 kind of pedals that a little bit. He'll try to get that position away from the number 39 driver, and he does it off four. So he started fourth in this race, and he's dropped back several spots now as he just got passed there by Riley Herbst. Watching the race leader here, Ty Gibbs, mark more 25 laps into this 45-lap run. He is already starting to tick off the back markers. He's put, it looks like...