 Sat me down. First question was, what do you know about Chesty Poehler? And the answer was nothing. I'm a civilian. All right. After Harvard and after Richard Nixon, I went to New York with Nixon and he moved there in spring of 1980. And I went with him and I lived there from March until August. And I went in and saw the former president said, I cannot do this anymore. I do not like New York City. I can't afford it. And he said, fine, go to law school. You need to go to law school anyway. So I went to Michigan, went to Michigan Law School, did well.