 And so Tony Katz, syndicated radio host from WIBC in Indianapolis, he's a friend of mine. Tony and I have been friends for years. And so I was listening to his show over the weekend because he has the Eat, Drink, and Smoke podcast, which is fantastic, by the way. You should definitely listen to it. And Tony Katz is like one of the nicest human beings on earth, and I'm not. So we're kind of oil and water, and it's really funny. And he's doing this. And Fingers Malloy is also really cool.