 cleveland that even when they're it's down at the lower court uh the president president trump will be able to appeal that right away uh kind of an interlocutory appeal before the trial is done and goes up to the appellate court and back up to the supreme court so my view is the court sort of said get this back down we're going to give you these two broad guidelines um but i think they're going to drop the hammer on a lot of these what you know the presumptive ones in the sense of