text:  make sure you go and get that we're going to talk to her at the bottom of the hour about all the the debate prep that's happening about biden versus trump about the gag orders and the lawfare that's been happening we it's a good long conversation make sure you stick around for the bottom of the arrow we're going to get to all that and then some um the the whole lead up to the debate is interesting and i don't remember it being like this before i mean i remember being like this but not to this level you've got people on both sides