 And that's when I really started to talk to Ed and ask him. I said, you know, Mr. Warren, do you really believe in demonic possession and all this ghostly stuff you talked about? And he looked at me, he kind of smirked. He goes, kid, I was involved in this stuff for many, many years since I was a kid. He said, let me tell you, this stuff is real. He started recounting some more stories.