 I brought my Kia brand new in 06.  It was the only 05 left and it only had 7 test miles on it.  This van has taken me back and forth to Vax4, MDx3, Gax4 and Flx2 with no problems what so ever. I wouldn't trade it for the world.  I don't know what everyone else is talking about but my Kia it awesome.  It is all about how you take care of your vehicle.  