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We know as a fact that SSJ < SSJ2 < SSJ3 < SSG < SSB . But what about the
mystic form that probably Gohan is going to recover? Is there any official
info / evidence that shows how strong it is compared to the other forms?


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Is the mystic form stronger than SSJ3?


> **SSJ2 < Mystic Form < SSJ3**

Mystic Form is Stronger than SSJ2.

Evidence: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkSsU7tO3Ew>

Mystic Gohan was More Powerful than SSJ2 Goku or Vegeta during fight with Buu,
But Buu after absorbing Gotenks(SSJ3) became stronger than Gohan.

Thus, Mystic form more powerful than SSJ2 but less than SSJ3.

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**Another Evidence**

SSJ3 Goku was equally matched with Kid Buu.
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aMPHOHX9Bc>

Kid Buu was way much powerfull than of its any other form.

Gohan could only overpower Super Buu, But was easily defeated by Gotenks
absorbed Super Buu.

Hence SSJ3 > Mystics Form


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My take on this is that his "mystic" form is just him unleashing all his power
without turning into a SSJ which puts some strain on his body / wastes some
energy.

Basically even if he could go SSJ3 there is no need for that because he can
bring all of that energy out in this "mystic" form without any side effects.
So no matter how strong he becomes with this he does not need to transform
(regarding the normal Saiyan transformation).

Now regarding the "god" transformation (if he ever reaches it), I'm not sure.
Since we have a new kind of ki involved maybe he can not bring that out
without transforming into a SSG but that is even more based on speculation.

In the end, Mystic form > all other normal SSJ forms because it enables him to
draw out all energy without any side effects.


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According to some spoilers appearing in a japanese magazine about the upcoming
Dragon Ball Super episodes

> Gohan is able to hold his own against Super Saiyan Blue Goku in mystic form

Edit: 13/05/2017. After seeing Dragon Ball Super episode 90th

> It's quite questionable if Gohan can hold his own against Super Saiyan Blue


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Well SSJ3 Goku Was Slightly injured but was still equal to Fat Buu but Mystic
Gohan Overpowered Super Buu which was a little stronger than Fat Buu since its
Evil and Fat Buu combined.But lost to Buutenks which had the power of at least
two SSJ3's which does kinda make Mystic a little stronger than SSJ3 cuz its
not rlly a multiplier it just unleashes the energy he can use with all SSJ
forms he has (Including Base) combined,without using a lot of energy and
stress and Kid Buu shouldnt have been the strongest form out of all Buu (Gohan
Absorbed) should have been since its two SSJ3's Combined with mystic and Fat
Buu was all Kai's absorbed so he should have gained there power too but they
never returned after kid buu's demise so rlly Kid buu should be around a
little less than SSJ3 the only reason he overpowered Goku was because his
moves were unpredictable since he attacked without thought so That might have
been a reason :)


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Some people only see Mystic form as a transformation. It is not. The thing is
the Spiritual Gods like Kami, Yama, Kai, Grand Kai, Supreme Kai, God of
Something, God Superintendent, Universal God (Dragon God Zalama) are Ranks
that can pass pressure on the lower Rank very easy.

Since Gohan is a Mortal, below Kami rank, his potential can be opened by
Namekian Great Elder (Kami rank) and even further by the old Supreme Kai
(percentage wise). After training, Gohan of course could have gone to the
Namekian great elder again, but that guy is dead. Anyway, Gohan unlocked the
SSJ2 Stage. When he was a kid he was pretty strong, but he kinda got weaker in
his teenage years. He was weaker than SSJ2 Goku and Vegeta. But still, after
Dabura fight, he got a little bit stronger again because of the near even
fight. Afterward, he kinda was on the level of the cell games. After training
and unlocking his potential on the Planet of Supreme Kai, he basically
absorbed the SSJ1 and SSJ2 states which makes him put out even more energy
that otherwise would have been wasted and he does not get any strain that is
accompanied by the SSJ1 and SSJ2 state. He is basically his base state with
the power level of the maximum SSJ2 state. So in a way, he is stronger than
Goku SSJ3 because he doesn't waste energy that much and has no strain. It's
like the Saiyan God state. Every possible transformation tabs into your
potential.

So lets make this simple: SSJ1 < SSJ1-Mystic=SSJ2 < SSJ2-Mystic=SSJ3 <
SSJ3-Mystic=SSJ4 < SSJ4Mystic=SSG < SSG-Mystic=SSB < SSB-Mystic etc etc.

The Mystic state is basically the transformed strength into the base form
which will in turn be always better or equal to the next transformed state. In
Gohan's case, it is stronger than SSJ3 but not as strong against Buu that
absorbed so many characters. This mystic state basically is the true path to
godhood.


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Okay, so here's the thing: unlike the Super Saiyan forms, Mystic doesn't
universally multiply every person's power by the same amount. The increase a
martial artist gets from Mystic is completely dependent on how much hidden
potential is within that person. If Umigame and Goten were at the same power
level and both went through the Mystic ritual, for example, Goten would
receive a way stronger boost, as he's a martial artist and a half-Saiyan.

If we're talking GOHAN'S Mystic boost, however... it actually is stronger than
Super Saiyan 3. We know this because when Gotenks fought Super Buu, his Super
Saiyan 3 form was stronger than Goku's, meaning his base form must have also
exceeded Goku's. And we know for a fact that Goku's base form was stronger
than Gohan's. Meaning:

Base form Gohan (weakest) --> Goku (mid) --> Gotenks (strongest)

When Gotenks fought Super Buu as a Super Saiyan 3, Gotenks was stronger, but
the strength difference between the two wasn't that great-- Buu even manages
to hurt Gotenks a bit, albeit nothing too major. Yet when GOHAN fought Super
Buu with Mystic, Gohan's strength exceeded Super Buu's by a mile. Therefore,
Mystic provided the greater power boost, as it took the Saiyan with the
weakest base form (of the three I mentioned) and made him stronger than
Gotenks at Super Saiyan 3.


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