Title: Gothic rock - Wikipedia
Headings: Gothic rock
Gothic rock
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Forerunners (1960s and 1970s)
Origins
Expansion of the scene
Subsequent developments
Visual elements
Impact
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Content: Many consider them a gothic rock band whereas many don't. Author Christopher Partridge writes that although fans argue about over whether Joy Division is goth, simply "proto-goth" or neither, the argument is that the band's lyrics, music, album covers, and Curtis' life all show characteristics that are "fundamentally gothic". Author Isabella van Elferen writes: There are old school goths, for instance, who claim Joy Division was authentically gloomy proto-goth, and that you had to be there to really understand them; there are former punks who respond in fury, claiming Joy Division had nothing to do with goth, but were authentically punk, and so goth should stay away from them; and there are cybergoths who roll their eyes and claim that those old people should finally forget about Joy Division because Trent Reznor is the authentic founder of modern goth. Origins
Gothic rock band Bauhaus performing live in August 2006
Not long after, the "gothic" label "became a critical term of abuse" for a band like Bauhaus, who had arrived on the music scene in 1979. At the time, NME considered that "Siouxsie and the Banshees, Adam and the Ants and even [...] Joy Division" opened up "a potentially massive market" for newcomers like Bauhaus and Killing Joke: however, critic Andy Gill separated these two groups of bands, pointing out that there was a difference "between art and artifice". However, Bauhaus's debut single, " Bela Lugosi's Dead ", released in late 1979, was retrospectively considered to be the beginning of the gothic rock genre.