 and continues to this day to maintain that he didn't do it in spite of we, like he said, it was the chair. The problem is, is that your face, you know, makes a look when, when you're forcing something out of the back end. So if, if he hadn't, you know, done the, if he hadn't done that thing, then we could probably say, well, maybe it's a chair, but he did the, and he like changed a little darker shade of red when he was pushing out. Eyes got a little bit watery, you know, all over TV. So we know that he did it, but he won't own it.