youre putting the cart before the horse. men get like that because there isnt a woman waiting on him.  women went their own way, its wgtow, not mgtow. they abandoned men, women do not want marriage or kids, not a majority anyway. stop listening to what women say and what women do.  women claim they want marriage, but they are lying. a woman lying? is this hard to believe? women can have whatever they want. if she wanted a husband, she would have it.
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