 That's right. So if you look at just figures on voluntary turnover, that's people just leaving at their own volition. That's down from just a couple years ago, that was at near 17%, now closer to 12%, 13%. So that's fallen. We've also seen companies also track something that they call regrettable attrition. Those are the high performers that they'd rather keep. Fewer of those people are leaving, too. So you've got the star staying in place. You've got a lot less attrition inside companies as fewer people quit.