 One of us said, I think we should have him. And the other one, we should have tears and everything. So we have this wonderful, he's now 15 years old. He has special needs. And I wouldn't change a damn thing. She makes my life perfect. Along with my older child, of course. But I also started at that time listening. Because how do you, when you're pro-choice, and then you make this decision to have this baby, and you know, this is the life we live. I started really listening to some of the pro-life arguments. And some of them, I just didn't have...