 But it wasn't. So then they go to Morning Joe, Mika Brzezinski. That was relatively, I mean, I played some of it. But again, I mean, it wasn't, nothing has been as bad as the debate. So he did that. And then he goes to this big boy, the big boy press conference. But I still find myself thinking, what do they think they're going to achieve by doing this? All they're doing now is giving the opponents, his political opponents, which are in his party right now,