 Now, Len, that makes you more of an optimist than Haviv Rehagur of the Times of Israel and Michael Oren, the ambassador or former ambassador from Israel to the United States who joined me regularly. They think they've got to repopulate the north and soon in time for schools to open in the fall. And it doesn't show any sign. Hezbollah shows no signs of stopping. Is there a conversation that's not making it?