text:  If I'm being brutally honest, when she was a Notre Dame law professor, she never had a particularly impressive slew of scholarship. I can't think of anything that she contributed to the legal scholarship that stood out, to be honest with you. She was a somewhat unimpressive academic. I think she became something of a folk hero, Jesse, because of that exchange that she had with the late Dianne Feinstein, where Dianne Feinstein famously said, the dogma lives loudly within you.