text:  And these are the people that are arguing for skimpy or no controls on gain of function. And we've got to win this debate or I believe somebody will maliciously mutate either smallpox or the Spanish flu or the avian flu. And then we're going to have something that makes COVID-19 look like a game. I mean, we're going to look like a play game compared to what can happen if one of these more deadly viruses escapes a lab.