B A er had a very clear dominance at Heathrow, erm it was a dominance that erm has effectively been erm given to them on a plate by the government, or successive governments over the last fifty years, erm and which in effect saw off you know, Laker, B Cal, Dan Air, Air Europe, erm and er and er and er it's it's them having that dominance and then being able to erm er effectively misuse that dominance by er by using the dom the dominance on say the routes which say Virgin Atlantic don't fly to er actually damage Virgin on on on the routes that erm that we do fly.