 But I think the moderators gave up trying to help Joe out. I think they may have started at first. But I think they even realized that there was nothing they could do to help him out. So they just kind of tried to play it down the middle. Let me ask a question. Hold on. What do you mean they tried to help him out? Explain that to me. Because the first question they asked was not a good one for Biden. So tell me what you mean they tried to help him out. Well, I think they were trying to be lenient with him.