the organ there was a you know where you put your pump belt, there was a long  stout piece of wood and you had to keep pumping that up and down to put the wind into the organ, and there was a mirror above the organ and Mr  the org the organist, who was a butcher in  Street, he could look into that mirror and see whether you was pumping fast enough and he could signal to you and he used to warn you to er keep your eye on the mirror and if he, if he wanted more wind he used to be up up up oh or , but it was just a big long  of wood and we used to pull it up and down, I was fairly tall for me height a age, but er we used to have to stand on a box to get it going first, but it, it was just like  bellows for your fire you know, wind for that, and we used to pump the wind into the organ also the service.