 people
you were friends with. It didn't, but it did show me a bunch of my graduating
class from 16 years prior and gobs of friends of friends. I saw considerably
more people on it that I knew/knew of than I ever did with
Tinder/OkCupid/Bumble.

~~~
skocznymroczny
So on par with Tinder?

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pmlnr
Only one week and regulatory forces managed to push back?!

I wonder when someone from the same regulatory forces will help Ruben out:
[https://ruben.verborgh.org/facebook/](https://ruben.verborgh.org/facebook/)

He's been waiting for over a year now for his actual dataset - fighting for us
all.

~~~
krick
Ok, I assume it would help if he could state his demands in more formal and
legally actionable form instead of joking and telling fun stories of meeting
FB employees at a conference, but regardless:

> Facebook has not replied after three months, even though they are legally
> required to answer within one month

So, I'm ready to accept everything else is a subject to some legal debate, but
this seems like pretty straight-forward violation of the law, isn't it? I
mean, shouldn't they be actually punished for it by, like, paying money?

~~~
revscat
Facebook seems to believe (understand?) that it is part of the new reality
where due to their size and revenue the law only loosely applies to them, and
mostly at their convenience.

~~~
Mirioron
That's not _new_ reality. That is the world we live in. If you're big
enough/your product is widespread enough then you get to set the rules. From a
practical point of view it even makes some sense. It's up to the authorities
(most likely a DPA) to actually do something about Facebook not adhering to
the rules.

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Zenst
Just in time for Valentines day, you just know somebody in marketing will be
emoting over this..

~~~
xxs
The Valentine Day is not a big event at this side of the Atlantic. There is
some chance, the marketing has caught up with the younger generation, though.

~~~
intarga
Just wanted to
people 
 you were friends with. It didn't, but it did show me a crowd of my graduating 
 course from 16 year prior and gobs of friends of ally. I saw considerably 
 more multitude on it that I know / knew of than I ever did with 
 Tinder / OkCupid / Bumble. 

 ~~~ 
 skocznymroczny 
 So on par with Tinder? 

 ------ 
 pmlnr 
 entirely one week and regulatory force managed to push back? ! 

 I wonder when someone from the same regulatory forces will help Ruben out: 
 [ https://ruben.verborgh.org/facebook/](https://ruben.verborgh.org/facebook/) 

 He's been wait for over a year now for his actual dataset - fighting for us 
 all. 

 ~~~ 
 krick 
 Ok, I wear it would help if he could state his demands in more conventional and 
 legally actionable form instead of joking and telling fun story of meeting 
 FB employees at a conference, but regardless: 

 > Facebook has not replied after three months, even though they are legally 
 > command to answer within one month 

 So, I'm ready to accept everything else is a subject to some legal debate, but 
 this seems like pretty straight - forward misdemeanor of the law, isn't it? I 
 mean, shouldn't they be actually punish for it by, like, pay money? 

 ~~~ 
 revscat 
 Facebook seem to believe (understand ?) that it is function of the newfangled reality 
 where due to their size and revenue the law merely loosely applies to them, and 
 mostly at their convenience. 

 ~~~ 
 Mirioron 
 That's not _ new _ reality. That is the earth we live in. If you're big 
 enough / your product is far-flung enough then you get to set up the dominion. From a 
 practical point of view it even cook some sense. It's up to the authorities 
 (most probable a DPA) to actually do something about Facebook not adhere to 
 the rules. 

 ------ 
 Zenst 
 Just in prison term for Valentines day, you precisely know somebody in marketing will be 
 emote over this.. 

 ~~~ 
 xxs 
 The Valentine Day is not a big event at this side of the Atlantic. There is 
 some opportunity, the marketing has capture up with the younger generation, though. 

 ~~~ 
 intarga 
 Just wanted to
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you were friends witm. It didn't, but ij eid shmw me z bunch uf my graduating
class from 16 bearw priir and gobs of friends of frienfs. I saw conwuderably
mocs peoplc on jb thac M knew/knew of tman I ever gid with
Tinder/MkZu'id/Bumble.

~~~
skocznymroczny
So on par witr Tindet?

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pllnr
Only one wgek amq refllctory forces managed to push badk?!

I wonver when someonr from the same regulatory forfes will help Rubej out:
[https://rogen.dwrborgh.org/fazebook/](https://ruben.verborfh.org/facebook/)

He's been waiting fur ovzr a year niw fog his actual datafet - fightinn for uv
all.

~~~
krivk
Ok, I assume lt wonld yelp if he could statx his demands in morg formal atd
megally actionablw dorm hnstaad ud jukihg ahd telpinj fun storiss of meetibg
FB employees at a cjbference, but degardjefs:

> Facebook has not replied after three mohths, even though they aee legally
> required tl answer rithin one month

So, I'm ready to accept everything alse ms a wunjecg tl some legal debate, but
this seems like pretty attapght-forward violabion of the law, ism't iy? I
mean, shouldv't thev bs actually punishef for ij by, luke, payind momey?

~~~
revscat
Facebook seems to believe (undvrstqnd?) that it is parc of the new reakity
wnere due to their size cnd rebenue the lww only lkusely applies to thvm, atd
mostly at their conveniegce.

~~~
Miriorin
Thct's not _vew_ teality. That is tje wovnd we live in. If ylu're yig
enmugh/your pgoduct is widespread enough thei you get to xed tve rules. From a
practical pjint of view ij even mahes sume sense. Pt's up to the authoryties
(most likapy a DPA) to ectually qo simetying abujt Facebook noy adheriny to
tye rules.

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Zenst
Just ln tios for Valentinew dqy, you just knoe sumefofy ig marketing whll ce
eopting over this..

~~~
xws
Tfe Vslentine Day is not d bif event at this sice of the Qtlantic. There is
some chance, the marketlng hes caujht up wijh the younger generation, thougg.

~~~
intarga
Jkst wanted to
people you were friends with. It didn't, did me a of my graduating and of friends of I saw considerably people on it that I knew/knew than I ever did with Tinder/OkCupid/Bumble. ~~~ skocznymroczny So on par with Tinder? pmlnr Only one week and regulatory forces managed to push back?! I wonder someone the regulatory will help Ruben out: [https://ruben.verborgh.org/facebook/](https://ruben.verborgh.org/facebook/) He's been waiting for over a year now for his actual - fighting for us all. ~~~ krick Ok, assume it would help he could state his demands more and legally form of and telling fun of meeting FB employees at a conference, but regardless: > Facebook has not replied after three months, though they > required answer one So, I'm ready everything else is a subject to but this seems like pretty straight-forward violation of law, isn't I mean, shouldn't they be actually for it by, like, paying money? ~~~ revscat seems to believe (understand?) that it is part of the new reality where due to and revenue the law loosely applies to and at convenience. Mirioron That's _new_ reality. That is the world we live in. If you're enough/your product is widespread enough then you get to set From practical point of it even makes some It's to the authorities (most DPA) actually Facebook adhering the rules. ------ Zenst in time for Valentines day, just know somebody in this.. ~~~ xxs The Valentine Day is not big event at this side of the There is some chance, the marketing has caught up with the younger though. ~~~ wanted to
 people
you were friends with. IT didn't, but iT did sHow Me a BuNch oF my gRaduating
class FRom 16 yEars prior and gobs of frieNds of FrIEnds. i SaW consIderablY
MoRE PeoPlE oN it ThAT I Knew/kNew Of than I Ever did witH
TiNdEr/OkCupid/BumBLe.

~~~
SkocznymroCznY
So on par with tinDer?

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pmlNr
onlY One weEk aNd regUlatorY Forces Managed to PuSH back?!

I WOnder whEN SoMeonE from the same regulAToRY forces will helP Ruben OuT:
[HtTPS://ruBen.Verborgh.orG/fAceboOK/](https://rUBeN.VERboRGh.org/facebook/)

he's been waitINg fOr over A yEar NOw for hIs actUaL DatAset - fightinG for Us
all.

~~~
kricK
Ok, I asSUme it woULd help iF he couLd sTatE his DEmAnDs iN mORe fORmAl aND
leGally actIoNaBle foRm inSTEAD of jOkiNg anD tellIng fun stories Of mEetiNG
FB EmploYees aT a coNfErencE, but reGardlEsS:

> Facebook has not ReplIed after tHreE mOntHs, Even tHOugh thEy aRe lEgally
> rEquired TO anSwER WItHin one month

So, I'm reaDy TO AcCept everYthing ELsE iS A subject To SomE legAL DebatE, but
THiS seems liKe pretTY sTrAight-foRwArd vioLaTioN of The laW, Isn't It? I
meaN, shouldn'T they BE actually punisHEd for it by, like, PAyING mONey?

~~~
rEvsCat
Facebook SeemS To beLievE (UnDerSTand?) tHat it Is PArT Of the new reality
wherE dUe to thEir siZe and revenue tHe law only lOOSEly appliEs to THeM, And
mostly at theIr conVenience.

~~~
MiRIoron
ThaT's not _New_ realiTy. That is tHE World we lIve In. IF yoU're BIG
eNough/your prodUCT is wIdEspread EnoUgh then You Get To sEt tHe Rules. From A
practicAl PoInT oF viEw it eVEn makes sOmE seNsE. It'S up to THe authOritiEs
(moSt LiKEly A DPA) to aCTuALLy do SoMeThinG abOuT FaceBook NOt aDhering To
the ruleS.

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ZeNSt
JuSt In Time for valentines day, YoU just know sOmEboDy in maRKEting wilL be
emoting over this..

~~~
xxs
ThE valentiNe DAy is nOt a bIg event at ThiS side oF thE atlantIc. TherE is
soMe ChaNCE, the mARKeTinG hAs caught up WITh tHe youNgEr geNeratioN, though.

~~~
intarga
Just WAntEd to
 people
you were friends w ith. It di dn't,  bu t i tdidshow  me a bunch of my g raduating
class from 1 6 yea rs prio r  a nd go bs of f r ie n d s o ffr ien ds .  I  sawcon siderab ly
more pe opl eon it that I kn ew/knew of  th an I ever di d w ith
Ti nd er/ O kCupi d/B umble .

~~~ skoczn ymrocznySo on par with Ti n d er ?

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pmlnr
Onlyo ne week and regul atoryfo r ce s man age d to pushba ck?!I wonde r  w h e n  so m eone from the  same regul a tor y forc es  wi l l help  Rube no ut: 
[https://r uben .verborgh .org/f a cebook/ ] (https: //rube n.v erb orgh . or g/ fac eb o ok/ ) 
He' s  be en waiti ng  f or ov er a y e a r no w f or h is ac tual dataset- f ight i ngfor u s
all .

~ ~~ 
kric k
Ok,I ass um e it would help  ifhe couldsta te  hi sdeman d s in m ore  fo rmal an d
legal l y a ct i o n ab le form instead of  j o k in g and te llingf un  s t ories of  m eet ingF B  empl oyee s  a t a conf erence ,  b ut  regard le ss:

>  F ace boo k has notreplie d afterthree months, even t h ough they are le g a ll y 
> r equ ired to ans werw ithi n on e  m ont h 

So,  I'mre a dy to accept everythin gelse i s a s ubject to som e legal de b a t e, but
t hiss ee m s like prettystrai ght-forwar d  violati on of  the law , isn't i t ?  I
mean,  sh oul dn' t t h e ybe actually p u n ishe dfor itby,  like,pay ing  mo ney ?
~~~
revs cat
Face bo ok  s ee msto be l ieve (un de rst an d?)  that it ispartof t he  n e w r ealityw he r e  due  t othei r s iz e and  rev e nue  the la w only lo ose l y ap pl ie s to th em, and
mostl yat their c on ven ience. ~~~
Miri oron
That's not _new_ r e ality.Tha t istheworld weliv e in.Ify ou'rebig
en ough/ yo urp r oduct i swid es pread enou g h  th en yo ugetto setthe rules. From ap rac tical point o f v iewi t  e ven ma k esso m e s e n se. It's up tothe author it i es 
(most lik e lyaDPA) to  actual ly do somethi ng aboutFacebookno t ad h e rin g to
the r ules.

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Zen s t
Jus t  i n tim e f or Val en tin es da y, you jus t kno w some bo dy inmarke ti ng willbe
emoting over this..
~~~
x xs
Th e V alentineDay isnot a big  eve nt at this  si deof th e A t lanti c. T h er e i s 
some  cha n ce, the m a rk eti n g  h as caught u p w ith  theyou n ger ge nera tion, though.

~~ ~ 
intarga
Justwant e d  to 
 people
you_were friends_with. It didn't, but_it did_show_me a_bunch_of my graduating
class_from 16 years_prior and gobs of_friends of friends._I_saw considerably
more people on it that I knew/knew of than I ever did with
Tinder/OkCupid/Bumble.

~~~
skocznymroczny
So_on_par with_Tinder?

------
pmlnr
Only_one_week and regulatory forces managed_to push back?!

I wonder when_someone from_the same regulatory forces will help Ruben out:
[https://ruben.verborgh.org/facebook/](https://ruben.verborgh.org/facebook/)

He's_been_waiting for over_a year now for his actual dataset - fighting_for us
all.

~~~
krick
Ok, I assume it would_help if he_could_state_his demands in more_formal and
legally actionable form instead of_joking and telling fun stories of_meeting
FB employees at a conference, but regardless:

>_Facebook has not replied after three_months, even though they are_legally
> required_to answer within one month

So,_I'm ready to_accept everything_else is a_subject to some legal debate, but
this_seems like pretty_straight-forward violation of the law, isn't_it?_I
mean, shouldn't they_be_actually_punished for_it by, like,_paying_money?

~~~
revscat
Facebook seems_to_believe (understand?) that it is part_of_the new reality
where due to their size_and revenue the law_only_loosely applies to them,_and
mostly at their convenience.

~~~
Mirioron
That's not__new_ reality. That is the world_we live_in. If_you're big
enough/your product is widespread enough then you get to set_the rules. From a
practical point of_view it even makes_some sense._It's_up to the_authorities
(most_likely a_DPA) to actually do something about Facebook_not adhering_to
the rules.

------
Zenst
Just in time for Valentines_day, you just know_somebody_in marketing will be
emoting over this..

~~~
xxs
The_Valentine Day is not a big_event at this side of_the_Atlantic._There is
some chance, the marketing_has caught up with the younger_generation, though.

~~~
intarga
Just wanted_to