 What we needed to see, like he said, on this tiny little phone shaking screen, you know? And our hearts were in the right place, right? Because we were ready to receive something like that. And it was so different than what we had seen up to that point. It was complex, but it was so simple. A perfect paradox for a Chesterton conversation. But it was that thing that I think, and the conversion of a lot of those stories that Val was just saying, you know, with our son saying,