Sorry we'll never meet Doc. There's been success, and failure. The success is that there is discusion on the talk page for the Dawn Wells bio, and it's focused. I see people stepping forward to say the things that need be said and to press for answers to fair questions to those with opposing viewpoints. The failure? Perhaps none. A sacrifice had to be made. But you knew that going in. And you knew I knew, and before the May fly comment. You are smart Doc, and clever. Don't tell me how it all works out in advance. I plan to watch people work it out as it progresses. Don't spoil it for me.75.4.195.159