 And he wasn't good. He really wasn't good. No, he really was not. And you could tell that Stephanopoulos believed he wasn't good. And he was just accosted on the street by somebody who recorded him. And he said, yeah, the guy can't do another four years. So he was pretty convinced there. Yeah. So there was something wrong with that interview as well to the people who actually conducted the interview. Right. So you know that...