I picked this system up a couple of days ago, expansion pack included, for 20 dollars. I also bought Turok Seeds of Evil and Perfect dark for under $10. I also recently bought a couple of other vintage systems, so you can say I enjoy the old games. While I have stated in other reviews that I will get a "next gen" sytem soon, I'm still enjoying the "oldies" While this system may be "outdated" by today's standards, don't be so quick to rule the N64 out. The graphics and sound for it's time are not bad, and the controller fits well in my hand. Not a bad deal at all.