text:  dispatch, regardless of how humane it is, is just not an appropriate approach. And so that's where reproductive control is one that would make sense if that's the problem that you're trying to solve. And so that's where it was getting really entrenched of arguing about these things, but not realizing that the whole time we have this dripping tap, that's the turn off the tap analogy of these new pet cats that are being added to the environment.