 Anytime I hear that guy's a Rule 5 or he made it to the big leagues in the Rule 5, I always kind of want to go over there and shake their hand. I never really get the opportunity to, but if I ever do get a chance to go over there and say congrats, I feel like that's a big accomplishment for them. Somebody gets an opportunity to come up to the big leagues in not the most usual fashion of getting called up from AAA, but when you get somebody who, hey, we're just going to take a chance on this guy and it works out, it's always pretty cool feelings.