 cartoonish aspect to it like and make it seem more ridiculous and almost to me i know that probably helped him get the job to me it almost hurts him coming in where i think he would have been a better candidate beforehand if that makes sense had he not done the podcast with lebron and i don't think that's going to matter in the long run it just sort of adds to the uh lakersness of the whole thing um the press conference was very much him though and it's listen him talking to the media every day and i've heard uh i heard steven a talk about this recently um