text:  push back as hard as he did. First of all, the narrative of there were good people on both sides. That has been so thoroughly debunked. But I don't know, actually, if Joe Biden knows it's been debunked. I don't know if he's retained that information, that that's not true. You do hear it a little bit here and there. But for the most part, nobody's really trying to make that point in the media anymore because after a tremendous amount of work,