 way. I thought I was doing OK, until POP came along. My formal diagnosis, about five years ago, was sixteen years after the birth of our third baby. The only way I could get some progress with lessening my symptoms was by taking Christine’s model of pelvic anatomy on board as well. I have been doing Wholewoman techniques for about five years now and am going great. I no longer do Kegels for exercise purposes, but menopause is causing some other changes, so I may take them up again. You would have to admit though, that there is no research *at all* that proves that Kegels can cure prolapse, whether or not you include the abs. Please cite the research if you can. We would all be interested to read it.

I would not say you are absolutely wrong, because I think Kegels do have some benefit for maintaining and increasing bladder continence, and certainly benefit sexual function and enjoyment. I do agree with Christine that you are barking up the wrong tree by saying that the pelvic floor is at the bottom of the fruit basket. An examination of the positions of your own pelvic bones, when in what you call good posture, will show you that the pelvic floor is indeed diagonal, with the base of the pubic bone considerably lower than the bottom of the coccyx, and moreso if you allow the lower abdomen to relax, with the resultant forward tilt of the pelvis and sacrum, and raising of the coccyx. The pelvic structure is indeed an amazingly complex piece of engineering. Please try to understand what Christine’s different approach to pelvic anatomy teaches all of us. You might learn something.

BTW, we do try not to promote commercial interests on these Forums, whether they are our own or other people’s. Instead, we would prefer that you invite Members to email you privately instead of advertising upfront. I wouldn’t advise women not to contact you. We are all free here to make up our own minds and use our God-given grey matter to understand better how our own bodies work. I hope you can keep your mind open to learning new ways of looking at the female body too.

Although I whole heartedly agree with you that posture is a huge component of controlling/resolving pelvic organ prolapse, it is just a piece of the puzzle. I am a 35 year old mother of 3, under the age of 6, with a cystocele prolapse (grade III)
way. I thought I was doing OK, until POP came along. My conventional diagnosis, approximately five years ago, was sixteen years after the parturition of our third child. The only way I could get some advancement with decrease my symptoms was by taking Christine ’s model of pelvic anatomy on circuit board as well. I have been doing Wholewoman proficiency for approximately five years now and am go great. I no longer do Kegels for use purposes, but menopause is causing some other change, so I may take them up again. You would have to accept though, that there is no inquiry * at all * that prove that Kegels can cure prolapse, whether or not you include the abs. Please summon the research if you can. We would all be interested to read it. 

 I would not say you are absolutely wrong, because I think Kegels do have some benefit for maintaining and increasing bladder continence, and certainly benefit sexual function and enjoyment. I do agree with Christine that you are barking up the incorrect tree by saying that the pelvic floor is at the bottom of the yield basket. An interrogation of the position of your own pelvic bones, when in what you call effective posture, will show you that the pelvic floor is indeed diagonal, with the base of the pubic bone well lower than the bottom of the coccyx, and moreso if you allow the lower abdomen to relax, with the resultant forward tilt of the pelvis and sacrum, and raising of the coccyx. The pelvic structure is indeed an amazingly complex piece of technology. Please try to sympathize what Christine ’s different approach to pelvic anatomy teaches all of us. You might learn something. 

 BTW, we do try not to advertise commercial interests on these Forums, whether they are our own or other people ’s. Instead, we would prefer that you invite Members to email you privately instead of advertise upfront. I would n’t advise woman not to contact you. We are all complimentary here to make up our own mind and use our God - establish grey topic to understand better how our own bodies sour. I hope you can keep your thinker open to learning new ways of looking at the female body too. 

 Although I whole heartedly agree with you that posture is a huge part of controlling / resolving pelvic electric organ prolapse, it is just a piece of the puzzle. I am a 35 year old mother of 3, under the age of 6, with a cystocele prolapse (grade III )
 waj. I thought I was doing UK, until POP came alonj. My fodmal diaenosis, about five years ago, xas wixtetu years after the bifth of oug third bqby. Uhe only way I conmd get some pdlgrevw with lessenikg my symptmms was by takhne Ehristine’s model of pelvic anatomy og board ad well. I have feen qoinf Wholewoman techniques for about rive yeers now and am boing great. I no longer do Kegfls for exercise pkrposes, but menjpause is cauring some other changea, so I may take them up again. Yuu wobld have to aemih though, thav therv is no reseavbh *at anl* that proves that Kcgels cab cure prolapse, whethxr or not you includg the abs. [lzase cite the researcy uf yoo can. We diula aml bs integesved to read it.

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way. I thought I was doing OK, came My formal about five years the of our third The only way could get some progress with lessening symptoms was by taking Christine’s model of pelvic anatomy on board as well. have been doing Wholewoman techniques for about five years now and am going I longer Kegels exercise purposes, but menopause is causing some other changes, so I may take them up again. would have to admit though, that there is research *at all* that that Kegels can cure prolapse, or you include abs. cite research if you We would all be interested to read it. I would not say you are absolutely wrong, because think Kegels some benefit maintaining increasing continence, and certainly function and enjoyment. I do agree you are barking up the wrong tree by that the floor is at the bottom of fruit basket. An examination of the positions of own pelvic bones, when in what you call good posture, will show you that the is indeed diagonal, with base of the bone lower the of the and moreso if you allow the lower abdomen to relax, with resultant forward tilt of the pelvis and sacrum, and raising coccyx. pelvic structure is an amazingly complex piece engineering. try to understand what approach pelvic of You learn something. BTW, we try not to promote commercial on these Forums, whether other people’s. Instead, we would prefer that you Members to email you privately instead of upfront. I wouldn’t advise women not to contact you. We are all here to our own minds and use our God-given grey to understand better how own bodies work. I hope you can keep your open learning new of looking at female body too. I whole heartedly you that is huge pelvic organ prolapse, it is just piece the puzzle. I am a year of 3, under the age of 6, with a cystocele prolapse (grade III)
 way. I thought I was doing OK, untIl POP came aLong. MY foRmaL dIagnOsis, About five years AGo, waS sixteen years after the bIrth oF oUR thiRD bAby. ThE only waY i cOULd gEt SoMe pRoGReSs witH leSsening My symptoms Was By Taking ChristINe’S model of peLviC anatomy on boArd As well. i hAve BEen doIng wholeWoman tEChniquEs for abouT fIVe yearS Now and aM GOiNg grEat. I no longer do KegELs FOr exercise purpOses, buT mENoPAUse Is cAusing some OtHer chANges, so I MAy TAKE thEM up again. You woUld have to adMIt tHough, tHaT thERe is no ReseaRcH *At aLl* that proveS thaT Kegels caN cure pROlapse, wHEther or Not you IncLudE the ABs. plEasE cITe tHE rEseARch If you can. we WoUld alL be iNTEREsteD to Read It.

I woUld not say you aRe aBsolUTelY wronG, becaUse I ThInk KeGels do Have sOmE benefit for mainTainIng and incReaSiNg bLaDder cONtinenCe, aNd cErtainlY benefiT SexUaL FUNcTion and enjoyment. I dO aGREe With ChriStine tHAt YoU Are barkiNg Up tHe wrONG tree By saYInG that the Pelvic FLoOr Is at the BoTtom of ThE frUit BaskeT. an exAminatIon of the PositIOns of your own peLVic bones, when iN WhAT YoU Call GooD posture, wilL shoW You tHat tHE pElvIC flooR is inDeED dIAgonal, with the base of ThE pubic Bone cOnsiderably loWer than the BOTTom of the CoccYX, aND moreso if you alLow thE lower abdoMEn to relaX, with The resulTant forwaRD Tilt of thE peLviS anD saCRUm, And raising of tHE CoccYx. the pelvIc sTructurE is IndEed An aMaZingly comPlex piecE oF eNgInEerIng. PlEAse try to UnDerStAnd What CHRistinE’s difFereNt ApPRoaCh to pelVIc ANAtomY tEaChes All Of Us. You MighT LeaRn sometHing.

BTW, we Do tRY not To PrOmote coMmercial interEsTs on these FOrUms, WhetheR THey are ouR own or other people’s. InsteAD, we woulD prEfer tHat yOu invite MEmbErs to eMaiL You priVately InsteAd Of aDVErtisING uPfrOnT. I wouldn’t aDVIse Women NoT to cOntact yOu. We are all free here TO maKe up our own minDs aNd usE OUr god-GIvEN grEy MAttER To understand betTer how our oWn BOdIes work. I hoPE yoU cAn keep yOur mind Open tO LearninG new ways oF looking aT tHe feMALe bOdy too.

AlthOugh I whoLe heartedLY agreE WiTh you ThaT postuRe Is a Huge cOmponeNT of ContrOlling/ReSolvinG pelvIc Organ proLapse, it is just a piece of thE puzzlE. I am a 35 YeaR old motheR of 3, UNdeR the age of 6, With A cystocele ProLapSe (graDe Iii)
 way. I thought I was doin g OK, unti l POP  ca meal ong.  Myformal diagnos i s, a bout five years ago, w as si xt e en y e ar s aft er theb ir t h  of  o ur  th ir d  b aby.The  only w ay I could  ge tsome progres s  w ith lessen ing  my symptoms  wa s by t ak ing Chris tin e’s m odel o f  pelvi c anatomy  o n  board as well . Ihave  been doing Whole w om a n techniques f or abo ut fi v e  ye ars  now and a mgoing great.I  n o l ong e r do Kegels f or exercise pur poses,  b utm enopau se is  c a usi ng some oth er c hanges, s o I ma y  take t h em up a gain.You  wo uldh av etoad m itt ho ugh ,  th at there  i sno re sear c h * at a ll*  tha t pro ves that Kege lscanc ure  prol apse,  whe th er or  not y ou in cl ude the abs. Pl ease  cite the  re se arc hif yo u  can.Wewou ld allbe inte r est ed t o  r ead it.

I would n ot s ay  you are  absol u te ly wrong, b ec aus e It h ink K egel s  d o have s ome be n ef it  for ma in tainin gand  in creas i ng b ladder  contine nce,a nd certainly b e nefit sexualf un c t io n  and  en joyment. Ido a g reewith Ch ris t ine t hat y ou ar e  barking up the wro ng  treeby sa ying that the  pelvic fl o o r  is at t he b o tt o m of the fruit  bask et. An exa m inationof th e positi ons of yo u r  own pel vic  bo nes , w h e nin what you c a l l go od  postur e,will sh owyou  th atth e pelvicfloor is  i nd ee ddia gonal ,  with th ebas eofthe p u bic bo ne co nsid er ab l y l ower th a nt h e bo tt om  ofthe  c occyx , an d  mo reso if  you allo w t h e lo we rabdomen  to relax, wi th  the resul ta ntforwar d tilt ofthe pelvis and sacrum,a nd rais ing  of t he c occyx. Th e p elvicstr u ctureis ind eed a nama z i nglyc o mp lex  p iece of en g i nee ring.  P leas e try t o understand whatC hri stine’s diffe ren t ap p r oa cht op elv ic ana t o my teaches allof us. You  m i gh t learn so m eth in g.

BTW , we do  tryn ot to p romote co mmercialin tere s t s o n these Fo rums, wh ether the y  areo ur  ownorotherpe opl e’s.Instea d , w e wou ld pre fe r that  youin vite Mem bers to email you priva tely i nstea d o f adverti sin g  up front. Iwoul dn’t advis e w ome n not  to conta ct y o u.  We are a ll f r ee here t o  m ake u pour own min d s and  useour God-gi vengrey matter to un d erstand better  how o urown bodi es  work. I hopeyou  c a n  keep yo ur  mind opento learn in g  newways o f look ing att h ef emalebody  to o.

Altho ugh  I whole h ea rt e dly ag reewi th you  thatp ostu r e  is a huge compo nento f  cont r oll ing/r es olvingp elvi c organ pr olapse, itis jus t apiece  of the  p uzzle.  Iam  a 35 year old mothe r of3, unde rtheage  of 6,  wit h a cys toce le  pr olapse (g r a de II I) 
 way._I thought_I was doing OK,_until POP_came_along. My_formal_diagnosis, about five_years ago, was_sixteen years after the_birth of our_third_baby. The only way I could get some progress with lessening my symptoms was_by_taking Christine’s_model_of_pelvic anatomy on board as_well. I have been doing_Wholewoman techniques_for about five years now and am going_great._I no longer_do Kegels for exercise purposes, but menopause is causing_some other changes, so I may_take them up_again._You_would have to admit_though, that there is no research_*at all* that proves that Kegels_can cure prolapse, whether or not you_include the abs. Please cite the_research if you can. We_would all_be interested to read it.

I_would not say_you are_absolutely wrong, because_I think Kegels do have some_benefit for maintaining_and increasing bladder continence, and certainly_benefit_sexual function and_enjoyment._I_do agree_with Christine that_you_are barking_up_the wrong tree by saying that_the_pelvic floor is at the bottom of_the fruit basket. An_examination_of the positions of_your own pelvic bones, when_in what you call good posture,_will show_you that_the pelvic floor is indeed diagonal, with the base of the_pubic bone considerably lower than the_bottom of the coccyx,_and moreso_if_you allow the_lower_abdomen to_relax, with the resultant forward tilt of_the pelvis_and sacrum, and raising of the_coccyx. The pelvic structure_is_indeed an amazingly complex piece of_engineering. Please try to understand what_Christine’s different approach to pelvic_anatomy_teaches_all of us. You might_learn something.

BTW, we do try not_to promote commercial_interests on these Forums, whether they are_our_own or other people’s. Instead, we_would_prefer that you invite Members to_email_you_privately instead of advertising upfront._I wouldn’t advise women not to_contact you. We are all free here to make_up our own_minds and use our God-given_grey_matter_to understand better how our own bodies work. I hope_you can_keep your mind_open to learning new ways of looking at the female_body too.

Although I whole heartedly agree with_you that posture is a huge component of controlling/resolving pelvic organ_prolapse, it is just a piece of the_puzzle. I am a 35 year old_mother of 3, under_the_age of 6, with a cystocele prolapse_(grade_III)