 He'll be a terrific vice president. I mean, he is forceful. He's effective. Of course, he's conservative. If you know his history from reading, as I have, Hillbilly Elegy, before he got to the Senate, I said, this guy's going to be good from day one, and he has been because nobody, I think, can articulate the pain that the American families have been through over the last four years better than he can from his upbringing and then his time as a Marine and now as a young father of young children. It's interesting in terms of being from Ohio. I think...