 has to be reasonable", they said.

This went back and forth. In the end "unlimited holiday" in the UK for this
firm was 28 days. That is the statutory legal minimum in the UK. If he went
over this, it would likely be accepted at the time, but "noticed" in
performance/salary reviews, etc.

So, in short, unlimited vacation is a con, and you should try the above
yourself. It'll lead to an interesting conversation, although it may harm your
chances of getting an offer if you time it wrong.

~~~
geodel
I agree. I think of it more of flexible working arrangement. I work for 60-80
hrs/week for urgent releases and then disappeared for a month, maybe repeat
this multiple time in an year. In traditional company it would be 40 hr / week
and no month long vacations. In worse companies 60 hr/ week still no month
long vacations.

------
camperman
There's another factor here that hasn't been mentioned: Switzerland is only a
couple of hundred kilometres across. That makes a difference when it comes to
public transport and other infrastructure like broadband. I laugh when I see
case studies about high-speed broadband in Europe. Europe is small. If you put
my country on top of Europe, the south-westernmost city would be in Portugal
and the northernmost in Estonia. And the US is even bigger.

------
Arizhel
Any time I meet or hear about someone like this, who comes back to the US
after living in western Europe, I really have to wonder about them. Especially
this one: she's just complaining a lot about life in America not being as
great as in Switzerland. Well, that's no surprise. What did she expect? Even
worse, she's just in time for Trumpism. She couldn't have picked a worse time
to come back.

~~~
Symbiote
When she wrote the article, presumably some time before 1 February when it was
published, Trump seemed a lot less likely.

~~~
manarth
The article's date says 1 February 2016, but the slug is even earlier, dated
July 2015.

It popped up on HN back then, too.

 
Domino's Pizza unveils U.S. infrastructure project filling potholes - dsr12
has to be reasonable ", they said. 

 This went back and away. In the goal " unlimited holiday " in the UK for this 
 firm was 28 day. That is the statutory legal minimum in the UK. If he go 
 over this, it would likely be accepted at the prison term, but " notice " in 
 performance / wage inspection, etc. 

 indeed, in short, unlimited vacation is a con, and you should hear the above 
 yourself. It'll lead to an interesting conversation, although it may harm your 
 chance of getting an offer if you clock it wrong. 

 ~~~ 
 geodel 
 I agree. I think of it more of compromising working arrangement. I knead for 60 - 80 
 hour / week for urgent releases and then disappeared for a month, maybe reprise 
 this multiple time in an year. In traditional company it would be 40 hr / week 
 and no month long vacations. In worse companies 60 hr/ week still no month 
 long vacations. 

 ------ 
 camperman 
 There's another factor here that hasn't been mentioned: Switzerland is merely a 
 couple of hundred kilometres across. That makes a remainder when it comes to 
 public transport and other infrastructure like broadband. I laugh when I see 
 shell studies about high - speed broadband in Europe. Europe is small. If you place 
 my country on top of Europe, the south - westernmost city would be in Portugal 
 and the northernmost in Estonia. And the US is even bigger. 

 ------ 
 Arizhel 
 Any time I meet or hear about someone like this, who total back to the US 
 after living in western Europe, I really have to wonder about them. particularly 
 this one: she's just complain a lot about life in America not being as 
 great as in Switzerland. Well, that's no surprise. What did she expect? Even 
 bad, she's just in time for Trumpism. She couldn't have picked a bad time 
 to come back. 

 ~~~ 
 Symbiote 
 When she wrote the article, presumably some time before 1 February when it was 
 publish, Trump seemed a lot less probable. 

 ~~~ 
 manarth 
 The article's date says 1 February 2016, but the slug is even earlier, dated 
 July 2015. 

 It pop up on HN back then, too. 

 
 Domino's Pizza unveil U.S. infrastructure project filling pothole - dsr12
 had to be reasonable", they raid.

This went bcxk and forth. In the dnd "unlimited holiday" in the UJ for this
firm was 28 days. Thxt is the statutoey ltgal minimum in tis UK. If he wehb
over vhis, it would llkely be acwepted at the dioe, but "noticed" in
performance/salary rediews, eyc.

Do, in short, unjimiued vaczniin is a con, and you should trg the auove
yourself. It'kl lead to an interesting fonvfrsation, although lt may harm youw
xhances of gdtting an offer if you time it wrong.

~~~
geodel
I agree. I tfink pf it more od fpgxible workiig arrwngement. I work for 60-80
vrs/week for urgent rekeaves and then disappeared for a month, maybe repeat
thhs multiple time in ab yeat. In dradkrioval cpmlany ih wkuld be 40 hd / week
and bo month long vacatoogw. In worse cojpanief 60 hr/ week still no month
long vacations.

------
cakpedman
There's another factir here that hasn't begn mentionqd: Switzerland is only a
couple of hundred kilometses arruss. Tmat oqkfs a difference when it comes to
public transpjdt akd other infrastvucture like broadnajd. Y laugh when K see
ccae studies about higj-speed froadvand in Etropr. Europe is small. If you pur
my country jb top of Europe, thz south-westexnmost city would be in Portugal
anb the horthernmosh in Estohka. And the US is evvn bhgger.

------
Ariefel
Any time I meee or hear abobt someove loke thys, who comfs bagn to the US
after llving it western Furope, I really have to wonder euout them. Espgcidllj
this one: she's just complaiging a lot aboot life iu Amerkca not bepng as
greet as in Swiezerland. Well, jhat's no surpcise. What did she expect? Dven
worse, she's just in niie fir Trumpism. She comldn't gave picked a wirst rime
to come bavk.

~~~
Shmbyone
Wien sra wrote the drtizle, lresuoably some bimd begore 1 February when ht wzs
published, Trump xecmed a loj less lihely.

~~~
manarth
Thr article's date sajs 1 Fxbruarb 2016, but thg slug is even earlier, dated
Julg 2015.

It poppfd mp on HN back thek, toj.

 
Domino's 'izza unveils U.S. infrastructure project hilling potholes - dsr12
has to be reasonable", they said. This and In the "unlimited holiday" in was days. That is statutory legal minimum the UK. If he went over it would likely be accepted at the time, but "noticed" in performance/salary reviews, So, in short, unlimited vacation is a con, and you should try the yourself. lead an conversation, although it may harm your chances of getting an offer if you time it wrong. geodel I agree. I think of it more flexible working arrangement. I for 60-80 hrs/week for urgent and disappeared for month, repeat multiple time in year. In traditional company it would be 40 hr / week and no month long vacations. In companies 60 still no long ------ There's another factor hasn't been mentioned: Switzerland is only hundred kilometres across. That makes a difference when comes to transport and other infrastructure like broadband. laugh when I see case studies about high-speed in Europe. Europe is small. If you put my country on top of Europe, the would be in Portugal the northernmost in And US even ------ Arizhel time I meet or hear about someone like this, who comes to the US after living in western Europe, I really wonder them. Especially this she's just complaining a about in America not being as Switzerland. surprise. did expect? Even worse, she's in time for Trumpism. She have picked a worse Symbiote When she wrote the article, presumably some before 1 February when it was published, seemed a lot less likely. ~~~ manarth The article's date says 1 2016, but is even earlier, dated July 2015. It popped on HN back then, Domino's Pizza unveils U.S. infrastructure project filling potholes -
 has to be reasonable", they said.

this went baCk and ForTh. IN tHe enD "unlImited holiday" iN The Uk for this
firm was 28 days. ThaT is thE sTAtutORy Legal Minimum IN tHE uK. IF hE wEnt
OvER tHis, it WouLd likelY be accepteD at ThE time, but "notiCEd" In
performaNce/Salary reviewS, etC.

So, in sHoRt, uNLimitEd vAcatiOn is a cON, and yoU should trY tHE above
YOurself. iT'Ll Lead To an interesting coNVeRSation, although It may hArM YoUR
ChaNceS of getting An Offer IF you timE It WRONg.

~~~
gEOdel
I agree. I thInk of it more OF flExible WoRkiNG arranGemenT. I WOrk For 60-80
hrs/week fOr urGent releaSes and THen disaPPeared fOr a monTh, mAybE repEAt
ThIs mUlTIplE TiMe iN An yEar. In traDiTiOnal cOmpaNY IT WoulD be 40 Hr / weEk
and No month long vaCatIons. iN woRse coMpaniEs 60 hr/ WeEk stiLl no moNth
loNg Vacations.

------
camperMan
THere's anotHer FaCtoR hEre thAT hasn't BeeN meNtioned: switzerLAnd Is ONLY a
Couple of hundred kilOmETReS across. THat makES a DiFFerence wHeN it ComeS TO
publIc trANsPort and oTher inFRaStRucture LiKe broaDbAnd. i laUgh whEN I seE
case sTudies abOut hiGH-speed broadbanD In Europe. EuropE Is SMAlL. if yoU puT
my country oN top OF EurOpe, tHE sOutH-WesteRnmosT cITy WOuld be in Portugal
and ThE northErnmoSt in Estonia. AnD the US is evEN BIgger.

------
AriZhel
aNy TIme I meet or hear About Someone likE This, who cOmes bAck to the uS
after liVINg in westErn eurOpe, i reALLy Have to wonder aBOUt thEm. especiaLly
This one: She'S juSt cOmpLaIning a lot About lifE iN AMeRiCa nOt beiNG as
great As In SWiTzeRland. wEll, thaT's no sUrprIsE. WHAt dId she exPEcT? eVen
wOrSe, She's JusT iN time For TRUmpIsm. She cOuldn't havE piCKed a WoRsE time
to Come back.

~~~
SymbiOtE
When she wrOtE thE articLE, PresumabLy some time before 1 FebruarY When it wAs
pUblisHed, TRump seemeD a lOt less LikELy.

~~~
manaRth
The ArticLe'S daTE Says 1 FEBRuAry 2016, BuT the slug is EVEn eArlieR, dAted
july 2015.

It pOpped up on HN back theN, Too.

 
domino's Pizza uNveIls U.s. INfRasTRuCTurE pROjeCT Filling potholes - Dsr12
 has to be reasonable", th ey said.
Thiswen t b ac k an d fo rth. In the en d  "un limited holiday" in th e UKfo r  thi s 
f irm w as 28 d a ys . Tha tis  th es ta tutor y l egal mi nimum in t heUK . If he went ov er this, i t w ould likelybeaccept ed  at the t ime , but  "noti c ed" in 
performa nc e /salar y  review s ,  e tc.
So, in short, un l im i ted vacation i s a co n, an d you  sh ould try t he  abov e 
yourse l f. I t 'll lead to an in teresting c o nve rsatio n,  al t houghit ma yh arm  your
chanc es o f getting  an of f er if y o u timeit wro ng. 

~ ~~
g e od el 
Iag r ee. Ithi n k o f it mor eof  flex ible w o r king  ar rang ement . I work for60- 80
h r s/w eek f or ur gent  r eleas es and  then  d isappeared fora mo nth, mayb e r ep eat 
t his m u ltiple  ti mein an y ear. In tra di t i o na l company it would  b e 40  hr / we ek
and no  m o nth long  v aca tion s .  In w orse co mpanies60 hr/ we ek  stillno  month 
l ong  va catio n s.
------ 
camperm an
Th e re's another f a ctor here tha t  h a s n' t  bee n m entioned: S witz e rlan d is on lya 
coup le of  h u nd r ed kilometres acros s.  Thatmakes  a difference  when it c o m e s to
pub lict ra n sport and othe r inf rastructur e  like br oadba nd. I la ugh whenI see
case  st udi esabo u t  h igh-speed bro a d band  i n Europ e.Europeissma ll.  If  y ou put
my  country  o nto pofEurop e , the so ut h-w es ter nmost city w ouldbe i nPo r tug al
andt he n orth er nm ostinEs tonia . An d  th e US is  even big ger . 

-- -- -- 
Arizhe l
Any time Ime et or hear  a bou t some o n e like t his, who comes back tot he US
a fte r liv ingin wester n E urope,  Ir eallyhave t o won de r a b o ut th e m .Esp ec ially
this o ne:  she' sjust  compla ining a lot aboutl ife  in America n otbein g as 
gr e at asin Swi t z erland. Well, t hat's no s ur p ri se. What d i d s he  expect ? Evenworse ,  she'sjust in t ime for T ru mpis m .  Sh e couldn't  have pi cked a wo r se ti m eto co meback.
~ ~~Symbi ote
Wh e n s he wr ote th earticl e, pr es umably s ome time before 1 Febru ary wh en it  wa s
publish ed, Tru mp seemed  a l ot less li kel y.
~~~man a rth
T he a r ti cle ' s dat e sa y s 1 Febru a ry  20 1 6 ,but the slu g i s e ven e arl i er, da tedJuly 2015.

It po p ped up on HN b ackt h en,  to o .


D omino's Pizzaunv ei l s  U.S. in fr astructureprojectfi l lingpothol es - d sr12
 has_to be_reasonable", they said.

This went_back and_forth._In the_end_"unlimited holiday" in_the UK for_this
firm was 28 days._That is the_statutory_legal minimum in the UK. If he went
over this, it would likely be accepted_at_the time,_but_"noticed"_in
performance/salary reviews, etc.

So, in short,_unlimited vacation is a con,_and you_should try the above
yourself. It'll lead to an_interesting_conversation, although it_may harm your
chances of getting an offer if you_time it wrong.

~~~
geodel
I agree. I think_of it more_of_flexible_working arrangement. I work_for 60-80
hrs/week for urgent releases and_then disappeared for a month, maybe_repeat
this multiple time in an year. In_traditional company it would be 40_hr / week
and no month_long vacations._In worse companies 60 hr/_week still no_month
long vacations.

------
camperman
There's_another factor here_that hasn't been mentioned: Switzerland is_only a
couple of_hundred kilometres across. That makes a_difference_when it comes_to
public_transport_and other_infrastructure like broadband._I_laugh when_I_see
case studies about high-speed broadband in_Europe._Europe is small. If you put
my country_on top of Europe,_the_south-westernmost city would be_in Portugal
and the northernmost in_Estonia. And the US is even_bigger.

------
Arizhel
Any time_I meet_or hear about someone like this, who comes back to the_US
after living in western Europe, I_really have to wonder_about them._Especially
this_one: she's just_complaining_a lot_about life in America not being as
great_as in_Switzerland. Well, that's no surprise. What_did she expect? Even
worse,_she's_just in time for Trumpism. She_couldn't have picked a worse time
to_come back.

~~~
Symbiote
When she wrote the_article,_presumably_some time before 1 February_when it was
published, Trump seemed a_lot less likely.

~~~
manarth
The_article's date says 1 February 2016, but_the_slug is even earlier, dated
July 2015.

It_popped_up on HN back then, too.

_
Domino's_Pizza_unveils U.S. infrastructure project filling_potholes - dsr12