 And it really counts for something. They're not a conservative. Thomas, thank you for the show. One thing I've got to do before we go off and we can talk about anything after this, I promise to get it out. Rick Whitbeck's show, Power of the Future, tonight at 5. He had Dennis on there again. And he has Mary Patola on. And it's always revealing, whether good or bad. I know what our audience might say or think. Go ahead and have a listen. He's our buddy at 5 o'clock tonight on KVNT.