 Um, there's a secret recipe and, uh, listen to your podcast to find out what the, I'll give a, a little, uh, cross promote for your podcast. When is your, when is the podcast that we did with you going to come out? Uh, probably, probably before August, but it may be early August. Cause we have a, a podcast that we're going to produce at, at ICAST. Uh, so that might be something that kind of interferes with when this one comes out, but in the next couple of weeks.