 Well, Hugh, I got to work with and see Kamala Harris up close for four years in the U.S. Senate. And I've known J.D. now for a few years, not just since he became a senator, but before that. And I'll just say that even without the burden of defending the atrocious Biden-Harris record, Kamala Harris is going to face a very, very tough task in debating J.D. Vance later this year.