Er i this is why it's important that you mix with people, that you get out and about, because if you find that everybody else is, is getting up the hill faster than you and everybody else is crossing the roads quicker than you and all the rest of it, it should tell you something, now I mean I don't even want to go into competition but I think it is good occasionally to see if you can walk as fast as that eighteen year old in front of you.