

(I couldn't find a question like this, if it's been asked before then please
remove it.)

There are several known plot holes in the _DBZ_ story, but one that interested
me is that in the **Buu saga** (in _DBK_ it's in ep127) it's said that when a
human/alien that killed too many innocent people is dead, in hell they erase
his body and his memories and recreate him. Piccolo said that in response to
Vegeta's question of whether he could be meet Goku again, but it very clearly
that he still **won't be revived by the DragonBalls because of that**.

[![enter image description
here](https://i.stack.imgur.com/QplV5.jpg)](https://i.stack.imgur.com/QplV5.jpg)

The content of Vegeta and Piccolo conversation in _DBK_ ep127 (translated from
japanese):

> Vegeta: Tell me just one thing first, in the Next World or whatever it is,
> after I die, will I be able to see Kakarrot again?
>
> Piccolo: At a time like this, it won't do any good to offer consolation, so
> I won't mince words. That won't be possible.
>
> Vegeta: (blinking in shock)
>
> Piccolo: **You'v killed to many innocent people**. Once you die, your body
> will become nonexictense, and your soul will be sent to a world different
> from Goku's. **There, your soul will be cleaned, and your** **memories
> erased, and you will be turned into a new life form.**

(30.5.2012 EDIT) -

Now, this dialogue between Vegeta and Piccollo, is not DBK exclusive (as some
people commented that in the original DBZ they changed it), but **manga
material** as following:

[![enter image description
here](https://i.stack.imgur.com/NcFa6.png)](https://i.stack.imgur.com/NcFa6.png)

_(VIZ release)_

(END OF EDIT)

Now, in the original _DBZ_ they created a plot hole by including a scene of
Frieza, Cell and other villains watching the battle against Buu on earth when
they were in Hell, but I'm not talking about that.

During the **Frieza arc** , Vegeta **was clearly evil**. Though he joined
forces with Gohan, Krillin _et al_ , he still killed a whole village, he's
clearly evil, and yet, when Kaio asked Shenron to revive all the people killed
by Frieza, **Vegeta came back to life** (in _DBK_ it's ep51). If we go by the
assumption that evil people are recreated in hell, **then how was he
revived?**

[![enter image description
here](https://i.stack.imgur.com/kXW5v.jpg)](https://i.stack.imgur.com/kXW5v.jpg)

Though for a fact that Vegeta asked at the end of Buu saga from Prolunga to
bring back all those who died **except for any evil people** to unrule
bringing back Babidi and Dabra, that's not contradict the above, since Piccolo
specified specifically that **Vegeta killed to many people** so he won't have
a body, unlike Babidi that was evil but didn't were just evil and didn't
killed anyone (not by himself at least) and Dabra who Daio sent to heaven.
**it's clearly that there's definite different between killing a lot of people
to be just evil** \- killing a lot of people contaminating the soul so it
needs to be recreate (like Uub) while being only evil not.

Now, I know it's a fact that Toriyama didn't want to make the Buu Saga, and
there _could be_ plot holes and all, but is there still some explanation for
that?

* * *

Note 1: This question came to me after watching _Dragon Ball Kai_. If in the
original _DBZ_ it's not a question, I would love to be enlightened.

Note 2: I'm reffering only to _DBZ_ manga canon material, so evidences from
_DBS_ aren't related.

30.5.2021 EDIT NOTE - After checking the manga, this question is referring
only to the DBK version that seems more loyal to the manga than DBZ, **do not
mix here stuff from DBZ**.


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How was Vegeta able to be revived by the Dragon Balls? (DBK/Manga)


I don't recall this being A Thing in DBZ, nor do I recall the Home For
Infinite Losers (or "Hell") being elaborated on during the Namek arc.

In short: Vegeta was revived because the wish **to Shenron** was for all of
the people who were slain by **Frieza** to be brought back. Because Vegeta was
indeed killed by Frieza, he was resurrected by this wish.

Can't say much about the Buu arc here; in between these series, there may have
been more than a few plot holes laid since this restriction never came up
during Frieza's time.


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I'm not sure if I understand your question, but are you asking why he was
revived because he was supposed to be erased? They explicitly mention in the
series that Enma Daio Sama decided not to erase Vegeta's soul just in case he
needed him for a battle. So what Vegeta said in the screencapture you posted
didnt apply to him due to an Enma Daio Sama decision

[Enma Daio Sama decides to keep Vegeta soul intact in case he was needed for a
battle](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w45drLrRqaY)

(Sorry, I couldnt find an english version for this video, only a spanish one,
but you can use the english subtitles feature of Youtube to add them)


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Since your Note 1 says you're also interested in what happens in the original
DBZ series, and if it's a problem there or not, the following is based on [the
English (Funimation) dub of the original
scene](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yvx4R56Mx0). It seems that in [the
Japanese Kai version](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsuMRSolbz8), Piccolo
has a great deal more specific things to say, which are more problematic, as
you indicate. I won't go into trying to work out the why of this apparent
change, I'll largely just proceed to operate on the basis of the original
Funimation dub, as indicated.

In the Buu saga scene, Vegeta asks Piccolo if he'll get to meet Goku in the
afterlife (or in Other World, if you prefer). Piccolo then informs him that
Goku earned a body and freedom of movement in the afterlife due to a long life
of selflessness and heroics, and that Vegeta should not expect to be granted
the same reward, having spent too much of his life being selfish and
inflicting pain and misery. It is not stated that anything happens that erases
memories or wholly prevents resurrection via Dragon Balls in this version. All
he's being told is that he won't be able to run around being rivals with Goku
in the afterlife.

What we do know is that elsewhere in the series it is implied that a spirit
which is purified of its evil can then be reborn. This is how Uub comes to
exist, as the reincarnation of the purified Buu. And in the movie Fusion
Reborn, with the villain Janemba, there is even a machine for such
purification. However, [many villains and other
beings](https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Hell#Known_residents) are shown in
Hell at various points and in various media.* This suggests that purification
is not particularly fast or even mandatory, and may not necessarily be applied
to the most powerful of entities. This is reinforced by how Fusion Reborn is
predicated upon the (single) demon that operates the machine being lazy and
not properly doing his job. So even if evil spirits are _supposed_ to be
purified quickly, in practice it would seem things are run too inefficiently
to achieve this. There is also the fact that Shenron originally had a one year
time limit on restoring someone to life. If whatever happens to evil beings
upon death prevented resurrection via Shenron (which is who resurrects Vegeta
on Namek), then there must be at least a one year delay between death and
whatever this process is (purification and being reborn, or otherwise) in
order for this time limit to be knowable and meaningful.

Moreover, we are ultimately told that Hell is planet-specific, and so the
above purification stuff is for Earth only. So there's no reason at all to
think that the rules stated for those who have died on Earth will also apply
the same to those who die on Namek or anywhere else. So even if you are right
and Vegeta should have been purified upon death, by Earth's rules for Hell, he
wasn't by the simple fact that he died on Namek and not Earth.

And in any case, even by Earth's rules his resurrection is not prevented. We
know, from Chiatzu receiving a body and Tien a new arm after losing them in
their fights against Nappa, that it is possible for bodies to be repaired or
reconstructed entirely in the afterlife. Upon being wished back to life,
Chiatzu retained his body, and Tien retained his replacement arm. So even if
Vegeta, upon his death on Earth, was denied the retention of his body (he
wasn't, but by a special exception rather than having earned it), his body can
still be reconstructed when something like a wish on the Dragonballs is
made.**

Finally, in the Buu saga, we have two wishes that go out of their way to
exclude the resurrection of evil people. First, when using Earth's dragon
balls to restore those killed in Majin Vegeta's rampage, they specifically
exclude the resurrection of evil people. Second, near the end of the Buu saga,
when Dende wishes the Earth and then its people back using New Namek's dragon
balls, he also specifically excludes evil people from being restored to life.
And while we might say in the first case that maybe the Z-team doesn't know
the exact ins-and-outs of what the dragon balls can do with regards to
reviving evil people, Dende was an expert. Such specific exclusion of evil
beings would be completely unnecessary if they were already impossible to
resurrect.

* * *

*You don't seem to be quite as concerned with why so many decidedly-not-worthy beings have bodies, so I won't put much effort into trying to explain that. Best guess is that anyone of sufficient (will)power can forcibly retain/manifest a body, but they are generally denied freedom of movement and constrained to Hell (or HFIL in the original dub). Though why Piccolo would apparently not know this, and would not predict that Vegeta could probably forcibly retain a body, is less clear. Perhaps he wasn't being as honest as he claimed. But being constrained to Hell alone would be sufficient to keep Goku separated from him in normal circumstances.

**There's apparently a time limit on that, though, which ties into an
exception into the 1 year limit for Shenron. In DragonBall Super, Freiza is
wished back to life with Earth's dragonballs. When the wish is requested,
Shenron says that since it has been more than a year since Freiza's death that
he could only be restored to his body in the state it was in upon his death.
Which in this case consisted of being sliced into dozens of pieces, thanks to
Trunks. So if we accept this bit of Super, the 1-year time limit is more
specifically about constructing a body for the being to be resurrected, and
not necessarily about the soul becoming irretrievable for whatever reason.


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