 either one of them i guess the classic debate the lincoln douglas debates of old right we're never going to get to see that again right two statesmen up there men or women and saying okay i get your point but here's the reason why that's different and literally going at it for that we're never gonna and i'm not ripping biden but biden if he could do that i think no one would be scared by what we saw we're never going to see that sort of thing again are we it's it's too dangerous that someone would be smarter than the other guy right that those days are gone your thought