text:  The conversation is going to happen. I'm sure Wes Moore is very much in the mix, and I think you're spot on, Marty, in terms of what he gives in a way that Gavin Newsom does not and cannot, and frankly, in a way that Gretchen Whitmer does not and cannot. So listen, I'm going to let you go there. Marty, please stay safe out there, my friend. Okay, one thing, he can't lose either because he's still governor even if he loses the elections.