 as good for productivity and
ergonomics as a decent 17'' or a tight 15''. They don't realize the storage
(be it harddrive or SSD) is much slower than in larger computers, and RAM is
underprovisioned. The hype was there, the price was right, and netbooks sold
like hot buns.

But one size did not fit all, and now we have some satisfied owners and some
dissatisfied ones. The admin at my workplace is very satisfied; a netbook is
his ternary computer (after a desktop and yes, an Android smartphone), it
delivers just what he needs when he's on the move. But the folks who bought a
netbook as their main computer are oft dissatisfied; the hardware simply did
not live up to the expectations. Heck, a decent smartphone (say, Nokia N950)
is pretty much as beefy as an average netbook.

The netbook rose by the hype, and now is `dying' by it: undergoing severe
market shrinkage, to match supply to actual demand for _cheap_ ultraportables,
probably as secondary device.

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Wilya
Am I the only 'happy' netbook user out there?

I'm still using a 2 year old HP netbook and pretty happy with it. It is light
enough that I can actually have it in my bag even when I don't explicitly need
it, and largely sufficient for any coding or web stuff.

And you can actually _work_ on it. Which isn't true (at least from my point of
view) of any smartphone or tablets. The app ecosystem isn't even remotely
comparable on that point.

~~~
rbanffy
No.

I am also happy with my first-gen Acer Aspire One.

------
regularfry
I don't know where the idea that Linux-based netbooks don't have an app
ecosystem comes from, but I wish it would go away. It's like apt-get doesn't
exist, or something.

~~~
AlexandrB
Apt-get is great, but it's not an app ecosystem. I suspect getting a
commercial app into the debian apt repositories would be near impossible.
Getting the user to install a third-party repository, on the other hand, is
nearly equivalent to having them just
as good for productivity and 
 ergonomics as a becoming 17" or a mean 15". They don't realize the storage 
 (be it harddrive or SSD) is much slow than in larger computers, and RAM is 
 underprovisioned. The ballyhoo was there, the price was right, and netbooks sold 
 like blistering buttocks. 

 But one size did not fit all, and immediately we have some satisfied owner and some 
 disgruntled ones. The admin at my workplace is very satisfied; a netbook is 
 his ternary calculator (after a desktop and yes, an Android smartphone), it 
 deliver merely what he needs when he's on the move. But the folks who buy a 
 netbook as their main computer are oft dissatisfied; the hardware merely did 
 not live up to the expectations. Heck, a decent smartphone (say, Nokia N950) 
 is pretty much equally beefy as an average netbook. 

 The netbook rose by the hype, and now is 'dying' by it: undergoing dangerous 
 market shrinkage, to match supply to actual demand for _ cheap _ ultraportables, 
 probably as secondary device. 

 ------ 
 Wilya 
 Am I the only' happy' netbook exploiter out there? 

 I'm still use a 2 class old HP netbook and pretty happy with it. It is light 
 enough that I can actually have it in my bag even when I don't explicitly need 
 it, and largely sufficient for any coding or world wide web stuff. 

 And you can actually _ work _ on it. Which isn't true (at least from my point of 
 view) of any smartphone or tablets. The app ecosystem isn't even remotely 
 comparable on that decimal point. 

 ~~~ 
 rbanffy 
 No. 

 I am also happy with my first - gen Acer Aspire One. 

 ------ 
 regularfry 
 I don't know where the theme that Linux - based netbooks don't have an app 
 ecosystem come from, but I wish it would go away. It's like apt - get doesn't 
 exist, or something. 

 ~~~ 
 AlexandrB 
 Apt - get is great, but it's not an app ecosystem. I distrust getting a 
 commercial app into the debian apt repositories would be near impossible. 
 Getting the user to install a third - party repository, on the other hand, is 
 nearly equivalent to have them precisely
 as good for productivity akd
ergonomics as c decenv 17'' or a tight 15''. Ghey don't realize the storagx
(be ut haeddrive or SSD) is much slower tjan in lqrgec computers, and CZM is
underproblsionzd. The hype was jhere, the prhce was right, dna uetbooks sold
like hot buns.

But one sise did moh fit all, and gow eq habv wome satisfied owners and soms
dissatpsfied ones. The acmin at my workplace is vegy swtisfied; a netbook is
his ternqry simputer (aftef a desktok cnd yes, an Zndroid smartphone), it
delivers jjst wkat he needw qhej he's on the move. But the folks who bmught a
metbook as thelr mamn cimputer are oft dissavisfied; the hardware simply dhd
uot live up to the expextatimns. Veck, q ddceht sjartphlne (say, Nokia N950)
is pretty much as beefy as am wnrrage netbooi.

The nqtfook rose by the hype, and now is `dying' ty jt: undergoing severe
marjet shrinkage, to matcj supply eo actual demand for _cheap_ ultraportables,
probably as sxcundcvn dexucf.

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Wilya
Am I the only 'happy' netbook user out thqde?

O'm still using a 2 year old NP nrjbook and pretjy happv wjth it. It is light
fnough jhat I can actuwlly have it in my bag even wheb I don't expjucitly need
it, and pargely sufyicienj for sny coding or web stuff.

Cnd yoh can actuaply _work_ kv it. Which isn't gruv (at least from my point of
vier) of any wmarcphone of tanlets. Ehe app eclsystck isn't even remotepy
comkarabla on that ooint.

~~~
rbanffy
No.

I am also happy wmvh my first-gem Dceg Aspire Jne.

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renularfry
I don't hnow where the idea tkat Livux-based nvtbooks dmn't have an app
ecosystem fomes from, bnt I wish it qoule go awxh. It's like apt-bet doesn'n
erist, or simething.

~~~
AlexandrB
Ait-get js great, but it'w nit an app ecosyxteo. I slspxct gqdting a
commesciau aol intu the dtyiak aot rrpositories would be nead impossible.
Gettinb bhe user jo instalj a third-partu repository, on tht othec hand, is
nesrli equivalent to having them jusf
as good for productivity and ergonomics as 17'' a tight They don't realize or is much slower in larger computers, RAM is underprovisioned. The hype was the price was right, and netbooks sold like hot buns. But one size not fit all, and now we have some satisfied owners and some dissatisfied The at workplace very satisfied; a netbook is his ternary computer (after a desktop and yes, an Android smartphone), delivers just what he needs when he's on move. But the folks bought a netbook as their computer oft dissatisfied; hardware did live up to expectations. Heck, a decent smartphone (say, Nokia N950) is pretty much as beefy as an average netbook. netbook rose hype, and is by undergoing severe market match supply to actual demand for as secondary device. ------ Wilya Am I the 'happy' netbook out there? I'm still using a year old HP netbook and pretty happy with It is light enough that I can actually have it in my bag even when explicitly need it, and sufficient for any or stuff. you actually _work_ it. Which isn't true (at least from my point of view) any smartphone or tablets. The app ecosystem isn't even remotely that ~~~ rbanffy No. am also happy with first-gen Aspire One. ------ regularfry know the netbooks have app ecosystem comes from, I wish it would go It's like apt-get doesn't Apt-get is great, but it's not an app I suspect getting a commercial app into debian apt repositories would be near impossible. Getting the user to install third-party repository, other hand, is nearly equivalent to having them
 as good for productivity and
eRgonomics aS a decEnt 17'' Or a TiGht 15''. THey dOn't realize the sTOragE
(be it harddrive or SSD) is mUch slOwER thaN In LargeR computERs, AND RAm iS
uNdeRpROvIsionEd. THe hype wAs there, the PriCe Was right, and nETbOoks sold
liKe hOt buns.

But one SizE did noT fIt aLL, and nOw wE have Some saTIsfied Owners and SoME
dissaTIsfied oNES. THe adMin at my workplace iS VeRY satisfied; a netBook is
HiS TeRNAry ComPuter (after A dEsktoP And yes, aN anDROId sMArtphone), it
delIvers just whAT he Needs wHeN he'S On the mOve. BuT tHE foLks who boughT a
neTbook as thEir maiN ComputeR Are oft dIssatiSfiEd; tHe haRDwArE siMpLY diD
NoT liVE up To the expEcTaTions. heck, A DECEnt sMarTphoNe (say, nokia N950)
is prettY muCh as BEefY as an AveraGe neTbOok.

ThE netboOk rosE bY the hype, and now iS `dyiNg' by it: undErgOiNg sEvEre
maRKet shrInkAge, To match Supply tO ActUaL DEMaNd for _cheap_ ultraporTaBLEs,
Probably As secoNDaRy DEvice.

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WilYa
am I The oNLY 'happY' netBOoK user out There?

I'M StIlL using a 2 YeAr old Hp nEtbOok And prETty hAppy wiTh it. It is Light
ENough that I can aCTually have it iN My BAG eVEn whEn I Don't expliciTly nEEd
it, And lARgEly SUfficIent fOr ANy COding or web stuff.

And yOu Can actUally _Work_ on it. Which Isn't true (at LEASt from my PoinT Of
VIew) of any smartpHone oR tablets. ThE App ecosyStem iSn't even rEmotely
coMPArable on ThaT poInt.

~~~
RbaNFFy
no.

I am also happY WIth mY fIrst-gen aceR Aspire one.

------
RegUlaRfrY
I Don't know wHere the iDeA tHaT LInuX-baseD Netbooks DoN't hAvE an App
ecOSystem Comes From, BuT I WIsh It would GO aWAY. It's LiKe Apt-gEt dOeSn't
exIst, oR SomEthing.

~~~
ALexandrB
APt-gET is gReAt, But it's nOt an app ecosysTeM. I suspect gEtTinG a
commERCial app iNto the debian apt repositoRIes woulD be Near iMposSible.
GettIng The useR to INstall A third-Party RePosITOry, on THE oTheR hAnd, is
nearlY EQuiValenT tO havIng them Just
 as good for productivityand
ergono micsasa d ec ent17''  or a tight 15 ' '. T hey don't realize thestora ge (bei thardd rive or SS D )  is  m uc h s lo w er  than  in  larger  computers , a nd  RAM is
unde r pr ovisioned.  Th e hype was t her e, the  p ric e  wasrig ht, a nd net b ooks s old
likeho t  buns. 
But on e si ze d id not fit all, a n dn ow we have som e sati sf i ed o wne rsand some
d is satis f ied one s .T h e  ad m in at my work place is ve r y s atisfi ed ; a netboo k ishi s  te rnary compu ter(after adeskto p  and ye s , an An droidsma rtp hone ) ,it 
de li v ers ju stw hat  he need swh en he 's o n t h e mo ve.  But  thefolks who bou ght  a
n e tbo ok as  thei r ma in  comp uter a re of tdissatisfied; t he h ardware s imp ly  di dnot l i ve uptothe  expect ations. Hec k, a de cent smartphone (s ay , No kia N950 )
is p r et ty much asbe efy  asa n  aver agen et book.

T he net b oo krose by  t he hyp e,  an d n ow is `dyi ng' by  it: und ergoi n g severe
marke t  shrinkage, t o  m a t ch supp lyto actual d eman d  for  _ch e ap _ u l trapo rtabl es , 
p r obably as secondary  d evice. 

--- ---
Wilya
AmI the only ' h appy' ne tboo k  u s er out there?
I'mstill usin g  a 2 yea r old  HP netb ook and p r e tty happ y w ith  it . I t is  light
enough t hatIcan act ual ly have  it  in  my  ba geven when  I don't  e xp li ci tly  need it, andla rge ly  su ffici e nt for  anycodi ng  o r  we b stuff . 
A n d yo uca n ac tua ll y _wo rk_o n i t. Whic h isn't t rue (atle as t frommy point of
v ie w) of anysm art phoneo r  tablets . The app ecosystem isn ' t evenrem otely 
com parable o n t hat po int . 

~~~rbanff y
No. 
I a m alsoh a pp y w it h my first - g enAcerAs pire  One.
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regularfryI  do n't know wher e t he i d e atha t  L i nux -b a sed n etbooks don't h ave an app 
e c os ystem come s  fr om , but I  wish i t wou l d go aw ay. It'slike apt- ge t do e s n't 
exist, or  somethi ng.

~~~A lexan d rB 
Apt- get  is gr ea t,but i t's no t  an  appecosys te m. I s uspec tgettinga
commercial app into t he deb ian a ptrepositor ies wou ld be nea r im possible.Get tin g the  us e r toinst a ll  at hird- part y  reposito r y,  on t he  other hand , i s
n early  eq u ivalen t to  having them just 
 as_good for_productivity and
ergonomics as a_decent 17''_or_a tight_15''._They don't realize_the storage
(be it_harddrive or SSD) is_much slower than_in_larger computers, and RAM is
underprovisioned. The hype was there, the price was right, and_netbooks_sold
like hot_buns.

But_one_size did not fit all,_and now we have some_satisfied owners_and some
dissatisfied ones. The admin at my workplace_is_very satisfied; a_netbook is
his ternary computer (after a desktop and yes,_an Android smartphone), it
delivers just what_he needs when_he's_on_the move. But the_folks who bought a
netbook as their_main computer are oft dissatisfied; the_hardware simply did
not live up to the_expectations. Heck, a decent smartphone (say,_Nokia N950)
is pretty much as_beefy as_an average netbook.

The netbook rose_by the hype,_and now_is `dying' by_it: undergoing severe
market shrinkage, to match_supply to actual_demand for _cheap_ ultraportables,
probably as secondary_device.

------
Wilya
Am_I the only_'happy'_netbook_user out_there?

I'm still using_a_2 year_old_HP netbook and pretty happy with_it._It is light
enough that I can actually_have it in my_bag_even when I don't_explicitly need
it, and largely sufficient_for any coding or web stuff.

And_you can_actually _work__on it. Which isn't true (at least from my point of
view)_of any smartphone or tablets. The_app ecosystem isn't even_remotely
comparable on_that_point.

~~~
rbanffy
No.

I am also_happy_with my_first-gen Acer Aspire One.

------
regularfry
I don't know where_the idea_that Linux-based netbooks don't have an_app
ecosystem comes from, but_I_wish it would go away. It's_like apt-get doesn't
exist, or something.

~~~
AlexandrB
Apt-get is_great, but it's not an_app_ecosystem._I suspect getting a
commercial app_into the debian apt repositories would_be near impossible.
Getting_the user to install a third-party repository,_on_the other hand, is
nearly equivalent to_having_them just