> yeah but that's just meaningless.  what makes it meaningless? existance is meaing in itself. it might be circular but that doesn't make it untrue > i exist therefore i have the right to exist? yes, its a simple truth that is self-evident. why does that make it problematic? what more do you want from it? > whatever said about rights isn't going to stop someone from killing or abusing me if they want to unless i or some authority prevents them. if someone kills you or abuses you they're violating your rights. we have the capacity of free will. you have to have the freedom to violate natural law to live in accordance with it. thats the nature of duality which is a fundamental law behind reality. that doesn't negate your rights. it actually corroborates them. the same way we know hot is hot and cold is cold because we understand both polarities. we understand what our rights are because we understand when they are violated > and much of the rights we have today are completely alienable because they didn't exist in the past, such as when slavery was totally legal and normal. slavery is a violation of individual rights. it always was, is and always will be. the issue again is that we have the capacity to violate those rights because in order to live in a reality with free will as a fundamental precept we have that ability > a slave would not think twice about their rights or lack of them. explain slave revolts and rebellions then? explain emancipation? explain all the rights movements throughout human history? slaves are very much conscious of their rights. probably more so than those who are living in an environment where their rights are intact. because you don't know what you've got until its gone
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