 dan a hundred forty eight yard shot i know my wife can make that a hundred forty a charity qualified in the secret service when i was there handgun we took five shots at a hundred with the handgun you don't see much the front sight blocks everything out you know you're lucky to hit the target unless you're really good this with a handgun dude it's only with a two two three five five so you don't even need a school you can iron sight that i mean that's just insane and we didn't book if we were iron sighting with five five hundred meters and no problem no problem i mean it's really disgusting