 do their thing, right? Which is the worship, the long sermon, right? The altar call at the end. And the kids really weren't ever a part of that. And so I remember one night I came home from work and my kids were playing church, which they love to do. And they're playing church looked like American Idol. You know, they thought that church was their parents up on stage, rocking out on the guitar or singing on the keys. And I think that was probably the first moment where I realized there might be something wrong with this model.