text:  He's not going to come back from that, because that'll be indelible in people's minds. September 10th, not even going to matter. And then at the convention, as you know, with the rules, Biden can do an LBJ and say, look, I'm going to hang it up. And then I'm going to throw my delegates that I've already won to whoever the DNC thinks is a better candidate or a legitimate candidate. So I'm not dismissing it the way you are. I think that there is more to it than just an early debate, because there's always a reason in politics.