Does Rin's Eclipse scene "Beginners" in Fate/hollow ataraxia follow the UBW route?


Is Rin's Eclipse (H-)scene (Beginners) in Fate/hollow ataraxia canon?

I'd like to know if it follows Rin's true ending. Just to make it clear, I'm
not asking if FHA follows UBW, I'm asking if that H-scene follows UBW True End
(or maybe Good End).




Spoilers regarding the H-scenes ahead

I take it it appears too good to be true for you. Now, is it canon? Nasu did
confirm it as such.

If I had to state my opinion I'd say as a whole Rin's scene does seem very
reasonable just like the other eclipse scenes. If something, I'd add that the
competition part (they fight to win over who pleasures the other more; Shirou
becoming even a bit cruel and unlike himself whe he tells her at the beginning
to touch herself while he watches), Rin using her magic to make her weight
disappear even when orgasming and the use of apphrodisiacs may be more like
fanservice, but then again it is an eroge and since the very beginning Nasu
made Shirou unable to give mana but through sex because he has no magical
knowledge. You can't get more porn vibes than that. Think that Rin becoming
more feminine, enjoying herself with Shirou and starting to accept her
feelings a bit more is what makes sense after the UBW route.

I was the first one to reply this question and now there are 5 other answers
(there are 6 counting mine as of now, from кяαzєя, Memor, Lord, Echomateria,
Dumpster Player and myself). I don't agree with some statements from кяαzєя as
I showed in my comments to his answer. After reading all the answers I have
more reasons to believe it does happen after UBW. Some of the arguments given
in other answers are that the eclipse scenes are canon as I had said in my
original post, that they don't belong to Fate Hollow's actual game but are
instead set up to be a direct continuation of some of the original game
endings... And it's true. They don't belong to the storyline followed by Fate
Hollow and it's also true they've been composed to follow Fate Stay Night
endings. It does make sense for them to be a continuation as their canonicity
has been established by the game authors. Pretty much everyone defend this
point of view (Echomateria, Memor, Lord and myself outright defend this point
of view).

About Hollow's true ending, which happens outside the time loop, Memor and
Dumpster didn't touch this topic as it wasn't asked by the OP. I would
completely agree with Echomateria and Lord's answer in that regard though a.
As echomateria said in his answer it would be an alternate reality, just like
each route is an alternate reality from each other. So basically it would be
another route made by Nasu. According to the creators an scenario also exists
where it is actually the sequel to Stay Night. This was actually treated in
more detail by Lord in his answer. When Takeuchi was asked whether Hollow is
the continution of all 3 routes his conclusion was that the reader should
interpret it however he wants, so either way.




Spoilers regarding the H-scenes ahead

I take it it appears too good to be true for you. Now, is it canon? Nasu did
confirm it as such.

If I had to state my opinion I'd say as a whole Rin's scene does seem very
reasonable just like the other eclipse scenes. If something, I'd add that the
competition part (they fight to win over who pleasures the other more; Shirou
becoming even a bit cruel and unlike himself whe he tells her at the beginning
to touch herself while he watches), Rin using her magic to make her weight
disappear even when orgasming and the use of apphrodisiacs may be more like
fanservice, but then again it is an eroge and since the very beginning Nasu
made Shirou unable to give mana but through sex because he has no magical
knowledge. You can't get more porn vibes than that. Think that Rin becoming
more feminine, enjoying herself with Shirou and starting to accept her
feelings a bit more is what makes sense after the UBW route.

I was the first one to reply this question and now there are 5 other answers
(there are 6 counting mine as of now, from кяαzєя, Memor, Lord, Echomateria,
Dumpster Player and myself). I don't agree with some statements from кяαzєя as
I showed in my comments to his answer. After reading all the answers I have
more reasons to believe it does happen after UBW. Some of the arguments given
in other answers are that the eclipse scenes are canon as I had said in my
original post, that they don't belong to Fate Hollow's actual game but are
instead set up to be a direct continuation of some of the original game
endings... And it's true. They don't belong to the storyline followed by Fate
Hollow and it's also true they've been composed to follow Fate Stay Night
endings. It does make sense for them to be a continuation as their canonicity
has been established by the game authors. Pretty much everyone defend this
point of view (Echomateria, Memor, Lord and myself outright defend this point
of view).

About Hollow's true ending, which happens outside the time loop, Memor and
Dumpster didn't touch this topic as it wasn't asked by the OP. I would
completely agree with Echomateria and Lord's answer in that regard though a.
As echomateria said in his answer it would be an alternate reality, just like
each route is an alternate reality from each other. So basically it would be
another route made by Nasu. According to the creators an scenario also exists
where it is actually the sequel to Stay Night. This was actually treated in
more detail by Lord in his answer. When Takeuchi was asked whether Hollow is
the continution of all 3 routes his conclusion was that the reader should
interpret it however he wants, so either way.

