 a few days before the celtics vaulted back ahead of the lakers with the 18th banner um and they're now 18 and the lakers are 17 and who knows where that'll go moving forward and dan i want to jump in and ask you this as a young kid growing up near the forum they had the balloons in the rafters for the lakers to win that the finals i think the sixth or seventh loss in a row and are the balloons still up there that was always the joke the balloons never got released