 I guess, surrogate, talking head, whatever, who's kind of pushing back, if you will, on another perspective than what Carvel has. But Carvel is, again, I think right here. But anyway, we'll get to that in a moment. I want to remind you, though, my friends, if you are a smoker, if you're currently using nicotine-based products, whether that's smoking, vaping, chewing tobacco, Knick Knack Naturals are here to help you crush your vice.