 And he took OKC to the playoffs like they were trying to rebuild. And Chris Paul's like, no, no, no. Get on my back, Shea Gilgis, Alexander and whoever else was on that team at that point. We're winning a bunch of games. So I give him credit, man. He clearly loves the game and he's clearly respected as a veteran guy that, as you said, can kind of step into a step into a an organization and make a difference with young people.