 We looked at everything in this price class,new and used.  CR-V, RAV 4, Subaru Forester, Kia Rondo,Suzuki Grand Vitara.  Nothing offered the combination of fun and function like the Mazda.  This is not meant as a replacement for the minivan from Honda, Toyota,etc. You must drive this "microvan" before passing judgment on it. If you appreciate sharp steering and handling over a softer ride, you will not be disappointed.  Bottom line: If you need to haul a small family around or just some stuff AND have fun doing it, the Mazda 5 is for you!  It was for us!  For those complaining about snow traction. Get four snow tires. 205/50/17 all season tires were never meant for snow!