 No. He played in Pro Bowls where they actually tackle each other. He did. They were playing tackle football. I saw an old highlight of Chuck Foreman. I saw the same one. And they're wearing full pads. He takes the hand off, and he's literally trying to run and score or get a lot of the yards, and there are guys bringing him down. It was a football game. It was a football game. It was. But let me say this, too. If you watch...