 that I'll be glad to read a couple things from. In fact, I just quoted from it, talking about his mother. It was done in 2020, March of 2020, on townhall.com. And the name of it was called Shroud of Turin, Interview with the World's Leading... Happens to be Jewish. And, of course, Barry played that up a lot. It was part of his shtick, you could say. In fact, he was Jewish, and he was the leading proponent of the Shroud. So he was really proud of that. So that really...