

We already know that Madara had fought Hashirama at the Valley of the End, and
got some of his power.

How did we get from that to the fact that he has his face on his shoulder? Is
this Orochimaru/Kabuto's doing? Or is that a natural thing that somehow
occurred?


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How exactly did Madara get Hashirama's power?


Orochimaru helped Madara get that face as well as develop the Rinnegan. This
is partially why Madara activated the Rinnegan so late in his life; Orochimaru
was the brain in the operation. As you can see, Orochimaru knew a lot of
secrets, including Danzou's condition and Tobi's true identity.

There are small hints as the manga progresses all leading up to this point.
Madara doesn't explicitly state it (in the below picture), but we know it is
Orochimaru based on his research, Kishimoto's hints throughout the manga, and
the fact Madara never met Kabuto before this war.

The underling is Obito and the acquaintance is Orochimaru (Ch. 657). ![enter
image description here](https://i.stack.imgur.com/S6xyz.jpg)

UPDATE: Here is the proof that Madara didn't know Kabuto. In the last 2 panels
of the above pic, it is pretty much implied that Madara met a person (while he
was alive) that showed him how to use his current technique. That person can
only be Orochimaru.

<http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Kw3h3qH3iMg/TqlOW7PBdKI/AAAAAAAAGQM/jfPgdY5Do1w/008.jpg?imgmax=2000>


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![enter image description here](https://i.stack.imgur.com/S6xyz.jpg)

Here he meant,

  1. An acquaintance of an underling of mine

    * Kabuto (acquaintance of underling, Tobi)
  2. Others who mulled over similar idea 

    * Orochimaru (experimented over Danzou)

Kabuto was the one who resurrected Madara. He could have managed to fuse and
modify Madara's body as per his will and wish (just a theory). And Madara
didn't die having Hashirama's face on his chest, which means this power was
gained only after he was revived.

Kabuto while fighting with Itachi and Sasuke did indeed show his skills of
fusing different persons' cells in himself. That makes us believe that he
might have played around with Madara's corpse before he summoned him.

But the phrase `I learnt` said by Madara makes us think that, may be the
Kabuto's craft work was imperfect and something that Madara composed later
during the battle.

But all the above statements are just theories and vaguely supported by
evidence. Kishi is one tricky guy :)


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I would assume it could be Orochimaru, because these experiments were
definitely done while Madara was still alive. Madara was kept alive up til old
age because the Gedo Mazou was supporting him, and at that time his Rinnegan
was already implanted in Nagato, so that must mean he had the Senju cells
before his death in order to get those eyes. Orochimaru is alive at the time
that Obito was saved by Madara, and this was around the time he began to
conduct his expirements. I wouldn't say he saved Madara during his fight with
Hashirama but he definitely fits the part where Madara said he was taught that
by an acquaintance of an underling; Orochimaru was a part of Akatsuki and
obviously acquainted with Obito, and I'm pretty sure Orochimaru would keep all
his intel on the low from everyone, being alive before Madaras death I bet he
wouldn't tell obito that much of his past expirements


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The underling is Obito and the acquaintance is kabuto, the two were working
together during the fourth shinobi war, when Kabuto ressurected madara he told
him that he had brought him back better than his glory days, in other words,
during his fight with hashirama in which he took hashirama's flesh and
implanted it into himself, but he didn't obtain the power until he was at a
very old age, what Kabuto did was take the power the madara got from
hashirama's cells in his old age and implant them into a younger version of
madara, making Kabuto the one responsible for the current madara having
hashirama's power


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