text:  Well, you know, maybe this is the time to change. You know, we've just been celebrating 50 years since the decriminalization of homosexuality. I mean, there were millions of people walking on Gay Pride in London that same weekend. So maybe this is the beginning of another seismic shift towards understanding. So Chris Newlands must have been really excited when this happened. And I think you talked to him right after. And so let's let's take a listen to what he had to say.