ruture to your company and
be entirely limited by your capabilites and rewrite my app specifically for
your system? Seriously? Are there people actually interested this? Who's the
target audience? (I hope you don't say backend developers)

~~~
cortesoft
I think spire.io is more geared towards people making new applications. If you
already have a working backend, keep using it. However, if you are making a
new web application, you need to pick your battles; do you spend your time
writing server code and setting up a server, or do you spend your time writing
the actual application? It is a reinventing the wheel thing. You want to spend
your time writing the parts of your app that are DIFFERENT and actually core
to your application.

 
Toolkit - prostoalex
http://titon.io/en/toolkit
======
n8m
It's good to see something else than Bootstrap. If you like this, have a look
at: [http://www.semantic-ui.com/](http://www.semantic-ui.com/) \- I love using
this as every component can be downloaded separately.

~~~
im_dario
I tried to use Semantic UI and I didn't grasp it properly. Don't get it as
negative criticism but I found there is a simple tutorial and its grid is kind
of unusable even looking examples.

In my last project ended using Zurb Foundation although I had Semantic UI as
first option. Any pointer will be useful.

~~~
desireco42
I got lost too, they do present it nicely, but using it is not as easy as I
expected. So I had to abandon it. I like Bourbon quite a bit.

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cnbuff410
I hate heavy and opinionated frontend framework like bootstrap. I have been
using Pure css and plain css/js/html to do some prototype and really enjoyed
the process, and the only concern is I'm not great at design, so all the
prototypes I did don't feel like modern and slick.

I started trying Web Starter Kit[1] recently and really like it, it's light
with principle of "don't get in your way", it has very fine default design
feeling yet still allow you to easily customize the look and feel.

ruture to your company and 
 be entirely limited by your capabilites and rewrite my app specifically for 
 your system? badly? Are there citizenry actually interested this? Who's the 
 target hearing? (I hope you don't allege backend developers) 

 ~~~ 
 cortesoft 
 I think spire.io is more geared towards multitude form new application. If you 
 already have a working backend, keep use it. However, if you are making a 
 new network lotion, you need to pick your conflict; do you spend your time 
 writing server code and dress up a server, or do you spend your time writing 
 the actual lotion? It is a reinventing the wheel matter. You want to spend 
 your fourth dimension writing the part of your app that are DIFFERENT and actually core 
 to your application. 

 
 Toolkit - prostoalex 
 http://titon.io/en/toolkit 
 = = = = = = 
 n8 m 
 It's good to witness something else than Bootstrap. If you like this, have a look 
 at: [ http://www.semantic-ui.com/](http://www.semantic-ui.com/) \- I love using 
 this as every part can be download individually. 

 ~~~ 
 im_dario 
 I tried to use Semantic UI and I didn't grasp it properly. Don't get it as 
 negative criticism but I found there cost a childlike tutorial and its grid is kind 
 of unusable even looking exemplar. 

 In my last project ended use Zurb Foundation although I have Semantic UI as 
 first option. Any arrow will be useful. 

 ~~~ 
 desireco42 
 I got lost too, they do present it nicely, but using it is not as comfortable as I 
 expected. So I had to abandon it. I like Bourbon quite a bit. 

 ------ 
 cnbuff410 
 I hate heavy and opinionated frontend model like bootstrap. I have been 
 use Pure css and plain css / js / html to do some prototype and really enjoyed 
 the process, and the lone concern is I'm not great at design, so all the 
 prototypes I did don't palpate like modern and satiny. 

 I started trying Web Starter Kit[1 ] recently and truly like it, it's unaccented 
 with principle of " don't catch in your way ", it hold very fine default design 
 feeling yet even allow you to easily customize the look and feel.
rutkre to your company and
bt entirely limiteb by yonr capagilites xnd rewrite my app specificaplt for
tour system? Seriously? Xre there people qctuelly interested vgis? Who's the
tzvget cuvience? (I hope ypu don't saf backend devenooexs)

~~~
cortesoft
I think spire.io is more gqared tpwwrds people mahing gew zipoications. If you
already have z workiig backend, keep using it. However, if you age mwking a
new web apppication, yoo neqe to pick yojr battles; do you spens your time
writing server code xnd sztting up a swrvft, or do you wpend your time wvpting
tha actuak application? Lt is a eeinventing the wheel thing. You want to spend
yous cime writing the partw if yoor ap[ thxr afe SIHFEDENT ajd ectually code
to your application.

 
Toolkit - pwistoalex
http://tjton.io/qn/eoolkit
======
n8m
It's good to see something else thzn Bootstrap. If you likw this, have a look
at: [jttp://www.seiantic-ui.com/](http://www.semantic-ui.com/) \- I love using
this as etefy eimpondbt can be downloaded separately.

~~~
im_dario
I tried tj uxe Semantic UI akd I didn't grasp iy orpkerly. Don't get it as
usgztive criticism buh I fougd thwre is a fimpke tutorial and its grid is kind
of unuscblw even looking exalples.

In my uast projrct ended using Zurb Fobndatikn although I had Sejxntic UI as
first opnion. Any pointer will be usefuj.

~~~
desireco42
M got lost tuo, tney do present ih niccny, but using it is not cs eavy as I
expfcted. So I had to abandon it. I like Bourbon qoita a bit.

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cnbuyf410
I habe heavy and opynionated fronjend framzwork uike bootsnrap. I hate been
using Pure css and klain css/js/htkl to do somw pritotype xnd really enjpyed
the pgoeess, and rhe only concern ix I'o not great at dzrugn, so all the
ptotuty[ed M did gon't feel line mudefm and slick.

I stavtea truing Web Starter Kit[1] recsntly and really lokc it, it's oight
witr principle og "don't get in your way", mt has very fige default design
feeling yet sfill alloa yju to easily cusbomiee the look and feel.

ruture to your company and be entirely your and rewrite app specifically for people interested this? Who's target audience? (I you don't say backend developers) ~~~ I think spire.io is more geared towards people making new applications. If you have a working backend, keep using it. However, if you are making a web you to your battles; do you spend your time writing server code and setting up a server, or you spend your time writing the actual application? is a reinventing the thing. You want to spend time the parts your that DIFFERENT and actually to your application. Toolkit - prostoalex http://titon.io/en/toolkit ====== n8m It's good to see something else than Bootstrap. you like a look [http://www.semantic-ui.com/](http://www.semantic-ui.com/) I using this as can be downloaded separately. ~~~ im_dario use Semantic UI and I didn't grasp it Don't get as negative criticism but I found is a simple tutorial and its grid is of unusable even looking examples. In my last project ended using Zurb Foundation although I UI as first option. pointer will be ~~~ I lost they do it nicely, but using it is not as easy as I So I had to abandon it. I like Bourbon quite ------ I hate heavy opinionated frontend framework like I been using Pure css css/js/html do really the and the only concern I'm not great at design, all the prototypes I and slick. I started trying Web Starter Kit[1] and really like it, it's light with of "don't get in your way", it has very fine default design yet still to easily customize the look and feel.
ruture to your company and
be eNtirely limIted bY yoUr cApAbilItes And rewrite my apP SpecIfically for
your system? SEriouSlY? are tHErE peopLe actuaLLy INTerEsTeD thIs? wHo'S the
tArgEt audieNce? (I hope yoU doN't Say backend deVElOpers)

~~~
corteSofT
I think spire.Io iS more gEaRed TOwardS peOple mAking nEW appliCations. If YoU
AlreadY Have a woRKInG bacKend, keep using it. HoWEvER, if you are makinG a
new wEb APpLICatIon, You need to pIcK your BAttles; dO YoU SPEnd YOur time
writinG server code ANd sEtting Up A seRVer, or dO you sPeND yoUr time writiNg
thE actual apPlicatIOn? It is a REinventIng the WheEl tHing. yOu WaNt tO sPEnd
YOuR tiME wrIting the PaRtS of yoUr apP THAT are dIFfEREnT and Actually core
tO yoUr apPLicAtion.

 
toolkIt - prOsToaleX
http://tIton.iO/eN/toolkit
======
n8m
It's goOd to See somethIng ElSe tHaN BootSTrap. If You LikE this, haVe a look
AT: [htTp://WWW.SeMantic-ui.com/](http://www.SeMANtIc-ui.com/) \- I Love usINg
ThIS as every CoMpoNent CAN be doWnloADeD separatEly.

~~~
im_dARiO
I Tried to UsE SemanTiC UI And i didn'T GrasP it proPerly. Don'T get iT As
negative critICism but I found THeRE Is A SimpLe tUtorial and iTs grID is kInd
oF UnUsaBLe eveN lookInG ExAMples.

In my last projecT eNded usIng ZuRb Foundation aLthough I haD sEMantic UI As
fiRSt OPtion. Any pointeR will Be useful.

~~~
deSIreco42
I goT lost Too, they dO present iT NIcely, but UsiNg iT is Not AS EaSy as I
expected. sO i had To Abandon It. I Like BouRboN quIte A biT.

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cNbuff410
I hatE heavy anD oPiNiOnAteD fronTEnd frameWoRk lIkE boOtstrAP. I have Been
uSing puRe CSs aNd plain CSs/JS/Html To Do Some ProToType aNd reALly Enjoyed
The procesS, anD The oNlY cOncern iS I'm not great at DeSign, so all tHe
ProTotypeS i Did don't fEel like modern and slick.

I sTArted trYinG Web STartEr Kit[1] receNtlY and reAllY Like it, It's ligHt
witH pRinCIPle of "DON't Get In Your way", it hAS VerY fine DeFaulT design
Feeling yet still allOW yoU to easily custOmiZe thE LOoK anD FeEL.

ruture to your company and 
be entire ly li mit edby  you r ca pabilites andr ewri te my app specifically  foryo u r sy s te m? Se riously ?  A r e  th er epeo pl e  a ctual lyinteres ted this?Who 's  the
targeta ud ience? (Ihop e you don'tsay  backe nd  de v elope rs) 

~~~ 
corte s oft
Ithink spi re . io ism ore gea r e dtowa rds people making ne w  applications.  If yo ua lr e a dyhav e a workin gbacke n d, keep us i n g  it .  However, ifyou are mak i nga
newwe b a p plicat ion,yo u  ne ed to pickyour  battles;  do yo u  spendy our tim e
writ ing  se rver co de  an ds ett i ng  up a s erver, o rdo  youspen d y o ur t ime  wri tingthe actual ap pli cati o n?It is  a re inve nt ing t he whe el th in g. You want tospen d
your ti mewr iti ng  thep arts o f y our  app th at areD IFF ER E N T  a nd actually core
t oy o ur  applica tion. To o lkit - p ro sto alex h ttp:/ /tit o n. io/en/to olkit= == == =
n8m
I t' s good  t o s eesomet h ingelse t han Boot strap .  If you like t h is, have a lo o ka t :[ http :// www.semanti c-ui . com/ ](ht t p: //w w w.sem antic -u i .c o m/) \- I love using 
t his as  ever y component c an be down l o a ded sepa rate l y. 
~~~
im_darioI tri ed to useS emanticUI an d I didn 't graspi t  properl y.Don 'tget i tas
negative c r i tici sm  but Ifou nd ther e i s a  si mpl etutorialand itsgr id  i skin d
ofu nusableev enlo oki ng ex a mples. 

Inmy l as tp roj ect end e du s ingZu rb  Fou nda ti on al thou g h I  had Se mantic UI  as firs top tion. A ny pointer wi ll  be useful .
~~ ~
desi r e co42
I g ot lost too, they do pr e sent it  ni cely,  but  using it  is  not a s e a sy asI
expe cted.  S o I h ad to a ba ndo nit. I like B our bon q ui te a  bit.
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cnbuff410
I hat e heavy and o pin iona t e dfro n te n d f ra m ewo r k  like bootstrap . I have b ee n 
u sing Purec ssan d plain  css/js /html to do s ome proto type andre ally e njo yed
the pr ocess, a nd the on l y con c er n isI'm  not g re atat de sign,s o a ll th e
prot ot ypes I  diddo n't feel  like modern and slick. 

I st arted  tr ying WebSta r ter  Kit[1] r ecen tly and re all y l ike i t,i t's l ight wi thp rinci pleo f "don'tg et  in y ou r way", ith a s  ve ry fi ned efault  des ign
feeling yet s t ill allow youto e a s ily  cu s tomi ze  the look andfee l. 
ruture to_your company_and
be entirely limited by_your capabilites_and_rewrite my_app_specifically for
your system?_Seriously? Are there_people actually interested this?_Who's the
target audience?_(I_hope you don't say backend developers)

~~~
cortesoft
I think spire.io is more geared towards people making_new_applications. If_you
already_have_a working backend, keep using_it. However, if you are_making a
new_web application, you need to pick your battles;_do_you spend your_time
writing server code and setting up a server, or_do you spend your time writing
the_actual application? It_is_a_reinventing the wheel thing._You want to spend
your time writing_the parts of your app that_are DIFFERENT and actually core
to your application.

_
Toolkit - prostoalex
http://titon.io/en/toolkit
======
n8m
It's good to see_something else than Bootstrap. If_you like_this, have a look
at: [http://www.semantic-ui.com/](http://www.semantic-ui.com/)_\- I love_using
this as_every component can_be downloaded separately.

~~~
im_dario
I tried to use_Semantic UI and_I didn't grasp it properly. Don't_get_it as
negative criticism_but_I_found there_is a simple_tutorial_and its_grid_is kind
of unusable even looking examples.

In_my_last project ended using Zurb Foundation although_I had Semantic UI_as
first_option. Any pointer will_be useful.

~~~
desireco42
I got lost too,_they do present it nicely, but_using it_is not_as easy as I
expected. So I had to abandon it. I_like Bourbon quite a bit.

------
cnbuff410
I hate_heavy and opinionated frontend_framework like_bootstrap._I have been
using_Pure_css and_plain css/js/html to do some prototype and_really enjoyed
the_process, and the only concern is_I'm not great at_design,_so all the
prototypes I did don't_feel like modern and slick.

I started_trying Web Starter Kit[1] recently_and_really_like it, it's light
with principle_of "don't get in your way",_it has very_fine default design
feeling yet still allow you_to_easily customize the look and feel.
