 And Sanders said, I would just say you're not being able to say this clearly is a reason people might have doubts about whether he should be the nominee and feel the party should choose someone who people feel confident can finish their term. And Sanders said, you're doing exactly what I've been plotting. If you want to make the case, Biden is not the perfect candidate for a dozen different reasons. Go ahead. And you're right. But tell me, you've got a better path forward. I don't think you do. So what Sanders is saying there is he is deeply afraid that Kamala Harris can do even worse.