Dutch Radicalization Hotline for Parents Fearing Child Will Join ISIS
BALDWIN: As we're learning about more and more young Muslims leaving the west to train with extremists in places like Yemen, a unique solution has now been developed in the Netherlands. It's called the Dutch radicalization hotline. Hotline, yes. This is a phone number mothers and fathers can call if they fear their son or daughter is falling under the influence of radical Islam and considering fleeing home to the Middle East. Nadette De Visser wrote about his in "the Daily Beast. " Nadette joins me from Amsterdam. And Nadette, I mean, it's a fascinating read, this notion of actually setting up a hotline. How exactly does this work?</s>NADETTE DE VISSER, CONTRIBUTOR, THE DAILY BEAST: Well, it's very interesting initiative. It started from the community, the Moroccan community in the Netherlands itself. And it is basically a phone line that people can call into, and they will find different volunteers who are all based in different cities around Netherlands. And people can call in if they have any kind of questions about the process their kids are going through really.</s>BALDWIN: Forgive me. You quote, just in part of your piece, I know one of the managers of the hotline told I this, quote, "a young father called me because his young son vanished a few days ago. He said I don't care if you have him arrest. He'd rather have his child in jail than in the hands of ISIS. Are there more young Muslims, you know, in the Netherlands leaving to join what they call jihad from, you know, the Netherlands or even like Belgium? And what kinds of communities are they really coming from?</s>DE VISSER: Yes, it's a quite substantial problem, actually, if you look at the figures. It's relatively alarming in the sense that the Netherlands and Belgium are two relatively small countries with a community that is less than 1.5 million Muslims. And the figure of people actually traveling to Syria and Iraq is estimated about 400 to 500 young people, conservative figures which is a lot if you compare it to France, which is a much bigger country with a community of Muslims of around seven million, which has only about 700 to 800 people actually having left.</s>BALDWIN: But then, Nadette, of those numbers, you also write specifically about the attraction and we have done an entire segment on this of about young women who are lured by the self-proclaimed Islamic state. Why is that?</s>DE VISSER: Yes. Well, I talked to two representatives from the radicalization hotline, and what they described to me is lately there have been more women traveling towards Syria and Iraq to join jihadist groups. What I was -- the profile of these young women is basically that if you are consider the fact that they are coming from relatively conservative backgrounds where they are expected to be harmonizing and obedient, they -- that's what their family expects of them. But the moment they go into Dutch society, they have a completely different things are expected from them, like they should be emancipating or they should be standing up for their rights. And this is sort of a conficteous (ph) expectation. So -- and if you then look at what the propaganda of, for instance the ISIS, sort of sends out through different social media channels is that if they joined jihadist pool, they can be this independent, strong woman who can actually take up arms against infidels. And on the hard --</s>BALDWIN: Hard to imagine that. It is hard to imagine that sort of allure and the trap really. Nadette De Visser with "the Daily Beast," thank you so much on this hotline that's now been set up for parents. Thank you. Next, trial of the century. Twenty years later, hear what one key player O.J. Simpson's house guest Kato Kaelin anyone? What is he doing now? That's coming up.