text:  Yeah, no, that's great advice. I think that's just about all the time we have for the hour. I'd like to thank my guests once again, Dr. Celine Gounder, Editor at Large for Public Health at KFF Health News and Infectious Disease Specialist and Epidemiologist, and Dr. Nicole Martin, Assistant Research Professor in Dairy Foods Microbiology and Food Science at Cornell University. Thank you both so much for coming on the show this week. There was so much helpful information in there.