

This season's _Pandora in the Crimson Shell: Ghost Urn_ is a work created in
part by Masamune Shirow - the same fellow behind _Ghost in the Shell_. Much to
my chagrin, I haven't gotten around to watching _Ghost in the Shell_. But I do
know bits and pieces about it, and there seem to be some surface-level
similarities to _Pandora in the Crimson Shell_ (which is airing right now, and
which I'm watching).

Obviously, the title, for one (both in English and Japanese - _Koukaku
Kidoutai_ vs. _Koukaku no Pandora_ ); _Pandora_ has "Gerzekoma" robots while
_Ghost_ has "Tachikoma" robots; and the whole focus on cybernetics and the
line between humans and machines.

Do these surface-level similarities reflect any material relationship between
the two? (e.g. is _Pandora_ an alternate-universe to _Ghost_ , or a
"meanwhile, in this other part of the world" story, or something?) Or is it
just that Masamune Shirow chose to write about similar themes in two otherwise
unrelated manga?


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Is there any material relationship between "Pandora in the Crimson Shell" and "Ghost in the Shell"?


In a sense, **yes** , they are on the same universe with _Ghost in the Shell:
Arise_ , which is the prequel to the original _Ghost in the Shell_
manga/movie.

The [TVTropes's
article](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Manga/PandoraInTheCrimsonShellGhostUrn)
**(Warning, TVTropes link!)** mentioned some background about it:

> _Pandora in the Crimson Shell: Ghost Urn_ (紅殻のパンドラ / Koukaku no Pandora) is
> a cyberpunk action comedy manga **based on an unused concept of Masamune
> Shirow (designs of which would eventually be re-used in Ghost in the Shell:
> Arise)**.
>
> (Emphasis mine)

Researching further on [Japanese
Wikipedia](https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%B4%85%E6%AE%BB%E3%81%AE%E3%83%91%E3%83%B3%E3%83%89%E3%83%A9)
also mentioned about its relation/connection with _[Ghost in the Shell:
Arise](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_in_the_Shell:_Arise)_ ,

> **Relation with _Ghost in the Shell: Arise_**  
>  
>  At the time when it was originally planned, the title was supposed to be
> _Ghost Urn_ with its plot having the same background setting as _Ghost in
> the Shell: Arise_ ( _GitS:Arise_ ). In the original plot, Uzal Delilah
> (Sahar Schehera) who was supposed to be the same person with Dr. Zhinzhee
> Bekka Arr Thied who appeared in chapter 3 & 4 of _GitS:Arise_ ; Clarion, and
> BUER were supposed to appear in _GitS:Arise_. Moreover, _GitS:Arise_ 's
> character Kurtz was originally _Ghost Urn_ 's character, with Ian Kurtz as
> her equivalent character.  
>  
>  The setting took place years after Uzal and their companion moved to
> Cenancle Island and were living there after the incident in _GitS:Arise_.
> The illustration of the original plot that appears at the end of its
> tankobon not only shows Kurtz, but also cyborgs who protect Dr. Thied, Nami
> Hozumi, and other characters who become the model for _GitS:Arise_ 's
> characters.  
>  
>  However, _Ghost Urn_ anime project was suspended due to various
> circumstances. When KADOKAWA restarted the project, this time with manga,
> the setting and characters were recomposed. In addition to that, the setting
> became pre- _GitS:Arise_ , and characters who were supposed to be the same
> in both series were separated totally. Finally, the title was changed to
> _Pandora in the Crimson Shell: Ghost Urn_.


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