That's right, yes, I mean that's  that's very true, and, and another point that underlines the fact economies of scale in agriculture, I mean there are  there are economies of scale to a certain degree as you, as you said there, Matthew, but there's certainly not er, erm, they're not as large as the, as the economies of scale in, in manufacturing, primarily because in agriculture you effectively need land, alright, to increase erm, your output.