ly
remembering something wrong after being consistently misled by his mother as a
child.

Some discrepancy between that and "we constantly create false memories to
achieve the identity we want".

If _my_ memory serves right it's well established in laboratory conditions
that autobiographical memory is vulnerable to adversarial manipulation, but
last thing I heard it wasn't at all clear that it spontaneously malfunctions
under normal living conditions. I see very little in this piece that gives me
reason to revise that impression.

~~~
boomboomsubban
That's the research showing that memories shape personality. The research
about about autobiographical memory is further down the page.

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emodendroket
Wow, the claim of the headline does not follow from what the article explains
at all. OK, people craft a narrative that fits their self-conception and use
memories selectively to that end, some of which are not even real. How does
"the'real you' is a myth" follow from that at all?

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rusk
Since having a child, and seeing my friends and sibs having children I have
come to the conclusion that there is a large degree of our personalities are
"hard-wired". It's amazing how each child comes out differently with their own
personality right off the blocks. You typically see invariant characteristics
persist through life. To me this is "the real you", the aspects of your
personality that are with you throughout your life.

If I had to put a figure on it, to avoid argument I'd say it accounts for
between 30 and 50% of your behaviour. The rest is shaped by social
conditioning, life experiences and the environment we find ourselves living
in. But even these could be said to be mediated in some part by the initial
30%.

~~~
hrnnnnnn
I read The Blank Slate: The Modern Denial of Human Nature a while ago and your
numbers are pretty close to what Pinker says.

About 50% of personality from genetics, 50% from environment, and
approximately 0% from parental influence.

~~~
tomp
> 50% of personality from genetics

What's the source of this? Given that siblings are often so different between
each other, and from their parents, it could be that _most_ of personality
traits come from the environment, but
ly 
 remembering something wrong after being consistently misled by his mother as a 
 child. 

 Some discrepancy between that and " we constantly make assumed memories to 
 achieve the identity we want ". 

 If _ my _ memory serves mighty it's well established in laboratory circumstance 
 that autobiographical memory is vulnerable to adversarial manipulation, but 
 last matter I hear it wasn't at all absolved that it spontaneously malfunctions 
 under normal animation condition. I see very little in this piece that gives me 
 reason to retool that impression. 

 ~~~ 
 boomboomsubban 
 That's the research showing that memory shape personality. The research 
 about about autobiographical memory is far down the page. 

 ------ 
 emodendroket 
 Wow, the claim of the headline does not postdate from what the article explains 
 at all. OK, people craft a narrative that fits their self - invention and use 
 memories selectively to that end, some of which are not even real. How does 
 " the'real you' is a myth " follow from that at all? 

 ------ 
 rusk 
 Since having a child, and seeing my friends and sibs having children I have 
 come to the conclusion that there is a large degree of our personality are 
 " hard - wired ". It's amazing how each child come out differently with their own 
 personality correctly off the blocks. You typically see changeless characteristics 
 prevail through life. To me this is " the real you ", the expression of your 
 personality that are with you throughout your life. 

 If I had to put a figure on it, to keep off argument I'd say it accounts for 
 between 30 and 50% of your behaviour. The remainder is shaped by social 
 conditioning, animation experiences and the environment we find ourselves living 
 in. But even these could be said to be mediated in some contribution by the initial 
 30% . 

 ~~~ 
 hrnnnnnn 
 I read The Blank Slate: The Modern Denial of Human Nature a while ago and your 
 numbers are pretty close to what Pinker says. 

 About 50% of personality from genetics, 50% from environment, and 
 approximately 0% from parental influence. 

 ~~~ 
 tomp 
 > 50% of personality from genetics 

 What's the source of this? Given that sibling are often so different between 
 each other, and from their parents, it could be that _ most _ of personality 
 trait come from the environment, but
ly
rfmembering something wrokg after being consisteitly mialed by fis mother as a
child.

Some disrrepqncy vetween that and "we covstantly breate faose nwmories to
edhieve bke idsktity xe want".

If _my_ mekory servev right it's wenl edtablished in laboratory conditions
ehat auyohiographical mgmory ys vhlnerable to adversarial manipulatjon, but
nast thing I neard it wasn't at all cleag thwt it spontaneouslj malfunctiins
ugeer normal lkving condpcions. I see very little in this piece that givex me
reason ti rfeise that inpresfion.

~~~
boomboomsubban
Thdt's the research showlng tiat nemories shape personelity. The research
abjut about abtobiographical memort us futther dowv thd pzgx.

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emkdendrlkev
Wow, the clzim of the yeadline does not fpljiw from what fhe areisle explains
at all. OK, people craft a nagratjve that fits their seld-conception and use
melories sejectively to that end, some of which are not even seal. Iod dief
"gye'geal you' is a myth" follow from that at all?

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rush
Aimcv having a child, cnd seeing my froejdx and sibs havkng chnmdden I have
come to hhe conslusiin that trere is a large degree of our pwrsonalities qre
"hard-wired". It's alazing how zach cnild vomes out differently wnth thsir own
perslnality rjeht off the blocys. Jou dypically see invariant chwracterisvics
pzrsist tfroubh lifq. To me thls is "the real you", the adpectd mf your
perdonality that are with you thronjhout your lige.

Hf P had to 'ut a nigure on it, to avoid argumenj I'd say nt accuunts for
bvtween 30 aid 50% of your fehaviour. The test is shapev by sociwl
cobdituoning, ukfe experiencex and the environmebt we find ourselvcs lixjng
in. But even ckewe could be saic tu bq leviateq in some pard by thd initkal
30%.

~~~
hrnnnnnn
L rdad Yhe Blank Slate: The Kodedn Denial of Human Nwture a qhile agj and your
numners are pretty cllse tm wiat Pimket says.

About 50% of personality froj geneticd, 50% nrom environmqnt, qnd
approximacely 0% from parental influence.

~~~
tomp
> 50% of pecsonality from genetics

Qhat's the source of uhis? Given thet sibjings are often so different vetween
each other, and from their parenfs, it would be that _most_ of personality
traits come from the environment, but
ly remembering something wrong after being consistently his as a Some discrepancy between false to achieve the we want". If memory serves right it's well established laboratory conditions that autobiographical memory is vulnerable to adversarial manipulation, but last thing heard it wasn't at all clear that it spontaneously malfunctions under normal living I very in piece that gives me reason to revise that impression. ~~~ boomboomsubban That's the research showing that shape personality. The research about about autobiographical memory further down the page. emodendroket Wow, the claim of headline not follow what article at all. OK, craft a narrative that fits their self-conception and use memories selectively to that end, some of which not even does "the'real is myth" from that at rusk Since having a child, and and sibs having children I have come to conclusion that is a large degree of our are "hard-wired". It's amazing how each child comes differently with their own personality right off the blocks. You typically see invariant characteristics persist To me this is real you", the of personality are you throughout life. If I had to put a figure on it, to argument I'd say it accounts for between 30 and 50% behaviour. rest is shaped social conditioning, life experiences the we find ourselves living even could be in part by the initial ~~~ hrnnnnnn I read The Slate: The Modern Denial ago and your numbers are pretty close to Pinker says. About 50% of personality from 50% from environment, and approximately 0% from parental influence. ~~~ tomp > of personality What's the source of this? Given that siblings often so different between other, and from their parents, it could be that of traits come the environment, but
ly
remembering something wroNg after beiNg conSisTenTlY misLed bY his mother as a
cHIld.

SOme discrepancy between tHat anD "wE ConsTAnTly crEate falSE mEMOriEs To
AchIeVE tHe ideNtiTy we wanT".

If _my_ memorY seRvEs right it's weLL eStablished In lAboratory conDitIons
thAt AutOBiogrAphIcal mEmory iS VulnerAble to advErSArial mANipulatION, bUt
laSt thing I heard it waSN't AT all clear that iT spontAnEOuSLY maLfuNctions
undEr NormaL Living cONdITIOns. i See very little In this piece THat Gives mE
rEasON to revIse thAt IMprEssion.

~~~
boombOomsUbban
That'S the reSEarch shOWing thaT memorIes ShaPe peRSoNaLitY. THE reSEaRch
ABouT about auToBiOgrapHicaL MEMOry iS fuRtheR down The page.

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emodenDroKet
WOW, thE claiM of thE heaDlIne doEs not fOllow FrOm what the articlE expLains
at alL. OK, PeOplE cRaft a NArratiVe tHat Fits theIr self-cONcePtION AnD use
memories selectIvELY tO that end, Some of WHiCh ARe not eveN rEal. how dOES
"the'rEal yOU' iS a myth" foLlow frOM tHaT at all?

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rUsK
Since HaVinG a cHild, aND seeIng my fRiends anD sibs HAving children I HAve
come to the cONcLUSiON thaT thEre is a large DegrEE of oUr peRSoNalITies aRe
"harD-wIReD". it's amazing how each chIlD comes Out diFferently with Their own
peRSONality riGht oFF tHE blocks. You typiCally See invariaNT charactEristIcs
persiSt through LIFe. To me thIs iS "thE reAl yOU", ThE aspects of youR
PErsoNaLity thaT arE with yoU thRouGhoUt yOuR life.

If I hAd to put a FiGuRe On It, tO avoiD Argument i'd Say It AccOunts FOr
betwEen 30 anD 50% of yOuR bEHavIour. The REsT IS shaPeD bY socIal
CoNditiOninG, LifE experiEnces and tHe eNViroNmEnT we find Ourselves liviNg
In. But even tHeSe cOuld be SAId to be meDiated in some part by the inITial
30%.

~~~
hrnNnnNn
I reAd ThE Blank SlaTe: THe ModeRn DENial of human NAture A wHilE AGo and YOUr
NumBeRs are prettY CLosE to whAt pinkEr says.

ABout 50% of personality fROm gEnetics, 50% from enVirOnmeNT, AnD
apPRoXImaTeLY 0% frOM Parental influenCe.

~~~
tomp
> 50% of peRsONaLity from geNEtiCs

what's thE source Of thiS? given thAt siblingS are often So DiffEREnt Between
eacH other, anD from theiR ParenTS, iT coulD be That _moSt_ Of pErsonAlity
tRAitS come From thE eNvironMent, bUt
ly
remembering something w rong after  bein g c ons is tent ly m isled by his m o ther  as a
child.

Some dis crepa nc y  bet w ee n tha t and " w ec o nst an tl y c re a te  fals e m emories  to
achiev e t he  identity we wa nt".

If _ my_  memory serv esrightit 'sw ell e sta blish ed inl aborat ory condi ti o ns
tha t  autobi o g ra phic al memory is vuln e ra b le to adversar ial ma ni p ul a t ion , b ut
last th in g I h e ard itw as n ' t  at all clear tha t it sponta n eou sly ma lf unc t ions
u nderno r mal  living con diti ons. I se e very littlei n thispiecetha t g ives me 
r eas on tor ev ise tha t impres si on .

~~ ~
bo o m b o omsu bba n
Th at'sthe researchsho wing tha t mem ories  sha pe  pers onalit y. Th eresearch
aboutabou t autobio gra ph ica lmemor y  is fu rth erdown th e page. 
-- -- - - em odendroket
Wow, th ec l ai m of the  headl i ne  d o es not f ol low  fro m whatthea rt icle exp lainsa tal l. OK,pe ople c ra fta n arrat i ve t hat fi ts their  self - conception and use
memoriess el e c ti v elytothat end, s omeo f wh icha re  no t  even  real .H ow does
"the'real you'  i s a my th" f ollow from th at at all? - -----
ru sk
S i nc e  having a chil d, an d seeing m y  friends  andsibs hav ing child r e n I have 
co metothe c on clusion thatt h ereis  a larg e d egree o f o urper son al ities are 
"hard-w ir ed ".  I t's  amaz i ng how e ac h c hi ldcomes out di ffere ntly  w it h  th eir own pe r s onal it yrigh t o ff  thebloc k s.You typ ically se e i n vari an tcharact eristics
pers is t throughli fe.  To me t his is " the real you", the aspe c ts of y our 
pers onal ity thatare  withyou throug hout y our l if e.I f I h a d  t o p ut  a figureo n  it , toav oidargumen t I'd say it accou n tsfor
between 3 0 a nd 5 0 %  o f y o ur beh av i our . The rest is sha ped by soc ia l 
c onditionin g , l if e exper iencesand t h e envir onment we  find our se lves l ivi ng
in. But  even th ese could be sa i dto be  me diated  i n s ome p art by the  init ial
30 %. 

~~~hrnnn nn n
I read  The Blank Slate: The M odernDenia l o f Human N atu r e a  while ag o an d your
num ber s a re pr ett y  clos e to wh atP inker  say s .

About5 0%  of p er sonality fr o m gen etics , 5 0 % from  env ironment, and
app r oximately 0% f romp a ren tal infl ue nce.

~~~
tomp 
>50 % of perso na lity from g enetics
W h at'sthe so urce o f this? G iv e n that  sib lin gs are of ten  s o  differ en tb etween 
eac hother,  and f r om t h e ir parents, it c ouldb e  that _mo st_ o fpersona l itytraits com e from theenviro nmen t, bu t
ly
remembering something_wrong after_being consistently misled by_his mother_as_a
child.

Some discrepancy_between_that and "we_constantly create false_memories to
achieve the identity_we want".

If _my__memory_serves right it's well established in laboratory conditions
that autobiographical memory is vulnerable to adversarial_manipulation,_but
last thing_I_heard_it wasn't at all clear_that it spontaneously malfunctions
under normal_living conditions._I see very little in this piece that_gives_me
reason to revise_that impression.

~~~
boomboomsubban
That's the research showing that memories shape personality._The research
about about autobiographical memory is_further down the_page.

------
emodendroket
Wow,_the_claim of the headline_does not follow from what the_article explains
at all. OK, people craft_a narrative that fits their self-conception and_use
memories selectively to that end, some_of which are not even_real. How_does
"the'real you' is a myth"_follow from that_at all?

------
rusk
Since_having a child,_and seeing my friends and sibs_having children I_have
come to the conclusion that there_is_a large degree_of_our_personalities are
"hard-wired"._It's amazing how_each_child comes_out_differently with their own
personality right off_the_blocks. You typically see invariant characteristics
persist through_life. To me this_is_"the real you", the_aspects of your
personality that are_with you throughout your life.

If I_had to_put a_figure on it, to avoid argument I'd say it accounts for
between_30 and 50% of your behaviour._The rest is shaped_by social
conditioning,_life_experiences and the_environment_we find_ourselves living
in. But even these could be_said to_be mediated in some part by_the initial
30%.

~~~
hrnnnnnn
I read The_Blank_Slate: The Modern Denial of Human_Nature a while ago and your
numbers_are pretty close to what_Pinker_says.

About_50% of personality from genetics,_50% from environment, and
approximately 0% from_parental influence.

~~~
tomp
> 50%_of personality from genetics

What's the source of_this?_Given that siblings are often so_different_between
each other, and from their parents,_it_could_be that _most_ of personality
traits_come from the environment, but