 so that he can throw the bobber right on top of that structure. And you can actually keep your bait a couple feet above the bottom because you want those walleyes that are very active at night and feeding to come up for that bait. And you're using a lighted bobber, a strike indicator that you can easily see so that when those walleyes grab that leech or that minnow that you're using for bait, you're gonna see it and you're gonna be able to get that hook set.