

At the end of _JoJo Part 6: Stone Ocean_ , did Emporio get sent to a parallel
universe? Is this the same universe that _SBR_ and _JJL_ then take place in?
The Wikia says that the universe is reset. What really happened? I'm so
confused.


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What really happened at the end of Stone Ocean?


My interpretation was that civilizations came and went with time's
acceleration, effectively resetting the universe. The next part, _Steel Ball
Run_ , arguably has a major plot point related to this.

I'd guess there's a decent article somewhere.

Here's a quote from JoJo Wikia.
(<https://jojo.wikia.com/wiki/Alternate_Universe>)

> Made in Heaven increases the speed or rate of the flow of time; achieved
> through its ability to control the gravitational forces of the earth, moon,
> and seemingly the entire universe (in reference to aspects of the theory of
> relativity).
>
> As time continues to travel, the universe will hit a "vanishing point", and
> a new universe will be created, where everything repeats itself, according
> to "fate".The Stand's user may then alter the characteristics of the
> universe and the fates of the people in the recreated universe and create
> the perfect world they desire.
>
> In the story, just after Enrico Pucci's death at the hands of Emporio Alnino
> and the Stand Weather Report, the universe completes a second cycle. In this
> renewed world, characters of seemingly very similar identities to Jolyne,
> Hermes, Anasui and Weather Report fortuitously gather in Emporio's
> proximity.


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Some years ago I shared your confusion, and I kept thinking and thinking until
I found an answer I was satisfied with. I also wrote this "answer" in an
Italian forum I was part of at that time. To be fair, it did not receive very
much attention, but I want to translate it because I think it could be of some
help (I doubt it to be correct because I believe H. Araki's brain creations
are too much for anyone to understand).

Here I go:

Father Pucci makes the universe collapse by means of the powers of his Made in
Heaven. Then, the universe rises again for another cycle of life. The
interesting fact, which H. Araki himself explains to us, is that this new
cycle will be exactly the same as the one before except for the fact that all
the living beings that are actually alive when the collapse takes place will
return in the second cycle of life with full knowledge of their future. This
consciousness of the future is how Father Pucci believes happiness will be
achieved by mankind.

The new history of the universe will be written in such a way as to preserve
the faith of who was alive before the first collapse operated by Father Pucci
through Made in Heaven. Details will obviously change, but the main part of
their faiths will be unaltered. As for the dead, something similar happens in
the sense that their new lives will be somehow "connected" with the lives of
those with whom they were connected in the first cycle, but there will be no
clear knowledge of their faith in them.

It is clear that Father Pucci is the only living being which is outside of the
"written faith", and he can move arbitrarily in the cycle of the new universe
because of the gravitational powers of Made in Heaven. Since Father Pucci
knows that Emporio is alive before the collapse, he decided to close the
situation once and for all, and goes back to the prison (during the second
cycle of the universe) in order to kill the little guy.....and this is where
Father Pucci makes his big mistake.

Emporio manages to survive Father Pucci's threat precisely because Father
Pucci is immune to Made in Heaven's powers. Indeed, we know that the details
of the lives of those who were alive before the first collapse may change, and
this clearly allows Emporio to have some kind of mental and physical freedom
with which he is able to think of a plan to kill Father Pucci. Furthermore, we
know that Father Pucci's faith is completely open, there is no predestination
for him because it is his will to actively keep using his powers the reason
for everyone else's fixed faith. This means that, even if Father Pucci can
literally decide the faith of the universe, nothing prevents him from dying
like the idiot he surely does not want to be.

Then, he dies, of course.

Before dying, Father Pucci decides to accelerate time again, hoping to prevent
the result of Emporio's plan (his death) before it actually realizes. All he
succeeds to do is setting a third cycle of the universe, a cycle of which he
will no longer be a part. However, Emporio was alive at the time of the second
collapse, hence, he will be fully conscious in the third cycle, and thus he
tries to reconnect with the group. He finds Irene and Anakis, the "alter-ego"
of Jolyne and Anasui, who, however, do not have Emporio's knowledge of their
faith and are not able to remember him (they were dead before the first
collapse).

In this third cycle, Father Pucci is no longer there because he died at the
end of the second cycle, and thus we may safely assume that there will be
again a lot of freedom for everyone. Accordingly, I believe that _SBR_ takes
place in this third cycle, because, if it had taken place during the second
cycle, there would have been Father Pucci somewhere in the universe, and this
would have made the plot of _SBR_ meaningless with respect to the "fixed
faith" imposed by Made in Heaven.

Now that I wrote it again, I feel better.

* * *

**Remark**

At the time of my writing now (26 January 2019), I have not yet started
reading _JoJolion (Part 8)_ , hence, I do not know what happens there.

The following edit has been suggested by someone who is reading _JoJolion_ ,
and I thought it could be meaningful to add it because it seems to disprove my
"theory" on the end of _Stone Ocean_. However, I reserve my right to re-edit
this answer once I read _JoJolion_ and I have thought about it, and I warn
people who have not read _JoJolion_ that the following suggested edit contains
information that may be perceived as a spoiler.

**End remark**

_**Peer edit**_

Many readers believe that in _JoJolion (Part 8)_ , the theory that the _Steel
Ball Run_ universe takes place in a cycle of Made in Heaven was disproven, as
the complete Joestar family tree is shown, and there is no Jotaro nor Irene.
However, we as readers do not know Araki's intentions and it is very possible
Irene, despite the birthmark, is no longer a Joestar, leaving it up in the
air.

Many believe this is because the _Steel Ball Run_ universe is a completely
different universe. The third cycle of Made in Heaven is its own universe.
Leading to the conclusion that the _SBR_ -verse and Ireneverse have no
correlation whatsoever.


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My theory on this is that Pucci's speed ability creates an alternate universe.
This would make sense because we clearly figured out that Johnny Joestar is
the Alternate Universe's Jonathan.

It is confusing why they didn't continue with the original people. I mean, we
don't know if Jotaro and Jolyne are even dead because we are left with a
cliffhanger, and we are still waiting for _Part 9_ because of the new _Part 6_
anime coming out.


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I just finished all the current JoJo story and I was thinking about _Part 6_.
The end left me thinking if this was a good ending or a bad ending for both
the Joestars and Pucci.

What I understood is that the ending isn’t in an alternate universe at all.
With Father Pucci’s stand, he was able to increase the ‘speed of time’ kinda.
This made it so that all life and remains of life on earth were destroyed.
Like, he lessened the time it would take for life to meet its demise. Then,
life was reborn. However, everything followed the same fate. We end up at the
time around when Emporio met Jolyne in her “old life”. While some things have
changed, to me it seems to me that Pucci failed. As shown at the very end, the
‘future’ Jolyne has the trademark Joestar birthmark.

The only thing I still don’t get is why Emporio was unaffected by Pucci’s
stand. Either that or I forgot and I’m too lazy to reread.


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