 unavailable hold on to that thought because we got to take a little break and we come back we're going to continue on with kathy callahan she's the author of welcoming your puppy from planet dog we're going to give a copy of the book away to the third caller that calls into sydney right now at the network and uh call it 818-818-6401 and the book is yours again that's 818-818-6401 i'm john patch jasmine the dog trainer