yes, and the gateway drug for this is basically young adult / fantasy books. sarah j mass, fourth wing, books like that. then you go darker and darker until they are reading den of vipers etc.  start with their fantasies from the book, it will make you look interested in what they are reading and they will enjoy that, then you start your own fantasys with them. takes time but basically i do not do my own laundry, cook my own food and if the baby is asleep and wife is upstairs i just face fuck her on the couch lol
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