 And he was bringing up some conspiracy theories, and finally I said to him, I said, one of the things you need to understand is that 5% of the world is nuts. That 5% is crazy. And I said, that includes people on my side and people on your side. Oh, no. And the guy started laughing, and he said, yeah, it's probably a little higher on my side. True enough. But, I mean, at least he was able to look at it and step back a little bit, right? Right, and we had an intelligent conversation. We laughed and shook hands, and it was good, you know?