 At USC, before he played a game, then when he finally did play, averaged about two points a game. I was shocked when he said, I'm going to go into the NBA. His dad says, well, he makes his own decisions. He's a young man. Really, dad? Why don't you get involved? I mean, you know what the NBA is like. There's only one LeBron James, as great as they, they called him the chosen one, as great as they thought he'd be. He was actually better. So he's still thriving at 38, which is unthinkable. He just said he's so unlikable to me.