 to prove that he's competent. Listen to this exchange. I mean, this is crazy. This is four months from election day. ...get beyond that dismal debate performance. One of the options right now is that he would sit for a high-profile interview to try and show that that North Carolina rally the day after the debate was not just a one-off, that he actually can do a sit-down interview, he can do a spontaneous interview. But the fact that we're even having this conversation...