   It IS Christmas...    
  So I think it's perfectly topical to raise the subject of Christ!I want to make clear this is a serious thread not for flames and blatant antagonism. I'm gonna ask the moderator to be firm on such things but not close the thread please. APs, please use your names if at all possible So - this is more of a survey really. I'd be really interested in peoples' responses to these questions:1)How would you define your faith/religion?(Athiest means you firmly believe there is no God, agnostic means you're not sure what you think)2)Why do you have that view?3)What does Christianity mean to you, or rather what do you think it is?To save you having to read all through this when many points will get raised over and over, I've responded to as many things as I could pick up on from everyones' posts. Search for the string "d000hg   Member" to find all my posts - I think only pages 4 & 6. I'd put it here put then this would be pages long!  Again, please think before replying - this is NOT the place to ridicule others but a serious discussion/survey - I'd like to know what peoples' views are.Feel free to email me about anything whether to clarify a point or ask anything relevant - just no abuse please!  [edited by - d000hg on December 31, 2002 7:09:31 AM]
  1. I don''t believe in a god2. I haven''t have any proof there is a god, and the evolution theory seems much more logical to me.3. Christianity means to me: manipulating people with a fairytale    My Site;  1)Athiest2)Like quasar3d, evolution theory makes much more sense than some supreme being that creates everything and then doesn''t show him/her/its self.3)Not a lot really.    ;  1) I belive in God, but the definition of God is not a supreme being but a greater meaning, something that can't be explained.2) There must be something more. True kaos could maybe be proof of God? Dunno, but I don't belive we're all just some chemical reaction started long long ago3) Well, aslong as they don't hurt people. And belive in doing good it's okey with me. But I hope they stay open-minded/MindWipe[edited by - MindWipe on December 29, 2002 10:00:32 AM];Just to clear up one popular misconception:  Christianity and science are not mutually inconsistent. Though an all-powerful God could   make the universe look much older than it is, I can''t see the point! Since the universe appears to have developed well in agreement with physics, and life to have evolved broadly in line with Darwinism - I see no reason why God couldn''t use such methods. It would make him no less powerful - indeed to my mind this is more plausible.NB Newton & Pascal plus very many famous scientists were and are Christians.;  1 - Agnostic - as in I''m 100% sure I don''t know whether there is a God or not.2 - Given the scarcity of available facts, it isn''t possible to make any definitive conclusions.3 - Christianity is one of the great Evils of all times.    I''ve looked at the source, and there are pieces that are good and pieces that are not ... My experience  and some of my friends'' experience is that Linux is quite unreliable. Microsoft is really unreliable but Linux is worse. -- Ken Thompson;  1) athiest2) there is no reason to believe in any myths, popular or not3) it''s a good thing in theory (useful morals for a decent society) and a horrible thing in practice (people can''t live up to their self-imposed morals, but hypocritically try to impose them on others)*** 500 error (2x) ***  ;  1- I do believe in a God, but don''t accept any of the religions out there.2- I don''t accept any of the religions because there are many of them, and each one says a different thing. If there was only one religion, I was more likely to accept it.3- Christianity is just another one of the many religions out there.  ;  Do you know that Jesus is the enemy of God? A few points to consider:How do you bring people back from the dead? Black Magic.What did Jesus do? He brought people back from the dead.If the only way to bring people back from the dead is Black Magic, then obviously Jesus was himself a wicca master.The opposite of Black Magic is obviously White Magic, the same kind used to heal people and therefore the same kind used by faith healers.Where do faith healers get their powers? They get them from God, so clearly God is the source of White Magic.Since Black Magic is the enemy of White Magic and Jesus is a Black Magic master while God is the source of White Magic, Jesus and God are thus enemies.;quote:Original post by quasar3d  1. I don''t believe in a god2. I haven''t have any proof there is a god, and the evolution theory seems much more logical to me.3. Christianity means to me: manipulating people with a fairytale    My Site  Responding to quasar, not the original questions:1. Ok, I cannot argue the fact that you don''t believe in God.2. From your response, it seems like you are choosing to believe in evolution, rather than in God.  Well, religions today have accepted evolution and that it does fit in with God.3. Manipulating people how?  Who do you believe is running Christianity, and how do you believe they are manipulating people.    |.dev-c++.|.the gimp.|.seti@home.|.dbpoweramp.|.torn.|.=w=.|  