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Ultra Instinct is sometimes refered as a transformation and sometimes as a
technique/state. Now apparently there are thousands of fans who believes Ultra
Instinct can be used on top of another transformation, just like kaioken can
be used on top of Super Saiyan Blue and make Super Saiyan Blue kaioken, they
believe you can have a Super Saiyan Blue Ultra Instinct or a Super Saiyan God
Ultra Instinct.

Personally I dont believe this is possible, but there are thousands who thinks
so and this situation already has consequences in the Dragon Ball fandom, for
example there is a videogame mod of Dragon Ball Xenoverse which allows you to
use "Goku Ultra Instinct Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken"

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXHuC2d-0-c&t=9m18s](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXHuC2d-0-c&t=9m18s)

[![Goku Ultra Instinct Super Saiyan
Blue](https://i.stack.imgur.com/8qKbu.jpg)](https://i.stack.imgur.com/8qKbu.jpg)

and there are also fan arts made about it like this one,

<https://i.ytimg.com/vi/FBGPK6OZsZU/maxresdefault.jpg>

Are all these people just wrong or is there any hint/explanation in Dragon
Ball Super that states this is possible?


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Can Ultra Instinct be used on top of other transformations, like Super Saiyan Blue Ultra Instinct?


This is an interesting question, however, as of now I think the answer would
be a no, with regard to stacking it up on top of SSJB

In the anime, The UI transformation was indicated to be a massive power
multiplier, even a lot stronger than SSJB+Kaioken*20, which is a reason why we
see Goku being able to block Jiren's hits despite his god of destruction like
power and also overpower high tier characters like toppo without any effort.
Also, despite the Self movement ability being a skill, we see Goku undergoing
a transformation and he doesn't utilise it naturally like Whis or the other
angels. However, it is possible to stack kaioken on top of it as kaioken is a
special technique and not really a transformation. Hence goku would be able to
utilise Kaioken with the UI transformation assuming his body is capable of
handling it.

Now there is a possibility Goku might be able to adapt this transformation
into his base form where he is capable of utilising his self-movement ability
without undergoing the transformation. Maybe something like the SSJ
transformation during the cell arc, where Goku mastered it and managed to stay
in it for a prolonged period of time as though he was in his natural stage.
Also this can also refer to him absorbing the god form into his base form or
him utilising god ki in his base form.

Although, this doesn't seem practical as the UI transformation multiplier
seems to be significantly higher than SSJB based on Goku's fight with Jiren so
I don't see why goku would wan't to stack the skill with SSJB. Maybe utilising
kaioken with the UI transformation might increase his power humongously.


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Based on some research on Ultra Instinct I'd say yes. However there is no
factual data showing that it happened or is about to happen (yet).

Let me explain why it is possible. First of all, what actually is Ultra
Instinct? **It is a state of the body where it reacts without the brain having
to process the thoughts of responding.** Making reflexes instant since the
muscles respond without the brains having to process it. You can look at it as
the muscles being capable of thinking on their own. Now this is simply a state
of mind for the muscles (it sounds weird, but it is most accurate way to
describe it).

**Now powering up** (with things such as super saiyan, kaioken or maybe even
another form such as Freeza's forms), **affects the stamina, ki and power.**
These 3 are unrelated to the state of the muscles. And we know for a fact they
do stack with each other if different techniques are used. For example
kaioken+any saiyan form. So if the same "buffs" can stack, why can't different
ones?

**What the muscles do and what the ki does are 2 seperate things.** Muscles
need calories (stamina) and input from the brain to act (normally). Energy
attacks require ki. Eleminating the input from the brain is what Ultra
Instinct does, meaning the ki and stamina remains unaffected. By this logic it
is completely possible to have a ki related buff active while having Ultra
Instinct active.

My main source about Ultra Instinct is DBS itself and the episodes where it
was shown as well as the episode earlier on when Goku and Vegeta were training
with Whis and where Whis gave the example about his body being able to avoid
the poop when it isn't wearing shoes. It was described as a state where the
body can think for its own. [Other than that you can find a lot information in
the dbs wiki about ultra
insinct.](http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Ultra_Instinct)


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In the anime episode 129 actually for a brief moment Goku is on his SSJform
during Ultra Instinct... [![SSJ Ultra
instinct](https://i.stack.imgur.com/ginz8.png)](https://i.stack.imgur.com/ginz8.png)
Don't know if it's just a mistake or a spoiler but it does happen so the
answer is yes


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Yes I think Goku could at least go super saiyan and kaikoen in ultra instinct.
Ultra instinct is basically like a tremendous power up in my book because
anyone can use it Master Roshi in the Manga has the ability to use it or at
least some of his movements use it even Beerus and Whis say those movements
look familiar. Goku couldn't go blue or god though in ultra instinct because
those transformations put a lot of pressure on his body


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I’d say yes, at least, with Ultra Instinct Omen, because that version doesn’t
change the hair. Due to UI Omen being a state and not it’s own transformation
it is reasonable to assume that SSJ or Kaioken could be stacked on top of it.
Considering that in UI Omen, Goku still thought about his attacks. But in MUI,
it was all automatic, so Goku could become a Super Saiyan in UI Omen due to
him still having his mind linked with his body.


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Yes ultra instinct is a technique but whis later on in a manga said his ultra
instinct(goku)he see ui as a transformation rather then his base as the angles
there normal state is ui that’s why goku hasent reach his full potential and
yes has kaio ken can be added to ssj or ssjb ultra instinct should do the same
but on a god level


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There is an answer for this in the last manga chapter (#72) and in manga (#73)

(Spoilers)

> Goku uses ultra instinct on top of the super saiyan god transformation in
> manga #72 and ultra instinct on top of super saiyan blue in manga #73


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Yes this is possible if u look in the manga Goku stacks (Super Saiyan God)
With ultra instinct so it's possible. But i don't think he will be using this
"transformation" often now what always get's people is that they think ui is a
transformation and it's not. It's a technique. There stating in the manga that
goku will be using ui as his base form and the silver hair and aura will be a
trump card.


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