 Right, but does the porcelain hold up? It doesn't hold up like stands do. Again, there's the quality within that. Right. Do you use dollars and cents to figure out the quality? No, not necessarily. You need to ask questions. Like, for example, a lot of people are concerned with porcelain sinks because is it going to stain? Is it going to chip? If I drop a pan, is it going to chip the porcelain? Some will.