you guys are both kind of missing something. the average person is just retarded with money. you could work a year or two at a shitty job and be able to get everything you need to independently support yourself. you need less than 5 acres of land to feed a family of 10. you can build your own house if you are outside of city limits almost anywhere in the world. a deep well and solar are about 15k usd a piece. do all that and every bit of money you earn for the rest of your life you get to keep save for a couple hundred dollars in property tax if you have them. never rent, never take loans, and always produce for yourself.
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