 everybody. Did you see the link to William Connolley’s blog in the last thread, where he ridicules this effort?”
Thanks – yes it’s quite impressive, given his track record…

Smokey – I estimate the shadow in the picture shows a latitude of around 20 -30N.
I have Google Sketchup pro where you can input the exact location and it casts shadows. To get a shadow that short I needed to reduce the latitude to 20N at noon.

Now they say they were not expecting mostly first-year ice ice, but when they started they expected 80% first year ice:

Pen, Ann and Martin are also keeping a close eye on the weather. Daytime temperatures are currently around -40ºC (-40Fº), and the ice is looking reasonably good so far (being a mix of 80% first year ice and 20% older ice), but the air pressure is dropping rapidly, suggesting that there may be a serious weather front closing in. All to be confirmed in their next dispatch, however.

What planet do you lot come from Here is a processed image from the PDF
1- The image size is 640×427 pixels
2 – the “pole shadow” does not mee the pole base – do not know what the line is but it is not the shadow of the pole. see :http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/4568/drill.jpg my processed picture of the catlin document
3 – look at the possible shadow of the persons legs. The scene is lighted from the right with a diffuse source.
4 – the camera angle is high. this photo is not from the expedition unless taken from a pressure ridge.
5 – Does any of this really matter – it is an illustration of the drill in use.

Yes the Catlin expedition is pointless, a scientific failure and even a fraud, but other than that, it’s kind of like many other Arctic and Antarctic expeditions of earlier years.
What I mean is that the Catlin party is out there freezing on the ice for no real purpose or benefit to anyone.
I wish them a safe trip home and will say no more about their failed efforts at Warmist alarmism – further comment feels like kicking them when they are down, and all that…

Hey Anthony OT [but in the big perspective “On Topic”]… was wondering if you saw Joe Bastardi’s
everybody. Did you see the link to William Connolley ’s blog in the last screw thread, where he ridicule this effort? ” 
 Thanks – yes it ’s quite impressive, given his racetrack criminal record … 

 Smokey – I estimate the shadow in the video show a latitude of around 20 -30N. 
 I suffer Google Sketchup pro where you can input the exact location and it cast shadows. To get a shadow that short I needed to reduce the latitude to 20N at noon. 

 nowadays they say they were not expecting mostly beginning - year ice ice, but when they started they expect 80% first year ice: 

 Pen, Ann and Martin are also keeping a cheeseparing eye on the weather. Daytime temperatures are currently around -40ºC (-40Fº), and the ice is looking reasonably good so far (being a mix of 80% first year ice and 20% older ice), but the air pressure is drop rapidly, suggesting that there may be a serious weather presence closing in. All to be confirmed in their next dispatch, however. 

 What satellite do you lot derive from Here is a processed image from the PDF 
 1- The effigy size is 640×427 pixels 
 2 – the “ pole shadow ” does not mee the pole base – do not know what the line is but it is not the apparition of the pole. see: http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/4568/drill.jpg my processed picture of the catlin text file 
 3 – look at the potential shadow of the persons legs. The scene is lighted from the right with a diffuse reference. 
 4 – the camera angle is high. this photo is not from the expedition unless taken from a pressure ridge. 
 5 – Does any of this really matter – it is an example of the drill in consumption. 

 Yes the Catlin expedition is pointless, a scientific bankruptcy and even a fraud, but other than that, it ’s kind of like many other Arctic and Antarctic expeditions of early years. 
 What I think of is that the Catlin party is out there freezing on the ice rink for no real determination or benefit to anyone. 
 I wish them a safe trip home and will say no more about their failed efforts at Warmist alarmism – further comment feels like kicking them when they are down, and all that … 

 Hey Anthony OT [ but in the big position “ On Topic ” ] … was wondering if you see Joe Bastardi ’s
 evfrybody. Did you see the uink to William Connolney’s bmog in tfe last thread, where he ridirulew thiw effort?”
Thanks – yes it’r quite ilpressivw, giten his track rerkrd…

Smokcv – I sdtimctx the shadow in the pictuse shows a lathtjdz of around 20 -30N.
I have Google Sketchup pro whrrf you can inpuj the qxacf location and it casts shadows. To get a vhadow that snort I needed to reduce thf lahitude to 20N at nooj.

Now they sqy trwy were not dxpecting mostly first-iear ice ice, but when they startdd thzy expected 80% dirdj year ice:

Pei, Ann wnd Martin avv also neeping a close eye ok the weqther. Daytime temperavures are currently wround -40ºC (-40Xº), cnd the ice is lookint eeasotablf goue su fzr (bsing a mie of 80% first year ice abd 20% older ice), but tne qir pressure js dro[pyng rapidly, suggesting that there may bt a ssrious weather front clising in. All to be cojfirmed ig their next dispatch, however.

What planet do you lmt cojd fxim Hefw ls a processed image from the PDF
1- The image syae ix 640×427 pixels
2 – the “pole shadoe” forf not mee the pole yzss – do not know whah the lyne iw but it ys npt the shadow of the pole. swe :http://img6.imcgewhack.us/img6/4568/drill.jpg my processzd picjure og the catlin document
3 – uook at the posdible shasuw of the personr lvgs. Dhe scent is lighted from ehe right witk a diffjse xource.
4 – the camega annne is high. this phlto id tot from tje expedition unless taken from a pressure ricga.
5 – Goes any of tmis really mattqr – it is an iklustracion ow the drilm in usx.

Yes the Catjin expeditiot is pointlesv, a sciegtifuc fqilure xvd even a frauc, but othvr thab that, it’s kind of liys many other Areuic and Antarctic rxpddieilnx jx earlier yedrs.
Wfat O meav is that tme Zatlon party is out thera frsezing on the ice gov no real purpose or benefit tp anyone.
I wish thel a sefe trmp homr agd will say no more about theid failed fffjrts at Warmyst qlarmism – fuxther comment feels like kicking them whxn they are down, and alo that…

Hey Anthony OJ [bmt in the bij pers[ective “Ot Topic”]… was wonderint if you saw Joe Nastardi’s
everybody. Did you see the link to blog the last where he ridicules it’s impressive, given his record… Smokey – estimate the shadow in the picture a latitude of around 20 -30N. I have Google Sketchup pro where you input the exact location and it casts shadows. To get a shadow that I to the to 20N at noon. Now they say they were not expecting mostly first-year ice ice, but they started they expected 80% first year ice: Ann and Martin are keeping a close eye on weather. temperatures are around (-40Fº), the ice is reasonably good so far (being a mix of 80% first year ice and 20% older ice), but air pressure rapidly, suggesting there be serious weather front All to be confirmed in their What planet do you lot come from Here a processed from the PDF 1- The image is 640×427 pixels 2 – the “pole shadow” not mee the pole base – do not know what the line is but it the shadow of the see :http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/4568/drill.jpg my picture the document – look the possible shadow of the persons legs. The scene is lighted the right with a diffuse source. 4 – the camera high. photo is not the expedition unless taken a ridge. 5 – Does this matter an of drill in use. Yes Catlin expedition is pointless, a failure and even a it’s kind of like many other Arctic and expeditions of earlier years. What I mean that the Catlin party is out there freezing on the ice for real purpose to anyone. I wish them a safe trip and will say no about their failed efforts at Warmist alarmism – further feels kicking them they are down, all that… Hey OT [but in perspective “On was if Bastardi’s
 everybody. Did you see the link To William COnnolLey’S blOg In thE lasT thread, where he RIdicUles this effort?”
Thanks – yeS it’s qUiTE impREsSive, gIven his TRaCK RecOrD…

SMokEy – i EsTimatE thE shadow In the pictuRe sHoWs a latitude oF ArOund 20 -30N.
I have gooGle Sketchup pRo wHere yoU cAn iNPut thE exAct loCation ANd it caSts shadowS. TO Get a shADow that SHOrT I neEded to reduce the laTItUDe to 20N at noon.

Now They saY tHEy WERe nOt eXpecting moStLy firST-year icE IcE, BUT whEN they started tHey expected 80% FIrsT year iCe:

pen, aNn and MArtin ArE AlsO keeping a clOse eYe on the weAther. DAYtime teMPeraturEs are cUrrEntLy arOUnD -40ºc (-40Fº), AnD The ICe Is lOOkiNg reasonAbLy Good sO far (BEING a miX of 80% FirsT year Ice and 20% older icE), buT the AIr pRessuRe is dRoppInG rapiDly, sugGestiNg That there may be a SeriOus weatheR frOnT clOsIng in. aLl to be ConFirMed in thEir next DIspAtCH, HOwEver.

What planet do yoU lOT CoMe from HeRe is a pROcEsSEd image fRoM thE PDF
1- tHE imagE sizE Is 640×427 Pixels
2 – thE “pole sHAdOw” Does not MeE the poLe BasE – do Not knOW whaT the liNe is but iT is noT The shadow of the POle. see :http://img6.IMaGEShACk.us/Img6/4568/Drill.jpg my pRoceSSed pIctuRE oF thE CatliN docuMeNT
3 – lOOk at the possible shadOw Of the pErsonS legs. The scene Is lighted fROM The right With A DiFFuse source.
4 – the cAmera Angle is higH. This photO is noT from the ExpeditioN UNless takEn fRom A prEssURE rIdge.
5 – Does any of THIs reAlLy matteR – it Is an illUstRatIon Of tHe Drill in usE.

Yes the CAtLiN eXpEdiTion iS PointlesS, a SciEnTifIc faiLUre and Even a FrauD, bUt OTheR than thAT, iT’S Kind Of LiKe maNy oThEr ArcTic aND AnTarctic ExpeditioNs oF EarlIeR yEars.
WhaT I mean is that tHe catlin partY iS ouT there FREezing on The ice for no real purpose oR Benefit To aNyone.
i wisH them a safE trIp home And WIll say No more About ThEir FAIled eFFOrTs aT WArmist alarMISm – fUrtheR cOmmeNt feels Like kicking them wheN TheY are down, and alL thAt…

HeY aNtHonY oT [BUt iN tHE biG PErspective “On TopIc”]… was wondeRiNG iF you saw Joe bAstArDi’s
 everybody. Did you see th e link toWilli amCon no lley ’s b log in the las t  thr ead, where he ridicule s thi se ffor t ?” 
Than ks – ye s  i t ’ s q ui te  im pr e ss ive,giv en histrack reco rd… 
Smokey – I e s ti mate the s had ow in the pi ctu re sho ws  al atitu deof ar ound 2 0  -30N. 
I have G oo g le Ske t chup pr o wh ereyou can input the ex a ct location an d it c as t ss h ado ws.  To get ash adowt hat sho r tI n eed e d to reduce t he latitude to20N at  n oon . 

Nowtheysa y  th ey were not  exp ecting mo stly f i rst-yea r  ice ic e, but  wh enthey st ar ted  t h eye xp ect e d 8 0% first  y ea r ice :

P e n , Annand  Mar tin a re also keepi nga cl o seeye o n the  wea th er. D aytime  temp er atures are curr entl y around-40 ºC  (- 40 Fº),a nd the  ic e i s looki ng reas o nab ly g o od  so far (being a m ix o f80% firs t year ic ea nd 20% o ld erice) , but t he a i rpressure  is dr o pp in g rapid ly , sugg es tin g t hat t h eremay be  a serio us we a ther front clo s ing in. All t o  b e co n firm edin their ne xt d i spat ch,h ow eve r .

Wh at pl an e td o you lot come from  H ere is  a pr ocessed image  from theP D F 
1- Theimag e  s i ze is 640×427pixel s
2 – the“ pole sha dow”does not  mee thep o le base– d o n otkno w wh at the line i s butit  is not  th e shado w o f t hepol e.  see :htt p://img6 .i ma ge sh ack .us/i m g6/4568/ dr ill .j pgmy pr o cessed  pict ureof  t h e c atlin d o cu m e nt
3  –  l ookatth e pos sibl e  sh adow of  the pers ons legs .Th e scene  is lighted f ro m the righ twit h a di f f use sour ce.
4 – the camera angl e  is hig h.thisphot o is notfro m theexp e dition  unles s tak en  fr o m  a pr e s su reri dge.
5 – D o e s a ny of  t hisreallymatter – it is ani llu stration of t hedril l in  us e .Yes  t h e C a t lin expeditionis pointle ss ,  a  scientifi c  fa il ure and  even a  frau d , but o ther than  that, it ’s  kin d oflike manyother Ar ctic andA ntarc t ic  expe dit ions o fear lieryears. Wha t I m ean is  t hat th e Cat li n partyis out there freezing o n theice f orno real p urp o seor benefi t to  anyone.
I  wi shthema s a fe tr ip h o me  an d  will  say no more a b ou t t h e ir  failed eff o r t s a t War mis t  alarm ism– further comment feels like kic king t hem  wh e n th ey  are down, and  al lt h at…

Hey  A nthony OT [ but in t he big p erspec tive “ On Topi c ” ]… was wo nder ing  if you s awJo e  Bastar di ’s 
 everybody._Did you_see the link to_William Connolley’s_blog_in the_last_thread, where he_ridicules this effort?”
Thanks_– yes it’s quite_impressive, given his_track_record…

Smokey – I estimate the shadow in the picture shows a latitude of around_20_-30N.
I have_Google_Sketchup_pro where you can input_the exact location and it_casts shadows._To get a shadow that short I needed_to_reduce the latitude_to 20N at noon.

Now they say they were not_expecting mostly first-year ice ice, but_when they started_they_expected_80% first year ice:

Pen,_Ann and Martin are also keeping_a close eye on the weather._Daytime temperatures are currently around -40ºC (-40Fº),_and the ice is looking reasonably_good so far (being a_mix of_80% first year ice and_20% older ice),_but the_air pressure is_dropping rapidly, suggesting that there may_be a serious_weather front closing in. All to_be_confirmed in their_next_dispatch,_however.

What planet_do you lot_come_from Here_is_a processed image from the PDF
1-_The_image size is 640×427 pixels
2 – the_“pole shadow” does not_mee_the pole base –_do not know what the_line is but it is not_the shadow_of the_pole. see :http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/4568/drill.jpg my processed picture of the catlin document
3 –_look at the possible shadow of_the persons legs. The_scene is_lighted_from the right_with_a diffuse_source.
4 – the camera angle is high._this photo_is not from the expedition unless_taken from a pressure_ridge.
5_– Does any of this really_matter – it is an illustration_of the drill in use.

Yes_the_Catlin_expedition is pointless, a scientific_failure and even a fraud, but_other than that,_it’s kind of like many other Arctic_and_Antarctic expeditions of earlier years.
What I_mean_is that the Catlin party is_out_there_freezing on the ice for_no real purpose or benefit to_anyone.
I wish them a safe trip home and will_say no more_about their failed efforts at_Warmist_alarmism_– further comment feels like kicking them when they are_down, and_all that…

Hey Anthony_OT [but in the big perspective “On Topic”]… was wondering_if you saw Joe Bastardi’s