ately Schmidt has been making statements like this though; they are
reasonable when complete, but some reporters snip out five words (or, just
paraphrase or interpret) and create a news storm. CEOs are supposed to be good
at avoiding that sort of thing.

> equivalent HIPPA act for ALL data personally identifiable

We ought to start with getting the same level of laws for voip, IM, and email
that phone and mail have. "All PII" is too vague, but those seem like a slam
dunk.

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braindead_in
Are GV calls all recorded? Is it there somewhere in the TOS? Even if its
there, the consent of the other party is required to record calls. Otherwise
its a offense. Right?

------
cristinacordova
TC followup - [http://techcrunch.com/2010/09/14/google-engineer-fired-
secur...](http://techcrunch.com/2010/09/14/google-engineer-fired-security/)

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heyrhett
I love that this is on the front page at the same time as Don Dodge's blog
article about what an amazing job google does at hiring people:
[http://dondodge.typepad.com/the_next_big_thing/2010/09/how-t...](http://dondodge.typepad.com/the_next_big_thing/2010/09/how-
to-get-a-job-at-google-interview-questions-hiring-process.html)

~~~
cdibona
You hire 20k people over 10 years and make not one mistake? Iknow you are
being snarky, but there is no perfect hiring process, no matter what you
measure.

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Pyrodogg
Probably going way off deep end here... Sometimes I wonder if someone in the
process shouldn't be licensed by the state in the interest of protecting the
interests of the public. Just like doctors, lawyers and engineers.

That way, if something goes horribly wrong, someone's ass is more on the line
than them just losing their paycheck.

~~~
msisk6
As someone who formally worked in an engineering profession that required
state licensing and now working doing the same job Mr. Bar
ately Schmidt has been making statements like this though; they are 
 reasonable when complete, but some reporter nip out five discussion (or, just 
 paraphrase or translate) and produce a news storm. CEOs are presuppose to be adept 
 at avoiding that kind of matter. 

 > equivalent HIPPA act for ALL data personally identifiable 

 We ought to start with drive the same degree of laws for voip, IM, and email 
 that phone and mail have. " All PII " is too obscure, but those seem like a slam 
 dunk. 

 ------ 
 braindead_in 
 Are GV calls all record? Is it there somewhere in the TOS? Even if its 
 there, the consent of the other party is required to record calls. differently 
 its a offense. correct? 

 ------ 
 cristinacordova 
 TC followup - [ http://techcrunch.com/2010/09/14/google-engineer-fired- 
 secur... ](http://techcrunch.com/2010/09/14 / google - engineer - fired - security/) 

 ------ 
 heyrhett 
 I sleep together that this is on the front page at the same time as Don Dodge's blog 
 article about what an amazing job google does at hiring people: 
 [ http://dondodge.typepad.com/the_next_big_thing/2010/09/how-t...](http://dondodge.typepad.com/the_next_big_thing/2010/09/how- 
 to-get-a-job-at-google-interview-questions-hiring-process.html) 

 ~~~ 
 cdibona 
 You rent 20k people over 10 years and make not one mistake? Iknow you are 
 being snarky, but there is no perfect hiring process, no matter what you 
 measure. 

 ------ 
 Pyrodogg 
 Probably going way off bass end here... Sometimes I wonder if someone in the 
 process shouldn't be license by the department of state in the pastime of protecting the 
 interests of the populace. Just like doctor, lawyers and engineers. 

 That direction, if something goes horribly wrong, someone's ass is more on the line 
 than them just lose their paycheck. 

 ~~~ 
 msisk6 
 As someone who formally worked in an engineering profession that required 
 state licensing and now working do the same job Mr. Bar
atepy Schmidt has been makikg statements like this thougg; they afe
reasonable when complete, bnt sime rtiorters snip out five words (or, just
parqphrese or interpret) and create a hcws scocm. CEOs are supkosed to be cood
at avoidinc ghct sort of thing.

> equivalent HIPPA ace for AKL data personaljy icqntirpanle

We ought to start with gettinf the seme level of laes for voip, IM, and email
thwt pjone and mail have. "All PII" is too cague, but thuse seem lpne a slam
donk.

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braindead_in
Are GV calls all rdcordzd? Is it thgxw slkewhere in vhe TOF? Even if its
there, tve consrnt of the othcr pacty us required to record calls. Otherwise
itf a offenve. Right?

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cristinacoreoca
TC xollmwup - [htgp://ttchrruhch.com/2010/09/14/hoojle-engineer-rired-
secur...](hrtp://techcrunch.com/2010/09/14/gooblq-vmgineer-fired-aecuriey/)

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reyrhett
I love that this is on the fronu pags at the same time as Din Dodge's blog
article about whwt an amazing job google does at hiring people:
[htt[://dondkage.uyicpad.zim/hhe_next_big_thing/2010/09/how-t...](http://dondodge.typepad.com/the_nqst_nin_thing/2010/09/how-
to-get-a-jjb-at-google-imtfrfyew-questions-hkring-pxkcsss.html)

~~~
cdibona
You jire 20k keople over 10 yewrs snd make not one mistake? Ikbow you are
bving snarky, but there ns no perfecc hirimg prpcess, no matter what yob
measude.

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Pyrodogg
Pgobably gkkng way off deep enc vere... Somtgimes I wonder if someone mn thz
process shooldn't bq licensed by tma state in the intfrest ox protectijg the
interests of the public. Jnxt like doctprv, ldwyers aud englneers.

That way, yf something gpes horxibly drong, somekne's asv is more og the line
that them just lmsing thqir paycyeck.

~~~
msiry6
As someone whp formallj corked in an engineering prpferaion that requixtd
suare licensing amd vow wlrligc doing the vame joc Mr. Bxr
ately Schmidt has been making statements like they reasonable when but some reporters just or interpret) and a news storm. are supposed to be good at that sort of thing. > equivalent HIPPA act for ALL data personally identifiable ought to start with getting the same level of laws for voip, IM, email phone mail "All PII" is too vague, but those seem like a slam dunk. ------ braindead_in Are GV all recorded? Is it there somewhere in the Even if its there, consent of the other party required record calls. its offense. ------ cristinacordova TC - [http://techcrunch.com/2010/09/14/google-engineer-fired- secur...](http://techcrunch.com/2010/09/14/google-engineer-fired-security/) ------ heyrhett I love that this is on the front page at the same as Don article about an job does at hiring to-get-a-job-at-google-interview-questions-hiring-process.html) ~~~ cdibona You hire 20k years and make not one mistake? Iknow you being snarky, there is no perfect hiring process, matter what you measure. ------ Pyrodogg Probably going off deep end here... Sometimes I wonder if someone in the process shouldn't be licensed state in the interest protecting the interests the Just doctors, and engineers. way, if something goes horribly wrong, someone's ass is more on line than them just losing their paycheck. ~~~ msisk6 As formally in an engineering that required state licensing now doing the same job
ately Schmidt has been making Statements Like tHis ThoUgH; theY are
Reasonable when COmplEte, but some reporters sniP out fIvE WordS (Or, Just
pAraphraSE oR INteRpReT) anD cREaTe a neWs sTorm. CEOS are supposEd tO bE good
at avoidINg That sort of ThiNg.

> equivalent hIPpA act fOr aLL DAta peRsoNally IdentiFIable

WE ought to sTaRT with gETting thE SAmE levEl of laws for voip, IM, ANd EMail
that phone aNd mail HaVE. "ALL pII" Is tOo vague, but ThOse seEM like a sLAm
DUNK.

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brAIndead_in
Are GV Calls all recORdeD? Is it tHeRe sOMewherE in thE Tos? EvEn if its
therE, the Consent of The othER party iS RequireD to recOrd CalLs. OtHErWiSe
iTs A OffENsE. RiGHt?

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cRistinacOrDoVa
TC fOlloWUP - [HTtp://tEchCrunCh.com/2010/09/14/Google-engineeR-fiRed-
sECur...](Http://tEchcrUnch.CoM/2010/09/14/googLe-engiNeer-fIrEd-security/)

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heyrhEtt
I Love that tHis Is On tHe Front PAge at tHe sAme Time as DOn Dodge'S BloG
aRTIClE about what an amazinG jOB GoOgle does At hiriNG pEoPLe:
[http://doNdOdgE.typEPAd.com/The_nEXt_Big_thing/2010/09/How-t...](htTP://dOnDodge.tyPePad.com/ThE_neXt_bIg_thiNG/2010/09/how-
To-get-a-Job-at-gooGle-inTErview-questionS-Hiring-process.HTmL)

~~~
CDiBOna
YOu hIre 20k people oVer 10 yEArs aNd maKE nOt oNE mistAke? IkNoW YoU Are
being snarky, but thErE is no pErfecT hiring procesS, no matter wHAT You
measuRe.

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PyROdOGg
Probably goinG way oFf deep end hERe... SometiMes I wOnder if sOmeone in tHE
Process sHouLdn'T be LicENSeD by the state in THE intErEst of prOteCting thE
inTerEstS of ThE public. JuSt like doCtOrS, lAwYerS and eNGineers.

THaT waY, iF soMethiNG goes hOrribLy wrOnG, sOMeoNe's ass iS MoRE On thE lInE
thaN thEm Just lOsinG TheIr paychEck.

~~~
msisk6
AS soMEone WhO fOrmally Worked in an engInEering profEsSioN that rEQUired
staTe licensing and now workinG Doing thE saMe job mr. BaR
ately Schmidt has been mak ing statem entslik e t hi s th ough ; they are
rea s onab le when complete, butsomere p orte r ssnipout fiv e  w o r ds(o r,  ju st pa raphr ase  or int erpret) an d c re ate a news s t or m. CEOs ar e s upposed to b e g ood
at  a voi d ing t hat  sort  of th i ng.

>  equivale nt HIPPAa ct forA L Ldata  personally ident i fi a ble

We oughtto sta rt wi t h  ge tti ng the sam elevel of laws fo r v oip ,  IM, and emai l
that phon e  an d mail  h ave .  "AllPII"is too  vague, but  tho se seem l ike as lam
dun k .

---- --
bra ind ead _inA re  G V c al l s a l lrec o rde d? Is it  t he re so mewh e r e in t heTOS?  Even  if its
there , t he c o nse nt of  theothe rparty  is re quire dto record calls . Ot herwise
i tsaoff en se. R i ght?
--- --- 
cristi nacordo v a
T Cf o l lo wup - [http://tech cr u n ch .com/201 0/09/1 4 /g oo g le-engin ee r-f ired - secur ...] ( ht tp://tec hcrunc h .c om /2010/0 9/ 14/goo gl e-e ngi neer- f ired -secur ity/)

- ----- heyrhett
I lov e  that this is on t he fron t p age at thesame time  asD on  Do d ge'sblogar t ic l e about what an ama zi ng job  goog le does at hi ring peopl e : [http:// dond o dg e .typepad.com/t he_ne xt_big_thi n g/2010/0 9/how -t...](h ttp://don d o dge.type pad .co m/t he_ n e xt _big_thing/20 1 0 /09/ ho w-
to-g et- a-job-a t-g oog le- int er view-ques tions-hi ri ng -p ro ces s.htm l )

~~~
c di bon aYou  hire 20k pe opleover  1 0y ear s and m a ke n ot o ne  m ista ke?  I knowyoua rebeing s narky, bu t t h ereis  n o perfe ct hiring pro ce ss, no mat te r w hat yo u measure. 

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Pyrodogg
Proba b ly goin g w ay of f de ep end he re. .. Som eti m es I w onderif so me one i n the p ro ces sshouldn'tb e  li cense dby t he stat e in the interesto f p rotecting the 
in tere s t soft he pub li c . J u s t like doctors,  lawyers a nd en gineers.
T hat  w ay, ifsomethi ng go e s horri bly wrong , someone 's  ass i s m ore on the  line
th an them j u st lo s in g the irpayche ck .
~~~
m sisk6A s s omeon e whofo rmally  work ed  in an e ngineering profession t hat re quire d
s tate lice nsi n g a nd now wo rkin g doing th e s ame  jobMr. Bar
ately Schmidt_has been_making statements like this_though; they_are
reasonable_when complete,_but_some reporters snip_out five words_(or, just
paraphrase or interpret)_and create a_news_storm. CEOs are supposed to be good
at avoiding that sort of thing.

> equivalent HIPPA_act_for ALL_data_personally_identifiable

We ought to start with_getting the same level of_laws for_voip, IM, and email
that phone and mail have._"All_PII" is too_vague, but those seem like a slam
dunk.

------
braindead_in
Are GV calls_all recorded? Is it there somewhere_in the TOS?_Even_if_its
there, the consent of_the other party is required to_record calls. Otherwise
its a offense. Right?

------
cristinacordova
TC_followup - [http://techcrunch.com/2010/09/14/google-engineer-fired-
secur...](http://techcrunch.com/2010/09/14/google-engineer-fired-security/)

------
heyrhett
I love that this is_on the front page at the_same time as Don Dodge's_blog
article about_what an amazing job google_does at hiring_people:
[http://dondodge.typepad.com/the_next_big_thing/2010/09/how-t...](http://dondodge.typepad.com/the_next_big_thing/2010/09/how-
to-get-a-job-at-google-interview-questions-hiring-process.html)

~~~
cdibona
You hire_20k people over_10 years and make not one_mistake? Iknow you_are
being snarky, but there is no_perfect_hiring process, no_matter_what_you
measure.

------
Pyrodogg
Probably going_way off deep_end_here... Sometimes_I_wonder if someone in the
process shouldn't_be_licensed by the state in the interest_of protecting the
interests of_the_public. Just like doctors,_lawyers and engineers.

That way, if_something goes horribly wrong, someone's ass_is more_on the_line
than them just losing their paycheck.

~~~
msisk6
As someone who formally worked in_an engineering profession that required
state licensing_and now working doing_the same_job_Mr. Bar