Vince has has raised a point about er  erm, informing er and consulting local people and  to let local people  know  erm  when the meetings are then local can't go, I'm sure that  if they really wanted people to come they'd make it much more  er, in  erm  with the advertising so clear that er people would be able to  and also if they had it at the times when  a their meeting  at the times when it was  mostly convenient to  er, the general public.