text:  it limited me to do work that I wanted to do. So I did leave it behind at one point. And I've looked into different systems. I got to meet Anton LaVey, actually, who was actually a really, really nice guy. That's what people say about him. I was just going to say that. A lot of people think otherwise. Yeah, he was a card. I mean, when you hear about him being a carny, he actually was.