 Um, but this, this gave you the, the, the kind of fruit in the door type thing that people weren't, didn't find them anyway. You know, it was just, they were also interested to talk to you. And it also meant that I could cover a lot of subjects that I wouldn't, you know, ordinarily look into. Um, and it was just, it was just a great, a great experience. And the SPR, once they, once they hired me, um, and that, that itself was quite a,