 John Griffel farms with his father, Dave, near Gillespie in central Illinois, and they've been dabbling in regenerative agriculture. We've just always looked at ourselves as stewards of the land. We've implemented cover crops and highly erodible soil, and we've done it at a slow basis. We haven't moved at a quick pace because when we talk about the de-risking in the financial side, we couldn't jump in with both feet. We've been doing it over a number of years and seeing what works and what doesn't because there's a number of learning steps to go along with the way.