 People beforehand thought Johnny was going to be a good fit. That was a team looking for shooting. And who knows? The other thing about the Pacers is they've got some KU connections in their front office. So you mentioned Tyler Self. I don't believe he's with the Spurs anymore. But in regards to the Pacers, they obviously have had a very, very successful franchise for a long time. And we'll see if Johnny can be an impactful guy.