 Just sweet corn right out of the can. I put some of that on a size one circle hook. And I use a live bait rig. That's the presentation. A Lindy rig or a Roach rig with a quarter ounce sinker. And a number one circle hook on the leader. And I cast that out and let it sink to the bottom and wait for the tug. And when they bite, they bite hard. You let them run for a little bit. You don't have to set the hook with the circle hook. You just start reeling and what a bite.