Clarification on 軍の命令で善悪の区別もつかなくなる


I'd like to confirm if I'm reading the two following lines correctly - for
context, this is a conversation between a soldier and an outlaw who used to be
friends and now find themselves at odds.

> A) 君達は軍の命令で善悪の区別もつかなくなってしまったのか！  
>  _Can’t you even tell right from wrong if the army doesn’t order you to?!_
>
> B) 事情も知らないくせに勝手な事を！  
>  _You’re ignoring how things are and just go around doing whatever the hell
> you want!_

(I'm assuming they suppressed the end of B and it's supposed to be "勝手な事を
**する** "?)




> A) [君達]{きみたち}は[軍]{ぐん}の[命令]{めいれい}で[善悪]{ぜんあく}の[区別]{くべつ}もつかなくなってしまったのか！
>
> Your TL: "Can’t you even tell right from wrong if the army doesn’t order you
> to?!"

If it is an attempt at a free translation, yours looks "okay". It is difficult
to comment on a free translation. One could not, however, tell if you
understood the sentence structure from your TL.

This 「で」 means 「によって」.

「A + で + B + になる/くなる」 = "A causes B.", "A brings about B.", etc. This is why I
have to wonder how you chose to use "if" in your translation.

My own (semi-)literal TL would be: "Was it an army order that has made you
guys incapable of telling right from wrong?"

Your TL of the second phrase looks just fine as it nicely captures the nuance
of the original. What is left unsaid at the end would be 「しやがって」,「言いやがって」,
etc.




> A) [君達]{きみたち}は[軍]{ぐん}の[命令]{めいれい}で[善悪]{ぜんあく}の[区別]{くべつ}もつかなくなってしまったのか！
>
> Your TL: "Can’t you even tell right from wrong if the army doesn’t order you
> to?!"

If it is an attempt at a free translation, yours looks "okay". It is difficult
to comment on a free translation. One could not, however, tell if you
understood the sentence structure from your TL.

This 「で」 means 「によって」.

「A + で + B + になる/くなる」 = "A causes B.", "A brings about B.", etc. This is why I
have to wonder how you chose to use "if" in your translation.

My own (semi-)literal TL would be: "Was it an army order that has made you
guys incapable of telling right from wrong?"

Your TL of the second phrase looks just fine as it nicely captures the nuance
of the original. What is left unsaid at the end would be 「しやがって」,「言いやがって」,
etc.

