text:  But Anna, I suppose this sort of swing to the right was due in part to backlash to green policies, wasn't it? The green backlash, yes. It's fair to say that many of the right-wing populists tend to smoosh a lot of these things together. So essentially arguing that elite politicians can afford to be concerned about green issues, but actually this is evidence that they're out of touch with how much of a struggle, how much of a daily grind people are...