 yes indeed we dug into the vault of over 500 programs and we've grabbed two for you this week one from 1997 art talked with al belick discussing of course his work on the philadelphia experiment amongst other things and then the second show is from 1997 as well it's a classic edition of open lines so for you coast insiders we'd like you to take a listen to this it's classic audio it's available to you guys it's easy to become an insider huh george