 hear why they did it who or what they were shooting at the context is is it entirely determines whether gun violence is good or bad and if somebody's doing it in self-defense if they're doing it you know uh to protect themselves their family and so on then yes it's it's gun it's you're using a gun and it is violence but it's not a it's not a it's not a bad thing so that's yet another reason why we wouldn't call that public we'll take a quick break to hear from our sponsors don't go anywhere