didn't refute myself because those veterans had families, didn't take drugs like the modern junkie or chainsmoker do now, grew up with morals and to always stand strong. what do you have now? junkies that go with the flow, just keep doping until i die bro, if they had the willpower nor a reason to stop thus have abandoned themselves, you can try to fix them but if they don't do it out of their own volition then you are running in circles, you could say that they have a reason now since they have land to tend to but how do you know if they don't do it because they were forced to it (that's assuming they even bother to tend the fields because it's not easy fucking work now is it?) or they won't sell the land for some easy money?
Greece