 Did Barack Obama and Victoria Nuland push that Maidan revolution a particular direction? Well, they didn't tell me that. Well, first of all, if they did, it's about the only thing that I can say that Obama did right. But I will say this. It is in the American national interest for Ukraine to become a westernized country. For that matter, it's in the American national interest for Russia to become a westernized country. And sooner or later,