 the kid was only 20 years old. You know, he was probably a million miles an hour in his mind, you know. From what I understand, and this was told to us by James, again, our sales guy, he keeps up on this stuff. He said the guy did not, the cop did not have a ladder. He had to pull himself up, like doing a pull-up to see it. And, of course, he couldn't pull himself up after the... Oh, sure. Yeah, he couldn't. Yeah, I didn't hear that part. Right. So he was...