 that there's nothing sinful about it if it's a person who does that. And I respectfully disagreed with him and said, you know, everything from your brain telling you you're in the wrong body to my wife's cancer is the product of the fall, sin twists the whole world, and we all have sins we grapple with, some more than others, all of us different from each other, but it's still a sin. God made us male and female. We don't get to change it.