 He's always a great reveal or someone who can deliver the line that just kind of gives you that dum-dum-dum feeling. And that's one of the things that Donald Sutherland kind of did for me. You know, and he also kind of – when it comes to interviewing him, he has a style that's not like any other actor. It's not the easiest style to interview. I remember interviewing him for Aurora Borealis. And –