text:  You know, Joe Biden, you know, was unchallenged except for a very relatively unknown congressman. So he was going to go to Chicago in August and almost by acclamation, he was going to be the nominee. And then of course, you had the intervention really from that debate at the end of June, where the questions about whether he could carry on, not just for four years as president, but whether he could defeat Donald Trump in November were mounting. So this is uncharted territory in which we were already in uncharted territory.