text:  I mean, it seems like she's been in all of these conversations, but not publicly, right? So a lot of these conversations have been with members of Congress, with senators. It really seems like she has been out there in the last two weeks or so kind of trying to help navigate this and orchestrate Biden's getting out of the race without coming out publicly and doing something that would have really, I think, hurt their relationship and his feelings, quite frankly.