text:  He clearly knew and they knew that he was going to go on TV and say that they wanted him to. But then we go back to just the overall train wreck. It didn't stop. So what I played for you and I timestamp this because I think it's important. Was it about 1038 right after the debate ended? All right. That first clip there from John King. I'm going to fast forward now to a little after 11 o'clock Eastern time. All right. So about 20 plus minutes later.