text:  24 hours a day? Really? They didn't think about this. Nobody really thinks about that, right? You're just thinking about, do I have enough money? I'm going to be able to work and I'm going to be able to do all these things. And that's exactly what John said. Here's all the things I'm going to do, which mostly involved the Winnebago and golfing and camping and hiking and touring the country. And his wife is sitting there looking at me and looking at him and she's just shaking her head. And finally I said, what does retirement look like to you? And she's like,