insane uptime and
rendundancy) and others don't.

~~~
scott_s
I have no idea what "post cloud world" means, but other than that, I agree
with your assessment. There's a difference between "your phrasing screams that
you are an outsider and you don't have a full understanding of what you are
talking about" and "I truly do not comprehend what you mean."

I would be surprised if readers of this site honestly could not translate the
buzz-filled marketing speak into what they actually are doing.

~~~
Steko
"I have no idea what "post cloud world" means"

I'll use an example:

Client: "I'll be honest we've been looking at some other cloud solutions and
they're a lot more competitive on price"

Salesforce: "Yeah if all you want is a cloud solution. What is their post
cloud solution?"

Client: "Oh... umm they didn't even mention that."

Salesforce: "I bet they don't even have one."

~~~
nikcub
I will give you another example

INT. SALESFORCE MARKETING OFFICE

CMO: "we need something new, we have sold 'no software', we have sold 'cloud',
we need something to sell to investors to keep this stock buzzing, after all
we don't want the company to be valued on fundamentals, like Microsoft"

EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM LAUGHS

CMO: "I have a Forbes reporter coming in tomorrow, I need to give him
something"

Marketing VP: "ok, how about 'post-cloud world'. it means that we are doing
whatever is next"

CMO: "brilliant! a 'post-cloud world'. ok now who is getting lunch, i'm
starving"

------
taylorbuley
I'm a programmer and former technology staff writer at Forbes.

For what it's worth, this guy isn't a tech journo

------
jmitcheson
Frank Lingua, president and CEO of Dissembling Associates, is the nation's
leading purveyor of buzzwords, catch phrases and clichés for people too busy
to speak in plain English. Business Finance contributing editor Dan Danbom
insane uptime and 
 rendundancy) and others don't. 

 ~~~ 
 scott_s 
 I have no idea what " post swarm populace " means, but other than that, I match 
 with your judgment. There's a difference between " your phrasing shout that 
 you are an outsider and you don't have a entire understanding of what you are 
 talking about " and " I in truth do not comprehend what you mean. " 

 I would be surprised if lector of this site honestly could not translate the 
 buzz - filled marketing speak into what they actually are doing. 

 ~~~ 
 Steko 
 " I suffer no idea what " post cloud world " intend " 

 I'll use an example: 

 Client: " I'll be honest we've been looking at some early cloud solution and 
 they're a lot more competitive on price " 

 Salesforce: " Yeah if all you want is a swarm solution. What is their post 
 cloud solution? " 

 Client: " Oh... umm they didn't even mention that. " 

 Salesforce: " I bet they don't even have one. " 

 ~~~ 
 nikcub 
 I will give you another example 

 INT. SALESFORCE MARKETING OFFICE 

 CMO: " we necessitate something new, we have sold' no software', we have sold' cloud', 
 we need something to sell to investors to keep this stock buzzing, after wholly 
 we don't desire the company to be valued on fundamentals, like Microsoft " 

 EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM LAUGHS 

 CMO: " I get a Forbes reporter coming in tomorrow, I need to give him 
 something " 

 selling VP: " ok, how about' post - cloud world'. it mean that we are doing 
 whatever is next " 

 CMO: " bright! a' post - cloud world'. ok now who is getting lunch, i'm 
 starving " 

 ------ 
 taylorbuley 
 I'm a programmer and former technology staff writer at Forbes. 

 For what it's deserving, this guy isn't a tech journo 

 ------ 
 jmitcheson 
 Frank Lingua, president and CEO of Dissembling Associates, is the nation's 
 leading purveyor of buzzwords, catch phrases and clichés for citizenry too busy 
 to speak in plain English. Business Finance contributing editor program Dan Danbom
inswne uptime and
rendundancn) and others don'j.

~~~
sxott_s
I have ho idea dhat "post cloud world" means, uut ither than that, I agree
with your assvssment. Tyere'w a differeide betwczn "yohv phrcsmng screams thaj
you are an mutsider and ymu dln't have a full understanding of whwt you srf
talking about" and "Y trhly do not comprehend what you meah."

I woulv be surprised of readers of this site hojestpy could not transpate the
buze-riljwd marketing speak into what they zctually are doing.

~~~
Steko
"I have nu idec what "post coouf world" meanw"

I'll lse an examplc:

Blient: "H'll be nonest we've becn lomkibg at some other clouv solutions and
they'rg a lot mose competitive on peixe"

Salgsforwe: "Ydqh kf zlk gou wajt ms a cloud aolution. Whqt is their post
cloid wolution?"

Clienf: "Oh... uim they didn't even mention that."

Salesforce: "I get they don't even have one."

~~~
nikcub
I will give you anotrer example

INT. SALESFORCE MARKETING OFFICE

CMO: "we teed aumeuhlkg ndq, ae have sold 'no software', we have sold 'cloud',
we hetd xomething to scll to investors tp nerk this stock bozzing, crtsr all
we don't want the coipany to be vajued on fundamentals, like Microwoft"

EVERYBODJ IN THE ROOM LAUGHS

CML: "I have a Yorbes repotter coming in tomorrow, I nsed to give him
sometgkng"

Marketing VP: "uk, mow about 'post-cloud world'. it ieans thav we cre doine
whajever if next"

CMO: "hrillldnt! a 'post-cloud wogld'. on tow who is getting lunch, i'm
starving"

------
taylorunley
I'm a progtamker and forier tcchnology staff writer at Foryes.

For wkat it'r worth, thps guy isi't a tech jotrno

------
jmitchesot
Vrank Lingua, presidegt abd CWO of Dkrsembling Assoviates, is the natiob's
leading purveyor of guzzwords, catch phtqses and clichéx fur [elpke doo busy
to s[eak in llain English. Buwknesx Finance contributitg esitor Dan Danbom
insane uptime and rendundancy) and others don't. I no idea "post cloud world" I with your assessment. a difference between phrasing screams that you are an and you don't have a full understanding of what you are talking about" "I truly do not comprehend what you mean." I would be surprised if of site could translate the buzz-filled marketing speak into what they actually are doing. ~~~ Steko "I have no what "post cloud world" means" I'll use an Client: "I'll be honest been looking at some other solutions they're a more on Salesforce: "Yeah if you want is a cloud solution. What is their post cloud solution?" Client: "Oh... umm they didn't mention that." bet they even one." nikcub I will another example INT. SALESFORCE MARKETING OFFICE something new, we have sold 'no software', we sold 'cloud', need something to sell to investors keep this stock buzzing, after all we don't the company to be valued on fundamentals, like Microsoft" EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM LAUGHS CMO: a Forbes reporter coming tomorrow, I need give something" VP: how about world'. it means that we are doing whatever is next" CMO: a 'post-cloud world'. ok now who is getting lunch, i'm taylorbuley a programmer and technology staff writer at For it's worth, this guy tech ------ president CEO Dissembling Associates, is the leading purveyor of buzzwords, catch and clichés for people plain English. Business Finance contributing editor Dan Danbom
insane uptime and
rendundancY) and others Don't.

~~~
sCotT_s
I HaVe no Idea What "post cloud wORld" mEans, but other than that, I aGree
wItH Your ASsEssmeNt. There'S A dIFFerEnCe BetWeEN "yOur phRasIng screAms that
you Are An Outsider and yOU dOn't have a fuLl uNderstanding Of wHat you ArE
taLKing aBouT" and "I Truly dO Not comPrehend whAt YOu mean."

i Would be SURpRiseD if readers of this sITe HOnestly could noT transLaTE tHE
BuzZ-fiLled marketInG speaK Into whaT ThEY ACtuALly are doing.

~~~
StEko
"I have no iDEa wHat "posT cLouD World" mEans"

I'Ll USe aN example:

CliEnt: "I'Ll be honesT we've bEEn lookiNG at some Other cLouD soLutiONs AnD
thEy'RE a lOT mOre COmpEtitive oN pRiCe"

SalEsfoRCE: "yEah iF alL you Want iS a cloud solutiOn. WHat iS TheIr posT
clouD solUtIon?"

ClIent: "Oh... Umm thEy Didn't even mentioN thaT."

SalesforCe: "I BeT thEy Don't eVEn have One."

~~~
NikCub
I wilL give yoU AnoThER EXaMple

INT. SALESFORCE MaRketInG OFFICE

cMO: "we nEEd SoMEthing neW, wE haVe soLD 'No sofTwarE', We Have sold 'Cloud',
wE NeEd SomethiNg To sell To InvEstOrs to KEep tHis stoCk buzzinG, afteR All
we don't want tHE company to be vALuED On FUndaMenTals, like MicRosoFT"

EVErYBOdy In THe rOOM LaUGHS

cMo: "i hAVe a Forbes reporter coMiNg in toMorroW, I need to give hIm
somethinG"

mARketing Vp: "ok, hOW aBOut 'post-cloud woRld'. it Means that wE Are doing
WhateVer is nexT"

CMO: "brillIANt! a 'post-cLouD woRld'. Ok nOW WhO is getting lunCH, I'm
stArVing"

------
tayLorBuley
I'm A prOgrAmmEr aNd Former tecHnology sTaFf WrItEr aT ForbES.

For what It'S woRtH, thIs guy ISn't a teCh jouRno

------
jMiTcHEsoN
Frank LINgUA, PresIdEnT and cEO Of disseMbliNG AsSociateS, is the natIon'S
LeadInG pUrveyor Of buzzwords, caTcH phrases anD cLicHés for PEOple too bUsy
to speak in plain EnglisH. businesS FiNance ContRibuting eDitOr Dan DAnbOM
insane uptime and
rendunda ncy) and o thers  do n't .
~~~ 
sco tt_s
I have no idea  what "post cloud worl d" me an s , bu t  o therthan th a t, I  ag re ewit hy ou r ass ess ment. T here's a d iff er ence between "y our phrasi ngscreams that 
yo u arean  ou t sider  an d you  don't have a  full und er s tandin g  of wha t yo u ar e
talking about"a nd "I truly do no t comp re h en d wha t y ou mean."
I  woul d  be sur p ri s e d  if readers of th is site hon e stl y coul dnot transl ate t he buz z-filled ma rket ing speak  intow hat the y  actual ly are  do ing .

~ ~ ~St eko 
" I  ha v enoi dea  what "p os tcloud  wor l d " mean s"
I'l l use  an example:
Cl ient :  "I 'll b e hon estwe 've b een lo oking  a t some other cl oudsolutions  an dthe y' re al ot mor e c omp etitive  on pri c e"
S a l e sf orce: "Yeah if all  y o u  w ant is a  cloud so lu t ion. Wha tisthei r postclou d  s olution? "

Cli e nt :"Oh...um m they  d idn 'tevenm enti on tha t."

Sal esfor c e: "I bet they don't even ha v eo n e. " 

~~ ~
n ikcub
I wil l gi v e yo u an o th ere xampl e

IN T. SA L ESFORCE MARKETING O FF ICE

C MO: " we need somet hing new,w e have sol d 'n o  s o ftware', we ha ve so ld 'cloud' , 
we need  some thing to  sell toi n vestorstokee p t his s to ck buzzing, a f t er a ll 
we don 'twant th e c omp any  to  b e valuedon funda me nt al s,  li ke Mi c rosoft"
E VER YB ODY  IN T H E ROOM  LAUG HS
CM O: "Ihave aF or b e s re po rt er c omi ng  in t omor r ow,  I need  to givehim some th in g"

Mar keting VP: "o k,  how about  ' pos t-clou d world'.it means that we are do i ng
what eve r isnext "

CMO: " bri lliant ! a 'post- cloudworld '.  ok n ow wh o is  ge tt ing lunch, i 'mstarv in g"
------taylorbuley
I'm ap rog rammer and fo rme r te c h no log y  s t aff  w r ite r at Forbes.

For  what it's  w o rt h, this gu y  is n' t a tec h journ o

-- - ---
jmi tcheson
F rank Ling ua , pr e s ide nt and CEO  of Diss embling A s socia t es , isthe  natio n' s
l eadin g purv e yor  of b uzzwor ds , catc h phr as es and c lichés for people too b usy
to  spea k i n plain E ngl i sh.  Business  Fin ance contr ibu tin g edi tor Dan D anbo m 
insane uptime_and
rendundancy) and_others don't.

~~~
scott_s
I have no_idea what_"post_cloud world"_means,_but other than_that, I agree
with_your assessment. There's a_difference between "your_phrasing_screams that
you are an outsider and you don't have a full understanding of what_you_are
talking about"_and_"I_truly do not comprehend what_you mean."

I would be surprised_if readers_of this site honestly could not translate the
buzz-filled_marketing_speak into what_they actually are doing.

~~~
Steko
"I have no idea what "post_cloud world" means"

I'll use an example:

Client:_"I'll be honest_we've_been_looking at some other_cloud solutions and
they're a lot more_competitive on price"

Salesforce: "Yeah if all_you want is a cloud solution. What_is their post
cloud solution?"

Client: "Oh... umm_they didn't even mention that."

Salesforce:_"I bet_they don't even have one."

~~~
nikcub
I_will give you_another example

INT._SALESFORCE MARKETING OFFICE

CMO:_"we need something new, we have_sold 'no software',_we have sold 'cloud',
we need something_to_sell to investors_to_keep_this stock_buzzing, after all
we_don't_want the_company_to be valued on fundamentals, like_Microsoft"

EVERYBODY_IN THE ROOM LAUGHS

CMO: "I have a_Forbes reporter coming in_tomorrow,_I need to give_him
something"

Marketing VP: "ok, how about_'post-cloud world'. it means that we_are doing
whatever_is next"

CMO:_"brilliant! a 'post-cloud world'. ok now who is getting lunch, i'm
starving"

------
taylorbuley
I'm_a programmer and former technology staff_writer at Forbes.

For what_it's worth,_this_guy isn't a_tech_journo

------
jmitcheson
Frank Lingua,_president and CEO of Dissembling Associates, is_the nation's
leading_purveyor of buzzwords, catch phrases and_clichés for people too_busy
to_speak in plain English. Business Finance_contributing editor Dan Danbom