text:  and the old timers i ask the old timers and what do you guys think about all these city folks coming up and they're building these homes and tearing down the trees and they're building on the sides of these mountains and the guys were the old timers are like man we love this and i'm like really really you you love they go yeah they said that property we sold is absolutely worthless yet you can't grow anything up there that the crap there's not enough dirt you can't grow crops and he said the reality is