 But honestly, I mean, it's the chance for people to observe a wild creature in its wild habitat, whether it's when he's in the water with these sharks or he's catching these sharks and putting these transmitters in them. I mean, it's just an incredible experience. I'm fortunate enough to have been working with these animals now for a long time, and that's what I took from him, from Anthony Mackie, is that he truly enjoyed this experience and was just thrilled to be getting these up-close