 it's becoming a nuisance where it's like right at the front gate where people walk in right at the front door where people walk in and it's starting to smell up our paddy okay so um what you could try to do i mean your dog is then going to go to another spot and that'll become sort of smelly anyway you know i mean so a part of the answer to all this goes actually back to your first question about getting your dog out of the yard to pee in other places do you live in a rural area