 It just looks spectacular. Sometimes you blow up a TV show on a movie screen and you go, oh, that's not this. Oh, and look at that. That guy's wearing a modern watch. And it's often just as interesting as the story and beautifully acted. It usually doesn't look this gorgeous blown up in a movie screen. This does. Kirk Ellis is the co-writer and co-producer of Franklin, the TV series on Apple Plus. Kirk, thanks for being with us. Thank you. Always good to talk to you. Stay right here for more of the Independence Day special from CBS News Radio.