depends on your viewpoint. his brother was the one who first really got good cereal going and whi ran off to make a business, he was the one who had money and had the fame for their family name vefore that and had been the one who caused his brother to make the cereals. basically just remember one was a weird deep closet degenerate that was anti degenerate and a health nut, the other was his loser brother who did the things people actually like.
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