> sin is literally going against god's will. like, that's how it is defined, every act is moral and without sin if it's done because god said so  > saying that "we need help" and a "savior" because we don't always do what we're ordered to is deranged, especially because we supposedly need saving from his punishment  this is why you do need a savior. heaven is god's presence, and hell is outside of god's presence (literally described as a bright light and utter darkness). god won't force you to be in his holy presence, but if you aren't in his presence you will suffer. to say it's "god's punishment for your sins" is to say that certain behaviors are against god's holy spirit and therefore cannot enter into his kingdom. let's use the example of a gun club. if someone comes there but doesn't want to shoot guns (like you wanting to enter heaven but not live in accordance to god's will) it would be only rational to kick him out of said club. otherwise the club will stop being about guns and become some other club. heaven is about being in god's presence and following his will. if you don't like that you can choose to go to hell where people don't live in god's will. you cannot gain the benefit of god's presence without also living in accordance with his spirit. > truth doesn't need faith, only scammers try to pull that bullshit i disagree. ever meet a flat earther? they don't have faith in any of the conventional science, and assuming you're not a flat earther yourself you should concede then that if you have faith that, say, the moon landing wasn't faked then it would follow that you believe the truth that the earth is round.
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