> they provoked a conflict, announced their intention of inflicting a strategic defeat on russia and got defeated and pushed back.how is it not a defeat? they pulled away one of russia's biggest allies and turned them into a western proxy state which has forced russia to engage in a war which they will feel the effects for decades. human capital has fled and russia continues to send more people to die because they can't compete with us money and subversion tactics. the whole reason putin didn't invade ukraine after maidan is because he thought he could get it back under his control with enough time and influence. this didn't work so the west forced his hand. not a single nato soldier was harmed during this entire war. zelensky will lose and flee to israel. ukraine will be in ruins and it will take decades to repair to become profitable. ukraine's population is decimated or abroad. a simple phyrric victory. > the western sanctions failed to destroy the russian economy,quite the opposite, somehow russia managed to become the 4th largest economy during the war. russia is only the "4th biggest economy" because of military production. it can only last for so long. it's like hitler having the biggest economy in europe when all they did was build tanks. it only lasts for so long, not all gdp is created equal.  > the western mic failed to outproduce russian mic.the western military doctrines failed to dominate russian military doctrines.  they managed to weaken russia. i don't think the west really cares if ukraine wins or not, in fact they're trying to lengthen the war so that they can get the most bang out of their buck.  > europe is de industrializing because they are cut off from russian cheap energy but they are still buying energy from russia in the form of lng through india, but not cheap.so russia still get money but europe no longer get cheap energy to fuel their industries. pretty sure they're getting energy and oil from the us now. cont.
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