 and the team they're not in a place of one of them has something to lose and that's one of the things that Mueller points out right out of the start he says teams tend to hunker down on their position based on facts that might make sense only to them a player in his representation will almost always make their case based on a different set of facts and when timing in this case it's not it's not of the essence it's easy to ask for the moon until one side has something to lose