text:  So more to the point, when we're talking about politics, I think a lot of times we lose the point that this is a discussion where if we don't make it transactional, we make this about relationships. It's kind of like growing a church. You talk about your two priests. When you're growing a church, it's all based on a conversation that I love you. I want to see what's good for your children. I believe we have the best message. The conservative message has always been good.