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I had never heard the word "oranyan" before reading [this
question](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/2976/are-there-any-anime-
that-play-out-from-a-oranyan-protagonists-point-of-view). The question made it
sound like the term referred to a male tsundere.

I searched this site for more mentions of "oranyan", but only found the linked
question. I Googled for more info, but the only results I found aside from
[this TV Tropes page on
tsundere](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Tsundere?from=Main.Oranyan)
and the question I linked above referred to the mythical founder of the Oyo
Empire of Yoruba, which I'm pretty sure has nothing to do with the anime
meaning of this term. The TV Tropes page just says "oranyan" is another word
for "tsundere" which "is sometimes used to refer to a male tsundere character
--incorrectly since it means the complete opposite".

TV Tropes's reputation for accuracy aside, the linguist in me wants to nitpick
that statement because of its implicit prescriptivist assumptions about
"correct" use of language; for this question, I'm going to ask that answers
take the linguist's viewpoint and define "oranyan" as whatever the majority of
people think "oranyan" means, and to please explain the situation if no
majority definition exists, or if the majority definition differs between
Japanese and Western fans.

So, here's what I'm curious about:

  * What's the etymology of the term "oranyan"? 
  * Is there any basis to TV Tropes's claim that it means the exact opposite of 'male tsundere'?
  * In the common usage of the term, is there some difference in meaning from 'tsundere' aside from the sex of the character?


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Can someone explain the term "oranyan"?


I don't know how accurate my answer is because the content described below are
taken from discussion and some source.

[Source 1](https://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=22238&page=1)
post#422937.

> Oranyan is a term used to describe male characters that are rude to
> everyone, but can be kind to those he loves. The word is derived from "ora"
> which is supposed to sound like shouting and "nyan" which is equivalent to
> "meow."

[Source
2](http://bangin.wordpress.com/2008/04/22/%E3%82%AA%E3%83%A9%E3%83%8B%E3%83%A3%E3%83%B3oranyan/)

> Tsukimori Ren in Kin-iro no Corda or Wolfram in Kyou kara maou could be. But
> is there any other saying? Yes…that is オラニャン[oranyan].
>
> In fact, this was not born in the otaku society, but kogals’ circles. To get
> to the point, オラニャン is an abbreviation form of オラオラニャンニャン[ora-ora nyan-
> nyan]. I can’t translate it! オラオラ[ora-ora] sounds like a rude guy’s
> shouting. Maybe you could hear this in such a delinquent boys’ story like
> Gokusen, Bebop High-School or something like that. Well, how can I put
> it…sounds like “Oi! Oi!”?? They would say like 行くぜオラァ！[ikuze, oraa!, let's
> go, guys!]. オラオラ金出せや！[ora-ora, kane dase ya!, Oi oi, give fucking money,
> eh?].
>
> Meanwhile, ニャンニャン[nyan-nyan] is actually a cat’s mew-mew. Caught on, haven’t
> you? Although he is so cheeky and rude in front of everybody else, he would
> be very sweet to a girl who he loves. Probably he could be still sweet even
> when others are there. In this case, it might be called as オラデレ[oradere].

[Source 3](http://animeyume.com/blog/2011/10/23/my-favorite-anime-character-
trope/)

> Contrary to what some may think, there are male tsunderes. Inuyasha, Kyo
> (Fruits Basket), Shaoran (Cardcaptor Sakura), and Ed (Fullmetal Alchemist)
> are some examples. They’re sometimes called “Oranyan,” and though not as
> famous as the female types, they’re certainly there.

Some other character are [Len
Tsukimori](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_La_Corda_d%27Oro_characters#Len_Tsukimori)
from **La Corda d'Oro** , [Wolfram von
Bielefelt](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Kyo_Kara_Maoh!_characters#Wolfram_von_Bielefelt)
from **Kyo Kara Maoh!**. And if you try to Google like **Oranyan anime term**
, you will see most of the link containing term **Male Tsundere (Oranyan)**.

This justify that the term Oranyan as synonyms of Tsundere for male
characters. Since it comes from "ora ora" and "nyan nyan", there's nothing to
the claim that it means the opposite of "male tsundere".


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It is derived from ora, which is to shout or roar, and Nyan, which is a cats
meow. It is the male version of a tsundere, where someone is at first
confrontational and off putting, but slowly warms up to them. Just like how
Tsundere is derived from tsun tsun (turn away in disgust) and dere dere (to
show affection). It’s an analogy of a lion turning into a kitten.


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