text:  And, um, you know, he was like, I don't know what that is. And I'm like, Mel, we got to start, we got to start somewhere that might be a good place. Um, because I know that there, and I shared, uh, the, and I meant to text Dean back. Um, I forwarded you that message that, uh, Dean Rogers, one of our, uh, managers, one of our, our engineers, um, uh,