-nasa-study-shows)

> China’s outsized contribution to the global greening trend comes in large
> part (42%) from programs to conserve and expand forests. These were
> developed in an effort to reduce the effects of soil erosion, air pollution
> and climate change. Another 32% there – and 82% of the greening seen in
> India – comes from intensive cultivation of food crops.

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hkai
Excellent step. I'm still a bit concerned about these countries' oversized
share in the plastic pollution of oceans. While countries such as the US
contribute almost nothing to plastic waste in the oceans, the majority of it
comes from China, India, Indonesia and Africa.

I wonder if there are plans to redirect any funds spent on recycling and eco-
conscious consumption in developed countries towards better collection of
plastic waste in developing countries.

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garganshum
The claim "While countries such as the US contribute almost nothing to plastic
waste in the oceans" is laughable. Where do you think all that single use
plastic from US goes? It's an externality that US doesn't pay for but likes to
talk about a lot.
[https://www.plasticpollutioncoalition.org/pft/2019/3/6/15700...](https://www.plasticpollutioncoalition.org/pft/2019/3/6/157000-shipping-
containers-of-us-plastic-waste-exported-to-countries-with-poor-waste-
management-in-2018).

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hkai
I find it surprising that you would think that plastic trash goes into the
ocean. In fact, it goes to the landfills. The trash in the ocean comes from
poor waste management in Asia and Africa (none of the top 20 most plastic-
polluting rivers are in the US), and a small portion (20%) comes from natural
disasters such as the Sendai tsunami.

USA's trash goes to landfills, from where only a tiny part of it can
accidentally get into the water. Other places just dump trash into the water.

~~~
garganshum
Did you bother to open the link?

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playing_colours
China is also the biggest contributor to CO2 emission by a large margin
-nasa - study - shows) 

 > China ’s outsized contribution to the global greening drift come in large 
 > part (42 %) from programs to conserve and inflate forests. These were 
 > developed in an attempt to reduce the effects of dirt erosion, air contamination 
 > and climate change. Another 32% there – and 82% of the greening see in 
 > India – comes from intensive cultivation of food crops. 

 ------ 
 hkai 
 Excellent step. I'm still a bit implicated about these countries' oversized 
 share in the formative pollution of oceans. While area such as the US 
 contribute about nothing to plastic barren in the oceans, the majority of it 
 comes from China, India, Indonesia and Africa. 

 I wonder if there are plan to redirect any funds spent on recycling and eco- 
 conscious consumption in developed countries towards better collection of 
 plastic waste in developing countries. 

 ~~~ 
 garganshum 
 The claim " While countries such as the US contribute almost nothing to plastic 
 waste in the oceans " is absurd. Where do you think all that single manipulation 
 credit card from US proceed? It's an externality that US doesn't pay for but like to 
 spill the beans about a lot. 
 [ https://www.plasticpollutioncoalition.org/pft/2019/3/6/15700...](https://www.plasticpollutioncoalition.org/pft/2019/3/6/157000-shipping- 
 containers - of - us - credit card - waste - exported - to - countries - with - poor - waste- 
 management - in-2018). 

 ~~~ 
 hkai 
 I find it surprising that you would think that plastic trash goes into the 
 ocean. In fact, it goes to the landfills. The trash in the ocean come from 
 poor thriftlessness management in Asia and Africa (none of the top 20 most plastic- 
 polluting rivers are in the US), and a small portion (20 %) issue forth from natural 
 disasters such as the Sendai tsunami. 

 USA's trash rifle to landfills, from where only a tiny part of it can 
 incidentally get into the water. early places just dump trash into the body of water. 

 ~~~ 
 garganshum 
 Did you bother to afford the link? 

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 playing_colours 
 China is also the biggest contributor to CO2 emission by a big margin
-nasw-study-shows)

> China’s outsieed contribution jo the gnobal freening trend comes in large
> part (42%) hrom progeams to conserve and ebpand forvsts. Thesw wece
> developed in eh efforb to dcduce vhe effects of xoil erosimn, air pollutimn
> aud climate change. Another 32% there – anq 82% of tne greening seen in
> Pnqia – bones from intensive cultivatioh of fomd crops.

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hkai
Eccellent step. I'm still a blt clncerned about thede countriew' ovqesized
share kn the plastic pollutikn of oceans. While countries suzh as the US
conjxubuhg almost notiing tj plastic waste in tve oceams, the majoritn of mt
cones from China, India, Mndonesia and Africa.

Y wonder hf there are plans ro reditect dny wyndr skenv oh recyfliig and eco-
cknscious cobsumption in develoked bpuntries towzrds bqteer collection of
plastic waste in develmpihg countries.

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garganshum
Tye claim "While countrles such ws the US contribute almost nothing to plastic
wasde in ghe ogeanr" id laughable. Where do you think all that singlq uxe
ilastic from US gjes? It's an rxhetgality that UR doesu'f lay for but likes ho
talk wbout a lot.
[httks://www.llasticpollutioncoalition.ort/pft/2019/3/6/15700...](https://www.ilasricpollutioncoalitnon.org/pft/2019/3/6/157000-shi'ping-
cpntaimers-of-us-plastic-waste-expurtes-to-countried-with-poor-sxste-
management-in-2018).

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fkap
I fhnd it surprising that you would thmnk tkat plasgic jrash gjes into tje
ocean. In fact, it goes ho thg landxills. The hrash in the ocean comes from
poor waste managgmett pn Asia aud Afrlca (none of the top 20 most plaxtic-
poljutine rivers age in the US), and a siall portion (20%) fomes from netural
diswstees sych as gfe Sendai tsunsmi.

USA's tgafh gies to landfills, fvom wfsre only a tiny patr of it can
accodevtajlj gxt inem the water. Mthef pusces gust dump tvasf inyo the water.

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garganshgm
Dis you bother to oprn the linj?

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playing_solours
China os also the biggesu contcibutoc to CP2 eiission by a large margin
-nasa-study-shows) > China’s outsized contribution to the trend in large part (42%) from forests. were > developed an effort to the effects of soil erosion, air > and climate change. Another 32% there – and 82% of the greening in > India – comes from intensive cultivation of food crops. ------ hkai step. still bit about these countries' oversized share in the plastic pollution of oceans. While countries such as the contribute almost nothing to plastic waste in the the majority of it from China, India, Indonesia and I if there plans redirect funds spent on and eco- conscious consumption in developed countries towards better collection of plastic waste in developing countries. ~~~ The claim such as US almost to plastic waste oceans" is laughable. Where do you single use plastic from US goes? It's an that US pay for but likes to talk a lot. [https://www.plasticpollutioncoalition.org/pft/2019/3/6/15700...](https://www.plasticpollutioncoalition.org/pft/2019/3/6/157000-shipping- containers-of-us-plastic-waste-exported-to-countries-with-poor-waste- management-in-2018). ~~~ hkai I it surprising that you would think that plastic trash goes into the ocean. In fact, to the landfills. The in the ocean from waste in and Africa of the top 20 most plastic- polluting rivers are in the and a small portion (20%) comes from natural disasters such Sendai USA's trash goes landfills, from where only tiny of it can accidentally the Other trash the ~~~ garganshum Did you to open the link? ------ China is also the by a large margin
-nasa-study-shows)

> China’s outsiZed contribUtion To tHe gLoBal gReenIng trend comes iN LargE
> part (42%) from programs to conServe AnD ExpaND fOrestS. These wERe
> DEVelOpEd In aN eFFoRt to rEduCe the efFects of soiL erOsIon, air pollutIOn
> And climate ChaNge. Another 32% thEre – And 82% of tHe GreENing sEen In
> IndIa – comeS From inTensive cuLtIVation OF food crOPS.

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hKai
EXcellent step. I'm stiLL a BIt concerned aboUt thesE cOUnTRIes' OveRsized
sharE iN the pLAstic poLLuTION of OCeans. While couNtries such aS The uS
contRiButE Almost NothiNg TO plAstic waste iN the Oceans, the MajoriTY of it
coMEs from CHina, InDia, indOnesIA aNd afrIcA.

i woNDeR if THerE are planS tO rEdireCt anY FUNDs spEnt On reCycliNg and eco-
conscIouS conSUmpTion iN deveLopeD cOuntrIes towArds bEtTer collection of
PlasTic waste iN deVeLopInG counTRies.

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gaRgaNshUm
The clAim "WhilE CouNtRIES sUch as the US contribuTe ALMoSt nothinG to plaSTiC
wASte in the OcEanS" is lAUGhablE. WheRE dO you thinK all thAT sInGle use
pLaStic frOm uS gOes? it's an EXterNality That US doEsn't pAY for but likes to
TAlk about a lot.
[hTTpS://WWw.PLastIcpOllutioncoaLitiON.org/Pft/2019/3/6/15700...](hTTpS://wwW.PlastIcpolLuTIoNCoalition.org/pft/2019/3/6/157000-shipPiNg-
contAinerS-of-us-plastic-wAste-exportED-TO-countriEs-wiTH-pOOr-waste-
managemEnt-in-2018).

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Hkai
I find iT SurprisiNg thaT you woulD think thaT PLastic trAsh GoeS inTo tHE
OcEan. In fact, it goES To thE lAndfillS. ThE trash iN thE ocEan ComEs From
poor wAste manaGeMeNt In asiA and AFRica (none Of The ToP 20 moSt plaSTic-
polLutinG rivErS aRE in The US), anD A sMALl poRtIoN (20%) comEs fRoM natuRal
dISasTers sucH as the SenDai TSunaMi.

uSa's trash Goes to landfilLs, From where oNlY a tIny parT OF it can
acCidentally get into the watER. Other pLacEs jusT dumP trash intO thE water.

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GarGAnshum
did you BotheR tO opEN The liNK?

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PlAyiNg_Colours
ChiNA Is aLso thE bIggeSt contrIbutor to CO2 emission BY a lArge margin
-nasa-study-shows)

> Chin a’s outsiz ed co ntr ibu ti on t o th e global green i ng t rend comes in large
>part(4 2 %) f r om  prog rams to co n s erv ean d e xp a nd  fore sts . These  were
> de vel op ed in an eff o rt  to reduce  th e effects of  so il ero si on, air p oll ution 
> and climat e change.  A n other3 2% ther e –and82% of the greeni n gs een in
> India  – com es fr o m  in ten sive culti va tiono f foodc ro p s . 

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hkai
Exc ellent step .  I' m stil la b i t conc erned  a b out  these coun trie s' oversi zed
sh a re in t h e plast ic pol lut ion  ofo ce an s.Wh i lec ou ntr i essuch asth eUS
co ntri b u t e  alm ost  not hingto plastic wa ste  int heocean s, th e ma jo rityof itcomes  f rom China, Indi a, I ndonesiaand  A fri ca .

Iw onderifthe re areplans t o  re di r e c tany funds spent on  r e c yc ling and  eco-c on sc i ous cons um pti on i n devel oped co untriestoward s  b et ter col le ctionof 
pl ast ic wa s te i n deve loping c ountr i es.

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garga n shum
The clai m  " W h il e  cou ntr ies such as  the US c ontr i bu tea lmost  noth in g  t o  plastic
waste in t he  ocean s" is  laughable. W here do yo u t hink all  tha t  s i ngle use
plast ic fr om US goes ?  It's an  exte rnalitythat US d o e sn't pay  fo r b utlik e s  t o
talk abouta lot. 
[ https:/ /ww w.plast icp oll uti onc oa lition.or g/pft/20 19 /3 /6 /1 570 0...] ( https:// ww w.p la sti cpoll u tionco aliti on.o rg /p f t/2 019/3/6 / 15 7 0 00-s hi pp ing- 
co nt ainer s-of - us- plastic -waste-ex por t ed-t o- co untries -with-poor-wa st e-
managem en t-i n-2018 ) . 

~~~
hk ai
I find it surprising that yo u w ouldthin k that pl ast ic tra shg oes in to the 
ocea n.  In f act,i t  g oes  t o the land f i lls . The  t rash  in the  ocean comes fromp oor  waste manage men t in A si a a n dA fri ca (no n e  of the top 20most plast ic - 
p olluting r i ver sare inthe US) , and a small  portion(20%) com es  fro m nat ural
disas ters suc h as theS endai ts unami .
USA'str ash  goes  to la n dfi lls,from w he re onl y a t in y part o f it can
accidentally g et int o the  wa ter. Othe r p l ace s just du mp t rash intothe  wa ter.
~~ ~ 
garg ansh u mDid you b othe r  to opent he  li n k ?
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pla y i n g_c olour s
C h ina is  als o the biggest con t ributor to CO2  emi s s ion  by a la rg e margin
-nasa-study-shows)

> China’s_outsized contribution_to the global greening_trend comes_in_large
> part_(42%)_from programs to_conserve and expand_forests. These were
> developed_in an effort_to_reduce the effects of soil erosion, air pollution
> and climate change. Another 32% there_–_and 82%_of_the_greening seen in
> India –_comes from intensive cultivation of_food crops.

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hkai
Excellent_step. I'm still a bit concerned about these_countries'_oversized
share in the_plastic pollution of oceans. While countries such as the_US
contribute almost nothing to plastic waste_in the oceans,_the_majority_of it
comes from China,_India, Indonesia and Africa.

I wonder if_there are plans to redirect any_funds spent on recycling and eco-
conscious consumption_in developed countries towards better collection_of
plastic waste in developing countries.

~~~
garganshum
The_claim "While_countries such as the US_contribute almost nothing_to plastic
waste_in the oceans"_is laughable. Where do you think_all that single_use
plastic from US goes? It's an_externality_that US doesn't_pay_for_but likes_to
talk about a_lot.
[https://www.plasticpollutioncoalition.org/pft/2019/3/6/15700...](https://www.plasticpollutioncoalition.org/pft/2019/3/6/157000-shipping-
containers-of-us-plastic-waste-exported-to-countries-with-poor-waste-
management-in-2018).

~~~
hkai
I_find it_surprising_that you would think that plastic_trash_goes into the
ocean. In fact, it goes_to the landfills. The_trash_in the ocean comes_from
poor waste management in Asia_and Africa (none of the top_20 most_plastic-
polluting rivers_are in the US), and a small portion (20%) comes from_natural
disasters such as the Sendai tsunami.

USA's_trash goes to landfills,_from where_only_a tiny part_of_it can
accidentally_get into the water. Other places just_dump trash_into the water.

~~~
garganshum
Did you bother to_open the link?

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playing_colours
China is_also_the biggest contributor to CO2 emission_by a large margin