 If you come to the case studies, you see it. If you go to the expo, you see it, you hear it. People, you meet them who have retired. And you say, what would it be worth on the front end to pick up a position to where you didn't have to work anymore? You are retired. Retired at 26 or 27, like some of the young kids we've had done in the last couple of years. Retired at 32, like me. I think I was, no, actually I was 34.