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# Although one link in the chain was demonstrated to be weak,

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91. Although one link in the chain was demonstrated to be weak, but not sufficiently so to require the recall of the automobile.
(A) demonstrated to be weak, but not sufficiently so to require
(B) demonstrated as weak, but it was not sufficiently so that it required
(C) demonstrably weak, but not sufficiently so to require
(D) demonstrably weak, it was not so weak as to require
(E) demonstrably weak, it was not weak enough that it required
Any ideas....?
demonstrably is correct usage???...
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16 Jul 2009, 19:56
going by idioms , So X as to Y , D is correct
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16 Jul 2009, 21:27
Agree with D.

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19 Nov 2009, 01:44
The second part of sentence requres noun and verb, so, A,C out
Among B, D, E - D the most consise and clear

+1 for D
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27 Dec 2009, 11:08
First of all, please stop saying "IMO D" without giving specific reasons, it's helping nobody.

I realize that the original answer is D, but to be honest...

"Although one link in the chain was demonstrated to be weak.."

has a completely different meaning than

"Although one link in the chain was demonstrably weak..."

The former implies a deliberate action that revealed the weakness of the link; the latter says it is so weak that it could be revealed, but does not imply that it was done so. So yes, D is the correct usage of "so ... as to" but it changes the meaning of the sentence.

Any thoughts?
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26 Jan 2010, 14:34
KP03 wrote:
First of all, please stop saying "IMO D" without giving specific reasons, it's helping nobody.

I realize that the original answer is D, but to be honest...

"Although one link in the chain was demonstrated to be weak.."

has a completely different meaning than

"Although one link in the chain was demonstrably weak..."

The former implies a deliberate action that revealed the weakness of the link; the latter says it is so weak that it could be revealed, but does not imply that it was done so. So yes, D is the correct usage of "so ... as to" but it changes the meaning of the sentence.

Any thoughts?

GMAT gives u the liberty of changing the meaning in case you have no other option available. The reason for this liberty is that the author of the question, himself would have wanted to convey the latter, but he didn't know how to put the same across! As in such benefit of doubt does appy to the test taker once he has no other choice left.

Would urge to someone [moderators] to comment (back it up) on my understanding above...!

Having said that.... if u even keep the original meaning intact in this question, the second half of those sentence is absurd and gramatically wrong which is not accepted in GMAT at any cost! Hence correct grammer + change in meaning (if avoidable) gets a preference over wrong grammer!
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KP03 wrote:
First of all, please stop saying "IMO D" without giving specific reasons, it's helping nobody.

I realize that the original answer is D, but to be honest...

"Although one link in the chain was demonstrated to be weak.."

has a completely different meaning than

"Although one link in the chain was demonstrably weak..."

The former implies a deliberate action that revealed the weakness of the link; the latter says it is so weak that it could be revealed, but does not imply that it was done so. So yes, D is the correct usage of "so ... as to" but it changes the meaning of the sentence.

Any thoughts?

GMAT gives u the liberty of changing the meaning in case you have no other option available. The reason for this liberty is that the author of the question, himself would have wanted to convey the latter, but he didn't know how to put the same across! As in such benefit of doubt does appy to the test taker once he has no other choice left.

Would urge to someone [moderators] to comment (back it up) on my understanding above...!

Having said that.... if u even keep the original meaning intact in this question, the second half of those sentence is absurd and gramatically wrong which is not accepted in GMAT at any cost! Hence correct grammer + change in meaning (if avoidable) gets a preference over wrong grammer!

Yes, moderators are greatly needed here
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link in the chain is weak....correct

link in the chain demonstrated to be weak.....incorrect

so [adjective] as to [verb]....is the correct form.

Although one link in the chain was demonstrated to be weak, but not sufficiently so to require the recall of the automobile.
(A) demonstrated to be weak, but not sufficiently so to require
(B) demonstrated as weak, but it was not sufficiently so that it required
(C) demonstrably weak, but not sufficiently so to require - 'although' and 'but' is incorrect
(D) demonstrably weak, it was not so [weak] as to [require] - CORRECT
(E) demonstrably weak, it was not weak enough that it required - wordy
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15 Aug 2010, 19:19
So X as to Y, correct Idiom usage so D
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21 Dec 2010, 10:51
D for me..was confused between demonstrably whether its the right form or not..but went with D
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23 Dec 2010, 08:27
i went with E. wats wrong there. is it not concise?
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08 Jan 2011, 00:05
So X as to Y , D is correct ---idiomatic
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24 Jan 2011, 05:26
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IMO, the approach to this problem should be to eliminate the ungrammatical ones first. A coordinating conjunction such as ‘but’ does require a clause after that, as many have pointed out. So whether meaning is changed or not changed, choices A and C have to be kicked out first, for using just a phrase after the ‘but

I would like to stress another factor then, which seems to be missing in the discussions.

What is the reference of the pronoun ‘it’ in the two places in each of the choices B and E. Agreed the first ‘it’ refers to the subject ‘one link’, but the second one has no referent. One might argue that the second ‘it’ simply holds a filler value or a place value. But to use one and the same pronoun in the same sentence in two different senses, is clumsy and improper. So I think, B and E deserve to be rejected. This leaves D as the best of the lot, without the controversy of the second pronoun 'it' and with a right idiom.
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27 Jan 2011, 22:38
demonstrated to be ... is the wrong idion usage ?
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07 Apr 2011, 04:59
The correct idiom is "Not So X as to Y". That is why option D is correct. "So X as to Y" is always wrong.
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26 Apr 2011, 22:23
shouldn't we consider tense as well ? required / require ?

Although one link in the chain was...

(D) demonstrably weak, it was not so weak as to require
(E) demonstrably weak, it was not weak enough that it required
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30 Jul 2012, 23:26
Althought D. is idiomatically correct, shouldn't E. be the more appropriate (although slightly wordy) answer since 'required' is used correctly in past tense?
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