I feel er something of a stranger walking in on the Maastricht reunion er annual dinner er at the er  I have to say that erm I er wouldn't wish to cross swords with the honourable gentleman on the detail of the Maastricht bill but certainly  but certainly I 'ave to say that for many people and maybe even some people on this own side who may be prepared to admit it, the  false divide between Euro sceptics and Euro fanatics is one that doesn't appeal to the new generations of members and I suspect on both sides of the house, we are in our considered view in Europe and we need to make the best of it and treat Europe on its merits rather than re-live the battles of the er late seventies and early eighties.