   COD4
  is awesome, i'm surprised there isn't a thread about it.It's actually pretty short, I just finished it and only bought it last night.  I mean, I played a good 6 hours of it today... still.That aside, the cinema of this game is astounding.  I think this is the first FPS I've played where I actually gave a crap about the NPC squadmates around me.  Rather than treating them as idiotic can't-run-around-a-fence human shields, I actually felt a commitment to our team and our mission at hand.  I was literally blown away on numerous occasions, by the top-notch shader work, motion captured choreography, and in particular the billowing smoke clouds.  It was an exhilerating experience.The mod tools have been released, but I bought the game through steam and am unsure about their compatibility.  Plus multiplayer doesn't seem to work, as punkbuster always gets disabled immediately.  I think I might actually play through the single player again, on a harder difficulty.   
  imo this isnt a game, its a real time rendered film. I didnt like it. I found that the gameplay punished me when i strayed from the obvious path. And when i say "strayed from the obvious path" i mean i walk 2m to the left.I played it on hardest difficulty and the squad mates were completely useless.In many situations killing enemies was actually a bad idea.example:You flank enemythey dont see youyou kill them3 seconds later enemies respawn and they are aware of youthey kill youyou couldnt advance threw some situations, by killing, because they would respawn before you kill all the enemies in the way. The only way to advance was with smokes or flashbangs.Terrible gameplay. Great atmosphere.The gameplay in crysis was far more evolved yet received massive amounts of stick for being 'only graphics' and 'just another shooter'.;  Maybe there was still no thread here, but there is thread praising COD4 on every gaming forums. It got pretty high review.RivieraKid sorry but I will disagree with you. First the "respawning" you talk about is never infinite, it spawn a pre-defined numebr of enemies and they come from point it's normal they do, so it don't look like respawning, unlinke games like stalker and such. The only real point you have is that it's too linear, but I prefer a lot having linear great in-game scripted action than empty forests like in crysis "open environment" (which get linear anyway). Crysis engine is totally totally better on most points (technology, graphics, etc), but they ain't got the gameplay right, thing that COD4 did, and that's the most important. You might not agree with me, but most reviewers and gamers do.Funkymunky, sure the single player mission is short, but COD and MOH series always has been. You should really try to fix your punkbuster error tough, cause it's even better online. They put everything for that game to be played online, with challenges and experiences, class creation, good game type, etc.   ;Quote:Original post by RivieraKidyou couldnt advance threw some situations, by killing, because they would respawn before you kill all the enemies in the way. The only way to advance was with smokes or flashbangs.It's quite innovative game design, but some players did not like it. Like if in a war one single soldier could get rid of all the ennemies. No way. ever. So you have to move forward and do your job no matter what. It's no longer possible to move forward carefully, sniping enemies from distance to clean up the path to your objectives. Now it's ACTION time. Shoot, run get to cover, cover your allies, move on, and on. I liked this game!;  Very pretty, but it did the same thing FarCry did.  I spent a lot of time restarting levels and trying the puzzles again because you have to know which of the six identical doors isn't going to have girders fall in front of it.   ;  Spoiler:I thought it was a great game. Sure the single player was short, but when that nuke went off I was like "Oh Snap! Would they actually do that to me?!" Then you come out of the chopper after the nuke goes off and your sort of still alive and thinking that your going to survive a nuke and are disappointed that the game made you some super human or something. But you end up dieing and its all like... intense like that.I liked it.   ;  If it's not infinite, then the set amount is at least in the high thousands.  I beat the game on Veteran, and on certain levels,  such as the TV station, the enemies were in the room for a good 1 hour of non stop shooting, grenades, etc.  It was finally when I ran out of bullets that I rushed into the room through fire, and when I reached the spot I was suppose to reach, the enemies just miraculously disappeared.  There were other times when I entered a room that was completely clear with the only entrance the way I came in, and I turned my back only to find 3 enemies were right behind me.  Where were they hiding?  Under the floorboards or a trick door?  And don't let me get started on the quality of my teammates.  "Soap, take point!"  "Soap, go down this corridor and check it out for enemies while we stand back!"  The only good your teammates were for was to open up doors.  I ended up having to do the killing of most of the enemies, because that's how bad the AI is.I don't remember where, but there was a good video on YouTube which compared Crysis to CoD4 and all the myths that are attributed to each.  It shows the linearity of the games (CoD4 which you can only go one way, and even things that  you should normally  be able to cross are barriers, vs Crysis where you can walk the entire isle), the AI (CoD4 where the enemies just respawn and throw grenades and shoot at you, even if they should have no idea where you are, vs Crysis where the opponents will call for help and flank you), and interactivity of the game (CoD4 where only a few windows and barrels explode vs Crysis where you can mow down trees with an MG to create a new weapon).Not to say CoD4 is a bad game.  It's just not as good as many people make it out to be imho.  There were a few good levels such as The Mile High Club, which provided a change of pace from the normal FPS's out there.  And multiplayer is somewhat fun too.   ;  On the harder difficulties the respawning definately does feel infinite in lots of situations. The easier difficulties didn't have the same design. I didn't mind it so much, but it was sort of annoying.I actually like that the game was short since I don't play games the way I used to when I was in school. I tend to buy a bunch of games and play through them pretty quick. When I was in school I'd buy a handful of games each year and play them all to death.   ;Quote:Original post by NytegardI don't remember where, but there was a good video on YouTube which compared Crysis to CoD4 and all the myths that are attributed to each.  It shows the linearity of the games (CoD4 which you can only go one way, and even things that  you should normally  be able to cross are barriers, vs Crysis where you can walk the entire isle), the AI (CoD4 where the enemies just respawn and throw grenades and shoot at you, even if they should have no idea where you are, vs Crysis where the opponents will call for help and flank you), and interactivity of the game (CoD4 where only a few windows and barrels explode vs Crysis where you can mow down trees with an MG to create a new weapon).I completely agree. I always get annoyed when some people say that Crysis is no more than a glorified tech demo and has no gameplay. I haven't played CoD4, but I bought Medal of Honor: Airborne a few months ago, and it sounds like they've been using the same system of respawning enemies. It seems to be a recent trend, I can't remember games using respawning (at least to that extent) a few years ago..Y.;Quote:Original post by YsaneyaIt seems to be a recent trend, I can't remember games using respawning (at least to that extent) a few years ago..Serious Sam ? :-D