text:  for the Indiana Pacers in kind of a run it back mode to talk about all that and more. He is Tony East. He covers the Pacers for Sports Illustrated. Of course, you can hear him as well on the Locked on Pacers podcast. Just search Locked on Pacers wherever you get your podcast. Tony, thanks as always for making the time for us. Great to hear from you as well and your standpoint with the Pacers. We had discussed it.