 and he took OKC to the playoffs. They were trying to rebuild, and Chris Paul's like, no, no, no, get out of my back, Shea Gilgis, Alexander, and whoever else was on that team at that point. We're winning a bunch of games. So I give him credit, man. He clearly loves the game, and he's clearly respected as a veteran guy that, as you said, can kind of step into an organization and make a difference with young people.