 Um, I would be out, you know, maybe a half hour to an hour before sunset, maybe starting at 10, 11 feet of water and follow the fish shallower is. As the night goes on after the sun is down, you can catch them in, you know, pulling shad wraps, uh, five to six feet down pretty consistently. And, and, uh, the, the folks that we've had here who are fishing late