 hall of fame after a while but not kickers or punchers i think ray guy might be the gino would know we'll have to check with gino since paul fouled away and it's so it's a race between gino and ham but i would say ray guy people would be like no you need a modern punter and i'm going to be honest i don't know a modern punter i don't have the comp reggie robey would be my next guy but he's been retired for 15 years so i'll have to come up with the current