text:  So that's how I started. And then they were having a selective team to go to New Zealand for the U12. And I was like, okay, this is going to be good for me. So I went over to a tryout and then they see me. I was like, oh, this guy can catch anything. It's like, you know, jump everywhere. Maybe the way I grew up catching coconut, it was the best thing. So I don't know.