 And I was looking at his numbers up here. We came up in the minor leagues together. He was in Salinas playing for the Angels, playing against the Angels. And then I forgot, in 92, we picked him up with the Detroit Tigers. He was a joy to watch play the outfield. 2-1 pitch, fouled straight back, 2-2. Well, when you've got a guy like third base coach that has that resume of...