 And then you could pick up, you could record whatever was on, the sound was on the radio, but it also picked up. Oh, yeah, no, I mean, sure, sure. I mean, I remember recording stuff on Boomboxes, yeah. Yeah, so he'd record the tapes, and then like once a week, I'd sneak over his house and give me all the tapes, and then I'd just kind of listen to them as I could. Man, that was the old school. Yeah, it was really under the radar. And look how far we've come together, thanks to people like that neighbor. What was his first name? Jeff. Well, whatever happened to Jeff?