 Hey, how's it going? You know, you mentioned the Chicago Bulls as the honorable mention, but I would say over the last three, four years at least, that's the definition of mid. And I think if we go back to 2000, obviously the post-Jordan era, minus the Derrick Rose years, you had some really bad seasons, but you had teams that were just blah, to say the least. And what really puts them in that position is when you have the owner in Jerry Reinsdorf who is talked about