 central Minnesota foot and ankle, and Dr. Karen Rao, Dr. Greg Rao with us. Greg, what's the difference between an orthopedist and a podiatrist? Well, an orthopedist is a physician that's been trained in all bone and joint disorders. Podiatrists are specialists in everything that happens from below the knee down. So we'll take care of everything from skin down to bones, foot, ankle, and lower leg. How long have the two of you been practicing your craft?