 actual interaction with Al Franken was at the 2004 Republican National Convention. Do you remember what was that, Radio Network Air America? Actually, he was freaking out on Michael Medved, jumping up and down on a chair, banging on a table. And Michael Medved was a soft-spoken radio show host for Salem. I think he still does a little bit of it. But anyway, he had this bit that he did when he was a character on Saturday Night Live. It was a character called Stuart Smalley.