text:  They're trying to figure out, like, how do you, like, get rid of Joe Biden, but then don't totally get rid of him in case he stays? And Bill Kristol, who I don't agree with a lot, did say this. It was interesting. Listen. I think we can classify as a never Trump Republican, maybe still Republican, but never Trumper. Never Trump ex-Republican. Who strongly had endorsed, said you would support Joe Biden. This debate has changed your mind. Why?