 But you can't do both. No, you're talking about, I mean, people would call in years gone by when I said, why don't we just stop all this CPP stuff, let them survive on their own like we do, without government funding and without a bias. And they said, oh, no, no, they couldn't survive without it. I said, oh, so you're saying that without government funding, they wouldn't exist, that means they're government funded. No, no, it's a tiny, tiny, tiny percentage of all the money that they spend to support PBS and NPR.