 kate let's look at it in context in um 20 i just told you it in context what he means 19 there was almost a 100 increase in the number of encounters over 2018. that was the trend not only at the southern border of the united states i just showed the chart and he's right but then it went down to 400 it was cut in half again by 2020. so he's just lying if you're going to put it in context