 That's really interesting. We have run out of time, but I feel like Kevin and Joel, that's something that we definitely do have to discuss is the platform that has been unveiled and Project 2025. We'll have those conversations. Thank you so much, gentlemen. Thank you. All right. So the family of a black man who died after being pinned to the ground by security officers in Milwaukee is calling for criminal charges ahead. We're going to talk to a witness who took video of the aftermath. So stay with us for that conversation.