 Well, they've had a really pretty solid income for most of their lives, making a couple hundred thousand dollars a year. So their CPA always said, just put it in the traditional, defer those taxes in the future. Well, what we're going to be working on now is unwinding a lot of that. We have to do some work today. Otherwise, they're going to pay a lot more in taxes than they actually need to in the future. So even the next 12 months is a really big timeframe from them tax-wise.