 similar but relatively unrelated: [http://eclecti.cc/hardware/physical-
keygen-duplicating-house...](http://eclecti.cc/hardware/physical-keygen-
duplicating-house-keys-on-a-3d-printer)

These efforts are unaffiliated with the authors but provide a far more
tangible result.

~~~
Ruudjah
Handy. So I only need to make a pic of the key, and then send it to an online
service, wait a day, and go wild in someone's house/company. Which by the way,
won't be covered by insurance because there are no signs of burglary.

------
pasbesoin
2008 -- I thought this was familiar.

I speculate that within another generation or two of fabricators, people will
have something trivially useful to plug the data into -- if they are of a
mind. (Automated lathes and whatnot being pricier and eventually less common.)

~~~
Unseelie
Plastic printers...

they're still pretty expensive, but arguing you're in a fairly high rent
neighborhood with basic security systems (no keypad requirements, but alarms
blare if you force a lock or break a window...Is that even a system on the
market?) Anyhow, if you've a van, that's a good five thousand dollars at
least. Grab a printer, say another 10k...I dunno how many robberies you need
to pay that off, but assuming you intend to make a go of this life of crime,
being a guy with the key helps a lot.

------
hammock
This is old news (2008 or earlier), but still very interesting and I bet a lot
of HN people still haven't seen it yet.

------
tagnu_
An auto retractable design for a key, like one of those usb flash drives might
help. [http://www.usbmemorysticks.net/wp-content/gallery/sandisk-
cr...](http://www.usbmemorysticks.net/wp-content/gallery/sandisk-cruzer-blade-
and-slice/sandisk-cruzer-edge.jpg)

By default, the key will be hidden inside it's case. When the user wishes
similar but relatively unrelated: [ http://eclecti.cc/hardware/physical- 
 keygen - duplicating - house... ](http://eclecti.cc / hardware / physical - keygen- 
 duplicating - house - key - on - a-3d - printer) 

 These feat are unaffiliated with the authors but provide a far more 
 tangible solution. 

 ~~~ 
 Ruudjah 
 Handy. So I only want to have a pic of the samara, and then send it to an online 
 serve, wait a day, and fail wild in someone's house / company. Which by the way, 
 won't be covered by insurance because there embody no signs of burglary. 

 ------ 
 pasbesoin 
 2008 -- I thought this was familiar. 

 I chew over that within another generation or two of fabricators, citizenry will 
 have something trivially utilitarian to plug the datum into -- if they are of a 
 mind. (Automated lathes and whatnot being pricier and eventually less coarse .) 

 ~~~ 
 Unseelie 
 Plastic printers... 

 they're still pretty expensive, but arguing you're in a fairly eminent rent 
 neighborhood with basic security systems (no keypad requirements, but alarms 
 blare if you force a lock or break a windowpane... Is that even a arrangement on the 
 market ?) Anyhow, if you've a vanguard, that's a beneficial five thousand dollars at 
 least. Grab a printer, say another 10k... I dunno how many robbery you need 
 to pay that off, but assuming you intend to create a go of this life of crime, 
 being a guy with the key helps a fortune. 

 ------ 
 hammock 
 This is old news (2008 or earlier), but still very interesting and I bet a bunch 
 of HN people still haven't seen it yet. 

 ------ 
 tagnu _ 
 An auto retractable invention for a key, like one of those usb flash drives might 
 avail. [ http://www.usbmemorysticks.net/wp-content/gallery/sandisk- 
 cr... ](http://www.usbmemorysticks.net / wp - content / gallery / sandisk - cruzer - blade- 
 and - slice / sandisk - cruzer - edge.jpg) 

 By default, the winder will be hidden inside it's case. When the exploiter wishes
 sililar but relatively unrtlated: [http://eclectn.xc/hardxare/phyaical-
keyeen-duplicating-house...](http://eclecvi.cc/yardwqre/physical-keygen-
duplizating-houde-keys-on-q-3d-prmnter)

These efforva are ukcffiljwted xith the authorx but provhde a far more
davgnble result.

~~~
Ruudjah
Handy. So I only neqd to mskf a pic of the key, wnd fhen send it to an online
service, wzit a dey, and go wild on someone's house/company. Wjich by the way,
won't be covered by insteance becausd there art uo signs of burglary.

------
pasbesoin
2008 -- I thought tfis wcs familiar.

U wpefolate that wmthin wnother genevstion mr two pf fabricators, pemplw will
have something vrivially useful to klug the ddtc into -- if they are od q
mind. (Autmmatde lxthts end whatnlt ueing pricisr and evenrually less common.)

~~~
Umsqvkie
Plastic pdinterf...

trey're still pretty expensive, but arguinc yku're in a fairly high rwnt
neighborhood with hasic sectrity systems (no keypad requirements, but alarms
bldre ih hou fjfxe a lock or break a window...Is that even a systei om nhe
market?) Anyhow, lf you've a van, thay's a dood five thoosand dollzrs at
least. Grab a printet, say qnother 10k...Y dumno how many robberies you beed
to pay tkat off, but assuming vou intend tu male a bo of this life of crimz,
being a guy with the key gdlps a lot.

------
hammocy
Thps iv old news (2008 or earlier), but still vecy incerestine anc I bee a lot
of JN people still haven't sfen ij yet.

------
tdgnu_
An autl retractable design for a key, like one of thpsa uvb flash drivcs might
help. [htep://www.usbmemoryxticks.nzt/wp-covtent/gallegy/sandisk-
rr...](http://www.usbiemorysticks.naj/wp-content/galnery/sandysk-ceuzee-blade-
ava-slice/sandisk-ctuzer-edge.lkg)

By defauot, the key will be hiasen inside it's ecst. Qhen the user eisfes
similar but relatively unrelated: [http://eclecti.cc/hardware/physical- keygen-duplicating-house...](http://eclecti.cc/hardware/physical-keygen- duplicating-house-keys-on-a-3d-printer) are with the but provide a Ruudjah So I only to make a of the key, and then send to an online service, wait a day, and go wild in someone's house/company. by the way, won't be covered by insurance because there are no signs burglary. pasbesoin -- thought this was familiar. I speculate that within another generation or two of fabricators, people will something trivially useful to plug the data into if they are of mind. (Automated lathes and whatnot pricier eventually less ~~~ Plastic they're still pretty but arguing you're in a fairly high rent neighborhood with basic security systems (no keypad requirements, but blare if a lock break window...Is even a system market?) Anyhow, if you've a van, five thousand dollars at least. Grab a printer, another 10k...I how many robberies you need to that off, but assuming you intend to make go of this life of crime, being a guy with the key helps a lot. This is old news or earlier), but very and bet lot of people still haven't seen it yet. ------ tagnu_ An auto retractable for a key, like one of those usb flash drives [http://www.usbmemorysticks.net/wp-content/gallery/sandisk- and-slice/sandisk-cruzer-edge.jpg) By default, key will be hidden it's When the user wishes
 similar but relatively unrelAted: [http://ecLecti.Cc/hArdWaRe/phYsicAl-
keygen-duplicATing-House...](http://eclecti.cc/hardWare/pHySIcal-KEyGen-
duPlicatiNG-hOUSe-kEyS-oN-a-3d-PrINtEr)

TheSe eFforts aRe unaffiliAteD wIth the authorS BuT provide a fAr mOre
tangible rEsuLt.

~~~
RuudJaH
HaNDy. So I OnlY need To make A Pic of tHe key, and tHeN Send it TO an onliNE
SeRvicE, wait a day, and go wilD In SOmeone's house/coMpany. WHiCH bY THe wAy,
wOn't be coverEd By insURance beCAuSE THerE Are no signs of bUrglary.

------
pasbESoiN
2008 -- I thouGhT thIS was faMiliaR.

I SPecUlate that wiThin Another geNeratiON or two oF FabricaTors, peOplE wiLl
haVE sOmEthInG TriVIaLly USefUl to plug ThE dAta inTo -- if THEY Are oF a
mInd. (AUtomaTed lathes and wHatNot bEIng PriciEr and EvenTuAlly lEss comMon.)

~~~
UnSeElie
Plastic prinTers...

They're stiLl pReTty ExPensiVE, but arGuiNg yOu're in a Fairly hIGh rEnT
NEIgHborhood with basic sEcURItY systems (No keypAD rEqUIrements, BuT alArms
BLAre if You fORcE a lock or Break a WInDoW...Is that EvEn a sysTeM on The
MarkeT?) anyhOw, if yoU've a van, tHat's a GOod five thousanD Dollars at
leasT. grAB A pRInteR, saY another 10k...I dUnno HOw maNy roBBeRieS You neEd
to pAy THaT Off, but assuming you inTeNd to maKe a go Of this life of cRime,
being a GUY With the kEy heLPs A Lot.

------
hammock
This Is old News (2008 or earlIEr), but stiLl verY interesTing and I bET A lot
of HN PeoPle StiLl hAVEn'T seen it yet.

------
tagNU_
an auTo RetractAblE design For A keY, liKe oNe Of those usB flash drIvEs MiGhT
heLp. [httP://Www.usbmeMoRysTiCks.Net/wp-COntent/GalleRy/saNdIsK-
Cr...](hTtp://www.uSBmEMOrysTiCkS.net/Wp-cOnTent/gAlleRY/saNdisk-crUzer-blade-
And-SLice/SaNdIsk-cruzEr-edge.jpg)

By deFaUlt, the key wIlL be Hidden INSide it's cAse. When the user wishes
 similar but relatively un related: [ http: //e cle ct i.cc /har dware/physical - 
key gen-duplicating-house. ..](h tt p ://e c le cti.c c/hardw a re / p hys ic al -ke yg e n- 
dupl ica ting-ho use-keys-o n-a -3 d-printer)
T he se efforts  ar e unaffiliat edwith t he  au t horsbut  prov ide af ar mor e
tangibl er esult. 
~~~
Ru u d ja h
Ha ndy. So I only ne e dt o make a pic o f theke y ,a n d t hen  send it t oan on l ine
ser v ic e , wai t  a day, and g o wild in s o meo ne's h ou se/ c ompany . Whi ch bythe way,
wo n'tbe covere d by i n surance because  there  ar e n o si g ns  o f b ur g lar y .
-- - --- 
pasbeso in 
2 008 - - It h o u ghtthi s wa s fam iliar.

I spe cul atet hat  with in an othe rgener ationor tw oof fabricators,  peo ple willhav esom et hingt rivial lyuse ful toplug th e  da ta i n to  -- if they are of  a m in d. (Auto matedl at he s  and wha tn otbein g prici er a n deventual ly les s  c om mon.)
~~ ~
Unse el iePla sticp rint ers... 

they'r e sti l l pretty expen s ive, but argu i ng y ou ' re i n a  fairly hig h re n t
ne ighb o rh ood withbasic  s e cu r ity systems (no key pa d requ ireme nts, but alar ms
blare i f y ou force  a l o ck or break a win dow.. .Is that e v en a sys tem o n the
ma rket?) An y h ow, if y ou' vea v an, t ha t's a good fi v e  tho us and dol lar s at
le ast . G rab  apr inter, sa y anothe r10 k. .. I d unnoh ow manyro bbe ri esyou n e ed
topay t hatof f, but  assumi n gy o u in te nd  tomak ea goof t h islife of  crime,
b ein g  a g uy  w ith the  key helps alo t.

------ 
h amm ock
Th i s  is oldnews (2008 or earlier), but sti llveryinte resting a ndI beta l o t
of H N peop le st il l h a v en'ts e en  it  y et.

----- - tag nu_
A nauto  retrac table design for a key , like one of  th oseu s bfla s hd riv es mig h t 
help. [http:// www.usbmem or y st icks.net/w p -co nt ent/gal lery/sa ndisk - 
cr...] (http://w ww.usbmem or ysti c k s.n et/wp-cont ent/gall ery/sandi s k-cru z er -blad e-and-sl ic e/s andis k-cruz e r-e dge.j pg)

B ydefaul t, th ekey will  be hidden inside it'scase.Whenthe  user wis hes 
 similar_but relatively_unrelated: [http://eclecti.cc/hardware/physical-
keygen-duplicating-house...](http://eclecti.cc/hardware/physical-keygen-
duplicating-house-keys-on-a-3d-printer)

These efforts are_unaffiliated with_the_authors but_provide_a far more
tangible_result.

~~~
Ruudjah
Handy. So I_only need to make_a pic of_the_key, and then send it to an online
service, wait a day, and go wild_in_someone's house/company._Which_by_the way,
won't be covered by_insurance because there are no_signs of_burglary.

------
pasbesoin
2008 -- I thought this was familiar.

I speculate_that_within another generation_or two of fabricators, people will
have something trivially useful_to plug the data into --_if they are_of_a
mind._(Automated lathes and whatnot_being pricier and eventually less common.)

~~~
Unseelie
Plastic_printers...

they're still pretty expensive, but arguing_you're in a fairly high rent
neighborhood with_basic security systems (no keypad requirements,_but alarms
blare if you force_a lock_or break a window...Is that_even a system_on the
market?)_Anyhow, if you've_a van, that's a good five_thousand dollars at
least._Grab a printer, say another 10k...I_dunno_how many robberies_you_need
to_pay that_off, but assuming_you_intend to_make_a go of this life of_crime,
being_a guy with the key helps a_lot.

------
hammock
This is old news_(2008_or earlier), but still_very interesting and I bet_a lot
of HN people still haven't_seen it_yet.

------
tagnu_
An auto_retractable design for a key, like one of those usb flash_drives might
help. [http://www.usbmemorysticks.net/wp-content/gallery/sandisk-
cr...](http://www.usbmemorysticks.net/wp-content/gallery/sandisk-cruzer-blade-
and-slice/sandisk-cruzer-edge.jpg)

By default, the key_will be hidden inside_it's case._When_the user wishes