 tests of 1988 are now, by anybody, any knowledgeable skeptic won't bring it up anymore. They're still skeptics, but they won't bring up the carbon-14 dating anymore, will they, Larry? No, they can't take it serious like they tried to. But, you know, we have a whole new venue now. We have not only science, we have historical evidence. And something that Fred and myself have been involved in is the biblical text itself. There are