 Right. So you cited some turnover data in your story, too. That's right. So if you look at just figures on voluntary turnover, that's people just leaving of their own volition. That's down from just a couple of years ago near 17 percent, now closer to 12, 13 percent. So that's fallen. We've also seen companies also track something that they call regrettable attrition. Those are the high performers that they'd rather keep down.