And I thought, "Gee that ties in really nicely, I'll go and see what Ingrid's got to say about it", and then when I was here on the night and heard her talk and I thought she was very refreshing and very genuine and warm and a fantastic presentation, I just thought, some of, because it was actually in many ways a very general presentation I thought I might have something to add, maybe, to link it back more specifically to what it is we do as interpreters and so, the goal really was to try and, um, certainly not replicate anything that Ingrid said, and I know some of you weren't there and that's fine too. 