So, it's really good to see that sort of activity there. but I wanted to say a little bit more about a couple of specific things that people have said about the definition. so the first point that seemed to come up in a few different places and I thought was really interesting was the question of whether or not the activity of actually thinking about things counts as philosophy itself. so the thought there to back up a little bit is, if philosophy is just working out how to think about things, then where does that leave the actual thinking about things that we do actually works, done the working out, right? 