Erm  Eric in, in Manchester from where he comes is extremely well known  obviously within the G M B  but his record he's one of the individuals in the trade union movement that I think are becoming somewhat of a rarity these days  I know that many of us when we first started in the movement were very easily able, and, and very relaxed about combining trade union and political activities together  but of course as time goes on and, you do tend to become more involved in the one and the other, because of course it's all time-consuming  but I can honestly say that in Eric's case  he's never deviated one iota from his commitment both to the trade union, this union in particular,and  to the Party  never deviated at all .