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I was wondering how was Gohan so much **stronger as a normal Saiyan than Goku
was as SS3** when he fought Buu. Is there not like a power level to reach the
next SSJ form?

![enter image description here](https://i.stack.imgur.com/pPO9S.jpg)

Power level example:

  * **10,000 to reach SS1**
  * **100,000 to reach SS2**
  * etc.

Why couldn't Gohan reach SS3 already? Or he could fight as SS2 at least?

_Maybe I have to rewrite my question again:_

If you read the list below,

  * SS1 is always at about 25,000,000

  * SS2 is always at about 49,000,000

**If Gohan with the Mystic Sword is as strong as Goku was as SS3, there
wouldn't be any difference in their strength when he would transform into
SS3?**


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Saiyan Power Levels?


[Saiyan Power Levels](http://www.danjco.com/power.htm) \- check this link out.

It states the power level every character have during a specific battle.

**Majin Buu Saga**

> Fat Buu: 45,000,000  
>  Majin Buu: 80,000,000  
>  Good Buu: 55,000,000  
>  Bad Buu: 65,000,000  
>  Super Buu: 70,000,000  
>  Ultimate Buu: 50,000,000  
>  Majin Gotenks Buu: 90,000,000  
>  Majin Vegito Buu: 100,000,000  
>  Goku: 5,000,000  
>  Goku (Super Saiyan): 27,000,000  
>  Goku (Super Saiyan 2): 49,500,000  
>  Goku (Super Saiyan 3): 79,999,999  
>  Goku (Genki-dama): 100,000,000  
>  Piccolo: 26,000,000  
>  Gohan: 3,000,000  
>  Gohan (Super Saiyan): 25,000,000  
>  Gohan (with the Z sword): 53,000,000  
>  Goten: 1,500,000  
>  Goten (Super Saiyan): 10,000,000  
>  Trunks: 1,500,000  
>  Trunks (Super Saiyan): 10,000,000  
>  Gotenks: 3,000,000  
>  Gotenks (Super Saiyan): 20,000,000  
>  Gotenks (Super saiyan 3): 75,000,000  
>  Vegeta: 5,000,000  
>  Vegeta (Super Saiyan): 26,500,000  
>  Vegeta (Super Saiyan 2): 49,000,000  
>  Vegito: 10,000,000  
>  Vegito (Super Saiyan): 53,000,000  
>  Vegito (Super Saiyan 2): 99,500,000


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> The first Super Saiyan transformation occurs when a Saiyan who has reached a
> very high level of power loses himself in a fit of rage.[22] However, the
> transformation must be triggered in response to a great need, an example
> being in Goku's case to defeat Frieza. While physical change is not too
> drastic apart from a slight increase in muscle mass,[23][24] the power
> output increase is colossal; the form is said to multiply the Saiyan's power
> by 50x times its normal amount[22] (in the Dragon Ball Z: The Anime
> Adventure Game, the multiplier for the form is 2.5x the user's normal amount
> of power). When Goku utilises the Super Saiyan form against General Rilldo
> in Dragon Ball GT, Rilldo states that Goku's power has increased a
> hundredfold.

Source: <http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Saiyan>


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I think i found a possible answer:

I found this in the [DB Wiki ](http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Gohan).

> As Goku, Supreme Kai, and Kibito observe what is happening down on Earth,
> Gohan grows increasingly impatient as Old Kai reads and laughs at comics
> instead of unlocking his power. Gohan soon loses his patience and angrily
> powers up, displaying an amazing power that illuminates the Supreme Kai
> planet. However, amazed at realizing that some of his power really was
> unlocked, Gohan apologizes to Old Kai, and resumes the ritual. **After some
> time, the ritual is finally completed and Gohan is told to power up like he
> does for the Super Saiyan transformation; however, when he does, his
> appearance does not change, but his power and strength gain an awesome
> increase.** Gohan says goodbye to Supreme Kai, Old Kai, and his father Goku
> and is transported back to Earth by Kibito. Before Kibito transports back to
> the Supreme Kai planet, Gohan asks for the clothes reminiscent of his
> father's, to which Kibito happily complies. Kibito wishes Gohan good luck
> and transports back to the Supreme Kai planet. With his power finally
> released and the fate of the world now in his hands, Gohan flies off to
> confront the new Majin Buu: Super Buu.

_So it seems when Gohan get "Mystic Gohan", even though he increased his Power
his appearance didn't change. So he coulnd't transform in any other Saiyan
form than the normal form, but still getting stronger._


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As we saw more recently in Dragon Ball Super, Gohan in mystic form isnt the
same as Gohan in base form. Once he got rusty, to reach mystic form he had to
power up to super saiyan and super saiyan 2 first, to finally reach the mystic
form transformation, which looks very similar to base form with the sole
difference that he has a bang and more spiky hair.

[Gohan turns mystic again - Dragon Ball
Super](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4MGSd7-46E)


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