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ditto clio, you where very helpful with my poet question, even thou i was v vague (muir's the man) i posted questions as abe before (can u beleive that there is already a user called abe normal!) Hope my comments on the ref desk are taken the way i meant, as i truely mean wot i said about enjoying the desk entries, they can sometimes lead to an unexpected corner of knowledge and for the desk to become too rigid and formal would take that away i feel.
have to run, tis louseing time at t'factory n i have an excited 3 year old to see about her first day at nursery 
Stay Golden