 known as b-boy london they came up with many of the sport's original moves in the bronx back in the late 70s and early 80s he had a hole in his half roll i did that's but wait so were you you weren't putting any cardboard down at this point yet breaking was developed on concrete it's kind of like you know for example you start a job and you hope you get promoted so you start with concrete now we got promoted to cardboard and then we got promoted over to lolonium