 He was the second president of Planned Parenthood. He's considered the father of Planned Parenthood, Alan Guttmacher, who it's named after. But overall, I must say, their statistics are accurate, and I've put them in some of my books. And you know they're not on our side, so there's a certain credibility there. But the irony with Alan Guttmacher is he was one of the first OBGYNs to say that an abortion can never save your life. He said that in the 60s. And so, of course, they have buried that quote.