 And it's interesting because, did I expect that? No, but I always interjected the gospel into my message, regardless of people like it or not. Well, with Mike, Mike was just continuously asking me the questions over and over and over again. And so with that, Mike had said in conversation, he said, I don't like people dictating how I interpret the word. And when he had said that, I began to ponder that. And the first thing that I thought of was in 1 John 4,