 And given the experience they had four years ago, it's a head scratcher to me that they went so out of their way to try to create an environment that will make Trump seem more presidential. I mean, he hates him. He hates Trump as much as Jay Tapper does. But he's right on this. Oh, I think he is right. And it's hard for me to admit that Chuck Todd would ever be right about something because normally he isn't. But in this case, he is. And let me affirm.