   French school headscarf ban
Well it passed.I personally think the entire situation is absurd, the separation of church and state is supposed to ensure that the _government_ doesn't force a particular relgion on the nation, for it to be extended to individual signs of faith is a twisted view of this concept indeed.[edited by - ch1pz on February 10, 2004 5:44:25 PM]
  Sorry, but this board is strictly reserved for bashing America and America only. Move along now.[/troll]It seems a bit ridiculous to me. What, exactly, made this ban necessary? (I read the article and I didn''t see any idication as to what the reason for it is.)   "Tell me who''s the real patriots The Archie Bunker slobs waving flags Or the people with the guts to work For some real change?" -- Dead Kennedys ;  *shrugs* the french being french i guessIt makes no sense to me either, does stamp somewhat on peoples rights to freely express themselves...  ;  I agree, that sucks...-=Lohrno ;  I can only assume the original foundation for it was that religious discrimination was occuring in schools - that is, people wearing headscarves were picked on (especially in the wake of current events, I could see that being the case).Even if that is the case, they should possibly have persued other solutions. Otherwise, they should just have left well enough alone. ;  Superpig: That reminds me of the nut jobs at my school who would come in with black nail varnish with white make-up on their faces and wearing trench coats. My school started to enforce a uniform policy because of it. Heck one guy came in wearing spikes around his neck ffs. ;  The French have a history of doing pretty extreme things in order to preserve their french-ness.For example, the government goes to a lot of effort to purge English-ized words from the French language, words like "le walkman".Like, remember the story last year when the French government decided to ban use of the word "email" ;  oddly enuff those 'nut jobs' you think of are along the lines of alot of people i spend time with (and i'm not far of myself, i'm only short the makeup) and i find the majority of them are more down to earth and sane than most 'normal' people in this world [rant]or those who consider themselves 'better' than us and think that somehow their fashion makes them special.. generaly they are &ltpeople who enjoy self love alot&gt infact, i had a guy beat the crap out of me one day just because he didnt like how i dressed... wasnt that nice of 'im.[/rant] [edited by - _the_phantom_ on February 10, 2004 6:14:13 PM];quote:Original post by superpig  I can only assume the original foundation for it was that religious discrimination was occuring in schools - that is, people wearing headscarves were picked on (especially in the wake of current events, I could see that being the case).Even if that is the case, they should possibly have persued other solutions. Otherwise, they should just have left well enough alone.   no, they just want to be a religionlous society. did you see the line about "protecting the secularity of the state". It''s not about preventing discrimination. It''s equality by discrimination against EVERYONE. ;quote:Original post by _the_phantom_   oddly enuff those 'nut jobs' you think of are along the lines of alot of people i spend time with (and i'm not far of myself, i'm only short the makeup) and i find the majority of them are more down to earth and sane than most 'normal' people in this world [rant]or those who consider themselves 'better' than us and think that somehow their fashion makes them special.. generaly they are &ltpeople who enjoy self love alot&gt infact, i had a guy beat the crap out of me one day just because he didnt like how i dressed... wasnt that nice of 'im.[/rant] [edited by - _the_phantom_ on February 10, 2004 6:14:13 PM]Yeah, most of the people who dress like that at my school are extremely loud, obnoxious, and quite annoying. In fact, there was one of them who refused to shower, and wore the same shirt every day and refused to take it off for P.E. Standing beside him for more than two or three seconds made me want to vomit... he also left behind a vile stench wherever he went.What’s even more annoying is that they claim they dress that way to be “different,” yet there are hundreds of them, thus defeating their intended purpose since they are, after all, just making themselves a part of another group.Note:  I know not all "Goths" are like the ones I described above, but that's the impression I've gotten from the ones that are in my area.   "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin   [edited by - Mscgamer on February 10, 2004 6:27:16 PM]