 By the way, Frenzy does not talk to Scarcella. Scarcella won't talk to her. Scarcella won't talk to anybody except to us, though. We really don't understand who he is and what he's doing, unless you are willing to listen to the burden. We're really proud of that aspect of it. We think she's getting a really full sense of what went on. Not only a full sense, but...