Yes, though it's interesting with, with, with things like er  alcohol and tobacco because they're, well at least partly legal, erm you know often there's quite a, a crisp Manichaean division drawn between them and anything that's illegal erm you know so that you know kind of once, once you start smoking dope you're on the slippery slope to er you know kind of  heroin and crack and all the rest of it 