Yes that seems to me to fit that sort of bill, erm to be quite honest I would prefer that we base the promises on a previous paper that T six six one, er you know, sort of er typical success of the fact looking forward cos at least erm that's not so erm, you know, sort of difficult to erm you know achieve as erm sort of repairing potholes within, when you consider that the reason that the potholes don't get mended is because government legislation has it that we have to actually erm have lines painted all round them, so that they can be part of the package of er road mending in many cases, I mean urgently erm difficult ones are not that common er so I think that perhaps some of these promises are so difficult because it gives with one hand and takes back with the other, you know, it says we promise, but, I, I would say that's not much of a promise, you say I promise to erm, you know, erm merge, I forgot about, but if it said but, you know, if it rains I won't tell you, er it would be very sad