 rose up the corporate ladder to even know what running a ministry or being a pastor was all about. But that's how God works. He always uses the least likely. And so there was a period of time that I had to learn to walk, talk, eat, do everything again, just as I was a young child, because everything is shut down. And a lot of that is fatigue and pain comes with the after effects of botulism, toxin, too. But God also used that for his perfect plan.