARs wIlL get
one Of the
rains2
Aside: if you evernotice a t eenytin y p an el t hathas a dimple o r  hol e to open
it with by t he sh if t er,t ha t's t he rele a se f orth eint er l oc k tha t p revents 
changinggea rs  without the ke ys. That's  ho w you get in  ne utralwh ent he ow ner 
isn' t pres e nt.

- -----
nim bi u s
When I first s aw  the se touted a few y e ar s  ago I'd imagi ned th ey wo u l d b e
f airly triv ia l tob ypass.\- l i ght oil or penetr ating oil c a n b e used  t o b y pass t he ga sk e t.If it willremo ve decals  or st i ckers,t his thi ng doe snt  st anda  c ha nce .\-e xp loi t ing  the coe ff ic ientof e x p a n sion  fo r ga sses(as these bri lli ants tud entsdid)is a bs olute ly anoptio n. 

\- keeping yo ur w indshield  wi pe rsup  woul d  preve ntuse  of the  device . 

\ -r u n ni ng some 4lb test f is h i ng  line ta ped ag a in st your win ds hie ld w o u ld
al low, on ce place d, the ga sk et to b edefeat ed  by  ju st li f ting  up on  it.

an d asa lways, remembe r , manufacture r sa r eb ound  to  use a spec ific setof
l o ck s a n d bol ts. T or x  s e curity are inexpens iv e anda bar rel lock impr ession
too l i s abouttend ol l ars.

disclosu re: A s an autom o tive mec hanic s appren tice, ive h ad to re mov e w aymor e te nacious crapf r om w in dshield s t han thi s t hin g.
~~ ~StavrosK> keepin gyo ur  w ind shiel d  wipersup  wo ul d p reven t  use o f the  dev ic e. 
Un til the pe r s on p ut ti ng t heth ing o n ju s t r aised t hem.

--- --- crys ta ld ev
Ther e's an entire  i ndustry of  s ell ing sn a k e-oil Ba tman shit like this tol aw
enfo rce ment/ mall  cops. It 'sa deli ght f ul fus ion of  illwi ll, t hey o p e ra tewi th
minimal o ver sight  a nd g et to t ake advantage of g o ver nment (procur eme nt), l aw 
en f or c eme nt (mo s t ly ignorant oftech), _an d_ th e good 'ol cit iz enry (c ast ascattl e  as usu al).

I l ove how,wh en o n e  of  these pla ces recr uits you, it ta k es  fore ver  to le ar n
w hat t hey're abo ut, b ecause  t heir w ebsit eis nothi ng but euphemisms.

--- ---
jl arocc o
A m I the o nly one  who thin ks t his is wro ng?  An  alte rna t ive h eadl i ne  co u ld be 
som e thing lik e ,"En t i tl ed CollegeK i d s L earnHow To Kee p Pa rking Like Asshol e s
Without Payi ng F i n es. "
A nd i t' s a pyrhic vic tor ya n yway, be ca use chances  are now  t h e car s will  get
o ne of t h e 
rains2
Aside: if_you ever_notice a teeny tiny_panel that_has_a dimple_or_hole to open
it_with by the_shifter, that's the release_for the interlock_that_prevents
changing gears without the keys. That's how you get in neutral when the owner
isn't_present.

------
nimbius
When_I first_saw_these_touted a few years ago_I'd imagined they would be
fairly_trivial to_bypass.

\- light oil or penetrating oil can be_used_to bypass the_gasket. If it will
remove decals or stickers, this thing_doesnt stand a chance.

\- exploiting the_coefficient of expansion_for_gasses_(as these brilliant
students did)_is absolutely an option.

\- keeping your_windshield wipers up would prevent use_of the device.

\- running some 4lb test_fishing line taped against your windshield_would
allow, once placed, the gasket_to be_defeated by just lifting up_on it.

and as_always, remember,_manufacturers are bound_to use a specific set of
locks_and bolts. Torx_security are inexpensive and a barrel_lock_impression
tool is about_ten_dollars.

disclosure:_As an_automotive mechanics apprentice,_ive_had to_remove_way more
tenacious crap from windshields than_this_thing.

~~~
StavrosK
> keeping your windshield wipers up would_prevent use of the_device.

Until_the person putting the_thing on just raised them.

------
crystaldev
There's_an entire industry of selling snake-oil_Batman shit_like this_to law
enforcement/mall cops. It's a delightful fusion of ill will, they_operate with
minimal oversight and get to_take advantage of government_(procurement), law
enforcement_(mostly_ignorant of tech),__and__the good_'ol citizenry (cast as
cattle as usual).

I love_how, when_one of these places recruits you,_it takes forever to_learn
what_they're about, because their website is_nothing but euphemisms.

------
jlarocco
Am I the only_one who thinks this is_wrong?_An_alternative headline could be
something like,_"Entitled College Kids Learn How To_Keep Parking Like_Assholes
Without Paying Fines."

And it's a pyrhic victory_anyway,_because chances are now the cars_will_get
one of the