 13 picks. And we were in a production meeting for the upcoming season. We were ranking the quarterbacks. And I had Aaron Rodgers, I think, in front of, I think it was Carson Palmer at the time. And nobody in the room could believe it. So I saw the talent immediately. And the fact that it hasn't manifested itself in not only more Super Bowl wins, but even more Super Bowl appearances. I could even take the Jim Kelly where he got there a bunch and just could win the game. But