 How how does that how does he figure because this is horrifying to hear, but it's true. How did that how did he figure into that? Yeah. So Mike Pence, Mike Pence was brought into the Trump circle as a, you know, as a key establishment figure, you know, long in the tooth political guy tied directly to the Republican establishment in Washington, D.C. You know, had been a congressman, had been a governor, you know, was it was the you know, the quote unquote.