text:  And I think that carries on today. If you look at the Hawaiian intellectuals, it's mostly women. And like you said, and the style, not to put value on it, but when I was at county and even now, a lot of the people that are across the table, attorneys, opposition, women, there's guys in there, not to say they're not, but their style is different. It's more combative. It's more of like a