   Pirate party!
  Sorry if this has been posted before, but filesharers in Sweden are now getting their own political party called Piratpartiet.Their agenda is to dispose of patent laws, copyrights trademarks etc.Swedish linkySeems they got a huge amount of signatures already. But apparently their goal isn't to become a huge party, its merely to give the filesharers a voice in the Swedish government.Sounds like a good idea to me.   
  Geyar! Steve the Pirate approves!   ;  This is a concerning development. If they succeed to rid their country of copyright laws and other means to protect the intellectual properties of people/companies it will become total anarchy.Bands stealing music from other bands, consumers stealing the music without paying, software is never bought but downloaded. The result: There is no corporate reason to invent new products, as it has become extremely difficult to make money.It might look nice, because of all the free music/software/stuff you are able to acquire, but there's a major drawback. Another reason for Microsoft to no longer release Swedish translations of their product, etc.(This is one of the reasons they have their WGA system, to prevent pirates from receiving new updates/SDKs, etc.).Toolmaker   ;  As a Swede myself, I can say that the party seems pretty retarded."What does the Paratparty stands for?The Piractparty stands for removing the immaterialright (copyright, patent, branding and patternprotection)"The people who are doing this and are supporting the party probably only wants free stuff and doesn't care or have any clue how it would affect the rest of the society.   ;Quote:Original post by ToolmakerAnother reason for Microsoft to no longer release Swedish translations of their productThat's the best reason I've heard to vote for them all day..Seriously though, I hope few people honestly believe that the complete abolishment of the copyright system is a viable option, however it may just help to preserve the status quo or even push us in France's direction..   ;  Curiosity:Quote:Original post by Zerom... immaterialright ...Is this a translation error, or some sort of clever play on words?CM   ;  I was kinda hoping for a political party all in pirate attire, this is somewhat depressing :/   ;Quote:Original post by ToolmakerBands stealing music from other bands, consumers stealing the music without paying, software is never bought but downloaded. The result: There is no corporate reason to invent new products, as it has become extremely difficult to make money.I'd welcome a drop in commercialism within the music branche, and it is wrong to call it stealing. As for inventions, you've got a valid point. But we can't let our sense of what is right and wrong be guided by whats the most convenient way to earn money can we?Quote:Original post by Conner McCloudIs this a translation error, or some sort of clever play on words?I believe immaterialright is a collective term covering patents, trademarks and copyrights. Maybe intellectual property would be a better translation.   ;Quote:Original post by Jesper TAs for inventions, you've got a valid point. But we can't let our sense of what is right and wrong be guided by whats the most convenient way to earn money can we?In this case, what's "right" is inventors being funded.  If the most efficient way of doing that is with commercial backing, then what's right and what earns the most money go hand in hand.Quote:Original post by Jesper TI believe immaterialright is a collective term covering patents, trademarks and copyrights. Maybe intellectual property would be a better translation.Oh, yeah, that makes sense.  I initially read it as a way of saying IP rights are immaterial, or not pertinent/important.  CM   ;Quote:Original post by Jesper TBut we can't let our sense of what is right and wrong be guided by whats the most convenient way to earn money can we?We couldn't if we where talking big corporation loosing 20 %, but when we are talking about a small part of society which doesn't earn money because your "sense of right and wrong" says they should rather starve than you pay $15 for a CD. Lets say you sold 10000 comic books, then people started going into your store taking them, when you asked them to stop they answered "right and wrong is not determined by which way you make most money, the only difference between us taking them and buying them is that you get money when we buy them and that is not more right than if you don't get anything. Also I don't want to pay anything, so I just don't."I know I sound a little upset, but I just can't see how people can look at it this way.I don't have anything against what France is doing, but saying people who are working should suddenly work for free is stupid, imagine if the government said that people wants candy, so candy is free from that day (everyone involved in the process of making candy, just won't get payed). If the swedes are actually doing something to pay the people in the music/movie business (or whoever sufferes) the same amount they lost it wouldn't be that bad, but they most likely won't.   