cathars survived, we can tell by their trades which included papermaking. watermarks prove it in fact. gnostics don't define themselves well so it's hard to pin them down. but you're promoting the thesis. i do think it's, at its core, jewish and syncretic. but jews are natures best syncretists. > then i'm afraid you're not really doing christianity.  i believe in and practice primitive christianity, i don't belong to any cultus or sect though i was brought up and baptised in the lutheran church elca. but they're fully pozzed now. > odin came from asia minor and was accompanied by 12 companions yes he's in fact something made up after christian missionaries came to the region. it's just a typical heresy. > i suggest some plato to fix this misuse of the word.  it's not a misuse, it has a christian context and has for 2000 years. in the christian idiom a 'demon' of plato could be a demon, or an angel. there was no judgement or discernment, as they didn't have the concept of the all-powerful creator and his created rival. their 'gods' were for the most part, deified men or nature-principles which were embodied for the sake of the plebs.
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