"And you see that cross-culturally … whether it's in predominantly white rural communities, in the suburbs, wherever, churches have historically been really, really important."
"Kandi urabona ko imico itandukanye… haba mu baturage biganjemo abazungu bo mu cyaro, mu nkengero, ahantu hose, amatorero yabaye amateka mu by'ukuri, ni ngombwa."