 And if you noticed him standing on stage next to Dr. Jill Biden, who did most of the talking, he stood there with his mouth hanging open like he didn't really know what was going on. Somebody just told him he had to be there. Stilgar, thanks for the call. If you want to join what we call the best conversation in talk journalism, it's always right here at 866. Hey, Lars, that's 866-439-5277. If you're a naysayer, we'll put you right to the head of the line. We've always done it. We always will.