> engineers are middle-class pawns forever. engineers fairly easily to get into the "upper class" by going into things like biomedical engineering or chemical/genetic engineering etc. it is fairly easily to get into the upper classes when you study in fields which are related to medicine or other subjects of "great" political significance.  most engineers study in "meh" specialties or end up become lazy idiots. - engineering student who has worked around lazy engineers.
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