 whatever, whatever they use nowadays. I don't know to try to get him, you know, through that, through that hour and a half. So, um, it was really interesting because a lot of people watched it and we're not all that surprised. Some people who haven't been paying as close attention, watched it and were shocked. And it is shocking. You know, it is shocking. Well, will they let me, cause this is maybe my bigger problem with all of this.