 And if you'd like to join in, maybe be on the show, you can reach us out there as well. Plus, you can check out all the previous episodes that we've done for you. I think we've got almost 35 or 40 in the bank. Check them out. Anyways, back to Nuke. You mentioned Apple and what they're doing and their kind of closed-garden infrastructure. It'll give them a little bit more controls, but it's going to probably take a little bit longer for them to kind of