 we're talking a political strategist john mclaughlin and jim mclaughlin jim take us inside the numbers that they're looking at in the white house and i think elsewhere in some of the reasons why these democrat power brokers are calling for a change i think it's because of the polling numbers and radical agenda aside talk to us about where joe biden is relative to kamala harris and if it's not either of them from a political viability standpoint where else would they look like is gretchen whitmer better is gavin newsom better it uh... and that's a great question and look