everything that ive said in this thread is at odds with the church. those idiots whom you are complaining about are more wrong than you are. does that make sense to you? your grievances against the church and every form of its behavior are entirely valid. and, in that, you, though you dont realize it and will probably protest against it, agree with what is written in the bible.  there is one thing that is written that i think you will maybe entertain. in many books and in many chapters the bible says this "get rid of your high places" further one of the sins that israel is charged with is "building a high place on every street". this is speaking of temples and churches. this is speaking of the teaching that someone needs to go to a particular place to find out about god. biblically, church is supposed to be any place where people are. its not supposed to be some opulent cathedral or some vacant space in a shopping mall or anything in between. the mindset that crap teaches is "we need to go here to be with god and we need the people that run that place to teach us" god is everywhere and in everything and he is our perpetual teacher. whether or not we want to admit it.
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