text:  backpack down into sycamore canyon but you you can't leave your car up there you're absolutely right the last time we went in there we went we took a jeep it took us four hours to get in there and we passed no one else except uh seven other vehicles and those seven vehicles were government vehicles with the government prefix plates the people inside them had military haircuts and just stared at us and so we we waved at them uh didn't go any we only went about four hours in and there's a particular area that we stay away from