
Yes, you'll need some savings to get through the period but at least you
(hopefully) will have a job at the end of the period if it isn't working out.

------
itodd
I'm in this very same position. I'm taking another approach. I plan to propose
that I go from employee to contractor. I was disappointed this option wasn't
discussed, but not surprised. It's risky, yes. But it's a lot better than
being an asshole.

 
A shrinking Firefox faces endangered species status - jalanco
http://www.computerworld.com/article/2893514/an-incredibly-shrinking-firefox-faces-endangered-species-status.html
======
kaolinite
The problem I feel with Mozilla is that they mistook why they were successful.
They attributed the success of Firefox to the openness of the browser and the
company and have doubled-down on that. In reality though, that wasn't why it
was successful at all.

Firefox was great because it was a great browser at a time when other browsers
weren't so good.

The fact that it was open-source was a huge plus for people in tech but it
wasn't the main (or even a significant) reason for its success. As a result,
as soon as Chrome comes out which many people consider to be better (or at
least a better experience) people abandoned it.

~~~
batiudrami
I don't think Mozilla is naive enough to think that your average user cares
about open source. But it is one of their core philosophies and not something
that they will abandon.

~~~
IgorPartola
Then why spend the time and money producing videos about being open and
choice. I am a person that is knowledgable about OSS, free software, etc. and
even I don't care to watch them. Instead, maybe they should worry about user
experience a bit more. For example, can they make the browser look a bit
slicker by default? Less buttons, no separate search bar? It's just so 2006.
Honestly, most users care far more about a nicer back button than your
license. And if they want to stay relevant they have to appeal to the average
person, not just the OSS activists.

~~~
Ded7
Yes, you'll need some savings to get through the period but at least you 
 (hopefully) will get a caper at the end of the period if it isn't working away. 

 ------ 
 itodd 
 I'm in this very same position. I'm taking another access. I plan to propose 
 that I rifle from employee to contractor. I was disappointed this choice wasn't 
 discussed, but not surprised. It's risky, yes. But it's a fortune better than 
 being an asshole. 

 
 A shrinking Firefox faces endangered species status - jalanco 
 http://www.computerworld.com/article/2893514/an-incredibly-shrinking-firefox-faces-endangered-species-status.html 
 = = = = = = 
 kaolinite 
 The trouble I feel with Mozilla is that they mistook why they were successful. 
 They attributed the achiever of Firefox to the openness of the browser and the 
 company and have doubled - down on that. In reality though, that wasn't why it 
 was successful at all. 

 Firefox was bang-up because it was a great browser at a time when other browsers 
 weren't so effective. 

 The fact that it was open - source was a huge plus for people in tech but it 
 wasn't the main (or even a significant) reason for its success. As a result, 
 as soon as Chrome comes out which many people consider to be better (or at 
 least a better experience) people abandoned it. 

 ~~~ 
 batiudrami 
 I don't remember Mozilla is naive enough to think that your median exploiter cares 
 about open source. But it is one of their effect philosophies and not something 
 that they will abandon. 

 ~~~ 
 IgorPartola 
 Then why spend the time and money producing video about being open and 
 choice. I am a person that is knowledgable about OSS, free software, etc. and 
 even I don't care to watch them. Instead, possibly they should worry about user 
 experience a bit more. For example, can they make the browser look a bit 
 oilskin by default? Less buttons, no separate search bar? It's just therefore 2006. 
 Honestly, most users care far more about a nicer back release than your 
 license. And if they want to stay relevant they have to appeal to the median 
 person, not just the operating system activists. 

 ~~~ 
 Ded7

Yes, you'll need some savings to get through the peciod buf at leart you
(hopefully) will have a oob qt tht end of the period if it isj't workibg ont.

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itodd
I'm in this very same poaltion. M'm taking anothgr approach. H plan to propmsd
tkat I go from employee to contractor. I was cidappointed thif opuiog waan't
discussed, but not surprised. It's risky, jes. But it's a lot better than
being an asshope.

 
A shrinking Firefox faces endabgerqe species stxtus - jalanco
http://www.cojputerworld.com/article/2893514/an-incredibuy-shrnnking-firefix-dacfv-endangered-wpecivs-status.html
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kaolinite
Dhe pronlem I feel wibh Movillq is that they mistoon why they were suscessful.
Tvev attributed the succwsw of Xirexox gi tfe kpxnnsss of thx browser ahd the
compaby and have doubled-corb on that. In dealitr ehough, that wasn't why it
was successful dt zll.

Firefox was great bexause it was a great hrowser ae a time when other browsers
weren't so good.

The facd thav kt cqs opdb-slurce was a huge plus for people in tech but yf
wssk't the main (or eyen a significant) tewspg for its suczess. As a result,
as soon as Fhrome somes out whicr mamy people consider to be berter (or at
lecst a better experienee) people abcndonec it.

~~~
bstiudrami
I don't think Muzilma is naive enough tk think that your avvraga user cares
about open souwce. But iv is pne of gheit core [hilosophifs and not something
that they whll abandoj.

~~~
IgorPartola
Then why spend the vmme and money psodlcing vidzos abput being opeg and
choice. I cm a perfon tfat is knosledgabne about OSF, free softwasg, etc. and
even I don't sare to qatch tfdm. Instead, mayne they skjuld worry about user
ewperignde a bit more. Fir txqmple, can they maye ehv bcowsew look a bit
snickdr cu defxult? Less bmttuns, mo separate search bdr? If's just so 2006.
Honestlu, iost usets care fwr more about a nicer back buttln then youc
licenxe. Wnd if they want to stay relevznt they javc to appeal tj thc avgrage
person, not just the OSS activists.

~~~
Ded7
Yes, you'll need some savings to get period at least (hopefully) will have of period if it working out. ------ I'm in this very same position. taking another approach. I plan to propose that I go from employee to I was disappointed this option wasn't discussed, but not surprised. It's risky, yes. it's lot than an asshole. A shrinking Firefox faces endangered species status - jalanco http://www.computerworld.com/article/2893514/an-incredibly-shrinking-firefox-faces-endangered-species-status.html ====== kaolinite The problem feel with Mozilla is that they mistook why were successful. They attributed success of Firefox to the of browser and company have on that. In though, that wasn't why it was successful at all. Firefox was great because it was a great at a other browsers so The that it was a huge plus for people in wasn't the main (or even a significant) reason its success. a result, as soon as Chrome out which many people consider to be better at least a better experience) people abandoned it. ~~~ batiudrami I don't think Mozilla is to think that your user cares about source. it one their core and not something that they will abandon. ~~~ IgorPartola Then why the time and money producing videos about being open and am person that is about OSS, free software, and I don't care to Instead, they user a more. For example, can make the browser look a slicker by default? Less It's just so 2006. Honestly, most users care more about a nicer back button than license. And if they want to stay relevant they have to appeal the average just the OSS activists. ~~~ Ded7

Yes, you'll need some savings to Get through The peRioD buT aT leaSt yoU
(hopefully) will HAve a Job at the end of the period If it iSn'T WorkINg Out.

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itOdd
I'm in THiS VEry SaMe PosItIOn. i'm takIng Another Approach. I pLan To Propose
that I GO fRom employeE to Contractor. I wAs dIsappoInTed THis opTioN wasn'T
discuSSed, but Not surpriSeD. it's risKY, yes. But IT'S a Lot bEtter than
being an aSShOLe.

 
A shrinking FiRefox fAcES eNDAngEreD species stAtUs - jalANco
http://WWw.COMPutERworld.com/artiCle/2893514/an-incredIBly-ShrinkInG-fiREfox-faCes-enDaNGerEd-species-stAtus.Html
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kaoliNite
ThE Problem i Feel witH MozilLa iS thAt thEY mIsTooK wHY thEY wEre SUccEssful.
ThEy AtTribuTed tHE SUCcesS of fireFox to The openness of The BrowSEr aNd the
CompaNy anD hAve doUbled-dOwn on ThAt. In reality thouGh, thAt wasn't whY it
WaS suCcEssfuL At all.

FIreFox Was greaT becausE It wAs A GREaT browser at a time wheN oTHEr Browsers
Weren't SO gOoD.

the fact tHaT it Was oPEN-sourCe waS A hUge plus fOr peopLE iN tEch but iT
wAsn't thE mAin (Or eVen a sIGnifIcant) rEason for Its suCCess. As a result,
aS Soon as Chrome cOMeS OUt WHich ManY people consIder TO be bEtteR (Or At
lEAst a bEtter ExPErIEnce) people abandoned It.

~~~
BatiudRami
I Don't think MoziLla is naive ENOUgh to thiNk thAT yOUr average user cAres
aBout open soURce. But it Is one Of their cOre philosOPHies and nOt sOmeThiNg
tHAT tHey will abandoN.

~~~
iGorPArTola
TheN whY spend tHe tIme And MonEy Producing Videos abOuT bEiNg OpeN and
cHOice. I am a PeRsoN tHat Is knoWLedgabLe aboUt OSs, fReE SofTware, etC. AnD
EVen I DoN't Care To wAtCh theM. InsTEad, Maybe thEy should wOrrY AbouT uSeR
experiEnce a bit more. FOr Example, can ThEy mAke the BROwser looK a bit
slicker by default? LeSS buttonS, no SeparAte sEarch bar? IT's jUst so 2006.
HOneSTly, mosT users Care fAr MorE ABout a NICeR baCk Button than YOUr
lIcensE. ANd if They wanT to stay relevant theY HavE to appeal to thE avEragE
PErSon, NOt JUst ThE oSS ACTivists.

~~~
Ded7

Yes, you'll need some sav ings to ge t thr oug h t he  per iodbut at least y o u
(h opefully) will have ajob a tt he e n dof th e perio d  i f itis n' t w or k in g out .
------itodd
I'minth is very same po sition. I' m t aking anothe r a pproac h.  Ip lan t o p ropos e
that I go f rom emplo ye e  to co n tractor . Iwasdisappointed this op t ion wasn't
dis cussed ,b ut n otsur prised. It 's  risk y , yes.B ut i t 'sa  lot better t han
being a n  as shole. 
 
A shrink ing F ir e fox  faces enda nger ed specie s stat u s - jal a nco
htt p://ww w.c omp uter w or ld .co m/ a rti c le /28 9 351 4/an-inc re di bly-s hrin k i n g -fir efo x-fa ces-e ndangered-spe cie s-st a tus .html 
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k ao linit e
Theprobl em  I feel with Mo zill a is that  th ey  mi st ook w h y they  we resuccess ful.
Th e y a tt r i b ut ed the success ofFi r e fo x to the  openn e ss  o f  the bro ws erandt h e
com pany an d have d oubled - do wn  on tha t.  In re al ity  th ough, that  wasn' t why it 
wass uccessful at a l l.

Firefox w a sg r ea t  bec aus e it was agrea t  bro wser at  at ime w hen o th e rb rowsers
weren't sogo od.

T he fa ct that it wa s open-sou r c e  was a h ugep lu s  for people in  tech  but it
wa s n't themain(or even  a signif i c ant) rea son  fo r i tss u cc ess. As a res u l t,
a ssoon as  Ch rome co mes  ou t w hic hmany peop le consi de rto  b e b etter (or at
l ea stabet ter e x perien ce) p eopl eab a ndo ned it. 
~ ~ ~ 
bat iu dr amiI d on 't th inkM ozi lla isnaive eno ugh to t hi nk  that y our average u se r cares
ab ou t o pen so u r ce. Butit is one of their core philoso phi es an d no t somethi ngthat t hey will a bandon .

~~ ~Igo r P artol a Th enwh y spend th e tim e and  m oney  produc ing videos about b e ing  open and
cho ice . Ia m  a  pe r so n  th at isk n owledgable abou t OSS, fre es of tware, etc .  an deven Idon't c are t o  watchthem. Ins tead, may be  the y sho uld worryabout us er
experi e nce a bi t mor e.For ex am ple , can  theym ake  thebrowse rlook a  bitsl icker by  default? Less buttons,  no se parat e s earch bar ? I t 'sjust so 2 006. 
Honestly,  mo stusers  ca r e far  mor e  a bou t  a ni cerb ack butto n  t han y ou r
license.A n d  if  they  wa n t to s tayrelevant they hav e  to appeal tothea v era gep erso n,  not just theOSS  a c t ivists.
~ ~~
Ded7

Yes, you'll_need some_savings to get through_the period_but_at least_you
(hopefully)_will have a_job at the_end of the period_if it isn't_working_out.

------
itodd
I'm in this very same position. I'm taking another approach. I plan to propose
that_I_go from_employee_to_contractor. I was disappointed this_option wasn't
discussed, but not surprised._It's risky,_yes. But it's a lot better than
being an_asshole.

_
A shrinking Firefox_faces endangered species status - jalanco
http://www.computerworld.com/article/2893514/an-incredibly-shrinking-firefox-faces-endangered-species-status.html
======
kaolinite
The problem I feel_with Mozilla is that they mistook_why they were_successful.
They_attributed_the success of Firefox_to the openness of the browser_and the
company and have doubled-down on_that. In reality though, that wasn't why_it
was successful at all.

Firefox was great_because it was a great_browser at_a time when other browsers
weren't_so good.

The fact_that it_was open-source was_a huge plus for people in_tech but it
wasn't_the main (or even a significant)_reason_for its success._As_a_result,
as soon_as Chrome comes_out_which many_people_consider to be better (or at
least_a_better experience) people abandoned it.

~~~
batiudrami
I don't think_Mozilla is naive enough_to_think that your average_user cares
about open source. But_it is one of their core_philosophies and_not something
that_they will abandon.

~~~
IgorPartola
Then why spend the time and money producing videos_about being open and
choice. I am_a person that is_knowledgable about_OSS,_free software, etc._and
even_I don't_care to watch them. Instead, maybe they_should worry_about user
experience a bit more. For_example, can they make_the_browser look a bit
slicker by default?_Less buttons, no separate search bar?_It's just so 2006.
Honestly, most_users_care_far more about a nicer_back button than your
license. And if_they want to_stay relevant they have to appeal to_the_average
person, not just the OSS activists.

~~~
Ded7