in in my course of work, I have three grown up sons  and I think an awful lot of what we're talking about is in your own attitude to men, and generally the most difficult men to deal with, I find, are men who for whatever reason, are actually inadequate, a little bit sensitive to women being competent  I I have no difficulty at all in dealing with that, but I  I'm aware that it seems significant to me that a lot of the younger women here are much more  shall we say, sensitive to erm, what I perceive as being basically male chauvinism.