   Seeking J2ME Developers For Profitable Projects
  Greetings.In addition to another project, I wish to publish several mobile game ideas I have.  It is possible for me to produce them on my own.  Unfortunately, however, to do so requires time which I cannot afford.There are a few small publishers working locally whom I trust can help get the games we produce out.  If not, then I should be able to arrange for a deal with other publishers.  If that should fail, I have a friend who does some publishing overseas.Currently, I cannot pay you hourly for your work.  I can, instead, compensate with a share of profits from games you become involved with.  I require all positions, but am especially seeking J2ME programmers.I am experienced in writing design docs, and have written several small games on my own in the past.  I have also organized and worked with two teams on small games.  My programming speciality is C++, rather unsuited for this type of work.  Regardless, all necessary information will be provided to team members by myself, and I will keep us organized in the methods I've had experience with.If you are interested, please send me an e-mail at GoldenJoe24@yahoo.com.  I'll be happy to elaborate on the projects and negotiate your positions.  Time is of the essence.  I will begin the first project within 10 business days (mon-fri), regardless of the number of inquiries.Thank you very much.Joe Falcone   
  Moving to Help Wanted.   ;  My apologies, I wasn't quite sure where to post this.  Thank you for the clarification.   ;  Ah, another slick 'businessman' that is trying to trap newbies into doing the hard work without getting a dime. See, "Profitable projects" that have no financial basis just don't exist. If you really knew they were profitable, you'd get a loan and start a real business. Moreover, you are not even specifying your own skills or experience beyond "I did some games" and "my specialty is C++". Not very convincing altogether.Pay up or do it yourself. If you don't have the time, it should mean you be making more money already than the game will earn you, which would imply you *do* have the money to invest. But apparently getting your own email domain is already out of your budget. Get real.Sorry to be an asshole, but someone has to do it. There's too many vultures hanging around here too often.   ;  Hmm...Vulture.  An appropriate name.  Actually, I take no offense to your arguments.  Allow me to justify my request.The reason that I cannot offer any money up front is because I am just graduating with a bachelor's in game development myself.  I'm sure you understand that student loans make it very hard to afford any luxuries, much less fund a business from the ground up.I never claimed to be a businessman, although I do plan to become one.  Regardless, as I am right now, I am just a humble hobbyist trying to establish a reputation in the game industry, both for myself and those who would work with me.Please understand that the profitability aspect of the project is just an extra incentive.  Money is not the focus here; great games are.  If I was doing this for purely commercial reasons, I'd have made a post in the classifieds, now wouldn't I?  This is merely an offer to developers who have a little free time on their hands and want to get immersed in some organized projects.Prototype, it is good that you are willing to protect the inexperienced users of this forum from predators.  I know from my browsing in the past that there are many here.  However, I hope that I have been able to convince you that I hold no malicious intent with this project.  I've attempted to operate a small web design business before, and as I was inexperienced, I failed.  I know alot about what it takes to make something like this work.  It is my hope that a few good people will put their faith in me, and that we may develop some truly excellent games together.ThanksJoe   ;  I do apologize for my rude post.However, you still need to present things in the right perspective. Don't start about paying people when you are actually in the same boat. In reality, you are looking for like-minded persons that are willing to invest their time in something that may or may not be profitable in the future. If your role would involve managing stuff and finding publishers, elaborate on that and show something to make it profound. Your chances of finding reliable partners will likely be better.Hope this is more helpful.BTW I believe you also have to conform your post to the template as given in the Help Wanted FAQ (just a hint, not trying to moderate here)   ;  Yeah, everything is a little misformatted because I originally posted this in the wrong section.  A moderator kindly moved the thread here, but by then it was too late for me to get the formatting correct.  I'll probably start a new thread the proper way.Thanks for your advice.  I will start the revision now.  By the way, if you know of anyone who might be interested in helping out, I'd really appreciate it if you could point them my way.ThanksJoe   ;  Closed.  User has a new thread which uses the proper template.   