 Now it's time for Measure Twice. Hello, welcome back to Measure Twice. Welcome back. Welcome to Measure Twice. I'm Rob Perugini, along with Chris Kramer from C. Kramer Interiors and Joel Graber from Graber Custom Remodeling. This is the show that helps you envision your home's potential. And you're listening to us on Machinist News Talk 95.3 MNC.