 And at that point, I realized I didn't. I was not a very experienced journalist. I had neglected to ask him that basic question. So I took my sheet with the contact information and put it in a file and put it in a drawer and put it in my desk. And then, it must have been two or three months later, I'm in the newsroom. And back then, they had these machines. It's still in old newsrooms. The technology's changed a little bit.