text:  Oh, yeah. For real? Oh, yeah. I mean, I was born and bred into that, so it's easy for me to think in terms of having to be good, but that's where I come back to the cross and grace, and it's not me. I mean, it has nothing to do with me. Yeah. When you got to this point, you're the publisher of this magazine, and the magazine's done well, praise God. Mm-hmm.