"The key question is political interference," she said. "How do you create a body that is so independent? How do you fund such a body? Which is very difficult. I think these are the struggles that a lot of the anti-corruption, that is faced globally — is how do you maintain independence? And who do they answer to?" 
"Funso lofunika ndikosokonezedwa cifukwa cha ndale," iye anatero. "Mumalenga bwanji bungwe loima palokha?Kodi bungwe limeneli mumalithandiza ndi ndalama bwanji?Chomwe chili chovuta. Ndikuganiza kuti awa ndi mavuto ambili omwe olimbana ndi katangale  pa dziko lonse la pansi amakumana nawo ndi mungasunge bwanji bungwe likhalebe loima palokha? komanso kodi iwo amayankha kwa ndani?"