 with josh mcpherson uh you need to follow him uh pastor josh mcpherson you can follow him on instagram uh at pastor josh mcpherson his website is gracecitychurch.com i think this man is i think he's the real deal uh and i've been i've been looking for pastors like this and i found many of them uh this guy i just for some reason really connect with uh we'll continue our conversation here in just a second