 But even to the point about African Americans owning slaves before the Civil War is actually something that's very interesting, right? About 10% of the country owns slaves. About 10% of free blacks own slaves. So they're kind of like right on par with everyone else with what they're doing. They make this big point about criminal justice reform coming out of the left today that, well, there's more black men in prison, therefore the institution must be wrong. Well, if we're to apply that logic...