I mean I've got, some of my best friends are fucking sub contractors as you know, really good friends, I mean Jonesy brilliant friend, a great friend, a nice geezer, er Bill  beautifully bloke, really nice, but  they should be the first ones out the door, Rumbolds should think more of their permanent staff than they do their fucking contractors staff  that's what makes this company work, that's what makes this company worst than all the rest, ok, you get, you get Union companies which are, must employ sub contractors all the time,