text:  That's the question. I mean, anybody out there who who has been defending this guy. And here's the funny thing, Jeff. And, you know, because talking to Ed Henry, there are the the you know, there are the the Van Joneses of the world. Right. Who were out there last night and other pundits who were out there last night. But at the same time, you have the diehard Biden adherents who will say, well, you know, regardless of how we did in the debate last night, the proof is in how he's governing. Is it really? Is it?