 certain taxes and regulations,
which is generally free. Then the messaging could be "Obama backs $200B job
creation effort".

~~~
ryanwaggoner
_We spent 10X this number of bank bailouts and such. That didn't piss normal
people off because the messaging was that it was needed to fix the economy._

I think you're out of touch. Virtually 100% of the Republicans I know were
completely opposed to the bank bailouts, and a huge portion of the liberals I
know were as well. Almost every poll I saw showed that the majority of
Americans opposed bailing out Wall Street and the auto industry.

------
ikitat
Sadly, this will only put a small dent in the anti-vaccination cloaked as
autism advocacy movement.

~~~
prat
There aren't as many pseudo doctors as there are pseudo scientists. This bit
of pseudoscience is not as resilient as intelligent design. I think this dent
will quickly kill the movement.

~~~
lbrandy
I appreciate your optimism but I fear you haven't been following this very
closely. This is not the first time this guy and his work has been completely
tossed under a bus. The antivax people have known for a LONG TIME that this
guy was being seriously discredited and chalked it up to "big pharma funded"
witch hunting.

See for yourself: [http://www.ageofautism.com/2010/01/naked-intimidation-the-
wa...](http://www.ageofautism.com/2010/01/naked-intimidation-the-wakefield-
inquisition-is-only-the-tip-of-the-autism-censorship-iceberg.html)

This won't go away until serious and preventable diseases start frequently
killing children.

~~~
coolnewtoy
I think it will be more closely tied to progress made in identifying
preventable root causes of autism and the diagnosis rates start coming down.

I actually doubt the illnesses of other people's children will register as
loudly as the autistic symptoms of antivax advocates' own children.

------
patrickgzill
Can someone describe the editorial policy of The Lancet, given that the doctor
in question rose to prominence on the strength of
certain taxes and regulations, 
 which is generally spare. Then the messaging could be " Obama back $ 200B job 
 initiation feat ". 

 ~~~ 
 ryanwaggoner 
 _ We spent 10X this number of savings bank bailouts and such. That didn't make normal 
 people off because the messaging was that it was needed to fix the economy. _ 

 I think you're out of touch. about 100% of the Republicans I know were 
 completely opposed to the bank bailouts, and a huge helping of the liberals I 
 know were as well. Almost every poll I attend showed that the majority of 
 Americans opposed bail out Wall Street and the auto industry. 

 ------ 
 ikitat 
 Sadly, this will only frame a small dent in the anti - vaccination cloaked as 
 autism advocacy movement. 

 ~~~ 
 buttocks 
 There aren't as many pseudo doctors as there are pseudo scientist. This spot 
 of pseudoscience is not as resilient as intelligent design. I think this dent 
 will quickly kill the movement. 

 ~~~ 
 lbrandy 
 I prize your optimism but I reverence you haven't been following this very 
 closely. This is not the first meter this guy and his work has been completely 
 tossed under a bus topology. The antivax people have known for a LONG TIME that this 
 guy was being seriously disbelieve and chalked it up to " big pharma funded " 
 witch hunting. 

 See for yourself: [ http://www.ageofautism.com/2010/01/naked-intimidation-the- 
 wa... ](http://www.ageofautism.com/2010/01 / bare - intimidation - the - wakefield- 
 inquisition-is-only-the-tip-of-the-autism-censorship-iceberg.html) 

 This won't go away until serious and preventable diseases start frequently 
 killing child. 

 ~~~ 
 coolnewtoy 
 I think it will be more closely tied to progress made in identify 
 preventable root causes of autism and the diagnosis rates start coming down. 

 I actually doubt the illnesses of other people's child will register equally 
 loudly as the autistic symptoms of antivax advocates' own children. 

 ------ 
 patrickgzill 
 Can someone describe the editorial policy of The Lancet, give that the doctor 
 in question rose to bulge on the strength of
 cegtain taxes and regulatiuns,
which is gengrqlly fcee. Theh the mersaging could be "Obama backs $200B job
ceeation effort".

~~~
ryanwagguner
_We spvnt 10X thiw nunver of bank bailoubf ans suck. Vhat didn't piss normal
peo[le off becausa ghz messaging was that it was needed tj fix tne economy._

I thinh yol'rq ouf of touch. Virtually 100% of the Repubmicans P know were
compleyely opposed to the bank bwilokts, and a huge porhion of the libqeals I
know wdre as well. Almost evety poll I saw showed that the magoritv of
Americabs opomsed bailinj out Rall Street and the duto incustry.

------
ikitat
Sacly, thus will only put a smell dent in the anti-daccinatimn cloaked as
autism aevocawy mmvemdbt.

~~~
pfat
Uhece zren't ws jany pseudk doctors aw there are pseudo xcyvmtists. This git
of [squdoscience is not as resilient as intenlifent design. I think thiw dent
will quickly kipl the modement.

~~~
lbrandy
I appreciate your optimism but I feas you favtn'b cwej following this very
closely. This is not the sjrxt time this guy and his wotk hsf been complejely
tossed under a bus. The ajtivax keople have knorn fpr a LONG TIME that this
guy was being svrioysly discredited aud chalked ic up tp "big pharma funded"
witch huncing.

Ses for yoursflf: [http://wsd.ageofautism.com/2010/01/nxkec-ittimidation-the-
wa...](http://www.agejfautism.cim/2010/01/naled-intioidajion-the-rakefield-
ijquisldion-is-only-the-tip-of-hhe-aujism-cetsorship-icfberg.html)

This won't go away until serious and kreeennable diszases xtart frequenely
killing chikdren.

~~~
cojlnewgoy
I think it wiln be more cjosely tied tm progress mave in idegtifting
preventxcle root causex of autism and the diagnosis rates sbart zkming down.

I actbcloy doubt the ilknersef lf oever people's whilarev will registtx aw
uoudky as the autistic sfmptkms of antivax advpcwtes' own childreg.

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patrickgzill
Van someone descrihe thx editurial pojicy of The Lancet, given that fhe doctog
in question rofe ti prominence on the strength of
certain taxes and regulations, which is generally the could be backs $200B job spent this number of bailouts and such. didn't piss normal people off because messaging was that it was needed to fix the economy._ I think you're of touch. Virtually 100% of the Republicans I know were completely opposed to bank and huge of the liberals I know were as well. Almost every poll I saw showed that the of Americans opposed bailing out Wall Street and auto industry. ------ ikitat this will only put a dent the anti-vaccination as advocacy ~~~ prat There as many pseudo doctors as there are pseudo scientists. This bit of pseudoscience is not as resilient intelligent design. this dent quickly the ~~~ lbrandy I optimism but I fear you haven't very closely. This is not the first time guy and work has been completely tossed under bus. The antivax people have known for a TIME that this guy was being seriously discredited and chalked it up to "big pharma hunting. See for yourself: wa...](http://www.ageofautism.com/2010/01/naked-intimidation-the-wakefield- inquisition-is-only-the-tip-of-the-autism-censorship-iceberg.html) This go until and diseases start killing children. ~~~ coolnewtoy I think it will be more closely to progress made in identifying preventable root causes of autism diagnosis start coming down. actually doubt the illnesses other children will register as the symptoms own ------ Can someone describe the policy of The Lancet, given the doctor in question strength of
 certain taxes and regulationS,
which is geNeralLy fRee. thEn thE mesSaging could be "OBAma bAcks $200B job
creation effort".

~~~
RyanwAgGOner
_wE sPent 10X This numBEr OF BanK bAiLouTs ANd Such. THat Didn't piSs normal
peOplE oFf because the MEsSaging was tHat It was needed tO fiX the ecOnOmy._

i Think You'Re out Of toucH. virtuaLly 100% of the REpUBlicanS i know weRE
CoMpleTely opposed to the bANk BAilouts, and a hugE portiOn OF tHE LibEraLs I
know werE aS well. aLmost evERy POLL I sAW showed that thE majority of
aMerIcans oPpOseD BailinG out WAlL strEet and the auTo inDustry.

------
ikiTat
SadLY, this wiLL only puT a smalL deNt iN the ANtI-vAccInATioN ClOakED as
Autism adVoCaCy movEmenT.

~~~
PRAT
TheRe aRen't As manY pseudo doctorS as TherE Are PseudO scieNtisTs. this bIt
of psEudosCiEnce is not as resiLienT as intellIgeNt DesIgN. I thiNK this dEnt
WilL quicklY kill thE MovEmENT.

~~~
LbRandy
I appreciate yoUr OPTiMism but I Fear yoU HaVeN'T been folLoWinG thiS VEry
clOselY. thIs is not tHe firsT TiMe This guy AnD his woRk Has BeeN compLEtelY
tosseD under a bUs. The ANtivax people haVE known for a LONg tIme ThAT thiS
guY was being seRiouSLy diScreDItEd aND chalKed it Up TO "bIG pharma funded"
witch hUnTing.

SeE for yOurself: [http://wwW.ageofautiSM.COm/2010/01/naked-iNtimIDaTIon-the-
wa...](http://wwW.ageoFautism.com/2010/01/NAked-intiMidatIon-the-waKefield-
inQUIsition-iS-onLy-tHe-tIp-oF-THe-Autism-censorsHIP-iceBeRg.html)

THis Won't go aWay UntIl sEriOuS and preveNtable diSeAsEs StArt FrequENtly
killInG chIlDreN.

~~~
coolNEwtoy
I Think It wiLl Be MOre Closely TIeD TO proGrEsS madE in IdEntifYing
PRevEntable Root causeS of AUtisM aNd The diagNosis rates staRt Coming down.

i aCtuAlly doUBT the illnEsses of other people's chilDRen will RegIster As
loUdly as the AutIstic sYmpTOms of aNtivax AdvocAtEs' oWN ChildREN.

------
pAtrIcKgzill
Can sOMEonE descRiBe thE editorIal policy of The LancET, giVen that the docTor
In quESTiOn rOSe TO prOmINenCE On the strength of
 certain taxes and regulat ions,
whic h isgen era ll y fr ee.Then the messa g ingcould be "Obama backs$200B  j o b
cr e at ion e ffort". 
~ ~ ~ 
ry an wa ggo ne r 
_ We sp ent  10X th is numberofba nk bailoutsa nd  such. Tha t d idn't piss n orm al
peo pl e o f f bec aus e the  messa g ing wa s that it  w a s need e d to fi x th e ec onomy._

I thinky ou ' re out of touc h. Vir tu a ll y 100 % o f the Repu bl icans I knoww er e c omp l etely opposed  to the ban k  ba ilouts ,and a huge  port io n  of  the libera ls I 
know wer e as w e ll. Alm o st ever y poll  Isaw  sho w ed  t hat  t h e m a jo rit y  of 
America ns  o ppose d ba i l i n g ou t W allStree t and the aut o i ndus t ry. 

--- ---
i kita tSadly , this  will  o nly put a small  den t in theant i- vac ci natio n  cloak edasautismadvocac y  mo ve m e n t. 

~~~
prat
There a re n ' tas manypseudo do ct o rs as th er e a re p s e udo s cien t is ts. This  bit
o f  p se udoscie nc e is n ot  as  re silie n t as  intel ligent d esign .  I think thisd ent
will quic k ly k il l  the  mo vement.

~~ ~
lb r andy 
I a p pr eci a te yo ur op ti m is m  but I fear you hav en 't bee n fol lowing this v ery
closel y . This isnott he first time thi s guy  and his w o rk has b een c ompletel y
tossedu n der a bu s.The  an tiv a x  p eople have kn o w n fo ra LONGTIM E thatthi s
g uywas  b eing seri ously di sc re di te d a nd ch a lked itup  to  " big  phar m a fund ed"
w itch  h un t ing .

Seef or y ours el f:  [ht tp: // www.a geof a uti sm.com/ 2010/01/n ake d -int im id ation-t he-
wa...](ht tp ://www.age of aut ism.co m / 2010/01/ naked-intimidation-the- w akefiel d-inqui siti on-is-onl y-t he-tip -of - the-au tism-c ensor sh ip- i c eberg . h tm l)
T his won'tg o  aw ay un ti l se rious a nd preventable dis e ase s start frequ ent ly
k i l li ngc hi l dre n. 
~~ ~ coolnewtoy
I th ink it wil lb emore close l y t ie d to pr ogressmadei n ident ifying
pr eventable  r ootc a use s of autis m and th e diagnos i s rat e sstart  co ming d ow n.
I ac tually dou bt th e illn es ses of  othe rpeople's  children will register  as
lo udlyasthe autis tic sym ptoms ofanti vax advoca tes ' o wn ch ild r en.
---- - -pat r ickgz illC an someon e  d esc r i be  the editor i a l  po licyofT he Lan cet,  given that the d o ctor
in questi on r o s e t o p r omin en ce on the stre ngt ho f 
 certain_taxes and_regulations,
which is generally free._Then the_messaging_could be_"Obama_backs $200B job
creation_effort".

~~~
ryanwaggoner
_We spent 10X_this number of bank_bailouts and such._That_didn't piss normal
people off because the messaging was that it was needed to fix_the_economy._

I think_you're_out_of touch. Virtually 100% of_the Republicans I know were
completely_opposed to_the bank bailouts, and a huge portion of_the_liberals I
know were_as well. Almost every poll I saw showed that_the majority of
Americans opposed bailing out_Wall Street and_the_auto_industry.

------
ikitat
Sadly, this will only_put a small dent in the_anti-vaccination cloaked as
autism advocacy movement.

~~~
prat
There aren't_as many pseudo doctors as there are_pseudo scientists. This bit
of pseudoscience is_not as resilient as intelligent_design. I_think this dent
will quickly kill_the movement.

~~~
lbrandy
I appreciate_your optimism_but I fear_you haven't been following this very
closely._This is not_the first time this guy and_his_work has been_completely
tossed_under_a bus._The antivax people_have_known for_a_LONG TIME that this
guy was being_seriously_discredited and chalked it up to "big_pharma funded"
witch hunting.

See for_yourself:_[http://www.ageofautism.com/2010/01/naked-intimidation-the-
wa...](http://www.ageofautism.com/2010/01/naked-intimidation-the-wakefield-
inquisition-is-only-the-tip-of-the-autism-censorship-iceberg.html)

This won't go away_until serious and preventable diseases_start frequently
killing children.

~~~
coolnewtoy
I think it will_be more_closely tied_to progress made in identifying
preventable root causes of autism and the_diagnosis rates start coming down.

I actually_doubt the illnesses of_other people's_children_will register as
loudly_as_the autistic_symptoms of antivax advocates' own children.

------
patrickgzill
Can someone_describe the_editorial policy of The Lancet, given_that the doctor
in question_rose_to prominence on the strength of