 just to kind of get a feel for what he thinks will be going on with the Brickyard 400 and, of course, the Pennzoil 250, which will be the Xfinity race on Saturday. But when I watched Cup Series race earlier today, this was about 3 o'clock in the afternoon here, so Eastern Time, it's a brand-new car, it's a brand-new tire, it's a brand-new makeup, and quite honestly, it's pretty much a brand-new track for these drivers.