Iím not a CG hater and have defended her in this thread, but I have to admit when I saw the climbing for equality thing my eyes rolled so hard they almost spun completely around. That isnít going to raise awareness for anything and plenty of women have summited Everest.

Good luck telling people, fam or not, who should be their role models. My father thought John Wayne was a hero and the VietNam war was a good idea, and my parents thought Negores should probably have more rights, but they should just be patient.

My parents being nice well-meaning people who demanded as much as possible I believe the same way they did didn't have the effect they desired. I suspect such parental admonitions don't work much better in other peopel's families, either.

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Good luck telling people, fam or not, who should be their role models. My father thought John Wayne was a hero and the VietNam war was a good idea, and my parents thought Negores should probably have more rights, but they should just be patient.

My parents being nice well-meaning people who demanded as much as possible I believe the same way they did didn't have the effect they desired. I suspect such parental admonitions don't work much better in other peopel's families, either.

I am not giving up that easily. More Vasco Rossi and less BBC on tap next season.

She knows people are going to talk about whatever she's doing, it's part of her brand (or whatever).

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She knows if she attaches a cause to what she's doing it will prompt discussion, regardless of whether or not it has any direct connection to what she's doing.

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It may not necessarily be intended as a literal demonstration of equality, or a process intended to directly effect equality.
BUT: now here we are, talking about equality....and what that means in this context and beyond; not to mention discussing her and her motives, and her friggin' influenza and blanket situation.

Spaying and Neutering your pets has fuckall to do with the Price is Right, but Bob Barker said that shit every single day for decades.

Mission accomplished.

I just think she's pretty, and seems little and vulnerable, and she's not fitting into peoples' expectations of little-pretty-vulnerable-girl so there's a lot of misplaced subconscious parental scolding vibes coming at her in a variety of forms.... Might be worth taking a pause to remind ourselves that she's a grown-ass woman, and that being open about her vulnerabilities doesn't mean she's weaker than anyone else, it only means she's more communicative about much of the same processes (failures, negative emotions, injuries) other people have faced in silence.

My less thoughtful thoughts. The whole idea of climbing Everest is pointless. Even if you think the cause flag she is hauling up with her is pointless it seems to me it still matches the mission so I don't get what there is to be uptight about either way.

Admittedly posting from a Target parking lot somewhere in Iowa listening to bad Italian music on Spotify in a twisted educational mission to shape my girl into a shadow of the great Sofia Goggia so what do I know.

I think CG is an elite athlete who has earned every bit of her success and then some. No doubt she has dealt with some awful bullshit and roadblocks that male athletes and other female athletes have not encountered. Her resume is legit and I hope she's successful on Everest.

My problem is with the message - it seems half-baked. I dislike "awareness" campaigns in general because the effects and motives are nebulous at best and totally inauthentic and self-serving at worst. I went to the website, and looked at the "media package" for the campaign. It is laughably thin, basically 10 bullet points on possible instagram posts. If I was still in college, I'd be embarrassed to hand it in as a freshman level project.

If CG is actually committed to this cause and is just bad at creating an impactful, actionable campaign, so be it. Failing, but at least HONESTLY trying.

The less generous explanation is that #climbforequality is an afterthought, and a way to gain exposure/sponsorship/meaning for an objective that is impressive, but not groundbreaking.

Currently more convinced of the latter. It reeks of BS to me. Give me some actionable objectives and more than a few hashtags and maybe I can buy in. Otherwise I'll continue to assume that this is a flimsy attempt to legitimize a self-serving goal.

PS - I'll probably climb and ski something moderately tall this week. I'm dedicating my personal pursuit of fun/glory/challenge to building awareness about single use plastic. If you want to sponsor my climb, PM me.

I think CG is an elite athlete who has earned every bit of her success and then some. No doubt she has dealt with some awful bullshit and roadblocks that male athletes and other female athletes have not encountered. Her resume is legit and I hope she's successful on Everest.

My problem is with the message - it seems half-baked. I dislike "awareness" campaigns in general because the effects and motives are nebulous at best and totally inauthentic and self-serving at worst. I went to the website, and looked at the "media package" for the campaign. It is laughably thin, basically 10 bullet points on possible instagram posts. If I was still in college, I'd be embarrassed to hand it in as a freshman level project.

If CG is actually committed to this cause and is just bad at creating an impactful, actionable campaign, so be it. Failing, but at least HONESTLY trying.

The less generous explanation is that #climbforequality is an afterthought, and a way to gain exposure/sponsorship/meaning for an objective that is impressive, but not groundbreaking.

Currently more convinced of the latter. It reeks of BS to me. Give me some actionable objectives and more than a few hashtags and maybe I can buy in. Otherwise I'll continue to assume that this is a flimsy attempt to legitimize a self-serving goal.

PS - I'll probably climb and ski something moderately tall this week. I'm dedicating my personal pursuit of fun/glory/challenge to building awareness about single use plastic. If you want to sponsor my climb, PM me.

I donate 100 disposable McDonald's straws that you can dump at the top to illustrate the problem.

The less generous explanation is that #climbforequality is an afterthought, and a way to gain exposure/sponsorship/meaning for an objective that is impressive, but not groundbreaking.

No argument.

People fund big mountains from every imaginable source. I bet CG believes in this cause more than the next climber believes in say, chase bank or pepsi cola or whatever companies logo they have stamped on their tent, and whomever they send their live-feed updates to. And I wouldn't argue that point.

Ultimately CG seems like a rad athlete, who I want to succeed.

We've always half-joked that avoiding the 'Kathmandu crap' and getting to BC healthy, was the crux of the expedition.

The knee and the flu-like symptoms give me pause - I hope those settle down.

The amount of support/amenities on that particular expedition should help. I hope they're safe up there.