 if you're retired, even if you don't have a quote unquote job, occupational wellness is not about a job. It's about finding purpose. It's about finding meaning. It's about making a difference. And Larry, you have been amazing at sharing a little bit about how you work with people. And I knew I had to have you on for this type of a program and for you to close it out strong. So tell me a little bit about your process in working with people.