text:  makes sense to me. I want to know if it makes sense to the court. And I'd love to hear the court's interpretation of it. So I'm glad that she's entertaining that. Of course, Judge Shira Shindlin. Now, some of you may not be familiar with Shira Shindlin, but I can't forget her. A couple of nights ago, we had Curtis Sliba on, right? And he was talking about the John Gotti trial. When John Gotti was on trial in New York, John Gotti...