 And so I just sort of kept track of all this. And finally, I annoyed him and he hung up on me, which I considered a small victory. But again, we shouldn't be trying to outsmart the scammers. We're speaking with Heather Kelly, Czech reporter at The Washington Post. Her story is called Sick of Scams. Stop answering your phone. One way to help yourself, too, as you pointed out, is like there are settings within the settings of your phone where you can turn off or send directly to voicemail.