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Unlike the games in [Liar Game](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liar_Game), the
rules of a Danganronpa game (at least from what I've seen in s1 of the anime)
are sometimes made up or stated midway, which for me kind of sucks but is
tolerable so long as the rules are consistent.

In Liar Game, afaik, the dealers always account for all possible situations
and state consequences of the situations outright especially when there are
changes. For example, in games involving voting, the dealers state what
happens in the event of a draw, even if it later doesn't occur or even factor
into some calculations made by the characters. In one voting game, a draw was
not possible because of an odd number of players (well, actually, assuming
everyone votes). Later, the number of players became even, so the dealer of
the game immediately stated what would happen in the event of a drawn vote.

Going back to Danganronpa, iirc, what happens is: After 3 students discover a
corpse, there's an announcement that there will be a classroom trial called.

  1. What if there is no corpse to be found, like the body was burned (alive or dead, preferably dead of course)?

  2. What if student A is murdered, and the corpse is hidden for a long period? Can the game continue with an unannounced or unresolved murder?

PS I'm done with s1 of the anime. Go ahead and spoil other media. But please
use spoiler tags for others.


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In Danganronpa, how can a classroom trial be called if there is no corpse?


As of this moment, in both Danganronpa games and the anime adaptation of the
first game, in the case the body is hidden or disposed in a way it is
impossible for three witnesses to find it...

> There are no rules about how such thing would be dealt with. No such
> scenario happens, and no person seems to ever plan to go to such lenghts and
> question Monokuma about the rules for such situations, leaving us only with
> speculation on how this specifc situation would be dealt with.


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  1. So long as the evidence of someone being dead occurred, it is going to hold a classroom trial. It will merely be impossible to investigate the body itself. Take the Chapter Five death in Trigger Happy Havoc: Miss Victim had half her body burnt to a crisp, and she, as a victim, was unidentifiable. I’d spoil the other games, where a similar thing to what you describe happens, but... it’s not included in any of the animated features.

  2. Once a body is discovered, that is when the class trial will be held. If the culprit can hide the body well enough, they can very well “get away with murder.” and graduate. At least, that is my theory.


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If there is no corpse then there can be no class trial. If it takes a long
time for the body to be discovered then the class trial will take place
whenever the body is discovered, the game will have continued as normal until
that point. The rules of the death game clearly outline the trigger condition
for a class trial, Rule #9 (D2:GD) and Rule #11 (DV3:KH) "The Body Discovery
Announcement will play as soon as three or more people discover a body for the
first time" (This was not written in the rules in D1:THH but it was in effect
regardless. Byakuya informs Makoto he missed it while passed out in Ch 1 and
then it plays normally thereafter which is relevant in Ch 3). The body
discovery announcement serves as the prelude to the investigation which leads
into the class trial, it cannot be skipped.

This seems to conflict with a different rule in the rulebook Rule #7 (D1),
Rule #5 (D2) and Rule #2 (DV3) phrased as "Once a murder takes place, a class
trial will begin shortly thereafter. Participation is mandatory for all
surviving students" in D1 and D2 but "Once a murder takes place, all surviving
students must participate in a class trial" in DV3. The first phrasing implies
that an investigation will trigger soon after the murder no matter what but
this isn't even true within D1 (expanded upon below) and the DV3 phrasing
better communicates the core of this rule, that being all surviving students
must attend the class trial **or else** (although the consequences of missing
the class trial are never explained).

The proof that there is no class trial without a body discovery announcement
is integral to the plot of D1 _**spoilers for Trigger Happy Havoc**_ :

> In Ch 5 the body discovery announcement plays for the half blown up body of
> Mukuro Ikusaba, The Ultimate Soldier and "yet unseen" 16th student in the
> killing game. One would initially assume she had died just prior to the
> announcement but in actuality she was the first student killed. Mukuro was
> in cahoots with and posing as Junko Enoshima in the prologue but the actual
> Junko had decided rather than their agreed upon stunt of having a bunch of
> harpoon guns barely miss her to scare the students into fearing Monokuma to
> kill her for real before lowering her still breathing body into the floor
> where she died and was put into cold storage until Ch 5. A class trial was
> not held for Mukuro as this happened (presumably because the rule pertains
> to corpses and Mukuro hadn't died by the time she disappeared from view). It
> was only held in Ch 5 when her body was discovered. This says a few things,
> class trials do not need to follow the order of the murders (contradicting
> the rule saying a trial shortly follows a murder) but they do need to follow
> the order the bodies are discovered. A class trial is not held until the
> body is discovered which implies if a body is never found, no class trial is
> ever held. This makes sense in the framework the killing game, the only way
> to graduate is to kill another student, let the trial happen and not be
> voted guilty. Never having the body found is counterproductive. We also know
> from the alternate ending of Ch 5 that if nobody is murdered the remaining
> students never graduate and remain trapped in the school forever.

An additional note pertaining to what it means for a "body" to be discovered.

> A half blown up body counts (D1 Ch 5)

> A skeleton picked clean by piranhas counts (DV3 Ch 2)

> Even a blood stain and sleeve sticking out from a hydraulic press counts
> (DV3 Ch 5).

This suggests that "evidence of a body" counts as a "body" for the purposes of
the body discovery announcement. Whether this applies to a body thrown in an
incinerator or a volcano is unclear, but again, a murder without any trace of
a body is counterproductive to winning the game, if the body cannot trigger
the body discovery announcement then the class trial needed to win will never
happen.


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