 um it was it was fairly i'm not gonna say easy to get a job but i knew some people and um i applied at the company i've been i've been at the company for almost 20 years now after i got out of the military and um yeah a great company and uh yeah you can do it no doubt if you have the experience no doubt about it yeah way to go man proud of you bill there's that military option again dave good work well not a bad thing a lot of people are very successful start their careers in the military some of them conclude their careers in the military