 what I would call transversional experiences and this quantum mind idea. You know, you have to figure out, well, what is it? You know, it's not just hand-waving. And so I said, well, look, the simplest thing, it's informational, so let's start with bits. So this was when I was guided to do this by a friend of mine who was a deep meditator and interested in this sort of mathematical physics back 20 years ago, 25 years ago. And I realized, you know, I could just start with bits