text:  OK. And in terms of what happens now, it's the same person. Are we going to get exactly the same kind of leadership from Ursula von der Leyen, or has she made promises to do anything differently? I think the same kind of leadership, yes. But she has made all sorts of promises along the way of what's going to be on her agenda, and those are very strong. I mean, the main one we've talked about is defence.