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In the non canon Dragon Ball heroes game, there is a transformation called
"Saiyan Beyond god" which is when you use god ki in base form
(white/transparent ki) . This transformation is stronger than a SSJ, SSJ2,
SSJ3, etc. Now the Dragon Ball heroes game is non canon, but this seems to fit
with the idea from Dragon Ball Super / Resurrection of F, Goku in base form is
able to fight 4th form Freezer, when Gohan super saiyan is defeated easily by
Freezer 1st form. And later Goku mentions he can become a super saiyan god
super saiyan because he is able to handle god ki and later transform into
super saiyan. Does this mean he was using god ki when fighting Freezer 4th
form, and that this base-looking form is stronger than turning into a regular
super saiyan?


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Does using god ki in base form makes you stronger than turning into super saiyan?


It was stated during the fight between Beerus and Goku that Goku had absorbed
god ki into his base form which had indeed made him significantly stronger.
Gohan, on the other hand, hadn't trained and his base form at the time was
nowhere close to even teen Gohan who fought Cell. So his SSJ multiplier to his
base form would've been very low. Freiza's first form was most likely stronger
than Namek saga SSJ Goku. However, Goku has gotten substantially stronger
since than and he was completely dominating the fight against final form
Freiza who had gotten a lot stronger.

The Golden Freiza multiplier is a lot higher than the Super Saiyan Blue
multiplier. This is why Golden Freiza was a lot stronger than Super Saiyan
Blue Goku despite Goku's base form being a lot stronger than Freiza.


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About the transformation **Saiyan Beyond God** , it seems to be a possible way
to using a new form of ki. The **divine ki** who Goku has acquired by fighting
**Beerus**.

Saiyans can use this ki rather than theirs to turn into a **Super Saiyan
form**.

This is visible by the blue hair color instead of the golden yellow classic
color also this ki seems to be stronger than the saiyans base form ki because
**Goku** is weaker than **Beerus** when he is into his base form.

So we can say using **divine ki** is stronger than using **saiyan's base form
ki**.


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God ki is stronger than every ki type out there unless you have trained for
your whole life or something. Very few have ever beat a person using god ki or
surpassed the whole thing of god ki. All of them were aliens besides Arale and
most of those aliens had to transform to do that. And Arale is a gag comic
character.

  * Acrosians: Golden Frieza
  * Saiyans: UI Goku, Broly, SSJ Kefla (fusion of kale and caulifla), Rose Goku Black
  * Kais: All of them
  * Demon: Super Janemba
  * Dragon: Omega Shenron
  * Unknown races: Jiren, Beerus, Zenos (for damn sure)


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