

Something I noticed while watching a number of English dubs is that characters
talk... the best way I can describe it is as a dialect. The scripts and voice
acting are done by native (mostly American?) English speakers, but use odd
vocabulary and turns of phrase that sound like part of its own dialect. It is
difficult to describe, since it sounds nothing like any real English dialect I
am familiar with.

For example, the English dub of _Devilman_ on Netflix uses the word "human"
(and at one point "mortal") instead of "person" or "man" in English sentences
where those would be expected instead. The phrase "go to hell, you mortals!"
comes across as distinctly stilted and unnatural to my ear (as a native
General American English speaker).

Is this an actual phenomenon or am I imagining it? If it is real, why does it
exist?


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Why do English dubs have a unique dialect?


Adapting the Japanese script of a show for an English dub goes through a few
different steps and throughout these steps there is plenty of opportunity for
the original script to be altered/adapted/interpreted in a way that results in
the dub to be noticeably different from the original, but can also still be
far away from ordinary english.

First the script is translated. In language, there are many cases where there
is no direct translation or where a word can be interpreted in multiple
different ways which could lead to a case like in your question. Also, there
are many cultural words and references where even after translation, most
english speaking viewers would simply not get it which is why it is necessary
to have the translations adapted and re-scripted.

In adaption and re-scripting, writers attempt to make the translation flow
naturally when spoken in english while keeping in mind the voice actors and
the time it takes them to say it and the time allowed for said lines in the
animation itself and also ensuring to mention all the essential plot points.
This process allows for plenty of artistic interpretation and I think that is
really the answer to your question. This dialect you notice is just how the
writers adapted the translated script... an unnatural dialect could be due to
artistic choice, an attempt to convey something that doesn't really exist in
english or it may even just be bad writing. I would say however, that more
often than not the unique dialect you notice is not so much unique, as it is
Japanese idioms being kept in the english dub. Some examples are "obento",
"shiritori" and adding suffixes like "-chan' which to someone unfamiliar to
Japanese things, may seem at first like an odd or unique dialect.

For your specific example I would say it was an artistic choice, but I would
also say it is not unnatural, and it even fits well with the theme of the
show. The word **mortal** may not be very common in your everyday conversation
but it **is** very common in dramatic dialogue about gods, angels, demons and
the battle between good and evil. There are ample famous books, movies,
quotes, poems where humans are called mortals and the setting of those books
and movies will usually be similar to that of Devilman. _( **Edit:** If this
was not the case, and from your comment it seems as though it isn't, then it
would be because of one of the above mentioned reasons. Possibly just bad
writing?)_


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if you watch modern movies like the lord of the rings series, they also use
odd dialect. it adds ambiance to the film and id say modern dubs are going for
the ambiance angle on venues that occur in a different time or story universe.

the settings for most anime are not current day normal earth therefore the
language helps create that feel. think of something like the lord of the rings
series, they do not speak normal english because it would ruin the story.

you have to note that anime went through developmental phases and the reasons
for odd dubs through those periods seems to have changed.

something from the sixties like astro boy or even the early eighties like
techno police has a very stilted english dub and as it appears to have been
translated by non native english speakers then read by voice actors
(reference?), the translation appears to use phrase-book snippets from sources
that were thirty or forty years out of date when the translations were made.
On the other hand some american cartoons such as minute mouse and courageous
kat also use the same odd phrases and stilted delivery. whether it was for
effect or to mimic the up and coming japanese animations i do not know. of
relevance is the fact that several japanese films from the sixties and
seventies also used the same odd idioms and stilted delivery on their english
dubs. some of the martial arts related ones come to mind and have become cult
films due to the justaposition with the delivery not matching the action and
the almost irresistible urge to repeat the line out loud for comedic effect.

it was a successful formula for that time period and success doesnt always
know why it does what it does, it only knows it has to.

these dubs are clearly odd because of how they were translated and i believe
the stilted delivery was intentional to match the level of realism in the
animation or create interest. later anime with smoother animation used more
natural deliveries although as pointed out, the dialect is not colloquial and
that is for effect.

i am familiar with these phrase books. on trips to asia or hosting visitors
ive commented on the odd phrases the locals used trying to speak english and
in several cases they produced the phrase books and showed me how it was
"correct" even though they did not know it was hilariously outdated.

modern english dubs can be at least as good if not an improvement on the
original japanese. i cite FLCL as a prime example. over the top voice acting
full of expression and the use of current day phrases. in the case of FLCL the
odd dialect has been replaced with odd intonations and japanese idioms which
have no direct translation are replaced with english idioms that convey
similar levels of emotion. the goal is still achieved: the story is told with
feeling and set and setting are clearly other-world.

note that an anime set in the 'real' world such as 'the graveyard of the
fireflies' has a smooth dub with normal dialect. no need to provide the
setting of an otherworld venue.

on a side note regarding liberties taken with dubs, sailor moon was the first
major work that i know of where the practice of trying to follow the japanese
script exactly with a dub became less important than trying to tell a coherent
story. in the case of sailor moon, the story presented to the american
audience is much different than the one told in the japanese language release.
the japanese language release detailed her attempts to find a boy and had
significant sexual overtones. her magic girl quests were almost a nuisance
hindering her from completing her dating task.

such an emphasis on dating and sexuality for a young teen was deemed
inappropriate for the christian-conservative north american audience and the
script was amazingly re-written telling an almost entirely different story
while using almost all the original video. thats more than just an odd dialect
to create ambiance, its an entirely different script.

id love to see interviews regarding this with some of the voice actors and
directors from the sixties and seventies while they are still around. if
anyone knows of any, please post some links!

c dos. cd dos run. run dos run! (sorry i migrated here from the computer side
of stackexchange)


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