it's same with a Samsung, I end up sometimes putting it in the Toshiba one, to re-wind it back, but I've had some funny tapes I have just lately, it's the tape that won't re-wind, because how I've noticed been the tape like, cos I've put it in the Toshiba and re-wound, but it wouldn't even re-wind in the Toshiba, so Arthur says well he says that's the tapes