 not only engage in, but support and advance in their communities and beyond. So it's actually interesting to watch happen every day. We're talking to Tim Parrish, one-on-one partner at the Statesman Strategy Group. That's statesmanstrategy.com. Follow him at Tim Parrish with two R's, Tim Parrish VA on Twitter. I'm Sebastian Walker. If you enjoy the deep dive with the real experts like Tim, the long-form radio, make sure you never, ever miss an episode.