right because all of europe was wien.  if the ottomans took the city, so what? they couldnt conquer germany, they couldnt even hold onto the balkans.   walesa himself said the polish overthrow of communism was due to rupert murdochs peasant broadcasts where they would beam words like freedom and democracy interspersed among agricultural advice and the reading of almanacs to polish farmers. your country is fake. thats why no one cares to be polish and your nationalism is always some kind of weak revanchist screed against a foreigner rather than an appreciation of yourself. germans have real nationalism. they love their food, their dress, their language, their great history. you have no charlemagne, no frederick the great, no hitler. you have pierogis and cavalry that teenagers praise for being used against browns (once) and then mock for getting used against panzers (more than once).   > the ottomans would have conquered north west europe if not for pidors on ponies lol
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