text:  you know, divorce is acceptable. And if a woman cheats, divorce is acceptable. And she kind of mocked me for saying that, no, I really don't think there's any excuse for divorce. And she mocked me as being too soft on women or something. But I'll defend the men just as much as I'll defend the women. And because really, I'm not defending a man or a woman. I'm defending the institution of marriage, which is a natural institution and in my view, a sacramental institution.