trad women circles are a joke too. i've seen enough trad wives lust after their tv-celevrity-husbands as they belittle their own married husbands, and play it off as harmless parasocial lust. i've known "trad-girls" and they sucked and fucked just as much as their progressive couterparts. only difference was they hid it rather than celebrated in it, because of the stigma. but if they felt comfortable around you, they would tell you their sex-ploits in detail and ask you advice. fucking incels at this point have far more unintentional sexual purity versus women and that's by pure happen chance. maybe not spiritual celibacy, because they still lust, but if they can overcome that shit... regardless, even church women have been utterly corrupted and there's a weird juxtaposition of men being the more unintentionally sexually pure overall.
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