Modifying 形容動詞 (ナ adjectives) with verb phrases


In my textbook, the following phrase:

> **子どもたちが話している** にぎやかな声

is derived from the following example sentence:

> にぎやかな声で子どもたちが話している。

It is the phrase that confuses me. It appears to me that the section in bold
is modifying にぎやか, and if this is indeed the case, I do not understand the
meaning of this construct.

I would appreciate help understanding this phrase.




What to do you think about this parsing: (子どもたちが話している)(にぎやかな声). The verb
phrase modifies にぎやかな声 as a whole.

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**EDIT** :  
The て form and 連体節 (modifying with a verb phrase) doesn't serve the same
purpose. て tends to stream-line (one things after the other) whereas 連体節
modifies the things that follows.

(子どもたちが話していて)(にぎやかな声), the parenthesis can't be placed like that. At most, you
can insert a comma : 子どもたちが話していて、にぎやかな声(…) but it doesn't really make sense if
you don't complete the … part.

In (あったかくて) (おいしい料理), here again parenthesis can't be like that. あったかくて、おいしい料理
(The food is warm and and it is good/delicious) (another way to understand it
would be: The food is warm and (because of that) it is good/delicious)

More information on how to parse sentence can be found in Appendix 8 of the
book "A Dictionary of Basic Japanese Grammar". And if you're brave enough 連体節
are discussed in details
[here](http://www.geocities.jp/niwasaburoo/56rentaisetu.html) ;) (beware EUC-
JP encoding)




What to do you think about this parsing: (子どもたちが話している)(にぎやかな声). The verb
phrase modifies にぎやかな声 as a whole.

* * *

**EDIT** :  
The て form and 連体節 (modifying with a verb phrase) doesn't serve the same
purpose. て tends to stream-line (one things after the other) whereas 連体節
modifies the things that follows.

(子どもたちが話していて)(にぎやかな声), the parenthesis can't be placed like that. At most, you
can insert a comma : 子どもたちが話していて、にぎやかな声(…) but it doesn't really make sense if
you don't complete the … part.

In (あったかくて) (おいしい料理), here again parenthesis can't be like that. あったかくて、おいしい料理
(The food is warm and and it is good/delicious) (another way to understand it
would be: The food is warm and (because of that) it is good/delicious)

More information on how to parse sentence can be found in Appendix 8 of the
book "A Dictionary of Basic Japanese Grammar". And if you're brave enough 連体節
are discussed in details
[here](http://www.geocities.jp/niwasaburoo/56rentaisetu.html) ;) (beware EUC-
JP encoding)

