text:  yeah it really is and i love how you mentioned that you really start them when they're very early and as early as you can and i bet those conversations change the ones that you had in grade school versus the one that you're having when they're in college yes definitely i mean it just you kind of just frame it in a way that they understand but most importantly make it a really positive and empowering situation that that you know definitely prioritize experiences right the passport mommy knows as well versus more material