Dropping から when modifying a noun


I'm having trouble with Ｘからきた as a modifier...

I have heard people say 住んでいるのはどこ？ or something like that in order to say
like, "where are you living?"... but what if someone wanted to say どこから来た？ in
this manner? Like... "The country I came from is called Australia".

I can't say から来た国はオーストラリアという because you can't have から just sitting there like
that... and you can't say 私が来た国はオーストラリアだ because you can't tell whether I'm
saying I came from there or came to here (isolated from context).

Is there a way to fit から in there?




If you want to say "the country I came from" you're stuck saying 出身.
Grammatically it feels odd that you can't use から how you want to in noun
modification, but it's just... not said that way. I think that's why we have
the word 出身 in regular use to begin with: it means "where someone comes from."
Since the construction can't be made using から, the question will always use 出身
as well, so there's not _really_ any conflict.

> あなたはどこから来ましたか？  
>  アメリカから来ました。

Unfortunately there's no good way to make the country the subject, so we have
to use 出身 in its place:

> あなたはどこの(国の)出身ですか？  
>  アメリカ出身です。

Semantically I think this has the same meaning as the "来た国" idea you were
trying to go for. You could also say 私の母国はアメリカ or something like that but
you're still using a noun to replace that awkward grammar.




If you want to say "the country I came from" you're stuck saying 出身.
Grammatically it feels odd that you can't use から how you want to in noun
modification, but it's just... not said that way. I think that's why we have
the word 出身 in regular use to begin with: it means "where someone comes from."
Since the construction can't be made using から, the question will always use 出身
as well, so there's not _really_ any conflict.

> あなたはどこから来ましたか？  
>  アメリカから来ました。

Unfortunately there's no good way to make the country the subject, so we have
to use 出身 in its place:

> あなたはどこの(国の)出身ですか？  
>  アメリカ出身です。

Semantically I think this has the same meaning as the "来た国" idea you were
trying to go for. You could also say 私の母国はアメリカ or something like that but
you're still using a noun to replace that awkward grammar.

