> that is exactly what we both say. no, i say forcibly cutting families in half because you specifically say you don't support peace is not peaceful while you say undermining peace by cutting families and nations apart is peaceful. > why do you say "next you're going to say x" then i say "yes i could say x" then you say "stop saying x you are not saying x you are a liar"  i don't do that, i point out a biblical passage, you lie about it, then i correct you just like how i quoted jesus as saying he didn't come to bring peace and you say that he doesn't want peace for the sake of peace, then i point out how that contradicts itself. > but i could also help the poor more by being poor, sick, mocked and still praising god. no you can't, and you aren't doing that, you are taking advantage of the wealth of the internet and all the electronics and time required to access it for hours on end. > the world is not redeemed i accept your concession, jesus's sacrifice was not perfect, he hasn't redeemed anyone other than stupid narcissistic people who find any reason to justify their own divinity and would claim to believe in him to manipulate other people even if they knew for a fact jesus didn't ever physically exist. > you either do or do not.  you shouldn't since it is clearly based on obvious falsehoods and none of the core tenets are justifiable other than saying you just should believe, man.
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