text:  That's the big problem. We mentioned Stephen Furtick, I think it was last week's show, the guy in North Carolina. Big mega church, right? Hugely impactful in a worldly sense. He has a huge amount of influence on, unfortunately, on people and pastors and churches. But he's not growing the kingdom. In fact, we'd be better off without him, without those pretenders. And the people that want to have their ears tickled and they want to come to a church and have the pastor say to them what it is they want to hear...