 But Laura goes by Cooper here for the Cascades Gorge hike. And here's some of our conversation with Cooper. Hi, it's Cooper. Listen, here we are. We just finished hiking with you 1.8 miles. We climbed approximately 350 feet in elevation between the air and the water here in this part of the Allegheny Mountains. I'm not sure which is fresher. It's a great day. What a great hike we had with you. So thank you very much for that. We really appreciate it.