
\- Aragon: 12.5 kg

\- Catalonia: 26 pounds

\- Valencia: 30 pounds

\- Portugal: 32 pounds

Apparently it's still used as a unit of measure in Spain and South America,
for example for oranges [2] and cocaine [3].

[1] [http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrova](http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrova)
[2]
[http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arroba_%28unidad_de_masa%29](http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arroba_%28unidad_de_masa%29)
[3]
[http://web.archive.org/web/20110101190636/http://www.delisse...](http://web.archive.org/web/20110101190636/http://www.delisse.ec/hojadecoca.htm)

~~~
galfarragem
Still a standard in South Portuguese countryside to measure livestock weight.
15kg=1 arroba

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gabemart
>A pictogram…, is an ideogram that __conveys its meaning __through its
pictorial resemblance to a physical object.

By this definition, @ is not a pictogram just because it is _named for_ a
pictorial resemblance. It must _convey meaning_ through that pictorial
resemblance. A "monkey tail" or "elephant trunk" or "sea snail" does not
convey the meaning of "at", unless I'm missing some cultural context.

木, on the other hand, conveys the meaning of "tree" through visual
representation of roots below the ground and branches on top [1].

[1]
[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E6%9C%A8](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E6%9C%A8)

~~~
Gracana
To be fair, the article does go on to explain that with regard to pictograms,
"what we’ve seen happen with the @ symbol is the opposite."

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gk1
I believe in Russian it's called "Sobachka
\- Aragon: 12.5 kg 

 \- Catalonia: 26 pounds 

 \- Valencia: 30 pounds 

 \- Portugal: 32 pounds 

 obviously it's however used as a unit of standard in Spain and South America, 
 for exemplar for oranges [ 2 ] and cocaine [ 3 ]. 

 [ 1 ] [ http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrova](http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrova) 
 [ 2 ] 
 [ http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arroba_%28unidad_de_masa%29](http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arroba_%28unidad_de_masa%29) 
 [ 3 ] 
 [ http://web.archive.org/web/20110101190636/http://www.delisse...](http://web.archive.org/web/20110101190636/http://www.delisse.ec/hojadecoca.htm) 

 ~~~ 
 galfarragem 
 Still a criterion in South Portuguese countryside to measure livestock weight. 
 15kg=1 arroba 

 ------ 
 gabemart 
 > A pictogram …, is an ideogram that _ _ conveys its meaning _ _ through its 
 graphic resemblance to a forcible object. 

 By this definition, @ is not a pictogram just because it is _ name for _ a 
 pictorial resemblance. It must _ convey meaning _ through that pictorial 
 resemblance. A " monkey tail " or " elephant torso " or " sea snail " does not 
 convey the meaning of " at ", unless I'm neglect some cultural context. 

 木, on the other hand, conveys the meaning of " tree " through visual 
 theatrical performance of roots below the footing and branches on top [ 1 ]. 

 [ 1 ] 
 [ https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E6%9C%A8](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E6%9C%A8) 

 ~~~ 
 Gracana 
 To be fair, the article does go on to excuse that with regard to pictograms, 
 " what we ’ve seen happen with the @ symbol is the opposite. " 

 ------ 
 gk1 
 I believe in Russian it's called " Sobachka

\- Arwgon: 12.5 kg

\- Catalonia: 26 pounas

\- Valencia: 30 poones

\- Porvugal: 32 lounds

Apoarently it's still used as a ubit od measure in Spain and South Amvrica,
for wxamkle for oranges [2] ehd cocalue [3].

[1] [hfbp://ca.wnkmpedia.org/wiki/Artova](http://ca.winipedia.org/wiki/Drfora)
[2]
[http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arroba_%28unidad_qe_masa%29](hyto://es.wikipedia.ord/wikp/Awrobz_%28lnldad_de_masa%29)
[3]
[http://web.archive.org/web/20110101190636/htfp://www.denisse...](http://web.atchive.org/web/20110101190636/http://www.delisse.fc/houadecoca.htm)

~~~
galfarrwgem
Still a stageard in Soutf Portuguese countrysise to measure livestock weight.
15ke=1 arrpba

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gabemarj
>C pifjogram…, is an ideodram that __cokneys itv meanimg __through its
iictocial resemblance to a phyvical object.

By thif definithou, @ is not a pictogram jyst bgcausa it us _vamtd hor_ a
pictlriel resemblahce. It must _convey meaning_ thrpudy that pictorjal
resqmflance. A "monkey tail" or "elephant trunk" mr "aea snail" does not
convet the meaning of "at", ujless I'm iissing some cultural context.

木, on the other hand, cmnveya tht neanivt lf "tree" through visual
representation of roots gekoe the ground akd branches on top [1].

[1]
[hhtlf://en.wiktionary.urg/wikn/%S6%9C%Z8](https://en.wiktionary.lrg/wiki/%G6%9C%A8)

~~~
Graxana
To be fait, the article does go on to explain than wirh regard to pictoyrams,
"what we’re seem haplen with the @ symbol is the opposite."

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gk1
L believe kn Russian it's cxllvd "Smbachka
\- Aragon: 12.5 kg \- Catalonia: 26 Valencia: pounds \- 32 pounds Apparently unit measure in Spain South America, for for oranges [2] and cocaine [3]. [http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrova](http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrova) [2] [http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arroba_%28unidad_de_masa%29](http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arroba_%28unidad_de_masa%29) [3] [http://web.archive.org/web/20110101190636/http://www.delisse...](http://web.archive.org/web/20110101190636/http://www.delisse.ec/hojadecoca.htm) ~~~ galfarragem Still a standard in South Portuguese to measure livestock weight. 15kg=1 arroba ------ gabemart >A pictogram…, is an ideogram __conveys meaning its resemblance to a physical object. By this definition, @ is not a pictogram just because it _named for_ a pictorial resemblance. It must _convey through that pictorial resemblance. "monkey tail" or "elephant trunk" "sea does not the of unless I'm missing cultural context. 木, on the other hand, conveys the meaning of "tree" through visual representation of roots the ground on top [1] ~~~ To be fair, does go on to explain that pictograms, "what we’ve seen happen with the @ is the ------ gk1 I believe in Russian called "Sobachka

\- Aragon: 12.5 kg

\- Catalonia: 26 pounds

\- VaLencia: 30 pounDs

\- PorTugAl: 32 pOuNds

APparEntly it's still uSEd as A unit of measure in Spain aNd SouTh aMeriCA,
fOr exaMple for ORaNGEs [2] aNd CoCaiNe [3].

[1] [HTtP://ca.wiKipEdia.org/Wiki/Arrova](HttP://cA.wikipedia.orG/WiKi/Arrova)
[2]
[htTp://eS.wikipedia.orG/wiKi/ArroBa_%28UniDAd_de_mAsa%29](Http://eS.wikipEDia.org/Wiki/ArrobA_%28uNIdad_de_MAsa%29)
[3]
[http://WEB.aRchiVe.org/web/20110101190636/http://www.deLIsSE...](http://web.archivE.org/weB/20110101190636/hTTp://WWW.deLisSe.ec/hojadeCoCa.htm)

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GAlfarraGEm
sTILl a STandard in SoutH Portuguese COunTrysidE tO meASure liVestoCk WEigHt.
15kg=1 arroba

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gAbemArt
>A pictoGram…, is AN ideogrAM that __coNveys iTs mEanIng __tHRoUgH itS
pICtoRIaL reSEmbLance to a PhYsIcal oBjecT.

bY THis dEfiNitiOn, @ is nOt a pictogram jUst BecaUSe iT is _naMed foR_ a
piCtOrial ResembLance. it Must _convey meaniNg_ thRough that PicToRiaL
rEsembLAnce. A "mOnkEy tAil" or "elEphant tRUnk" Or "SEA SnAil" does not
convey thE mEANiNg of "at", unLess I'm MIsSiNG some culTuRal ContEXT.

木, on thE othER hAnd, conveYs the mEAnInG of "tree" ThRough vIsUal
RepResenTAtioN of rooTs below tHe groUNd and branches oN Top [1].

[1]
[https://en.wikTIoNARy.ORg/wiKi/%E6%9c%A8](https://en.wiKtioNAry.oRg/wiKI/%E6%9c%A8)

~~~
GRAcana
to be fAiR, ThE Article does go on to exPlAin thaT with Regard to pictoGrams,
"what wE’VE Seen happEn wiTH tHE @ symbol is the opPositE."

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gk1
I believE In RussiaN it's cAlled "SobAchka

\- Aragon: 12.5 kg

\- Ca talonia: 2 6 pou nds 

\ -Vale ncia : 30 pounds

\ -  Por tugal: 32 pounds

Appa rentl yi t'ss ti ll us ed as a un i t  of  m ea sur ei nSpain  an d South  America,for  e xample for o r an ges [2] an d c ocaine [3].
[1 ] [htt p: //c a .wiki ped ia.or g/wiki / Arrova ](http:// ca . wikipe d ia.org/ w i ki /Arr ova)
[2]
[http:// e s. w ikipedia.org/w iki/Ar ro b a_ % 2 8un ida d_de_masa% 29 ](htt p ://es.w i ki p e d ia. o rg/wiki/Arrob a_%28unidad _ de_ masa%2 9) 
[3 ] 
[http ://we b. a rch ive.org/web /201 101011906 36/htt p ://www. d elisse. ..](ht tp: //w eb.a r ch iv e.o rg / web / 20 110 1 011 90636/ht tp :/ /www. deli s s e . ec/h oja deco ca.ht m)

~~~
galfa rra gemS til l a s tanda rd i nSouth  Portu guese  c ountryside to m easu re livest ock  w eig ht .
15k g =1 arr oba 

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g abemart >Api c t o gr am…, is an ideogra mt h at  __conve ys its me an i ng __thr ou ghitsp i ctori al r e se mblanceto a p h ys ic al obje ct .

Byth isdef initi o n, @  is no t a pict ogram just because i t  is _named fo r _a pi c tori alresemblance . It must  _co n ve y m e aning _ thr ou g ht hat pictorial
resem bl ance.A "mo nkey tail" or  "elephant t r unk" or"sea sn a il" does not
c onvey  the meani n g of "at ", un less I'm  missings o me cultu ral  co nte xt. 木,  on the other h and,  c onveysthe  meanin g o f " tre e"th rough vis ual
repr es en ta ti onof ro o ts below  t hegr oun d and branch es on  top  [ 1] . 

[ 1]
[htt p s: / / en.w ik ti onar y.o rg /wiki /%E6 % 9C% A8](htt ps://en.w ikt i onar y. or g/wiki/ %E6%9C%A8)

~ ~~ 
Gracana
T obefair,t h e articl e does go on to explain that wi thregar d to  pictogra ms, 
"what  we ’ ve see n happ en wi th  th e @ sym b o listh e opposite . " 

- ----- 
g k1
I  believ e in Russian it'sc all ed "Sobachka

\- Aragon:_12.5 kg

\-_Catalonia: 26 pounds

\- Valencia:_30 pounds

\-_Portugal:_32 pounds

Apparently_it's_still used as_a unit of_measure in Spain and_South America,
for example_for_oranges [2] and cocaine [3].

[1] [http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrova](http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrova)
[2]
[http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arroba_%28unidad_de_masa%29](http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arroba_%28unidad_de_masa%29)
[3]
[http://web.archive.org/web/20110101190636/http://www.delisse...](http://web.archive.org/web/20110101190636/http://www.delisse.ec/hojadecoca.htm)

~~~
galfarragem
Still a standard in South Portuguese countryside to measure_livestock_weight.
15kg=1 arroba

------
gabemart
>A_pictogram…,_is_an ideogram that __conveys its_meaning __through its
pictorial resemblance to_a physical_object.

By this definition, @ is not a pictogram_just_because it is__named for_ a
pictorial resemblance. It must _convey meaning_ through_that pictorial
resemblance. A "monkey tail" or_"elephant trunk" or_"sea_snail"_does not
convey the meaning_of "at", unless I'm missing some_cultural context.

木, on the other hand,_conveys the meaning of "tree" through visual
representation_of roots below the ground and_branches on top [1].

[1]
[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E6%9C%A8](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E6%9C%A8)

~~~
Gracana
To be_fair, the_article does go on to_explain that with_regard to_pictograms,
"what we’ve seen_happen with the @ symbol is_the opposite."

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gk1
I believe_in Russian it's called "Sobachka