 The beef and pork with that snap from the natural casing. We tried them on a grill. We tried them in an air fryer. We did the taste test. So you don't have to, even though you should. If you didn't catch it, be sure to get the podcast and look for the videos at eateringsmokeshow.com. They will be available right there. What goes with a pound of hot dogs, which we basically ate, is a beer.