text:  Research on panda pee can be used for other species. Same goes for cryopreservation, the freezing of semen. And studying the vegetation, climate, or landscape of panda habitat could be useful information for many ecologists. So we get lots of bang for the panda's buck. But how does this play out across conservation? Dr. Rich Bergel is the Director of Animal Care, Conservation, Education, and Science at the North Carolina Zoo. And he brings us to our next point, money.