Pale , cold, clammy, yes, this is the opposite, you've got all the signs and symptoms here of a stroke, now if, this could go on with and erm if somebody, if something isn't done very quickly with this compression the person has still got this bleed, or clot in the head and eventually they just kind of all come up into the foetus position, literally all goes spastic, all these spastic movements  right, you finished writing?