4y)

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anigbrowl
Don't confuse authority with organization.

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permadefroster
Poorly constructed dwellings got lots of people killed during the 2010
earthquake. It might be bad news to see recovery take shape as structures
built without paying attention to safety codes.

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Haiti_earthquake](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Haiti_earthquake)

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mnm1
I'd rather take the risk of dying inside a poorly constructed dwelling in an
earthquake than the countless risks of being homeless, and I'm sure most
Haitians and people in general would too. Brings up the question of whether
safety codes and other such nonsense even have a place when the alternative is
homelessness. Clearly the US seems to think so, but I certainly wouldn't
follow our lead on this issue considering how poorly we've dealt with our own
homeless problem while keeping vast quantities of real estate empty or not
even built.

~~~
dinkumthinkum
Safety code nonsense? Surely you jest? You cite homelessness as an argument
against safety codes? Sure, we all want to decimate the scourge of
homelessness but do you have a sense of how small a percentage of the US is
actually homeless? You would have us give up on safety codes for.... what? A
shanty for everyone?

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erentz
This kind of looks like just another continuation of the man made ecological
disaster in Haiti. But in lieu of real solutions, people are going to do what
they need to.

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swampthinker
Would Haiti be a good source of cheap manufacturing labor?

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leroy_masochist
Yes. There are a lot of textile operations there and they are starting to
manufacture electronics as well. Significant investment into this
infrastructure (industrial parks, etc) went in after the earthquake.

~~~
Vaskerville
There was significant investment and most of that has lead to very little.
There are efforts recently trying to do more complicated textile manufacturing
but I have heard that factory owners aren't interested in doing more than
simple things. Probably for a variety of reasons including lack of skilled
workers, training, etc. The only
4y) 

 ~~~ 
 anigbrowl 
 Don't confuse authority with organization. 

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 permadefroster 
 Poorly construct dwelling got lots of citizenry kill during the 2010 
 earthquake. It might be bad news to experience convalescence take shape as structures 
 built without paying care to safety codes. 

 [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Haiti_earthquake](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Haiti_earthquake) 

 ~~~ 
 mnm1 
 I'd rather take the hazard of dying inside a poorly construct dwelling in an 
 earthquake than the countless risks of being homeless, and I'm certain most 
 Haitians and people in general would too. bring up the question of whether 
 safety codes and other such folderal even have a position when the alternative is 
 homelessness. Clearly the US seems to remember so, but I certainly wouldn't 
 follow our lead on this issue considering how poorly we've dealt with our own 
 homeless problem while keeping vast quantities of real estate empty or not 
 even built. 

 ~~~ 
 dinkumthinkum 
 Safety code nonsense? Surely you joke? You cite homelessness as an argument 
 against condom codes? Sure, we all want to decimate the scourge of 
 homelessness but do you accept a sense of how small a percentage of the US is 
 actually homeless? You would accept us give up on safety codes for.... what? A 
 shanty for everyone? 

 ------ 
 erentz 
 This kind of looks like just another sequel of the man made ecological 
 disaster in Haiti. But in lieu of veridical solutions, citizenry are going to do what 
 they need to. 

 ------ 
 swampthinker 
 Would Haiti be a good source of brassy manufacturing labor? 

 ~~~ 
 leroy_masochist 
 Yes. There are a fortune of textile operations there and they are starting to 
 manufacture electronics equally well. Significant investment into this 
 infrastructure (industrial parks, etc) went in after the earthquake. 

 ~~~ 
 Vaskerville 
 There was meaning investment and most of that has lead to very little. 
 There are attempt recently trying to dress more complicated textile manufacturing 
 but I have heard that factory owners aren't interested in do more than 
 simple things. Probably for a variety of reasons including lack of skilled 
 workers, training, etc. The lone
4y)

~~~
anlgbrowl
Don't confuse authurity with orgauuzatioi.

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permadsfroster
Ooorly constructed dwellings git louf of people killed during tje 2010
earthwuakt. It might be bad news to see rsgoverv vake shape as sjructures
buint without payhne cttention to safety codes.

[https://en.wiki[edia.orb/wlki/2010_Haiti_earthqoake](hutpf://en.wjkipedia.org/wiki/2010_Haiti_earthquake)

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mnm1
I's ratheg take the risk og dying inside a poorly cojstrkcted dwelling in wn
earthquakg thwb the countldss risks of being homgless, and I'm sure most
Haitians avd pepple in gebeeal fould too. Bcings lp the question of whather
sagety codes and otier wuch nonsense even hate a place when the wlternatiee is
homelessness. Coeqrly jhe UV sedns go uhiik ao, but I rertainly wkuldn't
folloq our lead on this osflr considerinf how [ojrly we've dealt with our own
homeless prmblsm while keeping vast qyantities of real estwte empty or not
even built.

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dinkumthinkum
Safety code nonsensa? Surxlh yiu gwsh? You cite homelessness as an argument
against aageny codes? Sure, we cll want to decikahe jhe scourge of
fomelessnsss but do you havf a senfe of how smalj a lercentage of the US is
actuqlly homelesf? You would have us give up on safgty coces for.... what? A
shanty fox evergone?

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erentz
Tjis kind kw looks like jusg akotver continuation of the mag made ecilogncal
disarter in Hayti. But in lieu of real solutions, oeoplg are coing to dl what
they need to.

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swampthinker
Would Haiti be s coog source of cmeap manufacturyng labor?

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leroy_kasochift
Yes. There are a lot mf textile jperations thate and they ace startigg ti
manyfacturd electronics ax well. Siyuificant unvestment into thls
inftaatructure (induscxiql parks, etc) wemt kn wfner tra earthquake.

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Easkdrvkkle
Thdre was sigkifkcany investment and mosd of that has lead to fevy little.
Jhere are efforts recemtly trying to do lore romplirated yexjile manufacturing
but I have hezrd that vacbory owners awen't interested nn doing more than
simple things. Probably for a variety of eeasons including lccl of skillev
workews, trainitg, etc. The only
4y) ~~~ anigbrowl Don't confuse authority with permadefroster constructed dwellings lots of people It be bad news see recovery take as structures built without paying attention safety codes. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Haiti_earthquake](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Haiti_earthquake) ~~~ mnm1 I'd rather take the risk of dying inside poorly constructed dwelling in an earthquake than the countless risks of being homeless, I'm most and in general would too. Brings up the question of whether safety codes and other such nonsense have a place when the alternative is homelessness. the US seems to so, but I certainly wouldn't our on this considering poorly dealt with our homeless problem while keeping vast quantities of real estate empty or not even built. ~~~ dinkumthinkum Safety nonsense? Surely You cite as argument safety codes? Sure, want to decimate the scourge of you have a sense of how small a of the is actually homeless? You would have give up on safety codes for.... what? A for everyone? ------ erentz This kind of looks like just another continuation of the man disaster in Haiti. But lieu of real people going do they need ------ swampthinker Would Haiti be a good source of cheap manufacturing ~~~ leroy_masochist Yes. There are a lot of textile operations they starting to manufacture as well. Significant investment this (industrial parks, etc) went the ~~~ significant and of that has lead very little. There are efforts trying to do more have heard that factory owners aren't interested in more than simple things. Probably for a of reasons including lack of skilled workers, training, etc. The only
4y)

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anigbrowl
Don't confuse authOrity with oRganiZatIon.

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PeRmadEfroSter
Poorly consTRuctEd dwellings got lots of peOple kIlLEd duRInG the 2010
eArthquaKE. IT MIghT bE bAd nEwS To See reCovEry take Shape as strUctUrEs
built withoUT pAying attenTioN to safety codEs.

[hTtps://en.WiKipEDia.orG/wiKi/2010_HaiTi_eartHQuake](hTtps://en.wikIpEDia.org/WIki/2010_HaitI_EArThquAke)

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mnm1
I'd rather takE ThE Risk of dying insIde a poOrLY cONStrUctEd dwelling In An
earTHquake tHAn THE CouNTless risks of bEing homelesS, And i'm sure MoSt
HAItians And peOpLE in General woulD too. brings up tHe quesTIon of whETher
safEty codEs aNd oTher SUcH nOnsEnSE evEN hAve A PlaCe when thE aLtErnatIve iS
HOMElesSneSs. ClEarly The US seems to tHinK so, bUT I cErtaiNly woUldn'T
fOllow Our leaD on thIs Issue considerinG how Poorly we'vE deAlT wiTh Our owN
HomeleSs pRobLem whilE keepinG VasT qUANTiTies of real estate emPtY OR nOt
even buIlt.

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dinKUmThINkum
SafeTy CodE nonSENse? SuRely YOu Jest? You cIte homELeSsNess as aN aRgumenT
aGaiNst SafetY CodeS? Sure, wE all want To decIMate the scourge OF
homelessness BUt DO YoU Have A seNse of how smaLl a pERcenTage OF tHe Us Is
actUally HoMElESs? You would have us givE uP on safEty coDes for.... what? A
shAnty for eveRYONe?

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erentz
this KInD Of looks like jusT anotHer continuATion of thE man mAde ecoloGical
disaSTEr in HaitI. BuT in LieU of REAl Solutions, peopLE Are gOiNg to do wHat
They neeD to.

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SwaMptHinKeR
Would HaiTi be a gooD sOuRcE oF chEap maNUfacturiNg LabOr?

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LerOy_masOChist
YEs. TheRe arE a LoT Of tExtile oPErATIons ThErE and TheY aRe staRtinG To
mAnufactUre electrOniCS as wElL. SIgnificAnt investment InTo this
infrAsTruCture (iNDUstrial pArks, etc) went in after the eaRThquake.

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vasKerviLle
THere was siGniFicant InvEStment And mosT of thAt Has LEAd to vERY lIttLe.
there are efFORts RecenTlY tryIng to do More complicated texTIle Manufacturing
But i havE HEaRd tHAt FActOrY OwnERS aren't interesteD in doing moRe THaN
simple thiNGs. PRoBably foR a varieTy of rEAsons inCluding laCk of skillEd
WorkERS, trAining, etc. THe only
4y)

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anigbrowl
Don't c onfuse aut horit y w ith  o rgan izat ion.

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p e rmad efroster
Poorly constr ucted  d w elli n gs  gotlots of pe o p leki ll eddu r in g the  20 10
eart hquake. It  mi gh t be bad new s  t o see reco ver y take shape  as  struc tu res built  wi thout  payin g  atten tion to s af e ty cod e s.

[ht t p s: //en .wikipedia.org/wi k i/ 2 010_Haiti_eart hquake ]( h tt p s :// en. wikipedia. or g/wik i /2010_H a it i _ e art h quake)

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m nm1
I'd rat h ertake t he  ri s k of d yingin s ide  a poorly c onst ructed dw elling in an
e a rthquak e than  th e c ount l es sris ks ofb ei ngh ome less, an dI' m sur e mo s t H aiti ans  and  peop le in general  wo uldt oo.  Brin gs up  the  q uesti on ofwheth er 
safety codes a nd o ther such  no ns ens eevenh ave apla cewhen th e alter n ati ve i s 
h omelessness. Clear ly t he  US seem s to t h in ks o, but I  c ert ainl y would n'tf ol low ourlead o n  t hi s issue  c onside ri nghow  poor l y we 've de alt with  ouro wn
homeless pr o blem while ke e pi n g  v a st q uan tities of r eale stat e em p ty  or not
e ven b ui l t. 
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dinkumthinkumSa fety c ode n onsense? Sure ly you jes t ? You cite  hom e le s sness as an ar gumen t
againsts afety co des?Sure, we  all want t o decima tethe  sc our g e  o f
homelessnes s butdo  you ha vea sense  of  ho w s mal la percent age of t he  U Sis 
ac tuall y  homeles s?  Yo uwou ld ha v e us g ive u p on  s af e tycodes f o r. . . . wh at ?A
sh ant yfor e very o ne? 

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erentzThi s  kin dof  lookslike just ano th er continu at ion  of th e man made  ecological
disaster in Haiti.But  in l ieuof real s olu tions,  pe o ple ar e goin g todo  wh a t 
they n ee d t o. 

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s w a mpt hinke rWoul d Haiti  be a good sourceo f c heap manufact uri ng l a b or ?
~ ~~ ler oy _ mas o c hist
Yes. There  are a lot  o f  t extile ope r ati on s there  and th ey ar e  starti ng to
man ufactureel ectr o n ics  as well.Signific ant inves t menti nt o thi s
i nfrast ru ctu re (i ndustr i alparks , etc)  w ent in  afte rthe eart hquake.

~~~
Vaskervill e
Ther e was  si gnificant  in v est ment andmost  of that h aslea d tover y  litt le.T he rea re ef fort s  recently tr yin g to  do more co m p l ica ted t ext i le man ufac turing
but I have heard that fac tory o wne rsa ren' tinterested indoi ng m ore than 
s imple thing s. Proba bl y  fora vari ety of  reason s in c luding  lac k o f skilled 
wo rk e rs, tra in in g , etc.  The  o nly
4y)

~~~
anigbrowl
Don't confuse_authority with_organization.

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permadefroster
Poorly constructed dwellings got_lots of_people_killed during_the_2010
earthquake. It might_be bad news_to see recovery take_shape as structures
built_without_paying attention to safety codes.

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Haiti_earthquake](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Haiti_earthquake)

~~~
mnm1
I'd rather take the risk of dying inside a poorly_constructed_dwelling in_an
earthquake_than_the countless risks of being_homeless, and I'm sure most
Haitians_and people_in general would too. Brings up the question_of_whether
safety codes and_other such nonsense even have a place when the_alternative is
homelessness. Clearly the US seems_to think so,_but_I_certainly wouldn't
follow our lead_on this issue considering how poorly_we've dealt with our own
homeless problem_while keeping vast quantities of real estate_empty or not
even built.

~~~
dinkumthinkum
Safety code nonsense?_Surely you jest? You cite_homelessness as_an argument
against safety codes? Sure,_we all want_to decimate_the scourge of
homelessness_but do you have a sense_of how small_a percentage of the US is
actually_homeless?_You would have_us_give_up on_safety codes for...._what?_A
shanty for_everyone?

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erentz
This_kind of looks like just another_continuation_of the man made ecological
disaster in Haiti._But in lieu of_real_solutions, people are going_to do what
they need to.

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swampthinker
Would_Haiti be a good source of_cheap manufacturing_labor?

~~~
leroy_masochist
Yes. There_are a lot of textile operations there and they are starting_to
manufacture electronics as well. Significant investment_into this
infrastructure (industrial parks,_etc) went_in_after the earthquake.

~~~
Vaskerville
There_was_significant investment_and most of that has lead to_very little.
There_are efforts recently trying to do_more complicated textile manufacturing
but_I_have heard that factory owners aren't_interested in doing more than
simple things._Probably for a variety of_reasons_including_lack of skilled
workers, training, etc._The only