 We've got never Trumpers out there say, no, we still say that he's a threat to democracy. You got Biden already back to Trump is a threat to democracy. That's not tamping it down. Joe Biden has just told Lester Holtz that he doesn't engage in that type of rhetoric. That's not something that he does. He doesn't engage in that rhetoric. What are you talking about? Why would you, why would you ever accuse me of engaging that rhetoric? I don't engage in that rhetoric. That's what he said. Here, keep my audio for me. Let me just play it for you. This is a part of that Lester Holtz interview from NBC.