ignoring the shock value of the topic, admission of total 4chan victory comes very frequently from those that constantly preen about how central they are to culture and smarter than the chuds they are my engineer vs. scientist thing is gonna be really prescient in terms of the battle of the rhizome and dark rhizome (    ). the value condition of any theory professing to be a "science" is correspondence to the real. in reality, scientists have to simultaneously be engineers or they are just blowhards spouting nonsense (and "scientist" is just a social status label than a meaningful one). if i must side with a meaning for the real it will be the one described by those who interact with the real - the engineer has always been right
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