the suit tailored to fit the west is what you see with liberalism & secular society, but that is what people are complaining about in the first place. i already said here     that with all its faults, we still prefer western secular & liberal society. yes, that's why i said totalitarianism would be more effective, like if europe suddenly collapsed to islam. it would kill the status quo. christianity, as it stands now, subsists with liberal & secular democracies, and cannot really overcome it.
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