text:  possibly be there for a long time if it all makes sense for everyone um but having that chance having that availability there for the top tier ride like this one is you know that was just something that yeah i wanted to chase and get on top of once i knew it was available again we're talking with daniel hammert former nascar xfinity series champion and soon-to-be full-time driver at mackinac hillman racing in 2025 in the craftsman truck series