I became a student of the universe with the ambition of, one day, being one of its participants in research on the frontier of cosmic discovery and that ambition that inculcation stayed with me the whole time to the point where when you become an astrophysicist when you become a scientist at all here is what I'm putting back to you because what we used to do, and I regret it a little bit is you would go on pilgrimages to mountains tops because that's where your telescopes are 