Never and you know them in Afghanistan and Pakistan and you know them in Algeria and Algeria knows them they have been in their countries for many years and the Algerian army is fighting them and you know them in Somalia and you know that these terrorist groups don't have any values and don't recognize any of these things like the international law or cease fire or truce or negotiations or talks or dialogue they don't believe in these and they don't believe in democracy, they consider it blasphemy ok, Libya welcomes a cease fire and has agreed to a cease fire on numerous occasions and is prepared at this moment in time to agree to a cease fire but it is impossible to have a one sided cease fire 