The War Over The Wives
LEMON: So, Liz and John are back. John, I want to give you. I want you to give me you thoughts on Trump's handling of the abortion questions this week. Why is he struggling to have a consistent answer on those?</s>PHILLIPS: Well first of all, it was a stupid thing to say. He shouldn't have said it. He's a Presbyterian from New York and he's running and state that has a lot of social conservatives. So it's not an issue the Presbyterians from New York spend a lot of time talking about. And frankly, it was a bit of pandering and pandering usually never gets you anywhere. Republicans see through it, so my advice to him on this issue, is that on the Melania Trump issue it's a bad week, shake it off, try to mitigate the damage, move on to New York which is a bigger state and win there.</s>LEMON: Do you believe that, you know, he said his Presbyterian but as a presidential candidate, he should probably have a concise and consistent answer on this particular issue. Do you think he's pro- life?</s>PHILLIPS: Well look, I mean I'm from California. And culturally those of us from California and New York don't talk about abortion the same way people in the Deep South do or people in Midwest do. It's just not something that comes up all the time. So it's not surprising to me that it's not a subject that he's passionate about in the sense that if he's elected, he's not going to go to a warrior on social issues. I don't think his going to go to war and abortion. I don't think his going to go to war on gay marriage. I think Ted Cruz frankly would. He certainly -- who talking about who has better stripes as a social conservative that's definitely Ted Cruz. But I don't think that wins in a general election.</s>LEMON: Liz, do you want to weigh on this, so I can move on.</s>MAIR: Yeah. I think it's really interesting that we just had two Trump's surrogates back to back basically say he's not going to do anything to rein an abortion in this country which is consistent with Trumps historical position. I mean if you go and you look at where he's been on the issue of abortion. He's been in favor of abortion as he says as far as it goes which presumably means right up to the point of delivery. He has no opposition to partial birth abortion, he's made that very clear interviews. And, so I think what we're really seeing here is the real Donald Trump. And maybe he gets credits for being authentic, but he's certainly tying himself up in knots trying to be authentic well also saying what people what they want to hear.</s>LEMON: Hey Liz.</s>MAIR: And it basically this sounds like a liberal who's trying to speak conservative as a second language in doing it really, really poor.</s>LEMON: I want to ask you about ...</s>MAIR: And that's -- what we expect. Yes.</s>LEMON: I want to ask you about women. On the same subject. On women, his numbers are sinking with women this week.</s>MAIR: Yup.</s>LEMON: Do you think these comments are catching up with him?</s>MAIR: I think every thing's catching up with him. I think women ultimately women are people who, yeah I think many of us have been hit on by people who kind of bear a lot of hall marks of Donald Trump over the years. You know, the guy he's a lot of bluster. He's actually not that hot maybe he's got a lot of money but that's about the only thing. That's interesting about him ...</s>LEMON: I got 20 seconds.</s>MAIR: ... and trying to solve. Realistically we're used to saying no to that guy. We're not going to date him. We're certainly not going to vote for him. So that's what's going on here.</s>LEMON: John, I think we should probably just be quiet. Thank you. Have a great weekend. I'll see you guys soon. I appreciate you coming on. We'll be right back.