 She's a very biblical person, a person of deep faith. You know, it's funny what she said. She doesn't go to church that much. The thing is, I told my Chabad rabbi, I'm not into the bureaucracy, the buildings and this, that, and the other. And he laughs when I say that. But I am into the faith and learning about it. And I get the sense that's the same with Kathy Lee Gifford as a Christian. She talks about...