 Also, I don't know this, but this is what I study. I'm a scholar of debate, and I have been a debate coach for years and years and years. What we're talking about isn't a debate at all. It's a performance. It's fully 100% performative. So we're looking for a personality or a personhood or a kind of character that we can like. It has nothing to do with quality of arguments. It has very little to do.