 in the course of their career, including for the first time, a long-form interview originally published in WE Magazine by any other name, Bruce Dern, a memoir available University Press of Kentucky as well as Amazon.com. We've talked a little bit about your first publishing credit together. How did you first meet? And I'm sure this is the story you've told together many times. I'll say Bob's start and then Chris, you jump in as... I'll start with the seventh grade. Really? How's that? Okay.