Will Sanders Supporters Vote for Clinton?
LEMON: Big wins in New York for Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton, changing the dynamics of both the Republican and the Democratic races. Back with me, Jamie Gangel. Jaime, you basically just co-hosting the show with me tonight.</s>GANGEL: I'm so happy to be with here.</s>LEMON: Bob Beckel is here, John Brabender and Matt Lewis. Bob has had a lot of time on and so as John as well. OK. So, listen, Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are one step closer to becoming the presidential nominees of their parties. But, what happens in November if this is a match up? Meghan McCain says, well, she thinks that Bernie supporters can actually throw their weight behind Trump instead of Clinton.</s>MEGHAN MCCAIN, FOX NEW CHANNEL HOST: Well, Bernie Sanders is the cult leader and he has bunch of cult followers and I saw people tweeting last night saying that they would vote for Trump over Clinton. Don't underestimate how ...</s>UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Not for Hillary, I think.</s>MCCAIN: I was going to say something inappropriate, but how angry Hillary -- Bernie Sanders supporters, the young millennials who have really bought into this, really bought into this cult, how angry they're going to be at her.</s>LEMON: OK, Mr. Beckel, let's assume for a moment that Trump wins the Republican nomination. You have said there is no way that Trump can win the general election. But, I mean, do you think Trump can get some of Bernie's supporters?</s>BECKEL: Well, if they're drunk enough. I mean, I was -- I don't -- listen, the chances of anybody who supports Bernie Sanders, whether black, women, Latinos, millennials, they're not going to do it. I mean, it's just -- it is so -- I mean, I don't know, you're a smart guy. You understand politics. Whoever gave you that lead out of the last break was crazy. I mean, tell the writers to get that off. I mean, you did -- I don't want to see you caught with that.</s>LEMON: I -- you're -- I wrote it myself, Bob.</s>BECKEL: ... go to the hospital before they gave their vote for Donald Trump.</s>LEMON: Well, I'm going to say that Jamie -- raise your hand. Jamie Gangel is going to, you know, and will defer. So, I mean, differs. She thinks that it's possible, at least hears that is possible.</s>BECKEL: I'm a big fan of Jamie Gangel, but I'm not going to give her the political analyst yet. And I think for her sake, she's a brilliant person, stay away from politics.</s>LEMON: Let her speak her own mind here. Let her have her say, go ahead, Jamie.</s>BECKEL: I was trying to give her an out, man.</s>GANGEL: Bob, I love you. We've known each other a long time. So this is just anecdotal.</s>LEMON: OK.</s>GANGEL: But I will tell you that in the last six months out on the campaign trail, talking to civilians, I cannot tell you the number of times when I would say to someone, "Who are you going to support?", they said, "Donald Trump". And then I would say, "Well, if it's not Donald Trump, who would you support?", because frankly, I was trying to figure out where in the Republican field they would go next. And inevitably the answer was, Bernie Sanders. I apologize, Bob. I apologize.</s>LEWIS: Listen, there is something to that, right? So they're both consummate outsiders. I mean, even they're both -- in the populous thing, they're both against, you know, adventurism. They're both against free trade. And they're both tapping into the working class white angst and frustration out there. And you can blame immigration as Trump does. You can blame globalization as Trump and Sanders does. Nobody blames automation, which actually is a big part of the story. But there is something out there. I don't know that they're going to actually end up showing. I think they're more likely they'll stay home.</s>LEMON: Right.</s>GANGEL: So that's it before I get really in trouble with my old friend Bob, that they'll hear. I will say, those are anecdotal stories and I truly believe that what's much more likely is that those folks will stay home. They won't vote for anyone.</s>LEMON: So, John, here's what I have to say. I would tell anecdotal stories about what people would say to me about Donald Trump, especially after interviewing him, looking over their shoulder and then saying, "You know, John -- I like that Trump guy", and it has, you know, transferred to them actually going out, people actually going out to vote for him. So my question, John, is, are Democrats underestimating how angry these young millennial voters are just as they underestimated Donald Trump's appeal?</s>BRABENDER: Yeah. And I did. And I think a lot of Republicans did. The truth of the matter is, where at least I've come to believe is that, Donald Trump is not about Donald Trump. It's about the people who are supporting Donald Trump and they're channeling through him. He's their megaphone, their lobbyist because they would never be able to afford a lobbyist. And they like the fact that he irritates people that are on this show, and that he irritates the establishment. And they just see that as he's authentic. And because of that, they are going to be there for him, come hell or high water, in November. And I disagree with Bob. I think that Hillary will lose from jail.</s>BECKEL: Listen, keep this number in mind, 62 percent negative, that's never happened. He couldn't win a rigged election in Cuba. I mean, it's just not going to happen.</s>LEMON: Well, these negatives are high as well.</s>BECKEL: Yes, they are, but they are movable. Trumps are not movable. I mean, you know, cracking a buildings. I mean, come on.</s>BRABENDER: Trump went through a lot more incoming than Hillary has come through so far. And I think that her unfavs (ph) are going to a lot higher, quite frankly.</s>LEMON: You mean, in this election?</s>BECKEL: She, for 25 years, she's been the incoming.</s>BRABENDER: Yeah. But not to what -- she complains about Bernie Sanders and, you know, it's like going to Tea Parties there, you know. Not the kind on our party, you know, where they wrap up each other. I mean, the truth of the matter is, Hillary's had a pretty easy ride. We haven't spent a lot of time about whether she is going to go to jail or not. And at some point a lot of this is going to be talk about that.</s>LEMON: So, Bob, listen, I know that if you can, you know, separate yourself from what you actually believe is going to happen and just become a political -- someone who has seen the process before. Let's just say that these voters, it does happen. How much will it hurt Hillary Clinton if these voters stay home?</s>BECKEL: Well, not much. I mean, a lot of these voters are not going to be really tough (ph) anyway. I mean, will it hurt her? Maybe in Michigan a little bit, maybe in Illinois a little bit. But, I just don't see the coalition of Trump voters who are going to go -- they'll stay home. They won't vote for Hillary Clinton, no question about that. But the idea that Trump voters would vote for Sanders, or Sanders vote for Trump. I mean, you know, you're talking about a Cold War here. I mean, would the Russians vote for the Americans? No. I mean, they got -- I'm not trying to -- I am being a political analyst and I'm telling you, this ain't going to happen.</s>LEMON: So, listen, Donald Trump though has already drawn a comparison between himself and Bernie Sanders. He says, "Bernie wins and wins and wins, and then the pundits say he can't win just like they do about him." So is he already trying to appeal to these voters take it away whoever you want to.</s>BECKEL: Yeah, I mean, why not? Why not?</s>LEMON: OK, Matt?</s>LEWIS: Listen, I don't think he's trying to appeal to the voters, but I think what he's trying to do is make this a bipartisan argument in a sense that it's not -- it's the American people feel like the game is rigged. And the American people feel like we're not winning. And that we're having these horrible trade deals, and that we're getting involved in. And that the elites are controlling things. And I think he's making that a bipartisan argument and there is, I mean, I think that resonates. That resonates.</s>LEMON: That was very similar in a weird way because Donald Trump speaks out against Wall Street. Bernie Sanders speaks out against Wall Street. I mean, you know, they separate from ...</s>LEWIS: Donald Trump could hit -- if Donald Trump runs against Hillary Clinton, he could hit Hillary from the left on a lot of things. And frankly, his arguments against Hillary would be very similar to Bernie's arguments against Hillary.</s>LEMON: Thank you, everyone. Bob, I got to go.</s>BECKEL: No, that's fine. That was fine. Just wait until the fall (ph). We've got plenty to think.</s>LEMON: All right. When we come right back, President Obama's chilly reception in Saudi Arabia, why he bill back by some 9/11 families is causing trouble with America's ally.