 Depending on who you are, I guess. What do you think, Christine? Are you a material girl? I'm not. I'm just blown away at curls. I can surprise you once in a while. Oh, he's surprising. All right. So she was a material girl. Madonna. Well, I don't know. Well, she says she doesn't like that term. So I don't know if she is or she isn't. I'm up one, Christine. All right. All right, Carl. Here we go. All right.