 Just don't do what I did, and base your decision on the Touring model. It is designed by Toyota to be much stiffer suspension then the Limited and others.I drove both and the Touring model was like my 2013, Very nice, but way to stiff and uncomfortable for my and my wife, but the Limited, now that's a horse of a different color. Much more like the Avalons of old, not as smooth / comfortable, but very close, and the tech stuff is real nice, to bad at this time you have to get a Limited to get all the goodies.