I mean for example if they walked in the room right now I'm sure you'd introduce me  so I'm really saying is look can you give me a telephone number, I'll give them a chat and in fact, by the way, if you do see him within the next couple of days or so please give him a shout, let me know that you've been quite excited about some of the ideas that I've shown you this evening, I wanna do the same thing for him, you know, nothing gained nothing ventured nothing lost.