 We should be having a more honest conversation about what the real barriers are in the lives of the poor. Because without that recognition, I think we're always going to be kind of bouncing around the problem and not really recognizing what's really going on. Let's go back. Albion Seed was the first book to explore the Scots-Irish in America. Then James Webb wrote a book called Born Fighting. But it was at a 20,000-foot level. Hillbilly Elegy is a front porch level. Would you explain to people who the hillbillies are that you're talking about in this book?