'm not entirely sure we need to do it since we aren't claiming ownership or anything, mostly just providing help, but I guess it's a nice courtesy
23:39 <+Bart_Massey> agd5f: Exactly. And a genuine offer, I think, to help do more if they want it.
23:39 <agd5f> fine. I'll take (1) as well
23:39 <+Bart_Massey> Thanks hugely. Like I say, LMK how I can help.
23:40 <+Bart_Massey> OK, one more topic, since we have a couple more minutes.
23:40 <+Bart_Massey> I'm looking right now at about 5 different "logo design contest" sites.
23:40 <+Bart_Massey> Is there consensus that it's time for a new, officially-trademarked X.Org logo?
23:40 <+Bart_Massey> If so, how much are we willing to pay for it, and shall I set the contest up this week?
23:42 <+Bart_Massey> Anybody?
23:42 <agd5f> I don't have a strong opinion either way
23:43 <+Bart_Massey> Alright, I guess I'll take that one to email or we'll try again next mtg
23:43 <stukreit> bart: was it you or someone else who raised this issue?
23:43 <+Bart_Massey> stukreit: It has been raised several times in the last year or two.
23:43 <+Bart_Massey> But there was a lot of talk of it at XDC
23:43 <stukreit> please refresh me on 2 or 3 reasons why its important
23:44 <+Bart_Massey> The recent "Messenger-X" thing highlighted the fact that we currently have no logo that is trademarked or even trademarkable
23:44 <+Bart_Massey> The current logo doesn't reproduce well, doesn't look good on t-shirts and the like, is terrible at small sizes, and is generally disliked
23:45 <+Bart_Massey> We have a new organization now, and might want to differentiate ourselves
23:45 <
' m not entirely sure we need to do it since we aren't claim possession or anything, mostly just provide assistant, but I guess it's a nice courtesy 
 23:39 < + Bart_Massey > agd5f: precisely. And a genuine offer, I remember, to help do more if they desire it. 
 23:39 < agd5f > fine. I'll take (1) as well 
 23:39 < + Bart_Massey > Thanks hugely. Like I read, LMK how I can help. 
 23:40 < + Bart_Massey > OK, one more subject, since we have a couple more moment. 
 23:40 < + Bart_Massey > I'm looking right now at about 5 unlike " logo design contest " sites. 
 23:40 < + Bart_Massey > Is there consensus that it's clock time for a new, formally - trademarked X.Org logo? 
 23:40 < + Bart_Massey > If indeed, how much are we willing to pay for it, and shall I set the contest up this workweek? 
 23:42 < + Bart_Massey > Anybody? 
 23:42 < agd5f > I don't have a strong opinion either way 
 23:43 < + Bart_Massey > Alright, I guess I'll take that one to e-mail or we'll test again next mtg 
 23:43 < stukreit > bart: was it you or someone else who raised this issue? 
 23:43 < + Bart_Massey > stukreit: It has been raised several times in the last year or two. 
 23:43 < + Bart_Massey > But there was a batch of talk of it at XDC 
 23:43 < stukreit > please refresh me on 2 or 3 reason why its authoritative 
 23:44 < + Bart_Massey > The recent " Messenger - X " thing highlighted the fact that we currently have no logo that is trademarked or even trademarkable 
 23:44 < + Bart_Massey > The current logo doesn't reproduce well, doesn't look effective on t - shirts and the like, is terrible at small sizes, and is broadly disliked 
 23:45 < + Bart_Massey > We have a new organization nowadays, and might want to distinguish ourselves 
 23:45 <
'm nlt entirely sure we need to do it since we arei't claijing owndrship or anything, mostly judt provuding help, but I guess it's a nibe courtewy
23:39 <+Bert_Massey> agd5f: Eezctly. Akb a gskuine iffer, I think, jo help do mmre if they watt ic.
23:39 <agd5f> fine. I'll take (1) as well
23:39 <+Bart_Mafsey> Thsnns hugely. Like I ssr, LMI how I can help.
23:40 <+Bart_Massey> OK, one more tmpic, since we have a couple more minuted.
23:40 <+Bagt_Massey> I'm lookinh right now at wvout 5 differdnt "logo dtsngn contest" sites.
23:40 <+Bart_Massey> Is there consdnsus that it's jnne vmr a new, ofhicialjy-trademarked X.Org lmgo?
23:40 <+Bary_Massey> If so, mow mnch qre we willing to pay for it, and shall Y set the ckntest up this wewk?
23:42 <+Bart_Kassay> Avtboay?
23:42 <zgv5f> J don't hate a strong opinion eirher way
23:43 <+Bart_Massey> Ajgoght, I guess I'll twkq that one to email or we'll try again ntxt mfg
23:43 <stukreit> bart: was it you or someone else aho raiseq this issue?
23:43 <+Bart_Massey> stukreit: It has been raisad setefal tlmes un the last year or two.
23:43 <+Bart_Massey> But there waf a lpt of talk of lt at XDC
23:43 <stukreit> ppesfe refresh me on 2 ox 3 deasons why its imoortant
23:44 <+Bart_Nassey> Tht recrnt "Messenger-X" thing highlithted the fabt tyat we currently hcve no logo chat ix tracemarked or even trademcrkabls
23:44 <+Bart_Massej> The curddnt logo doesn't fepgoduwe well, doesn't look good og t-shirts and the liye, ix terryble at smwll slses, and is generalpy didlhked
23:45 <+Bart_Mwssey> We have a new organizatioi now, and mignt watt to diyferenbiate ourselves
23:45 <
'm not entirely sure we need to since aren't claiming or anything, mostly guess a nice courtesy <+Bart_Massey> agd5f: Exactly. a genuine offer, I think, to do more if they want it. 23:39 <agd5f> fine. I'll take (1) as 23:39 <+Bart_Massey> Thanks hugely. Like I say, LMK how I can help. 23:40 OK, more since have a couple more minutes. 23:40 <+Bart_Massey> I'm looking right now at about 5 different "logo contest" sites. 23:40 <+Bart_Massey> Is there consensus that time for a new, X.Org logo? 23:40 <+Bart_Massey> If how are we to for and shall I the contest up this week? 23:42 <+Bart_Massey> Anybody? 23:42 <agd5f> I don't have a strong opinion either 23:43 <+Bart_Massey> guess I'll that to or we'll try mtg 23:43 <stukreit> bart: was it else who raised this issue? 23:43 <+Bart_Massey> stukreit: has been several times in the last year two. 23:43 <+Bart_Massey> But there was a lot talk of it at XDC 23:43 <stukreit> please refresh me on 2 or 3 reasons important 23:44 <+Bart_Massey> The "Messenger-X" thing highlighted fact we have logo that trademarked or even trademarkable 23:44 <+Bart_Massey> The current logo doesn't reproduce doesn't look good on t-shirts and the like, is terrible sizes, is generally disliked <+Bart_Massey> We have a organization and might want to 23:45
'm not entirely sure we need to dO it since we Aren't ClaImiNg OwneRshiP or anything, mosTLy juSt providing help, but I gueSs it's A nICe coURtEsy
23:39 <+BaRt_MasseY> AgD5F: exaCtLy. and A gENuIne ofFer, i think, tO help do morE if ThEy want it.
23:39 <agd5f> FInE. I'll take (1) as WelL
23:39 <+Bart_Massey> THanKs hugeLy. likE i say, LmK hOw I caN help.
23:40 <+BARt_MassEy> OK, one moRe TOpic, siNCe we havE A CoUple More minutes.
23:40 <+Bart_MaSSeY> i'm looking right Now at aBoUT 5 dIFFerEnt "Logo design CoNtest" SItes.
23:40 <+BarT_maSSEY> Is THere consensus That it's time FOr a New, offIcIalLY-tradeMarkeD X.oRg lOgo?
23:40 <+Bart_MassEy> If So, how much Are we wILling to PAy for it, And shaLl I Set The cONtEsT up ThIS weEK?
23:42 <+BArt_mAssEy> AnybodY?
23:42 <aGd5F> I don'T havE A STRong OpiNion EitheR way
23:43 <+Bart_MasseY> AlRighT, i guEss I'lL take That OnE to emAil or wE'll trY aGain next mtg
23:43 <stukReit> Bart: was it You Or SomEoNe elsE Who raiSed ThiS issue?
23:43 <+BArt_MassEY> stUkREIT: IT has been raised seveRaL TImEs in the lAst yeaR Or TwO.
23:43 <+bart_MassEy> but TherE WAs a loT of tALk Of it at XDc
23:43 <stukrEIt> PlEase refReSh me on 2 Or 3 ReaSonS why iTS impOrtant
23:44 <+bart_MassEy> The REcent "Messenger-x" Thing highlighTEd THE fACt thAt wE currently hAve nO Logo That IS tRadEMarkeD or evEn TRaDEmarkable
23:44 <+Bart_Massey> thE curreNt logO doesn't reprodUce well, doeSN'T Look good On t-sHIrTS and the like, is tErribLe at small sIZes, and is GenerAlly dislIked
23:45 <+Bart_MASSey> We havE a nEw oRgaNizATIoN now, and might wANT to dIfFerentiAte OurselvEs
23:45 <
'm not entirely sure we ne ed to do i t sin cewear en't  cla iming ownershi p  oranything, mostly justprovi di n g he l p,  butI guess it ' s  ani ce  co ur t es y
23: 39<+Bart_ Massey> ag d5f :Exactly. And agenuine of fer , I think, t o h elp do  m ore if th eywantit.
23 : 39 <ag d5f> fine .I 'll ta k e (1) a s we ll
2 3:39 <+Bart_Masse y >T hanks hugely.Like I  s a y, L MKhow  I can hel p. 
23:4 0  <+Bart _ Ma s s e y>O K, one more t opic, since wehave a  c oup l e more  minu te s .
2 3:40 <+Bart _Mas sey> I'mlookin g  rightn ow at a bout 5  di ffe rent "l og o d es i gnc on tes t " s ites.
23 :4 0<+Bar t_Ma s s e y > Is  th ereconse nsus that it' s t imef ora new , off icia ll y-tra demark ed X. Or g logo?
23:40 < +Bar t_Massey>  If  s o,ho w muc h  are w e w ill ing topay for it,  a n d sh all I set the cont es t up  this we ek?
23 : 42  < + Bart_Mas se y>Anyb o d y?
23 :42< ag d5f> I d on't h a ve  a  strong  o pinion  e ith erway
2 3 :43<+Bart _Massey>  Alri g ht, I guess I' l l take that o n et o  e m ailorwe'll try a gain next  mtg 23 :43 <stuk reit>  b a rt :  was it you or some on e else  whoraised this i ssue?
23:4 3 < +Bart_Ma ssey >  s t ukreit: It has  been  raised se v eral tim es in  the las t year or t wo.
23:4 3 < +Ba rt_ Mas s e y>  But there wa s a lo tof talk  of  it atXDC 
23 :43  <s tu kreit> pl ease ref re sh  m eon2 or3  reasons  w hyit s i mport a nt
23: 44 <+ Bart _M as s ey>  The re c en t "Mes se ng er-X " t hi ng hi ghli g hte d the f act thatwec urre nt ly  have n o logo that i strademarke doreven t r a demarkab le
23:44 <+Bart_Massey> The cur ren t log o do esn't rep rod uce we ll, doesn' t look  good  o n t - s hirts a nd  th elike, is t e r rib le at  s mall  sizes,  and is generallyd isl iked
23:45 <+ Bar t_Ma s s ey > W e  h a vean ewo r ganization now,  and might  w a nt  to differ e nti at e ourse lves
23 :45 < 
'm not_entirely sure_we need to do_it since_we_aren't claiming_ownership_or anything, mostly_just providing help,_but I guess it's_a nice courtesy
23:39_<+Bart_Massey>_agd5f: Exactly. And a genuine offer, I think, to help do more if they_want_it.
23:39 <agd5f>_fine._I'll_take (1) as well
23:39 <+Bart_Massey>_Thanks hugely. Like I say,_LMK how_I can help.
23:40 <+Bart_Massey> OK, one more topic,_since_we have a_couple more minutes.
23:40 <+Bart_Massey> I'm looking right now at_about 5 different "logo design contest"_sites.
23:40 <+Bart_Massey> Is_there_consensus_that it's time for_a new, officially-trademarked X.Org logo?
23:40 <+Bart_Massey>_If so, how much are we_willing to pay for it, and shall_I set the contest up this_week?
23:42 <+Bart_Massey> Anybody?
23:42 <agd5f> I_don't have_a strong opinion either way
23:43_<+Bart_Massey> Alright, I_guess I'll_take that one_to email or we'll try again_next mtg
23:43 <stukreit>_bart: was it you or someone_else_who raised this_issue?
23:43_<+Bart_Massey>_stukreit: It_has been raised_several_times in_the_last year or two.
23:43 <+Bart_Massey> But_there_was a lot of talk of it_at XDC
23:43 <stukreit> please_refresh_me on 2 or_3 reasons why its important
23:44_<+Bart_Massey> The recent "Messenger-X" thing highlighted_the fact_that we_currently have no logo that is trademarked or even trademarkable
23:44 <+Bart_Massey>_The current logo doesn't reproduce well,_doesn't look good on_t-shirts and_the_like, is terrible_at_small sizes,_and is generally disliked
23:45 <+Bart_Massey> We have_a new_organization now, and might want to_differentiate ourselves
23:45 <