Erm  then he moves on to the middle peasants erm they're similar, I mean once again they, they've got enough to eat, they are, they aren't under  as much stress, I mean th th they can su survive and so the idea of them risking all to support a revolution would be very er you know very risky at the time  at the beginning er the opening period erm  so once again th th I'd say their conclusion is afraid not, you know, I won't join a peasant association,i it won't last.