text:  Um, Trump in that moment answers what was sort of became a very, it became a sort of defining moment of the campaign when Trump said, you know, Proud Boys, well, stand back and stand by. Um, so didn't, wasn't able or wasn't ready to denounce that group. Um, they also later played a really interesting role and they were, some of their leaders were part of that January 6th, um, attack on the Capitol. So you really, you know, watching the debates