text:  Public, by the way, who nominated Joe Biden, who decided to nominate Joe Biden, selecting who the nominee is. And then after that process, somebody is spit out of that process. And a lot of people are angry. They're disappointed. Maybe they don't like who the person is. And then you have a person who is untested, even if they're great and they have enormous potential, which we have a lot of 2028 Democrats who do, who's untested with low name ID and a party that's divided and upset. That's the potential outcome of an open convention.