 And Tom Thibodeau, who doesn't take players out. That doesn't necessarily, like you said, bode well for playing time for McCuller, who plays a wing position as well. But no one knows the Knicks as well as the Knicks. And the Knicks chose to take McCuller. True. So I'm sure they didn't do that thinking he was going to be a 20-24 minute a game guy right away. But...