 Then when I got to be about 12 or 13, I would look in the back page of the local newspaper for readers and advisors, and I would go, and I built my age, and I'd get readings, and then I just, I was in some type of a store that had all types of novelties, and I saw a deck of tarot cards, and I bought them, and I just, I don't know, just started to read cards, and