 dead last in baseball and hard hit rate and obviously that's not their game they're not sluggers but that's still pretty low first three months of the season 11th best ops in baseball july 28th best and same thing in the starting rotation you know you look at the monthly era in the rotation the first two months 415 502 in june 517 in july so if we can start there the guardians maybe are not as well regarded as you might think they are just based on the way they've played so far