text:  Yeah, he was one of those never Trumpers, right? And even after Trump took office, he once wondered, Vance did, whether Trump was maybe America's Hitler. But by the time Vance ran for office himself in 2022, he was fully on board. He was a defender of Donald Trump. Trump endorsed him. He spoke very highly of him. And now here we are. Here we are indeed. That is NPR's Don Gagne. Don, thank you. My pleasure.