 And they did my loan when I moved back to the Beltway in 2016. They did the loans for Duane in Southern California, done the loans for lots of Salem executives. Thousands, I don't want to say millions of people have heard me talk about Andrew and Todd, but thousands of people have used them as their mortgage lender because that's what they are. They are lenders. We've been talking about veterans today because J.D. Vance is a veteran. He's running as President Trump's running mate.