 and have dinner together, this is the conversation. Do you remember when? And that was so much fun when that happened. And I think that's the payoff for the parent, right? In that context, you're creating memories that last a lifetime, literally. And one of the benefits I've felt, and of course Trent and Troy are not married yet, we don't have grandchildren yet, but particularly Trent has really expressed how he wants to create those kind of environments.