text:  in terms of the way he governed. I think we need to have somebody new, somebody fresh, and new ideas. Let's bring new ideas to the table, because you're just not going to get that from Biden or Trump, and it would make for a more interesting debate. I hope ABC is listening, because if they want to have a better debate with higher ratings, they need to invite folks like me, Robert Kennedy, Jill Stein. Let's make this debate actually substantive instead of two old farts yelling at each other. Yeah, I mean, that's true. I mean, the biggest disappointment was not just the fact that Joe Biden was old or looked old. He looked empty.