Oh he came from an old, I think he came from a very old er, there was, there was a General ,first world war, erm, well the last time I heard anything about Cake, well, he was, he'd, he'd left the Signals section, he was the  when I left India, and the last time I heard anything about him, I read it in, in a paper in erm, when the  troubles were on and he was brig brigadier in charge of an infantry brigade, about my age, well, a, probably a year or two older than me, cos he was a, yeah he was a lieutenant when I got out there a full lieutenant, so he must of been a captain.