 And the answer is because he understands what is important, right? And that is souls. And so he is investing not in this world, not what he can get for himself, not how many hours he can work and how much money he can save, but he is investing in the world that is to come. And the only thing that we can take with us is souls. And so that is what he is doing, and that is inspiring to see. And there was another gentleman there who...