while i agree with you and there does seem to be a component of "you won't do shit" involved, as someone here in the east i am obliged to point out that both the hohols and russians are total bugmen and so different from us in terms of rebelliousness and defiance of authority that i sometimes get culture shocked when i read their thoughtslop and justifications for their authoritarian governments. people to the west aren't as radically a bugman as these two are.
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