

I understand that one of them is actually the other. At first we are led to
believe that Vincent is Ergo. But toward the end of the series, we discover
something but I am not sure what it means: Ergo created Vincent to run away
from himself. Also, in the beginning, when Vincent turns into Ergo, he loses
control and doesn't remember any of it. Later on he starts to control Ergo,
but at the same time he can talk with him.

So, basically, I don't understand which 'came first': Is Vincent Law Ergo
Proxy? Or is it the other way around? Or are they actually two different
'selves' that 'reside in the same body'?


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What is the relation between Ergo Proxy and Vincent Law?


According to wikipedia under [Other Characters -
Proxies](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ergo_Proxy_characters#Proxies):

> Ergo Proxy is a "clone" of Proxy One, Romdo's creator and guardian, who was
> created to help bring about the destruction of the human race because of
> Proxy One's anger at humanity's treatment of and plans for the Proxies,
> specifically Monad Proxy. Ergo Proxy often wears a white mask with elements
> of both The Phantom of the Opera and a harlequin jester to differentiate
> from Proxy One. Vincent initially has no control over his transformations,
> changing into Ergo Proxy whenever another Proxy reveals itself, but is
> implied to be in control of his abilities by the end of the series.

Regarding Proxy One:

> The main antagonist of the series, he is Ergo Proxy's original and true
> self, and calls Vincent his shadow. He was first alluded to in episode 15
> and is the one behind the events of the entire series, having created
> Vincent and then sent him back to Romdo from Mosk to start his revenge plan.
> Near the end of the series, Proxy One is revealed to be the one who fired
> the thermonuclear missile Rapture, destroyed Amnesia to hide Vincent's
> memories, and killed Donov Mayer.

To summarize, Vincent Law transforms into Ergo Proxy. Ergo Proxy is the proxy
form of Vincent Law. He appoints Romdeau, his domed city, with a human regent
and then gives himself amnesia, leaving himself in his human form (as
Vincent). Ergo Proxy comes first, though he is a clone of Proxy One.


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From what I understand, Proxy 1 and Ergo Proxy are two separate entities. A
miss conception, thanks to the English translation, is proxy 1 created
Romdeau; this is not the case as Romdeau is described a flawed Dome in the
same way as its creator, Ergo Proxy, is a clone on Proxy 1 and hence a flawed
proxy (also shown by the fact he can survive UV rays).

This is further backed up by the relationship between Ergo and Monad. Monad we
are told loved Ergo proxy due to their opposing natures of life and death,
thus she comes to Vincent AKA Ergos aid at the end of the series rather than
to help forefill Proxy 1's ambitions for Ergo to destroy humanities chance for
a future on earth.

Vincent is therefore the human name of the being Ergo proxy while he has
amnesia due to the removal of his own memories to prevent him from becoming
the literal grim reaper on earth. Ergo Proxy was created a long time prior to
the series by Proxy 1 as a means of revenge on humanity.

Of coarse I could be completely wrong but it doesn't really matter as the main
focus of the anime isn't the plot but the moral and theological questions
which arise from the setting and premise of the series. In short its a
fantastic anime whether the ending is ambiguous or not :)


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Vincent Law is Ergo Proxy, who is Proxy 1. Proxy one divided himself into two.
That which is divided must become one. So Proxy 1 splits into 2, and one half
leaves the dome, the other half remains. The half that leaves gets rid of
their memory... who are they now? They are no longer the true Proxy Project
creation. They are now gaining self-awareness and forging a new identity.

It is perhaps because they rejected their imperfect origin that they decided
to dump their memory, and become Vincent Law. Victory over Law. He has claimed
victory over the rules. He is no longer just a proxy. The amnesia effect
allows us to follow him on his journey against the strongest enemy he'll ever
face... himself. A journey we all must take if we strike out against what we
were planned to be and instead seek out our own destiny.

So Proxy 1 is Ergo Proxy... He is both one and the same, and he must embrace
every aspect of himself if he is to truly choose his own future. It's not an
easy thing to do, but he has Re-l, or reality. He also has pino, and "in vino,
veritas", or "in wine there is truth".

So moving forward with reality and truth, the lab project known as Proxy One
will eventually embrace that he is Ergo Proxy, and yet overcome his origins
and finally reach happiness by redefining himself as Vincent Law, victorious
over the laws his very cells were programmed to follow. He felt the pulse of
the awakening, and instead of dying, he awoke. He is the agent of death... or
was... not anymore... He is Vincent Law, and Vince is in full control as he
sails off with truth and reality, and a new autorave who perhaps represents
the discipline he has finally achieved.


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