Combining に/で particles with 等【など】(or other "etc." stand-ins)


I was recently trying to make an **open-ended** enumeration of places in a
construction that would require the use of a に particle. E.g.:

> AやBに行こう

or even:

> A[and the like]に行こう

Preferably using a stronger indicator of open-endedness, such as 等 (to me や
only has a weak implication of other possibilities, whereas here I want to
convey the idea of "places like A [or B]"). But then I realised that the
combination of に and 等 did not sound quite right, and even if it was, I had no
idea how it would go (`Aに等`? `A等に`?)...

Thus my question:

Can 等 (or a suitably similar word for "and the like") ever be used with a に/で
construction? (not necessarily just locations... Tools or "means" as well:
`AやBで行こう`)




A particle normally follows `など`.

`を` and `に` are marked as optional (my dictionary puts them in parenthesis).

> For tools: フォークやスプーンなど`で`食べる人もいる。 "There are also people who eat it with
> things like forks and spoons."
>
> For places: 夏休みはXやYなど(に)行きましょうか。"Shall we go to places like X or Y for the
> summer vacation?"

Interestingly, my dictionary says that if the particles precede `など`, the
sentence is given a derogatory meaning. (`が`, `を` and `は` cannot precede `など`)

> 箸でなど食べられない。 "We can't eat with the damned chopsticks."

* * *

Alternatively I think you can try:

> For places: Xのような場所 "Places like X"
>
> For tools: Xのような道具 "Tools like X"
>
> And by extension: XのようなY "Y like X" for other categories of things you might
> think of.




It is okay to say `などに` and `などで`, but they may sound slightly formal
nowadays. A more casual way of saying it is using `とか`: `とかに` and `とかで`.

