public Insets getBorderInsets(Component  c, Insets s) { if (s == null) s = new Insets(0,0,0,0);  s.left = l; s.right = r; s.top = t; s.bottom = b;  return s; }
public Insets getBorderInsets(Component c) { return getBorderInsets(c, null); }
    public Insets getBorderInsets(Component  c,				  Insets s)    {	if (s == null)	    s = new Insets(0,0,0,0);	s.left = l;	s.right = r;	s.top = t;	s.bottom = b;		return s;    }