 They kind of reined him in with the Raiders last year because they were just trying to win games and save their jobs and get jobs. The coaches kind of coached conservatively. But now you have this new coach staff owner, Luke Getze, who has worked with Aaron Rodgers. He worked with Justin Fields. This is another West Coast scheme. I'm interested to see how O'Connell does. I'm going to give Minshew the veteran because I know talking to someone close to Gardner,