text:  They're at the beginning of the process, and you're well past the middle of the process. And so sometimes I think it is giving space and letting them kind of be with it. Yes, well, that's a very good point. Yeah, that's a very good point. But I did wonder, as I was thinking about it, it seems to me that often the struggles that family members have around their transgender family member is really based often in the teachings of the church.