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In the anime, all Kumoko does is refuse Mother's (Mother is here referring to
the Queen Taratect who birthed Kumoko) order to come back to the Great Elroe
Labyrinth after finally escaping it. Is there some deep reason that spiders
aren't supposed to leave the labyrinth or something, important enough that it
would spark a conflict between Kumoko and Mother? It just seems really odd
they would both expend so much effort on one spider leaving.


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Why did Mother and the Demon Lord want to kill Kumoko?


# This confusion stems from differences in the anime and light novels

The source of their conflict is actually pretty straightforward, and this is
yet again another change in the anime that muddles the story a bit. In the
anime, Mother tries to control Kumoko using her Kin Control skill, trying to
get her to come back to the labyrinth, but Kumoko is immune by this point,
likely due to Heresy Nullification. Immediately after refusing the order, a
spider hit squad is sent after Kumoko, which she wipes out, and the conflict
thus begins.

Mother attacking straightaway in the anime like that definitely contributed to
making me think there was something mysterious going on, like some kind of
spider covenant to stay in the labyrinth or something along that nature, but
it's really not the case (not that I can really rule out something like that
exists, having only read up to volume 4). But there's one big difference in
the light novels that really makes this less of a mystery, and that is...

# Kumoko instigated this fight

In the anime, it is after the events I just mentioned that Kumoko begins her
psychic attack on Mother, but in the light novels, she begins it
**immediately** after discovering her psychic connection to Mother, which
happens even before her fight with the earth dragon Araba. This happens in
volume 3, and she mentions that it was Mother's influence that made her get
irritated at dragons, and that Mother only directly controls spiders that are
powerful, and thus she discovers the connection when Mother tries to control
her. Thus, while it cannot be said Kumoko wasn't provoked into the attack, she
is the one who instigated this fight, and everything Mother does from this
point on is just for self-preservation, as Kumoko's psychic assault definitely
will kill her given enough time.

# Demon Lord's Motivations

The Demon Lord Ariel's actions are directly tied to Mother's assault as well.
Mother is one of her descendants (probably a direct one). It's a bit unclear
what their relationship is exactly, but given spiders participate in
cannibalism of their kin, most likely she just thinks of Mother as a very
powerful ally, and wants to preserve her for this reason (it's said there are
only a handful of Queen Taratects in the world, but they're all considered
threats humans could never defeat).

> My assumption turned out to be wrong, as later volumes make it clear Ariel
> genuinely does care about her kin, even calling them her beloved children in
> some cases, and this is especially evident with regards to her puppet
> spiders and the lost Queen Taratect. She mourns the loss of her Queen
> Taratect, and even prays for her soul. Albeit, Ariel does still have the Kin
> Eater title.

Interestingly, Mother's Heresy Resistance is level 9 (see page 45 of volume
4), so it's unclear how well Ariel can actually control her, so it's possible
Mother is more of a willing minion. Though there's actually a bit of evidence
Ariel can control her, such as the passage below, so take my little theory
there with a grain of salt. Whatever their relationship, Ariel tries to kill
Kumoko to try and save Mother.

Further information on page 161 of volume 4:

> Hang on--why would a demon lord come to kill me anyway?
>
> No, I guess I already know.
>
> The Demon Lord's species name was origin taratect.
>
> The zenith of all taratects, who even Mother would have to obey.
>
> Just like my Parallel Mind told me in that emergency contact, she's even
> stronger than Mother, the monster we thought was the strongest of all.
>
> She must have gotten some kind of distress signal from Mother and come to
> eliminate me.
>
> Well, I guess my victory was only a matter of time, so it makes sense that
> Mother would request backup.

# Kumoko as instigator, again, with the Demon Lord

Volume 5 of the light novels actually shows the Demon Lord and Kumoko's first
encounter from the perspective of the Demon Lord, on page 152. Ariel politely
asks Kumoko to stop attacking the queen, but there's some miscommunication,
since Kumoko can't understand the language of the world. In Kumoko's chapter,
she tries to make gestures to indicate she can't understand, but Ariel
interprets these as a refusal.

> "Hi there. I'm your grandma."
>
> I jokingly introduced myself, approaching in a friendly manner.
>
> "Sorry to ask this right off the bat, but could you stop attacking the queen
> now, please?"
>
> Hearing that, the creature titled its head, then waved a leg from side to
> side.
>
> It refused.
>
> It must have tilted its head to imply that it didn't know why I would ask
> such a thing.
>
> "I see. I suppose I have no choice then."
>
> It's not that it didn't occur to me to try to bring the Ruler onto my team.
>
> However, I judged that it was too dangerous to leave this thing to its own
> devices.
>
> If it wasn't going to listen to me, I'd just have to crush it on the spot.

# If there's still any doubt that there's some big reason spiders can't leave
Elroe Labyrinth...

In volume 4, it's revealed that a Queen Taratect lives in the elven forest,
outside the barrier (and is one of the main reasons they need the barrier).
Another one was mentioned as having been used to destroy one of the human
forts in the Demon Army's big offensive (that was probably in volume 2 or 3).

# What about the anime?

Since things happen differntly in the anime, we probably have to say anime
Mother's motivations are a bit different. A reasonable conclusion is that
Kumoko disobeying her orders was irritating enough to her to send spiders to
attack her. The psychic assault later definitely still comes into play to
escalate their conflict and increase Mother's desperation to kill Kumoko. The
Demon Lord's motivations probably can be said to be more or less the same.


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