 I don't necessarily know if we're talking about anything but distinct flavors of surrender monkeys. The projection of American strength abroad, a confident American abroad, is, I think, of value because this is something also that J.D. Vance said, that people don't fight for ideas. This is this weird nationalist flourish. And I understand why. They don't want us to be promoting ideas like liberty and democracy abroad, which we understand make us safe because shared values make us safe.