 Very interesting. They both had charm, too. There was classic charm. I don't even know how to define that, except it is a personal attribute that reaches across that podium and out into the audience. Yeah, charisma. They both are incredibly charismatic. And it's not clear what charisma is. It certainly is a high-energy style. But what we think is that charisma is kind of an empathic understanding of the audience.