 And I've had people say, well, what do you mean? I said, well, with most criminals, you could say what they did. What did Ted Bundy do? Murder young ladies. What did Jeffrey Dahmer do? He ate people. How about Ted Kaczynski? He blew people up. Even Bernie Madoff, he stole other people's money. I mean, you may not know the technical way to say it, but you know generically what he did.