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So in the new Dragon Ball Super Broly movie,

> Goku and Vegeta try to defeat Broly by fighting together in Super Saiyan
> Blue, but they dont use Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken and Super Saiyan Blue
> Evolution like they did to try to defeat Jiren

Why Goku and Vegeta didnt use Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken and Super Saiyan Blue
Evolution to defeat Broly?


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Why Goku and Vegeta didnt use Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken and Super Saiyan Blue Evolution to defeat Broly?


as far as, we were aware. we have seen nothing indicating that we will see
**blue evolution** in the movie that's does not mean we won't see it because
it's unlikely TOI have released all the information regarding the movie and
not shown anything regarding super safe through evolution. so, we'll taking
about whether or not reprise this transformation in the future dragon ball or
be aiming for something else entirely to compete with those whose potential
**ultra instinct** transformation we all know at some point you will get back
but before we begin a quick in past fight of dragon ball super. Goku fought
with Jiren in super Saiyan blue and kaiken but all in vain and finally he used
ultra instinct with this he was nearer/definitely to Jiren defeat. in all the
series and movies the new villain is stronger than previuos one. I know you
all are thinking ,Jiren is not a enemy but he is main thread to universe 7.
this shows broly is much stronger there will no need of SSB or SSB kioken


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The SSJB + Kaioken Transformation and the SSBE transformation were introduced
by Toei and not Toriyama. Although the movie is being produced by Toei, they
probably have less influence on the movie unlike the show.

Secondly(Note: This is a personal opinion), the movie is mainly focused around
SSJB Gogeta defeating Broly. Hence, having Goku/ Vegeta use SSJB +Kaioken and
SSBE would in a way disturb the flow of the movie. In the sense, it has been
revealed that Gogeta is slowly going to ascend from transformation to
transformation and fight Broly. Having the two additional transformations
would disrupt this flow and at the same time might overscale Broly a little
too high. Plus, if you look back at Goku/ Vegeta vs Merged Zamasu, Goku
doesn't really go Kaioken at all in the Goku Black arc(Despite being
overpowered)(Except the 1 time to break out of Merged Zamasu's hold). Then we
see Vegito Blue in action.


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The reason for Kaioken not being used is because both Goku and Vegeta mastered
SSB. That's why you see red flames and a dark blue aura around both Goku and
Vegeta and even Gogeta, so since they mastered that form there's no need for
Kaioken to be added, just like when Goku mastered Super Saiyan he didn't need
to use Kaioken to boost his power level with his mastery of that form he's
stronger now than with Kaioken added.


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