▁earlier ▁Gent le ▁Gi ant ▁work . ▁ ▁While ▁Ker ry ▁Min near ▁would ▁pron ounce ▁himself ▁far ▁more ▁satisfied ▁with ▁this ▁album ▁and ▁its ▁songs , ▁Ray ▁Sh ul man ▁would ▁eventually ▁state , ▁" I ▁h ated ▁making ▁[ that ] ▁last ▁record , ▁I ▁h ated ▁being ▁involved ▁with ▁it ." ▁In ▁ 2 0 0 5 , ▁D erek ▁Sh ul man ▁reflected , ▁" C ivil ian ▁was ▁done ▁with ▁less ▁passion ▁than ▁some ▁of ▁the ▁other ▁albums . ▁As ▁it ▁turns ▁out ▁we ▁as ▁a ▁band ▁were ▁just ▁not ▁good ▁at ▁being ▁rock ▁or ▁pop ▁stars . ▁We ▁would ▁have ▁loved ▁to ▁be ▁as ▁popular ▁as ▁a ▁Gen esis ▁or ▁R ush ▁or ▁Yes . ▁In ▁h inds ight , ▁I ▁sometimes ▁think ▁that ▁Gent le ▁Gi ant ▁was ▁wrong fully ▁put ▁into ▁the ▁progress ive ▁rock ▁category . ▁Much ▁of ▁what ▁we ▁did ▁was ▁very ▁clever , ▁but ▁we ▁certainly ▁didn ' t ▁do ▁these ▁long ▁complex ▁t unes ▁like ▁Yes ▁or ▁Gen esis ▁did ." ▁ ▁Split ▁ ▁In ▁the ▁summer ▁of ▁ 1 9 8 0 , ▁the ▁group ▁dis band ed . ▁In ▁ 2 0 0 5 , ▁D erek ▁Sh ul man ▁re called ▁that ▁" the ▁cre ative ▁ju ices ▁just ▁wer en ' t ▁flow ing . ▁I ▁was ▁living ▁in ▁Los ▁Angeles ▁at ▁the ▁time ▁when ▁we ▁broke ▁up . ▁We ▁wer en ' t ▁really ▁sure ▁what ▁direction ▁to ▁take . ▁I ▁don ' t ▁regret ▁the