 oh no that's how it was on uh one of the stations my dad worked at and it was a night show that was like 10 to midnight i think it was okay okay um and she would come on it was right after um gosh uh bruce williams okay for a while there was a talk then i think it was the the network that was carrying her and uh i worked a couple times on like the overnights just you know i was young i was like 14 15