 of hand-wringing over this right now. They don't know what to do and they don't have a viable plan B. Many of them don't believe that Kamala Harris is a viable candidate at the top either, and they're running out of time. So it'll be interesting to see what happens. From our perspective, Martha, it doesn't matter who they put at the top of the ticket. If Kamala is the nominee, so be it. She is the co-author.