 you you know you've done the backyard classes i'll have i'll do wet ribs and dry ribs and everybody loves those that grill finished rib and then i'm like all right i'm gonna go ahead and do these in competition one more time and you get that awesome 57th place finish yeah you know when you eat that you do the same thing with a brisket you're doing a butcher paper brisket thinking man i'm on this thing and then you do it you go well that backfired