 So we'll see how he navigates that. But it's one thing to name him, understanding that he's going to be an asset in November, potentially. And it's another thing to name him, understanding that what he represents is a continuation of this Trumpian approach to populist policy within the Republican movement for years to come, potentially. And that's, I think, going to be the point where a lot of people are going to learn a lot more about him and what his