▁to ▁the ▁agent . ▁One ▁example ▁was ▁the ▁collect ive ▁suic ide ▁led ▁by ▁Jim ▁Jones . ▁The ▁suic idal ▁agents ▁were ▁not ▁conscious ▁that ▁their ▁free ▁will ▁have ▁been ▁manip ulated ▁by ▁external , ▁even ▁if ▁un ground ed , ▁reasons . ▁ ▁Other ▁views ▁Some ▁philosoph ers ' ▁views ▁are ▁difficult ▁to ▁categor ize ▁as ▁either ▁compat ibil ist ▁or ▁in compat ibil ist , ▁hard ▁determin ist ▁or ▁libert arian . ▁For ▁example , ▁Ted ▁Hon der ich ▁holds ▁the ▁view ▁that ▁" det erm in ism ▁is ▁true , ▁compat ibil ism ▁and ▁in compat ibil ism ▁are ▁both ▁false " ▁and ▁the ▁real ▁problem ▁lies ▁elsewhere . ▁Hon der ich ▁maintain s ▁that ▁determin ism ▁is ▁true ▁because ▁quantum ▁phen omena ▁are ▁not ▁events ▁or ▁things ▁that ▁can ▁be ▁located ▁in ▁space ▁and ▁time , ▁but ▁are ▁abstract ▁entities . ▁Further , ▁even ▁if ▁they ▁were ▁micro - level ▁events , ▁they ▁do ▁not ▁seem ▁to ▁have ▁any ▁relev ance ▁to ▁how ▁the ▁world ▁is ▁at ▁the ▁macro scop ic ▁level . ▁He ▁maintain s ▁that ▁in compat ibil ism ▁is ▁false ▁because , ▁even ▁if ▁ind et erm in ism ▁is ▁true , ▁in compat ibil ists ▁have ▁not ▁provided , ▁and ▁cannot ▁provide , ▁an ▁ade qu ate ▁account ▁of ▁orig ination . ▁He ▁reject s ▁compat ibil ism ▁because ▁it , ▁like ▁in compat ibil ism , ▁assumes ▁a ▁single , ▁fundamental ▁notion ▁of ▁freedom . ▁There ▁are ▁really ▁two ▁not ions ▁of ▁freedom :