Trump Goes to Scotland to Open Golf Course; Trump Blasts Hillary Clinton.
LEMON: We do have some breaking news out of the U.K. where votes are being counted in a Brexit referendum on whether Britain will stay in the European Union. We're going to go live to London throughout the evening. We're going to continue to check on this. Correspondents and producers station throughout Britain to get you results on what's happening with the Brexit referendum. So, meanwhile, Donald Trump is flying to Scotland to visit his golf properties and despite the fact that he is a presumptive republican nominee. He is not planning to meet with any government officials. CNN's senior White House correspondent Jim Acosta has more now. Jim?</s>JIM ACOSTA, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Don, this will be no easy putt for Donald Trump. Trump will be here in Scotland for what is essentially a business trip. He will be doing a ribbon cutting on a newly refurbished golf course Trump owns here in Turnberry, Scotland. And I'm told most of Trump's family will be here for that event. But unlike past presidential candidates at this stage of a general election campaign, Trump is not slated to meet with any foreign leaders on this oversees visit. Not the British Prime Minister, not even top government officials here in Scotland. Trump, as you know, has clashed with British Prime Minister David Cameron, who slammed the presumptive GOP nominee's proposals to ban Muslims coming into the U.S., which is why Hillary Clinton released a web video mocking Trump's trip today. Here is what was in that video earlier today.</s>UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Like this later will discuss a petition signed by more than half a million people to ban Trump from entering Britain.</s>JACK DROMEY, BRITISH PARLIAMENT MEMBER: Donald Trumps is a fool. He is free to be a fool. He is not free to be a dangerous fool on our shores.</s>UNIDENTIFIED MALE: In that exclusive interview Mr. Trump told me should he become president he might not have a good relationship with David Cameron and he challenge London's first Muslim Mayor, Sadiq Khan, to an I.Q. test.</s>DONALD TRUMP, (R) U.S. PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Looks like we're not going to have a very good relationship.</s>JIM ACOSTA, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Over the weekend, Trump will head to a separate golf property in the town of Aberdeen, Scotland, where he has clashed with residents who are proposed to the project there. A few home owners in the area have even raised Mexican flags to protest Trump's immigration rhetoric. But a Trump source tells me this trip absolutely makes sense even during the campaign, noting this multi-million dollar project has his name on it. So, of course, he wants to make sure it's being managed to his standards. Don?</s>DON LEMON, CNN TONIGHT SHOW HOST: All right. Jim Acosta, thank you very much. I want to bring in now Andre Bauer, he is the former Lieutenant Governor of the South Carolina -- of South Carolina who supports Donald Trump. Van Jones is here, he is former official in the Obama administration, Maria Cardona with me tonight in New York, democratic strategist who supports Hillary Clinton and is a super delegate. And republican strategist Kevin Madden here as well. You're not a super delegate, Kevin madden?</s>KEVIN MADDEN, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: No, no. Just a regular delegate.</s>MARIA CARDONA, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: You bet.</s>LEMON: Just a delegate. Oh, well. One day. One day. So, welcome, Andre. I want to start with you. Trump -- Donald Trump going to Scotland to open a golf course. Is it a little off topic right now?</s>ANDRE BAUER, FORMER SOUTH CAROLINA LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR: Well, the first thing I would bring up is that normally in any election, after a hard-fought battle, most folks take a few days off. It's very common that you take a little time off, recharge your batteries. What makes Donald Trump tick is business. He's recharging his batteries by taking a trip, supporting his son and doing his does best and that's business.</s>LEMON: So, you're saying it's not off topic?</s>BAUER: I don't know that off topic. He's still in the full news cycle. You're talking about him every day and you're reinforcing to the American public that this guy is a business guy, and he's not a politician. Quite frankly, he probably didn't travel there like you and I do. He didn't have to go to TSA, and get a poor man's massage. He went over there in what quite frankly is a mobile office for him.</s>LEMON: Andre, Andre?</s>BAUER: Yes?</s>LEMON: I just needed you to answer my question. Do you think it is off topic?</s>BAUER: Sure, it's off topic. But he's not an on-topic candidate.</s>LEMON: OK. Thank you. All right. So, as we say in the polls, Hillary Clinton, we've been saying this, is eight points ahead of Donald Trump in Florida. They're tied in Ohio, virtual tie in Pennsylvania. So, do you think that, you know, his time would be better spent campaigning in battleground states?</s>BAUER: I don't think the average person right now is paying that much attention. We haven't even had the convention yet. Most folks are working. I mean, guys like us that pay attention to this, sure we're paying attention. But swing voters, most of them are working hard right now. And this is not what they're primarily concerned with. After the conventions, yes, they'll pay more attention to it. But I don't think it makes a big difference right now.</s>LEMON: OK. Do you think it makes a difference, Kevin Madden?</s>MADDEN: It does. Look, I mean, people are paying attention, this is a very important election. We are 120-plus days away before the election. And we're only, you know, maybe three weeks away from the conventions. People are paying attention. When you have an opportunity like this to drive a message about -- or by going overseas, Donald Trump is sending the wrong type of message. Where he could be sending a message about national security or showcasing his potential talents as a world leader or as a future commander-in-chief. Instead he's showing as -- he's hawking a golf course that he's building. I don't think that's really the message that is going to resonate with those swing voters that the lieutenant governor was talking about. They want some clarity on national security. They want some sense of stability on foreign policy. And, you know, standing on the 18th hole over at Trump Turnberry is not exactly going to do that.</s>LEMON: Do you think it's bad optics, Maria?</s>CARDONA: I absolutely think it's bad optics. Because first of all, it underscores everything that we have heard up until now in terms of Donald Trump's bad business practices. So, let's not -- let's not forget that we just came off of a whole slew of coverage of Trump University and how he defrauded thousands of people because they didn't get what they paid for. And then now we're talking about his golf resort in Scotland, which apparently is losing millions of dollars and in the process of putting together this project, he essentially made everybody mad. He rolled everybody over there, using the equivalent of imminent domain, kicking people off of their property. There is going to be tons of people protesting because they really don't like him. They talked about -- he talked about how he reported in Scotland apparently how he lost a lot of money. And then over here in the financial disclosure forms he reported that he made a lot of money. So, which is it? This gives democrats and Hillary Clinton a huge opportunity to talk about what a fraud he is when it comes to business.</s>LEMON: Van Jones, the candidates do take trips across the pond to bolster their foreign policy credentials. That's not new. Barack Obama, when he was a candidate, President Obama he was a candidate in 2008 did it, Mitt Romney in 2012. So, how is this different?</s>VAN JONES, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Well, that's what's so remarkable. He is actually going to Europe at a major, major moment in history. Is the European Union essentially going to break up because Britain leaves? This is a huge moment. He could go there, he could talk to people, he could make the case for them to stay, to go. He's not talking to one leader. Not one elected official. Not a dog catcher. Nobody! He's just going to show off his new golf course thing. And it's almost like he's profiteering off of his candidacy. Listen.</s>LEMON: But what about to Andre's point where he says everybody needs a break? You know, everybody needs a vacation.</s>JONES: Sure.</s>LEMON: Seriously.</s>JONES: Well, listen. Most people when they take a vacation, they take a vacation. This is not a vacation. This is a business kind of junket in the middle of the presidency. There is this danger of him just seeming unseemly, when it comes to the business that he's running while he's running for president. Don't forget. He was charging his own campaign money from his hotels and everything else. Almost making money off his own campaign. I just...</s>LEMON: He did explain that today.</s>JONES: What?</s>LEMON: He did explain that and said why give other, you know, hotel or venue the money when he can give his own? And, you know, some people understand that. But, listen, to Van's point, Andre, and to the point I was trying to make earlier, is it off topic? Especially I asked because when nearly 7 in 10 voters think that GOP presumptive nominee should, you know, stop down from the -- step down, excuse me, from the Trump organization while he is in politics right now. So, what do you say to those voters?</s>BAUER: I tend to agree that he should. But from my understanding, this was kind of a big deal for his son. He has taken a day or two off to go over there and support his son. And, you know, he is an unorthodox candidate again. But it reinforces the guy first and foremost he is a business guy. And again, it's never been unusual for candidates to take a few days off, usually a week off after a hard- fought primary.</s>LEMON: OK. Also, Van, I need to tell you that today he said in a statement he said he would no longer make his campaign repay $50 million loan. Again, we'll continue to talk about that. Stay with me, everyone. When we come right back, we're going to continue to talk about this conversation and also we're going to take you to the U.K. to figure out what's going on with their Brexit referendum vote. Don't go anywhere.