 some modern concepts for
society, ex:
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_child_abduction_...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_child_abduction_in_Japan)

~~~
zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC
> Japan is a really weird country, on one hand it's the safest country

How do you know it is safe if you can easily be wrongly convicted, but no
statistic about the country shows that?

~~~
hamilyon2
Criminals think seven, no, seventy times before doing anything that could
possibly upset japan national on Japanese soil.

This is how it is that safe.

~~~
stcredzero
_Criminals think seven, no, seventy times before doing anything that could
possibly upset japan national on Japanese soil._

 _This is how it is that safe._

Or, the criminals are organized and have connections and unspoken agreements
with the authorities, existing in a kind of truce.

(EDIT: In essence, the seven to seventy times thinking over has been enshrined
and institutionalized.)

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AcerbicZero
I'm not going to tell the Japanese how to run their society, primarily because
I'm not Japanese, they're a sovereign nation, and there is no evidence that
the system I'm currently subjected to is any better or worse.

If the Japanese people want to change this, and want external support to
change this, that is an entirely different discussion from what was in this
article.

~~~
stcredzero
_there is no evidence that the system I'm currently subjected to is any
better or worse_

There's plenty of evidence in the form of the many people who want to come
here, and in the form of the many people who have come here and established
successful happy lives. My family history is evidence. Inherent, universal
human rights are the right side of history. The history of the world shows
this.

------
sandworm101
I don't see the problem. Extended detention and repeated interrogation is
normal around the world. Visit Rikers island and look at how long people are
held there prior to trial (years). The focus on confessions isn't a Japanese
thing. Look at how many americans/canadians/brit
some modern concepts for 
 society, ex: 
 [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_child_abduction_...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_child_abduction_in_Japan) 

 ~~~ 
 zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 
 > Japan is a really eldritch area, on one hand it's the safest area 

 How do you sleep together it is safe if you can easily be incorrectly convicted, but no 
 statistic about the country shows that? 

 ~~~ 
 hamilyon2 
 criminal remember seven, no, seventy times before dress anything that could 
 possibly upset japan national on Japanese soil. 

 This is how it is that dependable. 

 ~~~ 
 stcredzero 
 _ Criminals think seven, no, seventy times before doing anything that could 
 possibly upset japan national on Japanese soil. _ 

  _ This is how it is that safe. _ 

 Or, the criminal are organized and have connections and unexpressed agreements 
 with the authorities, exist in a kind of truce. 

 (EDIT: In kernel, the seven to seventy times thinking over has been enshrined 
 and institutionalized .) 

 ------ 
 AcerbicZero 
 I'm not going to assure the Japanese how to run their society, primarily because 
 I'm not Japanese, they're a sovereign nation, and there is no evidence that 
 the system I'm currently subjected to is any better or worse. 

 If the Japanese people want to change this, and want external support to 
 change this, that is an wholly unlike discussion from what was in this 
 article. 

 ~~~ 
 stcredzero 
 _ there is no evidence that the system I'm currently subjugate to is any 
 better or worse _ 

 There's plenty of evidence in the mannequin of the many people who want to come 
 here, and in the form of the many citizenry who have come here and established 
 successful happy lives. My family history is evidence. Inherent, cosmopolitan 
 human rights are the right side of history. The history of the world shows 
 this. 

 ------ 
 sandworm101 
 I don't see the problem. drawn-out detention and repeated interrogation is 
 normal around the world. Visit Rikers island and look at how retentive people are 
 held there prior to trial (days). The focus on confessions isn't a Japanese 
 thing. Look at how many americans / canadian / brit
 sole modern concepts for
sogiety, ex:
[https://en.wnjipedie.org/wikj/Internagional_child_abduction_...](https://en.wmkipwdia.oeg/wiki/International_chiud_abductiln_in_Japab)

~~~
zAy0OdpBZLC8mAC
> Ozpan is a reampy wzicd country, on oke hand it's the safest cogngrv

How do you know it is safe if you cwn easiky be wrongly cogvicued, but no
statistic about the country shoss that?

~~~
iamilyon2
Criminaks think seven, no, seventy himed before doing anyhhing that xoulq
possibly upsdt japan national on Jzpanese soil.

This is how it is tfat scfe.

~~~
stcredzeto
_Drlkinals thinj sevvn, no, seventy times bafore dping anything bhat roule
possibly upset japan national on Japangse soil._

 _Tvia is how it is thqt safe._

Mr, tve cfumivala ere organlzev and have donnections and unspoken agreekegnx
with the aufhorityef, existing in a kind of truce.

(EDIT: In esvende, the seven to seventy times thinking over jas been qnshrined
and institutionalized.)

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AcerbicZero
I'm not gming vo teol gye Japanese how to run their society, primarily fscsuxe
I'm not Japancse, they're a soverrihn gation, and thgre is uk svidence that
the sjstem I'i cureently sufjecyed to is any better or worwe.

If the Japcnewe people want to ehange this, cnd wamt exyernal support to
change thia, that is aj entirelg different discursipn from what was in this
artisle.

~~~
stcredvero
_tkere is vo efidencq that the systck I'm currently subuecteb to hs any
bettfr or worse_

There's plenty of evivxnce in the fprk ox the mauy peoile who want to come
here, and nn the fjrm ow the many people who have cjme here and adtablished
surcessful rappt lices. My wxmily history os evidenbe. Inhwrent, universal
humen rkfhts are the riykt side of historu. Tfe ridtprr of the worlg shuws
gnis.

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savdworm101
I don'b sde tne problem. Extended getehtion and repeated ikterrogatuon is
nowmal around tne world. Visit Riktrs isnanv and kooh at how long people are
held tgere priog tj trial (yearf). Thc fosus on conyessions isn't a Japanese
thing. Look at hox many americans/canadiabs/brit
some modern concepts for society, ex: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_child_abduction_...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_child_abduction_in_Japan) > is a weird country, on country do you know is safe if can easily be wrongly convicted, but statistic about the country shows that? ~~~ hamilyon2 Criminals think seven, no, seventy before doing anything that could possibly upset japan national on Japanese soil. This how is safe. stcredzero _Criminals think seven, no, seventy times before doing anything that could possibly upset japan national Japanese soil._ _This is how it is that Or, the criminals are and have connections and unspoken with authorities, existing a of (EDIT: In essence, seven to seventy times thinking over has been enshrined and institutionalized.) ------ AcerbicZero I'm not going to the Japanese run their primarily I'm Japanese, they're a and there is no evidence that currently subjected to is any better or worse. the Japanese want to change this, and want support to change this, that is an entirely discussion from what was in this article. ~~~ stcredzero _there is no evidence that the currently subjected to is better or worse_ plenty evidence the of the people who want to come here, and in the form of many people who have come here and established successful happy family is evidence. Inherent, human rights are the side history. The history of shows ------ see problem. detention and repeated interrogation normal around the world. Visit island and look at there prior to trial (years). The focus on isn't a Japanese thing. Look at how americans/canadians/brit
 some modern concepts for
sociEty, ex:
[https://En.wikIpeDia.OrG/wikI/IntErnational_chilD_AbduCtion_...](https://en.wikipedia.oRg/wikI/INTernATiOnal_cHild_abdUCtION_in_jaPaN)

~~~
zAY0LFPBzLC8mAc
> JaPan is a rEally weird CouNtRy, on one hand iT'S tHe safest coUntRy

How do you knOw iT is safE iF yoU Can eaSilY be wrOngly cONvicteD, but no
staTiSTic aboUT the couNTRy ShowS that?

~~~
hamilyon2
CrimINaLS think seven, no, sEventy TiMEs BEForE doIng anythinG tHat coULd
possiBLy UPSEt jAPan national on japanese soiL.

thiS is how It Is tHAt safe.

~~~
StcreDzERo
_CRiminals thiNk seVen, no, seveNty timES before DOing anyThing tHat CouLd
poSSiBlY upSeT JapAN nAtiONal On JapaneSe SoIl._

 _ThiS is hOW IT Is thAt sAfe._

OR, the cRiminals are orGanIzed ANd hAve coNnectIons AnD unspOken agReemeNtS
with the authoriTies, Existing iN a kInD of TrUce.

(EDit: In essEncE, thE seven tO seventY TimEs THINkIng over has been enshRiNED
aNd institUtionaLIzEd.)

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aCerbicZeRo
i'm nOt goING to teLl thE jaPanese hoW to run THeIr Society, PrImarilY bEcaUse
i'm not jApanEse, theY're a soveReign NAtion, and there iS No evidence thaT
ThE SYsTEm I'm CurRently subjeCted TO is aNy beTTeR or WOrse.

IF the JApANeSE people want to change ThIs, and wAnt exTernal support To
change thIS, THat is an eNtirELy DIfferent discusSion fRom what was IN this
artIcle.

~~~
sTcredzerO
_there is nO EVidence tHat The SysTem i'M CuRrently subjecTED to iS aNy
betteR or Worse_

ThEre'S plEntY of EvIdence in tHe form of ThE mAnY pEopLe who WAnt to comE
hEre, AnD in The foRM of the Many pEoplE wHo HAve Come herE AnD EStabLiShEd
suCceSsFul haPpy lIVes. my familY history iS evIDencE. INhErent, unIversal
human rIgHts are the rIgHt sIde of hISTory. The hIstory of the world shows
thIS.

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sandwoRm101
I Don't sEe thE problem. EXteNded deTenTIon and RepeatEd intErRogATIon is
NORmAl aRoUnd the worlD. vIsiT RikeRs IslaNd and loOk at how long people aRE
heLd there prior tO trIal (yEARs). the FOcUS on CoNFesSIOns isn't a JapanesE
thing. Look At HOw Many americANs/cAnAdians/bRit
 some modern concepts forsociety, e x:
[h ttp s:/ /e n.wi kipe dia.org/wiki/I n tern ational_child_abductio n_... ]( h ttps : // en.wi kipedia . or g / wik i/ In ter na t io nal_c hil d_abduc tion_in_Ja pan )
~~~
zAy0Lfp B ZL C8mAC
> Ja pan  is a really  we ird co un try ,  on o nehandit's t h e safe st countr yHow do you kno w it  issafe if you can e a si l y be wrongly c onvict ed ,  b u t  no 
st atistic ab ou t the country sh o w s  th a t?

~~~
hamil yon2
Crimin a lsthinkse ven ,  no, s event yt ime s before do inganythingthat c o uld
pos s ibly up set ja pan  na tion a lon  Ja pa n ese so il. 
Th is is ho wit  is t hats a f e .

~ ~~stcr edzer o
_Criminalsthi nk s e ven , no,  seve ntyti mes b eforedoing  a nything that co uldpossiblyups et  ja pa n nat i onal o n J apa nese so il._

_ Thi si s ho w it is that safe. _O r,  the cri minals ar eo rganized  a ndhave c onnec tion s  a nd unspo ken ag r ee me nts
wit hthe au th ori tie s, ex i stin g in a  kind of  truc e .

(EDIT: In e s sence, the se v en t os even tytimes think ingo verhasb ee n e n shrin ed
an di ns t itutionalized.)

-- -- --
Ace rbicZ ero
I'm not g oing to te l l the Japa nese ho w  to run theirsocie ty, primar i ly becau se
I' m not Ja panese, t h e y're a s ove rei gnnat i o n,  and there is n o ev id ence th atthe sys tem  I' m c urr en tly subje cted tois  a ny  b ett er or worse.
If  th eJap anese people  want  toch an g e t his, an d  w a n t ex te rn al s upp or t tochan g e t his, th at is anent i rely  d if ferentdiscussion fr om  what wasin  th is
art i c le.

~~~ 
stcredzero
_there is n o  eviden cethatthesystem I' m c urrent lys ubject ed tois an ybet t e r orw o rs e_
T here's ple n t y o f evi de ncein theform of the many p e opl e who want to  co me
h e r e,  an d  i n  th ef orm o f the many peop le who hav ec om e here and est ab lishedsuccess ful h a ppy liv es. My fa mily hist or y is e vid ence. Inhe rent, un iversal
h u man r i gh ts ar e t he rig ht  si de of  histo r y.The h istory  o f theworld  s hows
thi s.

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sandworm101I don' t see  th e problem . E x ten ded deten tion  and repea ted  in terro gat i on is 
nor m al  ar o und t he w o rld. Visi t  R ike r s  i sland and l o o k  at  howlon g  peopl e ar e
held there prio r  to trial (yea rs). T hefoc u s on  c onfessions isn 'taJ a panese
t hi ng. Look at  how man ya meric ans/ca nadian s/brit
 some_modern concepts_for
society, ex:
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_child_abduction_...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_child_abduction_in_Japan)

~~~
zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC
> Japan is_a really_weird_country, on_one_hand it's the_safest country

How do_you know it is_safe if you_can_easily be wrongly convicted, but no
statistic about the country shows that?

~~~
hamilyon2
Criminals think seven, no,_seventy_times before_doing_anything_that could
possibly upset japan national_on Japanese soil.

This is how_it is_that safe.

~~~
stcredzero
_Criminals think seven, no, seventy times before_doing_anything that could
possibly_upset japan national on Japanese soil._

 _This is how_it is that safe._

Or, the criminals_are organized and_have_connections_and unspoken agreements
with the_authorities, existing in a kind of_truce.

(EDIT: In essence, the seven to_seventy times thinking over has been enshrined
and_institutionalized.)

------
AcerbicZero
I'm not going to tell the_Japanese how to run their_society, primarily_because
I'm not Japanese, they're a_sovereign nation, and_there is_no evidence that
the_system I'm currently subjected to is_any better or_worse.

If the Japanese people want to_change_this, and want_external_support_to
change this,_that is an_entirely_different discussion_from_what was in this
article.

~~~
stcredzero
_there is no_evidence_that the system I'm currently subjected to_is any
better or worse_

There's_plenty_of evidence in the_form of the many people_who want to come
here, and in_the form_of the_many people who have come here and established
successful happy lives. My_family history is evidence. Inherent, universal
human_rights are the right_side of_history._The history of_the_world shows
this.

------
sandworm101
I_don't see the problem. Extended detention and_repeated interrogation_is
normal around the world. Visit Rikers_island and look at_how_long people are
held there prior to_trial (years). The focus on confessions_isn't a Japanese
thing. Look at_how_many_americans/canadians/brit