I don't know, I felt that was, I mean, erm it's so easy to be snobbish, but if the problems of experimentation that comes out of accident because you want to achieve an accident and you want to achieve the fall of things on the page, and the accident that occurs because, as you say, nobody's ever told you that you're not supposed to do that, so the accident isn't a case of reacting against a rule to test it, to see whether it would stand up to being broken, the one that's just happened I think, I 