 A tire and turn it into tiny little rubber chips? Yeah, there's different kinds of devices depending on what you want to do with the aggregate. So initially what we're looking at is a shredder to reduce the volume by 75%. And then we'll look for ways for that product to be used. So shredder we're looking at. So I told you about 10,000 tires a year. That's about 50,000 cubic feet.