   Amicus Curiae, or: Unban DakeDesu!
  I''m sure every moderator and staff member here has the best interests of this site and community at heart.However, as a member of the community, I feel that the recent bannings are detrimental to its well-being.Michalson posted a thread to share a magazine he''d found. It was a ridiculously cheerful Christian magazine aimed at teenagers. DakeDesu responded to the thread, predicting that 23yrold3yrold would respond to defend his Christian views. DakeDesu was apparently banned for this.Members insulting other members is certainly a serious offense, and I can understand why a moderator might feel like they needed to react to this. However, there are two reasons why this was not an appropriate case for disciplinary action:1) The defense to slander is truth. 23yrold3yrold has participated in many threads about religion before. Predicting that he would participate in another one is reasonable. If someone posted in a thread about race horses saying, "I bet Bishop_Pass will be here any minute", would they be banned?2) DakeDesu''s statement was not injurious. There is nothing wrong with possessing strong feelings about one''s religion, and communicating them in a civil way. Saying that 23yrold3yrold would do so, then, is not an insult.If DakeDesu caused offense in some way that has not been addressed here, it would be good if that could be made known. After all, you can''t avoid breaking a law that you are unaware exists.DakeDesu''s presence on these forums was a positive contribution. She offered a unique viewpoint that improved the diversity of this forum''s membership.I encourage the moderators or staff in control of this to reconsider their decision, and to unban DakeDesu. This will allow DakeDesu to continue contributing and, more importantly, demonstrate that bans from this community result only from rational cause. 
  What he said ^. ;  edit: actually threating the moderators with this account is not a good way to get unbanned.   [edited by - Daytanea on December 8, 2003 6:21:45 PM];  Well said...If the only thing said was that 23 year old would come and participate in the thread, then the banning seem a bit harsh...But:DakeDesu posted from Michalson, Michalson pretty clearly states that she WOULD be unbanned later.. (I think his words were something like, "drop me a mail later and remind me to unban you"So why are we even discussing this?   [edited by - Coward on December 8, 2003 6:27:01 PM];  I try to stay away from Lounge politics, but in this case I really have to agree with Zorodius. DD''s comment about 233 was completely acceptable. 233 is one of those forum posters who has, over time, built up a rather defined online character. He''s participated in many (I''m tempted to say most) religion threads, always on the ''pro'' side. He''s a well-known poster, and an integral part of the community. So it''s only natural that he''d be discussed in the third person.Now, things seemed to balloon out of control after that (B: why was a banned? C: why was B banned?), and I have no idea whether those were warranted or not, but the initial "offense" really was IMHO not worth even a reprimand. If individual moderators (such as, say, 233) take exception to DD''s comment, then they could respond to it directly, either in the thread, or via email. But this strikes me as not having enough to do with forum rules to warrant such an extreme reaction. ;letter is back onlineAnyways--still waitin for her a response from either Michealson or Myopic Rhino ;  I wonder, if I was banned, would so many people stick up for me, or even give a damn? I doubt it  Anyway who cares? Banning only seems to last like 2 days around here anyway. Its a good excuse to go outside and get some fresh air ;quote:Original post by AndreTheGiant  I wonder, if I   was banned, would so many people stick up for me, or even give a damn? I doubt it  Anyway who cares? Banning only seems to last like 2 days around here anyway. Its a good excuse to go outside and get some fresh air  You do realise there ARE permaban members... for example numbchucks (and all his spawned accounts), californium (this was during one of my hiatuses), nes8bit, and YodatheCoda. ;  YodaTheCoda still has an account, you know...   ;  I totally agree with Zorodius here.   [My Image Gallery (WIP)][Greatest Tetris clone evar!][Return your stolen MP3s] 