If you are looking for an old fashioned hand crack ice cream maker that uses salt and ice - this is the only choice I have been able to find.  Unfortunately, I was only able to make ice cream about 5 times before I noticed the gears were stripping. I then took a closer look at the hand crank system - and it is made very cheaply. Additionally, even though I have been diligent about rinsing out the bucket when I am done, it is still rusting on the inside.  This is presumedly from the salt water needed to freeze the ice cream.  Still, since I very much like hand cranking, I am now looking for a replacement piece for the hand crank system and hoping it will last more than a season.