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Since the release of Dragon Ball Super, it is confirmed by Akira Toriyama and
Toei that Dragon Ball GT is non-canon anymore. But I was wondering if there
was still some elements of GT that have maybe been kept by the author and
which would still be considered canon in the actual Dragon Ball Super
manga/anime, and notably the Super Saiyan 4 transformation achieved by Son
Goku and Vegeta.

I do know that the events that led to those transformations are not present in
the real series timeline, and so that they would not be able to transform in
SSJ4 right now. But did Akira Toriyama **confirmed** the fact of totally
ruling out this transformation?


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Is the Super Saiyan 4 transformation from Dragon Ball GT confirmed non-canon?


He didn't confirm it, but he didn't create the design either. It was created
by a guy named Nakatsuru. Up to today, in Dragon Ball, canon is considered
what is based on Akira Toriyama's original ideas. The 80's and 90's movies
weren't canon because Akira Toriyama wasn't involved in them. The 80's manga
was canon because it was drawn by him. The fillers in the 90's series weren't
canon because they weren't based on Akira Toriyama's ideas. So yes, you can
say it isn't canon, that doesn't necessarily mean it is completely ruled out,
though most likely it is. The final kamehameha was an idea from the video
games which wasn't canon, yet it still appeared later in the Dragon Ball super
series.


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