 it's talking about a very sliver number of deciders in this country people that may not like either one of the candidates may be thinking are they going to vote at all are they going to vote third party or vote for for one or the other so it's not really the kind of lots of people are going to watch lots of people are going to listen but it's not the kind of thing where you know let's introduce them to the american public they are known quantities they both know that and they know each other they debated each other four years ago twice and they both have records as presidents that they're going to attack each other about