 bubbly, I'm going to say bubbly personality and her just charming demeanor, she would have like the Pied Piper, she'd be leading people over there to help us put it together. And it yielded a lot of good. But when it shut down and she proposed that we do something at the sites, I was reluctant. I didn't want to do it. I said, in front of Keys to Hope on the side, the beautiful front yard of Grace Learning Center and a side yard of Sandcastle,