yupyupyup paypal, tesla, x, the boring company and spacex all lost and gone with the wind such tragedy.. > inb4 "he didn't even do anything in these companies/it's all government money hurrfuckingdurrrr"   and there it fucking is lol, why do you people think musk taking advantage of these sytems is somehow extraordinary, every fucking mogul does this, you just don't care unless the guy that does it is in opposition to your own politics you think amazon and co. don't get those if they invest in renewables? and acting as if the, what, 10 billion? over a decade were the sole reason for his rise is just retarded look here:   business/elon-musk-wealth-governmen t-help/index.html do you see how even fucking cnn has to cope and add gov. contracts (lol!) and fucking low(!) interest loans to even make it seem like he is wholly dependent, oh and those tesla cuts? not paid by tax dollars  > le foreigner trying out civnat arguments on /pol/, i see what a bold strategy lol the only real argument i see itt is the conflation of gov. and private sector but on that point the us is so far gone already, might as well just rip the band-aid off and go full bore at least that way there is a chance for change, for worse or better remains to be seen imo
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