text:  How that conversation went, right? I'm wondering, what did it look like? Was that the way it went down? Are the Democrats trying to push him out? I would say yes, of course. It makes all the sense in the world that some faction of them is trying to get him out of there. I think the bigger question is, will it work? Will it work? And do they, A, say, all right, look, we're never going to get a candidate in, so let's push the person we want to run next time, 2028, and start cutting deals with the Republicans.