   Why the hell is it called Real Time Strategy...
  when there's no "STRATEGY" involved? It seems that no matter how strategic I play, there is no winning Warcraft III without cheating. All you have to do to win is amass a group of 20 and ASSFUCK the other players. I play for 10 minutes and die trying to ressurect my hero. At least Command & Conquer had SOME strategy involved... sheesh.[edited by - Dot Hack Sign on July 31, 2003 3:51:23 AM]
  j00 r teh sux! ;  All RTS games seem to be unfair. When I play a skirmish game on WarCraft III, I''m like just starting to build a second structure in my base when all of a sudden, the computer sends a small band of its goons to my base. I''m practically defensless. UNTIL! CHEAT CODES!!!!! Muahhahahahahahahaha......I build a band of elven archers, send them into the comp''s base and watch them shove arrows up everyone''s ass! Muahahahahaa.....I am teh 1337! RapidArp   | My Game Collection | Gamers of the World Unite | My Journal | ;  I am talking about playing online. ;quote:Original post by rapidarp  Muahahahahaa.....I am teh 1337! Except that... you''re not. I guess it''s a balance issue. Starcraft, unlike WC3, is notoriously well-balanced - do you have the same problem playing it?The other problem is the shortcuts developers seem to take with AI - letting the AI see the whole map, so it always knows where you are. I heard WC3 does this, and IMO it''s just incredibly lazy on someone''s part. If you''re going to give the AI full ''satellite view,'' you could at least not make it obvious.   Superpig- saving pigs from untimely fates, and when he''s not doing that, runs The Binary Refinery.Enginuity1 | Enginuity2 | Enginuity3;  Starcraft is the best RTS ever. It''s so balanced it''s not funny. Not only was the base game flawless, the expansion didn''t screw anything up either. You know a game is good when you can strategize your way through a 1vs7 battle.And that''s why there should never be a Starcraft 2, and Blizzard should stop with the RTS''s, because they''re all going to suck compared to Starcraft ;  WHAT THE FUCK?Anyway, I''ve never played WC3. I only played the Starcraft demo and it''s nice too. Age of Empires is also good though I really enjoyed only the Expansion demo But the truth is, Command & Conquer rocks  It''s the best RTS ever IMO. The skirmish in RA is very lovely. ;  the only beef i have with RA is the lack of queing when building units. but otherwise perfect   "And what do they call you? ... Wheels?" -Wolverine ;quote:Original post by Dot Hack Sign   when there's no "STRATEGY" involved? It seems that no matter how strategic I play, there is no winning Warcraft III without cheating. All you have to do to win is amass a group of 20 and ASSFUCK the other players. I play for 10 minutes and die trying to ressurect my hero. At least Command & Conquer had SOME strategy involved... sheesh.I kind of found the same problem. Yet whenever I tried massing 20 units and attacking my opponent, I ended up getting annihilated anyway.In the end I just got fed up with the game. There's probably a trick to it, or maybe it just takes practice, but either way I just couldn't be arsed. Also, the single player skirmishes are crap because not only does the computer do exactly the same thing (mass huge amounts of units and level all it's heroes in a ridiculously short space of time, then proceed to micromanage them so perfectly that I get killed even if I outnumber them 5 to 1) but whenever you use one of the cheats to try and get some practice (ie survive longer than 5 minutes) the computer uses the same cheat and shits on you anyway. Usually the only way I can win these games is to cheat and spam towers, because this is the only way I can outgun the computer due to the low pop limit.Starcraft on the other hand, is still awesome. It can still be a bit tricky to get started, and can still feel like a bit of a tank massing exercise at times, but after a couple of games with someone showing you the ropes you'll be sorted.  [edited by - Sandman on July 31, 2003 6:33:01 AM];  I'd be playing Starcraft if I could find the Starcraft disc... All I have now is the friggen expansion because someone lost the other one >_<*EDIT*Most of you are talking about playing agaisnt the AI, and I don't play skirmishes because of course the fucking computer cheats. I played 2 games against the PC with the enemy health set at 50% (under the handicap thingy) and the first time I just finished building my hero creator for the Undead when the computer had 3 level 5 heros and 30 flying things and destroyed me. The second time I built moonshrine or whatever cause I was the Elves and 3 lvl 5 dire wolves annihlated me.So I stick to multiplayer where (normally) people don't cheat, but it's still the same crap; I build a bunch of shit to protect me and while I am out leveling my heros up, I get jacked and never kill a single enemy unit. Single player (campaign) is fun but fuck is this game hard anywhere else. On Tiberian Sun I have a flawless westwood online record (meaning I've never lost a game).   [edited by - Dot Hack Sign on July 31, 2003 7:07:40 AM]