 and he accompanied Katie Vance when he made his four runs a little while ago. Big bear hug. Big bear hug. He was holding him and asked him straight up, like, what do you think, how will this impact the race? And he said, listen, I think that he thinks that he can have an impact on those rust belts that we talked about earlier, those states of Michigan, Pennsylvania, and, of course, here, Wisconsin, where they feel there's that blue-collar, working-class base voter that they feel they can pull into the Republican column and help them win.