 I guess that's why that'll probably be a checkmark by his name because when you hear about that particular part of his football life, you know, that was... Well, and I'm not going to make this about Chris Carter, but he can't keep a job in the media. I don't know the situation, but I'm guessing his personality comes into play. Now, Chuck, that's part of what I wanted to talk to you about today. You did something with Tommy Kramer. You overlapped...