 he's talking to his spotter, Stevie Reeves, and he's like, where are they running? And he's like, okay, the first lane is above the apron. Let's just call the apron lane zero. He's like, tell me if they're running in lane zero, one, two, three, four, all the way up. And it's just like, that's a discussion you never have with your spotter in normal situations. But was it Larson really made a lot of ground on the apron and some others did it until it started drying up and everybody had to move up or move around? And again...