text:  it just developed over the years. And then after I had my last son back in 1989, I, that was, uh, the advent of the, remember the 800 numbers people would call for the, or the 900 numbers for psychics. Yes. I was just looking to do something like, you know, cause I did it privately, but I really got tired of people coming to my house because I had three small kids and it, it wasn't working, you know?