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In the beginning of Mayoi Jiangshi, we meet Ougi when she talks to Araragi in
[the traffic light conversation](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhEAMI4igZM)
(i.e. "Did you know that there is a time when all lights at an intersection
are red?"). I didn't really think much of the fact that it was this random
girl talking to him, thinking it was a friend from school.

Once I saw Ougi in the other ones in 2nd season / tsuki, I realized that that
was also Ougi. Now that Owari is out, we see where he first meets Ougi.
Because of that, I thought that this part of Owari was at the very beginning
of 2nd season.

However, [this
site](http://bakemonogatari.wikia.com/wiki/Monogatari_Series_Timeline) puts it
_after_ Mayoi Jiangshi. How is this possible?


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How does Araragi know Ougi in Mayoi Jiangshi?


We learn in the first episode of _Mayoi Jiangshi_ that Araragi time-travels
the night of the end of summer break, which is August 20th.

However, in Ougi's conversation with Araragi at the beginning, both are
wearing school uniforms and clearly are at school. So the conversation cannot
have taken place right before the events of _Mayoi Jiangshi_ , since the
"present-day" events of the arc take place during the summer holidays.

Moreover, after the conversation, Araragi says in his narration:

> In the end, Ougi just wanted to teach me some trivia that all intersections
> have a three-second period where all lights are red [. . .] And I'm reminded
> of that trivia alongside memories of Mayoi Hachikuji. I'm reminded of those
> words along with a lost young girl. Every traffic light in the way was red.
> And in the instance she crossed on green, she was run over.
>
> I recall it with the memories of that girl who died over 10 years ago. That
> summer's epic adventure. Along with that story that started as a petty
> concept but in the end grew into a giant tale that almost engulfed
> everything that was real.

(Paragraph breaks are mine.) This is before a break in the story and the
subsequent introduction of the events of August 20th.

Here, Araragi cannot only be recalling the story of Hachikuji's death; he must
also be recalling his time-travel adventure in this narration of his thoughts.
(The appearance of a number of frames associated with events late into _Mayoi
Jiangshi_ in this section provides additional support for this.)

The conversation must then take place at some unspecified point _after_ the
events of _Mayoi Jiangshi_. Thus, there is no inconsistency with Kanbaru's
introduction of Ougi to Araragi "on a certain day at the end of October" in
_Owarimonogatari_.


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