 And Robert, we're also hearing that the former president just posted on social media that he had a very good phone call earlier today with Ukraine's president, President Zelensky. This is significant, isn't it? This is potentially a significant exchange. Trump has long been wary of U.S. involvement in Ukraine, and President Biden has made it a keystone of his record. If Trump starts to build a rapport with Zelensky, it could quiet some concerns among traditional Republican voters and others and some lawmakers about that Trump-Vance view of the world.