 You know, was he 18, 19? There was an article by Tom Haberstroh, who we had on the show last week. I worked with him at the old network, great reporter. And he talked about how the Suns' legacies, right, the Seth Curry. We didn't even talk about Steph and Del Curry, because Steph obviously was just ultra-talented. But Seth Curry, who had to really fight to get in the league,