 We have more material, more milk components to do that. So really got to recalibrate how we're looking at this as a dairy community and a dairy industry. Certain places I go to talk about grazing, it's very well received. And it ends up being almost more preaching to the choir than anything. And then other places I go, it's not as well received because it's not what people do. And it's a thing of the past. And we've spent several decades moving away from that. And so people don't really want to hear that.