text:  Welcome back. This is Bite Marks Cafe. I'm Bert Lum right here on Hawaii Public Radio. And if you're just joining us, we're talking to Constancio Paranal, the third innovation and tech program manager over at the Office of Economic Revitalization at the City and County of Honolulu. And we're talking about the BEAT program and the challenge process. And right before the break, you know, we're kind of trying to not get too technical. But, of course, you know, the audience that I have likes to get technical.