 He uses the phrase, this wall, the separating church and state, and how that's been misinterpreted and twisted. And it leads us to, you know, in the 80s before your dad founded wall builders, Richard John Newhouse wrote a book in 1984, The Naked Public Square, because he understood that this is what is happening, that you have this false view that says we've got to take God, we've got to take Christian values individually.