 probably more net really there's four steps you got to see if it'll accept the stain dollop of water while water goes into the wood it passed that test then you want to clean it you don't have to use the wet and forget i mean it is the easiest product in the world and it'll do a great job but it you know if you're going to use it just it's not immediate okay you're not going to do anything to it it's going mother nature is going to do the work