 And everyone's expecting a very close election, so they should use their past experiences to cause the most fair debate that can be beneficial to those that are still on the fence in terms of making a decision and let the chips where they may fall as opposed to trying to do too much, which has backfired in the past. The Lee Hess Director of Debate at the University of Michigan, Aaron Call. Aaron, thank you so much. Always great talking to you. Anytime, Alex.