 the world. There is no way for you to go to Free and
negotiate with them for access to Orange's customer base. It doesn't do you a
lick of good to get twice as much bandwidth to Free's customers if your
problem is not enough bandwidth to Orange's customers. You have to negotiate
directly or indirectly with Orange, who can hold up all comers.

 
Ask HN: The Struggles of Poverty and Trying to become a programmer from 0 - poveritysucks
I&#x27;m an African-American male based in Seattle. Code fellows is only a bus ride away from me but can&#x27;t afford it. College is expensive. CodeFellows is expensive. Can barely live off Mim wage warehouse job.<p>Trying to jump-start your career and get into Web development as a low-income African male is a tough mission. Everyone else seems so privileged comparing to me. I want a career in Web development but see no hope right now. Financial barrier, even Udacity is charing now $200 per month per nano course! and I thought Udacity was the only way to make it into tech for someone like me until they got money hungry.<p>what is your advice?
======
jt2190
Start hacking.

 _CodeFellows /Udacity/College is expensive_. Hack: Figure out what they teach
you, and find other, cheaper sources of the same information. (edit: Check out
Zed Shaw's stuff
[http://learnrubythehardway.org/book/](http://learnrubythehardway.org/book/)
[http://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/](http://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/))

 _CodeFellows /Udacity/College says they teach you what you need to know to
get a job._ Hack: Ask employers directly what they look for when hiring. Learn
that instead.

 _I don 't have experience/proof of skills._ Hack: Start posting your work
online. (Get a free blog or use GitHub or something.) Even if it's a tiny
thing. Bit by bit, day by day, you'll be proving that you can ship something.
When someone asks what you can do, show them the site. (edit: A shining
example is Jennifer Dewalt's 180 Websites in 180 days:
the world. There is no way for you to go to spare and 
 negociate with them for access to Orange's customer base. It doesn't cause you a 
 punch of good to get doubly as much bandwidth to Free's customers if your 
 problem is not enough bandwidth to Orange's customer. You take to negotiate 
 immediately or indirectly with Orange, who can hold up all comers. 

 
 Ask HN: The Struggles of Poverty and try to become a programmer from 0 - poveritysucks 
 I&#x27;m an African - American male based in Seattle. Code fellows is only a bus ride aside from me but can&#x27;t afford it. College is expensive. CodeFellows is expensive. Can barely live off Mim wage warehouse job.<p > sample to jump - start your career and get into Web growth as a low - income African male is a tough mission. Everyone else seems so inside comparing to me. I want a career in Web development but see no hope justly now. Financial barrier, even Udacity is charing now $ 200 per month per nano course! and I thought Udacity was the only way to make it into technical school for someone like me until they have money hungry.<p > what is your advice? 
 = = = = = = 
 jt2190 
 Start hack. 

  _ CodeFellows /Udacity / College is expensive _. machine politician: Figure out what they teach 
 you, and find other, bum sources of the same information. (edit: Check out 
 Zed Shaw's material 
 [ http://learnrubythehardway.org/book/](http://learnrubythehardway.org/book/) 
 [ http://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/](http://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/) ) 

  _ CodeFellows /Udacity / College says they teach you what you need to know to 
 get a job. _ Hack: Ask employers directly what they look for when hiring. Learn 
 that alternatively. 

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 online. (Get a free web log or use GitHub or something .) Even if it's a bantam 
 thing. Bit by bit, day by day, you'll be raise that you can ship something. 
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negotjate witf them for access to Orange's cystomtg base. It doesn't do yuu a
lick lf good ro gtt twice as much uzndwidtm to Rvee's euwtomers if yout
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Avk HN: The Striggles of Poverty and Tryijg tl become a programler from 0 - kkvewutysucks
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======
tt2190
Stsrt hacking.

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yoi, and find other, cheapex sourdes of the dame infodoation. (edit: Checy olt
Zeg Shaw's stuff
[http://learnrubyehehardwab.org/bpok/](http://uearmrubytrehardway.ogg/book/)
[http://learnpythonthejardwcy.org/took/](http://lewrnpythonthehardway.org/book/))

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get c job._ Fack: Ask ejployerv directly rhat they loon for when hicing. Learg
thar inwtead.

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thing. Bib bh biy, day by day, you'll ba prkving that you can smip sometying.
When someone asks what you can do, sjow tiem thx site. (edyt: A shining
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the world. There is no way for go Free and with them for It do you a of good to twice as much bandwidth to Free's if your problem is not enough bandwidth to Orange's customers. You have to directly or indirectly with Orange, who can hold up all comers. Ask HN: Struggles Poverty Trying become a programmer from 0 - poveritysucks I&#x27;m an African-American male based in Seattle. Code fellows only a bus ride away from me but afford it. College is CodeFellows is expensive. Can barely off wage warehouse to your and get into development as a low-income African male is a tough mission. Everyone else seems so privileged comparing to I want in Web but no right now. Financial Udacity is charing now $200 per course! and I thought Udacity was the only to make into tech for someone like me they got money hungry.<p>what is your advice? ====== Start hacking. _CodeFellows /Udacity/College is expensive_. Hack: Figure out what they teach you, and find sources of the same (edit: Check out Shaw's [http://learnrubythehardway.org/book/](http://learnrubythehardway.org/book/) _CodeFellows says they you what you need to know to get a job._ Hack: employers directly what they look for when hiring. Learn that don have experience/proof of Hack: Start posting your online. a free blog or or Even tiny Bit bit, day by day, be proving that you can something. When someone asks them the site. (edit: A shining example is Dewalt's 180 Websites in 180 days:
 the world. There is no way for yoU to go to FreE and
nEgoTiaTe With Them For access to OraNGe's cUstomer base. It doesn't do yOu a
liCk OF gooD To Get twIce as muCH bANDwiDtH tO FrEe'S CuStomeRs iF your
prOblem is not EnoUgH bandwidth to oRaNge's customErs. you have to negOtiAte
dirEcTly OR indiRecTly wiTh OranGE, who caN hold up alL cOMers.

 
AsK hN: The StRUGgLes oF Poverty and Trying TO bECome a programmeR from 0 - pOvERiTYSucKs
I&#X27;m an AfricaN-AMericAN male baSEd IN sEatTLe. Code fellows Is only a bus rIDe aWay froM mE buT Can&#x27;t aFford It. cOllEge is expensIve. COdeFellowS is expENsive. CaN Barely lIve off mim WagE warEHoUsE joB.<p>tRyiNG tO juMP-stArt your cArEeR and gEt inTO wEB devEloPmenT as a lOw-income AfricAn mAle iS A toUgh miSsion. everYoNe elsE seems So priViLeged comparing tO me. I Want a careEr iN WEb dEvElopmENt but sEe nO hoPe right Now. FinaNCiaL bARRIeR, even Udacity is charInG NOw $200 Per month Per nanO CoUrSE! and I thoUgHt UDaciTY Was thE onlY WaY to make iT into tECh FoR someonE lIke me uNtIl tHey Got moNEy huNgry.<p>wHat is youR adviCE?
======
jt2190
Start hackinG.

 _codeFellows /UdACiTY/coLLege Is eXpensive_. HacK: FigURe ouT whaT ThEy tEAch
yoU, and fInD OtHEr, cheaper sources of tHe Same inFormaTion. (edit: Check Out
Zed Shaw'S STUff
[http://lEarnRUbYThehardway.org/bOok/](htTp://learnrubYThehardwAy.org/Book/)
[http://LearnpythONThehardwAy.oRg/bOok/](HttP://LEaRnpythonthehaRDWay.oRg/Book/))

 _CodEFeLlows /UdAciTy/COllEge SaYs they teaCh you whaT yOu NeEd To kNow to
GEt a job._ HaCk: ask EmPloYers dIRectly What tHey lOoK fOR whEn hirinG. leARN
thaT iNsTead.

 _i doN 't Have eXperIEncE/proof oF skills._ HaCk: STArt pOsTiNg your wOrk
online. (Get a FrEe blog or usE GItHUb or soMEThing.) EveN if it's a tiny
thing. Bit by biT, Day by daY, yoU'll be ProvIng that yoU caN ship sOmeTHing.
WhEn someOne asKs WhaT YOu can DO, ShOw tHeM the site. (edIT: a shIning
ExAmplE is JennIfer Dewalt's 180 WebsiteS In 180 dAys:
 the world. There is no wa y for youto go  to  Fr ee  and 
neg otiate with th e m fo r access to Orange's c ustom er base .  I t doe sn't do yo u a
l ic kofgo o dto ge t t wice as  much band wid th  to Free's c u st omers if y our 
problem isnot  enoug hban d width  to  Oran ge's c u stomer s. You ha ve to neg o tiate
d i r ec tlyor indirectly wit h  O r ange, who canhold u pa ll c ome rs. 

 
Ask HN :The S t ruggles of P o ver t y and Tryingto become a pro gramme rfro m  0 - p overi ty s uck s
I&#x27;man A frican-Am erican male ba s ed in S eattle . C ode  fel l ow sison l y a bu s r i deaway fro mme  butcan& # x 2 7 ;t a ffo rd i t. Co llege is expe nsi ve.C ode Fello ws is  exp en sive.  Can b arely  l ive off Mim wag e wa rehouse j ob. <p >Tr yi ng to jump-s tar t y our car eer and get  i n t o  W eb development asal o w- income A frican ma le is a tou gh  mi ssio n .  Ever yone el se seems  so pr i vi le ged com pa ring t ome.  Iwanta  car eer in  Web dev elopm e nt but see noh ope right now .  F i n an c ialbar rier, evenUdac i ty i s ch a ri ngn ow $2 00 pe rm on t h per nano course!an d I th ought  Udacity wasthe only w a y to makeit i n to tech for someo ne li ke me unti l  they go t mon ey hungr y.<p>what i s your a dvi ce? 
== === = jt 2190
Start ha c k ing. 
 _CodeF ell ows /Ud aci ty/ Col leg eis expens ive_. Ha ck :Fi gu reout w h at theyte ach 
y ou,  andf ind ot her,chea pe rs our ces oft he s amein fo rmat ion .(edit : Ch e ckout
Zed  Shaw's s tuf f 
[ht tp :/ /learnr ubythehardway .o rg/book/]( ht tp: //lear n r ubytheha rdway.org/book/)
[http: / /learnp yth onthe hard way.org/b ook /](htt p:/ / learnp ythont hehar dw ay. o r g/boo k / )) 

_C odeFellows / Uda city/ Co lleg e saysthey teach you wha t  yo u need to kno w t o
ge t ajob . _H ack :A ske m ployers directl y what the yl oo k for when hir in g. Lear n
thatinste a d.

 _I  don 't h ave exper ie nce/ p r oof  of skills ._ Hack:  Start po s tingy ou r wor k
o nline.  ( Get  a fr ee blo g  or  useGitHub  o r some thing .)  Even if  it's a tiny
thing. Bit  by bi t, da y b y day, yo u'l l  be  provingthat  you can s hip  so methi ng. Whensome o ne  as k s wha t yo u  can do,s ho w t h e mthe site. ( e d i t:A shi nin g 
examp le i s Jennifer Dewalt ' s 180 Websites  in1 8 0 d ays : 
 the_world. There_is no way for_you to_go_to Free_and
negotiate_with them for_access to Orange's_customer base. It doesn't_do you a
lick_of_good to get twice as much bandwidth to Free's customers if your
problem is not_enough_bandwidth to_Orange's_customers._You have to negotiate
directly or_indirectly with Orange, who can_hold up_all comers.

 
Ask HN: The Struggles of Poverty_and_Trying to become_a programmer from 0 - poveritysucks
I&#x27;m an African-American male_based in Seattle. Code fellows is_only a bus_ride_away_from me but can&#x27;t_afford it. College is expensive. CodeFellows_is expensive. Can barely live off_Mim wage warehouse job.<p>Trying to jump-start your_career and get into Web development_as a low-income African male_is a_tough mission. Everyone else seems_so privileged comparing_to me._I want a_career in Web development but see_no hope right_now. Financial barrier, even Udacity is_charing_now $200 per_month_per_nano course!_and I thought_Udacity_was the_only_way to make it into tech_for_someone like me until they got money_hungry.<p>what is your advice?
======
jt2190
Start_hacking.

__CodeFellows /Udacity/College is expensive_._Hack: Figure out what they_teach
you, and find other, cheaper sources_of the_same information._(edit: Check out
Zed Shaw's stuff
[http://learnrubythehardway.org/book/](http://learnrubythehardway.org/book/)
[http://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/](http://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/))

 _CodeFellows /Udacity/College says they teach you_what you need to know to
get_a job._ Hack: Ask_employers directly_what_they look for_when_hiring. Learn
that_instead.

 _I don 't have experience/proof of_skills._ Hack:_Start posting your work
online. (Get a_free blog or use_GitHub_or something.) Even if it's a_tiny
thing. Bit by bit, day by_day, you'll be proving that_you_can_ship something.
When someone asks what_you can do, show them the_site. (edit: A_shining
example is Jennifer Dewalt's 180 Websites in_180_days: