text:  Travel with Rick Steves is produced by Tim Tatton, Kaz Marahall, and Donna Bardsley at Rick Steves Europe in Edmonds, Washington. Affiliate relations are by Sheila Gerzoff. Website uploads are by Andrew Wakeling and Sherry Quirt. Our theme music is by Jerry Frank. You can find links to our guests and search the show archives at ricksteves.com slash radio. We'll look for you again next week with more Travel with Rick Steves.