text:  I'll be very curious to see how they view that. And I mentioned Jairus because I think that's the other factor, right? If they let Obi Watson, they even want to sign somebody with the mid-level where they would just rather have Jairus Walker be their backup for next year. Tony, this whole run it back philosophy for the Pacers, as you know, since he was drafted really since his NCAA tournament action with Arizona, I have been outside of maybe Kevin Bowen, one of the biggest proponents and supporters of Benedict Mather. And I'm