 uh... zack smith is a senior legal fellow and the manager uh... the supreme court and appellate advocacy program at the edwin meese the third center for legal and judicial studies at the heritage foundation no that's not a mouthful and he's a former assistant united states attorney uh... zack smith uh... my question here is ok so judge eileen cannon shows bravery courage uh... patriotism scholarship all of the above she's a judicious and she does the right thing