 So Dairyland evolved into a tree business in the winter. So we would shut down when it wasn't conducive to selling ice cream cones and homemade onion rings. And we'd shift gears and sell Christmas trees for a month. And then when you shut that operation down, is that when you started going and spending some time down south in Arizona? No, no, no, no. We would shut down and we'd sell Christmas trees. And then to make ends meet through the winter, we'd help shovel roofs. We were masters of odd jobs.