text:  I don't know how to describe it. You got to be there. Yeah, I guess the challenge we had was there was not many photographs taken of the site before CSO was built. They were there in the 60s and there wasn't a lot of photographs back then of landscape that people did. So we did extensively look for photographs, but we couldn't find any. So the next thing they had was had these geotech engineers come out and take a look at the surrounding landscape and try to