text:  You know, that friend invited the builder out who told him, you know, to put together all the design and the details and the permit applications and copies of everything and all the pre-built paperwork. You know, if he did just that, if he used his expertise as a builder and helped this other guy out just by putting all that together, all the plans, all the paperwork, everything that he's going to need to know, he was going to charge him $5,000 for that.