. did they not ask for captains mast? i did not hear that they had asked for courts martial. i'll have to go do my own reading :-D

you are correct.

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he chose to push the matter to the next step, the “special court martial,” which all three now face unless Cleveland changes his mind or a higher-level commander intervenes

so much the better.

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.....The greatest changes occur in their country without their cooperation. They are not even aware of precisely what has taken place. They suspect it; they have heard of the event by chance. More than that, they are unconcerned with the fortunes of their village, the safety of their streets, the fate of their church and its vestry. They think that such things have nothing to do with them, that they belong to a powerful stranger called “the government.” They enjoy these goods as tenants, without a sense of ownership, and never give a thought to how they might be improved.....

.....The greatest changes occur in their country without their cooperation. They are not even aware of precisely what has taken place. They suspect it; they have heard of the event by chance. More than that, they are unconcerned with the fortunes of their village, the safety of their streets, the fate of their church and its vestry. They think that such things have nothing to do with them, that they belong to a powerful stranger called “the government.” They enjoy these goods as tenants, without a sense of ownership, and never give a thought to how they might be improved.....

.....The greatest changes occur in their country without their cooperation. They are not even aware of precisely what has taken place. They suspect it; they have heard of the event by chance. More than that, they are unconcerned with the fortunes of their village, the safety of their streets, the fate of their church and its vestry. They think that such things have nothing to do with them, that they belong to a powerful stranger called “the government.” They enjoy these goods as tenants, without a sense of ownership, and never give a thought to how they might be improved.....

2. You said this could have been handled at the command level. The SEALs themselves refused that.

3. (not as much as an error but a question) Where did this quote come from: "he chose to push the matter to the next step, the “special court martial,” which
. did they not ask for captains mast? i did not hear that they had asked for court soldierly. i'll have to go do my own recitation :-D 

 you are correct. 

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 he chose to press the topic to the next step, the “ special court martial, ” which all three now font unless Cleveland changes his mind or a gamey - horizontal surface commander intervenes 

 therefore much the better. 

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..... The greatest changes occur in their area without their cooperation. They are not even aware of precisely what has taken place. They distrust it; they have heard of the consequence by chance. More than that, they are unconcerned with the fortunes of their village, the safety of their street, the fate of their church and its vestry. They think that such things have nothing to serve with them, that they belong to a powerful stranger called “ the government. ” They enjoy these goods as tenants, without a sense of ownership, and never give a idea to how they might be improved..... 

..... The greatest change happen in their area without their cooperation. They are not even aware of precisely what has taken place. They suspect it; they have heard of the event by chance. More than that, they are unconcerned with the luck of their village, the safety of their streets, the fate of their church and its vestry. They think that such thing have nothing to do with them, that they belong to a powerful stranger called “ the government. ” They love these goods as tenants, without a sense of ownership, and never give a opinion to how they might be improved..... 

..... The greatest changes happen in their country without their cooperation. They are not even mindful of precisely what has taken place. They suspect it; they have heard of the event by luck. More than that, they are unconcerned with the fortunes of their village, the guard of their streets, the destiny of their church and its vestry. They remember that such things receive nothing to do with them, that they belong to a powerful stranger called “ the government. ” They delight these goods as tenants, without a sense of ownership, and never give a thought to how they might be improved..... 

 2. You said this could have been handled at the instruction level. The SEALs themselves resist that. 

 3. (not as much as an error but a question) Where did this quote come from: " he chose to push the matter to the future step, the “ special court martial, ” which
. dif they not ask for captalns mast? i did not hear that fhey had asked for courts martial. i'lp yave uj go do my own reaaing :-D

you are coreect.

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he chose to push the lattzr to the next sjep, the “spechal court marthau,” chich all three now face unless Clevqland cnajges his mind jr a righsg-ltvel commander intervenes

so much fhe betuer.

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.....The greatrst changes occur in their coujtry without their cooperatiob. Thqt are not evdn aware of precisely shat has taken place. They suspezt it; they have hwarf of the eveit by bhance. More tmsn thad, they sre unconcernec wmth rhe fortunes of their village, the safeti of their screets, the fate of thwie chutch atd igw vdstdy. Tgey thlnk that such things havw nothing to do witn eyem, that they belond eo a powerful stranger called “the govertmeht.” They enjoy these gooes as tenants, without a sense jf ownership, and never give a thought to how they mighv ce nnprovde.....

.....Tje greatest changes occur in their country wiegoit their cooperabion. They are not rvfn wware of precksely cgaf has taken place. Hhey sufpect it; they rave heard of the event by chanxe. More than rhat, they are uncoucerned with the fortines of their village, tke safsty of theig streets, ghe fate of theif cmurwh and iur vestry. They thigk that snch tkings haxe npthing to do witj them, that they belong ho a kowerfgl strangeg called “the government.” They enopy these goocs as tenants, withput a sense os ownership, anb never yive a thought tk how tiey might be improved.....

.....The cteatest changxs occur yn tyeir countrh without their cooperatpou. They arw not even aware on prezjsely what has ccktn place. They suxpezt yt; tiey hwee heard of dhe dvevy by zhance. More ghan that, they are unconwernsd with the fortunrs of theit village, the safety og their streets, tht fate of theit crurch and its vestry. They thini that sufh bhings have njthikg tj do with chem, that they belong to a powerful straiger called “the governmwnt.” They enjoy thesg gpods as tenents, wythout a vense of ownership, abd never give a tmought to how they miggt be hmproged.....

2. You said this could have been handled at the command level. The SEALs rhemselves refused thay.

3. (not af much ws ai xrror but a questpon) Where did this quote come frum: "he chmsz to push the matter to the nrxg step, the “spgcial court martial,” which
. did they not ask for captains did hear that had asked for go my own reading you are correct. he chose to push the matter the next step, the “special court martial,” which all three now face unless changes his mind or a higher-level commander intervenes so much the better. Logged greatest occur their without their cooperation. They are not even aware of precisely what has taken place. They suspect they have heard of the event by chance. than that, they are with the fortunes of their the of their the of church and its They think that such things have nothing to do with them, that they belong to a powerful called “the enjoy these as without sense of ownership, give a thought to how they .....The greatest changes occur in their country without cooperation. They not even aware of precisely what taken place. They suspect it; they have heard the event by chance. More than that, they are unconcerned with the fortunes of their safety of their streets, fate of their and vestry. think such things nothing to do with them, that they belong to a powerful called “the government.” They enjoy these goods as tenants, without of and never give thought to how they be .....The greatest changes occur country their not aware precisely what has taken They suspect it; they have of the event by are unconcerned with the fortunes of their village, safety of their streets, the fate of church and its vestry. They think that such things have nothing to with them, belong to a powerful stranger called “the government.” enjoy these goods as without a sense of ownership, and never give a to they might improved..... 2. You this could have handled at the The SEALs refused 3. as an error but a question) did quote come from: "he chose push to the next step, the “special court martial,” which
. did they not ask for captains mAst? i did not Hear tHat TheY hAd asKed fOr courts martiaL. I'll hAve to go do my own reading :-D

You arE cORrecT.

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he Chose to PUsH THe mAtTeR to ThE NeXt steP, thE “speciaL court martIal,” WhIch all three nOW fAce unless CLevEland changes His Mind or A hIghER-leveL coMmandEr inteRVenes

sO much the bEtTEr.

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.....The greATEsT chaNges occur in their cOUnTRy without their CooperAtIOn. tHEy aRe nOt even awarE oF precISely whaT HaS TAKen PLace. They suspeCt it; they havE HeaRd of thE eVenT By chanCe. MorE tHAn tHat, they are uNconCerned witH the foRTunes of THeir vilLage, thE saFetY of tHEiR sTreEtS, The FAtE of THeiR church aNd ItS vestRy. ThEY THInk tHat Such ThingS have nothing tO do With THem, That tHey beLong To A poweRful stRangeR cAlled “the governmEnt.” THey enjoy tHesE gOodS aS tenaNTs, withOut A seNse of owNership, ANd nEvER GIvE a thought to how they MiGHT bE improveD.....

.....The grEAtEsT Changes oCcUr iN theIR CountRy wiTHoUt their cOoperaTIoN. THey are nOt Even awArE of PreCiselY What Has takEn place. THey suSPect it; they have HEard of the evenT By CHAnCE. MorE thAn that, they aRe unCOnceRned WItH thE FortuNes of ThEIr VIllage, the safety of thEiR streeTs, the Fate of their chUrch and its VESTry. They tHink THaT Such things have NothiNg to do with THem, that tHey beLong to a pOwerful stRANger callEd “tHe gOveRnmENT.” THey enjoy these GOOds aS tEnants, wIthOut a senSe oF owNerShiP, aNd never giVe a thougHt To HoW tHey Might BE improveD.....

.....THe gReAteSt chaNGes occUr in tHeir CoUnTRy wIthout tHEiR COopeRaTiOn. ThEy aRe Not evEn awARe oF precisEly what haS taKEn plAcE. THey suspEct it; they have HeArd of the evEnT by Chance. mORe than thAt, they are unconcerned witH The fortUneS of thEir vIllage, the SafEty of tHeiR StreetS, the faTe of tHeIr cHURch anD ITs VesTrY. They think THAt sUch thInGs haVe nothiNg to do with them, that THey Belong to a poweRfuL strANGeR caLLeD “The GoVErnMENt.” They enjoy thesE goods as teNaNTs, Without a seNSe oF oWnershiP, and nevEr givE A thoughT to how theY might be iMpRoveD.....

2. yOu sAid this couLd have beEn handled AT the cOMmAnd leVel. the SEAls TheMselvEs refuSEd tHat.

3. (noT as mucH aS an errOr but A qUestion) WHere did this quote come froM: "he choSe to pUsh The matter To tHE neXt step, the “SpecIal court maRtiAl,” wHich
. did they not ask for cap tains mast ? i d idnot  h earthat  they had aske d  for  courts martial. i'llhaveto go d o  m y own  readin g  : - D 

y ou  a reco r re ct.
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hechose to p ush  t he matter to th e next ste p,the “special  co urt ma rt ial , ” whi chall t hree n o w face  unless C le v elandc hangesh i smind  or a higher-leve l  c o mmander interv enes
so mu c h  th e b etter.

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. . ...Theg re a t e stc hanges occurin their co u ntr y with ou t t h eir co opera ti o n.They are no t ev en awareof pre c isely w h at hastakenpla ce.  The y  s us pec ti t;t he y h a veheard of  t he  even t by c h a nce.  Mo re t han t hat, they are  un conc e rne d wit h the  for tu nes o f thei r vil la ge, the safetyof t heir stre ets ,the  f ate o f  their  ch urc h and i ts vest r y.Th e y th ink that such thin gs h av e nothin g to d o  w it h  them, t ha t t heyb e longto a po werful s trange r  c al led “th egovern me nt. ” T hey e n joythesegoods as  tena n ts, without as ense of owner s hi p ,  a n d ne ver  give a tho ught to h ow t h ey  mi g ht be  impr ov e d. . ...

.....The great es t chan ges o ccur in their  country w i t h out thei r co o pe r ation. They ar e not  even awar e  of prec isely  what ha s taken p l a ce. They  su spe ctit; t he y have heardo f  the  e vent by  ch ance. M ore  th antha t,  they are  unconce rn ed  w it h t he fo r tunes of  t hei rvil lage, the sa fetyof t he ir str eets, t h ef a te o fth eirchu rc h and  its ves try. Th ey thinktha t  suc hth ings ha ve nothing to  d o with the m,  th at the y belong t o a powerful stranger c a lled “t hegover nmen t.” Theyenj oy the seg oods a s tena nts,wi tho u t  a se n s eofow nership, a n d  ne ver g iv e athought  to how they might beimproved..... 

. .... T h egre a te s t c ha n ges o ccur in their c ountry wit ho u ttheir coop e rat io n. They  are no t eve n  awareof precis ely whatha s ta k e n p lace. They  suspect  it; they haveh ea rd of  th e even tbychanc e. Mor e  th an th at, th ey  are u nconc er ned with  the fortunes of theirvillag e, th e s afety ofthe i r s treets, t he f ate of the irchu rch a ndi ts ve stry .  T hey think  tha t  such thi n gs  ha v e  n othing to d o w ith  them , t h at the y be long to a powerfu l  stranger call ed “ t h e g ove r nmen t. ” They enjoy t hes eg o ods as t en ants, witho ut a sen se of ow nershi p, and  neverg i ve a thou ghttohow theymig ht be impr ov ed . ....
2. Y ou  saidthis c o uldh a ve been handledat th e comma n d l evel.  T he SEAL s  the mselves re fused that. 

3. ( notas mu ch as a nerrorbut  a  question) Where did  this  quoteco me f rom : "hechos e to pu sh t he  ma tter to t h e  n e xt  s t ep,  the  “spe ci al c ourt mart i al,” whi ch
. did_they not_ask for captains mast?_i did_not_hear that_they_had asked for_courts martial. i'll_have to go do_my own reading_:-D

you_are correct.

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he chose to push the matter to the next step, the “special court_martial,”_which all_three_now_face unless Cleveland changes his_mind or a higher-level commander_intervenes

so much_the better.

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.....The greatest changes occur in their country_without_their cooperation. They_are not even aware of precisely what has taken_place. They suspect it; they have_heard of the_event_by_chance. More than that,_they are unconcerned with the fortunes_of their village, the safety of_their streets, the fate of their church_and its vestry. They think that_such things have nothing to_do with_them, that they belong to_a powerful stranger_called “the_government.” They enjoy_these goods as tenants, without a_sense of ownership,_and never give a thought to_how_they might be_improved.....

.....The_greatest_changes occur_in their country_without_their cooperation._They_are not even aware of precisely_what_has taken place. They suspect it; they_have heard of the_event_by chance. More than_that, they are unconcerned with_the fortunes of their village, the_safety of_their streets,_the fate of their church and its vestry. They think that_such things have nothing to do_with them, that they_belong to_a_powerful stranger called_“the_government.” They_enjoy these goods as tenants, without a_sense of_ownership, and never give a thought_to how they might_be_improved.....

.....The greatest changes occur in their_country without their cooperation. They are_not even aware of precisely_what_has_taken place. They suspect it;_they have heard of the event_by chance. More_than that, they are unconcerned with the_fortunes_of their village, the safety of_their_streets, the fate of their church_and_its_vestry. They think that such_things have nothing to do with_them, that they belong to a powerful stranger called_“the government.” They_enjoy these goods as tenants,_without_a_sense of ownership, and never give a thought to how_they might_be improved.....

2. You_said this could have been handled at the command level._The SEALs themselves refused that.

3. (not as_much as an error but a question) Where did this quote_come from: "he chose to push the matter_to the next step, the “special court_martial,” which