Now when you say right across, I mean you  you've ta seen the photos of, of er  shell pitted ground with the nineteen fourteen eighteen war, well that's how Bentley was then cos it had been  rooted for coal and nineteen twenty six strike everybody got it all out cos there was a lot of top surface coal, course it was just left  there was a lot of mole holes, stuff from  the furnaces when they tip tipped the slag, it was  up and down and there was Buttons Brook, wasn't it Buttons Brook  across there, called Buttons Brook  there was a pool across there called Leg of Lamb   but I mean it, it er you can imagine what I'm trying to say, what the ground was like to go over in pitch black night, to go over there and we went out and course we was issued with er ammunition which was  one of the o only times I can remember when we went really out prepared with live ammunition, and er  we scouted and scouted till daybreak and we didn't find nothing.