text:  And my daughter is like, why is she asking that? And I was like, oh, I guess she wants to clarify. And she's like, well, why not asking what her mother's job is? You know, just things like that where it becomes so obvious. So I think that somebody like Carrie Chapman, Kat, to sort of circle back to your question, people like that inspire me because they have a higher hill to climb, I think, than I do, certainly. I think I and many others in my generation can take for granted that