 So when you get advice from people that are in a storm, that's taking a risk. Taking advice from people that are on the other side of it, even though there's a lot of people that say, no, I want somebody that's in the middle of it. I want somebody at my level. Well, that's the secret to staying stuck where you are. So getting it from somebody that's through it and on the other side is actually the best thing to do.