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There is a problem here, is that some editors claim Detroit is not the birthplace of Techno, but do not provide citations to back up their position. At the same time, the internet is bulging at the seams with information showing that Detroit is where Techno was birthed. Certainly, Europe has adopted Techno as it's own, more than America or even Detroit ever has or did, but unless we can get some REAL citations going we need to remove, what I see as, the wishful editing claims that Techno began in Western Europe. We REQUIRE citations. I'm honestly pretty neutral in this, I enjoy techno, but I prefer other genres. I just happened to stumble across the article, read the first sentence and checked the ""citation"" for the Western Europe claim (as it was news to me) and was sent to a dead page. I searched ""techno origins"" and found numerous pages saying Detroit birthed techno and added those cites. The evidence is just flat out contradictory to what some editors (wish to) believe. Honestly I do not care, but if Wikipedia is to be a reliable source, we as a community must be honest with what the facts are, or provide evidence (in citations) for alternate claims. I won't be doing any further edits in this article, I'll leave this one alone, I can sense this could turn ugly real quick, so I leave it to people who care more than I do. Ultimately, if I'm wrong fine, no biggie, just please give good citations."