text:  Eric, this is so fun talking about Ben Franklin. He's such a fascinating, intriguing, and the more you know about him, more inspirational character, and so American. When you think about the fraught times that he lived and worked in, and you think about today, when we're so divided and our politics are so challenged and our government, to a lot of people, just seems so broken, how can Franklin inspire us to be Americans together? And what would Franklin recommend as we deal with our challenges today?