 you know, specific arrangements for something like that. Right. I would imagine his son would have a lot of things on his plate right now. And Joe Marino told me in an email that he was going out there. So I think the website, shroud.com, is in very good hands with Joe Marino. Yes, absolutely. No, that was planned for, and Joe's going to do a great job. And Joe is, in fact, with Russ, and they're going out there for a conference today.