Er Ministers are often in a very grave difficulty these days, if they don't listen er er they're accused o o of being autocratic,i i if they do listen, er then they're accused of making u-turns, well even the gathering swine didn't have to make a u-turn, a change of direction would have been quite sufficient and I welcome the change of direction which the Home Secretary ha has made erm the objectives of this Bill are I think to be commended, but it is be perfectly clear from the outset that you can't combat crime by antagonising everyone concerned with the enforcement of law and order, the police authorities, the police and the magistrates.