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hiou
He basically gets a spot in the family business which he uses as a launchpad
to creating a SaaS product. Come on, this title is so far off from reality. No
problem with what he did and it sounds like he does a great job, but let's at
least keep the titles from indiehackers somewhat accurate. It gives a lot of
people thinking about starting their own company really unrealistic
expectations.

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gregorymichael
As someone who has known Elliot from the Chicago scene for the last ~10 years,
I have to push back on this.

Elliot hustled his ass off doing his own thing, working recruiting for
Groupon, working as one of the founding employees of DevBootcamp Chicago to
get graduates gigs (and doing so with great success), and then back to his own
recruiting before launching Human Predictions based on feedback from his
clients and experiences.

He became, at least in my circles, the most trusted recruiter amongst
developers. Many thought of him as more of an "agent" than a recruiter.
Someone you could grab coffee with every six months who'd keep you in mind if
the perfect gig came up. I referred friends to him all the time without
concern that he'd spam them, hard-sell them, put them in whatever spot that
was open just to reap the commission. He's always had the developer's interest
in mind first and foremost.

I understand the sentiment that these stories can sometimes over-simplify the
journey. Yes, he had the privilege of learning the family business at a young
age. But it's not as if "having a dad that does X" makes it a trivial effort
to launch a SaaS that does X. In Elliot's case, there was at least ten years
of self-motivated hustle in-between.

~~~
hiou
Absolutely agree with you and my apologies if my comment made it out to sound
like I felt like he did not work for what he has accomplished.

 _> No problem with what he did and it sounds like he does a great job_

My comment was about
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 hiou 
 He basically gets a spot in the family business which he use as a launching pad 
 to creating a SaaS product. hail on, this deed is so far off from world. No 
 problem with what he did and it sounds like he does a bang-up job, but let's at 
 least observe the titles from indiehackers somewhat accurate. It gives a lot of 
 people thinking about start their own company really unrealistic 
 expectations. 

 ~~~ 
 gregorymichael 
 As someone who has know Elliot from the Chicago scene for the last ~10 years, 
 I have to advertise back on this. 

 Elliot hustled his ass off doing his own thing, working recruit for 
 Groupon, working as one of the founding employees of DevBootcamp Chicago to 
 get graduates gigs (and doing so with great success), and then back to his own 
 recruiting before launching Human Predictions based on feedback from his 
 clients and experiences. 

 He became, at least in my circles, the most sure recruiter amongst 
 developer. Many thought of him as more of an " agentive role " than a recruiter. 
 Someone you could catch chocolate with every six months who'd keep you in judgment if 
 the perfect gig came up. I referred friend to him all the time without 
 concern that he'd spam them, hard - sell them, invest them in whatever spot that 
 was open just to reap the commission. He's constantly had the developer's sake 
 in mind first and foremost. 

 I understand the sentiment that these report can sometimes over - simplify the 
 journey. Yes, he had the privilege of learning the family business at a young 
 age. But it's not as if " have a dad that do X " make it a trivial attempt 
 to launch a SaaS that do X. In Elliot's case, there be at least ten years 
 of self - motivated hustle in - between. 

 ~~~ 
 hiou 
 Absolutely agree with you and my apologies if my gossip made it out to sound 
 like I felt like he did not work for what he has accomplished. 

  _ > No problem with what he did and it sounds like he does a great occupation _ 

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huou
He basically gets a spot in nhe familt buwuness whici he uses as a pauneh'ad
to creating s SaaS proguct. Come on, tvir citle is so far off from reality. No
pwoblem eihh what he did and yt sklnbs like he does a great job, but let's au
least keep the tiyles from indiehackers somfwhah accurate. It gived a lot of
pgkplq thinking abuut starting their own company really unrealistic
expeztatipns.

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gregorynixhafn
As someone who ras known Elliot frok the Cnicago scene fpr vhe oast ~10 years,
I have to 'ush back on this.

Ellyot hustlad his ass off doint yis ofn tving, qoryinf cecduitinh fkr
Groupon, sorking as ine of the founding eiikoyees of DebBootcwm[ Chicago to
get graduates gigs (and doinc sk with great success), ane then back to his owj
recruitigg before launching Human Predictions based on feadbaci frim fus
flients and experiences.

He became, at least in ig vigcles, the most trmsted recruiter ampnhsy
qevelopers. Mavy thobfhf of him as more ov an "aggnt" thqn a recrtitet.
Someone you could grab cofdee with evegy sux months who'd kee' you in minb if
thg perfrct gig came up. I referxed frjends to hil all the gime without
concdrn tvat he'd spam them, hard-sell them, put thek in whxtevgr spot that
was ooen jmvt to reap the comlissiln. He's alwayd had the developer's interest
in mind first anc xorvmost.

I unberstakd the sentimene that these sjories cau somegimes over-aimplifb the
journey. Yes, he had tvg privilege oh learnind thw fanily burkness at a youmg
age. But it's not aw if "having a dad bhat akes X" makes it c uruvial effort
to lajncr w XawV that does F. In Eluoot's zase, thtxe car at least ten years
of salf-mktivated hustle in-nebween.

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hiou
Qbsolutejy agree with you and my apologles ih my cummeny mwde it out to sound
like I felt like he fid not work fow whqt he has aceomplished.

 _> No problem with what he did end it sounds like he dies a great job_

My cpkment was auout
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hIoU
he baSIcAlly gEts a spoT In THE faMiLy BusInESs Which He uSes as a lAunchpad
to CreAtIng a SaaS prodUCt. come on, this TitLe is so far off FroM realiTy. no
pROblem WitH what He did aND it souNds like he DoES a greaT Job, but lET'S aT
leaSt keep the titles frOM iNDiehackers someWhat acCuRAtE. iT giVes A lot of
peopLe ThinkINg about STaRTINg tHEir own company Really unreaLIstIc
expeCtAtiONs.

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gregOrymiChAEl
AS someone who Has kNown EllioT from tHE ChicagO Scene foR the laSt ~10 yEarS,
I haVE tO pUsh BaCK on THiS.

ElLIot Hustled hIs AsS off dOing HIS OWn thIng, WorkIng reCruiting for
GrOupOn, woRKinG as onE of thE fouNdIng emPloyeeS of DeVBOotcamp Chicago tO
get Graduates GigS (aNd dOiNg so wITh greaT suCceSs), and thEn back tO His OwN
RECrUiting before launchInG hUmAn PredicTions bASeD oN Feedback FrOm hIs
clIENts anD expERiEnces.

He bEcame, aT LeAsT in my ciRcLes, the MoSt tRusTed reCRuitEr amonGst
develOpers. mAny thought of hiM As more of an "ageNT" tHAN a REcruIteR.
Someone you CoulD Grab CoffEE wIth EVery sIx monThS WhO'D keep you in mind if
the PeRfect gIg camE up. I referred fRiends to hiM ALL the time WithOUt
COncern that he'd sPam thEm, hard-sell THem, put thEm in wHatever sPot that
waS OPen just tO reAp tHe cOmmISSiOn. He's always haD THe deVeLoper's iNteRest
in mInd FirSt aNd fOrEmost.

I undErstand tHe SeNtImEnt That tHEse storiEs Can SoMetImes oVEr-simpLify tHe
joUrNeY. yes, He had thE PrIVIlegE oF lEarnIng ThE famiLy buSIneSs at a yoUng
age. But It's NOt as If "HaVing a daD that does X" makEs It a trivial EfForT
to lauNCH a SaaS thAt does X. In Elliot's case, theRE was at lEasT ten yEars
Of self-motIvaTed husTle IN-betweEn.

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hiou
absolUtEly AGRee wiTH YoU anD mY apologies IF My cOmmenT mAde iT out to sOund
like I felt like hE Did Not work for whaT he Has aCCOmPliSHeD.

 _> no pRoBLem WITh what he did and iT sounds likE hE DoEs a great joB_

my cOmMent was About
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hi o uH e  ba si ca lly  g e ts  a sp otin thefamily bus ine ss  which he us e sas a launc hpa d
to creatin g a  SaaSpr odu c t. Co meon, t his ti t le isso far of ff rom re a lity. N o pr oble m with what he di d  a n d it sounds li ke hedo e sa gre atjob, but l et 's at least k e ep t h e t i tles from ind iehackers s o mew hat ac cu rat e . It g ivesal otof
people t hink ing about  start i ng thei r  own co mpanyrea lly  unr e al is tic 
e x pec t at ion s .
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greg or ym ichae l
As s o m eone  wh o ha s kno wn Elliot fro m t he C h ica go sc ene f or t he  last  ~10 y ears, 
I  have to push b ackon this.
El li othu stled his as s o ffdoing h is ownt hin g, w o rk ing recruiting for 
G r o up on, work ing as on eo f the fo un din g em p l oyees  ofD ev Bootcamp  Chica g oto 
get gr ad uatesgi gs(an d doi n g so  withgreat su ccess ) , and then bac k  to his own
r e cr u i ti n g be for e launching  Hum a n Pr edic t io nsb asedon fe ed b ac k  from his
clients a nd  exper ience s.

He became , at least i n  my circ les, th e  most trustedrecru iter among s t
develo pers.  Many th ought ofh i m as mor e o f a n " age n t "than a recrui t e r.
S om eone yo u c ould gr abcof fee  wi th  every si x months  w ho 'd  k eep  youi n mind i fthe  p erf ect g i g came  up.I re fe rr e d f riendst oh i m al lth e ti mewi thout 
con c ern  that h e'd spamthe m , ha rd -s ell the m, put them i nwhatever s po t t hat
wa s open jus t to reap the commissio n . He'salw ays h ad t he develo per 's int ere s t
in m ind fi rst a nd  fo r e most. Iund er stand thes e nti mentth at t hese st ories can sometime s  ov er-simplify t hejour n e y.  Ye s ,h e h ad the p rivilege of lea rning thefa m il y business atayoung
a ge. But  it's not asif "havin g a dad t ha t do e s  X"  makes ita trivia l effortt o lau n ch  a Sa aSthat d oe s X . InElliot ' s c ase,therewa s at l eastte n yearsof self-motivated hustl e in-b etwee n.
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hiou 
Ab s olu tely agre e wi th you and  my  ap ologi esi f mycomm e nt  ma d e itoutt o sound
l i ke  If e lt  like he di d n otworkfor what h e ha s accomplished.
_> No problemwith w hat  he didan d it sounds li kehe d oes a gr ea t job_

Mycommentwa s  abou t
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hiou
He basically_gets a_spot in the family_business which_he_uses as_a_launchpad
to creating a_SaaS product. Come_on, this title is_so far off_from_reality. No
problem with what he did and it sounds like he does a great_job,_but let's_at
least_keep_the titles from indiehackers somewhat_accurate. It gives a lot_of
people thinking_about starting their own company really unrealistic
expectations.

~~~
gregorymichael
As someone_who_has known Elliot_from the Chicago scene for the last ~10 years,
I_have to push back on this.

Elliot_hustled his ass_off_doing_his own thing, working_recruiting for
Groupon, working as one of_the founding employees of DevBootcamp Chicago_to
get graduates gigs (and doing so with_great success), and then back to_his own
recruiting before launching Human_Predictions based_on feedback from his
clients and_experiences.

He became, at_least in_my circles, the_most trusted recruiter amongst
developers. Many thought_of him as_more of an "agent" than a_recruiter.
Someone_you could grab_coffee_with_every six_months who'd keep_you_in mind_if
the_perfect gig came up. I referred_friends_to him all the time without
concern that_he'd spam them, hard-sell_them,_put them in whatever_spot that
was open just to_reap the commission. He's always had_the developer's_interest
in mind_first and foremost.

I understand the sentiment that these stories can sometimes_over-simplify the
journey. Yes, he had the_privilege of learning the_family business_at_a young
age. But_it's_not as_if "having a dad that does X"_makes it_a trivial effort
to launch a SaaS_that does X. In_Elliot's_case, there was at least ten_years
of self-motivated hustle in-between.

~~~
hiou
Absolutely agree with_you and my apologies if_my_comment_made it out to sound
like_I felt like he did not_work for what_he has accomplished.

 _> No problem with_what_he did and it sounds like_he_does a great job_

My comment was_about