 what they've been doing since the early 1960s. Well, and I've got to tell you, Grover, one of my earliest memories in news coverage was I worked for a lot of smart people, and I learned a lot from them. And one day when I was maybe 20 years old, my boss, the news director, said, what happened with that plane crash in Russia? And I said, well, TASS is saying that nobody died and nobody got hurt on the ground. And he said, yeah, that's TASS.