 He says, when they look at Joe Biden behind the background, what they're really looking at is Kamala Harris, which nobody wants as their next president. There's one quick political point. I think a lot of people, they're going to see Mr. Biden, but they're actually going to see Kamala Harris behind Mr. Biden. A lot of people do not believe that President Biden, whatever happens in the outcome of this race, will be the president for the next four years. And I think that's one of the unseen, invisible hands