light and i think in a word to maintain a neutral balance healthy balance you need the extremes if you don't have the extremes then you're almost the place and those two extremes creek equilibrium and that equilibrium allows you to stay in the center so uh... you know the fed is asian america or savior of the male equivalent when that comes about all those things are just the extremes they're going to let us co-exist in the middle the number one question i get from outsiders is isn't what you do manipulative isn't it tricking women isn't that evil is not bad uh... and i could see it the way because it with the marine corps if you're an outsider in drink whatever phrase actually marines but says two people know marines marines and the enemy everyone else is a second opinion it's kind of the same way in the community where depending on your viewpoint educator look evil or it could look like agree great catalyst for change and the men's movement 