 And he said, you know how we always think that Obama's sitting in the basement running everything? He said, no, no, man. He said, I was right there. He said, it's the other way around. He said, Biden is blackmailing Obama for homosexuality. Now, we know that Obama and his wife, you know, Big Mike, Big Michelle, you know, we know she was a man to start with. So this is what Biden is holding over. This is what the stenographer said.