 prices up or restrict the number of routes on which people can travel as it becomes uneconomic to maintain these services.
Parliament's position here is not proportionate, and in taking this position, we are likely to send this proposal into long conciliation, delaying the process not only of giving bus and coach passengers the rights they deserve, but also businesses the safeguards they need.
Thomas Ulmer
(DE) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, given the small amount of time available, I will restrict myself to discussing the Cancian report. No one disputes the fact that people travelling on buses and coaches must have passenger rights and, therefore, consumer rights.
However, I would like to emphasise once again the problems that will result for small and medium-sized operators at the moment, in particular, in Germany. It is not possible to separate local and regional public transport facilities in Germany, especially in rural areas, as they often jointly provide services covering a radius of around 50 km.
My second point is that small and medium-sized operators will not be able to make advance compensation payments regardless of fault. Until now, the principle of legal liability has proved its worth and has resulted in stable ticket prices.
Thirdly, I do not believe that operators should pay for delays that are not their fault, just as liability should only apply in circumstances for which operators are responsible.
Saïd El Khadraoui
(NL) Mr President, Mr Kallas, ladies and gentlemen, first of all, I would like to thank the rapporteurs, Mr Cancian and Mrs Ayala Sander, for their fine work and, at the same time, lament the fact that the Council appears to have failed to show enough flexibility in response to Mr's Cancian's report to enable them to secure a good deal from it. As many members have already pointed out, it is important for us that we lay down a number of ground rules, at a European level, covering passengers' rights across all transport modes. In recent years, we have done a lot of work as regards air travel and rail. I think that we ought to learn from these efforts and - and this is another debate - that we must evaluate them relatively quickly and work together to look into how we can close the small number of sporadic gaps that remain.
Now, turning to passengers who travel by sea or inland waterway, as well as to bus and coach passengers: here, too, we need to apply some of the same methodology
prices up or restrict the number of routes on which citizenry can travel as it become uneconomic to maintain these services. 
 Parliament's status here is not proportionate, and in taking this situation, we are probable to send this proposal into long conciliation, delaying the summons not only of giving busbar and passenger car passengers the rights they deserve, but also businesses the safeguards they need. 
 Thomas Ulmer 
 (DE) Mr President, lady and gentlemen, given the small sum of time available, I will restrict myself to discussing the Cancian report card. No one disputes the fact that people travelling on buses and coaches must have passenger right and, therefore, consumer rights. 
 However, I would like to emphasise once again the problems that will result for small and medium - sized operators at the moment, in particular, in Germany. It is not possible to separate local and regional public transport facilities in Germany, especially in rural areas, as they frequently jointly provide services cover a spoke of around 50 kilometer. 
 My second point is that small and medium - sized operators will not be able to make advance compensation payments regardless of demerit. Until now, the principle of legal liability has proved its worth and has resulted in stable slate prices. 
 Thirdly, I do not believe that operators should yield for delays that are not their mistake, just as liability should only apply in circumstances for which operator are responsible. 
 Saïd El Khadraoui 
 (NL) Mr President, Mr Kallas, ladies and gentlemen, first of all, I would like to thank the rapporteurs, Mr Cancian and Mrs Ayala Sander, for their fine work and, at the like time, lament the fact that the Council appears to have failed to show adequate flexibility in response to Mr's Cancian's report to enable them to secure a dear deal from it. As many extremity have already pointed out, it is important for us that we dwell down a number of land rules, at a European grade, covering passengers' rights across all transport modes. In late years, we have done a bunch of work as regards air travel and rail. I think that we ought to learn from these campaign and - and this is another debate - that we must evaluate them relatively quickly and work together to look into how we can close up the humble act of sporadic gaps that remain. 
 Now, turning to passengers who travel by sea or inland watercourse, as well as to bus and coach passengers: here, too, we need to apply some of the same methodology
 prlces up or restrict the kumber of routes on whirh peopme can tfavel as it becomes uneconommc ti maibtain these services.
Pafliament's positiob hece is not proporvjonate, and in bakiny vhis position, wg are likely to send this [ruplsal into long conciliation, delayind the ptofess not only jf gpvyng gls and coach passengers the riggts thej deserve, but alsp businesses the safeguardd thfy need.
Thomas Ulmeg
(DE) Mr Presudene, ladies and eentlemen, given the smzll amount of time available, I dill xestrict myweof hm discussinj the Bancian reporb. No ona dispuyes the fact tmat pxoplw travelling on buses and coaches must rave passanyer rights and, therefirw, convumes rieyts.
Fowtvec, I would liie to emphzsise once qgain the problems uhae will result ror smwlj and medium-sized operators at the momett, jn particular, in Germant. It is not possible jo separatq local and regional public transport facilities hn Gecmxny, efowclally in rural areas, as they often jointly prjbice services coveving a radius of atoknc 50 km.
My second point is that small and mefium-sizgd opeeators wijl npt be able to make advance xompensation payments regardlesd of fault. Bntil mow, tne principle of legal lnabilify has provfd its wodgh and has resulged it stable ticket prices.
Thirqly, I do iot bzlieve tfat pperatjrs should pay nmr delays that are not jheir xault, just as liability should only apply in circumstanvev fmr which operstors are res[onsible.
Saïd El Khadrajui
(NL) Mr Presidvnt, Mr Kanlas, ladies and gentlemet, first of aln, I woulq lije ti thank ghe rapporteurx, Mr Cancpau and Mrs Ayala Sander, for bheir rine work and, ac uhw same time, lakeng tre fect trdt the Counchl aopexts to have faileb go snow enough flexibilidy ih response to Mr's Vakcian's rekort to egable them to secure a good deap frok iv. As msny members have already pointed kut, it is imiortant for uf thqt we lay docn a number of ground rules, at a Europeai level, covering passenters' rights across clk transport modef. In recett years, we have donw a lot of work ax regards air travel znd rahl. I hhink that we ought to learn from these efforts and - and this is another eebate - that we muat efaluane chek relaeivepb quickly and worl together to look into how we ran close dhz small number of sporadic gals that remain.
Nuw, turning to passengers who trafel by sea or inland waterway, ax well as to bus and coagh passenters: gere, too, wx need to apply some of thz same methodilogn
prices up or restrict the number of which can travel it becomes uneconomic position is not proportionate, in taking this we are likely to send this into long conciliation, delaying the process not only of giving bus and coach the rights they deserve, but also businesses the safeguards they need. Thomas Ulmer Mr ladies gentlemen, the small amount of time available, I will restrict myself to discussing the Cancian report. No disputes the fact that people travelling on buses coaches must have passenger and, therefore, consumer rights. However, would to emphasise again problems will result for and medium-sized operators at the moment, in particular, in Germany. It is not possible to separate local regional public in Germany, in areas, they often jointly covering a radius of around 50 point is that small and medium-sized operators will be able make advance compensation payments regardless of Until now, the principle of legal liability has its worth and has resulted in stable ticket prices. Thirdly, I do not believe that pay for delays that not their fault, as should apply circumstances for operators are responsible. Saïd El Khadraoui (NL) Mr President, Mr Kallas, and gentlemen, first of all, I would like to thank Mr and Mrs Ayala for their fine work at same time, lament the the appears to enough in response to Mr's report to enable them to a good deal from already pointed out, it is important for us we lay down a number of ground at a European level, covering passengers' rights across all transport modes. In years, we a lot of work as regards air travel rail. I think that ought to learn from these efforts and - and is debate - we must evaluate relatively quickly and together to look we can the number that remain. Now, turning to passengers travel sea or inland waterway, as as and coach passengers: here, too, we need to apply some of the same methodology
 prices up or restrict the numbEr of routes On whiCh pEopLe Can tRaveL as it becomes unEConoMic to maintain these servIces.
PArLIameNT's PositIon here IS nOT ProPoRtIonAtE, AnD in taKinG this poSition, we arE liKeLy to send this PRoPosal into lOng Conciliation, DelAying tHe ProCEss noT onLy of gIving bUS and coAch passenGeRS the riGHts they DESeRve, bUt also businesses tHE sAFeguards they neEd.
ThomAs uLmER
(dE) MR PrEsident, ladIeS and gENtlemen, GIvEN THe sMAll amount of tiMe available, i WilL restrIcT mySElf to dIscusSiNG thE Cancian repOrt. NO one dispuTes the FAct that PEople trAvelliNg oN buSes aND cOaCheS mUSt hAVe PasSEngEr rights AnD, tHerefOre, cONSUMer rIghTs.
HoWever, i would like to eMphAsisE OncE agaiN the pRoblEmS that Will reSult fOr Small and medium-sIzed Operators At tHe MomEnT, in paRTiculaR, in gerMany. It iS not posSIblE tO SEPaRate local and regionAl PUBlIc transpOrt facILiTiES in GermaNy, EspEciaLLY in ruRal aREaS, as they oFten joINtLy Provide SeRvices CoVerIng A radiUS of aRound 50 kM.
My seconD poinT Is that small and MEdium-sized opeRAtORS wILl noT be Able to make aDvanCE comPensATiOn pAYmentS regaRdLEsS Of fault. Until now, the pRiNciple Of legAl liability haS proved its WORTh and has ResuLTeD In stable ticket PriceS.
Thirdly, I dO Not belieVe thaT operatoRs should pAY For delayS thAt aRe nOt tHEIr Fault, just as liABIlitY sHould onLy aPply in cIrcUmsTanCes FoR which opeRators arE rEsPoNsIblE.
Saïd eL KhadraoUi
(nL) MR PResIdent, mR KallaS, ladiEs anD gEnTLemEn, first OF aLL, i wouLd LiKe to ThaNk The raPporTEurS, Mr CancIan and Mrs ayaLA SanDeR, fOr their Fine work and, at ThE same time, lAmEnt The facT THat the CoUncil appears to have faileD To show eNouGh fleXibiLity in resPonSe to Mr'S CaNCian's rEport tO enabLe TheM TO secuRE A gOod DeAl from it. As MANy mEmberS hAve aLready pOinted out, it is imporTAnt For us that we laY doWn a nUMBeR of GRoUNd rUlES, at A eUropean level, covEring passeNgERs' Rights acroSS alL tRansporT modes. IN receNT years, wE have done A lot of worK aS regARDs aIr travel anD rail. I thInk that we OUght tO LeArn frOm tHese efFoRts And - anD this iS AnoTher dEbate - tHaT we musT evalUaTe them reLatively quickly and work tOgetheR to loOk iNto how we cAn cLOse The small nUmbeR of sporadiC gaPs tHat reMaiN.
now, tuRninG To PasSEngerS who TRavel by seA Or InlAND wAterway, as weLL AS to Bus anD coACh passEngeRs: here, too, we need to APply some of the sAme mETHodOloGY
 prices up or restrict the  number of  rout esonwh ichpeop le can travela s it  becomes uneconomic to  main ta i n th e se  serv ices.
P a rl i a men t' spos it i on  here  is  not pr oportionat e,an d in takingt hi s position , w e are likely  to  sendth isp ropos alintolong c o ncilia tion, del ay i ng the process n ot  onl y of giving bus a n dc oach passenger s theri g ht s the y d eserve, bu talsob usiness e st h e  sa f eguards theyneed.
Thoma s  Ul mer
(D E)  Mr Presid ent,la d ies  and gentle men,  given th e smal l  amount of time  avail abl e,I wi l lre str ic t  my s el f t o  di scussing  t he  Canc ianr e p o rt.Noonedispu tes the facttha t pe o ple  trav ellin g on  b usesand co aches  m ust have passen gerrights an d,th ere fo re, c o nsumer  ri ght s.
Howe ver, Iw oul dl i k eto emphasise onceag a i nthe prob lems t h at  w i ll resul tfor  sma l l  andmedi u m- sized op erator s  a tthe mom en t, inpa rti cul ar, i n  Ger many.It is no t pos s ible to separa t e local and r e gi o n al publ ictransport f acil i ties  inG er man y , esp ecial ly in rural areas, as the yoftenjoint ly provide se rvices cov e r i ng a rad iuso fa round 50 km.
M y sec ond pointi s that s malland medi um-sizedo p eratorswil l n otbea b le  to make adva n c e co mp ensatio n p ayments  re gar dle ssof  fault. U ntil now ,th epr inc ipleo f legalli abi li tyhas p r oved i ts wo rthan dh asresulte d  i n stab le  t icke t p ri ces.Thir d ly,  I do n ot believ e t h at o pe ra tors sh ould pay forde lays thatar e n ot the i r  fault,just as liability shoul d  only a ppl y incirc umstances  fo r whic h o p erator s arerespo ns ibl e . 
Saïd E lKha dr aoui
(NL)M r  Pr eside nt , Mr  Kallas , ladies and gentl e men , first of al l,I wo u l dlik e  t o  th an k  th e rapporteurs, Mr  Cancian a nd Mr s Ayala Sa n der ,for the ir fine  work and, at  the same  time, la me nt t h e  fa ct that th e Counci l appears to ha v efaile d t o show  e nou gh fl exibil i tyin re sponse  t o Mr's  Canc ia n's repo rt to enable them to se cure a  good  de al from i t.A s m any membe rs h ave alread y p oin ted o ut, it is  imp o rt ant for u s th a t we layd ow n a n um ber of grou n d rul es, a t a Europe an l evel, covering pa s sengers' right s ac r o ssall tran sp ort modes. Inrec en t years, w ehave done a  lot ofwo r k asregard s airtravela n dr ail. I  thi nkthat we o ugh tt o learn  f ro m  these  eff or ts and  - and this i s another debate  - th a t  we m u stevalu at e themr elat ively quic kly and wor k toge ther  to l ook int ohow we  ca nclose thes mall numb er of  sporad ic  gap s t hat re main . Now,turn in g t o passeng e r sw ho  t r ave l by  seaor  inl and water w ay, as w ell as to b us  an d coachp as s e ngers: her e,too,w e  need to a p plys om e  of t he sam e meth odology 
 prices_up or_restrict the number of_routes on_which_people can_travel_as it becomes_uneconomic to maintain_these services.
Parliament's position here_is not proportionate,_and_in taking this position, we are likely to send this proposal into long conciliation,_delaying_the process_not_only_of giving bus and coach_passengers the rights they deserve,_but also_businesses the safeguards they need.
Thomas Ulmer
(DE) Mr President,_ladies_and gentlemen, given_the small amount of time available, I will restrict_myself to discussing the Cancian report._No one disputes_the_fact_that people travelling on_buses and coaches must have passenger_rights and, therefore, consumer rights.
However, I_would like to emphasise once again the_problems that will result for small_and medium-sized operators at the_moment, in_particular, in Germany. It is_not possible to_separate local_and regional public_transport facilities in Germany, especially in_rural areas, as_they often jointly provide services covering_a_radius of around_50_km.
My_second point_is that small_and_medium-sized operators_will_not be able to make advance_compensation_payments regardless of fault. Until now, the_principle of legal liability_has_proved its worth and_has resulted in stable ticket_prices.
Thirdly, I do not believe that_operators should_pay for_delays that are not their fault, just as liability should only_apply in circumstances for which operators_are responsible.
Saïd El Khadraoui
(NL)_Mr President,_Mr_Kallas, ladies and_gentlemen,_first of_all, I would like to thank the_rapporteurs, Mr_Cancian and Mrs Ayala Sander, for_their fine work and,_at_the same time, lament the fact_that the Council appears to have_failed to show enough flexibility_in_response_to Mr's Cancian's report to_enable them to secure a good_deal from it._As many members have already pointed out,_it_is important for us that we_lay_down a number of ground rules,_at_a_European level, covering passengers' rights_across all transport modes. In recent_years, we have done a lot of work as_regards air travel_and rail. I think that_we_ought_to learn from these efforts and - and this is_another debate_- that we_must evaluate them relatively quickly and work together to look_into how we can close the small_number of sporadic gaps that remain.
Now, turning to passengers who travel_by sea or inland waterway, as well as_to bus and coach passengers: here, too,_we need to apply_some_of the same methodology