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Why are Haki attacks not effective on Marine admirals?

In the Marineford war, we see countless instances where Haki-imbued attacks
don't affect Marine admirals. When Marco and Vista attack Sakazuki, he even
acknowledges that they are Haki-imbued, but nothing apparently happens:

![Marco and Vista attacked Sakazuki](https://i.stack.imgur.com/3ZPz9.png)

Another case is when Whitebeard attacks Aokiji:

![Whitebeard attacks Aokiji](https://i.stack.imgur.com/gLO6j.jpg)

What's with the admirals? Their Logia powers don't seem to be easily affected
by Haki attacks. I mean we have many instances where Haki has _touched_ their
body, but still there are many instances where attacks on their body don't
result in damage. What's the deal with Marine admirals?


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Why are Haki attacks not effective on Marine admirals?


I think the only possible answer is that the Marine admirals' Haki is
stronger. If their **Kenbunshoku Haki** and **Busoshoku Haki** are stronger,
they can easy foresee or block Marco's or Vista's attacks.

And as you can see, Sakazuki got a scratch, so they aren't immortal at all.

I think this just shows **how strong** they really are (or how weak Marco and
Vista are :P).

**Another possibility** is that maybe they don't use Haki. I can't recognize
anything that looks similar to when Luffy is using Haki.


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I think you are wrong in saying that they weren't affected. They clearly were
affected as you can see from the wound on Sakazuki's shoulder. Since both
questions have a different answer, I'll reply one by one.

## Whitebeard vs. Kuzan

[![](https://i.stack.imgur.com/TObJYm.jpg)](https://i.stack.imgur.com/TObJY.jpg)

From [Kuzan](http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Kuzan#Marineford_Arc) article:

> He then got stabbed by Whitebeard's bisento, to which pirates are seen
> wondering if Aokiji was stabbed with Haki and if he was dead. Aokiji told
> them not to spout nonsense before grabbing the bisento and using his Ice
> Block Partisan attack. All of a sudden, Jozu attacks him and Aokiji is
> caught off-guard, even bleeding from his mouth.

As you can see, Aokiji was not hit by the Partisan, which was most likely
imbued by Haki. This is, because **he opened up a hole, where the partisan
would have hit, just before it would hit**. If he hadn't he probably would
have been stabbed to the heart. Marine admirals use their power smart and
efficiently, but it doesn't mean they can't be harmed. This can be seen just a
moment after, when Jozu attacked him with his diamond arm and he was seen
bleeding from his mouth.

## Marco and Vista vs. Sakazuki

[![](https://i.stack.imgur.com/sJI5Sm.jpg)](https://i.stack.imgur.com/sJI5S.jpg)

From [Busoshoku
Haki](http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Haki/Busoshoku_Haki#Drawbacks) article:

> Devil Fruit users who can use Haki can resist the effects of Haki-imbued
> attacks, Akainu was able to take Haki-imbued attacks while maintaining his
> intangibility by extending his Haki through his body in order to nullify his
> opponents bypass. This however depends on their level of mastery over Haki
> when compared to their opponent as can be seen when Akainu was in contrast
> harmed when attacked by Whitebeard's superior Haki and bled.

In chapter 784, it was confirmed that **Haki can be bypassed**. We can see how
Doflamingo hits Luffy with a Haki-imbued attack, yet Luffy kept his elasticity
during the whole event, bouncing Doflamingo's attack right back. The same must
have happened with Sakazuki. It looks like Vista and Marco did hit Sakazuki,
and he was affected, because he noticed the attack was different from that of
non-Haki users. Though, despite being hit with a Haki-imbued attack, he wasn't
harmed and could just reform his neck, because his Haki was superior. I guess
Haki is a bit like armor. If the level of an attack is lower than the
toughness of an armor, it will be unable to penetrate the armor, and unable to
touch the body hiding within the armor.

* * *

_The answer was updated due to wiki updates. Check the edit revision history
for the old answer._


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The admirals were also using Haki, so it was Sakazuki's Haki vs Marco and
Vista's Haki. That's why Akianu was also bleeding, but it did not hurt much
because both of them were using Haki.


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I think because Sakazuki's Haki is probably superior to Marco and Vista's
Haki, it appears as if he is not affected by their attacks.

To confirm whether the admirals are affected by Haki or not, let's take a look
at some cases where a **Haki of same or higher level** is used against the
admirals:

  1. [Aokiji was thrown away by Marco while attacking Luffy at Marineford](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYoTNFcm5dY).

  2. [Kizaru vs. Rayleigh](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmdWxPzOn9A) (probably same level Haki)

  3. [Sakazuki vs. Shanks](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6xjr1iqoSM) (same level Haki, or I think Shanks was on the defensive while using it).

So these cases prove that Haki does work on the admirals even though they are
Logia users, but the **level of Haki** is what makes the difference!


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