 Now, from the files of Del Wamsley. Guy came up to me and said, man, I went up and I listened to your podcast. He said, man, it's really interesting. I'm thinking about doing it. And that really was interesting to me that just an infrequent conversation to somebody at a bar could start someone's mind to thinking about retirement. There was a big leadership training meeting they were at, and yet some guy really was willing to come up and say, hey, I really would like to retire. And the point I'm getting to is,