 a national convention, they're going to give that nod to somebody else. They have to at this point. Well, Axelrod said that the only way, Axelrod, one of the left's big speaking people, said that the only way that Biden would be out of this is Biden decided to be out of this. I thought that was very interesting. He said that on CNN. And some of the people I was watching this with were all like, wait, what?