 And again, if you're watching this coverage today on Salem News Channel and you're seeing the clips as we're playing them for you, you see Biden's face. It's actually sad. And I don't say that to be a smart aleck. He's staring into the abyss. He's got that old man stare, that glare that he would look over at Trump. But when he wasn't looking over at Trump, he would just look down or he would just look out.