> the western church decided the changes they made to the creed were fine, despite opposition from everyone else. yeah no shit. if you're asking me why pope gregory didn't say it was wrong it's because he was wrong. easy day.  > even so, the pope could change the creed as st. jerome said in letter 15 to the pope st. jerome does not have the authority to dictate rules to the ecumenical council. it's the same issue with papal infallibility, no one man has authority over the church except for christ. the orthodox church was founded by christ and the apostles and was set up the way it did because that's the way god wanted it. your later changes to it are not proof of god's will.  > and a faithful catholic in the first millennium could not disobey papal decrees as pope st. gelasius said again, your church as it is in the first century, did not exist as it does today. word concept fallacy.  > finally, to suggest that someone loses apostolic succession due to heresy unrelated to the sacraments is donatism > no you're the real heretics! grow up.  if you want the complete orthodox position i would recommend "the orthodox church and ecumenism" by st. justin popovich.
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