   Halo Franchise
  Hey, i just posted this to get you peoples opinion on what the Halo franchise will be like in maybe 5 or 10 years. it seems as if Microsoft is trying to squeeze all of the life out of Halo to make a quick buck(example. Halo Wars)and will it end up having the same fate as the Sonic franchise due to nintendo pushing out countless sonic games to make a quick buck(example. all sonic games after 2003)please leave your feedback(maybe im right, maybe im wrong tell me)   
  your argument assumes the series ever had any life in it to begin with and wasn't about making a buck all along   ;  Sorry to be prosaic, but that what video games ultimately are. It's not like they tried to make a cultural statement in the first place anyway.   ;  I think the difference between games like Sonic and games like Halo is that Sonic was very quickly outdated and never had a great translation into 3D.  Current generation games (and even last considering Halo was on the original Xbox) haven't had that transition into a whole other dimension so it's kind of like they're living in the house they were born in.Yes there are cash in games (Halo Wars) but if Bungie makes something like ODST or Reach, more power to them.  It may not be their franchise anymore, but to me it still feels like they consider it their baby (otherwise I'm sure they would have moved on by now).   ;  What's wrong with making money?The Halo universe has attracted a pretty large following. It'd be downright stupid not to exploit that. Halo fans get more games, and are therefore happy; and Bungie sells more games, and are therefore happy (and rich).Capitalism 101.   ;  I don't get how Halo became so popular.  As if it wasn't obvious enough that they were whoring the franchise by releasing books, IMO that wasn't so much expanding the Halo universe as attempting to fill in the 10 mile wide plotholes in the game stories whilst making a fast $$$ in the process.  Personally, I think the Halo franchise was a fluke success because the original version was an amazing game which launched a console revolution, and the other two in the series were cash-ins.  Luckily, Bungie have a large number of pubescent, nauseating fanboys who literally say stuff like "We love Bungie", "I want to buy Bungie a present", "Bungie won't let us down... believe" etc.  Not kidding - go and look at the Bungie.net forums, it's like some kind of sickening cult at times.I thought Halo 3 was a letdown, that is to say that Halo 2 is still better in my opinion while Halo:CE had the best campaign.  Bungie have been getting more swaggery and more cocky as time goes on, yet the quality of the games has been going down and the Halo 3 multiplayer experience feels dumbed down and stale.  People say "But it has Forge BUNGIE R T3H AWESUMZ!" - yes, I'm so excited over a clunky, restrictive level editor with severe usability issues and crap controls (come on, how hard would it be to have something as Goddamned simple as "Snap to grid"?), plus there's even a bug on one of the maps which means some objects spawn in random positions when you reload your map again.  Wow, guys, I'm blown away, this is something truly epic.  Halo 3's gameplay is noticeably slower, the weapons feel like toys and are overbalanced to the point where they do so little damage that it's not much fun at all and the multiplayer maps are generally pretty rough around the edges with some low quality variants occasionally stepping in.  I haven't played H3 on Xbox LIVE since last October and I really don't miss it at all.I hold out little hope for ODST and even Bungie and the Bungie.net tards aren't saying all that much about it, not as much as you might think.  I am not paying £39.99 for a ~4 hour campaign, identical multiplayer, and a knock-off GoW2 Horde/CoD:W@W Zombies mode which everyone will immediately flock to as some kind of Divine Intervention and amazingly original just because it's Halo and made by Bungie and it appears that, like vehicle sections, all new games must include some kind of Horde/survival mode in order to be accepted by the end users.  If I bother playing it at all it'll be a rental or borrowed, I have no desire to buy it.The Halo franchise died years ago and its corpse is now being eaten by vultures.  I get a feeling that Bungie don't want more Halo but MS are basically forcing them to just to make more money, and that's kind of sad.  Bungie's lack of information and hype on ODST says to me that they're not terribly bothered or caring for it and Halo:Reach, whatever the fuck that turns out to be, really should be the end.  Let Bungie actually do something they want for a change; hell, they might even make it kinda good.Halo had a good run for the most part, now it needs to be put to bed before its good legacy is turned to roadkill.   ;  Fine then don't buy it. Doesn't cost you anything.It's just a crappy console FPS, like every other crappy console FPS. Some people like them.   ;  If Bungie didn't want to make Halo games they wouldn't make them. Microsoft doesn't own them anymore. Microsoft could get another developer to make Halo games (like they did with Halo Wars).Halo's a good game. Personally it's my favourite multiplayer shooter ever (I don't enjoy playing games on PC for what it's worth).I don't see what the big deal is. It was a 9 year span from Halo 1 to Halo 3 if I'm not mistaken, so it's not like they have been milking the series. This year is the first year where we see the side stories and spin offs.   ;Quote:Original post by ukdeveloperI thought Halo 3 was a letdown, that is to say that Halo 2 is still better in my opinion while Halo:CE had the best campaign.  Bungie have been getting more swaggery and more cocky as time goes on, yet the quality of the games has been going down and the Halo 3 multiplayer experience feels dumbed down and stale.  ... Halo 3's gameplay is noticeably slower, the weapons feel like toys and are overbalanced to the point where they do so little damage that it's not much fun at all and the multiplayer maps are generally pretty rough around the edges with some low quality variants occasionally stepping in.  I haven't played H3 on Xbox LIVE since last October and I really don't miss it at all.I hold out little hope for ODST and even Bungie and the Bungie.net tards aren't saying all that much about it, not as much as you might think.  I am not paying £39.99 for a ~4 hour campaign, identical multiplayer, and a knock-off GoW2 Horde/CoD:W@W Zombies mode which everyone will immediately flock to as some kind of Divine Intervention and amazingly original just because it's Halo and made by Bungie and it appears that, like vehicle sections, all new games must include some kind of Horde/survival mode in order to be accepted by the end users.  If I bother playing it at all it'll be a rental or borrowed, I have no desire to buy it.The Halo franchise died years ago and its corpse is now being eaten by vultures.  I get a feeling that Bungie don't want more Halo but MS are basically forcing them to just to make more money, and that's kind of sad.  Bungie's lack of information and hype on ODST says to me that they're not terribly bothered or caring for it and Halo:Reach, whatever the fuck that turns out to be, really should be the end.  Let Bungie actually do something they want for a change; hell, they might even make it kinda good.Halo has obviously gone through major changes and I would go so far as to say each game of the core series (CE, 2, 3) have each expanded on the previous game by making the gameplay more solid.  In CE the Pistol was EPICLY over powerful, so in 2 the BR was added.  In 2 the 'noob combo' was too powerful so they dulled certain weapons (BR is still about the same if I recall) and added in equipment so you can last longer in smaller firefights.Granted, I enjoy 3 more than the other games.There are still questions floating around as to how long ODST is.  They said 4-6 hours when the game was first announced but I've heard that number may have changed.  Plus it's an open world game, so it's like saying Fallout 3 is about a 10 hour game (I've spent way more time messing around the world than doing the actual main story).Finally, Bungie isn't owned by Microsoft, so as I understand it they could easily go off and do their own thing but they prefer to work on Halo.  And the book comment could be said about Mass Effect, Gears of War, and many other video games.  It's called branding.   ;  Halo 1 & 2 were horribly balanced, and 2 took way to long to get multiplayer cheats eliminated. Nostalgia goggles aside, Halo 3 is a much, much more polished game. It may not have a gameplay revolution, but it's still a good game.Halo Wars was pretty good, hopefully they can keep it together for future games.   