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"Are we still discussing this?  Okay.  So my statement that you chose to quote, which is fine, was part of a larger earlier discussion.  Essentially you became the fork in a spoon and knife discussion.  That's fine though.  Look, I understand what everyone is saying.  I send plenty of .contactme's.  Actually, I don't even routinely send the default .contactme's because I personally believe the wording of them is rude and intrusive.  I generally send a much kinder personal message.  I certainly do this if I just come online and have aircraft in my airspace.  Now, if I've been online for some time, and I have aircraft drift into my airspace without contact, I have a bit more of an issue with it as the there are plenty of resources out there to know that I'm online.  This especially goes for departures.  I cannot tell you the amount of times I've been online for sometime, had an aircraft spawn up at one of my controlled fields, and then just start taxiing and taking off without contact.  I mean c'mon, really?!?  So maybe we can forgive a bit of the not knowing airspace boundaries for those airborne.  In the US, the ARTCC and Tower levels are very obvious on the charts.  The TRACON level is not necessarily on there, but the 40-50nm generalization is a pretty good rule of thumb.  So, bringing it full circle.  Yes, I got in a bit of a heated discussion with another user, which you chose to use a quote from.  That's fine.  In the end, I'm happy to do my part within reason, but the pilots have to do their part too.  I'm more than willing to help, and I have the feedback to show that.  I'm not into hand holding the obvious though.  That's the balance.\n \n"
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