> no, i'm asking you why identify permission and will thise are aspects of your god. since he's omnipotent and omniscient then nothing happens without his permission/will > like how god hardened the heart of the pharaoh or the verse in proverbs > don't be so literal-minded apply that to a virgin giving birth or a man rising from the dead 3 days later with no body left behind.  > >gods will supercedes yours > on the contrary, man can choose to conform to god's will or not.  no contrary. because if you don't bend the knee then he damns you  > consequences bind your the choice you made. cause and effect. if free will was truly free then no one would ever have anxiety > i get it.  you don't  > you don't like the consequences of certain actions see? you don't as is evident by your strawman  demonstrate a will free from consequences and free from your gods will
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