 And his own preferences and what I heard Mary Catherine Hamm say yesterday, which I think if I could get Team Trump to listen to anything, they ought to listen to Getting Hammered, the most recent edition, where Mary Catherine Hamm, the target demo, young mom, smart, college educated, living in Virginia. Who would she want to be the vice president? But I'll do that after the break. Stay tuned. I'll be back with Ben Dominich. And during the break, we're going to talk about the anyways in Joe Biden's neurological lapses. Stay tuned.