 But it's really more about all those lessons that you learn along with it that I think are so valuable. My guest is Jean Ann Roberts, and she's written a book called It's Never Too Late to Find Your Crown. It's not just for women, ladies. It's for anyone. It's for anyone because she gives these beautiful, beautiful chapters, short chapters, each one with a little nugget, a golden nugget of just what she went through, true life stuff that truly made her