Concerns Surface Over Control of Weapons Stockpiles in Libya
BALDWIN: The United Nations security council is meeting to decide if now is the time to free up large amounts of Gadhafi's money that it had frozen when the uprising in Libya first began. I want to bring in our senior U.N. correspondent Richard Roth. And Richard, easy question. Has a decision been made?</s>RICHARD ROTH, CNN SENIOR U.N. CORRESPONDENT: The meeting has just started. There's heavy pressure on one country, South Africa, which diplomats say has been the lone holdout. The plan is to release $1.5 billion in frozen assets. This is money that was held when the Security Council passed that resolution to denounce Gadhafi when he was oppressing his own citizens. Now the situation has changed on the ground and they want to give that money. Plus the Libyans on the Libyan transition council, they're asking for $2.5 billion in additional aid. So there's a lot of money going on. The key is to get some stability for the people of Libya after all of this chaos.</s>BALDWIN: Richard, let's check back in with you as you mentioned that meeting just began when it is finished. I definitely want to check back in with you at the U.N. For now, we'll let you go. Richard, thank you very much. I want to get to Mike Baker joining me again today, former CIA covert operations officer. Mike, OK, first I want to -- let's juxtapose what we're seeing in terms of the images coming out of Tripoli and also what we're not. We're seeing amazingly, all the journalists freed from the Rixos hotel, all kinds of celebratory gunfire. My question to you in terms of intel, what aren't we seeing?</s>MIKE BAKER, FORMER CIA COVERT OPERATIONS OFFICER: Well, the outward visuals that we've got, certainly everyone is concerned about the chaos that they're seeing, the firing on the streets, the dumping of weapons outside of the armories. What you're not seeing behind the scenes is on several levels. One is a significant effort by British and French for the most part personnel to try to pull together a chain of command that can bring all these militia and rebel groups under control of one central leadership. So they're not acting somewhat independently. Then what you're not seeing also is all the effort that's been put forward to continue to train the rebels, now to get ahead of the curve and to try to understand how do we create this into a workable military. Most of these people are civilians. Are they going to want to give up their weapons and go home? There's a great deal of gathering intelligence. So there is a great deal of work is done by not only our CIA but also French and British services to be able to debrief recent defectors coming particularly from the military and from the cabinet, try to get a handle on everything from where's Gadhafi to what about the weapons? There are a significant number of weapons that have just basically gone walkabout.</s>BALDWIN: Let me just jump in because this is something I have been struck by, my whole team, watching this story playing out. But the weaponry these rebels have, coming across these different caches as well, now they're getting more weapons from the Gadhafi compound. There has to be a concern of these weapons if no one's looking, they could walk out the back door and fall in the hands of the bad guys.</s>BAKER: Absolutely. And they likely already have to some degree. They have raiding armories for months as they gain control of certain town and bases in the eastern side in particular. And, you know, there can be upwards of 20,000 portable meaning shoulder-fired surface-to-air missiles, Russian built for the most part. And you have all the anti-tank systems, a variety of weapons systems stored up in the armories. And they burst open the doors and these things have started going out. And you can guarantee that nobody is standing at the door with a clipboard taking inventory. So we have got a real concern at some point some extremist elements -- again, not to go down the road say, oh, my good, you know, it's going to be jihad and the extremists will take control of the country. But they will take advantage of the chaos. And first and foremost they'll be looking to take advantage of all these weapons flooding onto the market.</s>BALDWIN: There's the weapons and then that whole stockpile in the city south of Tripoli with the mustard gas. We'll get news from the Pentagon and we'll talk about that next hour. Mike Baker, thank you very, very much. Still ahead here, a coaching legend in women's basketball now facing her toughest competition yet. We're going to tell you about Pat Summitt's stunning medical revelation and why she won't be throwing in the towel just yet.