text:  And I had all my journalism awards hanging on the wall. And my brothers who were in real estate, one of them looked at all the journalism awards and said, you know, if one of these awards said best commercial real estate salesman, you wouldn't be living like this. And so I got out. Small market TV was was romantic, but I don't want to do it again. All right. So but how did you make the leap? I mean, where did you go from small market to not so small market?