text:  Uh, one of them has, so my wife has an older one that's about 17, 18,000 and I have one that's currently about 10 or 11. Okay. Um, okay. What else? What other debt do you have? That's it though. We sold our house. We just rent. Oh gosh. So it was like that. Did you sell your house because it was a drain on you or because of another reason? It was, we got, I, I ended up getting like this, uh, some kind of loan where the