 humbled himself to death on the cross if he can do that like we can it's a great point we can humble ourselves a little bit and understand it yeah hey in the book you talked about climbing mount rainier and what i really wanted to ask you is why no i'm kidding because it's there i have flown over it a few times on my way to seattle or whatever but it looks like a great mountain to look at yeah but you decided to climb it and what did you notice about the peak when you got there which way to go i'm glad you got there yeah