 Yeah, if we're paying a trillion dollars on interest alone, I mean, I look at that and kind of relate to a personal budget. If I'm paying more interest than I am on a principal at all and I'm not getting anywhere, then what's the point of even doing it? Like, there's no way that we can sustain a level like that. Then you look at the entire budget, and obviously you know this, the difference between our mandatory spending and our discretionary spending.