]joe, i'm sorry you felt i was pissing on your list.  no disparagement
]was intended and i would be most interested to know what i said that
]made you feel that way.  

you didn't, I meant 'pissing' like boxer owners 'piss' on K bike owners
and K bike owners 'piss' on boxer owners and so forth. in the end it's
nothing more than co-owner ribbing. no disparagement was received or 
returned intentionally, sorry 'bout the lack of :-)'s.
