 It's not just the money, it's the lifestyle. Here's Del Wamsley. What happens is people buy real estate and they have no idea what they're doing, right? So maybe they don't pay, they don't buy it cheap and capture equity. Maybe they pay full price for it. Maybe they even pay too much for it, all right? Maybe they don't even know how to lease it. They rent it to their friend or their family member. They don't make any money with it.