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Calling my attempts to help and put this issue asside ""rubbish""  is not helpful or pleasant. I would hope this is not an indicator that you do not wish us to work together?

I trust you read the content and now wish to address my points at Talk:Shaw and Crompton, particularly the 20 or so reliable, published sources that state it is a town, yet you believe (without citing your sources) that this is inaccurate (which you can, but this doesn't affect verifiability and inclusion on the article any way!). I really want you to pull out all the stops now and take the issue on with everything you have - I have no problem at all with a healthy (even heated) debate, but you need to cite your sources and at very least respond to other's counter-points. Without this, there is little scope (in my view) that your preferences will be implimented at all.   · (talk) "