 We have to pay it back with interest, just like, you know, you pay back interest on a home loan or anything like that. The interest costs for borrowing the money that we're spending is now more expensive than our national defense. It's also more expensive than Medicare. And so I think the the uncomfortable truth that people need to come to terms with is one, both parties are to blame for this problem. Donald Trump is bad about this. Joe Biden is bad about this. But not just who's to blame, but what the real culprit is and the real culprits of our overspending.