yeah i think op is just sour grapes about women really lol. women pick up on that and it's over. he's got light switch brain where someone going to the gym is always doing it to attract women and get ripped, when in actuality some people like me just do it casually for an hour or two to feel better and have better stamina in daily activities. frankly what got me out of it was summer. i just didn't want to go sit in a gym. if it was nice out i'd be fishing every day and exploring. and we didn't get a lot of rain this summer so... but now it's winter and i want to get back in shape.
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