: Girlfriend Shot Lawyer Boyfriend
DR. DREW PINSKY, HLN HOST: Tonight, police say a naked Twister sex party with teenagers was hosted by a former Mormon Sunday schoolteacher who happened to party with them. Now she has lost custody of her five children and is facing charges. Plus, the dementia sex case takes a new turn. Will a husband be sent to prison for having had sex with his own wife? Let`s get started with the most tweeted story of the night, promising young attorney shot dead by his on again-off again girlfriend. Her attorney says this 911 call proves it was self-defense. They both reach for the gun. Take a listen.</s>UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thank you for calling 911.</s>UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Ma`am, I killed my boyfriend in self-defense.</s>UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What did you kill him with?</s>UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A gun, a loaded gun in the house.</s>UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Have you been injured?</s>UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I`m not injured, ma`am. I was thrown into the side of the couch.</s>UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Where are you?</s>UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I`m standing about ten feet away from his dead body.</s>UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Are you sure that he`s dead?</s>UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He`s dead, ma`am. He`s completely dead. Ma`am, his body was twitching and I knew he was going to die anyway and he was making funny noises so I shot him a couple more to kill him because I knew he would have been.</s>UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I`m sorry, you said you shot him a couple more times after that?</s>UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.</s>UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How many times did you shoot him total?</s>UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don`t know.</s>UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So you shot him instead of calling 911?</s>UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What?</s>PINSKY: Joining us, Sam shocker, Poptrigger@hulu.com, Danine Mannette, criminal investigator, author of "Ultimate betrayal" and Anahita Sedaghattar, defense attorney, legal counsel to the Cochrane firm. Shayna Huber killed Ryan Postin with six bullets, two shots to the head, two shots to the chest, one arm, one in the back. Danine, this is one of the craziest stories I`ve ever seen. Strangely, this one bothers me more at the outset than Jodi did.</s>DANINE MANNETTE, CRIMINAL INVESTIGATOR: It`s so interesting that she is really trying to put this self defence thing out there. I mean that is such a joke to me. When you have a self-defense argument or a stance, you have to use reasonable force with what was presented towards you. Like if someone spits on you, you can`t like stab them or if someone throws a book at you, you can`t cut them up with an axe. So if this guy really did push her and then she gets up and fires six shots at him, two in the head --</s>PINSKY: Wait, Anahita, you`re actually shaking your head at what Danine --</s>UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What?</s>PINSKY: Are you saying that if somebody spits in your direction, you can go ahead and chop their head off?</s>ANAHITA SEDAGHATTAR, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: That`s not what I`m saying, but I`m taking issue, Dr. Drew, with the fact there are all these comparisons between this case and the Jodi arias case. This isn`t Jodi Arias part two. In fact, I think there are so many differences between the two cases. First and foremost this girl called 911 shortly after the killing and confessed.</s>PINSKY: Confessed or tried to build her case. She called her mother first.</s>SEDAGHATTAR: Look at some of the other evidence. She didn`t try to clean up the crime scene. She didn`t try to get rid of the gun. And her story, Dr. Drew, has been consistent from day one. Unlike Jodi who I think her story changed three, four, five times. First it was ninjas, then it was some armed masked men. I mean I think a lot of these factors actually work in her favor. This is not going to be Jodi Arias part two.</s>PINSKY: Sam?</s>SAM SCHACHER, HOST "POP TRIGGER": Yes, because probably she learned a thing or two from watching the Jodi Arias trial.</s>PINSKY: Right.</s>SCHACHER: You don`t wait 10 to 15 minutes to call 911. You don`t call your mom first. Not only that the evidence on that crime scene in the living room does not corroborate with the story that she told the 911 operator. The police chief testified. He said it didn`t look like that there was any signs of her being slammed into the couch. She didn`t have any injuries. The living room looked like it was in place. I don`t buy her story at all.</s>PINSKY: And the victim`s neighbors testified they heard all six gunshots and, "something hit the knorr. It sounded like somebody`s body." Shayna, whom you`re seeing there, talked about the neighbors in her police interrogation. Take a listen.</s>SHAYNA HUBERS: I`m scared because I know what happened.</s>UNIDENTIFED MALE: Right.</s>HUBERS: I have no witnesses. The back door was open. I don`t know what the neighbors heard. They saw him throw me. They`re going to say yes, I saw him throw her on the ground.</s>PINSKY: So, Anahita, she`s convinced the neighbors are going to come to her defense and corroborate her point of view. But apparently, on the stand, they did not. They heard crying but never saw any fighting.</s>SEDAGHATTAR: Dr. Drew, how many times have I come on up show and said that you should not speak to the police without an attorney unless you have an attorney present especially when you are being accused of murder?</s>PINSKY: Is she not a nightmare case?</s>SEDAGHATTAR: It`s a nightmare case and those words are going to be used against her. But I don`t think that police interrogation tape is damning. I`m sorry I think it can help her.</s>PINSKY: Well, her attorney argues that the witness testimony does back the self defense claim. Listen.</s>DAVID MEJIA, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: They heard two shots and then four shots in rapid succession, bang-bang, and then four more in rapid succession. They would have you believe that she shot from across the room in cold blood and came around and shot him as he lay on the floor.</s>PINSKY: Yes, but we heard her say on the tape, Danine, that she shot him and then shot him four more times because he was twitching.</s>MANNETTE: That is the problem that I have with this case. It`s like, OK, when you use self-defense, you use that to neutralize the threat. So those two first two shots neutralize the threat. OK. I`ll give her those, perhaps. But then she became Dr. Kevorkian. I mean, at what point does your self defense argument turn into an ability to execute euthanasia on somebody? That`s the problem.</s>PINSKY: Right. Wouldn`t -- Danine, back me up --</s>MANNETTE: Those four shots are the problem.</s>PINSKY: Danine, would the average person, if they`re in -- let`s say they do something in self-defense even if they have sort of some awareness they`re doing it, they shoot and then go, "oh, my god, what have I done?" They run around and call 911 and do what they could to clean it up.</s>MANNETTE: She finishes him off.</s>PINSKY: Anahita, what do you mean it`s not true? I can`t imagine finishing somebody off.</s>SEDAGHATTAR: Dr. Drew, you should know, there is no one way that somebody react in a traumatic situation. How can you say this is what an innocent person would do? You can`t.</s>PINSKY: No, I`m not saying innocent. I`m saying it`s bizarre that she would insist on finishing him off. I`ve never heard of such a thing.</s>SEDAGHATTAR: No, that`s not true.</s>PINSKY: What?</s>SEDAGHATTAR: It happens frequently in battered women cases. I`m not saying she`s a battered woman. If she is, if the evidence showed that she was an abused woman, I can tell you they stab, stab, stab, they shoot, shoot, shoot until the threat it abated in their mind.</s>PINSKY: Anahita, you`re just scaring the heck out of me. But I tell you what, I`m going to torture you some more with more of her interrogation tape. Take a look at this.</s>SEDAGHATTAR: Let`s do it.</s>HUBERS: He was dying. I shot him once and didn`t shoot again for a while, but I was watching him die. It was painful to watch him die a, and to know that I had done that. But I just walked around the table and shot him where I knew he would die immediately and fast.</s>PINSKY: All right, counselor, let me talk about --</s>UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Wow.</s>PINSKY: Let me talk about this woman`s personality functioning and her thinking. So she -- she realizes she did this, so it`s painful to her to see him in that misery so she needs to put herself out of that pain by stopping him from twitching anymore. This is a really sick person. I`m sorry. If this is what happened, allegedly, allegedly, allegedly, but if this is the way she thinks, this is a really severe borderline personality where everything is out there but it`s all her.</s>SEDAGHATTAR: That helps the defense, doesn`t it, Dr. Drew? If you were the expert witness.</s>PINSKY: Yes, if you want to make some sort of mental health claim in this, OK.</s>SEDAGHATTAR: I mean, you just said it. She seems borderline. If anything that`s a mitigating factor --</s>PINSKY: All right. It`s a mitigating factor but it`s not an explanation. She should have gotten help for her borderline disorder. The</s>YASMIN VASSOUGHIAN, HLN HOST: I`m Yasmin Vassoughian with "The Daily Share" at this house. At the top of your Google searches today, the gyro copter that landed on the west lawn of the U.S. Capitol Building. 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