Police Have Search Warrant on Baby Lisa`s Home
CAPT. STEVE YOUNG, KANSAS SITY, MISSOURI POLICE: If it`s coming out of</s>SMITH: That`s Captain Steve Young. He is frantically helping to lead the search for Baby Lisa. Now, tonight, police, crime scene technicians and detectives scoured a wooden area juts east of where Lisa Irwin vanished from her family`s home. They turned up nothing. They thought they had a lead and it turned out it wasn`t her. But we`re hearing reports that baby wipes, diapers also found at an abandoned home where police searched for Lisa. Now, CNN Correspondent Jim Spellman is in Missouri. And, Jim, you know, you did something very interesting. You walked around the area. You`ve got a sense of the home. Tell us what you discovered in walking around, especially in terms of how someone could access a little baby and take her out of that home.</s>SPELLMAN: Two important things. One, you can access the backyard of the house through a small public area with a stream running through it and get back there basically going to the front of no homes. And when you come back out, your car, if you had a car, you`re in an area that really just on the sides of homes, not on the front. The second thing I discovered that I thought was very interesting is walking, you only have to walk nine homes down to the right and turn and you`re into a densely wooded area that we know the FBI and even the National Guard have focused their searches at least two times in this wooded area. So when you really get into the geography of this neighborhood, you start to see some possibilities open up for how somebody could get away from this home. Ryan, I want to bring you up to date on some important information. In the last two or three hours, we`ve seen police cars here in front of the Baby Lisa`s home. We just discovered that`s because the police here have a search warrant to search this home and have barred the parents of Baby Lisa from entering this home again. That explains why the police are here. We haven`t seen them inside. We haven`t seen lights on inside, but we know they have a search warrant to search the home. They have searched it before, but now with the search warrant, not just the consent of the parents, and the parents are barred from reentering this home. They`re staying with a relative a few miles away - Ryan.</s>SMITH: Jim, how long are they barred for? This is just for the search or are they being kept out until police do everything they need to do in the home?</s>SPELLMAN: We`re not certain how long they`ve been barred. I`m sure that there - it could be interventions their legal team could make against that. But, at this point, we know that, for the moment at least, they are barred and we expect a search here at any time.</s>SMITH: OK. So Jim, breaking news right here on DR. DREW, police doing another search. The family members, the father, the mother - Deborah, Jeremy - barred from the home while this search is conducted. Now, Mark Eiglarsh, let me bring you in on this. Tell me about this. Is this common when police are doing a search, keep them out? They can`t go in until police are finished doing whatever they`re doing?</s>EIGLARSH: Absolutely. It would shock me if somehow they allowed the family access to the home during a search. One hundred percent they keep them out. This is an enormous, significant development. They`re not going in there to see, well, maybe we can find something. They got a search warrant. That means a judge signed off on their right to search for specific items. They have something in mind, and hopefully this will lead to further this investigation.</s>SMITH: And, keep in mind, folks, you see it on the bottom, just like Mark talked about. They got a search warrant. But they can`t go in, they`re barred. And, Lisa, let`s get some perspective on this. So now that they`re doing the search warrant, the police are looking in deeper, the family hasn`t been cooperating a lot, at least police are saying that. Talk to me about their psychology through all of this, because essentially they know that they`re - they`re not suspects, at this point, but they know that they`re being looked at, that police are trying to pursue - and, by the way, police could be in that home just trying to look for clues.</s>BOESKY: Sure.</s>SMITH: So it might not be anything that leads necessarily to Deborah Bradley or - or Jeremy Irwin, but still.</s>BOESKY: But, well, think about it - most people, when their child goes missing, say come in. Come in. Overturn everything, look at everything.</s>SMITH: Yes.</s>BOESKY: I have nothing to hide. Come in. Turn my place upside down. Come in. They are actually taking it personally and getting defensive that people are looking at them so closely, which statistically we know that`s why people look so - the police look so closely, because oftentimes the family is involved. So I think it`s interesting. From a psychological point of view, it is two things. One, my name is Lisa. I`m very sensitive to the amount of times people say the name Lisa. I`m always turning around. Her name is Baby Lisa, but the parents, when you listen to them in an interview, often say she, her, she, her. It`s really interesting, if you listen to interviews, they don`t say Lisa very often.</s>SMITH: What does that mean to you? What does - what does it say?</s>BOESKY: That they`re distancing themselves from this baby. You feel so close to your baby, but I wonder if there`s some psychological distancing they`re doing by not saying her name.</s>SMITH: That`s incredible, when you think about that.</s>BOESKY: Second thing, psychologically, is more having to do with us as society and as a public and as parents. I think it`s easier for us as the public to think that there might be a messed up mom here or a messed up dad rather than accept the fact that maybe somebody came in and snatched this baby.</s>SMITH: OK.</s>BOESKY: That is a terrifying effect for the - for the - it`s a terrifying thought for the public to think.</s>SMITH: It`s a terrifying thought, indeed, to think that that could happen. Now, Jim, I want to go again back to what you did. You walked around that area, you got a feel for the backyard and surrounding crime scene. And this becomes very important. Let`s take a look at this.</s>SPELLMAN: This is the back of Baby Lisa`s house. It`s about 50 paces through this public access area, with this small screen right here. You can get to this from a side street without going by the front of anybody`s house, but you are clearly seen from all of the houses that surround it, if anybody were in the backyard or looking out at the backyard. In Baby Lisa`s house, you can see this large, garage-type structure; a swing set; this camper, this blue camper that`s here; and then the house with the deck off of it. So, if somebody were to try to get in this way, they would have some advantages of not being seen. There are no street lights that we can see back here, so it would look like it would be quite dark back here.</s>SMITH: Hey, Jim, one thing that stands out to me, I hear a dog barking in the background. You`re there in broad daylight. Wouldn`t that dog be barking or making some kind of commotion if someone came in and took Baby Lisa?</s>SPELLMAN: Absolutely, and it would, one, call attention to perhaps, you know, if there was somebody back there. And, also, if someone had Baby Lisa and she was asleep, that could possibly wake - wake her up as well. I think that dog back there would be the biggest obstacle to going into the backyard and back out again undetected.</s>SMITH: All right, Jim Spellman, thank you so much for that report. Mark Eiglarsh, Lisa Boesky, stay with us. We`re going to be talking to you about some other issues that we`re bringing up tonight. Now, we`re talking also about the Conrad Murray trial. Now, it may enter the defense phase when it picks up again tomorrow. See what his lawyers have planned at HLNtv.com/MichaelJackson. And, coming up next, a mother is found brutally murdered in her home, then her 11-year-old son goes missing. His body may have been found today.</s>CHIEF TOM MANGER, MONTGOMERY COUNTY, MARYLAND POLICE DEPARTMENT: We believe that William has been here at this location since October 1st. We have camera footage of Curtis Lopez, the suspect in this case, with William at a storage facility. The footage was from the morning of October 1st. The clothing on the body appears similar to what William was wearing on October 1st.