this and it's been that bad for over ten years. couldn't debate a leftist in the 2000s but since the 2010s you can't have a conversation in good faith.   shocking isn't it. around 10 years ago tried having a conversation with a friend about global warming/climate change. he tried to start the conversation setting ground rules which we would than go from their. i looked at him like he had a dick on his forehead and said forget it.
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