 There is a bit of a conflict between his life story as told in Hillbilly Elegy and his economic program. Doesn't mean that it shouldn't be part of the conversation. Obviously is part of the conversation. It's a huge part of the conversation right now. But it's certainly heterodox as we discussed when he was selected as the vice presidential pick by President Trump. But his story is unquestionably an amazing American story that requires telling over and over again. I was lucky.