text:  President Biden can make the case against him and for us. And that's what we're all watching for right now. Do you mean to say that he can't make that case? I'm saying that most people who watch the debate were concerned that he could make that case. And I think we all agree with that because it was a tough night, as he has said. Is there a separate concern? One is winning in November. The other is being able to serve four years from now.