title: Java-EE: Cleaner and simpler alternatives to JSF
body: <p>We are starting to develop a web application using Java EE 6.</p>
  <p>We got surprised with the complexity of the JSF's generated HTML. I mean even a simple link has some javascript handling code. and this is, in my opinion, a usability problem because browser's gestures (as &quot;ctrl+click&quot; over a link) simply doesn't work. Also, I'm suspecting this could get worse when we need to maintain that code or tweak the UI design with javascript frameworks like jQuery. it reassembles me: Webforms vs ASP.Net MVC. complexity against simplicity.</p>
  <p>Anyway this is my first time with JSF. so I really would like to read your experiences with it.</p>
  <h3>Do you know a simpler rendering engine for Java EE?</h3>
  <h3>How has your development experience with JSF been?</h3>
  <h3>Have you developed a web app using JSF and lots of jQuery/Dojo/Script.aculo.us?</h3>