 And Stott said, oh, no, no, no, don't follow Dr. Martin Lloyd-Jones' advice and leave the Church of England, because it's going out of state, because this is the 60s when they were starting to lose the track of biblical morality on many things. Oh, no, no, stay in and be an influence for good. And that persuasion, I won't get into all the names and nicknames of it.