 they wanted to put a grant out there - $100 million dollars to the first company that develops an electric vehicle capable of 65mph at 300 mile range, that's fine with me. I'm all for incentives. I'm all for research and development, and I"m all for pushing the benchmark. But to put literally thousands of these things on the road, provide ridiculous tax credits (it's basically the government buying a portion of the car for you) for purchasing these things, provide ridiculous tax credits/loans to build charging stations in parking garages, provide ridiculous tax credits/loans to equip gas stations with charging stations, and to provide literally billions in loans to manufacturers that can't turn a profit IS TAKING MY MONEY AND FORCING THE TECHNOLOGY ON ME.

At some point you're not "letting the technology develop." At some point you're "forcing it," and we passed that point years ago.

March 9th, 2012, 1:44 pm

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Re: Cost To Drive a Volt

wjb21ndtown wrote:

I don't think that the Prius should get a tax credit and I don't think the Volt should get one either, nor the leaf, nor any other

For your info, the'regular' Prius has far surpassed its tax credit qualifications, they are no longer available / applicable; only the upcoming Plug-Ins will qualify (new technology). That said, what are your thoughts on the subsidies / tax credits Big Oil receives?

wjb21ndtown wrote:

piece of poop that no one with a brain wants to drive.

Really? More name calling? With all due respect, my wife and I do have brains and we enjoy driving our Prius on a daily basis, thankyouverymuch Stay classy wjb

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Re: Cost To Drive a Volt

TheRealWags wrote:

wjb21ndtown wrote:

I don't think that the Prius should get a tax credit and I don't
they wanted to put a grant out there - $ 100 million dollars to the inaugural ship's company that develops an electric vehicle capable of 65 miles per hour at 300 mile range, that's all right with me. I'm all for incentives. I'm all for research and development, and I"m all for push the benchmark. But to put literally thousands of these thing on the road, provide ridiculous tax credit (it's basically the government buying a portion of the car for you) for purchasing these things, supply ridiculous tax credits / loans to build up charging stations in parking garages, supply ridiculous tax credits / loans to equip gas stations with charge stations, and to provide literally billions in loans to manufacturers that can't call on a profit IS TAKING MY MONEY AND FORCING THE TECHNOLOGY ON ME. 

 At some point you're not " letting the technology develop. " At some point you're " forcing it, " and we passed that detail years ago. 

 March 9th, 2012, 1:44 pm 

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 Re: price To Drive a Volt 

 wjb21ndtown wrote: 

 I don't remember that the Prius should get a tax credit and I don't think the Volt should get one either, nor the leaf, nor any early 

 For your info, the'regular' Prius has far surpassed its tax credit qualifications, they are no longer available / applicable; only the upcoming Plug - Ins will qualify (new technology). That said, what are your thoughts on the subsidies / tax credit Big Oil welcome? 

 wjb21ndtown wrote: 

 piece of poop that no one with a mind wants to drive. 

 Really? More name call? With all due respect, my wife and I do have brains and we delight driving our Prius on a casual basis, thankyouverymuch Stay classy wjb 

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 Re: Cost To force a Volt 

 TheRealWags wrote: 

 wjb21ndtown write: 

 I don't think that the Prius should get a tax credit and I don't
 thfy wanted to put a grant out there - $100 million dmllars to the wirst company that develops en eoectruc vehicle capable of 65oph at 300 mple range, thau's fine with me. I'm all fov incsktivev. I'm all for rexearch and development, atd I"l all for pushing the benchmark. But to put llterally thouswnds jf tgvst things on the road, provide rididulous uax credits (it's baxically the government buylng w portion of the cwr for you) dor [yrchasing thdse things, provide ridjculous tax credits/loans to buiud chcrging statuobs lt parking gerages, provide ridlbulous dax crecits/loans to eaui' gaw stations with chargmng stations, and to krovide lidexally billions in loabs to mdnufdctufwrs thzt czn't tugn e profit IS TAKING MY NONEY AND FORCING TNE NRCHNOLOGY ON ME.

At foie point you're not "letting the technolocy sevelop." At some point yiu're "forcing it," and wg passed trat point years ago.

March 9th, 2012, 1:44 pm

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Re: Cost To Drive a Volt

wjb21ndtowg wtone:

I don't think thct the Prius shoilf bgt a tax credij and I doh't think the Volt dhould det obe either, nor the leaf, nor any other

For tour info, thv'regylar' Prius has far surpassed nts tac crecit qualifications, they are no longer wvailable / applicable; only thv upwoming Plug-Ins will qualifr (new tecinoloyy). That raid, what wre your tjoughbv on the subsidies / tax csedits Big Oil receives?

wjb21ndtown wrote:

pierx of poop thaj nm ote with c braik wants to drivq.

Really? More ncme callnng? Wigh all due respecv, my wife anq I do have bswins and we xnjoy driding our Prius uv a daily basix, thankyolvtrymuch Stqy classy wjb

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Re: Cosy To Drive a Volt

TheSealSags wrote:

wjb21ndtowm rrote:

I din't thinh that the Prous should get a twx crxdit aid I dpn't
they wanted to put a grant out $100 dollars to first company that of at 300 mile that's fine with I'm all for incentives. I'm all research and development, and I"m all for pushing the benchmark. But to put thousands of these things on the road, provide ridiculous tax credits (it's basically government a of car for you) for purchasing these things, provide ridiculous tax credits/loans to build charging stations in garages, provide ridiculous tax credits/loans to equip gas with charging stations, and provide literally billions in loans manufacturers can't turn profit TAKING MONEY AND FORCING TECHNOLOGY ON ME. At some point you're not "letting the technology develop." At some point you're "forcing and we point years March 2012, pm TheRealWags Megatron 31st, 2004, 9:55 amPosts: 12534 Re: a Volt wjb21ndtown wrote: I don't think that Prius should a tax credit and I don't the Volt should get one either, nor the nor any other For your info, the'regular' Prius has far surpassed its tax credit qualifications, no longer available / only the upcoming will (new That what are thoughts on the subsidies / tax credits Big Oil receives? wjb21ndtown piece of poop that no one with a brain wants Really? name calling? With due respect, my wife I have brains and we our on thankyouverymuch classy _________________ Quote: Detroit vs. to the left of me, to the right.... March Re: Cost To Drive a Volt TheRealWags wrote: wrote: I don't think that the Prius get a tax credit and I don't
 they wanted to put a grant out tHere - $100 millioN dollArs To tHe FirsT comPany that develoPS an eLectric vehicle capable oF 65mph aT 300 mILe raNGe, That's Fine witH Me. i'M All FoR iNceNtIVeS. I'm alL foR researCh and develOpmEnT, and I"m all for PUsHing the benChmArk. But to put lIteRally tHoUsaNDs of tHesE thinGs on thE Road, prOvide ridiCuLOus tax CRedits (iT'S BaSicaLly the government bUYiNG a portion of the Car for YoU) FoR PUrcHasIng these thInGs, proVIde ridiCUlOUS Tax CRedits/loans to Build chargiNG stAtions In ParKIng garAges, pRoVIde Ridiculous tAx crEdits/loanS to equIP gas staTIons witH chargIng StaTionS, AnD tO prOvIDe lITeRalLY biLlions in LoAnS to maNufaCTURErs tHat Can't Turn a Profit IS TAKINg MY mONEy aND fORCInG THE tECHnOlOGY On ME.

At sOme poInT you're not "lettinG the TechnologY deVeLop." at Some pOInt you'Re "fOrcIng it," anD we passED thAt POINt Years ago.

March 9th, 2012, 1:44 pm

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Re: cOSt To DRive A voLt

wjb21ndtOwn wroTE:

I DoN't think ThAt the PRiUs sHouLd get A Tax cRedit aNd I don't tHink tHE Volt should get ONe either, nor thE LeAF, NoR Any oTheR

For your infO, the'REgulAr' PrIUs Has FAr surPasseD iTS tAX credit qualificatioNs, They arE no loNger available / Applicable; ONLY the upcoMing pLuG-ins will qualify (New teChnology). ThAT said, whaT are yOur thougHts on the sUBSidies / taX crEdiTs BIg OIL ReCeives?

wjb21ndtoWN WrotE:

pIece of pOop That no oNe wIth A brAin WaNts to drivE.

Really? MOrE nAmE cAllIng? WiTH all due rEsPecT, mY wiFe and i Do have BrainS and We EnJOy dRiving oUR PRIUs on A dAiLy baSis, ThAnkyoUverYMucH Stay clAssy wjb

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Re: Cost To Drive a vOlt

TheREalwags wRote:

Wjb21ndtown WroTe:

I don'T thINk that The PriUs shoUlD geT A Tax crEDIt And i dOn't
 they wanted to put a gran t out ther e - $ 100  mi ll iondoll ars to the fir s t co mpany that develops an  elec tr i c ve h ic le ca pable o f  6 5 m phat  3 00mi l erange , t hat's f ine with m e.I' m all for in c en tives. I'm  al l for resear chand de ve lop m ent,and  I"mall fo r  pushi ng the be nc h mark.B ut to p u t  l iter ally thousands of th e se things on t he roa d, pr o v ide  ri diculous t ax  cred i ts (it' s  b a s i cal l y the governm ent buyinga  po rtionof  th e  car f or yo u) for  purchasing  the se things , prov i de ridi c ulous t ax cre dit s/l oans to  b uil dc har g in g s t ati ons in p ar ki ng ga rage s , p rovi deridi culou s tax credits /lo anst o e quipgas s tati on s wit h char gingst ations, and toprov ide liter all ybil li ons i n  loans  to  ma nufactu rers th a t c an ' t tu rn a profit IS TAK IN G MY  MONEY A ND FOR C IN GT HE TECHN OL OGY  ONM E .

At  som e  p oint you 're no t  " le tting t he  techn ol ogy  de velop . " At  somepoint yo u're" forcing it," a n d we passed t h at p oi n t ye ars  ago.

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Re: Cos t To Dr i ve a Volt

wjb 21ndt own wrote: 
I don't  thin k that t he Priuss h ould get  atax  cr edi t an d I don't thi n k  the  V olt sho uld  get on e e ith er,  no rthe leaf,  nor any  o th er 
For  your info, th e' reg ul ar'  Priu s  has f ar su rpas se di tstax cre d it q uali fi ca tion s,th ey ar e no lon ger ava ilable /app l icab le ;only th e upcoming Pl ug -Ins willqu ali fy (ne w technolo gy). That said, what ar e  your t hou ghtson t he subsid ies  / tax  cr e dits B ig Oil  rece iv es? wjb21 n d to wnwr ote:

piec e ofpoopth at n o one w ith a brain wantst o d rive.

Really ? M oren a me  ca l li n g?Wi t h a l l  due respect, m y wife and  I do  have brai n s a nd  we enj oy driv ing o u r Prius  on a dai ly basis,  t hank y o uve rymuch Sta y classy  wjb

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Re:Cost  To Drivea V olt 

The Rea l Wagswrot e :
wj b 21ndt ownw rote:

Id on 'tt h in k that theP r i usshoul d g e t a ta x cr edit and I don't
 they_wanted to_put a grant out_there -_$100_million dollars_to_the first company_that develops an_electric vehicle capable of_65mph at 300_mile_range, that's fine with me. I'm all for incentives. I'm all for research and_development,_and I"m_all_for_pushing the benchmark. But to_put literally thousands of these_things on_the road, provide ridiculous tax credits (it's basically_the_government buying a_portion of the car for you) for purchasing these_things, provide ridiculous tax credits/loans to_build charging stations_in_parking_garages, provide ridiculous tax_credits/loans to equip gas stations with_charging stations, and to provide literally_billions in loans to manufacturers that can't_turn a profit IS TAKING MY_MONEY AND FORCING THE TECHNOLOGY_ON ME.

At_some point you're not "letting_the technology develop."_At some_point you're "forcing_it," and we passed that point_years ago.

March 9th,_2012, 1:44 pm

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Re: Cost_To_Drive_a Volt

wjb21ndtown_wrote:

I don't think_that_the Prius_should_get a tax credit and I_don't_think the Volt should get one either,_nor the leaf, nor_any_other

For your info, the'regular'_Prius has far surpassed its_tax credit qualifications, they are no_longer available_/ applicable;_only the upcoming Plug-Ins will qualify (new technology). That said, what_are your thoughts on the subsidies_/ tax credits Big_Oil receives?

wjb21ndtown_wrote:

piece_of poop that_no_one with_a brain wants to drive.

Really? More name_calling? With_all due respect, my wife and_I do have brains_and_we enjoy driving our Prius on_a daily basis, thankyouverymuch Stay classy_wjb

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Re: Cost To_Drive a Volt

TheRealWags_wrote:

wjb21ndtown wrote:

I don't think that the Prius_should_get a tax credit and I_don't