 Same hillbilly town in Kentucky. They both came to Indiana and Ohio at the same time. Same working class, blue collar background. I think both of us, I mean, J.D. Vance wrote the book and became famous. It wasn't a political book, but it explained a lot about people like his family and my family, the forgotten people of America that Washington had completely ignored for years. And it made J.D. famous, but he wasn't a politician. He wasn't a political figure.