text:  it's still incumbent upon churches and uh schools to find some other way um again i'm not gonna i'm not gonna attribute with what happened we don't know enough and i think just like you have msnbc blaming the gun for us to you know make up stories before we know i i find that to be just a dishonest i gotta run charlie i appreciate the very good comments we'll continue with this after the break it's 833 joe paggs we're back after this stay here this is the joe paggs show