 But we knew how tortured he was by the whole Celtic thing. I mean, he lost the finals to Boston six times in the 60s. To the point in 1969 with Elgin Baylor and Will Chamberlain, he had a better team. And they still lost to a fourth-place Celtics team because Russell was on his last legs, player, coach, and Emmitt Bryant and Sam Jones. And the Celtics got him in the forum in Game 7. So Wes was tortured by that. And then when he became general manager, he assembled the monster team with Kareem and Worthy and Magic.