> you just assert that the universe itself is exempt from the rules that apply to everything else. i'm not. i'm. making the assertion based on physics and the notion that the universe or what makes the universe is eternal. energy can't be "created" but it can gain momentum again once used up. and this universe may still be expanding, that's not much of a big deal, who knows, maybe it'll never stop expanding.  i'll point out, since this is an atheist thread at least science within the natural universe can try to explain how it works while theism is a rather lazy attempt to by going into the realm of the supernatural universe, which exists outside the realm of the natural universe.
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