said to me about Pauline's kids her three lads, not the baby like the two lads she said, oh she said er they came to play one night, or they came for tea or something and she goes to work at night you know, she said Paul was looking after them and she said, he said you could hear all this banging up and down the stairs, he said, bloody hell he said they were going mad, and I thought that's what Tom and Hannah do when they come here, I said your two bang up and down like bloody anything I said that's normal, you know for kids.