text:  It was a tie. He didn't fall down. And then Trump will beat him in November. Now, I do think that the equation could change if you have a new ticket. I think it's risky for the Democrats. They've covered politics, I think, like 30 years. And I haven't seen this. I mean, how do you, first of all, say Trump's a threat to democracy, but now works to avert the will of the people, right? I don't know where I'm going with this.