 parents for some reason it's either our schedule we're busy or we don't stop to think about how do we illuminate our kids world a little bit like you said it doesn't have to be expensive so how does a parent get into a better place to think somewhat like a child you know to think going to the dump could be fun yeah I mean by the time you're a parent you're going now that doesn't sound like fun so how does a parent maintain that kind of attitude to say oh that could be interesting if I set it up a certain way