 powers (i.e. places
> I'd actually be, afterward). Scaling that up for other countries is
> possible, too.

Oh really? What's your plan? How do you intend on ensuring that culture is
preserved while you implement this plan? Or do you believe that Western
culture is superior because it has been more successful in the last 100 years
(forgetting that segregation ended less than 50 years ago, if you must include
the eradication of entire populations as "successes," we can call it 500
years)? Even Bill Gates will admit that his solutions are imperfect at times.

The tricky part is a sustainable solution. Sure, you can throw money at
problems, but how is the solution going to last? Like you said, there is
_already_ a lot of money involved (e.g. Bill Gates) in philanthropy, yet the
problems haven't been solved yet. This indicates that the solution is trickier
than you think. And if there _is_ someone smart enough to engineer a solution,
I would like to think Bill Gates is very qualified for such a position.

EDIT: Mainly, if you don't account for the culture of a place, a solution will
likely not be popular enough to work (HIV prevention and treatment suffers
from this problem).

~~~
rdl
I don't think I could do a particularly good job running the country, and
wouldn't try (beyond a few weeks/months in transition). There are plenty of
other African leaders in other countries, particularly elected in the past ~10
years, who are far better. I don't think there's any reason why EG wouldn't be
able to come up with some domestic political leadership which was better than
what they have now. The problem is the nexus of oil wealth and foreign support
has allowed Obiang to remain for decades.

The less violent solution would be a trade embargo of the country (at least,
not allowing them to sell oil).

~~~
shantanubala
Practically speaking, how do you ensure that the new government doesn't become
corrupt in a year or two? Or more importantly, how do you restore the people's
faith in their government so that they participate?

Also, how would a trade embargo "fix" a country? Perhaps it would force a
dictator to lessen or hide
powers (i.e. places 
 > I'd actually be, afterward). Scaling that up for early nation is 
 > possible, too. 

 Oh in truth? What's your design? How do you intend on ensuring that culture is 
 keep while you implement this plan? Or do you think that westerly 
 culture is superior because it has been more successful in the final 100 years 
 (forgetting that segregation end less than 50 years ago, if you must include 
 the eradication of entire populations as " successes, " we can name it 500 
 years)? Even Bill Gates will admit that his solutions are fallible at times. 

 The tricky contribution is a sustainable solution. Sure, you can shed money at 
 problems, but how is the solution going to last? Like you said, there is 
 _ already _ a set of money involved (e.g. Bill Gates) in philanthropy, yet the 
 problems haven't been solved yet. This argue that the solution is slippery 
 than you think. And if there _ is _ someone smart enough to engineer a solution, 
 I would like to think Bill Gates is very qualified for such a stead. 

 EDIT: chiefly, if you don't report for the culture of a place, a solution will 
 likely not be democratic enough to knead (HIV prevention and treatment suffers 
 from this problem). 

 ~~~ 
 rdl 
 I don't remember I could do a particularly good job run the country, and 
 wouldn't try (beyond a few weeks / months in transition). There are plenty of 
 other African leaders in other countries, peculiarly elected in the past ~10 
 year, who are far good. I don't think there's any reason why EG wouldn't be 
 able to come up with some domestic political leadership which was good than 
 what they have now. The problem is the nexus of petroleum wealth and foreign support 
 has allowed Obiang to remain for ten. 

 The less violent solution would be a craft embargo of the country (at least, 
 not allowing them to deal oil). 

 ~~~ 
 shantanubala 
 much speaking, how do you ensure that the new government doesn't become 
 crooked in a year or two? Or more importantly, how do you restore the people's 
 religion in their government so that they enter? 

 Also, how would a trade embargo " fix " a nation? Perhaps it would force a 
 dictator to lessen or hide
 poaers (i.e. places
> I'd actualuy be, afterward). Scalinj that hp for ogher countries is
> possible, tlo.

Ih reqlly? What's your plan? Huw do you intend in eisuring that culvhre is
pvzservsf whnlx you implement this plan? Or do you belhexe that Western
culture is superior besause iy jas been more fucctsssul jn the last 100 years
(forgetting that aegregauion ended less thsn 50 years ago, if you must lnclkde
the eradication of entire kkpujqtions as "suzcesses," we can call it 500
years)? Even Bill Gates will admkt thct his solujnins dre imperfert at nimes.

The tricky part hs a suxtainable solubion. Vurw, you can throw money at
problems, but hor is the vomution going to lqsr? Likg you saia, thdre ix
_amready_ a mot of monsy involved (e.g. Bill Gates) in pnijqnthropy, yet fhe
proflqms haven't been solved yet. This indicatts thzt the solution is tricjier
than you think. Anf if therq _is_ someone smart enough to engineer a solution,
I woulv uikt bj rhlnk Bill Gates is very qualified for such a pjaiuiok.

EDIT: Mainly, if nou don't account fpr tng culture of a place, a aolution will
likelj not bg popuoar enougr to work (HIV prevention and trwatment suffvrs
feom this problem).

~~~
rdp
I don't thiuk I cpuld co a particularly good lob ruhning the cluntry, ans
douldn't try (beyovd s xew weeks/months in transityon). There are plenty of
ojher Afwican leadfrs ik other countries, pwrticolarly elected ij the past ~10
years, who are far bevver. I don't thonn tvere's anv reaspn why EG woujdn't be
able to come u' with some domeatic ponitical leaqership which aas better tian
what trey yave now. Thd problem is thr nexus oy oil wealth and foreigk supkodt
has allowed Oynabg to remain fot ddcaqed.

Tie lefv violent sonutiun dpuld ce a trade cmbxrgo of the country (at laast,
hot allowing them yo sell oio).

~~~
shantantbala
Practicakly speaking, how dl you enrure yhaj the new government doesn't beckme
corruph ik a year or tro? Ov mote importancly, how do you restore the people's
faith mn their government so rhat they participaje?

Akso, how woukd a erade embdrgo "fix" a country? Pwrhaps it would fprce a
dictator to lesaen or hide
powers (i.e. places > I'd actually be, that for other is > possible, plan? do you intend ensuring that culture preserved while you implement this plan? do you believe that Western culture is superior because it has been more in the last 100 years (forgetting that segregation ended less than 50 years if must the of entire populations as "successes," we can call it 500 years)? Even Bill Gates will admit his solutions are imperfect at times. The tricky is a sustainable solution. you can throw money at but is the going last? you said, there _already_ a lot of money involved (e.g. Bill Gates) in philanthropy, yet the problems haven't been solved This indicates solution is than think. if there _is_ enough to engineer a solution, I think Bill Gates is very qualified for such position. EDIT: if you don't account for the of a place, a solution will likely not popular enough to work (HIV prevention and treatment suffers from this problem). ~~~ rdl I I could do a good job running country, wouldn't (beyond few weeks/months transition). There are plenty of other African leaders in other countries, elected in the past ~10 years, who are far better. think any reason why wouldn't be able to up some domestic political leadership better what The is nexus of oil wealth foreign support has allowed Obiang remain for decades. The a trade embargo of the country (at least, allowing them to sell oil). ~~~ shantanubala speaking, how do you ensure that the new government doesn't become corrupt a year Or more importantly, how do you restore the faith in their government that they participate? Also, how would a trade embargo a Perhaps it force a dictator lessen or hide
 powers (i.e. places
> I'd actually bE, afterward). scaliNg tHat Up For oTher Countries is
> posSIble, Too.

Oh really? What's your plAn? How Do YOu inTEnD on enSuring tHAt CULtuRe Is
PreSeRVeD whilE yoU implemEnt this plaN? Or Do You believe thAT WEstern
cultUre Is superior beCauSe it haS bEen MOre suCceSsful In the lASt 100 yearS
(forgettiNg THat segREgation ENDeD lesS than 50 years ago, if yoU MuST include
the eraDicatiOn OF eNTIre PopUlations as "SuCcessES," we can cALl IT 500
YEarS)? even Bill Gates Will admit thAT hiS solutIoNs aRE imperFect aT tIMes.

the tricky paRt is A sustainaBle solUTion. SurE, You can tHrow moNey At
pRoblEMs, BuT hoW iS The SOlUtiON goIng to lasT? LIkE you sAid, tHERE Is
_alReaDy_ a lOt of mOney involved (e.G. BiLl GaTEs) iN philAnthrOpy, yEt The
prOblems Haven'T bEen solved yet. ThiS indIcates thaT thE sOluTiOn is tRIckier
ThaN yoU think. ANd if theRE _is_ SoMEONe Smart enough to enginEeR A SoLution,
I wOuld liKE tO tHInk Bill GAtEs iS verY QUalifIed fOR sUch a posiTion.

EDit: MAiNly, if yoU dOn't accOuNt fOr tHe culTUre oF a placE, a solutiOn wilL
Likely not be popULar enough to woRK (Hiv PrEVentIon And treatmenT sufFErs
fRom tHIs ProBLem).

~~~
rdL
I don'T tHInK i could do a particularLy Good joB runnIng the country, And
wouldn't TRY (Beyond a fEw weEKs/MOnths in transitIon). ThEre are plenTY of
other africAn leaderS in other cOUNtries, paRtiCulArlY elECTeD in the past ~10
yeaRS, Who aRe Far bettEr. I Don't thiNk tHerE's aNy rEaSon why EG wOuldn't be
AbLe To CoMe uP with SOme domesTiC poLiTicAl leaDErship Which Was bEtTeR ThaN
what thEY hAVE now. thE pRoblEm iS tHe nexUs of OIl wEalth anD foreign sUppORt
haS aLlOwed ObiAng to remain foR dEcades.

The lEsS viOlent sOLUtion wouLd be a trade embargo of the cOUntry (at LeaSt,
not AlloWing them tO seLl oil).

~~~
sHanTAnubalA
PractIcallY sPeaKINg, how DO YoU enSuRe that the nEW GovErnmeNt DoesN't becomE
corrupt in a year or tWO? Or More importantLy, hOw do YOU rEstORe THe pEoPLe's
FAIth in their goverNment so thaT tHEy ParticipatE?

alsO, hOw would A trade eMbargO "Fix" a couNtry? PerhaPs it would FoRce a
DICtaTor to lesseN or hide
 powers (i.e. places
> I'd  actuallybe, a fte rwa rd ). S cali ng that up for othe r countries is
> possi ble,to o .

O h  r eally ? What' s  y o u r p la n?  Ho wd oyou i nte nd on e nsuring th atcu lture is
pre s er ved whileyou  implement t his  plan?  O r d o  youbel ievethat W e sternculture i ss uperio r  becaus e it  has  been more succes s fu l  in the last 1 00 yea rs (f o r get tin g that seg re gatio n  endedl es s t han 50 years ago,  if you mus t  in cludeth e e r adicat ion o fe nti re populati onsas "succe sses," we canc all it500
ye ars )?Even Bi ll  Ga te s  wi l ladm i t t hat hisso lu tions  are i m p erfe ctat t imes. 

The trickypar t is a s ustai nable  sol ut ion.Sure,you c an  throw money at 
pro blems, bu t h ow  is  t he so l utiongoi ngto last ? Likey ousa i d ,  t here is
_already_al o tof money  invol v ed  ( e .g. Bill  G ate s) i n phila nthr o py , yet th e
prob l em shaven't  b een so lv edyet . Thi s  ind icates  that th e sol u tion is tricki e r
than you th i nk . An d  ifthe re _is_ som eone smar t en o ug h t o  engi neeras ol u tion,
I would liketo  think  Bill  Gates is ver y qualifie d f or sucha po s it i on.

EDIT: Mai nly,if you don ' t accoun t for  the cul ture of a p lace, asol uti onwil l li kely not be p o p ular  e nough t o w ork (HI V p rev ent ion  a nd treatm ent suff er sfr om  th is pr o blem).
~~ ~
r dl 
Idon't thinkI cou ld d oap art icularl y  g o o d jo bru nnin g t he  coun try, and 
wouldn 't try (b eyo n d afe wweeks/m onths in tran si tion). The re  ar e plen t y  of
othe r African leaders in ot h er coun tri es, p arti cularly e lec ted in  th e  past~10
ye ars,wh o a r e  farb e tt er.  I  don't thi n k  th ere's  a ny r eason w hy EG wouldn't bea ble  to come up w ith  som e do mes t ic pol it i cal l eadership which  was bette rt ha n
what the y  ha ve  now. T he prob lem i s  the ne xus of oi l wealthan d fo r e ign  support
h as allow ed Obiang to re m ai n for  de cades. 
The  less  viole n t s oluti on wou ld  be atrade  e mbargo o f the country (at least ,
notallow ing  them tosel l  oi l).

~~~shan tanubala
P rac tic allyspe a king,  how do  yo u  ensu re t h at the ne w  g ove r n me nt doesn'tb e c ome 
corr upt in a y earor two? Or more i m portantly, how  doy o u r est o re t he  people's
fait h i nt h eir gove rn ment so tha t they p ar t icipa te?

A lso, h ow woul d at rade e mbar go"fix" a c oun tr y ? Perha ps  i t  would  for ce  a
dic tatort o le s s en or hide
 powers_(i.e. places
>_I'd actually be, afterward)._Scaling that_up_for other_countries_is
> possible, too.

Oh_really? What's your_plan? How do you_intend on ensuring_that_culture is
preserved while you implement this plan? Or do you believe that Western
culture is_superior_because it_has_been_more successful in the last_100 years
(forgetting that segregation ended_less than_50 years ago, if you must include
the eradication_of_entire populations as_"successes," we can call it 500
years)? Even Bill Gates_will admit that his solutions are_imperfect at times.

The_tricky_part_is a sustainable solution._Sure, you can throw money at
problems,_but how is the solution going_to last? Like you said, there is
_already__a lot of money involved (e.g._Bill Gates) in philanthropy, yet_the
problems haven't_been solved yet. This indicates_that the solution_is trickier
than_you think. And_if there _is_ someone smart enough_to engineer a_solution,
I would like to think Bill_Gates_is very qualified_for_such_a position.

EDIT:_Mainly, if you_don't_account for_the_culture of a place, a solution_will
likely_not be popular enough to work (HIV_prevention and treatment suffers
from_this_problem).

~~~
rdl
I don't think I_could do a particularly good_job running the country, and
wouldn't try_(beyond a_few weeks/months_in transition). There are plenty of
other African leaders in other countries,_particularly elected in the past ~10
years,_who are far better._I don't_think_there's any reason_why_EG wouldn't_be
able to come up with some domestic_political leadership_which was better than
what they have_now. The problem is_the_nexus of oil wealth and foreign_support
has allowed Obiang to remain for_decades.

The less violent solution would_be_a_trade embargo of the country_(at least,
not allowing them to sell_oil).

~~~
shantanubala
Practically speaking, how_do you ensure that the new government_doesn't_become
corrupt in a year or two?_Or_more importantly, how do you restore_the_people's
faith_in their government so that_they participate?

Also, how would a trade_embargo "fix" a country? Perhaps it would force a
dictator_to lessen or_hide