 and I was like, that's great. And I remember recording every single one of them. So Protestants are really good about separating Catholicism from Christianity. So if Chesterton came up and he said anything about Catholicism, or even if you're watching EWTN and you saw something that looked a little funky, you were really good about kind of compartmentalizing that and just grabbing the nuggets that you wanted to. But I joined the Chesterton Society and the first Chesterton magazine came to my house and it was full of Catholic stuff.