 a religious leader who was running a school in Illinois, and his name was Wilbur Glenn Boliva. And he was preaching, at least for 10 years, in the school system, that the Earth was flat. And this was to thousands of grade schoolers and high schoolers. And he was just convinced that this was the way, and he thought it was completely flat. I mean, this is, you know, like all the flat earthers, I think, pretty much ascribe to the same beliefs.