text:  They're fairly young. And I think they're kind of firebrands. And I don't know if that's the personality that you want. In fact, I was just saying it wouldn't hurt my feelings. We saw Jim Jordan on the TV. I don't think you'd ever pick Jim Jordan because he's a firebrand. Yes. There's already enough firebrand with Donald Trump on the ticket. I think you need a grounding personality. Right.