 as being people who have families and who make families as havens for the lonely people of the world. And that's somewhere that people can come to for refreshment and to find a sense of identity so they don't have to find it in chaos and in politics. Joy Pullman is executive editor at The Federalist, a Hillsdale graduate and author of the new book, False Flag, Why Queer Politics Mean the End of America. Joy, thanks for joining us here on the Radio Free Hillsdale Hour. Thanks for having me.