 taken into identity politics you know asked for are basically they want a sense of identity and formally families would give that sense of identity you would know who you were because you talk like you know dad you have the nose of your grandpa you you know oh you have that sort of i mean you know pick a last name smith you know the smith walker you know those are the things that you know hundreds and thousands of them over your lifetime being embedded in the culture and the people gives people a sense of identity to the point that they don't even have to talk about they know who they are