yeah. but no matter how much i rack my brain and insert myself into their shoes i can't see an actual way to achieve victory in their eyes. unless victory is merely exterminating all life on earth and creating as much suffering as possible before they are extinguished from existence permanently, then sure, i guess they meet their own win condition. but it's a retarded one because we still go on.   they won't stop but even then that wouldn't be enough for long term sustainability of their model. everything they've done, down to tiny details like the forever chemicals in the food and lifespan sabotage directly shoots them in the feet because it reduces the genetic pool that they literally need. even if they were willing to roll it all back and stop, i don't think it would be enough at this stage. they accelerated the destruction of all life by something like 10000% in 2020. i can't really see the logic in this aside from spite.
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