text:  You know, people that know me, they know I'm drug and alcohol-free my whole life. I'm very anti-drugs and alcohol. And so it had nothing to do with hallucinogens or anything like that. I literally saw that. And I've only seen that once or twice since. Is there a difference, Cicel, between magic and witchcraft? Or is it all one and the same? Great question. So witchcraft...