even if i agree that "man as a natural right to self defense", it's still a pretty big leap to "we should do nothing at all about mass shootings because gods inscribed 'shall not be infringed' on magic parchment 300 years ago". that's why i'm not entertaining this argument. the world they wrote those words for does not exist anymore.  > muh slave owners sorry it hurts your feelings. it's not an ad hominem, it's a fact, they owned other humans.
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