 take a pause right there folks uh... we're just getting started on this conversation and it's an important one uh... regarding what's going on with the texas children's hospital uh... whistleblower case and uh... looks like it's going in the right direction our guest is maddie rowley from the manhattan institute she's the logos fellow and an investigative reporter and we're coming right back don't go anywhere this is america at night with rich valdez