 black and white TV set, watching that grainy picture with the rabbit ear antennas of the Mission Control Center as the scene unfolded and listening to the transmissions coming back from the moon as Eagle approached the surface and then actually touched down. And I remember going out later and looking up at the moon and realizing that up there almost a quarter of a million miles away, these two astronauts were getting ready to take those first steps. And I thought, you know what? I want to be like those guys. And that's when the dream started for me to wanting to try to become an astronaut myself.