 So it's in the soil. It's a part of our world. We engage with it often, whether we know it or not. And so because of that, it's relatively easy for it to find its way into food systems. So it could naturally be occurring. And what we're in the business of doing when it comes to food safety is actually reducing risk. So reducing that organism, eliminating it from the foods, especially foods that we consider ready to eat. She says if.