text: #ubuntu-news 2010-04-19
  <nhandler> akgraner: You should set an irc alias to make that announcement (if you haven't already)
  <akgraner> nhandler, not sure I understand what you mean?
  <nhandler> akgraner: So you would be able to do: /announceuwn 189     and then have your IRC client send the announcement message to all of the channels
  <akgraner> ahhh ok
  <akgraner> didn't know that is what it is called
  <akgraner> I'll set that
  <akgraner> thanks!
  <nhandler> No problem akgraner.
  <akgraner> :-)
  <akgraner> nhandler, a couple of the presenters have asked for a session before open week on how to use Lernid
  <akgraner> I'm going to email all of them  - who is the person(s) to ask to lead a lernid session?
  <nhandler> akgraner: There isn't really anything to know about that other than the few things on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lernid/Session%20Leaders
  <nhandler> Do you really think that is worth a session?
  <akgraner> There are several who have never even looked at lernid and I think they just have some questions
  <nhandler> I would be interested in knowing what questions they have. I still don't think it is worth a session, but mbudde would be the best candidate
  <akgraner> k - let me see who else responds and I'll let you know
  <nhandler> akgraner: Another option is to simply forward the questions to the ubuntu-classroom@ mailing list, and I or someone else can answer them
  <akgraner> ok so far they haven't been asked in email for but I'll ask them too submit them that way
  <nhandler> Also point them to that link
  <akgraner> ok can do
  #ubuntu-news 2010-04-20
  <akgraner> nhandler, should mdz's interview go onto the Fridge?
  <akgraner> or anyone?
  <nhandler> akgraner: What was that interview about again? I can't remember
  <akgraner> Ubuntu Turkey LoCo Team Interviewed him - http://akgraner.com/?p=262
  <akgraner> well it was on the Ubuntu User Blog 1st well technically the Turkish Team blog
  <nhandler> akgraner: Yeah, it could probably go on the fridge. Want to post it?
  <akgraner> yep I can - :)
  <akgraner> let me do that now
  <nhandler> I'll be around for another hour or so to review
  <akgraner> k thanks!
  <akgraner> nhandler,  http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/2021
  <nhandler> akgraner: I would add a <BR> tag after the image.
  <nhandler> Other than that, it looks good
  <akgraner> ok let me add that and let you see it one more time :-)  then I publish  - grab the Forum Link, add the discuss the add the planet tag right?
  <nhandler> Yep
  <akgraner> nhandler, refresh and take a look now :-)
  <nhandler> Go ahead and publish akgraner :)
  <nhandler> I told you that you would get the hang of this quickly :)
  <akgraner> :-) yeah but I like knowing you all are looking over my shoulder there is something a bit comforting about that :-)
  <nhandler> :)
  <akgraner> alrighty it's done - :-) Thanks
  #ubuntu-news 2010-04-23
  <nhandler> akgraner: Can we toss the 200th issue meeting on the fridge ?
  <akgraner> As in an article or just on the Calendar
  <akgraner> I need to move it to the 6th  - completely overlooked 29th as release day
  <akgraner> nhandler,  - I added it to the Calendar - but need to change the date - see above reason^^
  <akgraner> The first meeting we can hold in -news, but the details on specific content will need to be discusses in ##johnc4510 - as we don't want to give away all the surprise content to everyone before the date
  <akgraner> and I was hoping we could have monthly -news meetings as well but wanted to get through UDS 1st
  <nhandler> akgraner: On the calendar
  <nhandler> Were you able to change the date? Or do you need me to?
  <akgraner> yep it's on there you can change it if you want I am in the middle of something else right this sec
  <nhandler> akgraner: Moved
  <akgraner> nhandler, awesome - Thank you!!
  <nhandler> np
  #ubuntu-news 2011-04-18
  <akgraner> johnc4510, I didn't get back home til much later than planned ...if you are around this week ping me..:-)
  <pleia2> do we have a blueprint yet? I think having a session at UDS is important
  <akgraner> pleia2, ahhh I new I forgot something and you are right we do need a session...I'll do that now
  <pleia2> thanks akgraner :)
  <akgraner> thanks for the reminder...:-)
  <akgraner> pleia2, I need to add some goals - but the BP has been created - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntu-news-team
  <akgraner> I'll send out notice to the teams who make up the news team once the goals are in place
  <akgraner> (which should be later this evening
  #ubuntu-news 2011-04-19
  <akgraner> adding the 6.06 EOL announcement to the Fridge now...
  #ubuntu-news 2012-04-16
  <pleia2> Unit193 (and anyone else interested in editoral review): have at it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue261
  <pleia2> ended up bullet pointing those two sections, no use losing sleep over it
   * nlsthzn got called out to an unexpected night shift :( 
  <nlsthzn> so missed out on the summaries
  <Unit193> nlsthzn: You got it then?
  <nlsthzn> ?
  <nlsthzn> Unit193: I am not following (which may be because it is 0600am and I have been awake the whole time)
  <Unit193> Heh, felt so late here too, but then I remembered dI got about 3 hours last night.
  <Unit193> echo "that take place in IRC"|sed s/in/on/
  <Unit193> Errr... English...
  <Unit193> And in the same one, s/of/or/ "Jorge Castro: Ubuntu OpenWeek call for instructors"
  <Unit193> "about the end of life of the last Pre-Unity release." Isn't 10.04 LTS still alive?
  <Unit193> And text in quotes is sometimes starting out in caps, and sometimes not...
  <pleia2> you're welcome to make direct edits
  <Unit193> I'm sure we went over this already, but the "new members" section differs from the "TeamReport".  I want to make sure they're needed, I'm being nitpicky. :P
  <pleia2> differs from?
  <pleia2> the team report is from march, the new members are from the latest meeting (in april)
  <Unit193> Doh, I'm an idiot. :P
  <pleia2> the team report is just laggy because it takes a while for teams to write them (me included)
  <Unit193> So, any changes you want?
  <pleia2> you can make the other changes you mentioned above, I'd do s/last Pre-Unity release/last non-LTS Pre-Unity release
  <Unit193> ...And wiki crapped out on me, I'll see if I can get it back.
  <Unit193> And it's using a cross of en_US and en_UK.
  <pleia2> we want us
  <Unit193> Meh, didn't see an order of names and guessed I was supposed to toss mine in. :P
  <Unit193> pleia2: Feel free to take apeek at the diff.
  <pleia2> Unit193: thanks :)
  <Unit193> Sure, if it helps, but I know you've gotta be lacking if you're calling me.
  <JoseeAntonioR> pleia2: sorry, I had to rush for lots of things for school, but I promise that the UWN in Spanish will be ready for tomorrow, don't worry about ir
  <JoseeAntonioR> pleia2: tomorrow, as soon as I get home, I'll finish to translate the UWN. I have to go now, but it'll be ready.
  <pleia2> JoseeAntonioR: great! have a good night :)
  <dholbach> good morning
  <bkerensa> dholbach: starting early this week on our next issue
  <dholbach> bkerensa, cool, do you have any plans for it already?
  <bkerensa> dholbach: I did a rought draft intro about the candidate window but I hope you will expand it because your words are much more eloquent
  <bkerensa> dholbach: now I am just harvesting sayings of our devs ;)
  <dholbach> cool - thanks for that
  <dholbach> I'm sure you're eloquent as well :-)
  <bkerensa> dholbach: fyi we can meet any day except tuesday at UDS.... I am going to be crewing for cjohnston that day
  <dholbach> I'm sure we'll find a time :)
  <SilverLion> good morning
  <benonsoftware> pleia2: Sorry for not writing any summaries for the UWN, I started school again today
  <akgraner> Hey all - looks like the newsletter is ready to go  - I forgot to tell everyone I was in Indiana this weekend and flew back in time to see Warren Haynes last night.  Crazy yet fun weekend.
  <SilverLion> akgraner: saw the pics on FB ;)
  <akgraner> Oh that's not all of them
  <akgraner> :-) - it was a great show, and some much needed down time, but I still talked about Linux, Ubuntu, and Linaro.  :-/
  <akgraner> I wanted to get a picture of me giving Warren Haynes an Ubuntu CD, but sadly my family removed all my Ubuntu Swag from the car and my purse before we left the house
  <SilverLion> akgraner: :/
  <akgraner> Yeah I know sometimes I just can't turn off my in-grained marketing gene :-)
  <riso> I just submitted an article to the fridge: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/?p=4791
  <SilverLion> delivers a 404
  <SilverLion> akgraner: my article was accepted by ronnie and will be published next month with your daughter ;)
  <akgraner> :-)  thank goodness you didn't talk to her.. one day paybacks are going to be a pain for me I am sure :-)
  <SilverLion> akgraner: well hang on ...
  <akgraner> :-P
   * SilverLion is going to send a FB-Message to Becca
  <akgraner> Um, everything she says gets to be reviewed by Pete or I :-)
  <akgraner> well unless she post it on FB - then I just tell her what to remove
  <riso> mm, so it does. Well, I'm not sure how to get the link to it then. It is in the fridge under the ubuntu acct. Title: CLI bindings for libcanberra and a new user timer app
  <akgraner> riso - I'll look for it  - in just a second
  <riso> ah, so maybe this works: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/wp-admin/post.php?post=4791&action=edit
  <akgraner> when did you submit it?
  <riso> ~40 min
  <akgraner> ahh ok  - I'll take a look in just a few - on the phone right now - once I finish this call, I'll look though
  <riso> great, no problem
  <pleia2> I'll publish in about 2.5 hours
  <pleia2> so if anyone else can do edtorial review that'd be great: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue261
  <Unit193> Since I was last person to edit it, I shouldn't. (Though, now it's not the middle of the night)
  <pleia2> :)
  <riso> hello. If it hasn't been processed yet, I submitted this today: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/wp-admin/post.php?post=4791&action=edit
  <pleia2> I'll take a look
  <pleia2> "Once you do this, be sure to notify a Fridge editor" is an important step, we aren't alerted when people create posts in WP
  <pleia2> riso: could your post explain why this is valuable news to Ubuntu users?
  <pleia2> (it's unclear to me)
  <pleia2> ah, I see akgraner was going to take a look too
  <riso> yeah, I already posted something here several hours ago
  <riso> right
  <pleia2> thanks :) sorry I didn't see it
  <riso> The most important thing at the level of Ubuntu users would be the announcement of the new app, the other half is more developer level. I'm not sure if there's a more appropriate place
  <pleia2> hmm
  <pleia2> is this a default part of Ubuntu? I guess I don't really understand what the app is and why people need to be informed about it
  <riso> it is currently a "blessed gnome" dependency, i believe
  <pleia2> "blessed gnome"?
  <riso> ah, the library is
  <pleia2> maybe edit the post to describe what the library is used for that would impact regular users?
  <riso> I believe it is a standard component of the gnome base.
  <riso> that could be done. The impact is really only visible to developers though.
  <riso> the application using it is user-level of course
  <pleia2> ok, maybe add a line about the news being for developers? we get everyone from brand new linux users to hard core developers reading the fridge, so it needs to be written so that even if not everyone understands it, the audience is clear
  <riso> that makes sense. It should be partitioned into two pieces for the relative audiences then
  <pleia2> yeah
  <riso> Perhaps it should be two separate posts even?
  <pleia2> I think we should keep it to one
  <riso> Very good
  <pleia2> maybe just used some heading tags that say something like "For developers" and "For users"
  <riso> Right, that's what I was thinking
  <riso> I can't take care of it right now though...I have to go.
  <pleia2> no problem, just mention in here later when you can
  <pleia2> thanks!
  <riso> sure, thanks for the review!
  <SilverLion> akgraner, ping
  <akgraner> SilverLion, pong
  <SilverLion> akgraner just leaving the note that i am there if you need me ;)
  <akgraner> ok thanks - it's Monday and I am digging through my email after being away from my inbox for 2.5 days
  <pleia2> The new edition of the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter is now available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue261
  #ubuntu-news 2012-04-17
  <JoseeAntonioR> pleia2: what's the strange character in the LoCo news section?
  <pleia2> JoseeAntonioR: if you follow the url link it should bring you to the blog title
  <pleia2> which has the strange character, I think it transferred poorly between blog/google doc/wiki :\
  <JoseeAntonioR> hmm, no problem then :) I'm very sorry for the delay, I'm almost finished with it, it's just that I've had a though weekend with school
  <JoseeAntonioR> pleia2: ok, the Spanish edition is now ready
  <pleia2> JoseeAntonioR: great!
  <pleia2> and no worries about it being late, I understand :)
  <JoseeAntonioR> thanks :)
  <JoseeAntonioR> pleia2: do you have a second for a PM?
  <pleia2> sure
  <dholbach> good morning
  <SilverLion> morning every1
  <SilverLion> hey coplon/passstab
  <passstab> hi
  <passstab> sorry about coplon
  <passstab> fixing now
  <passstab> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA4ODU
  <passstab> is that a good link?
  <passstab> IDK if you just use the mailing list
  <riso> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/wp-admin/post.php?post=4791&action=edit is ready to be reviewed/published
  <akgraner> riso  - thanks!
  #ubuntu-news 2012-04-18
  <dholbach> good morning
  <SilverLion> morning
  <risotto> in case my message was missed before, http://fridge.ubuntu.com/wp-admin/post.php?post=4791&action=edit is ready to be reviewed/published
  <akgraner> risotto, there are some questions still - what email address can I send comments too?
  <akgraner> While I can ask you here  - it would be easier for me to send you comments etc in editors formating etc
  <SilverLion> hi everyone
  <nlsthzn> Hey SilverLion :)
  <nlsthzn> ooh a bit late on the hello
  <SilverLion> cprofitt: hey there
  <cprofitt> hey SilverLion
  <MrChrisDruif> Aloha cprofitt ! ^_^
  <SilverLion> cprofitt: just wanted to thank you again for your support ;) finally found a home now with Ronnie Tucker ;)
  <cprofitt> ?
  <cprofitt> Ronnie Tucker?
  <SilverLion> cprofitt: http://fullcirclemagazine.org
  <cprofitt> I am still not following SilverLion ...
  <SilverLion> cprofitt: last time we talked I was a little unhappy in this community
  <cprofitt> ah...
  <SilverLion> and in the meantime i pretty much grew together with Ronnie Tucker and have to create the epub (mobile) version of the Magazine now
   * cprofitt nods
  <cprofitt> I think I understand now... great to hear
  <MrChrisDruif> cprofitt; how's it going?
  <akgraner> whoa  - cprofitt's in da house!
  <SilverLion> akgraner: the Lion is too ;)
  <akgraner> :-) but sadly I still have 3 more things to write before my day ends
  <akgraner> then I can transition to Ubuntu stuff for the remained of the day
  <akgraner> :-)
  <akgraner> bbiab
  <MrChrisDruif> See ya later akgraner ^_^
  <MrChrisDruif> cprofitt; I don't know if you remembered, but months ago you withheld your testimonial for when I was finally going for Ubuntu Member. I'm up for tomorrow night! ^_^
  <cprofitt> MrChrisDruif: I withheld?
  <cprofitt> wiki link?
  <MrChrisDruif> Well, withheld or wasn't going to write one
  <MrChrisDruif> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MrChrisDruif/Testimonials
  <Unit193> MrChrisDruif: I'll be there, as you know, so I'll do mine there.
   * MrChrisDruif can't remember if I did yours! O_O
  <cprofitt> all done MrChrisDruif
  <MrChrisDruif> Thanks cprofitt
  <MrChrisDruif> ^_^
  #ubuntu-news 2012-04-19
  <dholbach> good morning
  <Unit193> Howdy.
  <SilverLion> mornin
  <SilverLion> good evening
  <nlsthzn> o/
  <SilverLion> nlsthzn, long time no see man!
  <nlsthzn> Why SilverLion , where you blind?
  <nlsthzn> *were
  <SilverLion> nlsthzn, seems like it :D
  <nlsthzn> :) how are you?
  <SilverLion> nlsthzn, busy getting my 23 inch Screen back on track
  <nlsthzn> nice
  <SilverLion> nlsthzn, but i wait till the release of Lubuntu 12.04
  <nlsthzn> I am still trying to get my screen to use it's naitive resolution
  <SilverLion> nlsthzn, ;)
  #ubuntu-news 2012-04-20
  <dholbach> good morning
  <SilverLion> good morning
  <SilverLion> philipballew ping
  <bkerensa> dholbach: hi
  <dholbach> hi bkerensa
  <bkerensa> dholbach: does Germany still have the Love Parade?
  <SilverLion> dholbach & bkerensa good morning from north-rhine westfalia ;)
  <bkerensa> SilverLion:Good Morning Indeed (1:53am here in wet Oregon)
  <dholbach> SilverLion, whereabouts in NRW are you?
  <SilverLion> bkerensa: and you are still up?
  <bkerensa> SilverLion: Only for a short bit more then to sleep :)
   * bkerensa is watching some Paul Oakenfold videos
  <dholbach> bkerensa, in 2010 we had the last one and it turned into http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Parade_disaster
  <bkerensa> oh
  <SilverLion> dholbach: seems like there will be one in Berlin this year
  <bkerensa> o.o
  <dholbach> SilverLion, aha - I didn't hear about it elsewhere
  <SilverLion> dholbach: btw. did you get a g+ message from a guy called HarryLweber ?
  <SilverLion> dholbach: http://www.b-parade.de/projekt.html ;)
  <dholbach> SilverLion, I don't recall
   * SilverLion is happy to know a bit more then dholbach
  <JanC> http://techcrunch.com/2012/04/19/an-interview-with-millenium-technology-prize-finalist-linus-torvalds/ --> small nice thing from Linus about Ubuntu about 2/3rd into there  âº
  #ubuntu-news 2012-04-21
  <pleia2> good morning news friends!
  <nlsthzn> news summaries, iso testing...
  <nlsthzn> so much to do :p
  <pleia2> indeed
  <pleia2> I'm going to blog about the team again, hopefully pull in some new people
   * pleia2 has half-written blog post
   * pleia2 works on it
  <pleia2> ok, here we go http://princessleia.com/journal/?p=5897
  #ubuntu-news 2012-04-22
  <passstab> IW isn't working for me right now
  <passstab> but somebody should probably put http://lifehacker.com/5904069/five-best-distributions
  <passstab> nvm i did it
  <pleia2> thanks passstab
  <passstab> np :)
  <passstab> how do you decide what goes in "other articles of intrust" ?
  <pleia2> it tends to be big linux-related news, or generic "best of" articles that we find interesting
  <pleia2> I like to include debian news there too
  <pleia2> need to run off to the airport, but I'll be back in a bit (dropping my fiance off *sniff*)
  <passstab> b
  <akgraner> Ubuntu stats are in
   * MrChrisDruif checks real quick if all flavor meetings are up to date and if he can make one/two summaries
  <akgraner> security and updates anre in as well
  <akgraner> MrChrisDruif, thanks for checking on that
  <MrChrisDruif> I *think* only Lubuntu had a meeting...again
  <MrChrisDruif> pleia2; no Xubuntu meeting?
  <Unit193> Nope.
  <MrChrisDruif> Thanks Unit193
  <MrChrisDruif> Saves me searching
  <Unit193> Unless they hid it from me. >_>
  <pleia2> akgraner: thank you!
  <pleia2> MrChrisDruif: right
  <akgraner> pleia2, let me know if you need a reviewer - I'm going to be afk for a couple hours but will check back before turning in for the night - stayed up to late watching ppv UMA fights last night and I am paying for it now
  <akgraner> but will be happy to review and move stuff over in a few hours for you if you want
  <pleia2> akgraner: thanks :) I'm running out to lunch now but I suspect I'll need to write some summaries, and when I write summaries I need more pairs of eyes reviewing
   * pleia2 seeks sushi
  <akgraner> pleia2, ping my on gmail (my phone will yell at me if you do) and I'll help with some summaries
  <pleia2> still need several summaries, I'll start writing some soon
  <nlsthzn> :( after the last of the Sc2 games I will get 6 hours sleep then I will clean up what is left...
  <pleia2> nlsthzn: it needs to be finished in the next couple hours, thanks though
  <nlsthzn> hmmm...
  <nlsthzn> k... then I can try and do a few in an hour or so...
  <Unit193> I can be useless and look over it when everyone is done. :P
  <pleia2> Unit193: that's not useless!
  <Unit193> It is if you don't really know what you're doing. :D
  #ubuntu-news 2013-04-15
  <pleia2> ok, newsletter sent off to editors
  <pleia2> Unit193: care to link check? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue312
  <Unit193> Either script is broken, or no unexpected dead links.
  <JoseeAntonioR> pleia2: stats have been pulled?
  <pleia2> JoseeAntonioR: yeah, it's pretty much ready aside from final editing (then adding "in this issue" and pulling out stray comments)
  <JoseeAntonioR> ok!
  <JoseeAntonioR> tomorrow I have to do a MUN audition, but once I'm done I'll get straight to it
  <bkerensa> :D
  <dholbach> good morning
  <smartboyhw> JoseeAntonioR, how's the news?:P
  <JoseeAntonioR> smartboyhw: will try to work on that in a minute
  <JoseeAntonioR> ok, working on releasing now
  <smartboyhw> JoseeAntonioR: \o/
  <JoseeAntonioR> I'm manually working on the line breaks, so please be patient
  <JoseeAntonioR> Unit193: link check please?
  <Unit193> Did not too long ago, nothing unexpected.
  <JoseeAntonioR> great, thanks
  <akgraner> looks like it cuts off at this line - People Contributing the best questions and answers this week: Luis
  <akgraner> Alvarado (http://askubunt
  <akgraner> oops
  <JoseeAntonioR> hmm?
  <JoseeAntonioR> The new edition of the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter is now available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue312
  <smartboyhw> JoseeAntonioR: \o/ thx for releasingâ¦):)
  <JoseeAntonioR> no worries, smartboyhw!
  <smartboyhw> JoseeAntonioR why shall I worry?
  <JoseeAntonioR> it's an expression
  #ubuntu-news 2013-04-16
  <smartboyhw> JoseeAntonioR: Just joking:P
  <akgraner> JoseeAntonioR, thank you!  I'll fix the forum post in just a few - social media'ing is complete and the Fridge post is approved
  <JoseeAntonioR> great, thanks a bunch!
  <pleia2> ah, we need to get someone else with access to all our social media accounts
  <pleia2> akgraner: I'll get you the twitter login info before I leave :)
  <akgraner> pleia2, cool  - I have the FB and Google+ stuff
  <harris> what is worth reading today in the email
  <harris> and why didnt lyz send it
  <JoseeAntonioR> harris: because lyz was busy, and most of the articles are worth reading
  <harris> can you tell her i say hi and she does a good job
  <JoseeAntonioR> pleia2: ^
  <harris> who is pleia2
  <JoseeAntonioR> lyz
  <harris> you just cant go by liz
  <harris> lyz
  <harris> and how do i get to it do i click the wiki
  <JoseeAntonioR> yes, click on the wiki link and you'll get to the newsletter
  <harris> i only have time to read one which should i read
  <JoseeAntonioR> I think that's up to you
  <harris> you wrote it
  <harris> i dont know whats good
  <harris> JoseeAntonioR,
  <JoseeAntonioR> harris: I didn't exactly write it, it's a collaboration between many team members
  <harris> just which one should i read
  <harris> JoseeAntonioR, isnt it 13.04 not 13.05
  <JoseeAntonioR> harris: 13.05 is for the Ubuntu Developer Summit, which is occurring in May
  <harris> ok
  <harris> none of them seem interesting
  <harris> and since you wont tell me which to read im just unsubscribing
  <skellat> Have a nice day then
  <JoseeAntonioR> oh, just read this
  <Unit193> JoseeAntonioR: He's known to not wait for much.
  <JoseeAntonioR> Unit193: you've dealed with him before?
  <Unit193> Not me personally, but seen when he asked to be an op, and him trying to get unbanned too. (Pretty sure he isn't now.)
  <dholbach> good morning
  #ubuntu-news 2013-04-17
  <dholbach> good morning
  #ubuntu-news 2013-04-18
  <dholbach> good morning
  <JoseeAntonioR> pleia2 or akgraner: there's a guy who's got an Ubuntu Community Survey and wants to post it to the fridge+planet, I can do planet, but is it appropriate for the Fridge?
  <pleia2> not really
  <JoseeAntonioR> ok, thanks!
  <pleia2> fridge is official news, 3rd party surveys are not :)
  <pleia2> can include your post in the planet section of UWN though
  <JoseeAntonioR> yeah, I still get a bit confused when they ask me about something getting on the fridge
  <JoseeAntonioR> yep, I'll do that, but once I've got the blog post
  <JoseeAntonioR> everything's going good over Portland?
  <pleia2> yep, wrapping up in 40 minutes or so and heading to the airport
  #ubuntu-news 2013-04-19
  <smartboyhw_> JoseeAntonioR: Who's "that guy"?
  <JoseeAntonioR> smartboyhw_: I think I may respect the privacy, as he talked to me via IRC
  <JoseeAntonioR> pleia2: have a nice flight!
  <smartboyhw_> JoseeAntonioR: Or rather, is he an Ubuntu member?
  <JoseeAntonioR> nope
  <smartboyhw_> pleia2: Have a nice trip:)
  <smartboyhw_> JoseeAntonioR: Not sure can that go to the Planet section
  <JoseeAntonioR> smartboyhw_: I can post it
  <smartboyhw_> JoseeAntonioR: :)
  <dholbach> good morning
  #ubuntu-news 2013-04-20
  <pleia2> summary writer email sent out
  <pleia2> I'll probably be able to do most of the prep this weekend
  <pleia2> JoseeAntonioR: I'm going to give you a shell account on my community server so you can run the scripts without the whitespace problem, please send me your preferred username and public ssh key when you have a chance :)
  <Unit193> Ooooh!  Free shell account!
  <pleia2> heh
  <smartboyhw> pleia2, if you have any spare time do me a flavour and review my wordings for the UWN draft:P
  <pleia2> smartboyhw: a lot of these are really short again
  <smartboyhw> pleia2, grrr.
  <pleia2> like in the "10 Best Ubuntu 13.04 Features" you want to say what some of them are
   * smartboyhw leaves them for the other people.
  <smartboyhw> No time to fix, sleep!
  <pleia2> people won't touch them since they will think they are done already
  <pleia2> I'll need to fix them all :(
  <pleia2> I've tried to explain this to you before, the summaries need to do more than just repeat what the article title is in different words
  <smartboyhw> pleia2, extremely sorry:(
  <pleia2> I highly encourage you to take more time on each one and leave some of the work for others instead of doing everything quickly like this
   * smartboyhw posts a reminder to self at the computer.
  <pleia2> doing them all quickly just makes more work for me
  <smartboyhw> pleia2, OK
  <Pendulum> smartboyhw: when I do summaries, I generally figure they should be about a paragraph (so about 4 sentences). And they really do require reading the entire article. I'd had summaries longer than that for longer articles (it's hard to get 8 pages into 4 sentences), but you can't really get a good summary in less than a paragraph
  <Pendulum> *I have done summaries longer
  <skellat> New summary for Burning Circle 110: "The  newly appointed Leader for Ubuntu Ohio, Stephen Michael Kellat, talks  about the on-going Membership Awareness Poll as an effort to gauge what  members are actually out there. Â Mention is given as to preparing for a  possible UbuCon at Ohio Linux Fest 2013. Â The leader declared at the end  that he intends to set up IRC office hours but has come to no decision  yet in that regard."
  <Pendulum> Did we start summarizing podcasts? We used to just post the notes provided by the podcasters
  <pleia2> thanks Pendulum and skellat :)
  <JoseeAntonioR> pleia2: ping
  <pleia2> JoseeAntonioR: pong
  <JoseeAntonioR> pleia2: mind a PM to send the info?
  <pleia2> go for it
  #ubuntu-news 2013-04-21
  <harris> where is liz
  <pleia2> o_O
  <Unit193> Pretty much normal MO.
  <skellat> Ohio Statewide Conference Call (Raring Ringtail Release Party) is set for Thursday night at 9 PM Eastern via TalkShoe.com.  Call-in to 1-724-444-7444, conference ID is 127739, then hit 1# unless you have a TalkShoe account.  Everybody joins the call muted initially.  No set length for the event.
  #ubuntu-news 2014-04-14
  <jose> email sent to editors
  <jose> ok, getting ready to release in less than 5m
  <jose> ok, working on it now
  <jose> Unit193: mind link checking, please? :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue363
  <Unit193> Looks good.
  <jose> thanks!
  <jose> The new edition of the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter is now available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue363
  #ubuntu-news 2014-04-16
  <ubusurfer> hi
  #ubuntu-news 2014-04-17
  <jose> pleia2: you doing the release announcement on the Fridge?
   * PaulW2U it looks like this is that time again where I add hundreds of links to the working .doc only for pleia2 to keep the best and delete the rest  :o)
  <jose> haha, maybe if they're all 14.04 reviews we can group them?
  <PaulW2U> I think some of them are just speculating about what's going to be released very soon. Anyway, there will be plenty for pleia2 to group/edit/delete/move etc :)
  <pleia2> jose: I'll be around for the next 2-3 hours, if it's released in that time I'll be able to post it
  <pleia2> I'll be sure to mention here if I do :)
  <jose> ok, I can take care if needed :)
  <pleia2> PaulW2U: thanks \o/
  <jose> pleia2: we're good to go
  <pleia2> I do not see an announcement yet
  <pleia2> aha, there it is
  <pleia2> jose: you want to do it?
  <jose> sure, I'm all set
  <pleia2> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2014-April/000182.html
  <pleia2> thanks :)
   * pleia2 runs off to publish the xubuntu one
  <jose> announcement is now on the fridge
  <pleia2> thanks jose \o/
   * jose pops champagne... but doesn't drink it
   * pleia2 too
  <pleia2> we're having our release party next week so I can drink then (hopefully)
  <pleia2> PaulW2U: so if you want, you can move all the release-related posts up as bullet points under the main announcement and I'll cull as needed
  <PaulW2U> ok, i'll do that shortly
  <jose> pleia2: ronnie tucket x-posted the announcement to the planet via his personal blog, not sure if we should give him a heads up
  <jose> (and I'm working with IS as Fridge doesn't appear)
  <pleia2> jose: fridge always takes forever to appear, it's the caching
  <pleia2> xubuntu.org has the same problem, they've known about it for ages
  <pleia2> I gave up complaining, but by all means :)
  <jose> :P
  <jose> well, let's hope they can fix it at some point
  <jose> (even if that's in 2020)
  #ubuntu-news 2014-04-18
  <gonyere> do you want summaries for all/some of the coverage re: the 14.04 release? or should I just skip down to planet/cloud news?
  #ubuntu-news 2014-04-19
  <jose> gonyere: we usually don't do summaries for bullet-pointed lists, and I think PaulW2U was about to put them in a list
   * jose double checks
  <gonyere> thats what i figured
  <gonyere> just wondered if there was one or two that we wanted to highlight
  <jose> I don't think so :)
  <jose> thanks a lot for working on summaries!
  <gonyere> np :) I just wish there were other areas of Ubuntu that were as easy to contribute to!
  #ubuntu-news 2014-04-20
  <PaulW2U> canonical and blogosphere summaries still to be written if anyone wants to do them. 'night all
  #ubuntu-news 2015-04-13
  <pleia2> anyone else about to write summaries? ahoneybun?
   * pleia2 starts moving things over && prep wiki
   * ahoneybun looks to write pausing The Walking Dead
  <pleia2> :D
  <pleia2> thanks!
  <Unit193> ahoneybun: Didn't that end two weeks ago?
  <ahoneybun> Unit193: Netflix :)
  <ahoneybun> pleia2: sorry I've been lazy this whole weekend
  <ahoneybun> things are moving! lol
  <pleia2> haha, sorry, moving stuff over to the wiki :)
  <ahoneybun> and someone is adding summaries
  <pleia2> looks like only two people in the document, me and you
  <pleia2> I do some editorial review when I move stuff over
  <ahoneybun> yep
  <Unit193> Sorry, but I've turned out to be terrible with writing those. :3
  <ahoneybun> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/04/08/the-power-of-software-defined-networking-appliances-sdna/ this is a bit out of my range lol
  <pleia2> ahoneybun: no worries :) I'll take care of it, thanks for your help with the blogosphere articles! be sure to add your name to the bottom of the doc
  <ahoneybun> np pleia2 I'll try to get more next wee
  <ahoneybun> *week
  <pleia2> Unit193: it's not for everyone :) care to link check? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue412
  <Unit193> That I can.
  <Unit193> Good.
  <pleia2> thanks
  <PaulW2U> added an "Other Article of Interest" to the wiki
  <MooDoo> sorry all i did one summary then had a problem with a non sleepy daughter.....:S
  <PaulW2U> editorial review done
  <pleia2> wow, I've been trying to release this newsletter for a half hour now
  <pleia2> work keeps pinging me D:
  <pleia2> once this is done, I'll get the loco council call for nominees up on the fridge
  <wxl> yay
  <pleia2> and tomorrow we should have news re: membership board
  <pleia2> Welcome to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 412 for the week April 6 - 12, 2015 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue412
  <pleia2> it's nice when hotel wifi cooperates :)
  <pleia2> ok, all done, off to conference social now \o/
  #ubuntu-news 2015-04-14
  <ahoneybun> yy
  <ahoneybun> *yay
  <ahoneybun> yay!
  #ubuntu-news 2015-04-16
  <pleia2> MooDoo: happy birthday! (I know I'm late your time)
  <ahoneybun> pleia2: hello
  <pleia2> o/ ahoneybun
  <ahoneybun> o/
  <ahoneybun> pleia2: where are the logs of the decision for the Membership Board?
  <pleia2> ahoneybun: you'll have to look back into archives for when they had meetings, so they have meetings on the 1st Thursday of the month @ 22:00 UTC and 3rd Wednesday of the month at 12:00 UTC so just figure out those dates, and look for the logs at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
  <pleia2> so let's see, the first thursday of this month was the 2nd
  <pleia2> here's the one from then: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/02/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t21:03
  <pleia2> err, bad paste: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/02/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t22:04
  <pleia2> half the meeting was getting enough board members to show up, which is why it was important to restaff ;)
  <pleia2> it may be good to include a link to the meeting logs in the announcement emails they send out (like https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-news-team/2015-April/002197.html)
  <pleia2> easier to keep track of them that way, then it doesn't take cross referencing dates with logs to dig them up :)
  <ahoneybun> pleia2: I don't think I will get the old email since I just sub to it now that I am a member
  <pleia2> ahoneybun: you probably have access to the private archives, but I meant the *public* emails they send to announce new members
  <pleia2> results are sent to the ubuntu-news-team mailing list so we can include them in UWN
  <ahoneybun> pleia2: I just want to see how I got voted in lol
  <pleia2> ahoneybun: oh, I thought you meant logs for membership meetings
  <ahoneybun> membership to the Board
  <pleia2> ahoneybun: the CC just does a condorcet vote across all candidates based on your email to the membership board and what we know of you from the community
  <pleia2> not much discussion really
  <ahoneybun> oh ok
  <ahoneybun> thanks
  <pleia2> :)
  <MooDoo> thanks pleia2 :D xx
  #ubuntu-news 2015-04-17
   * pleia2 adds a few articles and sends off to summary writers
  #ubuntu-news 2015-04-19
   * PaulW2U counts summaries - 9 still to be done
  <pleia2> thanks PaulW2U
  <ahoneybun> done 3
  <pleia2> \o/
  <ahoneybun> 4 done
  <ahoneybun> in total
  #ubuntu-news 2016-04-18
  <tsimonq2> pleia2: and if I do end up releasing by myself, is there an editor I can consult to ensure it's high-quality?
  <pleia2> tsimonq2: the problem is right now is that I'm the only editor, and since you're writing a lot of the summaries I'd rather keep those roles at least somewhat separate
  <pleia2> tsimonq2: so I think it makes sense for us to continue releasing together so I can do a final once through
  <pleia2> still no summaries :(
  <pleia2> tsimonq2: are you going to have any time this evening to work on this?
  <pleia2> working on planet now
  <pleia2> and now general news
  <tsimonq2> pleia2: accidentally kept important things mounted when I removed a directory containing a bootstrap, so I intended to but was recovering :(
  <tsimonq2> actually working on it now
  <tsimonq2> although it won't show my name it's me, not logged in with Google right now
  <pleia2> bullet-pointed blogosphere, just need press and audio&video one
  <tsimonq2> working :)
  <pleia2> thanks, adding stats now
  <tsimonq2> ok
  <tsimonq2> heheheh Bryan Lunduke interviews Mark Shuttleworth
  <tsimonq2> this is gonna get interesting XD
  <pleia2> :)
  <tsimonq2>  \o/ off of chromebook, onto Lubuntu live USB, gonna log into Google and continue to work while debootstrap runs
  <pleia2> ok, stats are done, I have dinner reservations so I need to run out
  <pleia2> I'll move the rest of the summaries over when I return, and send off to editors
  <tsimonq2> pleia2: I'll finish them up :)
  <tsimonq2> have fun pleia2 ")
  <tsimonq2> *:)
  <pleia2> thanks :)
  <tsimonq2> pleia2: should be all good, look at some comments but otherwise good to go
  <pleia2> tsimonq2: so the kubuntu podcast blog post has some info in it, I'd just summarize that
  <pleia2> tsimonq2: for uk podcast, I usually take from the bullet-point list and chop out a few things if it gets too wordy/linky
  <pleia2> tsimonq2: actually, just checked the date on kubuntu - november! oops :)
  <pleia2> I thought it was strange that ahoneybun didn't tell us about it, he usually does
  <tsimonq2> little late for me to finish them up, sorry
  <tsimonq2> in bed :P
  <tsimonq2> I did get a few done though
  <pleia2> thanks for working on these
  <pleia2> expanding a few of them before I move them over
  <pleia2> have a good night :)
  <tsimonq2> you too :)
  <tsimonq2> normal time tomorrow for release?
  <tsimonq2> pleia2: ^
  <pleia2> tsimonq2: I have a meeting at 3:30 pacific outside of my home, so I may be slightly later than normal (normal is 5 pacific)
  <tsimonq2> alright, I'll keep that in mind
  <tsimonq2> thanks and night :)
  <pleia2> Unit193: link check? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue462
  <Unit193> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-my/3355-ubuntu-16.04-release-party-with- ~ http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-ca/3361-kw-ubuntu-16.04-xenial-xerus-release-party/ ~ http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-mi/3354-ubuntu-michigan-16.04-release-party/
  <pleia2> Unit193: all broken?
  <Unit193> Whoop, missed http://marcoceppi.com/2016/04/charm-2-point-oh/rsions too.
  <Unit193> pleia2: Yep.
  <pleia2> fun times
  <Unit193> I didn't break 'em! :3
  <pleia2> oh that last one was just some bad copy-paste from me
  <pleia2> I think they'er all fixed, try again?
  <Unit193> Looked cached, niice.  No FPs even!  Wow.
  <Unit193> Good to go, that is.
  <ahoneybun> pleia2, about what?
  <pleia2> ahoneybun: kubuntu podcast #6 ended up on planet again, even though it's from november ;)
  <tsimonq2> pleia2: you around?
  <tsimonq2> pleia2: oh that's right, you have a meeting, let me know :)
  #ubuntu-news 2016-04-19
  <tsimonq2> starting pre-relase tasks, basically everything but posting places
  <tsimonq2> *release
  <tsimonq2> step 13 done
  <tsimonq2> step 14 donw
  <tsimonq2> *done
  <tsimonq2> step 15 done
  <tsimonq2> Welcome to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 462 for the week April 11 - 17, 2016 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue462
  <tsimonq2> step 16 done
  <tsimonq2> pleia2: waiting for you to proceed, if another hour passes and you aren't here, I'll finish up
  <pleia2> woo city traffic
  <pleia2> tsimonq2: here now  :P
  <tsimonq2> yay
  <ahoneybun> heyo all
  <pleia2> doing my final review now
  <pleia2> random pcworld article pasted in the middle of the adding snaps article o_O
  <pleia2> fixed
  <tsimonq2> this is why you review ;)
  <pleia2> and no forgotten/last minute ubuntu-news-team posts, I think we're good to go
  <tsimonq2> awesome
  <pleia2> tsimonq2: you can't run the script twice (caching is too strong) so you'll have to edit anything you generated by hand to remove the pcworld article link
  <tsimonq2> alright
  <pleia2> I'll put on social media
  <tsimonq2> alright
  <pleia2> want to work on fridge? (should be able to log in this time)
  <tsimonq2> after I sdjust my files locally :)
  <tsimonq2> *adjust
  <pleia2> doesn't look like you can post to discourse, I think your posts keeps getting stuck in a queue that's never emptied, I never see them show up even when it tries to post :\
  <pleia2> and I don't know who the active admins are there these days who can help with that
  <tsimonq2> so you do discourse I do fridge?
  <tsimonq2> (done adjusting files)
  <pleia2> yeah
  <tsimonq2> alright
  <pleia2> sigh, links didn't generate for fridge, "And much more!" at the end of the list looks fine, so that's odd
  <tsimonq2> yeah I was looking at that...
  <tsimonq2> *sigh* generating Planet manually will be fun...
  <pleia2> I'm still looking at the script, want to do the forums?
  <tsimonq2> sure
  <pleia2> tsimonq2: http://princessleia.com/temp/462
  <pleia2> I don't know what happened, but it worked this time
  <pleia2> I haven't checked the links, so you'll still want to do that before posting to fridge
  <pleia2> I'll work on the wiki
  <tsimonq2> doing forums, somehow, NONE of the "In This Issue" articles came up...
  <tsimonq2> I blame myself :P
  <tsimonq2> oh duh, no liks for Forums
  <tsimonq2> *links
  <tsimonq2> just...today :P
  <pleia2> I can regenerate that one too if you need
  <pleia2> we do want a list of in this issue, but no links
  <tsimonq2> alright
  <tsimonq2> I'll run some sed magic on the bullet points...
  <pleia2> just wait a moment please
  <pleia2> tsimonq2: http://princessleia.com/temp/462/
  <pleia2> that should be everything you need
  <pleia2> generated properly
  <pleia2> no need for sed magic
  <tsimonq2> thanks :)
  <tsimonq2> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2320926
  <pleia2> thanks, wiki is done, I'll do email while you work on testing fridge links
  <tsimonq2> alright
  <pleia2> then I'll copy your fridge html w/ fixed links for discourse
  <tsimonq2> k
  <tsimonq2> published
  <pleia2> looks good, copying over for discourse
  <tsimonq2>  \o/ emails sending out
  <tsimonq2> s/sending/receiving/
  <tsimonq2> wording is important ;)
  <tsimonq2> oh jeez, I just need to sleep :|
  <pleia2> tsimonq2: fridge is showing to issue 462 posts in the post queue, did you start one earlier?
  <pleia2> one is published and the other is a draft
  <tsimonq2> then nuke draft if you could, I think I did but it was being weird, so yeah
  <pleia2> ok
  <tsimonq2> everything else is done?
  <pleia2> I think so
  <tsimonq2> you did wiki and emails...1-3?
  <tsimonq2> on it!
  <pleia2> ok, discourse is done
  <pleia2> in the middle of 1
  <pleia2> so don't create another page, or the wiki will be very confused
  <pleia2> ugh, edit conflicts
  <tsimonq2> no no no no no no noooooooo
  <tsimonq2> gosh darnit
  <tsimonq2>  /o\
  <pleia2> please slow down :)
  <pleia2> alright, sorted and icons are there
  <pleia2> oh, but it didn't take my 16.04 template change
  <pleia2> tsimonq2: can you edit the Issue463 manually to add the 16.04 edits from the template?
  <tsimonq2> oh that's right, that's a thing, sure
  <pleia2> the template is up to date, but I think your version of the page was created before I had saved it
  <tsimonq2> yeah
  <pleia2> and I reverted my page creation back to yours after the conflicts
  <pleia2> thanks :)
  <tsimonq2> off to bed for me, thank you for your patience, night
  <pleia2> have a good night
  <tsimonq2> you too :)
  #ubuntu-news 2016-04-20
  <tsimonq2> pleia2: \o/ Ars Technica article featuring Ubuntu
  <pleia2> it's been known to happen :)
  <tsimonq2> pleia2: worth adding in UWN? how-to featuring Ubuntu...
  <pleia2> you can add it to the press section and we'll evaluate later
  <tsimonq2> k
  #ubuntu-news 2016-04-21
  <pleia2> adding release announcement to fridge
  <pleia2> and there it is
  <jose> \i/
  <jose> \o/*
  <pleia2> :)
  <pleia2> tsimonq2: think you can work on collecting news from the planet?
  <pleia2> I'll dig up news from elsewhere
  <pleia2> just having an overwhelming week over here as it is, Ubuntu LTS release is another sack on top of that :)
  <pleia2> looks like there was no community Q&A this week, just jcastro's release edition juju office hours (added to doc, will need a summary basic)
  #ubuntu-news 2016-04-22
  <tsimonq2> *yawn* woke up from nap, been told Y has a name, then I have some homework, so maybe later but no promises, I have a lot of homework
  <tsimonq2> pleia2: I'll work on making sure that the articles are good on the document, then all you have to do is check over and send out to summary writers
  <tsimonq2> good meaning present
  <pleia2> tsimonq2: can you add articles from the planet? else I'll take care of it
  <pleia2> but I'm collecting other news, and have a ton else on my plate tonight
  <tsimonq2> k there
  <tsimonq2> pleia2: flavor release announcements - where do those go?
  <tsimonq2> pleia2: with general news maybe?
  <pleia2> tsimonq2: official ones from the flavors themselves? we don't typically put them in
  <tsimonq2> pleia2: oh? why not, just curious?
  <pleia2> tsimonq2: I recommend searching through the archives for the last UWN that had a release in it to see how we've done things
  <tsimonq2> pleia2: alright I'll do that, thank you
  <pleia2> tsimonq2: not all flavors have them, some are delayed or hard to link to, it ends up looking messy and incomplete
  <tsimonq2> alright
   * tsimonq2 is just a little biased because I wrote the Lubuntu one, but makes total sense :)
  <pleia2> yeah, I'm usually involved with writing the Xubuntu one
  <tsimonq2> but I wrote it all myself the night before ;)
  <tsimonq2> (not smart, but I was tasked :P)
  <pleia2> happens all the time
  <tsimonq2> pleia2: https://s3hh.wordpress.com/2016/04/20/lxd-image-updates/ good for planet? thought I'd double-check with you.
  <pleia2> tsimonq2: too distracted right now, want to just add it and I'll sort through them later? feel free to leave a comment saying you're not sure about it so I can pay particular attention :)
  <tsimonq2> alright, that's fine pleia2 :)
  <pleia2> thank you
  <tsimonq2> planet links done, collecting general release articles
  #ubuntu-news 2016-04-23
  <tsimonq2> pleia2: gone from early tomorrow morning to Sunday afternoon, just an FYI
  <pleia2> tsimonq2: ok, I'm not sure about my schedule yet, prep for trip means I may actually be around tomorrow, but I'll definitely be back by Sunday night to prep for editors
  <tsimonq2> alright
  <tsimonq2> then when I get back Sunday I'll ensure summaries are good to go
  <pleia2> thank you :)
  <tsimonq2> so you are ready to send off to editors when you get back
  <tsimonq2> np
  <pleia2> enjoy your time afk
  <pleia2> hopefully it's for fun ;)
  <tsimonq2> yeah, going up north, we have a couple campers and no cellular service or WiFi ;)
  <tsimonq2> if you don't mind me asking, where are you off to?
  <pleia2> nice
  <pleia2> Austin, for the OpenStack Summit
  <tsimonq2> oh I've been hearing bits and pieces about that
  <tsimonq2> have fun :)
  <pleia2> thanks, hope to!
  <tsimonq2> then will you be around at the normal time for release on Monday?
  <pleia2> I'll likely want to do it myself quite late
  <tsimonq2> alright, that's fine :)
  <pleia2> so if you could check the document for any obvious mistakes during the day, that would be helpful (like, CamelCase, broken headers, random links inserted somewhere :P)
  <tsimonq2> I'll do my best :)
  <tsimonq2> pleia2: anything else I need to do before I head off for the night? (went to bed at 1 AM last night and woke up at 5...)
  <pleia2> going to pull the ars article, they do cover ubuntu here and there, and it is too much of a how-to
  <tsimonq2> alright
  <pleia2> tsimonq2: nope, have a good evening, and camping!
  <tsimonq2> thanks :)
  <pleia2> ok, dropping the lxd one too
  <pleia2> newsletter is loooong
  <pleia2> sent to summary writers
  #ubuntu-news 2017-04-18
  <tsimonq2> Two-week issue.
  <tsimonq2> You think that it'd be a bigger news release because of the release, but if you guessed that, you guessed wrong.
  <tsimonq2> Plus, I just didn't get to it this week.
  #ubuntu-news 2017-04-19
  <guiverc_t> tsimonq2, re: release weeks, at least twice I've seen pleia note the lack of news on release week in the time I've been involved
  <tsimonq2> guiverc_t: Ok
  <tsimonq2> guiverc_t: ack
  <tsimonq2> :)
  <guiverc_t> clarification on my last:  my count likely include rc|testing releases  [count otherwise is a high % of...]
  <jose> 'ello. Marius Nestor from Softpedia has reached out to me since none of his Softpedia news covering Ubuntu have been included in UWN. any specifics why?
  <PaulW2U> looks like that its just the last three issues - #502/3/4
  <PaulW2U> as both #500 and #501 included softpedia articles
  <PaulW2U> tsimonq2: guiverc_t do either of you use liferea? let me know if you want my feedlist
  <PaulW2U> as it includes all the regular sources that I used to use
  <jose> Marius just told me he's writing a new article about ubuntu and gnome
  <pleia2> yeah, the reason is just UWN staff turnover, different people are collecting the news now
  <PaulW2U> I've just updated the prep doc with everything I can find from my usual sources
  <PaulW2U> jose: 6 softpedia links for issue 505
  <jose> hehe I'll pass it on, thanks! :)
  <tsimonq2> PaulW2U: I used to.
  <tsimonq2> jose: Oh? It certainly wasn't intentional. Marius is a nice guy!
  <tsimonq2> PaulW2U: Pass it my way? :)
  <PaulW2U> tsimonq2: I'll email you the xml file later, just import it into liferea
  <tsimonq2> PaulW2U: OK :)
  <guiverc> PaulW2U, yep.  liferea is a favorite program for me...
  <guiverc> jose - re: softpedia; probably mostly me selecting articles, so my fault.. (issue numbers by Paul confirm I think)  ...
  <guiverc> specifics as to why I can't say - comments (my thinking) will have been deleted weeks ago from gdoc...
  <tsimonq2> guiverc: It happens... :)
  <guiverc> :) & thanks @ tsimonq2
  #ubuntu-news 2017-04-20
  <guiverc> looked in gdoc history; .. before pasting to gdoc I work in local file but its stored in non-backed up folder so can't see history.   issue #503 had a softpedia article in blogo (not news) before going to summary writers... it isn't there in final though
  <guiverc> re: dropped #503 article - reason found; in comments I recommended it be dropped due url that referred to 17.04 as Wily Werewolf  .. another agreed and dropped it..
  #ubuntu-news 2017-04-21
  <guiverc> adding LoCo events ... I think they should list dates in UWN to save people from having to open links... looking at random old issues on wiki thought; I can't find any with dates.. dates are in loco.ubuntu.com/events/ so easily added; we could also just have aforementioned url event-table for more details etc.
  <tsimonq2> guiverc: ack
  <guiverc> ack?
  <tsimonq2> guiverc: Acknowledgement.
  <guiverc> pasting email right now   -  but I think I see reason for ack.  (ack > nak)
  <tsimonq2> :)
  <guiverc> just had heart-attack .... summary email arrived in my gmail acccount; with bcc's visible  WTF??  thankfully only b/c it's sending account.
  #ubuntu-news 2017-04-22
  <tsimonq2> guiverc: :)
  #ubuntu-news 2017-04-23
  <jose> working on membership board announcement for fridge
  <tsimonq2> jose: gracias
  <jose> np
  #ubuntu-news 2018-04-16
  <krytarik> Then I'll go to bed now and let you plug along with the list. :)
  <krytarik> I've been awake for 24 hours now...
  <krytarik> Mainly just because it's also a rather unfortunate time to get at 2 AM in the night though.. :P
  <Wild_Man> night
  <Bashing-om> krytarik: Thanks heaps for your guidance and hand holding - this day :)
  <krytarik> Ugh, in fact it also carried over the full history of the template page though, so maybe just copy the stuff from the raw view and create a new page with it.
  <krytarik> Sure, you two also do lots of things I hope I can build on. :)
  <pleia2> did you copy the IssueTemplate or use the wiki template feature?
  <pleia2> copying will bring in history, built in template feature will not
  <pleia2> Wild_Man: btw, where the wiki page says "Welcome to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue ### for the week of April 8 - 14, 2018." you want to replace ### with the issue number, some of the scripts rely upon this
  <krytarik> Wild_Man: So guess the proper workflow from now is: delete the current page, visit  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue523  where it then asks if you want to create a new page, and the select the page template we have from there.
  <pleia2> ++
  <krytarik> pleia2: Yeah, I also just figured out how the template system works there. :P
  <pleia2> :D
  <Wild_Man> okay, thanks pleia2
  <krytarik> And yes, indeed a missing issue number would be horrible on many ways and that too. :P
  <krytarik> Eh, can't speeell anymore..
  <krytarik> Wild_Man: Seriously, please recreate the page following the steps I outlined, rather than editing the current one any further.
  <Wild_Man> I just deleted it
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, even with it delete when I click on the address and it brings it up it shows revision history for everyone all the way back to 2009
  <pleia2> hold down ctrl and shift when you refresh
  <pleia2> it's just cached
  <pleia2> (it is gone)
  <Wild_Man> okay
  <Wild_Man> pleia2, what he wants to get rid of I believe is the edit history so it looks clean but I see edit history going way back, do you see the same when you click on info?
  <krytarik> I don't see an option to pull in a template on creating a new page now though - other than copy-pasting from the template yourself.. :P
  <Wild_Man> I do not either
  <pleia2> when you load up the empty page, just search for "IssueTemplate"
  <pleia2> then click on "UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/IssueTemplate"
  <pleia2> that will copy the issue template into a new, empty page
  <pleia2> you do this instead of selecting "Create new empty page"
  <Wild_Man> thanks please that worked
  <Wild_Man> pleia2,
  <krytarik> Oh heh!  On the page where you are also just offered to create an empty page at the top.. >_>
   * pleia2 nods
  <krytarik> I never paid particular attention to the list there.. :P
  <pleia2> hehe
  <krytarik> Wild_Man abandoned the page creation for now it seems.. :P
  <Bashing-om> If nothing else I can do, going back to my regularly scheduled support :)
  <krytarik> Multitask between #ubuntu & co and lending Wild_Man a hand when he reappears, I'd think would be nice. :)
  <Wild_Man> I have it recreated I think, I have to eat real quick
  <Bashing-om> krytarik: Wild_Man I pop back up "on demand" :P
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, ok, you can see this right https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue523
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Yepper .. page loaded .
  <krytarik> Heh, it doesn't actually kill the history even now though, it just refilled the page content back up.. >_>
  <krytarik> Wild_Man: So sorry for trying the obvious route first, now we'll just have to live with what we got. :P
  <Wild_Man> history goes back to like 2009
  <Wild_Man> np
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: History ? All I see is the template and "contents" .
  <pleia2> if the template was indeed used this time, it could be because of the deletion/recreation cycle, it just kept it :(
  <Wild_Man> wiki is a strange animal
  <pleia2> if you look at past issues, it worked fine
  <pleia2> just be sure to use the template on the first try with the next issue ;)
  <Wild_Man> I did this time I just messed up the title and had to rename it
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, was hoping to not show that history of renaming
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, ok
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: loaded https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue523 and I do not see a history .. should I login to see an effect ?
  <krytarik> Well, apparently the shuffling of the page location wasn't logged there either.
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, no that is fine I just wanted to make sure the page showed up
  <krytarik> Bashing-om: Click on "Info" at the top.
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: K .. back in lurk mode .
  <Wild_Man> you will have to be logged in to see the info i think
  <krytarik> No.
  <krytarik> I know because I'm usually never logged in and always see the history. :P
  <Wild_Man> I am always logged in so I just thought we had to be to see it
  <krytarik> Heh, "always logged in to the wiki" is not something I hear often.. :P
  <Bashing-om> sounds like Wild_Man is addicted :)
  <krytarik> Anyway, enough screwing up at the wiki for now - g'night!
  <krytarik> Sounds like he is editing the wiki all the time. :D
  <krytarik> So should have tons of experience by now! \o/
  <Wild_Man> What I mean is when I click on a wiki page I am logged in but I do not click on them very often
  <Wild_Man> pleia2, under in this issue, so I list just one of the topics in the general community section or all of them?
  <Wild_Man> so/do
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: No news is good news .. any way I can help ?
  <Wild_Man> tsimonq2, you around?
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I am afraid for us both to be editing the wiki at the same time, I do not think it works as well as gdocs
  <Wild_Man> if you want to give it a go I will take a break that is for sure
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: That is why I did not signin .. as had that same thought .
  <Wild_Man> I can save it and you can take over a few minutes is you want too
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: What is it that "we" are then doing ? I am all for learning what to do .
  <Wild_Man> right now I am adding what will be in this issue, I am comparing it to older issues to get a better understanding
  <Wild_Man> once that is done it will be pretty eassy to copy and paste
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Sure .. I do as I can . Not much going on in support .
  <Wild_Man> I was thinking about coping and pasting from gdocs then go back to what is in this issue
  <Wild_Man> I have saved it, look at an old news letter for reference, I click on the edit of the old one to help with syntax, like for bullets use the * but you have to indent it four spaces
  <Wild_Man> brb
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: You mean that we are manually c/p from https://docs.google.com/document/d/18ZbtFHQq6uMj7iuRLd11VH8V5Uc_FA0IfgiRUcbMbQk/edit to wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue523 ???
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, yes but you have to use an old one and compare the two to make sure the formatting is correct for each piece you paste, I would paste a small piece then preview it and make sure is is formatted correctly
  <Wild_Man> I know moin does not like more then one person at a time editing it
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: And again ,, I have no experience with formatting in the wiki .. will be a slow learning process :(
  <Wild_Man> me to basically, I just learn as I go
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Trying to signin now .. not looking good for the home team :(
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: OK ! I am at the ubuntu wiki HOME page. what to do to load the working template ?
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, it is here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue523 give me a minute I am going to post the loco events I ran the script and have the results
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: When I go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue523 ; I have a blank document in my browser .
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, try now!
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: ack .. will advise .
  <Wild_Man> I was working on it, I think that is why
  <Wild_Man> I am doing pretty good
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, how you doing?
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: I am so lost ! .. I still have a blank template . Do I not need to signin and go through the ubuntu wiki HOME page ??
  <Wild_Man> no you should be able to just click the link you posted, that is what I did and it worked
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, may clear the cache on that page by going to more actions
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: My well being .. I have a pounding headache .. and my back hurts :(
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, do not worry about it tonight I will continue, I am doing good at the moment
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: After the cache clear ,,, I now have "loco events" of 18.04 .. I presune as the result of a script -- but that is all .
  <Bashing-om> presume*
  <Bashing-om> aspirin ! will be good for the effort .
  <Wild_Man> that is because I am working the page I think give me a minute I will save it then clear cache and try
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I saved it and stopped working try now please
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: ack
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, did not work?
  <Wild_Man> I do not understand all these shot three letters
  <Wild_Man> shot/short
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: What I see in a screen shot : http://i.imgur.com/q6suOv6.png .
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, that is it, you have to remember it is a work in progress
  <Wild_Man> I have added all that so far
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: But -- you had advised you had been copying and pasteing from gdoc .. I see nothing from gdoc .
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, no I said I was thinking about it and when you said you were going to take over I said you can copy and paste from gdoc
  <Wild_Man> I will take a break a few minutes and you can do that, look at my messages above to see how I suggested you do it
  <Wild_Man> I will be right here
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: I give it my best.
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, good enough
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Still to this time I can not login (immutable page) . click sighin and that takes me to the ubuntu wuku home page .. on this page I am lost as to how to get to the wiki we are editing .
  <Bashing-om> wiki*
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, it should sign you in, it always directs you away from the page you were on now go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue523
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: there .
  <Wild_Man> You will still be logged in after you click on that link
  <Wild_Man> moin is something but it gets easier
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, you are signed in and on that page right?
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Nope .. have " Immutable Page " . and if I cloik on signin takes me eventually to the ubuntu wiki HOME page . what other action than clicking signin is there ?
  <Wild_Man> it you go to the home page are you sign in
  <Wild_Man> it/when
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, ^^
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Yes, ok .. so I ask again .. from the home page how to I get the wiki page we are editing ??
  <Wild_Man> leave that page open then just click on the link above to the wiki page we are working on and you should stayed signed in. You should see your name close to the top of the page that means you are signed in
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: trying :)
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Yepper !  Making progress .
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, you doing okay?
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Up to;; .. the LoCo News section in the wiki . Moving real slow .. not checked my work to this time .
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, preview it and let me know
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Ouch ! A lot of " Edit conflict - other version:" . Not seen what I can do about it !
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, that is why I said do one little piece at a time the check it
  <Wild_Man> bhave you saved it yet?
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: No O have not saved it .. this is the 3rd section .
  <Bashing-om> no I have not *
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, is it looking better? I can not see it until it is saved but if it is real bad you can cancel it before it is saved
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: click cancel or try and see what the issue is ?
  <Wild_Man> If you want me to look save it
  <Wild_Man> but then it can not be canceled but I am sure we can fix it
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: At this point I am the more comfortable to cancel .. is no big deal to redo the c/p . family dramma at this time .. lemme attend to family . canceling out.
  <Wild_Man> ok thanks Bashing-om
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: and now logged out of the wiki
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, okay, you going to hang around?
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Yeah ,, back when things here settle out .
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I have a lot of done now
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: You the man :) Moving right on along .. I be back at your back .
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I am done for the night if you are up to it will you check all the links and make sure they work
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: That I can do :)
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, Thanks!
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: A quick look and looks good . checking links now .
  <Wild_Man> It still needs a little work, what is in this issue needs to be finished but I am to tired tonight
  <Wild_Man> Krytarik the wiki is mostly done, "what is in this issue needs finished"
  <Wild_Man> Info from askubuntu and I could not find unconfirmed bugs info, I did not try to compare previous +- bugs because the last news letter 17.10 was in dev or just released
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-ko/3733-ubuntu-18.04-lts-release-party-@-busan/ does not complete .
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, can you remove and save?
  <Wild_Man> If not just post the ones that do not work here and krytarik or I will remove them tomorrow
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Yeah will do  ..#2 http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-ko/3729-ubuntu-18.04-lts-release-party-@-seoul/ . ) does not like the @ ??
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, without glasses I can barely see so I it needs removed please do so.
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I copied them right out of the terminal after running the command
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, be my guess that some of those loco teams no longer exist
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, the other links or working with the @ so it is not that
  <Wild_Man> or/are
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Is a long process to verify the links .. am up to "Ubuntu 16.04 Updates" and taking a short finger rest break .
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I know, there is a lot of them
  <Wild_Man> I think there will be less next time since we are doing weekly
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: So far with 3 DNE's .. loco all .. maybe I see what is up prior to removing the loco entries .
  <Wild_Man> okay thanks
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Meeds to be done anyway .. just dewww eeeett .
  <Wild_Man> if I could not run a script to get them they would not be there at all
  <Wild_Man> soooo many!
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: That's a good idea ! back to verifying .
  <Bashing-om> links verified up to "Ubuntu 17.10 Updates" Break time !
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, thanks good work!
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: thought you had called it for this session :P
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I am relaxing with my wife, no more work, going to bed soon
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: My other half has hit the sheets . I got to be up at OH dark thirty but will finish what is on the plate !
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, thanks! do not over do it.
  <Bashing-om> Fixed the 3 Korean loco links and all links are all verified ! - NEXT - ??
  <Bashing-om> Calling it a night and catching 2 Zs - will pick this back up in about 5 hours .
  <krytarik> Bashing-om: Yeah, there is something funky about the '@' in the Korean LoCo's event links, nice you could figure it out too.  And I don't think we're supposed to check all the update links.. :D
  <krytarik> ...Well, at least not manually anyway.
  <krytarik> Heh, looks like Wild_Man accidentally killed the template. :D
  <krytarik> Reverted.
  <krytarik> Oh, forgot the camelCase check..
  <Bashing-om> krytarik: making progress ... moving on along . next for me ?
  <krytarik> Morning.  Nothing yet I guess, the wiki page is ready so far, and publishing is a bit later today.
  <Bashing-om> krytarik: HoKay :)
  <krytarik> Could have a look at the changes I've done there though. :)
  <krytarik> Basically a bunch of formatting fixes, and then the issue summary.
  <Bashing-om> krytarik: Got to run to towm .. a few minutes will and look soon .
  <Bashing-om> Looking now at what we have produced.
  <Bashing-om> By Golly ! .. I think we dooodd it . I am proud for us .
  <Wild_Man> hello krytarik, it is published correct? I can put it on the forum now?
  <krytarik> No, it's not published yet - I just dropped the 'work in progress' bit already because the wiki page is basically done.
  <krytarik> Otoh, I'm not sure why we shouldn't just start now.. :)
  <Bashing-om> krytarik: Wild_Man Me not know much .. but looked good to me .
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: By the way ,, I found the errors in those 3 Korea links and fixed .
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, okay! I left this in Security Team - 12 October 2017 - https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/10/12/security-team-weekly-summary-october-12-2017 even though it is old so we could move it to the gdoc so we can find it next time, do we leave it in the wiki or paste it to gdoc then remove ti?
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, nice! Thanks
  <Wild_Man> I assume it was not an error because of the copy and paste?
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: No .. upstream from there .. As it is a party notice, do not know that is worth the time to find out where it breaks .
  <krytarik> Wild_Man: Ugh, I didn't notice you carried those old ones over.. so please drop off the wiki, yes - not sure we want the March ones either, that is.
  <Bashing-om> krytarik: I failed there also to note old info :(
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, I did not carry it over they are already present so we can find the links easier next time. I just did not remove that one because it is not present in the gdoc
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, my thought is it is on the person that maintain the link to make sure it works on there end and not ours
  <Wild_Man> A lot of notes and some links are present in the template krytarik that is why it is there
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Quite possiblly .. we "could" drop an email to the originator .
  <krytarik> Wild_Man: Ah yeah, they seem to be in the template too - so yes, those that aren't in the Google Doc too, please copy over.
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, do you have time to copy that link I posted above to the gdoc?
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: I can sure make the time .. is gdoc cleared for the next issue ?
  <Wild_Man> I have to get my morning meal and take my vitamins.
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I do not think so I think it is left in place and we create a new one every time
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: I can move the insight link to gdoc and make a note to leave it .
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, there is a note in that section that says leave these links already
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Done .. awaiting however to set the date for the security team .
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, I was going to move all the links to the end if the wiki last night I just got to tired by the time I got it all put there
  <Wild_Man> it is looking ggod
  <Wild_Man> good
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, you can leave the old dates for that link in place but you have to copy them from the wiki if the link is still in the wiki, it was October 2017
  <krytarik> Wild_Man: Oh btw, you did pretty good work there. :)
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: K .. but my idea was to make it obvious there was OLD info in place .
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, thanks! since it is a template does it still go live when it is saved or is there something else that has to be done to publish it?
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, okay
  <krytarik> Wild_Man: That is, I was impressed it was almost all done when got up and looked at it.  Oh, and wrt the 'Unconfirmed' bug stats, I just did what the comments in the template say - search for all bugs with the 'New' status.
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Mind ya I do not know the re-new gdocs process if ya say but the date in .. I for sure will .
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, okay
  <krytarik> Wild_Man: You seem to be confusing the template with the actual issue right now - anyway, the issue wiki page is already live of course.
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, most of it was an way copy and paste from gdoc, I left that part to the last
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, I do not quite understand that
  <tsimonq2> This Week in Lubuntu Development #3 is coming out as soon as I'm done with it. Can I sneak it in? ;)
  <krytarik> Nope!
  <tsimonq2> :))
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, it is published?
  <krytarik> Wild_Man: Ok, well let's be even more clear and say 1.) the wiki page is already published, and just has to be linked in the various places, but 2.) it's not published to e.g. the Fridge either yet, similar to all the mail and social stuff.
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, right I just meant I can now post it to the forum?
  <krytarik> Yeah, I figure.
  <krytarik> Have got to start somewhere! :)
  <Wild_Man> I tsimonq2 is going to do the social media this time since I do not have access
  <Wild_Man> I/and
  <tsimonq2> Can y'all hold off for just like 30 minutes, unless you started the process already? ;)
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, to be honest linking it to other places I am not sure of those places
  <Wild_Man> I can wait
  <Wild_Man> not sure about krytarik it may be to late
  <tsimonq2> As long as you haven't done email yet, it's fine.
  <Wild_Man> no I do not think I have access to that, I my understanding you plan to do that this time
  <krytarik> Wild_Man: Well, it's barely evening here too. :)  And I still have got to go out even!  Also, all the stuff generated by the publishing script, plus the wiki pages mentioned here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/EditingPolicies - could start with that.
  <krytarik> Also, I've just overhauled the update scripts too.. >_>
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, I have to leave soon as well, I have a couple of appointments
  <krytarik> Yes, since I'm just done with the above, I'm about to leave for a bit now too. :)
  <Wild_Man> tsimonq2, do you leave some of the letter out when you post to the forum because of the issue sometimes the posts are to long and can not be posted? I knew this could happen but I thought for the letter it was not an issue anymore
  <Wild_Man> tsimonq2, I think I figured it out
  <tsimonq2> OK
  <tsimonq2> whoops
  <tsimonq2> https://lubuntu.me/this-week-in-lubuntu-development-3/
  <krytarik> Somebody could already start over on the Google Doc with this.. :)
  <Wild_Man> tsimonq2, does not work in source mode either
  <Wild_Man> tsimonq2, suggestions? I posted to ask the admins but I am doubt they have an answer
  <tsimonq2> Wild_Man: I can take care of it if you give me a min.
  <krytarik> Wild_Man: You did run the publishing script on it yet however, didn't you?
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, yes I did
  <krytarik> And what error message do you get there now?
  <Wild_Man> it looks good but the forum has rules against posts that are to long
  <Wild_Man> the script is working perfect
  <Wild_Man> forum security software is the issue
  <krytarik> I thought you'd circumvent those by being a staff member though?
  <Wild_Man> no the rules apply to me too
  <Wild_Man> that is why we post the wireless script to pastebin most of the time
  <Wild_Man> I could leave out some links in the letter then it would probably post
  <Wild_Man> I am curious how tsimonq2 will get it done
  <Wild_Man> he has been able to do it in the past
  <krytarik> Wild_Man: You haven't dropped the Oct 2017 link from the meeting section yet though.
   * tsimonq2 cracks knuckles
  <krytarik> And like I said, I'd drop the March ones too.
  <tsimonq2> What issue is this?
  <tsimonq2> (number)
  <krytarik> 523
  <Wild_Man> I thought Bashing-om did it ooops!
  <tsimonq2> kthx
  <Wild_Man> do I have time before tsimonq2 runs the script
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Sorry . I be a gofer, you did not direct me to take that action :)
  <tsimonq2> Wild_Man: I can rerun it.
  <tsimonq2> Do you need me to after you make an edit?
  <tsimonq2> krytarik: Pushed a helpful commit. Git pull, pl0x.
  <Wild_Man> tsimonq2, give me a minute, after I remove the links it might be small enough to go on the forum
  <krytarik> tsimonq2: Hehe yeah, that's a good idea.. :D
  <krytarik> tsimonq2: Also just noticed in this context, we should make the 'code' page default to the Git repos.. :)
  <tsimonq2> krytarik: code> doeeeeeeeetttttttttttt :)
  <tsimonq2> Wild_Man: OK.
  <tsimonq2> Wild_Man: Actually... wait wat O_o
  <tsimonq2> Wild_Man: Can you not, please :)
  <Wild_Man> tsimonq2, sorry I just removed the one link already.
  <tsimonq2> I haven't regenerated it yet.
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, I did not see any links from March
  <krytarik> Wild_Man: Well, it's right there..
  <Wild_Man> tsimonq2, you can regenerate it now, I just removed one link but krytarik says there are links from March he may want to remove it
  <tsimonq2> OK
  <tsimonq2> gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
  <tsimonq2> Your submission could not be processed because a security token was missing.
  <tsimonq2> If this occurred unexpectedly, please inform the administrator and describe the action you performed before you received this error. If possible, please include the error page URL plus the date and time the error occured.
  <Wild_Man> Like I said not eye glasses so I am having trouble seeing at the moment
  <tsimonq2> Tip : Please shorten long posts by using https://paste.ubuntu.com/ for terminal and log output and link to it in your posts.
  <tsimonq2> Ubuntu Forums
  <Wild_Man> I know but we do not do that for the letter do we?
  <krytarik> "Sorry about that, Ubuntu Forums." :D
  <Wild_Man> I know this was an issue for liz for a while
  <krytarik> Wild_Man: Tbh, if you can't see the two March links right above where you just removed the Oct 2017 one, I'm fine with that too..  At least they're from this year! :P
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, I totally did not see them
  <krytarik> And we didn't do any issue this year so far, soo.. :)
  <Wild_Man> tsimonq2, I know about pastebin but I did not think we do that for the letter when we post it
  <Wild_Man> I have looked for my glasses every where I can think of but they have been missing for six weeks
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, is there a way for the scripts that we use to get all those links to confirm they are working links otherwise they do not print them?
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Behind the seat of the Pick-Up :)
  <krytarik> I'd just drop the 'updates' section with the billions of link and put a note there instead.
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, LOL
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, you mean to post it on the forum?
  <krytarik> Wild_Man: Well, I was going to mention earlier, at least the ones in the 'updates' section are pulled directly from the mailing list archive pages, so they should be fine.
  <krytarik> Yes, I mean to get over the security hurdle there - I mean they are a lot! :P
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Sitting before this diaplay, I manage nicely to see with "readers" from the Dollar Store .
  <Wild_Man> Yes there is!
  <Bashing-om> display*
  <Wild_Man> I bought a pair from the store here but I guess I bought the wrong ones I have to hold the laptop in a certain place to see it so it is not feasible
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I get free glasses from the VA so I just have to wait for my appointment
  <krytarik> Wild_Man: So one could instead just link there to e.g.: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue523#Updates_and_Security_for_14.04.2C_16.04.2C_and_17.10 - or even do that for the subsections.
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, we might have to do that, tsimonq2 is working on it so we will see what he comes up with
  <krytarik> Or only do it for the normal updates, and leave the security ones there.
  <Wild_Man> I have to go I will check on the progress when I get back
  <Bashing-om> I am starting to work up sources for next week's letter .
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, is there a way to make the link I add for to the forum go to Updates for 17.10 only and I can leave the rest of the links in ?
  <Wild_Man> What I tried failed
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, you here?
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Here :)
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, Rick just replied to my pm he is going to help us starting about the 1st of May
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Good man Rick .. Real glad he feels up to it . We need all the help we can get ,
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I am glad too
  <krytarik> Wild_Man: Yes, like I suggested, keep the security updates as it is, but drop the direct links off all three sections for the normal updates, and replace them each with e.g.: "Please see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue523#Ubuntu_14.04_Updates"
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, I did not really want to drop all of them they help to fill out the letter even though I think they are ugly, I did drop 17.10 and added the link you suggested that was the best I could, I think it is good enough, next time I do not think it will be as long since it will only be a week worth of updates
  <Wild_Man> I have it posted to the forum
  <Bashing-om> Look'n !!
  <Wild_Man> I have to fix something to eat real quick I missed my meal
  <Bashing-om> \o/
  <krytarik> Wild_Man: No, the way the scripts work anyway, is that they always pull the updates from the whole month so far - no idea if it was amended in the past issues though.  And you decided to just drop the updates on the most recent release, yes..? :D
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, I am trying to leave as much content as possible so it will have a fuller look if I remove all the update section it is going to look bare
  <Wild_Man> I am not really happy with either option
  <krytarik> Well yeah, thinking about it this way, I guess an empty section in the middle would look a bit odd indeed. :P
  <Wild_Man> No good option in my opinion
  <krytarik> Wild_Man: So do you want to do steps 20-24 on EditingPolicies with me in the meantime then? :)  I already looked at what that really means.
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, to do you have access to the mailing list?
  <Wild_Man> I am looking now
  <Wild_Man> I have the page open reviewing
  <krytarik> I'm not subscribed to either mailing list yet, no.
  <krytarik> Basically it refers all to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, yes I can do 20 and 21 or if you are busy I can do them all
  <krytarik> I'd like the second option. :D  I'm also taking dinner right now.
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, okay!
  #ubuntu-news 2018-04-17
  <Wild_Man> tsimonq2, I have published the letter to the forum, I did try the mailing list but it failed, I figure I do not have the proper access
  <Wild_Man> pleia2, when you have time would you please give us access to the social media and the m/l? I assume that is why the m/l with the letter was rejected
  <krytarik> (..I already have got access to the first, but I didn't want to do social media.)
  <pleia2> krytarik already has access to all the social media stuff
  <pleia2> are you subscribed to the mailing list? I don't see anything in the queue
  <krytarik> I know for a fact that Wild_Man is used to doing this for the forums, so.. :)
  <krytarik> Yes, because it got rejected outright - I suspect content filter.
  <Wild_Man> I subscribed about 15 minutes ago then I sent the letter to the mailing list and it came back as rejected
  <pleia2> what email address did you send from?
  <Wild_Man> wildmanne39@ubuntu.com
  <Wild_Man> it may be an issue with that
  <pleia2> you're not a member of the mailing list
  <Wild_Man> I guess it is not showing up yet, I did not receive a reply after I signed up
  <Wild_Man> should I have received a reply?
  <pleia2> yeah, you have confirm membership
  <pleia2> so random people can't just sign you up
  <Wild_Man> maybe it is just taking its time then
  <pleia2> check spam filter too? it shouldn't take long
  <Wild_Man> ok
  <Wild_Man> Okay I am a member now
  <pleia2> ok, try to send now
  <Wild_Man> still rejected
  <pleia2> can you forward me the rejection notice? lyz@ubuntu.com
  <Wild_Man> yes
  <pleia2> the mailing list is configured to hold messages from members for moderation, so I'm not sure what's happening :\
  <krytarik> I already thought earlier the size or the sheer amount of links today might matter..
  <Wild_Man> the message I doubt is helpful
  <pleia2> Wild_Man: can you forward me the entire email? not just the text, I know what the text is :)
  <Wild_Man> ok
  <Wild_Man> brb
  <pleia2> Wild_Man: sorry, not the UWN text, I'm asking for you to forward me the exact rejection notice that you got from the ubuntu news mailing list
  <pleia2> not just copying the rejection text into an email, forward the full rejection email
  <pleia2> I'm still not seeing your address as subscribed to the mailing list :\
  <Wild_Man> I just sent the full rejection there is not much there but when it came back the letter is as an attachment but that is not how I sent it
  <Wild_Man> does it take time for the servers to catch up?
  <pleia2> you subscribed to ubuntu-news-team, but not ubuntu-news
  <Wild_Man> okay
  <krytarik> ..Funny, at logging in to the Fridge's WP, I can't continue if the ubuntu-fridge team membership box isn't ticked - but it won't give me any access other than to my profile settings then anyway. :P
  <pleia2> Wild_Man: so you need to subscribe to ubuntu-news and then I can click the box to let your messages through automatically
  <pleia2> I can't do this until you subscribe though
  <Wild_Man> doing now
  <pleia2> krytarik: are you able to update social media? or share whatever is needed with others?
  <pleia2> I need to step out to run some errands before everything closes ;)
  <krytarik> Tbh, I didn't think of the latter option yet.. :P
  <krytarik> And yes, goo!
  <Wild_Man> I am signed up!
  <pleia2> still not showing up :( https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-news this one?
  <pleia2> you're definitely on ubuntu-news-team, but that's just for discussion, ubuntu-news is the one you need to be on in order to send/receive the newsletter itself
  <Wild_Man> pleia2, yes I signed yp but it may take a minute to show up, do what you need to and it will be here when you get back
  <pleia2> ah, you signed up with your gmail account
  <pleia2> you need to sign up with the ubuntu.com address if that's the one you want to send the newsletter from
  <Wild_Man> on my end it shows with the ubuntu one
  <Wild_Man> it does not matter
  <pleia2> ubuntu-news-team has the ubuntu address, ubuntu-news has the gmail account
  <pleia2> you want to send the newsletter from your gmail account?
  <Wild_Man> I sent them from both from thunderbird with the same settings
  <Wild_Man> yes that is okay
  <pleia2> I don't love it, but if you must
  <Wild_Man> I do not know why it did that but I do not have tome to figure it out this second
  <Wild_Man> I will work on it
  <pleia2> your gmail account can send to the list now
  <Wild_Man> Thanks
  <pleia2> any luck?
  <pleia2> ok, I actually do need to go out now ;) I'll check back upon my return if you're still having trouble with anything
  <Wild_Man> it has not been rejected yet
  <krytarik> Fwiw, I can't seem to log in to Facebook at all due to what seems to be an issue with it and Firefox currently - keeps on saying 'cookies required'...
  <tsimonq2> krytarik: Give it what it wants!
  <tsimonq2> Cookies are good.
  <tsimonq2> Especially chocolate chip.
  <tsimonq2> :P
  <krytarik> Well, they are enabled though.. :P
  <Bashing-om> Uuummmmm Chocolate Chip Cookies :D
  <Unit193> Oatmeal Raisin*
  <tsimonq2> Sugar cookies?
  <Wild_Man> tsimonq2, we have made progress with posting to the forum and I think the mailing list went through this time
  <tsimonq2> ok
  <Wild_Man> if you want me to do twitter in the future since krytarik does not have a twitter account let me know and we can set it up\
  <tsimonq2> krytarik has the ability to do Twitter.
  <Wild_Man> ok
  <pleia2> Wild_Man: you can always check the mailing list archives to check if it's been posted :) it has https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-news/
  <Wild_Man> pleia2, thanks
  <krytarik> Nobody has thought of or decided for 'claiming' the custom URL on Google+ yet..? :P
  <pleia2> you can't until you have a certain number of followers
  <pleia2> but look at that, we do now!
  <krytarik> Yes!
  <pleia2> done :)
  <krytarik> And here I thought 178 was little.. :P
  <pleia2> https://plus.google.com/+UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter
  <krytarik> Yeep! \o/
  <pleia2> could be they loosened the restrictions on it, when I claimed +Xubuntu we for sure had over 1000
  <krytarik> Oh yeah, that could be too.
  <Wild_Man> pleia2, do I have to join this list to send them email loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com
  <pleia2> yes
  <Wild_Man> thanks
  <pleia2> if you don't want to receive emails from the list, there's a setting for that after you subscribe
  <Wild_Man> ok
  <Wild_Man> pleia2, is this the one I need https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
  <pleia2> yes
  <Wild_Man> thanks
  <krytarik> Google+ certainly does an amount of caching there too.. :P
  <pleia2> Google+ is terrible
  <tsimonq2> Ditto.
  <krytarik> And while Wild_Man is gonna do Twitter after the mailing list, I still can't do Facebook nor the Fridge of course.
   * tsimonq2 punts to pleia2 
  <tsimonq2> I hate Facebook. :P
  <tsimonq2> I can do the Fridge.
  <pleia2> krytarik: would you like me to do facebook?
  <krytarik> pleia2: Well yes, since it doesn't appear to work with Firefox currently, and I can't technically use Chrome/ium either. :P
  <pleia2> ok, done
  <krytarik> Btw, since I'm just looking at the Fridge's front page again - was it used to be all monospace for the forwarded release announcements and such?
  <pleia2> no, I think guiverc uses the WYSIWYG editor to paste in the announcements from the mailing lists, so they don't have the native formatting that old posts have
  <guiverc> from lists.ubuntu & yeah I don't worry much about formatting
  <Wild_Man> pleia2, I posted to twitter, I think the format is right
  <Wild_Man> All M/L are done
  <guiverc> is there a wiki on formatting for fridge that anyone knows?  or is it markdown/wiki-like?
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Publishing complete ?
  <Wild_Man> I think so
  <Bashing-om> Then we can all get a good nights sleep :P
  <Wild_Man> I am going to relax, I have not even turned the tv on today
  <krytarik> I haven't watched TV for like 4 days now - but I'm pretty sure I didn't miss much either.. :P
  <pleia2> guiverc: it's HTML
  <Bashing-om> Somebody break out the champaign ( Chocolate Chip Cookies goes well ) :P
  <pleia2> congrats everyone :)
  <Wild_Man> when I sent out the emails for the summary writers there was an email in there that said something like reply to this email address if you need to contact us, is it possible some writers have been replying to that address and no one has looked?
  <Wild_Man> \o/
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, to put the stuff from gdoc into the wiki you just need to copy and paste it into the proper section and it should be formatted correctly
  <Wild_Man> pleia2, when do we start a new gdoc?
  <pleia2> you just delete the stuff from the existing gdoc and start over
  <pleia2> don't delete the headings ;) just the articles
  <Wild_Man> okay that is what I wonder as well, I for sure was going to leave the headings or I would be lost
  <pleia2> Wild_Man: the ubuntu news gmail account?
  <pleia2> I don't remember what email address is referenced in the email
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: copy paste for the most part . only bit of formnatting I recall is the summary heading inclosed between 3 dashes. na ofcourse spacing between entries .
  <Wild_Man> pleia2, says editors email account
  <pleia2> I'll look at the doc
  <Wild_Man> it is the one with the summary writers email addresses
  <pleia2> ah, editor.ubuntu.news@ubuntu.com
  <pleia2> no one has emailed that account, I do check it
  <Wild_Man> okay thanks, I had three yeses and one new person is going to start the first of next month
  <pleia2> that's good to hear :)
  <Wild_Man> indeed!
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: What browser are you running ?? I am presently using chromium and had to install 2 plugins for c/p to gdoc .
  <Wild_Man> I am using FF
  <pleia2> I'm using Chrome and never had a problem c/p to/from gdocs
  <Wild_Man> you copy and paste the heading and all the contest under that heading and it should be formatted perfectly
  <Wild_Man> it was all the other stuff that took me a while last night
  <Bashing-om> pleia2: After I got the plugins installed both gdoc and chromiun were happy to cooperate .
  <Wild_Man> I need to take some meds
  <pleia2> Wild_Man: sometimes that's how I feel after publishing UWN too ;)
  <krytarik> Wild_Man: Speaking of all the other stuff, please "git pull" again on the script repo.
  <Wild_Man> ok
  <krytarik> ..Pahaha. :D
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, we did not miss publishing anywhere did we?
  <Wild_Man> happy days, I just received another reply yes from a summary writer
  <krytarik> Wild_Man: tsimonq2 is gonna do the Fridge he said, but otherwise nah.
  <Wild_Man> That is what I thought but I wanted to make sure there is a lot of details to check when publishing as I learned today
  <krytarik> Which fwiw, is the source I personally get the UWN from.. :P
  <krytarik> Well, at least you subscribed to all the mailing lists today..  And I didn't have to yet! \o/
  <krytarik> So next time it'll be much less time-consuming.
  <Wild_Man> very true
  <tsimonq2> krytarik: Wanna take Fridge?
  <krytarik> tsimonq2: ...Unless you magically made my account there anything more than dumb, I can't still. :P
  <tsimonq2> krytarik: Have you cleared your cache?
  <krytarik> Well, it was like this right from the start - and as I noticed just earlier, one can't even log in without being in and ticking the appropriate team.
  <krytarik> To be clear, I can log in but I only get the profile settings then.
  <krytarik> (And yes, I just also cleared the cache.)
  <guiverc> krytarik: i have to add a /wpmin something to get more options (note: i'm no expert - i just follow notes)
  <krytarik> Yes, of course one has to append "wp-admin/" to get there in the first place.
  <krytarik> I'm currently looking at the dashboard, that is. :)
  <pleia2> krytarik: did you submit a ticket?
  <krytarik> Not in the last 1.5 days yet, no.
  <pleia2> ok
  <krytarik> I seem to have been busy enough as is already. :P
  <pleia2> no worries, just wanted to make sure you weren't stuck or anything
  <tsimonq2> pleia2: Could I please get a peer review? http://ubuntu-news.org/2018/04/17/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-523/
  <tsimonq2> I haven't done this in months, ya know. ;)
  <pleia2> hehe
   * pleia2 has a look
  <pleia2> ltgm, all links check out
  <tsimonq2> \o/
  <Wild_Man> sounds like we passed?
  <tsimonq2> Looks like it. :)
  <pleia2> yes, gold stars all around!
  <Wild_Man> :)
  <Bashing-om> :)
  <krytarik> pleia2: https://rt.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=28954 - this is the one about the previous occasion I mentioned btw.
  <pleia2> interesting, 2016 is after they revoked our access and told us they wouldn't give it back x_x
  <krytarik> Yes, that's what I was particularly thinking of here.
  <pleia2> but now that I look at it, we do have admin on xubuntu.org
  <pleia2> curious
  <krytarik> Yes. :D
  <Bashing-om> pleia2: krytarik :; Sharpening our tools are we ?
  <krytarik> More like looking for the lost marbles..
  <Bashing-om> LOL ...
  <Bashing-om> I jave little marbles to loose .. so I sure got to find some .
  * tsimonq2 changed the topic of #ubuntu-news to: The Ubuntu News Channel - You report it, we publish it! [M
  <tsimonq2> C[M
  <tsimonq2> C[M
  <tsimonq2> C[M
  <tsimonq2> C[M
  <tsimonq2> C[M
  <tsimonq2> I *suck* at this.
  <tsimonq2> Argh.
  <tsimonq2> Bear with me, lol.
  <Wild_Man> takes practice
  <Wild_Man> I do not use op's often
  <pleia2> tsimonq2: pro tip: use the chanserv topic command and then no one knows who is doing it, or messing up ;)
  * tsimonq2 changed the topic of #ubuntu-news to: The Ubuntu News Channel - You report it, we publish it! Serving the Fridge, Ubuntu Weekly News, and other fine publications. | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewsTeam | Current UWN Prep: http://bit.ly/vDkJyf
  <tsimonq2> That double space has been annoying me. :P
  <pleia2> lol
  <tsimonq2> pleia2: chanserv> But that's no fun. :P
  <tsimonq2> Also, first topic update in 3.5 years \o/
   * Bashing-om likey \o/
  <krytarik> You just wanted to have your name on it! :(
  <tsimonq2> krytarik: No, I just despise double spaces.
  <tsimonq2> And, the lack of Oxford commas.
  <tsimonq2> ::P
  <tsimonq2> *:P
  <krytarik> Yeah, true me too, and I know another one too. :P
  <tsimonq2> Although, I know how much pleia2 *loves* the Oxford comma. ;)
  <pleia2> they should only be used when necessary for clarity :P
  <krytarik> Yes!  Same! \o/
  <tsimonq2> No, they should be used *always*. :P
  <Bashing-om> and the krytarik periods :)
  <krytarik> You mean more like spurious spaces.. :P
  <tsimonq2> Oh, and ".." instead of "..."
  <tsimonq2> >_>
  <krytarik> Yes, I variate there!
  <tsimonq2> (Only in #ubuntu-news do we argume about grammar. :P)
  <tsimonq2> *argue
  <pleia2> hehe
  <Bashing-om> And style, content, and, presentation :)
  <krytarik> Period!
  <Bashing-om> LOL
  <tsimonq2> That extra comma...
  <tsimonq2> :P
  <krytarik> Yes.. :(
  <Bashing-om> Late for the date for some rack time .. we do this more tomorrow :)
  <krytarik> Cool, managed to log in to Facebook now - somehow..
  <krytarik> So, given what we now know about the admin on Canonical-hosted WordPress thing, it just occurred to me that it might yield a better outcome if, rather than having them fix the role level (to anything other than blank options) for a single team member (me), we request the role level be raised to admin for everybody on the ubuntu-fridge team. :)
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, howefield fixed it where the whole news letter can be posted on the forum, so I added the updates for 17.10
  <krytarik> Oh cool - I shouldn't ask what did it.. :P
  <Wild_Man> pleia2, tsimonq2 I received two emails today one of them with profanity in it about wanting to be removed from the newsletter mailing list, I figure I should reply with the message go to the mailing list page and include the link to unsubscribe but I just want to make sure that is the protocol?
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, he has not told me yet, he fixed it and went off line but no I would not post it here in the open channel anyway
  <tsimonq2> Wild_Man: Please forward me the email, and I can take care of it.
  <pleia2> Wild_Man: PM me their email addresses and I'll remove them, you can reply by saying something like "In the future, be aware that you can unsubscribe yourself by going logging in to the mailing list page"
  <tsimonq2> Er
   * tsimonq2 tags pleia2 
  <tsimonq2> pleia2: Thanks. :)
  <pleia2> no sense in making them jump through hoops to unsubscribe if they're already unhappy
  <krytarik> Wild_Man: I mean that's probably technicalities I wouldn't be particularly interested in knowing. :P
  <Wild_Man> true
  <Wild_Man> I am going to see if I can find some links, I have been at the VA almost all day
  <Wild_Man> I did clear out the gdoc last night so it is ready
  <Wild_Man> I also need to pm Rick with links to this channel and the wiki page before I forget
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, has bashing-om been here today?
  <krytarik> Not yet.
  <Wild_Man> ok
  <Wild_Man> will pleia2 and thanks tsimonq2
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, are you thinking about trying to make a script to pull from the hub? or does that fall into the same category as the forum?
  <krytarik> Well, I already gave a statement about this some days ago - please see the public logs of this channel.
  <Wild_Man> ok
  <Wild_Man> tsimonq2, what exactly is the purpose of this page http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2018/04/17/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-523/
  <tsimonq2> Wild_Man: What about it?
  <krytarik> I'm just writing a script however, that creates the 'in this issue' list automatically. :P
  <Wild_Man> what is its purpose since it is just a short version of the letter, I am just wondering why have it at all?
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, that is awesome!
  <pleia2> Wild_Man: the fridge is the community news blog, some people subscribe to it to get news, including UWN
  <pleia2> this is also how the newsletter gets to planet.ubuntu.com
  <pleia2> so just like we post it to the mailing list, forums, social media... fridge is just another place where people get to see it
  <Wild_Man> pleia2, so the planet gets the shortened version with the link to see the full version?
  <pleia2> yes
  <pleia2> the full version is too long for a blog :)
  <Wild_Man> Thanks for clearing that up
  <Wild_Man> hello Bashing-om
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, for most sections we really only need about 3 stories correct?
  <Wild_Man> I added 3 to the planet section
  <krytarik> Well, I'd say no more than 5 or such.
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Here we go again .. I see the gdoc has begun for next issue :)
  <Wild_Man> okay we are thnking along the same lines
  <krytarik> Depends on what you find the week, of course.
  <Wild_Man> of course
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I cleared it out last night so it would be easy to start today
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Gonna add 2 links to general ..
  <Wild_Man> good deal Bashing-om, howefield fixed the forum issue for us so now the whole news letter is on the forum
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Hreat news about the forum .. lemme check the rss feed .. see what I can find for gdoc .
  <Bashing-om> Great*
  <Wild_Man> what other sources can we use under canonical it says most come from insights.ubuntu.com so that implies we may get some from other sources?
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: This one: http://www.roaksoax.com/2018/04/maas-2-4-0-beta-2-released . Put it under conical or cloud or blog ???
  <wildmanne39> never mind about the question above I found the answer
  <Bashing-om> wildmanne39: Ehat are your thouhgts on MAAS . The AP is cloud directed .. and Cononical is the driver but the source is from a blog .
  <Bashing-om> What*
  <wildmanne39> It could go under cloud, we have three other ones in the Planet already Bashing-om
  <wildmanne39> it may be a question to asked the experienced people on there thoughts, either way is okay with me
  <wildmanne39> I am going to log out and see if I can get back on now as Wild Man
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Yepper I too think cloud for MAAS :)
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, it is more appropriate
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Nope, no can do ,, as the source is a blog .. and no blogs in the Cloud and no summaries . .. I Put the MAAS source in the blog section .
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, any idea how to undo an edit we were working in the same section and it blew up
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, never mind I found the undo button and fixed it
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, if it can not go in the cloud then it is more appropriate in the Planet section where I found it
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I guess this falls out side of what we should publish but it is interesting https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/04/microsoft-linux-custom-kernel-azure-sphere?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+d0od+%28OMG%21+Ubuntu%21%29
  <Wild_Man> biab I need to do a few things
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Lemme sign oot of gdoc .. and back in .. see what the state is ..  as to kernel-azure . I was going to look at that one in length and then see if we could make it relevant .
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: gdoc looks all right to me at this time .
  <Wild_Man> I fixed Bashing-om
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: K .. ack to "looking for sources"
  <Bashing-om> back*
  <Wild_Man> eating Bashing-om
  #ubuntu-news 2018-04-18
  <Wild_Man> I thought all news from insights.ubuntu.com goes under Canonical News is that not the case?
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Well, we can make it so .. area of interest ?  For now my effort is to get the sources onto gdocs with the thought that they will be re-arranged :)
  <Wild_Man> I have been putting them where I believe they fut the best, less work later just my opinion and also makes it easier to see what areas we need to add links too and the ones we have enough in already
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, ^^
  <Wild_Man> fut/fit
  <krytarik> Issue summary script done and pushed! \o/
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, so just do a pull again?
  <krytarik> Yep.
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, I bet you could do one to do the Bug Stats
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: I do try and place where belongs . But in the interest of getting done and moving on .. place it "somewhere" . Do we have an interest in highlighting " Call for testing: mongodb 3.6 " ?
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, not in my opinion, you could save the link in case we meed more material later but so far we are getting plenty
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Sounds good .
  <krytarik> Wild_Man: Well, I thought about that shortly, but it's easy enough to get manually, polling the LP API is rather convoluted, and I'd wage a guess that getting the diff to the previous week automatically too would be rather infeasible either.  (I had to research "unfeasible" vs "infeasible" in the meantime..)
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, I see, and funny to the last part
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, this links helps me also understand where I should place links and also more places to check for links
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: ^^ ya mean this link : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/LinkSuggestions ?
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, yes
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: I running through it at this time .
  <krytarik> Looking at the Google Doc now, yes I agree with Wild_Man, please try and put the links in the appropriate sections right away - also, no feed links, but the one to the actual website.
  <Bashing-om> krytarik: Willdo :)
  <krytarik> Also just removed a spurious link from last week.
  <krytarik> And the ones that are in the blog section currently also shouldn't have those long referrer appendages.
  <krytarik> (I'll quickly fix the latter.)
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, the link you removed was it in the Weekly Ubuntu Development Team Meetings section?
  <krytarik> No, it was desktop team weekly summary, and also was in the 'other community' section, and also no proper link but funky formatting.
  <krytarik> Which made it a bit more noticable to begin with. :)
  <Wild_Man> I understand. I have been going to the site to copy the links instead of using the ones in the feed, that is just something I have always done to make sure the link works
  <krytarik> Bashing-om: To be clear, by the first one I mean the two links that are currently sitting in the 'general news' section - one of which is a blog post, and the other one is also this: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/d0od/~3/nrn74a2oqZY/ubuntu-studio-plans-to-reboot
  <krytarik> Which is also actually a duplicate.
  <Bashing-om> We have planets' " http://www.roaksoax.com/2018/04/maas-2-4-0-beta-2-released " in blogs .. it is a blog .. should it remain in blogs ?
  <krytarik> If it's on the Planet, it belongs in there.
  <krytarik> Wild_Man: Yes, exactly, that's the way to go. :)
  <Wild_Man> I also read the info in the section where we edit the template as we are preparing it they sections marked with # gives a lot of good information and even what is on the planet it says put in the planet only if it does not fit better somewhere else
  <krytarik> Ah right, the LoCo News situation recently.. :D
  <Wild_Man> According to that this link  " http://www.roaksoax.com/2018/04/maas-2-4-0-beta-2-released " in blogs .. it is a blog .. should it remain in blogs is best suited for the cloud section.
  <krytarik> But, in that case it promoted the article, not demoted.
  <Wild_Man> I pasted to much of the text and made it unreadable, that link I just posted should e in the cloud section
  <Wild_Man> e/be
  <Wild_Man> This is what I was thinking of "The Planet
  <Wild_Man> This section includes articles published by Ubuntu Members on their personal blogs. Articles should remain in this section if they can't be moved to another more appropriate area."
  <Bashing-om> Calling it a night . looked over a few of the items, getting some ideas for the summaries . Work on them tomorrow .  \o
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: An insight article - not generated from canonical : https://insights.ubuntu.com/2018/04/18/eclipse-2018-survey-the-iot-landscape-what-it-empirically-looks-like ; maybe better placed in general ?
  <pleia2> the report they're talking about may not have been generated by Canonical, but the article certainly is, with a focus on Ubuntu
  <pleia2> so I'd still say it's Canonical News
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, there is your answer, I was a little slow
  <Wild_Man> thanks pleia2
  <pleia2> sorry, didn't mean to interrupt :)
  <Wild_Man> pleia2, you did not all input is greatly appreciated, I just want to make sure he sees that you replied to him
  <Bashing-om> pleia2: Good article heavy on ubuntu . // Next is a couple of large conference advisories .. put them under Loco ?
  <pleia2> depends on whether a LoCo is running them
  <pleia2> Canonical does their own events often that don't engage the local communities
  <Bashing-om> pleia2: The one I am looking at presenly is created by Canonical : KubeCon + CloudnativeCon Europe 2018 .
  <Wild_Man> pleia2, do you think this has a place? it is kinda of ironic to me, https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/04/microsoft-linux-custom-kernel-azure-sphere?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+d0od+%28OMG%21+Ubuntu%21%29
  <pleia2> Bashing-om: link?
  <pleia2> Wild_Man: That one probably goes under "other articles of interest"
  <Bashing-om> pleia2: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2018/04/18/kubecon-cloudnativecon-europe-2018 .
  <pleia2> Bashing-om: ah yeah, that's Canonical, not LoCo
  <Wild_Man> I have a facebook friend that give me links sometimes, I have added two from her today but she does not want to contribute directly
  <Wild_Man> thanks pleia2, I thought that might be the case if it was something we should allow
  <Wild_Man> I installed updates last night for 18.04 and now my laptop is warm and the fan is running all the time, I need to see if I can find or file a bug about it
  <Wild_Man> brb
  #ubuntu-news 2018-04-19
  <krytarik> LOL, I was just about to go ahead finally and file a ticket for me on the WP role issue at the Fridge - but glad I checked before once again still.. :D
  <pleia2> krytarik: does it work now?
  <krytarik> Yes, it does - to the extent that's expected anyway. :)
  <pleia2> great
  <pleia2> problems solving themselves \o/
  <krytarik> Yeep!
  <krytarik> Also, I've got a simple idea how to get the top 5 threads on the forums too - by using the link I posted earlier (will have to scour the logs for it) and then just manually picking the first five threads that started in the same week. :P
  <pleia2> that works, it's how we did the AskUbuntu one before someone wrote us a script
  <krytarik> Just got to pulling it, for everyone else again: https://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchdate=7&sortby=replycount&searchfromtype=vBForum%3APost&forumchoice[]=327&forumchoice[]=125&prefixchoice[]=&childforums=1&type[]=1
  <Bashing-om> getter done .. here I go again :P
  <krytarik> I just updated the translation stats script btw - regardless of whether or not we want to continue using it in the future.
  <Bashing-om> krytarik: Human Machine Interface: http://www.electronicdesign.com/industrial-automation/choosing-right-linux-distribution-your-embedded-application . Toward the end of the article is ubuntu - can we put this in the general heading ?
  <krytarik> Certainly not in General, no.
  <Bashing-om> krytarik: K; so please define for me what constitues a palcement in general - How intensive of an effort to fill that heading ? .
  <krytarik> "Suggested sources: ubuntu-news-team mailing list, fridge.ubuntu.com" - from the comments in the template.
  <Bashing-om> krytarik: ack
  <Bashing-om> A family concern of a grandchild - school and conduct - I will rerurn when the pressing matter is concluded .
  <krytarik> :D
  <oerheks> yay, adblockers legal ( in Germany ) https://yro.slashdot.org/story/18/04/19/2041236/german-supreme-court-rules-ad-blockers-legal
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, you around?
  <krytarik> Wild_Man: Yep.  Seen the channel log of earlier today yet? :)
  <Wild_Man> no. I will read it now, guessing it is important?
  #ubuntu-news 2018-04-20
  <Bashing-om> Michael Larabel is some kind of prolifferant . Getting boreing " Michael Larabel writes " .
  <krytarik> Could always variate at the verb at least though! :P
  <Bashing-om> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Rise-Tomb-Raider-Linux-Tomorrow is outdated by the former article . remove it ?
  <Bashing-om> http://news.softpedia.com/news/kde-applications-open-source-software-suite-gets-first-major-release-in-2018-520768.shtml though more detailed is a repeat of the ups Michael Larabel article .
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, by what former article?
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I realize that link that Tomb Raider has already been released today but I see it as just a way to let people know that it has been released, just my opinion we will see what krytarik thinks and the second link to me in no way just restates that gnome has been released it talks about many apps so, I looked that that before I posted it, I think it is good to keep it again just my opinion I am not an expert at this
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I have been thinking about the Tomb Raider link since it will be next week before we publish I think you are correct we should remove it, we can probably find an updated one to replace it with
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Does not this suffuce for Tomb raider "https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=tomb-raider-20 ' in our summary ?
  <krytarik> Someone please reword the KDE Applications summary. :P
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, that will do, I looked at the the kde application link again and the writer of that article changed his article from just talking about Dolphin to include all the things in the link you posted so it is a duplicate now but the second link is better I think we should leave that one and remove the first one
  <krytarik> Or in fact, pick the Softpedia one in favor of that.
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, that is what I am saying as well, it is better in my opinion
  <krytarik> Yeah, I've just read your last message. :)
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, I am curious do it show me logged into gdoc? I see you and Bashing-om but not myself, I assume that is the way gdoc is supposed to be
  <Wild_Man> do/does
  <krytarik> Yeah, one always just sees the other ones.
  <Wild_Man> ok
  <Wild_Man> I hope Bashing-om looks in here to see what we said about removing that link because I think he is trying to rewrite the summary, I wonder if I should remove it?
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Agreed .. to scrap Michael Larabel's article and write up the release article .
  <krytarik> Yeep! :D
  <krytarik> Also, the robot summary is both too short and the sentence doesn't really make sense to me at the end.
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, I am not good at grammar these days, why does not summary need rewritten?
  <Wild_Man> not/that, I really need to triple check my typing before posting in here
  <krytarik> Also, keep in mind that this time we'll also try and sling in the other editors - so there will hopefully a bit more review be going on than just us three.
  <Wild_Man> I hope more summary writers as well but I would hate to leave the summaries until the weekend and be disappointed, so I do not know.
  <Wild_Man> I only received four replies out of about 30
  <guiverc> Wild_Man: as someone who wrote to writers regularly after summaries, 4 replies of 30 is actually very good!  Lyz would probably say its an outstanding response!  likewise Simon..
  <Wild_Man> guiverc, It sure is better then none
  <guiverc> also I only have 'view mode' to doc, writers will need write access to gdoc too
  <krytarik> guiverc: If you would like write access to it, PM me your email address and I can add you.
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, did you look the gdoc down so people can not easily edit it?
  <guiverc> PM - you're stretching an old guy like me...  (let me know you got it)
  <krytarik> Wild_Man: We did last we after a lengthy discussion - don't you remember?
  <krytarik> ..Week.
  <Wild_Man> lets not talk about getting older guiverc
  <Wild_Man> I was not sure that it was actually done
  <Wild_Man> Yes I remember the discussion
  <Wild_Man> I hope if the summary writers show up to write that they pop in here.
  <guiverc> Would be nice, but I never saw it  (I didn't do email summaries that long anyway  -- i did ~50 contribs before I actually entered this room anyway
  <Wild_Man> I am afraid if the come and see they can not write to the gdoc that they will just leave
  <Wild_Man> the/they
  <krytarik> Well, I certainly don't want to check every day if anybody has planted an easter egg someplace in it.. :P  Unlike just deleting the whole thing like last week, which is pretty obvious.
  <krytarik> And e.g. my computer can't really handle the docs' history function at all, so..
  <Wild_Man> Do you want to add the emails of the people that replied and said they would help? or wait until they show up?
  <krytarik> If they are Gmail ones, I guess yes.
  <Wild_Man> they have to be gmail?
  <krytarik> Yep, or connected to it.
  <oerheks> oerheks@ubuntu.com was not valid :-(
  <guiverc> why not just mention in email that they'll need to request-write access (if they don't already have it)... ie. warning & be ready for responses...
  <guiverc> i noted a 'request write' access on gdoc (alas after I'd mentioned access here)
  <Wild_Man> guiverc, that is what I was thinking of doing, is editing the email that goes out to the summary writers
  <guiverc> :)
  <Bashing-om> We have enough material ? ( still need to populate general) Do we want to write up a success story on the Dell XPS on 18.04 ?
  <Bashing-om> https://daniel.holba.ch/blog/2018/04/a-month-with-dell-xps-13-9370/
  <krytarik> General is really only for official community news.
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, we can probably use it but as krytarik said not in General, I am having trouble finding articles to put in this section
  <Bashing-om> krytarik: Yup, and my official community news sources are skimppy this week :P
  <krytarik> Iirc it isn't always populated.
  <Bashing-om> krytarik: Well, yeah .. got nothing to say, best say nothing :)
  <krytarik> Yuup! :)
  <krytarik> Bashing-om: As to the above post, maybe replace the literally one-sentence gksu one with it..?
  <krytarik> Could write about the OMG post on it instead then if you'd like.
  <krytarik> ..Or that was someplace else.
  <Bashing-om> krytarik: Might be able to flesh out the gksu issue ,, seen some flack in the channels in that respect .
  <krytarik> I mean it's kind of important, so we should find some proper post about it.
  <Bashing-om> krytarik: See what i can find - uncle Google !
  <krytarik> Yep!  At it too! :P
  <krytarik> Or just wait two days.. :P
  <Bashing-om> Saturday will bring it's own problems . let us deal with what is now . gksu !
  <Wild_Man> the one I posted by Jeremy Bicha has a link to the bug report on how to do it now, he is the dev that removed it
  <krytarik> Yeah, but no details whatsoever..
  <krytarik> I mean that's like linking to the bug report directly - except with one more click.
  <krytarik> http://www.linux-magazin.de/news/ubuntu-18-04-lts-verzichtet-auf-gksu/ - the German one I had in mind there instead btw. :P
  <krytarik> So I'd say we wait a day at least and see what more pops up.
  <Bashing-om> krytarik: Yup seen that , points to : https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=892768 and we can reference the bug to flesh out the summary .
  <krytarik> That's like writing a post yourself..
  <Bashing-om> krytarik: Would for sure be stretching the definition of "summary" .
  <Wild_Man> this is from today https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2389656&highlight=gksusetting it up is a bother
  <krytarik> Yes...
  <Bashing-om> krytarik: As An aside, I have no used gksu in ages ... since I seen the man page for ' sudo -H ' .
  <krytarik> I'll go to bed now, good night folks! :)
  <krytarik> I have never used 'sudo -H' myself yet tbh.
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, sudo -H no longer works either
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: I still use it here on xubuntu 18.04 .
  <Wild_Man> I tried earlier on Ubuntu it is a no go
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Ouch .. lemme test ! updates may have killed it .
  <krytarik> Who needs root anymore... :D
  <Wild_Man> I do!
  <krytarik> Such a stickler to the core..
  <Wild_Man> Yep!
  <krytarik> Fwiw, I always use 'sudo -i'.. :P
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: ' sudo -H ' upper case h .. still works for me .
  <Wild_Man> that is good
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, sudo -i does work
  <krytarik> See, I always use the most robust stuff! :P
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: However, I can believe that I must learn policyKit .
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, sudo -H works for me now, I guess 18.04 was acting up earlier
  <Wild_Man> I tried several times earlier and it did not work
  <krytarik> "Don't work"... :D
  <krytarik> Details, dude!
  <Wild_Man> I use the terminal for almost everything these days
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Them there Grimlins .. never can tell what they are up to .
  <krytarik> I got Lynx there.. :P
  <Wild_Man> indeed
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Should we stretch "summary" an in the gksu article also give the debian bug report link ?
  <Wild_Man> Yes I think so
  <Wild_Man> No, I just remembered that it says no links in the summary its self, you have to add it after the summary
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, ^^
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Let's see if it flies by a sweep :) // that is waht I meant to ass it after the header's link .
  <Bashing-om> ass/*add
  <Wild_Man> ok
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Like so - have a look - is what I suggest . And rest on it .
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, maybe I am getting to tired, you want me to look at the gksu article right? I do not see the link to the bug report
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I did add a link under the General Section that I think can stay there
  <Wild_Man> I think it is time to call it a night
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: I placed it right below the https://jeremy.bicha link .
  <Wild_Man> maybe I need to refresh the page
  <Wild_Man> it showed up after refreshing the page, that works for me
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, tomorrow we probably should adjust the summary to say the bug report link is included?
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: So yes .. let's call it a night :)
  <Wild_Man> Indeed!
  <Wild_Man> see you tomorrow after I get done at the VA
  <Wild_Man> Thanks for all the great work!
  <Bashing-om> Nite nite - do not let the bed bugs bite :P
  <Wild_Man> Night
  <Bashing-om> Taking a break from mowing - catch up on where we are for publishing . I see we have added help :)
  <krytarik> Yes! :)
  <Bashing-om> At a stopping place, back to mowing . I return here soonest :)
  <krytarik> Now, wrt this channel's ACL: 1.) Who is Beuno..?  And 2.) I'd like to have op rights too (I'm no Ubuntu member yet still), just in case.. :)
  <krytarik> (To be clear, particularly for the case where spammers quite literally hit every channel in the Ubuntu namespace, regardless of topic or size - which I've also seen hit this one before.)
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: WB :) .. I am in the midst of mowing .. in and out as I take an opportunity of respite from the mower .
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, Okay did you see my message you in the gdoc?
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: No ..I did not see any in gdoc .. lemme recheck .
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Uh Huh .. it workie // was of some wonder how to chat there :)
  <Bashing-om> Gonna go have that reel mower beat up in me a bit more .. back in jusst a few .
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, see you!
  <Bashing-om> Back .. My attention however is presently in the forum - will check here periodically .
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, okay
  #ubuntu-news 2018-04-21
  <guiverc> i went into uwn doc, didn't find any needing summaries - looks done :)  (or I need stronger glasses)
  <oerheks> yay, FFMPEY "Wu" 4.0 http://ffmpeg.org/index.html#pr4.0
  <oerheks> FFMPEG*
  <krytarik> ...Wait, with the current highest role of editor for any of us on the Fridge's WP, we can't even change the widgets on the site!?
  <krytarik> (I merely wanted to see if we could add button linked to the general @ubuntu_news Twitter account alongside the RSS one to the Subscribe widget.)
  <pleia2> no, we just submit tickets when we want something changed, in reality it's pretty rare
  <krytarik> That really makes me want to cry now. :D
  <pleia2> now that you're the boss you're welcome to talk to them about opening access, but I chose my battles with Canonical IS and this one wasn't worth it to me ;)
  <krytarik> Yeah, I hear you.
  <Bashing-om> memory leaks fixes in 18.04 LTS: The probable fix is in . https://feaneron.com/2018/04/20/the-infamous-gnome-shell-memory-leak/ . Do we re-write the original summary or replace it ?
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, Bashing-om this is pretty important, it just came out today https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GNOME-Shell-Memory-Leak-Fix do we want to add it?
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Awaiting response drom above " memory leaks fixes in 18.04 LTS: The probable fix is in . https://feaneron.com/2018/04/20/the-infamous-gnome-shell-memory-leak/ . Do we re-write the original summary or replace it ?" .
  <krytarik> You two figure it out! :P
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I would replace it
  <Wild_Man> The new link is a much more concise article and easier to read imo
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: I am all for adding an editorial note to what we have, to see an additional summary .
  <Bashing-om> woNot doing the backgraound research .. but feaneron seems to be the project leader .
  <krytarik> Oh btw, I'd still like someone other than myself (conflict of interest) to work over the Studio reboot summary 1.) so the currently only sentence makes more sense, and 2.) hopefully get together an additional one. :)
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I do not find the link you posted, I thought the gnome leak was published in the 523?
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: 524: https://community.ubuntu.com/t/help-test-memory-leaks-fixes-in-18-04-lts/5251 // my new source: https://feaneron.com/2018/04/20/the-infamous-gnome-shell-memory-leak/ .
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I guess you can use the link that you want to use, it hurts my eyes trying to read the small print
  <Wild_Man> Okay, I found that one by Will Cooke but I was looking for one with the link you posted above.
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: I will also look at your new link - the fix does need to be made public . Just. do we add an editorial note to what we have ?
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: My thought is not to take away from the effort that our community provided .
  <Wild_Man> I think that will be fine, we do not want to diminish the work that will has done
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: A bit out of the norm to editorialize, but is such a thing acceptable practice ?
  <Wild_Man> From what I have seen everything else is looking good, I am still dealing with a problem user on the forum that is causing trouble on FB also since last night so I am going to be busy with that for some time
  <krytarik> As to what source to use, I think if you first heard of it from phoronix, which I think is the case, it's fair to reference it and mention that it links to the original post.
  <Wild_Man> I am not sure how sure exactly what you plan to write I would just add the leak is not fixed and include the link and see what others have to say
  <Wild_Man> scratched not
  <Wild_Man> I need to put out fires
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: While here ... xfcw has released their updates . Are there constraints on how many aricles are presented .. and are there constraints on the length of the newsletter .
  <Bashing-om> xfce*
  <krytarik> What would that be btw..?
  <Bashing-om> krytarik: still looking at new material // so far xfce with 2 releases .
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, no constraints, just it depends on how much help we have
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Well, I can make the time to add these 3 to UWN .
  <krytarik> If you want to write about updates to individual parts of Xfce, I'd group them under one header at least though.
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, wrote a summary for Ubuntu Studio and put it as a suggested, I will leave it up to you if you want to use it
  <Bashing-om> krytarik: Hey. We do like xfce .. will make up a common heading and include in this edition :)
  <krytarik> Yes, we do!
  <krytarik> Bashing-om: On the Gnome memory leak post, please not so much quoting.
  <krytarik> Wild_Man: I have read the OMG article earlier, and I'm not particularly convinced yet the summary captures its content sufficiently. :)
  <krytarik> But it's closer already indeed.
  <Bashing-om> krytarik: That long quote - IMHO - carries all of the relevant info ... yes ?
  <krytarik> Well, we aren't to quote everything but to summarize.
  <Wild_Man> The only place we can quote is apparently for pod casts
  <krytarik> Well tbh, that's arguable too - but since it's always been done this way so far..
  <krytarik> At least I've changed the always same intro who is on the show the week to just a simple list already now.
  <tsimonq2> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2018-April/004438.html
  <tsimonq2>  /!\ /!\ Help test! /!\ /!\
  <guiverc> tsimonq2, is it worth putting it on fridge?  (from memory testing qualifies)
  <Bashing-om> tsimonq2: Looking ^ .
  <tsimonq2> guiverc: Yes.
  <Bashing-om> Interesting: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2018/04/20/design-and-web-team-summary-20-april-2018 . Does it suit for inclusion ?
  <guiverc> i'll put on fridge (hyper-text-free though!)
  <guiverc> (i meant https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2018-April/004438.html on fridge)
  <Wild_Man> I think it does that is why I included it
  <guiverc> tsimonq2, adam con.. of ?? it only has his name - Ubuntu Release Team???
  <tsimonq2> guiverc: Adam Conrad is on the Ubuntu Release Team, yes.
  <guiverc> use that, or just Ubuntu team (start - Adam Conrad of ...)
  <tsimonq2> Nah, Ubuntu Release Team is better, imho. :)
  <guiverc> thanks.  will use urt
  <tsimonq2> Cool. :)
  #ubuntu-news 2018-04-22
  <krytarik> guiverc: Can you not post in monospace font this time though? :P
  <guiverc> krytarik, i don't see ability to change font - i know ~0 about wp, headings, preformatted, paragraph, bold, italics, ..  (in both text & visual mode)
  <krytarik> If you leave the editor for a bit, I can fix it.
  <tsimonq2> I'll Fix The Thing once it's posted.
  <tsimonq2> Or.
  <tsimonq2> That. :)
  <guiverc> am out of editor... using gedit now :)
  <krytarik> That's not what I meant... :P
  <krytarik> guiverc: Fixed!
  <krytarik> Thou shall continue.
  <guiverc> thanks - it saved it as draft - use it or start again?
  <krytarik> Btw, the trick is not to paste or in fact use at all the "visual" editor, but "text" instead.
  <guiverc> i didn't see a 'font' option (i assume you changed default krytarik) - as for visual, it was how i was shown from memory - i can explore later..  http://fridge.ubuntu.com/?p=8325&preview=true  if you'd like to preview  (links are good)  - mentions uwn523 @ bottom which may be 'next post' i normally don't notice..
  <krytarik> I merely removed the '<pre>' tags that got added all over the post automatically.
  <krytarik> Yes, it's cool.  I removed the 'more' tag too btw - I think we don't need it for this short one..?
  <guiverc> posted - thanks krytarik   ( http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2018/04/22/first-set-of-bionic-sort-of-rc-images-for-18-04/ )
  <guiverc> thanks tsimonq2
  <guiverc> does the <pre> mean preformatted?  (seem to recall those tags in askubuntu)
  <krytarik> Yes.
  <krytarik> Or something - but it does mean codey and monospacey.
  <guiverc> thanks - that'll be easier to remember (i hope) - i prefer monospace anyway (but don't explore for fear of..)
  <krytarik> Well, it looks rather crappy on the website though if it's used for everything. :P
  <guiverc> (okay except my own systems, fixing problems b/c I blew it up when others can't see is fun!)
  <guiverc> i only read the text; and only see it in liferea (or lynx) so i'd likely not notice
  <guiverc> note: i didn't click 'planet' for it   (i'm now thinking maybe I should..)  ah well
  <krytarik> Well, on the previous release it was on there anyway.
  <Wild_Man> why did we post that one article to the fridge instead of waiting to post the news letter? was that just as a favor?
  <krytarik> This is not only UWN, but also Fridge.
  <Bashing-om> krytarik: Wild_Man : Would a link on our final freeze summary suffice ?
  <Wild_Man> I thought we just post uwn to the Fridge
  <krytarik> Bashing-om: Well, both are different topics - but yeah, if you wanna write about the call for testing too, then sure have a separate one for it.
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, what do you mean, there is already a summary for final freeze?
  <krytarik> Because the timing fits really well now too.
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: yeah .. the summary however does not directly address the plea for final testing .
  <Wild_Man> Two separate topics, I did not realize you were talking about the plea for testing, yes we need a separate one as krytarik said
  <guiverc> this room is Ubuntu News Team - fridge, UWN & more ... I'd definetly say include it in UWN  (mention the lists.ubuntu links, not fridge one!)
  <krytarik> guiverc: Planetize the post yet? :P
  <krytarik> Also, I've just seen you used a 'testing' one for the Final Beta - though that was last used in 2012 till then.
  <guiverc> nah - i said planet; I wish I'd clicked 'testing' - but still not sure about planet - you say yeah I assume - i'll add the testing
  <krytarik> You can also do this by 'quick edit' btw.
  <guiverc> testing added and I'm happy.  do you think its worthy of planet?
  <krytarik> No, I'm not sure either..
  <guiverc> truthfully i think not - i like planet only because more eyes will see it...
  <krytarik> Maybe we want to re-pick up using the 'release' category too.
  <krytarik> Wild_Man: Oh!..  Wanna tweet this? :P
  <krytarik> (The other two are for UWN only.)
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, this one http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2018/04/22/first-set-of-bionic-sort-of-rc-images-for-18-04/ ?
  <Wild_Man> I was thinking about that a few minutes ago
  <krytarik> Well, the ML link of course, but yeah.
  <Wild_Man> Tweet from the Ubuntu Forums account?
  <krytarik> Well,.. you could do that too, of course - but I primarily meant from the @ubuntu_news one.
  <Wild_Man> You confused me when you said "the other two are for UWN only" I am not sure what you are referring too. Yes  I will do it.
  <krytarik> Facebook and Google+
  <krytarik> And cool, thanks!
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, Done, now I am going to retweet from forums account.
  <krytarik> Proper wording there, dude. :)
  <krytarik> Erm, now I see though, that's also tailored to the UWN..
  <krytarik> Doesn't matter though!
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, that is not proper wording?
  <krytarik> No, I do mean it like that. :)
  <Wild_Man> Okay!
  <Wild_Man> I tried my best
  <Wild_Man> it is hard with my wife watching tv in the same room, I am not good at shutting out noise
  <krytarik> Yeah, I know that can be..
  <krytarik> Somebody wanna make the Final Freeze summary a little less copy-pastey still? :P
  <krytarik> Wild_Man: Oh btw, I did add the social media info to the UWN template earlier today.
  <Wild_Man> nice!
  <krytarik> Wild_Man: Morning.  I've just added two more links to the Xfce component updates summary.. :P  These aren't exactly Xfce apps though, but I figure it's still best to bundle those - Bashing-om (who wrote the summary initially) or you, please make it fit somehow without dropping all the details already in there. :)
  <krytarik> Still wish one could subscribe to the Planet without getting all the full posts btw.
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, bashing-om wrote it
  <krytarik> Yes, like I just said..
  <krytarik> Either way, I just barely got up too and am about to head out, and couldn't come up with an immediate solution to it either - so I figured I should let you both know at least that I added those.. :)
  <Wild_Man> Okay, I am still waking up
  <krytarik> Saaame..
  <krytarik> And just stumbled about this while checking the IRC logs of today.
  <krytarik> Wild_Man: I've just updated the scripts slightly btw, including the summary one as to the newly added section mentioned earlier: https://git.launchpad.net/uwn/commit/?id=23fc11b8de6bb7d437dbacf9a9bc2f9613e77873
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, thanks I will pull the script again
  <Wild_Man> krytarik, is the new letter ready for the wiki?
  <krytarik> Lemme quickly check again..
  <Wild_Man> Looks close if not ready
  <krytarik> Yeah, it's cool - go ahead!
  <Wild_Man> Okay.
  #ubuntu-news 2019-04-15
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue574 up for acceptance.
  <guiverc> Bashing-om, release schedule for dingo is thursday (18th) so 'next week' in general community news should say "last this week"
  <Bashing-om> guiverc: Good catch ! .. will correct when I remove "WIP" .// Do you expect to be around tomorrow eve to do the socials ?
  <guiverc> that'll be a bit late... it's monday arvo already; we usually publish early tuesday my local time  :)   yeah is your answer
  <guiverc> (i haven't finished my read thru - i'll do it as I can..)
  <Bashing-om> guiverc: :) .. I keep forgetting the Aussie in you :P
  <guiverc> :)
  <guiverc> Bashing-om, Ubuntu Ratings/Reviews   s/are are/are/  (ie. remove the double-word)
  <Bashing-om> guiverc: Noted too :)
  <guiverc> in Disco Disco (19.04) Release Candidate testing  there's another "released next week" however should this be dropped completely; duplicate of disco final freeze first notice (just different wording)
  <guiverc> ^ those two are in hub
  <Bashing-om> guiverc: Noted .
  <guiverc> https://plus.google.com/+UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter  needs to be removed  (and from skeleton too!)
  <Bashing-om> guiverc: K - will do that also :)
  <guiverc> my read thru is complete anyway; you want to remove g+ from skeleton.
  <guiverc> skeleton/template https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/IssueTemplate
  <guiverc> change made Bashing-om  (g+ shouldn't re-appear in subsequent issues)
  <Bashing-om> guiverc: My my you are feelinng industrious :P
  <guiverc> Bashing-om, minor ones edited (/next/this/ & /are are/are/ & /g+//  but didn't touch  hub.disco.rc,testing /next/this/OR duplicate/drop?
  <Bashing-om> guiverc: Lemme look and see what you see :P
  <Bashing-om> guiverc: As the hub summary has amplified testing info - I would like to keep it. tsimonq2 Also has an announcemnet but adds nothing that is not already covered.
  <Bashing-om> guiverc: Yeah agreed ,, the "next week " should be amended to "this week". - but next week is the authors words.
  <guiverc> yep - I wondered about keeping too, also if next/this really applies (b/c of Apr.. 18th specific mention)
  <guiverc> I'm happy with the wording as is b/c of date mention
  <Bashing-om> guiverc: Well, we could make it explicit that "next" is from the author as by [next] ??
  <guiverc> i'm not really a fan of "Apr... 18th"  -- but it's a direct quote so I ignored it...  why I left that alone & didn't touch it with my barge pole :)
  -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Security:: Episode 28 @ https://ubuntusecuritypodcast.org/episode-28/
  <Bashing-om> Pulling "WIP" and editing "next" too.
  <Bashing-om> M/L is away .. doing the forum post next.
  <Bashing-om> Forum posting is done - re-directs next.
  <Bashing-om> re-directs also done. Pending is posting to the social medias :)
  <guiverc> Want me to push #574 fridge?  (I need a 2nd)
  <Bashing-om> guiverc: Yeah .. All looks good - :)
  <guiverc> :)    thanks Bashing-om i'll take your response as my 2nd once I finish clearing spam on fridge
  <guiverc> we've got offers for someone to help write (author stuff) - from a diy solar panel... interested?
  <Bashing-om> guiverc: Works for me to be that 2nd -for what that is worth.
  <Bashing-om> guiverc: Always interested on a means to lighten/enlarge our load :)
  <guiverc> krytarik & tsimonq2 felt I didn't need to worry about 2nd due to regularly schedule for uwn - but fridge rules say it so I like it...
  <Bashing-om> guiverc: I like sticking to a known good procedure :)
  <guiverc> :)
  <guiverc> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2019/04/15/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-574/
  <guiverc> I'll do social media posts later.. time for bird feed...
  <Bashing-om> guiverc: Fridge looks good :)
  <Bashing-om> Bot confirmtion that the Fridge is posted :)
  -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: The Fridge: Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 574 @ http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2019/04/15/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-574/
  <guiverc> mewe & tweet done.
  <Bashing-om> guiverc: :) clear now to wipe Gdoc574 ? We start all over again ?
  <guiverc> i was looking for my high-tech exercise book (passwd) to log into fb - not done yet..
  <Bashing-om> guiverc: Excuse me for rushing :(
  <guiverc> (now to look for my phone..)  but yeah you can wipe .. i won't use it & it's out-of-date anyway
  <guiverc> (we have the wiki)
  <Bashing-om> guiverc: K - on your say-so I do :)
  <guiverc> fb now done too :|
  <Bashing-om> Anddd .. we do UWN575 :)
  <Wild_Man> All done?
  <guiverc> yep :)   and thanks Wild_Man
  <Wild_Man> Thanks guys another, job well done!
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: We do UWN575 now :P
  <Wild_Man> WOOT!
  <guiverc> fyi:  i'll be unable to put 19.04 to fridge till very late friday (my local)... my passion play committment is higher priority (spel?) for me so I won't be available when I expect 19.04 to finally be released...  I can be a pre-2nd if acceptable before-hand (???)
  <Wild_Man> We announce when 19.04 comes out?
  <Wild_Man> It is our responsibility
  <guiverc> Wild_Man, http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2018/10/18/ubuntu-18-10-cosmic-cuttlefish-released/  - but it's a ubuntu-news team responsibility;  not just uwn
  <Wild_Man> guiverc, I see, I will be busy that day until late, it will be the 19th UTC time by the time I am here
  <guiverc> (Wild_Man they're a bit more work than uwn; source is ML post which is all text; so all formatting is added...)  - it'll get done when we're available/when we can..
  <Wild_Man> guiverc, is it a copy and paste? or we have to right up the summary?
  <guiverc> we copy/paste ... only the bottom paragraph is added but no writing, just insert name/team/date etc in correct places (from a prior one.. 50% of time taken is looking for ML post itself!)
  <guiverc> (okay ~10-20% of time is looking for post..)
  <Wild_Man> guiverc, okay if I get back before you and get to it I will give it a go
  #ubuntu-news 2019-04-16
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  -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Fridge:: Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 574 @ http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2019/04/15/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-574/ (by guiverc)
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  #ubuntu-news 2019-04-17
  -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Erich Eickmeyer: One Year Leading Ubuntu Studio @ https://ericheickmeyer.com/2019/04/16/one-year-leading-ubuntu-studio/
  -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Softpedia:: VirtualBox 6.0.6 Released with Support for Linux 5.0 and Linux 5.1 Kernels @ https://news.softpedia.com/news/virtualbox-6-0-6-released-with-support-for-linux-5-0-and-linux-5-1-kernels-525697.shtml (by Marius Nestor)
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  #ubuntu-news 2019-04-18
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  <mohammads> Hello everyone
  <mohammads> When disco will unleash?
  <guiverc> mohammads, add yourself to the release mailing list & you'll get a text message when it occurs..  it's how I'm notified
  <mohammads> Ok
  <guiverc> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-release
  <mohammads> Yes, i just joined. thank you guiverc ð
  <guiverc> :)
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  <Unit193> eoan!
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  <guiverc> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2019-April/004753.html
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  -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Ubuntu Studio: Ubuntu Studio 19.04 Released! @ http://ubuntustudio.org/2019/04/ubuntu-studio-19-04-released/
  -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Lubuntu Blog: Lubuntu 19.04 (Disco Dingo) Released! @ https://lubuntu.me/disco-released/
  -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Softpedia:: Ubuntu Budgie 19.04 Released with Budgie 10.5 Desktop and Brand-New Theme @ https://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-budgie-19-04-released-with-budgie-10-5-desktop-and-brand-new-theme-525720.shtml (by Marius Nestor)
  -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Kubuntu General News: Kubuntu 19.04 is released today @ https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-19-04-is-released-today/
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  #ubuntu-news 2019-04-19
  <guiverc> Okay for https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2019-April/004753.html  to fridge?   2nd please, or I can be 2nd to someone else..
  <krytarik> guiverc: Of course!  And I'd be the second here as per usual.. >_>  Also I notice Wild_Man is still around too, so you two might work on it together for a learning experience.
  <guiverc> thanks krytarik, yep. that was reason for my wording '2nd to..'  (but is it too late at night there? ..)
  <krytarik> Wild_Man: Say something! :P
  <guiverc> I'll give Wild_Man a chance (I won't do anything for next ~hour..)
  <guiverc> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2019/04/19/ubuntu-19-04-disco-dingo-released/
  <krytarik> guiverc: Nice work there, thanks!  Only one thing that I've noticed, some of the links.. aren't ones. :P
  <guiverc> Wild_Man, fyi: i copied ML post to `mousepad` (xfce text editor), copy prior 18.10 end signoff to it (copy/paste new timestamp over it, name usually to), then add <h3></h3> tags above/below headings, remove ------ underlining & general cleanup.  preview & post  (then edit to add ML url to end-line; usually stuff something up..) http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wHSyZRTyRf/ is my mousepad massaged file.
  <krytarik> Oh, and the very first one got a funky font.
  <krytarik> Also, I think it might be time they flip most if not all of them over to HTTPS yet. >_<
  <guiverc> missed links fixed..
  <guiverc> first font one also (it was recognized as different block type... isn't anymore)
  <krytarik> Great, thanks!
  -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: The Fridge: Ubuntu 19.04 (Disco Dingo) released @ http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2019/04/19/ubuntu-19-04-disco-dingo-released/
  <guiverc> Wild_Man, getting rid of /n (linebreaks) on long lines is pretty key too  (i should have mentioned)
  -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Fridge:: Ubuntu 19.04 (Disco Dingo) released @ http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2019/04/19/ubuntu-19-04-disco-dingo-released/ (by guiverc)
  -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Xubuntu: Xubuntu 19.04 released! @ https://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-19-04-released/
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  #ubuntu-news 2019-04-20
  <Wild_Man> Thanks for the instructions guiverc, sorry I did not make it to help last night, I am very busy and when I did get home I was taking care of my wife
  <guiverc> Not an issue Wild_Man, it was done when we could.  Yes family comes first
  <Wild_Man> I was wanting to get the practice of doing it just did not work out
  <guiverc> well if you noticed ^  I still need practice and I've been doing it how long??  (releases, EOL's etc don't occur very frequently..)
  <Wild_Man> no they do not
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  #ubuntu-news 2019-04-21
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Thanks to guiverc summaries are done, and I have made some polishing efforts, Can you do a walk through and confirm this as a final product ?
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I will take a look after I am done eating
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: :) .. soon anough :D
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I am having trouble with gdoc my laptop does not want to let me scroll the page my fan is turning hard and the page is frozen so I am going to close it and try again
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Yukkie on hardware issues - No hurry about verifying Gdoc.
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, the last few days I have been having issues with the laptop
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Time for a good cleaning ? .. I have a power supply fan that does not want to autostart :( ,, I got to flick it after the PS warms up a bit.
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I do not think so, my laptop has been locking up and I have to restart it then the bios does a recovery during the boot up process
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: memory test good ?
  <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I have not ran a memory test yet, I did update the bios a little while ago as recommended by oldfred but I do not think it took
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Bios splash screen show the updated vrsion ?
  <Wild_Man> I made one comment on gdoc I you see what you think I am not sure about it, I haven not slept or slowed down much in the last four weeks and it makes my foggy
  <Wild_Man> yes but hp site still shows it needs to be upgraded
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Were me - I would bump bios to the latest available.
  <Wild_Man> I do not want to go into it here but sudo dmidecode | less shows the old version
  <Wild_Man> I did and the one hp shows is the one I updated to tonight
  <Wild_Man> I am to tired to worry about it tonight
  <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: I can relate - I want to re-install 19.04 but just either can not find the time or just to tired to do it .
  <Wild_Man> :)
  -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Ubuntu Studio: Ubuntu Studio 18.04 Extended Support @ http://ubuntustudio.org/2019/04/ubuntu-studio-18-04-extended-support/
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  <Bashing-om> Beginning to set up WIKI575.
  #ubuntu-news 2020-04-13
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  <Bashing-om> UWM: Pulling "WIP" channel log checked, no other changes known. Time to push 20:00 GMT.
  <Bashing-om> UWN: ubuntu-news@lists notification is away - doing the form post next.
  <Bashing-om> UWN: Forum post completed - abridged the update sections, no other isues seen. Doing the re-directs next.
  <Bashing-om> UWN: Re-directs done - pending is the social medias posts.
  <guiverc> Bashing-om, push UWN 626 to fridge?
  <Bashing-om> guiverc: Yup - Think Wild_Man still with connection issues.
  <guiverc> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2020/04/13/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-626/
  <guiverc> tweeted
  <Bashing-om> guiverc: Fridge: Spot check checks good - clear now to wipe Gdoc ?
  <guiverc> Yep, wipe away  (having got back from getting my coffee)
  <Bashing-om> guiverc: Wild_Man ^ doing.
  <guiverc> uwn 626 on fb too
  <Bashing-om> Gdoc: we do 627 :D
  -BottyMcBotFace:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: The Fridge: Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 626 @ http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2020/04/13/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-626/
  #ubuntu-news 2020-04-14
  -BottyMcBotFace:#ubuntu-news- ::Fridge:: Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 626 @ http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2020/04/13/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-626/ (by guiverc)
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  #ubuntu-news 2020-04-15
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  #ubuntu-news 2020-04-16
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  #ubuntu-news 2020-04-17
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  #ubuntu-news 2020-04-19
  <Bashing-om> UWN: Wiki627 up for review and final edits: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue627 :D
  