anyway the girl said well I'll ring first to see where you get your application form she, and the, Sue  phoned and was on the other end and I said oh you should apparently you've got have erm, er, application form and Mrs  going to send you one, I said is that Mrs  on the line she said is that Mrs  speaking, she said yeah, I said will you tell it's Mrs  she said oh, well, tell Mrs  she's no need to apply I've got all her details and she is being looked at, you know, we are looking into it  anyway erm, as I say I had this letter just after Christmas to say that there was a job coming up at the Mencap at Wellingborough Road, Rushden, and I was being selected and erm would I go up for the informal interview on the Monday and the formal interview at the hospital the next morning, so I went up got the first person there and er she, she, it's a new, it's an old house but they've done it all up and there all papers on the floor and then she said oh I think I'll pick these up Ir Irene, I said oh call me Joy everybody does and she said alright, OK, I said oh I'll help you so of course I said, I went straight down with her on the floor picking all these papers up and she, and when the next person come she said poor old Joy ain't even got in the door and that's it, she's already working and she said I can see you're like me Joy you'll do a job when you see it's gotta be done, I said I've always been the same, I can't, I can't see a spoon or a bit of paper laying on the floor