I heard Brad having a conversation again today about  Ooh I don't feel ye I heard him saying why don't we feel very happy about this and not  and not happy with the subjects and I  don't feel very happy about running the session  so  go up this way  he's never done the work you see  so he's trying to learn it from i instructions and things  and  a lot of the time you need to have actually done it to be able to talk about it 