Japan: "We Will Never, Never Forgive" ISIS
IVAN CABRERA, AMS METEOROLOGIST: A good foot to 16 inches in some areas. But as we take you farther to the east by the time we get into Monday, there will be warm enough air, guys, where I think New York is going to mix and turn over to rain and freezing rain and that is a mess for the morning commute and Boston does get several more inches of accumulation and winter storm warnings posted there as well. I think New York will be OK. They have to be careful as you're traveling and probably not need the shovels there.</s>CHRISTI PAUL, CNN ANCHOR: Good to know.</s>VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: Enough for Boston. Enough for Boston.</s>CABRERA: Enough, but it's more.</s>BLACKWELL: Yes. All right. Thank you, Ivan.</s>PAUL: We have so much more starting. We are so glad you're starting your morning with us here at</s>NEW DAY. BLACKWELL: Next hour of your NEW DAY starts now.</s>PAUL: We will never forgive -- forget or forgive, rather. That is the message from Japan as the nation mourns the apparent beheading of a Japanese journalist. The question now is what will happen to the Jordanian fighter pilot also in ISIS hands.</s>BLACKWELL: It was almost three years ago that her mother was found dead in a hotel bathtub. Now, the daughter of Whitney Houston is found in similar conditions as the young woman now fights for her life this morning.</s>PAUL: Plus, just days after Mitt Romney bows out of the 2016 presidential race, a new front-runner could be emerging. Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker is finding himself in the top of a key battleground state. Your NEW DAY starts now. Always so grateful for your company. Good morning. I'm Christi Paul.</s>BLACKWELL: I'm Victor Blackwell. Good to be with you. The silent grieving protesters -- they are filling the streets in Japan.</s>PAUL: And world leaders in the U.S., France, Britain, they all say they will not let ISIS get away with its latest killing of an innocent hostage. ISIS latest victim, this man, Japanese freelance journalist Kenji Goto. A video released by ISIS appears to show his decapitated body. He is the second Japanese hostage killed by ISIS in just a week.</s>BLACKWELL: We're covering this from all angles. CNN's Will Ripley is in Tokyo.</s>PAUL: And CNN's Erin McPike is at the White House for us. But, Will, we do want to start with you. Talk about what's happening in Tokyo as to the reaction of this beheading.</s>WILL RIPLEY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: There was -- this was not surprising for people here in Japan who had feared that this was going to happen when the latest ISIS deadline passed and there was silence from that terror group as we have seen throughout this hostage crisis. Those periods of silence and, quite quickly, when ISIS posts another video and given that their last threat was that they were going to take the life of Kenji Goto and the Jordanian pilot as well Muath al- Kasasbeh, people here did fear the worse, but that did not mitigate the tremendous shock and grief at the brutality of this video, especially considering the fact that the journalist who was murdered, Kenji Goto, is somebody who people in Japan have really grown to know over the last week. Every major network here has shown his picture and told his story about the work that he did, his passion for going to some of the most dangerous places in the world and telling the stories of innocent people whose lives were in turmoil. And so, the outrage is shared by not only the people, but also Japan's Prime Minister Shinzo Abe as well.</s>SHINZO ABE, JAPANESE PRIME MINISTER (through translator): I feel the strongest anger against this atrocious despicable act. I will never forgive the terrorists. Japan will expand further humanitarian support which is food and medical support to the region.</s>RIPLEY: Japan, as you know, pledged $200 million to the coalition that fights ISIS. Some have said that his very public announcement of that may have put the two Japanese hostages Haruna Yukawa and Kenji Goto in danger. Both men are now gone. But the one thing that this video doesn't answer, the big question, what has happened to the Jordanian pilot? He is not mentioned in this ISIS video. So, of course, there is also concern and compassion here for the family of that man as well, al-Kasasbeh.</s>BLACKWELL: All right. Will, thank you. Let's go to Erin now. Erin, what's the response from the White House?</s>ERIN MCPIKE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Victor, we did get a statement from President Obama last night. I want to read part of that statement with you. He says, our thoughts are with Mr. Goto's family and loved ones. And we stand today in solidarity with Prime Minister Abe and the Japanese people in denouncing this barbaric act. We applaud Japan's steadfast commitment to advancing peace and prosperity in the Middle East and globally, including his generous assistance for innocent people affected by the conflict in the region." Now, I would also point out, Victor and Christi, that we heard this past week from the White House that they are reviewing their policies and protocol in dealing with U.S. hostages abroad because there have been increasing numbers of them. Of course, in this latest case, the Japanese have been involved in negotiations with ISIS and also the Jordanians in the last few weeks, Christi and Victor.</s>PAUL: So, Erin, when we hear, you know, the U.S. and Japan and Jordan and Britain all condemning this and vowing to fight, have you heard anything more from the White House regarding ground troops in this battle against ISIS?</s>MCPIKE: You know, Christi, White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest was asked this question on Thursday. And he reiterated at the time that President Obama does not think there need to be ground troops. I also was speaking with White House official just yesterday who said that White House policy has not changed on this. And this in light of Barbara Starr's interview with outgoing Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel this past week in which he said there may need to be some presence of ground troops overseas in Iraq and Syria, at least for the purpose of intelligence gathering. We also heard that last weekend from John McCain and Dianne Feinstein as well. But again, White House officials are saying no ground troops, that American troops will be in Iraq to train foreign fighters there to take the fight to ISIS and continue with air strikes, but no more ground troops or no ground troops at all rather, Christi and Victor.</s>PAUL: All righty. Will Ripley and Erin McPike, we appreciate it. Thank you.</s>BLACKWELL: All right. Let's bring in CNN law enforcement analyst Tom Fuentes and CNN military analyst, Lieutenant General Mark Hertling. And, General, I want to start with you and the discussion of the negotiations for this pilot. What kind of back channel discussions could the Jordanian government be involved with ISIS? Is there maybe liaison working here? Are they having direct talks? How does it work? LT. GEN. MARK HERTLING</s>CNN MILITARY ANALYST: There would certainly be interlocutors, Victor. I think they are continuing to attempt to discuss the things that Jordan is very interested in and that is primarily the safety of their pilot. They have to find that out. Again, it's dealing with an organization that you can't trust. So, there has to be some kind of commitment that the continuing negotiation will bring about some kind of change, Victor.</s>BLACKWELL: General, this new video of the beheading of Kenji Goto, the background different from the earlier ones. Earlier, there was this video that was indoors with Goto holding the photo of the other man who was beheaded. What can we learn from this latest video and does it mean anything to the negotiations with Jordan?</s>HERTLING: Well, in talking to several of my old friends in the intelligence communities, they think it means a lot, because it shows that ISIS is attempting to continue with the type of operations that they have continued -- that they have done in the past. But, in fact, they have been affected. So, they have to move the locations around, they have to change their production facility and all of those things in terms of even the quality of the video give indicators of the shape that ISIS is in.</s>BLACKWELL: Tom, I want to get your thoughts on a conversation we started with General Hertling just a few moments ago, that some people say that swapping prisoners for hostages is better than paying for the release, paying these ransoms. What do you think?</s>TOM FUENTES, CNN LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST: I think they are both difficult decisions. Paying the ransom, obviously, the money goes into being able to buy more weaponry and fund their operations and just lead to more attacks by them. So, I think that one we know is a very, very difficult choice for anybody to make. And a lot of European countries have been paying ransoms for the hostages that they have had. In terms of a prisoner swap, we have had prisoner swaps, you know, in the military for centuries, although normally those kind of prisoner swaps are done when the hostilities are over. I think the problem here is, when will they ever be over in the Middle East or with Islamic extremism? We don't know. So, does that mean we hold people forever, hold Gitmo open forever, have Jordan hold this person, you know, forever? That is where the difficulty comes in. You don't have a point to really say, OK, all of the hostilities are over, nobody is going to be a combatant any more in the future. Therefore, it's safe to exchange prisoners.</s>BLACKWELL: Tom, I wonder if any indicators pointing in one direct or another, whether ISIS ever really expected to pull off this exchange, or are they simply highlighting the story of a woman they believe to be a heroine here and this Jordanian pilot isn't even alive?</s>FUENTES: Well, I think many people have trouble figuring out what ISIS true objectives are. You know, my personal thought is that one of their objectives is to extend media coverage as far as they can possibly do it. They just dragged this out for several weeks with the two Japanese hostages. They get it to where all of Japan comes to respect and love Kenji Goto and know all about him and his family and his wife and children, and then they get maximum savagery out of that, maximum terror effect by then killing somebody that everybody has fallen in love with. And I think that here, this Jordanian officer, we have not seen this pilot since he has been captured and taken away somewhere. He's not been used in these most recent videos, especially the ones with the Japanese hostages. So, we really don't know and Jordan doesn't know how well he is, if he is well and alive. Haven't seen any proof of life but they just don't know. Now, it appears that ISIS will drag this out and extend this as long as it goes. We are trying to apply rational thought, well, they are going to get this and they will get money and get a prisoner. They want publicity first and foremost and we are giving it to them.</s>BLACKWELL: Yes, we are. Tom Fuentes, Lieutenant General Hertling, thank you so much.</s>FUENTES: Thank you.</s>HERTLING: Thanks.</s>PAUL: Another story that has really caught people off guard. A scene that is early similar to the death of Whitney Houston three years ago but this time it's her daughter. Bobbi Kristina Brown found face-first in her bathtub. We're going to tell you what we've learned about her condition. Also, New York City is the latest state on high alert because of the measles, after thousands of people could have been infected. We are talking to a public health expert about that. Stay close.