 through employee empowerment etc) the "aggressive"
people (mostly men) in the workplace.

A concern my girlfriend highlighted is that this may increase unconscious bias
in the hiring process, for example:

Will men consider beautiful girls a risk to the workplace? If you have 90%
male employees working in your office and a beautiful girl who is definitely
qualified for the job but for the sake of argument not someone you "have to
have" for this role, are you introducing risk into the workplace by hiring her
knowing that people react stronger to attractive people? Said differently, is
there a possibility that her presence becomes a potential "distraction" in the
office.

Will progressive personalities be considered a risk to the workplace? Beyond
looks to personality types, if you are interviewing a candidate and through
rounds of interviews you discover they actively contribute their spare time
and energy toward socially progressive movements, rallies, campaigns etc, will
they be deemed higher risks as potential work-place agitators?

I never really thought about these things until my gf mentioned them but
apparently she and her girlfriends consider these factors when strategizing
about interviews ("don't look too good, etc").

Another anecdote: we have a handful of couples we're close to whose
girlfriends/wives insist that their CEO boyfriends/husbands never conduct
challenging performance based conversations with female employees without a
witness present. This was consistent with my girlfriend's experience in
banking where she found that her senior managers were comfortable having
performance reviews 1-1 (which in theory facilitates more candid dialogue and
deeper relationships) whereas all the girls had multiple managers present
reviews. On the margin, does this disadvantage women? I don't know but my gf
seemed to think so.

~~~
neo4sure
"Companies and their investors are going to look for ways to prevent these
issues from happening. Part of the solution will rest on coaching, monitoring
and policing (perhaps through employee empowerment etc) the "aggressive"
people (mostly men) in the workplace."

Just be a good person... It's really easy. I don't know why a guy would need
coaching on basic decency.

~~~
cflewis
Yeah, this is classic victim blaming. "Oh, she looked too pretty, I couldn't
help myself from touching her ass."

How
through employee empowerment etc) the " aggressive " 
 people (mostly men) in the workplace. 

 A business my girlfriend foreground is that this may increase unconscious bias 
 in the hiring process, for case: 

 Will man consider beautiful girls a hazard to the workplace? If you have 90% 
 male employees working in your agency and a beautiful girl who is definitely 
 dependent for the job but for the sake of argument not someone you " accept to 
 have " for this role, are you introducing risk into the workplace by hiring her 
 know that people react stronger to attractive people? read differently, is 
 there a possibility that her presence becomes a potential " beguilement " in the 
 office. 

 Will progressive personality be considered a risk to the workplace? Beyond 
 looks to personality character, if you are interviewing a candidate and through 
 rounds of interviews you discover they actively lend their spare time 
 and energy toward socially progressive movements, rallies, campaigns etc, will 
 they be deemed higher risks as potential employment - place agitators? 

 I never very think about these things until my gf mentioned them but 
 apparently she and her girlfriend consider these factors when strategizing 
 about interviews (" don't look excessively good, etc "). 

 Another anecdote: we have a handful of couples we're close to whose 
 girlfriends / wives insist that their chief executive officer boyfriends / husbands never conduct 
 challenging performance based conversations with female employee without a 
 spectator present. This was reproducible with my girlfriend's experience in 
 banking where she found that her senior managers were comfortable have 
 performance reviews 1 - 1 (which in theory facilitate more candid dialogue and 
 deeper relationships) whereas all the girlfriend had multiple coach present 
 reviews. On the gross profit, does this disadvantage woman? I don't know but my gf 
 look to think indeed. 

 ~~~ 
 neo4sure 
 " Companies and their investors are going to look for ways to prevent these 
 offspring from happening. Part of the solution will rest on coaching, monitoring 
 and policing (perhaps through employee empowerment etc) the " aggressive " 
 citizenry (mostly men) in the workplace. " 

 merely be a good person... It's really easy. I don't know why a guy would need 
 coaching on basic decency. 

 ~~~ 
 cflewis 
 Yeah, this is classical victim blaming. " Oh, she looked too pretty, I couldn't 
 help myself from touching her ass. " 

 How
 thgough employee empowermekt etc) the "aggressive"
pemple (mkstly mev) in the workplace.

A concern ly girldriend highlighted is ghat this may inceeast unconscious bias
in the mnring irocevw, for example:

Wlll men convider beautifun eixls a risk to the workplace? If you hwve 90%
malr fmployees workyng pn youd office and a beautiful girl who js defiiitely
qualified for the job but for the swke lf argument not soleone you "hqve ei
have" for thks role, art vou introduding risk into the workplace by hiriug her
knowibg thwj people reart strjnger to attvsctive people? Said differenbly, iv
thwre a possibility thav her presence becomgs a potendicl "distraction" in the
ifdice.

Whll [rogfwsskve pxrsknalitles be considsred a risk to the workplace? Btyoge
looks to peraonaliey types, if you are interviewing a candiddte and through
rounds of ibterviews you discovet they actyvely contribute their spare time
and energy towarg socmauly pvogrdwslve movements, rallies, campaigns etc, will
they fs cevmed higher risks as potentisl wptk-place agitaturs?

I nzbed really thought ahout thgse thungs untij my gf mentioned them but
apparwntly she anb hwr girlfriends condider these facjors wnen strategizing
about iutervisws ("don't lolk too goka, etc").

Another anezdone: wa have a handful of couplef we're clise co whose
eirlgriendf/wives inslst tmdt their CEO boyfrlends/kusbatds never fonduct
challenging performance uesed conversajiots fith femcle emiloyees without a
witness presgnt. This cas covsistent wpth my giclfriend's ex[erience in
batning where sie found ehat her senior oanagers were vomfortable having
pwrformance reviews 1-1 (wfjch in theory fceioitates more camdia dyapojue agg
deeper reladionrhiox) whefeas all thc gkrls had multiple managess pdesent
reviews. On tne margin, eoes thif disadvantagr women? I don't knoa but my gf
sermeq to think so.

~~~
neo4sure
"Companies znd their inyestors are gjing to look for ways to prevent these
issues from happeiing. Part of the solutiin will rest on coaehlng, monitoriig
and [olicing ([erhaps through empliyee empowerment ttc) the "aggressive"
peopls (mostny mej) in the workplace."

Just be a good person... It's really easy. I don't know why a guy would need
coadhinb on tafnc decegcy.

~~~
chlxwis
Yeah, this is blassic victim blaming. "Oh, she louked too pxetty, I couldn't
help myself frpm touching her ass."

How
through employee empowerment etc) the "aggressive" people in workplace. A my girlfriend highlighted unconscious in the hiring for example: Will consider beautiful girls a risk to workplace? If you have 90% male employees working in your office and a girl who is definitely qualified for the job but for the sake of not you to for this role, are you introducing risk into the workplace by hiring her knowing that people stronger to attractive people? Said differently, is there possibility that her presence a potential "distraction" in the Will personalities be a to workplace? Beyond looks personality types, if you are interviewing a candidate and through rounds of interviews you discover they actively their spare energy toward progressive rallies, etc, will they higher risks as potential work-place agitators? thought about these things until my gf mentioned but apparently and her girlfriends consider these factors strategizing about interviews ("don't look too good, etc"). anecdote: we have a handful of couples we're close to whose girlfriends/wives insist that their never conduct challenging performance conversations with female without witness This consistent with girlfriend's experience in banking where she found that her senior managers comfortable having performance reviews 1-1 (which in theory facilitates more and relationships) whereas all girls had multiple managers reviews. the margin, does this I know seemed think ~~~ neo4sure "Companies and investors are going to look ways to prevent these the solution will rest on coaching, monitoring and (perhaps through employee empowerment etc) the "aggressive" (mostly men) in the workplace." Just be a good person... It's really I don't a guy would need coaching on basic decency. cflewis Yeah, this is victim blaming. "Oh, she looked too pretty, I couldn't myself touching her How
 through employee empowermenT etc) the "aggRessiVe"
pEopLe (MostLy meN) in the workplacE.

a conCern my girlfriend highliGhted Is THat tHIs May inCrease uNCoNSCioUs BiAs
iN tHE hIring ProCess, for Example:

WilL meN cOnsider beautIFuL girls a risK to The workplace? if yOu have 90%
MaLe eMPloyeEs wOrkinG in youR Office And a beautIfUL girl wHO is defiNITeLy
quAlified for the job bUT fOR the sake of arguMent noT sOMeONE yoU "haVe to
have" foR tHis roLE, are you INtRODUciNG risk into the wOrkplace by hIRinG her
knOwIng THat peoPle reAcT StrOnger to attrActiVe people? SAid difFErently, IS
there a PossibIliTy tHat hER pReSenCe BEcoMEs A poTEntIal "distrAcTiOn" in tHe
ofFICE.

will ProGresSive pErsonalities bE coNsidERed A risk To the WorkPlAce? BeYond
loOks to PeRsonality types, iF you Are intervIewInG a cAnDidatE And thrOugH
roUnds of iNtervieWS yoU dISCOvEr they actively contRiBUTe Their spaRe time
ANd EnERgy towarD sOciAlly PROgresSive MOvEments, raLlies, cAMpAiGns etc, wIlL
they bE dEemEd hIgher RIsks As poteNtial worK-placE Agitators?

I neveR Really thought ABoUT ThESe thIngS until my gf mEntiONed tHem bUT
aPpaREntly She anD hER gIRlfriends consider thEsE factoRs wheN strategizing
About interVIEWs ("don't loOk toO GoOD, etc").

Another aneCdote: We have a hanDFul of couPles wE're close To whose
giRLFriends/wIveS inSisT thAT ThEir CEO boyfrieNDS/husBaNds neveR coNduct
chAllEngIng PerFoRmance basEd converSaTiOnS wIth FemalE EmployeeS wIthOuT a
wItnesS PresenT. This Was cOnSiSTenT with my GIrLFRienD's ExPeriEncE iN
bankIng wHEre She founD that her sEniOR manAgErS were coMfortable haviNg
PerformancE rEviEws 1-1 (whiCH In theory Facilitates more candid diALogue anD
deEper rElatIonships) wHerEas all The GIrls haD multiPle maNaGerS PResenT
REvIewS. ON the margin, DOEs tHis diSaDvanTage womEn? I don't know but my gf
SEemEd to think so.

~~~
neO4suRe
"CoMPAnIes ANd THeiR iNVesTORs are going to looK for ways to PrEVeNt these
issUEs fRoM happenIng. Part Of the SOlution Will rest oN coaching, MoNitoRINg
aNd policing (Perhaps tHrough empLOyee eMPoWermeNt eTc) the "aGgResSive"
pEople (mOStlY men) iN the woRkPlace."

JUst be A gOod persoN... It's really easy. I don't know Why a guY woulD neEd
coachinG on BAsiC decency.

~~~
cFlewIs
Yeah, this Is cLasSic viCtiM BlamiNg. "Oh, SHe LooKEd too PretTY, I couldn't
HElP mySELf From touchinG HER asS."

How
 through employee empowerm ent etc) t he "a ggr ess iv e"
p eopl e (mostly men) in t he workplace.

A conce rn my  g i rlfr i en d hig hlighte d  i s tha tth isma y  i ncrea seunconsc ious biasinth e hiring pro c es s, for exa mpl e:

Will men  co nsider  b eau t ifulgir ls arisk t o  the w orkplace?  I f  you h a ve 90%m a le  emp loyees working in yo u r office and a  beaut if u lg i rlwho  is defini te ly
qu a lifiedf or t h e j o b but for the  sake of ar g ume nt not  s ome o ne you  "hav et o
h ave" for th is r ole, areyou in t roducin g  risk i nto th e w ork plac e  b yhir in g  he r 
k now i ngthat peo pl ereact  str o n g e r to  at trac tivepeople? Saiddif fere n tly , isthere  a p os sibil ity th at he rpresence become s apotential  "d is tra ct ion"i n theoff ice .

Will  progre s siv ep e r so nalities be consid er e d  a  risk to  the w o rk pl a ce? Beyo nd 
lo okst o  pers onal i ty  types,if you ar eintervi ew ing aca ndi dat e and thro ugh
ro unds ofinter v iews you disco v er they activ e ly c on t ribu tetheir spare  tim e 
and  ene r gy  to w ard s ocial ly pr o gressive movements,  r allies , cam paigns etc, w ill
they b e d eemed hi gher ri s ks as potentia l wor k-place ag i tators?
I ne ver real ly though t about th ese  th ing s u n t il  my gf mentio n e d th em  but
ap par ently s heand  he r g ir lfriendsconsider  t he se  f act ors w h en strat eg izi ng 
ab out i n tervie ws (" don' tlo o k t oo good ,  e t c ").
A no ther  an ec dote:  weh ave  a hand ful of co upl e s we 'r eclose t o whose
girlf ri ends/wives  i nsi st tha t their CE O boyfriends/husbands n e ver con duc t
cha llen ging perf orm ance b ase d  conve rsatio ns wi th  fe m a le em p l oy ees  w ithout a
w i t nes s pre se nt.This wa s consistent withm y g irlfriend's e xpe rien c e  i n
b a nk i ngwh e res h e found that he r senior m an a ge rs were co m for ta ble hav ing
per forma n ce revi ews 1-1 ( which inth eory f aci litates mo re candi d dialogu e  andd ee per r ela tionsh ip s)where as all the  girl s hadmu ltiple  mana ge rs prese nt
reviews. On the marg in, do es th isdisadvant age wom en? I don 't k now but my  gf 
se emedtot hinkso.~~ ~
n e o4sur e
"C o mpanies a n dthe i r  i nvestors ar e g oin g toloo k  for w aysto prevent thesei ssues from hap peni n g . P art of t he  solution will  re st o n coachi ng , monitorin g
and po li c ing ( perhap s thro ugh emp l o ye e  empow erme ntetc) the"ag gr e ssive"pe op l e (mos tlyme n) inthe wo r kpla c e ."

Just be a go od pe r s on... It' s rea ll y easy. I do n't know w hy a guy wo uld ne ed
c oachi ng on b as ic dec enc y. 

~~~
cfle w is
Yeah,thisis clas si c vi cti m blam ing. " Oh, s he l oo ked  too pret t y ,I  c ou l dn' t
he lp my se lf f rom touch i ng her a ss. " 

How
 through_employee empowerment_etc) the "aggressive"
people (mostly_men) in_the_workplace.

A concern_my_girlfriend highlighted is_that this may_increase unconscious bias
in the_hiring process, for_example:

Will_men consider beautiful girls a risk to the workplace? If you have 90%
male employees_working_in your_office_and_a beautiful girl who is_definitely
qualified for the job but_for the_sake of argument not someone you "have to
have"_for_this role, are_you introducing risk into the workplace by hiring her
knowing_that people react stronger to attractive_people? Said differently,_is
there_a_possibility that her presence_becomes a potential "distraction" in the
office.

Will_progressive personalities be considered a risk_to the workplace? Beyond
looks to personality types,_if you are interviewing a candidate_and through
rounds of interviews you_discover they_actively contribute their spare time
and_energy toward socially_progressive movements,_rallies, campaigns etc,_will
they be deemed higher risks as_potential work-place agitators?

I_never really thought about these things_until_my gf mentioned_them_but
apparently_she and_her girlfriends consider_these_factors when_strategizing
about_interviews ("don't look too good, etc").

Another_anecdote:_we have a handful of couples we're_close to whose
girlfriends/wives insist_that_their CEO boyfriends/husbands never_conduct
challenging performance based conversations with_female employees without a
witness present. This_was consistent_with my_girlfriend's experience in
banking where she found that her senior managers were_comfortable having
performance reviews 1-1 (which in_theory facilitates more candid_dialogue and
deeper_relationships)_whereas all the_girls_had multiple_managers present
reviews. On the margin, does this_disadvantage women?_I don't know but my gf
seemed_to think so.

~~~
neo4sure
"Companies and_their_investors are going to look for_ways to prevent these
issues from happening._Part of the solution will_rest_on_coaching, monitoring
and policing (perhaps through_employee empowerment etc) the "aggressive"
people (mostly_men) in the_workplace."

Just be a good person... It's really_easy._I don't know why a guy_would_need
coaching on basic decency.

~~~
cflewis
Yeah, this is_classic_victim_blaming. "Oh, she looked too_pretty, I couldn't
help myself from touching_her ass."

How