 Well, the new rules are designed to make it more of an issue, substance-based debate. But it'll be up to the candidates about whether they come through and kind of fulfill their part of the bargain there. We had such two contrasting different debates in 2020. Cleveland marred by interruptions, and nobody was satisfied with that. And I thought Nashville then was a little bit more subdued and typical. But I think the game plan coming in tonight for both sides is to be more presidential above the fray.