 what after, when I got to be six or seven years of age, we'd put coin, quarters and dimes and nickels, my family wasn't rich, my dad was a forest ranger, mom stayed home with me. And so, but spare change, we'd throw it in a jar. And then about every six months or so, we'd take all that was in the jar, we'd turn it into paper money and then into a money order, and we'd send it to Joseph Koo. My mom wanted him to be able to emigrate to the United States.