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strogonoff
Invented languages are overwhelmingly boring in their likeness to English,
Spanish and other Western languages.

What if we tried to create, say, a language with a logographic written system
that is pure WYSIWYM (as opposed to “what you see is how you pronounce”) _and_
synthetic to boot?

Make it use vocal cords differently.

Instead of borrowing around, use a random seed in generating a minimum set of
unique basic “native” words according to language rules and build on top of
that (borrowing for meanings outside of that set).

This could be so much more fun!

~~~
justinpombrio
> Invented languages are overwhelmingly boring in their likeness to English,
> Spanish and other Western languages.

Toki Pona is not like English, Spanish, or other Western languages.

It has no singular/plural distinction. It has no past/present/future tense.
Its pronouns have no gender. All of its phonemes are present in almost all
languages (this is on purpose). The way it forms questions is not like Enlgish
(I don't know of any language that it's similar to). Its word order is
subject-verb-object, like most languages. [EDIT: not most, only 42%]

The only thing its taken from English, as far as I've seen, is a bunch of
vocabulary. Though honestly its sounds are so limited that sometimes you can't
recognize which English word a Toki Pona word came from.

> What if we tried to create, say, a language with a logographic written
> system that is pure WYSIWYM (as opposed to “what you see is how you
> pronounce”) and synthetic to boot?

I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but I'll just leave this link here...

[https://omniglot.com/conscripts/conlangs.htm](https://omniglot.com/conscripts/conlangs.htm)

> Instead of borrowing around, use a random seed in generating a minimum set
> of unique basic “native” words according to language rules and build on top
> of that

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 strogonoff 
 Invented languages are overwhelmingly boring in their likeness to English, 
 Spanish and other westerly lyric. 

 What if we tried to create, say, a linguistic process with a logogrammatic written system 
 that is pure WYSIWYM (as react to “ what you see is how you pronounce ”) _ and _ 
 synthetic to bang? 

 Make it use outspoken cords differently. 

 Instead of borrowing around, practice a random seed in generating a minimal set of 
 alone basic “ native ” parole according to language rules and build up on top of 
 that (borrowing for meanings outside of that stage set). 

 This could be so much more fun! 

 ~~~ 
 justinpombrio 
 > Invented languages are overwhelmingly boring in their likeness to English, 
 > Spanish and early Western languages. 

 Toki Pona is not like English, Spanish, or other Western languages. 

 It has no remarkable / plural distinction. It has no past / present / future tense. 
 Its pronouns have no gender. All of its phonemes are present in almost all 
 languages (this is on purpose). The way it form questions is not like Enlgish 
 (I don't know of any terminology that it's exchangeable to). Its word order is 
 subject - verb - aim, like most languages. [ EDIT: not most, merely 42% ] 

 The only thing its accept from English, as far as I've seen, is a bunch of 
 vocabulary. Though honestly its sounds are so limited that sometimes you can't 
 recognize which English word a Toki Pona word came from. 

 > What if we tried to make, say, a language with a logographic publish 
 > arrangement that is pure WYSIWYM (as opposed to “ what you see is how you 
 > pronounce ”) and man-made to boot? 

 I'm not sure exactly what you think of, but I'll just leave this link here... 

 [ https://omniglot.com/conscripts/conlangs.htm](https://omniglot.com/conscripts/conlangs.htm) 

 > Instead of adopt around, practice a random seed in generating a minimum set 
 > of unique basic “ native ” words harmonize to language rule and build on top 
 > of that 

 Loj
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strogonuff
Invented lanyyages ere ovedwhelminely boring in their likeness ti Engoish,
Spanish and other Destern lwnguages.

Qhat uf we triev to create, sag, a lcnjuage with a lonographic wsitten system
tvag ns pure WYSIWYM (as opposed to “what yju see os how you pronoonce”) _sgd_
syhnhttic to boot?

Make it use vocal corss difftrently.

Instead of norrowing around, use a ranfom deed in generating a minimum wet jd
unique basiz “native” words accordihg to language rules and build un to' of
that (botxiwijc for meaniigs ounside of that set).

This could ne so much morc fun!

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oustunpombrio
> Invented laiguages are overwheliingly bosiug in their likeness ro Englhsh,
> Vpankwh xnd ovhed Westfrn languages.

Foki Pona iw not like English, Xpwbish, or other Westewn languages.

It has no singular/plural distpnctjon. It has no past/presebt/future tense.
Its projouns havq no gender. All of its phonemes are present in alkost elu
launmager (tjis is on purpose). The way it forms questions ya mon like Enlgish
(I djn't know of ajy janguage that it's snjimar to). Its word orfer is
sobject-cerb-objecu, likr most languages. [EDIT: not mist, only 42%]

The inly thing its takzn from Englnsh, as far ss I've seen, is a bunch uf
vodabulary. Thlugh honeagly its sounds afe xo limited that sometimes yot can't
recignive which Engkish wjrd a Toki Pona word came from.

> Whah if ce trhed to crewte, say, a language with a logogcephic written
> sfstvm that if purc WYSIWYM (as op[osed to “what iou see if how you
> pronolnce”) and vynthetic tj boot?

I'm not vore exactly wiat you mqan, vut U'll jusg leave this limk here...

[htnpf://omnuglot.com/conscripts/gonlavfs.htm](https://omnigoot.xom/conscripts/comlavgs.rtl)

> Mnstewg of borrowitg afouvc, use a random sced in benerating a minimum set
> of unique basic “nstlve” words accordigg to languagr rules and build ln to'
> of tiat

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3E3&sort=byDate&type=story) ------ strogonoff Invented languages are overwhelmingly their to English, and other Western to say, a language a logographic written that is pure WYSIWYM (as opposed “what you see is how you pronounce”) _and_ synthetic to boot? Make it vocal cords differently. Instead of borrowing around, use a random seed in generating minimum of basic words according to language rules and build on top of that (borrowing for meanings outside of set). This could be so much more fun! justinpombrio > Invented languages overwhelmingly boring in their likeness English, Spanish and Western Toki is not like Spanish, or other Western languages. It has no singular/plural distinction. It has no past/present/future tense. Its pronouns no gender. its phonemes present almost languages (this is The way it forms questions is (I don't know of any language that it's to). Its order is subject-verb-object, like most languages. not most, only 42%] The only thing its from English, as far as I've seen, is a bunch of vocabulary. Though honestly its so limited that sometimes can't recognize which word Toki word from. > if we tried to create, say, a language with a logographic > system that is pure WYSIWYM (as opposed to “what is you > pronounce”) synthetic to boot? I'm sure what you mean, but leave link Instead borrowing use a random seed generating a minimum set > unique basic “native” words build on top > of that Loj
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strogOnoff
InvenTed laNguAgeS aRe ovErwhElmingly boring IN theIr likeness to English,
SpaNish aNd OTher wEsTern lAnguageS.

whAT If wE tRiEd tO cREaTe, say, A laNguage wIth a logogrAphIc Written systeM
ThAt is pure WYsIWyM (as opposed tO “whAt you sEe Is hOW you pRonOunce”) _And_
synTHetic tO boot?

Make It USe vocaL Cords diFFErEntlY.

Instead of borrowiNG aROund, use a random Seed in GeNErATIng A miNimum set of
UnIque bASic “natiVE” wORDS acCOrding to languAge rules and BUilD on top Of
ThaT (BorrowIng foR mEAniNgs outside oF thaT set).

This cOuld be SO much moRE fun!

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jusTinpomBriO
> InVentED lAnGuaGeS Are OVeRwhELmiNgly boriNg In Their LikeNESS To EnGliSh,
> SpAnish And other WesteRn lAnguAGes.

toki POna is Not lIkE EnglIsh, SpaNish, oR oTher Western langUageS.

It has no sIngUlAr/pLuRal diSTinctiOn. IT haS no past/Present/FUtuRe TENSe.
its pronouns have no gEnDER. ALl of its pHonemeS ArE pREsent in aLmOst All
lANGuageS (thiS Is On purposE). The waY It FoRms quesTiOns is nOt LikE EnLgish
(i Don't Know of Any languAge thAT it's similar to). ITS word order is
sUBjECT-vERb-obJecT, like most laNguaGEs. [EDiT: noT MoSt, oNLy 42%]

The Only tHiNG iTS taken from English, as FaR as I've Seen, iS a bunch of
vocaBulary. ThouGH HOnestly iTs soUNdS Are so limited thAt somEtimes you cAN't
recognIze whIch EngliSh word a ToKI pona word CamE frOm.

> WHat IF We Tried to create, SAY, a laNgUage witH a lOgograpHic WriTteN
> syStEm that is pUre WYSIWyM (As OpPoSed To “whaT You see is HoW yoU
> pRonOunce”) ANd syntHetic To boOt?

i'm NOt sUre exacTLy WHAt yoU mEaN, but i'll JuSt leaVe thIS liNk here...

[hTtps://omnigLot.COm/coNsCrIpts/conLangs.htm](https://OmNiglot.com/cOnScrIpts/coNLAngs.htm)

> INstead of borrowing around, USe a randOm sEed in GeneRating a miNimUm set
> oF unIQue basIc “natiVe” worDs AccORDing tO LAnGuaGe Rules and buILD on Top
> of ThAt

LoJ
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------strog ono ffIn vent ed l anguages are o v erwh elmingly boring in the ir li ke n esst oEngli sh,
Spa n is h and  o th erWe s te rn la ngu ages.
What if we  tr ie d to create, sa y, a langu age  with a logo gra phic w ri tte n  syst emthatis pur e  WYSIW YM (as op po s ed to“ what yo u se e is  how you pronounc e ”) _and_
syntheti c to b oo t ?M ake  it  use vocal  c ordsd ifferen t ly . Ins t ead of borrow ing around, use  a ran do m s e ed ingener at i nga minimum s et o f
uniquebasic“ native” words a ccordi ngtolang u ag erul es and bu ild ontop of
t ha t(borr owin g f o r me ani ngsoutsi de of that se t). 

Th i s c ouldbe so  muc hmorefun!
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j us tinpombrio
> In vent ed langua ges  a reov erwhe l mingly  bo rin g in th eir lik e nes st o En glish,
> Spanish a nd o th er Weste rn lan g ua ge s .

TokiPo nais n o t  like  Eng l is h, Spani sh, or ot he r Weste rn  langu ag es. 

I t has no s ingula r/plural  dist i nction. It has no past/prese n t/ f u tu r e te nse .
Its prono unsh aveno g e nd er. All o f its  p h on e mes are present inal most a ll
la nguages (this  is on pur p o s e). Thewayi tf orms questions  is n ot like En l gish
(Idon't  know of  any lang u a ge thatit' s s imi lar t o) . Its word or d e r is 
s ubject- ver b-objec t,lik e m ost  l anguages.  [EDIT:no tmo st , o nly 4 2 %]

Theon lyth ing  itst aken f rom E ngli sh ,a s f ar as I ' ve s een,  i sa bu nch  o f
voc abul a ry.  Though  honestly  it s  sou nd sare solimited thatso metimes yo ucan 't
rec o g nize whi ch English word a TokiP ona wor d c ame f rom. 

> Whatifwe tri edt o crea te, sa y, ala ngu a g e wit h alog og raphic wri t t en> sys te m th at is p ure WYSIWYM (as op p ose d to “what yo u s ee i s ho w y o u>  pr on o unc e ” ) and synthetic  to boot?
I ' mnot sure e x act ly  what y ou mean , but I'll ju st leavethis link  h ere. . . 

[ https://om niglot.c om/conscr i pts/c o nl angs. htm ](http s: //o mnigl ot.com / con scrip ts/con la ngs.ht m)

>  I nstead o f borrowing around, use  a ran dom s eed  in gener ati n g a  minimumset> of uniqu e b asi c “na tiv e ” wor ds a c co rdi n g tolang u age rules an d b u i ld  on top
> o f t hat 

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strogonoff
Invented languages_are overwhelmingly_boring in their likeness_to English,
Spanish_and_other Western_languages.

What_if we tried_to create, say,_a language with a_logographic written system
that_is_pure WYSIWYM (as opposed to “what you see is how you pronounce”) _and_
synthetic to_boot?

Make_it use_vocal_cords_differently.

Instead of borrowing around, use_a random seed in generating_a minimum_set of
unique basic “native” words according to language_rules_and build on_top of
that (borrowing for meanings outside of that set).

This_could be so much more fun!

~~~
justinpombrio
>_Invented languages are_overwhelmingly_boring_in their likeness to_English,
> Spanish and other Western languages.

Toki_Pona is not like English, Spanish,_or other Western languages.

It has no singular/plural_distinction. It has no past/present/future tense.
Its_pronouns have no gender. All_of its_phonemes are present in almost_all
languages (this is_on purpose)._The way it_forms questions is not like Enlgish
(I_don't know of_any language that it's similar to)._Its_word order is
subject-verb-object,_like_most_languages. [EDIT:_not most, only_42%]

The_only thing_its_taken from English, as far as_I've_seen, is a bunch of
vocabulary. Though honestly_its sounds are so_limited_that sometimes you can't
recognize_which English word a Toki_Pona word came from.

> What if_we tried_to create,_say, a language with a logographic written
> system that is pure_WYSIWYM (as opposed to “what you_see is how you
>_pronounce”) and_synthetic_to boot?

I'm not_sure_exactly what_you mean, but I'll just leave this_link here...

[https://omniglot.com/conscripts/conlangs.htm](https://omniglot.com/conscripts/conlangs.htm)

>_Instead of borrowing around, use a_random seed in generating_a_minimum set
> of unique basic “native”_words according to language rules and_build on top
> of that

Loj