text:  Then when you get to the Obama years, it was the first time they started interviewing generals to take higher positions, people to be general officers. It was the first time the White House was involved in that. That used to be the chiefs of staff, the four stars, and the defense secretaries would do that. It became political. And we saw that. Listen, you heard President Trump talk about General Milley. It was the same way. This guy was incompetent. And we knew this from years before. And that...