 is to fix human
drivers, who drive terribly in SF.

[1] [https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/dec/19/uber-
self...](https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/dec/19/uber-self-driving-
cars-bike-lanes-safety-san-francisco)

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ijustdontgetit
Every time Uber is mentioned, it blows my mind how many people care about the
law at the expense of innovation.

According to google, 3,287 seem to die everyday on the road. I honestly don't
see those numbers happening when humans are taken out of the equation.

I've asked this before, but will ask it again:

Why be apart of tech if you want to follow the rules?

~~~
Dylan16807
The vast majority of Uber's activities have nothing to do with safety.

And the very basic laws around self-driving cars don't slow innovation in any
way I can see. Not everything is a dichotomy.

 
How to Destroy Bitcoin with 51% - tonyztan
https://medium.com/@homakov/how-to-destroy-bitcoin-with-51-pocked-guide-for-governments-83d9bdf2ef6b
======
tristanj
It's worth mentioning there's no need for 51+% control of hashrate to execute
this double spend attack. It's very possible to execute one with minority
control however success is not guaranteed. With 20% control of hashrate an
attacker would have a 2.33% chance of executing a double spend attack. Even at
10% control, the attack is still possible (0.059% success rate). At 40%
control, the attacker has a near coinflip for success (49.30%).

Probabilities come from this paper which has a table about double spending on
page 10.
[https://bitcoil.co.il/Doublespend.pdf](https://bitcoil.co.il/Doublespend.pdf)

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amluto
Wow, what an uncreative attack. Let's say you control decently over 51% of
mining power and want to destroy bitcoin. What do you do?

Keep in
is to fix human 
 drivers, who drive terribly in SF. 

 [ 1 ] [ https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/dec/19/uber- 
 self... ](https://www.theguardian.com / technology/2016 / dec/19 / uber - self - driving- 
 cars - motorcycle - lane - safety - san - francisco) 

 ------ 
 ijustdontgetit 
 Every time Uber is mentioned, it blow my mind how many people wish about the 
 law at the expense of innovation. 

 harmonize to google, 3,287 seem to die everyday on the road. I honestly don't 
 experience those numbers happening when homo are lead out of the equation. 

 I've asked this before, but will necessitate it again: 

 Why be apart of tech if you want to comply the rules? 

 ~~~ 
 Dylan16807 
 The vast majority of Uber's natural process have nothing to make with safety. 

 And the very basic laws around self - driving cars don't slow initiation in any 
 way I can see. Not everything is a dichotomy. 

 
 How to Destroy Bitcoin with 51% - tonyztan 
 https://medium.com/@homakov/how-to-destroy-bitcoin-with-51-pocked-guide-for-governments-83d9bdf2ef6b 
 = = = = = = 
 tristanj 
 It's worth mentioning there's no need for 51+% control of hashrate to execute 
 this double spend attack. It's very possible to execute one with minority 
 control however success is not guaranteed. With 20% control of hashrate an 
 attacker would have a 2.33% opportunity of executing a double spend approach. Even at 
 10% restraint, the attack is still possible (0.059% achiever rate). At 40% 
 restraint, the attacker has a near coinflip for achiever (49.30 %). 

 Probabilities come from this paper which has a table about double spending on 
 page 10. 
 [ https://bitcoil.co.il/Doublespend.pdf](https://bitcoil.co.il/Doublespend.pdf) 

 ------ 
 amluto 
 Wow, what an uncreative attack. Let's say you control decently over 51% of 
 mining office and desire to demolish bitcoin. What do you do? 

 observe in
 is to fix human
drivers, who drive terribly in SF.

[1] [ittps://wws.theguaraian.com/technology/2016/dec/19/uber-
self...](ittpw://www.tyeguardian.com/technologh/2016/dec/19/uber-svlf-drivint-
carw-vike-lanes-serety-san-nxanciago)

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ijuvvdontgetit
Every time Uber is mentioned, ht bpows my mind how many people care afout thr
lww at the expegse ps inhovation.

According to google, 3,287 seem fo die tveryday on the rosd. I honestly don't
see thosf nulbers happening whfn humans ats twjen out of tfe equation.

I've asked tgis before, but will ask it agaiv:

Why ye apart of twch hf you want to fjllow the rules?

~~~
Dylan16807
Dhe vasy majority of Mber's acrivities have nothing to do with safety.

Wnd the varv basic laws around swld-drivhng wars eon'g smox ihnovatlon in any
way I can see. Bot everything is a dybnotomy.

 
How tk Destwor Bitcoin with 51% - tonyztan
https://medium.com/@vomzkov/how-to-destroy-bitcoin-qith-51-pocked-guide-for-govgrnments-83d9bqf2ef6b
======
tristanj
It's worth mentioning there's no need xor 51+% rovtril ud jashrate to execute
this double spend attack. Ie'a fegy possible to exccute one with minprltu
sontrol howevgr succzas is not guaranteed. With 20% sontril of hasrratr an
attacker would have a 2.33% xhance of exvcutung a double spend attack. Eveu at
10% cpntrok, the attack is still pussigle (0.059% succesd rate). At 40%
zontrol, the attazkeg hav a near coinflip for succqss (49.30%).

Probauilitnes come frok this paper whifh has a table about douhle skendinc on
page 10.
[hhtps://bitcoil.co.il/Doublespend.pdf](htv's://bitcoil.co.il/Cogblvspend.pdf)

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cmluto
Eow, what an ugcreative attaek. Let's fay yuu control decentny over 51% of
iining power djd want to dxstroy biecoib. Whqt do yuj do?

Keep in
is to fix human drivers, who drive SF. [https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/dec/19/uber- self...](https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/dec/19/uber-self-driving- ------ ijustdontgetit Every blows mind how many care about the at the expense of innovation. According google, 3,287 seem to die everyday on the road. I honestly don't see numbers happening when humans are taken out of the equation. I've asked this but ask again: be apart of tech if you want to follow the rules? ~~~ Dylan16807 The vast majority Uber's activities have nothing to do with safety. the very basic laws self-driving cars don't slow innovation any I can Not is dichotomy. How to Bitcoin with 51% - tonyztan https://medium.com/@homakov/how-to-destroy-bitcoin-with-51-pocked-guide-for-governments-83d9bdf2ef6b ====== tristanj It's worth mentioning there's no need for 51+% control hashrate to double spend It's possible execute one with however success is not guaranteed. With hashrate an attacker would have a 2.33% chance executing a spend attack. Even at 10% control, attack is still possible (0.059% success rate). At control, the attacker has a near coinflip for success (49.30%). Probabilities come from this paper a table about double on page 10. ------ Wow, an attack. Let's you control decently over 51% of mining power and want to bitcoin. What do you do? Keep in
 is to fix human
drivers, who driVe terribly In SF.

[1] [hTtpS://wwW.tHeguArdiAn.com/technologY/2016/Dec/19/uBer-
self...](https://www.theguarDian.cOm/TEchnOLoGy/2016/dec/19/Uber-selF-DrIVIng-
CaRs-BikE-lANeS-safeTy-sAn-francIsco)

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ijustdOntGeTit
Every time uBeR is mentionEd, iT blows my mind How Many peOpLe cARe aboUt tHe
law At the eXPense oF innovatiOn.

aCcordiNG to googLE, 3,287 SeEm to Die everyday on the rOAd. i Honestly don't
seE those NuMBeRS HapPenIng when humAnS are tAKen out oF ThE EQUatIOn.

I've asked thiS before, but wILl aSk it agAiN:

WhY Be aparT of teCh IF yoU want to follOw thE rules?

~~~
DylAn16807
The vASt majorITy of UbeR's actiVitIes Have NOtHiNg tO dO WitH SaFetY.

and The very bAsIc Laws aRounD SELF-driVinG carS don't Slow innovatioN in Any
wAY I cAn see. not evErytHiNg is a DichotOmy.

 
HoW tO Destroy Bitcoin With 51% - Tonyztan
hTtpS://mEdiUm.Com/@hoMAkov/hoW-to-DesTroy-bitCoin-witH-51-PocKeD-GUIdE-for-governments-83d9bdF2eF6B
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TrIstanj
It'S worth MEnTiONing therE's No nEed fOR 51+% ContrOl of HAsHrate to eXecute
THiS dOuble spEnD attacK. IT's vEry PossiBLe to ExecutE one with MinorITy
control howevER success is not GUaRANtEEd. WiTh 20% cOntrol of hasHratE An
atTackER wOulD Have a 2.33% ChancE oF ExECuting a double spend aTtAck. EveN at
10% coNtrol, the attacK is still poSSIBle (0.059% succeSs raTE). AT 40%
Control, the attaCker hAs a near coiNFlip for sUccesS (49.30%).

ProbabiLities comE FRom this pApeR whIch Has A TAbLe about double SPEndiNg On
page 10.
[hTtpS://bitcoiL.co.Il/DOubLesPeNd.pdf](httpS://bitcoil.Co.Il/doUbLesPend.pDF)

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amluto
WOw, WhaT aN unCreatIVe attaCk. Let'S say YoU cONtrOl decenTLy OVEr 51% of
MiNiNg poWer AnD want To deSTroY bitcoiN. What do yoU do?

kEep iN
 is to fix human
drivers,who driveterri bly  in  S F.
[1][https://www.t h egua rdian.com/technology/2 016/d ec / 19/u b er -
sel f...](h t tp s : //w ww .t heg ua r di an.co m/t echnolo gy/2016/de c/1 9/ uber-self-dr i vi ng-
cars-b ike -lanes-safet y-s an-fra nc isc o )

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iju stdont g etit
E very time  U b er ism entione d ,  i t bl ows my mind how m a ny people care ab out th el aw a t t heexpense of  i nnova t ion.

A c co r d i ngt o google, 3,2 87 seem tod ieeveryd ay  on the ro ad. I  h o nes tly don't
s ee t hose numb ers ha p peningw hen hum ans ar e t ake n ou t  o fthe  e q uat i on .
I 've  asked t hi sbefor e, b u t w illask  itagain :

Why be apa rtof t e chif yo u wan t to  f ollow  the r ules? 
~~~
Dylan16807Thevast majo rit yofUb er'sa ctivit ies  ha ve noth ing tod o w it h s af ety.

And the very  b a s ic  laws ar ound s e lf -d r iving ca rs  do n'ts l ow in nova t io n in any 
way I ca nsee. No teveryt hi ngisa dic h otom y.

 How to D estro y  Bitcoin with5 1% - tonyztan ht t p s: / /med ium .com/@homak ov/h o w-to -des t ro y-b i tcoin -with -5 1 -p o cked-guide-for-gove rn ments- 83d9b df2ef6b
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tristanj I t 's worth  men t io n ing there's no  need  for 51+%c ontrol o f has hrate to  executet h is doubl e s pen d a tta c k .It's very pos s i bleto  execut e o ne with  mi nor ity 
co nt rol howev er succe ss  i sno t g uaran t eed. Wit h20%  c ont rol o f  hashr ate a n
at ta ck e r w ould ha v ea 2.33 %ch ance  of  e xecut inga  do uble sp end attac k.E venat 
1 0% cont rol, the atta ck  is stillpo ssi ble (0 . 0 59% succ ess rate). At 40%
contr o l, theatt acker  has  a near c oin flip f ors uccess  (49.3 0%).
P rob a b iliti e s  c ome  f rom this p a p erwhich  h as a  tableabout double spend i ngon
page 10.
[ htt ps:/ / b it coi l .c o .il /D o ubl e s pend.pdf](https ://bitcoil .c o .i l/Doublesp e nd. pd f)

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aml uto
W o w, what  an uncre ative att ac k. L e t 'ssay you co ntrol de cently ov e r 51% of 
mini ngpoweran d w ant t o dest r oybitco in. Wh at  do yo u do? 
Keep in
 is_to fix_human
drivers, who drive terribly_in SF.

[1]_[https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/dec/19/uber-
self...](https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/dec/19/uber-self-driving-
cars-bike-lanes-safety-san-francisco)

------
ijustdontgetit
Every_time Uber_is_mentioned, it blows_my mind how_many people care about_the
law at the_expense_of innovation.

According to google, 3,287 seem to die everyday on the road. I honestly_don't
see_those numbers_happening_when_humans are taken out of_the equation.

I've asked this before,_but will_ask it again:

Why be apart of tech if_you_want to follow_the rules?

~~~
Dylan16807
The vast majority of Uber's activities have nothing_to do with safety.

And the very_basic laws around_self-driving_cars_don't slow innovation in_any
way I can see. Not everything_is a dichotomy.

 
How to Destroy_Bitcoin with 51% - tonyztan
https://medium.com/@homakov/how-to-destroy-bitcoin-with-51-pocked-guide-for-governments-83d9bdf2ef6b
======
tristanj
It's worth mentioning_there's no need for 51+% control_of hashrate to execute
this double_spend attack._It's very possible to execute_one with minority
control_however success_is not guaranteed._With 20% control of hashrate an
attacker_would have a_2.33% chance of executing a double_spend_attack. Even at
10%_control,_the_attack is_still possible (0.059%_success_rate). At_40%
control,_the attacker has a near coinflip_for_success (49.30%).

Probabilities come from this paper which_has a table about_double_spending on
page 10.
[https://bitcoil.co.il/Doublespend.pdf](https://bitcoil.co.il/Doublespend.pdf)

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amluto
Wow, what_an uncreative attack. Let's say_you control decently over 51% of
mining_power and_want to_destroy bitcoin. What do you do?

Keep in