but then, is, does it not, the next point then does not er what Mr  say have relevant cause, because if there is this risk which in the purposes of the argument rule, start if you like as a wheel and not a, a, a, a, a fanciful risk, the reasons yourself just put forward, er then it must follow that there is a risk, er that erm the members agents will not be able to call on names to provide the funds