 what they go through, the process to get there, how good they have to be, and how little they are paid. Again, as our friend Jade said, the payoff is the clout. Jade's right. All right, well, hey, more Kavino and Rich. We'll talk some NBA. Today, a very special anniversary, and it has to do with the gaming world. So we'll get to that and a bunch more. Kavino and Rich, right here on Fox Sports Radio.