 Right. Those are very safe to use. I mean, anyone can use them. But if you go anything more stronger, you might be getting some of the paint out. Exactly. I was going to ask you, do you need to rough up that finish at all, like go across it with steel wool or anything like that? No, absolutely not. You just have to use a towel. That's all it is. Rolling versus a brush versus a paint pad or spraying, what do you like the most?