 Go do a contest for yourself. But if being asked would I do the Kirkland all beef versus the Kogels from the great state of Michigan, beef and pork, it's the Kirkland. Unquestionably, every day of the week and twice on Sunday, my mind has not been changed. That's fair. He's talking crazy talk. I'm not talking crazy talk. I'm making perfect quality sense. It's a superior hot dog.