In the Platner story, somebody has a, a chemical accident, and because of this chemical accident, a kind of green miasma rises before him and he winds up walking throug h it, and he's down a ramp, and he's into this strange other worldly place, and in that other worldly place he sees, among others, his dead parents, and he, he gawks up to them and he, he walks right through them, they don't see that he's there. 