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OKAY AND DON'T FORGET THE OH YEAH UM SO HI EVERYONE THANKS FOR COMING TO THIS MEETING UM WELL AS YOU ALL KNOW THE TOPIC OF THIS MORNING'S MEETING IS UH THE FACT THAT WE'RE MOVING AND WE ARE GOING TO GET MORE SPACE SO THAT'S A VERY GOOD PIECE OF NEWS UH BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO FIND OUT HOW WE USE THIS SPACE SO UM IF YOU WANT I'LL JUST GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT'S HAPPENING AND THEN WE CAN UH TALK ABOUT WELL ARRANGING THESE NEW UH THE NEW OFFICE SPACE SO UM IN CASE YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE THE DOCUMENTS UH LET ME JUST UH SHOW YOU VERY BRIEFLY THE THE CONFIGURATION OF THE THE SPACE SO UM WELL THERE IS NOTHING MUCH TO SAY WELL YOU KNOW HOW MANY OF US ARE ARE PRESENT AND YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE UM A BIT TIGHT ACTUALLY IN OUR PRESENT LOCATION UH THAT'S WHY ACTUALLY THE UNIVERSITY FINALLY UM ALLOCATED US THIS UH THIS PART OF UH THE UNIMAIL BUILDING SO IT'S AT THE SIXTH FLOOR AND IT'S UH SORT OF CONTIGUOUS ROOMS AS YOU YOU CAN ALL SEE FROM UH FROM HERE UM SO THE THE THE ONE P. TWO P. THREE P. MEANS THE THE NUMBER OF PERSONS AS YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE SEVERAL CORRIDOR UM WITH A NUMBER OF UH OF UH OF ROOMS OF ONE PERSON ROOMS TWO PERSON ROOM AND AND THREE PERSON ROOMS UM ACTUALLY I THINK AGNES DID THIS NICE DRAWING SO SHE EVEN PUT THE THE VIEW SO WE HAVE THE OLD TOWN ON ONE SIDE AND THE MOUNTAINS ON THE OTHER TWO SIDES UH WE HAVE SOME BATHROOMS FOR US UH AND A COURTYARD WHICH ACTUALLY MEANS A SORT OF UH SHAFT BECAUSE UH THE COURT IS UH DOWN AT UH THE FIRST FLOOR ANDRE JUST YEAH JUST A A CLARIFICATION QUESTION ARE THEY NUMBER OF PEOPLE PER ROOM INDICATED STRICT OR CAN WE PLAY AROUND WITH I MEAN IF THERE ARE TWO PEOPLE IS IT REALLY THAT YOU CAN'T PUT THREE OR UH TWO AND A HALF OR UH HOW HOW WAS IT CALCULATED WELL IT'S A BIT DIFFICULT TO SAY BECAUSE UM IN FACT WE HAVE SOME CONSTRAINTS IN TERMS OF FURNITURE UH THEY ARE HERE 'KAY SO UM WELL YOUR YOUR PERSON YOUR YOUR QUESTION ACTUALLY IS ANSWERED MAYBE BY THE THIRD ITEM SO EACH PERSON SHOULD GET UM WELL IT'S A SORT OF DESK IT'S MADE OF TWO PIECES AND IT LOOKS LIKE A CORNER WITH OF COURSE A CHAIR UH A FILING CABINET THAT GOES UNDER THE DESK UH AND WELL WE CAN PUT HANGING SHELVES OVER THE THE DESKS SO I'M NOT REALLY SURE IT'S POSSIBLE TO GET THREE UM THREE DESKS IN A TWO PERSON OFFICE BUT UM WE COULD TRY MM-HMM WHAT'S WHAT SHOULD BE SAID HERE I DON'T KNOW IF WELL YOU I I WILL MAYBE DISTRIBUTE NOW DOCUMENTS IF YOU DON'T HAVE THEM MAYBE IT'S EASIER DO YOU NEED SOMETHING MARTIN I HAVE EVERYTHING UM I CAN KEEP THIS FOR YOU OKAY SO UH SO IT'S IT'S YEAH YOU HAVE A COPY SUSAN I HAVE A COPY YEAH YOU TOO DAVID I THINK MM-HMM SO IN FACT THERE ARE MORE PLACES THAN PEOPLE SO WE WON'T BE THAT CONSTRAINED UH AS YOU KNOW SOME OF US AND SOME OF YOU HERE ACTUALLY MARTIN AND DAVID ARE PART TIME SO IT IT'S FOR THE MOMENT QUITE COMFORTABLE NORMALLY WE SHOULD EVEN GET AN EXTRA UH AN EXTRA PLACE FOR YOU KNOW TEMPORARY PEOPLE COMING TO WORK ON UH ON PROJECTS ARE YOU SURE OF THAT UH YEAH I UH YEAH I COUNTED SO WE HAVE UM FIFTEEN PERS PHYSICAL PERSONS AND ABOUT UH SIXTEEN MM-HMM I THINK UH PERSONS OH ACTUALLY EIGHTEEN PERSONS IN THE OFFICES TWO SIX SEVEN EIGHT NINE TEN ELEVEN TWELVE THIRTEEN FOURTEEN FIFTEEN SIXTEEN SEVENTEEN EIGHTEEN YEAH BUT COUNTING THE REA THE THE READING ROOM EXACTLY IT SO ONE OF THE ISSUES UH HERE IT'S PROBABLY NOT ON THE SLIDES IS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE UH UNLIKE WHAT HAD UNTIL NOW A LOUNGE OR READING ROOM UH IN ONE OF THE THE OFFICES MM-HMM SO IN ONE OF THE ROOMS DO WE REALLY NEED THAT UM I THINK QUITE A LOT OF PEOPLE E EXPRESSED THE NEED FOR THAT SO IF WE COULD DO IT THEN I THINK IT WOULD BE MUCH NICER UM LET ME ALSO UH ST SAY SOMETHING YEP AND SUSAN DON'T FORGET THE TIME WE SPEND TO FOR DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT ROOM SO YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO VALORIZE THIS IF POSSIBLE OKAY YEAH I I THINK SO BUT I STILL AGREE WITH YOU THAT THE B THE WE ARE NOT SO WE ARE NOT SO LARGE AS FAR AS SPACE IS CONCERNED YEAH UH BECAUSE FIFTEEN PEOPLE TO PUT IN THERE EIGHTEEN POSITIONS MM-HMM SO UH TO THE BEST UH IF YOU TAKE UH TWO PEOPLE ROOM FOR THE READING ROOM THEN YOU HAVE UH SIXTEEN PLACES WELL SIXTEEN SLOTS FOR FIFTEEN PEOPLE MM SO IT'S STILL SHOULD BE FEASIBLE YEAH THAT THAT ALSO MEANS THAT THE GROWTH WILL BE ZERO THAT'S YEAH I THINK THAT'S QUITE IMPORTANT TO MANAGE SOME SPACE MAYBE WE CAN THINK OF YEAH SOME TWO OR THREE YEAH FOR VISITING PEOPLE VISITING VISITI VISITING RESEARCHERS STUDENTS COMING FOR EXCHANGE STUDENTS ET CETERA CORRECT YEAH MM-HMM OKAY SO LET ME FINISH WITH THE THE CONSTRAINTS WHICH ARE ALMOST DONE SO WE ALSO NEED TO TO FIND THE A SPOT FOR THE PHOTOCOPIER THE FAX MACHINE AND THE PRINTER THE FAX YOU KNOW IS VERY SMALL BUT UM THE PHOTOCOPIER IS QUITE HUGE AND THE PRINTER IS UH WELL AB THIS SIZE UM OKAY THE OFFICES COMES WITH WHITE BOARDS NOT VERY UH VERY IMPORTANT UH THE FURNITURE THAT W EACH EACH PERSON HAS AND UH YOU HAVE A LIST OF PEOPLE SO THE THING UH YOU YOU OUGHT TO KNOW IS THAT WE'RE NOT THE ONLY ONES THAT W WE'RE THIN THAT THAT ARE THINKING ABOUT UH FOR WELL ABOUT PUTTING PEOPLE I IN THESE ROOMS UM THERE IS ANOTHER GROUP THAT IS ALSO HAVING DISCUSSIONS SO THE IDEA IS THAT TODAY WE'LL JUST TRY TO F START SEEING THE MAIN CONSTRAINTS AND THEN YOU HAVE TIME TO TO GO AND THINK ABOUT IT UH ASK THE PEOPLE YOU KNOW YOUR ASSISTANTS FOR INSTANCE AND AT THE NEXT MEETING WE'LL TRY TO TO COME WITH ONE SOLUTION UH THE OTHER GROUP WILL ALSO PROPOSE A SOLUTION AND THEN THERE WILL BE ANOTHER NEGOTIATION SO W AND IF WE DON'T GET THIS SPACE THEN WHAT HAPPENS UH IF I IF WE DON'T GET THESE THESE YEAH UM WELL BASICALLY THEY ARE PROMISED TO US SO UH DO DO YOU THINK THERE ARE CHANCES THAT THEY TAKE FROM US ONE OF THE ROOMS OR UH WE J WE STAY WHERE WE ARE OKAY YEAH I I I THINK IT'S UH UH YEAH NO THE THE THE CHANCES MIGHT BE THAT THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE TO PUT IN THAT SPACE YEAH I YEAH THAT'S ONE OF THE THE PROBLEMS I THINK MAYBE WE SHOULD TAKE THIS INTO ACCOUNT AND MAYBE THINK OF SOME OF THE BIGGER ROOMS WITH FOUR PEOPLE ONE BEING TEMPORARY OR OR PART TIME UM OKAY SO MAYBE WE COULD TRY TO TO SEE NOW WHAT WOULD BE THE MAIN OPTIONS SAY THE GENERAL UH WELL ARRANGEMENT OPTIONS DO YOU THINK THAT WE SHOULD PUT PEOPLE SAY ACCORDING TO PROJECTS FOR INSTANCE IN IN THE TABLE THAT UM THAT WE HAVE UH WE ALSO HAVE THE UH UH THE P THE MAIN PROJECTS ON WHICH THE PEOPLE ARE WORKING SO HOW YEAH ANDRE SORRY FOR INTERRUPTING BUT UH ONE AGAIN CLARIFICATION QUESTION WHAT IS THE REAL MARGIN OF MANOEUVRE THAT WE HAVE FOR THESE DISCUSSIONS MM-HMM BECAUSE UH AT LEAST WE ARE HALF PER CENT UH FIFTY PER CENT OF FROM E. P. F. L. AND UH SOMETIMES YOU HAVE MEETINGS WHERE W Y THE THE DECISION IS ALREADY TAKEN SO UH UM YOU CAN SPEND QUITE A LOT OF TIME DISCUSSING THINGS SO WHAT WHAT WILL BE THE IMPACT OF WHAT WE WILL COME OUT COME UP WITH OH ACTUALLY WHAT IS FIXED IS THE N THE NUMBER OF ROOMS THIS WE CANNOT REALLY CHANGE I MEAN AT LEAST NOT US IT WOULD BE MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO GET ANOTHER ANOTHER ROOM FOR INSTANCE BUT WHAT IS ABSOLUTELY N NOT FIXED IS THE ARRANGEMENT OF THE PEOPLE IN THE ROOMS SO ANOTHER WAY OF A SO BASICALLY WE ARE ALL THE PERMUTATIONS ARE POSSIBLE AT THE MOMENT ANOTHER WAY OF ASKING THE QUESTION IS THERE ANY OTHER GROUP ALREADY WORKING ON UH ON THE HOW THIS SHOULD BE UH SHOULD BE ALLOCATED OR ARE WE THE THE ONE THAT IS SUPPOSED TO DO THE P THE THE P POSITION FOR IT UM WELL WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR IS A SOLUTION THAT SUITS EVERYONE AND THAT MAKES THE MAXIMUM OF PEOPLE HAPPY SO UH THE OTHER GROUP IS UH I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO SEE THEM AS COMPETITORS BUT THEY ARE JUST TRYING TO TO FIND ANOTHER LOCAL OPTIMUM OR L UH BUT WHA WHY WHY DON'T THEY HAVE ANY REPRESENTATIVE HERE I MEAN YEAH WHY DIDN'T WE HAVE A MEETING TOGETHER YEAH WHY DO WE DO IT SEPARATELY UH THEY HAVE ANOTHER GROUP AND THEN UH UH UH ANDRE AND AGNES WILL DISCUSS ABOUT IT WITH UH YOU ARE THE REP REPRESENTATIVE OF THIS GROUP ACTUALLY YEAH YEAH UH UH WE YEAH I I THINK THAT'S YEAH THERE IS NO REAL COMPETITION BETWEEN THE TWO BUT WE'LL JUST TRY TO FIND AT LEAST TWO SOLUTIONS AND SEE HOW HOW CLOSE THEY ARE ACTUALLY IT'S IT'S I THINK WELL THE M THE PEOPLE WHO WHO DECIDED THIS THOUGHT IT WAS THE BEST SOLUTION TO MM WELL YOU KNOW FIND TWO TWO KINDS OF OPINIONS YEAH OKAY WELL WE COULD HAVE BEEN EIGHT H SITTING AROUND HERE AND AND TALKING BUT I THINK IT'S IT'S MORE DIFFICULT NO BUT YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S A STANDARD THING IT'S SUPPOSE THAT SOMEBODY FOR SOME STRANGE REASONS WANT TO BE IN THE CORNER AND WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT WE'LL PUT THEM PUT HER OR HIM SOMEWHERE ELSE THEN WE WILL DO PLENTY OF WORK FOR NOTHING BECAUSE WE'LL NOT HAVE THIS CONSTRAINT MM-HMM WE'LL NOT BE AWARE OF THIS CONSTRAINT WELL EXACTLY I THINK SO SO TODAY THE GOAL IS NOT TO TO FIND THE SOLUTION TODAY OH OKAY BUT TO SET SOME CONSTRAINTS AND THEN GO AND SEE THE PEOPLE AND FIND OUT IF THEY HAVE ANY PREFERENCES OKAY OBVIOUSLY WE WON'T BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE ALL THE THE PREFERENCES BUT AT LEAST WE'LL FIND THE MOST UH THE MOST IMPORTANT ONES WELL CERTAINLY WE HAVE TO ASK UH PIERRETTE AND UH AND MAGGIE SINCE THEY'RE NOT HERE P S I THINK BECAUSE THEY ALSO HAVE A LOT OF STUDENTS THAT THEY HAVE TO SEE AS WE DO AND SO THAT'S ANOTHER CONSIDERATION TOO MM-HMM YEAH YEAH YEAH I THINK SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK WE KNOW THAT THEY HAVE STUDENTS WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY IF THEY PREFER FOR INSTANCE TO BE ALONE OR TO WELL TO BE WITH THEIR ASSISTANT OR EVEN WITH ANOTHER PERSON WORKING ON THE PROJECT SO THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN MAYBE YEAH ANOTHER SOLUTION IS TO ASK EVERYONE TO PROVIDE UH AN ARRANGEMENT BUT UH I THINK THAT'S A BIT UH A BIT HARD THEN TO TO WORK OUT UM SO SINCE ALL OF YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE UH WELL OF THE DRAWING I THINK FOR THE NEXT TIME M MAYBE YOU COULD COME WITH A CONCRETE PROPOSAL WITH UH NAMES ON IT BUT LET US TRY TO SEE TODAY WHETHER WE PREFER TO ORGANISE PEOPLE SAY BY PROJECTS OR JUST PROFESSOR AND ASSISTANT SO WHAT WOULD BE F SAY FIRST YOUR PREFERENCES SINCE LET'S LET'S START WITH US MAYBE TODAY UM WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT IT WOULD YOU PREFER TO BE ALONE WOULD YOU PREFER TO BE WITH YOUR ASSISTANT YOU WHO ARE PART TIME DO YOU THINK YOU CAN COME HERE ON A VERY W WELL REGULAR SCHEDULE OR IS IT PART TIME BUT VARIABLE DURING THE WEEK HMM YEAH UH OKAY UH ME PERSONALLY I WOULD LIKE TO TO TO SHARE THE OTHER PEOPL N UH THE ROOM WITH ASSISTANTS AS WHEN YOU HAVE PROBLEMS OF NORMAL LIFE LIKE UH THE PRINTER DOESN'T WORK UH I DON'T WANT TO ASK THIS TO MY SUPERVISOR SO IT'S BETTER TO TO BE WITH A WITH AN ASSISTANT TO SHARE THE ROOM UH-HUH AND SINCE YOU'RE COMING ON THE UH HALF TIME MM-HMM DO YOU THINK YOU WILL BE ABLE TO GROUP YOUR PRESENCE HERE SAY MONDAY TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY MORNING OR IS IT GOING TO BE M MUCH MORE RANDOM WHAT UH I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO SHARE UH T TO HA TO SHARE THE SAME DESK OKAY UH I STILL WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MY DRAWERS AND THESE THINGS YEAH I THINK SO TOO UM SO MARTIN YOU ARE ALSO UH HALF TIME AND WELL THE THIRD PERSON IS GISELLA I THINK IT'S QUITE CLEAR THAT MM EACH PERSON SHOULD HAVE THEIR OWN DESK AND YEAH I AGREE WITH THAT THAT'S IT'S NO NO WAY WE WE COULD PUT TWO PERSONS AT THE SAME DESK WHE WHE WHERE PART TIME IS IMPORTANT IS THAT IT'S N AN OVERLO LOAD ON A ROOM SO UM FOR SURE IF YOU HAVE A PART TIME PERSON IT REDUCES THE THE RANGES OF TIME WHERE TOO MANY PEOPLE IN THE ROOM YEAH I THINK GROUPING AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED I PROBABLY MIGHT BE ABLE TO HAVE A KIND OF A REGULAR PRESENCE HERE UM THE UH THE THING THAT F IN MY CASE HAS TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT IS THAT I WILL HAVE A LOT OF PHONE CALLS SO I'LL BE TALKING O O O OVER THE PHONE ALL THE TIME MM-HMM OH GREAT SO THAT'S NOT NECESSARY WELL IT DEPENDS ON I I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST SHARING A A AN OFFICE WITH SOMEBODY I D ALREADY DID IT BEFORE SO AND IT WAS PERFECTLY FINE IT JUST HAS TO BE SOMEBODY WHO CAN WORK WHILE SOMEBODY ELSE IS HAVING PHONE CALLS IN THE IN THE ROOM WHICH IS VERY D MUCH DEPENDENT ON PEOPLE SOME PEOPLE ARE NOT DISTURB AT ALL BY THIS MM-HMM SOME PEOPLE JUST CAN'T WORK ARE YOU DISTURBED BY THE PHONE CALLS OF OTHER PEOPLE I'M NOT OKAY BUT UH AND UH WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN BUT IT UH IT WILL NOT BE SO HEAVY HERE UH AT ISSCO IS VISITORS SO THAT I WILL HAVE MORE AT E. P. F. L. UH TYPICALLY STUDENTS COMING IN UM OR ASKING FOR THINGS MM-HMM AS I'M NOT TEACHING HERE I'M TEACHING AT E. P. F. L. THIS SHOULD SHOULDN'T BE A SUCH A BIG LOAD SO FOR ME IT IT WILL BE ESSENTIALLY I WILL NOT BE I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BE SILENT IN THE ROOM MM-HMM BECAUSE I WILL BE COMMUNICATING ALSO THROUGH VOCAL MEANS SO MM-HMM YE MM BEFORE UM TALKING MORE ABOUT INDIVIDUAL PREFERENCES IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IN THE UH FACULTY OF LAW FOR EXAMPLE THAT THEY ACTUALLY SPLIT ROOMS AND SO WE WOULD TAKE UH UH ONE OF THE TWO PEOPLE ROOMS AND SPLIT IT HMM AND YOU WOULD SEE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE THE SAME SIZE OFFICE BUT THAT WOULD GIVE THE PRIVACY YEAH MM-HMM UM INSOFAR AS IN JUST ABOUT EVERY OTHER FACULTY IN THE BUILDING EVERY PROFESSOR HAS THEIR OWN OFFICE MM-HMM AND IT'S IT'S REALLY IT GOES A BIT FAR THAT UH WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS UH ALL THIS SHARING UH HMM SO ONE OPTION AND THAT BUT THAT WE WOULD NEED TO ASK ABOUT IF WE COULD UH SPLIT ONE OF THE ROOMS UH DO YOU GO FOR BOXES FOR INSTANCE IN THE IN THE BIGGER ROOMS WHERE YEAH YOU KNOW LIKE UH CUBICLES LIKE CUBICLES YEAH THAT DOESN'T REALLY SOLVE IT UH HMM I MEAN THERE'S THERE'S REALLY A DIFFERENCE TO HAVING TO HAVE YOUR OWN YEAH YOU MEAN YOU REALLY WANT TO HAVE WALLS MM-HMM AND SOMETIMES YOU HAVE UH YOU NEED TO HAVE PRIVATE UH DISCUSSIONS WITH SOMEBODY OR WHATEVER SO FOUR WALLS YEAH YEAH SURE SURE YEAH I I I WILL TRY TO FIND OUT WHETHER WE CAN SEPARATE I THINK FOR THE MOMENT THE ANSWER AT LEAST IS NO BECAUSE UM IT'S NOT ONLY WELL MAKING A WALL BUT ALSO B MM MAKING A NEW DOOR SO IT'S QUITE A LOT OF UH OF WORK BUT UH I WILL TRY TO FIND THIS OUT FOR THE NEXT TIME UM SO AT LEAST FOR THE MOMENT AS YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE UH I CAN SHOW THEM HERE ON THE SCREEN SO THERE ARE THESE TWO ROOMS ON THE LEFT THAT UH ACCOMMODATE ONE PERSON MM-HMM SO AT LEAST SOME OF THE PROFESSORS SINCE YOU ARE FOUR UH COULD COULD GO UH WELL COULD TAKE THESE UH THESE ROOMS YEAH AND QUITE A LOT OF ROOMS WITH TWO PERSONS UH HOW DO YOU FEEL SUSAN ABOUT THE PROFESSOR SHARING THE ROOM WITH HER ASSISTANTS OR THE ONE WHICH IS THE MOST INVOLVED IN IN THE TEACHING WELL I I THINK IT'S UH REALLY A MATTER OF PERSONAL PREFERENCE AS YOU KNOW UM I PREFER TO HAVE UH MY OWN OFFICE HMM HMM UM I ALSO HAVE UH A LOT OF PHONE CALLS AND Y YOU KNOW HAVE TO SEE PEOPLE AND WITH THE OTHER WORK THAT I'M DOING WITH THE RECTORATE UH THAT IS REALLY CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION THAT I'M TREATING MM-HMM YEAH SO I THAT I HAVE TO BE REALLY CAREFUL ABOUT TOO YEAH BUT IT'S A PERSONAL PREFERENCE UH INSOFAR AS WHAT WE'VE HAD UP UNTIL NOW BOTH MAGGIE AND PIERRETTE HAVE BEEN HAPPY TO SHARE WITH OTHERS SO I MEAN I THINK THAT WE SHOULD STILL CHECK WITH THEM MM-HMM I FULLY AGREE WITH THAT THAT'S UH IT'S MUCH EASIER TO ME TO UH TO FORESEE HAVING TWO PEOPLE OF THE SAME POSITION SHARING A ROOM THAN UH WELL NOT SHARING WITH EACH OTHER THEY EACH SHARE WITH AN ASSISTANT OH SHARING WITH THEIR STUDENTS YEAH OH SORRY BECAUSE BUT THAT THAT'S UH IT'S IT'S TRICKY BECAUSE OF CONFIDENTIALITY REASONS AS YOU SAID YEAH YEAH YOU YOU YOU ARE DISCUSSING A BUDGET ON THE ON THE PROJECT YOU OVER THE PHONE TYPICALLY YOU DON'T NECESSARY WANT TO HAVE SOMEBODY WHO WILL BE DEPENDENT ON THAT BUDGET BEING PART OF THE DISCUSSION SO PAID ON THAT MM-HMM MM-HMM YEAH THAT'S UM THAT'S TRUE UM OKAY UM MAYBE WE COULD S LOOK A BIT AT THE PROJECTS DO YOU THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO PUT TOGETHER IN THE SAME ROOM AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE PEOPLE FROM THE SAME PROJECT NO SINCE THEY TALK QUITE A LOT OF TO EACH OTHER NO BECAUSE PRO PROJECT DOESN'T LAST IN TIME THEY WILL CHANGE MM-HMM THAT'S WHAT THE ONLY THING THAT WILL NOT OR THAT WILL CHANGE ONLY PROGRESSIVELY IN TIME IS THE STATUS OF THE PEOPLE OKAY MM WELL YEAH AND SOME OF THE P. H. D. STUDENTS WILL HOPEFULLY FINISH THEIR P. H. D. AT SOME POINT YEAH THEY WILL PROMOTE THAT BUT STILL TH SOME THINGS WELL YEAH MM-HMM YEAH AND ALSO SOME OF OUR THE PEOPLE MENTIONED HERE ARE WORKING ON MORE THAN ONE PROJECT TOO YEAH SO FOR EXAMPLE UH MARIANNE DE UH SHE'S ALSO WORKING WITH ME ON THE VIRTUAL CAMPUS PROJECT SO SHE THAT ONE WASN'T MENTIONED MM-HMM UH-HUH BUT I'M NOT SAYING THAT I NECESSARILY WANT TO BE WITH HER IN THE OFFICE OKAY YEAH BUT UH IT'S JUST TO SAY PEOPLE ARE WORKING ON UH SOMETIMES MORE THAN ONE PROJECT UH MM-HMM IF IF IT IF I IF PROJECTS ARE WHAT YOU HAVE IN MIND I THINK THAT UH MEETING ROOM IS THE THE TOOL FOR THAT IF YOU NEED TO HAVE PEOPLE IN A PROJECTS TALKING TOGETHER YEAH YEAH THEY JUST HAVE A MEETING ROOM IF IT'S NOT TOO FAR AWAY THEN THEN IT'S A VERY GOOD GOOD PRACTICE YEP YEAH WELL ACTUALLY SO THE LOUNGE COULD SERVE AS SOME KIND OF MEETING ROOM BUT THERE ARE ALSO MORE FORMAL MEETING ROOMS AVAILABLE IN IN THE BUILDING AS WE NOW KNOW YES THAT'S WHY I WAS QUITE RECEPTIVE TO UH SUSAN'S REMARK AT THE BEGINNING IS I WOULDN'T FORMULATE IT IN A SUCH A AN EXTREME WAY AS DO WE REALLY NEED THE LOUNGE BUT UH I WOULD P PROBABLY FORMULATE IT IN THE WAY THAT UH MM-HMM DO WE WANT TO HAVE ONLY A LOUNGE OR S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE USED ONLY AS A READING ROOM BECAUSE BECAUSE MEETING ROOMS TO ME ARE VERY IMPORTANT TOOLS TO DO UH COLLABORATIVE WORK MM-HMM BUT ON THE OTHER HAND WE ALSO HAVE TO RELAX SO THAT'S SO I THINK WE NEED A YEAH AND AND I THINK ALSO WE NEED A SEPARATE DISCUSSION ON THE FURNISHING OF THE LOUNGE WHICH IS A WHOLE OTHER TOPIC YES WELL YEAH WE'LL SKIP THAT FOR NOW YES NO I D UM THE LOUNGE OKAY BUT I THINK WE NEED TO ALSO SEE IT AS A OVERFLOW PLACE WHEN WE HAVE UM UH VISITORS FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME YEAH SO THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A PLACE TO WORK YEAH 'CAUSE THAT'S REALLY MY ONE OF MY WORRIES WITH THE PLAN THAT WE HAVE HERE IS THAT IT'S IT PR PROVIDES NO POSSIBLE POSSIBILITIES OF EXPANSION UH-HUH AND THIS WILL HAPPEN UM I MEAN YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T PREVENT HAVING VISITORS AND YOU SHOULDN'T NO YOU WANT TO HAVE VISITORS YEAH YEAH FOR THE MOMENT ACTUALLY I THINK ONLY ONE SLOT WOULD BE FULLY FREE YEAH UH THAT IS YEAH WHICH FOR FOR FIFTEEN PEOPLE IT'S NOT ENOUGH YEAH THAT MEANS ONE VISITOR AT A TIME I MEAN UH YEAH OR ONE INTERN YEAH IT'S WE HAVE WE HAVE FOUR PROFESSORS HERE AND AND AND TWO RESEARCHERS YEAH THAT'S MM-HMM IT'S IT'S FUNNY THAT UH WE MOVE TO ANOTHER BUILDING BECAUSE WE RUN OUT OF UH SPACE AND WE WILL HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM MM-HMM MM YES BUT WE HAVE MORE SPACE HERE THAN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE SO IT'S AT LEAST SOME AH OKAY YEAH IT'S ALREADY IN PROGRESS IT'S BAD IT'S BAD AND YOU'RE YOU'RE WORKING UH I THINK YEAH W OKAY SO ONE OF THE THINGS I HAVE TO DO FOR THE NEXT TIME IS FIN FIND OUT ABOUT THE SEPARATIONS BETWEEN ROOMS AND BECAUSE THIS IS REALLY RELATED WITH SECURITY UH REGULATION AS WELL I MEAN YOU CAN'T JUST PUT WALLS IN IN ROOMS WITHOUT ANY SPECIFIC AUTHORIS YEAH YEAH I THINK IT'S QUITE A HEAVY TRANSFORMATION OF THE BUILDING UH IT'S NOT NECESSARY HEAVY IN TERMS OF WORK IT'S HEAVY IN TERMS OF ADMINISTRATIVE AUTHORISATION MM-HMM MM-HMM AND OKAY I'LL TRY TO FIND OUT AT LEAST AT E. P. F. L. AND THE OTHER QUESTION IS CAN WE SQUEEZE MAYBE FOUR PEOPLE IN THE UH OR AT LEAST FOUR PLACES IN THE THREE THREE P. ROOM I THINK SO IF YOU ORGANISE THE DESKS IN A IN A INTELLIGENT WAY MM-HMM YEAH HOPEFULLY VISITORS DON'T NEED AS MUCH SAY FILING SPACE OR UM YEAH THEY DON'T HAVE THAT MANY PAPERS YEP YEAH RIGHT THAT'S THE POINT UH OKAY SO THAT'S UH I HAVE TO TO ASK SO YOU DON'T REALLY FEEL UM VERY STRONGLY ATTACHED TO THIS UH GROUPING BY PROJECTS IDEA NO NO MM-HMM NO BECAUSE THEY CAN SHARE THEIR IDEAS ACROSS THE PROJECT YEAH I WOULD SAY UM COFFEE MACHINES ARE THAT MADE FOR THAT YEAH EXACTLY BUT UH USUALLY WHE WHEN NEW ASSISTANTS COME THEY WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THE ROOM WITH SOMEONE THAT KNOWS UH L UH IT'S RELATED WITH THE PROJECT SO HE CAN MM-HMM NO THAT'S THAT'S PROXIMITY DOESN'T PLAY A BIG ROLE THERE MM-HMM WE CAN DISCUSS WITH PEOPLE THAT THE THE SPACE IS VERY SMALL I MEAN ALTOGETHER IT'S YEAH THEY THEY CAN CHANGE MM MM-HMM AND UH YOU DON'T Y YOU DON'T NEED TO DISCUSS ABOUT THE PROJECTS YOU F MORE NEED ABOUT TH TO DISCUSS ABOUT WHERE IS THE PRINTER NO OKAY HOW DO I GET FURNITURE I'M I DON'T HAVE A A PENCIL WHERE IS THE THE BOX WITH THE PENCILS AND SO ON THIS IS NOT PROJECT RELATED MM-HMM MM-HMM NO AND IF YOU LOOK NOW AT THEIR UH THE THE CURRENT DIVISION OF THE OFFICES FOR EXAMPLE UH BRUNO AND AGNES ARE SHARING AN OFFICE AND THEY'RE WORKING ON TOTALLY DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND AND THEY'RE THEY'RE JUST FINE WITH THAT MM-HMM YEAH YEAH I THINK THAT'S THAT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THE THE MAIN THINGS WE'LL HAVE TO ASK IS WHETHER PEOPLE HAVE STRONG PREFERENCES EITHER IN STAYING WITH SOMEONE OR IN UH NOT STAYING UM ARE YOU AWARE F OF ANY STRONG CONSTRAINTS RIGHT NOW WELL THERE THERE WERE BUT THEY SORT OF DISAPPEARED AS OF OCTOBER WHEN THE NO SMOKING RULE CAME IN BECAUSE BEFORE WE WERE GROUPING THE SMOKERS AND NOW THAT THERE'S NO SMOKING UH I GUESS THAT'S NOT VERY IMPORTANT OPTION THOUGH OH YEAH THAT'S TRUE OKAY YEAH THAT'S TRUE SO SMOKING IS NOW UM NO LONGER A CONSTRAINT WELL EXCEPT FOR THAT MAYBE YOU DON'T EVEN WANT ANYBODY SMOKING ON YOUR BALCONY SO YEAH IS IT ALLOWED TO SMOKE INSIDE AN OFFICE IF IT'S A ONE PERSON NO NOT ANY MORE NO NO NO N IT'S IN IN PRINCIPLE IT'S A IT'S A NO SMOKING BUILDING IT'S NON SMOKING CAMPUS YOU CAN SMOKE OUTSIDE MM-HMM SO YOU CAN GO OUTSIDE ONTO THE BALCONY TO SMOKE NOT EVEN IN THE CAFETERIA NOT EVEN IN THE CAFETERIA DOWNSTAIRS NO FULL NO SMOKING BUILDING FOR ALL OF THE SIX THOUSAND STUDENTS YEAH THAT'S THE NEW REGULATION OKAY WOW ON THE ROOF MAYBE UH ON THE BALCONY ACTUALLY YEAH THE BALCONY OKAY YEP YEAH NORMALLY THERE IS THE THERE'S THAT TERRACE BUT ANDRE UH JUST A WOW THERE THERE'S NO PLACE IN INSIDE THE BUILDING NO WOW E. T. P. F. L. IS A C IT'S A NON SMOKING CAMPUS BUT THERE ARE SOME PLACES THA STILL SOME PLACES WHERE SMOKERS CAN SURVIVE YEAH YEAH YEAH BUT ANDRE JUST A COMMENT ABOU ABOUT YOUR YOUR PREVIOUS UH REQUEST YEAH MM-HMM I I DON'T THINK THAT ANYONE WILL PROVIDE YOU INFORMATION SUCH AS WHO DOESN'T WANT TO BE WITH WHOM THAT'S A TYPICAL UH OUTPUT OF EX UH RESEARCH IN EXPERT SYSTEMS THESE ARE THE RULES THAT YOU NEVER GET BUT UH YOU CAN GET THEM THROUGH A PROPOSAL THE OTHER WAY SO YOU PROPOSE A SET UP MM-HMM WHERE PEOPLE ARE WITH OTHER PEOPLES AND THEY WILL FIND POLITICALLY CORRECT WAYS TO TELL YOU THAT UH THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE A VIEW ON THE MOUNTAINS BUT THEY PREFER TO HAVE VIEW ON THE OLD TOWN SO THEY WOULD BE IN THE TOILETS O ON THE TOILETS OR THEY WOULD UM P PREFER TO BE IN ANOTHER ROOM MM-HMM NO WE WE DO HAVE ONE CONSTRAINT THAT'S DIFFICULT WHICH IS UH GISELLA BECAUSE WHEN SHE'S THERE SHE'S VERY NOISY YEAH YEAH YEAH SHE'S ON THE PHONE A LOT IT'S JUST IT'S BY YEAH BUT THAT'S A SEC S THAT'S THE ADMIN THAT'S THE ADMIN UH SO IT'S PART OF THE WORK IT'S BY NAT UH BY THE NATURE OF HER WORK THAT UH A LOT OF IT IS COMMUNICATION YEAH MM-HMM YES MARTIN SAID ALSO FOR HIM AND YEAH ESPECIALLY FOR HER YEAH YEP YEAH THE IN SHE'S THE INTERFACE AND THAT THAT'S A PROBLEM YOU'RE RIGHT SO MM-HMM BECAUSE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A ONE PERSON WE D WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ONE PERSON ROOMS FOR UH ACCOMMODATING THE UH THE ADMIN PLACE YEP AND UH IF YOU PUT TWO PERSON PERSONS OR THREE PERSONS FOR THE ADMIN SPACE WHO WHO WHO ELSE WOULD YOU PUT IN THERE MM-HMM BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY ASSISTANT MANAGER OR WE DON'T HAVE WE HAVE ONLY ONE HALF PART HALF TIME UH ADMIN AND NO OTHER NON RESEARCHER POSITIONS IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN AND THIS IS REALLY A PIECE OF A PROBLEM YEP MAYBE YOU COULD PUT SOME VISITORS BUT UM YEAH YEAH I THINK YEAH I KNOW IT'S NOT VERY UH REALISTIC IN A IN A IN AN ADMIN ROOM BUT UH MM-HMM I THINK PUTTING GISELLA WITH THE OTHER ADMIN OF THE SCHOOL IS NOT AN OPTION BECAUSE WE WEREN'T OFFERED YEAH I THINK THAT'S A EXCELLENT IDEA IT WOULD BE NICE BUT UH OKAY I'LL TRY TO FIND OUT BUT UH WHY DON'T WE ASK ABOUT THAT YEAH BECAUSE YOU CAN'T PUT A RESEARCHER THERE THAT'S JUST EITHER YOU LOSE ONE POSITION OR YOU FIND ANOTHER ADMIN OR ASSISTANT MANAGER I TH YEAH I MEAN THERE IS CERTAINLY ENOUGH SPACE UH DOWN THE HALL WI IF ALL OF THOSE UH UH OFFICES THAT ARE WHERE HALF OF THEM ARE ALSO HALF TIME AND THEY'RE VERY UNDER USED YEAH SO UM OKAY WE'LL TRY BUT ALL THESE YEAH ARE SAY SORT OF DIFFICULT QUESTIONS BECAUSE THEY INVOLVE CHANGING ALSO THE OFFICES OF THE SCHOOL AND YEP YOU KNOW PEOPLE JUST DON'T WANNA CHANGE IN GENERAL UM LET'S SEE MAYBE WE CAN FIND SOME TEMPORARY WELL AT LEAST A PROPOSAL FOR GISELLA SO SINCE THE ONE PERSON ROOMS ARE QUITE WELL SORT OF UM DESIRED BY A LOT OF PEOPLE SHE SHOULD PROBABLY NO Y YEAH NO THAT'S NOT SURE THAT'S NOT SURE UH THE THERE ARE TO ME THERE ARE TWO OPTIONS POSSIBLE IS EITHER YOU WE CAN TAKE ONE OF THE ONE PERSON ROOMS FOR THE ADMIN OKAY BECAUSE SOME OF TYPICALLY THE PROFESSORS HAVE GOOD REASONS FOR SHARING MM-HMM MM-HMM SHARING EITHER WITH A COLLEAGUE OR SHARING UH WITH SOME OF THEIR UH ONE OF THEIR P. H. D. STUDENTS IN THAT CASE IT'S IT'S REALISTIC THEN WE COULD VERY VERY SIMPLY UH ALLOCATE THE ONE PERS ONE OF THE ONE PERSON ROOMS FOR THE ADMIN AND THAT WOULD SOLVE THE PROBLEM THE OTHER THING IS TO TAKE A TWO PERSON ROOM FOR THE ADMIN THAT COULD BE THE ONE UH CLOSE TO THE UH CLOSE TO THE HERE IN THE CENTRE SO UH THE YEAH MM-HMM UH THE THE MIDDLE ONE HERE BUT THA NO NO NO THE OTHER ONE THE THE ONE OP YEAH HERE THIS ONE OKAY THIS ONE OKAY BUT THEN UH THAT THE THE QUESTION OF WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE SECOND POSITION THERE REMAINS FULLY OPEN MM-HMM SO I WOULD BE I WOULD BE MORE OF THE OPINION TO TO SEE WHETHER IT'S IT'S SO EVIDENT THAT WELL LET'S SAY THE AT LEAST THE TWO FULL FULL TIME PROFESSORS THAT ARE HERE ON THE LIST WE HAVE ONE HERE BUT UH MAGGIE IS IS NOT PRESENT YEAH MM-HMM IF THEY REALLY AND PIERRETTE TOO YEAH AND PIERRETTE YEAH IF IF IF BECAUSE OF PERSONAL PREFERENCES THEY WOULD BE HAPPY WITH A TWO PERSON ROOM WHICH MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT BE THE CASE YEAH WELL MM-HMM I MEAN IT'S IT'S CERTAINLY NOT UH SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD IMPOSE BUT WE CAN ASK YEAH MM-HMM YEAH BECAUSE IN THIS CASE YEAH GISELLA COULD TAKE ONE OF THE THE TWO PERSON ROOMS AND THE OTHER PLACE WOULD BE FOR SOME KIND OF VISITOR THAT YEAH BUT THAT'S NOT REALISTIC EITHER I MEAN YOU HAVE YOU HAVE A FORE FOREIGN RESEARCHER COMING VISITING YOU AND YOU WILL PUT PUT HIM IN THE ADMIN OFFICE I OR AH OKAY UH UH YOU'LL NOT DO THAT I MEAN UH MAYBE YOU CAN DO THAT WITH AN EXCHANGE STUDENT THAT'S YEAH WITH WITH YOUNGER PEOPLE YEAH YEAH OR AN INTERN BUT YOU CAN'T TAKE A SENIOR VISITOR AND UH HIM IN THE IN THE SECRETARY MM-HMM NO SO WE WE INVITE INVITE AND THEN WE SAY OKAY YOU CAN SIT WITH GISELLA UH YOU'RE HERE YEAH OKAY OKAY SO THIS SETS A BIT THE STAGE FOR UH FOR GISELLA THEN UH YEAH WE'LL TRY TO TO FIND OUT UM ACTUALLY YEAH MAYBE WE SHOULD REMIND THAT QUITE A LOT OF PROFESSORS AT THE AT THE SCHOOL ACTUALLY SHARE THEIR OFFICE WITH THEIR ASSISTANT SO B IT LOOKS LIKE SORT OF AN IMPLICIT TRADITION UM MAYBE NOT TO BE FOLLOWED AS SUSAN SAID P EXCEPT FOR IN EVERY OTHER FACULTY OKAY YEAH IS THAT SO YES IT IS SO OH EVERY OTHER FACULTY AS FAR AS I HAVE SEEN THEIR OFFICES AND THE PEOPLE THAT I KNOW AND THAT'S IN UM IN LAW MM-HMM YEAH UH SOCIO ECONOMICS UH OKAY OKAY IT'S A THEY ALL HAVE THEIR OWN OFFICE I MEAN IN IN THE IN THE LAW FACULTY THEY'RE AT BEST THERE HALF TIME NO NO THAT'S IT AS WE SAID IT'S IT'S REALLY A MATTER OF PERSONAL PREFERENCE IT CANNOT BE SOMETHING ELSE MM-HMM IT CANNOT BE IMPOSED FOR SURE YEAH IT'S UH UM OKAY SO I THINK WELL THIS SETS A BIT UH THE STAGE UH COULD WE TRY SO COULD YOU TRY PLEASE TO UH DO YOU WANT AN EXTRA UH PIECE OF PAPER MAYBE TRY TO WELL THINK ON YOUR OWN AND THEN TALK A LITTLE BIT JUST TO THE PEOPLE AROUND YOU JOB AGAIN UH UH UM ANDRE I THINK THAT THE ONLY REALISTIC WAY WE CAN DO IS TO SPEAK FOR OUR FOR OURSELVES I CAN TELL YOU ACCORDING TO WHAT I KNOW NOW WHERE I WOULD LIKE OR WOULD BE READY TO BE MM-HMM BUT I REALLY DON'T SEE HOW I COULD DECIDE FOR UH MAGGIE OR PIERRETTE OR WHOEVER ELSE ON THE LIST THAT THEY SHOULD BE THERE YEAH NO THE POINT WAS TO TRY TO WELL JUST TALK TO THEM TO DAVID OR WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO YEAH B WHY WHY COULDN'T WE DO LIKE COULDN'T WE DO IT LIKE FOR FOR THE THE SET UP OF MEETINGS YOU YOU EVERYONE RECEIVED THAT AND UH SHOULD PROVIDE YEAH I WOULD LIKE TO BE HERE MM-HMM AND THEN YOU WILL HAVE THIS MULTI CONSTRAINT PROBLEM AND UH YOU WORK DURING TWO HOURS AND YOU COME UP WITH THE OPTIMAL SOLUTION YEAH SO W W W WILL YOU ASK PEOPLE JUST FOR THEIR PLACE OR ALSO FOR THE OTHER PEOPLE'S PLACE YEAH I WOULD I WOULD ASK FOR THEIR PLACE I MEAN THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S THE IMPORTANT THING YOU WANT TO KNOW BECAUSE UH-HUH W WHAT ABOU WHAT ABOUT THE THE THE CAFETERIA WELL BUT THAT'S I MEAN WE ARE GOING TO PURCHASE A CAFETERIA WITH A PROJECTOR AND ALL THIS ALTOGETHER OR READING ROOM YEAH UH IT'S A READING ROOM IT'S ALTOGETHER READING ROOM IT'S NOT A CAFETERIA SO IN THE LIVING ROOM BUT THAT THAT'S AN OPEN QUESTION WHETHER IT'S A IT'S A IT'S A IT AT THE ORIGIN IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A F PURE READING ROOM FOR RELAXING UH READING THE NEWSPAPERS ET CETERA ET CETERA MM-HMM UH THERE HAS BEEN A VERY LONG DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT I STINCT UH THIS DISCUSSION IS STILL VIVID THAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE I BEL BELONG TO THESE PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A MIXED ROOM WHERE YOU CAN HAVE A READING ROOM FOR SURE BUT ALSO MEETING ROOM IF NECESSARY OR AS UH SUSAN SAID A ROOM AN EMERGENCY ROOM WHERE YOU CAN PUT UH SOME VISITORS IN A DECENT ENVIRONMENT FOR FOR FOR FOR WORK MM-HMM BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER PLACE TO DO IT BUT THAT'S THAT'S REALLY AN OPEN DISCUSSION AND THAT D I THINK NO DECISION NO FINAL DECISION HAS BEEN TAKEN ABOUT THAT YEAH OKAY TH THEN OKAY THEN FOR THE NEXT TIME UM TRY TO COME UP EITHER WITH YOUR OWN PREFERENCES THAT'S QUITE EASY PROBABLY TO STATE NOW THAT YOU KNOW THE CONSTRAINTS YES YES OR IF YOU CAN POLL A LITTLE BIT THE PEOPLE AROUND YOU THAT WOULD BE I MEAN EVEN THE ONE THAT I DON'T WANT TO HAVE IN THE NEXT ROOM WELL JUST DISCUSS I YEAH FOR INSTANCE I MEAN NO NO I WAS THINKING JUST ASK PEOPLE AROUND YOU WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT THIS OKAY AND I THINK YEAH IT WILL BE NICE TO TO COME WITH MAYBE A SKETCH OF OF THESE IF YOU CAN DO SLIDES IT'S EVEN BETTER BUT UH DON'T BE THAT FORMAL AND UH WE'LL TRY TO AT LEAST BUILD UP ONE COHERENT PROPOSAL AND WE'LL MERGE IT WITH THE OTHER ONE WHEN THE OTHER ONE UH IS AVAILABLE OKAY OKAY I'LL ASK UM UH MAGGIE AND PIERRETTE UH IF THEY HAVE UH ANY PREFERENCES UM THAT WOULD BE GREAT OH GREAT THAT WOULD BE GREAT MM-HMM PERFECT C THAT THAT OF COURSE IS ONE OF THE MAIN WELL NOT MAIN BUT ONE OF THE IMPORTANT FEATURES THAT WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT YEAH YEAH NO YEAH SINCE THEY'RE NOT AT THE MEETING I THINK IT'S IN OUT OF COURTESY WE SHOULD FIRST ASK THEM YES AND I'LL TRY TO YES BU I JU JUST BEFORE FINISHING UH I MEAN WE HAVE A CAFETERIA OR WE DON'T EAT AT ALL FINE WE DON'T HAVE CAFETERIA WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY CAFETERIA EXACTLY HE MEANS READING ROOM A PLACE N WHAT MM UH WE CAN TAKE A COFFEE ALSO WHAT NO THERE IS NO COFFEE IN THE READING ROOM NO YEAH W WE CAN BRING YOUR COFFEE IN THE READING ROOM BUT THAT WAS THE WRONG WE WE DID NOT HAVE ANY MONEY FOR BUYING THE COFFEE MACHINES SO SO SO SINCE MAYBE YOU'RE A PART TIME HERE AND PART TI PART TIME AT E. P. F. L. THERE ARE AT LEAST TWO UM COFFEE MACHINES IN THE BUILDING ONE AT THE THIRD FLOOR ONE AT THE FIRST FLOOR BUT THEY CLOSE AT FIVE OR AND WE CAN BRING OUR COFFEE NO UH AUTOMATIC UH COFFEE MACHINES AH OKAY NO COFFEE MACHINES OKAY OKAY SO UH YEAH NO THERE'S THE CAFETERIA IS DOWNSTAIRS BUT THEY CLOSE AT FIVE BUT IN YEAH YEAH THIS UH-HUH FIVE AH THAT'S THE MAIN PROBLEM YEAH BUT THERE'S THE TWO MACHINES AND THEY'RE UH THE VENDING MACHINES WHERE YOU JUST PUT THE MONEY AND AND YOU CAN GET YEAH MM-HMM YEAH VENDING MACHINES AND YOU CAN BRING YOUR COFFEE IN THE READING ROOM MM-HMM OKAY OKAY YEAH YEAH MAYBE THIS IS NOT A VERY BAD TIMING COULD WE TRY TO MEET UH NEXT TUESDAY T TO TRY THE COFFEE WAIT UM NEXT TUESDAY MAYBE AT T MAYBE A BIT LATER MAYBE AT ELEVEN O'CLOCK WAIT WAI WAI WAI WAIT WAIT WAIT NEXT TUESDAY TUESDAY UM COME ON TRY TRY TO BE NICE UH WELL WELL WELL WELL NOT SO EASY EH GI GIVE ME A REASONABLE DATE YES I HA I HAVE NO CONSTRAINTS SO IT'S FINE CH UM WE HAVE THE DON'T FORGET WE HAVE THE OTHER MEETING THE M. D. M. MEETING IN THE MORNING SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE IN THE AFTERNOON YEAH FOR ME IT'S A GOOD TIMING UH-HUH OKAY NEXT TUESDAY WE HAVE A MEETING YEAH YEAH EXACTLY THAT MIGHT BE WHERE IS THE MEETING IT'S UNIMAIL YEAH OKAY SO YEAH YEAH THEN IT COULD BE THAT AT NINE THIRTY BUT WE COULD DO WE COULD HAVE THIS MEETING THEN IN THE AFTERNOON THAT YEAH THAT THAT WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE THAT WOULD ALLOW US NOT TO MOVE OR NOT TO TRAVEL TWICE OKAY NAH MM-HMM VERY WELL YEP SO ABOUT TWO O'CLOCK WOULD THAT BE OKAY OKAY AFTER LUNCH YEAH AFTER LUNCH YEAH IT'S NOT A VERY DEMANDING MEETING SO UM PERFECT OKAY RIGHT YEP OKAY UM THEN LET ME CLOSE THIS AND UH GOOD LUCK FOR YOUR ARRANGEMENT GAMES THANK YOU