Teageru, TeMorau, TeKureru


I already know how to use あげる、もらう and くれる as verbs... But I have some
questions regarding the te form of a verb + てあげる、てもらう、てくれる. Where I'm learning
it they translate Verb(teform)+あげる/もらう as making a favor like

> 友達がゲームをするのを教えてくれた。 My friend made me the favor of teaching me how to play
> the game. Is there a better way to translate it?

What different tone this sentence has in comparisson to something like:

> 友達がゲームをするのを教えた。?

Also, is くれる only allowed when the action is going for me? When talking about
a third person should I always use あげる or もらう?

> "The mother took her children to the school."
>
> 母が彼女の子供に学校で連れてくれた. Is it wrong? How could it be right?
>
> 母が彼女の子供に学校で連れてもらった.
>
> 母が彼女の子供に学校で連れてあげた.

Also I can't really tell what different meaning the sentence would have
changing the end like that, even though I know how to use it as verbs alone.

Sorry for the big question, I hope I am making sense.




  * 母が子供を学校へ連れていった。 
    * Mother took her children to school. (no favor)
  * 子供が母に学校へ連れていってもらった。 
    * The children were taken to school by mother. (favor to children by mom)
  * 母が他人に（母の）子供を学校へ連れていってもらった。 
    * Mother had another person take her children to school. (favor to mom by other)
  * 母が他人の子供を学校へ連れていってあげた。 
    * Mother took another persons children to school. (favor to the other by mom)

Favor here is not necessarily a really big generous favor.

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Edit in reply to comment:

When an outsider does something "for" your sister (an insider), then くれる can
also be used.

  * Simple example: 他人が姉にドアを開けてくれた。
  * Complex example: 他人が、姉に（姉の子供を学校へ連れていくことを）してくれた。

The complex sentence can be shortened to

  * 他人が、姉の子供を学校へ連れていってくれた。(sentence accepted by one native speaker)

However, in that abbreviation, the favor-receiver is not specified. A friendly
native speaker resource (not a linguist) feels uncomfortable with this
sentence

  * 他人が、姉に姉の子供を学校へ連れていってくれた。（sentence rejected by one native speaker)

Despite the fact that this would be OK

  * 姉が、他人に姉の子供を学校へ連れていってもらった。(sentence accepted by one native speaker)

You used a complex example in your question, containing 連れていく. If you are only
interested in the simple example, you can leave the complex example until
later.




  * 母が子供を学校へ連れていった。 
    * Mother took her children to school. (no favor)
  * 子供が母に学校へ連れていってもらった。 
    * The children were taken to school by mother. (favor to children by mom)
  * 母が他人に（母の）子供を学校へ連れていってもらった。 
    * Mother had another person take her children to school. (favor to mom by other)
  * 母が他人の子供を学校へ連れていってあげた。 
    * Mother took another persons children to school. (favor to the other by mom)

Favor here is not necessarily a really big generous favor.

* * *

Edit in reply to comment:

When an outsider does something "for" your sister (an insider), then くれる can
also be used.

  * Simple example: 他人が姉にドアを開けてくれた。
  * Complex example: 他人が、姉に（姉の子供を学校へ連れていくことを）してくれた。

The complex sentence can be shortened to

  * 他人が、姉の子供を学校へ連れていってくれた。(sentence accepted by one native speaker)

However, in that abbreviation, the favor-receiver is not specified. A friendly
native speaker resource (not a linguist) feels uncomfortable with this
sentence

  * 他人が、姉に姉の子供を学校へ連れていってくれた。（sentence rejected by one native speaker)

Despite the fact that this would be OK

  * 姉が、他人に姉の子供を学校へ連れていってもらった。(sentence accepted by one native speaker)

You used a complex example in your question, containing 連れていく. If you are only
interested in the simple example, you can leave the complex example until
later.

