But what I want to have you convinced of by the end of this talk is not only that we can learn a lot more from Cairo than we can from Singapore, but that our failure to see waste the way they do there is part of the way in which we're falling behind in the West, and that a lot of the most dynamic things that are happening in the world of waste today are happening in the developing world, and especially in China, by people who aren't environmentalists. 