And course we're doing a lot of counting today  this wrist  is a  you know  I don't mind that  you see  what did that wrist was  that elbow I had to have a second operation on it,in the arm up here  because er  I had to have some bone taken away in the elbow  course it stretched  guiders  but they also  erm  disturbed the wrist joint  because it was in plaster like that stretched round  and disturbed the wrist joint  and I ke it's it weakened it  and it's only just  it's only just this  what  last nine months that it's  that it's really started to effect this   but I know what it is  that's because I keep going out doing the odd  jobs