text:  He didn't just say that. Interesting. Thank you for having me on. It's interesting because in this audio clip, we have an intersection of two of the things that matter most to Donald Trump. Fame, which Taylor Swift is one of the most famous people on the planet, and his perception of beauty. And I think even Donald Trump knows that Taylor Swift is so famous that he can't go up against her, even though she didn't endorse him in 2020. And so you hear him kind of trying to negotiate what to say about her. And later on in the clip, I even ask if he's familiar with Taylor's music, and he says no.