 Yeah, you know, Tom, we talk about him and the amount of volunteerism that he does, the number of boards that he's involved in. We were talking about it before the show, the volunteering you do, the volunteering I do. You know, we're still working full time, though. But, you know, there's a calling to service. And some people just have that inside of them. And, you know, it almost turns into another full time job.