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Pozessed PE ElementNo Members, Need HelpIm a noob, I have no skills, my goal is to get people to take on my ideas and help me get this game off the ground and into peoples homes.Close to freewareIm 100% fair, Id just want a small percentage as I know this game will prduce LARGE sums of money if done right.The Technolgy would have to be left up to the developers, I have no idea what to put hereI need anyone with talents in sim racing, Anyone who has a desie to make the next racing game to take the world overno site, sorryMy Email is pozessed123@gmail.comI HATE BEING A NOOBHi everyone, I hope you are all doing good. Im posting a thread here as I have the next BEST game idea of the decade. With the right developers I have a game that will produce more money to the players and developers than party poker and all the other online gambling games. I have a HUGE problem though and that is I dont know squat about making a game and the type of game I have in mind is going to have to be rich in graphics. Im learning what I can on my own, but I wasnt really interested in learning what to do to make a game until I got this idea less than a month ago.Anyhow, Im looking for GREAT developers who are dedicated and honest individuals, The idea I have is a one of a kind at the moment but will have copycats as soon as it's made. I dont think anyone is even had my idea yet cuz I dont see any talk in the online gaming mags. so whoever decides to help will be in for an AWESOME future in thier career if all goes well. I have all the ideas and types of specs, I just need it made, marketing will not be hard at all, I think what Im doing now is the hardest part and that is getting an experienced crew to help me......blah blah blah, let me get to it, the game I have in mind is the next generation of online racing, I want it to be completely innovated with some of everyones favorite racing games, I want the players money used to buy the game, to also be the money used to go into a pot at the beginning of a race. This is just a small part of my idea, I have a whole type of storyline written out, I have hundreds of thousands of ideas to throw into this game to make it TRULY one of a kind...I dont expect to be able to get everything done at once, I do wanna start off small and add ideas as we go, I dont wanna rush  into things and start an impossible project, and also since Im just the Idea person I DONT HAVE TO OR WANT TO BE LEADER, I just want to be part of the team. My team name is something I made up to hopefully keep this thread posted for a while.Anyways please reply and thank you all for your previous help. Gl on all your projects your working on now, and I appreciate the advice you have given.Well if youd care to help my email address is pozessed123@gmail.comhave a good day and thank you for reading[Edited by - Pozessed2 on June 9, 2006 2:13:46 PM]
  Hi,I've read your post here and you're not the only one that became a member of gamedev.net and posted the best idea ever the very same day he signed in. Thousands and Thousands of people did the same.I don't know waht became of them but I never heard of 99% of these people anymore.Judging from your post I take that you've never had experience in games development, do you have any experience in programming, art, writing or music ? Be aware that nobody will be interested to work on the best idea ever that you may have unless you can show passion and determination and at the very least decent experience in the path you want to undertake. Most GREAT programmers and artist will be glad to work for you once you have a project going on already , maybe a company running and big bucks to pay them.If you want a better chance at people being interested in what you have to say you should follow this forum's guidelines on help wanted for games project  HEREAlso if you don't have academic and/or professional experience in management you may not be ready to undertake a huge team effort such as what you are looking forward to do.Be sure to know that what you want to do will probably require huge resources if your aim is a AAA quality game. It will take years of full time and often overtime hours weeks with at least a couple dozen of experts working on the project and a couple million dollars to complete the project.This is unfortunately reality, it's a bit harsh but if you want to get to that level I strongly encourage you to do so by starting from the bottom of the ladder and learning the basics of the trade by making very simple games on your own at first and then going up a notch with each new game like pong --> Tetris ->pacman --> something else you want to doWith constant work and dedication you should be able to do something. I also suggest you take a look at Tom Sloper's website on game design it will probably answer many many questions that you may have. It is very interesting and resourceful : The Sloperama Game Design FAQSI hope you'll be able to make the most out of this.Have a nice day;  You must edit your post to fit this template or I will remove it within 24 hours. Thanks.   ;  Thank you for your reply, I appreciate evrything you have to say and your critisizm it is all very helpful, especially the links, I will make sure to put all this to good use. I do understand that most people are being shunned away because I dont have the experience in game developing or programming or even arts, I do want to learn and cant afford to goto school at the moment so Im kinda stuck just being an Idealist. I know if I list the game idea I have it will be stolen from me and someone else will claim the idea as there own, isnt there anyway I can get my ideas heard and still get  credit some how??? thats all I really want is for people to know Id have had at least a little input....   ;  Unfortunately, unless you give away some sort of info, no one is even going to remotely consider helping you.  No offense, but there are tons of people who post here saying they have the "next greatest game idea ever!!1!".  The only difference here is that you don't use the word MMORPG.  You are going to have to say something that shows 1)what your idea is and 2)that it actually is a good idea.  Again, I don't mean this offensively, but its just the reality of the situation.  I'd suggest giving at least a vague idea of what the game is (you don't even mention a genre...) or this thread is going to be overlooked.  Again, no offense,  but the only reason I even read this was because after seeing the title of the thread I figured it was another way-over-ambitious person wanting to make the next greatest game and I saw the opportunity for comic relief.  People will take you more seriously if you reformat this thread to something a little cleaner and professional (no caps, quit over-selling the idea, etc.) and re-title it with something more specific, like "Have design, Need team".Hope that helps.   ;  When recruitment posts remind you of the Nigerian prince who will give you 17.5 million dollars if you give him your credit card and social security numbers, its usually not a good thing.   ;  Ok tyvm guys, and yea I wouldnt be that ignorant professor, I guess Ill just have to trust anyone who wants to participate to help me, and not take advantage of this idea.   ;  Listen, Pozessed2. You have to understand that what Avenyr and others have said is all true. Hundreds of people great ideas that they think are revolutionary and so great that they can't tell anybody because then the idea will be stolen and somebody else will profit from it. Those same people often have no practical experience or ability to implement that idea, so they come here (and other places) to ask for help.Invariably, those people are treated with disdain and hostility (at best) or flamed so much that the forum moderators need to put in overtime (at worst)."If I tell somebody, they'll steal it." Well, see, that's wrong. First off, if the marketability of the idea is SO obvious that anybody who hears even a little bit of the idea will run off and implement it themselves, then the idea itself is probably pretty obvious (i.e., somebody else has already had it). In that case, the fact that nobody has done it usually suggests that there is some fundemental reason why the idea is not feasable.Additionally, you can never stop somebody from "stealing" your idea as an idea itself is not suitable for copyright (only the expression). And you are going to have to tell somebody the idea at some point, or nobody can implement it for you.The main reason thing you will hear from people are comments like "what skills do you bring to the team besides the idea?" Can you program, produce art, et cetera? There are two reasons for this. If all you can contribute is the idea, you are useless to the team. But generally the "idea guys" feels compelled to be the "leader" as well, but he's not qualified for it and everybody else will tend to just resent him, and eventually the project will nose-dive.The other reason isn't discussed as much, but its often more fundamental. You admit that you have no ability or experience writing software, managing teams... any of that. In short, you have no substantial knowledge of the field in which you claim to have a new idea of earth-shattering proportions. The real reason that most people treat people like you with hostility is because of that simple fact: you don't know what you are talking about, so you have no idea if your idea is even feasible, or if its been attempted before... nothing! This would be similar to me (a person with no practical knowledge of how cars work) going to Honda and saying, "Look, guys, I have this great idea that nobody's done before: let's make cars that fly! Think of how well they'd sell!"Obviously the Honda engineers would laugh me out of the building. That's exactly the same phenomenom you're going to suffer here, unfortunately.Now, you can't do anything (short-term) about your lack of applicable skills. But you can improve your chances of being treated civally and getting some decent help:Reformat your post according to the template previously linked to. Your post WILL be closed if you don't do it (very soon, as posts tend to be closed immediately once the original poster has replied without reformatting, as you have).Start talking about your idea. Nobody here is going to steal it, we all have plenty of ideas of our own and nowhere near enough time or resources to implement them all. By talking about your idea, you will be able to get feedback from people who have more experience than you, and thus you will be able to put your idea through the gauntlet, so to speak. Afterwards, you will probably have a much more viable idea. And you'll have gained more respect than you've already lost by being a "noob.";  ok I agree with you that I will get hostility and resent from people for being so new and trying to get my idea off the ground, I do understand I dont have the qualifications to be a team leader as I wouldnt know where to begin, I have reposted my last forum to be a little more encitful and as to give everyone atleast a little bit of my idea. Thank You for your feedback it is much appreciated. and as for this thread Im not all to worried about it as I have posted a new one, please do read my new post, and Id also like to know what I should put in so it doesnt get erased.   ;  You want to edit your original post to use this template.   