text:  And the idea that if you interject and require some sort of forced pause in the shooting, that it'll at least limit the carnage. It won't avoid it all, because we're going to still have these guns. But at least with a ban on the size of the magazine, they at least give folks a shot at survival. Well, Todd Frankel, thank you so much for talking with us. Thank you for your reporting for the series in The Washington Post. Oh, thank you, Terri.