What is the difference in terms of grammar between きり　and　っぱなし?


I'm pretty sure there is a difference between the use of these two words. I
came across the example sentences:

> 息子は、自分の部屋に入った **きり** 出てこない。
>
> 母は入院している父をつきっ **きり** で看病している。
>
> 電車が混んでいて、東京まで立ち **っぱなし** だった。

I read from a textbook that きり means 「〜ままずっと」 and that っぱなし means 「ずっと+verb」.
However, I'm thinking that the difference is that with きり, a negative
situation exists that does not change (or does not hint at changing in the
future). I also guess that っぱなし would indicate that a situation (negative)
continued for a long time but then changed in the end. Does this seem correct?

I put the second example sentence because I was told by a native that when
using きり it is usually followed by 〜ない. Though, the second example doesn't.
Are there two possible meanings when using this grammatical form?




The difference, I believe, is that `～ぱなし` refers to when something is left as
it is for some amount of time, such as a window being left open. It can be
either opened or closed at any time, it just happens to be left open for the
amount of time being spoken about.

`～きり` refers to "completeness", so something has happened and is now finalized
in that form. More like a window being broken. The "broken-ness" of the window
is not something that we can easily switch from.

So in your first example, the son has gone into his room, and now he's done
dealing with people. He's not coming out, the situation is ended. Presumably,
the son will come out of the room again some time in his life, but the use of
`～きり` conveys a sentiment of finality - he won't come out for the rest of the
day.

In your third example, there is no completion involved in standing on a train,
it's just a situation that continues for a while in that state. Unlike the son
in the room, there's nothing really final about the fact that the person on
the train is standing. They could just as easily have been sitting if the
train had not been as crowded, but they happened to be standing for the
duration of the trip.

The second example is not an example of the `きり` grammatical construct you are
talking about. It's part of a compound noun `付{つ}きっ切{き}り`, which means
"constant attendance" or "constant supervision".

Hope that helps.




The difference, I believe, is that `～ぱなし` refers to when something is left as
it is for some amount of time, such as a window being left open. It can be
either opened or closed at any time, it just happens to be left open for the
amount of time being spoken about.

`～きり` refers to "completeness", so something has happened and is now finalized
in that form. More like a window being broken. The "broken-ness" of the window
is not something that we can easily switch from.

So in your first example, the son has gone into his room, and now he's done
dealing with people. He's not coming out, the situation is ended. Presumably,
the son will come out of the room again some time in his life, but the use of
`～きり` conveys a sentiment of finality - he won't come out for the rest of the
day.

In your third example, there is no completion involved in standing on a train,
it's just a situation that continues for a while in that state. Unlike the son
in the room, there's nothing really final about the fact that the person on
the train is standing. They could just as easily have been sitting if the
train had not been as crowded, but they happened to be standing for the
duration of the trip.

The second example is not an example of the `きり` grammatical construct you are
talking about. It's part of a compound noun `付{つ}きっ切{き}り`, which means
"constant attendance" or "constant supervision".

Hope that helps.

