 I can't even honestly talk about it. It's his daughter-in-law. I mean, forget the politics. I mean, this is a guy you know obviously in a far different way I do. He's your family. I mean, I just had Eric on before. It was probably the most powerful interview we did. I said, forget all this political crap for a minute. I said, that's your dad. I said, you must have looked at him with his fist in the air, bleeding from his ear. His first instinct. Keep in mind, Laura, he doesn't know the attack's over.