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I JUST FORGOT THEIR NAME SO UH YOU'RE I SORRY I JUST FORGOT THEM ALL SO I HAVE TO WRITE IT DOWN OKAY SO FINE DO YOU KNOW THEM OR THE NAMES YEAH FOR FOR FOR MY SUR UM JENS YEAH YEAH NO BUT YOUR B YOUR SURNAME UH DAMMAN D. A. W. W. O. DA UH UH M. M. OKAY I MEAN M. DOUBLE M. OKAY AND WHAT'S YOUR NAME PAUL WIEZER PAUL WIEZER W. I. E. S. Z Z. OR S. A. E. Z. ZEE ZEE UH UH ZEE E. R. OKAY WHAT'S YOUR NAME UH MARTIJN YEAH BUT YOUR SURNAME WHAT YOUR SURNAME UH ABBING A. B. B. I. N. G. OKAY THANKS I WAS A LITTLE SHORT ON TIME BUT UH YEAH ME TOO SO THAT'S NOT NO NO NO I JUST FI FIRST MY YEAH SAME HERE OH SORRY UH LET'S SEE WHICH ONE WAS MINE SO LET'S HAVE A LOOK WE HAVE FORTY MINUTES SO IT'S IT'S MORE THAN ENOUGH OKAY PERFECT SO WE HAVE OH NO WHAT'S THAT SO SO WE HAVE UH FORTY MINUTES FOR THIS UH FOR THIS SECOND MEETING AND WE HAVE TO MAKE UH SURE THAT WE GOING T THAT WE ARE SURE THAT WE ARE GOOD THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE UH TH WHAT THE PRODUCT IS GOING TO LIKE LOOK LIKE UH FIRST I HAVE THE NOTES OF THE LAST MEETING SO I SHOWED UH SHOW THEM TO YOU OH SORRY ABOUT THAT I JUST ESCAPE THIS ONE HOW DO I ESCAPE THIS WHAT HOW DO I I ESCAPE THIS S UH PRESENTATION UH LEFT UH AH OKAY JUST YEAH SO AND SHOW SORRY OKAY SO LET'S HAVE A LOOK S AT THIS ONE OKAY SO THE F THE F THE POINTS WE HAD LAST MEETING WAS THE UM SHOULD BE A UNIV UH UNIVERSAL REMOTE CONTROL NO THAT'S I UH S I JUST GOT A EMAIL FROM THE FROM THE PERSONAL COACH AND IT SHOULD BE A T. V. REMOTE CONTROL ONLY SO HAVE YOU CHANGED THAT PART OKAY OKAY UM SO YEAH IT STILL HAS TO BE UH F A R A REMOTE CONTROL FOR KIDS AND ELDERLY IT'S IT'S STILL THE SAME UM ALL THESE POINTS UH WE HAVE TO LOOK AT YOU ALL KNOW THEM BUT UH THERE'S ANOTHER POINT THE UM UH THE MAIN UH PEOPLE OF INTEREST OF THIS COMPANY ARE FORTY PLUS PEOPLE SO THEY'RE OLD AND NOT YOUNGER PEOPLE SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT AS WELL 'SPECIALLY OLD PEOPLE MAYBE BI BIGGER BUTTONS OR SOMETHING I DUNNO YEAH OKAY UH SO SO YEAH THAT'S IT SO JUST YOU CAN DO YOUR PRESENTATION FOR UH WHICH ONE FIRST OKAY OH IT DOESN'T MATTER JUST START WITH THE OKAY MM UH FUNCTIONAL REQUIREMENTS YEAH OKAY WELL MY NAME IS JENS DAMMAN BUT WE'RE IN A GROUP AND I I WILL START IT WAIT UM I'VE USED A MARKETING REPORT ON UH THE SITE UH I THINK YOU'VE UH READ IT TOO UH AND UH F AND FURTHERMORE I UH SURFED THE O THE OTHER SITE I I DIDN'T READ I READ IT SO IT'S NOT FOR ME I DIDN'T GET IT UH ANYWAY YOU DIDN'T READ IT NO I DIDN DON'T THING WE GOT IT OH OKAY I I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO GET IT IT'S ONLY FOR YOU YEAH YES OKAY IT WAS UH UH UH UM UM A REPORT ABOUT UH AN EXPERIMENT WITH UH A LOT OF USERS AND UH THEY HAD A LOT OF FINDINGS IN THEIR REPORT UH WITH STATISTICAL UH UH UH THING UH WITH STATISTICAL UH PROOF SO I UM I HAD THREE PAGES WITH FINDINGS AND SEV A LOT OF UH A LOT OF FINDINGS SO WE CAN USE THIS UH TO UH CREATE OUR OWN REMOTE CONTROL UH SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT OF THE USERS FIND UH MOST REMOTE CONTROLS UGLY YEAH I THINK UH UH THAT'S A LOT SO WE HAVE TO MAKE A BEAUTIFUL REMOTE CONTROL UH EIGHTY PERCENT OF USERS WOULD SPEND WHEN UH A REMOTE CONTROL WILL L UH LOOK FANCY I THINK THIS FITS UH AT THE UH WHAT WHAT UH MICHAEL SAID ABOUT UH OLDER PEOPLE OLDER PEOPLE WILL UH SPEND MORE MONEY UH FOR UH SOMETHING UH UH WHAT'S GOOD BECAUSE YOUNGER PEOPLE ARE MORE CRITICAL UH ABOUT UH UH WHERE THEY SPEND THEIR MONEY MONEY AT UH SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT UH SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT OF THE USERS SAY THEY ZAP A LOT WELL OKAY THAT'S UH NORMAL I THINK UH WE WE HAVE TO MAKE UH GOOD ZAP BUTTONS BUT THAT'S ONE OF OUR REQUIREMENTS THE LAST POINT IS QUITE AN INTERESTING YES FIFTY PERCENT OF USERS SAY THEY ONLY USE TEN PERCENT OF THE BUTTONS UM MARTIJN ALR ALREADY SAID IT SO IF WE YEAH AND UH MAYBE OUR UH FOLD OPEN SYSTEM IS IS A GOOD ONE BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S UH YEAH WE SHOULD HAVE THE TEN PERCENT ON THE ON THE TOP THEN YOU'RE YOU'RE REACHABLE YEAH THE TEN PERCENT ON THE TOP YEAH YEAH THAT THAT'S A GOOD ONE UM UH PAGE TWO REMOTE CONTROLS ARE OFTEN LOST SOMEWHERE IN THE ROOM THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE SAID ABOUT UM MAYBE A HOME STATION FOR UH FOR IT UH TO UH RECHARGE THE BATTERIES OR SOMETHING UH I THOUGHT MO MAYBE WE COULD MAKE A CLAP SYSTEM SO WHEN YOU CLAP YOUR HANDS IT WILL BEEP OR SOMETHING UH YOU MUST FIND IT UH QUICKLY UH MAYBE JUST A BUTTON ON THE HOME STATION SO REMOTE CONTROL BEEPS WHEN YOU CLICK THAT BUTTON ON THE HOME STATION OKAY YEAH YEAH WE CAN UH COMBINE THAT UH IT TAKES TOO MUCH TIME TO LEARN HOW TO USE A R NEW REMOTE CONTROL UH I THINK WE MUST T UH TAKE A LOOK AT THIS IT'S ONLY UH TH THIRTY FOUR OF THE THIRTY FOUR PERCENT BUT IT'S UH A TOUGH ONE BECAUSE IF WE MAKE A HA WHOLE NEW PRODUCT OUR OWN STYLE WE WE C UH THIS IS SO DIFFICULT UH A DIFFICULTY I THINK UH NEXT REMOTE CONTROLS ARE BAD FOR R. S. I. YEAH BUT ONLY IF THEY ZAP A LOT AND THEY WATCH OVER FIVE HOURS T. V. OR SOMETHING I DON'T WE WE HAVEN'T UH WE MUSTN'T LOOK TOO MUCH AT UH THE LAST POINT OKAY LAST PAGE UH THE LAST UH EXPERIMENT UH WAS ABOUT GADGETS LIKE UH SPEECH RECOGNITION WE DIDN'T UH THINK ABOUT THAT ALREADY AND UH AN L. C. D. ON THE REMOTE CONTROL WE ALREADY THOUGHT ABOUT THAT UM UH THEY FINALLY HAD A CONCLUSION THAT YOUNGER PEOPLE UM UH UNDER AN AGE OF F FORTY FIVE ARE UH MORE INTERESTED IN NEW FEATURES AND BUT THEY'RE MORE CRITICAL AND OLDER PEOPLE UH WANT TO SPEND UH MORE MONEY BUT UH THEY UH THEY DON'T WANT TO UH HAVE A LOT OF UH NEW FEATURES BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THEIR OLD UH THINKING WAY AND THEY WANT TO KEEP THE OLD UH THINGS THE OLD THINGS SO WE HAVE UH A NEW UH AGE OF FORTY PLUS BUT Y BUT YOU BUT YOU ALREADY SAID THAT THE UH COMPANY WAS ABOUT UH FORTY PLUS UH CLIENTS PEOPLE SO YEAH SO WE JUST CAN SKIP THE L. C. D. R ON THE REMOTE CONTROL BECAUSE I I THINK WE CAN SPEAK UH WE CAN SKIP SPEECH RECOGNITION UH DIRECTLY BECAUSE IT'S NOT REACHABLE FOR TWENTY FIVE EUROS YEAH YEAH IT'S TOO OKAY YEAH UM THEN I HAVE MY PERSONAL UH PREFERENCE OKAY THAT'S NOT VERY GOOD BECAUSE I THOUGHT ABOUT TELEVISION D. V. D. PLAYER STEREO AND V. C. R. I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT BUT IT'S ALREADY OUT OF THE QUESTION THIS UM MY POINT IS WELL I IF WE MA UH MAKE A A REMOTE UH CONTROL FOR ONLY TELEVISION I THINK IT'S HARD TO UH SELL IT FOR TWENTY FIVE EUROS BUT IT'S THE EXERCISE BECAUSE IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE YEAH ONLY ONLY FOR TELEVISION UH ON THE MARKET YOU CAN NOW BUY FOR TWENTY EUROS A REMOTE CONTROL FOR EVERYTHING YEAH PROBABLY AND WE ONLY MAKE IT FOR TELEVISION SO WE MI MM WE M MUST MADE IT MAKE IT UH VERY SPECIAL YEAH BUT GOOD USABILITY SO YOU CAN USE IT OKAY I TOLD ABOUT THE HOME STATION UH IT MUST BE SIMPLE BECAUSE UH OUR THE THE ELDERLY PEOPLE UH NEEDS TO USE IT AND I I FOUND A MOTTO AND WE PUT THE FASHION IN ELECTRONICS AND THAT'S UH THE MOTTO WE ARE UH REFERENCED TO UH FOR OUR UH OUR STYLE WE WE HAVE TO MAKE A A NEW PRODUCT WE HAVE TO BE UM YEAH ONE OF A KIND I THINK SO IT HAS TO LOOK UH UH UH UNIQUE BUT UNIQUE THE COMPANY IS ABOUT OUR UH TH TH THEIR OWN FASHION THEIR OWN STYLE YEAH I RECKON YEAH BUT OLD PEOPLE ARE NOT LOOKING FOR THAT UH I THINK MM NOT REALLY YEAH UH I THINK THE MAIN THING IS THE USABILITY THAT'S WHERE WE CAN UH MAKE IT A SPECIAL PRODUCT YEAH YEAH TO K TO KEEP IT SIMPLE WHEN YOU SORRY I THOUGHT ABOUT IT YES OKAY YEAH BUT UH WE ALSO HAVE TO STAND OUT 'CAUSE THERE ARE ALREADY LIKE YOU SAID SO MANY CONTROLS OUT THAT SUPPORT LOT OF STUFF YEAH BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BETTER USABILITY AND STAND OUT BY JUST LOOKS OF IT SO MAKE IT JUST A DIFFERENT COLOUR OR DIFFERENT SHAPE SO YEAH OKAY OKAY THIS WAS UH MY PRESENTATION THANKS OKAY I DON'T YEAH SO PAUL YOU CAN DO THE NEXT ONE IF YOU WANT YOU CAN ASK SOME QUESTIONS OR SOMETHING OKAY YEAH WELL UH IT'S ON THE ON THE UH NET NET UH THING ISN'T IT THERE IT IS OKAY TECHNICAL FUNCTIONS DESIGN OKAY WELL SO WE HAVE S MM UH BROAD AUDIENCE ISN'T THAT ISN'T TRUE ANYMORE BUT UM WE HAVE ELDERLY PEOPLE SO WE NEED TO KEEP IT SIMPLE UH THE WAY I WANT TO KEEP IT SIMPLE IS TO USE THE SEN UH STANDARD SO STANDARDISED UH METHODS LIKE UH ON ALL UH REMOTE CONTROLS NOT TOO FULL LIKE UH JENS ALREADY SAID ONLY TEN PERCENT IS BEING USED SO WHAT DO YOU THINK OF ONLY THE NUMBERS AND THE ON OFF BUTTON OR YEAH I HAVE IT ON THE NEXT PAGE BUT YES UH BASIC FUNCTIONS LIKE NUMBERS AND THAT SORT OF STUFF OKAY UM SO THE OPTIONS THAT WE PUT ON THERE SHOULD BE EASY TO USE AND 'CAUSE YOU HAVE MORE ROOM THEN AND FOR ELDERLY PEOPLE BIG BUTTONS UH AN ICON ON IT OR TEXT ON IT SO IT'S VERY CLEAR WHAT THAT BUTTONS DOES SO IT DOESN'T TAKE MUCH TIME TO FIGURE OUT UH HOW TO USE IT UM A WAY TO FIND OUT UH WHAT PEOPLE USE IS MAYBE JUST TO USE UH QUESTIONNAIRES ON THE INTERNET OR JUST ASK SOME RANDOM PEOPLE ELDERLY PEOPLE WHAT THEY USE WHAT THEY WANT ON A REMOTE CONTROL YEAH TO FIND OUT BUT THERE IS ALREADY IN A ONE DONE OF FUNCTIONS I COULD THINK OF UH VOLUME CHANNELS THE THE BASIC ACCORDING TO JUST ONE TWO THREE ETCETERA UH TEXT SERVICE OPTIONS UM BASIC ON OFF AND I FOUND AN UH COULD I THINK OF FAVOURITES I ALWAYS LOOK UP THE SAME UM PAGES ON TEXT AND ALWAYS HAVE TO CLICK THE NUMBER OKAY BUT IF YOU COULD MAKE A NEW OPTION THAT YOU JUST HAVE TO PRESS ONE BUTTON AND YOU GET ON YOUR YEAH BUT THEN YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER WHAT FAVOURITE IS WHAT CHANNEL SO YOU MIGHT AS WELL REMEMBER THE NUMBER OR NOT NO Y MAYBE I MAYBE IT'S TOO COMPLICATED BUT NOT SURE WELL IT'S IT WAS JUST A THOUGHT IT'S A GOOD IDEA BUT SO I'M I U I WOULD FIND IT HANDY I THINK WHEN YOU JUST PRESS ONE BUTTON AND YOU GET ON SIX SIX SIX YEAH OKAY BUT UM HOW CAN YOU REMEMBER WHAT UH CHANNEL UH CONNECTS TO WHAT FAVOURITE BUTTON WELL UH WHAT I WAS READING ON THE PAGE UH UH A REMOTE CONTROL JUST SENDS COMMANDS BASICS COMMANDS TO UH THE TELEVISION SO SWITCH TO CHANNEL SIX YEAH SO UH BUTTON SIX SAYS SAYS SIX AND IF YOU MAKE FAVOURITES IT CAN SAY SIX SIX SIX IN A ROW JUST NUMBERS THAT CAN BE IN THE IN THE YEAH OKAY BUT UH UH FOR A USER TO TO REMEMBER IF I PRESS THAT BUTTON IT GOES TO THAT CHANNEL WELL IF YOU SAID A FAVOURITE YEAH BUT ISN'T IT HARD TO REMEMBER LIKE FAVOURITE ONE AND UH MAYB FOR ME IT'S IF I USE MY TELEPHONE I NEVER USE THOSE BUTTONS TO TO TO CALL SH NEVER WELL I MM AS AS HARD AS NEVER NO NEITHER DO I OH OH ARE YOU SO AND OKAY NOW M MAYBE NOT IF I DON'T DO IT MAYBE OLD PEOPLE NO MAYBE ELDERLY PEOPLE UH YEAH I DUNNO RIGHT THEY DON'T LIKE NEW FEATURES SO MAYBE NOT MM-HMM UM WELL PLAY PAUSE I DUNNO IF THAT'S USABLE WHEN IT'S NOT IT'S STILL NOT IT'S NOT ANYMORE N UH NOT ANYMORE FOR T. V. RIGHT ON OFF I DUNNO MISS DID I MISS ANY OTHER BUTTONS BASIC BUTTONS UM I COULDN'T THINK OF ANY OTHER 'SPECIALLY NOT FOR T. V. JUST ON THE FRONT AS WELL NO THAT'S THE ONLY TH THE ONLY THING YOU NEED IS UH UH THE P UH NEXT AND PREVIOUS PREVIOUS I KNOW BUT NEXT CHANNEL JUST THE CHANNEL UM UH WHAT I MEAN IS UH I DON'T THI FORWARD LI LIKE A WEB BROWSER SO OH OKAY SIX SEVEN EIGHT OR FIVE JUST VERY SIMPLE BUT UH UM THERE'S ALSO A BUTTON TO UH GO TO THE CHANNEL YOU'VE BEEN BEFORE LIKE A WEB BROWSER BACK BUTTON UM I DUNNO UH YEAH I KNOW WHAT IT IS BUT I THINK IT'S ALL TOO DIFFICULT FOR OLD PEOPLE I DON'T HAVE UH I DID NO YEAH I DON'T THINK YOU USE THAT UH YEAH OKAY Y ONLY WHEN YOU WANT TO GO TO YEAH JUST USE UH WHEN YOU WANNA SWITCH BETWEEN CHANNELS ALL THE TIME AND HOW DO YOU WANT TO UH DO IT LIKE IF YOU HAVE A CHANNEL ABOVE TEN YEAH NORMALLY YOU CAN PRESS ONE ZERO OR YEAH I THINK UM F ESPECIALLY FOR OLDER PEO ELDERLY PEOPLE USE STANDARD BUTTONS SO YOU HAVE THAT UH A TEN PLUS OR YEAH THE TEN PLUS BUTTON JUST UH ONE ONE PRESSING OR QUICKLY AFTER EACH OTHER OKAY TO JUST KEEP IT SIMPLE AND STANDARD UH FEATURES YEAH W WOULDN'T IT BE A PROBLEM TO UH BECAUSE YOU H HAVE TO BE FAST ENOUGH MAYBE THE ELDERLY PEOPLE UH YEAH MAYB BUT I THINK THAT'S IN THE T. V. AS WELL IT GETS SOME SECONDS THAT'S HOW THE UH THE T. V. T. V. HANDLES IT BUT YOU CAN HAVE A BUTTON THAT SAYS UM TWO TWO ST TWO STRIPES YEAH IT'S IT'S NO IT'S NOT A OH OKAY YEAH SO YOU HAVE UH LIKE A FIVE SECONDS PERIOD TO PRESS THOSE TWO BUTTONS YEAH BUT THAT'S TH MM IT'S WHAT PAUL SAYS IT'S NOT A REMOTE CONTROL UH UH THAT UM UH MAKES THE T. V. UM DO ONE TWO IT'S THE T. V. WHO DEPENDS THAT IT MUST BE TWO SECONDS OR THREE SECONDS OR ONE SECOND THAT YOU MUST UH TYPE ONE OR TWO OKAY SO IF YOU HAVE A UNIVERSAL T. V. CONTROLLER YOU NEEDED ONE BUTTON THAT HAS TWO UH STRIPES YEAH YEAH SO WE HAVE A A PERIOD OF I DUNNO FIVE SECONDS TO PRESS THOSE BUTTONS AND THAT AND NOT FOR ELDERLY PEOPLE TO LOOK ONE TWO UH PRESS AND AIM AND YEAH BUT DO WE STILL NEED A TWO LEVEL REMOTE CONTROL BECAUSE IF WE ONLY HAVE THAT L ONLY F NO IT'S ONLY FOR TELEVISION NOW SO I I DON'T THINK SO NO UH I JUST THOUGHT OF ANOTHER ONE MOST THINGS IN MODERN T. V. S ARE ALSO ON THE MENU YEAH SO YOU ALSO NEED A MENU BUTTON AND THEN UH NAVIGATION UH BUT WE CAN INTEGRATE THAT WITH VOLUME AND PREVIOUS AND NEXT SO YOU HAVE YEAH I I THINK YOU HA REALLY HAVE TO DIVIDE BETWEEN FUNCTIONS YOU OFTEN USE FOUR ARROWS LIKE UM UH M MAYBE UH SWITCH CHANNELS AND UH VOLUME AND K THAT KIND OF THINGS AND UH THE MENU BUTTON BECAUSE YOU N ALMOST NEVER USE MENU BUTTON YEAH OKAY BUT UM SO MAYBE IT'S STILL STILL A GOOD IDEA I'M NOT SURE YOU'LL ALSO HAVE TO USE A MUTE BUTTON TO TO YEAH A MUTE BUTTON YES MAYBE NOT I DON'T KNOW WHERE WHERE YOU HAVE TO PUT IT DON'T THINK SO YEAH WELL THAT'S THAT'S I THINK THAT'S THE LAYERS THAT PRODUCE NOW I HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S UH WHAT TO PUT ON OKAY WHAT WE'RE GONNA USE YEAH YEAH OKAY THAT'S RIGHT AND LATER WE CAN D UH DO THE DESIGN OKAY UH NOW MY PERSONAL PREFERENCES UH USING THE STANDARDS BASIC UM I THINK THAT WE SHOULD STAND OUT UH UNIQUE BEING UNIQUE WITH THE DESIGN SO WE HAVE TO I DUNNO UH MAKE A DIFFERENT SHAPE THAN USUAL SO WHEN YOU ARE IN THE SHOP AND YOU SEE OUR T. V. CONTROLLER HANGING THAT IT STANDS OUT NOT JUST IN IN THE ROW WHEN YOU SEE ALL THE SAME UH REMOTE CONTROLS YEAH DOES IT HAVE TO BE UH IT HAS TO BE UH WITH DIFFERENT COLOURS OR UM I DUNNO DIFFERENT COLOURS UM MAYBE WE CAN GIVE IT OUT IN DIFFERENT COLOURS YOU CAN CHOOSE BLUE OR YELLOW OR IT'S LIKE A IMAC OR SOMETHING JUST TO MAKE IT MM-HMM YEAH WELL WHY NOT OR YEAH THAT'S FA THAT'S FANCY THAT'S UH FASHION BUT IT LOOKS CHEAP AS WELL BECAUSE IT'S A SMALL THING IT'S ONLY TWENTY FIVE EUROS IT LOOKS VERY CHEAP IF YOU MAKE IT WELL MAYBE YOU CAN LOOK AT UH MOBILE PHONES OH YOU JUST I DUNNO WHAT HAPPENED OH WHO YEAH WE HAVE TO LOOK AT MOBILE PHONES THAT'S RIGHT THEY THEY'RE UH DESIGNED VERY WELL JUST AND WELL BASICALLY ARE THE SAME JUST A BIT SMALLER YEAH YOU THINK YOU CAN'T MAKE A T. V. CONTROLLER TOO SMALL 'CAUSE THEN YOU WILL ALWAYS LO ALWAYS LOSE IT YEAH BUT UH WELL I THINK THAT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE OKAY OKAY WE HURRY UP A BIT BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE WON'T MAKE IT OKAY SORRY IS IT FIN ARE YOU FINISHED WELL UH YEAH I I'M FINISHED OKAY I THINK WE DISCUSSED EVERYTHING OKAY WELL THE WORKING DESIGN THE METHOD I USED IS UH SEARCH THE WEB JUST THE WEB PAGE PROVIDED UM BASICALLY I'M I'M NOT VERY TECHNICAL UH UH EDUCATED BUT UH I COULD FIGURE IT OUT UM BASICALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU PRESS A BUTTON UH THEN A CIRCUIT GETS CLOSED BY PRESSING THE BUTTON UH LIKE A SWITCH AND BY CLOSING THAT CERTAIN CIRCUIT THE CHIP KNOWS UH WHAT BU BUTTON IS PRESSED SO LIKE YOU PRESS A ONE THAT CIRCUIT IS CLOSED AND UH THEN THE CHIP PRODUCES A PATTERN LIKE A MORSE CODE TO UH AND AND SENDS THAT TO THE UH L. E. D. THAT'S THE UH LIGHT EMITTING DIODE I THINK UM AND THE LIGHT EMITTING DIODE IS UH PRODUCING INFRARED LIGHT THAT'S UN UH INVISIBLE TO THE HUMAN EYE AND UH TRANSMIT THAT UH TO THE T. V. HOWEVER IT HAS ALSO AN UH A VISIBLE UH DIODE THAT'S UH BLINKING RED IF YOU LOOK IN IT MM-HMM AND THAT'S UH ANOTHER DIODE I BELIEVE BECAUSE INFRARED IS NOT VISIBLE SO THAT'S ER UH DO TWO DIFFERENT THINGS BUT SO WE WE ALSO HAVE TO HAVE A LED LI LED LIGHT ON IT YEAH I I THINK SO UH J IS AIN'T IT JUST TO TO INDICATE THAT IT'S TRANSMITTING I I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S THE SAME THING YEAH IT'S I THINK IT'S USABLE YEAH THAT'S ACTIVE YEAH YEAH SO OR JUST A GREEN ONE BECAUSE IT'S IF YOU USE IT IT'S GREEN OR THE RED IT'S R GREEN YEAH MAYBE UH I I THINK IT'S IN THE CASE THAT IT'S ACTIVE IT'S NOT UH YEAH WHEN YOU PRESS IT YEAH THAT'S RIGHT BUT IF YOU SO I IT'S IT'S JUST UH THE THE TWO RED'S L SHOWS UP LIKE SOMETHING'S WRONG AND GREEN IS LIKE IT'S OKAY YOU PRESS THE BUTTON MM YEAH I DUNNO MAYBE DEPENDS ON UH MA ON ON MOST ON MOST UH UH REMOTE CONTROLS IT'S RED YEAH I KNOW SO YES YEAH OKAY WE MAKE IT RED SO I KNOW BUT MAYBE WELL WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE IT RED MAYBE INTEGRATE IT IN THE DESIGN AS WELL YOU HAVE TO THE WHOLE THE WHOLE UH REMOTE CONTROL BECOMES UH GREEN IF YOU PRESS THE BUTTONS I I THINK UH THE BATTERIES WILL BE UH A LITTLE YEAH OKAY UH THAT'S COOL UH OH MAYBE IT'S IT IS WOULD AN E NO EMPTY JUST UH NO WE HAVE A RECHARGER IN IT SO OH UH MAYBE IF WE CAN STILL MAKE THAT THEN YEAH BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE RED IT'S JUST TO INDICATE SOMETHING'S ON YEAH YEAH THAT IT'S WORKING THAT IT'S NOT NOT THE BATTERIES ARE LOW YEAH BUT IT'S COOL IF IT WAS GREEN IT'S IT'S NOT VERY IMPORTANT SO YEAH GREEN OR RED OR WHATEVER IT IS COOL YEAH I KNOW JUST TO INDICATE IT'S WORKING SO MM AND UH THE RECEPTOR IN THE T. V. SENSES THE PATTERN SO WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT PATTERNS ARE USED TO YOU KNOW TO MAKE IT UNIVERSAL SO THAT IT CAN BE USED WITH ALL THE T. V. S WE HAVE TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT PATTERNS ARE USED SO WE CAN UH O ON THE OTHERWISE IT WON'T WORK SO WE HAVE TO UH MAKE BUTTONS FOR THAT AS WELL TO MAKE IT UH NO I I UH THE CHIP UM UH IS PRODUCING THE PATTERN SO WE HAVE TO MAKE A CHIP THAT PRODUCES PATTERNS TO Y YOU KNOW TO YEAH OKAY AN AUTOMATICALLY SEARCH FUNCTION FOR EACH TELEVISION OR SOMETHING THAT ARE WORKING YEAH OR I DUNNO HOW IT'S UH EXACTLY HOW IT WORKS IT WASN'T EXPLAINED THERE WELL I I USE A UNIVERSAL UH REMOTE CONTROL AND LIST OF ALL THE T. V. S YOU HAVE ETCETERA UH I KNO AND YOU HAVE TO PUT IN A NUMBER SO IT WORKS ON YOUR T. V. YEAH OKAY OH I HAVE A MODERN ONE AND THE MODERN ONE YOU YOU UH YOU TYPE UH SEARCH AND THE LED BEGAN TO BLINK BLINK BLINK AND UH UH UH AFTER UH A SHORT TIME THE TELEVISION TURNS OFF AND THEN YOU KNOW OH IT IT'S THE RIGHT ONE AND YOU CAN STOP IT AND THEN IT'S OKAY AH OKAY SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO SEARCH FOR YOUR TELEVISION OR YOUR CODE OKAY IT UH SEARCH UH THE PATTERN FOR ITSELF OKAY YEAH OKAY SO WE USE THAT SO IT UH WE HAVE TO MAKE A A S A BIT MORE INTELLIGENT CHIP THAN THE STANDARD ONE YES BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO YEAH YEP I JUST SAY CAN YOU S JUST SAY IT AGAIN BECAUSE I WAS JUST LOOKING THERE'S JUST A SHORT UH OKAY WELL UH Y YOU HAVE THIS CHIP YEAH THAT'S UH WHEN THE CIRCUIT IS CLOSED IT PRODUCES THE PATTERN MM-HMM BUT UH MA BASICALLY FOR UH BRANDS OF T. V. THESE PATTERNS ARE DIFFERENT SO LIKE WHEN YOU PRESS A ONE ON ONE T. V. IT GO GO TO ONE AND ON THE OTHER T. V. IT WON'T WORK BASICALLY SO UH BASICALLY WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO IS UH GET THESE PATTERNS RIGHT YEAH AND UH BY D UH THAT CAN BE DONE BY UH JUST UH CHA YEAH CHANGING THIS PATTERN ALL THE TIME CHANGING THE SIGNAL AND UM WHAT HE'S DOING WHEN HE'S CONFIGURING THIS PATTERN THIS CHIP UH IS TRYING TO SWITCH OFF THE TELEVISION AND WHEN IT'S UH SWITCHED OFF YOU CAN PUSH A BUTTON AS UH IT'S WORKING NOW SO AND THEN HE SAVES THAT SETTING AND THEN UM IT'S WORKING OKAY YEAH YEAH THAT'S THE RIGHT UH OPTION OKAY WELL UH THE COMPONENTS YEAH THAT'S A BIT TECHNICAL AND I HADN'T I W I WAS A LITTLE SHORT ON TIME UM BUT I THINK I UNDERSTAND IT UM THE ENERGY SOURCE IS UH THE BATTERY BASICALLY YEAH UM THAT'S CONNECTING TO ALL THE COMPONENTS BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE FED WITH ENERGY OKAY UH THE SUBCOMPONENT IS UH W I I THINK IT IS UH THE BUTTON PRESSED SO BASICALLY WHEN YOU PRESS A BUTTON A SWITCH GET CLOSED UM THAT'S CONNECTING TO A CHIP SO THE CHIP KNOWS WHAT BUTTON YOU PRESSED AND THE CHIP SENDS OUT UH THE PATTERN TO THE INFRARED BULB I DIDN DIDN'T PUT THE DESCRIPTION BY THIS ONE TH THIS IS A NORMAL BULB SO THE NORMAL FLASHING LIGHT OKAY SO THAT'S THE LED L. E. D. YEAH YEAH AND THIS IS A LED TOO BUT THIS ONE IS PRODUCING INFRARED LIGHT THAT'S INVISIBLE YEAH OKAY AND THIS ONE IS PRODUCING NORMAL LIGHT SO WE CAN MAKE THE NORMAL ONE ALSO A NORMAL LIGHT NOT A LED LIGHT BUT AS A NORMAL ONE YEAH TO FLASH UP YOUR UH IF YOU IF YOU USE THE BUTTONS UH BOTH OF THEM WORKS BUT ONE YOU CAN'T SEE AND ONE INDICATES THAT YOU USE A BUTTON YEAH YEAH PRESU YEAH YEAH YEAH BECAUSE UH WHEN YOU BUTTON PRESS A BUTTON AND IT DOESN'T WORK IT CAN BASICALLY IF THE BATTERY IS LOW IT WON'T WORK YEAH YEAH AND SO YOU HAVE TO INDICATE THAT IT'S MAYBE YOU HAVE TO UH PUT UH A SMALL LIGHT AROUND THE BUTTON YOU PUSH SO YOU SEE GREEN IF YOU PUSH THAT BUTTON HUH THAT'S A GOOD IDEA MM I THINK IT'S UNNECESSARY POWER UH YOU USE THEN YEAH BUT IF YOU U IF YOU DO THAT YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE UH SENDING A SIGNAL NO Y YEAH OKAY AND IT'S YOU ALSO KNOW WHICH BUTTON YOU P BUT THEN HAVE TO BE ON THE IN THE ALL UH REMOTE CONTROL HAVE TO BE LEDS YEAH THAT'S RIGHT BUT IT EVERYWHERE IN THE R BUT DOES IT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE FOR THE ENERGY YOU USE YOU GOT STILL ONE LED NO I DON'T THINK SO BUT YEAH I IT IT WILL LOOK DIFFERENT AND I THINK WE NEED TO FIND SOMETHING ELSE THAT LOOKS DIFFERENT YEAH YEAH HMM 'CAUSE OTHERWISE WE WILL JUST MAKE ANOTHER STANDARD AND OUR UH MOTTO ALSO IS IS LEDS UH BENEATH THE THE BUTTONS YEAH W AROUND THE BUTTONS OR IN THE BUTTONS EVEN YEAH OKAY YEAH BUT MM LIKE WHEN YOU PUSH IT N N YEAH YEAH THEN THEN WON'T THEN YOU WON'T SEE IT YOU HAVE YOUR FINGER OVER THE BUTTON SO YOU CAN SEE YEAH IT MUST BE AROUND IT THEN OR OR M MAYBE ON TOP OF THE A GREEN LIGHT IS FLASHING OR YEAH THEN YEAH NOT NOT NOT NOT HERE BUT HERE YEAH THERE YEAH MAYBE UH THE SAME AS A TELEPHONE OR A MOBILE PHONE OR WHAT DO YOU MEAN YEAH WE'RE THINKING ABOUT IT UH ON A MOBILE PHONE IN THE DARK UH IF YOU PUSH IT LIGHTS UP EVERYTHING LIGHTS UP EVERYTHING LIGHTS UP THAT'S A GOOD IDEA YEAH WHY AIN'T THAT ON A REMOTE CONTROL IT IT ONLY TAKES A L A LITTLE ENERGY AND IT'S NOT THAT MUCH YEAH IF UH A MOBILE PHONE A PHONE CAN DO IT IT'S OKAY YEAH IT'S F YEAH MAYBE THAT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR OLD PEOPLE AS WELL YEAH I IF YOU'RE IN THE DARK YOU CAN'T SEE THE REMOTE MM-HMM IT'S ONLY FEW LEDS YEAH ONLY FOUR OR SOMETHING FOUR LED NO I DUNNO BUT IF WE USE A BATTERY STATION WHICH I THINK WE WILL USE YEAH I UH YEAH THAT'S A GOOD IDEA OKAY YEAH WE'LL HAVE ENOUGH POWER TO EVERYTHING AGRE EVERYONE AGREES WITH THAT OR OKAY YEAH YEAH YEP MAYBE WHAT PAUL SAID UH UNDER THE ON THE ON THE HOME STATION UH A BUTTON TO UH TO CALL YOUR UH REMOTE CONTROL THAT IT BEEPS YEAH AND THEN YOU OKAY YEAH AND ALSO IT'S BUT YOU HAVE TO MAKE A SOUND DEVICE IN IT THEN YEAH THERE MUST BE SOUND IN IT HMM BUT YEAH OKAY IT SHOULDN'T TAKE MUCH I DUNNO YEAH B MAYBE IT'S THAT THAT'S A LITTLE TOO HARD TO MAKE ESPECIALLY FOR THAT KIND OF MONEY BECAUSE IT'S I IT HAS TO BE YEAH MM UH TWENTY FIVE EUROS I THINK WE CAN MAKE IT UH I TH PRODUCTION COST IS UH T UH TWELVE AND A HALF BEC TWELVE AND A HALF OKAY BUT BUT WE ONLY HAVE TO MAKE IT FOR TELEVISION AND UM WE MUST HAVE SOMETHING SPECIAL YEAH OKAY I THINK UH YOU ALSO HAVE UH REMOTE CONTROLS WITH A LOT OF OPTIONS SO BUT WE LOSE ABOUT NINETY PERCENT OF THOSE OPTIONS SO I THINK YOU CAN UH UH WE HAVE TO GIVE OUR CUSTOMERS SOME EXTRAS YEAH YEAH OKAY I THINK WE WILL SAVE MONEY WITH THAT OKAY ARE YOU ALMOST FINISHED OR JUST YEAH THE THE PERSONAL PREFERENCE I DIDN'T FILL IT OUT BECAUSE I WAS SHORT ON TIME OKAY OKAY NO WORRY BUT UM BASICALLY WHAT WE COULD DO TOO IS UH HAVE A BLUETOOTH UH INTEGRATION YEAH I JUST WANT TO TALK SOME ABOUT SOME MORE SO MAYBE YOU HAVE TO YEAH YEAH OKAY OKAY SO THIS OH SORRY WH WHAT'S THAT SO UH OH SORRY WE HAVE SOME NEW UH PROJECT REQUIREMENTS WE HAVE TO HAVE A LOOK WHAT THEY ARE THEY'RE STILL IN UM UH TELETEXT HAS BECOME OUTDATED SINCE THE POPULARITY OF INTERNET SO A TELETEXT OPTION MAYBE WE HAVE TO SKIP THAT ONE I'M NOT SURE I DON'T THINK SO BUT NO AND I I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE USE UH TELETEXT STILL USE NO YEAH AND IT'S IT'S ON YOUR COMP IT'S ON YOUR TELEVISION IT'S ONLY ONE BUTTON SO I DON'T THINK IT IS WE DEFINITELY SHOULD USE IT UH YEAH HMM UM YEAH THAT'S UH WHAT I TOLD YOU THE REMOTE CONTROL SHOULD ONLY BE USED FOR A TELEVISION SO THAT'S MAYBE EASIER AND UM THE THE FORTY PLUS PEOPLE I ALREADY TOLD YOU OH NO SORRY OH THIS IS A PROBLEM OH SORRY ABOUT THAT THE NEW PRODUCT SHOULD REACH A NEW MARKET WITH CUSTOMERS ARE THE YOUNGER THAN FORTY SO IT SHOULD BE FLASHY OR JUST MORE INTERESTING OKAY OH OKAY THAT'S IT CHANGES THINGS MM I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT I JUST I JUST DIDN'T READ IT WELL SO DOES IT MAKE SOME DECISION ABOUT THAT CHANGES YEAH UM THAT KINDA CHANGES THE WHOLE SITUATION UH WELL YEAH THEN WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME NICE FEATURES I THINK UH THE THING IN THE DARK IS A GOOD WAY TO MAKE IT MORE LIKE A MOBILE PHONE THAT STILL STAYS YEAH MORE MODERN YEAH THAT'S IMPORTANT I THINK AND L. C. D. DOESN'T WORK FOR UH TWELVE AND A HALF EUROS I THINK AND I D I DON'T DON'T THINK IT'S VERY USABLE IN A REMOTE CONTROL ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ONLY HAVE T. V. FUNCTIONS ON IT OH YEAH MM AH I I DON'T Y YOU'LL USE IT OFTEN BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE ON THE TELEVISION WH WHAT CHANNEL YOU SO OH I'M WATCHING UH THE CHANNEL ONE OKAY YEAH I THO I THINK THAT'S NOT USABLE NO IT'S NOT NO SO BUT UH YEAH WHAT OTHER FEATURES CAN WE PUT IN YEAH I THINK YOU YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT A BIT FLASHY AND AND POPULAR AND UH THEN THE USABILITY IS NOT THAT REQUIRED BECAUSE THE LIKE IN THE MOBILE PHONES USABILITY IS NOT THAT GOOD I THINK BUT UH SOME OF YOU HAD UH SOMETHING TO READ ABOUT UM UH SPEECH UH RECOGNITION ABOUT YOU SAID ONE AND THE TELEVISION TURNS ON ONE IS THAT REACHABLE MAYBE THAT'S VERY THAT'S FANCY I DIDN'T READ THAT'S COOL IT'S VERY FASHION I DIDN'T READ ANY B YEAH TWELVE AND YOU'VE GOT TWELVE YEAH OKAY MM ONLY THE NUMBERS ONLY NUMBERS I I KNOW UH FURTHERMORE NOTHING BUT ONLY THE NUMBERS ONE TO TWENTY OR SOMETHING MM THAT SHOULD BE COOL YEAH MAYBE WE HAVE TO INTEGRATE THAT AS WELL IF IT'S POSSIBLE IF IT'S POSSIBLE I DUNNO BUT YEAH I DON'T KNOW I DIDN'T READ IT I DON'T THINK IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE ACTUALLY MM WHY SHOULD IT UH IF I IF I I DIDN'T HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT YEAH I THINK IT'S YOU ONLY HAVE A MICROPHONE IN IT YEAH BUT IT HAS TO WORK AND AND AND DOES IT HAVE TO WORK ONLY IN ENGLISH OR IN DUTCH TOO OR NAH MAYBE AH THAT'S A PROBLEM BUT AND AND UH W YEAH UH ONLY IN ENGLISH WHAT BUT UH I DUNNO HOW THAT WORKS THEN ONLY IN ENGLISH I THINK UH DOES YOUR UH DOES IT LIE IN THE CENTRE OF THE ROOM AND CAN YOU SCREAM FROM WHEREVER YEAH IT'S PROBABLY MY JOB TO FIGURE THAT OUT BUT NO THAT UH ONE TO HAVE IN CHANNEL ONE YEAH THEN TH WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT BUT DO DO WE DO IT IT'S MORE IF WE IF WE DO IT YEAH I DUNNO SO IS IT VERY USABLE THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT AND AND DO YOU HAVE TO SPEAK IN IN LIKE IN A THING OR YEAH IS MAYBE MAYBE IT'S TOO HARD TO UH TO REALISE THAT IT WE HAVE SHORT TIME TO TO PUT IT ON THE MARKET SO THAT YEAH I DUNNO OKAY MM YEAH WELL WE HAVE TO DO A LOT OF TESTING BEFORE WE CAN DO THAT YEAH I THINK SO WE MAKE UH MAKE UH WE CAN MAKE TH TH THE NEW REMOTE CONTROL VERY FLASHY YEAH AND UH AND UH IT'S IN UH INDEED UH THE LANGUAGES ARE A DIFFICULT THING UH BECAUSE WE WE HAVE A LOT OF LANGUAGES I D YEAH YEAH I DON'T THINK IT'S UH USEFUL ENOUGH TO TAKE THE EFFORT TO DESIGN SOMETHING WITH UH SPEECH RECOGNITION AND AND YEAH AND ALSO IF IF YOU HAVE A GOOD SPEECH UH SPEECH RECOGNITION YOU CAN JUST THROW THE UH YEAH I THINK SO YEAH A UH SOMEONE SAYS THAT UH GIVE ME ONE COKE AND THE T. V. TURNS UH TO ONE THE REMOTE AWAY MM HMM MM YEAH IT'S NOT UH YEAH YEAH OKAY WELL YEAH THAT'S THE RIGHT COMMAND AND THEN YOU HAVE TO SAY UH T. V. CHANNEL ONE OR SOMETHING BUT HMM YEAH NOT JUST ONE BUT T. V. ONE OKAY BUT TH THAT BECOMES YOUR F UH UH BECAUSE THAT'S VERY HARD FOR UH SPEECH RECOGNITION WELL I DUNNO YEAH BUT I DON'T THINK IT JUST AIN'T USEFUL ENOUGH MM-HMM SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS SO YOU CAN SEE ON THE UH SO WE HAVE TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT ON OKAY NO SPEECH RECOGNITION DO WE DO WE MAKE UH A LIGHT UNDER THE UNDER THE N UNDER THE NUMBERS AND EVERYTHING YEAH I THINK SO DO IF YOU PRESS SOMETHING IT LIGHTS UP FOR A FEW SECONDS SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT OTHER BUT BUTTONS THERE ARE OKAY YEAH THAT'S GOOD YEP OKAY WE JUST TAKE THAT ONE AND WHAT ELSE WE HAVE ALSO THE ONE IN THE DARK SO UH IT LIGHTS UP WHEN IT'S DARK YEAH BUT IT'S OH TH I THOUGHT WOULD THAT THAT WOULD BE THE SAME I DIDN'T IF YOU PUSH SOMETHING IT IT ALL LIGHTS UP OKAY YEAH YEAH YEAH IT IT MUSTN'T WORK ALL THE TIME YEAH BUT UM YES THAT'S WHAT I MEAN IT UH UH IT HAVE TO WORK ONLY WHEN YOU USE IT SO IF YOU NO IF YOU USE ONE BUTTON IT MUST TURN UH ON FOR TWENTY SECONDS AND THEN IT MUST TURN OFF OR YOU CAN SWITCH IT ON OR SOMETHING OR MAYBE WHEN YOU YEAH IT LIGHTS UP ALL YEAH THAT'S RIGHT YOU HAVE TO YEAH THAT'S RIGHT THAT'S WHAT I SAID OKAY YEAH IT'S THE SAME AS THE TELEPHONE D YEAH ALRIGHT YEAH YEAH AND DO WE USE A A UH WHAT'S IT CALLED LIKE A IMAC IF YOU CAN LOOK THROUGH IT OR JUST A NORMAL REMOTE CONTROL MAYBE JUST AS AN OPTION W LIKE WE DISCUSSED LIKE IPOD MM MAYBE IT'S A GOOD IDEA DIFFERENT COLOURS UH MAYBE USE EVEN DIFFERENT FONTS YEAH OH YEAH LIKE UH PHONES DIFFERENT COLOURS OKAY SO Y YOU JUST MAKE IT TH THROUGH YOU LOOK THROUGH IT HMM A SEE THROUGH MM THAT'S COOL YEAH UH AS AN OPTION MAYBE OKAY AND SO THE BUTTONS WE HAVE THIS IS YEAH THIS IS NORMAL WE PUT IN THE THE SIMPLE BUTTONS ON THE TOP AND PROBABLY THE THE THE MORE COMPLICATED BUTTONS DOWN THERE IT'S THE STANDARD YEAH UH BUT YOU HAVE YOU HAD A LOT OF DIFFERENT BUTTONS YEAH WE BUT WE DON'T WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY COMPLICATED BUTTONS HMM YEAH MAYBE YOU HAVE YOU HAVE TO UH WHEN YOU USE TELETEC TELETEXT YOU CAN PRESS A GREEN OR A RED BUTTON TO GO TO THE NEXT ONE OR TO GO TO THE PREVIOUS ONE YEAH OKAY BUT YEAH WELL W I THINK THE BUTTONS ARE VERY EASY WITH JUST UH STANDARD BUTTONS WE JUST HAVE SO LITTLE O BUT MAYBE YOU CAN PUT UM THE G THE OPTIONS OF TELETEXT ON THE SECOND LEVEL OF THE REMOTE CONTROL NO I DON'T NEED DON'T NEED UH TELETEXT OPTIONS ARE ONLY FOUR BUTTONS OR SOMETHING BECAUSE YOU NE ALMOST NEVER USE IT YEAH BUT YOUNGER PEOPLE I THINK UM MORE OFTEN USE THE INTERNET AND ELDERLY PEOPLE OFTEN USE TELETEXT YEAH THAT'S RIGHT SO UH I USE TELETEXT AS WELL NO I USE TE TELETEXT EVERY DAY I THINK HMM OKAY YEAH FOR ME TOO IT IS SO WE JUST KEEP IT ONE LEVEL THEN YEAH YEAH ONE LEVEL OKAY MM AND I THINK UH 'CAUSE UM WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY BUTTONS I THINK THE DESIGN IS MOST IMPORTANT YEAH YOU CAN D UH INTEGRATE THE BUTTONS IN THE DESIGN VERY MUCH YEAH 'CAUSE SIMPLE BUTTONS IF YOU PUT ONE ABOVE IT IT'S CLEAR OKAY OKAY SO THAT'S IT FOR TODA FOR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LUNCH LUNCH BREAK UM HOW LONG IS LUNCH BREAK SO YEAH YOU KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO THIS IS UH THIS IS IT YOU GET YOUR MEAL AND EVERYTHING SO TRENDWATCHING OKAY YEAH THAT'S FINE YO SO WE'RE FINISHED FOR T FOR THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME LUNCH OKAY BYE YEAH YEAH MM UH