/pol/ was heavily libertarian pre-trump apart from the nazi larpers. you have to have some kind carrot on a stick (pay and prospect of advancement) that makes the labor pool of a population work to have a functioning society. otherwise nobody gets food, hospitals, utilities, or entertainment to make work worthwhile. when the means of production are seized, the only solution to keep things running is to have the state force people to work at gunpoint in positions that they dont get to choose.
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