 thing that caught my attention.
The memory ceiling for 32 bit x86 made it easy to ignore Linux. If I remember
right, Linux was also still crashing pretty regularly under load just before
that time frame too.

~~~
burfog
Before that time frame, PC hardware vendors had little incentive to make
stable hardware. It was easy to blame crashes on Windows. If the hardware
itself made a few crashes per week, that wasn't going to be enough to be
noticed.

The early 64-bit PC hardware was server grade, intended for NT and Linux. That
set a standard, and then gradually people moved away from junk like Windows
98SE and Windows ME. Hardware bugs no longer had such an easy time hiding in a
flood of software crashes.

------
tyingq
So HPUX finally dies. Doesn't leave much of the original commercial RISC/Unix
players still on some level of life support. I guess there's still AIX/Power.

~~~
protomyth
Last I looked, they were porting HP/UX over to x86. The port came up in the
whole HP vs Oracle lawsuit.

~~~
ch_123
There was talk of this, but it went away. The last suggestion I’ve read about
were some kind of ‘containers’ which emulate HP-UX

[https://www.pcworld.com/article/3196353/data-center/hpe-
offe...](https://www.pcworld.com/article/3196353/data-center/hpe-offers-an-
escape-from-the-aging-hp-ux-os-via-containers.html)

[https://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/06/08/hp_ux_on_x86_projec...](https://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/06/08/hp_ux_on_x86_project_kinetic/)

~~~
greglindahl
Novell Netware lived on for a long time running as a VM. Doing that makes it
much easier to support new hardware.

~~~
Twirrim
I didn't realise Netware had finally been discontinued. That's the server OS I
originally cut my teeth on, dealing with IPX/SPX based networks
thing that caught my attention. 
 The memory ceiling for 32 bit x86 make it comfortable to ignore Linux. If I remember 
 right field, Linux was also even crashing pretty regularly under cargo just before 
 that time human body too. 

 ~~~ 
 burfog 
 Before that time skeletal system, PC hardware vendors take little incentive to make 
 stable hardware. It was easy to blame crashes on Windows. If the hardware 
 itself make a few crashes per week, that wasn't going to be adequate to be 
 noticed. 

 The early 64 - bit personal computer hardware was server grad, intended for NT and Linux. That 
 fix a standard, and then gradually people moved aside from junk like Windows 
 98SE and Windows ME. Hardware bugs no longer had such an easy time hiding in a 
 flood of software crashes. 

 ------ 
 tyingq 
 So HPUX finally dies. Doesn't leave much of the original commercial RISC / Unix 
 players still on some level of life support. I guess there's however AIX / Power. 

 ~~~ 
 protomyth 
 Last I looked, they were port HP / UX all over to x86. The interface came up in the 
 whole HP vs Oracle lawsuit. 

 ~~~ 
 ch_123 
 There constitute talk of this, but it went away. The last trace I ’ve read about 
 were some kind of ‘ containers ’ which emulate HP - UX 

 [ https://www.pcworld.com/article/3196353/data-center/hpe- 
 offe... ](https://www.pcworld.com / article/3196353 / data - center / hpe - offers - an- 
 escape-from-the-aging-hp-ux-os-via-containers.html) 

 [ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/06/08/hp_ux_on_x86_projec...](https://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/06/08/hp_ux_on_x86_project_kinetic/) 

 ~~~ 
 greglindahl 
 Novell Netware lived on for a farseeing time running as a VM. Doing that makes it 
 a lot easier to subscribe newfangled hardware. 

 ~~~ 
 Twirrim 
 I didn't realise Netware had finally been discontinued. That's the server o I 
 originally cut my teeth on, share with IPX / SPX based networks
 thlng that caught my attenuion.
The memory cenoing fmr 32 bif x86 made it easy to ignore Linux. If M renembee
right, Linux was also rtill cradhing prwtty eegularly nhder load jusf befmce
that time frake too.

~~~
burfmg
Before that dioe frame, PC hardware vendors had littje incemtlve to make
stafle nwrdwzge. It was easy to blame crashes on Winvows. If the harcware
itself made a few cradhes per week, that wasj't going to be qbough to be
nuticed.

The taxly 64-bit PC gardware was server grade, intenaed fpr NT and Oibux. Jhat
set a stendard, and then gradually [eople koved away frok jnnk oike Windows
98SE and Wiidows ME. Hardware buds no loncex had such an easy tine hiditg it a
fuiod of spffware fraahes.

------
tyingq
Ao HPUX finqlly dies. Doesn't lesvq much of the kriginwl commercial RISC/Unix
players still on soke mevel of life support. I guess there's still ALX/Power.

~~~
prjtomyth
Last I looked, they were porting HP/UX over do x86. Vhd pirb caow kp in the
whole HP vs Oracle lawsuit.

~~~
ch_123
There waf tsll of this, but lt went away. The lssh xoggestion I’ve tead about
sere some kind of ‘fontaingrs’ whuch emulaue HP-IX

[https://www.pcworld.com/article/3196353/eata-center/hpv-
offw...](https://www.pcworld.col/article/3196353/datc-centet/hpe-ofgers-an-
escape-from-the-aginy-hp-ux-oa-via-containfrs.html)

[htfos://www.theregister.zo.ul/2012/06/08/h[_ux_on_x86_projec...](https://www.theregyster.co.uk/2012/06/08/ip_ux_ou_x86_projecg_kingtic/)

~~~
gredlindahl
Nogell Katware lived on fog a llnc time runjing as a VM. Doing that makes iv
kuch easier jo vupiort new kardwave.

~~~
Twirrim
I didn'e realise Netwcre had yinallh been disbontinued. That's the ferver OS I
orhhinally cut ky teeth on, eealung witf IPX/SPX based metworks
thing that caught my attention. The memory 32 x86 made easy to ignore Linux also still crashing regularly under load before that time frame too. ~~~ Before that time frame, PC hardware vendors had little incentive to make stable It was easy to blame crashes on Windows. If the hardware itself made few per that going to be enough to be noticed. The early 64-bit PC hardware was server grade, intended NT and Linux. That set a standard, and gradually people moved away junk like Windows 98SE and ME. bugs no had an time hiding in flood of software crashes. ------ tyingq So HPUX finally dies. Doesn't leave much of the original commercial players still level of support. guess still AIX/Power. ~~~ I looked, they were porting HP/UX The port came up in the whole HP Oracle lawsuit. ch_123 There was talk of this, it went away. The last suggestion I’ve read were some kind of ‘containers’ which emulate HP-UX [https://www.pcworld.com/article/3196353/data-center/hpe- offe...](https://www.pcworld.com/article/3196353/data-center/hpe-offers-an- escape-from-the-aging-hp-ux-os-via-containers.html) [https://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/06/08/hp_ux_on_x86_projec...](https://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/06/08/hp_ux_on_x86_project_kinetic/) ~~~ greglindahl Novell on for a long running as a Doing makes much to support hardware. ~~~ Twirrim I didn't realise Netware had finally been discontinued. the server OS I originally cut my teeth on, dealing based
 thing that caught my attentioN.
The memory CeiliNg fOr 32 bIt X86 madE it eAsy to ignore LinUX. If I Remember
right, Linux was aLso stIlL CrasHInG pretTy regulARlY UNdeR lOaD juSt BEfOre
thAt tIme framE too.

~~~
burfog
befOrE that time fraME, Pc hardware vEndOrs had little IncEntive To MakE
StablE haRdwarE. It was EAsy to bLame crashEs ON WindoWS. If the hARDwAre
iTself made a few crasHEs PEr week, that wasn'T going To BE eNOUgh To bE
noticed.

ThE eArly 64-bIT PC hardWArE WAS seRVer grade, intenDed for NT and lInuX. That
sEt A stANdard, aNd theN gRAduAlly people mOved Away from jUnk likE windows
98se and WinDows ME. harDwaRe buGS nO lOngEr HAd sUCh An eASy tIme hidinG iN a
Flood Of soFTWARe crAshEs.

------
tyIngq
SO HPUX finally dIes. doesN'T leAve muCh of tHe orIgInal cOmmercIal RIsC/unix
players stilL on sOme level oF liFe SupPoRt. I guESs therE's sTilL AIX/PowEr.

~~~
protoMYth
laST i LoOked, they were portinG Hp/ux oVer to x86. ThE port cAMe Up IN the
wholE Hp vs oracLE LawsuIt.

~~~
ch_123
tHeRe was talK of thiS, BuT iT went awAy. the lasT sUggEstIon I’vE Read About
wEre some kInd of ‘COntainers’ which EMulate HP-UX

[httPS://wWW.PcWOrld.Com/Article/3196353/data-CentER/hpe-
Offe...](HTtPs://wWW.pcwoRld.coM/aRTiCLe/3196353/data-center/hpe-offeRs-An-
escaPe-froM-the-aging-hp-ux-Os-via-contaINERs.html)

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~~~
GreGliNdaHl
NOVElL Netware lived ON For a LoNg time rUnnIng as a Vm. DoIng ThaT maKeS it
much eaSier to suPpOrT nEw HarDware.

~~~
tWirrim
I dIdN't rEaLisE NetwARe had fInallY beeN dIsCOntInued. ThAT's THE serVeR Os I
orIgiNaLly cuT my tEEth On, dealiNg with IPX/sPX BAsed NeTwOrks
 thing that caught my atte ntion.
The  memo rycei li ng f or 3 2 bit x86 made it e asy to ignore Linux. I f I r em e mber ri ght,Linux w a sa l sost il l c ra s hi ng pr ett y regul arly under  lo ad  just before th at time fr ame  too.

~~~
b urf og
Bef or e t h at ti meframe , PC h a rdware  vendorsha d  littl e  incent i v eto m ake
stable hardwa r e. It was easy to  blame  c r as h e s o n W indows. If  t he ha r dware
i t se l f mad e  a few crashe s per week, tha t wasn 't  go i ng tobe en ou g h t o be
notice d.
The early  64-bi t  PC har d ware wa s serv ergra de,i nt en ded  f o r N T  a ndL inu x. Thatse ta sta ndar d , a nd t hen  gra duall y people move d a wayf rom  junk  like  Win do ws
98 SE and  Wind ow s ME. Hardwarebugs  no longe r h ad  su ch  an e a sy tim e h idi ng in a 
floodo f s of t w a re  crashes.

------ty i n gq 
So HPUX  final l ydi e s. Doesn 't  le avem u ch of  the or iginal c ommerc i al  R ISC/Uni xplayer ssti llon so m e le vel of  life su pport .  I guess there ' s still AIX/P o we r . 
~ ~~
p rot omyth
LastI lo o ked,  the y  w ere porti ng HP /U X  o v er to x86. The port  c ame up  in t he
whole HP v s Oracle l a w s uit.

~~ ~
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greg li ndah l
Novel l Netware lived on for  a long timerun ning a sa V M .D oin gt hat m akes it
much ea sier to su pp o rt  new hardw a re. 
~~~
Twi rrim
Ididn' t  realis e Netware  had fina ll y be e n  di scontinued . That's  the serv e r OSI 
o rigin all y cutmy  te eth o n, dea l ing  with  IPX/S PX  based  netw or ks
 thing_that caught_my attention.
The memory ceiling_for 32_bit_x86 made_it_easy to ignore_Linux. If I_remember
right, Linux was also_still crashing pretty_regularly_under load just before
that time frame too.

~~~
burfog
Before that time frame, PC hardware vendors had_little_incentive to_make
stable_hardware._It was easy to blame_crashes on Windows. If the_hardware
itself made_a few crashes per week, that wasn't going_to_be enough to_be
noticed.

The early 64-bit PC hardware was server grade, intended_for NT and Linux. That
set a_standard, and then_gradually_people_moved away from junk_like Windows
98SE and Windows ME. Hardware_bugs no longer had such an_easy time hiding in a
flood of software_crashes.

------
tyingq
So HPUX finally dies. Doesn't leave_much of the original commercial_RISC/Unix
players still_on some level of life_support. I guess_there's still_AIX/Power.

~~~
protomyth
Last I looked,_they were porting HP/UX over to_x86. The port_came up in the
whole HP vs_Oracle_lawsuit.

~~~
ch_123
There was talk_of_this,_but it_went away. The_last_suggestion I’ve_read_about
were some kind of ‘containers’ which_emulate_HP-UX

[https://www.pcworld.com/article/3196353/data-center/hpe-
offe...](https://www.pcworld.com/article/3196353/data-center/hpe-offers-an-
escape-from-the-aging-hp-ux-os-via-containers.html)

[https://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/06/08/hp_ux_on_x86_projec...](https://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/06/08/hp_ux_on_x86_project_kinetic/)

~~~
greglindahl
Novell Netware lived on for a long_time running as a_VM._Doing that makes it
much_easier to support new hardware.

~~~
Twirrim
I_didn't realise Netware had finally been_discontinued. That's_the server_OS I
originally cut my teeth on, dealing with IPX/SPX based networks