 waiting for their turn to go in to read with the casting director. This was going on. So not only the anthology shows, but westerns. And these four guys were making the rounds of, you know, and one of them would get something, and then when they got on it, they'd go, hey, you gotta see Dern. You gotta talk, really? Casting director calls him in, you know, and that's what I remember. And I'm sure they all hit the Quinn Martin circuit as well.