text:  books, reading books, reading stuff. I just don't have time to listen to so many of the other hosts, and I know they're very good ones. Ben Gino really is a gem. I was listening to him the other day in the car, 10, 12 minutes, whatever it was, and you know what? That 10, 12 minutes, they were really great. And I'm just honored that he's my friend.