 when they did win that 2020 bubble title, were like, OK, it's worth it. But now are like, was selling the soul of the organization worth it for that title in the bubble? And many would say, yes, you play to win the game, you play to win championships. But I think there's a lot of people in L.A. that were like, I'm over this. I mean, I've said this before is like living here. I could tell you half a dozen people that I speak with on a regular basis that used to be Lakers fans are like, I just have no interest in supporting this organization at this point.