text:  He joined me in my podcast to discuss how they are helping to end this absolute assault on people, this just demonic, demonic thing, which he thinks begins all too often in the attitudes in the hallways of junior high. You can get this whole interview. Just go to the ToddHermanShow.com or just look for the Todd Herman Show on any audio podcasting platform. This is part of my discussion with Caleb Altemeier, founder and CEO of HelpingCaptives.org.