 the people that would be with them when they got removed, whether it was the FCM or others that are helping them, would try to do what they can to minimize that trauma, right? Like, okay, let's go get something to eat. Let's go to the park. But at the end of the day, they have to find them a foster placement. So they still have to get to the office. They're trying to watch kids while they're trying to get a good foster placement for them. And now imagine that it's not just one child, but it's siblings. And that's not even easy to get the same place. So now you're not only dealing with