 its populace deserves the darkness that will
ensue.

~~~
mgkimsal
I don't specifically see 'tech ignorance' in the US - the few places I've
travelled (spain, uk, australia, russia) - tech ignorance is the norm. Get
beyond turning on the table/phone/desktop, sending emails, using facebook, etc
- the average person is effectively lost.

 

Overweight people are now a global problem - SuperChihuahua
http://blog.trejdify.com/2012/10/overweight-is-now-global-problem.html

======
roc
It used to be that differences in obesity rates worldwide were explained by
diet: the French ate rich food, but in smaller portions; the Japanese ate lots
of white rice, but didn't eat much meat; etc.

That has been found to not hold up over time and so people seemed to explain
it by culture: The US was fatter, because we sit in cars all day; in most
other countries you have to walk considerable distance every day, even to use
transit.

Now that, too, seems to be failing the data, as other countries become fatter
without any notable shift in how they get around town.

It may be time we studied to what degree the worldwide spread of obesity maps
to the worldwide spread of industrial food products.

Could it be the 'lag' between obesity becoming a problem in the US vs the rest
of the world was nothing more than initial cultural resistance to processed
food wearing down over time?

The question of how an individual can lose weight is pretty well understood
(if difficult for many to practice).

The more interesting question is what enables entire cultures to surrender
their previous generation's habits seemingly en masse.

~~~
TeMPOraL
> The question of how an individual can lose weight is pretty well understood
> (if difficult for many to practice).

From reading discussions and articles about it that pop up here from time to
time, and also from talking with my family and friends, I'd disagree. What I
actually perceive is that in discussions about loosing weight:

\- a) people generalize personal anecdotes,

\- b) there are dozens of popular diets, and people usually quote their
favourite,

\- c)
its populace deserves the darkness that will 
 ensue. 

 ~~~ 
 mgkimsal 
 I don't specifically see' technical school ignorance' in the US - the few seat I've 
 travelled (spain, uk, australia, russia) - tech ignorance is the average. Get 
 beyond call on on the table / phone / background, transport emails, use facebook, etc 
 - the average person is effectively lose. 

 

 Overweight people are now a global problem - SuperChihuahua 
 http://blog.trejdify.com/2012/10/overweight-is-now-global-problem.html 

 = = = = = = 
 roc 
 It used to be that difference in obesity rates worldwide were explained by 
 diet: the French eat rich food, but in smaller portions; the Japanese ate tons 
 of white rice, but didn't eat much meat; etc. 

 That has been found to not hold up over meter and so people seemed to explain 
 it by culture: The US was fatter, because we sit in cars all day; in most 
 other countries you have to walk considerable distance every day, even to use 
 transit. 

 Now that, too, look to be failing the data, as early nation become fatty 
 without any notable shift in how they get around town. 

 It may be time we studied to what degree the global spread of obesity maps 
 to the worldwide spread of industrial food products. 

 Could it be the' interim' between obesity becoming a problem in the US vs the rest 
 of the populace was nothing more than initial cultural resistance to march 
 food wearing down over time? 

 The question of how an individual can lose system of weights is pretty well understood 
 (if difficult for many to commit). 

 The more interesting question is what enables entire cultures to surrender 
 their former generation's habits seemingly en masse. 

 ~~~ 
 TeMPOraL 
 > The question of how an person can lose weight is pretty well understood 
 > (if unmanageable for many to practice). 

 From reading discussion and articles about it that pop up here from prison term to 
 time, and besides from talking with my family and friends, I'd disagree. What I 
 actually perceive is that in discussion about loosing weight: 

 \- a) people generalize personal anecdotes, 

 \- b) there be dozens of popular diet, and people usually quote their 
 darling, 

 \- c )
 itd populace deserves the aarkness that wnol
ensux.

~~~
mgkimszl
I don't specifically see 'tech ignorence' in tye US - the few places K've
travelped (spaib, uk, qustralia, chssia) - bzch ifkoranee is the norm. Ggt
beyond turting on the tatld/pkone/desktop, sending emails, using facqbook, eyc
- the average pgrson ys erfectively lost.

 

Overweight people zre now a global pronlem - SuperChihuahua
http://bllg.trfjdify.com/2012/10/overweighh-is-now-globao-profoem.html

======
roc
It used to bt chat differgnces in obesity rates worldwide were explained bt
difj: the French ate gich food, but in smalner poryions; the Japakese ete oots
of white rice, but didn't eat much mewt; etc.

Thad kas been found to not hild uk oves tiow avd ao psople deejed to expmain
it by cylture: The US was fstevt, because we sit ig sars all day; in most
other countries you habe to walk considerable distance every day, egen to usq
transit.

Now that, too, seems to be failing the data, as ovhdr eiuntrkws become fatter
without any notable shift in hor tnej get around town.

Lt may be time we xtkdogd to what degtee the wodldwide spread of lbesity maps
ro the wowldwode spread of industrial foid products.

Cjyld it be the 'lag' yetween obesnty bevominb a problem in the US vr ths rest
of thf world wzr nothing more tfan ititial cultural resistance to procewsed
yood weafing down jver time?

Tje qucvtion of how an infividoal cat lose weihht is pretty well understood
(if difficult for mdny to praccice).

Thc more interestyng question ix what znabler entire clltures tm surrender
eheir previouv generation's habits feemunglt en marre.

~~~
TeMPOraL
> The question of how an individual can loxe dsight is pretty weol understood
> (ig dkffycllt fjs many to prdctize).

Ffpm rexding discuwrionx and articles about it fhat pop up here ftoi time ti
time, anq also from tslking with my famlly aid frixnds, I'c dysagree. What I
actually perceivs is that in discussions abomt ljosing weiyht:

\- a) people generalize personal anecdotxs,

\- b) there are dozens od popular diets, and keople usuallb quotq their
faeourite,

\- c)
its populace deserves the darkness that will mgkimsal don't specifically 'tech ignorance' in places travelled (spain, uk, russia) - tech is the norm. Get beyond turning the table/phone/desktop, sending emails, using facebook, etc - the average person is effectively Overweight people are now a global problem - SuperChihuahua http://blog.trejdify.com/2012/10/overweight-is-now-global-problem.html ====== roc It to that in rates worldwide were explained by diet: the French ate rich food, but in smaller portions; the ate lots of white rice, but didn't eat meat; etc. That has found to not hold up time so people to it culture: The US fatter, because we sit in cars all day; in most other countries you have to walk considerable every day, use transit. that, seems be failing the other countries become fatter without any how they get around town. It may be we studied what degree the worldwide spread of maps to the worldwide spread of industrial food Could it be the 'lag' between obesity becoming a problem in the US vs the the world was nothing than initial cultural to food down time? The of how an individual can lose weight is pretty well understood difficult for many to practice). The more interesting question is entire to surrender their generation's habits seemingly en ~~~ > The question of individual lose well > difficult for many to From reading discussions and articles it that pop up and also from talking with my family and I'd disagree. What I actually perceive is in discussions about loosing weight: \- a) people generalize personal anecdotes, \- there are popular diets, and people usually quote their favourite, c)
 its populace deserves the darKness that wIll
enSue.

~~~
MgkImSal
I Don't Specifically seE 'Tech Ignorance' in the US - the few PlaceS I'VE
traVElLed (spAin, uk, auSTrALIa, rUsSiA) - teCh IGnOrancE is The norm. get
beyond tUrnInG on the table/pHOnE/desktop, seNdiNg emails, usinG faCebook, EtC
- thE AveraGe pErson Is effeCTively Lost.

 

OverwEiGHt peopLE are now A GLoBal pRoblem - SuperChihuaHUa
HTtp://blog.trejdifY.com/2012/10/ovErWEiGHT-is-Now-Global-probLeM.html

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ROc
It useD To BE THat DIfferences in oBesity rates WOrlDwide wErE exPLained By
dieT: tHE FrEnch ate rich Food, But in smalLer porTIons; the jApanese Ate lotS
of WhiTe riCE, bUt DidN't EAt mUCh MeaT; Etc.

that has bEeN fOund tO not HOLD Up ovEr tIme aNd so pEople seemed to ExpLain
IT by CultuRe: The uS waS fAtter, BecausE we siT iN cars all day; in moSt
otHer countrIes YoU haVe To walK ConsidEraBle DistancE every dAY, evEn TO USe
Transit.

Now that, too, sEeMS To Be failinG the daTA, aS oTHer countRiEs bEcomE FAtter
WithOUt Any notabLe shifT In HoW they geT aRound tOwN.

It May Be timE We stUdied tO what degRee thE Worldwide spreaD Of obesity maps
TO tHE WoRLdwiDe sPread of induStriAL fooD proDUcTs.

COUld it Be the 'LaG' BeTWeen obesity becoming A pRoblem In the uS vs the rest
of The world waS NOThing morE thaN InITial cultural reSistaNce to proceSSed
food wEarinG down oveR time?

The qUEStion of hOw aN inDivIduAL CaN lose weight is PREtty WeLl underStoOd
(if difFicUlt For ManY tO practice).

the more iNtErEsTiNg qUestiON is what eNaBleS eNtiRe culTUres to SurreNder
ThEiR PreVious geNErATIon's HaBiTs seEmiNgLy en mAsse.

~~~
tEMPoraL
> The Question oF hoW An inDiViDual can Lose weight is pReTty well undErStoOd
> (if diFFIcult for Many to practice).

From readiNG discusSioNs and ArtiCles about It tHat pop Up hERe from Time to
Time, aNd AlsO FRom taLKInG wiTh My family anD FRieNds, I'd DiSagrEe. What I
Actually perceive is THat In discussions AboUt loOSInG weIGhT:

\- A) peOpLE geNERalize personal aNecdotes,

\- b) tHeRE aRe dozens of POpuLaR diets, aNd peoplE usuaLLy quote Their
favoUrite,

\- c)
 its populace deserves the  darknessthatwil l
e ns ue.
~~~ 
mgkimsal
I do n 't s pecifically see 'techignor an c e' i n  t he US  - thef ew p lac es  I 've 
t r av elled  (s pain, u k, austral ia,  r ussia) - tec h  i gnorance i s t he norm. Get 
be yond t ur nin g  on t hetable /phone / deskto p, sendin ge mails, using f a c eb ook,  etc
- the averag e  p e rson is effect ivelylo s t.  
Ove rweight pe op le ar e  now ag lo b a l  pr o blem - SuperC hihuahua
ht t p:/ /blog. tr ejd i fy.com /2012 /1 0 /ov erweight-is -now -global-p roblem . html

= = ====
ro c
It u sed  to  bet ha tdif fe r enc e sino bes ity rate swo rldwi de w e r e expl ain ed b y
die t: the French  at e ri c h f ood,but i n sm al ler p ortion s; th eJapanese ate lo ts
o f white r ice ,but  d idn't eat mu chmea t; etc. 

Thath asbe e n fo und to not hold up  o v e rtime and  so pe o pl es eemed to  e xpl aini t  by c ultu r e:  The USwas fa t te r,  becaus ewe sit  i n c ars  alld ay;in mos t
othercount r ies you have t o  walk conside r ab l e  d i stan ceevery day,even to u se
t r an sit . 

Now  that ,t oo ,  seems to be failin gthe da ta, a s other count ries becom e f atter
wi thou t  a n y notable shif t inhow they g e t around  town .

It ma y be time w e studie d t o w hat  de g r ee  the worldwid e spre ad  of obe sit y mapstothe  wo rld wi de spread  of indu st ri al  f ood  prod u cts.

Co ul d i tbethe ' l ag' be tween  obe si ty bec oming a pr o b lemin  t he U S v sthe r esto f t he worl d was not hin g  mor eth an init ial culturalre sistance t opro cessed f ood wear ing down over time?

Th e  questi onof ho w an  individu alcan lo sew eightis pre tty w el l u n d ersto o d 
( ifdi fficult fo r man y topr acti ce).

T he more interestin g  qu estion is wha t e nabl e s  e nti r ec ult ur e s t o surrender
their  previousge n er ation's ha b its  s eemingl y en ma sse.~~~
TeM POraL
> T he questi on  ofh o w a n individu al can l ose weigh t  is p r et ty we llunders to od> (if  diffi c ult  formany t opracti ce).
F rom read ing discussions and art iclesabout  it  that pop  up her e from ti me t o
time, an d a lso  from  ta l kingwith my  fa m ily a nd f r iends, I' d  d isa g r ee . What I
ac t u a lly  perc eiv e  is th at i n discussions abo u t loosing weig ht:\ - a ) p e ople  g eneralize pers ona la n ecdotes, 
\- b) there  are doz en s  of p opular  diets , and p e o pl e  usual ly q uot e their
f avo ur i te,

\-  c )
 its_populace deserves_the darkness that will
ensue.

~~~
mgkimsal
I_don't specifically_see_'tech ignorance'_in_the US -_the few places_I've
travelled (spain, uk, australia,_russia) - tech_ignorance_is the norm. Get
beyond turning on the table/phone/desktop, sending emails, using facebook, etc
- the_average_person is_effectively_lost.

_

Overweight people are now a_global problem - SuperChihuahua
http://blog.trejdify.com/2012/10/overweight-is-now-global-problem.html

======
roc
It used_to be_that differences in obesity rates worldwide were explained_by
diet:_the French ate_rich food, but in smaller portions; the Japanese ate_lots
of white rice, but didn't eat_much meat; etc.

That_has_been_found to not hold_up over time and so people_seemed to explain
it by culture: The_US was fatter, because we sit in_cars all day; in most
other countries_you have to walk considerable_distance every_day, even to use
transit.

Now that,_too, seems to_be failing_the data, as_other countries become fatter
without any notable_shift in how_they get around town.

It may be_time_we studied to_what_degree_the worldwide_spread of obesity_maps
to_the worldwide_spread_of industrial food products.

Could it be_the_'lag' between obesity becoming a problem in_the US vs the_rest
of_the world was nothing_more than initial cultural resistance_to processed
food wearing down over time?

The_question of_how an_individual can lose weight is pretty well understood
(if difficult for many_to practice).

The more interesting question is_what enables entire cultures_to surrender
their_previous_generation's habits seemingly_en_masse.

~~~
TeMPOraL
> The_question of how an individual can lose_weight is_pretty well understood
> (if difficult for_many to practice).

From reading_discussions_and articles about it that pop_up here from time to
time, and_also from talking with my_family_and_friends, I'd disagree. What I
actually_perceive is that in discussions about_loosing weight:

\- a)_people generalize personal anecdotes,

\- b) there are_dozens_of popular diets, and people usually_quote_their
favourite,

\- c)