i've played dungeons and dragons 4e for a good year now and my friends and i are taking a break from our campaign. one of my players told me that we should try pathfinder, and i told him how i've been interested in trying it out too. since D&D is going through a beta playtest for its new edition i figure why not? i saw this box at my local hobby store so i bought it. here's what you get, a pack of die (d4,d6,d8,2d10 one with tenths the other in one values, d12, and a d20), a nice little sheet telling you want to do if you want to be a player or a Dm or GM (i prefer DM), which you get 2 books a GM guide and a Player's guide, 4 pre made characters and 4 blanket character sheets. now! this is where it loses a star because after we played a quick session with the module adventure inside we like the system and since we have some experience with table top RPG in general we have not played 3.5e of D&D which this is based from. that's not a bad thing, but my main beef is the character creation and character sheets. after this box i bought the core rulebook, bestiary, and game mastery guide. in the core rulebook the character sheet towards the back is WAY different than the beginner's character sheet. in the beginner's character sheet its conveniently made in an order which is easy and effective and not too much of a hassle. in the core rulebook you have different organization problems also new terms which the beginner's box left out are the CMB (Combat Maneuver Bonus) and CMD (Combat Maneuver Defense). i know they're different its a reason its called the beginner's box, but i feel it should still cover those terms especially since i'm not familiar with that kind of bonus and defense.