> first paragraph lists out proof to my point > conclusion; you are a materialist because you won't dive headfirst into this misery > second paragraph  i'm not against people, say, living with their parents, especially before they marry. but packing not two but multiple generations with far too many people in a small home like the oft cited example of bugmen or jeets due to economic constraints is not dignified in the slightest. people following their primal urge to reproduce isn't dignified either, it's just animalistic (and not inherently bad, when you remove it from the context of squalor). raising children with the intent of providing opportunity for them to be strong, healthy, intelligent, and happy is what is dignified. reproduction by itself has no dignity, it's just a biological necessity for the continuation of your lineage.  > it does not make the rest of us trash no but living in squalor and then bringing more sapient beings into said squalor because muh lineage does.  > it will not be missed from this planet oh believe me it will, people who breed as opposed to make families will eventually miss the running water and electricity after it fails when the higher iq people who maintain it die out.
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