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I'm happy to have him here today and batting some issues around with us. But we've got a good one ahead. I've got Mr. Joe Brazel on the phone, District 2 County Councilman running for re-election. There's a contested race. I wanted to have him on.  Talk about it. I know we know Joe quite a bit from different things around here. If you're a Real Talk listener, you'll have seen him around at the events and gotten to know him. But I wanted to make sure we had him on and talk a little bit about his race and a couple other things going on in the county. So how are you doing today, Mr. Brazel?  I'm doing great, guys. I didn't know you were going to have Gary Schneider in there. I'm his county councilman. Did he tell you that? Yeah, we were just talking off the air. He was saying something about, you know, that you've been fine, but it's okay. You know, you could do better. No, I'm kidding. We were just talking off the air. How are you doing, Gary?  But, yeah, no, thank you so much for joining us and coming on. I know we're trying to march through, and, boy, are there so many races. But, yeah, I mean, you've been in St. Charles County, what, nearly 30 years now. Am I correct on that? Yeah, I've been in St. Charles County. Yeah, I've been a councilman for 24 years. I'm that guy. You know, I didn't know I'd ever be that guy. But, no, I'm that guy. And I believe I do a really good job. I'm very passionate about it.  And Gary can attest, you know, we live in a rural area, a beautiful area. It's the oldest wine district in the United States. There's 67 wineries from St. Charles to Herman. And this area needs to remain to be rural, at least high density. I mean, low density where it doesn't have all these small lots. And so it's been a battle. It's been a challenge. When I ran for office back in the late 90s, I got elected in 2000.  We had sued the county over density issues where they were trying to eliminate the three-acre lots and do sewage treatment plants and dump all the sewage into our creeks. And so I sued the county meeting a bunch of other people, and then we lost the lawsuit. So I ran for county council in 2001. It's been ever since. And so that's kind of how that came about.  Hmm. Well, that's, yeah, I was going to say that to me, when I look at your website and look across, it's, I see someone who understands what's going on at the county level. I see someone who understands, and I saw it on your signs too, smart growth. And that, that's really, I mean, that's one of the things Gary and I were talking about off, off, off air is, you know, New Mellie and O'Fallon. Like there's just, there are,  Huge movements as people have come into St. Charles County and making sure that it stays not only a wise growth when it comes to our county and finances, how it works, how it works together, but also to make sure that it's done in such a way that's accountable to the people. I know that's one thing that you're famous for. I heard a lot of people start talking about your name quite a bit during the COVID era.  because there were not that many voices and some of the county councils around us that were really fighting for freedom. And I think that's where people started to hear your name more, at least in some of the circles, outside of maybe who already knew the grassroots folks in St. Charles. No, that's right, Ryan. The COVID thing was the most ridiculous. You've never seen so much stupidity. And then, you know, at first, okay, let's grant it. At first, you were thinking, oh, my God, this virus, this thing is dangerous. I mean, because you didn't know.  You thought, yeah, then you start to use some critical thinking skills and you start thinking this through. And then our council meetings is like we're supposed to set six feet apart and wear a mask. I'm like, look, I'm not wearing a mask because I'm sitting six feet apart. I'm not doing them both. I mean, make up your mind. You know, I never wore one mask. And you'd walk into the courthouse and the deputies would put a thermometer on your head.  And then put a star on your shirt. I'm not kidding. And I went through the roof at one of the meetings. I said, well, you're not putting a star on our shirts. It's like Nazi Germany. We're not doing that. And you're not going to ever put that thermometer on my forehead. You don't have the right to do that. And when I'd walk in, the deputies would just let us back off and let me go around through because I didn't put up with the stupidest. And then, you know, St. Charles County was freer than, of course, St. Louis County because St. Louis County is run by a communist.  But, I mean, the thing is we were still closing down business. About two months I think we did. And they were trying that nonsense with the wineries out here and all this, closing them down when the parks were open, right? And all these people, St. Louis County parks are all closed. So all these folks would come out here from St. Louis County, hang out in our parks, which is fine. Everyone's welcome coming out and enjoying St. George County. We love it. But the fact was they're all sitting around drinking and everything. So the wineries, they made it clear, Ellman and the county councils, it's not illegal to open. These are recommendations.  So I told some of my wineries out here, I know them all. Friends, I go, open up. There's nothing we can do about it. It's perfectly legal. And so, uh, sugar Creek opened up. They had people sitting out there and there was a Karen going down to the KV trail on her bike and called the police. The police show up and they called me to owners. And I said, what the hell are the cops doing? And, and, and, oh, well, you know, I go, we never set a law. You can't make them. And so me and me and Steve had a huge argument over that one. And, uh,  And so, you know, there was pushback, I mean, from our county, but it was all behind the scenes, you know, because they're all supposed to be Republicans. But I will tell you this, Ryan, COVID showed everyone's true colors. It showed their weaknesses. It showed their monitor leftisms. And it showed all their nonsensical, stupid mindsets on this, on this, on this breaking people's freedom and constitutional rights. And that's where you saw people. And that's where you realized.  The St. Charles County and the state of Missouri, everybody runs as a Republican. But guess what? Let me tell you this. Not everyone's a Republican. They just use that branding so they get elected. Half of our county council are moderate to left, and that's a fact. And so I would rather support a Democrat. Well, I wouldn't, but I mean a Democrat that's true to his name than a Republican who lies about being a Republican. That's worse than a Democrat because you know Republicans.  And you know what you expect out of a Democrat, but you do not know what you're going to expect out of a rhino in a...  A Democrat in a Republican suit, you know, it's just it's worse than anything. You know what I mean? Absolutely. Well, I think one thing that was good about COVID, I think people really started drawing attention to the local level because for the first time ever, I think people realized, oh, my gosh, it doesn't just matter even what state I live in and how one state's quite a bit different than the other when it comes to laws, rules, taxes, regs. But holy cow, the difference between St. Louis County and what Sam Page is doing and then over here was night and day.  It was wild. I mean, I kept making jokes about, yeah, we'll have freedom rafts and we'll get you out in the middle of the night, you St. Louis County residents. We'll bring you over here to Beulah Land. It was a sharp difference that people started realizing, holy cow, it matters what county I live in. And I thought, well, yes, of course it does. But if this is what it took to wake you up to the local government being on your radar, then great. That needs to happen. So, I mean, with that in mind...  What do you think are some of the top priorities for St. Charles County, what you're specifically looking at? I know especially you've got a contested race. Obviously, you're a pretty good incumbent here with that status. But what are some of the priorities you think for us in St. Charles County coming down the pike in the next few years that you're focusing on, especially in your race and coming up on the council? Well, two things. The guy running against me is an O'Fallon alderman. And O'Fallon, all they do, the O'Fallon ones in particular, they annex ground to annex ground to annex ground.  And they build high density, high density, high density. And it's just like chipping away at our rural districts, which people are furious about that. Now, there's a group called Citizens for Smart Growth who's raised a lot of money, and they're giving a lot of pushback. I think they put up four billboards for me because they're tired of this stuff, you know. And so that's one thing that you're going to see coming down the pike. Now, what you also need to know is,  In the last two years, there's been 180% increase in apartments in St. Charles County, 180% increase. And so the high density numbers are, if you look at the numbers and they'll say, oh, it's for taxes. It ain't for taxes. An apartment unit brings in $1,600 to $2,500 a year in taxes. The census has said that every unit, every house, every apartment, whatever, has 1.8 children per kid in St. Charles County, 1.8.  It could be five, it could be zero, but it's 1.8 is what the number is. And the schools in St. Charles County is an average of $15,000 per student. It's a loser. It's a race to zero. The growth in these smaller lots and smaller, all these things can be condensed together, it's costing everyone a lot more money because of the traffic problems. We need more police. We need schools, all this stuff. And so it's not, the money just doesn't, it doesn't work.  And so we need to control the growth, and we need to follow our 2030-2040 master plan. That's required by state law to submit a master plan so you can control the infrastructure and the load on your resources. And O'Fallon and Winchell often break these master plans that the county sets up and submits to the state. That's what happens all the time. And so we've got to have controlled growth, smart growth,  And then we'd have to focus on law enforcement. We have to have law and order in our county. For the most part, we do. We have a really good police department. We have good municipal police departments. We've got a good prosecutor and his prosecutor's office. So for the most part, we have really good law and order. We got to control our illegal immigrations, uh, stuff like that. And so, and try to get rid of some of our, our lefties on the kind of council, you know, we, we had an immigration resolution come before us because of, uh, Mary Sherrod Jones wanted to bring all these, uh, illegals in from Chicago.  And do you know that our county council, our Republican county council, wouldn't pass it? I mean, it's unbelievable. And so there were some of us, there were two or two of us that supported out of one wasn't there. Out of seven, we had two yes votes. Unbelievable. And that's the kind of stuff we need to work on and stuff like that.  Well, with the controlled growth talk that you're having, and yeah, sure, come, but let's do it reasonably. It sounds like we need to put you in charge of U.S. immigration. This is the kind of plan we need when it comes to our immigration policies. If you, me, and Gary Schneider run the country, we'd be in better shape in six months, baby. I'm telling you right now. I believe it. We'd whip us, whip it up real good. I ain't kidding you, man. Just make executive decisions fairly with Christ in mind.  And it would be the right way to go every time. Right, Gary? Well, I just say just be truthful in what you say. Do what you say. And we talked about that integrity.  Yeah, integrity. Well, Joe, let me ask you something specific here, because I have, you know, I've told my listeners several times as I've gone really just headfirst back into Missouri and local politics. I've been in the national stuff for a long time now with with my work with the Phyllis Schlafly organizations. But as I've taken that dive in, you know, I came back into St. Charles County and realized that there was some sort of kerfuffle that I missed over election integrity and voting machines in St. Charles County.  But I think, if I'm not mistaken, you were somewhere in that. Could you give me a rundown of when the last few years with Kurt Barr and the election authority and some different things have happened, what really went on, and are there election concerns in our county that you have? I am so glad you brought that up. I want everybody to go home and watch this documentary that just came out last week. It's called Cut the Election Wires in St. Charles County. It's on YouTube. It's 30 minutes. And after you watch that, you're going to say,  what the hell is going on around here? You got Kurt Barshain, he cut the wires. We broke the seals and we cut the wires. And he said it seven times. It's on video, it's on tape, which is a felony when you break a seal on a voting machine and then you cut the wires. Then I asked to send an FOI, a freedom of information on, okay, give us, then he said, there's a phone call tape that has him on there and he's screaming at me, him, because I called him out. I said, you cut the wires, you said seven times.  I lied. I lied. I never cut the wires. I go, you're lying now. I mean, how do I know? I don't know. You're not lying. If you're lying then you're always lying. I mean, you know, if you're once a liar, you're always a liar. Right. So I just, I just, you got to watch that videotape because so at the April election, there was an April election and a lot of the most, all not say all the conservative school boards lost. Now,  I just texted him, and I said, Kurt, the numbers were fishy because he's got no-excuse absentee ballot. He's got no-excuse absentee ballot voting. That's not required by state. It's offered to you, and the election authority has a jurisdictional duty to do it or not do it. He put out signs, no-excuse absentee ballot. What kind of Republican does that? So if you follow the 1% or 2% when the votes come in, those are all the absentee ballots that go in first.  So those are like all the moderate to left. Let's just say this for an example, that there's 1,000 more votes than the conservative candidates all across the board on all the absentee ballots. You follow that number through to the end, and they're winning by 1,000 votes. You've got to ask yourself, is that statistically possible? Is that statistically possible that you have so many more people voting that are moderate to left than right? I mean, does that make any sense? I mean, isn't that worth a question?  And so I texted him that night on April, and I said, Kurt, those numbers are very funny. And plus, it was 9 o'clock in the vote. He wasn't even on 30% or whatever the numbers were. In the olden days, you would have your results by 9 o'clock, okay? And so I said, this seems very strange. I said, you keep this kind of stuff up, and you and Mark are in prison. That's what I said. I've been telling him that for two years. He does a cease and desist on me. He sends me this big letter and puts it on the news.  She's in a Swiss councilman, Brussels, bullying the election authority. Bullying? I ain't bullying no one. I'm just telling you the facts. I'm not back. I didn't back down because  I can say that to you, and I'm just saying these are very questionable results, and we've got to have some questions. And then the newspaper's like, oh, all this nonsense. It was ridiculous. Kurt Barth had a lot of around and around for years. Okay. Well, I was going to say this is something I have just begun to start looking into, and I want to kind of figure out what's going on, and I appreciate your insight on that. Remind folks where they can look you up here in the final couple days as they're making their little election cheat sheets.  CitizensForJoeBrazel.com. And I'll be at the rodeo tonight at the Billy Bush Rodeo. Me and Ander and some other folks are going to be there, and we're going to open the ceremony, me and Bob Ander, with the pledge and that sort of thing. So it'll be fun. There you go. That's the Billy Bush Rodeo tonight at 7 o'clock. Okay. Thank you so much. Joe Brazel, District 2, St. Charles County Council. We appreciate your time, sir. All the best in your election. All right, folks. We'll be right back. You're on The Reckoning on the Real Talk Radio Network.  Dream travel, exciting and new. At Archer Luxury Travel, they're expecting you. 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And it's easy to, you know, I get in and sink into a lot of the, oh, the bad things that are happening, beating up on Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and the horrible things they've done and how we need to change it. All of that is true. It is so very true. But also.  We have got to have a plan ourselves. We have to have values that we stand for, not just things that we stand against. And to be able to say, this is what we ought to do. This is the kind of legislator and the kind of county councilman and the kind of governor and the kind, fill in the blank, whatever office it is, this is the kind of person that we should be installing in office to lead because they understand transparency, they understand accountability, they understand humility,  These are the values that we absolutely must put back.  into public office at every level and when you find folks who are willing to get out there and do the work uh... like uh... gary and uh... and and you know brian dawson from brian dawson roofing tom and penny kent to making sure that we're able to power up here uh... the tilted skillet the five fourteen though those are the kind of folks who i i'm so happy to do business with because i know that they're supporting not just one political side or another but they're really they care about the nation and they know what's at stake and they know that we need to talk about the truth  That's why I love digging into all the different things that we can get into here. I know I was talking to Joe Brazel on the other side about his race for District 2. He's been around for quite a while here in St. Charles County. There's that, but then I thought this is an opportunity like  If we're going to continue to talk about elections, I want to open all of these questions. I want to hear the discussion. I want to talk about both sides. We had a good roundtable last night with a bunch of our St. Charles GOP committee members, the central committee members. I want to start to have these conversations across the board because it is so important for each and every one of us to get more involved.  Frankly, the reason we are where we are in this country is because so many of us, and I'm not pointing fingers at you or me specifically, but so many of us, we have not been engaged. A lot of our friends and family and neighbors and coworkers and fellow churchgoers in your church community, they haven't been engaged.  And some of that's been by design. They've been pulled away. They've been distracted. They've been convinced it's a dirty process. You shouldn't bother or you vote. Your vote doesn't matter. It's just one vote, whatever it is. Or if they've just gotten distracted in our modern Netflix culture, whatever it is, people have disengaged and we must reengage.  If far more of us than there are now doing this work in politics, talking about it, sending out mailers, going to some meetings, walking some doors once in a while for a candidate, doing some phone banking, actually being diligent with writing down our choices and sending it around to friends and family. If more people did this, more would change. And I think at the end of the day, there'd be a little bit less work for some of us who are just involved at every level over and over again all the time.  That's what we need. We need more people doing more. And then guess what? If we all just did a little bit, this would be a whole different ballgame. 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Um, hopefully we're headed down there next weekend. I think you wish it was this weekend. You could wish it was every weekend, but we can't all have what we want now. Can we folks? Although I saw lunch today over at the tilted was the cowboy burger that just got me excited. And, and I, I, I didn't almost drive down there, but I didn't not almost drive down there. Let me put it that way. I didn't not almost drive down there.  When I saw the Cowboy Burger, and there wasn't even a picture of it. It was just the description. But the Tilted Skillet or the 514 who was tempting us last night with a wild New Orleans chicken that just had an incredible Cajun feel to it that made me excited. But to see all of that together and remind yourself, hey, this is a place where you're going to get treated well. You're going to be served well. 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