 Nathan, can I just pause you just there for a second? Because I just want to read this. Because I've been rereading in this last week. I've been, well, actually reading. I was familiar with the content on it, but I'm actually digging into Michael Heiser's Reversing Hormone. And if anybody wants to dig this a bit deeper, this is a very, I'd say this is essential reading. But I wanted just to read his, a very short passage from his book called