Erm and she was from the Pentiford area I think, erm  oh quite a well educated girl, erm there was nothing to stop them from joining, I mean the London Fire Brigade there are, are fire fighters who are girls, erm and the er they do very well erm there are problems of course, with, with women on fire stations, but nevertheless there's no reason why they shouldn't be there, providing they can do the job and I'm sure those who read the papers and see the news know that in Russia and places like that, women do the, do the job very well.