text:  Back in 1997, I went to a coaching program in Chicago called the Strategic Coach Program. And one day a quarter, we would go into Chicago and we would get coached. And it was a coaching program for entrepreneurs. And I met a pretty amazing group of people in that coaching program. And Rob and Larry and Jeff, who's not here. We've had Jeff on the show. We have had Jeff on the show, but he's not in the studio today.