 No doubt. And you wonder if they finally just have to say, give up. We're just going to have to pit. There's just no denying our situation. I don't know if you do, Mark. It's like I think Brett McMillan was saying a moment ago that, hey, we're just going to run you out of gas because if we know we come in, we're done. So let's give it a shot and hold our breath. Let's go down now to Brad Gillies.