 So Paul, we know from Romans, and we can kind of affix when Paul wrote the letter of Romans. We know he was planning to go to Rome. Now, he was going to go from there to Spain. That's what he says at the end of Romans in chapter 15. And then Jesus appears to Paul after the trial business has started. He says, you're going to go to Rome. But if you read Acts, what Jesus could have said in that vision, but you have no idea how you're going to get there.