 And the people that argue, well, I was born this way, you think that that person has an argument they were born that way because there ain't nothing in the world that can condition you to think like that outside of getting exposed to sexual deviancy, maybe at a younger age. But some of those people say they were born that way. There's no scientific proof that this proves that. It's just like some people are born killers. They are born with lacking empathy and different things like that that are...