 at the press conference afterwards i did talk to chase and i did ask him i was like you know what's the difference in you're going to a championship car now um look i know you're trying to do everything you can to get in the playoffs here with the stewart house but you're going into a championship car joe gibbs racing what kind of how do things have to be different and i thought his answer was was really interesting he said he goes i definitely think you have to win and he and and