▁made ▁by ▁J ensen ▁and ▁the ▁A CL . ▁J ensen ▁respond ed ▁that ▁the ▁matter ▁was ▁complex ▁and ▁that ▁he ▁would ▁like ▁to ▁hear ▁the ▁facts . ▁He ▁said , ▁" It ' s ▁all ▁very ▁well ▁to ▁say ▁that ▁what ▁I ▁say ▁causes ▁this . ▁That ▁to ▁my ▁mind ▁is ▁... al ready ▁fa cile ." ▁ ▁When ▁question ed ▁as ▁to ▁whether ▁God ▁might ▁be ▁responsible ▁for ▁a ▁" g ay ▁gene ", ▁J ensen ▁respond ed ▁that ▁God ▁created ▁and ▁lov es ▁all ▁people . ▁He ▁stated ▁that ▁same - sex ▁att raction ▁was ▁not ▁the ▁important ▁issue ▁and ▁that ▁what ▁he ▁was ▁talking ▁about ▁was ▁the ▁acting ▁out ▁of ▁same - sex ▁att raction . ▁J ensen ▁was ▁asked ▁whether ▁he ▁thought ▁that ▁his ▁att itudes ▁towards ▁gay ▁marriage ▁and ▁the ▁submission ▁of ▁women ▁were ▁contrib uting ▁factors ▁in ▁the ▁rise ▁of ▁at he ism . ▁He ▁respond ed ▁that ▁he ▁did ▁not ▁believe ▁that ▁there ▁had ▁been ▁a ▁rise ▁in ▁at he ism . ▁He ▁concluded ▁by ▁saying ▁that ▁God ▁had ▁revealed ▁himself ▁through ▁Jesus ▁and ▁that ▁through ▁him , ▁all ▁people ▁have ▁equality . ▁ ▁J ensen ▁has ▁advoc ated ▁" lay ▁administration " ▁in ▁which ▁lay ▁people ▁could ▁be ▁lic ensed ▁to ▁pres ide ▁at ▁Holy ▁Comm union ▁services . ▁This ▁reflect s ▁his ▁view ▁that ▁the ▁min istry ▁of ▁word ▁and ▁sacr ament ▁belong ▁together ▁and , ▁as ▁lay ▁people ▁have ▁long ▁been ▁permitted ▁to ▁pre ach ▁in ▁the ▁Sydney ▁dioc ese , ▁it