   In regards to this thread
  This sticky needs to be updated http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=306997 or at least not made a sticky anymore.  If only one person gets to judge which games are to be displayed in this sticky then its worthless as a sticky imo.   
  I'm sure the mods who created the thread are more than willing to update the thread provided good submissions.While slightly dated now, the games listed in that thread are all noted by legions of fans as being prime examples of their genres. I don't think they are just games those mods happened to like.   ;  Dated?Those are classics.I'm kind of disappointed that they don't have an adventure category (Where's Monkey Island?). The genre is not completely dead, and it has legions of fans.;  The thread is dated, not the games [wink]   ;  Several people submitted the examples currently on the sticky - I submitted 3 or 4 of them.  There just haven't been any submissions since the last update date on the thread.   ;  The posting thread just floated off somewhere. If you have recommendations, post them hereHowever, I do agree that a single person heavily filtering submissions isn't a great way to organize that type of data. Sort of defeats the purpose.   ;  You're more than welcome to create a version  on the wiki.   ;  That thread actually predates me becoming a moderator, and doesn't actually include anywhere near the absolutely massive number of games submitted as suggestions; even those that are currently included took a long time to gather the basic information and format correctly.  That thread was actually based on a more discussion based thread with many members participating, and was my attempt at organising them to provide an easily browsable list.  Due to it's incomplete state, and the reason I'll present next I would personally prefer that thread no longer be sticky, but have left it there because some users still find it valuable even in it's current flawed state - this also isn't my forum, so Sandman is ultimately responsible for any decision to remove it.Since that time however I'm actually come to a viewpoint somewhat opposed to the one presented by Kest.  I think for such a list to be useful it should probably actually be more heavily moderated.  While this would certainly lead to a lot of excellent games being excluded and would be prone to bias from the person or people doing the moderation, I believe that a more focussed list with a lot less entries would be a more valuable way to provide design that people could study and learn from, and that there should probably only be a single game chosen to demonstrate particular examples of good design in certain areas rather than a large list of good games that leaves the reader to figure out for themselves what was good or bad.As SiCrane suggests though, anyone is more than welcome to contribute to creating a list (or porting the existing one and making additions if you like) to the wiki.   ;Quote:Original post by jbadamsSince that time however I'm actually come to a viewpoint somewhat opposed to the one presented by Kest.Game design is more about art than science. And in the art world, one man's junk is another man's treasure. I don't think you can moderate the quality of art without reducing the number of people the information is useful to.I agree that less entries would be better. But I don't think one or two people can judge the quality of these games, or the lessons they teach us.   ;  While I'm sure that's true, I don't see any way of keeping the number of entries small whilst being inclusive of everyone's suggestions and opinions.  The original thread that the list in the sticky was compiled from, along with suggestions I was sent privately included hundreds of games.   