 documents, objects, or other things used in an official proceeding or attempted to do so. As my dad said earlier on the broadcast, they believe this is a fatal blow to Jack Smith's D.C. case against President Trump, one of the two cases. And then, of course, the debate last night. And, Will, I want to go to you on this because there's one thing that's always key. And this is that when you turn off most presidential debates, whether there was a clear winner or loser,