text:  And it's pretty much the Duke Ellington Orchestra rather than the Duke Ellington Collaborative. Right. But they still rehearse. They absolutely rehearse. Oh, absolutely. And there's certainly some freedom in that, too. But in other words, it's not a we're all equal and own this thing together. Now it's your lead. Now it's your lead. It's like, no. You can imagine what it was like. I mean, the Grateful Dead stayed together for 30-some years. And I'm sure they had some...