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Spoiler alert, stop reading if you're not past _One Piece episode_ 483.

When the guy (Akainu) put a hole in Ace, why couldn't Ace just turn into his
element like all of those elemental Devil Fruit users? I get that magma was
able to burn him, but how does that stop him from just dispersing like the
other elemental fruit users?


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Why couldn't he simply turn into fire and repair the damage?


You can read [here](http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Logia) that:

> **Users of[Busoshoku
> Haki](http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Haki/Busoshoku_Haki) can strike Logia
> users as if they were human**; Rayleigh describes it as the ability to
> "force into solidity the fluid bodies of the near-invincible Logia Fruit
> users" when he explains it. **When Haki is applied to a Logia user while
> they are intangible, rather than nullifying the powers completely; it turns
> the user back to their physical form.** It also allows the one using Haki to
> grab the person in their transformed state as if they were tangible.

From the manga:

> [![enter image description
> here](https://i.stack.imgur.com/LmAYW.jpg)](https://i.stack.imgur.com/LmAYW.jpg)
>
> Chapter 597 Page 18.


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Correct me if I'm wrong, but Logia fruit users cannot "heal" by simply turnin
into their element. They can dodge attacks and are usually immune to Haki-less
sword slashes or bullets and the like, but they're not actually taking damage;
simply turning into their element to avoid it.

Though even if I'm wrong, Akainu pierced right through Ace's body, causing
_internal_ damage as well; if Ace had only received external damage, he might
have been able to survive despite his Devil Fruit being inferior to Akainu's,
but here, a good deal of his internal organs were fried, so there was no way
to heal damage this severe. Not to mention that even if he could turn into his
element and heal, he was too weak to do so; Akainu's attack left him with
barely enough strength left to speak before he died.


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**Certain Logia fruits seem to take dominance over other Logia fruits.**

By my understanding, a Logia who is struck can still be hurt unless they turn
into their element when struck. Several have learned to do that reflexively.
Once damage is done to the user, their Logia fruits have never been shown to
be able to heal the damage. They cannot create additional flesh, organs, etc
from their element but only revert back to their rest state.

Bushoshoku Haki or sea stone can prevent the user's Logia fruit from taking
effect. Those did not happen apparently in this case. Akainu was able to punch
that killer hole in Ace because Ace was trying to defend Luffy. Akainu
attributed the effectiveness to the fact that Magma is superior to Fire. This
has been seen before with some Logia's having specific weaknesses or strengths
compared to other elements. Enel was weak against Rubber. A small amount of
water made the Sand Sand Fruit clump. Apparently Magma can burn Fire as it is
so much hotter.


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It is also possible that if Ace will turn to his element just to dodge that
punch of Akainu, it will go straight to luffy. That's why instead of dodging
it and might hit luffy, he let akainu hit him just to stop the attack.


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