 She was on MSNBC, huh? And they gushed all over her defense of Joe Biden. Even she said, well, he got off to a slow start. But after that, he picked it up. And ultimately, it's about substance, she said. Ultimately, it's about substance. I've seen him for three and a half years. And I can tell you, that last 90 minutes is no reflection of how he's been for the last three and a half years. Gushed all over her. So she will be the person next up