

> Kuma seems to have a good enough relationship with Vegapunk. Vegapunk was
> able to grant him his final wish as a human being, which was to program Kuma
> to protect the Straw Hats ship until their return. It is very likely that
> Vegapunk highly respects Kuma's strength, as he modified Kuma to be the
> prototype Pacifista, and he let Kuma do things that go against the World
> Government, as well as granting him his last wish by including a mission
> into his programming that Kuma himself had requested.

It is even shown that the bible he holds is his trademark. If that is true why
would he sacrifice his consciousness along with his humanity if he lived life
cherishing something that very much so represented humanity, freedom and free
will?

If he much admired the prospect of free will, going as far as wanting his last
wish to protect the Straw Hats ship, why would he even agree to losing his
humanity and getting modified to a fully-fledged Pacifista?

Is it ever mentioned or is it just some extremely personal relationship stuff
shared between Vegapunk and Kuma?


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Why did Bartholomew Kuma allow Vegapunk to turn him fully into a pacifista?


I believe Kuma did this for Dragon. If Vegapunk does not like the WG we could
see Vegapunk give control of the pacifista and Kuma when the time comes. I
dont think he would willingly do this to help the wg as he directly opposes
it.


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well first things first, he's one of the Revolutionary Army, and I thinks he's
willing to do everything for the sake of their Army, willingly turning himself
into a Pacifista "may be" a voluntary action by himself to earn the full trust
of the WG (again, he willing to do everything for the army's sake right??) and
on my understanding, Dragon is a very good leader and would not force his
nakama like Kuma to be a cyborg just for the army..and on that finals request
to Vegapunk for his final modification, it is still unclear why Vegapunk allow
that to happen since he's under the WG and knows that Luffy is a pirate, he
must really respect Kuma as a colleague so he grant his request or knew Dragon
or Garp in the past to grant that kind of request which is of course against
the WG ideals.


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An explanation is that after rescuing straw hats at sabaody, he was defeated
by Kizaru and captured in seastone cuffs. After that he probably received
death penalty, but since hes a pacifista project he was probably sent to
vegapunk to have his brain removed.

His capture and punishment was not mentioned somewhere in the manga/anime.

However, this is a VERY PLAUSIBLE theory on why Kuma was turned into a full
pacifista. Certainly a more plausible theory than the 'he did this for
dragon', or 'dragon ordered him to do so' nonsense theories that are floating
around in this discussion, neither of which are mentioned anywhere in canon
either.

It is highly unlikely Kuma was willingly turned into a full pacifista. Some
people posted here that 'he did this for Dragon', 'Dragon ordered him to do
so'. What? How would doing so benefit Dragon and revolutionaries? How would it
benefit Kuma himself (obviously won't since he would be dead?) What other
POSSIBLE incentive that world govt offered him or the revolutionary that could
be so great, that it would outweigh the consequence of him being dead?
Probably none. Therefore it leads to conclusion that the government forced
that choice upon him. Straight up executing him most likely wouldn't have been
an attractive option, since they would need as many shichibukai on their side
to face against whitebeard. Therefore all these points toward my theory - that
Kuma was punished for opposing the marines and an admiral from carrying out
the order to purge the tenryuubito's attackers. Thats why world govt most
likely decided to fully transform Kuma into a pacifista in order to both
punish him and turn him into a fully loyal slave.

Kuma was certainly aware that this would be his punishment, thats why he
stated that this will be the last time he will meet the strawhats.

Vegapunk most likely was in a good relationship with Kuma and likely did not
want to turn him into a full cyborg either, but he had to do so under the
pressure from the world govt. Thats why Vegapunk likely programmed in Kuma's
request to protect the Sunny.


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