so I've shared a room with erm this chap Tom  who was er  he had been in the First World War and er though he seemed old to me at the time, I suppose he was probably in his thirties and erm  he joined the Home Guard and erm lived, because he was bombed out where he lived in  he moved out to Coptock had accommodation out there and er he was in the unit at Coptock and so that used to take up quite a bit of his time and other erm members of staff were, of course also had fire watching and erm various civil defence activities, quite apart from the work on the A R P shifts.