 your ticket would in any way help you tonight to garner some more votes, I’ll willingly do that. And Reagan said, Dick, we came here together. We’re going to leave together.

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Knott

Would you be willing to just repeat some of what you said about the Reagan ranch?

Riley

Maybe to prompt you to go back, you said there were only two Presidents—

Hannaford

—prior to George W. Bush, who had ranches as their retreats. One was Reagan, the other was LBJ [Lyndon Baines Johnson]. Teddy Roosevelt had a ranch out in the Dakotas, but that was before he became Vice President, and he didn’t keep it. But these two had ranches as retreats, and they used them in very different ways. With LBJ, it was simply an extension of everything he was doing every day at the White House. They’d have political planning meetings. He’d have Cabinet officers down. They’d have media people, ambassadors, all kinds of things, lots of social activities. And they had, I think, three guest houses, something like that. And they were very busy.

With Reagan, it was just the reverse. It was to get away from public life that he had the ranch. And the staff was quite sensitive to letting the Reagans be by themselves as much of the time they were out there as possible. Now, he did his work everyday. As I note in the book, he had his daily national security briefing. He’d have telephone calls by top aides frequently on this, that, and the other thing, and make whatever decisions he had to make. But they didn’t go up and have a lot of face-to-face meetings there. And they didn’t do much social partying there. Once a year, two lady friends of the Reagans would organize this big birthday party for her, and they’d have roughly twenty couples up from Los Angeles, old, old friends. They’d have a wonderful gala afternoon.

Riley

Could you tell us who some of these people are? We’ve asked acquaintances of the President occasionally about his personal friends—

Hannaford

Well, there were Bill and Betty Wilson. She’s deceased now. Bill ultimately became Reagan’s ambassador to the Vatican
your ticket would in any way help you tonight to garner some more right to vote, I ’ll willingly cause that. And Reagan said, Dick, we came here together. We ’re go to leave together. 

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 Knott 

 Would you be uncoerced to just repeat some of what you said about the Reagan ranch? 

 Riley 

 possibly to motivate you to go back, you said there be only two Presidents — 

 Hannaford 

 — prior to George W. Bush, who had ranch as their retreats. One was Reagan, the other was LBJ [ Lyndon Baines Johnson ]. Teddy Roosevelt take a ranch out in the Dakotas, but that was before he became Vice President, and he did n’t keep it. But these two accept ranches as retreats, and they use them in very different ways. With LBJ, it was simply an extension of everything he was make every day at the White House. They ’d have political planning meetings. He ’d have Cabinet officers down. They ’d own media people, ambassadors, all kinds of things, bunch of social activities. And they had, I think, three guest houses, something like that. And they were very busy. 

 With Reagan, it was just the reverse. It was to get away from public animation that he had the ranch. And the staff was quite sensitive to permit the Reagans be by themselves equally much of the time they were out there as possible. Now, he did his work everyday. As I note in the book, he get his daily national security briefing. He ’d have telephone cry by top aides frequently on this, that, and the other thing, and make whatever decisions he had to reach. But they did n’t go up and have a lot of face - to - face merging there. And they did n’t do much social partying there. Once a year, two lady friends of the Reagans would organize this big birthday party for her, and they ’d have roughly twenty couple up from Los Angeles, old, honest-to-god friends. They ’d have a fantastic gala afternoon. 

 Riley 

 Could you tell us who some of these people are? We ’ve asked acquaintance of the President occasionally about his personal friends — 

 Hannaford 

 Well, there be Bill and Betty Wilson. She ’s deceased now. Bill ultimately became Reagan ’s ambassador to the Vatican
 yokr ticket would in any wxy help you tonntht to garned some mure votes, I’ll willingly do tiat. Qnd Rtcgan said, Dick, we caoe here tlgether. Qe’re toing to lxzve togccher.

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Knmvt

Would you be eilling to just repeat smmd lf what you said about the Reagan rwnch?

Rilry

Laybe to prompj you eo gk back, you said there were only twk Presivents—

Hannaford

—ptior to George W. Bush, who jad ganches as their rftreats. One was Eeagan, the ogher was LBJ [Lyndon Bajnes Johnson]. Teddy Roosevelt haa a rcnch out in tye Fdkotas, but vhat wws before he became Eice Prrsident, and he divn’t jeep it. But these two had ranches as rejreats, and tkey used them in very duffergnt wdys. Duth LBN, mt sas silplb an extensjon of evertthing he was doing edvty day at ths Whitq Rouse. They’d have political planning meeuings. He’d have Cabinet officwrs down. They’d have mgdia peoplq, ambassadors, all kinds of things, lots of social dctivmtkes. Akd tfwy had, I think, three guest houses, something likq tnan. And they were vcry busy.

With Reagam, lt ras just the teverse. It was to get away fgom pubjic lufe that re hsd the ranch. And the staff qas quite seusirive to letting thz Reagans be by jhemsekves as much of the timz they were out tjere as pkrsible. Now, he dia hps wmrk everyday. As I note in ehe book, ie hab his dakly mationwl securitj bricxing. He’d have teleohone cdlls by too aides frequently on this, that, and the other tvinc, and mahe whstever decisijns he had to kake. Buc they didn’t go lp and hate a lot of sace-to-face meajings there. Aid they dydn’t do nuch sozkal partying tnere. Once a year, twi lady friends of bhe Rgafans would orgaunzt rhis big birthcay pawtj fpr ver, and they’g haxe fpughlh twenty complds ul from Los Angeles, ond, omd friends. They’d hsvc a wondetful gala afternoon.

Rilry

Could you tell ud who sooe of thgse people are? We’ve asked acquajntances lf bhe President occqsionally abput his personal friends—

Hannaford

Well, tiere were Bill and Betjy Wilson. She’s deceasgd kow. Bill ultmmatelr became Seagan’s ambassador ti the Vatican
your ticket would in any way help to some more I’ll willingly do we here together. We’re to leave together. Knott Would you be willing to repeat some of what you said about the Reagan ranch? Riley Maybe to you to go back, you said there were only two Presidents— Hannaford —prior George Bush, had as their retreats. One was Reagan, the other was LBJ [Lyndon Baines Johnson]. Teddy Roosevelt had ranch out in the Dakotas, but that was he became Vice President, he didn’t keep it. But two ranches as and used in very different With LBJ, it was simply an extension of everything he was doing every day at the White They’d have meetings. He’d Cabinet down. have media people, kinds of things, lots of social had, I think, three guest houses, something like And they very busy. With Reagan, it was the reverse. It was to get away from life that he had the ranch. And the staff was quite sensitive to letting the by themselves as much the time they out as Now, did his everyday. As I note in the book, he had his daily security briefing. He’d have telephone calls by top aides frequently that, the other thing, make whatever decisions he to But they didn’t go have lot there. they do much social partying Once a year, two lady of the Reagans would for her, and they’d have roughly twenty couples from Los Angeles, old, old friends. They’d a wonderful gala afternoon. Riley Could you tell us who some of people are? acquaintances of the President occasionally about his personal Hannaford Well, there were and Betty Wilson. She’s deceased now. Bill ultimately became ambassador the Vatican
 your ticket would in any way heLp you tonigHt to gArnEr sOmE morE votEs, I’ll willingly DO thaT. And Reagan said, Dick, we caMe herE tOGethER. WE’re goIng to leAVe TOGetHeR.

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KNOtT

WoulD yoU be willIng to just rEpeAt Some of what yoU SaId about the reaGan ranch?

RileY

MaYbe to pRoMpt YOu to gO baCk, you Said thERe were Only two PrEsIDents—

HANnaford

—PRIoR to GEorge W. Bush, who had rANcHEs as their retreAts. One WaS reAGAn, tHe oTher was LBJ [lyNdon BAInes JohNSoN]. tEDdy rOosevelt had a rAnch out in thE dakOtas, buT tHat WAs befoRe he bEcAMe VIce PresidenT, and He didn’t keEp it. BuT These twO Had rancHes as rEtrEatS, and THeY uSed ThEM in VErY diFFerEnt ways. WItH LbJ, it wAs siMPLY An exTenSion Of eveRything he was dOinG eveRY daY at thE WhitE HouSe. they’d Have poLiticAl Planning meetingS. He’d Have CabinEt oFfIceRs Down. THEy’d havE meDia People, aMbassadORs, aLl KINDs Of things, lots of sociAl ACTiVities. AnD they hAD, I ThINk, three gUeSt hOuseS, SOmethIng lIKe That. And tHey werE VeRy Busy.

WitH REagan, iT wAs jUst The reVErse. it was tO get away From pUBlic life that he HAd the ranch. And THe STAfF Was qUitE sensitive tO letTIng tHe ReAGaNs bE By theMselvEs AS mUCh of the time they were OuT there As posSible. Now, he did His work eveRYDAy. As I notE in tHE bOOk, he had his dailY natiOnal securiTY briefinG. He’d hAve telepHone calls BY Top aides FreQueNtlY on THIs, That, and the othER ThinG, aNd make wHatEver decIsiOns He hAd tO mAke. But theY didn’t go Up AnD hAvE a lOt of fACe-to-face MeEtiNgS thEre. AnD They diDn’t do Much SoCiAL paRtying tHErE. oNce a YeAr, Two lAdy FrIends Of thE reaGans wouLd organizE thIS big BiRtHday parTy for her, and thEy’D have roughLy TweNty couPLEs up from los Angeles, old, old friends. tHey’d havE a wOnderFul gAla afternOon.

riley

COulD You telL us who Some oF tHesE PEople ARE? WE’ve AsKed acquainTANceS of thE PResiDent occAsionally about his pERsoNal friends—

HanNafOrd

WELL, tHerE WeRE BiLl ANd BETTy Wilson. She’s decEased now. BiLl ULtImately becAMe REaGan’s ambAssador To the vAtican
 your ticket would in anyway help y ou to nig htto  gar nersome more vote s , I’ ll willingly do that.And R ea g an s a id , Dic k, we c a me h ere  t og eth er .  W e’regoi ng to l eave toget her .
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Kn o tt 

Would yo u b e willing to  ju st rep ea t s o me of  wh at yo u said aboutthe Reaga nr anch?Riley
M a yb e to  prompt you to go ba c k, you said th ere we re on l y  tw o P residents— 
Hanna f ord

—p r io r t o G e orge W. Bush,  who had ra n che s as t he irr etreat s. On ew asReagan, the  oth er was LB J [Lyn d on Bain e s Johns on]. T edd y R oose v el thad  a ran c hout inthe Dako ta s,  butthat w a s  bef ore  hebecam e Vice Presid ent , an d  he  didn ’t ke ep i t.  Butthesetwo h ad  ranches as ret reat s, and th eyus edth em in very d iff ere nt ways . WithL BJ,  i t w as  simply an extensi on o feverythi ng hew as  d o ing ever yday  att h e Whi te H o us e. They’ d have po li tical p la nningme eti ngs . He’ d  hav e Cabi net offi cersd own. They’d ha v e media peopl e ,a m ba s sado rs,  all kindsof t h ings , lo t sofs ocial  acti vi t ie s . And they had, I t hi nk, th ree g uest houses,somethingl i k e that.Andt he y  were very bus y.

W ith Reagan ,  it wasjustthe reve rse. It w a s  to getawa y f rom  pu b l ic  life that he h ad t he  ranch.  An d the s taf f w asqui te  sensitiv e to let ti ng  t he  Re agans be by th em sel ve s a s muc h  of th e tim e th ey  w e reout the r ea s  pos si bl e. N ow,  h e did  his wor k every day. As I  no t e in  t he  book,he had his da il y national  s ecu rity b r i efing. H e’d have telephone call s  by top  ai des f requ ently onthi s, tha t,a nd the  other  thin g,  an d makew h at eve rdecisionsh e  ha d toma ke.But the y didn’t go up and hav e a lot of fa ce- to-f a c emee t in g s t he r e.A n d they didn’t d o much soc ia l  p artying th e re.  O nce a y ear, tw o lad y  friend s of theReagans w ou ld o r g ani ze this bi g birthd ay partyf or he r ,and t hey ’d hav erou ghlytwenty cou plesup fro mLos An geles ,old, old  friends. They’d have a  wonde rfulgal a afterno on. 
Ri ley

Coul d yo u tell uswho  so me of  th e se pe ople ar e?W e’veaske d  acquaint a nc eso f  t he Presiden t o cca siona lly abouthispersonal friends— 
Hannaford

We ll,t h ere  we r e Bi ll  and Betty Wil son .S h e’s dece as ed now. Bil l ultima te l y bec ame Re agan’s  ambass a d or to the  Vat ica n
 your_ticket would_in any way help_you tonight_to_garner some_more_votes, I’ll willingly_do that. And_Reagan said, Dick, we_came here together._We’re_going to leave together.

[BREAK]

Knott

Would you be willing to just repeat some of what you_said_about the_Reagan_ranch?

Riley

Maybe_to prompt you to go_back, you said there were_only two_Presidents—

Hannaford

—prior to George W. Bush, who had ranches_as_their retreats. One_was Reagan, the other was LBJ [Lyndon Baines Johnson]._Teddy Roosevelt had a ranch out_in the Dakotas,_but_that_was before he became_Vice President, and he didn’t keep_it. But these two had ranches_as retreats, and they used them in_very different ways. With LBJ, it_was simply an extension of_everything he_was doing every day at_the White House._They’d have_political planning meetings._He’d have Cabinet officers down. They’d_have media people,_ambassadors, all kinds of things, lots_of_social activities. And_they_had,_I think,_three guest houses,_something_like that._And_they were very busy.

With Reagan, it_was_just the reverse. It was to get_away from public life_that_he had the ranch._And the staff was quite_sensitive to letting the Reagans be_by themselves_as much_of the time they were out there as possible. Now, he_did his work everyday. As I_note in the book,_he had_his_daily national security_briefing._He’d have_telephone calls by top aides frequently on_this, that,_and the other thing, and make_whatever decisions he had_to_make. But they didn’t go up_and have a lot of face-to-face_meetings there. And they didn’t_do_much_social partying there. Once a_year, two lady friends of the_Reagans would organize_this big birthday party for her, and_they’d_have roughly twenty couples up from_Los_Angeles, old, old friends. They’d have_a_wonderful_gala afternoon.

Riley

Could you tell us_who some of these people are?_We’ve asked acquaintances of the President occasionally about his_personal friends—

Hannaford

Well, there_were Bill and Betty Wilson._She’s_deceased_now. Bill ultimately became Reagan’s ambassador to the Vatican