

In the games there was special Technical Machines (TM's) which taught movies
that were key to progressing in the game like Strength, Sly, Surf, Cut. these
were called Hidden Machines (HM's) and the moves they taught could not be
forgotten unless the player went to a Move Forgetter.

Now i recall early in the anime and Manga when Ash met with a kid who had an
Eevee and was being forced to choose what kind of Stone to use by his 2 older
brothers who each had a Joltion, Falrion and Vaporion they used a TM to teach
Eevee a new move which allowed the kid to win his battle to show how strong
his Eevee could be without evolving.

However i don't recall HM's being shown in the anime and i didn't read much of
the manga (only the one volume i saw in the mobile library like 18 years ago,
i think). i am wondering if HM's do make an appearance in anything outside the
Video Games and also if how they function has been reworked for the different
media (as we don't see in the anime Ash pressing a B button to stop Pikachu
from evolving or trying to weigh up with of it's 4 movies Ash should overwrite
for a new movie like Volt Tackle)


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Do HM's appear outside the games?


No, HM's and TM's never (see EDIT 2) appear in the _regular episodic_ anime.

It's understandable that these would be omitted from the anime. Often, these
would be used in the games to allow the player to access different areas of
the game. Because the game was viewed from top down, a simple rock in your
path could cause a serious issue. This is why the games had HM's/TM's like
_Rock Smash_ , to get around such obstacles.

However, consider a similiar scenario in the anime. If there was a very large
rock in the path of Ash and co., they would not likely need a Pokemon to move
or smash it. If they did, the rock would have to be _pretty massive_ to block
the way, and there would be other ways around it. The use of TM's and HM's in
the anime/manga was not as apparent, and was left out accordingly.

From [a post on GameFAQs](http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/925601-pokemon-
diamond-version/52636077):

> In the anime, every pokemon pretty much automatically knows every move it
> can learn. Because, ya know... it would make more sense.

And from [a thread on
PokeCommunity](http://www.pokecommunity.com/archive/index.php/t-298496.html):

> I don't think they'll ever be in the anime, since anime-verse move learning
> is generally more... dare I apply this term to the anime... logical than
> game-verse. Anime-verse TM/HM moves seem to be taught and worked on and
> developed like a skill rather than just implanted. Like... Pikachu and Iron
> Tail, Baoppu and Solarbeam... they were both taught and spent time mastering
> that particular move. They didn't just randomly learn it from a rather hazy
> "level up" method.
>
> So yeah, no. TM and HM moves are taught, not implanted. The discs we use in
> game don't really work in anime-verse.

**EDIT:** As noted by @Dragon, there are Pokemon in the anime that know moves
that can be learned through HM's/TM's in the games, such as _surf_ and _rock
climb_ , but there is no evidence that these moves were learned specifically
from an HM or TM.

**EDIT 2:** As noted by @Dragon and @Riley, there is a Pokemon movie called
_Pokemon Origins_ , that seems to have some version of HM's/TM's, as seen
[here](http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/HM#In_the_anime). Sometimes in
the Pokemon movies, different aspects are created or shown differently (as
plot devices, if necessary). In _Pokemon Origins_ , HM's are mentioned, but
their existence in the rest of the anime is still unknown. There is also a
reference to a few different HM's/TM's in the manga and the previously linked
source, so it seems that they may exist in the Pokemon universe, or at least
they did at some point. Credit to @Dragon for this find


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In Pokemon Diamond and Pearl, Ash's Torterra knows Rock Climb which is an HM.
In Pokemon Best Wishes, it was shown near the end that an Oshawatt knows Surf.
However, Ash's Torterra learned Rock Climb while it was a Grotle and he
learned naturally without any help. There's also a lot of other cases of
Pokemon using HMs, but they are all naturally learnt, no disks. In Pokemon
Origins, Red did receive the HM for Cut, and in the manga, Surf was also an HM
that was used quite commonly; it even shows Red trying to get the HM 3 but
fails, then Misty gives him one.

Here is Red getting HM 1:

[![enter image description
here](https://i.stack.imgur.com/alZ1j.png)](https://i.stack.imgur.com/alZ1j.png)

Here is Red in the manga trying to get HM 3, but breaks it in the chapter
_What a Dragonite_ :

[![enter image description
here](https://i.stack.imgur.com/HKVqW.png)](https://i.stack.imgur.com/HKVqW.png)

[Here](http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/HM#In_the_anime) is a link to
Bulbapedia to which I found the answers in.


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