text:  How do we get both sides to the table? The outlines of what that looks like, we'll see. But he has openly said he will, he'll tell Zelensky, look, you got to go to the table. We can't, this isn't just a blank check forever. And he'll tell Putin, you got to go to the table or I'm going to put your economy on life support. And so, look, I think that's a fair, I think that's a fair approach. And then the debate is what are the outlines of the agreement?