とまで parsing and usage


In no game no life, this is one of the first things that is said about
"blank", and it is supposed to translate to:

"Among gamers, they're said to be unbeatable.

勝｛か｝つことは不可能｛ふかのう｝とまで言われるゲーマーの話を‌ (cuts to next scene)

winning is impossible= 勝｛か｝つことは不可能｛ふかのう｝

get said gamer story=言われるゲーマーの話を‌

How does とまで link this together, and how is to grammatically correct here, and
how do I parse this type of grammar consistently?




[This まで (no.
4)](https://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/jn/208999/meaning/m0u/%E3%81%BE%E3%81%A7/) is
what is being used here.

In English, this would be translated in most cases as "even". と just is
quoting what is 言われる. Without context, therefore, I would translate your
phrase roughly as:

> The story of the gamer(s) (ゲーマーの話) (against whom)  
>  people **even go so far as** (まで)  
>  to say (言われる)  
>  that winning is impossible (勝つことは不可能と)"

As far as を is concerned, without further context, we can only say for sure
that it is marking the 'story' as an object for a verb, be it implied or
explicit.




[This まで (no.
4)](https://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/jn/208999/meaning/m0u/%E3%81%BE%E3%81%A7/) is
what is being used here.

In English, this would be translated in most cases as "even". と just is
quoting what is 言われる. Without context, therefore, I would translate your
phrase roughly as:

> The story of the gamer(s) (ゲーマーの話) (against whom)  
>  people **even go so far as** (まで)  
>  to say (言われる)  
>  that winning is impossible (勝つことは不可能と)"

As far as を is concerned, without further context, we can only say for sure
that it is marking the 'story' as an object for a verb, be it implied or
explicit.

