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Be aware that this question contain spoilers from episode 127, 128 and 130.

So in episode 127 it was shown that 17 self sacrificed in order to save Goku
and Vegeta. This resulted in referee saying that they could **assume** that he
self destructed which resulted in Jiren getting no penalty. Is this correctly
translated from japanese? Hence meaning that the referee indicates that 17
wasn't officially eliminated. In the godpad he was also never removed by the
Zenos.

In episode 128 when Vegeta dropped out we were only shown a part of the
godpad, the top row. 17 is on the bottom row, meaning there is no official
status about it yet.

In episode 130 he makes a return. Were the previous episodes made like that in
japanese as well (text wise) in order to indicate that 17 is still in the
tournament? Or was he officially eliminated making his current status exactly
what?

I find this extremely confusing as in the past there had been some translation
errors meaning that a sentence can hold a different meaning from the original
intended one. As far as I can tell he was never officially removed, meaning
referee and Zenos were aware of this and didn't remove him. Or are they
surprised and were they perhaps unaware, meaning that there was an error of
judgement on their side?


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No. 17 official status


Firstly, The Omni Kings marking off fighters on the Godpad is only a formality
and doesn't really have to do with a fighter being completely eliminated. The
reason I make this argument is because of **Episode 110**. After the _Spirit
Bomb_ clash between _Goku and Jiren_ , Goku was presumed to be dead and there
was a scene where the Omni Kings were right about to push the button, the
world of void began to shake because of Goku. If Goku was a few seconds late,
the Omni Kings would've pushed the button and would have to redo the same if
Goku hadn't actually died because it was an **error on their parts and not the
contestant's part.**  
  
We also know by this that a contestant doesn't necessarily have to _only be
knocked out to get eliminated._ If he or she is either disqualified for
violating a rule or dies or is in any position where the fighter cannot
continue to fight in the tournament of power, the fighter is considered to be
eliminated.  
  
So to answer your main question. **Yes! Android 17 was presumed to be dead
just like Goku was which as a result, meant elimination.**

As for the other questions, The Omni Kings and even The Grand Priest were
under the impression that **Android 17** did die during the self-destruction.
We know this based on what he said right after, where Jiren wasn't going to be
disqualified because Android 17 chose to kill himself. Even in Episode 110,
the Grand Priest **initially assumed that Goku died after the Spirit Bomb
Struggle** as he clearly stated that Jiren wouldn't be disqualified as **Goku
died as a result of his own attack**. With regard to them not showing the
official elimination of Android 17(ie Marking him out on the God Pad), is
something only the staff and writers would know. Perhaps there **wasn't
sufficient time** in the episode to include this bit of animation or maybe
because Android 17's **death was confirmed by multiple characters** (Based on
Goku's, Vegeta's, Universe 7 fighters, Jiren's, Grand Priest's etc comments)
and there wasn't really a reason to indicate the same or perhaps they left
this out **because of what which happens in episode 130.**  
  
Based on my Initial Argument, I personally believe it honestly d wouldn't make
a difference if they were to have marked Android 17 out. It would've just been
considered an error in judgment which they would have redone. It would only
matter if pressing the button on the Godpad causes the character to get erased
or creates some form of restriction that prevents them from fighting in the
tournament of power. As of now, it is solely there for the entertainment
purposes and as a list for the Omni Kings to keep track of the fighters
remaining.


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