But I think, as years have gone by and particularly as we get into this much more complex world, that I think the IGF exemplifies, it's become more and more important to talk about our values, to have people understand what we as an organization are and I think it's -- it can be said fairly reliably -- that movements and organizations that actually have values and vision to express are generally more successful than those that go from day to day on a -- just knowing simply what they do and how they do it. 