 achieve human level reasoning. What does that even mean? A chatbot? I can tell you, I avoid these chatbots because I think they're dumber than most dumb humans. And I don't mean all humans are dumb, but some of the dumb ones you get. Maybe that's the wrong word, but some of the less effective ones that you get sometimes on the phone or this or that. And imagine AI that's like Siri with an attitude, for those of you that have an iPhone. I don't know.