> this war started in 2014 when russia invaded crimea i'd go earlier. 2013 when putin launched a trade embargo against ukraine because yanukovych wanted to sign a trade deal with the european union. i think yanukovych was ultimately crucified by putin, because putin threatened him and put him into an impossible situation. of course, maidan was rational but putin used this situation that he created in order to create the atmosphere he needed to deploy russian fsb agents like igor girkin and valery bolotov into east ukraine to start combat operations up. my point is that i think the real war started in 2013 with putin's embargo against ukraine, because putin claimed ukraine making trade deals was a "threat".
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