 All right. And they've been trying for a while because they finally did it. I don't know what that means. Maybe he meant something else. Here's Brett Baier. Pretty much what he says right here summed up the debate last night. On substance, former President Trump continued to hammer the issue of border security and illegal immigrants coming across the border again and again and again. President Biden did make points on abortion, defending NATO. But much of the debate went back and forth on how bad each president was, arguing about that, even going down to golf handicaps at one point.