text:  And that was a song that the kids actually wrote. That was one thing that definitely shook him and woke him up. So how do you persuade somebody who's in a position to make change to make that change? What do you say? What are the techniques? I don't know if there are really any techniques. I think it's passion. And I think the minister was able to feel the passion, not from me, but from the young people involved.