The leader as always is er is a directive agency, the leader  as it were erm  takes over the individual self-determination by erm effectively telling  telling the good what to do erm  how can this er  does this have to be in  in one direction only I mean one gets the feelings very often you know you see things in the newspaper crowd hysteria and so on, erm do crowds always have to become kind of primitive and regressed or  or can leaders influence them in other directions?