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In several episodes of DB:Z and DB:GT, using SSJ3 form is shown to be _very_
tiring for the user and burns up energy very quickly, compared to
SSJ1/2/enhanced/mystic/etc.

However, when DB:GT rolls around, SSJ4 form, while as tiring as all other
enhanced forms, doesn't seem to put as much strain on the user, nor does it
have a time limit, as with SSJ3.

Is there a distinct reason for this in terms of power drain, or how the body
handles the transformation, or is this perhaps something overlooked when GT
was created?


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Why is SSJ3 shown as tiring to maintain, but SSJ4 is not?


Don't forget that GT is a filler, it wasn't created by the original creator,
**[Akira Toriyama](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akira_Toriyama)**.

There is a very high probability that is was overlooked. Also if I remember
correctly, SSJ3 wasn't shown as tiresome in Dragon Ball GT.


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In SSJ3 form, the energy output is huge, in contrast to the SSJ4 form. The
proof is written in this article from [the Dragon Ball
Wiki](http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Saiyan_3). The reason behind that
is not known, as far as I know.

> In Dragon Ball GT, Goku's child form caused him to have trouble using Super
> Saiyan 3. His small body could not handle the energy output of the
> transformation, and he could only hold it for one minute. [...] It was after
> this fight that Goku discontinued the usage of Super Saiyan 3, as it was
> heavily outclassed by the raw power and minimal setbacks of Super Saiyan 4.


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This is how I remember it:

Goku leveled up to SSJ3 on the other dimension and never really planned to
reveal it because he didn't want to show it on front of Vegeta. At this point
he would have made up his mind if it comes to fighting Vegeta on the
tournament he would resort to Mystic saiyan mode to deal with him.

Turns out Vegeta ends up dead and Goku in desperation to buy time for Trunks
decides to show case SSJ3 to Buu and I believe it's the difference between the
dimensions; I mean, the time it takes to generate the same power in this
dimension could be entirely different I presume and also on the aspect that
Goku didn't spend time on that mode, because he could have been practicing
extensively on the Mystic mode for the tournament and so it took quite a toll
on his energy levels when he uses it first time.

When he uses it on the second time with Kid Buu. He seems to have a grasp on
the energy levels and fights for a longer time until the point he uses a
Kamehameha way in desperation to finish off Kid Buu and also holding out so
Vegeta can fight him causes him to suffer towards the end as well. Also the
fight happens on the Kai's planet which becomes another different dimension
compared to earth also I think that might have aided him a lot because thats
where Gohan reaches ascension trained by Supreme Kai.

I believe it's the changes in the environment primarily taking a toll on
Goku's body. As for SSJ4 I haven't seen Dragonball GT (primarily for the lack
of Bruce Faulconer's theme :P) but as from the images I think the tail helps
the body to handle the power levels differently because I somehow synonymize
that to a controlled transformed Mode.


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The reason for this is because Super Saiyan 3 form was to fully maximize the
ki of the user.

The Dragonball Wikia states :

> Where the third stage of Super Saiyan's purpose was 100% utilization of
> physical stamina, the purpose of the Super Saiyan 3 transformation is to
> increase the utilization of ki, and as a result, the transformation rapidly
> consumes the energy of the user. This notably leads to extended levels of
> fatigue, even long after powering down.
>
> However, with the enormous power, there are some very serious setbacks
> stemming from the rapid use of ki energy. When the then-deceased Goku showed
> Babidi and Majin Buu the form, he cut his remaining temporal revival energy
> in half, and in the anime when he shows his power to the excited Trunks and
> Goten, his energy was completely dissipated, forcing him to return to Other
> World.

As far as Super Saiyan 4 the wikia states :

> Unlike the Super Saiyan 3's strain due to the utilization in ki, this form
> does not require as much energy consumption as Super Saiyan 3's, allowing
> the user to stay in the state at a much longer duration. It also appears
> that the form makes the individual larger in height and muscularity.

Essentially Super Saiyan 3 maximizes the ki output while Super Saiyan 4 is a
more powerful transformation which does not drain the user as much as the 3rd
form does.

Also Super Saiyan 4 is not actually a canon form because it was not developed
by Akira Toriyama.


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Well, the Oozaru (Great Ape) form is portrayed to require no particular
threshold of energy, as even the low class warrior infants are capable. Heck,
even Gohan did it when Vegeta made the fake moon.  
And SSJ4 is definitely something that draws power from that hidden ability:
from the tail and the hair draws in the power of the great ape Oozaru.


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It's because in gt goku was a kid & his body couldn't take the strain like his
grown body did... So whenever he turned to ssj4 & & went back to his grown
body form he was now accustomed and didn't burn energy as fast


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