text:  And and of course, Trump could have been worse, but he wasn't. But he still came off looking like a caricature of himself. We certainly are, like you said, the least of two evils. But let's say this evil is evil, no matter if it's the least or the best. And I would say that, you know, we need to wise up to this or it's going to be, like I say, a threat to democracy. And it's not about who is the threat to democracy is about how the system is becoming a threat to democracy.