> and you base that on talmud being written after jesus but judaism existed before talmud because tanakh/torah/ot existed. jesus himself is recorded pointing out that the pharisee (mongrels) were already splitting from the noahide laws they were practicing the "traditions of the elders" which was a proto form of the oral talmud and they were doing not like abraham did 39 they answered and said unto him, abraham is our father. jesus saith unto them, if ye were abraham's children, ye would do the works of abraham. 40 but now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which i have heard of god: this did not abraham.
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