text:  You know, I think they're really kind of horrible people, Mary. And look at the way they've treated their seventh is a grandchild. Maybe Joan Roberts. I mean, that, you know, she's a little orphan in terms of the Biden family, even though it is absolutely definitely the case that she's one of them. But they don't want to acknowledge her. So, you know, I think little by little and frankly, thanks to Axios that occasionally reports on this stuff.