> not true.  yes it is. > you can leave the church, but you cannot change the church by your leaving. the orthodox have not changed. yes they have. for example the iconostasis was a change. developed over a thousand years after christs death and added into the liturgy of chrysostom. i know they told you it hasnt changed but it has. which to be fare doesnt mean you are going to hell, but its just a fact that they have changed, the claim that theyve added nothing and taken nothing is a lie. > we follow the example of the holy fathers and the saints some do, some dont. again as i said, the orthodox cant agree. > holy tradition (capital t) both predates and presupposes the bible.  but holy tradition (capital t) must be interpreted in light of scripture because otherwise you cant tell whats part of the deposit of faith. else you could slap a capital t tradition on anything.  > the words of the apostles are equal to their writings. yes but we dont have any extra biblical words of the apostles to go to so saying that is a pointless statement.
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