 what about the free market system i mean they're on their own but but so even in the free market you're you know we had the you know we had the the bailouts and what was that 20 years ago now almost or whatever it was that we had to bail out yeah and nine or something again so it's like almost 20 years ago we bailed them out some of them some of them took it some of them didn't i think most of them repaid it i don't think they forgave it yeah ford didn't take any but again