   America vs The World (movie question)
  I was reading some forum posts at imdb.com, and it seems that people in other countries dislike how in movies, Americans always save the world, and are always the heroes.  I wanted to reply and say "well, if you don''t like it, make your own damn movies!"  But that would have been a little mean. So how do you all feel about Americans always saving the day/world/pretty girl/everything else that matters? 
  I say [ expletive deleted ] ''em.  That''s like complaining that movies made by black people show white people as evil.Besides, how do they explain James Bond?;  I, for one, am not offended by American''s portrayed as heroes of the world.I mean, we actually did save the world once.  ;  I agree. Other countries have absorbed American pop culture to the point where it seems to be a dependancy. Thus, who are they to complain that we''re not making things that they want? Generally, Hollywood produces for Americans...I know this is not politically correct. Oops.   Yes... VB6 is here to steal your minds. Very slowly. ;  Its those movies that try and say they are "based on the facts" and then show Americans saving the day, when infact it is a mxiture of lots of nationalities. The especialy happens in world war 2 films.Anyone remeber U251 (or whatever its called). Read up on the history of how we got the enigma machine, I think you will notice a lot of HMS  ships mentioned.And Look I am not complaining, its just I wish when they claim to be making moves that are realistic, they bother to include the realism and history.;quote:Its those movies that try and say they are "based on the facts" and then show Americans saving the day, when infact it is a mxiture of lots of nationalities. The especialy happens in world war 2 films.Anyone remeber U251 (or whatever its called). Read up on the history of how we got the enigma machine, I think you will notice a lot of HMS ships mentioned.And Look I am not complaining, its just I wish when they claim to be making moves that are realistic, they bother to include the realism and history. seconded.another example: that new russel crowe movie. in the original story the americans were the bad guys, so why not chance it and make it the french? quite a pathetic move if you ask me. ;quote:Original post by Eelco   quote:Its those movies that try and say they are "based on the facts" and then show Americans saving the day, when infact it is a mxiture of lots of nationalities. The especialy happens in world war 2 films.Anyone remeber U251 (or whatever its called). Read up on the history of how we got the enigma machine, I think you will notice a lot of HMS ships mentioned.And Look I am not complaining, its just I wish when they claim to be making moves that are realistic, they bother to include the realism and history. seconded.another example: that new russel crowe movie. in the original story the americans were the bad guys, so why not chance it and make it the french? quite a pathetic move if you ask me.   I fail to see how that has anything at all to do with historical movies fudging facts in America's favor.I think we can all agree that when it comes to entertainment, you don't want to present yourself as the bad guy.  So for fictional stories, it only makes sense that an American screenwriter will not make a movie about a British ship destroying an American one.  Had the original story been a historical fact, then you could complain.  As it stands, it was completely inconsequential.  You only see the French crew once, and only the captain actually speaks.  So who cares if its a French ship or an American one?  Might as well just pick the one that your audience will understand.  We all understand the desire to kill French people, but no so much the desire to kill Americans.With regard to the overall topic, it should be noted that although Americans are typically the heros, America does not have to be.  Take the Bourne Identity, for instance.Reign of Fire is about a bunch of British people saving the day, although Americans do teach them how to do it.  In that regard, its a lot like ID4.  It was a global effort that saved the world, although the Americans were the driving force.*edit: The Great Escape had more British prisoners than American prisoners.  Although I think the important British people all ended up dead, so maybe its not such a good example.And Jean Luc Picard is French.  CM   [edited by - Conner McCloud on February 6, 2004 12:14:44 PM];quote:Might as well just pick the one that your audience will understand. We all understand the desire to kill French people, but no so much the desire to kill Americans.no, i think thats lame. sure, it probably is what sells (id presonally wouldnt mind at all to see a movie about dutch imperialism. id find it interesting), but even if youre not pretending to do a historically correct movie, its still presenting a skewed view of the world, for only one reason: appealing to the nationalistic feelings of the polulace. nationalism sucks (IMHO).just as the germans are harming their ability to speak english by redoing all voices in german, americans are harming their abilty to reflect critically upon themselves by only making movies about the things they like to see. ;quote:Original post by capn_midnight  I, for one, am not offended by American''s portrayed as heroes of the world.I mean, we actually did save the world once.    Odd.. when was this and why doesn''t the rest of the world know about it? ;  *cough* 