 Exactly. No, no, Lars. And when I meet some of those people and I shake some of their hands before and after the debate, I will send them your way and let them know that you want to talk to them. I do because, look, I've got a brother-in-law who works in the trades, okay, and he has a number of coworkers. And believe me, I was getting an earful from one of his coworkers