 eight to ten years or so, and he just finished his stint with Carolina, and last year he had 47 points in 80 games played. So the Predators had a really, really good start to the offseason, and they're just getting started. Who knows what else they're going to do. That's going to be a little concerning for the Wild, because the Predators and Wild are in the same division. And for the Wild, they made a pretty good signing. They signed a bottom-sist guy by the name of Jakob Trennan, who actually was in Nashville