 Yes, and this is a play for Pennsylvania in a lot of ways, which both campaigns think will be the decisive state. And it's next door to Vance's home state. And a profile of voter that Trump is betting he can help win over. Isaac Arnsdorf, Shelby Talcott with me here on the convention area. Thank you so very much. We're going to take a quick break. But before we do that, he's one of Donald Trump's fiercest critics in the Republican Party.