   difference between nforce4 and nforce 410?
  i'm still trying to piece together a system, and I was thinking of going with the socket am2 processor instead of a socket 939 since i guess am2 is newer and supports ddr2.I was just wondering, I hear everyone say get an nforce4 mobo, but I only see nforce410 on the am2 mobos that I am lookig at.  Is it pretty much the same thing?Also, what would be a good budget pci-e graphics card to go with based around the price range of 60-70$.  I just want something that will run most 3d stuff, doesn't need to be highest settings.  Just something that will run doom3.thanks a lot!   
  Also, is it possible to get a mobo that supports more than 4 ide devices?   ;Quote:Original post by ktuluorionAlso, is it possible to get a mobo that supports more than 4 ide devices?Yes, but your choices are limited.(I assume you mean parallel ATA, rather than serial ATA?)Personally, if you're running more than 4 drives on a motherboards default PATA connections, maybe you ought to consider switching to a better hard drive setup, or buying a separate controller card, which will more than likely provide you with better performance.   ;Quote:Original post by ktuluorioni'm still trying to piece together a system, and I was thinking of going with the socket am2 processor instead of a socket 939 since i guess am2 is newer and supports ddr2.I was just wondering, I hear everyone say get an nforce4 mobo, but I only see nforce410 on the am2 mobos that I am lookig at.  Is it pretty much the same thing?Also, what would be a good budget pci-e graphics card to go with based around the price range of 60-70$.  I just want something that will run most 3d stuff, doesn't need to be highest settings.  Just something that will run doom3.thanks a lot!My understanding is that the 410 is an NForce 4 with integrated graphics. Wikipedia seems to confirm that.Anyways, you're probably better off getting an NForce 500-series board if you're interested in future-proofing it. But if you're just interested in a budget video card, maybe the 410 board would be better off for you, since it comes with a Geforce 6000-level video card (lowest performing 6000 available, of course) built onto the motherboard.Personally, for myself, I'm thinking of getting a board with on-board video to tide me over for the next few months until the DX10 video cards come out.   ;  Thanks a lot for the advice, Mith.  I already have you on the highest rating or i'd rate++ you.  I was thinking of getting something slightly better than the onboard card, but something still crappy, just so that it doesn't use up the system memory and can run a few more things like doom 3.  I'll upgrade the vid card eventually, once something comes out that I actually care about.   ;Quote:Original post by ktuluorionThanks a lot for the advice, Mith.  I already have you on the highest rating or i'd rate++ you.  I was thinking of getting something slightly better than the onboard card, but something still crappy, just so that it doesn't use up the system memory and can run a few more things like doom 3.  I'll upgrade the vid card eventually, once something comes out that I actually care about.BFG GeForce 6600 is the only sub $100 card I've seen that will runn Doom3 at a decent framerate.   