 and uh uh you know he was my hero uh i wrote for a magazine called uh planet x which was a sci-fi magazine and we interviewed bob for the magazine and we met each other and he encouraged me to be a horror host and we did a lot of live shows where bob would host uh you know it came from outer space a creature from the black lagoon or whatever and i would write material and uh and bob uh again encouraged me and said you should get out in a chair