 Well, that's still the foundation of my conversion today. I've never forgotten that. And to be able to be a preacher, to tell the story over and over again, is this constant reminder to how am I right now in my state in life, today where I am, how am I letting my yes be yes and no be no? Because the temptation to self-censor in our culture, the temptation not to preach the hard truths,