text:  you can't disentangle the United States and the wider region. And the more American lawmakers have tried, whether through politics of foreign policy or immigration policy, the more tightly bound the U.S. and this region become. And Juan really exemplifies that. Jonathan, thank you very much. Thank you so much for having me. Jonathan Blitzer is a staff writer at The New Yorker and author of the new book, Everyone Who Is Gone Is Here.