Is Giuliani In or Out?.
HENDERSON: President Trump is going out of his way to show he still supports his personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani. This comes after the rest of two of Giuliani's associates were allegedly funneling foreign money into U.S. elections and a "New York Times" report that Giuliani himself is under criminal investigation for whether he broke foreign lobbying laws by pushing for the ouster of the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine. Saturday the President had lunch with Giuliani at his golf club in Virginia. Later he offered glowing praise during a phone call to Jeanine Pirro on Fox News.</s>HENDERSON: Giuliani, sure certainly pleased with that account of who he is from the President.</s>HENDERSON: Rachael, how much trouble do we think Giuliani might be in legally? There was talk for instance that the folks on the Senate side wanted -- Lindsey Graham him to come before Congress. What do we think he's thinking now in terms of how much trouble he's in?</s>BADE: Well, yet to be determined how serious and how deep this legal trouble is for him. I mean keep in mind even though the President called in to defend him last night, he did the same thing with his former attorney, Michael Cohen, who obviously is now in prison and will be there for the next three years because he was part of the scheme to pay off women who are alleging affairs in 2016. Trump sort of kept him in. Until he was too, sort of and poisonous. And then he pushed them aside. So we'll just have to see how he handles Giuliani. No in fact, Republicans are still looking to Giuliani to potentially come into the senate to sort of paint this picture of the Biden scandal and what he was doing in Ukraine and why he thought it was legitimate and ok. But obviously with his two associates being arrested for funneling money into a U.S. election, foreign money, this is like a Jinga (ph) set (ph) right now. I mean you pull one block and these two people who put him in touch with the Ukraine prosecutors are now arrested. And so it really undercuts their whole argument -- this whole scheme, this whole sort of conspiracy.</s>HENDERSON: And Giuliani in "New York Times", here is what he had to say. "Mr. Giuliani said that federal prosecutors had no grounds to charge him with foreign lobbying disclosure violations, because he said he was acting on behalf of Mr. Trump, not the Ukrainian prosecutor, when he collected the information on Miss Yovanovitch, and the others related to the American government and the news media. Josh, do you want to jump in?</s>DAWSEY: So many people in the White House have very significant issues with Rudy Giuliani and wish that he was not the President's lawyer, do not think he's helping the President on TV. But the President continues to see him as a valuable and credible defender. He's gone out and said, you know, no collusion, no obstruction for many months. His prosecutor</s>HENDERSON: And the bad headlines, there's a political article about this, Rudy Giuliani needs to stop talking, I think he's massively hurting the President. His TV appearances are so confusing, contradictory. He's creating an impression of internal chaos. One former senior administration official described it this way when asked what Trump's strategy against impeachment should be, hopefully Rudy will be on the space shuttle.</s>PACE: To Josh's point -- I mean there are people in the West Wing right now who think that so much of what is happening right now is because of Rudy Giuliani. He has been running around in Ukraine, having meetings, he's been talking about it publicly with reporters, on television. But the key to this is he, it appears, was doing this --</s>HENDERSON: At the President's request.</s>PACE: If not in coordination with the President's full knowledge. It's not as though this was happening and suddenly one day Trump woke up and said, Rudy, what are you up to? He was well aware of what was going on.</s>HENDERSON: They're directing people to try to focus their anger on Giuliani, but really the President is tied up in the middle of this.</s>HENDERSON: Yes. We'll see where this goes. Next week is going to bring a lot more information. > Next up, our reporters share from their notebooks next including whether the President's last-minute campaign trip to Louisiana paid off for Republicans.