text:  and i didn't want to be in the i wanted to reach my friend group and i want to reach my city and i was more comfortable doing that probably just how i grew up we had a ministry outside the four walls of the church so um at 20 i started a small group and that turned into it blowing up and that my parents said hey man we can't have 30 kids over here every day at our house you need to figure something out so at 22 i started a non-profit