 And the impact of the verbal work of Mike and the silent work of Anton were so absolute. And the integrity that both had of letting their yes be yes and no be no and striving for that excellence really began to encourage me. But Mike didn't stop there. He went one step further and invited me to come to Mass with he and his family. And so I go to the Catholic Church with Mike and his family, and I see one of the smartest engineering minds I know. And he's like MIT smart, kneeling before Jesus in the Eucharist.