 It just got so heated. I don't understand that. I really don't. Well, the good news is Joe Concha is more than capable of handling himself. Number two, poor Len Berman. I don't know. I mean, he slams pretty solidly left. He's a nice person in real life. But then you got Mark Simone to kind of counter everything that maybe Len says in the morning right afterwards. So you're getting a variety of opinions there, okay?