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So BB was born with the Shinigami eyes because a Shinigami dropped it's
eyeballs. But how is this even possible? Did the Shinigami ripped out his eyes
and then let them fall down to Earth? I just don't get it.

Also, if a human touched the eyes of a Shinigami, would he then also get
Shinigami eyes?


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How can a Shinigami drop its eyeballs?


a Shinigami dropping it's eyeballs is just something Mello thought of

> It is unknown how he could have possibly been "born" with the eyes, though
> Mello wonders if a Shinigami dropped its eyeballs to Earth (instead of a
> Death Note)

[Source](http://deathnote.wikia.com/wiki/Beyond_Birthday#Character) \-
Character, 3rd Paragraph, 3rd Sentence

and since Beyond Birthday only appeared in [Death Note: Another
Note](http://deathnote.wikia.com/wiki/Death_Note:_Another_Note) which occurs
before the manga (L's first encounter with Naomi Misora during the Los Angeles
"BB Serial Murder Case" mentioned in volume 2 of the manga) i can really only
answer this from logical evidence, absent of any official statement and
assuming that Mello is correct.

I would suspect but rather than a Shinigami taking it's eyes out on it's own
(which are used to allow Shinigami to work out how much life they will gain
from taking a life), we can make the assumption that a Shinigami died.

How we know of 2 ways a Shinigami can die

  * they fail to extend their own life by taking names
  * they save the life of a human who's death date had arrived

When a Shinigami dies they turn to sand/dust however this isn't instantaneous,

  * [Rem's Death: Death Note - The Last Name](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xmwo32RDd04&t=1m44s)
  * [Gelus Death: Death Note Anime](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6md42qs14k&t=2m56s)

as we can see from the links above, Rem began to crumble first however Gelus's
eye disappeared first

we also know that there is a
[Portal](http://deathnote.wikia.com/wiki/Portal_to_the_Human_World) which
allows travel between the Shinigami Realm and earth. i theorize 2 ways that
the Shinigami Beyond Birthday got the eyes from died

  1. said Shinigami saved a human which would explain why they were at the portal

  2. said Shinigami was sooo lazy that it waited to the last minute to take a name to add more life and couldn't take a life quick enough before it died

now while we are told that Shinigami are lazy i don't think they are that lazy
not to write names (though Ryuk does note this to Light) so i'm going to
assume 1)

regardless, the Shinigami's eyes could have dropped out of it's head and
rolled out of the portal which could explain why the eyeballs were dropped and
not the Death Note (as we see in The Last Name Gelus's Death Note fell to
earth however in the anime it didn't).

So then how did Beyond Birthday get the eyeballs? well it was either by
coincidence or since Beyond Birthday was at [Wammy's
House](http://deathnote.wikia.com/wiki/Wammy%27s_House) said Shinigami saved
Beyond Birthday at birth by saving his mother who may have been pregnant and
was about to be murdered.

> Also, if a human touched the eyes of a Shinigami, would he then also get
> Shinigami eyes?

this i can't answer, i would assume the timeframe is very small because the
eyeballs would have turned into sand/dust and Beyond Birthday was just very
lucky to have gotten them before hand because if it was a living Shinigami's
eyes, well the sight of Light running around with a bag of apples trying to
get Ryuk top allow him to poke his eyes, or Misa looking all cute and asking
Ryuk if she can doesn't quite match the tone of the series


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Another interpretation: Mello was just embellishing, and B didn't really have
the Shinigami Eyes.

There's an analysis about _Another Note_ in [this blog
post](http://casuistor.tumblr.com/post/148952957111/thoughts-on-another-note)
that touches on this subject. The analysis doesn't particularly argue for or
against the position of whether B really had the Shinigami Eyes (both are
canon compliant), but it should be noted:

> As a narrator, Mello is unreliable. He states opinions as though they are
> fact – incidentally I think this is IC for him based on his characterization
> in the manga – which is what leads to a lot of confusion that we, the
> readers, have to sort through.

Some observations from that analysis:

  * If B didn't have the Shinigami Eyes, that wouldn't change a single objective fact about the LABB case.
  * Details like B practicing laughing in a mirror or him experimenting with internal hemorrhage are something that Mello could only know from speaking to B himself. But, it's doubtful that Mello personally interviewed B or Naomi given the canon timeline. So, it's more likely that Mello just took a lot of creative license when writing the characters for this story.
  * Given that Shinigami are not allowed to interfere with human lives except by Death Note, and given that the Shinigami were shown to be extremely apathetic and indifferent to the human world, it's seems unlikely that Shinigami would feel inclined to (somehow) give some human on Earth the Shinigami Eyes.


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