 uh, old debt when, uh, you go into debt, when you have a debt and, uh, you don't pay it off and they go into collections and what they do is they pay a penny on the dollar. So, um, I, uh, took a payday loan out, um, probably 13 years ago, a little longer. Yeah. And, uh, all of that time never heard. So I was working for a company that went out of business. So all the emails and all that got,