 But Doug said to me, he said, you know, this was nothing like I expected. You treated me in a very, he said, Christ-like way, which is music to my ears. I never told him I was going to do that. I treated him, I think, just well, respected him, even though I thought half of what he was saying was crazy and wrong. I didn't just jump in and argue with him. I listened to him. I would occasionally, very occasionally, not much, push back.