 And there's a couple of categories. One is that I've been coming to the Catholic church my whole life. But my friend invites me to their Bible church and I go into their Bible church and I encounter Christ for the first time. Right. I open up the word of God and it comes alive. That there is this encounter and there's a community and there's a fervor and there is a life. And that's why I left Catholicism to go over here.