It's very difficult to determine how much yield loss you could suffer without having an untreated check beside it, but there's enough damage here you are having some yield reduction, so you need to get on top of this pretty quick. &amp;gt;&amp;gt;Yeah, so we can use a pyrethroid and that will help knock them down, but we still want to stay on top of our fungicide sprays, our soil borne fungicide sprays, even though it's dry. &amp;gt;&amp;gt;That's right, and it's an excellent point, RJ, because what you got is dry conditions, the organisms are still in the soil. 