

Hit is a powerful opponent for Goku because he can use time skip and
manipulate time and space.  
Could this be said for Jiren, or is he simply an overpowered character?  
I'm **NOT** comparing the two, I'm simply providing an example.


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Does Jiren simply use brute force?


Jiren is just overpowered that's all. But Goku (or even Vegeta) with ultra
instinct can maybe win against him somehow... Its hard to believe that this
beast can be beaten but yes... it is possible.


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Let me make something clear, Hit isn't a character strong for his power(If
compared to the power of these high tiers and godly tier characters). What
makes him strong are his dangerous assassin techniques which allow him to
manipulate time and space

  * Even during the first fight between Goku and Hit during the Universe 6 vs Universe 7 arc, we need to realize that both of Goku's very powerful attacks didn't actually touch Hit. Hit's timeskip allowed him to dodge both the attacks which is why he managed to survive.
  * Even during the rematch between Goku and Hit, we see Goku capable of tanking multiple blows from Hit and even surviving a shot which almost killed him. However, one powerful Kamehameha in his improvised SSJB form, was capable of taking out Hit (a double K.O), during the match. 
  * Even during the match between Hit and Dyspo, we see Dyspo's punches actually hurting hit a lot at the start. We see Goku on the other hand taking 2 back to back punches from Dyspo like it was nothing. 

  

If I were to distinguish the current strongest characters(mortals), I'd put
them on the God Tier and the High Tier Scale :

# God Tier

  1. Jiren: He is the strongest mortal in the anime at the moment and his power is said to rival that of a Hakaishin. He obviously possesses a lot of techniques and experience like Goku but ultimately, what makes him unbelievable strong is just his brute strength and power. We do know that technique can sometimes counter power. (We see hit being able to do this with goku), However, Jiren's power rivals that of Beerus (at 100%). So his power is off the scale and even Hit's best technique wasn't sufficient enough to subdue him. 
  2. UI Goku: This transformation is Goku utilising a skill which the Gods strive to master. At the same time, it certainly does act as a power multiplier which makes him very strong and he's definitely not in his base form or his attacks wouldn't even touch Kefla or Jiren. One's he manages to attack perfectly in this state, and match Jiren's power, it would bring him closer to the power of the gods

# High Tier

  1. Goku SSJB + Kaioken*20
  2. Kefla SSJ2 
  3. Toppo
  4. Vegeta SSJB = Golden Freiza
  5. Hit

In terms of power, Hit is a lot weaker than the rest of the high tier
characters. He is certainly very powerful, but even a mid tier character like
17, gohan or dyspo (Fighting at full power) might be able to give Hit some
trouble if they manage to counter his special abilities which they very likely
wouldn't be able to because of Hit's superior experience and complex level of
skill. Also, you need to realize that Goku wouldn't struggle with Hit's time
skip anymore in his UI state. Unlike Goku who needed some time to adjust to
time skip, Jiren was able to completely dodge all of Hits attacks and even
counter most of the time initially simply because of his amazing reaction
time. The UI transformation makes Goku's reaction time perfect, so
technically, Goku would be able to dodge hit's time skip and overpower him.


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**Overpowered** is the correct description for Jiren. So far what was shown
was pure raw power from Jiren. We weren't introduced to any special ability
yet (in the anime, I don't know how it is in the manga).

It was rumored that a mortal was living in an universe with power that exceeds
the god of destruction. I don't know the exact episode but Whis and Beerus
were talking about it when Jiren showed his raw power for the first time.

If Jiren has any special/unique abilities it will still have to be presented.
Which will make him significantly stronger or weaker if an ability might be
the reason for his insane raw power.

Just the way saiyans and different species are able to power up through
different forms Jiren might be possessing a similar treat.

Based on what we have been shown yet Jiren is simple overpowered. The punch of
his fist alone causes enough force to destroy surrounding areas. None of the
other characters in the tournament so far are able to have a similar force in
their base form.


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**Jiren is not overpowered.**

_tl;dr More Power (KI) ≠ Stronger Fighter_

* * *

The point of the character is to illustrate the difference of strength between
powerful mortals, gods of destruction, angels and others we probably haven't
seen yet. _Jiren could be at a level between god of destruction and angel_.
The fact that he seems overpowered means we still have a long way to go until
Goku reaches a level where he is considered the strongest.

In _DBZ_ and even _GT_ , Goku seems to be near to the level of all of his
opponents before finally surpassing them. _Super_ is taking a different
approach. Goku and the others are struggling to even perceive the strength of
their opponents. Other techniques and skills throw a monkey wrench in the idea
of "more power = stronger fighter". Time skip, ultra instinct, and the energy
of destruction are all examples of technique trumping raw power.

The new anime is changing power scaling and what it means to be a powerful
fighter. _DBZ_ and _GT_ relied on transformations to show a character was at a
higher level. _Super_ , like the original _Dragon Ball_ , is pivoting to
strategy and use of different techniques to show a fighter's skills are
advancing.


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