 that which is honored among men, God calls an abomination. He said that which is highly esteemed among men is clearly an abomination in the sight of God. So you need to look at it through the eyes of the Lord and you need to understand what apostle is and a prophet is and what a teacher is, 1 Corinthians 12, 28, and an evangelist and a pastor and what their function is, though they all have the end aim in view, okay? But again, we're just talking about the price paid to give us what we have again.