 And I mean, I'm not going to go reiterate all the things I talked about the other day in terms of what I thought he ought to do if he wants to win the debate. But if he does that, if he can put his ego aside to a degree, or even if the rules just simply help him do that by people not being able to hear him interrupt and all that other stuff, and he just lets Biden talk, Biden could very well bury himself. But we'll see.