Terrible! and you make a heaps of the field and then that's the first handling, and then these heaps had to be loaded on to a trailer and then they were all dumped in a big heap at the bottom of the drive, and then we wait till there was a truck for each Stow station and load it all up again, and do you know there's those forks with big Cumberland Cross on the end, and we'd load those up, take them to Stow station, and unload it into the waggon.