 So, yeah, he was a powerful teacher. It wasn't in a class, actually, sort of a workshop. But he had set chairs around the room where we were meeting and imagined the people that were sitting in them. So, Barbara, can you recall your earliest memory of God? I think it was, I grew up on a farm. You may remember that. Yes, I do. Because I've talked about that a lot. And you and I are both Midwesterners, so yes. Oh, yeah.