got this to try a little something different. been doing latch hook rugs for years, so decided it was time to get the granny look, and try some needlepoint and cross stitch. I enjoyed doing it very much. was very surprised. took a little thinking on how to get started, as this was new to me. but came out good, and happy with one of my first try's with this. will buy more needlepoint, and keep them as a back up, or switch off once in a while.