 I think there are a lot of similarities, and I can't say I saw Maurer that much, although we had the same lawyer, the same attorney, Ron Shapiro, who always was telling me great things about Joe Maurer. But I loved the way that Maurer played the game, and he played all the time, and maybe paid a price for it, because that's a tough position where you get beat up. And he was a guy, he was a catcher, but he ran well.