title: Django -vs- Grails -vs-?
body: <p>I'm wondering if there's such a thing as Django-like ease of web app development combined with good deployment, debugging and other tools? </p>
  
  <p>Django is a very productive framework for building content-heavy sites; the best I've tried and a breath of fresh air compared to some of the Java monstrosities out there. However it's written in Python which means there's little real support in the way of deployment/packaging, debugging, profilers and other tools that make building and maintaining applications much easier. </p>
  
  <p>Ruby has similar issues and although I do like Ruby <strong>much</strong> better than I like Python, I get the impression that Rails is roughly in the same boat at Django when it comes to managing/supporting the app. </p>
  
  <p>Has anyone here tried both Django and Grails (or other web frameworks) for non-trivial projects? How did they compare?</p>