   Reading Data off a Screen / Packet sniffing?
  Ok, let me first start off by saying, what follows is NOT ILLEGAL.  :P  I am interested in writing a small log program (Maybe in C#) that will either read the data or packet sniff it from Full Tilt Poker.  Before you start jumping to conclusions. I am NOT looking for any type of advantage. In-fact, I don't want to sniff the cards.  I simply just want to log who comes in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, in Sit N gos and tournaments.  ect.  (And yes, I know there is SharkScope).  I am not looking for a huge database, nor any database questions.  But has anyone looked into the basic packets of Full Tilt? Do you think they are heavenly encrypted?  Do you think it would be easier to find a program that can read windows and just give it cords of the location.  But can it also read text (Player names) that isn't exactly in text format?Thanks for any suggestions!   
  No, it's just (likely) in violation of your EULA with the site. I'd first look to see if the site/client provides (or could provide) logs. It's not uncommon for such clients to provide general logs after the fact. What the cards were, who won, etc. Easier to work with, less legal entanglement, less headache.   ;  Tela,I want to know though all SitNGos, not just the ones I am in.  Basically, I want to get a RoI for all people that play in 2$ and 5$ sit N Gos (As that is what I play) and would prefer to know how crazy of a player I'm going up against.   ;  Heh. Good luck with that. Unless you're observing every table on the site (which will be quickly detected), or the site operator provides you info directly it's technically infeasible.   ;  Tela,Acutally, they have to provide the information.  It would be against the law for them to not visually show who comes in what place.  Its a public trust issue.  If they are against the idea, people will claim them for being un-legit.  Same reason why SharkScope is still around.   ;Quote:Original post by KensterTela,I want to know though all SitNGos, not just the ones I am in.  Basically, I want to get a RoI for all people that play in 2$ and 5$ sit N Gos (As that is what I play) and would prefer to know how crazy of a player I'm going up against.Unless you have access to this already via scoreboard or similar, then client does not have access to this information, packets or screen scraping, it simply isn't there.The only way to obtain this information is to participate in every game, and record the stats as you play.Quote:It would be against the law for them to not visually show who comes in what placeAnd they do. But in order to see it, you need to be participating in that game. That would require you to use multiple accounts, which is against terms of use.What's wrong with the database you mention? If it provides the data, use that.   ;  Wrong.  They do provide data for every tournament.  I can type any ID, and see who got 1st, 2nd and 3rd, ect.  There is nothing wrong with it, and I won't even need to use any account.  I can click observe and still see active tables.  Thats not the issue.  I am merly saying, should I packet sniff the data, I am not sure how encrypted it would be. Or should I visually parse the data.  If anyone has ever read and parsed data on a screen using a certain program or something, could you list it please.  Or if anyone is good at packet sniffing and could give it a looksie, I would appreciate it.   