 in value-oriented stocks. So what we mean by value versus growth, typically, that is defined by price-earnings ratio. And there's a lot of definitions for it. Some look at dividends, some look at other book value and others. But most analysts say that a stock that's trading at more than 20 times what it's worth, so let's say, hypothetically, you have a company like Coke that earns $2 a share,