text:  And he doesn't talk about tectonic plates. The Russians talk about it, too. And it's like Plato talked about the hall of the sphere, which is a dodecahedron. Well, I believe in Hoagland's 19.5 degrees. There's no getting around it. Oh, would you like to comment on Mr. Hoagland's 19.5? In fact, I called him when I suddenly noticed.