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At the end of episode 5,

> Why does Rem kill Subaru, despite nothing wrong with relationship between
> them ?

These events unfold starting at minute 22.

At the end of Episode 5, at night, Subaru is sick. He goes out to find help.
He is attacked. At 23:35 to 23:40, we hear the sound of an iron weapon (which
is likely to be Rem's morningstar). And Subaru is killed with brute force.

[![Subaru,
dying](https://i.stack.imgur.com/DraOVm.jpg)](https://i.stack.imgur.com/DraOVm.jpg)

However, it is unclear why Rem does that, given that Rem's relationship with
Subaru is looking good. They both go to the village and talk. Rem also looks
happy then (at 17:29).

[![Rem,
happy](https://i.stack.imgur.com/hvPt3m.jpg)](https://i.stack.imgur.com/hvPt3m.jpg)

I did watch Episode 6, where Subaru is very distant from Rem, and he acts
suspiciously, along with having the witch's scent that gets him killed. But
does Rem kill Subaru in Episode 5 for the same reason?

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**Edited** : From @ObviouslyJake's answer, I would like to add some more
detail comparing the time frame in episodes 5 and 6: \- Similar: Subaru's
**witch smell** (which is the main reason, according to @ObviouslyJake) \-
Different: the relationship with Rem

Episode 5: They talk and go to the town together. Rem is happy. (As I said
above, with an accompanying picture). In this episode, I can feel that Rem and
Subaru become friends.

Episode 6: Rem tries to be distant from Subaru. Also, Subaru falls in her
garden twice, which she has to fix. In this episode, Rem and Subaru are
strangers.

Does the difference in the relationship between Subaru and Rem contribute to
Subaru's death at the end of episode 5, compared to episode 6? Or is the
witch's smell the only reason?

Because there are two episodes, with some different choices and paths, I think
there must be something **different** here. I feel there has to be, but I
can't find it.

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**Edit (Aug 31, 2016):** Thanks to @Davies comment and @ObviouslyJake, here is
what I have in my head so far: in episode 6, things are worse than in episode
5. Here, we're talking about why Rem kills Subaru in episode 5, despite them
having a good relationship.

My theory is that Rem has a dual personality: Rem the maid, and Rem the oni
who hates the Witch.

In episode 5, Subaru has a good relationship with Rem the maid. As a result of
having a good relationship with Rem the maid:  
\- Rem smiles at 17:29 (picture above)  
\- Rem gets Emilia to teach Subaru in the evening. (Episode 5, 17:57)  

[![Emilia-
sama](https://i.stack.imgur.com/2qHdcm.jpg)](https://i.stack.imgur.com/2qHdcm.jpg)

However, Rem the oni still hates the Witch, which leads to Rem killing Subaru
because of his Witch smell.

Therefore, here is a summary: Rem will try to kill Subaru because of the Witch
smell unless the following condition is satisfied:

  * Rem is dead (nothing to say, I suppose...)

or

  * Rem the Oni is freed from the tragedy of her childhood. 

(Spoilers for episode 18 follow)

> The second condition is satisfied when Subaru saves Rem from the demon beast
> in the forest in episode 11. The proof is in episode 18, from 20:00 to
> 21:00, where Rem confirms that.  
>
> [![ep18_1](https://i.stack.imgur.com/6Cs1ym.jpg)](https://i.stack.imgur.com/6Cs1ym.jpg)
> [![ep18_2](https://i.stack.imgur.com/wpA4Um.jpg)](https://i.stack.imgur.com/wpA4Um.jpg)

That is what I think, please tell me if I wrong.


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Rem's encounter with Subaru at the end of episode 5


The short answer is... **Yes, he was killed because of his witch smell.**

Rem is very suspicious of Subaru in this time frame. He is a new person,
entering a household she has grown to love. Now think about it: if a new
person, Subaru, comes in, has distinct clothing that she's never seen before,
is very 'friendly' with Emilia the main guest of the house, and smells like
the witch. It's not looking good for our favourite little protagonist in her
eyes.

Furthermore, we saw a scene somewhere in there where Roswaald whispered to Rem
(and Ram I think) to keep an eye on him, as he was also suspicious, feeding
her the seed of doubt about Subaru, even more so than before. Everyone was
suspicious. He could have been a potential threat to their claim for the
kingdom's throne.

Now we move onto Rem's personal reasoning.

**This part is a spoiler for a later episode. If you don't want to know
spoilers, don't read this part.**

> As we know, Rem's family and her whole village, aside from herself and her
> sister, were killed by the witch's cultists, an organisation that, as
> stated, worships the Jealous Witch. **Now think** Subaru, a suspicious
> character who just appeared, smells just like the witch.

> We can tell from this that she has a personal grudge against him for this.
> **In conclusion:** Yes, you're correct. Rem killed Subaru because he smelled
> like the witch, which she had personal history with.

**Edit 1:**

> I believe the change in Rem around Subaru could be an inkling of sympathy
> for him. For example, when he wakes up, he is sporadic, screams and then
> realizes the twins are looking over him, at which point he is back to his
> 'playful, energized' self.  
>  
>  I feel like she would see him as a 'madman' who isn't right in the head, to
> the extent that she is friendly with him, as to not convey her concern or
> trigger his madness. It could also be that she doesn't want to show
> disrespect to him, as he is a house guest, doing so would tarnish her own
> reputation, so in public, it is best to stay friendly.

**Edit 2:**

As the question states, 'Am I wrong?' about the dual personality of Rem.
Personally, I believe you're right and wrong at the same time. I believe
they're the same personality. It's just that Rem is putting on a brave face
whenever she smiles. A quote I very much like, which I heard from someone, is
"Don't trust someone just because the smile." I think that applies here.

Rem smiles a lot, due to the fact that she has to keep a brave face, as to not
disappoint her sister, as well as to not tarnish the manor's professionalism.

Think of it, in terms of two girls. **Girl 1** (Rem) is weaker than Girl 2.
**Girl 2** (Ram) _was_ stronger, though lost her weapon, so she's now weak and
can't use a weapon anymore.

If Girl 1 were to just sulk and throw her weapon away, when she can very well
still use it, how would that make Girl 2 feel? This could also be why she
keeps a smile on her face. She's that used to putting up her smile, to not
disappoint her sister, that she does it with everyone. It's become a natural
thing.

Now onto the subtitles on the last picture you included, as they reminded me
of something else.

She said "My time has been stopped". As in, there was no way for her to move
past that incident that she was stuck in her own madness, revenge stricken
madness. Subaru comes along and saves her from this, later down the line, so
that her time keeps moving (I'm not really sure how, I'd have to watch the
episodes again).

**However** , this doesn't necessarily mean that the reason you provided was
the right one. She stopped trying to kill him, as she realized, through
talking to him, through spending time with him, that he was actually a
trustworthy character, in the sense that he wasn't anything to do with the
witch's cult.

He openly admitted to her that he smelled like the witch. He wasn't trying to
hide the fact, he was also unsure of why it existed. Rem's a perceptive little
demon, so she picked up on how his emotions and expressions were in the end:
trustworthy.

However, having only just met him in episodes 5/6, he was just another witch's
disciple, a threat she had to eliminate for her own gain, for the revenge of
her family, her sister and herself.


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HE HAD WITCH SMELL IN ALL EPS

  * EP4: Rem didn't kill him(probably) 
  * EP5: Perfect relationship + witch smell, subaru felt sick, he needed help(he would die anyway because of the curse) but Rem killed him 
  * EP6: no relationships + witch smell - acting suspicion - justified kill 
  * EP7: no relationships + witch smell - Rem was holding his hand during nightmare

Where is the logic? There is non. Just poor screenwriting.


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Uh I know you guys might already know by now but in episode 5 when Rem and
Subaru are walking back they start talking about demons and gods then Rem asks
Subaru if he likes demons or whatever and he basically said how gods never
really do much and that he likes demons which witches are usually acquainted
with which leads to Rem killing him at the end of episode 5.


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Just wanted to clarify that when Roswaald was talking about Subaru being
suspicious or not, he was only talking to ram, not to rem.

The fact that rem was so friendly with Subaru but kills him hours later
doesen't make much sense to me even considering the witche's scent.

I think a more probable answer is that it was Ram who killed Subaru, but then
again I don't know if Ram ever uses that chain weapon :/

If it really is Rem that kills him, then I think the story was not very well
thought through, because episode 5 is THE episode where Subaru and Rem bond
the most (and genuinely so)


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