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Do they notice how excellent you are on these hits and how you communicate very well? How does that even come to fruition?  I'd love to take that much credit. I've been an enthusiastic supporter of President Trump for a long time. I actually had the honor of serving in his White House. I was an intern in his White House press office, then had the honor of serving in his press office. And they always kind of say all roads can, you know, lead back to President Trump. And I'm so grateful to be on this team. I just think the stakes couldn't be higher for this country. And I've always thought ever since President Trump came down that escalator in 2015, that he was just the singular  force in american politics and it's really my honor to get to play some role in in this movement that he needs so so beautifully i don't want to go to memory lane too much but were you an intern in twenty seventeen i was yes so i think we met at the white house because i was one of five shows that was invited there and my daughter sam is my executive producer we went to the white house and interviewed the president about the tax cuts that were coming up we felt very very honored i know that i've seen you somewhere i'll bet you might have been there when we were there  You are taking me back. Oh, my gosh. I have such fond memories of our time in the White House. You know, just everything that President Trump was able to accomplish and the great American patriots. Just such a, what an honor. What an honor. That is so great. You're taking me down memory lane. Well, good. I'm glad that we went there for a second. Now let's talk about the future.  I think Trump was going to do great anyway. I think he was going to win by a landslide anyway. And then all of a sudden, holy mackerel, not only is Joe Biden gone like you and I and like Donald Trump knew already, now the media and the Democrat Party is forced to face it. Do you shift gears at all in the campaign for Trump, knowing that everybody now knows that Joe Biden is no longer there? Or do you just keep on doing what you were doing?  yeah well like you said i mean president just win that debate he absolutely dominated it i mean it's like watching a ufc fighter take down just three opponents in one you know it's like the takedown of joe biden the liberal mainstream media and the democrat party all of whom as you have said this isn't just the story of joe biden's decline it's the story of the liberal mainstream media and democrat party concealing the truth from the american people these people have known for years that joe biden was weak and incompetent and declined as have the american people  Except the liberal mainstream media and Democrat Party have concealed that truth saying, no, no, Joe's fine. He's sharp as a tack. He's doing cartwheels. Those same people now do not get to wake up and say, let's go, Brandon, if you know what I mean. But no, we have known the truth of Joe Biden for the last four years, as has President Trump. We couldn't be prouder to have President Trump as the leader of our party and movement and  we are full steam ahead because long before the debate to end all debates, as I call it, President Trump was already winning and winning big. And that's because he's always been on the right side of the issues most important to the American people. And the American people have known about, yes, Joe Biden's decline for years, but they've also come to trust President Trump's  strength and command and his knowledge of the issues and and you know when you get the debate was just simply another point to highlight that highlight that contrast but we've been waiting big long before the debate to end all debates caroline sunshine she is the deputy um communications director for president trump trump 2024  I guess what I meant by that was, was there a definitive shift from the president when he said, holy crap, you saw what just happened last night. I knocked it out of the park. He's gone. Instead of this, let's do this. Or is he full steam ahead, as you said, rally after rally after rally, 20, 30, 40,000 people showing up, standing room only. What's working was working. Why change it, I guess. So was there any definitive change after that night? Or no, let's just keep going.  Absolutely. Let's keep going. Let's keep the Trump train going. You know, you just saw President Trump last night in Miami. I thought that was a particularly excellent rally. President Trump always brings his best. But, you know, a lot of his family members were there last night. And I think President Trump is such a family man. That's something that, you know, never gets highlighted in the liberal mainstream media. But exactly. President Trump was winning big long before what ended up really being the death of Joe Biden's presidency and candidacy.  And by the way, as we've seen, it doesn't matter who the Democrats put up. It doesn't matter if they end up with Sleepy Joe or with somebody more active outside of the hours of 10 and 4 p.m. Nobody that they can put up can beat President Trump. So at this point, I just say to the Democrat Party, save yourself millions of dollars. You know, do the right thing for the country. Maybe just sit this presidential election cycle out because it's very clear who people want. And that's President Donald J. Trump.  Exactly right. Caroline Sunshine, Trump 2024 Deputy Communications Director. Are you guys trolling us? And let me tell you what I mean. I'm on the air yesterday and all the news comes out. He's going to announce his VP tonight. And I know that Donald Trump didn't say he was going to announce the VP. I know that you didn't say it. I know Liz Harrington didn't say it. I know that others didn't say it. So I know that Caroline Leavitt didn't say it.  Are you guys leaking that out? Are you trolling us? Because everybody who's watching, when I tuned in during my show, he's talking about a million dollars to play golf against Joe Biden. So how do you think that happens? Is somebody in the media planting that seed? Is there anything to the fact that we might find out who the VP choice is before the convention or no? The liberal mainstream media planting seeds and being responsible? Joe, they would never. I'm shocked. Never.  Well, since we're just among friends, I would tell you. No, I'm just kidding. Of course, the only person who knows who President Trump is going to pick as his vice president is President Trump. He's also the only one, by the way, who knows when he will announce it. But as you and I both know, he has a talent for making news. He does. Everybody will most certainly know. But you know what? I'll say this about his VP pick. Again, it could be a further point of contrast. We're fielding endless questions and speculation of...  Who is President Trump going to select as his vice president? Just endless media speculation over it. You contrast that with the Democrat Party. Are there questions? Or is their VP nominee going to have to replace their nominee? And no matter who President Trump picks, he's certainly not going to select a DEI hire. He's going to select somebody who is going to be an excellent partner in helping him make America great, safe, strong, wealthy again, because he knows how high the stakes are for our country.  You know, George Clooney called the White House today. I don't know if you heard about this. George Clooney, of course, this leftist actor from Hollywood. I guess he was mad that the Biden administration said something about some organization that his wife is involved in. But allegedly, he's calling for Biden to drop out of the race.  Carolyn, are you surprised as I am that some of these staunch, boots dug into the dirt liberals are backing away from this guy? Because, again, they all knew it. We just mentioned this. They all knew it before the debate. But now that the debate is out there and people that are soccer moms are working all day or doing whatever, got to pay attention for an hour and a half, they're all jumping ship. Are you surprised by some of the names that are backing their support away from Joe Biden?  I'm not shocked because these people love power more than they love the country. And they always have. But certainly when you see, I mean, just about everybody jumping ship, everybody from George Stephanopoulos to George Clooney, these people a month ago were some of the most ardent supporters of Joe Biden, right? I mean, I think George Clooney should have to explain.  Well, if you knew back then that Joe Biden was the man in decline that we all saw on the debate stage, why did you give him $14 million? And by the way, the fundraiser that George, since we're on the topic of that fundraiser, the fundraiser that George Clooney mentioned  There's another person who was in attendance at that fundraiser who's had a front row seat to Joe Biden's decline and who has been silent. But that's President Barack Obama, who was the one who babysat Joe Biden on that stage. So like I said, they've all known. There's nothing shocking about this. I think the only thing that is shocking is that these people have been willing to let this country go to hell in a handbasket before they have ever lifted a finger to tell the truth. And the only time they've told the truth is when it was about power, not about love of country.  We were supposed to watch that video of Biden frozen and Obama grabbing him by the wrist and taking him out and patting him on the back. Come on, Joe, let's go as he sashays or shuffles off the stage. We were supposed to believe that was a cheap fake. And it was a cheap fake when Biden froze at the Juneteenth celebration amidst all these people dancing and he just was lost. I mean, we were supposed to believe none of that was true. You and I made fake videos about it. And then they, for some reason, they put him on a stage for an hour and a half.  Was President Trump, were you, was the campaign surprised that Joe Biden said he would debate? I was stunned.  Well, President Trump said he would debate him anytime, anyplace, anywhere, and he certainly made good on that promise. I guess also you saw President Trump invite him to, maybe if Joe doesn't want to debate, he'll join him in a round of golf. And I would say this, President Trump very much proved that he'll debate anytime, anyplace, anywhere. He also proved he can win anytime, anyplace, anywhere, and that includes the golf course.  According to the latest polls, Caroline, and you know this is Caroline Sunshine from the Trump campaign. According to the latest polls, President Trump's leading in every battleground state. Every one. Rather easily in some. And in fact, some historically blue states. I think New York is in play. Maybe it's my heart speaking. Maybe I'm being biased.  But when he was able to, because they were dumb, they left him in New York City for six weeks, he was able to go to Harlem every day and take selfies. He was able to go to the local sandwich shop, the local pizza place, the local ice cream shop, and really get to know people. You had people show up when you were allowed 3,500, I think, at the rally in the Bronx or whatever it was. And then they had to turn away 20,000 or something. You would go to New Jersey and get a million, or not a million, 100,000 people show up to a rally. He might flip some blue states that we haven't seen go red since Reagan. Is that the feeling inside the campaign that you can do that?  Thank you.  Absolutely. I mean, you know, you look at President Trump actually said this really eloquently when he was in Philadelphia. He was asked, he said, you know, sir, why are you coming here? This isn't a place where traditional Republicans go. This was long before the debate to end all debates. And he said, you know what? It's because I've realized there is so much love out here and people really need hope. And that's what I'm here to do. And so you've seen President Trump go to the deep blue Bronx. You've seen him go to Detroit. You've seen him go to parts of Philadelphia that traditional Republicans don't go to.  Where has Joe Biden been? Has Joe Biden been to any of those places? No, he was having to be babysat on stage at a fundraiser by Barack Obama and sequestered away at Camp David, none of which made a difference, I might add. So everybody who is abandoning Joe Biden is flocking to President Trump. And we are seeing states that are in play, blue states that are in play for the first time in decades.  That's really a credit to President Trump and his message. He's on the right side of the issues that are most important to the American people. He was just intricately involved in putting together our party's platform. And I love that that platform at the top of it says this platform is dedicated to the forgotten men and women of America. And President Trump has always said, he hasn't said, I'm going to make the Republican Party great again. He has always said, I'm going to make America great again. He's going to be president for all Americans. And when you look at the things that he stands for, like securing our border,  stopping the invasion that is occurring at our southern border helping to protect our women and children from being killed by violent illegal immigrants restoring our manufacturing base restoring our standing on the world stage a country we can be proud of a country that is respected and feared those are things that resonate with all americans i also might add you look at you know joe biden what he's been able to do to the u.s economy my goodness he makes jimmy carter look like a lightweight  Whether you're black, white, or brown in this country, everybody's money's green, and nobody has enough under Joe Biden. So that's why we're seeing all these groups who are traditionally part of Joe Biden's voter base, African-Americans, union workers, independents, young people, women, flock to President Trump.  You know what the weirdest thing is about the economic debate, Caroline? Is that the left really is looking at the camera and saying something like this. They just don't realize how good they have it. They don't realize the economic improvement they've had. And people in America are going, it doesn't matter what my race is, like you said, or what my orientation is, what my gender is, or my ancestry. What matters is I can't pay my bills. What matters is my bank account has been decimated by this president.  Why do you think, and I don't want you to get into the brains of the other side's campaign because that might hurt your head, but why would they ever look at the camera and say, don't believe what you're actually living through, believe what we're saying?  these people are wildly out of touch with the american people they always happen these are limousine liberals i know we all know that joe biden is a few french fries short of a happy meal but these people couldn't tell you the cost of a happy meal and by the way a big mac today cost seven dollars and 49 cents which is an 87.7 increase from just five years ago you go to the grocery store try to buy a bag of barbecue chips six dollars and 19 cents you go to fill up your your gas tank  four or five dollars depending on where you are in the United States but these people are so out of touch it's always rules for thee never for me it's the same reason they're so out of touch on any of the issues that are important to the American people like what's going on at the southern border these people live in gated communities  they have no idea that every town has become a border town. They are so out of touch with the American people and it's why they really don't have, not only do they appear as not to have a candidate viable who can run, they don't have a viable platform to run. They cannot offer the American people solutions to their problems  chiefly because they are so out of touch with what the problems are to begin with. These people think that Americans want electric vehicle mandates. No, no, no. Americans don't want that. They also don't want free flights and free housing for illegal immigrants. They want those illegal immigrants that Joe Biden has welcomed into our country by the millions, and who, by the way, he wants to give them the right to vote, right, as we just saw in Congress. They want mass deportations for illegal immigrants. 62% of Americans want that.  So these people have always been out of touch. They have their heads in the sand. They do not live the reality that the American people live. And it's why not only Joe Biden is unfit to serve, it's why the Democrat Party is unfit to serve.  It's Caroline Sunshine, Deputy Communications Director, Trump 2024. I appreciate the time and the access. You brought up immigration a lot, and you should, because that is the most important stateside, the most important issue, period, for Americans. But the left has done a very good job through big academia, big Hollywood, big music, big sports, big television news media. These people, academia, they all have been saying, it's not that, it's abortion.  It's not that it's some other, you know, issue that they think they have an upper hand on Trump. As somebody in the campaign, do you have to see what they're doing and react? Or just, as I said earlier, keep on doing what you're doing? You're right. Immigration is the most, it's the existential threat, if you don't mind. They always say that word. But it's the biggest threat to our democracy, to our representative republic. It's the biggest threat to our future. It's the biggest threat to our way of life, Western culture, all of that stuff. It is the most important issue. They've done a really good job, though, Carolina, of trying to change the topic.  Do you have to adjust to that as a campaign or not? Well, I would say if we don't have a border, we don't have a nation. And if they want to talk about being pro-life or pro-choice, I'm happy to talk about being pro-life all day long. You cannot be pro-open border and be pro-life and be pro-women and be pro-children. As we have seen, millions of illegal immigrants come across our southern border. Look at who the victims of most of those violent crimes have been.  they've been very vulnerable women and children so if we want to talk about empowering women protecting women protecting life we absolutely have to talk about securing our border and i think that's what women want women don't like weak men uh they want a strong leader like president trump women understand that weakness invites chaos and danger and once again that's why like you said immigration is the number one issue uh for for a reason and it's an issue that has long been overlooked and intentionally ignored  by the Democrat Party, who once again is so out of touch with where millions of Americans are at on a host of issues, not just that one.  Go follow her on social media. It's Caroline Sunshine with the Trump campaign. Last question, sort of tongue-in-cheek. Again, I saw the president yesterday vamping away from the teleprompter, which I love when he does that. And he offered up a million dollars to Joe Biden's favorite charity should Biden beat him in a golf match. I mean, Trump is now playing. He's a real golfer. He's a very good golfer. And Biden, of course, lied about a sex handicap or a nine handicap or something. Trump said he'd give him 20 strokes. I mean, would it freak you out if somebody from the Biden campaign said, yeah, let's do it?  Look at my face, Joe. Does it look like it would pick me up? Come on. Give me a break. President Trump checked Joe Biden in real time on the database. He said, Joe, you have told so many lies tonight, but the biggest one is that you have a six handicap in golf. Give me a break. I mean, if Joe Biden has a six handicap in golf, I'm a Democrat, okay? So give me a break. Well, then it's guaranteed that he doesn't have a six handicap then. It's Caroline Sunshine, Deputy Communications Director, Trump 2024. Love having you on. Come back again soon, would you?  Thank you so much. Thank you. I will. 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