 I don't remember the name Ed Dowd ever being on the show. Oh, yeah, you had him on the show. Edward Dowd, the financer. D-O-B-B. I thought you said Dowd. No, Dowd. D-O-W-D. You don't remember having Ed Dowd on? I'd have to look at my books. You know, I'm well over the 3,000 mark. Yeah, well, he was on your show.