I use these for my painting class. I searched around for the best deal and these were it. Art stores want $50 for a set of three, which is what I needed but for this price it was well worth it! So much cheaper and they are the exact same product as what was in the hobby lobby and Joannes minus the fact you got more markers. I like also that there is a fine tip and chiseled tip. Ink lasts too. Have had them 2 months now. I recommend these markers! Ya can't beat it!!