text:  And we wanted to think about things a little bit differently and think about where are ways that we do have common ground and how might we work together to move forward. So we started talking and just gradually moved a little bit slowly. And over the past five years, it's kind of coalesced into a working arrangement. This group got together five years ago. What used to be the topics of discussion? And now that it's been five years, what do you come together to talk about these days?