 and push them try to help them understand i told you we went line by line through the federalist papers but i was a teacher and we'd try to dissect them and go hey where have you seen this before let's talk about the philosophical philosophical works we've read before what themes do you see repeated okay well where do you think john j got this from where do you think this came from and so it really starts unpacking to them okay well these are some themes that we see and it starts building that understanding