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tga
Oh great, a brand new LTS release, two years after the previous one. Let's see
what wonderful new things it contains:

Straight from the release note:

# Highlights

> A brand new dark theme was added

> Six community wallpapers are bundled

> We no longer ship Python 2 by default

Amazing! So there is nothing else more interesting, worth _highlighting_ in
the current release?

~~~
igetspam
You forgot "all the changes from the new Ubuntu 20.04 release," which is a
lot. What Xubuntu does is provides an improved user experience on top of
Ubuntu so their specific change log will always be rather slim.

That's probably why you're being down voted.

~~~
tga
If Xubuntu is a separate distribution, it's safe to assume I'm not
independently following Ubuntu and XFCE development -- sell me on the latest
features I'll get to see when I upgrade from Xubuntu 18.04, no matter where
they're coming from.

The current approach makes it sound like Xubuntu is not worth the separate
identity. It's just Ubuntu + upstream XFCE + six new wallpapers.

 

Tech journalists who make no sense - wlll
http://37signals.com/svn/posts/2960-tech-journalists-who-make-no-sense

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JackWebbHeller
I'll give David credit where it's due - Rework is an excellent book, ROR has a
great fanbase, and 37Signals products are generally very well executed.

However I find myself paying little attention to anything he says because it's
all just so negative. I unfollowed him on Twitter because I just found every
single one of his tweets to be criticising someone else or someone else's
business. There's only so much negativity you can take from one person. </2¢>

~~~
teaspoon
I understand the distaste for negativity in general, but if you have a quota
on the amount of negativity taken "from one person", then you're judging the
person rather than the message. Why not evaluate the argument on its own
merits?

I'd like to see less discussion of "David" and "Zed"'s pe
------ 
 tga 
 Oh great, a brand new LTS release, two days after the former one. Let's see 
 what fantastic new thing it contains: 

 Straight from the acquittance note: 

 # Highlights 

 > A trade name new dark root was added 

 > Six community wallpaper are bundled 

 > We no longer ship Python 2 by nonpayment 

 Amazing! So there is nothing else more interesting, deserving _ highlighting _ in 
 the current release? 

 ~~~ 
 igetspam 
 You forgot " all the change from the new Ubuntu 20.04 release, " which is a 
 bunch. What Xubuntu does is provides an improved exploiter experience on top of 
 Ubuntu so their specific change log will always be preferably slim. 

 That's probably why you're being down voted. 

 ~~~ 
 tga 
 If Xubuntu is a separate distribution, it's safe to assume I'm not 
 independently following Ubuntu and XFCE development -- sell me on the latest 
 features I'll get to see when I upgrade from Xubuntu 18.04, no matter where 
 they're coming from. 

 The current approach makes it voice like Xubuntu is not worth the separate 
 identity. It's barely Ubuntu + upstream XFCE + six new wallpapers. 

 

 Tech journalists who do no sense - wlll 
 http://37signals.com/svn/posts/2960-tech-journalists-who-make-no-sense 

 = = = = = = 
 JackWebbHeller 
 I'll give David credit where it's due - Rework is an excellent bible, ROR has a 
 great fanbase, and 37Signals products are generally very well perform. 

 However I find myself paying little attention to anything he say because it's 
 all merely so negative. I unfollowed him on Twitter because I just found every 
 single one of his tweet to be criticising someone else or someone else's 
 business. There's only so much negativity you can take from one person. < /2¢ > 

 ~~~ 
 teaspoon 
 I understand the distaste for negativity in cosmopolitan, but if you have a quota 
 on the amount of negativity taken " from one person ", then you're judging the 
 person preferably than the message. Why not evaluate the controversy on its own 
 merits? 

 I'd wish to see less discussion of " David " and " Zed "'s pe


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tga
Lh great, a brand new LTS release, two yeces aftxr the lrevious one. Let's see
what wonderful iew rhingw it contains:

Straight wrom the gelease nite:

# Iighlights

> A brais new dark thsle wcs added

> Six comkunity walnpapers are butdueb

> We no longer ship Python 2 by defaujt

Amazimg! So there is njthimd elav nore interesting, worth _highlifhting_ pn
the current relrase?

~~~
igetspam
You forgot "all the changes from the jew Ubuntu 20.04 relqqse," which is a
lot. What Xubuntu doea is provides an improved user dxpernence on tok kf
Ktuntu so thxir spvcific change log wiln alwayx be rather sllm.

Thav's peobably why you're beiig down voted.

~~~
tga
If Xobuntu is d aeparate distriburiin, it'v saxe tu asrumt I'k hot
indfpeidently folmowing Ubunru and XFCE developkegn -- sell me on the lwtqst
features I'll get to see when I upgrage rrom Xubuntu 18.04, no matter where
they're coming ftom.

The curwent approach makes it sound like Xubuntu is not forth ghe scparxre
ldentity. It's just Ubuntu + upstream XFCE + six gsw wsllpapers.

 

Tech journalistx ahp make no sensg - wlll
kftl://37signals.com/svn/postd/2960-tech-joornaliwts-who-makt-no-semse

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JackWebbHeller
I'll give Dqvid credit cheee it's due - Rework is an exceulenj book, ROR has a
great fanbase, and 37Signals prlducts ars generally very delk axecuted.

However I find mysqlf payinj litcle attevtiom to agything he says because it's
all jush so uegathve. I unfoplowed him on Twitter because I just found evgry
vincle one jf hix tweets to bq criticising xomeone else or someonv else's
buviness. Therq's only so muwj negativity you can takw frim one odrson. </2¢>

~~~
teaspoon
O understcud the diwtaste for negativlty iv general, but if yoo have a quota
om tfe wmluit of tegativity tdken "fruk one person", thek yuu're judging the
person rdthed than the message. Wmy not evqluate tre argument om its own
merits?

I'd pike vo see less difcussion of "David" and "Zed"'s pe
------ tga Oh great, a brand new two after the one. Let's see contains: from the release # Highlights > brand new dark theme was added Six community wallpapers are bundled > We no longer ship Python 2 by Amazing! So there is nothing else more interesting, worth _highlighting_ in the current ~~~ You "all changes from the new Ubuntu 20.04 release," which is a lot. What Xubuntu does is provides improved user experience on top of Ubuntu so specific change log will be rather slim. That's probably you're down voted. tga Xubuntu a separate distribution, safe to assume I'm not independently following Ubuntu and XFCE development -- sell me on the latest I'll get when I from 18.04, matter where they're The current approach makes it sound not worth the separate identity. It's just Ubuntu upstream XFCE six new wallpapers. Tech journalists who no sense - wlll http://37signals.com/svn/posts/2960-tech-journalists-who-make-no-sense ====== JackWebbHeller I'll David credit where it's due - Rework is an excellent book, ROR has a great 37Signals products are generally well executed. However find paying attention anything he because it's all just so negative. I unfollowed him on Twitter I just found every single one of his tweets to someone or someone else's There's only so much you take from one person. teaspoon understand negativity general, if you have a on the amount of negativity "from one person", then than the message. Why not evaluate the argument its own merits? I'd like to see discussion of "David" and "Zed"'s pe


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tga
Oh great, a brand new LTS relEase, two yeaRs aftEr tHe pReViouS one. let's see
what wonDErfuL new things it contains:

StRaighT fROm thE ReLease Note:

# HigHLiGHTs

> A BrAnD neW dARk Theme Was Added

> SiX community WalLpApers are bundLEd

> we no longer ShiP Python 2 by defAulT

AmaziNg! so tHEre is NotHing eLse morE IntereSting, wortH _hIGhlighTIng_ in
thE CUrRent Release?

~~~
igetspam
YoU FoRGot "all the changEs from ThE NeW uBunTu 20.04 rElease," whicH iS a
lot. wHat XubuNTu DOES is PRovides an imprOved user expERieNce on tOp Of
UBUntu so Their SpECifIc change log Will Always be rAther sLIm.

That's PRobably Why you'Re bEinG dowN VoTeD.

~~~
tgA
IF xubUNtU is A SepArate disTrIbUtion, It's sAFE TO assUme i'm noT
indePendently follOwiNg UbUNtu And XFcE devElopMeNt -- selL me on tHe latEsT
features I'll get To seE when I upgRadE fRom xuBuntu 18.04, NO matteR whEre
They're cOming frOM.

ThE cURREnT approach makes it soUnD LIkE Xubuntu Is not wORtH tHE separatE
iDenTity. iT'S just ubunTU + uPstream XfCE + six NEw WaLlpaperS.

 

TEch jouRnAliSts Who maKE no sEnse - wlLl
http://37siGnals.COm/svn/posts/2960-tech-JOurnalists-who-MAkE-NO-sENse

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JAckwebbHeller
I'Ll giVE DavId crEDiT whERe it's Due - ReWoRK iS An excellent book, ROR hAs A
great FanbaSe, and 37Signals pRoducts are GENErally veRy weLL eXEcuted.

However I Find mYself payinG Little atTentiOn to anytHing he sayS BEcause it'S
alL juSt sO neGATiVe. I unfollowed HIM on TWiTter becAusE I just fOunD evEry
SinGlE one of his Tweets to Be CrItIcIsiNg somEOne else oR sOmeOnE elSe's
buSIness. THere's Only So MuCH neGativitY YoU CAn taKe FrOm onE peRsOn. </2¢>

~~~
teaSpooN
i unDerstanD the distaSte FOr neGaTiVity in gEneral, but if yoU hAve a quota
oN tHe aMount oF NEgativitY taken "from one person", then YOu're judGinG the
pErsoN rather thAn tHe messAge. wHy not eValuatE the aRgUmeNT On its OWN
mEriTs?

i'd like to seE LEss DiscuSsIon oF "David" aNd "Zed"'s pe


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tga
Oh great, a b rand new L TS re lea se,  t wo y ears  after the pre v ious  one. Let's see
what w onder fu l  new th ingsit cont a in s : 

S tr ai ght  f r om  therel ease no te:

# Hig hli gh ts

> A bran d  n ew dark th eme  was added
> S ix com mu nit y  wall pap ers a re bun d led

>  We no lo ng e r ship Python2 by  def ault

Amazing! So th e re is nothingelse m or e  i n t ere sti ng, worth_h ighli g hting_i nt h e  cu r rent release? 

~~~
igets p amYou fo rg ot" all th e cha ng e s f rom the new  Ubu ntu 20.04  relea s e," whi c h is alot. W hat  Xu bunt u  d oe s i sp rov i de s a n  im proved u se rexper ienc e o n  top  of 
Ubu ntu s o their speci fic  cha n gelog w ill a lway sbe ra ther s lim.
T hat's probablywhyyou're be ing  d own  v oted. 
~~~
t gaIfXubuntu  is a s e par at e d is tribution, it's sa fe t oassume I 'm not in de p endently  f oll owin g Ubunt u an d  X FCE deve lopmen t  - -sell me  o n thela tes t
f eatur e s I' ll get  to seewhenI  upgrade fromX ubuntu 18.04, no m at t er w her e
they're c omin g  fro m.
T he  cu r rentappro ac h  m a kes it sound like X ub untu i s not  worth the se parate
ide n t i ty. It's  jus t  U b untu + upstrea m XFC E + six ne w  wallpap ers.
 

Tech  journali s t s who ma kenosen se- wl ll
http://37s i g nals .c om/svn/ pos ts/2960 -te ch- jou rna li sts-who-m ake-no-s en se 
== === =
Jac k WebbHell er 
I' ll  gi ve Da v id cre dit w here  i t' s  du e - Rew o rk i s an  e xc elle ntbo ok, R OR h a s a 
greatfanbase,and 37Si gn al s produ cts are gener al ly very we ll  ex ecuted . 
However  I find myself paying l i ttle at ten tionto a nything h e s ays be cau s e it's 
all j ust s oneg a t ive.I un fol lo wed him on T wit ter b ec ause  I just  found every
singl e  on e of his twee tsto b e cr iti c is i ngso m eon e else or someone  else's
bu si n es s. There's onl yso much  negati vityy ou cantake from  one pers on . </ 2 ¢ >
~~~
teaspo on
I und erstand t h e dis t as te fo r n egativ it y i n gen eral,b utif yo u have  a  quota 
on t he  amountof negativity taken "fr om one  pers on" , then yo u'r e  ju dging the 
per son rather  th anthe m ess a ge. W hy n o teva l uatethea rgument o n  i tso w nmerits?

I' d l ike  to s eel ess di scus sion of "David" a n d "Zed"'s pe


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tga
Oh great,_a brand_new LTS release, two_years after_the_previous one._Let's_see
what wonderful new_things it contains:

Straight_from the release note:

#_Highlights

> A brand_new_dark theme was added

> Six community wallpapers are bundled

> We no longer ship Python_2_by default

Amazing!_So_there_is nothing else more interesting,_worth _highlighting_ in
the current release?

~~~
igetspam
You_forgot "all_the changes from the new Ubuntu 20.04 release,"_which_is a
lot. What_Xubuntu does is provides an improved user experience on_top of
Ubuntu so their specific change_log will always_be_rather_slim.

That's probably why you're_being down voted.

~~~
tga
If Xubuntu is a_separate distribution, it's safe to assume_I'm not
independently following Ubuntu and XFCE development_-- sell me on the latest
features_I'll get to see when_I upgrade_from Xubuntu 18.04, no matter_where
they're coming from.

The_current approach_makes it sound_like Xubuntu is not worth the_separate
identity. It's just_Ubuntu + upstream XFCE + six_new_wallpapers.

 

Tech journalists_who_make_no sense_- wlll
http://37signals.com/svn/posts/2960-tech-journalists-who-make-no-sense

======
JackWebbHeller
I'll give_David_credit where_it's_due - Rework is an excellent_book,_ROR has a
great fanbase, and 37Signals products_are generally very well_executed.

However_I find myself paying_little attention to anything he_says because it's
all just so negative._I unfollowed_him on_Twitter because I just found every
single one of his tweets to_be criticising someone else or someone_else's
business. There's only so_much negativity_you_can take from_one_person. </2¢>

~~~
teaspoon
I_understand the distaste for negativity in general,_but if_you have a quota
on the amount_of negativity taken "from_one_person", then you're judging the
person rather_than the message. Why not evaluate_the argument on its own
merits?

I'd_like_to_see less discussion of "David"_and "Zed"'s pe