 still in their 20s, mid to late 20s. McCullers, 23. I just kind of like that setup. Again, I don't really know how it's going to work from a playing time standpoint, but obviously the Knicks saw something that they like in him, and if nothing else, he can be a depth piece for them. Yeah, he can certainly be a depth piece, and I think that's how he's going to start out, but at the same time, we know Tom Thibodeau doesn't like to dip into that depth. So, look, if they use, and I'm not saying they will, but if they use McCullers as a bargaining chip,