 Yep, that's one of the things we'll try to get to later in the show. But we're up against the music. Thanks for your call in, Mark. Thanks, everybody, for listening. All right, see you on the flip side. Bye. And we will be going to the commercials, and we will be back with your calls at 907-357-5868. You're listening to The Morning Drive with Thomas Lovings, KVNT. Heading into twilight, spreading out our wings tonight.