Cassock and surplice, a black cassock and white surplice once  I told you that my grandmother was once living with us, she used to delight in washing my surplice and ironing it up  except me when I was singing in the choir, I didn't take a, the treble solos, that was after the choir used to sister of ours at least oh twenty men, and as many lads and youths the  as I say Johnny  was in the choir there was er the two  brothers and there was Dick  was a  incense boy and his father was a manager to go in the, he used to have a red cassock and surplice, but he used to  Dick  's dad was the incense swinger and they used to go about swinging incense and that, I don't suppose they do that at all now, but er your first job as a choirboy was to pump the organ it, have you ever been in the church?