one must understand that these people are a product of a potent form of radicalization. this was done by military and federal intelligence agencies. years ago reddit accidentally let it slip that a medium sized town was the "most reddit addicted" town in the us with a well over 100 percent usage rate.  the truth is it was actually eglin air force base in florida. they are home to a psychological operations division. i'm pretty sure they were extensively testing the use of multiple different psychological operation techniques. astroturfing and manufactured consensus narratives are the bread and butter of reddit psy ops. these tactics do not work well on places like pol. reddits up vote and down vote system combined with it's heavy handed censorship is the perfect environment to spread propaganda.  at this point, we have a number of people who have allowed themselves to be exposed to this kind of ideological warfare for over a decade. these are the redditors who seem like they live in another reality than we do. that's because they essentially do. one of the goals of ideological subversion is to make your target believe the inversion of reality is the truth. it's not enough to make them not believe the truth, you have to make them believe anti-truths. this makes them completely incapable of making reasonable judgements about the things happening around them. this is how you get your target to advocate for open borders, disarming themselves, abolishment of free speech, etc. this is how you create radical leftists, you invert reality and ensure that they identity with an "oppressed" group so they can eventually attack your real target, the so called "oppressor" group.  radicalizing people on the right is more difficult and slow but once it begins it happens at a faster rate.
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