text:  lethal control or we're calling it humane dispatch you know I think that's a little more accurate whether humane dispatch or TNR works and we said you know what we know that's going to activate conversations that aren't going to get us anywhere so let's just agree that we're not going to try to take either of those off the table and we're going to try to find space for things we can talk about and then as we got more comfortable working together and talking together that's when we