text:  doing there where you say the same thing for antonio pierce well isn't that coaching i but what i'm saying is i agree with you but without having the visual moment uh it's the absence of mistake that's why he agrees with both of us yeah it's the absence of mistake so you don't we don't when you don't see it yeah it's hard to quantify it because steve we know we need shiny things that make noises in front of us for us to pay attention