> do you think the first god just appeared out of nowhere randomly? that kinda is the case with the universe. because you're trying to use intuition for it. like 4d (4th being time) chimp intuition. something that makes something obligatory implies time. time which popped up with the big bang itself, after expansion. so there is no before/after past the big bang. hence the act of consequence itself is a logical fallacy. you cannot ask this question, basically, logically speaking. it's nonsense. > but... chimp intuition, not the right tool for the job
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