 Really not that good at that. She's good at debating, but not at campaigning. I just can't see her winning. She might run, but I don't see that she would be a good candidate. Right, but if she goes and grabs a Governor Shapiro or a Governor Whitmer in a battleground state in the Midwest, you wonder if it makes it more formidable. I talked to Trump the other day, and he just said...