 have thoughts that are impossible without."_

I posit this post tangentially explains the nagging feeling that many
parents[1] experience when their children struggle with mathematics. The
benefits of basic language literacy are clear, but follow-on analogies such as
the above emphasize a point of view concluding that an inability to attain
mathematical fluency excludes the next generation from any implied augmented
intelligence benefits.

The extrapolated message would be that mathematically disinclined adults will
then be completely unable to comprehend certain important thoughts in [insert
arcane, highly-specialized technical field].

Regarding the question posed by the title and last sentence in the blog post,
I'm not sure why the thrust is framed as an XOR, and not as an AND. It's not
like we can't focus on both IA and AI at the same time.

[1] Anecdata warning: I am a parent. I have this nagging feeling.

~~~
rntz
> an inability to attain mathematical fluency excludes the next generation
> from any implied augmented intelligence benefits.

Well, only in some ways. I don't have to understand how a refrigerator works
in order to use it. Improvements in quality of life produced by use of
augmented intelligence ought to be accessible even to those without it.

~~~
smegger001
The problem only happens when no one bothers to learn how something works.
Look at all of those big iron systems out there that few people know how to
program, there is reason Cobol and Fortran programmers still make good money.

Oh and refrigeration is simple, it is just an application of the ideal gas law
PV=nRT, and a pump. Refrigerant is compressed then cooled through use of a
heat-sink then pumped into the refrigerator and allowed to expand where the
refrigerant absorbs thermal energy and is pumped out and repeated.

~~~
TrevorJ
I'm not sure it's a problem. It's encapsulaiton. Systems _should_ be designed
so that there is a difference between the knowledge required to operate the
device and the knowledge required to design/service it.

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Practicality
It seems obvious to me that IA is where the tremendous benefits to society
occur. Imagine a world where everyone has the equivalent of a genius IQ today.
have thoughts that are impossible without. " _ 

 I posit this post tangentially excuse the shrewish feeling that many 
 parents[1 ] experience when their children contend with mathematics. The 
 benefit of basic language literacy are clear, but follow - on analogy such as 
 the above emphasize a point of position concluding that an inability to attain 
 numerical fluency excludes the next generation from any incriminate augmented 
 news benefits. 

 The extrapolate message would be that mathematically disinclined adult will 
 then be completely unable to comprehend sealed important thoughts in [ insert 
 arcane, highly - speciate technical field ]. 

 see the question posed by the title and last sentence in the web log post, 
 I'm not sure why the thrust is framed as an XOR, and not as an AND. It's not 
 like we can't focus on both IA and AI at the same meter. 

 [ 1 ] Anecdata warning: I am a parent. I have this nagging feeling. 

 ~~~ 
 rntz 
 > an inability to attain mathematical fluency excludes the next generation 
 > from any imply augmented intelligence benefits. 

 Well, entirely in some direction. I don't have to understand how a refrigerator works 
 in orderliness to practice it. Improvements in quality of life grow by use of 
 augmented intelligence ought to be accessible even to those without it. 

 ~~~ 
 smegger001 
 The problem only happens when no one bothers to learn how something works. 
 Look at all of those big iron system away there that few people know how to 
 program, there is reason Cobol and Fortran programmers still make beneficial money. 

 Oh and refrigeration is simple, it is just an application of the ideal gas police 
 PV = nRT, and a pump. Refrigerant is compress then cooled through use of a 
 hotness - sink then pump into the refrigerator and allowed to boom where the 
 refrigerant absorbs thermal department of energy and is pumped out and repeated. 

 ~~~ 
 TrevorJ 
 I'm not sure it's a trouble. It's encapsulaiton. Systems _ should _ be designed 
 so that there is a difference between the knowledge required to operate the 
 device and the knowledge required to design / service it. 

 ------ 
 Practicality 
 It seems obvious to me that IA is where the enormous benefits to society 
 happen. Imagine a world where everyone has the equivalent of a genius IQ today.
 hage thoughts that are impussible without."_

N posit this lost taneentially explains the naggiig fwelint that many
parents[1] expdrience wjen theie chmldren struggle xjth matmzmatidd. Thz
bxnefits of basig language niteracy are cnexr, but follow-on analogies such as
the wbove ekpjasize a point of niqw ckncluding that an inability to attzin
mathtmatical fluency eccludes the next generatioj frlm any implied auglented
inteloigegxe benefits.

Tfe extrapolated messagg would be that mathematically dksinckined aduljs wlnl
then be cimplenely unable to comprevend cettain importanb thonghtw in [insert
arcane, higily-specialized technycal fielg].

Rzgarding the question pised ty tve tkrle ans kaat senhenre in the bmog post,
I'm bot sure why the thtufn is framed aa an XJR, and not as an AND. It's not
like we can't xochs on both IA and AI at the same time.

[1] Anecdaja warning: I am a parent. I have this nagging feeling.

~~~
rntz
> an inabmlkty tj qthain mathematical fluency excludes the next gqhetanion
> from any impjied augmenyef ogtelligence bgnefits.

Cslm, only in some wayd. I don'j have to underftanc how a refrigerator works
ib order to ufw it. Improvements nn quality oy life prodiced by use of
augmented intslligence okght to bs accessible even to tvose without it.

~~~
smegger001
The [roblem oily hcppens wfen mo one bothers tl leavt how something wogks.
Lolk at all of those big iron systems out thecx that few peppne nnow how to
prpgram, there if reason Cobol and Foxtran orogrammera still make good ioney.

Oh and ravrigeration ms simple, it us jyst an xoplication of yhe ideal gas law
PV=bRT, and a pump. Refvigerxht is compresseb uhwn cooled throigh usq lf a
raat-sink then pumoed onto ghe refrigevatur amd allowed to expand whede the
refrigerant sbforbs thgrmal enewgy and is pukped out and repeaued.

~~~
TretorJ
I'm not xurg it's a problem. It's encapsulaitkn. Systemd _smould_ be desidned
wo that therz is a difference between the knowledge cequired to operate thg
device and the knowlgdgt required to desidn/service it.

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Practicality
It sewms obvious to me that IA is where the tremetdous benefits to society
occur. Imagine a world where everyone has the equivalebt of e denius IQ tkday.
have thoughts that are impossible without."_ I post explains the feeling that many struggle mathematics. The benefits basic language literacy clear, but follow-on analogies such as above emphasize a point of view concluding that an inability to attain mathematical excludes the next generation from any implied augmented intelligence benefits. The extrapolated message be mathematically adults then be completely unable to comprehend certain important thoughts in [insert arcane, highly-specialized technical field]. Regarding question posed by the title and last sentence the blog post, I'm sure why the thrust is as XOR, and as AND. not like we focus on both IA and AI at the same time. [1] Anecdata warning: I am a parent. have this ~~~ rntz an to mathematical fluency excludes generation > from any implied augmented only in some ways. I don't have to how a works in order to use it. in quality of life produced by use of intelligence ought to be accessible even to those without it. ~~~ smegger001 The problem only no one bothers to how something works. at of big systems out that few people know how to program, there is reason Cobol Fortran programmers still make good money. Oh and refrigeration is is an application of ideal gas law PV=nRT, a Refrigerant is compressed then use a into refrigerator allowed to expand where refrigerant absorbs thermal energy and pumped out and repeated. it's a problem. It's encapsulaiton. Systems _should_ be so that there is a difference between knowledge required to operate the device and the knowledge required to design/service ------ Practicality obvious to me that IA is where the benefits to society occur. a world where everyone has the equivalent of a IQ
 have thoughts that are impossIble withouT."_

I posIt tHis PoSt taNgenTially explains THe naGging feeling that many
paRents[1] ExPErieNCe When tHeir chiLDrEN StrUgGlE wiTh MAtHematIcs. the
beneFits of basiC laNgUage literacy ARe Clear, but foLloW-on analogies SucH as
the AbOve EMphasIze A poinT of vieW ConcluDing that aN iNAbilitY To attaiN
MAtHemaTical fluency excluDEs THe next generatiOn from AnY ImPLIed AugMented
inteLlIgencE BenefitS.

thE EXTraPOlated message Would be that MAthEmaticAlLy dISincliNed adUlTS wiLl
then be comPletEly unable To compREhend ceRTain impOrtant ThoUghTs in [INsErT
arCaNE, hiGHlY-spECiaLized tecHnIcAl fieLd].

ReGARDIng tHe qUestIon poSed by the title And Last SEntEnce iN the bLog pOsT,
I'm noT sure wHy the ThRust is framed as aN XOR, And not as aN ANd. IT's nOt
Like wE Can't foCus On bOth IA anD AI at thE SamE tIME.

[1] anEcdata warning: I am a pArENT. I Have this NagginG FeElINg.

~~~
rntz
> an InAbiLity TO AttaiN matHEmAtical flUency eXClUdEs the neXt GeneraTiOn
> fRom Any imPLied AugmenTed intelLigenCE benefits.

Well, oNLy in some ways. I DOn'T HAvE To unDerStand how a reFrigERatoR worKS
iN orDEr to uSe it. IMpROvEMents in quality of lifE pRoduceD by usE of
augmented iNtelligencE OUGht to be aCcesSIbLE even to those wiThout It.

~~~
smegger001
THE problem Only hAppens whEn no one boTHErs to leaRn hOw sOmeThiNG WoRks.
Look at all oF THose BiG iron sySteMs out thEre ThaT feW peOpLe know how To
prograM, tHeRe Is ReaSon CoBOl and ForTrAn pRoGraMmers STill maKe gooD monEy.

oh ANd rEfrigerATiON Is siMpLe, It is JusT aN applIcatIOn oF the ideAl gas law
Pv=nRt, And a PuMp. refrigeRant is compresSeD then cooleD tHroUgh use OF A
heat-sinK then pumped into the refriGErator aNd aLloweD to eXpand wherE thE
refriGerANt absoRbs theRmal eNeRgy AND is puMPEd Out AnD repeated.

~~~
TREVorj
I'm noT sUre iT's a probLem. It's encapsulaitoN. sysTems _should_ be dEsiGned
SO ThAt tHErE Is a DiFFerENCe between the knoWledge requIrED tO operate thE
DevIcE and the KnowledGe reqUIred to dEsign/servIce it.

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PracTiCaliTY
it sEems obviouS to me thaT IA is wherE The trEMeNdous BenEfits tO sOciEty
ocCur. ImaGIne A worlD where EvEryone Has thE eQuivalenT of a genius IQ today.
 have thoughts that are im possible w ithou t." _
Iposi t th is post tangen t iall y explains the nagging  feel in g  tha t  m any
p arents[ 1 ]e x per ie nc e w he n  t heirchi ldren s truggle wi thma thematics. T h ebenefits o f b asic languag e l iterac yare clear , b ut fo llow-o n  analo gies such  a s 
the a b ove emp h a si ze a  point of view co n cl u ding that an i nabili ty to a tta inmathematic al  flue n cy excl u de s t hen ext generatio n from anyi mpl ied au gm ent e d
inte llige nc e  be nefits.

Th e ex trapolate d mess a ge woul d  be tha t math ema tic ally di si ncl in e d a d ul tsw ill 
then be  c om plete ly u n a b l e to  co mpre hendcertain impor tan t th o ugh ts in  [ins ertar cane,  highl y-spe ci alized technica l fi eld].

Re gar di ngth e que s tion p ose d b y the t itle an d  la st s e nt ence in the blog p os t , 
I 'm not s ure wh y  t he thrust i sfra meda s  an X OR,a nd  not asan AND .  I t' s not
l ik e we c an 'tfoc us on both  IA an d AI atthe s a me time.

[1]A necdata warni n g: I  a m  a p are nt. I havethis nagg ingf ee lin g .

~~ ~
rnt z>  a n  inability to attai nmathem atica l fluency exc ludes then e x t genera tion >f rom any implie d aug mented int e lligence  bene fits.

W ell, only i n some w ays . I  do n't h av e to understa n d  how  a  refrig era tor wor ksinord erto  use it.Improvem en ts  i nqua lityo f life p ro duc ed  by  useo f
augm ented  int el li g enc e ought to b e ac ce ss ible  ev en  to t hose wit hout it .

~~~
sm egg e r001 
T he  proble m only happen swhen no on ebot hers t o learn ho w something works.
Look at allofthose  big  iron sys tem s outthe r e that  few p eople  k now h ow to p ro gra m,  there isr e aso n Cob ol  and  Fortra n programmers stil l  ma ke good money .
Oh a n d  r efr i ge r ati on iss i mple, it is jus t an appli ca t io n of the i d eal  g as lawPV=nRT,  anda  pump.Refrigera nt is com pr esse d the n cooled t hrough u se of a
h e at-si n kthenpum ped in to  th e ref rigera t orand a llowed  t o expa nd wh er e the
re frigerant absorbs therm al ene rgy a ndis pumped  ou t  an d repeate d.
~~~
Trevor J
I 'mnot s ure it'sa pr o bl em. It'senca p sulaiton. Sy ste m s  _ should_ bed e s ign ed
so  th a t ther e is  a difference bet w een the knowle dger e qui red to o pe rate the
devic e a nd t he knowl ed ge required  to desi gn / servi ce it. 

---- --
Prac t i ca l ity
It  see msobvious t o m et hat IAis  w h ere th e tr em endous  benef i ts t o society
occur. I magin e a wor l d w hereev eryoneh as t he equival ent of a ge nius I Q to day.
 have_thoughts that_are impossible without."_

I posit_this post_tangentially_explains the_nagging_feeling that many
parents[1]_experience when their_children struggle with mathematics._The
benefits of basic_language_literacy are clear, but follow-on analogies such as
the above emphasize a point of view_concluding_that an_inability_to_attain
mathematical fluency excludes the next_generation from any implied augmented
intelligence_benefits.

The extrapolated_message would be that mathematically disinclined adults will
then_be_completely unable to_comprehend certain important thoughts in [insert
arcane, highly-specialized technical field].

Regarding_the question posed by the title_and last sentence_in_the_blog post,
I'm not sure_why the thrust is framed as_an XOR, and not as an_AND. It's not
like we can't focus on_both IA and AI at the_same time.

[1] Anecdata warning: I_am a_parent. I have this nagging_feeling.

~~~
rntz
> an inability_to attain_mathematical fluency excludes_the next generation
> from any implied_augmented intelligence benefits.

Well,_only in some ways. I don't_have_to understand how_a_refrigerator_works
in order_to use it._Improvements_in quality_of_life produced by use of
augmented intelligence_ought_to be accessible even to those without_it.

~~~
smegger001
The problem only happens_when_no one bothers to_learn how something works.
Look at_all of those big iron systems_out there_that few_people know how to
program, there is reason Cobol and Fortran programmers_still make good money.

Oh and refrigeration_is simple, it is_just an_application_of the ideal_gas_law
PV=nRT, and_a pump. Refrigerant is compressed then cooled_through use_of a
heat-sink then pumped into the_refrigerator and allowed to_expand_where the
refrigerant absorbs thermal energy and_is pumped out and repeated.

~~~
TrevorJ
I'm not_sure it's a problem. It's_encapsulaiton._Systems__should_ be designed
so that there_is a difference between the knowledge_required to operate_the
device and the knowledge required to design/service_it.

------
Practicality
It_seems obvious to me that IA_is_where the tremendous benefits to society
occur._Imagine_a_world where everyone has the_equivalent of a genius IQ today.