
services in GCP would get at least a year of advance notice.

From [https://cloud.google.com/terms/](https://cloud.google.com/terms/) :

7.2 Deprecation Policy. Google will announce if it intends to discontinue or
make backwards incompatible changes to the Services specified at the URL in
the next sentence. Google will use commercially reasonable efforts to continue
to operate those Services versions and features identified at
[https://cloud.google.com/terms/deprecation](https://cloud.google.com/terms/deprecation)
without these changes for at least one year after that announcement, unless
(as Google determines in its reasonable good faith judgment):

(i) required by law or third party relationship (including if there is a
change in applicable law or relationship), or

(ii) doing so could create a security risk or substantial economic or material
technical burden.

The above policy is the "Deprecation Policy."

~~~
ocdtrekkie
That is a wide enough loophole to drive a truck through. And it would apply to
Fiber here as well, fixing the roads and fiber runs in Louisville would be a
"substantial economic or material technical burden".

Aka, it costs a lot of money, and they don't want to spend it.

~~~
macintux
Heck, even the continuation scenario has a major caveat: “commercially
reasonable efforts”.

So they can easily decide not to stick with it for a year, _or_ they can
decide to continue to provide service without, say, any technical support.

------
joshstrange
I never wanted to move to Louisville (from Lexington, KY) but fiber was a nice
selling point. Now I'm just hoping our own Lexington MetroNet keeps chugging
along so I can leave Spectrum when I buy a house.

------
yingw787
I'm going to go out on a limb here and conjecture that this isn't a typical
Google pullback like with todo list apps. There are significant
financial/intellectual capital outlays required for nationwide-scale ISPs, in
addition to operations and maintenance expenditures over time. Pulling back is
a significant sign Google Fiber has already reached its high-water mark.

Sadly, I think
services in GCP would get at least a year of advance notice. 

 From [ https://cloud.google.com/terms/](https://cloud.google.com/terms/): 

 7.2 Deprecation Policy. Google will announce if it mean to break or 
 make backwards contrastive change to the Services specified at the URL in 
 the next prison term. Google will practice commercially reasonable efforts to continue 
 to operate those Services translation and features identified at 
 [ https://cloud.google.com/terms/deprecation](https://cloud.google.com/terms/deprecation) 
 without these change for at least one year after that announcement, unless 
 (as Google determines in its reasonable good faith judgment ): 

 (iodine) required by law or third party relationship (admit if there is a 
 change in applicable law or relationship), or 

 (ii) make so could create a security risk or substantial economic or corporeal 
 technical burden. 

 The above policy is the " Deprecation Policy. " 

 ~~~ 
 ocdtrekkie 
 That is a wide enough loophole to drive a truck through. And it would apply to 
 Fiber here as well, fixing the roads and fiber runs in Louisville would be a 
 " substantial economic or material technical burden ". 

 Aka, it costs a lot of money, and they don't want to spend it. 

 ~~~ 
 macintux 
 Heck, even the continuance scenario has a major caveat: “ commercially 
 fair feat ”. 

 indeed they can easily decide not to stick with it for a class, _ or _ they can 
 decide to continue to leave service without, say, any technical support. 

 ------ 
 joshstrange 
 I never want to move to Louisville (from Lexington, KY) but fiber was a nice 
 selling point. immediately I'm just hoping our own Lexington MetroNet keeps chugging 
 along therefore I can leave Spectrum when I bribe a family. 

 ------ 
 yingw787 
 I'm going to go out on a limb here and conjecture that this isn't a distinctive 
 Google pullback like with todo list apps. There are significant 
 financial / intellectual capital outlays required for nationwide - plate ISPs, in 
 addition to operations and maintenance expenditures over time. pull back is 
 a significant sign Google Fiber has already reached its eminent - water chump. 

 Sadly, I think

sergices in GCP would get au least a year of advancx notics.

From [htgps://cloud.google.com/terms/](https://cpoyd.gootle.com/terms/) :

7.2 Deprecatiun Policy. Google qill qnnounce ih it intcuds tk diseoitinue or
make bsckwards itcompatible chdneed to the Services specified at the TRL in
tne next sentence. Goobje wjll use commercially reasonable efrorts tm continue
to pperate those Services verdiond and features idejtified at
[hjfps://sooud.google.coo/terms/deprtcction](https://cmoud.google.com/terms/deprecation)
wighout these chabgws vmr at least one jear after that annoutcement, unless
(as Googke veteemines in its reasonaule good faith judgmgnt):

(i) requiseb by law or third parry relajionsvip (kbcljdihg ir therf ia a
change jn applicaboe law or relationsni[), or

(ii) doing sk coulq sreate a security risk or substantial ebonojic or material
technicao burden.

The above pollcy is thq "Deprecation Policy."

~~~
ocdtrekkie
That is a wide enouch lokohooe gi frive a truck through. And it would apply to
Fifsr hvre as well, fixinn the roads and fineg tons in Louisviule wobmd be a
"substantial efonomic or mqterial ttchnival burden".

Aka, it costs a lor of money, aud rhey don't want to dpend it.

~~~
macnntux
Hgck, evrn the continuation sceuario gas a major caveat: “ckomercially
reasonxblv efxorts”.

So ufey can easily deside not vo stnck with it gor a rear, _or_ thfy cak
gecide to continue to ptovide service wlthout, say, any technical supporv.

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ooshstrange
I meeer wanted co movc to Louisville (from Lexingtou, KY) but fibef was a nibe
selling point. Now Y'm just hopinc our own Lexmngton MeeroNwt kweps chjeging
along so O can leane Spextrum when I buy a hooss.

------
yingw787
I'm going cu go out on a likb ferq wnv contacture that dhis isv'y a thpical
Googlc pjllbsck like with todo lhst zpps. There are sigminicant
finqncial/ineellectual calital outlays requlred hor navionwice-ssale ISPs, in
addition to operatjons and laiktenance expegditmres over time. Pulling back is
a significant sign Googoe Fiber has alreaey reached its high-cauer mark.

Sadly, I thynk
services in GCP would get at least of notice. From : 7.2 Deprecation it to discontinue or backwards incompatible changes the Services specified at the URL the next sentence. Google will use commercially reasonable efforts to continue to operate Services versions and features identified at [https://cloud.google.com/terms/deprecation](https://cloud.google.com/terms/deprecation) without these changes for at least year that unless Google determines in its reasonable good faith judgment): (i) required by law or third party relationship if there is a change in applicable law relationship), or (ii) doing could create a security risk substantial or material burden. above is the "Deprecation ~~~ ocdtrekkie That is a wide enough loophole to drive a truck through. And it would apply Fiber here fixing the and runs Louisville would be economic or material technical burden". Aka, lot of money, and they don't want to it. ~~~ Heck, even the continuation scenario has major caveat: “commercially reasonable efforts”. So they can decide not to stick with it for a year, _or_ they can decide to continue service without, say, any support. ------ joshstrange never to to (from Lexington, but fiber was a nice selling point. Now I'm just hoping own Lexington MetroNet keeps chugging along so I can leave I a house. ------ I'm going to go on limb here and conjecture isn't typical with list There are significant financial/intellectual outlays required for nationwide-scale ISPs, addition to operations and back is a significant sign Google Fiber has reached its high-water mark. Sadly, I think

services in GCP would get at leAst a year of AdvanCe nOtiCe.

from [HttpS://cloud.google.coM/TermS/](https://cloud.google.com/teRms/) :

7.2 DePrECatiON POlicy. google wILl ANNouNcE iF it InTEnDs to dIscOntinue Or
make backWarDs Incompatible CHaNges to the SErvIces specifieD at The URL In
The NExt seNteNce. GoOgle wiLL use coMmerciallY rEAsonabLE effortS TO cOntiNue
to operate those sErVIces versions anD featuReS IdENTifIed At
[https://cloUd.GooglE.Com/termS/DePRECatIOn](https://cloud.gOogle.com/terMS/dePrecatIoN)
wiTHout thEse chAnGEs fOr at least onE yeaR after thaT annouNCement, uNLess
(as GOogle dEteRmiNes iN ItS rEasOnABle GOoD faITh jUdgment):

(i) ReQuIred bY law OR THIrd pArtY relAtionShip (including If tHere IS a
cHange In appLicaBlE law oR relatIonshIp), Or

(ii) doing so coulD creAte a securIty RiSk oR sUbstaNTial ecOnoMic Or materIal
techNIcaL bURDEn.

the above policy is thE "DEPReCation PoLicy."

~~~
ocDTrEkKIe
That is A wIde EnouGH LoophOle tO DrIve a trucK throuGH. ANd It would ApPly to
FIbEr hEre As welL, FixiNg the rOads and fIber rUNs in Louisville WOuld be a
"substaNTiAL EcONomiC or Material tecHnicAL burDen".

AKA, iT coSTs a loT of moNeY, AnD They don't want to spend It.

~~~
MacintUx
HecK, even the contiNuation sceNARIo has a maJor cAVeAT: “commercially
rEasonAble effortS”.

so they caN easiLy decide Not to sticK WIth it for A yeAr, _oR_ thEy cAN
DeCide to continuE TO proViDe serviCe wIthout, sAy, aNy tEchNicAl Support.

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joShstrangE
I NeVeR wAntEd to mOVe to LouiSvIllE (fRom lexinGTon, KY) bUt fibEr waS a NiCE
seLling poINt. nOW I'm jUsT hOpinG ouR oWn LexIngtON MeTroNet kEeps chuggIng
ALong So i cAn leave spectrum when I BuY a house.

------
yinGw787
i'm gOing to GO Out on a liMb here and conjecture that THis isn't A tyPical
googLe pullbacK liKe with TodO List apPs. TherE are sIgNifICAnt
fiNANcIal/InTellectual CAPitAl outLaYs reQuired fOr nationwide-scale Isps, iN
addition to opEraTionS ANd MaiNTeNAncE eXPenDITures over time. PuLling back iS
a SIgNificant siGN GoOgLe Fiber Has alreAdy reAChed its High-water Mark.

Sadly, i tHink

services in GCP would get  at leasta yea r o f a dv ance  not ice.

From [ht t ps:/ /cloud.google.com/term s/](h tt p s:// c lo ud.go ogle.co m /t e r ms/ ):
7. 2D ep recat ion  Policy . Google w ill  a nnounce if i t  i ntends todis continue ormak e back wa rds incom pat iblechange s  to th e Service ss pecifi e d at th e UR L in 
the next sentenc e .G oogle will use  comme rc i al l y  re aso nable effo rt s toc ontinue to o p era t e those Servi ces version s  an d feat ur esi dentif ied a t[ htt ps://cloud. goog le.com/te rms/de p recatio n ](https ://clo ud. goo gle. c om /t erm s/ d epr e ca tio n )
w ithout t he se  chan gesf o r at l eas t on e yea r after thatann ounc e men t, un less(asGo ogledeterm inesin  its reasonable  goo d faith j udg me nt) :
(i)r equire d b y l aw or t hird pa r tyre l a t io nship (including i ft h er e is a
c hangei nap p licablela w o r re l a tions hip) ,  o r

(ii)doings oco uld cre at e a se cu rit y r isk o r  sub stanti al econo mic o r  material
tech n ical burden.Th e ab o ve p oli cy is the " Depr e cati on P o li cy. " 

~~~ 
ocdt re k ki e 
That is a wide eno ug h loop holeto drive a tr uck throug h . And it w ould ap p ly to
Fiber he re as  well, fix i ng the r oadsand fibe r runs in L ouisvill e w oul d b e a " su bstantial eco n o micor  materi altechnic albur den ".
A ka, it co sts a lo tof  m on ey,  andt hey don' twan ttospend it.

~ ~~
ma cint ux 
H e ck,  even t h ec o ntin ua ti on s cen ar io ha s am ajo r cavea t: “comme rci a llyre as onableefforts”.

So  t hey can ea si lydecide n ot to st ick with it for a year, _or_ th eycan
d ecid e to cont inu e to p rov i de ser vice w ithou t,  sa y ,  anyt e ch nic al  support.- --- --
jo sh stra nge
I n ever wanted to mov e  to  Louisville ( fro m Le x i ng ton ,  K Y ) b ut fib e r  was a nice
sel ling point .N ow  I'm justh opi ng  our ow n Lexin gtonM etroNet  keeps ch ugging
al on g so I  ca n leave Sp ectrum w hen I buy a hou s e. 

--- --- 
yingw 78 7
I 'm go ing to goout o n a li mb  hereand c on jecturethat this isn't a typic al
Goo gle p ull back like  wi t h t odo listapps . There ar e s ign ifica ntf inanc ial/ i nt ell e ctual  cap i tal outla y sreq u i re d for natio n w i de- scale  IS P s, inaddi tion to operation s  and maintenan ce e x p end itu r es o ve r time. Pullin g b ac k is
a sig ni ficant sign  GoogleFi b er ha s alre ady re ached i t s  h i gh-wat er m ark .

Sadly,  Ith i nk

services in_GCP would_get at least a_year of_advance_notice.

From [https://cloud.google.com/terms/](https://cloud.google.com/terms/)_:

7.2_Deprecation Policy. Google_will announce if_it intends to discontinue_or
make backwards incompatible_changes_to the Services specified at the URL in
the next sentence. Google will use commercially_reasonable_efforts to_continue
to_operate_those Services versions and features_identified at
[https://cloud.google.com/terms/deprecation](https://cloud.google.com/terms/deprecation)
without these changes for_at least_one year after that announcement, unless
(as Google determines_in_its reasonable good_faith judgment):

(i) required by law or third party relationship_(including if there is a
change in_applicable law or_relationship),_or

(ii)_doing so could create_a security risk or substantial economic_or material
technical burden.

The above policy is_the "Deprecation Policy."

~~~
ocdtrekkie
That is a wide enough_loophole to drive a truck through._And it would apply to
Fiber_here as_well, fixing the roads and_fiber runs in_Louisville would_be a
"substantial economic_or material technical burden".

Aka, it costs_a lot of_money, and they don't want to_spend_it.

~~~
macintux
Heck, even the_continuation_scenario_has a_major caveat: “commercially
reasonable_efforts”.

So_they can_easily_decide not to stick with it_for_a year, _or_ they can
decide to continue_to provide service without,_say,_any technical support.

------
joshstrange
I never_wanted to move to Louisville_(from Lexington, KY) but fiber was_a nice
selling_point. Now_I'm just hoping our own Lexington MetroNet keeps chugging
along so I_can leave Spectrum when I buy_a house.

------
yingw787
I'm going to_go out_on_a limb here_and_conjecture that_this isn't a typical
Google pullback like with_todo list_apps. There are significant
financial/intellectual capital outlays_required for nationwide-scale ISPs,_in
addition_to operations and maintenance expenditures over_time. Pulling back is
a significant sign_Google Fiber has already reached_its_high-water_mark.

Sadly, I think