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PAUL: Forty five minutes past the hour right now. Charlottesville is marking one year since that deadly unite the right rally and the governor in the city has declared a state of emergency. The same group that organized the rally last year, holding another one in Washington now tomorrow. Last year's rally called to protest the removal of a confederate statue ended with one woman, Heather Heyer. I spoke to Heather's mother Susan Bro, and here's what he had to say about hate groups.</s>SUSAN BRO, MOTHER OF HEATHER HEYER: White privileges are very real thing, it's not mandatory that you think a certain way just because you live a certain way. You have the ability to still think for yourself. I often say don't drink the Kool-Aid, be aware of the fact that you don't have to believe the way you were brought up to believe.</s>PAUL: Thank me. Former skinhead and founder of Harmony through Hockey with us now. Though some American history expert, was inspired by his life. Frank, it's good to see you again. I know we talked to you last year as well. I saw you kind of shaking your head or nodding your head when you listened to what Susan had to say. What struck you there?</s>FRANK MEEINK, FORMER SUPREMACIST SKINHEAD: You know, it's the old bait and switch, actually, it could do for people to become white supremacist, there's an issue. And when I would go -- when I was trying to recruit people, I would go and I pull the greatest bait and switch ever pulled in mankind. I will tell a guy who says I need to be proud of my heritage, and I'll go to them and say, boy, you want to be proud of your heritage because if you say you're proud to be white in America, you're a racist is what I would say to this guy. And I would say, you want to be proud of your heritage, come join my group. And the guy would come join my group, we never once talked about our heritage. What we always talked about, everyone else's heritage. What are they doing? Look at their live, they're not living up to our standards -- like we didn't talk about our own heritage because you only talk about Aretha Erickson so much. So we just would have these conversations that would be getting more hateful and geared towards violence. I mean, that's what hate groups are formed, they're formed out of men with fear --</s>PAUL: Right,</s>OK -- MEEINK: Men and fear --</s>PAUL: And so that's what I wanted to ask you about. Let's listen together here to Sarah Sidner, she spoke to a neo-Nazi -- Sarah is one of our reporters, spoke to a neo-Nazi who said he's fighting a culture war. Let's listen together to this exchange.</s>UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The rural America spoke up when they elected Trump. Rural America. We're staring down the barrel of a gun here and wait, America, there's still 193 million white Americans, yes, the vast majority of them are in their 60s and 70s, will be in the ground in the next 20, 30 years. And therefore, we have a possibility of becoming a minority in our own country. A possibility --</s>SARAH SIDNER, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: It sounds to me --</s>UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Of becoming a minority in our own country --</s>SIDNER: Like you're afraid of being me and being me is --</s>UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is my country.</s>SIDNER: Is right, this is also my country.</s>UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You guys didn't win the culture war.</s>PAUL: OK, I saw your reaction watching that as well. Fear, I know we talked about it last time. It is -- it is the underlying theme of everything that is white supremacy, you say.</s>MEEINK: Yes, I mean, guys who wake up and their whole thought -- I would wake up in the morning and say, why did they have BET? And I would think about that all day and it would drive me and it would -- as a 16, 17-year-old boy, I would, you know, think why don't we have white entertainment television? Again, I don't have the facts enough to say, no, you can see almost all television, white entertainment television, but I would seriously be -- I seriously would wake up and that would be my driving force in the morning. Is that they're getting something over me and I wasn't born with a silver spoon. You know, but when I go for a job application, I can hide that I came from the hood. People that are minorities can't hide that. And that's why they have affirmative action and groups and things now that are in place to help because, you know, I can't hide that, I grew up poor.</s>PAUL: Virginia's Governor Ralph Northam said this yesterday. He said "those torches carried by white supremacists in Charlottesville a year ago shone a light on an ugly truth, but they also really wakened our commitment to fight back against the ugliness of racism and bigotry. Hatred has no home in this commonwealth." Since we talked last, last year, Frank, have you -- do you feel like you've seen any change?</s>MEEINK: Not much. And I wish I'm one of the people I'd like to see the glass half full, but I mean, you have a president who goes to Twitter battles like he's a rapper, and you know, he constantly going after people. He even is full of fear. Again, when these hate groups started forming, it wasn't when Trump got in, it was when Obama got in. These groups got really big, but he lowered them back to sleep because he didn't really do any of the stuff they said he was going to do. He didn't come for the guns, he didn't come for all those stuff. When Trump announced his candidacy, he said the words that almost every racist in America says, and that is we make exceptions. Oh, I hate all black people except for John, John is cool because I work with John. If you remember his speech was they're all, you know, drug addicts -- drug, you know, drug dealers and rapists, gang members, all this stuff. And at the end, he goes -- and I assume some are good people. He related to so many of those home racist people who were like I hate --</s>PAUL: Well --</s>MEEINK: Them all except for one.</s>PAUL: Yes, he was talking about immigrants at that point when he was saying that, but --</s>MEEINK: He was talking about human beings is what everybody was talking about --</s>PAUL: We know that he was talking about human beings, yes, but that was the group that he was speaking to, but you're right. I'm wondering, we know David Kessler, we know David Duke is going to be at this rally tomorrow. As a former skinhead, if you could be in front of them, is there anything you would want to say to them? Anything that you believe --</s>MEEINK: Not good --</s>PAUL: Could sway any of these people to think differently?</s>MEEINK: Well, first, we have to reintroduce empathy into -- people that are full of fear and hate, they've lost empathy, they've lost humanity for the world because they got acceptance to be part of this group that tells them they shouldn't have humanity and acceptance for other people. But what I would say to them is, look, I figured out the solution and the solution is life is just about the moment I have with people. It could be from my cashier at a store to -- you have moments in life, and am I the guy who always brings anger and you know, hatred towards every conversation I'm in. Or am I the guy who can bring peace and resolution to something by not degrading other human beings or believing them as idiotic belief in the world is that I'm better than you because of the color of my skin. I mean, let's go over to -- what a lazy group. All -- any supremacist group goes by the color of their skin, what a lazy -- you didn't achieve anything, you were just born that way. You didn't go out and get a certain degree to become part of this group, you are just born that way, it's very lazy.</s>PAUL: Well, Frank Meeink, we appreciate your insight and talking to you one year later just about --</s>MEEINK: Right, thank you --</s>PAUL: Where we're going and hopefully maybe what we can do to make things better. I thank you so much, Frank --</s>MEEINK: Thank you --</s>PAUL: And by the way, we're going to have more of my interview with Heather Heyer's mother, Susan Bro in the next hour as well, she had a lot to say.</s>BLACKWELL: All right, President Trump has not said anything on Twitter yet or anything anywhere about these pending protests that are coming to the nation's capital by these white supremacists. But he has talked about the NFL players protesting during the national anthem. Andy Scholes is here with more, Andy?</s>ANDY SCHOLES, CNN SPORTS REPORTER: Yes, Victor, the president says the players should find another way to protest. And coming up, we'll hear from some of those players explain why they won't do that.