 some of the things he thought were crucial at the beginning of the convention, proposed in the Virginia Plan, don't survive till the end. And that actually is the great story about it, because Madison, at the beginning of the convention, versus Madison, we read about in the Federalist Papers, make very different arguments, but it's the same statesman, and it's the same principles driving it. But he's learned. He's learned as he's gone, as he goes along, and he loses, and then of course by losing, he ultimately wins.