text:  not really that much now they still come up but i was always fascinated especially in in covid and you know the whole van life thing just blew up and it was like yeah you know i i thought about it i wanted to get out in nature i wanted to spend more time in nature and they're producing these slick packages on youtube and i'm like what are they talking about they're flying their drone 10 hours a day and editing on their computer inside of a van in the wilderness and