text:  And I like collagen for that. Also, I like it because I don't have time to work out as often as I used to. But I find that as long as I take collagen, I'm able to keep my muscle tone with just a minimal amount of working out. Very good. Very good. Talking with our good friend Carla today for the Vim of Vim and Vigor. And I want to pass on the website again. It's vimandvigor.com. And I want to spell that out for you because it's all spelled out just as you hear it. V as in Victor, I-M as in Mary.