For those reasons as I, have I, hoped made plain, it seems to me that the general scheme provided by Mrs  is the one that ought to be adopted, however in my view when Mrs  also makes provision for a second carer for some three hours a day that is well over egging the pudding, if I may adopt a phrase used by Mr  at one stage during the case , I feel sure that in practice the two resident carers would not simply say well I'm on duty from eight am on Monday till twelve midday on Thursday and I shall do nothing during the rest of the week, I think that living in the household for, at