Below is an context that describes a sql query, paired with an question that provides further information. Write an answer that appropriately completes the request.  # noqa: E501
### Context:
CREATE TABLE table_name_61 (draws VARCHAR, losses VARCHAR, points VARCHAR)
### Question:
What is the number of draws for the team with more than 8 losses and 13 points?
### Answer:
SELECT draws FROM table_name_61 WHERE losses > 8 AND points = 13