 I like mine a little bit dark, but you're going to have to have a cup a little bit lighter for the kiddos. They don't like all that char. My wife and I, we want the char. The crispiness. Yes. Always good. Very good. The salty goodness of it. You got it. Now, I also happen to know that you may be thinking about Sinclair Lewis days up in Sox Center. What's that one all about?