Yeah, one of the things that some of the listeners might be interested in is a friend of mine who isn't even a student here, named Derek Mean and he uses computers for his undergrad and he's going to be going to graduate school soon and he's blind so he uses JAWS and so he walked through about all the windows that he had to go back and forth with in order to just quote something in an article so it's really does a good job of demonstrating how long that process takes. 