text:  when you've actually controlled it so that there are essentially so few infections you could barely count them. But we don't know if that's going to be the case with the dynamics. So it isn't as if we're avoiding your question. We don't know the precise answer to that. So that was April 30th, 2021, Dr. Fauci. I have to say, I still stand by my question because people wanted to know the answer to that. But what I want to put to you now is I also think