 where they were involved is very different than it might have been 10 or 15 years later. And, Cliff, now you were a practicing attorney, you were practicing in law, and you're joining this business. Now, obviously they recruited you to be general counsel, in-house general counsel. I would fathom to say that you didn't go to school in college or have a background in business. It was probably more history or something like that. Did you even have an interest in going into business when you were growing up?