 Steve Gorham, Kate Wolgamuth, as we continue on this week's edition of the Energy Hour. And don't forget, you can follow me on X at PTF Alaska. And if you like what you hear or you have some constructive criticism, drop me an email. I'm at rick at powerofthefuture.com. That's rick at powerofthefuture.com. Guests coming up. Hang out with me the rest of the show. We'll be back after these messages on the Power of the Future Energy Hour on KVNT.