 or something, I don't know. Well, I'll tell you what, probably the best thing that I've used, and I've tried all kinds of things to deter birds, and one of the best things is get a little rubber snake. It doesn't have to be inflatable. You can go to, like, you know, the kid's toy section and get a little foot-long rubber snake and just set it right on that railing, right next to that post. They're not going to bother that post again.