text:  as you might think, and in fact, how we're really in. He changed my way of thinking. How fossil fuel is going to be here for a long, long while simply because renewable energy is really not clean. I wouldn't say at all, but really not that clean. All right, thank you very much. Appreciate you joining me today, sir. We'll definitely check out the podcast to hear that because I'm very interested. Let's take a break. You are listening to The Rob Carson Show.