

This question pertains to One Piece.

> I know that Skypians, Birkans, and Shandorians came from the moon. But they
> should've been technologically advanced right? But Shandorians like Calgara
> seem to be a small tribe with zero knowledge of poneglyphs etc. Also, they
> seem to believe in rituals/superstition etc even though they were once an
> advanced civilization that lived on the moon. Also, they seem way too
> backward in terms of science and technology. How did that happen?

Also if that's true, then are Poneglyphs a way to find out the story about
earth or moon?


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Was Shadorian Civilization technologically advanced?


## My theory

The Shadorians were a tribal race launched into the very sky by a strange
Grand Line current known as the "Knockup Stream." They were soon attacked for
their land by the Skypian Warriors. The Shandorians were unprepared as they
weren't as technically advanced as the Warriors of Skypiea. But they had more
combat experience. Despite the leader of the Shandorians, Kalgara, terrible
death at the hands of the Warriors, the war still ended in a tie with all
Skypian Warriors dying or being stolen by Eneru/Enel/Kami but the Shandorians
never got back Shandora. Fast forwards a few years and the Skypian Warriors
are back with a more powerful Leader, ensuing a new war. Then, after centuries
of this sky battle, Luffy and Company appear, starting the Skypiean saga we
all know and love. Their use of dials wer just stolen equipment from their
enemy used in a way only for combat.


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TL;DR Was the ancient Shandorian civilization technologically advanced? Likely
although not confirmed.

To understand the ancient Shandorian civilization there's a lot of lore that
needs to be understood about the One Piece timeline, the moon peoples, their
successors and the void century.

Over the course of the cover story "[Enel's Great Space
Operations](https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Enel%27s_Great_Space_Operations)"
spanning Ch 428-474 we learn of the ancient moon civilization, the Birkans
including their history, impressive technology and the reason they eventually
had to leave. To summarize, long ago there was a civilization of winged moon
people called the Birkans whose technological feats included sentient robots
and ships capable of interplanetary travel. Running out of resources on the
moon they used these aforementioned ships to carry them down to the White sea
with one particular group making it all the way down to the Blue sea.

[![Birkans leave the
moon](https://i.stack.imgur.com/tW83N.png)](https://i.stack.imgur.com/tW83N.png)

The descendants of the moon people can be identified by the wings on their
backs which include the White sea civilizations of
[Skypiea](https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Skypiea) and
[Birka](https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Birka) (Enel's homeland, not to be
confused with the ancient moon civilization), and the Blue sea Shandorian
civilization on the island of Jaya. When did the moon people come down to the
Blue sea? We do not know exactly but according to the tombstone for the city
of Shandora Robin translates in Ch 261

[![Rise and Fall of
Shandora](https://i.stack.imgur.com/fIM9t.png)](https://i.stack.imgur.com/fIM9t.png)

the city of Shandora prospered in the year 402 (~1100 years ago) meaning it
was settled by the moon people some time before then and fell ~800 years ago
which places its fall around the tail end of the Void Century. In Ch 272 Robin
translates some text inside the city of Shandora written in the language of
the Poneglyphs,

[![Erasure of Shandorian
history](https://i.stack.imgur.com/KcPM4.png)](https://i.stack.imgur.com/KcPM4.png)

The text refers to how the city of Shandora fought to protect its Poneglyph
against an enemy and as a result, their civilization was destroyed and their
history erased. While some people survived and became the
[Shandians](https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Shandia) the Shandorian
civilization was gone, their golden city fell to ruin and their history and
literature was lost in the void.

Speaking of the void and the fall of Shandora, what happened in the Void
Century? I have no idea and that's kind of the point, just about nobody knows
what happened in the Void Century. What we do know is that it was a period of
history that started ~900 years ago and lasted around 100 years. While
historical records exist of the time before and after the Void Century, what
happened during these hundred years can only be found on the Poneglyphs.
Researching the Poneglyphs/Void Century is forbidden by the World Government
and punishable by death. In Ch 395, Professor Clover of Ohara reveals a basic
overview of what he thinks happened,

[![The Void
Century](https://i.stack.imgur.com/wBufF.png)](https://i.stack.imgur.com/wBufF.png)

We do not know if the great civilization he was referring to was Shandora but
we do know the World Government is entirely capable of suppressing all
knowledge of a once great civilization and that Shandora fell during this
time. Meaning Shandora was once a powerful civilization and may or may not
have been technologically advanced but due to being erased from history we
CANNOT know if this was the case.

In the main story of One Piece, in the year 1122 (~400 years ago and 400 years
after the fall of Shandora) we are introduced to the Shandians through the
first hand accounts of Mont Blanc Noland (Ch 287-293). The Shandians are
descendants of the Shandorians but are a rather low tech society bearing none
of the hallmarks of the ancient Birkan civilization (robots and flying ships).
They live in a village quite far away from the ruins of Shandora. In 1127,
they are launched along with half of Jaya by the [Knock Up
Stream](https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Knock_Up_Stream) into the White sea
island of Skypiea.

One thing to note is that while the Shandian's don't seem to have much of the
moon people technology, Enel's flying ship he uses to reach the moon is
reminiscent of the moon peoples ship and given he's from Birka they may have
had the blueprints/knowledge of interplanetary ships inherited from the moon
people.


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