 That was made some time ago by the Ninth Circus Court. But now the U.S. Supreme Court is debating whether or not a city can ban homeless people from camping on public land. I hope they say, yes, you can ban them from public land. Is that a necessary decision for public safety or an infringement on the rights of the homeless? Jim Burling joins us now, who's vice president of legal affairs at Pacific Legal Foundation. Jim, welcome back.