 These phrases that he really uses as filler when he has nothing really to say and he's thinking about what he's going to say next, you'll see a ton of that tonight. So, you know, I don't expect this to be knockout blow for either side, nothing even close to it. I'm with you. I think that people will come away from this. Both sides will declare victory. And it does raise for me, you know, do presidential debates matter? I mean, look, the governor of Arizona, Katie Hobbs,