 yeah ever since uh yeah it's like and this is where i sound like the you know the old man get to get off my lawn old man but it used to be a game back in the 70s and 80s you wanted to see these guys john you know it's true you laugh but you know it's true john it was a big deal growing up i'd watch the whole thing and all the guys came in their different uniforms you know and that was a cool thing and