title: New Project: Ruby on Rails or Symfony2 ( or other framework)
body: <p>I am about to start a new project and I am hung up on which language/framework to use. I've been a PHP programmer professionally, but it wasn't on the scale of this project. I've played around with RoR and i've been very impressed so far. Right now, the two leading candidtates are RoR and Symfony2.</p>
  
  <p>My major hang ups with RoR:
  - i don't know ruby, or i hardly do. i can read it ok, but get stuck writing the code.
  - i've read complaints about it being slow, and it seems to be slow just at the CLI.</p>
  
  <p>My major hang ups with Symfony2:
  - there's practically no documentation for it. Symfony1.x? sure..but not symfony2
  - there's also little support. the BB on their site is like 80% spam.
  - went to install it on a local dev enviroment haven't been able to even get that running (see my first hang up)</p>
  
  <p>this project will be fairly complex and go beyond the basic CRUD operations. it isn't under a super-tight timeline, but there is one. ~3 months for milestone1 which is basically a calendar, some financial organization stuff (not transactions with financial institutions, just personal finance organization type stuff), and a project manager/cms.</p>
  
  <p>also, i'm open to using other frameworks, but symfony2 seems to be the best right now. if symfony2 had RoR's support/documentation/tutorials/etc it would be a no brainer.</p>
  
  <p>i'm really interested in hearing what the stackoverflowverse has to say on the matter. im constantly impressed with the quality of the answers/replies on this site. </p>
  
  <p>some other sub-questions (that are in my head right now):
  - if you recommend a different php framework, why? 
  - what are you biggest gripes with any of the options mentioned?</p>
  
  <p>i know CakePHP is the closest to RoR, but i've been reading that the models are a bit wonky (Many to many relationships and such).</p>
  
  <p>right now, i'm leaning towards RoR. Simply put, i really want to learn it and it could do the job. i just don't know ruby and i've ready a lot of good about symfony2.</p>
  
  <p>any advice you could offer will be greatly appreciated. thanks!</p>