 where my dad said, well, me and your mom have decided to become Catholic. And imagine that you had any clue that. No, not at all. So I'm living in California. They were living in France at the time because they had moved from the Ivory Coast to France. So he just called and said, we're going to go enter the Catholic Church and imagine that somebody you love and respect and cherish goes off and joins ISIS. It would not have been any different for us.