# Throwing a ball from the surface of the earth so that it ends up in a circular orbit

Assume the Earth to be a uniform sphere of mass M and radius R. Also let the Earth be stationary initially. Assume further that there is all other stellar bodies are very far away so as to have no influence in this problem.

A ball of mass $$m$$ is to be thrown from the surface of the Earth so that it ultimately ends up moving in a circular orbit at a height $$h$$ from the surface of the Earth. How should the ball be thrown, as in, what should be its initial velocity and, in particular, what should be the angle $$\theta$$ of the initial velocity with the radial vector from the Earth's center to its initial position on the surface of the Earth?

My attempt at the solution:

Since the Earth-ball system is isolated, its energy would be conserved. Let the initial speed of the ball be $$v_0$$ and the final speed be $$v_f$$. We'll have the following equation:

$$\frac{1}{2}m v_0 ^2 - \frac{GMm}{R} = \frac{1}{2}mv_f^2 - \frac{GMm}{R+h}$$

Next, we know that when the ball will finally be in circular orbit, the gravitational force will be providing the necessary centripetal acceleration for it to maintain circular motion, which gives us the following equation:

$$\frac{mv_f^2}{R+h} = \frac{GMm}{(R+h)^2}$$

Besides, since gravity is a central force, the angular momentum of the ball about the center of the Earth will remain conserved, which yields the following equation:

$$mv_0R \sin(\theta) = mv_f(R+h)$$

That completes setting up three equations for three variables $$- v_0, v_f, \theta$$. Solving them, we would obtain the following values for each:

$$v_o = \sqrt\frac{GM(R+2h)}{R(R+h)}$$

$$v_f = \sqrt\frac{GM}{R+h}$$

$$\theta = \sin^{-1} \Biggl( \frac{1+\frac{h}{R}}{\sqrt{1+\frac{2h}{R}}} \Biggr)$$

However, it is observed that for $$\theta$$, the argument of $$\sin^{-1}$$ is always greater than or equal to one, being one only if $$h$$ is zero. The proof may be carried out by initially assuming that the argument of $$\sin^{-1}$$ is less than or equal to one for $$h$$ greater than or equal to $$0$$, and solving the inequality will yield that $$h$$ must be less than or equal to zero. So the only acceptable solution is for $$h$$ to be zero. This just winds up being the case of throwing the ball with sufficient speed tangentially on the surface of Earth so that it keeps orbiting on the Earth's surface itself. Thus, there is no possible way to just throw a ball so that it ends up in a circular orbit of certain desired radius.

The problem is that I don't see any physical intuition for why this should be true; either that or I am doing something wrong. Any guidance or help would be greatly appreciated!

This problem has one solution. h=0. Throw the ball horizontally at orbital velocity for your altitude.

If you think about it, one of the rules of orbits is that they must eventually come back to where they were. If you throw a ball and it orbits, it must eventually come back around and hit you in the back of the head.

(Incidentally, every ball you throw enters an elliptical orbit like this, but it typically intersects the ground before it gets interesting)

Since all orbits must pass through the thrower, there is only one circular orbit which can be attained, which is the orbit at the height of the thrower. There are several elliptical ones which will leave the atmosphere before coming around to smack you in the back of the head (ignoring air resistance).

To achieve a circular obit, rockets boost into an elliptical orbit, then do a second burn at apogee to "circularize" the orbit. You need to be able to do this second burn in order to achieve a circular orbit at any altitude other than your present one.

• Thank you so much! I don't really know about elliptical orbits right now. But could you please elucidate on why it is a law of orbits that they must pass from where they start? If it is a law then it does make sense to have only one solution, but why is this a law? Thanks again! – Suyash Kumar Mar 23 '19 at 1:29
• If you solve the equations of motion for an object when the only force applied to it is the force of gravity from a much more massive object, all possible trajectories are conic sections: circle, ellipse, hyperbola, and line (line occurs if your velocity is exactly in line with the center of the planet). Circles and ellipses always come back to their original point. Hyperbolas technically do not, but its debatable whether they are "orbits" or merely "trajectories." Thus, if you call it an orbit, it comes back to its original point (unless you call hyperbolas "orbits," and then there's that) – Cort Ammon Mar 23 '19 at 2:02
• If you're interested in really getting an intuitive grasp on these things, and have a little money to spare, this XKCD comic points in the direction I would recommend! – Cort Ammon Mar 23 '19 at 2:04

If there is no air resistance, the orbit will always pass through the initial point, so the ball cannot have a circular orbit at a height $$h\neq 0$$.

• Why must the orbit always pass through the initial point? Sorry if that is dumb. – Suyash Kumar Mar 23 '19 at 1:24
• The basic idea of an orbit: it keeps going around the same. So if it goes through a point once, it’ll do it again. – Bob Jacobsen Mar 23 '19 at 1:27
• @BobJacobsen I kind of get it. I mean it fits in very intuitively, but I wondered if it is possible for something to go into orbit "eventually". Like begin periodic orbital motion after a while naturally. Also, is this a reason why this cannot be done naturally, as it turns out in this case? – Suyash Kumar Mar 23 '19 at 1:32
• @SuyashKumar : It is a well-known result of nonrelativistic mechanics that bounded orbits in $\frac{1}{r}$ potential are ellipses (possibly degenerate). I don't take into account the possibility of collision with Earth. In the relativistic case the ball will eventually pass arbitrarily close to the initial point due to the Poincare recurrence theorem. – akhmeteli Mar 23 '19 at 1:39
• @akhmeteli, I guess I'll have to wait to take more Mechanics until I can fully understand your comment. Thanks for the help though! – Suyash Kumar Mar 23 '19 at 1:47

Great question! :) First of all, your analysis is perfectly correct, or, in other words, you have already proved that an object cannot be thrown from the surface of the earth so as for it to perform the motion in a circular orbit around the earth in a radius larger (or smaller) than the radius of the earth. Also, unlike what you seem to think, it wouldn't be possible to make the argument of the arcsin appropriate with an $$h. The expression that goes into the argument of the arcsin is always greater than one except for at $$h=R$$. This is illustrated in the graph below.

The way to absorb this result might be along these lines (as expressed in other answers as well): Given an initial position and velocity, the path of a projectile is already determined under a central gravitational influence. Practically, this path might be interrupted when the path intersects with the surface of the earth, but as long as the object is in a free-fall, it remains on this specific path. Now, there are only a few options for this path: it can either be an ellipse, a circle, a parabola, or a hyperbola. The latter two categories don't apply to bound states. So, for a bound state, the path of a projectile can only be an ellipse or a circle. Thus, if you start out as a projectile whose path (by the virtue of the initial conditions that you start out with) is an ellipse then at no point in future can it suddenly become a circle--it will remain ellipse. Thus, if you want to perform a circular motion around the earth then you need to start out with initial conditions that match the circular trajectory which very much includes the initial point that you start out with. In other words, you can only perform a circular motion in a circular orbit that passes through the point from which your motion starts--and this is precisely what you proved.

• @SolomonSlow Yes, if you start out with initial conditions pertaining to a certain ellipse then you cannot go to another ellipse. I'm sorry if I misunderstood your comment--I am not sure what you wanted to ask. – Dvij D.C. Mar 23 '19 at 2:29
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