 So that would involve the intellectual cadre. For example, in the medieval system, the late medieval, well, 16th century, dawn of early modern England, that involved the clergy in England. And William Tyndall, my hero, of course, the best Bible translator, went out in Gloucestershire when he was puzzled by reading the Word of God and said to a parish priest when he was out on his walk, who's this beast I'm reading about in Revelation? And the priest pulled him into the manse, shut the door, looked furtively around and whispered,