text:  And people said, what kind of crazy research is this? But Anthony Fauci responded this way. He said, yes, something like this could create a pandemic, but the knowledge is worth the risk. And that statement to this day, I think, is probably one of the most careless, arrogant and wrongheaded statements that I can imagine from somebody in public health. That the risk of a pandemic, you know, it's worth the risk to get the knowledge.