And they had a strap and they used to carry all the weight on their foreheads and on, and through their necks, and they used to climb, we went up to seventeen and a half thousand feet, and they climbed up with all these bags and they cooked for us and they got river water for us and sometimes they had to walk a kilometre to the river  to go and get the water and then carry it back again er with the band around their heads  and so  initially it seemed quite difficult to accept them doing this for you, but for them it was a job  and erm it was probably the only sort of job that they could get.