 So when they took it from the actual direct line from the microphone to the camera, they thought he was saying something important. Then they realized, oh no.  He's doing this thing. The camera started floating around everywhere. They shut off the direct link again to the camera. So you just heard the ambient sound from the speakers. And then they cut the feed via satellite from NBC. So that's what we just saw. Now, what I just reported and what I just showed to those who happen to be watching, what I reported to those listening, is exactly what went down. Kareem Jean-Pierre would hear what I said before the debate.  And say that I edited it out of context. That the NBC reporter had breaking news he had to run to. The NBC feed just happened to run out. The satellite time was done. It wasn't to cut off the president. She would say that I was misrepresenting it. But since the debate, it's a great point. That actually was close. I'll give you silver. I think it was gold, Carrie, I'll be honest with you. All right, I'll try. Because you really tried, though, to give you the silver? Next time, okay. No, no, it was really good.  But I think your point is well taken. Without that debate happening, they would have had every excuse to say I was lying about what I just showed and what I just said. Right. Okay. So more cheap fakes. All right. Gotcha. Got it. Okay. Have you noticed she hasn't said cheap fakes since the debate? I know. Not since the debate. Or I haven't heard her say it. So how about that? She's busy hiding doctors' names. You can't. You can't say the doctor's name. You can't talk about its privacy. It's a threat. It's a private matter. It's an existential threat. It probably is an existential threat. Everything is, isn't it?  Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. 888-941-PAGS. 888-941-7247. JoePags.com. Let me remind you about EdenPure. The best-selling EdenPure Thunderstorm air purifier is small. It is compact. 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Now looks like he might be able to.  We talk about all that and then some. Do not miss it. But I've got to give you what Kerry and I both were going, I'm sorry, what's he talking about? What are the chances, Kerry, that we catch that long speech he did at Doral yesterday and we catch him only when he's talking about golf? I know. Go figure. I was like, really? Yeah. All right, so let me give you the challenge. Go ahead. It's better be gold.  I know. I had nothing else to say. I thought you had something else. No. Are you sure? You're not going to go for it? You're not going to put that pressure on to me. Maybe go tomorrow. Maybe tomorrow. Wow. All right, people. You heard it. Tune in tomorrow. By the way, just got the email of the week from Ron. Oh, no.  Ron says, you are right about the hurricane name. Hurricanes are named after people. I have never known anyone named Peril. Pretty good. I have known multiple people named Burl. Carrie, I agree with you most of the time. On this one, you're wrong. You're following the propaganda people. You two keep up the great work listening now. There you go from Ron. Great, great. Why listen to the propaganda people? Thanks, Ron. I appreciate it. Ron calling you out. All right, let's do the challenge. Here we go.  I'm also officially challenging Crooked Joe to an 18-hole golf match right here. Let's go.  Under Al's blue monster considered one of the greatest tournament golf courses anywhere in the world. One of the great courses of the world. Can you believe it's one of the great courses of the world and it happens to be his? That's crazy. What? It will be among the most watched sporting events in history. Maybe bigger than the Ryder Cup or even... It's better than the biggest sports event in history. Can't believe it. Oh, man. It'd be fantastic. On watch.  And I will even give Joe Biden 10 strokes aside. 10 strokes, that's a lot. That means 20 strokes in case you don't play golf. I will give him 10 strokes aside. And if he wins, I will give the charity of his choice, any charity that he wants, $1 million. And I'll bet you he doesn't take the offer.  TDC is what I say. TDC. Trump don't care. He just doesn't. Not only is it a challenge for charity, but it's the best golf course on the planet. It'll be bigger than the Ryder Cup. It's the most watched sporting event ever. In history, more than any Super Bowl, any World Series, any NBA championship, this will be, you know, why? Because it's at Trump Doral. Hello? Absolutely. Yep.  I can't wait to talk to him again. We don't have it scheduled yet, but we're going to get it done. It looks like it might be something right after the convention. But we're hoping to have him on again. And the first question has to be, the golf stuff's killing me. Talk to me about the golf stuff. We've got to hit a break here. When we come back, it'll be Caroline Sunshine from the Trump campaign. Stay here. This is The Joke. Are you pregnant?  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Caroline, how are you? Good to see you.  I am great, thank you. Like I said, better than Joe Biden outside the hours of 7 and 4 p.m. Great to be on your show. Well, I agree with you that you are better than Joe Biden, and you are great. She's the Deputy Communications Director for Trump 2024, which is awfully exciting. Now, I think that when we were probably on the same air at the same time, you weren't with the Trump campaign yet. How does something like that happen? Do they notice how excellent you are on these hits and how you communicate very well? How does that even come to fruition?  I'd love to take that much credit. I've been an enthusiastic supporter of President Trump for a long time. I actually had the honor of serving in his White House. I was an intern in his White House press office, then had the honor of serving in his press office. And they always kind of say all roads can, you know, lead back to President Trump. And I'm so grateful to be on this team. I just think the stakes couldn't be higher for this country. And I've always thought ever since President Trump came down that escalator in 2015, that he was just the singular  force in American politics, and it's truly my honor to get to play some role in this movement that he leads so beautifully. I don't want to go to memory lane too much, but were you an intern in 2017? I was, yes. So I think we met at the White House, because I was one of five shows that was invited there, and my daughter Sam is my executive producer. We went to the White House and interviewed the president about the tax cuts that were coming up. We felt very, very honored. I know that I've seen you somewhere. I'll bet you might have been there when we were there.  You are taking me back. Oh, my gosh. I have such fond memories of our time in the White House. You know, it's everything that President Trump was able to accomplish and the great American patriots. Just such a – what an honor. What an honor. That is so great. You're taking me down memory lane. Well, good. I'm glad that we went there for a second. Now let's talk about the future.  I think Trump was going to do great anyway. I think he was going to win by a landslide anyway. And then all of a sudden, holy mackerel, not only is Joe Biden gone like you and I and like Donald Trump knew already, now the media and the Democrat Party is forced to face it. Do you shift gears at all in the campaign for Trump, knowing that everybody now knows that Joe Biden is no longer there? Or do you just keep on doing what you were doing?  Yeah, well, like you said, I mean, President Trump didn't just win that debate. He absolutely dominated it. I mean, it's like watching a UFC fighter take down just three opponents in one. You know, it's like the takedown of Joe Biden, the liberal mainstream media, and the Democrat Party, all of whom, as you have said, this isn't just the story of Joe Biden's decline. It's the story of the liberal mainstream media and Democrat Party concealing the truth from the American people. These people have known for years.  that Joe Biden was weak and incompetent and declined, as have the American people. Except the liberal mainstream media and Democrat Party have concealed that truth, saying, no, no, Joe's fine, he's sharp as a tag, he's doing cartwheels. Those same people now do not get to wake up and say, let's go, Brandon, if you know what I mean.  No, we have known the truth of Joe Biden for the last four years, as has President Trump. We couldn't be prouder to have President Trump as the leader of our party and movement. And we are full steam ahead because long before the debate to end all debates, as I call it, President Trump was already winning and winning big. And that's because he's always been on the right side of the issues most important to the American people. And the American people have known.  about, yes, Joe Biden's decline for years, but they've also come to trust President Trump's strength and command and his knowledge of the issues. And the debate was just simply another point to highlight that contrast. But we've been waiting big long before the debate to end all debates.  Caroline Sunshine, she is the Deputy Communications Director for President Trump, Trump 2024. I guess what I meant by that was, was there a definitive shift from the President when he said, holy crap, you saw what just happened last night. I knocked it out of the park.  He's gone. Instead of this, let's do this. Or is he full steam ahead, as you said, rally after rally after rally, 20, 30, 40,000 people showing up, standing room only. What's working was working. Why change it, I guess. So was there any definitive change after that night or no? Let's just keep going.  Absolutely. Let's keep going. Let's keep the Trump train going. You know, you just saw President Trump last night in Miami. I thought that was a particularly excellent rally. President Trump always brings his best. But, you know, a lot of his family members were there last night. And I think President Trump is such a family man. That's something that, you know, never gets highlighted in the literal mainstream media. But exactly. President Trump was, you know, winning big long before what ended up really being the death of Joe Biden's presidency and candidacy.  And by the way, as we've seen, it doesn't matter who the Democrats put up. It doesn't matter if they end up with Sleepy Joe or with somebody more active outside of the hours of 10 and 4 p.m. Nobody that they can put up can beat President Trump. So at this point, I just say to the Democrat Party, save yourself millions of dollars, you know, do the right thing for the country. Maybe just sit this presidential election cycle out because it's very clear who people want. And that's President Donald J. Trump.  Exactly right. Caroline Sunshine, Trump 2024 deputy communications director. Are you guys trolling us? And let me tell you what I mean. I'm on the air yesterday and all the news comes out. He's going to announce his VP tonight. And I know that Donald Trump didn't say he was going to announce the VP. I know that you didn't say it. I know Liz Harrington didn't say it. I know that others didn't say it. So I know that Caroline Leavitt didn't say it.  Are you guys leaking that out? Are you trolling us? Because everybody who's watching, when I tuned in during my show, he's talking about a million dollars to play golf against Joe Biden. So how do you think that happens? Is somebody in the media planting that seed? Is there anything to the fact that we might find out who the VP choice is before the convention or no? The liberal mainstream media planting seeds and being responsible? Joe, they would never. I'm shocked.  Well, since we're just among friends, I would tell you. No, I'm just kidding. Of course, the only person who knows who President Trump is going to pick as his vice president is President Trump. He's also the only one, by the way, who knows when he will announce it. But as you and I both know, he has a talent for making news. He does.  everybody will most certainly most certainly now but you know what i'll say this about you know his vp pick it again it couldn't be a further point of contrast we're fielding endless questions and speculation of who is president trump going to select as his vice president and just you know endless media speculation over it you contrast that with the democrat party you know are there questions or is their vp nominee going to have to replace their nominee and no matter who president trump picks he's certainly not going to select a dei hire he's going to  Select somebody who is going to be an excellent partner in helping him make America great, safe, strong, wealthy again. Because he knows how high the stakes are for our country. You know, George Clooney called the White House today. I don't know if you heard about this. George Clooney, of course, this leftist actor from Hollywood. I guess he was mad that the Biden administration said something about some organization that his wife is involved in. But allegedly, he's calling for Biden to drop out of the race. Carolyn, are you surprised as I am that some of these staunch...  boots dug into the into the dirt liberals are backing away from this guy because again they all knew it we just mentioned this they all knew it before the debate but now that the debate is out there and people that are soccer moms are working all day or doing whatever got to pay attention for an hour and a half they're all jumping ship are you surprised by some of the names that are backing their support away from joe biden  I'm not shocked because these people love power more than they love the country. And they always have. But certainly when you see, I mean, just about everybody jumping ship, everybody from George Stephanopoulos to George Clooney. These people a month ago were some of the most ardent supporters of Joe Biden, right? I mean, I think George Clooney should have to explain.  Well, if you knew back then that Joe Biden was the man in decline that we all saw on the debate stage, why did you give him $14 million? And by the way, the fundraiser that George, since we're on the topic of that fundraiser, the fundraiser that George Clooney mentioned.  There's another person who was in attendance at that fundraiser who's had a front row seat to Joe Biden's decline and who has been silent. But that's President Barack Obama, who babies that Joe Biden on that stage. So like I said, they've all known. There's nothing shocking about this. I think the only thing that is shocking is that these people have been willing to let this country go to hell in a handbasket before they have ever lifted a finger to tell the truth. And the only time they've told the truth is when it was about power, not about love of country.  Well, yeah, we were supposed to watch that video of Biden frozen and Obama grabbing him by the wrist and taking him out and patting him on the back. Come on, Joe, let's go as he sashays or shuffles off the stage. We were supposed to believe that was a cheap fake. And it was a cheap fake when Biden froze at the Juneteenth celebration amidst all these people dancing and he just was lost.  I mean, we were supposed to believe none of that was true. You and I made fake videos about it. And then they, for some reason, they put them on a stage for an hour and a half. Was President Trump, were you, was the campaign surprised that Joe Biden said he would debate? I was stunned.  Well, President Trump said he would debate him anytime, anyplace, anywhere, and he certainly made good on that promise. I guess also you saw President Trump invite him to, maybe if Joe doesn't want to debate, he'll join him in a round of golf. And I would say this, President Trump very much proved that he'll debate anytime, anyplace, anywhere. He also proved he can win anytime, anyplace, anywhere, and that includes the golf course.  According to the latest polls, Caroline, and you know this is Caroline Sunshine from the Trump campaign. According to the latest polls, President Trump's leading in every battleground state. Every one. Rather easily in some. And in fact, some historically blue states. I think New York is in play. Maybe it's my heart speaking. Maybe I'm being biased. But when he was able to, because they were dumb, they left him in New York City for six weeks. He was able to go to Harlem every day and take selfies. He was able to go to the local sandwich shop, local pizza place, local ice cream shop, and really get to know people.  You had people show up when you were allowed 3,500, I think, at the rally in the Bronx or whatever it was. And then, you know, they had to turn away 20,000 or something. You would go to New Jersey and get a million or not a million, 100,000 people show up to a rally. He might flip some blue states that we haven't seen go red since Reagan. Is that the feeling inside the campaign that you can do that?  Absolutely. I mean, you know, you look at President Trump actually said this really eloquently when he was in Philadelphia. He was asked, he said, you know, sir, why are you coming here? This isn't a place where traditional Republicans go. This was long before the debate to end all debates. And he said, you know what? It's because I've realized there is.  So much love out here and people really need hope. And that's what I'm here to do. And so you've seen President Trump go to the deep blue Bronx. You've seen him go to Detroit. You've seen him go to parts of Philadelphia that traditional Republicans don't go to. Where has Joe Biden been? Has Joe Biden been to any of those places? No, he was having to be babysat on stage at a fundraiser by Barack Obama and sequestered away at Camp David, none of which made a difference, I might add. So everybody who is abandoning Joe Biden is flocking  to President Trump. And we are seeing states that are in play, blue states that are in play for the first time in decades. And that's really a credit to President Trump and his message. He's on the right side of the issues that are most important to the American people. He was just intricately involved in putting together our party's platform. And  I love that that platform at the top of it says this platform is dedicated to the forgotten men and women of America. And President Trump has always said he hasn't said I'm gonna make the Republican Party great again. He has always said I'm gonna make America great again. He's gonna be president for all Americans. And when you look at the things that he stands for, like securing our border,  stopping the invasion that is occurring at our southern border, helping to protect our women and children from being killed by violent illegal immigrants, restoring our manufacturing base, restoring our standing on the world stage, a country we can be proud of, a country that is respected and feared. Those are things that resonate with all Americans. I also might add, you look at Joe Biden, what he's been able to do to the U.S. economy. My goodness, he makes Jimmy Carter look like a lightweight.  Whether you're black, white, or brown in this country, everybody's money's green, and nobody has enough under Joe Biden. This is why we're seeing all these groups who are traditionally part of Joe Biden's voter base, African Americans, union workers, independents, young people, women, flock to President Trump.  You know what the weirdest thing is about the economic debate, Caroline, is that the left really is looking at the camera and saying something like this. They just don't realize how good they have it. They don't realize the economic improvement they've had. And people in America are going, it doesn't matter what my race is, like you said, or my orientation is, what my gender is, or my ancestry. What matters is I can't pay my bills. What matters is my bank account has been decimated by this president.  Why do you think, and I don't want you to get into the brains of the other side's campaign because that might hurt your head, but why would they ever look at the camera and say, don't believe what you're actually living through, believe what we're saying?  These people are wildly out of touch with the American people. They always have been. These are limousine liberals. I know we all know that Joe Biden is a few French fries short of a happy meal, but these people couldn't tell you the cost of a happy meal. And by the way, a Big Mac today cost $7.49, which is an 87.7% increase from just five years ago. You go to the grocery store, try to buy a bag of barbecue chips, $6.19. You go to fill up your gas tank, $4 or $5, depending on where you are in the United States.  But these people are so out of touch. It's always rules for thee, never for me. It's the same reason they're so out of touch on any of the issues that are important to the American people, like what's going on at the southern border. These people live in gated communities. They have no idea that every town has become a border town. They are so out of touch with the American people. And it's why they really don't have, not only do they appear as not to have a candidate viable who can run, they don't have a viable platform to run. They cannot offer the American people solutions to their problems  chiefly because they are so out of touch with what the problems are to begin with these people think that americans want electric vehicle mandates no no americans don't want that they also don't want free flights and free housing for illegal immigrants they want those illegal immigrants that joe biden has welcomed into our country by the millions and who by the way he wants to give him the right to vote right as we just saw in congress they want mass deportations for illegal immigrants 62 percent of americans want that  These people have always been out of touch. They have their heads in the sand. They do not live the reality that the American people live. And it's why not only Joe Biden is unfit to serve, it's why the Democrat Party is unfit to serve.  It's Caroline Sunshine, Deputy Communications Director, Trump 2024. I appreciate the time and the access. You brought up immigration a lot, and you should, because that is the most important stateside, the most important issue, period, for Americans. But the left has done a very good job through big academia, big Hollywood, big music, big sports, big television news media. These people, academia, they all have been saying it's not that it's abortion. It's not that.