> when both get destroyed  youre completely missing the point though, these tanks were designed and made in the cold war where nato doctrine relies on the big western tanks taking out the smaller shitter soviet tanks. they realised that they couldnt outpace soviet industry in tank production so they built better heavily armed tanks that would destroy multiple tanks before being destroyed itself. hence why we had abrams and challengers dabbing iraqis for 20 years. funnily enough russias realised their mistake and gone to a more expensive heavily armed tank (t14 armada) which im sure will come out oh maybe like two more weeks or something
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