 Just like that, just utility, which you barely probably remember, or do you remember any of it? No, very little. Very, very little. And how did that affect you? What did your mom do to survive? How did you guys stay alive? My mom worked in the chair factories, as I mentioned earlier, that was part of the industry in that area that I lived in. And she worked in the chair factory, worked real hard, raised me and my sister. And a lot of my friends have father-son stories, and I have only one.