 there was a series of Black Hawk helicopters at roughly the same altitude, rather low, and they were spaced at even intervals. And you could see them very plainly through the night vision sets. And she starts counting them out loud. She's going, one, two, three. And she stopped counting at 17. So we're looking at 17 Black Hawk helicopters above the desert. And as she finished counting, Melinda said, that's nothing, that's nothing. There were more than that here the other night.