like these guys over here coding along in binary someone shows them assembly language someone shows them fortran this they can't even see it it just goes right over their head because they know what they're doing they know what programming is this is programming that's not programming and so they totally miss out on this much more powerful way of thinking so the message of this talk you know it's not really it's not really the stuff right the message on his talk is if you don't want to be this guy if you want to be open and receptive to new ways of thinking to invent new ways of thinking 