 So one of the main reasons when people come up to me and say Obama's really running things, I say no, is because I don't think they get along. I don't think Obama and Biden really got along. I think clearly Biden came in, he talks too much, he thinks he's an expert on everything, had to bloviate on every meeting that they were in, where Barack Obama liked to run small, efficient meetings, say little, listen a lot. He would come in and take over everything, and he was vehemently anti-military.