   AI and I
  Hi Im new and Im only here because this article inspired me.http://digg.com/tech_news/Two_AI_Pioneers_Two_Bizarre_Suicides_What_Really_Happened_2Ive always had a facination with AI, and I developed a theory a while ago that becide the genetic factors that the mind opperates on 1 and 0, that all choices are wieghed by this calculation. either a positeve or a neg. That the mind is a very advanced statistion, and that it weighs the negative to the postive, and the produces an assumtion based on that for everything.I believe that, after studying the epi genome that we have a built in filter thats encoded, to preset us to factors. But that we are a culmination of our descitions, that our past 1s and 0s make up who we are.That said I believe that we are already half way ther to developing a cohsive nural network ...and it is the internet. All that is lacking is an algorythm, or that spark to search and store it @ the same time. It just need a program of a new born baby, and it lives.Hiya all I hope I regester here and am not just a rambling fool.   
  This concept has been used in Science Fiction. I hope you didn't think it was original. But it is a very good concept, although I doubt turning the internet into a huge AI would be as simple as you seem to think.   ;  Maybe the semantic web could be a step in that direction, as far as an AI "understanding" the internet.But really, who would want the first true artificial intelligence to have it's "mind" filled with that much SPAM and pr0n?   ;Quote:Original post by TredecimThat said I believe that we are already half way ther to developing a cohsive nural network ...and it is the internet. All that is lacking is an algorythm, or that spark to search and store it @ the same time. It just need a program of a new born baby, and it lives.All I need is a Chinese military grade icebreaker of unprecedented sophistication...[edit]oh, and can anyone give me a lift to Freeside space resort?[Edited by - Hodgman on January 21, 2008 12:18:27 AM];Quote:Original post by Possumdude0This concept has been used in Science Fiction. I hope you didn't think it was original. But it is a very good concept, although I doubt turning the internet into a huge AI would be as simple as you seem to think.C'mon... Everyone knows all you need is a philotic web and then you get Jane!   ;Quote:Original post by krezMaybe the semantic web could be a step in that direction, as far as an AI "understanding" the internet.But really, who would want the first true artificial intelligence to have it's "mind" filled with that much SPAM and pr0n?So it'd be your average male teen then?   ;  No I didnt think it was a new idea, I was thinking that if these guys where on the leading edge of Ai development. Then according to there standards if anyone has the capabilities it would be someone like google. They were trying to compact 100s of thousand/millions of yes no answers, eg 1 or 0.So it seeems to me that all that is lacking is the right way to communicate with everything on the web. A bettter search engine.Under thier standards this "conversation" would qualify as intelligent.Q Whats the tempature out side?A 72Q Ehats the weather forcast for doday?A Overcast with a 75% chance of rainQ Is the sky blue?A No it currently is cloudy... thast simple intelligence, and really how far off is that. And where would all that information be drawn from.;  resistance is futile!!!it's probably far more complex than you or I or most people can imagine.  The simple stuff maybe not so much, but for it to be worth bothering with then it's probably opening a pandora's box of problems to solve before it could work even half-decently.Just to start, there's the whole 'language' side of things and it being able to 'understand' what is being asked of it by someone like yourself, and then you have the whole translating that question into an answer by digging through the CORRECT websites / information problem.  How hard do you think it would be to have an AI be able to 'understand you' and then be able to "make it's own further queries" and then "decide what's useful and what is junk" and then "create a valuable and understandable reply to you based on it's own interpretation of what it has discovered"... hasn't stuff like this been attempted since forever?  First thing that comes to my mind are the msn bots that you can chat away to and get semi-decent replies from, but even they fall down... and aren't they basically designed to reply from a simple database?  I don't actually know, but I think I've given enough food for thought.   ;  Then comes the question of self awarness, and that is a very different thing from intellegence.Take bees for instance they are probablly not self aware there entire lives are for the colony, they die for it, and live for it....litterally work themselves to death for it.And people, people seem to define their self awarness by thier beliefs and most beliefs are based on religion, and religion is comunal, and therefore not self aware.Athiests even live in the now, the current science and knowledge but living in the  now might not even be relevant as recent science has show that time itself may not be relevent, or "real".So is anyone self aware, or just communilly aware.   