text:  like how much you trust them in what situation. So when you see the way he's deployed them, you use them a lot because he's had to because the starting pitching hasn't been as strong and you want to make sure that you don't overuse it before you get to the end of the year. So that's where that pitch count is so important. I think more for, you know, September than now. I think it's trying to not overtax that pen too much. And almost halfway through the season now, how would you describe Steven Vogt? And this is his first year as a manager for the team, right? Yeah.