 no i mean a hundred years ago if you walked into the church most churches in america and said hey my family's poor i'm out of work i'm trying to find another job can we get a box of food they give you a box of food about six weeks later when you've taken six boxes of food and they say are you still looking for a job and the man or woman says no no you're feeding on my family so i don't need to look for a job anymore the church would cut you off government charities to government welfare tends to be a little bit different than that they want to make sure that they have a good dependent class of people