text:  Well, I've been touring since I was 21. I think I'm a person who works in extremes, and so I just didn't stop. I don't know how to relax. I think that's probably clear. But lungs and ceremonials was just sort of one, I don't know how long that was then, like five years of touring. And I'm not a natural traveler. You don't like flying, I think, right? Yeah.