text:  that's involved than writing. And so when he was explaining this and then opening some scripture that pointed to, this is exactly what Peter's talking about here and Paul's talking about here. It's like a veil, a light bulb went off and it was like a veil that fell off of my eyes. I really, in that moment, I could accept that scripture alone is not scriptural and it's not historical. And that was probably the thing that everything hung on.