 So we have five boards here. We also have 300 committee members and 1,800 volunteers. So that's literally herding cats. I think what I learned from my brother is to listen as much as you talk. And that helps to bring people along a lot if they feel heard. Sabrina? Yeah, Cassie, in the green room, you mentioned that you did whatever was possible to stay busy. So how does that impact where you are today?