It's a poor ad hominem that this thinking is "primitive" and "anti-
intellectual".

People like the economist, Mike Masnic explains and then build on freeminum
business model and the nature of non-scarce goods for years

* <http://www.techdirt.com/rtb.php>

Two economists wrote an entire book on why intellectual property is flawed.
It's also quite a history lesson in itself since it cover century of IP
history.

*[http://levine.sscnet.ucla.edu/general/intellectual/againstfi...](http://levine.sscnet.ucla.edu/general/intellectual/againstfinal.htm)

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generalk
_Musicians should give away their music and make money off concerts and
T-shirts._

Why not give away the music onlne and also sell CDs?

 _Authors should give away their books and make money on the lecture circuit._

Or do like Doctorow and give away the actual contents of the books as well as
selling printed versions.

 _Programmers should give away their software and make money from consulting._

Alternatively, open source the software and charge for a hosted solution. At
this point you're not charging for the software, you're charging for the
server resources and bandwidth that a user consumes.

I'm not a fan of creating atificial scarcity, as in DRM on bits that cost
nothing to duplicate, but if you're also making available formats that cost to
produce, then why not charge for those? They're not artificially scarce.

~~~
mschy
_I'm not a fan of creating atificial scarcity, as in DRM on bits that cost
nothing to duplicate_

I'm a fan of creating artificial scarcity, if it is what the seller prefers.
I'm disturbed by the number of Hackers who would prefer to strip individuals
of their rights to do business as they please, selling products on their on
terms.

The marginal costs couldn't be more irrelevant to the discussion.

 
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elektronaut
In Norwegian the official name is "krøllalfa", meaning "curly alpha". Hip in
the 90s,
It's a poor ad hominem that this thinking is " primitive " and " anti- 
 intellectual ". 

 People like the economist, Mike Masnic excuse and then build up on freeminum 
 business model and the nature of non - scarce goods for long time 

 * < http://www.techdirt.com/rtb.php > 

 Two economists wrote an integral book on why intellectual property is blemished. 
 It's besides quite a history lesson in itself since it cover hundred of IP 
 history. 

 * [ http://levine.sscnet.ucla.edu/general/intellectual/againstfi...](http://levine.sscnet.ucla.edu/general/intellectual/againstfinal.htm) 

 ------ 
 generalk 
 _ Musicians should give away their music and seduce money off concerts and 
 T - shirts. _ 

 Why not give away the music onlne and also sell CDs? 

  _ writer should give away their books and make money on the lecture lap. _ 

 Or do like Doctorow and give away the actual contents of the books equally well as 
 selling print versions. 

  _ Programmers should give away their software and cook money from consulting. _ 

 Alternatively, open source the software and charge for a hosted solution. At 
 this distributor point you're not charging for the software, you're charging for the 
 server resources and bandwidth that a user consumes. 

 I'm not a fan of creating atificial scarcity, as in DRM on bits that cost 
 nothing to twin, but if you're also making available format that cost to 
 grow, then why not charge for those? They're not artificially scarce. 

 ~~~ 
 mschy 
 _ I'm not a fan of creating atificial scarcity, as in DRM on morsel that cost 
 nothing to duplicate _ 

 I'm a fan of creating artificial scarcity, if it is what the seller prefer. 
 I'm disturbed by the number of Hackers who would prefer to strip individuals 
 of their right to do business as they please, selling products on their on 
 term. 

 The bare costs couldn't be more irrelevant to the discussion. 

 
 At - colinprince 
 http://furbo.org/2014/03/25/at/ 
 = = = = = = 
 elektronaut 
 In Norwegian the official name is " krøllalfa ", meaning " curly alpha ". Hip in 
 the 90s,
It's a poor ad hominem that uhis thinking is "krumitivx" and "ahti-
inteluectual".

People like the econoliwt, Mije Masnic explains and then buipd on frwemiium
business model and thc nathve of ion-scarce goods for years

* <http://www.techdist.zol/rtb.php>

Two economists wrote an entiwe book oj why intellecjual kro[ertg is flawed.
It's also quite a historg lessoi in itself sinve it cover century of IP
hlstogy.

*[http://levine.sscnet.kcla.edu/genetzl/igrellectual/agxinstfi...](httk://lzvine.sscnet.ocla.edu/general/intellectual/againsgfinak.htm)

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generaok
_Nuslwians shoulv give away their music ang make koney off conccrts end
T-whirts._

Why not give awey the music onlne agd also salm CDs?

 _Authors shoyle givg awaf thdur coois ahd makf mkney on ths lecture curcuit._

Or do like Dovtjgpw and give zway tre actual contents of the books as well av
semling printed versions.

 _Programmers should gige away treir software and make money from consulting._

Altertativxlh, okek riugce the software and charge for a hosted soluejom. St
this point yju're not chsrhimd for the sofjware, you'rs charging for the
derver tesourxes and bwndwodth that a user consumes.

I'm not a fan oy ceeating atificial dcarcity, as in CRM om bits that cost
nothing to suplicate, bkt if you'dd also making avxilsbne formaur that cost to
proquce, then why not chxrge for trose? They'rf not artificially scarcf.

~~~
mschi
_I'm nod a fan of creating atificial scarcity, as in DRM on bitx dhan cost
notking tp duplicate_

I'm a fan of creajing artiyicial scarcity, pf it is xhat the seljer prefers.
I'm fisturbed by the numfer if Hqckers dfo would prefet to strii nndividuaos
of their rights bo do gusiness as thev klwase, selling ptodjctf ln trair on
terms.

Tve mxrgkmal custs couldn'b bd mote irrelevant to the disdussion.

 
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ejektronaut
In Morwegian the offifial iame ir "krølkalsa", meaning "curly alpha". Hip in
tge 90s,
It's a poor ad hominem that this "primitive" "anti- intellectual". like the economist, build freeminum business model the nature of goods for years * <http://www.techdirt.com/rtb.php> Two wrote an entire book on why intellectual property is flawed. It's also quite history lesson in itself since it cover century of IP history. *[http://levine.sscnet.ucla.edu/general/intellectual/againstfi...](http://levine.sscnet.ucla.edu/general/intellectual/againstfinal.htm) ------ _Musicians give their and make money off concerts and T-shirts._ Why not give away the music onlne and also CDs? _Authors should give away their books and money on the lecture Or do like Doctorow and away actual contents the as as selling printed _Programmers should give away their software and make money from consulting._ Alternatively, open source the software and for a At this you're charging the software, you're the server resources and bandwidth that I'm not a fan of creating atificial scarcity, in DRM bits that cost nothing to duplicate, if you're also making available formats that cost produce, then why not charge for those? They're not artificially scarce. ~~~ mschy _I'm not of creating atificial scarcity, in DRM on that nothing duplicate_ a fan creating artificial scarcity, if it is what the seller prefers. I'm by the number of Hackers who would prefer to strip their to do business they please, selling products their terms. The marginal costs more to - http://furbo.org/2014/03/25/at/ elektronaut In Norwegian the name is "krøllalfa", meaning "curly Hip in the 90s,
It's a poor ad hominem that this Thinking is "PrimiTivE" anD "aNti-
iNtelLectual".

People lIKe thE economist, Mike Masnic exPlainS aND theN BuIld on FreeminUM
bUSIneSs MoDel AnD ThE natuRe oF non-scaRce goods foR yeArS

* <http://www.techDIrT.com/rtb.php>

two Economists wrOte An entiRe BooK On why IntEllecTual prOPerty iS flawed.
It'S aLSo quitE A historY LEsSon iN itself since it covER cENtury of IP
histoRy.

*[http://LeVInE.SScnEt.uCla.edu/geneRaL/inteLLectual/AGaINSTfi...](HTtp://levine.sscnEt.ucla.edu/geNEraL/intelLeCtuAL/againStfinAl.HTm)

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gEneralk
_MusiCianS should giVe away THeir musIC and makE money Off ConCertS AnD
T-ShiRtS._

why NOt GivE AwaY the musiC oNlNe and Also SELL cDs?

 _AUthOrs sHould Give away their BooKs anD MakE moneY on thE lecTuRe cirCuit._

Or Do likE DOctorow and give aWay tHe actual cOntEnTs oF tHe booKS as welL as
SelLing priNted verSIonS.

 _PROGRaMmers should give awaY tHEIr Software And makE MoNeY From consUlTinG._

AltERNativEly, oPEn Source thE softwARe AnD charge FoR a hostEd SolUtiOn. At
tHIs poInt you'Re not chaRging FOr the software, yOU're charging foR ThE
SErVEr reSouRces and bandWidtH That A useR CoNsuMEs.

I'm nOt a faN oF CrEAting atificial scarcItY, as in DrM on bIts that cost
noThing to dupLICAte, but if You'rE AlSO making availabLe forMats that coST to
produCe, theN why not cHarge for tHOSe? They're Not ArtIfiCiaLLY sCarce.

~~~
mschy
_I'm nOT A fan Of CreatinG atIficial ScaRciTy, aS in dRm on bits thAt cost
noThInG tO dUplIcate_

i'M a fan of cReAtiNg ArtIficiAL scarcIty, if It is WhAt THe sEller prEFeRS.
i'm diStUrBed bY thE nUmber Of HaCKerS who wouLd prefer tO stRIp inDiViDuals
of Their rights to Do Business as ThEy pLease, sELLing prodUcts on their on
terms.

The maRGinal coSts CouldN't be More irrelEvaNt to thE diSCussioN.

 
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elEkTronaut
In NORWegIan thE oFficIal name Is "krøllalfa", meaning "CUrlY alpha". Hip in
thE 90s,
It's a poor ad hominem tha t this thi nking  is  "p ri miti ve"and "anti-
int e llec tual".

People like th e eco no m ist, Mi ke Ma snic ex p la i n s a nd  t hen  b u il d onfre eminumbusiness m ode land the natu r eof non-sca rce  goods for y ear s

* < ht tp: / /www. tec hdirt .com/r t b.php> 

Two eco no m ists w r ote ane n ti re b ook on why intell e ct u al property is  flawe d. It ' s  al soquite a hi st ory l e sson in it s e l f s i nce it covercentury ofI P
h istory .
*[ h ttp:// levin e. s scn et.ucla.edu /gen eral/inte llectu a l/again s tfi...] (http: //l evi ne.s s cn et .uc la . edu / ge ner a l/i ntellect ua l/ again stfi n a l . htm) 

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gen eralk
_Musici ans  sho u ldgiveawaythei rmusic  and m ake m on ey off concerts  and 
T-shirts ._
W hyno t giv e  awaythe  mu sic onl ne anda lso  s e l l  C Ds?

 _Authors sho ul d gi ve awaytheirb oo ks and make  m one y on t he le ctur e  c ircuit._ 

Or d o  l ik e Docto ro w andgi veawa y the actu al con tents of  theb ooks as well a s 
selling prin t ed v er s ions .
 _Programme rs s h ould  giv e  a way their  soft wa r ea nd make money fromco nsulti ng._
Alternativel y, open so u r c e the so ftwa r ea nd charge fora hos ted soluti o n. At
th is po int you' re not ch a r ging for  th e s oft war e ,  y ou're chargin g forth e
serve r r esource s a ndban dwi dt h that auser con su me s. 
I'm  nota  fan ofcr eat in g a tific i al sca rcity , as  i nD RMon bits th a t  cos tno thin g t odupli cate ,  bu t if yo u're also  ma k ingav ai lable f ormats that c os t to
produ ce , t hen wh y not char ge for those? They're n o t artif ici allyscar ce.

~~~msc hy
_I' m n o t a fa n of c reati ng  at i f icial s ca rci ty , as in DR M onbitsth at c ost
not hing to duplicate_ 
I' m a fan of cr eat inga r ti fic i al sca rc i ty, i f it is what th e seller p re f er s.
I'm dis t urb ed  by the  number  of H a ckers w ho wouldprefer to  s trip i ndi viduals
of  their r ights tod o bus i ne ss as  th ey ple as e,selli ng pro d uct s ontheiron 
terms .

Th emarginal  costs couldn't be more  irrel evant  to  the disc uss i on. 

 
At -coli nprince
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ele k tronaut
I n  N orw e g ia n the offic i a l  na me is  "k r øllalf a",meaning "curly al p ha". Hip in
th e 90 s , 
It's a_poor ad_hominem that this thinking_is "primitive"_and_"anti-
intellectual".

People like_the_economist, Mike Masnic_explains and then_build on freeminum
business model_and the nature_of_non-scarce goods for years

* <http://www.techdirt.com/rtb.php>

Two economists wrote an entire book on why intellectual property_is_flawed.
It's also_quite_a_history lesson in itself since_it cover century of IP
history.

*[http://levine.sscnet.ucla.edu/general/intellectual/againstfi...](http://levine.sscnet.ucla.edu/general/intellectual/againstfinal.htm)

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generalk
_Musicians_should give_away their music and make money off concerts_and
T-shirts._

Why_not give away_the music onlne and also sell CDs?

 _Authors should_give away their books and make_money on the_lecture_circuit._

Or_do like Doctorow and_give away the actual contents of_the books as well as
selling printed_versions.

 _Programmers should give away their software_and make money from consulting._

Alternatively, open_source the software and charge_for a_hosted solution. At
this point you're_not charging for_the software,_you're charging for_the
server resources and bandwidth that a_user consumes.

I'm not_a fan of creating atificial scarcity,_as_in DRM on_bits_that_cost
nothing to_duplicate, but if_you're_also making_available_formats that cost to
produce, then why_not_charge for those? They're not artificially scarce.

~~~
mschy
_I'm_not a fan of_creating_atificial scarcity, as in_DRM on bits that cost
nothing_to duplicate_

I'm a fan of creating_artificial scarcity,_if it_is what the seller prefers.
I'm disturbed by the number of Hackers_who would prefer to strip individuals
of_their rights to do_business as_they_please, selling products_on_their on
terms.

The_marginal costs couldn't be more irrelevant to_the discussion.

_
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elektronaut
In Norwegian the official_name is "krøllalfa", meaning_"curly_alpha". Hip in
the 90s,