I deal with children all the time erm many of my  I've been there eight years now and so lots of children have passed through my hands who in particular have lots of educational problems and need special help, and I suppose somebody though erm that although the rage now is to have Governors who are working in industry, and that's perfectly proper, that it wouldn't be a bad idea to have somebody who is supposed to have some knowledge and background of the way children behave and what children need, so erm although I do have some politics, you know, Bill, I erm largely keep them quiet in the governing body.