 And I mean, I appreciate him as a shark on Shark Tank, but I know he is a minority owner now, but he used to be a principal owner of the Dallas Mavericks NBA team. So we'll have a little fun. Is that a round ball? It's like a round. Is it like a round and then they bounce it? It's something like that. Something like that. You're close. We're going to start with you, Lori. All true or false. In 2007, he was a contestant on Dancing with the Stars. True or false? False.