   Blackbox for Windows causing freeze...
  Mittens was using it in the desktop thread, so I thought I''d try it.  I installed it and now it freezes at the welcome screen right before it shows my desktop.  If I ctrl+alt+delete it, the welcome screen goes away and it looks cool and everything but it doesn''t seem to load fully.  I''m using the guest account to type this. 
  Why would you want to run Blackbox on Windows? If we''re talking about the same Blackbox here, then Blackbox is a WM for Linux. ;  No, I happen to be talking about Blackbox for Windows. ;  rofl, i d/l''ed it then too   froze on me (WinXP Pro).  ehhh, back to my plain ol standard xp color scheme   annoying - it looked damn cool in that ss. ;  I''m not so sure it froze, actually. Whenever you make a major change to XP, the welcome screen takes fucking FOREVER to go away. When I installed blackbox (be sure to install the stable build first, then upgrade to the latest nightly build), I think it took about a solid two minutes to boot.   Trent Polackwww.polycat.nettrent@polycat.netAuthor of Focus on 3D Terrain Programming;  Yeah, after about 5 minutes it finally booted up (Why does windows XP refuse to use the hourglass pointer when it should???).  Are the desktop icons supposed to be gone though? ;  Aye, the desktop icons are part of the explorer shell. There are two different "versions" of explorer for XP. There is explorer the shell (the desktop/taskbar/system tray), and then there is explorer the file manager.The explorer file manager is our FRIEND; it''s robust, bug-free, and very customizable. It''s also fairly easy on your system memory as well.The explorer shell, on the other hand, is quite bloated, hardly customizable (if at all), and tends to be the buggiest part of XP.Anyway, to answer your question, you can get icons for blackbox. Check out all the plugins on the plugin page for blackbox, and you should find a lot of cool shit. I''ll be honest with you, it takes a good 4-5 hours to get blackbox completely customized to your personal tastes. For instance, I had a shitload of desktop icons when I used the explorer shell, and when I got to blackbox, I used the plugin for desktop icons, but ended up finding out that customizing the blackbox menu (the right-click menu) can end up being MUCH more efficient. Just play with it, browse the blackbox forums, etc. It''s a really nice shell... At least until I whip out my uber coding skills and write a real shell for programmers.  Trent Polackwww.polycat.nettrent@polycat.netAuthor of Focus on 3D Terrain Programming;  Ok, I should ask, is if fastER or slowER then the normal mode?Duh, anyway, I didn''t like blackbox for linux => search for fluxBox from now on ;  Does anyone know how to set the desktop background to a file? ;  Has anyone heard of Aston Shell it is an awesome windows shell replacement and desktop manager.Aston Shell