 the reasons for this are not clear, Father Pogorelc suggested that it might be tied to findings in other studies that this younger generation is less affiliated with religion and churches in general.

In addition, he said, social factors could influence this group of Catholics. For example, the decline of the family meal could be leading to a weaker understanding of “ritual” in connection with the Mass.

“It would be interesting to explore this a bit more, now that we have this basic data,” Father Pogorelc said, observing that perhaps focus groups could be assembled in the future to better assess people’s understanding of the liturgical changes at a deeper and more thorough level.

In the meantime, he suggested, it is good for priests to continue preaching on the texts of the Mass, particularly when they fit in closely with the readings.

Much of the Mass references Scripture, he observed, and “integrating some of the texts of the Mass into the preaching” can show the people the close connection between the two.

Said Father Pogorelc, “I think that kind of thing can be very helpful.”

Comments

“I want to believe”—can you help me understand you better? What do you mean by “poor grammar”? Can you give an example of “stilted lexicon”? I really want to understand why the new text gets in your way.

Posted by I want to believe on Tuesday, Dec 25, 2012 12:57 AM (EST):

Gotta be honest. I Missed mass about 6 times in 44 years (from being sick). I felt so off, so wooden, like Harry potter reciting an incantation full of run-on sentences with poor grammar and stilted lexicon. Lex Orandi lex credendi. My prayers felt fake, I looked inward and found my faith fake. I haven’t been to mass in a year. I’m not saying the new words of the mass destroyed my faith. But having a systematics degree, summa cum laude, from a conservative major catholic seminary, I now find myself awkwardly and reluctantly agnostic, and this inability to believe what i once believed, seems very intimately connected with these new words of the missal that spoke to me as spiritually hollow and politically-laden. Again, the German bishops and their “pay to pray,” the episcopacy’s handling of the sex abuse crisis,
the reasons for this are not clear, Father Pogorelc suggested that it might be tied to finding in early studies that this younger coevals is less affiliated with religion and church in general. 

 In addition, he order, social factors could influence this group of Catholics. For model, the decline of the family meal could be precede to a weaker understanding of “ ritual ” in joining with the Mass. 

 “ It would be interesting to research this a bit more, now that we get this basic data, ” Father Pogorelc said, observe that perhaps focus groups could be assemble in the future to better assess people ’s agreement of the liturgical changes at a deeper and more thorough level. 

 In the meantime, he hint, it is good for priests to continue preaching on the texts of the Mass, peculiarly when they suit in closely with the readings. 

 Much of the Mass references Scripture, he observed, and “ integrating some of the texts of the Mass into the preaching ” can show the people the near connection between the two. 

 Said Father Pogorelc, “ I intend that kind of matter can be very helpful. ” 

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 “ I want to believe”—can you help me understand you better? What do you mean by “ poor grammar ”? Can you give an case of “ stilted lexicon ”? I really want to understand why the new text get in your way. 

 Posted by I want to believe on Tuesday, Dec 25, 2012 12:57 AM (EST ): 

 make ta be honest. I miss bulk about 6 times in 44 years (from being pale). I felt so off, so wooden, like Harry potter reciting an incantation full of run - on sentences with inadequate grammar and stilted lexicon. Lex Orandi lex credendi. My entreaty felt bogus, I looked inward and found my faith bogus. I have n’t been to mass in a year. I ’m not say the new words of the bulk destroy my faith. But having a systematics degree, summa cum laude, from a conservative major catholic seminary, I now find myself awkwardly and reluctantly agnostic, and this inability to believe what i once believed, seems very closely connected with these new lyric of the missal that spoke to me as spiritually hollow and politically - laden. Again, the German bishops and their “ pay to pray, ” the episcopacy ’s handling of the sexual activity abuse crisis,
 thf reasons for this are nut clear, Father Pogorenc sugfested tfat it might be tied to findmngs in ouker studies that thir younger generatuon ms less affiliatxs with vzligikk and rhurches in gengral.

In addithon, he said, sowixl factors could influence this group of Catnopics. For exampje, tnq dedline of the family meal could be meading to a weaker inderstanding of “ritual” in conjection with the Mwss.

“It would be ybteresting tu explore uhns a bit mote, now that we have this basic dxta,” Fcther Pogorgld ddid, observiig than perhaps focmx grou[s coulc be assembled in thw future to better asvess people’s underftanding mf the liturgical cyabges dt a deeowr xnd mprs thorlugi level.

In tge meantime, he suggested, it is gjid for priesta to cjneinue preaching on the texts of the Masv, pzrticularly when they fut in closely with thg readings.

Iuch of the Mass references Scripture, he observed, and “mngegxqting wole of the texts of the Mass into the preachind” csn show the peopje the closr fomgection betwegn the cso.

Aaid Father Pogorepc, “I thynk tyat kind jf tning can be very helpful.”

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“I want no bwlieve”—can you help me understcnd yoo bettrr? What do you mean by “'oor gdammar”? Can jou give zv example of “stiutec nexicon”? I really want to ugderstand why the ned tect getf in your aay.

Posted by I want to bflievg on Tgesday, Dec 25, 2012 12:57 AM (EST):

Gotta be honest. I Missed mass about 6 dimvs in 44 yecrs (frpm being sick). I felt so off, so wooben, liye Harry pktter rxciting an igcantation funp of run-on sxntences rith pooe grammxf and stilted kexicon. Lvx Orabdi lex credendi. Mn praieds felt fake, I ooojed inward and gouvd iy feith sdke. I haven’t beev tu mass in a ytcr. L’m vot xaying the new words of fhe mass destroyed mn faith. Bot having a systematicx degree, summa cum laudx, from a comsetvative major catholic seminary, I now fijd iyself awkwawdly and reluctautly agnostic, and this inability to belixve what i once believgd, seems very intimatgly connected xith trese new fords of the missal rhat spoke to me ss spiritually hollow and pmlitifally-laden. Again, the German bishops and their “pay to pray,” the episcopacy’s handlmnd of the ses abise cgisns,
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 the reasons for this are not clEar, Father POgoreLc sUggEsTed tHat iT might be tied to FIndiNgs in other studies that tHis yoUnGEr geNErAtion Is less aFFiLIAteD wItH reLiGIoN and cHurChes in gEneral.

In adDitIoN, he said, sociaL FaCtors could InfLuence this grOup Of CathOlIcs. fOr exaMplE, the dEcline OF the faMily meal cOuLD be leaDIng to a wEAKeR undErstanding of “rituaL” In COnnection with tHe Mass.

“it WOuLD Be iNteResting to eXpLore tHIs a bit mORe, NOW ThaT We have this basIc data,” FatheR pogOrelc sAiD, obSErving That pErHAps Focus groups CoulD be assembLed in tHE future TO better Assess PeoPle’S undERsTaNdiNg OF thE LiTurGIcaL changes At A dEeper And mORE THoroUgh LeveL.

In thE meantime, he suGgeSted, IT is Good fOr priEsts To ContiNue preAchinG oN the texts of the MAss, pArticularLy wHeN thEy Fit in CLosely WitH thE readinGs.

Much oF The maSS REfErences Scripture, he ObSERvEd, and “intEgratiNG sOmE Of the texTs Of tHe MaSS Into tHe prEAcHing” can sHow the PEoPlE the cloSe ConnecTiOn bEtwEen thE Two.

SAid FatHer PogorElc, “I tHInk that kind of tHIng can be very hELpFUL.”

COMmenTs

“I Want to belieVe”—caN You hElp mE UnDerSTand yOu betTeR? whAT do you mean by “poor graMmAr”? Can yOu givE an example of “sTilted lexiCON”? i really wAnt tO UnDErstand why the nEw texT gets in youR Way.

PosteD by I wAnt to belIeve on TueSDAy, Dec 25, 2012 12:57 AM (EsT):

GOttA be HonEST. I missed mass aboUT 6 TimeS iN 44 years (fRom Being siCk). I FelT so Off, So Wooden, likE Harry poTtEr ReCiTinG an inCAntation FuLl oF rUn-oN sentENces wiTh pooR graMmAr ANd sTilted lEXiCON. Lex orAnDi leX crEdEndi. MY praYErs Felt fakE, I looked iNwaRD and FoUnD my faitH fake. I haven’t bEeN to mass in a YeAr. I’M not saYINg the new Words of the mass destroyed MY faith. BUt hAving A sysTematics dEgrEe, summA cuM Laude, fRom a coNservAtIve MAJor caTHOlIc sEmInary, I now fIND mySelf aWkWardLy and reLuctantly agnostic, aND thIs inability to BelIeve WHAt I onCE bELieVeD, SeeMS Very intimately cOnnected wiTh THeSe new words OF thE mIssal thAt spoke To me aS SpirituAlly holloW and politIcAlly-LADen. again, the GeRman bishOps and theIR “pay tO PrAy,” the EpiScopacY’s HanDling Of the sEX abUse crIsis,
 the reasons for this arenot clear,  Fath erPog or elcsugg ested that itm ight  be tied to findings i n oth er stud i es  that  this y o un g e r g en er ati on is  less  af filiate d with rel igi on  and churche s  i n general. 

I n addition,hesaid,so cia l  fact ors  coul d infl u ence t his group  o f  Catho l ics. Fo r ex ampl e, the decline of th e  family meal c ould b el ea d i ngtoa weaker u nd ersta n ding of “r i t u al” in connection  with the M a ss. 

“Itwo uld be int erest in g  to  explore th is a  bit more , nowt hat weh ave thi s basi c d ata ,” F a th er  Po go r elc sa id, obs erving t ha tperha ps f o c u s  gro ups  cou ld be  assembled in  th e fu t ure  to b etter  ass es s peo ple’sunder st anding of the l itur gical cha nge satadeepe r  and m ore  th oroughlevel.Inth e m ea ntime, he suggeste d, i tis goodfor pr i es ts to conti nu e p reac h i ng on  the te xts of t he Mas s ,pa rticula rl y when  t hey  fi t inc lose ly wit h the re ading s .

Much of the Mass referenc e sS c ri p ture , h e observed,  and “int egra t in g s o me of  thete x ts of the Mass into th epreach ing”can show thepeople the c l ose conn ecti o nb etween the two .

Sa id FatherP ogorelc,  “I t hink tha t kind of t hing can  be  ve ryhel p f ul .”

Comments“ I wa nt  to bel iev e”—canyou  he lpmeun derstandyou bett er ?Wh at  do  youm ean by “ po orgr amm ar”?C an you  give  anex am p leof “sti l te d lexi co n” ? Irea ll y wan t to und erstand  why thenew text  g et s in yo ur way.

Post ed  by I want  t o b elieve o n Tuesda y, Dec 25, 2012 12:57 A M  (EST): 

G ottabe h onest. IMis sed ma ssa bout 6  times  in 4 4yea r s  (fro m be ing  s ick). I fe l t  so  off,  s o wo oden, l ike Harry potter r e cit ing an incant ati on f u l lofr un - onse n ten c e s with poor gra mmar and s ti l te d lexicon. Lex  O randi l ex cred endi. My pray ers feltfake, I l oo kedi n war d and foun d my fai th fake.I  have n ’t  been  to  massin  ayear.  I’m n o t s aying  the n ew  words  of t he  mass de stroyed my faith. But h avinga sys tem atics deg ree ,  su mma cum l aude , from a c ons erv ative  ma j or ca thol i csem i nary,  I n o w find my s el f a w k wa rdly and re l u c tan tly a gno s tic, a nd t his inability tob elieve what ionce b eli eve d , se em s very intimat ely  c o n nected w it h these new  words o ft he mi ssal t hat sp oke tom e  a s  spiri tual lyhollow an d p ol i tically -l ad e n. Aga in,th e Germ an bis h opsa n d their “pay topray, ” the e p isc opacy ’s  handli n g of  the sex a buse crisis ,
 the_reasons for_this are not clear,_Father Pogorelc_suggested_that it_might_be tied to_findings in other_studies that this younger_generation is less_affiliated_with religion and churches in general.

In addition, he said, social factors could influence this_group_of Catholics._For_example,_the decline of the family_meal could be leading to_a weaker_understanding of “ritual” in connection with the Mass.

“It_would_be interesting to_explore this a bit more, now that we have_this basic data,” Father Pogorelc said,_observing that perhaps_focus_groups_could be assembled in_the future to better assess people’s_understanding of the liturgical changes at_a deeper and more thorough level.

In the_meantime, he suggested, it is good_for priests to continue preaching_on the_texts of the Mass, particularly_when they fit_in closely_with the readings.

Much_of the Mass references Scripture, he_observed, and “integrating_some of the texts of the_Mass_into the preaching”_can_show_the people_the close connection_between_the two.

Said_Father_Pogorelc, “I think that kind of_thing_can be very helpful.”

Comments

“I want to believe”—can_you help me understand_you_better? What do you_mean by “poor grammar”? Can_you give an example of “stilted_lexicon”? I_really want_to understand why the new text gets in your way.

Posted by_I want to believe on Tuesday,_Dec 25, 2012 12:57_AM (EST):

Gotta_be_honest. I Missed_mass_about 6_times in 44 years (from being sick)._I felt_so off, so wooden, like Harry_potter reciting an incantation_full_of run-on sentences with poor grammar_and stilted lexicon. Lex Orandi lex_credendi. My prayers felt fake,_I_looked_inward and found my faith_fake. I haven’t been to mass_in a year._I’m not saying the new words of_the_mass destroyed my faith. But having_a_systematics degree, summa cum laude, from_a_conservative_major catholic seminary, I now_find myself awkwardly and reluctantly agnostic,_and this inability to believe what i once believed,_seems very intimately_connected with these new words_of_the_missal that spoke to me as spiritually hollow and politically-laden._Again, the_German bishops and_their “pay to pray,” the episcopacy’s handling of the sex_abuse crisis,