text:  So one of those things. And it's also from an insurance point of view, this whole B-SOD, the old blue screen of death, is it an act of God or is it a B-SOD? It's going to be fascinating in the next couple of days to work out who pays for what. Technology and AI expert Dan Sodergren. We'll have more on the ongoing IT outage later in the programme, including the ongoing effects on travel and business. Stay with us on NewsHour.