 charlatan at worst.

These are just my opinions of course and so anyone is entirely free to differ.

As for a sticky, I ask the mods to note that the OP has cheekily contrived to resurrect this topic from 'The far Side' - from whence there should be no return!

Am I the OP here? (whatever is an OP anyway?) If so, many sincere thanks for the high compliment —the cheeky part for sure, but I'm fairly sure it's premature since I really don't think I hauled this thread over from the far side. At least not intentionally.

As to sticky note attention, OK,OK,OK, I'll concede the point. The elicited response is showing a sticky to be superfluous anyway. Yes-s-s!

Now, back to the topic.
Does anyone remember the frequency that the grid was alleged to "vibrate" at? (Hey! die-hard Materialists out there! Didja notice those quotes " " and the italicized words above? Uh? Uh?)

Thanks, Andy to you as well: "Yet with a set of rods I do find lines. To me they are there..." The key word in your whole post was the simple "yet".... This supports my contention that the presumption: The Inexplicable = The Mystical = The Non-Existant is wholly, well, presumptive and at least partially false. There.
I'll let someone else slosh the pot at bit now.

.....This supports my contention that the presumption: The Inexplicable = The Mystical = The Non-Existant is wholly, well, presumptive and at least partially false....

The inexplicable merely = the inexplicable until evidence is provided that renders it no longer inexplicable. That's it really. Hypotheses are fine, of course, and require no evidence, at least initially. But, for them to hang around for any length of time or to be taken in any way seriously to the point where they may be regarded as having progressed to theories, they must be at least amenable to evidence. That is to say, they must be falsifiable. If they are not, then they are basically worthless.

I really don't think I hauled this thread over from the far side. At least not intentionally.

The original thread was in 'Foraging on the Far Side'.
charlatan at worst. 

 These are just my opinions of course and therefore anyone is wholly free to differ. 

 As for a awkward, I necessitate the mods to note that the OP has cheekily contrived to revive this subject from' The far Side' - from whence there should be no return! 

 Am I the OP here? (whatever is an OP anyway ?) If so, many sincere thanks for the gamey compliment — the cheeky part for certain, but I'm fairly sure it's premature since I really don't think I hauled this ribbon over from the far side. At least not intentionally. 

 As to sticky note care, OK, OK, OK, I'll concede the period. The elicited response is show a sticky to be superfluous anyway. Yes - s - s! 

 Now, back to the topic. 
 Does anyone commend the frequency that the grid was alleged to " vibrate " at? (Hey! die - hard Materialists out there! Didja notice those quotes " " and the italicized words above? Uh? Uh ?) 

 Thanks, Andy to you as well: " Yet with a set of rods I do find lines. To me they are there... " The key word in your unharmed post was the simple " however ".... This back my contention that the presumption: The Inexplicable = The Mystical = The Non - Existant is wholly, well, presumptive and at least partially assumed. There. 
 I'll let someone else slosh the pot at bit nowadays. 

..... This supports my contention that the presumption: The Inexplicable = The Mystical = The Non - Existant is wholly, well, presumptive and at least partially false.... 

 The inexplicable merely = the inexplicable until evidence is provided that interpret it no longer inexplicable. That's it really. Hypotheses are fine, of course, and require no evidence, at least initially. But, for them to hang around for any duration of time or to be taken in any way seriously to the point where they may be involve as having progressed to theories, they must be at least amenable to evidence. That is to say, they must be confirmable. If they are not, then they are basically worthless. 

 I actually don't think I hauled this train of thought over from the far side. At least not intentionally. 

 The original thread was in' scrounge on the Far Side'.
 chwrlatan at worst.

These art just my opinions of conrse ans so anyune is entirely free to diffxr.

As for q sticky, I ask the modr to note that thw OP yas cheekily contrlred tk resbrcect this topic from 'The xar Side' - from wfeuce there should be no return!

Am I thq OP hete? (whatever is ag OP wnywzj?) Lf so, many sincere thanks for ths high bompliment —the chreky part for sure, but I'm vairpy sure it's prematkre since I reajoy don't thiny I hauled this thread over from the far side. At leasg not intentionqloy.

Ad to sticky iote antention, OK,OK,OK, I'll cmncede yhe point. The clicived eesponse is showing a sticky to be supetfluous anfwcy. Yes-s-s!

Now, back to tye topiw.
Doev anhine rejekbsr the frxquency thaf the grid qas alleged to "vibrstq" at? (Hey! die-hadd Matqryalists out there! Didja notice those qumtea " " and the italicized qords above? Uh? Uh?)

Thanns, Andy tj you as well: "Yet with a set of rods I do find lites. Tk me tmey xee there..." The key word in your whole post was thq somile "yet".... This suppjrts my conyejtojn that the ptesumptnkn: The Inexplicable = The Myfticao = The Nog-Exixtant is wholly, well, presumptive and at oeast partially fapse. There.
I'lu lej somepne else slosh the pot ct bit now.

.....This suoports my zontention that ghe psesumption: The Inexplicablq = The Mywticcl = The Von-Ecistane is whollj, well, presumptive and ah leadt partially false....

The inexplicable merely = vie inexplicabke unnil evideuce is provided thae renders it np longex inexolicable. Tgat's it really. Hypjtheses are fhje, of course, and reqtire no wvidencd, at least initoally. But, for them ro hang around for ani mength of time ir uo be taken in amy day svripufny to the pohnt dhefr theh may bt rcgafded as having progresseg to theories, they musy ne at leawt amenafle to evidenve. That is to say, uhey mnst be falsofiwble. If they are not, then they are basifaljy worthless.

Y reqlly don't thnnk I hauled this thread over from the fer side. At least not inrentionally.

The orignnsl thread wes in 'Soraging mn the Far Side'.
charlatan at worst. These are just my course so anyone entirely free to I the mods to that the OP cheekily contrived to resurrect this topic 'The far Side' - from whence there should be no return! Am I OP here? (whatever is an OP anyway?) If so, many sincere thanks for high —the part sure, but I'm fairly sure it's premature since I really don't think I hauled this thread from the far side. At least not intentionally. to sticky note attention, I'll concede the point. The response showing a to superfluous Yes-s-s! Now, back the topic. Does anyone remember the frequency that the grid was alleged to "vibrate" at? (Hey! die-hard out there! those quotes " the words above? Uh? Andy to you as well: "Yet of rods I do find lines. To me are there..." key word in your whole post the simple "yet".... This supports my contention that presumption: The Inexplicable = The Mystical = The Non-Existant is wholly, well, presumptive and at false. There. I'll let else slosh the at now. supports contention that presumption: The Inexplicable = The Mystical = The Non-Existant is wholly, presumptive and at least partially false.... The inexplicable merely = until is provided that it no longer inexplicable. it Hypotheses are fine, of require evidence, But, them hang around for any of time or to be in any way seriously may be regarded as having progressed to theories, must be at least amenable to evidence. is to say, they must be falsifiable. If they are not, then are basically really don't think I hauled this thread over the far side. At not intentionally. The original thread was in 'Foraging on Far
 charlatan at worst.

These are jUst my opiniOns of CouRse AnD so aNyonE is entirely freE To diFfer.

As for a sticky, I ask thE mods To NOte tHAt The OP Has cheeKIlY COntRiVeD to ReSUrRect tHis Topic frOm 'The far SiDe' - fRoM whence there SHoUld be no retUrn!

am I the OP here? (WhaTever iS aN OP ANyway?) if sO, many SincerE Thanks For the higH cOMplimeNT —the cheEKY pArt fOr sure, but I'm fairly SUrE It's premature siNce I reAlLY dON'T thInk i hauled thiS tHread OVer from THe FAR SidE. at least not intEntionally.

AS To sTicky nOtE atTEntion, oK,OK,Ok, I'LL coNcede the poiNt. ThE elicited ResponSE is showINg a sticKy to be SupErfLuouS AnYwAy. YEs-S-S!

NoW, BaCk tO The Topic.
DoeS aNyOne reMembER THE freQueNcy tHat thE grid was allegEd tO "vibRAte" At? (Hey! Die-haRd MaTeRialiSts out There! diDja notice those qUoteS " " and the itAliCiZed WoRds abOVe? Uh? Uh?)

thaNks, andy to yOu as welL: "yet WiTH A SeT of rods I do find lineS. TO ME tHey are thEre..." The KEy WoRD in your wHoLe pOst wAS The siMple "YEt".... this suppOrts my COnTeNtion thAt The preSuMptIon: the InEXpliCable = THe MysticAl = The nOn-Existant is whOLly, well, presumPTiVE AnD At leAst Partially faLse. THEre.
I'Ll leT SoMeoNE else Slosh ThE PoT At bit now.

.....This supportS mY conteNtion That the presumPtion: The InEXPLicable = THe MySTiCAl = The Non-ExistaNt is wHolly, well, pREsumptivE and aT least paRtially faLSE....

The inexPliCabLe mEreLY = ThE inexplicable UNTil eViDence is ProVided thAt rEndErs It nO lOnger inexPlicable. thAt'S iT rEalLy. HypOTheses arE fIne, Of CouRse, anD RequirE no evIdenCe, At LEasT initiaLLy. bUT, for ThEm To haNg aRoUnd foR any LEngTh of timE or to be taKen IN any WaY sEriouslY to the point whErE they may be ReGarDed as hAVIng progrEssed to theories, they must BE at leasT amEnablE to eVidence. ThAt iS to say, TheY Must be FalsifIable. if TheY ARe not, THEn TheY aRe basicallY WOrtHless.

i rEallY don't thInk I hauled this threAD ovEr from the far sIde. at leAST nOt iNTeNTioNaLLy.

THE Original thread wAs in 'ForagiNg ON tHe Far Side'.
 charlatan at worst.

Thes e are just  my o pin ion sof c ours e and so anyon e  isentirely free to diffe r.

A sf or a st icky,  I askt he m ods  t onot et ha t the  OP  has ch eekily con tri ve d to resurre c tthis topic  fr om 'The farSid e' - f ro m w h encethe re sh ould b e  no re turn!

Am  I the OP here? ( w h at ever  is an OP anyway? )  I f  so, many sinc ere th an k sf o r t hehigh compl im ent — t he chee k yp a r t f o r sure, but I 'm fairly s u reit's p re mat u re sin ce Ire a lly  don't thin k Ihauled th is thr e ad over from th e farsid e.At l e as tnot  i n ten t io nal l y.
As to s ti ck y not e at t e n t ion,  OK ,OK, OK, I 'll concede t hepoin t . T he el icite d re sp onseis sho wingasticky to be su perf luous any way .Yes -s -s!
N ow, ba cktothe top ic.
Doe s  an yo n e re member the frequen cy t ha t the gr id was al le g ed to "v ib rat e" a t ?  (Hey ! di e -h ard Mate rialis t sou t there !Didjano tic e t hoseq uote s " "and theitali c ized words abo v e? Uh? Uh?)
T ha n k s, Andy  to  you as wel l: " Y et w itha  s eto f rod s I d of in d  lines. To me theyar e ther e..."  The key word  in your w h o l e post w as t h es imple "yet"... . Thi s supports my conte ntion  that th e presump t i on: TheIne xpl ica ble =  T he Mystical = T he N on -Exista ntis whol ly,  we ll,  pr es umptive a nd at le as tpa rt ial ly fa l se. Ther e. 
I' ll  le t som e one el se sl oshth ep otat bitn ow . 
... .. Th is s upp or ts my  con t ent ion tha t the pre sum p tion :Th e Inexp licable = The  M ystical =Th e N on-Exi s t ant is w holly, well, presumptiv e  and at  le ast p arti ally fals e.. ..

Th e i n explic able m erely  =  th e inexp l i ca ble  u ntil evide n c e i s pro vi dedthat re nders it no longer ine xplicable. Th at' s it r ea lly .  H y pot he s esa r e fine, of cour se, and re qu i re  no eviden c e,at  leastinitial ly. B u t, forthem to h ang aroun dfora n y l ength of t ime or t o be take n  in a n yway s eri ouslyto  th e poi nt whe r e t hey m ay bere garded  as h av ing prog ressed to theories, the y must  be a t l east amen abl e  to  evidence . Th at is to s ay,  th ey mu stb e fal sifi a bl e.I f the y ar e  not, the n  t hey a re  basicallyw o r thl ess.
Ir eallydon' t think I hauledt his thread ove r fr o m  th e f a r si de . At least not  in te n t ionally. 
The origina l thread  w a s in'Forag ing on  the Fa r Si d e'.
 charlatan_at worst.

These_are just my opinions_of course_and_so anyone_is_entirely free to_differ.

As for a_sticky, I ask the_mods to note_that_the OP has cheekily contrived to resurrect this topic from 'The far Side' -_from_whence there_should_be_no return!

Am I the OP_here? (whatever is an OP_anyway?) If_so, many sincere thanks for the high compliment_—the_cheeky part for_sure, but I'm fairly sure it's premature since I_really don't think I hauled this_thread over from_the_far_side. At least not_intentionally.

As to sticky note attention, OK,OK,OK,_I'll concede the point. The elicited_response is showing a sticky to be_superfluous anyway. Yes-s-s!

Now, back to the_topic.
Does anyone remember the frequency_that the_grid was alleged to "vibrate"_at? (Hey! die-hard_Materialists out_there! Didja notice_those quotes " " and the_italicized words above?_Uh? Uh?)

Thanks, Andy to you as_well:_"Yet with a_set_of_rods I_do find lines._To_me they_are_there..." The key word in your_whole_post was the simple "yet".... This supports_my contention that the_presumption:_The Inexplicable = The_Mystical = The Non-Existant is_wholly, well, presumptive and at least_partially false._There.
I'll let_someone else slosh the pot at bit now.

.....This supports my contention_that the presumption: The Inexplicable =_The Mystical = The_Non-Existant is_wholly,_well, presumptive and_at_least partially_false....

The inexplicable merely = the inexplicable until_evidence is_provided that renders it no longer_inexplicable. That's it really._Hypotheses_are fine, of course, and require_no evidence, at least initially. But,_for them to hang around_for_any_length of time or to_be taken in any way seriously_to the point_where they may be regarded as having_progressed_to theories, they must be at_least_amenable to evidence. That is to_say,_they_must be falsifiable. If they_are not, then they are basically_worthless.

I really don't think I hauled this thread over_from the far_side. At least not intentionally.

The_original_thread_was in 'Foraging on the Far Side'.