 president ceo of any chamber of commerce i don't care where you are uh it can be a rat race sometimes you know trying to keep up with it all certainly my privilege to be here in salina because all of the challenges that and all of the busyness that we have right now is just really good and positive and so it's just a lot of fun honestly to be able to do what i do and to be able to support our community and work with the people that i get to work with and so i i do enjoy it a great deal