how do you define 'winning a war' if "literally killing every human in the area" is off the table? the us won iraq because the entire iraqi government and military 100% collapsed and dissolved. all that was left in iraq were buildings and people. so can you explain to us how you could ever "win" iraq if you weren't going to utterly liquidate everyone? if even one single iraqi were still alive, even just one, when the us left, would that be "losing"? how could the us have ever 'won' vietnam then? since apparently collapsing the north vietnamese government is off the table since when the us did it to iraq it "didn't count" for some reason
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