

Other than FSN Archer, is there any revealed Counter-Guardian other than him?


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How many Counter-Guardian does Alaya have?


According to the [Wiki Category "Counter Guardians" on the Type-Moon
Wikia](http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Counter_Guardians) there is 4
that are named but there can be more, as [Krazer
mentions](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/47215/how-many-counter-
guardian-does-alaya-have/50107#comment63317_47217) that 7 have appeared to
retrain Primate Murder in certain Timelines but we do not know the names of
these ones. 2 however were created parody/side works so they might not
actually be proper Counter Guardians that Alaya can deploy

Anyway, the 4 Counter Guardians we know the names of are:

  * [EMIYA (Emiya Shirou)](http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Archer_\(Fate/stay_night\)): we know this one being **Archer** from _Fate/Stay Night_. a future version of Emiya Shirou

  * [EMIYA (Emiya Kiritsugu)](http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Assassin_\(Fate/Grand_Order_-_EMIYA\)): This one if from _Fate/Grand Order_ as an **Assassin** Servant who is Kiritsugu, Shirou's adoptive father

> Assassin's True Name is EMIYA, Kiritsugu Emiya. An assassin who was
> incarnated as an agent of the Counter Force. Originally, he was not a Heroic
> Spirit. Although he was an individual who murdered many people as an
> assassin, his existence has not been engraved in the Throne of Heroes. One
> of the “imitation Heroic Spirits” also referred to as Counter Guardians, and
> someone who would have never existed in the proper human history. Yet, this
> "if that might have been" possibility exists now only due to the threat that
> attempts to destroy human history itself from its very foundation... in the
> Grand Order case alone. His soul was called out from the circle of
> deterrence in response to this threat.

  * [Okita Souji](http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Devil_Saber): commonly know as **Devil Saber** who first appeared in the parody manga [Koha-Ace](http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Koha-Ace). Devil Saber is isn't the same as [Sakura Saber](http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Sakura_Saber) and is sorta like an Alter but not [listed as one](http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Servant#Alter). 

> Devil Saber is a Counter Guardian formed through Sakura Saber's spiritual
> foundation taking in a Holy Grail filled with Seven Servants. Essentially an
> Okita Alter, her ascension grants her support from the Counter Force.

  * [TOHSAKA](http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/TOHSAKA): first appearing as a **Master** (and not a Servant) in [_Capsule Servant_](http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Capsule_Servant) which was a side game that was released with the PS Vita version of _Fate/Hollow Ataraxia_. as you can tell by the name she is Tohsaka Rin who became a Counter Guardian in a world where Shirou didn't

> TOHSAKA is a "miraculous" Heroic Spirit born in a world line in which Shirou
> Emiya did not become the Heroic Spirit EMIYA.
>
> Because of her severe debt, she made a contract with the World to become a
> Heroic Spirit. Having decided that there were too many Grail Wars occurring
> across the different dimensions, and because she was a relatively new Heroic
> Spirit, the World tasked TOHSAKA with destroying the various Holy Grails,
> reducing her debt slightly for each one eliminated.

However because of the nature of _Koha-Ace_ being self aware and the parody
nature of _Capsule Servant_ (ie. how [The World is
shown](https://i.stack.imgur.com/yGFH5.jpg) to be [like Seele from _Neon
Genesis Evangelion_](https://i.stack.imgur.com/V5KL7.jpg)) one could debate
whether Alaya can actually deploy either one


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Who knows. Counter Guardians are created when 'heroes' of the skill and power
required to become a Heroic Spirit fail to attain the fame required to
properly ascend to the Throne, and instead make a contract with Alaya in
exchange for a 'miracle'.

By definition, then, a CG is 'someone we've never heard of' -- so who knows?
Probably, just by statistics, there's more of them than there are Heroic
Spirits - so hundreds, thousands, probably even more.

Talk about the Unknown Soldiers...


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