 remembers quite a bit, yes, number one, watching the Beatles on the Ed Sullivan show and having her father look at her with this look like, no, you're not going to be dating any four of them. So along those period of time. Rod Grams, of course, many people know Rod, of course, before he passed. Rod still would tell you the story that if that's the best England has to offer, he'd hate to see the worst, but