 So, you know, give them a try and see what you can find out there in that deeper water. For those that like the fish shallow, obviously you can still use a jig and a minnow. And of course, plastics, you can never go wrong with plastic. The Berkeley Gulf and those types of minnow type baits. And I find not the paddle tail, but those that are the slender, more type. 16th ounce jig, go up there in that 8 to 10 feet of water.