   You know how theres  that idiot salesman (for guitar people)
  while all the rest of the salespeople are knowledgable people at guitar stores? For example, i had purchased a Schecter C1+ and the bridge pickup was microphonic so i took it back the next day.So I tell the person who sold it to me the problem and he calls over the idiot sales man over to help him. So we plug in the guitar and he goes: "If it''s gonna misbehave its gonna misbehave on clean". Right then I was stunned, so I said, "but it feedsback on the bridge with distortion". To wich he replied, "Feedback is a natural part of distortion so learn to control it". So thinking he wasnt clear I said, "Well whenever I dont put my hand over the strings with the neck pickup, it feeds back. ok, but when i DO put my hands on the bridge pickup it DOES feedback, but with the neck pup it doesnt. So its microphic somehow." So then he says that if you choose any guitar on the display rack itll do the same thing. So he left and I asked the salesman who sold it to me to hand me the wolfgang being displayed. I proceded to PROVE that the wolfgang did NOT feedback with the same gain setting on the bridge pup full volume. (I even heightned the gain) So the person who sold me the guitar (who is knowledgable) calls over the manager and the manager says that it''s probably a loose wire. (And I bet he thought the idiot salesman was an idiot now). So then I exchanged it for a C1 elite (i still paid the difference though). which is not microphonic at all (In fact, I think the one i got was a dud because all the other showroom schecters didnt have microphonic feedback). In the end, even if a salesman is 50, white hair, can beat your ass at guitar, he might know shit about them. Heck this other employee he playested it after i returned it said it was the fecking bridge pickup.Its like driving at 60 mph and the windshield breaking, its not supposed to happn and you have to be a fuckhead to think it''s normal. 
  There is no way to avoid dumbass salesmen.  It is just not possible. ;  Agreed. The trick with dumbass salesmen is to bewilder them early on with quickly-spoken technical jargon, while giving off a brusque aura. The idea is to make them afraid of opening their mouths and humiliating themselves. At the same time, though, you don''t want to get them angry, since then they might lie to you about what they have in stock or what specials they have available. The ideal is a mixture of fear and respect.    "Sneftel is correct, if rather vulgar." --Flarelocke ;quote:Original post by Sneftel  Agreed. The trick with dumbass salesmen is to bewilder them early on with quickly-spoken technical jargon, while giving off a brusque aura. The idea is to make them afraid of opening their mouths and humiliating themselves. At the same time, though, you don''t want to get them angry, since then they might lie to you about what they have in stock or what specials they have available. The ideal is a mixture of fear and respect.    I like doing that to people in stores that sell computer parts.  It''s particularly enjoyable because although I''m 14 I actually look younger, so occasionally people get rather scared of me.  For example.   "Excuse me sir, but does this monitor use an standard RBG connector or a DVI connector, and also, this card says that the maximum resolution is 1280x1024, although at 1024x768 it appears to be running at it''s native resolution"    "It uses... um... a normal monitor plug.  And it does run at 1280x1024."   "Are you entirely sure?"   "Yes." (Proceeds to try running it in 1280x1024.  It flickers strangely and shows up distorted)  "That''s just the video card."I see...   ;  Haha, I hate those guys. Luckily, my local guitar store has these two guys that are somehow ALWAYS there. Last time I was there I was talking to one of them, and he was basically telling me about minute differences between pre- and post-CBS Fenders, and all the minute changes in each Fender model since the first ones in ''52. That''s why you have to go to those little mom and pop places. They''re run by people who actually know what they''re doing. 