> muh counseling  you probably have no clue what a long term marriage takes. how long have you been married? you also are either dumb or never experienced real problems in a marriage, if you think any sort of institutional therapy really helps. all therapy is basically the same, it depends solely on the therapist. if you have a therapist who has actually dealt with real problems in an actual traditional marriage themselves, then it might be beneficial. taking advice from people who know how to do the things you want to do is wise. but, taking advice or "therapy" from someone who has never done the things they are advising on just because they have some certificate is bad advice. and, yes, if you're woman is asking you to go get counseling, she's already lost respect for you and your prospects in the relationship are grim.  truth is, there are no answers for some problems. you just have to fucking deal with it.
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