text:  And I thought he was talking about the chef. I said, no, I don't need to know how to cook. He said, no, not Gordon Ramsey, Dave Ramsey. And he just kind of gave me some insight. I Googled it, and there's like 20 books, and I didn't know where to start. And there was a phone number, so I called it, and someone answered. James picked up? I'm just kidding. Someone answered.