text:  Part of their retirement now is he does do the tours. He doesn't do them anymore because he's past that age now. I guess he's got to be almost 90 at this point. But now, for 20 years, he would camp by himself or go with buddies and do some camping. He would take his wife with him sometimes. But they spent a lot of time with the daughter-in-law. And so you could find that.