 But he was happy. It's the challenge of things not going the way your plan, being surrendered to God's plan. And that witness of that non-Catholic couple and their seven children still, when there's love and there's communion, there's always room for one more. And that beauty, that witness to life and witness to faith that existed was so incredible. And that's the thing that I love about my journey is that I didn't give up anything for my non-Catholic past.