 And there has been progress made in recent years, but for many people, that's still not enough, especially in an era of persistently high inflation, high housing prices, etc. So the unemployment rate is still under 4%. Historically, that's a pretty good number. So why? And is this so? What's the economic reason? Or is it an expectation reason for what the Teamsters president talked about, which is that even though the unemployment level is low, Americans can't win, as he put it.