in the group i've been part of for some years, only 2 of us have a girlfriend/wife. from what i can tell, the rest of these dudes don't even know where to meet women because they've been conditioned through childhood not to be creepy and predatory by approaching women publicly, and all of the online spaces they might join to speak with women are hyper feminized progressive spaces where they can't really be themselves and feel like one in an army of simps competing for the attention of some tattooed overweight roastie that pretends to be bisexual and probably has a boyfriend in reality. these dudes have just checked out and lack the social graces to talk to women privately and immediately leave an impression. due to their lack of experience interacting with women, even when women are around they'll shoot themselves in the foot by being faggots and getting upset/moping about some shit that's happening in a video game, or kiss the womans ass, or are purposely shittier to the woman like some kind of tsundere fag.  i thought at first they were just disinterested but they all seem to want a girlfriend on some level. mostly they just don't even seem to want to try, isolated and demoralized and when the opportunity presents itself they're too socially retarded to give anything the opportunity to unfold.
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