text:  Well, I understand the criticism. You had a young guy, I was 44 or 45 at the time, talking to somebody who is an elder statesman in the party, had served as vice president, and comes off as disrespectful. And at the time, I was not saying, hey, I think you're in decline because you can't forget that. It was a reaction in a back and forth. He and I were going back and forth, and it was a reaction to say, hey, didn't you just say something different?