> from the four tezcatlipocas descended the first people who were titans/giants called quinametzin i know you guys like this stuff: > the quinametzin ("titans/giants") lived during the first sun, the black sun (saturn), identified as xiuhtecuhtli/tezcatlipoca... on the other hand, for the author of the codex vaticanus-latinus 3738... and according to muoz camargo... who both place the giants during the first sun, this was a jaguar sun. motolina... alva ixtlilxchitl... and the author of the anales de cuauhtitlan... all consider that the era of the giants was the second one, called wind sun... finally, according to andr thvet... and another version recovered by alva ixtlilxchitl... the era of the giants was the third one... excepting the latter name (rain sun), the eras associated with the giants refer to heavy elements, water or earth... the ways in which the giants are destroyed also vary according to the sources: they are devoured by jaguars... crushed under the collapse of the heavenly vault... die during an earthquake... drown in a flood... or die as a consequence of a hurricane > alva ixtlilxchitl is the only author to mention as a cause for their destruction several serious sins that have committed - without elaborating. fortunately details are available in other texts, which place the giants in a historical context. they are considered the oldest inhabitants of the earth, and the discovery of gigantic bones constitutes, for the indians as for the spaniards, proof of their past existence. the extreme antiquity of these remains grants them the status of ancestors. we should remember that, to create present mankind, ehecatl [god of wind] took the bones of giants kept in mictlan. todays human beings owe their reduced size to the fact that ehecatl fell and broke the giants bones...
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