 Like you said, they're going to take their abuse. A lot of pruning and stuff like that causes them to get a little thick and stuff. Okay, let's do this. Let's just let everybody know one more time. Woods Farmer's Seed and Nursery. Hours, phone number, all that kind of stuff. And the really neat thing is when you come out here, you get to see what you're going to take home and plant after it's been there for a couple of years. So it really helps make the decision.