 For those that are using obviously different types of sonar, using forward-facing sonar is a lot different than just using regular sonar. But for guides that are out fishing, I mean, and especially for people that just fish in general, sonar works absolutely just as fine as anything. In fact, it's a lot more easy and a lot more comfortable fishing with regular sonar than it would be with the LiveScope, especially if you've got a group of people that are fishing.