text:  And that's when I left to go to Fox News. And here we are all these years later, and I'm still at it. So I think that's probably the real miracle. By the way, you guys remember guys like Hosea Williams and guys like Joe Lowry? I mean, I love those guys. They were great. The fact that I got to know, I learned history from those guys. Yeah, I used to do TV with Joe Lowry on the 11 Alive, the NBC station here, and knew Hosea forever. So, yeah, they were great civil rights leaders. Unfortunately, we've lost that type of leadership these days.