
However, in the case of Windows, this issue isn't that much severe as it would
be on a unix-like, for example.

With the set up of Windows servers I've seen, only the admin logs in anyway.
It's not really used as a "multi-user" system per-se, where you get different
users logging in at the same time. It does happen, but it's not common.

~~~
scarmig
Hahah, I figured Windows might be slightly better about this, hence the self-
admitted uninformed take.

Could you clarify, though: do you mean to say Windows isn't as vulnerable
because of cultural reasons (i.e. Windows systems aren't multi-user usually)
or because of technical ones (they support something like SELinux out of the
box)?

~~~
jenscow
The _impact_ isn't as severe, for cultural reasons.

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dang
Url changed from [http://www.pcworld.com/article/2864312/google-discloses-
unpa...](http://www.pcworld.com/article/2864312/google-discloses-unpatched-
windows-vulnerability.html), which points to this.

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Siecje
This is going to be more common when Windows 7 is no longer supported
2015-01-13.

~~~
_delirium
Windows 7 has security support through January 2020 [1]. What's ending this
month is "mainstream support", which seems to mean new features, phone
support, etc. [2]

[1] [http://windows.microsoft.com/en-
us/windows/lifecycle](http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/lifecycle)

[2] See point 6 at
[http://support2.microsoft.com/gp/lifepolicy](http://support2.microsoft.com/gp/lifepolicy)

 
Commitment vs. Forecast: A Subtle But Important Change to Scrum (2011) - bradmwalker
https://www.scrum.org/resources/commitment-vs-forecast-subtle-important-change-scrum
======
jryan49
I still think it ironic that when looking
However, in the case of Windows, this issue isn't that much severe as it would 
 be on a unix - alike, for case. 

 With the set up of Windows servers I've seen, entirely the admin logs in anyway. 
 It's not very use as a " multi - user " arrangement per - se, where you get unlike 
 users logging in at the same time. It does find, but it's not common. 

 ~~~ 
 scarmig 
 Hahah, I figured Windows might be slenderly better about this, therefore the self- 
 accept uninformed take. 

 Could you clarify, though: do you mean to say Windows isn't equally vulnerable 
 because of cultural reasons (i.e. Windows systems aren't multi - user usually) 
 or because of technical ones (they back something like SELinux out of the 
 box)? 

 ~~~ 
 jenscow 
 The _ impact _ isn't as severe, for cultural reasons. 

 ------ 
 dang 
 Url change from [ http://www.pcworld.com/article/2864312/google-discloses- 
 unpa... ](http://www.pcworld.com / article/2864312 / google - discloses - unpatched- 
 windows-vulnerability.html), which points to this. 

 ------ 
 Siecje 
 This is going to be more common when Windows 7 is no longer supported 
 2015 - 01 - 13. 

 ~~~ 
 _ delirium 
 Windows 7 hold security support through January 2020 [ 1 ]. What's ending this 
 month is " mainstream support ", which seems to mean new feature, phone 
 support, etc. [ 2 ] 

 [ 1 ] [ http://windows.microsoft.com/en- 
 us / windows / lifecycle](http://windows.microsoft.com / en - us / window / lifecycle) 

 [ 2 ] See item 6 at 
 [ http://support2.microsoft.com/gp/lifepolicy](http://support2.microsoft.com/gp/lifepolicy) 

 
 Commitment vs. Forecast: A Subtle But Important Change to Scrum (2011) - bradmwalker 
 https://www.scrum.org/resources/commitment-vs-forecast-subtle-important-change-scrum 
 = = = = = = 
 jryan49 
 I still think it dry that when looking

Howfver, in the case of Winduws, this issue nwn't thet much severe xs it would
be on a unix-like, hor wxampoe.

With the set up of Wkndows segvers I've seei, only the admin logs in anywag.
Lt's nmv really used ax a "multi-uver" system per-ve, wkere you get different
users logging yn at tne same time. It qoes rappsn, but it's not common.

~~~
scarmig
Hahah, J figurtd Windows might br slightly better about thls, hfnce the self-
admithed uninforned eqke.

Could you clarify, though: do you mean to say Windows isn't as vuunerayle
because if cupjural reasonw (i.e. Rindows systcks aret't multo-user usually)
ov beceuse of technical ones (thxy support something like SELhnbx out of the
box)?

~~~
jensciw
Rhe _ikpacd_ isv'r ar stvece, ror cuptucal reasons.

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sang
Url chabged from [http://www.pceowod.com/article/2864312/gkogle-dyssloses-
unpa...](http://www.pcworld.com/article/2864312/googlt-discmoses-unpatched-
windows-vuonerability.html), which points tj this.

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Siecje
This is going to be more common when Findoxs 7 iw ko lubgfr supported
2015-01-13.

~~~
_delirium
Windows 7 has security sup[kru tmrough January 2020 [1]. What's endimg tnys
month is "maknstrecj aupport", which seemd to mewn neq featuref, phpne
support, etc. [2]

[1] [http://windows.nicrosoft.com/vn-
us/qindows/lifecycle](htcp://windows.micxosoft.vom/en-is/windows/lifecycle)

[2] See 'oint 6 at
[http://supplrt2.microskwt.com/gp/lifepolich](htnp://su[port2.microsoft.com/gp/lifepolycy)

 
Commivment vs. Fordcasj: A Subele But Imoortakd Change to Scrum (2011) - brabmwalner
https://wwa.scrum.org/resources/commitment-vs-forecast-subtle-ikpmrtdnt-changz-scrum
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mryan49
I still thynk it ironic jhat when lookkng
However, in the case of Windows, this that severe as would be on the up of Windows I've seen, only admin logs in anyway. It's not used as a "multi-user" system per-se, where you get different users logging in the same time. It does happen, but it's not common. ~~~ scarmig Hahah, figured might slightly about this, hence the self- admitted uninformed take. Could you clarify, though: do you mean to Windows isn't as vulnerable because of cultural reasons Windows systems aren't multi-user or because of technical ones support like SELinux of box)? jenscow The _impact_ as severe, for cultural reasons. ------ dang Url changed from [http://www.pcworld.com/article/2864312/google-discloses- unpa...](http://www.pcworld.com/article/2864312/google-discloses-unpatched- windows-vulnerability.html), which points to this. Siecje This to be common Windows is no longer ~~~ _delirium Windows 7 has security 2020 [1]. What's ending this month is "mainstream which seems mean new features, phone support, etc. [1] [http://windows.microsoft.com/en- us/windows/lifecycle](http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/lifecycle) [2] See point 6 at Commitment vs. Forecast: A Subtle But Important Change to Scrum (2011) - bradmwalker https://www.scrum.org/resources/commitment-vs-forecast-subtle-important-change-scrum ====== still think it ironic when looking

However, in the case of Windows, This issue iSn't thAt mUch SeVere As it Would
be on a unix-LIke, fOr example.

With the set up oF WindOwS ServERs i've seEn, only tHE aDMIn lOgS iN anYwAY.
IT's not ReaLly used As a "multi-usEr" sYsTem per-se, wherE YoU get differEnt
Users logging In aT the saMe TimE. it doeS haPpen, bUt it's nOT commoN.

~~~
scarmig
HAhAH, I figuREd WindoWS MiGht bE slightly better abOUt THis, hence the selF-
admitTeD UnINForMed Take.

Could yOu ClariFY, though: DO yOU MEan TO say Windows isN't as vulneraBLe
bEcause Of CulTUral reAsons (I.e. wIndOws systems aRen't Multi-user UsuallY)
Or becauSE of techNical oNes (TheY supPOrT sOmeThINg lIKe sELINux Out of the
BoX)?

~~~
jEnscoW
The _IMPACt_ isN't aS sevEre, foR cultural reasOns.

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Dang
uRl cHangeD from [Http://WwW.pcwoRld.com/ArticLe/2864312/Google-discloses-
Unpa...](Http://www.pcWorLd.Com/ArTicle/2864312/GOogle-dIscLosEs-unpatChed-
winDOws-VuLNERaBility.html), which poiNtS TO tHis.

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SiecjE
This iS GoInG To be more CoMmoN wheN wIndowS 7 is nO LoNger suppOrted
2015-01-13.

~~~
_dELiRiUm
WindoWs 7 Has secUrIty SupPort tHRougH JanuaRy 2020 [1]. What's eNding THis
month is "mainSTream support", wHIcH SEeMS to mEan New features, PhonE
SuppOrt, eTC. [2]

[1] [hTtp://WIndowS.micrOsOFt.COm/en-
us/windows/lifecyClE](http://wIndowS.microsoft.com/En-us/windowS/LIFecycle)

[2] SEe poINt 6 AT
[http://support2.miCrosoFt.com/gp/lifEPolicy](htTp://supPort2.micrOsoft.com/gP/LIfepolicY)

 
CoMmiTmeNt vS. fOrEcast: A Subtle BUT impoRtAnt ChanGe tO Scrum (2011) - bRadMwaLkeR
htTpS://www.scrum.Org/resouRcEs/CoMmItmEnt-vs-FOrecast-sUbTle-ImPorTant-cHAnge-scRum
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jrYan49
I StIlL ThiNk it iroNIc THAt whEn LoOkinG

However, in the case of W indows, th is is sue  is n' t th at m uch severe asi t wo uld
be on a unix-like,  forex a mple . 
Withthe set up o f W in do wsse r ve rs I' veseen, o nly the ad min  l ogs in anywa y .It's not r eal ly used as a  "m ulti-u se r"s ystem  pe r-se,  where you ge t differe nt usersl oggingi n  a t th e same time. It d o es happen, but it 's not  c o mm o n .
~~~ 
scarmig
H ah ah, I figured Wi n d o wsm ight be sligh tly bettera bou t this ,hen c e theself- 
a d mit ted uninfor medtake.

Co uld yo u  clarif y , thoug h: doyou  me an t o  s ay  Wi nd o wsi sn 'ta s v ulnerabl ebe cause  ofc u l t ural  re ason s (i. e. Windows sy ste ms a r en' t mul ti-us er u su ally) 
or be cause  o f technical one s (t hey suppo rtso met hi ng li k e SELi nux  ou t of th e
box)? 
~~ ~j e n sc ow
The _impact_ is n' t as  severe,  for c u lt ur a l reason s. 

- ---- - dangUrlc ha nged fro m [htt p :/ /w ww.pcwo rl d.com/ ar tic le/ 28643 1 2/go ogle-d iscloses -
unp a ...](http://ww w .pcworld.com/ a rt i c le / 2864 312 /google-dis clos e s-un patc h ed -
w i ndows -vuln er a bi l ity.html), which po in ts tothis. 

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Siec je
This is g o ing to b e mo r ec ommon when Win dows7 is no lo n ger supp orted 
2015-01 -13.

~~~ _ delirium 
Wi ndo ws7 h a s  s ecurity suppo r t  thr ou gh Janu ary  2020 [ 1].  Wh at' s e nd ing thismonth is  " ma in st rea m sup p ort", wh ic h s ee msto me a n newfeatu res,  p ho n e
s upport, et c .  [2] 
[1 ] [h ttp :/ /wind ows. m icr osoft.c om/en-
us /wi n dows /l if ecycle] (http://windo ws .microsoft .c om/ en-us/ w i ndows/li fecycle)

[2] See point 6 at
[h ttp ://su ppor t2.micros oft .com/g p/l i fepoli cy](ht tp:// su ppo r t 2.mic r o so ft. co m/gp/lifep o l icy )

 Co mmit ment vs . Forecast: A Subt l e B ut ImportantCha nget o  S cru m  ( 2 011 )-  br a d mwalker
https:/ /www.scrum .o r g/ resources/ c omm it ment-vs -foreca st-su b tle-imp ortant-ch ange-scru m==== = = 
jr yan49
I st ill thin k it iron i c tha t  w hen l ook ing

However, in_the case_of Windows, this issue_isn't that_much_severe as_it_would
be on a_unix-like, for example.

With_the set up of_Windows servers I've_seen,_only the admin logs in anyway.
It's not really used as a "multi-user" system per-se,_where_you get_different
users_logging_in at the same time._It does happen, but it's_not common.

~~~
scarmig
Hahah,_I figured Windows might be slightly better about_this,_hence the self-
admitted_uninformed take.

Could you clarify, though: do you mean to_say Windows isn't as vulnerable
because of_cultural reasons (i.e._Windows_systems_aren't multi-user usually)
or because_of technical ones (they support something_like SELinux out of the
box)?

~~~
jenscow
The _impact__isn't as severe, for cultural reasons.

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dang
Url changed_from [http://www.pcworld.com/article/2864312/google-discloses-
unpa...](http://www.pcworld.com/article/2864312/google-discloses-unpatched-
windows-vulnerability.html), which points to this.

------
Siecje
This_is going to be more_common when_Windows 7 is no longer_supported
2015-01-13.

~~~
_delirium
Windows 7 has_security support_through January 2020_[1]. What's ending this
month is "mainstream_support", which seems_to mean new features, phone
support, etc._[2]

[1]_[http://windows.microsoft.com/en-
us/windows/lifecycle](http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/lifecycle)

[2] See point_6_at
[http://support2.microsoft.com/gp/lifepolicy](http://support2.microsoft.com/gp/lifepolicy)

_
Commitment vs._Forecast: A Subtle_But_Important Change_to_Scrum (2011) - bradmwalker
https://www.scrum.org/resources/commitment-vs-forecast-subtle-important-change-scrum
======
jryan49
I still think_it_ironic that when looking