Oh Charlie shut her up at, at Chris's mums funeral, when we went to Chris's mum funeral, she's erm, she said something or other about, request something or other about, pointing at the  I shouldn't've been there really because I didn't know her and Charlie said she felt  didn't know her and erm she said oh well Rose never spoke about her, or words to that effect, Chris says the reason our mum never spoke about her cos she never showed her face in here anyway, he said when was the last time you see your mum, at that, she shut straight up like that, her face went, she'd like saying that I shouldn't've been there cos I didn't know her, I mean yet, she ain't set foot in the house for fucking year like, you know  she's a horrible cow, and like when we went in the church, when we went in the crematorium er you had, she had a nice, big one up on the hill is it Arnold's?