 But that's interesting in and of itself. If you think, and I remember watching Mitt Romney, and he did. He outperformed Obama in that first debate back in 2012. No doubt about it. He came out. I don't think Obama was ready for him. I don't know if Obama was taking him seriously. I don't know what was going on there. But Mitt Romney dominated in that first debate. However, if someone thinks, if they said Romney beat Obama,