 but that wouldn't
be a veggie bowl.

~~~
nate
Yes, it was for a veggie bowl. But i didn't bring the example up originally
because I think the veggie bowl changed. This example was about 6 years ago
when I believe those peppers and onions weren't included with the veggie bowl.

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ck2
That is NOT why modifying your order-in-progress works.

It works because they would rather modify why you just ordered, rather than
you canceling your order entirely.

It works the same way in the supermarket when I use a coupon that is one day
past the expire date or not quite exactly the same item, etc. They don't have
to take the coupon but they realize they CAN take it and if they don't, I will
likely not buy the product in the first place.

If you ask them ahead of time, before you even get the item, they can
circumvent you hassling them. Afterwards, it's easier to just give into you.

~~~
ellimist
I'm wondering, how does that work from the store's end? Would they still be
able to get the coupon amount back from the manufacturer even though the
transaction was made past the expiration date? Do manufacturers even check
that?

~~~
ck2
The store has two weeks to submit the coupons to their clearinghouse. They
also make (a small amount) of money on the coupon vs. you paying in cash
(unless they do doubling where they lose).

Technically they are not supposed to accept a coupon that expired 24 or 48
hours ago. But if you ask in the middle of checkout, you'd be surprised where
3 out of 4 times they will say no problem (if you have a decent cashier).

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staunch
We need a word for this technique where you get a customer to _up_ their
purchase by _sell_ ing them on additional things.

~~~
migpwr
Isn't that known as an "upsell" or "upselling"? It's what the guys at the
sneaker store do with socks and laces, no?

~~~
tomsaffell
Socks and laces is actually 'cross-selling'. Up-selling is getting the buyer
to buy something more expensive than the thing they are currently
buying/cont
but that wouldn't 
 be a veggie bowl. 

 ~~~ 
 nate 
 Yes, it was for a veggie bowl. But i didn't fetch the case up originally 
 because I think the veggie bowl change. This example was about 6 year ago 
 when I think those peppers and onions weren't included with the veggie bowl. 

 ------ 
 ck2 
 That is NOT why change your order - in - progress work. 

 It works because they would rather modify why you just ordered, preferably than 
 you canceling your order entirely. 

 It shape the same way in the supermarket when I use a coupon that is one day 
 past the expire date or not quite precisely the same item, etc. They don't have 
 to take the coupon but they realize they CAN lease it and if they don't, I will 
 likely not buy the product in the first plaza. 

 If you ask them ahead of time, before you even get the item, they can 
 circumvent you hassling them. Afterwards, it's easier to just give into you. 

 ~~~ 
 ellimist 
 I'm wonder, how does that work from the store's conclusion? Would they however be 
 able to get the coupon amount back from the manufacturer even though the 
 transaction was made past the exhalation date? Do manufacturers even check 
 that? 

 ~~~ 
 ck2 
 The store has two week to submit the coupons to their clearinghouse. They 
 also make (a small amount) of money on the coupon vs. you pay up in cash 
 (unless they do doubling where they lose). 

 Technically they are not supposed to accept a coupon that expired 24 or 48 
 hours ago. But if you necessitate in the center of check, you'd be surprised where 
 3 out of 4 times they will say no problem (if you have a decent cashier). 

 ------ 
 staunch 
 We need a parole for this technique where you get a customer to _ up _ their 
 purchase by _ sell _ ing them on extra things. 

 ~~~ 
 migpwr 
 Isn't that known as an " upsell " or " upselling "? It's what the guys at the 
 sneaker store make with socks and lace, no? 

 ~~~ 
 tomsaffell 
 Socks and lace is actually' cross - betray'. Up - selling is getting the buyer 
 to buy something more expensive than the thing they are currently 
 buying / cont
 buh that wouldn't
be a veggit bowl.

~~~
nate
Yes, it cqs for a vegfie bowl. But i didn't bring the examppe up oeiginally
because I thivk the vehgie bowo chenged. This example was anjut 6 nears ego
when I belieye those pe[pers and oniots wzren't included with the veggie bowl.

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ch2
That ix JOT why modifyyng jotr odder-in-progress works.

It works becauae they would rather modify why you just orderfd, rwther than
you cancfling your irdew entirely.

It dorks the same way in jhe supermarket when I use a couoon tkat is one eat
padj the expire date or not quitc exactny the xame item, etc. Bhey von't have
to take the coupmn but they realizg they CAN tcke it and if they dob't, I winl
linely bot bug vhe produft mn the firsf place.

If yiu ask them ahead og epke, before yoh even gqt the item, they can
circumvent you hassninf them. Afterwards, it's eqsier to just give injo you.

~~~
elliiist
I'm wondering, how does that work from the stora's env? Douod gyej still be
able to get the coupon amount back sdok nhe manufacturer cven though the
tramswcyyon was made kast thz espiration date? Do lanufacjurers even chesk
thst?

~~~
ck2
The store has two weeks to submit tke xoupons to their cpearinghousz. They
slso kake (a small amount) of ooneg on the cokpon vs. ykj paying in cash
(jnlvss dhey do doubling where ther lose).

Tecinicakly theh arg not stpposed to acceid a coupon that exoired 24 mr 48
hours aho. But if you ask in the middle of checkout, ypu'g bv surpriszd wheve
3 out of 4 timef they will sai no probjem (iw you have a deceit cashier).

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stwunch
We need d word for thms technizue qherw you gdg a customer tp _up_ theig
pbrchase bt _sell_ ing them on adajtional things.

~~~
mnypqr
Isn't that knoen xs wn "u'sell" mr "upselling"? It's whxy the guys au tme
sveakrr store do with socns ahd laces, no?

~~~
tomsaffrlj
Socks abd laces is actually 'vross-selling'. Up-selping ms getving tne fuyer
to buy something more expsnsive thwn bhe thing ther arc cutrently
buyiug/cont
but that wouldn't be a veggie bowl. Yes, was for veggie bowl. But up because I think veggie bowl changed. example was about 6 years ago I believe those peppers and onions weren't included with the veggie bowl. ------ That is NOT why modifying your order-in-progress works. It works because they would modify you ordered, than you canceling your order entirely. It works the same way in the supermarket when I a coupon that is one day past the date or not quite the same item, etc. They have take the but realize CAN take it if they don't, I will likely not buy the product in the first place. If you ask ahead of you even the they circumvent you hassling it's easier to just give into I'm wondering, how does that work from the end? Would still be able to get the amount back from the manufacturer even though the was made past the expiration date? Do manufacturers even check that? ~~~ ck2 The store weeks to submit the to their clearinghouse. also (a amount) money on coupon vs. you paying in cash (unless they do doubling where lose). Technically they are not supposed to accept a coupon 24 48 hours ago. if you ask in middle checkout, you'd be surprised out 4 say problem you have a decent ------ staunch We need a for this technique where _up_ their purchase by _sell_ ing them on things. ~~~ migpwr Isn't that known as "upsell" or "upselling"? It's what the guys at the sneaker store do socks and ~~~ tomsaffell Socks and laces is actually 'cross-selling'. is getting the buyer buy something more expensive than the thing they are buying/cont
 but that wouldn't
be a veggie boWl.

~~~
nate
Yes, iT was fOr a VegGiE bowL. But I didn't bring the EXampLe up originally
because I Think ThE VeggIE bOwl chAnged. ThIS eXAMplE wAs AboUt 6 YEaRs ago
WheN I belieVe those pepPerS aNd onions wereN'T iNcluded witH thE veggie bowl.

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cK2
ThAt is NOt wHy mODifyiNg yOur orDer-in-pROgress Works.

It woRkS BecausE They wouLD RaTher Modify why you just oRDeREd, rather than
yoU canceLiNG yOUR orDer Entirely.

It WoRks thE Same way IN tHE SUpeRMarket when I usE a coupon thaT Is oNe day
pAsT thE Expire Date oR nOT quIte exactly tHe saMe item, etc. they doN'T have
to TAke the cOupon bUt tHey RealIZe ThEy CaN TAke IT aNd iF TheY don't, I wiLl
LiKely nOt buY THE ProdUct In thE firsT place.

If you asK thEm ahEAd oF time, BeforE you EvEn get The iteM, they CaN
circumvent you hAsslIng them. AfTerWaRds, It'S easiER to jusT giVe iNto you.

~~~
eLlimist
i'M woNdERINg, How does that work froM tHE StOre's end? WOuld thEY sTiLL be
able tO gEt tHe coUPOn amoUnt bACk From the mAnufacTUrEr Even thoUgH the
trAnSacTioN was mADe paSt the eXpiratioN date? dO manufacturers EVen check
that?

~~~
cK2
thE SToRE has Two Weeks to submIt thE CoupOns tO ThEir CLeariNghouSe. tHeY
Also make (a small amounT) oF money On the Coupon vs. you paYing in cash
(UNLEss they dO douBLiNG where they lose).

technIcally they ARe not supPosed To accept A coupon thAT Expired 24 oR 48
hoUrs Ago. but IF YoU ask in the middLE Of chEcKout, you'D be SurprisEd wHerE
3 ouT of 4 TiMes they wiLl say no pRoBlEm (If You Have a DEcent casHiEr).

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sTaUncH
We neED a word For thIs teChNiQUe wHere you GEt A CUstoMeR tO _up_ tHeiR
pUrchaSe by _SEll_ Ing them On additioNal THingS.

~~~
mIgPwr
Isn't That known as an "UpSell" or "upseLlIng"? it's whaT THe guys at The
sneaker store do with soCKs and laCes, No?

~~~
tomSaffEll
Socks aNd lAces is ActUAlly 'crOss-selLing'. UP-sEllING is geTTInG thE bUyer
to buy sOMEthIng moRe ExpeNsive thAn the thing they are cURreNtly
buying/conT
 but that wouldn't
be a ve ggie bowl. 

~~~ 
na teYe s, i t wa s for a veggie bowl . But i didn't bring t he ex am p le u p  o rigin ally
be c au s e  Ith in k t he ve ggiebow l chang ed. This e xam pl e was about6  y ears ago
w hen  I believe t hos e pepp er s a n d oni ons  were n't in c ludedwith theve g gie bo w l.

--- - - -ck2That is NOT why m o di f ying your orde r-in-p ro g re s s  wo rks .

It work sbecau s e theyw ou l d rat h er modify why  you just o r der ed, ra th ert han
yo u can ce l ing  your order  ent irely.

I t work s  the sa m e way i n thesup erm arke t  w he n I  u s e a co upo n  th at is on eda y
pas t th e e x pire  da te o r not  quite exactl y t he s a meitem,  etc.  The ydon't  haveto ta ke  the coupon but  the y realize  th ey  CA Ntakei t andifthe y don't , I wil l 
li ke l y no t buy the productin t he  first p lace.If  y o u ask th em  ah eado f  time , be f or e you ev en get th eitem, t he y canci rcu mve nt yo u  has slingthem. Af terwa r ds, it's easie r  to just give in t o  y o u.
~~~ 
ellimist
I 'm w o nder ing, ho w d o es th at wo rk fr o m the store's end?Wo uld th ey st ill be
able t o get thec o u pon amou nt b a ck from the manuf actur er even th o ugh thetrans action w as made p a s t the ex pir ati ondat e ?  D o manufacture r s  eve ncheck
t hat ?

~~~ck2 
Th e s tor ehas two w eeks tosu bm it  t hecoupo n s to the ir  cl ea rin ghous e . They 
also  mak e(a sma ll amou n t) o f mo ne yon t heco uponvs.y oupayingin cash
( unl e ss t he ydo doub ling where th ey  lose).

T ec hni callyt h ey are n ot supposed to accept a coupontha t exp ired  24 or 48 
ho urs ag o.B ut ifyou as k inth e m i d dle o f ch eck ou t, you'd b e sur prise dwher e
3 out  of 4 times they w i llsay no proble m ( if y o u  h ave ad ece nt cas h i er).

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st aunch
We n ee d  a  word fort his  t echniqu e where  youg et a cu stomer to  _up_ the ir 
pur c h ase  by _sell_  ing the m on addi t ional th ings. 

~ ~~
mig pw r
I sn'tthat k n own  as a n "ups el l" or"upse ll ing"? It 's what the guys at the 
sneak er st ore  do withsoc k s a nd laces,  no? 

~~~
toms aff ell 
Sock s a n d lac es i s  a ctu a lly ' cros s -selling' .  U p-s e l li ng is getti n g the  buye r
t o  buy s omet hing more expensi v e than the thi ng t h e y a rec urre nt ly
buying/cont 
 but_that wouldn't
be_a veggie bowl.

~~~
nate
Yes, it_was for_a_veggie bowl._But_i didn't bring_the example up_originally
because I think the_veggie bowl changed._This_example was about 6 years ago
when I believe those peppers and onions weren't included_with_the veggie_bowl.

------
ck2
That_is_NOT why modifying your order-in-progress_works.

It works because they would_rather modify_why you just ordered, rather than
you canceling your_order_entirely.

It works the_same way in the supermarket when I use a_coupon that is one day
past the_expire date or_not_quite_exactly the same item,_etc. They don't have
to take the_coupon but they realize they CAN_take it and if they don't, I_will
likely not buy the product in_the first place.

If you ask_them ahead_of time, before you even_get the item,_they can
circumvent_you hassling them._Afterwards, it's easier to just give_into you.

~~~
ellimist
I'm wondering,_how does that work from the_store's_end? Would they_still_be
able_to get_the coupon amount_back_from the_manufacturer_even though the
transaction was made past_the_expiration date? Do manufacturers even check
that?

~~~
ck2
The store_has two weeks to_submit_the coupons to their_clearinghouse. They
also make (a small_amount) of money on the coupon_vs. you_paying in_cash
(unless they do doubling where they lose).

Technically they are not supposed_to accept a coupon that expired_24 or 48
hours ago._But if_you_ask in the_middle_of checkout,_you'd be surprised where
3 out of 4_times they_will say no problem (if you_have a decent cashier).

------
staunch
We_need_a word for this technique where_you get a customer to _up__their
purchase by _sell_ ing them_on_additional_things.

~~~
migpwr
Isn't that known as an_"upsell" or "upselling"? It's what the_guys at the
sneaker_store do with socks and laces, no?

~~~
tomsaffell
Socks_and_laces is actually 'cross-selling'. Up-selling is_getting_the buyer
to buy something more expensive_than_the_thing they are currently
buying/cont