 you know she's been an effective messenger for him in private she's told uh democratic governors when she and the president met with them last week that this is about you know this is about saving democracy she was an expletive that i won't reiterate on air um she's been very passionate in defending the president essentially saying she's with him um and she stands behind him but uh there is she's the most natural i think replacement if he were to step down um not just because she already is on the ticket