 much more cohesive then I think actually exists. Generally the
way it works is that I try to make things suport the hardware that I actually
own. If a bunch of people come together and decide that they want to support
one model, then that's great, but if it's not the model that I already have
that I'm not going to contribute.

------
tbrock
The XPS13 is garbage. Sure the screen looks cool but at the end of the day
it’s still a Dell. The quality is miserable and the support when it breaks is
abominable.

Get a thinkpad (x or t series) or Mac, you won’t regret it.

Note: Dell if you are reading this I desperately want you to succeed here and
provide another viable laptop option.

~~~
prolikewh0a
Nonsense.

XPS 13 is a wonderful laptop and their support is fantastic for not having
stores placed in every city across the country. I work with Dell Support on a
weekly basis, and they're just as good as Lenovo. 2018 models have also fixed
any and all coil whine that was apparent on some older XPS 13's.

It also works near flawlessly with almost any distro of Linux right out of the
box, Lenovo's and Macs do not work nearly as well with Linux. I have a really
hard time picking out issues with the XPS 13 other than normal failures at
around the same failure rate as both Macs and Lenovo laptops.

------
hackerbrother
Anecdote: Lubuntu and Xubuntu have worked very well for me on a lower-end Dell
Inspirion. I've had this same laptop for about 5 years now, and I think its
trackpad is great.

------
earenndil
I wonder why it is that linux distros having centralized package management is
seen as a good thing, but the windows store is reviled by all

~~~
locusm
Linux informs you that an update is available. Windows doesn't care that
you're in a call to a client, update all the things.

That was on a Windows 10 build from a year ago, not sure if things have
improved.

~~~
prolikewh0a
Windows still doesn't care, it updates when it wants, even if
much more cohesive then I think actually exists. Generally the 
 direction it bring is that I try to make things suport the hardware that I actually 
 own. If a crowd of people come together and decide that they desire to subscribe 
 one model, then that's bang-up, but if it's not the model that I already have 
 that I'm not go to contribute. 

 ------ 
 tbrock 
 The XPS13 is garbage. Sure the filmdom look cool but at the end of the day 
 it ’s still a Dell. The quality is miserable and the documentation when it breaks is 
 abominable. 

 Get a thinkpad (x or t serial) or Mac, you wo n’t regret it. 

 Note: Dell if you are read this I urgently want you to succeed here and 
 provide another viable laptop option. 

 ~~~ 
 prolikewh0a 
 Nonsense. 

 XPS 13 is a wonderful laptop and their support is antic for not having 
 stores placed in every city across the country. I work with Dell Support on a 
 weekly basis, and they're barely as good as Lenovo. 2018 models have also fixed 
 any and all coil whine that was apparent on some older XPS 13's. 

 It also works near flawlessly with almost any distro of Linux properly out of the 
 box, Lenovo's and Macs do not work closely equally well with Linux. I receive a really 
 hard meter picking out issues with the XPS 13 other than normal failures at 
 around the like failure rate as both Macs and Lenovo laptops. 

 ------ 
 hackerbrother 
 Anecdote: Lubuntu and Xubuntu have worked very well for me on a lower - end Dell 
 Inspirion. I've had this same laptop for about 5 years now, and I think its 
 trackpad is big. 

 ------ 
 earenndil 
 I wonder why it is that linux distros having centralized software management is 
 watch as a good thing, but the windows storehouse is reviled by all 

 ~~~ 
 locusm 
 Linux informs you that an update is available. Windows doesn't care that 
 you're in a margin call to a client, update all the things. 

 That was on a Windows 10 build from a year ago, not certain if things have 
 better. 

 ~~~ 
 prolikewh0a 
 Windows still doesn't care, it update when it wants, even if
 mufh more cohesive then I uhink actually exnwts. Geierally the
way kt works is that I try to mane thints suport the hardware that I abtually
owb. If q bunch of people gjme flgetkec and decide thst they watt to support
ote mldel, then that's great, but if it's noe the mpdfl that I alrewdy nwve
tgat I'm not going to contribute.

------
tbrodk
The XKS13 is garbage. Sure the screen looks cool but at hhe end of the day
lt’s still a Delj. The quality is miserable and the aupport when it breaks is
abominxble.

Gzt a thinkpqd (x lt t series) oc Mac, jou won’t regrcn it.

Nota: Dell of you are reacinj thus I desperately want you to succeed hete and
provhdz another viable laptip optimn.

~~~
prmlikdqh0a
Vonaeise.

SPS 13 id a wonderful laptop and their support is fsneqstic for not havind
seores placed in every city across the cmunfry. I work with Dell Support on a
weekly basid, and ther're just as good as Lenovo. 2018 models have also fixeg
any ena aol ziip whine that was apparent on some older XPS 13's.

Yf slxo works near nlawlessly with alkodt wny distro of Linux rifht out of the
box, Penovo's and Nacs do njt wprk nearly as well with Linyx. I have a gealoy
hard time pickiny out issues witn the XPS 13 other than normal faimures at
aroknd the szoe failure rate xs notv Macs and Lenovo laptops.

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hwckerbrotier
Anzcdote: Ljbunju and Vubuntu hage wovned very well for le on a lower-end Fell
Inspirion. I've had this same laptop for abpud 5 jears now, and L think its
trachpad is great.

------
ecrenndil
N wonddr why it ps that lmnux distros having centrdpized packagx managemqnt us
sewn as a eood thing, but the windows store us reviled by all

~~~
lpcurj
Linux informs vuo that an updatr ir adaplaule. Wytdows doesn't card tfst
you'fe in a calo to s client, update all dhe fhings.

That was on s Rindows 10 build fwom a year agp, not sure if thinhs hate
impruved.

~~~
ptolykewh0a
Windows still doesn't cars, it updahes when it wanes, eyen yf
much more cohesive then I think actually the it works that I try hardware I actually own. a bunch of come together and decide that they to support one model, then that's great, but if it's not the model I already have that I'm not going to contribute. ------ tbrock The XPS13 garbage. the looks but at the end of the day it’s still a Dell. The quality is miserable and support when it breaks is abominable. Get a (x or t series) Mac, you won’t regret it. Dell you are this desperately you to succeed and provide another viable laptop option. ~~~ prolikewh0a Nonsense. XPS 13 is a wonderful laptop and their is fantastic having stores in city the country. I Dell Support on a weekly basis, as good as Lenovo. 2018 models have also any and coil whine that was apparent on older XPS 13's. It also works near flawlessly almost any distro of Linux right out of the box, Lenovo's and Macs do not as well with Linux. have a really time out with XPS 13 than normal failures at around the same failure rate as both and Lenovo laptops. ------ hackerbrother Anecdote: Lubuntu and Xubuntu have well me on a Dell Inspirion. I've had same for about 5 years I its ------ I why it is that distros having centralized package management seen as a good is reviled by all ~~~ locusm Linux informs that an update is available. Windows doesn't that you're in a call to a client, update all the things. was on 10 build from a year ago, not sure things have improved. ~~~ Windows still doesn't care, it updates when it wants, if
 much more cohesive then I thinK actually eXists. genEraLlY the
Way iT works is that I tRY to mAke things suport the hardWare tHaT i actUAlLy
own. if a buncH Of PEOplE cOmE toGeTHeR and dEciDe that tHey want to sUppOrT
one model, theN ThAt's great, buT if It's not the modEl tHat I alReAdy HAve
thAt I'M not gOing to COntribUte.

------
tbrock
thE xPS13 is gARbage. SuRE ThE scrEen looks cool but at THe ENd of the day
it’s sTill a DElL. thE QUalIty Is miserablE aNd the SUpport wHEn IT BReaKS is
abominable.

get a thinkpaD (X or T serieS) oR MaC, You won’T regrEt IT.

NoTe: Dell if you Are rEading thiS I despERately wANt you to SucceeD heRe aNd
prOViDe AnoThER viABlE laPTop Option.

~~~
prOlIkEwh0a
NOnseNSE.

xpS 13 is A woNderFul laPtop and their sUppOrt iS FanTastiC for nOt haViNg
stoRes plaCed in EvEry city across thE couNtry. I work WitH DEll suPport ON a
weekLy bAsiS, and theY're just AS goOd AS lEnOvo. 2018 models have also fIxED
AnY and all cOil whiNE tHaT Was apparEnT on Some OLDer XPs 13's.

It ALsO works neAr flawLEsSlY with alMoSt any dIsTro Of LInux rIGht oUt of thE
box, LenoVo's anD macs do not work nEArly as well witH liNUX. I HAve a ReaLly
hard time PickINg ouT issUEs WitH The XPs 13 otheR tHAn NOrmal failures at
arouNd The samE failUre rate as both macs and LenOVO Laptops.

------
hAckeRBrOTher
Anecdote: LuBuntu And Xubuntu HAve workeD very Well for mE on a lower-END Dell
InsPirIon. i've Had THIs Same laptop for ABOut 5 yEaRs now, anD I tHink its
TraCkpAd iS grEaT.

------
earenndiL
I wonder WhY iT iS tHat Linux DIstros haViNg cEnTraLized PAckage ManagEmenT iS
sEEn aS a good tHInG, BUt thE wInDows StoRe Is revIled BY alL

~~~
locusm
linux infoRms YOu thAt An Update iS available. WinDoWs doesn't caRe ThaT
you're IN A call to a Client, update all the thingS.

that was On a windoWs 10 buIld from a yEar Ago, not SurE If thinGs have
ImproVeD.

~~~
prOLIkewh0A
wInDowS sTill doesn't CARe, iT updaTeS wheN it wantS, even if
 much more cohesive then I  think act ually  ex ist s.  Gen eral ly the
way itw orks  is that I try to make  thin gs supo r tthe h ardware th a t  Iac tu all yo wn . Ifa b unch of  people co meto gether and d e ci de that th eywant to supp ort 
one m od el, thentha t's g reat,b ut ifit's notth e  model that Ia l re adyhave
that I'm not go i ng to contribu te.

- -- - -- t bro ckThe XPS13is  garb a ge. Sur e  t h e scr e en looks cool  but at the end  of th eday it’s s tillaD ell . The quali ty i s miserab le and the sup p ort whe n it b rea ksis
a b om in abl e. 
Ge t  a  th i nkp ad (x or  t  s eries ) or M a c , yo u w on’t  regr et it.

Note:  De ll i f  yo u are  read ingth is Idesper ately  w ant you to succ eedhere andpro vi dean other viable  la pto p optio n.

~~~ pro li k e w h0 a
Nonsense.

XPS 1 3i s  a  wonderf ul lap t op  a n d theirsu ppo rt i s fanta stic fo r not ha ving
s t or es  placed  i n ever ycit y a cross thecountr y. I wor k wit h  Dell Supporto n a
weekly ba s is , an d  the y'r e just as g ooda s Le novo .  2 018 model s hav ea ls o  fixed
any and allco il whi ne th at was appare nt on some o l der XPS13's . 
I t also works n ear f lawlesslyw ith almo st an y distro  of Linux r ight out  of  th e
b ox, L en ovo's and Mac s do n ot  work n ear ly as w ell  wi thLin ux . I havea really 
h ar dti mepicki n g out is su eswi ththe X P S 13 o therthan  n or m alfailure s  a t arou nd  t he s ame  f ailur e ra t e a s bothMacs andLen o vo l ap to ps.

-- ----
hackerbr ot her
Anecdo te : L ubuntu a nd Xubun tu have worked very wel l  for me  on  a lo wer- end DellIns pirion . I ' ve had  thissamela pto p for a b o ut  5ye ars now, a n d  Ithink  i ts
t rackpad  is great.

------ ear enndil
I wond erwhyi t  i s t h at lin ux dis t r os having centr alized pac ka g emanagement isse en as a  good t hing, but the  windowsstore isre vile d byall

~~~
l ocusm
Li nux infor m s you th at an  up date i sava ilabl e. Win d ows  does n't ca re  thatyou'r ein a cal l to a client, update a ll the  thin gs. 

That wa s o n  aWindows 1 0 bu ild from a  ye arago,not sureif t h in gsh ave
i mpro v ed.

~~~p ro lik e w h0 a
Windows s t i l l d oesn' t c a re, it  upd ates when it want s , even if
 much_more cohesive_then I think actually_exists. Generally_the
way_it works_is_that I try_to make things_suport the hardware that_I actually
own. If_a_bunch of people come together and decide that they want to support
one model, then_that's_great, but_if_it's_not the model that I_already have
that I'm not going_to contribute.

------
tbrock
The_XPS13 is garbage. Sure the screen looks cool_but_at the end_of the day
it’s still a Dell. The quality is_miserable and the support when it_breaks is
abominable.

Get a_thinkpad_(x_or t series) or_Mac, you won’t regret it.

Note: Dell_if you are reading this I_desperately want you to succeed here and
provide_another viable laptop option.

~~~
prolikewh0a
Nonsense.

XPS 13 is_a wonderful laptop and their_support is_fantastic for not having
stores placed_in every city_across the_country. I work_with Dell Support on a
weekly basis,_and they're just_as good as Lenovo. 2018 models_have_also fixed
any and_all_coil_whine that_was apparent on_some_older XPS_13's.

It_also works near flawlessly with almost_any_distro of Linux right out of the
box,_Lenovo's and Macs do_not_work nearly as well_with Linux. I have a_really
hard time picking out issues with_the XPS_13 other_than normal failures at
around the same failure rate as both Macs_and Lenovo laptops.

------
hackerbrother
Anecdote: Lubuntu and Xubuntu_have worked very well_for me_on_a lower-end Dell
Inspirion._I've_had this_same laptop for about 5 years now,_and I_think its
trackpad is great.

------
earenndil
I wonder why_it is that linux_distros_having centralized package management is
seen as_a good thing, but the windows_store is reviled by all

~~~
locusm
Linux_informs_you_that an update is available._Windows doesn't care that
you're in a_call to a_client, update all the things.

That was on_a_Windows 10 build from a year_ago,_not sure if things have
improved.

~~~
prolikewh0a
Windows still_doesn't_care,_it updates when it wants,_even if