title: PHP Framework Speeds (Zend, Kohana)
body: <p>I'm new to OOP and frameworks, I've just gotten started with Zend and learned about Kohana 3 today, a smaller, more lightweight and "faster" framework. I probably don't even need all the features Zend has to offer and might make more sense to use Kohana. However, Zend seems to have more documentation, and somehow it seems easier for me to use.</p>
  
  <p>Now what I'm wondering is when people say Kohana is "fast" and when people say Zend is "slow", how fast and how slow are they? I'm not sure if you can compare it this way, but if I'm on a hosting plan that let's say can have 100 concurrent users with Kohana, with Zend (since it's slower), would I only be able to have about 90 users? Is the difference that small, or would it be something like 100 to 50?</p>
  
  <p>Also, when people call Zend slow, they are mostly relating to frameworks right? Once again it might be hard to compare, but is Zend slow compared to say a CMS like Drupal or Wordpress?</p>
  
  <p>It might be just basic estimates but do you think you can sort of show what you think may be the difference by showing a number besides the framework/CMS, it's easier for me to understand this way.</p>
  
  <p>For example:</p>
  
  <pre><code>Kohana - 100 (fastest)
  Zend - 70
  Wordpress - 60
  Drupal - 40 (slowest)
  </code></pre>
  
  <p>Edit:
  I agree that speed isn't everything which is the reason I'm still leaning towards sticking with Zend. I'm just curious to know how much faster Kohana really is. It looks like it's at least twice as fast. Now I just wonder how slow Zend is compared to a CMS. Let's say I have a basic user and content system with Zend vs. Drupal out of the box, Zend should still be at least faster than Drupal right? I've used Drupal before and it's quite slow... As long as Zend is faster than Drupal, I think I'll be happy.</p>