> i have no desire to stop it personally, i'm fine with it, i'd like to see where it goes even. that's fair enough. > there's no opening for what you want right now, can only sow seeds and wait and hope.  i am pretty sure there won't be a better window of opportunity any time soon. > what's the goal anyway in doing it?  why does one anything? if anything, then to mitigate damage. > they seem pretty happy to be the way they are, may as well let them have it.  oh, people can do whatever they please, so long as their kneejerk descisions don't lead towards an indiscriminate deathlottery of freak accidents. > they've got their world built on a different foundation than yours and they've found comfort there. what do you replace that all with? how do you take all that away? there has to be a workable compromise that leaves them their world and prevents them from throwing away their health for a donut and a quick fix of parasocial validation.
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