 Right. Who's spoiling the whole family, messing up the whole thing. It was all going good until you came along. Have they ever liked you, Pim? Has this always been a tumultuous relationship? No, no. Honestly, it's been good, but like I said, it's just we've never kind of, they just, like I said, they don't do. Okay, so you said to them, I don't want this, and now that hurt their feelings. That's where we sit today, correct?