My fiance and I got these to throw on a local football field and that was possibly some of the most fun we have ever had playing Frisbee. These rings take a few throws to get down but once you get it down, Frisbee becomes 10x more fun! I highly suggest getting these if you are on the fence. I will say though, you need to have a huge area to throw this ring, otherwise you will spend most your time getting them out of trees.