text:  get the oil and gas out from underneath our ground and sell it, and use that to buy down a big part of our national debt. That's a triple whammy, Glenn. First of all, you've increased the supply of energy. That brings down costs, brings down inflation. It delivers economic growth. And even more importantly, that is a way that without touching Social Security, Medicare, or raising taxes, you can actually buy down our national debt, which then brings down the interest costs of those payments.