 call a group of those elders together and he says to them that god the holy spirit has made them overseers to be shepherds or pastors right for god's flock his church which he bought with his own blood right so we got a lot of names for this position they're called elder pastor overseer minister could you give us a simple job description yeah yeah that's a that's a great question it's carrying on the great tradition that uh you see already in the old testament uh where uh