Difference between に and まで?


What's the difference between the particles に、and まで? And what does it mean
when combined to make までに?

I've been quite confused as to what these two mean. And I was hoping someone
could compare the two to help me understand.




First I guess it would be good to plainly lay out what the two mean.

に can be used to mean "to (a destination)", the precise time of an even (３時
**に** **at** 3 o'clock) attached to a verb in stem form to mean "to do that
thing (見 **に** 行った went (there) **to** watch (it)) as well as some other
cases.

So, it's something like "to" or "at" or "in" etc.

まで is a little simpler. It basically means "until". Whether it's talking about
_until_ a certain time, or _until_ a certain state.

When they are combined I believe in most situations it is just that they are
being attached to the same word at the same time.

その日 **までに** 提出してください。 Please submit it **by** that day.

It's like saying "up to and on that day", or maybe "up to and including".

In this case, it just so happens we can translate it as one word, "by".

This can be done with other particles too. では には にも かも までも etc.

These can also often be translated as a single word.

In some cases, the second particle makes the first unnecessary so it gets
deleted essentially. You wouldn't say 私がも just 私も for example.




First I guess it would be good to plainly lay out what the two mean.

に can be used to mean "to (a destination)", the precise time of an even (３時
**に** **at** 3 o'clock) attached to a verb in stem form to mean "to do that
thing (見 **に** 行った went (there) **to** watch (it)) as well as some other
cases.

So, it's something like "to" or "at" or "in" etc.

まで is a little simpler. It basically means "until". Whether it's talking about
_until_ a certain time, or _until_ a certain state.

When they are combined I believe in most situations it is just that they are
being attached to the same word at the same time.

その日 **までに** 提出してください。 Please submit it **by** that day.

It's like saying "up to and on that day", or maybe "up to and including".

In this case, it just so happens we can translate it as one word, "by".

This can be done with other particles too. では には にも かも までも etc.

These can also often be translated as a single word.

In some cases, the second particle makes the first unnecessary so it gets
deleted essentially. You wouldn't say 私がも just 私も for example.

