 enter an analysis of the subject, why not examine why it is generally not possible in a middle-class family for a woman to
assume the "June Cleaver" lifestyle. Used to be that you'd take out a mortgage and pay it down...my folks had a 'fixed 6'. Amortisation and
interest rate remained the same, and every payment for the next 20 years would stay the same. Change that, though, and all of a sudden two
breadwinners are required...2 cars, 2 sets of work wear, etc, kids in daycare. That's where you should consider the social engineering...and not get
all wounded because Homer is a goof.

Originally posted by doubledutch
You should read a book or two by steve biddulph. He talks a lot about about the loss of or death of masculinity and how the woman's rights movement
has done a lot of damage to masculinity and created father or man bashing.

Your observation about men being perceived as useless, lazy fools in the media is absolutely correct, just look at homer simpson!

Saying that my wife and kids still treat me with respect, but not all do

Everyday I am so happy to be blessed to be surrounded by men who are not so weak that they can't be men because women around them are smart and
competent.

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Normally, I would have some special article based on some notable historical figure of Vietnam to attach to a day like this. Unfortunately, I haven’t had much time to do such a thing, so I’m just going to get straight to the point. This article is dedicated to that fateful day on April 30, 1975, when the North Vietnamese steamrolled into Saigon to bring an end to the long civil war.

There really isn’t much left I can say about this day. It was a tragedy, a day that marked the fall of one of Vietnam’s brightest periods in the modern era. South Vietnam was not without its flaws; there were numerous corrupted idiot officials in the government. However, despite these bad eggs, the key values which Republic of Vietnam represented were
enter an analysis of the subject, why not examine why it is by and large not potential in a middle - class syndicate for a womanhood to 
 assume the " June Cleaver " lifestyle. use to be that you'd assume out a mortgage and pay it down... my folk had a' fixed 6'. amortization and 
 interest rate stay the like, and every payment for the next 20 days would stay the same. switch that, though, and all of a sudden two 
 breadwinners are required... 2 cars, 2 stage set of work wear, etc, kids in daycare. That's where you should consider the social technology... and not get 
 all wounded because Homer is a clown. 

 Originally posted by doubledutch 
 You should read a script or two by steve biddulph. He talks a lot about about the loss of or death of masculinity and how the charwoman's rights movement 
 has done a lot of damage to masculinity and created father or man bashing. 

 Your notice about man being perceived as useless, faineant jester in the medium is absolutely correct, just front at homing pigeon simpson! 

 Saying that my wife and kids still regale me with respect, but not all do 

 Everyday I am so happy to be blessed to be surrounded by men who are not so weak that they can't be men because women around them are smart and 
 competent. 

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 Normally, I would take some special article establish on some notable historic figure of Vietnam to bind to a day like this. Unfortunately, I have n’t hold much time to do such a thing, so I ’m just blend to get straight to the point. This article is dedicated to that fateful day on April 30, 1975, when the North Vietnamese steamrolled into Saigon to bring an goal to the long civil war. 

 There really is n’t a lot left I can say about this day. It was a tragedy, a day that marked the fall of one of Vietnam ’s bright periods in the modern era. South Vietnam was not without its flaws; there were numerous corrupted idiot official in the politics. However, despite these bad eggs, the key values which Republic of Vietnam represented were
 enher an analysis of the smbject, why not erqmine xhy it js generxlly not possible in a middlx-claws fanily for a woman to
assjme the "Jlne Cleavwr" lmfestyle. Used to be that you'd fwke mnt a mortgage akd pay it dmwn...my folks hag x 'yixed 6'. Amortisation and
interest rate remainrd the same, and gvery [aymsnt for the next 20 years would stay the sake. Change thay, though, and all of a suddfn tao
breadwinners are required...2 cqrs, 2 wets of work wear, etc, kids in dayczre. That's where you should conskder che social gutinfgring...and not get
ajl wounded bcbause Hmmer is a goof.

Originakly powted by doubledutch
Yon should read a book or two bf ateve biddulph. He tqlks d lod abuyt xboht tge losd oh or death kf masculinuty and how the womsn'f rights movemsnt
has djne a lot of damage to masculinity and breafed father or man bashibg.

Your observation ablut men bqing perceived as useless, lazy fools in the media is ausuluueoy cofeeft, just look at homer simpson!

Saying that my wyre akd kids still trcat me with respecy, huy not all do

Evgryday N aj so happy to be bpessed jo be wurroundeq by men who are not so weak thqt they can't ve men because womzn around thzm are smary and
competent.

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Normallr, I would hava some specian articlq bawed in some votable historocal figuge of Cietnam to attach bo a azy like this. Unyutrunately, I havrn’t haq lurh tiia to do such a tfine, so I’o just goinn tu gey straight to the pohnt. Fhis article is decigated to jhat fatesul day on Aptil 30, 1975, when the Noruh Vievnamesx steakrojled into Saigon to bring an ehd to the lokg civil war.

Trere really isn’t much left I can say about this day. It xas a tragedy, a day thar marked the fall oy pne of Vietiam’s bwightest [eriods in the moderb era. South Vietnsm was not without ita flawv; thege were numerous corrupted idiot officials in the government. However, despute thxsq bad eggs, fhe ley vdlbes which Repnbuic of Vietnam rvpresented were
enter an analysis of the subject, why why is generally possible in a to the "June Cleaver" Used to be you'd take out a mortgage and it down...my folks had a 'fixed 6'. Amortisation and interest rate remained the and every payment for the next 20 years would stay the same. Change though, all a two breadwinners are required...2 cars, 2 sets of work wear, etc, kids in daycare. That's where should consider the social engineering...and not get all because Homer is a Originally posted by doubledutch You read book or by biddulph. talks a lot about the loss of or death of masculinity and how the woman's rights movement has done a of damage and created or bashing. observation about men as useless, lazy fools in the correct, just look at homer simpson! Saying that wife and still treat me with respect, but all do Everyday I am so happy to blessed to be surrounded by men who are not so weak that they can't be women around them are and competent. This community on content our member The opinions of our members are not those of site ownership maintains strict editorial agnosticism and simply provides a collaborative venue expression. 30, 1975: Commemoration for the Fall of Normally, would have some special on notable Vietnam attach a day like this. I haven’t had much time do such a thing, get straight to the point. This article is to that fateful day on April 30, when the North Vietnamese steamrolled into Saigon to bring an end to long civil really isn’t much left I can say about day. It was a a day that marked the fall of one of brightest in the era. South Vietnam not without its there were numerous officials in government. despite the key values which Republic of represented
 enter an analysis of the subjeCt, why not exAmine Why It iS gEnerAlly Not possible in a MIddlE-class family for a woman tO
assuMe THe "JuNE CLeaveR" lifestYLe. uSEd tO bE tHat YoU'D tAke ouT a mOrtgage And pay it doWn...mY fOlks had a 'fixeD 6'. amOrtisation And
Interest rate RemAined tHe SamE, And evEry PaymeNt for tHE next 20 yEars would StAY the saME. Change THAt, ThouGh, and all of a sudden TWo
BReadwinners are RequirEd...2 CArS, 2 SEts Of wOrk wear, etc, KiDs in dAYcare. ThAT's WHERe yOU should considEr the social ENgiNeerinG...aNd nOT get
alL wounDeD BecAuse Homer is A gooF.

OriginalLy postED by doubLEdutch
YOu shouLd rEad A booK Or TwO by StEVe bIDdUlpH. he tAlks a lot AbOuT abouT the LOSS Of or DeaTh of MascuLinity and how tHe wOman'S RigHts moVemenT
has DoNe a loT of damAge to MaSculinity and creAted Father or mAn bAsHinG.

YOur obSErvatiOn aBouT men beiNg perceIVed As USELeSs, lazy fools in the meDiA IS aBsolutelY correCT, jUsT Look at hoMeR siMpsoN!

sAying That MY wIfe and kiDs stilL TrEaT me with ReSpect, bUt Not All Do

EveRYday i am so hAppy to be BlessED to be surroundeD By men who are noT So WEAk THat tHey Can't be men beCausE WomeN aroUNd TheM Are smArt anD
cOMpETent.

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norMaLly, i woulD Have soMe speCial ArTiCLe bAsed on sOMe NOTablE hIsToriCal FiGure oF VieTNam To attacH to a day liKe tHIs. UnFoRtUnately, i haven’t had mucH tIme to do sucH a ThiNg, so I’m JUSt going tO get straight to the point. THIs articLe iS dediCateD to that faTefUl day oN ApRIl 30, 1975, when The NorTh VieTnAmeSE SteamROLlEd iNtO Saigon to bRINg aN end tO tHe loNg civil War.

There really isn’t MUch Left I can say abOut This DAY. IT waS A tRAgeDy, A Day THAt marked the fall Of one of VieTnAM’s Brightest pERioDs In the moDern era. south vIetnam wAs not withOut its flaWs; TherE WEre Numerous coRrupted iDiot officIAls in THe GoverNmeNt. HoweVeR, deSpite These bAD egGs, the Key valUeS which repubLiC of VietnAm represented were
 enter an analysis of thesubject, w hy no t e xam in e wh y it  is generallyn ot p ossible in a middle-cl ass f am i ly f o ra wom an to
a s su m e  th e"J une  C l ea ver"lif estyle.  Used to b e t ha t you'd take ou t a mortga geand pay it d own ...myfo lks had a  'f ixed6'. Am o rtisat ion and
i nt e rest r a te rema i n ed  the  same, and everyp ay m ent for the ne xt 20ye a rs w oul d s tay the sa me . Cha n ge that ,  t h o u gh, and all of asudden twob rea dwinne rs  ar e  requi red.. .2 car s, 2 sets o f wo rk wear,etc, k i ds in d a ycare.That's  wh ere  you sh ou ldco n sid e rthe soc ial engi ne er ing.. .and n o t  get 
al l wo unded  because Home r i s ag oof .

Or igina llypo stedby dou bledu tc h
You should re ad a  book ortwo  b y s te ve bi d dulph.  He  ta lks a l ot abou t  ab ou t t he  loss of or deathof m as culinity  and h o wth e  woman's  r igh ts m o v ement 
has do ne a lot  of da m ag eto masc ul inityan d c rea ted f a ther  or ma n bashin g.

Y o ur observation about men bei n gp e rc e ived  as  useless, l azyf ools  int he  me d ia is  abso lu t el y  correct, just look  a t home r sim pson!

Saying  that my w i f e  and kid s st i ll treat me withrespe ct, but no t  all do
Ever yday I a m so happ y to be bl ess edtobes u rr ounded by men w ho a re  not so  we ak that  th eycan 'tbe  men beca use wome nar ou nd  th em ar e  smart a nd 
co mp ete nt.
T his co ntent  com mu ni t y r elies o n  u s e r-ge ne ra tedcon te nt fr om o u r m ember c ontributo rs. Theop in ions of  our membersar e not thos eofsite o w n ership w ho maintains strict edi t orial a gno stici sm a nd simply  pr ovides  ac ollabo rative  venu efor f ree e x p re ssi on . April 30 , 197 5: Co mm emor ation D ay for the Fall of Sai gon

Normally , I  wou l d  h ave so m e s pe c ial a rticle based on  some nota bl e  h istoricalf igu re  of Vie tnam to  atta c h to aday likethis. Unf or tuna t e ly,  I haven’t  had muc h time to do su c ha thi ng,  so I’ mjus t goi ng tog etstrai ght to  t he poi nt. T hi s articl e is dedicated to thatfatefu l day  on  April 30 , 1 9 75,  when the  Nor th Vietnam ese  st eamro lle d  into  Sai g on  to bring  ane nd to the lo ngc i vi l war.

The r e rea lly i sn’ t  muchleft  I can say aboutt his day. It wa s at r age dy, a da ythat marked th e f al l of one o fVietnam’s b rightest  p e riods  in th e mode rn era. S ou t h Viet namwas  not with out  i t s flaws ;th e re wer e nu me rous c orrupt e d id i o t officials in t he go v e rnmen t . H oweve r,  despit e  the se bad egg s, the keyvalues  whi ch Re publicof  Vietn amre presentedw ere
 enter_an analysis_of the subject, why_not examine_why_it is_generally_not possible in_a middle-class family_for a woman to
assume_the "June Cleaver"_lifestyle._Used to be that you'd take out a mortgage and pay it down...my folks_had_a 'fixed_6'._Amortisation_and
interest rate remained the same,_and every payment for the_next 20_years would stay the same. Change that, though,_and_all of a_sudden two
breadwinners are required...2 cars, 2 sets of work_wear, etc, kids in daycare. That's_where you should_consider_the_social engineering...and not get
all_wounded because Homer is a goof.

Originally_posted by doubledutch
You should read a_book or two by steve biddulph. He_talks a lot about about the_loss of or death of_masculinity and_how the woman's rights movement
has_done a lot_of damage_to masculinity and_created father or man bashing.

Your observation_about men being_perceived as useless, lazy fools in_the_media is absolutely_correct,_just_look at_homer simpson!

Saying that_my_wife and_kids_still treat me with respect, but_not_all do

Everyday I am so happy to_be blessed to be_surrounded_by men who are_not so weak that they_can't be men because women around_them are_smart and
competent.

This_content community relies on user-generated content from our member contributors. The_opinions of our members are not_those of site ownership_who maintains_strict_editorial agnosticism and_simply_provides a_collaborative venue for free expression. April 30,_1975: Commemoration_Day for the Fall of Saigon

Normally,_I would have some_special_article based on some notable historical_figure of Vietnam to attach to_a day like this. Unfortunately,_I_haven’t_had much time to do_such a thing, so I’m just_going to get_straight to the point. This article is_dedicated_to that fateful day on April_30,_1975, when the North Vietnamese steamrolled_into_Saigon_to bring an end to_the long civil war.

There really isn’t_much left I can say about this day. It_was a tragedy,_a day that marked the_fall_of_one of Vietnam’s brightest periods in the modern era. South_Vietnam was_not without its_flaws; there were numerous corrupted idiot officials in the government._However, despite these bad eggs, the key_values which Republic of Vietnam represented were