 And they've been researching ever since. And I'm telling you, he wore me out when we were out there hiking around. I was like, I've got to stop. He just kept going. He kept going. But his goal for understanding that this world has more mystery, more of the unexplained than what is known or measured in the world of science. And by the way, you know, one of the things he likes to say is where science leaves off, our hearts and senses take over. I agree. And sometimes this opens up.