 Regardless of what is racing out there. Heck, you could have vintage cars doing their series out there, and you don't get anybody out for those, but still, it's really cool to just see cars at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. But you couldn't really sell the diehard fans, and you couldn't sell the drivers either. Denny Hamlin was one of the most outspoken drivers who said, we need to be on the oval. We talked to Tyler Reddick last week on the show.