text:  and key people to help them continue to be, how do they think about their business and how are we layering in as a thought partner? I say when we're really engaging, we try to zipper in with clients, be augmenting that C-suite, working very closely with the owner and the leadership team on, it could be daily matters, comp structure, thinking through whatever issue has come up and being an extension of that team to solve for issues for them.