 It doesn't matter if Billy Graham denies it or Shuler denies it. All those other men like to deny it. That's just convenient for where they stand. And I'm going to discuss that today. That's one of the things I'm going to get into a little bit is how these people today can say, well, God is a God of love. I just can't imagine a place like hell. Oh, I think we can change your thinking on that. Even those who do believe in hell, you won't find too many of them actually believe that I'm going there. I mean, that's for Adolf Hitler's. That's just for the vilest of the vile.