but I mean they work on a sort of cash basis  and er the lorries just drive up, get loaded up, course you just have to queue, he said if you get behind six or seven lorries  by the time you've got your load  then you've got to get back to where your doing the job, then you've only got about two or three hours daylight left, this is why these, these obviously go round there, say do three or four in one area and you get one load get it out get the job done, you know, and when his paid out cash  that time of the morning they  the don't care  you have to pay 