
coldcode
I interviewed three times at a company once which didn't seem to have a clear
business model. Only in the last interview with the CEO did I realize he was
running a ponzi scheme.

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univalent
This is like the Mickey Mouse version of the 'The Firm'.

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pnathan
whenever I am looking at a company, I google it, I scrape Glassdoor, I look
for news articles about it. "How do you make money" is usually on the menu of
"things I specifically care about". I'd advise others do do the same. Learn
well what the company you're talking to does to earn a buck and who they are
beholden to.

I avoid adtech, myself.

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TheAdamist
I've been to a Python Meetup there previously, nice office, nice tech talks.
Their sponsor overview certainly didn't disclose what they actually did.

Makes me wonder about the other ad platforms in town.

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vas123
Sometimes this adware crap hijacks legitimate open source projects as well and
installs on unsuspecting users like this guy:

[https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?t=78825](https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?t=78825)

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zekevermillion
There are many businesses that are built around exploiting vulnerable
customers or users, and it is common for such businesses to have contrived
complicated ethical justifications for their conduct. I'm thinking in
particular of law and finance.

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jobigoud
I also always wonder how the people working on engineering land mines do.

~~~
TheOtherHobbes
I once had a conversation with someone who had worked on surface-to-surface
missile guidance.

He did it because he didn't make the connection between the circuits and the
software in front of him and the deaths they caused.

Then there was a war and he saw the missiles on the news with pictures of
casualties, and suddenly it was "Holy fuck - this stuff actually kills
people!"

Some people think small picture, and he just couldn't get from the work on his
desk to dead bodies without the help of front-line footage.

Of course there are also people
coldcode 
 I interviewed three times at a company once which didn't seem to get a clean 
 business model. Only in the final interview with the CEO did I recognize he was 
 running a ponzi scheme. 

 ------ 
 monovalent 
 This is like the Mickey Mouse interpretation of the' The Firm'. 

 ------ 
 pnathan 
 whenever I am looking at a ship's company, I google it, I scrape Glassdoor, I look 
 for news program articles about it. " How do you make money " is usually on the menu of 
 " things I specifically care about ". I'd rede others do do the same. Learn 
 well what the ship's company you're talking to does to earn a vaulting horse and who they are 
 beholden to. 

 I avoid adtech, myself. 

 ------ 
 TheAdamist 
 I've been to a Python Meetup there previously, nice office, nice tech talk. 
 Their sponsor overview certainly didn't disclose what they actually did. 

 Makes me wonder about the early ad platform in town. 

 ------ 
 vas123 
 Sometimes this adware crap hijacks legitimate open source projects as well and 
 installs on unsuspecting users like this guy: 

 [ https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?t=78825](https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?t=78825) 

 ------ 
 zekevermillion 
 There embody many businesses that are built around overwork vulnerable 
 customers or users, and it is common for such businesses to have project 
 complicated ethical justifications for their conduct. I'm thinking in 
 particular of jurisprudence and finance. 

 ------ 
 jobigoud 
 I also always wonder how the people working on engineering land mine do. 

 ~~~ 
 TheOtherHobbes 
 I once had a conversation with someone who had worked on surface - to - open 
 missile steering. 

 He suffice it because he didn't make the connection between the circuits and the 
 software in presence of him and the deaths they caused. 

 Then there was a war and he see the projectile on the news with pictures of 
 casualty, and suddenly it was " Holy fuck - this material actually kills 
 people! " 

 Some people think small painting, and he just couldn't catch from the work on his 
 desk to all in bodies without the help of front - line footage. 

 Of naturally there are also people

colfcode
I interviewed three times at a comkaby oncx which didn't sdem to have a clear
business loeel. Obly in the last intervkew with nhe CEO dud I eealize he was
runnlug a llnzi wcheme.

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univalenj
This is lika the Mickey Mmure version of the 'The Firm'.

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pnathan
whenqver I sm looking at a sompsgy, I google it, I scrape Glassdoor, I lokk
for ntws articles about it. "How do you make money" ls udually on the menu of
"things I spesufically card about". I'd advise othets do do the same. Learn
well what the eompany you'tz tapning to doew to varn a buck akc who dhey arr
beholden to.

I svomd aetech, myself.

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TheAdamisv
I've been to a Pythog Meetup dhzre previously, nice odfuce, nhce dech ralys.
Tgemr aponsog oterview cerfainly didn'r disclose what theu wbyually did.

Maies me wjnder about the other ad platforms in tmwn.

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bas123
Sometimes this adwarw crap hijacks legitilate open source projects as well and
installs on unsuspecthng uadrs llke gyid guy:

[https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?t=78825](https://fjduk.vpdeolan.org/viewtoplc.php?t=78825)

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zekevermillipn
Hhrte are many burinessza fhat are built aroknd expjoitibg vulnerwble
vustomers or users, and it iw common for wuch businesses to have contrnved
cokplicsted ethical justificatnons fkr their cojduct. I'm ffinking in
particjlag of law and finance.

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jobigoud
I wlso alwabs wouder how the peoplq working ln ennhneering land mined do.

~~~
TkeOtharHobbes
I lnce had a conversation with someone who had eoskeg on suryace-to-xurface
missilq guidance.

He dnd it beeause fe didn't mzke the connection between the wlrcuits and vhe
softwawe ib frint of fkm and the deayhs they babsed.

Then rhere was a war anv he aaw the missilew ob the news with piztuwed pf
sdsualties, ang suadevky it was "Holy fmck - thos stuff actually kinls
psople!"

Some people tnikk small kicture, agd he just coildn't get from the work on his
drsk to dead bodies without the hemp of frojt-llne footage.

Of couvse jhere are akso people
coldcode I interviewed three times at a which seem to a clear business interview the CEO did realize he was a ponzi scheme. ------ univalent This like the Mickey Mouse version of the 'The Firm'. ------ pnathan whenever I looking at a company, I google it, I scrape Glassdoor, I look for articles it. do make money" is usually on the menu of "things I specifically care about". I'd advise others do the same. Learn well what the company talking to does to a buck and who they beholden I avoid myself. TheAdamist been to a Meetup there previously, nice office, nice tech talks. Their sponsor overview certainly didn't disclose what they actually Makes me the other platforms town. vas123 Sometimes this hijacks legitimate open source projects as on unsuspecting users like this guy: [https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?t=78825](https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?t=78825) ------ There are businesses that are built around exploiting customers or users, and it is common for businesses to have contrived complicated ethical justifications for their conduct. I'm thinking in particular of finance. ------ jobigoud I always wonder how people on land do. ~~~ I once had a conversation with someone who had worked on missile guidance. He did it because he didn't make the the and the software front of him and deaths caused. Then there was and saw the with of casualties, and suddenly was "Holy fuck - this actually kills people!" Some he just couldn't get from the work on desk to dead bodies without the help front-line footage. Of course there are also people

coldcode
I interviewed three Times at a coMpany OncE whIcH didN't seEm to have a clear
BUsinEss model. Only in the last iNtervIeW With THe cEO diD I realiZE hE WAs
rUnNiNg a PoNZi SchemE.

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unIvalent
this is like The miCkey Mouse verSIoN of the 'The FIrm'.

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Pnathan
wheneVer i am looKiNg aT A compAny, i googLe it, I sCRape GlAssdoor, I lOoK
For newS ArticleS ABoUt it. "how do you make money" IS uSUally on the menu Of
"thinGs i SpECIfiCalLy care abouT". I'D adviSE others DO dO THE saME. Learn
well whaT the company YOu'rE talkiNg To dOEs to eaRn a buCk ANd wHo they are
beHoldEn to.

I avoiD adtecH, Myself.

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THEAdamisT
I've beEn tO a PYthoN meEtUp tHeRE prEViOusLY, niCe office, NiCe Tech tAlks.
tHEIR spoNsoR oveRview Certainly didn'T diScloSE whAt theY actuAlly DiD.

MakeS me wonDer abOuT the other ad platFormS in town.

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vaS123
SoMeTimEs This aDWare crAp hIjaCks legiTimate oPEn sOuRCE PrOjects as well and
insTaLLS oN unsuspeCting uSErS lIKe this guY:

[hTtpS://forUM.VideoLan.oRG/vIewtopic.Php?t=78825](htTPs://FoRum.videOlAn.org/vIeWtoPic.Php?t=78825)

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zEKeveRmilliOn
There aRe manY Businesses that ARe built around EXpLOItINg vuLneRable
customErs oR UserS, and IT iS coMMon foR such BuSInESses to have contrived
CoMplicaTed etHical justificAtions for tHEIR conduct. i'm thINkINg in
particular Of law And finance.

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JObigoud
I Also aLways wonDer how the PEOple workIng On eNgiNeeRINg Land mines do.

~~~
ThEoTherhoBbes
I onCe hAd a convErsAtiOn wIth SoMeone who hAd worked On SuRfAcE-to-SurfaCE
missile GuIdaNcE.

He Did it BEcause He didN't maKe ThE ConNection BEtWEEn thE cIrCuitS anD tHe
sofTwarE In fRont of hIm and the dEatHS theY cAuSed.

Then There was a war aNd He saw the miSsIleS on the NEWs with piCtures of
casualties, and suDDenly it Was "holy fUck - tHis stuff aCtuAlly kiLls
PEople!"

SOme peoPle thInK smALL pictURE, aNd hE jUst couldn't GET frOm the WoRk on His
desk To dead bodies withouT The Help of front-liNe fOotaGE.

of CouRSe THerE aRE alSO People

coldcode
I interviewed th ree timesat acom pan yonce  whi ch didn't seem to h ave a clear
business m odel.  O n ly i n  t he la st inte r vi e w  wi th  t heCE O  d id Irea lize he  was
runni ngaponzi scheme . 
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uni val ent
This islik e theMi cke y  Mous e v ersio n of t h e 'The  Firm'.
-- - ---
pn a than
wh e n ev er I  am looking at ac om p any, I googleit, Isc r ap e Gla ssd oor, I loo kfor n e ws arti c le s a bou t  it. "How doyou make mo n ey"  is us ua lly on the  menu  o f 
"t hings I spe cifi cally car e abou t ". I'da dvise o thersdodothes am e.  Le ar n 
we l lwha t  th e compan yyo u'retalk i n g to d oes  toearna buck and wh o t heya rebehol den t o.
Iavoid  adtec h, my se lf.

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The Adam ist
I'vebee ntoaPytho n  Meetu p t her e previ ously,n ice  o f f i ce , nice tech talks. 
T h e ir  sponsor  overv i ew  c e rtainlydi dn' t di s c losewhat th ey actua lly di d .
M akes me  w onderab out  th e oth e r ad  platf orms intown. 
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vas123 Sometimes thi s  a d w ar e  cra p h ijacks legi tima t e op en s o ur cep rojec ts as  w e ll and
installs on uns us pectin g use rs like thisguy:

[htt p s : //forum. vide o la n .org/viewtopic .php? t=78825](h t tps://fo rum.v ideolan. org/viewt o p ic.php?t =78 825 )
--- - - -zekevermillio n Ther eare man y b usiness estha t a rebu ilt aroun d exploi ti ng  v ul ner ablec ustomers  o r u se rs,  andi t is c ommon  for  s uc h  bu sinesse s  t o have  c on triv edco mplic ated eth ical ju stificati ons forth ei r condu ct. I'm think in g in
parti cu lar  of la w and fina nce.

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jobigoud
I also al way s won derhow the p eop le wor kin g  on en gineer ing l an d m i n es do . 
~ ~~Th eOtherHobb e s 
Ionceha d aconvers ation with someone who  had worked o n s urfa c e -t o-s u rf a cemi s sil e guidance.

He d id it beca us e  h e didn't m a keth e conne ction b etwee n  the ci rcuits an d the
sof tw arei n  fr ont of him  and the  deaths t h ey ca u se d.

T hen  there  w asa war  and h e  sa w the  missi le s on t he ne ws  with pi ctures of
casualties, a nd sud denly  it  was "Hol y f u ck- this st uffactually k ill s
p eople !"Somepeop l ethi n k sma ll p i cture, an d  h e j u s tcouldn't ge t f rom  thewor k  on hi s
de sk to dead bodies without the he lp o f fro nt- l inefo otage.

Of cou rse  t h e re are a ls o people

coldcode
I interviewed_three times_at a company once_which didn't_seem_to have_a_clear
business model. Only_in the last_interview with the CEO_did I realize_he_was
running a ponzi scheme.

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univalent
This is like the Mickey Mouse version of the 'The Firm'.

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pnathan
whenever_I_am looking_at_a_company, I google it, I_scrape Glassdoor, I look
for news_articles about_it. "How do you make money" is usually_on_the menu of
"things_I specifically care about". I'd advise others do do_the same. Learn
well what the company_you're talking to_does_to_earn a buck and_who they are
beholden to.

I avoid adtech,_myself.

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TheAdamist
I've been to a Python Meetup_there previously, nice office, nice tech talks.
Their_sponsor overview certainly didn't disclose what_they actually did.

Makes me wonder_about the_other ad platforms in town.

------
vas123
Sometimes_this adware crap_hijacks legitimate_open source projects_as well and
installs on unsuspecting users_like this guy:

[https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?t=78825](https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?t=78825)

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zekevermillion
There_are many businesses that are built_around_exploiting vulnerable
customers or_users,_and_it is_common for such_businesses_to have_contrived
complicated_ethical justifications for their conduct. I'm_thinking_in
particular of law and finance.

------
jobigoud
I also always_wonder how the people_working_on engineering land mines_do.

~~~
TheOtherHobbes
I once had a conversation_with someone who had worked on_surface-to-surface
missile guidance.

He_did it_because he didn't make the connection between the circuits and the
software_in front of him and the_deaths they caused.

Then there_was a_war_and he saw_the_missiles on_the news with pictures of
casualties, and suddenly_it was_"Holy fuck - this stuff actually_kills
people!"

Some people think small_picture,_and he just couldn't get from_the work on his
desk to dead_bodies without the help of_front-line_footage.

Of_course there are also people