Er we was on the beach, you know sea front, he'd er gathered some er brands of seaweed for making what they call Irish moss,Caragium And that would give you a good  think emulsion, you see then in the, what was the cod season, cod fishing, you'd go down to the harbour where the er fishing boat came in and where they were cleaning, and you'd get the boss would have arranged that you get the cod's livers.