 also say that those are among the things that would have been maybe discussed in a broader way had she been more of a threat politically during the 2020 primary she wasn't so it wasn't and so i think that's one of the conversations that the country would absolutely have if she did become the president or become the presidential nominee but i think the point's been made too that it does make sense packaging joe biden as listen we have to find a way for you to become heroic and patriotic right he's