 This is the Ox, and you're listening to Hot Talk with the Ox, 320-251-1990 on the Boulder Taphouse studio or text line. Two ways to reach the program, of course. And really, for the conversation about the daily news, et cetera, we've got about 25 minutes to talk about that. Then we welcome Ray Harrington from what's left of the Boulder Taphouse undergoing some massive remodeling. Holy cow. But they are still open. Had a beer there yesterday.