I ordered two of these and they arrived yesterday. One was already cracked and had a big chunk of plastic missing in the center area of the saucer. I chose to return both of these. I have big heavy 14"-16" planters and these were not what I thought I would be getting in the way of 'rock hard' thick plastic saucers. Even had one not been damaged, I would have been disappointed. This is one of the items I will have to go to Lowe's or Home Depot to get so that I'll know what I'm getting. I based my purchase on the reviews and this time it didn't work out. I worked in the nursery industry all my life-most of that as a grower of bedding plants. I do know quality plastic. These may say that they are 5X thicker than others but they are still flimsy.