text:  how do we at least keep the conversation going so we're moving in the right direction? And I've seen just a real sea change in kind of the respect for each other and a temperature drop in terms of the rhetoric that both sides are using. You know, to be honest, there's a lot of people on the animal welfare side, for example, who want to tell you that toxoplasmosis isn't a problem. And if it is a problem, cats aren't involved. Well,