

We know that using Kaio-ken damages your body as you are forcing it to go
beyond its limits. But is it also increasing your potential for the higher
power? I mean as the body is facing the forced power up it will try to improve
and endure that power the next time, right? I guess it works kinda like muscle
training, the more you push your muscles the more they develop.

So can't Goku stay in the Kaio-ken mode for an extended period of time (while
not fighting) to increase his capacities and go beyond Kaio-ken X20?


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Is Kaio-ken increasing Goku's potential?


There is no mention of such thing in the series but it makes sense. What it is
mentioned in the series it is, saiyans get stronger with every fight they have
(zenkai boost), they get stronger when they are about to die and they recover
(zenkai boost) , Piccolo also mentions he can't keep the pace of training of
saiyans (and this is later re-affirmed when Goku, Gohan, Trunks and Vegeta and
Piccolo go to the time chamber and all the saiyans become stronger than
Piccolo who was superior to them after fusing with Kami) . So everytime
saiyans push or hurt their bodies they become stronger, much stronger than
other races after training. So if kaioken takes Goku's body to its limit he
should get stronger after recovering it.


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Kaioken is not a state or transformation. It is a special technique which
multiplies Goku's power. Assuming Kaioken doesn't have a limit and you could
reach a multiplier beyond 20, Goku doesn't necessarily need to keep utilizing
the same to get used to the state. This is because Goku has to train his body
to be able to adapt to the physical strain imposed by Kaioken. This requires
excellent Ki control which is why Goku was able to stack it on top of SSJB and
we never see him stacking it on top of SSJ2 or SSJ3 when he fought Beerus or
Back in the Buu Saga against Kid Buu.

Also, it's been stated by Whis to Vegeta that God level training involves
excellent Ki control and not just putting your body through a lot of physical
strain. Also, Kaioken acts as a multiplier to Goku's current level of power
and not his Base form unlike his other transformations. So in other words, if
someone were to train and achieve a stronger transformation which is a higher
multiplier, having a higher multiplier of kaioken wouldn't make a difference.

Suppose there existed a transformation which was a lot superior to SSJB(Not
gonna use UI here), which is a significantly higher power multiplier than
SSJB, then even 30 times SSJB, will not be able to stand up against that
power.

The best way to illustrate the same would be with an example. Let us assume
Goku has a power level of 2 and let there exist one transformation which is a
100 times multiplier and another transformation which is a 200 times
multiplier. If Goku utilises the first transformation and is capable of using
Kaioken * 3/ his power would be : 2*100 * 3=600. Incase of the second
transformation, let's say he can only use Kaioken * 20, but his power would be
: 2*200*20=800. (Please note these are not actual power levels and it's only
an example to prove the same)


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Agree. It's a mult, not a transformation. However, it could have higher
adverse affects when used on higher current powers. This is because a mult, is
basically changing, what I see as, the per-second power output (i.e. power
level). No matter what sort of power level Goku achieves, he has a limit on
how much he can temporarily force that power output to be multiples of itself.
That is his limit as a human/saiyan. This is different from "power" growth via
strain and training.

While he can train his use of power. He cannot easily train personal self-
damage due to over-exertion. However, notice that he has increased Kaioken
from Kaioken (a simple 50% increase) to Kaioken x 20. This means it's possible
but probably a horrible use of time, energy, effort.


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