 So 28 years ago, how old are you? I am 33. Yeah. So you were five when I met you. Yeah. You were five. And now here we're sitting and we're having a conversation on a podcast. That's right. How about that? I had to go to the hospital today to get my knee looked at. And so I didn't get to see Dr. Glenn, who's the orthopedic surgeon in town. And thank goodness I didn't have to. But Dr. Glenn, his first job was dairy land.