 as well with the lakers and obviously his father was very much removed from the league at that yeah and certainly his father was not why he got anywhere i mean his father just gave him some genes and i'm sure helped him growing up in terms of playing with him and all that and that's not to say lebron's not doing that as well and yes i'm torn because i've got two daughters and i heard jason smith say this i agree would i do almost anything for him yeah i'm not going to go felicity huffman and laurie laughlin route yeah try to get them into school and go to prison sure