 if she were to put the other members of the council on the witness stand and say, have you ever taken a city document home with you, you know, to study it or to mark it up or amend it or whatever, that they would all be guilty of the same crime and they weren't punished. Wouldn't that be the way to show it? Well, that could be a way of showing it, but, of course, if you have somebody on the stand, they're more likely to say, well, my Fifth Amendment, I don't have to incriminate myself, and I'm not going to answer that question.