A few days ago, Bill Simmons and Kevin Durant met for their fourth Bill Simmons Podcast interview. Part 1 dropped on the heels of the Kyrie Irving–to–Boston trade, and Durant weighed in on Irving's trade request from a player's perspective. But after one of the busiest and most surprising NBA offseasons in recent memory, Simmons and Durant had much more to discuss. In the Part 2 of the podcast, they assessed the other huge trades: Jimmy Butler to Minnesota, Paul George to Oklahoma City, and Chris Paul to Houston. Durant assesses the fit of each player on his new team. Read a portion of their conversation below, and listen to the full episode to hear Durant answer more mailbag questions.

This transcript has been edited and condensed. The full podcast will be released at 3:00 a.m. ET on Monday, August 28.

Bill Simmons: Do you buy the theory that the Warriors shook up the entire NBA and caused all this player-movement chaos that happened?

Kevin Durant: Yeah.

Simmons: Because it's been an especially crazy summer.

Durant: Yeah, I buy it. Yeah.

Simmons: I mean, we've had like five major moves. The 1- and the 2-seed in the Eastern Conference traded A-list starters to each other.

Durant: I don't think that was because of us, but —

Simmons: No, it might have been though.

Durant: No, but a lot of teams making moves because of us. You see Houston making moves because they want to.

Simmons: What was the one that surprised you the most?

Durant: That one.

Simmons: Chris Paul?

Durant: I'm not surprised. I'm sorry. I'm not surprised by anything, but it was just kind of like, "Hmm, damn. That's a smart move." I wouldn't think nobody would be that smart to pull that one off.

Simmons: What do you think of James [Harden] and Chris Paul on the same team?

Durant: I think it was a great move. You put two guys together that — crafty with the ball like that — they're going to get everybody shots, and they're going to get each other shots, so it was a ballsy move to pull off by [Daryl] Morey. And I don't think nobody would have thought to do that, because especially when you've got James, who basically plays your point guard, you really have to have some type of clarity when you're making a decision like that. Because it's just like, you played well last year, but this — he cannot sustain this. You gotta know that. You can't; just look at the numbers. So you can tell that he's actually seeing some stuff within this team. He's paying attention.

Simmons: What about PG to OKC?

Durant: That was a shock too.

Simmons: PG was one of your favorite opponents.

Durant: Oh yeah. Yeah. Any 3-man that I feel — all the 3s that play my position. That's the only players I'm really rivaling with. Like, I don't rival with no other players. I'm not guarding a point guard all game, or guarding shooting guards or power forwards. I'm looking at only small forwards, so that's why I've got so much respect, and I think Paul George is so good. A lot of people disrespect him. Because I play against him and I respect my position.

So that was shocking because Indiana just gave him away. And I ain't think OKC would even think about giving up anything to trade for him. I didn't think they would do it, but that was a ballsy move.

Simmons: OKC has the third-highest payroll this year. I don't know if you noticed that.

Durant: Good. Spend it.

Simmons: Steven Adams, Paul George, Westbrook, Andre Roberson, and who's the fifth guy in crunch time for them. I'm blanking.

Durant: Patrick Patterson.

Simmons: So that's their crunch time, probably. That's a good spot.

Durant: No, no, no. It's going to be, they going to try, they're going to probably go Russ, uhh, who's the sixth man?

Simmons: Kanter?

Durant: They need a — I think there's another wing they might use and put PG at the 4 and put Steven at the 5.

Simmons: I think they're going to —

Durant: They need another wing.

Simmons: