 I referred to the youth pastor I had. His name was Rich Dotson. We still communicate every now and then. I was 16 at the time and just diving into the Bible. I mean, I still wanted to be that way, but it was all so new to me. He would invite me over and say, why don't you come on over and we'll just study. It wasn't for any preaching or anything like that. This was the first thing that I came to in my life, the issue on body, soul, and spirit that we had a difference on. And it wasn't major. This isn't a major thing as he was talking to me.