Placement of まで


I was reading [this](https://japanese.stackexchange.com/questions/35739/whats-
the-meaning-of-%E3%81%BE%E3%81%A7%E3%81%A4%E3%81%84%E3%81%A6), and maybe I'm
just missing some common knowledge, but the following part of the sentence in
question surprised me:

> しかも付録までついてこれは買うしかない！！

Specifically, 「付録までついて」. I wonder why it's not 「付録ついてまで」? It seems to me that
まで ("even") refers to 「付録ついて」 ("present included"). So why is it in the middle
of what it is referring to? Or am I parsing it incorrectly perhaps?

If 「付録までついて」 and 「付録ついてまで」 are both correct, what is the difference between
the two?




付録ついてまで買うしかない is wrong because `te-form of a verb + てまで` only works as an
adverbial **sub-clause** which modifies the following verb. It means "～ even
by V-ing", "～ even when V-ing", "～ even if V-ing", etc. 付録ついてまで買うしかない hardly
makes sense, but it would feel more like "I have no choice but to buy it even
when it comes with a gift". (1万円払ってまで買うしかない makes sense: "I have to buy it
even if I have to pay 10,000 yen.")

The original sentence in question:

> 付録までついてこれは買うしかない

is essentially two independent sentences, simply connected using the te-form.
This sentence can be split into two sentences without changing the meaning
(i.e., 「付録がついている。買うしかない。」). Here, this te-form simply functions like English
[coordinating conjunctions](https://www.englishclub.com/grammar/conjunctions-
coordinating.htm) such as "and". In this case, `verb + てまで` doesn't work well.

Examples:

>   1. 映画館に **行ってまで** 見たくはない。
>   2. 映画館に **まで行って** 見たくはない。
>   3. こんな **苦労までして** 勉強しないといけないの？
>   4. こんな **苦労をしてまで** 勉強しないといけないの？
>

In the above examples, `te-form + まで` and `まで + te-form` are interchangeable
because the first clause is a sub-clause which describes the
situation/condition of the main clause (ie, "even when", etc). If we split
these sentences into two (eg, 「こんな苦労をした。勉強しないといけないの？」), the meaning of the
sentence would change greatly.

>   5. 仕事まで失って、家族はなんと言うだろう。
>   6. [*]仕事を **失ってまで** 、家族はなんと言うだろう。
>   7. ミッキーだけでなくミニーにまで会えて、とても楽しかった。
>   8. [*]ミッキーだけでなくミニーに **会えてまで** 、とても楽しかった。
>

Here, 6 and 8 are wrong because the first clause is not a sub-clause but a
[coordinate clause](http://grammar.about.com/od/c/g/Coordinate-Clause.htm).

You can find more examples of てまで here.

  * [Learn JLPT N1 Grammar: てまで (te made)](http://japanesetest4you.com/flashcard/learn-jlpt-n1-grammar-%E3%81%A6%E3%81%BE%E3%81%A7-te-made/)

Alternatively, you can insert an extra te-form after まで to turn it into a
coordinate clause.

>   * 付録が付くまでしていて、買うしかない。
>   * 付録が付いてまでいて、買うしかない。
>

But these sound redundant and a bit awkward.

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_Note: This answer has been heavily revised after reviewing the comments from
others._




付録ついてまで買うしかない is wrong because `te-form of a verb + てまで` only works as an
adverbial **sub-clause** which modifies the following verb. It means "～ even
by V-ing", "～ even when V-ing", "～ even if V-ing", etc. 付録ついてまで買うしかない hardly
makes sense, but it would feel more like "I have no choice but to buy it even
when it comes with a gift". (1万円払ってまで買うしかない makes sense: "I have to buy it
even if I have to pay 10,000 yen.")

The original sentence in question:

> 付録までついてこれは買うしかない

is essentially two independent sentences, simply connected using the te-form.
This sentence can be split into two sentences without changing the meaning
(i.e., 「付録がついている。買うしかない。」). Here, this te-form simply functions like English
[coordinating conjunctions](https://www.englishclub.com/grammar/conjunctions-
coordinating.htm) such as "and". In this case, `verb + てまで` doesn't work well.

Examples:

>   1. 映画館に **行ってまで** 見たくはない。
>   2. 映画館に **まで行って** 見たくはない。
>   3. こんな **苦労までして** 勉強しないといけないの？
>   4. こんな **苦労をしてまで** 勉強しないといけないの？
>

In the above examples, `te-form + まで` and `まで + te-form` are interchangeable
because the first clause is a sub-clause which describes the
situation/condition of the main clause (ie, "even when", etc). If we split
these sentences into two (eg, 「こんな苦労をした。勉強しないといけないの？」), the meaning of the
sentence would change greatly.

>   5. 仕事まで失って、家族はなんと言うだろう。
>   6. [*]仕事を **失ってまで** 、家族はなんと言うだろう。
>   7. ミッキーだけでなくミニーにまで会えて、とても楽しかった。
>   8. [*]ミッキーだけでなくミニーに **会えてまで** 、とても楽しかった。
>

Here, 6 and 8 are wrong because the first clause is not a sub-clause but a
[coordinate clause](http://grammar.about.com/od/c/g/Coordinate-Clause.htm).

You can find more examples of てまで here.

  * [Learn JLPT N1 Grammar: てまで (te made)](http://japanesetest4you.com/flashcard/learn-jlpt-n1-grammar-%E3%81%A6%E3%81%BE%E3%81%A7-te-made/)

Alternatively, you can insert an extra te-form after まで to turn it into a
coordinate clause.

>   * 付録が付くまでしていて、買うしかない。
>   * 付録が付いてまでいて、買うしかない。
>

But these sound redundant and a bit awkward.

* * *

_Note: This answer has been heavily revised after reviewing the comments from
others._

