 So that's leading a lot of workers to feel like they're trapped to some extent. They just see less movement within their companies. A number of employees have said that this is frustrating. They want to still feel like they're progressing and growing, but that's harder to do when there are fewer openings, fewer places to get promoted. And so I think that's led a lot of companies to say, how do we address this? Right. All right. So you cited some turnover data in your story, too.