the bar cuckba revolt wasn't even a war of occupation. judea was a roman province and the jews were roman citizens. the war was won when the revolt was over. and, despite being quite different, our recent wars can be viewed somewhat similarly in that it's clear we lost because we were never able to move past occupation. we're not fighting a constant guerilla war against german insurgents to maintain our control there. so that's a sign that we already won that war. but that never stopped being the case in vietnam and afghanistan. we did arguably have a period of control in iraq, so i'm not as adamant about that being an outright loss. but if we are counting it as a victory it was a useless one that gained us nothing, which isn't much better than losing.
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