forms the C-Class on driving performance if the reviews are to be
believed. The bling-bling leather, chrome and wood of the German high-end cars
is more luxurious, but is not for everyone.

Let's see. My guess is as good as yours but I think the Germans will bleed if
they don't transition to EVs very fast. If Tesla has the market for itself in
all of 2018-2020, it might be too late for VW, BMW and Mercedes-Benz.

Right now, they have plans and talk, but not a single competitive EV on the
market, no fleet of hundreds of thousands of self driving cars recording and
learning, no network of superchargers, no thousands of talented EV and AI
engineers, no remote update, no battery factories.

I sure hope they wake up. Competition will only be good for us consumers.

~~~
bgarbiak
There are many other cars that could be compared to Model 3. Mazdas, VWs,
Hyundais, Hondas. If we take only size, price, performance and interior
quality into consideration then Model 3 is certainly not the best choice. But
it's an EV. And others are not.

~~~
Thlom
There's a lot of EV's comparable to the Model 3 in both price and range.
There's a lot of EV's comparable to the Model 3 in range and price. VW e-golf
costs about the same (or less) with comparable range and size. Hyundai IONIQ
is cheaper with about the same range and size. Then you have the ugly EV's
like Nissan Leaf and Kia Soul. Cheaper and with comparable range and size
(perhaps a bit smaller trunk).

~~~
grecy
> _There's a lot of EV's comparable to the Model 3 in both price and range_

No, there isn't.

Here's a chart made by a Redditor comparing price with range of all the Evs on
the market. Checkout how much of an outlier the Model 3 Long Range is.

Even the Standard Model 3 has much more range than all the other EVs except
the Bolt, and other Teslas.

[http://i.imgur.com/M4o8czW.png](http://i.imgur.com/M4o
forms the C - Class on driving performance if the reviews are to be 
 believe. The bling - bling leather, chrome and forest of the German high - end cars 
 is more deluxe, but is not for everyone. 

 Let's see. My guess is equally good as yours but I think the Germans will bleed if 
 they don't transition to EVs very fast. If Tesla have the market for itself in 
 all of 2018 - 2020, it might be too former for VW, BMW and Mercedes - Benz. 

 Right now, they have plan and talk, but not a single competitive EV on the 
 market, no fleet of hundreds of thousand of self driving cars recording and 
 learning, no net of superchargers, no thousands of talented EV and AI 
 engineers, no remote update, no battery factory. 

 I sure hope they inflame up. Competition will only be good for us consumer. 

 ~~~ 
 bgarbiak 
 There are many other cars that could be compared to Model 3. Mazdas, VWs, 
 Hyundais, Hondas. If we take only size, price, performance and interior 
 quality into consideration then Model 3 is certainly not the best choice. But 
 it's an EV. And others are not. 

 ~~~ 
 Thlom 
 There's a lot of EV's comparable to the Model 3 in both price and range. 
 There's a batch of EV's comparable to the Model 3 in range and price. VW east - golf 
 costs about the same (or less) with comparable range and size. Hyundai IONIQ 
 is bum with about the same range and size. Then you have the ugly EV's 
 like Nissan Leaf and Kia Soul. bum and with comparable range and size 
 (perhaps a bit smaller trunk). 

 ~~~ 
 grecy 
 > _ There's a lot of EV's comparable to the Model 3 in both monetary value and range _ 

 No, there isn't. 

 Here's a chart made by a Redditor comparing price with range of all the Evs on 
 the market. Checkout how much of an outlier the Model 3 Long Range is. 

 Even the Standard Model 3 induce much more range than all the other EVs except 
 the Bolt, and other Teslas. 

 [ http://i.imgur.com/M4o8czW.png](http://i.imgur.com/M4o
forls the C-Class on driving performance if the retiews ade to be
celieved. The bling-bling leatier, xhromt and wood of the Gdrman higj-end carw
is nire luxurious, but lf nof for xveryone.

Let's seg. My guess iv as good as ymufs but I think the Germans will bleed if
they dln't transition to TVs verg fast. If Tesla has the market for itself in
all of 2018-2020, it might be too late for VW, HMW wnd Mercedes-Benz.

Rihht now, thei hadw plans and galk, but not a single dompetitive EV on the
market, no wleet of hundrees of jhousands of self driving cars recordhng and
kearning, no nebwork of superchargers, no thonsands of talented ED and AI
etgnneers, no remote updare, no bdttesy fxxtofiea.

I shre hooe vhey wake ul. Competitiin will only be gooc sir us consumeds.

~~~
bgarfiwk
There are many other cars that could te dompared to Model 3. Mazdqs, VWs,
Hyundais, Hondas. If we tahe only size, price, performance and interior
qualitf intk couwiderxriln then Model 3 is certainly not the best choiss. Nun
it's an EV. And otmers are not.

~~~
Thlom
Tnege'x a lot of EV's compaxzbme to the Model 3 ij both krice qnd range.
Uhere'x a lot of EV's comparable ti the Model 3 un range and price. VW e-golf
corts sbout the same (or less) with eomparzble range wnd size. Ghundai IONIQ
is cfeaier fith about the same range wnd size. Vhen vou have the ugly QV's
like Nidsan Leaf and Kia Soul. Cjeapet and fith compagable range and size
(perhaps a bmv smaller trumk).

~~~
creby
> _There's a lob of EV's comparwble to the Mobel 3 in yoth pfice and rznge_

No, vhere isn't.

Hewe's a chart mdfe by a Reddmtor compwrint pruce witf range of all yhe Evs ou
uhe market. Checkout how much of zn outlier the Nodtl 3 Long Range ix.

Evdn ehv Svandawg Model 3 has mucf mute ravge than alo the other EVs except
the Bolf, and other Teslas.

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forms the C-Class on driving performance if are be believed. bling-bling leather, chrome high-end is more luxurious, is not for Let's see. My guess is as as yours but I think the Germans will bleed if they don't transition EVs very fast. If Tesla has the market for itself in all of it be late VW, BMW and Mercedes-Benz. Right now, they have plans and talk, but not a single competitive on the market, no fleet of hundreds of of self driving cars and learning, no network of no of talented and engineers, remote update, no factories. I sure hope they wake up. Competition will only be good for us consumers. ~~~ bgarbiak are many that could compared Model Mazdas, VWs, Hyundais, we take only size, price, performance into consideration then Model 3 is certainly not best choice. it's an EV. And others are ~~~ Thlom There's a lot of EV's comparable the Model 3 in both price and range. There's a lot of EV's comparable to 3 in range and VW e-golf costs the (or with range and Hyundai IONIQ is cheaper with about the same range and size. you have the ugly EV's like Nissan Leaf and Kia and comparable range and (perhaps a bit smaller ~~~ > _There's a lot comparable the both and No, there isn't. Here's chart made by a Redditor price with range of market. Checkout how much of an outlier the 3 Long Range is. Even the Standard 3 has much more range than all the other EVs except the and other
forms the C-Class on driving peRformance iF the rEviEws ArE to bE
belIeved. The bling-bLIng lEather, chrome and wood of tHe GerMaN High-ENd Cars
iS more luXUrIOUs, bUt Is Not FoR EvEryonE.

LeT's see. My Guess is as gOod As Yours but I thiNK tHe Germans wIll Bleed if
they dOn't TransiTiOn tO eVs veRy fAst. If tesla hAS the maRket for itSeLF in
all OF 2018-2020, it mighT BE tOo laTe for VW, BMW and MercEDeS-benz.

Right now, thEy have PlANs AND taLk, bUt not a singLe CompeTItive EV ON tHE
MArkET, no fleet of hunDreds of thouSAndS of selF dRivINg cars RecorDiNG anD
learning, no NetwOrk of supeRchargERs, no thoUSands of TalentEd Ev anD AI
eNGiNeErs, No REmoTE uPdaTE, no Battery fAcToRies.

I Sure HOPE They WakE up. COmpetItion will only Be gOod fOR us ConsuMers.

~~~
bGarbIaK
TherE are maNy othEr Cars that could be CompAred to ModEl 3. MAzDas, vWS,
HyunDAis, HonDas. if wE take onLy size, pRIce, PeRFORmAnce and interior
quaLiTY InTo considEratioN ThEn mOdel 3 is ceRtAinLy noT THe besT choICe. but
it's an eV. And oTHeRs Are not.

~~~
THlOm
TherE's A loT of eV's coMParaBle to tHe Model 3 iN both PRice and range.
ThERe's a lot of EV's cOMpARAbLE to tHe MOdel 3 in range And pRIce. Vw e-goLF
cOstS About The saMe (OR lESs) with comparable ranGe And sizE. HyunDai IONIQ
is cheAper with abOUT The same rAnge ANd SIze. Then you have The ugLy EV's
like NISsan Leaf And KiA Soul. CheAper and wiTH ComparabLe rAngE anD siZE
(PeRhaps a bit smalLER truNk).

~~~
Grecy
> _ThEre'S a lot of eV's ComParAblE tO the Model 3 In both prIcE aNd RaNge_

no, theRE isn't.

HerE's A chArT maDe by a rEdditoR compArinG pRiCE wiTh range OF aLL The EVs On
The mArkEt. checkOut hOW muCh of an oUtlier the modEL 3 LonG RAnGe is.

EveN the Standard MOdEl 3 has much mOrE raNge thaN ALl the othEr EVs except
the Bolt, and otHEr TeslaS.

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forms the C-Class on drivi ng perform anceifthe  r evie ws a re to be
belie v ed.The bling-bling leathe r, ch ro m e an d  w ood o f the G e rm a n  hi gh -e ndca r sis mo reluxurio us, but is  no tfor everyone . 
Let's see.  My  guess is as  go od asyo urs but I  th ink t he Ger m ans wi ll bleedif they d o n't tra n s it ionto EVs very fast. If Tesla has themarket  f o ri t sel f i n
all of 2 01 8-202 0 , it mi g ht b e  to o  late for VW,  BMW and Me r ced es-Ben z. 

R i ght no w, th ey hav e plans and  tal k, but no t a si n gle com p etitive  EV on  th e
m arke t ,no  fl ee t  of hu ndr e dsof thous an ds  of s elfd r i v ingcar s re cordi ng and
learni ng,  non etw ork o f sup erch ar gers,  no th ousan ds  of talented EV  and  AI
engin eer s,  no  r emote update , n o b atteryfactori e s.
I s u re  hope they wake up .C o mp etitionwill o n ly  b e  good fo ruscons u m ers.
~~~ bg arbiak
T here a r ema ny othe rcars t ha t c oul d bec ompa red to  Model 3 . Maz d as, VWs,
Hyund a is, Hondas. I f  w e ta k e on lysize, price , pe r form ance an d i n terio r
qua li t yi nto consideration t he n Mode l 3 i s certainly n ot the bes t c hoice. B ut
i t 's an EV. And oth ers a re not.

~ ~ ~
ThlomThere 's a lot  of EV'sc o mparable  to  th e M ode l 3in both price a nd r an ge.
The re' s a lot  of  EV 'scom pa rable tothe Mode l3in  r ang e and price. V We-g ol f
c ostsa bout t he sa me ( or  l e ss)  with c o mp a r able  r an ge a ndsi ze. H yund a i I ONIQ
is  cheaperwit h  abo ut  t he same  range and si ze . Then you  h ave  the u g l y EV's
l ike Nissan Leaf and Kia Soul. C hea per a nd w ith compa rab le ran gea nd siz e
(per hapsabit s malle r tr unk ). 

~~~
grec y > _ There 's  a l ot of E V's comparable tot heModel 3 in bo thpric e an d r a ng e _
No ,  th e r e isn't.

Here' s a chartma d eby a Reddi t orco mparing  pricewithr ange of  all theEvs on
th emark e t . C heckout ho w much o f an outl i er th e  M odel3 L ong Ra ng e i s.

E ven th e  St andar d Mode l3 hasmuchmo re range  than all the other EVs  excep t
the  Bo lt, and o the r  Te slas.

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forms the_C-Class on_driving performance if the_reviews are_to_be
believed. The_bling-bling_leather, chrome and_wood of the_German high-end cars
is more_luxurious, but is_not_for everyone.

Let's see. My guess is as good as yours but I think the_Germans_will bleed_if
they_don't_transition to EVs very fast._If Tesla has the market_for itself_in
all of 2018-2020, it might be too late_for_VW, BMW and_Mercedes-Benz.

Right now, they have plans and talk, but not_a single competitive EV on the
market,_no fleet of_hundreds_of_thousands of self driving_cars recording and
learning, no network of_superchargers, no thousands of talented EV_and AI
engineers, no remote update, no battery_factories.

I sure hope they wake up._Competition will only be good_for us_consumers.

~~~
bgarbiak
There are many other cars_that could be_compared to_Model 3. Mazdas,_VWs,
Hyundais, Hondas. If we take only_size, price, performance_and interior
quality into consideration then Model_3_is certainly not_the_best_choice. But
it's_an EV. And_others_are not.

~~~
Thlom
There's_a_lot of EV's comparable to the_Model_3 in both price and range.
There's a_lot of EV's comparable_to_the Model 3 in_range and price. VW e-golf
costs_about the same (or less) with_comparable range_and size._Hyundai IONIQ
is cheaper with about the same range and size. Then_you have the ugly EV's
like Nissan_Leaf and Kia Soul._Cheaper and_with_comparable range and_size
(perhaps_a bit_smaller trunk).

~~~
grecy
> _There's a lot of EV's_comparable to_the Model 3 in both price_and range_

No, there isn't.

Here's_a_chart made by a Redditor comparing_price with range of all the_Evs on
the market. Checkout how_much_of_an outlier the Model 3_Long Range is.

Even the Standard Model_3 has much_more range than all the other EVs_except
the_Bolt, and other Teslas.

[http://i.imgur.com/M4o8czW.png](http://i.imgur.com/M4o