i remember a few weeks ago tds was discussing abortion and in vitro fertilization, and mike and jesse were spouting off that only evangelical extremists were opposed to ivf. they somehow were unaware that the catholic church has been against ivf since it was invented, that the reasoning behind their opposition was laid out by pope paul vi in his encyclical humanae vitae (of human life), abd that evangelicals hold various takes on ivf. i get that they don't care that much, but abortion/birth control issue has been a big deal on the right for over half a century and they should be well versed or at least be able to do some research before the show instead of "hurr durr, evangelicals, israel's cock!" it's getting to be a real dunning-krueger happy variety smile time show over there
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