She's a very conceited woman, Pete  the adulterous told me she was a very conceited woman  and  er Neil says I I I'd have to talk to him to him about this, she couldn't discuss anything with him  she would lay down the law, that was how it had to be  and I said no  I said Gerry and I, I had no hesitation, as I said, in putting the boot in  and Brenda and Dave  take the same the attitude to children  that  you let them  first of all when they're small, you have to tell them no  like you do not 