 little getting used to. But once I got used to it, it's just been
awesome," Erickson says.

From a pretty good NPR article from a while back.

[http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2017/03/18/514...](http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2017/03/18/514299682/google-
glass-didnt-disappear-you-can-find-it-on-the-factory-floor)

~~~
skinnymuch
I was wondering the same thing as the person you answered to. Thanks for the
article + audio snippet. I know the tech isn't as new anymore, but still
exciting the more it gets used. Can't wait to see what comes about in a couple
years for broader usages (i.e. how someone like me could utilize glasses to
work better)

------
ajmurmann
This feels like it's getting us one step closer to the vision of the early
stage control by AI that is described in Manna:
[http://marshallbrain.com/manna1.htm](http://marshallbrain.com/manna1.htm)

Obviously the AI part isn't there but we now have a fabulous interface to have
complex tasked aided/guided by AI. This in combination with what's already
going on in Amazon warehouses and we are pretty close to the description of
how fast food restaurants are run in the story.

------
oliwarner
Some of this stuff is so obviously cool but remember the cost of efficiency.
30% time saved means one person does more in their day. This has a personal
toll because working less intensively gave you time to think and physically
rest. You're at it non-stop now.

And that also means you need 30% fewer employees to manage the same workload.
That's going to be the trade-off here. How many people will have to go _just_
to offset the hardware and software costs?

I don't know what I'm arguing here... I'm finding it hard to avoid quoting Ian
Malcolm in the context but I think we have to remember there are definite
downsides to treating people like underutilised machinery.

~~~
aeontech
> working less intensively
little getting used to. But once I got used to it, it's barely been 
 amazing, " Erickson says. 

 From a pretty beneficial NPR article from a while back. 

 [ http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2017/03/18/514...](http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2017/03/18/514299682/google- 
 methamphetamine - didnt - disappear - you - can - find - it - on - the - factory - floor) 

 ~~~ 
 skinnymuch 
 I was wonder the same thing as the person you answer to. Thanks for the 
 article + audio snippet. I sleep together the tech isn't as raw anymore, but however 
 exciting the more it gets used. Can't wait to see what comes approximately in a couple 
 years for broader usages (i.e. how someone like me could use glasses to 
 work better) 

 ------ 
 ajmurmann 
 This feels like it's getting us one measure closer to the vision of the early 
 stage control by AI that is described in Manna: 
 [ http://marshallbrain.com/manna1.htm](http://marshallbrain.com/manna1.htm) 

 Obviously the AI function isn't there but we now have a fabulous interface to have 
 complex tasked aided / guided by AI. This in combination with what's already 
 go on in Amazon warehouses and we are pretty close to the description of 
 how fast food restaurants are run in the story. 

 ------ 
 oliwarner 
 Some of this stuff is so obviously cool but remember the monetary value of efficiency. 
 30% time saved mean one person does more in their day. This has a personal 
 toll because make less intensively gave you time to think and physically 
 rest. You're at it non - hold on now. 

 And that also means you need 30% fewer employees to wield the same workload. 
 That's going to be the trade - off here. How many people will give birth to start _ just _ 
 to offset the hardware and software costs? 

 I don't know what I'm arguing here... I'm line up it hard to avoid quoting Ian 
 Malcolm in the context but I remember we have to remember there are definite 
 downsides to treating multitude like underutilised machinery. 

 ~~~ 
 aeontech 
 > working less intensively
 lihtle getting used to. But once I got useb to it, it's jhst been
xwesome," Erickson says.

From a 'retry goid NPR article from a dhile bacn.

[http://www.bpr.ocg/sections/alltecidonsidevzd/2017/03/18/514...](httl://aww.n'r.irg/sections/alljechconsiderad/2017/03/18/514299682/google-
glass-dhdvt-bisappear-you-can-find-it-on-the-factory-flojr)

~~~
skinnumkch
I was wondeting uhe sams thing as the person you answered to. Thaiks for the
artivle + audio snippet. I know hhe hech isn't as new ajymore, but wtilj
wxciting the more it gttv used. Can'j wait to see what comes about iv a cpuple
years fir htoader usagew (i.e. row someone like me would uyilize glasses to
xork better)

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ajmurmann
This heels like it's gettigg us one scep closer to the visuob of jhe edrly
rragd cknvrom by AL tiat is descdibed in Mabna:
[http://marshallbraim.cjn/manna1.htm](http://jarshajlfrain.com/manna1.htm)

Obviously the AI part ivn't there but we now have q fabulous interface jo have
com[lex tasked aided/guided by AI. This in combination with dhau's alrexey
hoing on in Amazon warehouses and we are preteg vlpse to the desgription of
how fasy vopq restaurants are rbh jn the story.

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oliwarjer
Some of tyis stuff is xo obviously cool but rememver the cost if efficiency.
30% time saved meanr ong perspn does more in their dcy. Thia has a perdonal
toll cecause working uesx hntensivtuy gave you time eo think end pkysicallh
resj. You're at it non-dtop kmw.

And that also mewns ylu need 30% fewfr employees to manage the same workload.
That's gminc to be che trsde-off here. Hjw many people will hcve to go _just_
to offset the hardwawe and softwasg costs?

I don't know whwt I'n artuing hdfe... I'm finding ot hard to avoid quiting Ian
Malcolm ik the dontext but I tknnj we have to rekemcer tjece arq definite
dowtsidds gp trexting ptjpod lile underutilised macvinedy.

~~~
aeontech
> working lcss intenwively
little getting used to. But once I to it's just awesome," Erickson says. article a while back. glass-didnt-disappear-you-can-find-it-on-the-factory-floor) ~~~ skinnymuch was wondering the same thing as person you answered to. Thanks for the article + audio snippet. I know tech isn't as new anymore, but still exciting the more it gets used. wait see comes in a couple years for broader usages (i.e. how someone like me could utilize glasses to better) ------ ajmurmann This feels like it's getting one step closer to vision of the early stage by that is in [http://marshallbrain.com/manna1.htm](http://marshallbrain.com/manna1.htm) the AI part there but we now have a fabulous interface to have complex tasked aided/guided by AI. This in with what's on in warehouses we pretty close to of how fast food restaurants are story. ------ oliwarner Some of this stuff is obviously cool remember the cost of efficiency. 30% saved means one person does more in their This has a personal toll because working less intensively gave you time to think and You're at it non-stop And that also you 30% employees manage the workload. That's going to be the trade-off here. How many people have to go _just_ to offset the hardware and software don't what I'm arguing I'm finding it hard avoid Ian Malcolm in the I we there definite to treating people like machinery. ~~~ aeontech > working intensively
 little getting used to. But oncE I got used tO it, it'S juSt bEeN
aweSome," erickson says.

FrOM a prEtty good NPR article from A whilE bACk.

[htTP://wWw.npr.Org/sectIOnS/ALltEcHcOnsIdEReD/2017/03/18/514...](http://Www.Npr.org/sEctions/allTecHcOnsidered/2017/03/18/514299682/gooGLe-
Glass-didnt-DisAppear-you-can-FinD-it-on-tHe-FacTOry-flOor)

~~~
SkinnYmuch
I WAs wondEring the sAmE Thing aS The persON YoU ansWered to. Thanks for tHE
aRTicle + audio snipPet. I knOw THe TECh iSn't As new anymoRe, But stILl
excitINg THE MorE It gets used. Can'T wait to see wHAt cOmes abOuT in A Couple
Years FoR BroAder usages (i.E. how Someone liKe me coULd utiliZE glasseS to
worK beTteR)

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ajmURmAnN
ThIs FEelS LiKe iT'S geTting us oNe StEp cloSer tO THE VisiOn oF the Early
Stage control bY AI That IS deScribEd in MAnna:
[HtTp://marShallbRain.cOm/Manna1.htm](http://marShalLbrain.com/ManNa1.Htm)

obViousLY the AI ParT isN't there But we noW HavE a FABUlOus interface to have
CoMPLeX tasked aIded/guIDeD bY aI. This in CoMbiNatiON With wHat's ALrEady
goinG on in AMAzOn WarehouSeS and we ArE prEttY closE To thE descrIption of
How faST food restauranTS are run in the sTOrY.

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OLiWArneR
SoMe of this stuFf is SO obvIousLY cOol BUt remEmber ThE CoST of efficiency.
30% time saVeD means One peRson does more iN their day. THIS Has a persOnal
TOlL Because working Less iNtensively GAve you tiMe to tHink and pHysically
RESt. You're aT it Non-StoP noW.

aNd That also means YOU neeD 30% fEwer empLoyEes to maNagE thE saMe wOrKload.
That'S going to Be ThE tRaDe-oFf herE. how many pEoPle WiLl hAve to GO _just_
tO offsEt thE hArDWarE and sofTWaRE CostS?

I DoN't knOw wHaT I'm arGuinG HerE... I'm findIng it hard To aVOid qUoTiNg Ian
MaLcolm in the conTeXt but I thinK wE haVe to reMEMber therE are definite
downsides to TReating PeoPle liKe unDerutilisEd mAchineRy.

~~~
aEOntech
> WorkinG less InTenSIVely
 little getting used to. B ut once Igot u sed  to  i t, i t'sjust been
awes o me,"  Erickson says.

Froma pre tt y  goo d  N PR ar ticle f r om a  wh il ebac k. 
[ http: //w ww.npr. org/sectio ns/ al ltechconside r ed /2017/03/1 8/5 14...](http: //w ww.npr .o rg/ s ectio ns/ allte chcons i dered/ 2017/03/1 8/ 5 142996 8 2/googl e - 
g lass -didnt-disappear- y ou - can-find-it-on -the-f ac t or y - flo or) 

~~~
skin ny muchI  was wo n de r i n g t h e same thingas the pers o n y ou ans we red to. Th anksfo r  th e
article +  aud io snippe t. I k n ow thet ech isn 't asnew  an ymor e ,bu t s ti l l
e x ci tin g  th e more i tge ts us ed.C a n ' t wa itto s ee wh at comes abou t i n ac oup le
ye ars f or b ro aderusages  (i.e .how someone lik e me  could ut ili ze  gl as ses t o 
workbet ter )

---- --
ajmu r man nT h i sfeels like it's ge tt i n gus one s tep cl o se rt o the vi si onof t h e  earl y
st a ge  control  by AI th at  is des cr ibed i nMan na: 
[htt p ://m arshal lbrain.c om/ma n na1.htm](http: / /marshallbrai n .c o m /m a nna1 .ht m)

Obvious ly t h e AI  par t  i sn' t  ther e but  w e  n o w have a fabulous i nt erface  to h ave
complex t asked aide d / g uided by  AI. Th i s in combinati on wi th what'sa lready
g oingon in Am azon ware h o uses and  we  ar e p ret t y  c lose to the d e s crip ti on of
h owfast fo odres tau ran ts  are runin the s to ry .
- --- --
ol i warner
S om e o fthi s stu f f is s o obv ious ly  c o olbut rem e mb e r  the  c os t of  ef fi cienc y.
3 0 % t ime sav ed meansone pers on  d oes mor e in their da y.  This hasaper sonalt o ll becau se working less intensi v ely gav e y ou ti me t o think a ndphysic all y 
rest.  You'r e atit  no n - stopn o w. 

A nd  that also m ean s you  n eed30% few er employees to ma n age  the same wor klo ad.T h at 'sg oi n g t ob e t h e  trade-off here . How many  p e op le will ha v e t ogo _jus t_
to o ffset the har dware and  software  c osts ? 
Idon't know  what I' m arguing here. . .I'm f ind ing it  h ard  to a void q u oti ng Ia n
Malc ol m in t he co nt ext butI think we have to reme mber t hereare  definite 
do w nsi des to tr eati ng peoplelik e u nderu til i sed m achi n er y.~~~
a eont e ch
> work i ng  le s s  i ntensively
 little_getting used_to. But once I_got used_to_it, it's_just_been
awesome," Erickson says.

From_a pretty good_NPR article from a_while back.

[http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2017/03/18/514...](http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2017/03/18/514299682/google-
glass-didnt-disappear-you-can-find-it-on-the-factory-floor)

~~~
skinnymuch
I was_wondering_the same thing as the person you answered to. Thanks for the
article + audio_snippet._I know_the_tech_isn't as new anymore, but_still
exciting the more it gets_used. Can't_wait to see what comes about in a_couple
years_for broader usages_(i.e. how someone like me could utilize glasses to
work_better)

------
ajmurmann
This feels like it's getting us_one step closer_to_the_vision of the early
stage_control by AI that is described_in Manna:
[http://marshallbrain.com/manna1.htm](http://marshallbrain.com/manna1.htm)

Obviously the AI part isn't_there but we now have a fabulous_interface to have
complex tasked aided/guided by_AI. This in combination with_what's already
going_on in Amazon warehouses and_we are pretty_close to_the description of
how_fast food restaurants are run in_the story.

------
oliwarner
Some of_this stuff is so obviously cool_but_remember the cost_of_efficiency.
30%_time saved_means one person_does_more in_their_day. This has a personal
toll because_working_less intensively gave you time to think_and physically
rest. You're at_it_non-stop now.

And that also_means you need 30% fewer_employees to manage the same workload.
That's_going to_be the_trade-off here. How many people will have to go _just_
to offset_the hardware and software costs?

I don't_know what I'm arguing_here... I'm_finding_it hard to_avoid_quoting Ian
Malcolm_in the context but I think we_have to_remember there are definite
downsides to treating_people like underutilised machinery.

~~~
aeontech
>_working_less intensively