text:  The Hawaii Ant Lab is taking the lead on that effort there. Kiyoshi Adachi heads its Kona office. I got the chance to interview him last year as we were collecting research for HPR's narrative podcast, This Is Our Hawaii. His interview didn't make it into the final cut, but we held on to it because the information he shared was so riveting. So here's Adachi talking about the menacing little fire ant and its impact on the Big Island.