You should also note, that asking for evidence from me about those frat group's does not make sense, I was not invoved with those frat group writings, in fact, I only learned about them after people brought them up, and I checked the background- I could care less about frat boys, never written about them.  I'm an ex-surfer, with a full history of editing surfing/skateboarding topics, frats are not my cup of tea.