 He'd get kind of caught up into it, and maybe he was kind of new in the whole deal and didn't know how to react to it. But he did say it, and you'll hear it here in a moment. Well, if you're saying that the stuff that happened in France is hearsay, then what you're saying is that a four-star general is a liar. No, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying we don't have video of it. I didn't hear it, right? So that's all I'm saying.