Last Photos of Robyn Gardner
MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It was on this very spot, August 2nd, that Gary Giordano, who is the American that`s now in custody, said that he and Robyn Gardner were snorkeling late in the afternoon. And then at one point they became separated. He came ashore and she apparently did not.</s>MICHAEL LOPEZ, GARY GIORDANO`S ATTORNEY: They know each other for a couple of years already. And as friends, they met each other, I think, on a dating site.</s>SAVIDGE: Authorities here are going through a number of things. First of all, the couple`s rental car to see if there`s any forensic evidence there to be gleaned and they`re also going through a number of SmartPhones, maybe a laptop computer as well.</s>UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Apparently this guy would go online, get to know women in their late 40s, who are in good shape, attractive women. After he would meet them online, they would meet in person a couple of times, go back to his house and have consensual sex. But what they didn`t know is what that woman was just talking about, they were being videotaped and audio taped having sex.</s>RICHARD FORESTER, BOYFRIEND OF ROBYN GARDNER: I just don`t think that she was snorkeling. I feel in my heart that something happened at this person`s hand.</s>CARLOS DIAZ, HLN GUEST HOST: Tonight, new evidence that could suggest the prime suspect in the Robyn Gardner disappearance wanted her dead. Now Aruban officials say that they can now confirm that not only did Gary Giordano take out a $1.5 million travel insurance policy on Gardner, but he is the beneficiary. And take a look at this: new photos that show Robyn Gardner and Gary Giordano only two hours before she vanished. These photos were taken by a restaurant worker as the couple left the Rum Reef Bar and Grill where patrons have said Robyn was acting woozy. Gardner disappeared three weeks ago after flying to Aruba with Giordano. He says Robyn vanished while they were snorkeling but no one really knows for sure if they ever even entered the water. Now Aruban officials are confirming that Giordano is indeed the beneficiary on Gardner`s huge $1.5 million travel insurance policy. Aruba`s solicitor general spoke to NBC`s "Today" show.</s>SOLICITOR GENERAL: We are now in a position to say that indeed the insurance was for $1.5 million which is quite a large amount so it is still one topic we will be pursuing further in the investigation.</s>DIAZ: But here`s the thing, you can`t make yourself -- you cannot make yourself the beneficiary under these circumstances. They`re not married, they`re not related. So either Giordano broke the law or Robyn Gardner agreed to make him the beneficiary which to me would be pretty odd. So is this the motive Aruban authorities have been looking for. Straight out to Robyn Gardner`s boyfriend, Richard Forester; and Richard, once again, thanks man for coming on. I can`t imagine what you`re going through right now. And I applaud your gumption for coming on.</s>FORESTER: Thank you. .</s>DIAZ: What is your reaction to these brand-new photos that you see of Robyn basically hours before she disappeared?</s>FORESTER: Well, I mean, you know, it`s hard. It`s hard. I love to see pictures of her, but not under these circumstances. You know, I think it just -- all it does is just really give us a time frame more than anything of what could have happened, you know? I mean I think those were taken a little bit after 4:00 p.m. in the afternoon and she was reported missing close to 6:30. So that gives us a little bit of a window there. But that`s all I can really say about that because I mean that`s what they are.</s>DIAZ: When you first saw them, what was the feeling in your stomach and your heart? What was your feeling?</s>FORESTER: Well, I mean, look, I said this before, I miss her, I love her. Am I angry that she was there with him? Yes. Do I ask myself why? What was she thinking? Of course. But I can`t get myself consumed in that. I have to -- you know, my mission is to find Robyn. And to see what can we do? What can the Aruban authorities do that they aren`t already doing? What I`d look to see is I would like to see dogs, I`d like to see canines, you know, looking for her. How I feel about seeing those pictures, maybe they`ll help. I don`t know.</s>DIAZ: And the reason they released them is because they want to -- you know, because if people saw her, what she`s wearing, maybe that could help bring up some clues. Let`s take a close -- go ahead.</s>FORESTER: 100 percent. And I`ve been quoted, but it`s a dress that she loved to wear. I`ve seen her wear it a lot. So I mean, yes, that pulls at my heart strings, absolutely.</s>DIAZ: Let`s take a closer look at these new photos taken at the restaurant on Baby Beach only two hours before Robyn Gardner vanished. We were thinking, how odd that someone would take these photos from the back. Well, the restaurant worker wanted to photograph Robyn`s tattoos. Aruban authorities released the photos because they`re hoping somebody might recognize the dress Robyn was wearing. Coming to profiler Pat Brown, what do you think when you look at these photos?</s>PAT BROWN, PROFILER: You know, I don`t put that much into photos because they`re only a moment in time. She could have been upset the minute before they took the photo and somebody says smile, then say goodbye and she said, "Hi, bye," and so all of a sudden she looks happy. These things really mean little except for as was pointed out the time frame, what she was wearing, who she was with, when it happened and where she was going. And this was the last time she was seen. So I do believe that regardless of what anybody says, what condition she was in. I mean you`re in Aruba for Christ`s sake. A lot of people drink liquor for breakfast. I mean it`s just people -- they`re having a good time. And if they`re depressed they`re having a bad time, a sobering (ph) thing.</s>DIAZ: They`re having a problem here.</s>BROWN: Yes. So, she -- whatever condition she was in when she got in the vehicle doesn`t matter because what I believe happened is Giordano was at that point frustrated with her for one reason or the other. Either she wouldn`t go -- she wouldn`t go in the water so he couldn`t commit his little insurance --</s>FORESTER: I can`t hear the program.</s>DIAZ: Ok. We`re having some audio programs right now with one of our other guests. I want to move on real quick and say that Gary Giordano claims Robyn Gardner was drunk on vodka and groggy from sleeping pills while they were snorkeling. Check out what Giordano`s attorney said.</s>LOPEZ: Probably the sea got -- he couldn`t stand anymore and he signed to let`s go back and when he reached shore, she was nowhere to be seen.</s>DIAZ: I realize as Pat pointed out, that these photos are still images, but nothing strikes me as strange. I mean she`s standing up, she`s getting upright. She`s got a long dress on, high heeled sandals. No one is helping her or supporting her. In fact Gary Giordano was walking in front of her. Richard -- I want to bring Richard in on this one, if you can still hear us. Richard, are you still here?</s>FORESTER: I can`t hear anything except for something else.</s>DIAZ: Ok. Let`s bring Richard down. Let`s spot him down and I`ll bring Jayne Weintraub in. Jayne, what do you think when you see these pictures.</s>JAYNE WEINTRAUB, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, it looks like she`s, you know, happily keeping up with him and they`re going somewhere. You can`t read anything into it, I agree with Pat completely. But, you know, these suspicions and coming up now with a motive for the life insurance policy, I mean usually when you have a motive it comes after you have a crime. And then there`s a reason for the crime. You can`t put the motive first and say ok, now we have a reason why he would want to get rid of her or kill. But we don`t have a murder. We don`t have a homicide. We don`t have a body and we don`t have eyewitnesses and we have no idea what happened except what Giordano said and there`s nothing to contradict it. The man is being held in custody based on a suspicion of what`s going on here but there`s no evidence of anything.</s>BROWN: Yes, there is evidence. Giordano said Robyn is dead. He said that too. He said he went snorkeling with her, she didn`t come back with him so clearly then she`s never been seen. He`s saying she`s dead and she was dead when she was with me. Now, I don`t believe the last scenario. I believe the last scenario was they left the restaurant together. And as far as motive goes, I agree. That can be very confusing, even in his own mind he can be confused. He might have thought, she ticks me off, I can make some money from her if I drown her. Or if she ticks me off and doesn`t give me what I want sexually, I might be mad at her. So at this point, he just might be frustrated with her and doesn`t get what she wants. She won`t swim. She won`t give him the sex he wants. He gets pissed off. He does something to her up there in the isolated areas.</s>WEINTRAUB: Pat, that`s a story. But there`s nothing --</s>BROWN: That`s a story.</s>WEINTRAUB: -- there`s nothing to back that up.</s>BROWN: Giordano says she`s dead.</s>DIAZ: But Jayne, you don`t see the fact that a $1.5 million insurance policy that he took out on her and he`s the beneficiary of, you don`t see that as being odd at all?</s>WEINTRAUB: Odd, absolutely? Suspicious, absolutely. Does that make a murder case and is that a lock tied? No, absolutely not.</s>BROWN: Not yet.</s>WEINTRAUB: That`s not a reason to indict somebody for murder because --</s>BROWN: Not yet.</s>WEINTRAUB: You know, she could have taken that out. She could have done that because she mad at her boyfriend, Richard. She left Richard. She went on this date that she had known this guy for a couple of years, met him on</s>DIAZ: All right. I mean -- we have Richard with us right now. Richard, what do you say to what Jayne is saying?</s>FORESTER: You know, things with Robyn and I, we have a relationship like most people. You have your ups and your downs. She lived with me most of the time. We spent most of our time together. We worked about quarter of a mile from each other. We went to work together in the morning. We came home in the afternoon.</s>DIAZ: What was the last text she sent to you?</s>FORESTER: The last communication I had with her was, "I love you, I care about you. And we`ll talk and sort things out when I get back." I mean --</s>WEINTRAUB: She didn`t even tell you that she was going with Giordano.</s>DIAZ: That`s my point. When we`re talking about motive, Richard, what do you think the motive could be?</s>FORESTER: I don`t know. I mean, I just go on what you guys report. I mean I hear -- it`s hard for me to be unbiased. I hear about a $1.5 million policy and now I hear that he`s the beneficiary. Well, sure, that`s odd, that`s suspicious. I`m hearing all these things about him. But I don`t know what to make of it. I`m not an attorney. I`ve never been in this position. I don`t want to be in this position. But I am for some strange reason. I`m in this club that nobody wants to be in and I didn`t ask to be in it but I`m doing what I have to do. And all I want to do doesn`t matter. I just want to find her. And I want justice to be served. That`s the only thing that matters here. I want to find Robyn and have justice served. That`s it.</s>DIAZ: All right. Richard Forester, I cannot thank you enough for coming on with us once again. And Pat Brown, Jayne Weintraub, both great points made by you guys. Moving on now, a child bride calls it a reality show like no other. Would you watch this 16-year-old and her 51-year-old actor husband? Or is it too much for TV? I`ll talk to her mom live next.</s>UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Each child is different. I have two older daughters and they`re both married to men their own ages. They have great husbands and my daughter Courtney has a great husband. It`s just a different fit.