

When **Pain** appears in _Naruto Shippuden_ , there is always a good
background music named _Girei_ that is played.

I wanted to know the lyrics, so I looked it up on the net and found a few
results that state that the lyrics are in English. Here are the results I
found:

Version 1:

> As we forgive for love  
>  but we can not pull through  
>  if we can not forgive  
>  we all tribute to love

Version 2:

> As we forgive for love  
>  but we can not pull through  
>  if we can not forgive  
>  for our tribute true love

And Version 3 (the phonetic one):

> meh-shea-fu-ni coo-ma  
>  mah-ni-kay-nah-bow-coo  
>  ee-ee-kay-nah for-gee  
>  kor-ah-tay-boo troo- la or bah or ma

But I'm still convinced that the song is definitely Japanese.

Can anyone who is/knows Japanese confirm this?


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What are the Pain's theme song lyrics?


After some research myself I found there might be some Japanese in there. Take
note

  1. I ain't natively Japanese so there might be some mistakes. 
  2. There have been no official lyric releases. Its current label stands on Ambient, this might be the reason for that. 
  3. As it is stated that it is chanting, it might even be a non-existent language or a combination of several, as is more often used in different forms of chanting. Example: repeating of the word " _om_ " during meditation. 
  4. The composer [Toshio Masuda](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toshio_Masuda_%28composer%29) composed and synthesized the song, so it can also just be synthesized English.

Besides those 4 points, I tried to get a Japanese lyrics out of it based on
the phonetic version you gave and some parts by ear using [this
version](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThzDgZDQgcM) of the song and got to
something along those lines

[code]

    meh-shea-fu-ni coo-ma
    Me-ichi-fu-ni-ko-ma : 目 市 府 に 子 ま
    The top eye city office
    
[/code]

As this seemed most similar to the original phonetic I found this to be most
matching. I also found the translation to be very fitting to Pain

Had a bit more issues with the next part as I found several possibilities

[code]

    mah-ni-kay-nah-bow-coo
    Nani-kai boku : 何 会 僕 : What I Association
    Nan-kai boku : (placeholder) : How many times I
    Nan-i- kaina boku- : なん-位-会 な 僕 : What - position - a meeting I  : 
    
[/code]

I myself found the second one most fitting, but it felt as if some part was
missing.

[code]

    ee-ee-kay-nah for-gee
    Īe kata-nori : いいえ肩乗り 
    No shoulder ride
    
[/code]

Also the most fitting in context one I found

[code]

    kor-ah-tay-boo troo- la or bah or ma
    Kore wa-bu Tsu ~a : これ 和 部 津 ァ  
    This sum section §
    
[/code]

So the lyrics would end up something along the lines of

[code]

    The top eye city office
    What position I meet
    It is no shoulder ride
    This sum section
    
[/code]

This is the best I could make of it.


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Long shot, guys, but don't you think that if it's a chant it can be in
Chinese? For example like this:

[code]

    没师傅你哭吗    Méi shīfù nǐ kū ma
    那你可那波苦    Nà nǐ kě nàbō kǔ
    
[/code]

First two lines can be then read as such:

[code]

    Master didn't cry for you
    You can wave of that pain
    
[/code]

Then I'd go with Japanese/English line:

[code]

    いけない FORGIVE    Ikenai FORGIVE
    
[/code]

And that one means simply:

[code]

    Don't forgive
    
[/code]

The only thing I can't possibly get is the last line... It sounds Latin-ish,
but it can't be as there are no words fitting phonetically to these
syllables... It sounds between Japanese and some ancient European language...

What do you think, guys?


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I heard it as being poetic Japanese. Of course, I could be wrong.

> "Pein no Rikudo - OR - Me sei no Rikudo  
>  Aniki no boku  
>  Girei te no ronri  
>  Kono te boku wa"

Loosely translated:

> "Pain of the six paths - OR - Logical eye of the six paths  
>  Elder brother student to me  
>  The crying god's hand of logic  
>  This hand mine."

Remember, in poetry, typical sentence structure and word use does not always
apply.

My translation fits well with the story of Naruto in the Pein arc. Pein had it
all figured out supposedly, and Naruto, who had no answer to that logic yet
knew that it was wrong, stood against him anyway.

Pein literally referred to himself as Naruto's "Aniki", and later on, Naruto
refers to him as such.

In any case, I hope that my take on this is helpful. I know that a lot of
people have wanted an alternative to the other interpretations out there.


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> But I'm still convinced that the song is definitely Japanese.

Contrary to the premise of the question, I'm doubting that the lyric is in
Japanese.

Googling for combinations of 儀礼+歌詞 ( _Girei_ + _Lyric_ ) with ペイン, ナルト, and/or
疾風伝 ( _Pain_ , _Naruto_ , and/or _Shippuden_ ) didn't return any convincing
result that the lyric is in Japanese.

One of the top results was [Yahoo! Chiebukuro
(Japanese)](https://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q14160604139)
asking the same question, which was answered with a link to [Yamura Life's FC2
Blog (Japanese)](http://yamuralife.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-629.html) with the
same lyric mentioned on the question.

[NicoNicoDouga (Japanese)](http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11831799) video
also doesn't contain commenter's lyric (not even 空耳/"misheard lyric" which is
usually popular with song with unintelligible lyric)

"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence", but seeing that Japanese
people didn't even notice if the lyric is in Japanese (in addition to it being
poetic, or even archaic) could be a strong evidence that the lyric is not in
Japanese.

As for the "lyric" itself... probably the only one who knows is the composer,
Toshio Masuda. Considering the song is like a chant/hymn, an unintelligible
lyric is a possibility, or maybe it's actually a puzzle like [Final Fantasy
10's Hymn of the
Fayth](http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Hymn_of_the_Fayth_\(song\)#Lyrics).


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