 I know how that feels. And as I'm narrating to him what I'm seeing, I'm also telling him about himself. And this little mad dude turns around, and he literally had made me go away by putting his hands over his eyes. And I could see his hands drop down, and he was just holding them in front of his chest as he's looking at this really sad mare. And I told him, I said, you know what? My name's Kim. What's your name? He said, it's Nathan.