> i think thats just wishful thinking nonsense. there is not a single thing man can create that he is not outside of. you carved a chair, you do not exist as part of the chair. even if you build a house and live "in" the house, your existence is outside the house. i see no reason to believe the universe is not similar, that it's all "we" know has no bearing on how "god" operates in relation to it. further, it's a necessity for the "simulation" argument. even stepping outside of the gounds of religious arguments, our current physics model of the universe speaks of the big bang, and that the universe is not in fact eternal (at least last i checked, which was a while ago), rendering a large part of your stance moot.
United States