 Couldn't interrupt him, and you couldn't do the, it was a very, very structured, here's what the moderators can do, here's what the candidates can do. As far as why they put him up, they thought that after the State of the Union Javier, where Biden got through it, that he could do the same in a debate with no notes. Pretty insane, right? There you go. Dan Jermick, Iron River, Michigan. I feel sorry for Biden after Washington debate.