 But he never really told him that he was involved in it. But that's fine. If he's suddenly against it, I just see that as a sign of victory and success. And he did, as usual, wipe the floor. It's not hard to do. But he is smart. He's well-spoken. Let's not take that away from him. From Eric Swallowswell, another communist Chinese spy. He got questioned by multiple known communist Chinese spies.