 Lou was a, I think people all know this, but he was a great economics expert. Yes, market expert. That was his real expertise, and he grew from that, kept growing and growing. And it seems to me that the issue that was the transition issue for him was the open border. I can remember him earlier than most pushing us on the border and feeling very, in fact, there were times in which I thought he was concentrating on it too much, and he kind of brought me around.