 So now you're going to get Pete Mackey out there to... I'm sorry, David Popkins out there to... Pete Mackey, I'm sorry, I was right the first time. I don't know what I'm saying. Pete Mackey, I see you second-guess yourself in your brain. But Pete Mackey out there and talk things over. Well, I think the conversation is pretty simple. They've got DeYoung, his last three at-bats, all swinging and missing. Three strikeouts, all on sliders. And we've seen Duran with a...