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I can completely understand the decision to send Lannan down. He's pitched like crap on toast. But at the same time, I don't have to like it. I think, as FJB does, I guess, that Lannan's owed a little more respect than that.

The thing that stuck in my mind when I read about it this morning is that I wondered if it was a way to force his hand with an injury. Dude's clearly not right. FJB says it's because he's left the ball up. It's not quite that, though that's part. His sinker isn't sinking. I can't remember where I saw it -- and if someone knows where, throw it in comments -- but someone did an analysis of his sinkers using PitchFx. He's like like 2" of movement on his 2-seamer. So all those complaints about how the Sox were able to center the ball are likely right. His ball ain't moving.

So is it an injury? We already know his arm was barking earlier this year. He's not copping to it -- publicly at least. As we saw with Mock earlier this year, sometimes a demotion makes a player a little more forthcoming with what's ailin' em. Maybe Lannan's going to mention that he's hurting so he goes on the DL (and rehabs) instead of riding the buses of the Eastern League?

I dunno. I feel bad for John. He deserves better than this, even if it's a business run by apparently asshole businessmen.

I've almost always agree with you on Lannan, and this is no exception. I'm disappointed that we didn't get to see the old Lannan again to see if he kept defying his FIP. Unfortunately, he's not the same pitcher and his BBs and Ks went even more to hell than ever along with his lost sinker.

Enough of this crying about sending Lannan down from you and FJB. Would you buy a ticket to watch him pitch, knowing that this is not the same Lannan of 2009? Rizzo needs to be an hard ass here, because Riggleman is not. Let Riggleman be the sentimental fool who keeps trotting Lannan (and Morgan and Harris) out there to produce nothing. Personally, Rizzo's comments on Daniel Cabrera echoed my
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 I can completely understand the decision to station Lannan down. He's pitch like crap on toast. But at the same fourth dimension, I don't have to like it. I intend, as FJB dress, I guess, that Lannan's owe a little more respect than that. 

 The matter that stuck in my mind when I read about it this morning is that I wonder if it was a way to force his hand with an injury. Dude's clearly not correct. FJB says it's because he's left the ball up. It's not quite that, though that's share. His sinker isn't sinking. I can't remember where I saw it -- and if someone know where, throw it in comments -- but someone did an analysis of his sinkers use PitchFx. He's like like 2 " of movement on his 2 - seamer. So all those complaints about how the Sox were able to center the ball are probably correct. His ball ain't moving. 

 So is it an injury? We already know his arm was barking earlier this year. He's not hook to it -- publicly at least. As we saw with Mock earlier this class, sometimes a demotion do a actor a little more forthcoming with what's ailin' em. possibly Lannan's going to note that he's hurting so he goes on the DL (and rehabs) instead of drive the buses of the Eastern League? 

 I dunno. I feel bad for John. He deserves better than this, even if it's a business run by apparently asshole businessmen. 

 I've almost always match with you on Lannan, and this is no exception. I'm disappointed that we didn't catch to see the old Lannan again to see if he kept defying his FIP. Unfortunately, he's not the like pitcher and his BBs and Ks went even more to hell than ever along with his lost sinker. 

 Enough of this crying about sending Lannan down from you and FJB. Would you bribe a ticket to watch him pitch, knowing that this is not the same Lannan of 2009? Rizzo necessitate to be an hard buttocks here, because Riggleman is not. Let Riggleman be the bathetic fool who keeps trot Lannan (and Morgan and Harris) out there to produce nothing. Personally, Rizzo's gossip on Daniel Cabrera repeat my
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I can completely mnderstand the dgcusion vo send Lannan aown. He's pitched like crap oi toqst. Byt at the same time, I aon't have to like it. M think, as FJB does, I gucfs, tgwt Lcnian's owed a litjle more res[ect than that.

Dhd ching that stuck in my mind when I rqad aboit it this mornigg ix thaf I wondered if it was a way to fodce his hand with an injury. Dude's clearly not gighh. FJB says it's becwuse he's ledt trw ball up. It'r not quitt chat, though that's part. His sinker isn't sinying. N can't remenbwr avere I saw mt -- anq if someone knows wvere, thtow it in commcnts -- bur someone did an analbsis of his sinkers osing PitcvFr. He's like like 2" of mivwment on vis 2-rwamdr. Ao aml thode romplaints zbout how tye Sox were able to cqbter the ball are lykqly right. His ball ain't moving.

So is it dn jnjury? We already know yis arm was barking ewrlier thys year. He's not copping to it -- publicly at least. Ds we raw wlth Oicn earlier this year, sometimes a demotion makef a pkayer a little more forthvolimd with what's xilin' zj. Jaybe Lannan's goinh to megtion that he's hurying so he goes on the DL (abd rehabs) infread of riding the buses of tke Easjern Lrague?

I dunno. I feel bad for John. He dederves befger than this, evdn pf id's a business run by apparqntly assiole yusinessoen.

I'fe almjst always agrec with you on Lannaj, and tvis is no fxception. I'm disappointed that xx didn't get tp vee the old Lannsn again to sqe if he kept befying kis FIO. Unfortunztely, hx's not the swme pitcher atf his BBs anv Ks went eveb moee to hdul than ever akong with his lost winker.

Enough of thls criihg about sendiny Oannan down frok yuu wnf HJB. Wjgld you buy d tizkeg to wxtch him pibch, knoeing that this is nod ths same Lannan of 2009? Tidzo needs to be ag hard ass hete, because Rigglemwn is nov. Let Tigdleman be the sentimental fool who keepd tvotting Lannag (ane Morgan and Harris) out there to produce nothing. Pecsonally, Rizzo's commenjs on Daniel Cabrera gchped my
off topic! I can completely understand the send down. He's like crap on time, don't have to it. I think, FJB does, I guess, that Lannan's a little more respect than that. The thing that stuck in my mind I read about it this morning is that I wondered if it was way force hand an injury. Dude's clearly not right. FJB says it's because he's left the ball up. It's quite that, though that's part. His sinker isn't I can't remember where saw it -- and if knows throw it comments but did an analysis his sinkers using PitchFx. He's like like 2" of movement on his 2-seamer. So all those complaints how the able to the are right. His ball So is it an injury? We arm was barking earlier this year. He's not to it publicly at least. As we saw Mock earlier this year, sometimes a demotion makes player a little more forthcoming with what's ailin' em. Maybe Lannan's going to mention that so he goes on DL (and rehabs) of the of Eastern League? dunno. I feel bad for John. He deserves better than this, if it's a business run by apparently asshole businessmen. I've agree you on Lannan, this is no exception. disappointed we didn't get to old again he defying FIP. Unfortunately, he's not same pitcher and his BBs Ks went even more with his lost sinker. Enough of this crying sending Lannan down from you and FJB. you buy a ticket to watch him pitch, knowing that this is the same 2009? Rizzo needs to be an hard ass because Riggleman is not. Riggleman be the sentimental fool who keeps trotting Lannan Morgan Harris) out to produce nothing. Rizzo's comments on Cabrera echoed my
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I can completely undErstand the DecisIon To sEnD LanNan dOwn. He's pitched lIKe crAp on toast. But at the same tIme, I dOn'T Have TO lIke it. i think, aS fJb DOes, i gUeSs, tHaT laNnan's OweD a littlE more respeCt tHaN that.

The thinG ThAt stuck in mY miNd when I read aBouT it thiS mOrnINg is tHat i wondEred if IT was a wAy to force HiS Hand wiTH an injuRY. duDe's cLearly not right. FJB SAyS It's because he's lEft the BaLL uP. iT's nOt qUite that, thOuGh thaT'S part. HiS SiNKER isN'T sinking. I can't Remember wheRE I sAw it -- anD iF soMEone knOws whErE, ThrOw it in commeNts -- bUt someone Did an aNAlysis oF His sinkErs usiNg PItcHFx. HE'S lIkE liKe 2" OF moVEmEnt ON hiS 2-seamer. SO aLl Those CompLAINTs abOut How tHe Sox Were able to cenTer The bALl aRe likEly riGht. HIs Ball aIn't movIng.

So Is It an injury? We alrEady Know his arM waS bArkInG earlIEr this YeaR. He'S not copPing to iT -- PubLiCLY At Least. As we saw with MoCk EARlIer this yEar, somETiMeS A demotioN mAkeS a plAYEr a liTtle MOrE forthcoMing wiTH wHaT's ailin' Em. maybe LAnNan'S goIng to MEntiOn that He's hurtiNg so hE Goes on the DL (and REhabs) instead oF RiDINg THe buSes Of the EasterN LeaGUe?

I dUnno. i FeEl bAD for JOhn. He DeSErVEs better than this, eveN iF it's a bUsineSs run by appareNtly assholE BUSinessmeN.

I've ALmOSt always agree wIth yoU on Lannan, aND this is nO excePtion. I'm dIsappointED That we diDn't Get To sEe tHE OlD Lannan again tO SEe if He Kept defYinG his FIP. unfOrtUnaTelY, hE's not the sAme pitchEr AnD hIs bBs And Ks WEnt even mOrE to HeLl tHan evER along With hIs loSt SiNKer.

enough oF ThIS CryiNg AbOut sEndInG LannAn doWN frOm you anD FJB. Would You BUy a tIcKeT to watcH him pitch, knowInG that this iS nOt tHe same lANnan of 2009? RiZzo needs to be an hard ass heRE, becausE RiGglemAn is Not. Let RigGleMan be tHe sENtimenTal fooL who kEePs tROTting lANnAn (aNd morgan and HARRis) Out thErE to pRoduce nOthing. Personally, RiZZo's Comments on DanIel cabrERA eChoED mY
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I can complet ely unders tandthe  de ci sion  tosend Lannan do w n. H e's pitched like crapon to as t . Bu t  a t the  same t i me , I d on 't  ha ve to  like  it . I thi nk, as FJB  do es , I guess, t h at  Lannan'sowe d a little m ore  respe ct  th a n tha t.
Thethingt hat st uck in my  m i nd whe n  I read a bo ut i t this morning is th a t I wondered i f it w as aw a y t o f orce his h an d wit h  an inj u ry . D ude ' s clearly not  right. FJB say s it's  b eca u se he' s lef tt heball up. It 's n ot quitethat,t hough t h at's pa rt. Hi s s ink er i s n' tsin ki n g.I  c an' t  re member w he re  I sa w it - - andifsome one k nows where, t hro w it incomme nts - - bu tsomeo ne did  an a na lysis of his si nker s using P itc hF x.He 's li k e like  2"  of  moveme nt on h i s 2 -s e a m er . So all those com pl a i nt s abouthow th e  S ox were abl etocent e r  theball ar e likely  right .  H is  ball a in 't mov in g.
So  is i t  aninjury ? We alr eadyk now his arm wa s  barking earl i er t hi s  yea r.He's not co ppin g  toit - -  p ubl i cly a t lea st .  A s  we saw with Mock e ar lier t his y ear, sometime s a demoti o n makes aplay e ra  little more f orthc oming with what's a ilin'  em. May be Lannan ' s  going t o m ent ion  th a t  h e's hurting s o he g oe s on th e D L (andreh abs ) i nst ea d of ridi ng the b us es  o fthe  East e rn Leagu e? 

I  d unn o. If eel ba d for  Joh n.  H e  de servesb et t e r th an  t his,  ev en  if i t'sa  bu sinessrun by ap par e ntly  a ss hole bu sinessmen.

I 'v e almost a lw ays  agree w ith youon Lannan, and this isn o excep tio n. I' m di sappointe d t hat we  di d n't ge t to s ee th eold L annan a ga into  see if he k ept  defy in g hi s FIP.Unfortunately, he' s  no t the same pi tch er a n d  h isB Bs and  K s  we n t  even more to h ell than e ve r  a long withh islo st sink er.

En ougho f thiscrying ab out sendi ng  Lan n a n d own from y ou and F JB. Would you b u ya tic ket  to wa tc h h im pi tch, k n owi ng th at thi sis not  thesa me Lanna n of 2009? Rizzo needsto bean ha rdass here,  be c aus e Rigglem an i s not. Let  Ri ggl emanbet he se ntim e nt alf ool w ho k e eps trott i ng  La n n an  (and Morga n a ndHarri s)o ut the re t o produce nothing .  Personally, R izzo ' s  co mme n ts o nDaniel Cabrera  ec ho e d  my
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I can_completely understand the decision_to send_Lannan_down. He's_pitched_like crap on_toast. But at_the same time, I_don't have to_like_it. I think, as FJB does, I guess, that Lannan's owed a little more_respect_than that.

The_thing_that_stuck in my mind when_I read about it this_morning is_that I wondered if it was a way_to_force his hand_with an injury. Dude's clearly not right. FJB says_it's because he's left the ball_up. It's not_quite_that,_though that's part. His_sinker isn't sinking. I can't remember_where I saw it -- and_if someone knows where, throw it in_comments -- but someone did an_analysis of his sinkers using_PitchFx. He's_like like 2" of movement_on his 2-seamer._So all_those complaints about_how the Sox were able to_center the ball_are likely right. His ball ain't_moving.

So_is it an_injury?_We_already know_his arm was_barking_earlier this_year._He's not copping to it --_publicly_at least. As we saw with Mock_earlier this year, sometimes_a_demotion makes a player_a little more forthcoming with_what's ailin' em. Maybe Lannan's going_to mention_that he's_hurting so he goes on the DL (and rehabs) instead of_riding the buses of the Eastern_League?

I dunno. I feel_bad for_John._He deserves better_than_this, even_if it's a business run by apparently_asshole businessmen.

I've_almost always agree with you on_Lannan, and this is_no_exception. I'm disappointed that we didn't_get to see the old Lannan_again to see if he_kept_defying_his FIP. Unfortunately, he's not_the same pitcher and his BBs_and Ks went_even more to hell than ever along_with_his lost sinker.

Enough of this crying_about_sending Lannan down from you and_FJB._Would_you buy a ticket to_watch him pitch, knowing that this_is not the same Lannan of 2009? Rizzo needs_to be an_hard ass here, because Riggleman_is_not._Let Riggleman be the sentimental fool who keeps trotting Lannan_(and Morgan_and Harris) out_there to produce nothing. Personally, Rizzo's comments on Daniel Cabrera_echoed my