 experience experience she's been she's been the president and she's created if if you're right actually i think it's barack obama that's running the country through joe biden and not jill biden but even if you're right has she done a good job i think the easy answer to that is no back in a moment you're listening to the lars larson show this is mnc nation your new home for lars larson on 1019 fm and 1340 am and mnc nation station