 So, I mean, he wasn't a senator or anything like that. That's what my only really impression of an interview, a great interview was, and he did a good job. Yeah, he wasn't a politician, didn't have an angle, wasn't working his way up the ranks or anything like that. No, that was cool. And, yeah, playing the Carlton Theater that he used to play back in the day before it was torn down to build the Mall of America. Yeah, he wasn't happy about that.