Alice is a 32 year old, single, unemployed caucasian woman and she comes to a session following a fight with her boyfriend and expressing suicidal ideation, including a specific plan that she is reluctant to share and that's what she's coming in with and we'll go on for about 20 minutes and then we are gonna go to have discussion we gonna switch and then we'll have Alan come up and have a DBT demonstration and then we'll have both of our two experts comment a bit on how what they did illustrates their therapies, for these two different orientations 