66266


Since Itachi Uchiha always said complete truth, is it possible that he himself
knew the truth about Tobi being Obito and not Madara?


CC BY-SA 3.0
2015-06-27T11:48:35.733
22797
2022-01-26T05:00:01.480
2015-08-12T06:06:08.430
1398
3578
question
naruto
Is it possible that Itachi knew the truth about Tobi being Obito and not Madara?


Itachi clearly knew that Obito was the true leader of the Akatsuki, and he
also knew of and feared Obito's (Sharingan) abilities, hence placing his own
Mangekyo Sharingan on Sasuke and setting it so that Amaterasu activated when
in the vicinity of Obito's Sharingan. Additionally, Itachi also had knowledge
of his grudge against Konohagakure, which is why he confronted
Obito/Tobi/Madara before the Uchiha clan massacre. However, Itachi never
clearly states his knowledge of Obito's true identity, and also, Obito states
during his first encounter with Sasuke that Itachi clearly knew more than he
let on. It is never stated if Itachi knows that Tobi is Obito, but he clearly
knew a lot about Obito.


CC BY-SA 3.0
2015-08-12T02:52:32.103
24004
2015-08-12T02:52:32.103
16234
22797
answer


There is some evidence that Itachi at least knew that Obito was alive. After
Deidara and Sasuke fight, Kisame tells Itachi that Sasuke died and Itachi
states that Sasuke is alive and that, like, he knew that is him and Sasuke
weren't the only Uchihas left.


CC BY-SA 4.0
2016-03-25T03:18:19.413
30824
2022-01-26T05:00:01.480
2022-01-26T05:00:01.480
2516
22955
22797
answer


Itachi definitely knew that Tobi was an Uchiha, but there is little evidence,
if any, to say that he knew that Tobi was Obito. Why I think that Itachi would
know that Tobi wasn't the real Madara was because the amount of chakra
emanating from Tobi, when the real Madara was present on the battlefield
everyone knew about his presence.


CC BY-SA 3.0
2016-03-25T05:51:20.320
30829
2017-01-06T11:17:54.403
2017-01-06T11:17:54.403
8486
22960
22797
answer


Itachi is one of the smartest people in the anime. Itachi knew about Obito
from Kakashi when they were in one team in ANBU - The story of the Kakashi's
Sharingan. Itachi knew about the moment when Kakashi cut Deidara's hand. All
of Akatsuki knew about this situation.

And if you think more about that, from the story of Kakashi about his
Sharingan, Itachi is smart enough to know about Tobi's true identity. He will
understand that, if Kakashi has the same time-space as Mangekyo Sharingan,
like Obito, they have the same eyes, or just Obito is Tobi. Itachi isn't
foolish. Itachi was thinking about that things. That's the reason for
Amaterasu in Sasuke's eye, after Itachi's death.


CC BY-SA 4.0
2018-12-24T20:20:07.373
50189
2022-01-26T04:59:59.667
2022-01-26T04:59:59.667
2516
44036
22797
answer


While it is difficult to say whether Itachi later discovered Tobi was Obito,
the light novels _Itachi's Story_ make it clear that in the beginning he truly
believed that Tobi was Uchiha Madara.

His reasoning, from pages 53-54:

> Over the last three years, Itachi had wondered any number of times about the
> man's true identity. From what he could infer, Itachi had thought the man
> was perhaps a member of the Uchiha clan, but that changed to a certainty
> now.
>
> [...]
>
> When he thought about it like this, the possibilities naturally narrowed.
> **The first was that a member of the Uchiha clan thought to have died in the
> Great War had survived, and become the man in the mask. It was a general
> rule that if a member of the Uchiha clan died in battle, their sharingan
> would be brought home by another ninja. So, the man couldn't have stolen it
> from a corpse. In which case, it made sense to assume that someone thought
> to have died was alive, and coming to the compound with his sharingan still
> in his possession.**
>
> The second possibility was that the man in the mask was someone who had
> broken away from the Uchiha. This was less likely than the first option.
> Because since the founding of Konoha, only one man had ever broken away from
> the clan and left the village.
>
> _Uchiha Madara_...

And Itachi does end up going down the path of accepting Uchiha Madara is
alive, and concluding the masked man is him, due to the overwhelming chakra he
sensed, and the fact that Madara's death was never confirmed. I have also
noted in the text, a part where Itachi was actually going down the right path
with his thinking, one which might have led him towards Obito. Due to this, it
is possible Itachi figured it out later, given his time in the Akatsuki and
proximity to Toby.


CC BY-SA 4.0
2022-01-25T20:11:39.317
66266
2022-01-25T20:11:39.317
19307
22797
answer