text:  There's a chance that Joe Biden, they could say, let's just try to get him elected, get across the finish line, let's try to do this thing, and then after we elect him, we'll force him to step down, or the family may say, we'll step down. Now, whether you believe them or not, that's a different conversation, okay? Whether you believe them or not, very, very, very, very, very, very different conversation. You may not believe them.