 I mean, what we were arguing together then was what became, led by Jay Bhattacharya and others, the Great Barrington Declaration, and everything we said was right. I mean, there's a simple way of remembering it, which is that everything that they said was misinformation turned out to be true, and everything that they said turned out to be misinformation. That's exactly right. That's basically the story of those years. And such...