 or at least have a productive conversation with. He also said that because of his bio, his life story, the fact that he had family members who dealt with addiction and substance abuse, something that with the opioid epidemic, it's something that they think he can relate with a lot of people. That story can relate with a lot of people, which I thought was interesting. I also asked the major, I was like, who are you going to replace him with? He's like, I don't know yet, is what he said.